Ne-Raves Digest Volume 2, Issue 3 [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Subject: Re: Badges.... From: inhuman@mindvox.phantom.com (Inhuman) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 93 00:21:38 EST You can make your own badge out of one of the ne-raves stickers. I did this, and it looks pretty cool. I got the idea from that crazy MIT/WPI crew. Just laminate it. You can print something out and stick it to the back of the sticker before you laminate it if you want, like I did. It looks pretty slick. But I've got my real badge now too, so I wear both. Michael | "I've begun to wonder if we wouldn't (inhuman@mindvox.phantom.com) | also regard spelunkers as desperate | criminals if AT&T owned all the ...trance form...trance send... | caves." --John Perry Barlow [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 01 Mar 1993 00:45:23 -0500 (EST) From: Derek Tiffany Subject: Re: Badges.... >There will be no more, right? 'Cause one would have been very helpful for >me at GoE. well...if someone can get the design from laura (and tell me where to get the grating stuff) I can go into the badge-making buisness...lemme know and I'll look into how much places around here charge for lamination... later days and sunny rays, -----------------------+---------------------------+------------------------- Derek Tiffany | TIFFANYDE@URVAX.URICH.EDU | SRGP and SPHIGS oh my University of Richmond | djt0u@aurora.urich.edu |<= djt{zero}u@aurora... -----------------------+---------------------------+------------------------- or just plain dErEk if you prefer... [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Mon, 01 Mar 93 01:20:36 EST From: "Douglas B. Zimmerman" Subject: Re: Badges.... Just to comment on inhumans post, the ne-raves badges that laura made were neon-green, and hot-pink, which make them especially easy to see in the dark. i never realized how much easier it was to see them then one time susie k. and i were handing out flyers for dcraves. the ones on just plain blue or read were hard to read in the light, but the ones we printed out on neon-green and bright yellow were legible in the light of the rave. just a tidbit. doug ) ( [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: kcn@wpi.WPI.EDU Subject: Re:Badges... Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1993 01:36:54 -0500 (EST) Just curious.... What is happening with the badges that got caught in limbo when Laura left?? Mine was one of them..I had heard someone else had taken them over... Does anyone know if this is true?? Shall I contact Laura?? How?? Sorry to Bother... The Kat In The Hat ;) [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1993 02:11:54 -0500 From: ncp@csmvax.simmons.edu (Neith Preston) Subject: NYC Polida and I are making a trek to NYC this weekend...I believe Oz is going and Donato is contemplating it...who els will be ther for the 5th and 6th???? and, does anybody have a large enough place that if many of us go to the city, we can all meet up??? Mail me info and I'll get word to all those interested! Love and Frogs!!! Neith PS oh, and oz, i need your e-mail address! Neith [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: pdote@leland.stanford.edu (Patrick Sean Dote) Subject: Re:Badges... Date: Sun, 28 Feb 93 23:07:46 PST badges - we don/t need no stinking badges..... just thought it was on everyone/s mind. i/m sick, jim. very sick. pat [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Sun, 28 Feb 93 23:10 PST From: Tamara Palmer Subject: Rave Is... Greetings (to all of you whom I've bugged before and those of you who don't know me but are about to be bugged), In a continuing effort to compile stuff for my upcoming dancezine E Side Cecil, I thought a column of quotes on the subject, "Rave Is..." in the style of "Happiness is a Warm Puppy" would be cool. SO...what I ask is that you let your creative juices flow and fill in the blank, in one sentence or less. An extremely uncreative example would be: Rave is staying up all night. ---And since I have done that for the past two nights, the lame example I have just produced might make sense. I hope you get the point. Anyway, please indicate if you would like to be anonymously quoted if that's the case. Thanks! Keep It Alive, Tamara Palmer izzypk3@mvs.oac.ucla.edu p.s. please let me know if you might be interested in contributing to the zine. I am especially interested in reports on the new england scene and interviews with the big djs there (if anyone has access to them). Thanks! :) [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Mon, 1 Mar 93 05:33:22 -0800 From: reillye@Cyanamid.COM (Eilene Reilly) Subject: south east raves Could someone either post or mail me the address for whatever our equivalent in the south east is..... Thanks eileen (reillye@cyanamid.com) [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 1 Mar 93 08:56:34 EDT From: Golden Boy Subject: ------------ Forwarded Message Received: from medisg.Stanford.EDU by nextsun.INS.CWRU.Edu with SMTP (5.65b+ida+/CWRU-1.5.2-freenet-gw) id AA00493; Sat, 27 Feb 93 00:28:06 -0500 (from sfraves-request@medisg.Stanford.EDU for /usr/local/bin/m2mbox /u/26/deb9/mbox) Received: by medisg.Stanford.EDU (4.1/1.34) id AA24124; Fri, 26 Feb 93 20:51:44 PST Received: from socrates.ucsf.EDU by medisg.Stanford.EDU (4.1/1.34) id AA24120; Fri, 26 Feb 93 20:51:43 PST Received: by socrates.ucsf.EDU (5.65/GSC4.22) id AA29722; Fri, 26 Feb 93 20:51:39 -0800 Date: Fri, 26 Feb 93 20:51:39 -0800 Message-Id: <9302270451.AA29722@socrates.ucsf.EDU> From: okamura@cgl.ucsf.edu (Ross Okamura) To: sfraves@medisg.Stanford.EDU Subject: sound equipment/lights... Saw this on SFRAVES...figured some of you kidz might be interested so I forwarded it ... Golden Boy not sure what this list is (i live on bpm), but chris recommended I post my friendly note here... I have excess sound equipment lying around as well as various lights and after seeing several posts looking for where to rent, I offered my services to provide sound & light for shows...I'm a dj myself, but also pursuing a grad degree at UCSF so I don't have time to go bang doors for gigs so... if you need stuff, email if you're interested... ross okamura okamura@cgl.ucsf.edu -toPSPin! ------------ End of Forwarded Message -- <> [deb9@po.cwru.edu] :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: * I'LL TAKE YOUR MIND TO ANOTHER DIMENSION * * PAY CLOSE ATTENTION * [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: pashdown@slack.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown) Subject: That certain female singer... Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1993 09:49:17 -0700 (MST) > Here's a question that I've been wondering about... > > Does anyone know the song "Something For Your Mind" by Speedy J on Plus 8 > Records? If so, you know the female that says "Something for your mind, > Something..." Right? Is this the same girl that does the vocals on any of the > following tracks... Ultimate Seduction - "Ultimate Seduction" > Phantasia - "Inner Light" > Biz Art (sp?) - "Wrong Is Right" > > Well? Anyone know? They all (except for Phantasia, which is Jade 4 U babbling) sampled Intact's "Acts of Sensation" so yes, it is the same girl, but she only did it once. These samples also appear in DJ Massive's "Point of Intensity". [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Subject: from Neith Date: Mon, 01 Mar 93 12:15:55 EST From: SHALAKO (technokachina) My system is down til 1 pm today, so if anybody wrote regarding NYC yOu might want to write Back to me again to be sure it got thry. right now I know that Kris, applepie, oz, taylor, john, polida, and I will be in NYC this weekend...who else??? Love and Frogs!!!! Neith PS thankyou Shannon!!! [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 01 Mar 1993 12:30:16 -0400 (EDT) From: love is in the air Subject: ne-raves badges i was thinking of taking over laura's job of making the badges...for a few reasons.. i think people may still want them.. and...in the early stages laura and i did them together.. so i know how they are done.. and where to get the stuff.. and what not.. so, let me ask you this! : is there any interest for badges still? should i do them? and... i'm interested in making some design changes... is that ok? .. let us live and love >>taylor.808 [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: tma@KUWAIT.ELP.CWRU.EDU Date: Mon, 1 Mar 93 12:00:41 EST Subject: Compilation ID required...! Hey all! I am trying to find out the name of a compilation that has two songs which I really like: 1) Star Trek, 2) Electric Salsa. It might be out on ZYX records, ig anybody knows let me know about it (e-mail!) Peace, TAREQ [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1993 13:13:05 -0500 (EST) From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: ne-raves badges "Watcha gonna do when the bass hits you???" -Adrenaline 92 Toronto, Ontario. On xxx, 1 Mar 1993, love is in the air wrote: > > > so, let me ask you this! > > : > > is there any interest for badges still? > should i do them? Yes, yes. > and... > > i'm interested in making some design changes... Hmmmm > is that ok? I like the old design but if you think you can improve it then do it. Joe (187-Mobile Live Techno Vibes) [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: pashdown@slack.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown) Subject: Meat Beat Manifesto/808 State Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1993 11:54:09 -0700 (MST) Meat Beat Manifesto, 808 State, and a third band that has yet to be selected will be touring late April and early May. Am I wrong in being depressed at this lineup? Meat Beat is always great, but this is their second leg, and I could care less whether I see 808 State mime their instruments again. I'm stuck trying to figure out what I should offer the agents for this tour. Is there enough frothing mania over 808 State now to expect a large turnout? I lost money the first time Meat Beat Manifesto came around, but do you think I'd have that problem now that I have a couple months to spare instead of five days? _Everyone_ here who saw the Communion tour with MBM, Orbital, and Ultramarine thought it was the best thing that had hit Utah all year. I suppose shockwaves from that could generate a large turnout for this as well. I've just heard that 808 State demands ridiculous amounts to play, but I feel queezy about offering more for this tour than I offered The Orb. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 1 Mar 93 14:21:58 EDT From: Golden Boy Subject: Re: Meat Beat Manifesto/808 State > will be touring late April and early May. Am I wrong in being depressed at > this lineup? Meat Beat is always great, but this is their second leg, and I > could care less whether I see 808 State mime their instruments again. I'm > > _Everyone_ here who saw the Communion tour with MBM, Orbital, and Ultramarine > thought it was the best thing that had hit Utah all year. I suppose I know if it came down to the Orb and 808, I'd opt for the Orb...I'd say go with your gut on this one Pete. You don't seem too thrilled about this one...but it seems as though you don't want to miss it...how about splitting it with another promoter ?...hmmm...just a thought...peace. -- <> [deb9@po.cwru.edu] :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: * I'LL TAKE YOUR MIND TO ANOTHER DIMENSION * * PAY CLOSE ATTENTION * [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Mon, 1 Mar 93 14:45 EST From: laura@usl.com Subject: BADGES Anyone who has ordered a badge from me will get their badge. I am not the kind of slime that would take your money and run. I just haven't gotten around to making them yet . . . but they will come, soon, so please be patient. I've been (1) depressed (2) sick (3) busy (4) raving lately so I just haven't had a chance to get to them. If any future design changes are made to the badges they shouldn't be too drastic . . . they should still be the same colors so they will be easily recognizable by anyone who's on the list . . . it wouldn't do to have several different versions of the badges that didn't look at all alike, you know? That would detract from the purpose of being easily-recognizable identification. One thing that needs to be done, though, is to change the mailing address from silver to gnu on them. Although several people have offered, I think it would be best if Taylor took them over since he has the computer files for the original badges, and has guaranteed access to the types of supplies we used to make them. That way they will stay looking pretty much the same. Laura [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Mon, 1 Mar 93 14:59:19 -0500 From: epeirce@acs.bu.edu (Erin Peirce) Subject: Re: ne-raves badges i wrote laura a while ago inquiring about badges...i don't think the last [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1993 17:04:41 -0500 From: ncp@csmvax.simmons.edu (Neith Preston) Subject: nyc again oh yes....anyone have extra car space for stragglers??? I have only one extra seat, but other people may be wanting it...let me know and I'll try to fix things up...still looking for a meeting place...oz suggested going to shelter/ nasa on friday... Love and Frogs!!! Neith [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: Mike J. Brown Subject: Psychotropic Date: Mon, 1 Mar 93 21:08:28 EST Heh, heh, after posting the info off that flyer for the Hypnotic Justice rave in Toronto, the one with a live performance by O2 recording artists Psychotropic featuring their hit Hypnosis... I go into Camelot Music of all places and browse thru the budget CDs... when what do I find for $3.88 ? You guessed it, an import CD single for Hypnosis... with a radio edit, original mix, and a superdope SL2 remix. Since Camelot stores tend to have the same items in their budget bins from store to store, y'all might wanna go check out one near you... Mike Mike Brown _ _ __ ______________________________________Approach and Identify [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: sklar@picasso.ocis.temple.edu (Dave Sklar) Subject: Subtle Message Date: Mon, 1 Mar 93 22:08:40 EST So after I get home from Garden of Eden, I get 2 hours of sleep and then I have to go to New York for a Bar Mitzvah. I'm sitting in the service, looking for interesting bits in the prayerbook, and I come across, "Then we shall explore the richness of our being: We shall taste ecstasy and sorrow, know mystery and revelation." Afterward, I get to the big ol' luncheon, and the DJ is playing Gangsta' Bitch by Apache. I sidled on over to the semibooth and took a look at their setup. My Djing knowledge is fairly small, but from what I know, what they had was pretty good [2 1200's, 2 CD players, a nice mixer (i don't know the brand)]. And despite the rest of the music they played, skillwise, they were pretty good. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 01 Mar 1993 22:19:42 -0500 (EST) From: Derek Tiffany Subject: Re: Badges >If any future design changes are made to the badges they shouldn't be too >drastic . . . they should still be the same colors so they will be easily >recognizable by anyone who's on the list . . . it wouldn't do to have several >different versions of the badges that didn't look at all alike, you know? >That would detract from the purpose of being easily-recognizable identification I agree, but... Mebbe we could throw some more color in there...one of the reasons I had volunteered was access to an HP Colorjet... >Although several people have offered, I think it would be best if Taylor took >them over since he has the computer files for the original badges, and has >guaranteed access to the types of supplies we used to make them. That way >they will stay looking pretty much the same. Sounds great to me...Taylor, let us know when you're up and running... later days and sunny rays, -----------------------+---------------------------+------------------------- Derek Tiffany | TIFFANYDE@URVAX.URICH.EDU | Join the SERAVES list! University of Richmond | djt0u@aurora.urich.edu |<= djt{zero}u@aurora... -----------------------+---------------------------+------------------------- or just plain dErEk if you prefer... [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: the beloved Subject: glow gear Date: Mon, 01 Mar 93 22:48:40 -0500 Hello all, I need some advice about purchasing glow gear for Krusty's Splathouse rave this Saturday (Charlottesville, VA). Basically I need to know what people like to wear. I'm thinking of buying a couple hundred necklaces and maybe fifty glasses. Should I also consider the 6" sticks? How about bracelets, earrings, etc.? I have a limited budget (a few hundred dollars) and would like to at least cover my costs. So tell me, what would you buy? People have asked for pricing info on glow stuff, so below is a snippet from the catalog I received today. If you want the complete catalog, send me email and I'll get back to you in a few of days. Please put "glow catalog" or some such phrase in your subject so I can single out your requests. Thanks, and hope to see ya'll at Krusty's on March 6. Paul -- beloved@virginia.edu "Hey, I've been saved!" - Frank Zappa psc9q@holmes.acc.virginia.edu --------------- Unique Sales Company (1-800-GLOWING) ext. 131 (ask for Gerry) Pricing Colors Glow Product: case: single: retail: G B P R O Y ---------------------- -------------------------------------- ----------- Lite Rope Necklaces 50 @ 0.94 = $47.00 $1.27 $3.00 x x x x Lite Rope Necklaces 8 @ 1.50 = $12.00 n/a $3.00 2 of G B P R Lite Rope Necklaces 3C 50 @ 1.04 = $52.00 $1.40 $3.00 mix of R G B Lite Rope Bracelets 50 @ 0.78 = $39.00 $1.05 $2.50 x x x x Lite Rope Bracelets 3C ? ? ? mix of R G B Eyeglasses 12 @ 1.98 = $23.76 $2.28 $3.95 x x 6" light stick 25 @ 1.19 = $29.75 $1.37 $2.49 x x x x x x Shipping info: - COD unless other arrangements made - min. order is $100 (otherwise add $5) - shipping ranges from $9 - $16.50 depending on size of order - 50% off shipping for pre-paid orders Notes: - Colors are (G)reen, (B)lue, (P)ink, (R)ed, (O)range, (Y)ellow - the 3C necklaces and bracelets are split up into thirds consisting of colors listed - supposedly they sell the tri-color bracelets but no price was listed [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 01 Mar 1993 23:29:48 -0500 (EST) From: LAIBACH@JHUVMS.HCF.JHU.EDU Subject: subscribe sub ne-raves laibach@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu" sub ne-raves laibach@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1993 01:14:56 -0500 (EST) From: Michael F Hauben Subject: What will Orb-Less Ritz show be? Hi, Since I am under the impression (from here and alt.rave) that the Orb has cancelled all their USA appearances, I had a question. If the Orb won't be at the Ritz in NYC on Saturday - what will? Since the Ritz hasn't cancelled the show, does anybody know what one should expect that night? thanks, -Michael [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: the beloved Subject: Re: NC raves??? Date: Tue, 02 Mar 93 02:28:05 -0500 : Karl, you should come here to central Virginia. I have room on the floor of : my room if you need a place to sleep. Others do to I'm quite sure! I just wanted to add that I also have room for 4 or 5 others attending Krusty's Splathouse on March 6. I'm sorry to all who are receiving this message over three mailing lists, but I don't think I have a choice. Being in Virginia, it seems that I fall within the jurisdiction of ne/dc/se-raves. Shine on, Paul PS. Please don't start a flame war over which states each group should cover. Send me your suggestions via email and maybe we can work something out. -- beloved@virginia.edu "Hey, I've been saved!" - Frank Zappa psc9q@holmes.acc.virginia.edu [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 02 Mar 1993 03:08:20 -0400 (EDT) From: love is in the air Subject: ne-raves badges v.2.0 well. i've gotten a TON of response from people who still want badges or want me to do them. so.. i guess i'm doin' em! but.. a few people have hoped for working diffraction grating.. that i cannot deliver. the reasont he DIF grating doesn't work in the already existing badges is because it melts in the laminating press. my idea for a design change would be that of REMOVING the DIFF altogether...although it's a cool idea.. it just really doesn't work... i can keep the design basically the same... and, i can mail them off every 9 orders that i get. so.. let me gather my head for this.. figure out the best way to do it..and i'll let you all know within a day or so when i'm ready.. then you can start flooding me with orders. :) i'm glad there's still interst for this! bye all! (eox) >>taylor.808 [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: s i n e w a v e Subject: body release live shows: Date: Tue, 2 Mar 93 3:42:57 EST the next dates for body release are as follows: 10 march 1993 * lucky's in the brewery district of columbus with DJ Web 19 & up, show begins at 10pm 14 march 1993 * 700 high with bizarre inc., broadcast live on 105fm in columbus, oh. 18 & up, show begins at 10pm 26 march 1993 * (unnamed as of this moment) in cleveland, oh. look for color flyers about the towns... courtesy of me. call me at home. 10 april 1993 * (very tenative) super big dose in hartford, ct. with all of your friends from ne-raves, i suppose.. 11 april 1993 * sound off at club 1215 with nevermor, 10 speed guillotine, and theory collapse in columbus, oh 24 april 1993 * culture shock in bloomington, indiana for WIUS radio station benefit. in a large meadow with other types of performers, artists, and the like. should be interesting. call and leave a message at 614.299.9529 for info (we'll call you back, promise...) and, chris breitenbach, go see us play in town soon!!! or give me a call and you can come over... sines -- /\ /\ _________________s i n e w a v e___________________ /\ /\ / \ / \ / todd sines: tsines@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu \ / \ / \ / \/ \/ 384 e17th ave, columbus, oh 43201 614 299 9529 \/ \/ \ analogue / analogue-request@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 2 Mar 93 03:52:15 -0500 From: jna@silver.lcs.mit.edu (help me) Subject: Re: ne-raves badges v.2.0 How's about some intelligent engineering around the problem, instead of removing it... Grating could be added POST not PRE lamination.. The wonders of krazy glue and an X-Acto blade never cease to amaze me.. -john [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 02 Mar 1993 03:55:41 -0400 (EDT) From: love is in the air Subject: Re: ne-raves badges v.2.0 > Grating could be added POST not PRE lamination. mm. might be messy. the nice thing about having it before hand was that it got sandwiched between the badge sides...gluing it on the outside wouldn't be all that attractive.. .. ?? damn. it's late. :) >>taylor nee nahnahnahnah nah nah nah nah nnaahhhhhhh nahnahnahnah [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: pdote@leland.stanford.edu (Patrick Sean Dote) Subject: Vizine 3.0 Top 10 lists requested Date: Tue, 2 Mar 93 1:10:23 PST anyone who thinks they could pull off a top ten list of songs (or anything really, just tell me what 10 it is), should do so and email it to me for the next vizine which will include another garth list and other more secretive musings, an interview with mark gee of collision, mark metz of ameba, and richard sun of ambient temple at least, and a review of attitude factory and probably sound design part II by todd terry. anything else will be greatly appreciated the mailing problems of 2.0 still plague me, but i/m moseying as fast as possible and finally, there is no finally pat thanks [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 2 Mar 93 09:11:06 EDT From: Golden Boy Subject: Polida Sorry to waste the bandwidth kidz...BUT...HEY Polida...you sent me an e-mail message...yet I get an error when I attempt to reply... are you unable to recieve mail.... [...back to your normaly scheduled program....] -- <> [deb9@po.cwru.edu] :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: * I'LL TAKE YOUR MIND TO ANOTHER DIMENSION * * PAY CLOSE ATTENTION * [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 02 Mar 1993 11:22:09 -0500 (EST) From: Derek Tiffany Subject: Pre-Krusty's... Saturday, March 6th...Krusty's Splathouse...Charlottesville, Va... As many of you know (and are probably sick of hearing about) I'll be holding a pre-Krusty's chill in my apartment (UFA Apt 606 on the University of Richmond campus). More detailed directions will be coming to those interested...I've gotten a decent response so far, but there's still plenty o' room (it's more of a townhouse type of deal). Also, I'd love to see some more of the UVa. crew make the trip...I know Christopher and Laura have sent mebbes, anyone else? Mebbe someone could share some rides...? Oh yah, and post-crash spcae is also available (3 open beds + a sofa + a futon...crash in style!) And don't forget to bring any computer animation video cassetes/laser discs! Or groovin tunes...or anything else! I have a full kitchen so I'm thinking of doing the dinner thing as well if anyone wants...I was thinking of a stir-fry in the Wok, although a barbeque might also be good...once again, all ya gotta do is lemme know in advance (and bring some chow). Also, >For any SE/NE/DCravers coming to Krusty's - post me that you are >coming and I will hold tickets at pre-event $7.00. Also, any and >all NE/DC/SEravers are cordially invited to our small afterparty >(two apartments) hosted by Clark Kent - hopefully with all the >SmartBar leftovers free of charge. That's from Duncan, so let either he... dch4s@faraday.clas.virginia.edu or I know so tickets can be held. Derek Tiffany 804-281-1903 Basic Directions: Get to Richmond using either I95 or I64...follow signs to University of Richmond...wander around untill you find the University Forest Apartment... it's #606. More detailed directions will be sent to those interested... Oh yah, and sorry about sending this note to all three lists, but there are people on all 3 who are interested, so... later days and sunny rays, -----------------------+---------------------------+------------------------- Derek Tiffany | TIFFANYDE@URVAX.URICH.EDU | SRGP and SPHIGS oh my University of Richmond | djt0u@aurora.urich.edu |<= djt{zero}u@aurora... -----------------------+---------------------------+------------------------- or just plain dErEk if you prefer... P.S. Did John Humphry go on break? If so...does anyone know his #/etc... [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: tma@KUWAIT.ELP.CWRU.EDU Date: Tue, 2 Mar 93 10:04:11 EST Subject: Nation Of Sound, 3-5-93, Cleveland,OH Here is a flyer I picked last I was @ SmartBar. FrontSide: ---------- The Documentary Tour Event NATION OF SOUND Showing the documentry films OF on raves around the U.S.A. SOUND Exclusive Interviews in.... A SanFrancisco Boston Multi Room NewYork SanDiego Event Atlanta Seattle Cincinati Phoenix Chicago Wash., D.C. MC'd by Michael Stein St. Louis Miami the writer & Director of LosAngeles Dallas Nation of Sound Documentaries Vancouver Philadelphia BackSide -------- Friday March 5th, 1993 Smart Bar-1575 Merwin Ave / Flats MikeG & SmartBar 216-522-1575 Present $5 with invite B4 11:30pm Nation of Sound $7 after - 19 & over THE DOCUMENTARY TOUR EVENT Doors open 9:00pm The documentaries of techno around the USA are covering Cleveland - our promoters - dj's - people and clubs are being filmed for hostory on Friday March 5, 1993. We want every one to turn up - turn out! and ready to dance... SanFrancisco: dj Noel the first SF dj to hit town ever trance-tribal-breakbeat FADE TO BLACK - dj Vice FTBlack from black nations records will perform live! with intruments, keyboards and emcee and visuals. Not your average show!!! dj Vice adds his detroit turntable sounds afterwards The REEL ROOM smart bar opens up the REEL ROOM A special room where you can see what the rest of the USA is doing on big screen. Actual documentary footage from other cities.... A&A Graphics 714-521-8784 EXLCUSIVE INTERVIEWS WITH -------------------------- SanFrancisco NewYork LosAngeles ------------ ------- ---------- noel joey beltram doc martin lapaix dj onionz barry weaver dj ghost julie jules mr. koolaid joel of creation keoki dj dan mark & dave rick of jive of wacky citrus Dallas daven the madhatter & sound factory ------ raymond of urb jeff k. Boston Seattle Chicago ------ ------- ------- john debo donald glaud james johnson marc buxton Miami Portland Cleveland ----- -------- --------- ralph falcon josh wink mike g. SanDiego Atlanta Vancouver -------- ------- --------- todd of playskool dwain robert shea Philly St.Louis NewOrleans ------ -------- ---------- josh wink terry mullan micael & matt of spice records Milwakee Cincinati -------- --------- kurt & patrick tommy tomato [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 2 Mar 93 12:20:25 -0500 From: brendan mcdougall Subject: MacOrb Hi, Since I don't know if this info made it to this list, I thought I would pass this info along. I apologize in advance if its redundant. Someone has made a screen-saver for MACs which uses the latest cover from ORB's latest CD cover art. It should be on the soda FTP site--see following message. For those of you without the skill or software, I've also attached the mailing address of someone willing to do sneaker-net for you. You should e-mail a request to him, rather than have him get hit with a deluge of disks. Enjoy, Brendan --------------------------------------- Begin forwarded message: From: bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu (Brian Behlendorf (Vitamin B)) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1993 18:03:52 -0800 X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.3 5/22/91) To: howard@netcom.com (Howard Berkey), arthurc@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Arthur Chandler) Subject: Re: MacOrb Cc: sfraves@soda.berkeley.edu I'm gonna meet arthur Thursday night and get a copy from him, and it should be online on soda.berkeley.edu by Friday morning. Brian ------------------------------------------------- From: arthurc@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Arthur Chandler) Subject: Re: MacOrb To: mcdougal@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu (brendan mcdougall) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 93 17:51:44 PST Cc: arthurc@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Arthur Chandler) In-Reply-To: <9303020044.AA00532@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu>; from "brendan mcdougall" at Mar 1, 93 7:44 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] > > Hi, > > I'm sure you've been deluged, but please send me your address. I'd > like to get a copy of the ORB screensaver. > > Thanks > > Brendan > NE-Raves > Send a high density Mac disk and a stamped disk mailer to: Arthur Chandler 123 Walnut Avenue Mill Valley, CA 94941 If there's extra room, I'll also throw on a couple more modules. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1993 13:59:03 -0500 From: Joe Turner Subject: That "documentary" >From: Desi the Three-Armed Wonder Comic >Subject: what the HELL is this.... >Date: Tue, 2 Mar 93 10:51:56 PST > >it's a series of documentaries on the rave scene. they had a showing >over here at some horrible overpriced commercial mega-rave. my >housemates went but the movie never got shown. needless to say, they >were QUITE pissed. > >you want documentary? i can send you a copy of the video of my first >DJ'ing gig! > >>EXLCUSIVE INTERVIEWS WITH >>SanFrancisco >>------------ >>noel >>lapaix >>dj ghost >>joel of creation >>mark & dave >> of wacky citrus >>& sound factory > >i know these people and they are the sad face of the Commercial >Aboveground Icky Poo rave scene. ghost, in particular, bugs me. he >plays that wack breakbeat hardcore 180000 BPM shit. the only DJ in >the bay area who does, in fact, and they had to interview HIM? wacky >citrus is the mcdonald's of raving. sound factory is a big yuppie >trendy club that recently opened to bring the 1980's club scene back >to life, apparently. > >where are jeno, garth, josh, spun, kenny & harry, martin, the >hardkisses.... or even US? > >shit man, i'm bummed. maybe i'll go rent a video camera and rectify >this injustice. > >or not. > >/j/ Go at your own risk, I guess... /joe -|-|-|-|-|-|/\-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|- Joe Turner < > cutter@ra.cs.umb.edu \/ Don't throw that woman away! [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: tma@KUWAIT.ELP.CWRU.EDU Date: Tue, 2 Mar 93 14:10:35 EST Subject: !!!! Disclaimer !!!! I posted that flyer just for the sake of sharing, that more! I am was not aware of the fact that Nation of Sound had already been shown at other places. Also, I was not aware that it is being conducted (by/about) a bunch of cheesy money sucking people! So, I by no means, am trying to help the money sucking crowd(s), God knows how much I detest thier concepts!! I know I better. I shall investigate before spreading any more info. which would indanger the scene, it is a promise! Peace, TAREQ [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1993 15:05:44 -0500 From: Joe Turner Subject: Re: !!!! Disclaimer !!!! Woah, woah... didn't mean to imply that you were condoning anything.... I'd want to go see this thing just to laugh at it, now that I know more about it... /joe [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1993 16:16:26 -0500 (EST) From: "Amy C. Jenner" Subject: nation of sound I'd agree with joe about the sf djs - who they should feature and the people i never heard of who they apparently do feature. the people from la though are pretty cooley. raymond, the god of urb magazine is , well, a god, i used to work for him (showin off again). and rick of fresh jive/raw vibes is for you if you have a modicum of respect for finger-lickin-good graphic design: a god as well. barry weaver and doc are the most respected dj's in la. daven is daven. i'd go see it if it comes around to massachusetts (does anyone know if it will?) and... does anyone happen to know anything going down in london at the moment (or mar.13-19) ? wow, my 1st message. man, cyberspace is the shit. cooley. we're just babies, man bene ajenner@mhc.mtholyoke.edu [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 2 Mar 93 16:43:28 -0500 From: epeirce@acs.bu.edu (Erin Peirce) Subject: Re: ne-raves badges v.2.0 taylor, please add me to the list of ne-raves badge desirees. thanks, -erin epeirce@acs.bu.edu [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 2 Mar 93 16:50:17 -0500 From: Craig M. Kanarick Subject: Song title request A friend of mine is working a project for Mother's Day and asked me to help out. We are trying to gather the names of any and all songs dealing with mothers, motherhood, or relationships with mothers. So, if you have any information at all about songs like this, regardless of genre, could you mail me the information? I would like: Name of song: Artist: Title of album: Very brief summary: Once again, that's anything relating to Mommy. Thanks a bundle. Peace, -- cmk [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 2 Mar 93 16:50:00 EST From: "John Speakman" Subject: Orb NYC show Hi, at the risk of opening this can of worms again.... The NYC Ritz (even though their recorded concert hotline thang still says the Orb show is on) have finally conceded that the Orb are indeed not coming this Saturday. There will still be a "big rave, man, with DJs and all that stuff" on, but I don't think it'll be the best vibe in the world as people blissfully unaware that the Orb have cancelled realize that they ain't coming. I guess the Ritz are hoping people will be too E'd up to notice that the Orb aren't there. The Ritz bloke did admit that refunds would be available at point of purchase. Ticketmaster are still selling tickets and won't admit (or don't know) that the Orb have cancelled so getting refunds might be fun... John. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 02 Mar 1993 17:00:29 -0400 (EDT) From: love is in the air Subject: ne-raves badges. ok. lots of responses.. and some ideas. here goes: i don't like the idea of the difraction grating because it doesn't work... i've gotten a couple of alternate ideas: 1) ad it after lamination (this would be a PAIN.. cutting out each one.. and applying messy glue to the outside. less than slick) 2) put a piece of blue (or some color) gel in... so when you look thru it everything is blue! (easy) 3) don't have anything in there. just a full paper thing. no hole. (how many times do/will you use it anyway?) also.. i don't like the colors pink and green together. but, laura had a good point in keeping the colors the same so they're recognizable..what i'm going to do is have a GREEN front. and a WHITE back. this will be better looking.. and people will still recognize the same green front (with the same design on it). if there are any good suggestions for diff/gel or whatever.. let me know.. if not i'll probably just go with not using anything at all...tho.. mmm?? i DO like the idea of a blue gel... yeah.. once i've finalized all these thoughts and ideas i will post a message saying that i'm all ready...and then you can send orders in. the badges will be the usual $3. have a beautiful day. :) >>taylor.808.trance.device a n o t h e r s p a c e d o u t p h r a s e [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu (Brian Behlendorf (Vitamin B)) Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1993 14:46:36 -0800 Subject: Just a reminder about tonight... If you have net access between 11pm and 5am PST tonight, Tuesday night/ Wednesday morning, Vrave will be online at Come/Unity in San Francisco. I am trying to get a projector setup for the event... so I'd like to see as many people there as possible... See ya then! Brian [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: fuzzbox@world.std.com (U.F.Orb) Subject: re: ne-raves badges Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1993 17:55:38 -0500 (EST) > if there are any good suggestions for diff/gel or whatever.. let me know.. if > not i'll probably just go with not using anything at all...tho.. mmm?? i DO > like the idea of a blue gel... How about finding some way to seal some oil and water in there? 8-) -- Jason Bilsky- fuzzbox@world.std.com **AnnoyingBandNameSigAlert!** CrimsOrBandOfSusanSigueSigueSputniKLFionAsiArtOfNoisE.G.DailYello DaisyChainsaWettoNineInchNailSystemSeveNedsAtomicDustbiNewOrder MoodswingSt.EtiennEnigmAdamskInSoConcreteBlondEnOrbital ToriAmoSmithereenShameNirvana ...Oh, and Fuzzbox..... [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 2 Mar 93 14:56:55 PST From: sap@lucid.com (Synthia Petroka) Subject: Song title request Name of song: Mother's Little Helper Artist: Stones Title of album: ? Very brief summary: It's so tuff being a housewife you have to take drugs [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1993 18:33:59 -0500 From: ncp@csmvax.simmons.edu (Neith Preston) Subject: nyc hookup Ok rumors are out there as to what is available friday in the nyc area, new clubs, old clubs, raves, bogus concerts,etc By tonight I ought to know for sure what is happening...for now i can give a list of possible nyc visitors for the weekend...anyone else? contact me Jake jxrst1+@pitt.edu Oz ol@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu Kris kcn@wpi.wpi.edu Derek dpc96@uno.ss.geneseo.edu Polida pphengso@sph.harvard.edu Christian/APPLEPIE st933352@pip.cc.brandeis.edu Brendon mcdougal@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu Laura ? laura@usl.com John ? jna@silver.lcs.edu Donato ? donato@applix.com John crowley@wpi.wpi.edu Taylor tod3253@acfcluster.nyu.edu Eileen ??? Ciamac ??? me!!! ncp@csmvax.simmons.edu and many non ne-ravers.. I probably left someone out or mispelled, so please correct me! Love and Frogs!!! Neith PS I'll add more info later! [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1993 18:55:18 -0500 (EST) From: Alan Michael Parry Subject: **--{HOM}--** I though that I'd get a reminder out to you all early so that I can put this out at a reasonable time - like Thursday night. Send me you plans/rides etc etc and all the other usuall stuff =) thanks.. --Fluid (brit@ravel.udel.edu) [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1993 19:05:21 -0500 From: ncp@csmvax.simmons.edu (Neith Preston) Subject: re: nyc hookup ok, here's eileen's and ciamac's addresses...again i repeat, these are only possible unconfirmed people, can each person said me confirmation and if you want to know for sure if someone is going write to them.... eileen reillye@cyan.mid.com ciamac ciamac@media-lab.mit.edu Love and Frogs!!! Neith [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: Rob Cook Date: Tue, 2 Mar 93 20:03:18 EST Subject: Re: vraves hey i want to try and get on vraves tonight. i have access to telnet but when i type in telnet sfraves.stanford.edu 7282 the space between edu and 7282 really screws with my system. am i doing something wrong. also, if i just drop the 7282 the system asks for a login and a password and i can't get in. please, please, please let me get on vraves thanks rob c. rlc2h@virginia.edu rob c. rlc2h@virginia.edu [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 2 Mar 93 17:16:26 -0800 From: reillye@Cyanamid.COM (Eilene Reilly) Subject: NYC hookup Per Neith's request, I am posting this rave that's in NJ this weekend... It should also be on rave-o-matic... ThE WorLD InFAmoUs DIGITAL DEVIANTS pResEnts... WHY FRIDAY 5 MARCH 1993 2 ROOMS OF MAD SOUNDS FROM DEEP HOUSE TO HARD CORE 6 HOURS OF NON-STOP AURAL INTENSITY $6 Before Midnight/$8 After Midnight (w/pass) $10 All Time w/Out Pass 908 287 8795 for more info 908 249 0064 for directions etc that night (after 6 pm) WE RESERVE THE RIGHT TO BE SELECTIVE (tack heads, wannabes, etc - stay home!) THIS IS THE REAL UNDERGROUND DEAL!!! eileen (reillye@cyanamid.com) [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 02 Mar 1993 21:58:45 -0500 (EST) From: Derek Tiffany Subject: JFK The Trance Mixes OK, I saw a ZYX CD today that I don't remember hearing about... JFK The Trance Mixes (or something like that...) by Misteria This is a guess of a memory...anyway, I thought it might have some potential...any thoughts? later days and sunny rays, -----------------------+---------------------------+------------------------- Derek Tiffany | TIFFANYDE@URVAX.URICH.EDU | Join the SERAVES list! University of Richmond | djt0u@aurora.urich.edu |<= djt{zero}u@aurora... -----------------------+---------------------------+------------------------- or just plain dErEk if you prefer... [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: s i n e w a v e Subject: SWITCH last weekend Date: Tue, 2 Mar 93 21:59:04 EST here is my review of SWITCH: well, i didn't really think that i would be going to this event because i ran out of a ride. luckily, at 5:30pm mike brown gave me a ring from cincinnati that he would be willing to come up and get me so i could go hang with my friends and shit. so, everyone send mail to mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu and tell mike that he is a wonderful guy. (he is probably blushing right now.) mike, helen, (my brand new very significant other) and myself were well on our way to cincinnati by 8:20pm. we arrived somewhat near 10pm at the ABCD deli in clifton (UC campus) and we stopped to get tickets as well as talk to dave hicks, helper-outer for jen and her grand efforts. we went over to jen's house and at the door, was our good friend brian gillespie from detroit. then we i saw johnathon santos, and my roommate titonton, along with jillian from columbus, and a few other recognizable cats were coolin' at jen's house as she was getting things ready at the location. we drove downtown cincinnati and drove by a lot of really ritzy hotels and shops deep in the city. then we pulled in the parking garage of the hotel near the site. as we were getting out of our cars, we met up with some more friends, sam serrano and al x, plus their friends wendy and donna, who were from lorain, which is 5 minutes from my hometown. we were happy. al x was carrying a shitload of t-shirts that damian did the design for (a play-doh logo saying, sooper wack product on it). we went up to the door and all was cool. the site was some old store or something, it had a smaller balcony feature, plus there was carpeting and pillars and all. there were various t-shirts and smart drink vendors, and up atop was the dj's and light controllers. they had a few intellibeams and some other shit, a really weird one that made an odyssey of stimulating colors. the music was fairly loud and very good, i don;t know who was spinning when i got there (manipulator, maybe?) but i didn't complain about any dj. hyperactive, from chicago, was spinning up a 909 and 303 storm, fucking hard head thumping techno to drive you nuts.. i was very impressed. during all of this i was talking to a lot of my friends, brian, johnathon, and even kurt eckes from drop bass network was there.. he was near the speakers, as usual. last time i was somewhere with him, he was practically fucking the cabinets.. i was eating oranges and bananas, giving a few out to whoever.. hanging out with helen, damian, jen, and erika. the vibe was like no other. comparable to that of laura's party in december (i miss you all!) except the music was louder and there was a lot more people. then..... my brother, damian higgins, aka dieselboy, decided that he didn't want me to walk the next day, or even have any strength for the rest of the night.. the MF fucking took off on my head (as well as titonton's) and proceeded to break out the best new weird breakbeat tracks (my brain was fried.)this included the new enforcers ep (the "R".. a fucking heartstopper. i have never danced more insane in my life) as well as the doc scott remixes of let's go, etc.. damian was bound to sent us to the hospital because of our knees shattering... I T W A S B A N G I N '................................ anyway, the rest of shit was dope too.. mind candy served up some more breabeat bliss, someone actually played an orbital remix of oolaa (happy!) and i also heard a lot of happy house and acid tracks. i had no complaints what so ever. i was so happy to see all of my friends, as well as get to see damian once again, and just hang out with a lot of really good people. i wish you could have been there, because i was smiling non-stop (and i was on just natural shit (sugar, fruits, etc..)) and you would seen titonton and i roll all over each other on the floor and act like we are donkeys or something... the one person acts like the front two legs, and the other acts like the back two legs.. it was funny as hell. so, if you get a chance to be in cincinnati, please go to jen rawers' PGP events, because she is as old as most of us, she is going to school, and she i always happy and smiling, and she isn;t out to get us and we don't leave bitching about shit that went wrong. from a very happy and glowing boy, sines -- /\ /\ _________________s i n e w a v e___________________ /\ /\ / \ / \ / todd sines: tsines@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu \ / \ / \ / \/ \/ 384 e17th ave, columbus, oh 43201 614 299 9529 \/ \/ \ analogue / analogue-request@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: sklar@picasso.ocis.temple.edu (Dave Sklar) Subject: Re: Nation Of Sound, 3-5-93, Cleveland,OH Date: Tue, 2 Mar 93 22:02:23 EST I picked up one of those at blue [the we're coming to NY version] and am still wondering why josh wink is under Portland. Anybody know? [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1993 22:16:49 -0500 From: ncp@csmvax.simmons.edu (Neith Preston) Subject: nyc hookup well, i think i'll be at the rave sat... oops, on friday i meant!!!! here are a few other possible trekkers to nyc rich ungsur@rpi.edu Will-E perez@andromeda.rutgers.edu i hope to see you all, remember if anyone can host a short get together it woulfd be great Love and Frogs!!! [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 02 Mar 1993 22:17:34 -0400 (EDT) From: love is in the air Subject: IF YOU WANT AN NE-RAVES BADGE, READ THIS! i've been getting lots of people telling me to add them to the list of folks who want badges.. and i need to remind you that i'm not remembering those names YET.. becuase i'm not ready to take orders.. in a day or two i will post all the official instructions and ordering info. *phew* bigger job than i though! whee!! :) peace to all. keep your eyes tuned to this (dead) television.. >>taylor.808 s w f t [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1993 22:25:02 -0500 From: ncp@csmvax.simmons.edu (Neith Preston) Subject: ughhh please don't mail me mail labelled nyc hookup unless it is directly relating to nyc this weekend... sorry bad mood time L&F!!! Neith [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1993 22:49:53 -0500 From: ncp@csmvax.simmons.edu (Neith Preston) Subject: nyc/HOM Please send word to myself and to fluid re: a confirmation of who is going to NYC and who is going to WHY in Nj on fri...ok? thanks Neith [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 02 Mar 1993 22:54:03 -0400 (EDT) From: eight oh eight kick wave Subject: NYC weekend. i would LOVE to host a short get together.. BUT as john and laura and ed and todd and damian and golden boy and becca and a bunch of others can attest to.. my aparment barely fits my gear. :P so...cna't do it.. but.. i am rather excited to see everyone! >.taylor.808 [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: dionf@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Francois Dion) Subject: Re: JFK The Trance Mixes Date: Wed, 3 Mar 93 0:28:49 EST Beyond the ultraworld of Derek Tiffany: > > > OK, I saw a ZYX CD today that I don't remember hearing about... > > JFK The Trance Mixes (or something like that...) > by Misteria Who killed JFK by Misteria. Dont know what these mixes look like, but the song is not out of this world or anything, and goes back to 1991. It can be found on the ZYX comp Techno Trax 4 (which answer also the request of another person about Orion's Star Trek and Electrica Salsa 92). If you can listen before you buy, i would suggest it. Ciao, -- Francois Dion ' _ _ _ CISM (_) (_) _) FM Montreal , Canada Email: CISM@ERE.UMontreal.CA (_) / . _) 10000 Watts Telephone no: (514) 343-7511 _______________________________________________________________________________ Audio-C-DJ-Fractals-Future-Label-Multimedia-Music-Radio-Rave-Video-VR-Volvo-... [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1993 01:36:25 -0500 (EST) From: Alan Michael Parry Subject: V-Rave... Whoops..I think we killed it. :) 19 people :) :) --a guilty Fluid [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 03 Mar 93 01:34:48 EST From: "Douglas B. Zimmerman" Subject: Rave-o-matic This is the Rave-o-matic for the week of Tue. March 2nd, 1993. Sorry bout being late. X-tra special thanks to Jesse, Tina, Ed, Dave, and anyone else for info. enjoy doug ))))) a b00mingg baSS for a l0vingg race ((((( dz5401a@american.edu ========================================================================== NE-RAVES CALENDAR -------------------------------------------------------------------------- UPCOMING RAVES: -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, March 6 KRUSTY'S SPLATHOUSE Charlottesville, VA (804) 977 - 3291 Cyber Productions Presents KRUSTY'S SPLATHOUSE RAVE Saturday march 6 10pm - 4am WITH DJ's: Todd Krulak (catastrophic/DC) Dave Javate (MusicNow/DC) Decay (Cyber/FRG) + others to Be Announced Multiple Chill out rooms Chill out DJs GATE & OAF Liquid Oil Light Show Computer Animation Chill Out rooms equiped with dodge ball, fun gooks to play, possibly VRAVE hookup Intellignet Real TimeLight Processing featuring Intellabeams-Dataflashes MegaPorcupines Shooting Stars & Mega Wall Video Projection Graphics HyperWalt Deep Bass PA INFO LINE: 804.977.3291 [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] from D.C. - take 66 west to Gainsville, VA. Then get on 29 south all the way to Charlottesville, VA. Stay on 29 south through the shopping mall, resturant, and hotel strip. Take a left onto Ivy Rd. Stay on Ivy for a mile. Take a left onto 10th street. KRUSTY'S SPLATHOUSE is on the right. If you get lost just stop somewhere and ask someone over 35 years old where the old Monticello Diary is! DeCay and I have put much effort into this party, especially since we believe this venue to be the finest rave setup ever! I went on a elementary school trip to the dairy when I was 8, and thought of it immediately when we embarked upon this project. Its maze-like quality is superlative! We understand any hesitancy on the part of those who have to contemplate a car ride down here, but after some of the big city flops, i.e. Tonka Productions Liquid Holiday (in D.C.) and to some extent, most of the D.C. and Baltimore raves in recent memory, we offer a new aesthetic, unbound by the police and fire marshall strictures found elsewhere. I can be reached at my e-mail address or at: CYBER Productions 7 Valley Circle Charlttesville, VA 22903 All Krust, No Fuss! Duncan (DJ OAF) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, March 6 ANDROMEDA Washington D.C. (202) 298 - 9000 TONKA presents ANDROMEDA a galaxy coming to you Saturday March 6, 1993 (10pm - 10am) from 2.2 million light years away ANDROMEDA in multi galaxy locations djs: Ignition : OPM (Ultraworld), Deadly Buda (Pittsburg) Systems Upgrade: Jean Phillipe (LA underground), James Christian (LimeLight) WINK (Philly) Down Load : Dante (Evolution), Neuromancer (Frankfurt, Germany), Bobble (Atomic Vibe) LIVE and exclusive performance GLITCH of Industrial Strength, R&S Radical rec. $15 INFO: D.C./MusicNow 202.638.3272 Balt/Modern Music 410.523.1882 Philly/Apple Jack & Under 215.602.2226 Pittsburg/Turbozen 412.621.7758 New Jersey/Planet X 908.249.2061 TONKA INFO LINE 202.298.9000 all permits secured --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, March 6 New York City (212) 541 - 8900 THE ULTIMATE IN CHILL The Ultimate in Chill (was going to be ORB concert) specail guest dj Lewis The environment is set to intoxicate your mind and body...roll into Orbvilionin the High Times Magazine Sky Lounge or relax with the Blunt Academy in the basemnt, and introducing the world's first SmartMart Cafe. Your Vinyl Technicians : Frankie bones - on the acid tip Onionz - caffeine Mr. Kleen - Sputnik On-E - nasa Josh Wink - Vagabounds Mark Kamins - prazidnin-moscow Tony fletcher - communion introducing the worlds first SMARTMART CAFE "the original real smart drinks" -in the basement, finking your mind up! GIANT STEP with dj Jazzy Nice and Smash with special guests - live! yall -check out the official HIGH TIMES Magazine Sky Lounge free hemp in the spaceship -Raggae Rotts Dub Room on the second level hosted by: The Blunt Academy programed ambient environment with EFX and fun provided by Hippy the Clown, Transfixing Brain Machines, Outlawed acisic visuals plus suprises! 254 West 54th St. $15.00 All tickets G.A. Ritz Box Office 212.541.8900 TICKETMASTER: 212.307.7171 - 201.507.8900 - 914.454.3388 - 516.888.9000 This is a Peace and Unity Event ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, March 6 Philadelphia, PA (215) 236 - 3713 TINMEN'S REVENGE (215) 335 - 9425 (215) 552 - 8833 For a year the city has been quiet... But a new techno terror has gripped the city... TINMEN'S REVENGE This ain't Kansa SATURDAY MARCH 6 1993 REAL invites you to activate all systems audio and sensory for the ride of your programed life. You want it. . . and now is the time. SATURDAY MARCH 6 93 10 PM UNTIL DAYBREAK AT OZ Front & Spring Garden [Spring Garden Plaza] Pjiladelphia, PA Control: Oddessy (Vagabond) Kats (RaveOn) Remic (Zodiac) Megatron (Telekinetic) Xandu (Vagabond) Sound: 30,000 Watts Of R.E.A.L. Techno/Rave & Stompin' Hard House FunFactor: 100% Legal All Ages All Night Graphics: Psychotropic Kaliedescope By Dr. Polizzi Intelligent Lighting / Data Flash Strobes / RoboScans / Straight Beams Popi Smart Bar / Free Parking near transportation $8 With flyer before midnite. $10 After R.E.A.L. Info: 2152363713 / 2153359245 / 2155528833 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, March 6 TORONTO (416) 631 - 4927 KRYPTONITE =========================== G * E * N * E * T * I * X PRODUCTIONS =========================== presents ------------------------------------- <<< <<<< K R Y P T O N I T E >>>> >>> ------------------------------------- Saturday March 6th, 1993ds Meeting Point (10pm est) Union Station Toronto EARTH 24 Hour GenetixLine (416) 631-4927 Rave till SUNRISE / Enjoy the FREE SHUTTLE BUS ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ULTIMATE ALL-NIGHT DANCE EVENT...KRYPTONITE '93 MIXOLOGIST'S INCLUDE: DR. NO * ALX OF LONDON * JAMES ST. BASS Frenzy, Ruffneck, DJ Manzone, The Raven, DJ Joe E, The Sandman, DJ Cosmic Coz, The Navigator Voice: The Preacher TWO SPECIAL LIVE PA PERFORMANCES ATTRACTIONS: Wicked Laser System Authentic 100K Watt Bodyrock Sound System Spectacular Effects the Exclusive Genetix energy Bar 50,000 ft Dance Area Bouncing Inflatable Fun Pyrotechnics Display Intelligent Lighting the Notorious genetix Dancers Mind-Altering Visuals Chill Out & Progressive House Rooms ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- DETAILS FOR THE NIGHT: The mysterious location is indoors and shall be unveiled twenty-four hours prior to the event, exclusively on the GENETIXLINE at (416)631-4927. For those wishing not to drive, a free shuttle bus will be provided all night from 10pm at Union Station, toronto. TICKET INFO: Advanced tickets are $15 and are available at all Genetix Tickets Outlets: We strongly advise purchasing your tickets in advance. For out-of-town ticket inquires leave a detailed message on the GENETIXLINE. There will be a limited amount of tickets available at the door ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Saturday, March 13 HYPNOTIC JUSTICE TORONTO (416) 760 - 3232 Pleasure Force presents HYPNOTIC JUSTICE Saturday March 13th 1993 meeting point at Union Station for info call the Pleasureline 416.760.3232 Join in Toronto's largest euphoric gathering...ever! LIVE UK PERFORMANCES INCLUDE: 02 recording artists PSYCHOTROPIC Top UK techno DJ COLIN DALE performing the legendary Hypnosis from London, England's KISS FM Including Toronto's hardcore best: Ruffneck, John E, Peter the Greek and special guest Dogwhistle and London, England's FACE [the DJ] Pleasure Force invites you and your mates to the biggest party Toronto has ever scene to date. Join us, along with thousands of others. From Detroit to Montreal, Barrie to Buffalo be with Pleasure Force on its first journey into out first celebration of 1993. Attractions: 100K of thundering bass / exclusive multi-color laser show / mind altering visuals and holograms / 360-degree sound film screens/ prgressive house - trance chill out room / Pleasure Force exclusive merchandise and accesories / our Pleasure Force dancers / nutritously fruty smart bar Ticket Info: Tickets are $18 advance and $15 at the door. available at: X-Static, Play de Record, Starssound, HMV (Missauga), word Up (Brampton) Due to the limited capacity of an event of this magnitute, we strongly recommend that you purchase your tickets in advance. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, March 13 ENCHANTED REALITY Baltimore, MD (410) 880 - 7144 H o l o g ra p h i c P r o d u c ti o n s presents: Enchanted Reality Mind Controling Groove Ministers: Micro (L.I.) Scott Henry (D.C.) Onionz (L.I.) DJ Who (Balto) Sameer (L.I.) Tony Pegas (Balto.) Ryde (N.J.) MasterNate (D.C.) INFORMATION: 410.880.7144 NO GLASS Smart Bar by NeuroEnergy bus trips, tickets & info: Baltimore - Modern Music 410.523.1882 D.C. - MusicNow 202.638.3272 Philly - Apple Jack 215.552.8833 New Jersey - Scott Schneider 201.927.2292 Long Island - Otmic 516.541.8357 Pittsburg - Turbozen 412.621.7759 Delaware - Marc 302.453.8567 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Friday, March 19 Philadelphia (215) 787 - 3306 COLOUR BOX Headstrong People Present C O L O U R B O X Friday March 19 9pm - 6 am Philadelphia 48 before midnight $10 after midnight MAGE (Headstrong People) DAYZ X-1 (digital Deviants) FRESHCO (Digital Deviants) DAN D.C. (Thunderground) SPIKE (Planet X) ADROK (Afterworld) INFO: SHAR-E & DAZ-E 215.787.3306 OZ 215.627.1913 DEAD BY DAWN 215.552.8833 Smart Bar By Joe Popi OZ / Front & Spring Streets / In the Spring Garden Plaza / 1 block from Delaware Avenue / next to El Stop 18 and over. No Bottles --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, March 20 Baltimore ULTRAWORLD V - COSMIC SPRING Celebrate the arrival of on the Cosmic Spring DJs: Neuromancer, DJ Who, Debo, DJ Sun, Entity, Scott Henry+ 1 more --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday March 20 ATLANTIS Warwick, RI (410) 621 - 7563 SubMerge on March 20 A T L A N T I S We are a movement of Cybernauts seeking trancidental freedom on "the island in the net" Enter the temporary autonomous zone of Atlantis and melt into the fluid light of the Aquadome. DJs: Lenny Dee (Industrial Strength, NY) Onionz (Layaway, LI) Micro (Limelight LI) Overload (Deep-Blue, ME) Osheen (nova, RI) Rio (Glookos, NY) Submergence Zones - Beyond the volcanic dance flors: The AQUADROME, a multi-image light show and Heated Pool: caverns of Chill Chambers, Saunas, hot tubs, & Steam rooms. Optional RaveGear: Swin Stuff & Towel. Locer rooms available. Life guard on duty. High Priests to the Oracle - Mellow, Blue Crew, Wonderland Tribe, X3(cubed), Primal Posse, Alan, Dave, Emily, Scott, Apple Jack, Eric, Curious george, Christy, United Techno NO ALCOHOL Donations will be made to the Amos House and Alumni Association Principles before personalities...PEACE RI Info 410.621.7563 MA Info 617.748.8632 an ORACLE production TICKETS: $12 advance, $15 day of Available at: LunaSea (RI) 401.272.LUNA Rainbow Records (RI) 401.331.6660 Boston Beat (MA) 617.561.4790 Disc-o-Rama 12" techno 212.206.8417 (moe) Planet X (NJ) 908.249.0304 MusicNow (DC) 202.638.3272 Modern Music (MD) 410.523.1882 Zootz (ME) 207.773.6979 [Warwick R.I. is about a half hour drive south of Providence along I-95] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Friday, March 26 Washington D.C. (202) 885 - 7092 A.U. MICRO-RAVE (202) 885 - 7135 micro-rave on the campus of the American University in Washington D.C. Susie Kameny and Doug Zimmerman are planing a micro-rave for March 26th. Hopefully everything will be confirmed by next rave-o-matic listing. As of now everything is being worked out and confirmed. Hope to have oil projections, Virtual Environment gear courtsey of Rob C., Smart Drinks by Inhuman, and Laser projection show by the UMD crew. Probable Dj's inc.: ne-raver Dj Slip (Ed from NY), Dj Plastech (Pat Dote,SF), Djs Havoc and Pulse (from VA)and possiblely Dj Chuck (from American U.) and Dj Neuromancer (American U./FRG) Stating March 26th, 10pm - 5am Gianni Lounge, Butler Pavilion Building. $5.00donation at door. Any profits go to improving the techno collection at school radio station WVAU (event co-sponsored by WVAU) If anyone is interested in DJ'ing or helping out in any way e-mail either Susie K. (sk2479a@american.edu) or Doug Z. (dz5401a@american.edu) A C R A F T S M A N and Clueless production --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, March 27 GREEN EGGS AND HAM New England DJs Scott Henry (D.C.) OnionZ (L.I.) Jason Jinx (NASA) James Christian (N.Y.C.) Reese (Primal) Overload (Flipside) Rob Gee (N.J.) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, March 27 COMEUNITY Eternal Productions Presents ComeUnity More than a rave It's a celebration of life through Music and dance ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, March 27 PROVIDENCE (401) 454 - 6060 DUNE ............and there the Ancient Ones gathered upon the Sands. D U N E March 27, 1993 Experience a night of astonishing wonders featuring: DUTCh from San Francisco OShEEN OnionZ KEOKI DALE CHARLES 401- 454 - 6060 ROAR WITHOUT EXCUSE !! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Saturday, March 27 BALTIMORE (410) 523 - 1882 TRIPOTRONIC SENSORY OVERLOAD For more info 410-523-1882 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Friday April 2 PITTSBURG MUTATION The Second Gathering of the Techno Tribe Brought to you by the Evolution crew $3 100% legal location on the Carnegie Mello University Campus 10:30 p.m. - 4 a.m. NON-PROFIT !!! recycled productions ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Friday-Saturday, April 2-3, 1993 MEGARAve 93 Washington D.C. Support the Underground / Support the Earth ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Saturday, April 3 (617) 859 - 1775 REVERSE (802) 656 - 782? Global DJ's bring to you GLOBAL GROVES Dante (NYC) Dale Charles (San Diego) Overload (Portland) Mayhem (Boston) Kamate (Burlington) & Special Guest DJ's Boston Info Line Burlington Info Line 617-859-1775 802-656-782? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Saturday, April 3 BACK TO THE FUTURE Washington D.C. from Michael Mecham on alt. rave: Back to the Future Rave is scheduled tentatively for April 3rd in Washington D.C. this will be the follow-up show to the succesful Future Rave of last summer. Talent will be posted later. Lookk for major live techno acts [possibly Moby or maybe Aphex Twin!], Rock Wall Climbing, bungee jumping, carnival rides, trance room, smart bar, lasers, DJs and much more. Expected to be the largest Rave on the East Coast with more than 7000 expected. Look for major promotion in the upcoming weeks. Any questions, imput or vendor information, please contact Michael Mecham e-mail internet Techno016@aol.com [Hmmmmm...could MEGARAve 93 and Back to the Future be the same rave?] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Saturday, April 17 GRIN Portland, ME (207) 773 - 6979 K.C. and the Sunrise Gang, together with Pandemonium, brought you Crusade, Sky High and Deep -- Now let us make you GRIN Saturday, April 17, Portland, ME Fully legal warehouse space overlooking the Atlantic With special guests: Frankie Bones (Storm/Brooklyn) Tin Tin (Energy/U.K.) Overload (Deep/Sky High/Portland) Dante (Evolution/N.Y.) Dale Charles, Evar (San Diego) M-gee (Rise/Primary/London) PLUS OTHERS TO COME For more info call (207)773-6979 Full-color flyers available in March woth N.Y., Boston, R.I. & N.H. bus info. Available through MelloMello, VinylMania, Planet X, Groove Records, Boston Beat, The Other Side Cafe, Lunacy, Rock Bottom Records & Bad Habits. OR, mail self-addressed envelope to GRIN, c/o ZOOTZ, 31 Forest Ave, Portland, ME 04101 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, April 24 BOSTON (617) 629 - 0777 FIELDS OF JOY Presented by Never Neverland Productions We support B.U.S. Info coming soon(617) 629-0777 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Earth Day in April (401) 751 - 5695 EARTH DAY RAVE Earth Day Rave -- April 1993 Home Planet SAT Night Rehersals & Production join us Media Circus 401-751-5695 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- May Hartford, CT SUPER BIG DOSE ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Friday June 18 - Monday June 21 RAVESTOCK NEW YORK STATE 1 - 800 - 4RAVE - LINE ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 2 Mar 93 16:06:32 -0800 From: reillye@Cyanamid.COM (Eilene Reilly) Subject: raveomatic stuff Missed this one while putting together the Rave-o-matic. Sorry. Here it is. Thanks eileen for the info - doug ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- Here's something for the rave-o-matic... hope it's in time... ThE WorLD InFAmoUs DIGITAL DEVIANTS pResEnts... WHY FRIDAY 5 MARCH 1993 2 ROOMS OF MAD SOUNDS FROM DEEP HOUSE TO HARD CORE 6 HOURS OF NON-STOP AURAL INTENSITY $6 Before Midnight/$8 After Midnight (w/pass) $10 All Time w/Out Pass 908 287 8795 for more info 908 249 0064 for directions etc that night (after 6 pm) WE RESERVE THE RIGHT TO BE SELECTIVE (tack heads, wannabes, etc- stay home) THIS IS THE REAL UNDERGROUND DEAL!!! eileen (reillye@cyanamid.com) [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1993 02:26:20 -0500 From: ncp@csmvax.simmons.edu (Neith Preston) Subject: additional nyc campers... add the possible mccune@wpi.wpi.edu the ever sunny Jesse! but...only if someone offers him a place to sleep...I have him in my car... and jjl@panix.com!!!!! check hom for confirmed lists...but contact the prospectives to keep 'em interested and happy love and frogs!!! neith [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 3 Mar 93 09:17:00 EDT From: Golden Boy Subject: Re: NYC weekend. taylor.music.cybermaestro. sayz... > i would LOVE to host a short get together.. > > BUT > > as john and laura and ed and todd and damian and golden boy and becca and a > bunch of others can attest to.. > > my aparment barely fits my gear. > > :P > > so...cna't do it.. but.. i am rather excited to see everyone! > > >.taylor.808 yah...it'z not too big...but it'z sooo cozy ! and the music is PHAT :)... shit I wish I could go to NYC...ah...might be down but not out....wait til it warmz up ... peace kidz... ABNORMAL THOUGHT : why do people complain about "bubble gum" and "commercialized" techno ?...seems to me that NOT listening to something because a great many others DO is essentially letting your musical tastez become defined by the masses by NOT listening to it for that reason...hmmm...and why isn't there any "bubble gum" classical...I listen to classical and attend symphoniez all the time...and I'm sure that a lot more people listen to Mozart or Brahmz than say 2 Unlimited... no ?... -- <> [deb9@po.cwru.edu] :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ** DAMN IT...WHERE'Z MY BLOODY WHISTLE ! ** [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: "David Burney" Date: Wed, 3 Mar 93 11:04:41 EDT Subject: Forwarded message... ----- Forwarded message begins here ----- From: N. E. Tableman; I want information autonomy! > deb9@pop.cwru.edu ** NOW YA KNOW ** ** CAN'T BEAT THE SYSTEM ** ** NOW YA KNOW ** ** GO WITH THE FLOW ** [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1993 11:18:50 -0500 From: mIkE rObErTs Subject: Andromeda info I just found out that Andromeda this weekend will be held at the W.U.S.T. Hall in D.C. Thats the ssame place that earlier Catastrophic events were held and where Moster Fest was held for those who dared to try and go to that thing. Anyhow, the place is fire rated at 750 or something and you can be damned sure that close to 1500 will be there. What does that mean? That if it dosen't get busted by the fire marshall, then its going to be wall-to-wall people. That building is like a sweat box. .......all the more reason to travel 2 hours to Krusty's........... ...if I could only get a ride.......... Oh, by the way, did anyone notice at the bottom of the Andromeda flier a little saying such as "all permits secured?" It is understandable that Tonka would say something like that after their last rave got busted at 1.30am. However.......they just rented the place a few days ago, and I would\ be willing to bet that they DON'T have a permit from the fire marshall. I mean, could you visiulize money grubbers like them to only allow 750 people in? ....I don't think so. Mike TekGuru proton@wam.umd.edu [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 3 Mar 93 11:39:07 EST From: djm@bedford.progress.COM (Dave McMahon) Subject: Re: NYC weekend. > From deb9@nextsun.INS.CWRU.Edu Wed Mar 3 09:27:43 1993 > ABNORMAL THOUGHT : why do people complain about "bubble gum" and > "commercialized" techno ?...seems to me that NOT listening to something > because a great many others DO is essentially letting your musical > tastez become defined by the masses by NOT listening to it for that > reason...hmmm...and why isn't there any "bubble gum" classical...I This discussion is no stranger to ne-raves. I think I've lost count of just how many times it's come up. Without labelling the techno that I don't like something like 'bubble gum' or 'commercialized', I'd like to point out that some of the techno I DON'T like _happens_to_be_ what some would call 'commercialized' or 'bubble gum' techno. This is very different from saying: "I don't like it BECAUSE it IS 'commercialized' or 'bubble gum' techno. One of these methods of lends itself to musical discovery, while the other lends more to trendiness. You decide. dave. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu (Brian Behlendorf (Vitamin B)) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1993 08:41:51 -0800 Subject: Bubblegum music >ABNORMAL THOUGHT : why do people complain about "bubble gum" and >"commercialized" techno ?...seems to me that NOT listening to something >because a great many others DO is essentially letting your musical >tastez become defined by the masses by NOT listening to it for that >reason...hmmm...and why isn't there any "bubble gum" classical...I >listen to classical and attend symphoniez all the time...and I'm sure >that a lot more people listen to Mozart or Brahmz than say 2 Unlimited... >no ?... There's bubblegum classical: look at half the movie soundtracks being put out today. With the exception of John Williams and Danny Elfman, and few others, I find that kind of gut-wrenching tear-jerking classical a bit much. There's also bubblegum opera; it's also called a musical. And bubblegum country, otherwise known as Garth Brooks... and bubblegum ambient, also known as "new age". Every branch of the musical tree has its 2 Unlimited, it seems :) Brian [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 3 Mar 93 12:11:00 EST From: "John Speakman" Subject: NYC w/e Hiya! The Orb-less Orb show this Sat is now called Bro (geddit?), according to the Village Voice, and features DJ Lewis ("from the Orb"), Frankie Bones, On-E, Onionz and Mr. Kleen. Don't think I'm going but if I see any badge wearers loitering around my neighborhood I will say hi. John. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 3 Mar 93 14:34:57 -0500 From: map@cs.brown.edu (Mike Perkowitz) Subject: pictures. yet again. ne-ravers: as you may have noticed, i've been taking pictures at raves and plan to keep on doing it. it's fun. i also know that at least a few people are interested in getting copies of my prints. so i have some questions and comments: (1) are there really a number of people interested in getting their own prints, or would most of you just like to look at mine sometime and that would make you happy enough? (2) if you would like your own prints, how do you think we should go about doing it? i.e. would you like to look at a contact sheet, tell me which ones you want, and then wait until i can get them printed? or, faster, would you like to just order them on descriptions (some people have just said "can i get copies of whatever pictures you have of )? a complication: it may be that i won't even know how much the prints are going to cost until i know how many i'm making. quantity discounts and all that. i could do them in batches, but then there's even more delay. for my pictures from wonderland, i just printed up some extras and sold them to whoever was interested at cost. this is nice for you, because you can just look at the pictures and, if you like them, get them then and there. but it has its drawbacks. for one thing, i, of course, get burnt if no one is particularly interested in some of the prints. what's more, i was all but accused of trying to pull a profit off of selling the prints. a word of advice: if you think $8 film + $10 processing/contact sheet + $25 for prints is the path to riches, have your head examined. i think i got back $5-$6. i'm taking the pictures for my own personal pleasure and don't really mind the costs involved. if other people can enjoy it too, that's great. but i can't afford to give out prints the way jesse gives out gummy worms, much as i'd like to. so i'm just trying to find out: what's a simple easy way i can share this with people who are interested. if there are only a few of you anyway, then it's not a big deal. if there are a number, i may have to do something organized. at any rate, input is welcome. another question: what do you photographers pay for processing and printing? i take my stuff to a professional place that knows what they're doing, but i know i pay for that... how much would you expect to pay for processing (sometimes having to push the film), how much to make a contact sheet, and how much for prints (if you take the negs back later)? mike [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1993 14:49:06 -0500 From: ncp@csmvax.simmons.edu (Neith Preston) Subject: Re: NYC weekend. hey, got word that the rave is inside in New Brunswick and the afterhours is outside in Edison.....Does that mean there is a possibility, Golden Boy??? Love and Frogs!!! Neith [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: "Golden Boy" Date: Wed, 3 Mar 93 15:55:29 CST Subject: Re: pictures. yet again. On Wed, 3 Mar 93 14:34:57 -0500, Mike Perkowitz wrote: >so i'm just trying to find out: what's a simple easy way i can share this >with people who are interested. if there are only a few of you anyway, >then it's not a big deal. if there are a number, i may have to do something > organized. at any rate, input is welcome. > > >mike what about scanning them and shooting them up to a FTP site ? <> deb9@pop.cwru.edu ** NOW YA KNOW ** ** CAN'T BEAT THE SYSTEM ** ** NOW YA KNOW ** ** GO WITH THE FLOW ** [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: giamma@oas.olivetti.com (Gianmaria Clerici) Subject: D.C. clubs/raves Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1993 13:52:03 -0800 (PST) I'll be in D.C. the 10th and the 11th of March for Interop. Could someone give me some suggestions about clubs/raves happening in those days ?? Gianmaria [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 03 Mar 93 17:06:47 EST From: "Douglas B. Zimmerman" Subject: IN DC? GO TO THE 9:30 CLUB TONIGHT!! Hey everyone!!!! If you are in the DC area tonight and are not doing anything check out the 9:30 CLUB tonight!!!! I am going to be dj'ing, and its gonna be some dope techno, and well if anyone just wants to dance then go!!!! And if anyone has a record or CD that they want me to play then bring it and i shall!!!! It is College Night, So it costs $1 with a student ID, $3 without!!! It is not going to be all techno, Some other college radio station dj's are going to be there + group All-Mighty Senators and False Face Society So if your free please come and try and get a cool vibe going! Hope to c u there. ill have on my ne-raves badge dj doughs doug ))))) a b00mingg baSS for a l0ving race ((((( dz5401a@american.edu PEACE! [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Subject: Re: Popular techno From: Rob H Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1993 13:48:40 -0500 > ABNORMAL THOUGHT : why do people complain about "bubble gum" and > "commercialized" techno ?...seems to me that NOT listening to something > because a great many others DO is essentially letting your musical > tastez become defined by the masses by NOT listening to it for that > reason...hmmm...and why isn't there any "bubble gum" classical...I > listen to classical and attend symphoniez all the time...and I'm sure > that a lot more people listen to Mozart or Brahmz than say 2 Unlimited... > no ?... > > -- > <> [deb9@po.cwru.edu] > :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: > ** DAMN IT...WHERE'Z MY BLOODY WHISTLE ! ** > > Good point... I'd also like to add that even though 2 Unlimited and the like might sound really dull to people who have been listening to techno for a while, I think that their songs still sound quite different from the music played at your typical mainstream club. People who are attracted to 2 Unlimited may delve deeper into techno and discover some of the underground stuff. Speaking for myself, I got interested in techno when I heard the infamous JBID... While I'd acknowledge now that JBID is not a particularly innovative track, it had such a different style from everything else I'd heard that I started looking for other techno music... Later Rob [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 3 Mar 93 18:28:23 EST From: djm@bedford.progress.COM (Dave McMahon) Subject: Re: Popular techno > Speaking for myself, I got interested in techno when I heard the > infamous JBID... While I'd acknowledge now that JBID is not a particularly > innovative track, it had such a different style from everything else I'd > heard that I started looking for other techno music... ...ravenously I might add. Ditto here. JBIB, for me too, was the launching pad for my never ending search for interesting techno. While my tastes now are far from JBID, I definitely have to give respects to that track for getting me started. dave. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 3 Mar 93 21:29:15 -0500 From: brendan mcdougall Subject: Call for Articles: Virtual Culture and Law Hi, We don't get much more virtual do we? Too, I was thinking that it would be interesting to incorporate a list into ,e.g. a non-profit corporation. This way no one person bears the risk of a venture as a single person. Anyway something to get the cyber juices flowing for the weekend o' fun and dance and community. Brendan From: Jim Milles CALL FOR ARTICLES ARACHNET ELECTRONIC JOURNAL OF VIRTUAL CULTURE SPECIAL ISSUE: VIRTUAL CULTURE AND LAW Issue Editor: James Milles (millesjg@sluvca.slu.edu) The Arachnet Electronic Journal of Virtual Culture (EJVC) announces a call for papers for a special issue on Virtual Culture and Law, to be published in June 1993. Virtual culture is computer-mediated human experience, behavior, thought, meaning, action, or interaction, such as electronic mail, conferences, and journals; information distribution and retrieval; the construction and visualization of images, representations, or models of reality or worlds; and global connectivity. The Arachnet Electronic Journal on Virtual Culture is a refereed journal whose purpose is to foster, encourage, advance, and communicate scholarly thought, (including analysis, evaluation, and research) in multiple disciplines about virtual culture. Papers for the special issue may address any aspect of the intersection of virtual culture and law, from the practical (such as copyright and liability issues) to the theoretical (the law and virtual communities; computer-mediated communication and the future of law.) EJVC seeks authors who do not have established publication records, as well as established authors with reputations as scholars and experts. All manuscripts will be given at least three blind reviews by a jury of referees. EJVC uses multiple styles, flexible among articles but consistent within any given article. Any recognized standard of style shall be acceptable; however, for the Special Issue, either _The Bluebook: A Uniform System of Citation_ (15th ed.), or APA style, modified for ASCII, shall be the preferred style, allowing for creative styling if essential to the integrity of the article. Each contribution shall conform to the following minimal form: Articles shall start with an abstract/description (< 200 lines) Number paragraphs and pages Provide internal/in-text citation Provide electronic references where appropriate Superscripts in text/endnotes ^2^ Use blank line separators between paragraphs, which shall have no indentations Provide only substantive endnotes All submissions must be by electronic mail to James Milles, Saint Louis University, Special Issue Editor (millesjg@sluvca.slu.edu). The deadline for the June 1993 special issue is May 1, 1993. ----------------------------------------------------------- ------ Editorial Board (EJVC Founders/Arachnet Moderators) (3) Ermel Stepp, Marshall University, Editor-in-Chief M034050@Marshall.wvnet.edu Diane (Di) Kovacs, Kent State University, Co-Editor DKOVACS@Kentvm.Kent.edu A. Ralph Papakhian, Indiana University, Consulting Editor PAPAKHI@@IUBVM Consulting Editors (17) Anne Balsamo, Georgia Institute of Technology ab45@prism.gatech.edu Patrick (Pat) Conner, West Virginia University u47c2@WVNVM.WVNET.EDU Skip Coppola, Applied Technology, Inc. skip%aptech@bagend.atl.ga.us Lydia Fish, Buffalo State College, SUNY FISHLM@SNYBUFVA.BITNET Cynthia J. Fuchs, George Mason University cfuchs@gmuvax.bitnet Stevan Harnad, Princeton University harnad@Princeton.EDU Edward M. (Ted) Jennings, University at Albany, SUNY EMJ69@ALBNYVMS Michael Joyce, Vassar MIJOYCE@vaxsar.vassar.edu or USERTFSG@UMICHUM Jay Lemke, City University of New York JLLBC@CUNYVM.BITNET Carl Eugene Loeffler, Carnegie Mellon University cel+@andrew.cmu.edu Willard McCarty, University of Toronto editor@EPAS.UTORONTO.CA James (Jim) Milles, Saint Louis University millesjg@sluvca.slu.edu Algirdas Pakstas, The University of Trondheim, Norway Algirdas.Pakstas@idt.unit.no A. Ralph Papakhian, Indiana University PAPAKHI@@IUBVM Bernie Sloan, University of Illinois, Champaign AXPBBGS@UICVMC.BITNET or b-sloan@uiuc.edu Allucquere Roseanne Stone, University of Texas, Austin success@emc.cc.utexas.edu Kali Tal, Viet Nam Generation kali@access.digex.com Associate Editors (21) Robert J. (Bob) Beebe, Youngstown State University ad219@yfn.ysu.edu David W. Brown, Ball State University 01dwbrown@LEO.BSUVC.BSU.EDU Kathleen Burnett, Rutgers University BURNET@zodiac.rutgers.edu G. Phillip Cartwight, University of California, Davis PCARTWRI@KENTVM Paulo A. Dasilva, Military Institute of Engineering, Brazil S9PAULO@IMERJ.BITNET Jan George Frajkor, Carleton University, Canada gfrajkor@ccs.carleton.ca Dave Gomberg, University of California, San Francisco GOMBERG@UCFSVM Mary Hocks, University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaigne mhocks@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu Nancy Kaplan, University of Texas, Dallas NKaplan@utdallas.bitnet Brendan Kehoe, Cygnus Support bk@well.sf.ca.us Joan Korenman, University of Maryland, Baltimore County korenman@umbc2.umbc.edu or korenman@umbc Steven D. Koski, St. Bonaventure University KOSKI@sbu.edu Sharyn Ladner, University of Miami SLADNER@umiami.IR.miami.EDU Lyonette Louis-Jacques, University of Chicago llou@midway.uchicago.edu Joseph Psotka, Army Research Institute PSOTKA@alexandria-emh2.army.mil Martin E. Rosenberg, University of Kentucky MROSE01@UKCC.uky.edu Laverna Saunders, University of Nevada, Las Vegas saunders@nevada.edu David Sewell, University of Rochester dsew@TROI.CC.ROCHESTER.EDU Christinger (Chris) Tomer, University of Pittsburgh ctomer@vms.cis.pitt.edu or ctomer+@pitt.edu Stuart Weibel, OCLC stu@oclc.org Bob Zenhausern, St. Johns University drz@sjuvm.stjohns.edu or drz@sjuvm.bitnet ----------------------------------------------------------- ------ James Milles Special Issue Editor, EJVC Issue on Virtual Culture and Law Head of Computer Services Saint Louis University Law Library millesjg@sluvca.slu.edu [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 3 Mar 93 19:29:29 -0800 From: reillye@Cyanamid.COM (Eileen Reilly) Subject: nyc hookup An incomplete and tentative list of dj's for WHY on Friday is... Spike (planet x) Dayz-X-One (digital deviants) Frescho (digital deviants) More info will be added tomorrow night..... eileen (reillye@cyanamid.com) [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1993 22:09:24 -0500 From: ncp@csmvax.simmons.edu (Neith Preston) Subject: nyc john speakman lives in Nyc...so if your going there tell him hi!!! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ = SPEAKMAN@biost.mkcc.org Love and Frogs!!! Neith [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: kawakami@noc.usfca.edu (Sea of Sin) Subject: media views Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1993 19:54:51 -0800 (PST) I was thinking about writing my paper on how raves are portrayed in the media. I know there has been tv segments and newspaper articles locally in SF, and nationally like The New York Times, etc. I'm not sure if you've seen some of the articles or segments about raves, but I'd like to hear some of your comments on how you agree or disagree on the portrayal of raves in the media. And also if you were to do a segment or article on your own, what would you include in your story? You can either send the replies directly to me, or if anyone feels like posting their replies to neraves (without increasing the flow of traffic too much) then that's fine too. Thanks. Cindy seaofsinseaofsinseaofsinseaofsinseaofsinseaofsinseaofsinseaofsinseaofsin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It's extraordinary how we go through life with eyes half shut, with dull ears, with dormant thoughts. Perhaps it's just as well; and it may be that it is this very dullness that makes life to the incalculable majority so supportable and so welcome." -Joseph Conrad ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ kawakami@noc.usfca.edu kawakami@dons.ac.usfca.edu kawakami@alm.admin.usfca.edu [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 03 Mar 1993 23:02:39 -0600 (CST) From: ETCXIAAF@karl.acc.iit.edu Subject: VOTE! for a DJ name.. I need to think of a DJ name... here are a few that some friends and I have come up with.. -- DJ Sonic -- The JMC -- DJ Cosmos -- DJ Infinity Well...which one should I be? **Or are theses the dumbest names you've ever heard of??** Please, feel free to suggest any other names... Oh..and that JMC thing are my initials.. Julian Carow, Evanston/Chicago, Illinois Tune of the week: Jack and Jill / "WORK IT GIRLFRIEND" (Strictly Rhythm) || || __ |##| |\/| |||| |##| __ |/\| | |||| _|##| [] |==| |\/| / \ |||| | |####| |--| |==| |/\| _ |:| |||| |:| |####| _ |--| |==| |\/|_| ||:|_||||_|:|_|####||"||--| __|==|-|/\| | ||:| ||||=|:| |####||"||--|__ [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 04 Mar 1993 01:35:32 -0400 (EDT) From: SUPERFLY-JONES Subject: Re: Forwarded message... Golden Boy: Tell your friend to check out Vinylmania on Carmine st. in NYC they have two stores: one covers all dance music the other is all techno. Its worth having a look. Warm psychedelia to all, Tarek [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: techno016@aol.com Subject: Re: MEGARave '93 or Back to the Future Date: Wed, 03 Mar 93 23:08:26 EST I received this message from Michael Mecham. It is about the MEGARave or Back to the Future rave. Here it is: ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- I am doing a rave called Back To The Future. It is the Mega rave that everyone is talking about. The DJs are: Me (Michael Meacham) Scott Henry, Frankie Bones, Onionz, Lennie Dee, Keoki, Dave Trance, Stribe, On-E, Sean McIlvain, Jimmy Crash, Mr. Kleen, Ed Bailey, Scott Richmond, Wink, Jason Jinx, Leiven DeGeyndt, Dave The Wave, Criss Herr, and John Debo Performing Live will be N.R.G. I Need Your Loving" and Aphex Twins. There's to much more to list. I will have flyers on Thursday. The rave line is 202-331-4465 I look forward to talking to you soon. Michael Meacham -------------------------------------------------------------------------- doug ))))) a b00mingg baSS for a l0ving race ((((( dz5401a@american.edu [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Thu, 4 Mar 93 02:18:26 -0500 From: jna@silver.lcs.mit.edu (from bali to kali to beneath the coral sea) Subject: Re: pictures. yet again. Many of us have completely capable gif viewers and some, at colleges have gorgeous XWindow Displays and Xgif or Xview to see gif's with ... Maybe the main objective here is to get your photos to someone with a scanner, combine the pix 4 to a screen and upload them. People who want detail can use that magic zoom button.. Color or Flatbed color scanner anyone? -john [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: "Golden Boy" Date: Thu, 4 Mar 93 09:05:59 CST Subject: Re: Popular techno On Wed, 3 Mar 93 18:28:23 EST, Dave McMahon wrote: > >> Speaking for myself, I got interested in techno when I heard the >> infamous JBID... While I'd acknowledge now that JBID is not a particularly >> innovative track, it had such a different style from everything else I'd >> heard that I started looking for other techno music... >....ravenously I might add. > >Ditto here. > >JBIB, for me too, was the launching pad for my never ending search for >interesting techno. > >While my tastes now are far from JBID, I definitely have to give respects to >that track for getting me started. > >dave. You know what got me started .... "HE WHO CONTROLS THE SPICE...CONTROLS THE UNIVERSE" still play that song at ridiculous volume levelz ! +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ <> deb9@pop.cwru.edu ** WHOA ! IS THAT THE BEE GEE'Z AT +8 ** [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1993 10:28:20 -0500 From: Thieu Le Subject: Monster Fest anybody went to Monster Fest? i was curious to other people's opinion about the rave. i'd like to know the following....what you thought of the place? the dj's on the main dance floor? the chill out room? the dj's in the chillout room? the lights? the rave in general..... [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Thu, 4 Mar 93 12:18 EST From: laura@usl.com Subject: NEW YORK CITY-bound NE-RAVERS! All Ne-Ravers either in New York City or coming to New York City this Friday. Due to the kindness, generosity, and all around grooviness of Donato I will be at home all weekend. And this means that I will make my apartment in Hoboken (one subway stop from Greenwich Village + about a 12 minute walk) available Friday night for a pre-WHY (or whatever you plan to do that night) gathering. This will be very simple compared to parties I've thrown in the past . . . i.e. no PA or turntables, so bring any DJ mix tapes you care to share. WHO: Any ne-raver in the New York City area (or visiting) who feels like coming to Hoboken WHAT: A pre-whatever gathering/chill/mellow-out/hang-out WHERE: Laura's apartment, Hoboken NJ WHEN: Friday, March 5, from 7.00 PM onward. WHY starts at 11, so I'm figuring everyone will clear out by then. WHY: Because I LOVE playing hostess and I'm still too sick to really do much intense raving or clubbing this week. Don't worry, it's not communicable. Cronic bronchitis. I just need to not breathe fog juice and smoke for a while, and get decent amounts of rest. Of course, I'll probably end up at the WHY party in New Brunswick for a few hours, but it's close to home . . . (45 minute drive tops). PLEASE: If you can remember, bring like a bottle of soda or juice or a bag of munchies to share. There are corner stores all over Hoboken, so you can just snag a bottle of coke or something on the way over. RSVP: If you think you'll be by, just drop me a line, thanks. HOW: Here are the directions and phone numbers. I will have directions to New Brunswick available at my house for anyone going to WHY. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Laura's phone numbers are [home, from like 6.30 onward] - (201) - 217 - 9192 [work, from 9.00 am to 6.00 pm] - (908) - 522 - 6396 FROM BOSTON Mass Pike West to I-84 West I-84 West to Hartford, pick up I-91 South I-91 South to New Haven, pick up I-95 South I-95 South to New York City If you're going straight to the City, follow signs for the George Washington Bridge. Get off at the last exit before the bridge, route 9A South, the Henry Hudson Parkway. The Parkway will eventually dump you around 45th Street in Manhatten. From there it's up to you. If you are coming to my house (and I can't guarantee I'll be home until 7.00 pm since I need to run to the grocery store), continue over the George Washington Bridge and pick up the New Jersey Turnpike South. Follow the signs to exit 17 (maybe it's 17A), for the Lincoln Tunnel. Make the exit for the Lincoln Tunnel and follow the signs as if you were going to go through the Tunnel *except* exit at the last exit in New Jersey, for Hoboken and Weehawken. As you come off the exit stay to the right and go through the light and continue down the hill. At the next light, make a right (you don't have a choice). Stay to the left and follow the signs to Hoboken. You will pass the Lincoln Tunnel on your right, then through a few lights. You will see an Exxon station on your right, and Dykes Lumber on your left. The road will go up an overpass and then down into Hoboken itself. At the first light after the overpass (there will be a Merit gas station on your right), make a right. This is 14th Street in Hoboken. Go one block to the very next light, and make a left. This is Willow Ave. Start counting, since there aren't a lot of street signs in Hoboken. Go 12 blocks down Willow to 2nd Street, and make a right. Keep counting. Go 5 blocks to Madison Street, and make a right. I live on Madison between 2nd and 3rd, so immeditely look for a place to park. My house is #218, and the buzzer number is 1-S. The building is about one third of the way up the street on the left, and is like the only nice house on the block. It is brick with white trim and is recessed from the street. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ If you come from Manhatten, how you come depends on what Tunnel you come through: LINCOLN TUNNEL (there are entrances to the Lincoln Tunnel up around 36th, 40th, and 42nd Streets on the West Side of Manhatten -- like 9th and 10th Avenues). Go through the tunnel. As you exit get ALL the way over to your right and make the very first exit, it will say Hoboken and "alternate route to [whole list of roads]." Go to the first light. You will see an Exxon station on your left and a Shell station on your right. Continue down this street, up and over an overpass, and down into Hoboken. Go through another light or two. The corner with the Merit gas station on your left is 14th Street. You are now at 14th Street and Willow Avenue in Hoboken. Start counting, since there aren't a lot of street signs in Hoboken. Continue 12 blocks down Willow to 2nd Street, and make a right. Keep counting. Go 5 blocks to Madison Street, and make a right. I live on Madison between 2nd and 3rd, so immeditely look for a place to park. My house is #218, and the buzzer number is 1-S. The building is about one third of the way up the street on the left, and is like the only nice house on the block. It is brick with white trim and is recessed from the street. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ HOLLAND TUNNEL (there's an entrance to the Holland Tunnel off of Canal St., which is south of Greenwich Village) Go through the tunnel. As you exit get all the way over to your right and make a right at the very first light. You will see a Merit gas station on your right. Continue down under the train tracks. You are now in Hoboken. The road comes to a T after the train tracks. Make a left. You will see Ali Baba's Restaraunt and a fire station on your right. Go through one light, and at the next street after the light make a right. This is Jefferson Street, but there are no street signs. Go through one light and up to a stop sign. Make a right at the stop sign. This is 1st Street. Go two blocks and make a left. This is my street, Madison Street. There's no street sign, but there is an incredibly hideous yellow building on the corner. Go up Madison Street, cross over 2nd, and immediately look for a place to park. My house is #218, and the buzzer number is 1-S. The building is about one third of the way up the street on the left, and is like the only nice house on the block. It is brick with white trim and is recessed from the street. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION Get yourself to Hoboken, by either taking the PATH from Manhatten (stops at 33rd and 6th, 2?th and 6th, 14th and 6th, 9th and 6th, and Christopher all the way west) or New Jersey Transit trains from the Jersey 'burbs. When you get to Hoboken Station, exit out to the street. This is Hudson Place. Walk left along Hudson Place. You will pass "Harry's TX & AZ" restaraunt and "Santa Fe Yacht Club" restaraunt on your right. At the corner where the Santa Fe Yacht Club is, hang a right. You are now on Hudson St. Walk 3 blocks to 2nd Street. Turn left. Walk 10 blocks to Madison St. Turn right. My house is #218, and the buzzer number is 1-S. The building is about one third of the way up the street on the left, and is like the only nice house on the block. It is brick with white trim and is recessed from the street. --- Or, you can take a cab from Hoboken Station. I should cost $3.00 including tip. --- [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: dionf@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Francois Dion) Subject: Re: MEGARave '93 or Back to the Future Date: Thu, 4 Mar 93 13:20:09 EST Beyond the ultraworld of techno016@aol.com: > > The DJs are: Me (Michael Meacham) Scott Henry, Frankie Bones, Onionz, Lennie > Dee, Keoki, Dave Trance, Stribe, On-E, Sean McIlvain, Jimmy Crash, Mr. Kleen, > Ed Bailey, Scott Richmond, Wink, Jason Jinx, Leiven DeGeyndt, Dave The Wave, > Criss Herr, and John Debo Performing Live will be N.R.G. I Need Your Loving" > and Aphex Twins. 20 djs and 2 band. Isn't that a bit silly? I mean they will play 2 songs each? The magic number for me is 5. More than 5 DJs and i dont go. And if i DJ as a guest DJ, again 5 is max, and if i do a real set, 3 DJ is a maximum.. Ciao, -- Francois Dion ' _ _ _ CISM (_) (_) _) FM Montreal , Canada Email: CISM@ERE.UMontreal.CA (_) / . _) 10000 Watts Telephone no: (514) 343-7511 _______________________________________________________________________________ Audio-C-DJ-Fractals-Future-Label-Multimedia-Music-Radio-Rave-Video-VR-Volvo-... [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: dionf@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Francois Dion) Subject: Re: MEGARave '93 or Back to the Future Date: Thu, 4 Mar 93 13:20:09 EST >Beyond the ultraworld of techno016@aol.com: >> >> The DJs are: Me (Michael Meacham) Scott Henry, Frankie Bones, Onionz, Lennie >>Dee, Keoki, Dave Trance, Stribe, On-E, Sean McIlvain, Jimmy Crash, Mr. Kleen, >> Ed Bailey, Scott Richmond, Wink, Jason Jinx, Leiven DeGeyndt, Dave The Wave, >>Criss Herr, and John Debo Performing Live will be N.R.G. I Need Your Loving" >>and Aphex Twins. >20 djs and 2 band. Isn't that a bit silly? I mean they will play 2 songs each? > >The magic number for me is 5. More than 5 DJs and i dont go. And if i DJ as a >guest DJ, again 5 is max, and if i do a real set, 3 DJ is a maximum.. MEGARave'93 is supposed to be a two day event going on April 2-3rd >Ciao, >-- >Francois Dion > ' _ _ _ >CISM (_) (_) _) FM Montreal , Canada Email: CISM@ERE.UMontreal.CA > (_) / . _) 10000 Watts Telephone no: (514) 343-7511 >______________________________________________________________________________ >Audio-C-DJ-Fractals-Future-Label-Multimedia-Music-Radio-Rave-Video-VR-Volvo-.. doug )) (( dz5401a@american.edu [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: Jesse Brook McCune Subject: a trip Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1993 14:38:31 -0500 (EST) no...not acid... ;) This is to anyone that lives anywhere between NYC and Georgia: OK...here's the story...a friend of mine wants to visit someone in Georgia but isn't allowed to go unless someone goes with him...so...I volunteered to go at least part way with him, and be picked up by him about a week later on his way back up...we will be leaving on Saturday morning...I don't know exactly what day we'll be coming back...the thing is, the person he's going to visit is a potential girlfriend, so I can't stay with them...so if anyone has a spot on the floor open or anything for a week and wouldn't mind entertaining me(I'd probably be the one doing the entertaining), I would greatly appreciate it...otherwise I will probably end up being dropped off on the beach somewhere, and just live on the beach with a sleeping bag for the week...let me know ASAP...thanks... :) Live on...love on...rave on... -Sunshine ============================================================================== | I am Sunshine... || I am the boy who makes her heart || Jesse B McCune | | @ @ || feel happy, and shines like the sun! || WPI Box 609 | | \_/ ||======================================|| Worcester, MA | | on a cloudy day! || mccune@wpi.wpi.edu PH#:(508)791-3345 || 01609 | ============================================================================== I NEEEEEEEEEEED your lovin'... [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1993 14:44:27 -0500 (EST) From: Alan Michael Parry Subject: HOM Last call for any information you want on the HOM this week. Should be out later on tonight...thanks =) --Fluid [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1993 14:42:18 -0500 From: Thieu Le Subject: Monster fest my review of the rave...i sent one out before but i found out that it only went to one person so i'm gonna try to type in what i entered before... ok, i was asked to help dj the chillout room at Monster fest. when i got there, it was around 9:30. the room was not very big. the dj stuff took up about 1/2 the room already. anyway, after i got my stuff setup, i went up to the main dj booth and managed to sneak a tape deck into the output of the mixer. even though dave trance said that i couldn't record him, i mananged to do so. i got about 2 and 1/2 tapes of the show, so if anyone wants a copy, send me email and we can work something out (it'll probably only going to cost you shipping because i am not looking to make any money out of this). is it illegal for me to give free copies of tapes made at a rave? now, back to the review....the first set spun on the main dance floor was by a filipino/asian dude who did a really good breakbeat set. after him came dave trance. i thought he was pretty awesome. he blended hip hop style mixing with hardcore! what a treat! after him was mike meachem from the fifth. he spun yet another hardcore set. i don't know the rest of the night's line up because i had to spin in the chillout room. my first set was completely housey. when i first got in there, there were only a few people dancing and the rest just sat along the wall "chilling out" i guess. i tried to keep the crowd, but it didn't seem like anyone wanted to dance to house...fortunately, my set passed by pretty quick...next up in the chillout room was my boss spinning all rap and raggae. I was really suprised to see so many people dancing to that stuff. i got back on after him and tried to keep the vibe with even more rap and hip hop. i never knew that ravers had other musical interest....things you learn at raves..... anyway, some dude named john took the tables after me and did some ambient. i didn't stick around for his set because i wanted to see the main dance floor dj spin. when i went back up to the booth, dave wink was spinning his tribal set and it got me real high! i think i'm gonna start buying more tribal than house! anyway, i didn't stay up there long because there were alot of people/djs hanging out up there. My boss came back and told me that i was to close the night with the last set in the chillout room....whoopee...maybe i can try my house set again with better luck....maybe.... good thing more people came into the chillout room and danced to my last house set! i was suprised to see people actually dancing to my mixes. see, up until last saturday, i've always dreamed of spinning at a club...i've never thought i'd make it as far as a rave! i mainly do the local house parties and so a step up like this just makes my whole life worth living!! even though my ex decided to go out with another guy and not tell me about it.....but forget her....she's completely out of my life....she didn't want to go to monster fest, so i didn't get to dance all night long.....but i'm not bothered by her (or am trying real hard not to get bothered by her) so........... sorry to get a little bit off track there...in my opinion, the rave was pretty good. it was only my second rave (future being the first) and i feel great about it. there were a lot of people there with lots of candies exchanged and lots of smiley faces :) :) :) :) ...... the only problem i think was that towards the end of the night (between 2:30 and 4:00), one of the toilet overflowed and soaked the dancefloor. besides that, things were pretty good. anybody else has any other opinions? oh, another thing, i ran into some dude who was having a bad trip or something and at the end, he came back and apologized for his behaivor. wow, what a nice guy.....if any of you were there, i was the small asian guy (5' 4.5" and REAL skinny) wearing a green shirt with a green hood underneath and glasses. i was around the chillout area most of the night..... [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: "Golden Boy" Date: Thu, 4 Mar 93 14:32:25 CST Subject: MEGARave '93 or Back to the Future >hey doug...where is this NYC ? > >peace.road.trip. >+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ><> deb9@pop.cwru.edu > > ** WHOA ! IS THAT THE BEE GEE'Z AT +8 ** I'm feeling bad guys:( Doesn't anyone read the Rave-o-matic? MEGARave is supposed to be happining in Washington D.C. on April 2-3rd. doug ))))) rave junkie - just one more hit PLEEEEZE!?! ((((( dz5401a@american.edu [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Thu, 4 Mar 93 15:32:38 -0500 From: epeirce@acs.bu.edu (Erin Peirce) Subject: Re: VOTE! for a DJ name.. hmmmm....why not try simply *Julian* ? sounds lovely to me. -erin epeirce@acs.bu.edu [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: "Golden Boy" Date: Thu, 4 Mar 93 15:36:38 CST Subject: Re: VOTE! for a DJ name.. On Thu, 4 Mar 93 15:32:38 -0500, Erin Peirce wrote: >hmmmm....why not try simply *Julian* ? sounds lovely to me. > >-erin >epeirce@acs.bu.edu great point from erin !...julian is a classic name with a cool ring. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ <> deb9@pop.cwru.edu ** WHOA ! IS THAT THE BEE GEE'Z AT +8 ** [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Thu, 04 Mar 93 15:33:31 EST From: "Douglas B. Zimmerman" Subject: A chance to djat a club Last night was a cool time. I got a chance to dj at a club in Washington D.C. called 9:30. Earlier in the day i was thinking about sleep after midterms and procrastination and 10 hours sleep the past three days. But then Robin, the music director for the American U. radio station called up and asked if i would be interested to dj at the 9:30 club for the college night they were having. One dj from each college radio station in the area, George Washington, U Maryland, and Georgetown along with American U.would be there. I can't beat-match and do all those cool stuff, but heck who really cares? so, I said YES! The chance to dj at a club, any club. wow! So grabbed together my measly collection, got a few things from the radio station, some money and headed for MusicNow before going over to the 9:30. Contrary to all reports, the people there were kind of friendly. Frankie Hartung was working and i asked him some questions and he helped me pick up some stuff. Got some DOPE hardcore, CYBERSONIK and this song called Hocus Pocus, and a trance albulm by Apollo i think and headed over to the 9:30 club. Got there and got in. All the dj's from the other schools there and we were shown the ropes of what to do in the booth by the director of 9:30 Norm. Some of the other guys there from GWU knew about techno and i talked with him and he told stories bout his sister who is dating OnionZ and stuff. Cool. It got started around 7:30, but I was not to dj until after the live act, which would be about 10:45. The live group was this grunge/rock band called Q, which combinded the ex-ALL Mighty Senators & False Face Society(has anyone heard of them?), so the crowd was definately not ravey. In fact not a lot of people showed up. There were perhaps fifty people there at most. The other schools played earlier. There was one person from UMD who spun some cool breakbeat, but i was the only one dancing on the bare dance floor, and he beat-matched and everything which was cool. Then the other dj's played and they played alt. rock and industrial and some hard rock until 'Q' came on, so i went up to the dj booth and tried to plan out my show while they were on so i had my headphones and was not really listening. At the end of their set, before they played their encore the group was saying something on stage, and they were looking up at me in the booth. I took of my headphones to hear them say something like, "Would you like to hear another song, or would you like to hear some techno?" And the crowd was like, "Play another song!" So they Played another song, and finally my turn. Started off with "Hi my name is Doug, I from WVAU, American U's radio station. Our music director Robin is out there on the floor somewhere. Here we go." Started out with Cybersonik, which was some PHAT,HARDstuff. Then played this Aphex Twin song and fooled around and eventually some breakbeat, and then slowed it down to some trance and acid house. I guess it was a first introduction to techno for a lot of the people in the crowd. A lady came up to me and asked one particular song i was playing which was Moby, Next is the E! that she thought was cool. I played Blue by LaTour, and Robin came up asking about the song, cause i guess it was in Basic Instinct. I can't mix or beat match, so did all these gimicks, but it was hard to tell if they worked cause had my headphones on. I couldn't really tell what the reaction of the crowd was because there were CD's and amps in my view of the dance floor. But it got kind of mixxed reaction at the end. Ended the set up with Thousand by Moby. After the first time the song had sped up someone yelled "That song is DOPE!" but other people started throwing things at me. One guy came up into the DJ booth saying "I've never heard anything like this in my life before? How did he do this?" :) So all in all i got a chance to dj at a club. My mixing sucked but it was fun as heck!It was definatelty an experience i wont forget soon :) doug ))))) a b00mingg baSS for a l0ving race ((((( dz5401a@american.edu [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1993 16:18:21 -0500 (EST) From: mike perkowitz Subject: The Coordinator List (NEW: TR-808) picked this up on rec.music.makers.synth it's reviews of "coordinators" - including drum machines and sequencers - 808, 909, 303, 202, and other stuff. mike ------------------------ Article: 2829 of rec.music.makers.synth Path: news.Brown.EDU!qt.cs.utexas.edu!yale.edu!think.com!enterpoop.mit.edu!eru.mt.luth.se!lunic!sunic!corax.udac.uu.se!Minsk.docs.uu.se!vick From: vick@Minsk.docs.uu.se (Mikael Lundgren) Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth,comp.music Subject: The Coordinator List (NEW: TR-808) Keywords: sequencer,drummachine,analog Message-ID: Date: 28 Feb 93 19:43:01 GMT Distribution: inet Organization: Uppsala University Lines: 481 NNTP-Posting-Host: minsk.docs.uu.se Xref: news.Brown.EDU rec.music.makers.synth:2829 comp.music:2104 The list of Coordinators - a guide for buyers of new or old coordinators maintained by Mikael Lundgren (vick@bern.docs.uu.se) Q: What is a coordinator? A: A piece of equipment which can be used to control/program the performance of an internal and/or external sound source. Q: So a drummachine is a coordinator? A: Yep. And so is a sequencer, a bass machine, a MIDI arpeggiator etc. Q: Do this list apply to MIDI gear only? A: Definitely not. Q: So, how do I get it? A: Attend to rec.music.synth,comp.music or mail me at the address above. Q: How can it get better? A: Write some reviews of your own gear, and send it to me. Q: What format should they be in? A: Please follow the format of the reviews already here :T) Well, that should cover most of it. Please help making this list a valuable piece of information, and a guidance tool for all musicians who are about to buy themselves a coordinator of any kind. I need YOUR review. TODAY! Please note, that I take no responsibility whatsoever concerning the views expressed in the reviews! ( ;) But one can never be sure..) Also, please help keeping the list as accurate as possible. (Ie, flood me with flames & corrections ;-) The entry means that I haven't used the device at all/for too short amount of time, and therefore cannot say anything about that particular item. Please help me out when this is the case! THE REVIEWS (review by Mikael Lundgren) Roland TR-808 Rhythm Composer DESCRIPTION: Analog drum machine (Pattern/Song-based) INTERNAL SOUND SORCE: 16 analog drum sounds (BD, SD, Low,Mid,Hi Tom/Conga, Claves, Rim, Maracas, HC, Cow bell, Cymbal, O/C HH. INPUTS: 2xPEDAL (Start/Stop, Fill-In), 1xDin Sync IN/OUT OUTPUTS: 2xMix, 11xindividual, 3xTrig, Shared Din Sync (see above) SYNC: Din Sync. 2ND DATA STORE: None. (Well, at least the memory is battery-backed...) MEMORY SIZE: 12 patternsx32 steps, 4 fill-in pats, 12 tracksx64 meas. SIZE: 508x305x105 mm, 5 kg (!) SEQUENCER TYPE: Song/Pattern, truly traditional Roland :-) PROGRAMMING: Step. (OK, it has a 'Real' mode as well, but it's hideous..) BUGS: Eh? IMPRESSITUDE: It looks like a toy. It's quite big, black with little orange (!) knobs and multi-colored buttons. But just turn on the power and start it up, and the whole house'll be rockin' ! The bass drum is the origin of hip hop, the cow bell has Whitney Houston (and *lots* of other soul artists) name on it, and the rest of the drum sounds are all over the dance scene today. It's just marvelous. NO: Well, if you don't like step-programming, too bad. And if you, by chance, don't like Din Sync, the necessity to document song patterns on paper, and you just can't stand the sound of electronic percussion, well... YES: Go listen to 'Sexual Healing' or 'Planet Rock' or.... And, there are *knobs* with which you can *edit* sounds in *real time*. You have to sample this unit a zillion times to even come in the vincinity of what it sounds like. Also, the idea of dedicated fill-in patterns which can be automatically trigged every n-th round or manually via a button/pedal is quite neat. Individual outputs is also on the plus side. HINTS: The 'erase' button means other less destructive things when in other modes. Also, the manual fill-in doesn't always fill in in a predictable manner :-) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- (review by Mikael Lundgren) ROLAND TR-707 Digital Drum Machine DESCRIPTION: Digital drum machine. (Pattern/Song based) INTERNAL SOUND SORCE: 15 sampled sounds (12 bits?) including 2xBD, 2xSD, Lo, Med, Hi tom, Rim, Cow bell, Hand clap, Tambourine, O/C Hihat and Crash/Ride cymbals. INPUTS: MIDI, Tape Load/Sync IN, Start/Stop, DIN Sync, 12V AC, M64-C memory cartridge (optional) OUTPUTS: L/R audio, 10 separate audio out, MIDI, Tape Save/Sync OUT, Trig out (+5V 20ms every rim shot), DIN Sync. SYNC: MIDI, Tape Sync, DIN. 2ND DATA STORE: Tape, Cartridge M64-C, MIDI dump. MEMORY SIZE: 4x16 patterns, 4 tracks (998 bars together) SIZE: 380x250x73mm, 1.5 kg. SEQUENCER TYPE: Pattern/Song. PROGRAMMING: Step/Real. All instruments visible at the same time in display, with programmed 1/16s lit. BUGS: ? IMPRESSITUDE: Not much, but the sound is clean and distinctive. Really ugly design. NO: Doesn't transmit DIN sync when driven by MIDI sync. Monophonic sounds, which makes it sound like a drum- machine pretending to sound 'human' if care isn't taken when programming snare fills etc. The 'pads' doesn't invite to any real time programming - use a MIDI keyboard instead. YES: Very useful sounds, and the individual outputs are great value on a machine, that's very cheap on the second hand market. Definitely something to have lying around in the studio. (Doesn't steal voices from your sampler either..) Must be one of the easiest drummachines to program on the market, with its large, clear display and intuitive interface. HINTS: Beware that the SHIFT key is OK if you're buying second hand, because it's *the* most used button on this machine. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- (review by Mikael Lundgren) ROLAND TR-909 Rhythm Composer DESCRIPTION: Pattern/Song-based drum machine. INTERNAL SOUND SORCE: Synthesized (Bass,Snare,L/M/H Tom,Rim Shot) Sampled (Hand Clap,O/C hihat,Cr/Ride Cymbal) INPUTS: MIDI,Tape Load/Sync in (combined),Start/Stop,Din Sync OUTPUTS: 2xMIDI,Tape Save/Sync out,Trig out coupled to rim shot sound +14V 20ms pulse, L/R Mix, 10xmulti out. SYNC: MIDI, Tape, Din. 2ND DATA STORE: Cassette, RAM cartridge (M-64C) MEMORY SIZE: 48 patternsx2 banks, 4 tracks of max 896 measuresx2 banks. SIZE: 486x105x300 mm, 4.5 kg. SEQUENCER TYPE: Pattern based, chain to songs. PROGRAMMING: Step/Real. Step programming a'la Roland with the 16/16 of each measure represented by 16 keys. BUGS: Quite sensitive for power fluctuations, and always 'reboots' in omni mode, with track 0 active. IMPRESSITUDE: HIGH. Desktop style, in a discrete hi-tech grey with lots of buttons and knobs. When playing, the LEDs of the 1/16 / instrument buttons will run continuosly. NO: Always starts up in omni mode, with channel 11 (!) as IN channel. Strange. Also hums a LOT when several LEDs are lit. The tom sounds are very poor. YES: Very easy to work with. VERY cheesy sounds, with the characteristic 'pop' kick, dance snare & techno hihat. Large memory, buttons & knobs of the reliable kind, good MIDI implementation, most sounds can be edited via dedicated knobs. HINTS: Plug it in and you're half way to a techno hit :) Drive the snare through a hi-band enhancer with the 'snappy' knob fully clockwise, program a basic back beat, and dance all night long... --------------------------------------------------------------------------- (review by Mikael Lundgren) ROLAND MC-202 Micro Composer DESCRIPTION: 2-channel sequencer, including a mono synth. INTERNAL SOUND SORCE: 1 oscillator analog synth. Features suboscillator, PWM, VCF with Q, VCA with proper EG (ADSR), LFO, PORTAMENTO etc. INPUTS: CV, Gate, Calibration, Tape Load/Sync, Din Sync, DC in (9V - 12V). OUTPUTS: 2xCV, 2xGate, Tape Save/Sync, 2xDin Sync, Audio, Headphones. SYNC: Din Sync, Tape. 2ND DATA STORE: Cassette. MEMORY SIZE: ~ 2600 notes. SIZE: 343x55x204mm, 1.35 kg. SEQUENCER TYPE: Linear. PROGRAMMING: Step/Real time via external, or built-in "kbd". BUGS: < ? > IMPRESSITUDE: Can't be too high. Looks like it should incorporate a pocket calculator as well. NO: The user interface does look a bit horrendous. YES: < ? > HINTS: < ? > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- (review by Mikael Lundgren) ROLAND MSQ-700 Digital Keyboard Recorder DESCRIPTION: 8-track digital sequencer. INTERNAL SOUND SORCE: Click sound. (Quite audible, thank you) INPUTS: MIDI, Start/Stop, Punch in, DIN Sync, Tape Sync/Load, DCB (see below) OUTPUTS: MIDI, DIN Sync, Tape Sync/Save, DCB (see below) SYNC: MIDI, Tape, DIN. 2ND DATA STORE: Cassette. MEMORY SIZE: ~ 6500 notes. SIZE: 346x328x108mm, 5 kg. Looks like a sawn-off 909. SEQUENCER TYPE: Linear. PROGRAMMING: Real time/Step via remote kbd. BUGS: I have to quote the manual here, as this is one of the most interesting attempts I've seen to explain bugs: "The following may seem strange to you, but there is nothing to worry about it, as it is merely caused by computer processing restriction." ;) :) There is a way to display the memory consumption/ memory left, and it's very interesting. The manual accordingly tells us not to rely on the numbers as a "precise description" but rather as a way to "roughly glasp memory consumption"! The memory used when looking on a specific track starts from 48. (Ie, if it's empty, it shows "0", otherwise it shows "48" until the track exceeds 48 notes, and then it works properly..) This memory display shows two slightly different values whenever you switch from record to play mode, and to add to the cake, the total of track consumption doesn't add up to 6500... Well, details, details.. Otherwise it seems reliable, and never hangs. (?) IMPRESSITUDE: Well, with all the buttons, flashing lights, red and green LEDs, I'd mistake it for the cruise control of the starship Enterprise. It does its job well too. NO: You can't truncate tracks. This means, if you've intended to loop the song, you'd better stop the sequencer at the right bar, or all is lost. The only editing features are "Time Correct" (quantize), erase, and "Merge" (mix). Quite sparse, methinks. Pity you can't dump sequences via MIDI. This was probably still in the beginning, so.... As it's strictly linear, you'll just have to record that repetetive bass pattern all the way thro' the song without no cheatin' copying.. YES: This must be one of the candidates to the title "Musicians' sidekick". You just hit the 'Load' key and record your masterpiece. No frills, no complaints (unless you're running out of memory) and it's always ready whenever you are. The front panel is most informative, and the design is an excellence in functionality. This product was designed for musicians, not computer boffs, it's essentially a MIDI tape recorder. If I want to listen to track 1, 3 and 7, I just hit button 1, 3 and 7, and the appropriate LEDs turn friendly green. No shift buttons, no menu pages. Just plain rock n' roll! HINTS: Go buy a cheap sustain pedal, to control start/stop. Otherwise you'll go nuts about hitting the 'Stop' button at the right time, whilst playing with both hands. Ideal machine for people used to working with multi-track tape recorders. Also comes in handy to convert that MIDI clock to DIN sync (or vice versa). And, BTW, DCB is an early competitor to MIDI. The Juno-60 seems to rely on it, but I've never heard of it before.. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- (review by Mikael Lundgren) ROLAND TB303 BassLine DESCRIPTION: Programmable Bass machine. INTERNAL SOUND SORCE: 1 Oscillator analog synth with primitive VCA. The VCF intensity can be varied by the EG, the Q can be set up to self-oscillation. INPUTS: Sync, 9V DC, Mix (for external sound source) OUTPUTS: CV (1V/oct), Trig, Head+Line. SYNC: Din Sync. 2ND DATA STORE: None. MEMORY SIZE: 64 patterns. Each pattern can be max 16/16ths long. 7 tracks. SIZE: Small and compact. Fits neatly on the button-less side of my masterkeyboard. (Ensoniq Mirage) SEQUENCER TYPE: Pattern based. PROGRAMMING: Step + 'Real'. It's *tricky* to learn how to use it. First, you enter the notes it should play in sequence using the small 'keyboard' on top of it. Then, you enter 'TIME MODE' and start punching in the note values+rests for each note! The only available time step is a 1/16 note. So to enter a 1/8 middle C which should last for 1/4, here is the procedure: a) Go PITCH MODE. Press middle C on keyboard. b) Go TIME MODE. Press 1/16 ON, 1/16 ON, 1/16 OFF, 1/16 OFF ! Oh, and there is the 'Tap' mode as well; When in TIME MODE, by pressing some buttons, you can start the empty (?) pattern *after* programming all tone values first! A metronome sounds, and you can now determine the length+sustain of each programmed note by depressing the TAP button at appropriate times! (sigh) BUGS: Will replace your immaculate newly created bass pattern with random data if you switch from PATTERN WRITE MODE to PATTERN PLAY MODE while running it.... If you don't enter enough timing info (or too much) random data is heard. This is even stated in the manual... IMPRESSITUDE: Low. A small, metal box with a painted-on keyboard doesn't impress too many I'm afraid... NO: I can't possibly see how this was actually marketed for serious use? To use this gadget, you'll need the patience of a 14-year old whiz kid. Don't buy it unless you're willing to spend some couple of days reading the manual. This is the first machine that got me so baffled, I *had* to read the f***:(**g manual! YES: It's fun to use once you get used to the 'interface'. And the on-board synth may be thin, but can that filter sing :) Good for those 1/16 bass lines we hear too little of these days. HINTS: Remove back-up batteries. Wait an hour. Turn it on. Presto: 64 random bass patterns :) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (review by Mikael Lundgren) YAMAHA QX5 Digital Sequence Recorder DESCRIPTION: Digital sequencer. INTERNAL SOUND SORCE: None. (OK, a 'tick' for click...) INPUTS: MIDI in, tape in, foot switch OUTPUTS: MIDI out + thru, tape out, click (audio) SYNC: MIDI, TAPE 2ND DATA STORE: Cassette. Can transfer via MIDI. QX5FD has 3.5" drive. MEMORY SIZE: 128k = ~20,000 notes. (15,000 with velocity) 8 tracks, 32 macros. (A macro is a track, which can be called upon from a track. Geddit?) SIZE: 350x240x49 mm, weighs 2.9 kg (!) SEQUENCER TYPE: Linear. PROGRAMMING: Real/Step via remote keyboard. BUGS: Actually this one hasn't failed me a single time in one year's heavy use. No bugs found...yet? IMPRESSITUDE: Quite low, which is why you want to use something like this on stage. Black, slim design. NO: All editing/recording is performed on track 1. This means a lot of swapping tracks, as track 1 always must contain the track to be edited, or the to-be-recorded track. Relies quite heavily on sub-menus, but they are logically constructed. Memory size may be obstructive. No undo function. YES: Backlit LCD display. Lots of features when editing tracks. Really easy to use. Has most of the features you expect from software-based sequencer, but this has the usual advantage of being 'ready to shoot' whenever you'll turn it on. Can take velocity in step mode also. HINTS: Keep notes on which tracks/macros contains what. Extremely easy to spoil a days work otherwise.. You really want the FD version, unless you have a) patience, or b) a MIDI data drive. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (review by Mikael Lundgren) Yamaha QX1 Digital Sequence Recorder. DESCRIPTION: Digital sequencer. Does everything but making coffee. INTERNAL SOUND SORCE: None. (Well OK, it clicks...) INPUTS: MIDI, Tape Sync, Foot Switch OUTPUTS: 8 MIDI out (!), 1 MIDI thru, click, Tape Sync SYNC: Tape, MIDI 2ND DATA STORE: 512kb 5 1/4" disk drive MEMORY SIZE: 512kb ~ 80.000 notes. SIZE: 519mm x 105mm x 329mm, 7.5 kg. SEQUENCER TYPE: Linear. Strictly following the operations of a multi-track tape deck. Multiple banks with 8 tracks each can be chained together. Very intuitive. All banks, tracks, disks can be given small memo labels from the kbd. PROGRAMMING: Real/Step via remote kbd or from front panel(!) BUGS: None. One of the least crashable sequencers I've come across (not counting the analog ones ;) It's *very* reliable. IMPRESSITUDE: Huge. Large backlit display, LED:s to show track selection, enormous front panel (computer-inspired) NO: Can't send MIDI in to MIDI out. This sucks, as you have to merge the thru jack with the outs' involving an external box. Sometimes saves to disk unnecessary often. It's ok with an automatic backup system, but those extra seconds wait every now and then can be irritating. The size *could* be a problem, but it's still more portable than a computer. Numeric keys used quite often to select different jobs (instead of submenus), but no numeric keypad. This was corrected on the QX3 I believe. 5 1/4" disks are slower (and bigger) than 3 1/2". YES: Easy to work with. Intuitive. Reliable. Steelcase. Professionally built and designed. 8 reroutable MIDI outs! HINTS: Beware! Don't use the tape-transport keys in record mode, as the track can get erased! The manual states this, thankfully. (But it's still a doubtful 'feature') ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (review by Ross Clement) YAMAHA QY10 Sequencer. DESCRIPTION: "Walkstation". Portable MIDI sequencer with inbuilt sounds useful for arranging whole (instrumental) songs inside a single, impressively small, unit. INTERNAL SOUND SOURCE: 28 voice poly sample playback, 8-part multi-timbral including drums. Primitive mixing and almost no panning of sounds. INPUTS: MIDI in, ~9V DC(?) OUTPUTS: MIDI out, stereo line out, stereo phones out. (minijack sockets) SYNC: MIDI (though I haven't made it sync to my MC300 yet). 2ND DATA STORE: MIDI bulk dump (several types). MEMORY SIZE: 76 ROM/24 RAM patterns (including drums, bass, and two chordal parts). 8 songs. If you try to fill all this up with complex data you will run out of global data before you fill up the patterns and songs. SIZE: As is well known, size of one VHS video cassette. SEQUENCER TYPE: Pattern based/Normal sequencer track combination. PROGRAMMING: Step + 'Real' can be used when programming both patterns and non-pattern song tracks. Patterns can be transposed to a reasonably wide range of chord types in real time, a'la home keyboards. Unfortunately it can't respond to chord patterns played on a MIDI keyboard, you must use rubber buttons to change chord roots and types. Once you have designed a few patterns with the sequencer, you can change to song mode and make a song by entering pattern numbers and chord changes into four backing tracks. Four instrument tracks can be used to record normal sequencer tracks. Or, you could just choose preset patterns. Or, you could have up to four tracks of music (including drums) without using any of the pattern tracks. BUGS: If you record more than one bar of the last chord in your chord track, it will only play one bar and then the song finishes. Don't know for sure if this is a bug, but it seems a bit strange. IMPRESSITUDE: Very high for such a small cheap box. When you arrive at your friends house after a long bus/etc trip, plug it into their stereo and play the music you composed on the trip it can knock them out. NO: Limited panning (hard left, centre, and hard right), no effects. Sounds are very good considering the obvious memory limitations, but aren't professional quality on the whole. Not bad though. Rubber monophonic nothing-sensitive keyboard is the worst musical input device I have ever used. You can use an external MIDI keyboard, which gives instant vast improvement in usuability. YES: A lot of fun. You can very quickly build grooves to jam to, or whole backings to songs in cliched styles. Used with external sound modules, the possibilities become infinitely greater. Good value for money. Can run on 6 1.5v batteries for a useful length of time (four or six hours, not sure) so you can plug in phones and use it anywhere. HINTS: Try forgetting that the original design/patterns were meant to be drums/bass/chords/etc. E.g. by using an external sound module, and assigning a simple waveform to each track on the QY, you can make 1,2,3, etc bar evolving wavestation style sounds. -- () Mikael (Vick) Lundgren | University of Uppsala, Sweden O ____ () () vick@bern.docs.uu. {-|>*CSD - Computer Science Dept. o /.. \/| () () Studying CS @ ---------|>*DOCS - Dept. of Computer Systems (----) | )) () () Remember: Four bananas always add up to a plectrum. \____/\| () [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1993 19:13:52 -0500 (EST) From: Alan Michael Parry Subject: YIKES! can someone pleeeze send me the details for WHY....thanks. --FLuid [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1993 21:04:05 -0500 From: ncp@csmvax.simmons.edu (Neith Preston) Subject: SNOW!!! If it is snowing tomorrow...bad....I won't make it to NYC til Sat :( Sunny Weather!!!!Please! Love and Frogs!!! Neith Any one who is under similar predicaments ought to post so that we won't be misled by H.O.M.... [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Thu, 4 Mar 93 19:19:36 -0800 From: reillye@Cyanamid.COM (Eileen Reilly) Subject: nyc hookup/ why dj's Unfortunately, I was unable to get any more info on DJ's for WHY on Friday.. They weren't talking.... eileen (reillye@cyanamid.com) what?? did someone say osheen?? :) [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Subject: Re: MEGARave '93 or Back to the Future From: inhuman@mindvox.phantom.com (Inhuman) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 93 23:12:05 EST It's funny, the MegaRave hotline is the Bedrock productions hotline (Flintstone raves). Press * and it says "Hello, Bedrock Productions, enter your password." I didn't know Bedrock and Future were related. Michael | "I've begun to wonder if we wouldn't (inhuman@mindvox.phantom.com) | also regard spelunkers as desperate | criminals if AT&T owned all the ...trance form...trance send... | caves." --John Perry Barlow [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1993 00:04:57 -0500 (EST) From: Alan Michael Parry Subject: HOOKUP-O-MATIC ========================================================================== HOOKUP-O-MATIC FOR 3/5 3/6 ========================================================================== Okay boys and girls, here is the HOM for this weekend. I was thinking about doing the ne-raves & dc-raves ones seperately but it just seems unnecessary as most people subscribe to both. The easiest solution is just to send it to both lists so thats what i'll do unless anyone objects. Theres lots to do this weekend. Have fun and be good. =) - Fluid ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Friday, March 5th WHY New Brunswick, NJ. INFO# (908) 287 8795 DJ's| Spike (Planet X), Larry (??), + others. Laura (laura@usl.com) Neith Preston (ncp@csmvax.simmons.edu) Eileen Reilly (reillye@Cyanamid.com) Mars (mvh0@lehigh.edu) Will-E (perez@Andromeda.rutgers.edu) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Saturday, March 6th KRUSTY'S SPLATHOUSE Charlottesville, VA. INFO# (804) 977 3291 DJ's| Todd Krulak (Catastrophic), Dave Javate (MusicNow), Decay (Cyber/FRG), + others to be announced. Derek Tiffany (tiffanyde@urvax.urich.edu) *blue bookbag w/ pro-choice button *-(Derek has space for 3 ravers from DC to Krustys) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, March 6th ANDROMEDA Washington DC INFO# (202) 298 9000 DJ's| OPM (Ultraworld), Deadly Buda (Pittsburg), Jean Phillipe (LA), James Christian (Limelight), Josh Wink (Philly), Dante (Evolution), Neuromancer (Germany), Bobble (AtomicVibe). + LIVE and exclusive performance by GLITCH of Industrial Strength Doug Zimmerman (DZ5401A@American.edu) *- (Doug needs a ride to Andromeda from DC. Has space available for people to crash. Call (202) 885 7092. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, March 6th TINMEN'S REVENGE Philadelphia INFO# (215) 236 3713 DJ's| Oddessy (Vagabond), Remic (Zodiac), Xandu (Vagabond), Katz (RaveOn), Megatron (Telekinetic). Mars (mvh0@lehigh.edu) Fluid (brit@ravel.udel.edu) (not 100% sure about this..) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- EXTRA'S!!!! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- -Laura is offering her place (Hoboken,NJ) Friday night for a pre-WHY gathering. There wont be turntable etc. there so bring some mix tapes and snacks to share with the cybertribe. If you planning on dropping by, you can contact Laura at..home (201) 217 9192 work (908) 522 6396 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- whew!! thats all folks. =) --Fluid [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: kzimmerman@eagle.wesleyan.edu Date: Thu, 4 Mar 93 19:32:24 -0800 Subject: FUCK WASTED BANDWIDTH aaaaa! knoccked off vravee for the third time in ten minnits must be all this snow. BTW everyone complains about wasted bandwidth WHAT THE FUCK IS BANDWIDTH? i dunnnoo... and just so Joe Lesesne doesn't gget on my case, heeeeres relevant info: i wuz talking to my boy JC while the fumes of toxic floor varnish filled my house and anyway he told me that Roland made a 969 and an 868... which are the latin versions of the 808 and 909. they have latin drum sounds! I WANT SOMEONE TO MAKED SOME ACID MAMBO!!! :) :) i wonder what a 363 would sound like SPICE. hey keeps this in mind: Laconic Seizures produce Intolerable Ringworm PEACCCECECECEECECEC LOVEEEEEEIIIIIISSSMMMMM IMM BACCCCCCKCKKCKCKCKC i want to RAVE i wnat some 180000000 BPM BREAKBEAT PLEEEEEEEZZZ mr sparklE soundz off!!! (im cool like dat) thee rauingglvnatick/paranoidsckitzophrenick >>sparklE.808 d e a t h n i h i l i s m m a i m r e a p t h e g a i n s o f i m p e r i a l i s m u s :::::))))) [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: Mike J. Brown Subject: Re: FUCK WASTED BANDWIDTH Date: Fri, 5 Mar 93 8:05:29 EST > BTW everyone complains about wasted bandwidth > WHAT THE FUCK IS BANDWIDTH? > i dunnnoo... time and money. email to one person is 1/200th the bandwidth of email to 200 people (i.e. ne-raves). it's free to you and me, but it costs the National Science Foundation and every college/university receiving the mail a nice chunk of change. > I WANT SOMEONE TO MAKED SOME ACID MAMBO!!! :) :) David Byrne "Make Believe Mambo" (p)(c)1989 Luaka Bop/Sire Records PRO-A-3800 (promo) 1. Make Believe Mambo (12" remix) 6:17 2. Make Believe Mambo (Video edit) 4:00 3. Make Believe Mambo (Acid Mambo) 4:56 <---- 4. Make Believe Mambo (remix/edit) 5:15 It's not as good as it sounds, believe me. > >>sparklE.808 Mike Brown _ _ __ ______________________________________Approach and Identify [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1993 10:03:00 -0500 (EST) From: Joe LeSesne Subject: pressing plants Hey, I'm getting a 12" pressed and I am shopping around for the best price I can get. Can you send me the phone #'s of any pressing plant you know of that will press 12"s. Please send the information to me directly and not to the list so as we don't waste bandwidth. (Unless more people are interested in this subject.) Thanks. Joe (187- Mobile Live Techno Vibes) [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1993 12:54:06 -0500 From: mIkE rObErTs Subject: Re: MEGARave '93 or Back to the Future > I didn't know Bedrock and Future were > related. Yea, both are run by Michael Meachum and Sean McLlavain (sp?). The Future should be on a greater scale then the past Flintstones. Major promotions are beginning to take place. Also, someone made a comment about the number a DJ's etc. They may be doing a two day type of deal. also, weather permitting, they are thinking of doing an indoor/outdoor set-up. This will allow for multiple djs playing at the same time. Mike TekGuru proton@wam.umd.edu [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Fri, 5 Mar 93 14:03:53 EST From: Thomas C Yes Subject: mailing list i would lke [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Fri, 5 Mar 93 14:05:52 EST From: Thomas C Yes Subject: mailing list i would like to subscribe to ne-raves... please send to tnoe@stern.nyu.edu thanks. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 5 Mar 93 15:03:00 EST From: "John Speakman" Subject: Re: mailing list >From: Thomas C Yes Good name! >i would lke Yeah. me too.... John [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Fri, 05 Mar 93 15:24:42 EST From: "Douglas B. Zimmerman" Subject: ANDROMEA Hey everyone! I have heard a few things about ANDROMEDA along with got a few questions: I was talking to someoneand he said that ANDROMEDA will only be going on till 4AM in the morning. After that there will be an afterhours party at Carefree, the new Catastrophic club that will be opening in D.C. He said he thinks it will be free for all those ticket holders who are at the Tonka event but i dont think he was sure. Also i was wondering if any of you knew where this W.U.S.T. hall place is in D.C. (Street Address?) cause probably going to try and take the transit that's mass to the venue. Well later everyone! Hope Krusty's is cool! doug ))))) a b00mingg baSS for a l0ving race ((((( dz5401a@american.edu [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Fri, 5 Mar 93 16:35:59 -0500 From: camper@buphy.bu.edu (Dan English) Subject: i am going to ARUBA well, whilst you all are freezy breezy in stormy weather, i'll be peachy beachy in lovely aruba. i leave tomorrow at 6am, so i figure there is no reason not to go out tonite. don't send to much mail, and you wont get bounced messages from my account. i'll think of you all every day. yeah fuckin right. love, -camper. * stay groovy. camper english it ain't easy, being cheesey @buphy.bu.edu [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 5 Mar 93 15:03:00 EST From: "John Speakman" Subject: Re: mailing list >From: Thomas C Yes Good name! >i would lke Yeah. me too.... John [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Subject: Re: i am going to ARUBA Date: Fri, 05 Mar 93 16:48:03 -0500 From: kanarick@media.mit.edu In message <9303052135.AA14197@buphy.bu.edu> you write: > > well, whilst you all are freezy breezy in stormy weather, > i'll be peachy beachy in lovely aruba. > i leave tomorrow at 6am, so i figure there is no reason not to go out > tonite. > don't send to much mail, and you wont get bounced messages from my account. > ummmmm. you suck. :-) I'll be at RISE tonight, complete with a Hi-8 Steady-Cam video camera, and I'll probably be there really early (like 11:55 :-) so look for me and my ne-raves tag, big black glasses, and small Haman-inspired goatee... -- cmk P.S. What color is your hair these days, camper? :-) [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: Jesse Brook McCune Subject: Re: mailing list Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1993 17:04:32 -0500 (EST) > From: "John Speakman" Good name! :) had to do it...later Live on...love on...rave on... -Sunshine ============================================================================== | I am Sunshine... || I am the boy who makes her heart || Jesse B McCune | | @ @ || feel happy, and shines like the sun! || WPI Box 609 | | \_/ ||======================================|| Worcester, MA | | on a cloudy day! || mccune@wpi.wpi.edu PH#:(508)791-3345 || 01609 | ============================================================================== I NEEEEEEEEEEED your lovin'... [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Fri, 5 Mar 93 20:36:22 -0500 From: jna@silver.lcs.mit.edu (photographic material) Subject: Re: pressing plants When you get it pressed, could you pass along the info? Discmakers is just too expensive. -jna [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1993 23:28:46 -0500 (EST) From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: pressing plants On Fri, 5 Mar 1993, photographic material wrote: > When you get it pressed, could you pass along the info? > > Discmakers is just too expensive. > > -jna Sure, I think I'll post it up to this list since I think it is of general interest to all. What I'll do is compile it by prices and quantites. At the bottom I'll put any special notes such as (price includes typesetting), etc. Any objections? Joe (187- Mobile Live Techno Vibes) [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 6-MAR-1993 15:39:45.54 From: Tasha van Es Subject: DC! Received: from EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU by EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU (PMDF #12650) id <01GVHRFZPAE88Y65P7@EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU>; Sat, 6 Mar 1993 15:38 EST Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1993 15:38 EST From: PMDF Mail Server Subject: Undeliverable mail: SMTP delivery failure To: postmaster@EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU, TVANES@EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU Message-id: <01GVHRFZPAE88Y65P7@EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU> The message could not be delivered to: Addressee: nre-raves@silver.lcs.mit.edu Reason: ... User unknown ---------------------------------------- Received: from EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU by EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU (PMDF #12650) id <01GVHRFQLCU88Y65KP@EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU>; Sat, 6 Mar 1993 15:38 EST Date: 6-MAR-1993 15:35:19.27 From: Tasha van Es Subject: anything going on in DC this week? To: nre-raves@silver.lcs.mit.edu Message-id: <01GVHRFQLCU88Y65KP@EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU> Organization: Second Society on Mayhem Hey DC people - I'll be in DC for the week, any clubs particularly noteworthy, or raves going on? I'm leaving tomorrow, 3/7 and will be there til 3/13. Peace_unity_happiness *kick up the volume play it loud* tasha tvanes@eagle.wesleyan.edu ================================================================================ A loaf of bread, a quart of milk, and a stick of butter... a loaf of bread, a quart of milk, and a stick of butter... [Seasame Street] ================================================================================ ================================================================================ A loaf of bread, a quart of milk, and a stick of butter... a loaf of bread, a quart of milk, and a stick of butter... [Seasame Street] ================================================================================ [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: kawakami@noc.usfca.edu (SIN) Subject: HELP! Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1993 20:38:40 -0800 (PST) help!!! I need a ride to i mag rave tonite....ahhhh call me at 415 386 3050 cuz i need to rave please...help a sortof out of towner...partyon...susie (: ps i am in sf...i had a nice trip...no pun inteneded.... . [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Sun, 7 Mar 93 11:33:28 -0800 From: Micah Anderson Subject: Washington (state) raves? Hi, I dont subscribe here and I don't read anything here, so please send any responses to me personally instead of the list! Thanks! Essentially I am looking for a NW raves list (that would include Washington state) or any contacts over here that would have rave info (local).... Thanks! Micah [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Subject: bro From: revar@mindvox.phantom.com (chuck fletcher) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 93 15:09:34 EST so i went to the orbless orb party, at first i was not excited to be there, lots of club people and homeboys. The lights seemed better than usual and the sound was good, but nothing spectacular. Average(good) sets from On-e, onions, and frankie(just let me say one thing)bones.(he did have a tempertanturm and walked off stage at one point, i don't know how much more of frankie i can take, i almost wish he was a lousy dj so he would go a way. about 3:30 things go crazy, DJ louis from the orb spun the most amazing music i have ever heard in my life. It had everything, hardcore steady bass, breakbeats and acid and trance sounds on top. and it just kept going and going, i've never had music make me feel so fucked up(under minimal influences). And then the lights....wow they are called star beams and the had abour 10 of them on stage. intellabeams with patterns and a wider range of colors. i was dissapointed with the pushbutton auto functions for about an hour and then the operator wnt manual and did some really nice stuff. these lights produced floating stars that spun in the air, wow. A little later the dj change and after that even good house music sounded thrown together. oh i forgot abour the nude dancer during dj louis who was doing really cool stuff, like moving in slomo for 15 min at a time, the nudity wasnt even noticed after a few minutes. Later the ritz turned on there inhouse video wall witch had these consolidated type strobing images of bush and violence. They really blew my mood, don't they understand that ravers don't want to see that? Over all a good production for a club rave, and for about an hour and a half i reached a new plane of bliss with DJ louis. This kind of music could make me quit my job and start preaching on the streets. Yes my children the lord is in these notes....listen can you heard it?...I heal you!!!!!!!!!! ;) chuck revar [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1993 23:45:45 -0500 From: "a kid and his computer" Subject: FTP address... Hi, I was wondering if anyone would Email me the address of the FTP site where the "ne-raves" folder is. I used to know, but I seem to have forgotten, or else its gone? Please Email the address to me. Thanx Chris ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ cmellow@well.sf.ca.us "From now on all my writings are fish-hooks...If nothing got caught I am not to blame. There were no fish..." -Friedrich Nietzsche ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: dionf@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Francois Dion) Subject: Boston places... Date: Mon, 8 Mar 93 0:18:13 EST I'll be down in Boston wednesday and thursday and would like to know if people know of places to find smartdrink mixes. For records, Jay (thanks!) gave me some places like on newbury so it should be enough. Also, i should be at Manray on wednesday and Venus de Milo on thursday. Check for a red CD with white stripes if you are there and come and say hello! Ciao, -- Francois Dion ' _ _ _ CISM (_) (_) _) FM Montreal , Canada Email: CISM@ERE.UMontreal.CA (_) / . _) 10000 Watts Telephone no: (514) 343-7511 _______________________________________________________________________________ Audio-C-DJ-Fractals-Future-Label-Multimedia-Music-Radio-Rave-Video-VR-Volvo-... [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Subject: Rephlex (art2cd) From: Rob H Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1993 19:30:33 -0500 Well, I just received the Rephlex compilation CD ( "The Philosophy of Sound and Machine" ) and here's my initial impressions after giving it a quick listen. On the bottom of the cover of the CD it says "A collection of Electronic Music... for Dance and Thought" but I tend to think it's more for the latter than the former. The only album I can think of which is similar is the Artificial Intelligence album put out by Warp. Most of the tracks, however, seem a bit more avant-garde than on A.I. I'd say that if you're looking for dance music, you should look elsewhere. However, if you enjoyed A.I. and the Aphex Twin's Selected Ambient Works, you'll probably find it pretty interesting. (Of course this isn't really a complete review as I've only listened to it once) For those interested, here's a track listing : Artist Track Time Future/Past Nebula Variation 5:50 Q-Chastic CAT 002 3:58 Soit-P.P n.IASP 5:03 Red Cell Bio-Dimension 5:54 NeuroPolitique Artemis 5:54 Kosmik Kommando Remember the 6:25 Feeling C Metric Debris 8:40 Balil The Whirling of 5:52 Spirits Esoterik Pursuit 5:08 Future/Past T.R.Y. 2004 Funk 5:20 Twelve Days of Night Trance 6:08 Balil Small Energies 6:08 Blue Calx Blue Calx 7:15 Hmm... After reading my comments above, I've realized that it doesn't sound all that positive, which I didn't intend. I like this album -- I think it's a bit more diverse and experimental than the A.I. album and on the whole it's pretty good... Later Rob rhwang@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (Oh, incidentally for those who are Aphex Twin fans, there's at least one track by him on the album (Blue Calx). I think Q-Chastic is R. James as well) [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Mon, 8 Mar 93 12:26 EST From: laura@usl.com Subject: WHY ask why? Just do or die. It was do or die for the Digital Deviants last Friday. Their previous three events had been busted, including having their sound truck impounded by the Edison, New Jersey, Police. But the Planet X based crew went "legal" and ended up putting on a good party with no problems. The location was the basement disco/club of some ex-Days Inn Hotel in New Brunswick. It reminded me of someone's 1970's Brady Bunch-style rec room, with wood paneling and all. The lighting was minimal, the sound system was huge and, except for a high end speaker that kept cutting in and out, fine. There was also a smaller carpeted room that looked like a meeting room. Some DJs were spinning house/hip hop in there. We (Ed, Will-E, Eileen, me) got there right about when it started. The first DJ was ABYSMAL. No, that wasn't his name . . . he sounded like he stopped buying records last August. It was nice to hear a few now-classic tunes like the album mix of "Go," but an entire set of this was boring because there were only a few (like three) real classics in it. After about an hour of this hell things suddenly improved. Someone started spinning some really acidy stuff. This lasted about half an hour, and then Spike came on with your basic happy progressive house type stuff. Spike is an excellent DJ, but we were in the mood for HARDCORE, so Will-E and I made a sign that said "Hi Spike. PLEASE play us some hardcore. Love, Will-E and Laura" and stuck it on the window of the booth while he was digging through his crate. He stood up, saw it, and laughed and said "later." "Later" came at about 1am, when yadd (yet another Digital Deviant, maybe Larry [Days-X-One], maybe Freshco, I don't have them all straight yet) came on to the slammin' sounds of a 909 kick drum from hell. Eileen perked up visibly, and the two of us joined her roommate for some intense arm-shaking, head-snapping, slamming Storm-Rave-Style-Brooklyn-Belgian-German HARDCORE. We got an hour and a half of intensity, and it was good. I ran into Eileen's roommate in the bathroom later and she said, very calmly, "There went three months of accumulated tension. The only things that can get it out of me are thrash metal and hardcore techno." Hardcore -- a key to a healthier way of life. The music dipped back down through acid trance to pretty melodic trance, but we were feeling pretty beat. The only thing REALLY wrong with the rave was that there were no smart drinks. We needed something to re-energize, and were sorely disappointed. I usually bring my own, but forgot this evening. I won't be forgetting again! Around 3.30 we were preparing to leave when on came "Age of Love," so of course we danced to that and the next few songs and then we headed out. Space Ace was playing at the time, putting on some rather pleasantly mind-bending trance that was on the ambient side, but I was starting to cough and we were all tired and really didn't see the point in forcing ourselves to stay around and not be 100%. I had a good time and was glad I went. The vibe was really interesting . . . lots of neo-ravers and clubby types until about 1.45, then the clubbies left and the people still around were pleasant and groovy. A number of neo-ravers stayed, and so are "neo" no more. It was great to know that these newcomers liked it and were getting something good out of it! There was this one guy running around chanting things like "move your body" and the like, but not in an annoying way. It was cool, an enhancement to the evening. He'd dance up to someone, hang with them for a while, and then dance off to spread his energy elsewhere. Neat. So that was it. WHY goes down as my second best rave of 1993 thus far, behind the great FLUID. I liked WHY's location (just the right size, not too bright or posh yet not a Staten Island barn either), vibe (everyone in New Brunswick knows everyone else, and were friendly about introducing themselves and talking even though I only knew the people I came with), and I got a much-needed dose of hardcore through LOUD BASS-BOOMING speakers. Laura [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Mon, 8 Mar 93 17:30 GMT From: Eric McCormick <0004775674@mcimail.com> Subject: Rave-O-Matic Info Hi, group.. I'm currently not subscribed to the list because I'm in and out of town so much this month, but I was wondering if someone could forward to me the latest Rave-O-Matic? I'd like to know what's going on this coming weekend. Thanks!! _________________________________________________________________________ /^ ^\ (=============================================================================) | Eric McCormick /~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\ 0004775674@MCIMail.com | | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~/~Improving Life through Perfect Code~\~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | (=============================================================================) [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: dionf@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Francois Dion) Subject: Shazz? Date: Mon, 8 Mar 93 13:18:06 EST Anybody knows Shazz? They make a song called the earless man song. It's on FNAC, a french label from what i understand. It clocks in at 145.5 bpm but has a trancy feel and is not frantic at all (but then Boing doesn't seem very fast anymore compared to Hard attack by Beltram- Rotterdam #19 which is over 160 at first sight - i have not counted). Ciao, -- Francois Dion ' _ _ _ CISM (_) (_) _) FM Montreal , Canada Email: CISM@ERE.UMontreal.CA (_) / . _) 10000 Watts Telephone no: (514) 343-7511 _______________________________________________________________________________ Audio-C-DJ-Fractals-Future-Label-Multimedia-Music-Radio-Rave-Video-VR-Volvo-... [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: ebh@mink.mt.att.com (Ed Horch) Subject: WHY report Date: Mon, 8 Mar 93 13:45:32 EST I am always wary about Digital Deviants events. I know most of these guys personally, and their collective attitude toward the underground is not to stay away from the police, it's to walk up to them, flip them the bird, urinate on their shoes, and then wonder why they get upset. Scratch your average Digital Deviant, and underneath you're more than likely to find a small-time gang-banger. This probably explains why up until now, all of their events but one have been busted, and why those busts have a high proportion of equipment seizures. Spike must be getting tired of this. He, more than the rest, has a vested interest in keeping his young proboscis out of the dirt, as it might be, lest his business be subject to the customary harsh treat- ment by the police. This may explain why he chose to a) hold an event in a club, which is if nothing else, nearly bust-proof, and b) set up nearly everything himself, to whom he is not likely to be named an accessory to crimes of which he had no knowledge. In any case, it was about time for something like this in New Bruns- wick. Retaining at least a few of the icons of the underground, such as a low admission price, a very basic flyer, low-tech lighting and no 15-demigod DJ list, this event actually had the same sort of feel to it that the better Storm raves did. The first half-hour was a real blast-from-the-past set of old techno ("Go", etc.), as is currently spun in the New Brunswick clubs, making us wonder of the DJ had run out of record money sometime last summer. The next hour or so was mostly non-progressive house, making us wonder whether the true nature of the staff wasn't about to win out alto- gether, relegating techno to the dustbin of white suburbia. But, once the Franklin Room (did I mention the club was in a hotel, all of which have to have Franklin Rooms?) was opened, the house and hip-hop had their home for the evening, and back in the main room, not named after any president, we finally got what we came for. I had forgotten what a good Storm-style (but micless) hardcore set felt like. Not only was it wonderful to have my memory refreshed like that, it was also great to see why it holds such a special place in me. I was initiated into raving by hardcore at Storm, and there were many rave initiates this night getting the same. That look of wonder in someone's eyes when they first experience this new level of "dance music" is inescapable. But I had also forgotten what two hours of hardcore without smart drinks was like. The bar was doing a brisk business with people for whom "Storm-like hardcore" has no meaning, and for whom the Franklin Room held no interest either. Unfortunately, for those of us who prefer our beverages ethanol-free, the lack of a smart bar was especially glaring. Water replenishes, sugar can fuel, but neither can really give the sort of long-term raving capacity that takes you past sunrise. By 3:00, right about the time that the club kids were obeying their traditional curfew, I was just plain used up. My last ounce of energy was depleted during a well-timed playing of "Age of Love" and "Transform". Having gotten full on a main course of hardcore, I probably missed out on a wonderful trance dessert as we left for the blissfully short drive home. I know I missed out on whatever they had set up for after-hours, a necessity when the event itself was only to run until 4:00 or 5:00. I'd appreciate hearing from anyone who stayed through the end. Summary: +1 on the -4 to +4 scale once the hardcore started. Before that, it was just another club. They lost points for the lack of a smart bar and the slow start. They gained points for the low price and the simple, back-to-basics feel (in stark contrast to the latter- day-Storm hahdkoah=suffering idiocy). I don't know if the Digital Deviants will ever get their act together enough to establish a "scene" around central Jersey, but I think *someone* will. -Ed SLiP "into something more comfortable" [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 08 Mar 1993 12:37:28 -0400 (EDT) From: DJESRANI%COLGATEU.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu Subject: Re: Rephlex (art2cd) Blue Calx is R. James, as well as Soit-P.P., Q-Chastic, and I believe, Neuro-Politique. <- could be wrong about that one.. Out of curiousity, do the Soit P.P., Q-Chastic, or Blue Calx tracks sound anything like the material on either Surfing on Sine Waves or Selected Ambient Works? Darshan djesrani@center.colgate.edu ..all spaced out and nowhere to go.. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 08 Mar 1993 15:14:25 -0400 (EDT) From: an excursion through technospace Subject: badges ne-raves badge info coming soon to this channel >>t.808 [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: arthurc@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Arthur Chandler) Subject: Subscribe Date: Mon, 8 Mar 93 16:24:21 PST SUB NERAVES Arthur Chandler [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Subject: Re: Rephlex (art2cd) From: Rob H Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1993 20:39:34 -0500 > Out of curiousity, do the Soit P.P., Q-Chastic, or Blue Calx tracks sound > anything like the material on either Surfing on Sine Waves or Selected > Ambient Works? I only have the Selected Ambient Works, but in a word -- yes. There seems to be a distinct Aphex Twin style... Blue Calx in particular sounds quite similar to one of tracks on the ambient works album (don't remember which).. > Darshan > djesrani@center.colgate.edu > ..all spaced out and nowhere to go.. Rob rhwang@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 08 Mar 1993 21:42:01 -0400 (EDT) From: an excursion through technospace Subject: the prodigy's gear i saw an article today on the prodigy in some engligh music magazine.. and it focused on all of their synths... just thought it was interesting and fun to read.. :: akai S1100 roland W-30 roland TB-303 roland TR-909 roland SH-101 roland juno-106 roland juno-2 minimoog neato and geeky.. fun for all! peace to this quiet list.. >>taylor.808 [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Subject: Full Moon Rave From: inhuman@mindvox.phantom.com (Inhuman) Date: Tue, 09 Mar 93 01:09:24 EST Wel, this is Inhuman reporting live from Santa Cruz. I just had my first west coast rave experience last night / this morning. Wow... I went with a friend to Bonnie Doon beach, where the FMR was supposed to be held and found a bunch of raverssitting around waiting for the rave to start (this was at about 1am). Several fires were started and we all sat around listening to someone's mix tape. Around two-thirty the sound truck finally showed up. It was really cool, with everyone helping to carry the speakers and stuff down into this little cove from up atop these sandy cliffs. After some difficulties, Garth finally got started around four. Everyone was so ready for it to start that the crowd just exploded in dance energy. Garth's set was pretty damn good. A very strong hip-hop influence. I heard many Public Enemy samples and a lot of hip-hop style record scratching. It really got me moving. Garth was followed by Jeno, who spun a cool set, but nothing terribly incredible. The coolest part was the sunrise. It was cloudy, so there was no spactacular sunrise or anything, but just seeing this beautiful cove with the waves crashing against the rocks, people up on the cliffs setting up tents, and trancey-tribal music resonating everywhere.... WOW. I ran into Susie, fellow dc-raver and she introduced me to a lot of sfravers, s o that was fun. Overall a very cool experience... So different from the east coast. See all you sfravers at Connection II! Sorry for tantalizing all you ne-ravers by cross-posting, but I thought you might be interested... :-) Michael | "I've begun to wonder if we wouldn't (inhuman@mindvox.phantom.com) | also regard spelunkers as desperate | criminals if AT&T owned all the ...trance form...trance send... | caves." --John Perry Barlow [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 9 Mar 93 02:35:03 -0500 From: jna@silver.lcs.mit.edu (and we kissed as the sky fee) Subject: Hate to send this to the entire list, but: Doug Zimmerman! You're not FTPing Copies of the Rave-o-matic to the media.mit.edu ftp site, directory /pub/ne-raves/incoming... Or at least I haven't seen them there.. anyone else looking for them and not seen them on the site? The last rave-o-matic off the FTP site is from AUGUST. ----john [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1993 05:16:53 -0800 From: Robert Campanell Subject: Krusty's Doug Zimmerman and my housemate Tod loaded into my rented Olds Cutlass Supreme and headed south for Charlottesville, VA to Krusty's Splathouse for their first major rave. Duncan mentioned that the space was in the old Montecello Dairy. I could not figure out why the name splathouse was used, but when I got there I figured it out. The space is used to play survial war games using paint gun pellets. The walls were "splattered" with paint pellets, some of which were still wet. This rave exceeded my expectations. I thought it would be a small rave, about 200-500 people. There were 900-1100 people there, and it was a full blown rave complete with visual, lots of lights, and chill out rooms! I thought the music was perfect, especially since this was the first rave for most of the patrons. All the recent popular techno songs with nothing too hard or too commercial. Most of the crowd was curiousity seekers, and they seemed to enjoy themselves. I thought there would be more beer cans and bottles, but there was not. If fact there's more of that at DC and Baltimore than at Krustys. I did overhear comments like "This is wild!" and "I can't believe this is happening in Charlottesville!" Several people came up to me and asked me if I had any "dose." Doug and Tod also said the same thing happened to them. Since the frats got busted dealing "dose" at UVa last year, I guess it's pretty hard to find, or maybe everybody watched the 48 Hours show about raves and believed that you need "dose" to rave. I really liked have VRave set up at Krustys. I got to chat with Susie, Neith, Mike of NeRaves, and Troy and Tamara of SoCal raves. Thanks to Paul for setting it up. Great idea. The audio worked on my video camera this time. All my interviews came out well. The one problem I had was that my lens would get fogged up quickly. I was always have to wipe off the lens, and the viewfinder every 15 seconds. But anyway I got some great video for "Flux." I was good meeting more NeRavers and DCRavers. Met John and his crew from NC DeReK from Richmond, XtoFer, Lucid, Paul, Laura from Charlottesville, and Scott from Germantown MD. Krusty's ended at 4 am. We headed back to DC to the Andromeda afters hours for Dante's set. Eric McCormick said Dante was spinning since he got there which was about 2 hours after we arrived. Three and a half hours of DANTE. Bobble and Tom T followed Dante, and they were good, but it's hard to get noticed after Dante plays. FINAL NOTE: Krusty's was a first class rave. Duncan did a fantastic job. It was equivalent to the DC, Baltimore, and NYC raves that I've attended. We talked about putting on a rave three months ago. Duncan went out and did it, and did it right! All NeRavers should make a special effort to come and support Duncan for his next rave. You won't regret it. - Rob [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: "Golden Boy" Date: Tue, 9 Mar 93 09:17:48 CST Subject: zzzzzzzzzz fucking lull.lull.lull.lull.lull...iz everyone deeply engrossed in finalz before break or what... +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ <> deb9@pop.cwru.edu "The unexamined life is not worth living" - Plato [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 9 Mar 93 09:30:53 -0500 From: Duncan Charles Haberly Subject: Re: Krusty's To Rob and all other Netters, Thanks sooo much folks!!! You guys really made the event. Hardware is nice, but nothing beats having smiling, happy ravers walking around, sharing their vibe with all! I am already working on next event - hoping to slowly bring in more and more folks into techno addiction so that we can start spinning more and more obscure tachno forms here in C'ville. I only wish I could have spent time with all who came! Unfortunately an event like Krusty's requires constant supervision and adjustment. I finally slept 8 hours last night - Whoohooo - as Homer would say. Doug, John, Paul, et al. - THANKS!!!!!!!! Beat, Duncan [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 9 Mar 93 08:55:46 -0800 From: ccat@netcom.com (Chris) Subject: When you see Dante... When you ne-raver's see Dante, remember he's a potential ne-raver.. Go up to him,let him know youre on the list.. and offer some encouragement.. He has the hardware now..he just needs that final push... -Chris. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: "Golden Boy" Date: Tue, 9 Mar 93 09:17:48 CST Subject: zzzzzzzzzz fucking lull.lull.lull.lull.lull...iz everyone deeply engrossed in finalz before break or what... +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ <> deb9@pop.cwru.edu "The unexamined life is not worth living" - Plato [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 9 Mar 93 12:58:25 EST From: Thomas C Noe Subject: Subscription please add my address to the subsrciption list. I need Rave stories for my thesis paper, so send them to me! tnoe@sales.nyu.edu TOM [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 09 Mar 1993 13:07:00 -0400 (EDT) From: an excursion through technospace Subject: ne-raves picnic hello everyone.. i was in central park (NYC) the other day and feeling quite blown away by its beauty and peacefulness.. i was sitting on a bench.. smiling and feeling really happy.. then i thought of how great it would be to get YOU .. ne-ravers down here to have a picnic in central park... it could be the re-birth of the failed trip to NYC a couple of weekends ago.. (last weekend?) but hopefully with more people... whattya say!? we could hold it in late april, early may...on saturday.. people could bring food...blankets.. music...frisbees.. skateboards.. whatever!! god.. it would be GREAT!!! we could even try to plan it around a rave that evening... picnic and relax during the day.. then head to a rave at night... wow.. just think of the sun.. and beautiful ne-ravers.. and food.. and happiness and.. dang.. just a good time... any takers? i'd be up for it if only 2 people responded.. but, hopefully LOTS of people will be into it.. peace.love >>taylor.808 [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 03 Mar 93 01:34:48 EST From: "Douglas B. Zimmerman" Subject: Rave-o-matic X-tra special thanks to everyone for the info. enjoy doug ))))) a b00mingg baSS for a l0vingg race ((((( dz5401a@american.edu ========================================================================== NE-RAVES CALENDAR -------------------------------------------------------------------------- UPCOMING RAVES: -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, March 13 NEW YORK CITY (212) 696 - 8938 GLOBAL GROOVE 13 March 1993: G L O B A L G R O V E ASTRO DJs WINK * JAMES CHRISTIAN * FRANKIE BONES * GUY DMC SUPER DJ DMITRY * DANTE * DENARD * DJ REESE DEBO * TROPOSPHERE * JACQUELYN CHRISTIE * MR KLEEN PROPEL YOU INTO OUTER SPACE ON THE TWO DANCE FLOORS! 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NYC NYC ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Saturday, March 13 TORONTO (416) 760 - 3232 HYPNOTIC JUSTICE Pleasure Force presents HYPNOTIC JUSTICE Saturday March 13th 1993 meeting point at Union Station for info call the Pleasureline 416.760.3232 Join in Toronto's largest euphoric gathering...ever! LIVE UK PERFORMANCES INCLUDE: 02 recording artists PSYCHOTROPIC Top UK techno DJ COLIN DALE performing the legendary Hypnosis from London, England's KISS FM Including Toronto's hardcore best: Ruffneck, John E, Peter the Greek and special guest Dogwhistle and London, England's FACE [the DJ] Pleasure Force invites you and your mates to the biggest party Toronto has ever scene to date. Join us, along with thousands of others. From Detroit to Montreal, Barrie to Buffalo be with Pleasure Force on its first journey into out first celebration of 1993. Attractions: 100K of thundering bass / exclusive multi-color laser show / mind altering visuals and holograms / 360-degree sound film screens/ prgressive house - trance chill out room / Pleasure Force exclusive merchandise and accesories / our Pleasure Force dancers / nutritously fruty smart bar Ticket Info: Tickets are $18 advance and $15 at the door. available at: X-Static, Play de Record, Starssound, HMV (Missauga), word Up (Brampton) Due to the limited capacity of an event of this magnitute, we strongly recommend that you purchase your tickets in advance. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, March 13 BALTIMORE, MD (410) 880 - 7144 ENCHANTED REALITY H o l o g ra p h i c P r o d u c ti o n s presents: Enchanted Reality Mind Controling Groove Ministers: Micro (L.I.) Scott Henry (D.C.) Onionz (L.I.) DJ Who (Balto) Sameer (L.I.) Tony Pegas (Balto.) Ryde (N.J.) MasterNate (D.C.) INFORMATION: 410.880.7144 NO GLASS Smart Bar by NeuroEnergy bus trips, tickets & info: Baltimore - Modern Music 410.523.1882 D.C. - MusicNow 202.638.3272 Philly - Apple Jack 215.552.8833 New Jersey - Scott Schneider 201.927.2292 Long Island - Otmic 516.541.8357 Pittsburg - Turbozen 412.621.7759 Delaware - Marc 302.453.8567 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Friday, March 19 PHLIADELPHIA, PA (215) 787 - 3306 COLOUR BOX Headstrong People Present C O L O U R B O X Friday March 19 9pm - 6 am Philadelphia 48 before midnight $10 after midnight MAGE (Headstrong People) DAYZ X-1 (digital Deviants) FRESHCO (Digital Deviants) DAN D.C. (Thunderground) SPIKE (Planet X) ADROK (Afterworld) INFO: SHAR-E & DAZ-E 215.787.3306 OZ 215.627.1913 DEAD BY DAWN 215.552.8833 Smart Bar By Joe Popi OZ / Front & Spring Streets / In the Spring Garden Plaza / 1 block from Delaware Avenue / next to El Stop 18 and over. No Bottles --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, March 20 BALTIMORE (410) 563 - 7880 ULTRAWORLD V - COSMIC SPRING Celebrate the arrival of on the Cosmic Spring DJs: Neuromancer, DJ Who, Debo, DJ Sun, Entity, Scott Henry+ 1 more --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday March 20 WARWICK, RI (410) 621 - 7563 ATLANTIS SubMerge on March 20 A T L A N T I S We are a movement of Cybernauts seeking trancidental freedom on "the island in the net" Enter the temporary autonomous zone of Atlantis and melt into the fluid light of the Aquadome. DJs: Lenny Dee (Industrial Strength, NY) Onionz (Layaway, LI) Micro (Limelight LI) Overload (Deep-Blue, ME) Osheen (nova, RI) Rio (Glookos, NY) Submergence Zones - Beyond the volcanic dance flors: The AQUADROME, a multi-image light show and Heated Pool: caverns of Chill Chambers, Saunas, hot tubs, & Steam rooms. Optional RaveGear: Swin Stuff & Towel. Locer rooms available. Life guard on duty. High Priests to the Oracle - Mellow, Blue Crew, Wonderland Tribe, X3(cubed), Primal Posse, Alan, Dave, Emily, Scott, Apple Jack, Eric, Curious george, Christy, United Techno NO ALCOHOL Donations will be made to the Amos House and Alumni Association Principles before personalities...PEACE RI Info 410.621.7563 MA Info 617.748.8632 an ORACLE production TICKETS: $12 advance, $15 day of Available at: LunaSea (RI) 401.272.LUNA Rainbow Records (RI) 401.331.6660 Boston Beat (MA) 617.561.4790 Disc-o-Rama 12" techno 212.206.8417 (moe) Planet X (NJ) 908.249.0304 MusicNow (DC) 202.638.3272 Modern Music (MD) 410.523.1882 Zootz (ME) 207.773.6979 [Warwick R.I. is about a half hour drive south of Providence along I-95] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Friday, March 26 WASHINGTON D.C. (202) 885 - 7092 SUNSHINE (202) 885 - 7135 Sunshine - The Perpetual Dawning of a New Era in the District Micro-Rave on the campus of the American University in Washington D.C. DJs: DJ SLIP (NY) DJ PLASTECH (SF) DJ CHUCK (DC-AU) Thieu Le (UMD) Possiblely Djs Havoc and Pulse (VA), Dj Neuromancer (FRG-AU-DC) and Dj Dano (DC-AU) Starting March 26th, 10pm - 6am Gianni Lounge, Butler Pavilion Building. $5.00 Donation at the door. Oil projections, Virtual Environment Gear: Rob C. Smart Drinks by Inhuman & Ben Jaffee Lasers: Provided by UMD crew Any profits go to improving the techno collection at school radio station WVAU (event co-sponsored by WVAU) If anyone is interested in DJ'ing or helping out in any way e-mail either Susie K. (sk2479a@american.edu) or Doug Z. (dz5401a@american.edu) A C R A F T S M A N and Clueless production (Jesse - I hope that you don't mind that Susie picked the name for the rave which is your name also) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, March 27 NEWBURGH, NY GREEN EGGS AND HAM DJs Newburgh, NY is about 1 1/2 hours Scott Henry (D.C.) North of New York City OnionZ (L.I.) Jason Jinx (NASA) Tickets: $15 dollars in advance James Christian (N.Y.C.) $18 dollars at the door Reese (Primal) Overload (Flipside) Rob Gee (N.J.) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, March 27 COMEUNITY Eternal Productions Presents ComeUnity More than a rave It's a celebration of life through Music and dance ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, March 27 PROVIDENCE, RI (401) 454 - 6060 DUNE ............and there the Ancient Ones gathered upon the Sands. D U N E March 27, 1993 Experience a night of astonishing wonders featuring: DUTCh from San Francisco OShEEN OnionZ KEOKI DALE CHARLES 401- 454 - 6060 ROAR WITHOUT EXCUSE !! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Saturday, March 27 BALTIMORE, MD (410) 523 - 1882 TRIPOTRONIC SENSORY OVERLOAD For more info 410-523-1882 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Friday April 2 PITTSBURG, PA MUTATION The Second Gathering of the Techno Tribe Brought to you by the Evolution crew $3 100% legal location on the Carnegie Mello University Campus 10:30 p.m. - 4 a.m. NON-PROFIT !!! recycled productions ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Saturday, April 3 BURLINGTON, VT (617) 859 - 1775 REVERSE (802) 656 - 782? Global DJ's bring to you GLOBAL GROVES Dante (NYC) Dale Charles (San Diego) Overload (Portland) Mayhem (Boston) Kamate (Burlington) & Special Guest DJ's Boston Info Line Burlington Info Line 617-859-1775 802-656-782? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Saturday, April 3 WASHINGTON D.C. (202) 331 - 4465 BACK TO THE FUTURE M2 Productions wants to take you... BACK TO THE F U T U R E Saturday - April 3, 1993 festivities start @ 9pm dj's Scott Henry - fever, balt Frankie Bones - storm, ny Onionz - caffeine, li Michael Mecham - future, flinstone Lennie Dee - industrial strength Keoki - disco 200, ny Dave Trance - caffeine, li Strobe - euphoria, pa On-E - liquid sky, ny Sean McIlvain - flinstone, dc Jimmy Crash - storm, ny Ed Bailey - tracks w/afterhours Mr. Kleen - n.a.s.a., ny Lieven DeGeyndt - musicnow, ny Karl Matthews - matrix, dc Dave Wave - bar, ct Chris Herr - dc Debo - boston, ma Performing Live! N.R.G. with their first & only U.S. appearance "I need your loving" APHEX TWIN - R.S. Records Lights by New York's own SCOTTO Lighting design by Conceptions SMART BAR by NUTRIENT CAFE & Lewis Aronoft To Trip Your Senses MINDMACHINES The Largest Sound, Lights & Video ever 16 & Over assembled on the East Coast!!! "Stop your Heart Bass" by CONCEPTIONS Brought to you by... Mecham & McIlvain sponsored by Yogi Inc. Special Thanks to: Brian Kane, Z&R Fishman, Musicnow, A&A Graphics Colin Davies, Deanna, John Kadish, Autobahn Records, the staff and dj's from Future '92, Moby, Chris Cleen, Bobbie West & Scott Henry ay Yogi Inc. promotion by: Dennis the Mennis Eddie Van Raven, Rob Rave Mello Mello - blue crew Go Go & Daisy $16 tickets sold at Musicnow ONLY $18 at the door $1 off w/ a canned good items to benefit the AIDS food bank and the homeless portion of the proceeds will go to Wildlife Preservations Bus Trip and Rave info: Turbozen - pittsburgh 412.621.7759 Joint Ventures - new york - 212.631.1065 Applejack - philli - 215.602.2226 US Rave Team - philli - 412.373.6863 Concept Records - boston - 617.556.5325 Musicnow - DC - 202.638.3272 Mello Mello - new york - 212.631.4290 For All Info Call 202.331.4465 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Saturday, April 17 GRIN PORTLAND, ME (207) 773 - 6979 K.C. and the Sunrise Gang, together with Pandemonium, brought you Crusade, Sky High and Deep -- Now let us make you GRIN Saturday, April 17, Portland, ME Fully legal warehouse space overlooking the Atlantic With special guests: Frankie Bones (Storm/Brooklyn) Tin Tin (Energy/U.K.) Overload (Deep/Sky High/Portland) Dante (Evolution/N.Y.) Dale Charles, Evar (San Diego) M-gee (Rise/Primary/London) PLUS OTHERS TO COME For more info call (207)773-6979 Full-color flyers available in March woth N.Y., Boston, R.I. & N.H. bus info. Available through MelloMello, VinylMania, Planet X, Groove Records, Boston Beat, The Other Side Cafe, Lunacy, Rock Bottom Records & Bad Habits. OR, mail self-addressed envelope to GRIN, c/o ZOOTZ, 31 Forest Ave, Portland, ME 04101 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, April 24 BOSTON (617) 629 - 0777 FIELDS OF JOY Presented by Never Neverland Productions We support B.U.S. Info coming soon(617) 629-0777 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Earth Day PROVIDENCE, RI (401) 751 - 5695 EARTH DAY RAVE Earth Day Rave -- April 1993 Home Planet SAT Night Rehersals & Production join us Media Circus 401-751-5695 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- April LONG ISLAND, NY ESSENCE 2 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- May HARTFORD, CT SUPER BIG DOSE ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Friday June 18 - Monday June 21 RAVESTOCK NEW YORK STATE 1 - 800 - 4RAVE - LINE ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1993 16:33:58 -0500 (EST) From: colombene Subject: boston is anyone from boston/cambridge esp. going to atlantis on mar.20 and can give 2 (possibly 3) people a ride? and i too would like to know about dance record stores in boston. perhaps someone should post them for everyone because other people have asked in the past. thanks. love>bene [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 9 Mar 93 16:46 EST From: laura@usl.com Subject: Re: Rave-o-matic And you didn't answer my question . . . do you guys want/need me to spin or what? I don't claim to be a great DJ, but I will work for free and I do have a bunch of brand-new hardcore records. Laura [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 9 Mar 93 16:32 EST From: laura@usl.com Subject: Re: rave-o-matic updates Here is the full flyer for the Green Eggs and Ham. Sorry didn't get it on to the Rave-o-matic! thanks Laura for the info doug 0 ( dz5401a@american.edu ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- lorax productions and hudson valley skate park present GREEN EGGS AND HAM saturday march 27th spinning till....? scott henry (dc) onionz (li) jason jinx (nasa) james christian (fluid) on-e (nasa) reese (primal) overload (flipside) rob gee (nj) matt lawrence (newburg) bowl saking all night [ bring pads ] TICKETS: $18 at door, $15 in advance only certain # of tickets printed. Buy in advance. Door subject to ticket sales. A portion of your ticket purchase will be donated to "with god's love we deliver," a program helping those who have AIDS and are bed ridden R.I. tim o'keefe (508) - 226 - 2716 lunasea (401) - 272 - luna BOSTON "the other side" (617) - 536 - 9477 N.J. dave s. (908) - 972 - 8646 james t. (908) - 777 - 7392 anthony boy (201) - 288 - 7019 anthony danio (908) - 972 - 2313 kristian s. (201) - 748 - 0083 groove thing (201) - 564 - 8868 N.Y.C. allan sanctuary (212) - 696 - 8938 vinyl mania (212) - 463 - 7408 house (212) - 677 - 7379 mike d. (212) - 995 - 1574 joe exlax (212) - 517 - 7072 STATEN ISLAND rob rob (718) - 876 - 7233 or 399 - 5050 BALTIMORE scott henry (301) - 474 - 4235 PHILLY applejack & under (215) - 602 - 2226 jenna (215) - 757 - 0646 L.I. trepp (516) - 758 - 8790 D.C. music now (202) - 638 - 3272 michael c. (202) - 638 - 5937 BROOKLYN kyra (718) - 232 - 7238 NEWBURG hudson valley skate park john mennrich (914) - 565 - 5370 [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: nivekogr@Athena.MIT.EDU Subject: Laura: Pls review your new hardcore records! Date: Tue, 09 Mar 93 17:49:00 EST The subject line is my request. For my part, I'd like to recommend the 'X103' EP on Axis Records. Kind of weird that its not on Underground Resistance like X101 & X102. Maybe they're not even connected? Five tracks, two of which are nice 'n' noisy and poundy - in fact , one of them sounded like my needle was skipping but it wasn't -- how 'bout that?! The other tracks are unusual ambient/trancy stuff. Also on Accelerate, The Silicon Ghetto Vol.2 has a track from Kaos Theory which is Repete and Damon Wild, the guys behind Equinox. Still wondering who did Probe #11. -Chris Teixeira [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: nivekogr@Athena.MIT.EDU Subject: Atlantis Date: Tue, 09 Mar 93 18:09:39 EST From: colombene > Is anyone from boston/cambridge esp. going to atlantis on mar.20 and can > give 2 (possibly 3) people a ride? When I first ft was given an Atlantis flyer by the guy in the scuba suit and glow in the dark air tank at Blue, I thought "A rave at a swimming pool? Sounds like an accident waiting to happen." and didn't give it much of a second thought. But now, a month since Blue and my last event, I'm pretty eager to attend. The Lenny Dee/Osheen/Onionz Dj list helps matters tremendously, as well. I still don't see how they're going to prevent hallucinating kids from drowning themselves but my interest is very piqued. Keeping in mind that the producers, Oracle, have been busted in the past I hope they know what they're doing. I just called their MA. hot-line and left a message asking if there was a shuttle from Boston to Warwick. I'll post any info I acquire. >and i too would like to know about dance record stores in boston. perhaps >someone should post them for everyone because other people have asked in the >past. thanks. I only know of two that attempt to keep up with stuff. They are Newbury Comics on Newbury St. and Boston Beat on Bennington Av. in East Boston. Hopefully, someone else will give you the exact addresses. -Chris Teixeira P.S. I live in Cambridge. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 9 Mar 93 18:35:00 EST From: "John Speakman" Subject: Global Gro(o)ves Hiya! Anyone know who is doing this (i.e. who is Primal?) and where you get invites? John [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: "Jeanne Finks" Subject: Atlantis bus info: Date: Tue, 9 Mar 93 19:43:32 EST *********************************************************************** Atlantis bus information for anyone who needs a ride, we've organized a bus to go to and from the rave on Mar. 20th. It will leave from the Boston area- call Pete (617) 736-5941 bet. midnite and 7am. *********************************************************************** 888888888888888888888888888888888 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 ! ! 8 8 8 8 8 O 8 888888888888888888888888888888888888888 8 88 o O 8 8 o O o/888o o88888888888888888888o o888888 oooo oooo [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1993 22:33:25 -0500 (EST) From: Alan Michael Parry Subject: HOM AGAIN!! Okay...another early reminder. Since some of you people out there in cyberspace seemed to somehow miss the Hookup-O-Matic last week, i'm here to point out that i need your info for the upcoming weekend. thankyou muchly.. --Fluid [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 9 Mar 93 22:36:37 EST From: WILL-E Subject: Re: ne-raves picnic > .. ne-ravers down here to have a picnic in central park... it could be the > re-birth of the failed trip to NYC a couple of weekends ago.. (last weekend?) > but hopefully with more people... > we could hold it in late april, early may...on saturday.. people could bring > food...blankets.. music...frisbees.. skateboards.. whatever!! god.. it would > be GREAT!!! we could even try to plan it around a rave that evening... > picnic and relax during the day.. then head to a rave at night... In England this summer, we'd have spontaneous raves EVERYWHERE. The park in the summertime is best! And it would be for free... AS IT SHOULD BE. All you do is get a generator, some speakers, decks, a dj and people. Central park would be BRILLIANT! People would see it as a free concert. If for some reason it becomes a problem for anyone (cops?) then we had fun anyway! That's the spirit of it! The best ones I went to were on the beach, ALL NIGHT LONG.... There was even one on the subway in London... the circle line that goes round and round the city... WILL-E [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 9 Mar 93 19:56:19 -0800 From: ccat@netcom.com (Chris) Subject: Dante's picnics.. I was speaking to several members of Evolution Vibe Tribe over the past few days and they all mentioned that Dante and his friends will be having picnics in Central Park (I think) over the summer... Maybye NE-Raves might be able to collaborate with him on one? -Chris. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 09 Mar 1993 23:07:58 -0400 (EDT) From: an excursion through technospace Subject: more piknik stuff well.. gosh.. TONS of people are into this picnic idea... the only that concerns me (which is easy to get around) is that it will get too "serious" and collapse in on itself.. like the ne-raves rave.. all i want to do for this.. is have a picnic.. no big plans.. no HUGE ideas. just a lot of friends.. and potential friends getting together to have a beautiful afternoon together.. we can try to come up with a date that is cool for most people... and then i'll go sit in the park with some juice and wait for people to show up...simple as that.. if we start making big extravagant plans it'll collapse..! everyone's into it.. even dave from ohio! dang..(hopefully the rest of the ohio posse too..) so... any date ideas?? perhaps april 24th ?? april 17th? may 1st? actually.. may first would be cool. it's the day after my birthday :) and wow.. what a birthday present THAT would be. :) well.. keep the interest coming in... food, music, love and a shinin' sun >>taylor.808 [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 9 Mar 93 23:31:50 -0500 From: brendan mcdougall Subject: the scene Hi Gang, I'm posting this for a friend. Her e-mail address is berliant@binah.cc.brandeis.edu, so please send your responses to her and save band-width on the list-server. Thanks -=-b -------------------------- Hello to the Rave-net! I am working on a sociological study of the Rave scene and an article for a Rave 'zine and I was hoping to get some help. Most of this is going to be based on observations and my impressions from Raves I have attended, particularly The Ultimate In Chill(bro) in NYC this past weekend. For those of you who want to participate I would love it if you could send me a brief statement, especially if you were at the Ritz. Below are some questions in which I am interested, but any other comments would also be welcomed. I know it is short notice, but I need responses by Saturday March 13th, the earlier the better! I will use people's nicknames in the article unless otherwise instructed in order to maintain anonymity. Thanks in advance and see you about :) ! - Lulu - Questions: 1. How long have you been in the Rave scene? 2. How did you start Raving? 3. With whom do you Rave? 4. How old are you and what do you do? 5. Who is the last person you met at a Rave and what are they like? 6. Have you made friends through Raving? 7. What did you wear to the last Rave you attended and why? 8. What does the scene mean to you? 9. How does Raving effect you? 10. Are most of your friends Ravers? 11. Typically, what do you do before a Rave? 12. What did you do for entertainment before you joined the Rave scene? 13. How would you describe your political beliefs and are you politically active? 14. Pick 5 words to describe yourself 15. Do non-Ravers know that you Rave? 16. What is your Utopian ideal? 17. What paraphernalia do you bring to Raves? 18. Where are you from? 19. What makes a good Rave? 20. What is the farthest distance you have gone to go to a Rave? 21. Do you give things to people at Raves and do you trust the things you get from others? 22. Have you ever dated a Raver? 23. Do you wear badges or consider yourself to be part of a particular group? 24. Has a Rave ever been a prelude to sex? 25. What do you look for in other Ravers? 26. What do you look for in a partner? 27. How do you distinguish a Raver from a poser? 28. Who would you exclude from the scene? 29. Who do you wish would join the scene? 30. What non-Rave things do you enjoy doing? 31. What kind of community if any do you perceive the scene to be? 32. If you have met a partner at a Rave, how long was the relationship? 33. Are you more open to the opposite sex (or the same sex, depending upon your preference) at a Rave than at other clubs? 34. Do you see the Rave scene as a pickup scene? 35. Do you use your real name at Raves and if not, what is your nickname? 36. What is the persona of your alter ego like? 37. Do you use any substance to enhance Raves? What and how frequently? 38. Do you drink Smart Drinks? 39. What is your gender, ethnic and sexual identity? 40. What is the best Rave you have attended and what made it so? [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: Dave Miller Subject: Re: more piknik stuff Date: Wed, 10 Mar 93 0:45:08 EST > > any date ideas?? perhaps april 24th ?? april 17th? may 1st? ^^^^^^^^^^ That day gets my vote, but just 'cause it's my birthday. I can celebrate my first day as yet another American Without Health Insurance. :) > > actually.. may first would be cool. it's the day after my birthday :) and > wow.. what a birthday present THAT would be. > > :) That's a good date too, any Saturday would be fine with me because then I have all of Friday to drive or whatever to get there. > > > >>taylor.808 > -- d i g t h e m u s i c , k i d s . . . Dave Miller _________________________________dvmiller@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 10 Mar 1993 01:05:46 -0400 (EDT) From: an excursion through technospace Subject: Re: ne-raves picnic > All you do is get a generator, some speakers, decks, a dj and people. Central park would be BRILLIANT! nonono.. not my idea...this is a SMIPLE picnic. food and friends..."private" friendly.. cozy.. setting up generators in central park in themiddle of the day in NYC would NOT be a good idea.. and would defeat the whole purpose of this.. hopefully the food and SMALL boom-boxed music and the ne-ravers will still be enough to get you to come! >>taylor.808 [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 9 Mar 93 22:28:28 -0800 From: ccat@netcom.com (Chris) Subject: Fun party idea!! Hey, here's an idea for a party.. A small FM transmitter could be rigged to a boombox (even wired up inside of it) Everyone could go to the park with their boombox and tune them all to the transmitter's frequency... Everyione turns up their boombox..people start dancing.. If the cops come, just move the party.. The sound system would be impossible to stop..! -Chris. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1993 02:40:01 -0500 (EST) From: Nina Heather Sanchez Subject: Re: Fun party idea!! On Tue, 9 Mar 1993, Chris wrote: > Hey, here's an idea for a party.. A small FM transmitter could be rigged > to a boombox (even wired up inside of it) Everyone could go to the park > with their boombox and tune them all to the transmitter's frequency... > Everyione turns up their boombox..people start dancing.. If the cops come, > just move the party.. The sound system would be impossible to stop..! > -Chris. You know, I thought of that a while ago! Actually I went and found a couple places that sell small FM transmitters. I mean SMALL, tiny ones! They are smaller than a pack of cigarettes. If there is interest here I can post some prices and the companies that will sell you them. Joe (187- Mobile Live Techno Vibes) [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Subject: Re: ne-raves picnic From: inhuman@mindvox.phantom.com (Inhuman) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 93 03:26:21 EST Hey, the same suggestion has been made for a gathering on the National Mall here in D.C., Taylor! I would be up for either or both. Any ne-raves gathering and I'll bust my ass to get there! Michael | "I've begun to wonder if we wouldn't (inhuman@mindvox.phantom.com) | also regard spelunkers as desperate | criminals if AT&T owned all the ...trance form...trance send... | caves." --John Perry Barlow [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Subject: Re: Fun party idea!! From: inhuman@mindvox.phantom.com (Inhuman) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 93 03:36:06 EST Whoa, don't go and BUY an FM transmittor! I can build one, no problem. If it's less than ten dollars, then it might be worth it for simplicity's sake, but otherwise I'll just build one. I have schematics lying around somewhere. Michael | "I've begun to wonder if we wouldn't (inhuman@mindvox.phantom.com) | also regard spelunkers as desperate | criminals if AT&T owned all the ...trance form...trance send... | caves." --John Perry Barlow [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1993 08:31:51 -0500 (EST) From: Kenny Eng Subject: Re: Global Gro(o)ves primal posse consists of (at least) dj denard, james christian and jacqueline christie kenny [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 10 Mar 93 10:12 EST From: laura@usl.com Subject: apology and a few rave notes Sorry that some personal mail from me to Doug got onto the list. I hit 'r' instead of 'R'. The first Oracle rave, back in October, was busted, but Manny learned from his mistakes and threw a good New Year's rave with NO legal problems whatsoever. In fact, the only problem with that whole party was the sound system set-up, which was the fault of the sound man Manny hired and the acoustics of the cinder block wall gymnasium. I'd say give Atlantis a go if you feel like it. I talked to Manny a bunch before Metamorphosis 2 and he's got his stuff together these days. The Primal Posse is a bunch of DJs in New York that have been throwing the used-to-be-Sundays-then-moved -to-the-Limelight-on-Fridays-and-has-now-moved- elsewhere-again Primal parties. These DJs include Denard, Reese, and Jacqueline Christie. If it weren't for the fact that my mother was going to be in town this weekend I'd be going to their rave because the DJ list looks good and their last rave (right before Christmas) went over well. I'm still not back on the list for real, I just post messages from time to time, so if there's anything you want me to see you'll have to send it to me directly. Oh yeah, one more thing: Taylor is 100% right about the Central Park picnic, just show up with some food and some tapes, no big deal. The reason why the various ne-raves parties (not the ne-raves non-rave) worked was because there was minimal planning by a minimal subset of people. Too many cooks spoiling the soup and all that. Camper and John had a mini-rave in a park in Boston one night that consisted of people showing up with their boom boxes and tuning in to some late-night techno show -- going basic will make things work! Laura [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1993 11:03:54 -0500 From: ajackson Subject: Raving, etc. in San Francisco I'm wondering if anyone can help me out here... I'm headed for San Francisco on business for two weeks and I don't know a soul out there. Does anyone know of any good raves, clubs, record stores, clothing stores, things to do, nice friendly ravers, etc. in San Francisco? I'd be most grateful! AJAX [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 10 Mar 93 08:47:37 -0800 From: ccat@netcom.com (Chris) Subject: Fun idea..! Here's the text of an article I'm working on for Fuzzy Logic.. what do you folks think of this idea? -Chris. Cheaptech blaster/FM TRANSMITTER! Hey,guys and gals. Have you ever fantasized about being your own radio dj,playing all your favo- rite mixes to all your friends .. Well, if you have a minimum skill with a soldering iron..it's possible to build a small stereo radio transmitter. This transmitter is so small it can be put inside of a boombox...so you can take your party on the road!(The ones with mike mixing and built in EQ's are best!) Imagine the fun when you and your friends have a picnic in the park..all listening to the same tune on your blasters.."But where is it coming from..?" Take the party out to the streets,out to the front of your favorite rave or club..Anyone with an FM radio can share in the fun..(For a completely *silent* party,use headphones,You can all still dance!!!) The kits that make it all possible are the Ramsey FM-10 microtransmitter module or the BA 1404 FM stereo module. This and some other systems has been described in the July 1992 issue of Popular Electronics,along with some popular mods.The parts are,for the most part,really cheap..so,experiment! The'mods' may be required to improve certain characteristics of these transmitters..One good idea would be to replace the standard capacitors with silver-mica or tantalum capacitors and possibly (if you are using the FM-10)to replace c7 with a 68 pf capacitor (to narrow the tuning range..which is quite sharp..)or even better,to replace c7 and c8 (which are wired in parallel) with a 38 khz quartz crystal and a 10-20 pf capacitor,wired in series.. This makes it easier to develop a stable stereo signal!! If you're using an antenna (and not building this inside a blaster) the ideal antenna length is found by this formula 234/frequency = length in feet The frequency should be around 88 or 108 mHz (the ends of the FM band!) You'll get better reception if you keep the antenna up and away from metal objects.. If you are building this inside a blaster you'll want to add a "4PDT" tiny toggle switch to turn on the transmitter,bypass the headphone output of the blaster into the transmitter,(you may want to add a volume control for each channel here to adjust the coarse audio level),and disconnect the antenna from the FM receiver and attatch it to the transmitter.Label this switch "Transmit"Try to use a good quality switch here, and keep the leads as short as possible.(You can probably get this switch at Radio Shack or if you live in NYC,on Canal St.) An antenna trick might be to add a sheet of flashing copper to the bottom of the blaster case and connect it to chassis ground on the blaster.This can provide a 'ground plane'.Make sure it doesn't make contact with any power wires.This helps the whip antenna have something to work 'against'- dramatically increasing your range if you put your blaster on a car.For more information about radio transmitter construction techniques check out books on amateur radio at your public library.(If your town still has one in this era of cutbacks) Remember when doing wiring to stay far away from any 110 volt wiring in your blaster.This is usually connected to the power switch and the power plug.(You will want to have a friend who knows electronics check your work,before you turn it on,if you have any doubts..) Good luck! Okay,here are the surces for the kits and information.. The BA1404 transmitter is $2.00 (yes,that wasn't a typo.)from D.C. Electronics. 1-800 467-7736 or 1-800 423-0700 The manufacturer can be reached at Rohm Corporation, 3034 Owen Drive Antioch,TN 37013 (615)641-2020 The FM-10 transmitter can be obtained from Ramsey Electronics at (716)924-4560 38 khz crystals are available from Digi-Key (800)DIGI-KEY (part #SE3314) (be careful when soldering this) Much higher quality,but much more expensive kits can be bought from Panaxis Productions,PO Box 130,Paradise,CA 95967 (916)534-0417 There's lots more info I could steer you to,but we have limited space. For more FM-10 info,there's a mailing list on the Internet that you can join to get more info..(if you have e-mail access) It's accessible by sending a quick note to: fm-10-request@dg-rtp.dg.com There's also a file available by Internet FTP (file transfer utility) on related subjects..It's on the 'host' dg-rtp.dg.com in the fm-10 directory. Also, a small packet on FM-10's can be gotten from Mycal at PO Box 750381 Petaluma,CA 94975. Send him a dollar and a self addressed,stamped envelope to cover mailing costs. Good luck! Who needs a club to have a rave!! -Chris. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 10 Mar 93 09:49:19 -0800 From: bill coderre Subject: Re: Fun idea..! Re: Ramsey FM-10 transmitters and raves. We've talked about this a few times, and there's no real reason you can't do it. The Ramsey kit is of very good quality sound, stereo, and not that big a deal to assemble and align for someone who's done this before. (The modifications commonly described are therefore, optional. Not really necessary.) You can get the kit at many electronics/surplus places, and it runs on batteries. It's inexpensive, even if you get the custom case for it. One thing I like about the idea is that it virtually eliminates the possibility of noise complaints. One thing some deejays might not like is that it makes it easy to tape their sets. As for the legality of broadcasting: there is some confusion about how much power you are allowed to use, however, you do not need much power to fill a warehouse -- and the structure of the building will tend to contain the radiation so that it won't carry too much farther. Pumping up the power is NOT RECOMMENDED, however, since the FCC could potentially hand you a very large fine. If I were going to do this, I would probably stick to stock, and use a small antenna (like the one that comes with stereos). If coverage wasn't good enough, I'd try a Radio Shack FM "roof mount" antenna. If reception is still problematic, I'd re-evaluate the site. Sounds like it's worth a try. Contact me if you like. bill coderre [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1993 13:01:30 -0500 (EST) From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: Fun party idea!! (187- Mobile Live Techno Vibes) On Wed, 10 Mar 1993, Inhuman wrote: > Whoa, don't go and BUY an FM transmittor! I can build one, no > problem. If it's less than ten dollars, then it might be worth it for > simplicity's sake, but otherwise I'll just build one. I have schematics > lying around somewhere. I knew you could. I was just waiting for you to respond. Joe [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1993 13:33:43 -0500 (EST) From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: ne-raves picnic On xxx, 9 Mar 1993, an excursion through technospace wrote: > > > > > > hello everyone.. i was in central park (NYC) the other day and feeling quite > blown away by its beauty and peacefulness.. i was sitting on a bench.. smiling > and feeling really happy.. then i thought of how great it would be to get YOU > .. ne-ravers down here to have a picnic in central park... it could be the > re-birth of the failed trip to NYC a couple of weekends ago.. (last weekend?) > but hopefully with more people... > > whattya say!? > > we could hold it in late april, early may...on saturday.. people could bring > food...blankets.. music...frisbees.. skateboards.. whatever!! god.. it would > be GREAT!!! we could even try to plan it around a rave that evening... > picnic and relax during the day.. then head to a rave at night... > > wow.. Yeah, that would be cool. I'm into the idea big! > just think of the sun.. and beautiful ne-ravers.. and food.. and happiness > and.. dang.. just a good time... > > any takers? YEAH!!! > i'd be up for it if only 2 people responded.. Count me in. > but, hopefully LOTS of people will be into it.. I for one am. This could be cool. Joe [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 10 Mar 93 15:12:00 From: jeremias@MIT.EDU (Jeremy Grainger) Subject: Re: Fun party idea!! FANTASTIC IDEA! I can't wait. When???? Last summer, some of the Boston techno crowd (Walter mainly) organized a middle of night event somewhat like this one. He spread by word of mouth to meet at a local park at 2:30 am (after Venus closed) and bring radios/boomboxes. We all tuned in to WZBC 90.3 FM to Rich LaDue's house show. Rich added to his playlist especially for the evening and it was a fantastic event drawing about 50-60 people who hung around and danced til dawn... The layout of the place (the Vet's Memorial in the Fenway) was such that there was kind of a circle with benches and concrete blocks that folks danced on. And it was out of earshot of the residences in the neighborhood. The cops showed up a couple of times (perplexed). Walter was real nice to them and they said we could continue as long as there no complaints about noise...there were none, so on it went: a Midsummer Nights Dream come true! We could probably arrange the same thing again sometime as many of us are connected to ZBC. [I do a show Weds/Thurs 10 pm-2 am, called Temporary Autonomous Zone part of the Z's "No Commercial Potential" -- electronic, ambient, experimental, international...] But I think the idea of a low wattage transmitter & roaming public party is great. I have quite a bit of info about Pirate Radios and how to build, but some of you are more into the the techie stuff than I am so I'll defer... Keep it underground. Peace. Jeremy [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 10 Mar 1993 15:55:38 -0500 From: KPLEECH@amherst.edu Subject: Montreal info request hello nE's.... I'll be in Montreal starting Monday night and staying through the weekend, which means unfortunately i'll be missing the intriging and risky Atlantis. However, i'd like to know if anyone has any recommends about Montreal rave culture: nightclubs, bars, raves, whatever. Any industrial infor would be cool as well. Hell, anywhere I can have a good time will do. Unless you feel it is worthy of publicity, just send whatever info you have right to me. Thanks a lot! -Franklin kpleech@amherst.edu PS: Are there any other ravers out there in the Pioneer Valley who find it utterly pathetic that (1) there's no scene here and (2) you can't get advance tix anywhere in this state but Boston? [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1993 13:33:43 -0500 (EST) From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: ne-raves picnic On xxx, 9 Mar 1993, an excursion through technospace wrote: > > > > > > hello everyone.. i was in central park (NYC) the other day and feeling quite > blown away by its beauty and peacefulness.. i was sitting on a bench.. smiling > and feeling really happy.. then i thought of how great it would be to get YOU > .. ne-ravers down here to have a picnic in central park... it could be the > re-birth of the failed trip to NYC a couple of weekends ago.. (last weekend?) > but hopefully with more people... > > whattya say!? > > we could hold it in late april, early may...on saturday.. people could bring > food...blankets.. music...frisbees.. skateboards.. whatever!! god.. it would > be GREAT!!! we could even try to plan it around a rave that evening... > picnic and relax during the day.. then head to a rave at night... > > wow.. Yeah, that would be cool. I'm into the idea big! > just think of the sun.. and beautiful ne-ravers.. and food.. and happiness > and.. dang.. just a good time... > > any takers? YEAH!!! > i'd be up for it if only 2 people responded.. Count me in. > but, hopefully LOTS of people will be into it.. I for one am. This could be cool. Joe [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 10 Mar 93 17:55:21 -0500 From: kzimmerman@eagle.wesleyan.edu Subject: callwaiting aid hello all... i realize this isn't raverelated but it is .net related. on my phone, i have call-waiting and did not know i could turn it off until recently. problem is, what i have to dial before the number is *-7-0. So, does anyone know how to duplicate that "*" button to dial onto a modem? i tried to put just a plain old * symbol in the dial portion, but that didn't work. if anyone can point me in the rigght direction or help, thank you... Peace. SparklE [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: Kristine Carrol Noel Subject: One more event... Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1993 18:30:23 -0500 (EST) Here is one more rave i didn't see on the Rave-O-Matic....just in case anyone was interested...:) ....el sensorium technorganic center.... LIQUID SKY (little man with antennae) :) NOISE LAB ENCOUNTER MARCH 13th *212-226-0657* Liquid sky noise lab X-periment II ..Sounds of the Universe... Noise by: SOUL SLINGER (Liquid Sky) DIMITRI (Dee-Lite) On-E (NASA) SMASH (Giant Step/New Breed Records) ADAM X (Groove Records) MARK KAMINS (Prime Cuts) JOESKI (NASA) THINK TANK ROOM Minus 8 (John Hall + Adam G.) SAT. MAR. 13th 11pm till ___ PRIVATE PARTY BY INVITATION ONLY Location: 99 seconds from Williamsburg bridge 141-155 South 5th st. (between Bedford/Driggs), Brooklyn Shuttle service ($2) available from 157 Hudson (Shelter) Runs 11pm to 3am Inquiries Call 212-226-0657 THANKS TO HEATHER FROM AQUASONIC [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 10 Mar 93 19:02:12 -0500 From: jna@silver.lcs.mit.edu (court and spark) Subject: Re: Fun party idea!! I was there! that was GREAT!!!!!!!!! -john [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 10 Mar 93 19:09:00 EST From: "John Speakman" Subject: Re: The Scene, polls etc. Hiya! Hmmm... >Hello to the Rave-net! I am working on a sociological study of the >Rave scene >3. With whom do you Rave? >11. Typically, what do you do before a Rave? >14. Pick 5 words to describe yourself >15. Do non-Ravers know that you Rave? >16. What is your Utopian ideal? >22. Have you ever dated a Raver? >24. Has a Rave ever been a prelude to sex? >28. Who would you exclude from the scene? >34. Do you see the Rave scene as a pickup scene? >36. What is the persona of your alter ego like? etc..... I don't want to sound like a moany old git but I think the answer to question 28 is people who do these nosey parker pseudo-"sociological" studies (probably for a scientific journal like sassy magazine or something). I think people should tell them to get lost. Er... Discuss. ...and who say "who" when they mean "whom" [:) John. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: Kristine Carrol Noel Subject: Johns comment on the questions... Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1993 20:08:26 -0500 (EST) I have to agree with John, I thought it was pretty cheesey myself but didn't want to ruffle any feathers. What do people think? I think its a really good way to screw up, candy-coat, or just plain make up information on Raving and Ravers and show it to the uninformed public and exploiting media. IMHO, the essence of raving cannot be explained like how to bake cookies with a list of ingredients.... It's totally individual. In order to understand it, they should Rave themselves. Then they will know and won't have to ask. Trying to write the A B C's of raving is pretty.....uh, I can't find the words i'm looking for... ridiculous I guess. I'll quit now. :) *RAVE ON!!* Luv, The Kat In The Hat [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 10 Mar 93 21:45:16 -0500 From: Duncan Charles Haberly Subject: Re: Krusty's Again: THANKS TO ALL NERAVERS WHO CAME TO KRUSTY'S!!!!!!!! Now here's the new Cyber line-up: March 27 at Trax here in Charlottesville (that's Virginia) we will be shooting for the club vibe. I am working hard on this one and think it should be fun, especially for central Virginia folks, HOWEVER I honestly can't say it is going to be worth long ride for NEravers DC and above. APRIL 17 will be KRUSTY'S II: ELECTRIC BUGALOO This should be serious fun. Same space, more lights, more sound, more candy, toys, etc. D.J.'s will be announced as soon as I get on the phone and secure some. I will post on the R-O-M and H-O-M as soon as I get full act into gear - just wanted everyone to think about keeping this date in mind. I can't tell everyone out there how important NEraves was to making the vibe at Krusty's work! The NEravers who came made the event as far as I'm concerned! I am going to try to get an even more reduced entry fee at the next one for anyone with an NEraves badge. Thanks again, Duncan [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 10 Mar 93 23:43:46 EST From: WILL-E Subject: Green Eggs and Ham Thanx to Laura for posting up the flyer. I was going to do it but I gave away all my flyers and forgot to keep one for myself! I was going to add me to that list of where to get tickets. I guess I'm THEE representative for New Jersey. As far south as New Brunswick and as far north as Newark. I'm also in New York city a lot so I can meet you if you like. My friend is the person putting on this rave if you have any questions about it. Incidently, it's only just over an hour north from New York city. Feel free to email: perez@andromeda.rutgers.edu WILL-E [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1993 23:50:30 -0500 From: wolf@newfoundland.rs.itd.umich.edu (Frederick W. 747-2933) Subject: Re: Laura: Pls review your new hardcore records! X103 is Rob Noiz and Jeff Mills, both of the LATE Underground Resistance. Seems everybody wanted to do their own sound Mad Mike Banks is maintaining the UR moniker and is producing some sublime trance-n-dental sounds. Axis is Jeff Mills own record label. - fred [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1993 10:28:25 -0500 (EST) From: Matthew Donald Drown Subject: Re: Fun idea..! Excerpts from internet.ne-raves: 10-Mar-93 Re: Fun idea..! by bill coderre@apple.com > As for the legality of broadcasting: there is some confusion about how > much power you are allowed to use, however, you do not need much power > to fill a warehouse -- and the structure of the building will tend to Last I knew, 1/10 of 1 Watt was the legal limit without licenses. Mr Microphone probably fits into this category. If you guys want to do what you are planning, just remember you probably have to break the law to do it. Not really a big deal, just remember that you are. -Matt [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: pashdown@slack.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown) Subject: Re: Fun idea..! Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1993 10:02:36 -0700 (MST) > > As for the legality of broadcasting: there is some confusion about how > > much power you are allowed to use, however, you do not need much power > > to fill a warehouse -- and the structure of the building will tend to > > Last I knew, 1/10 of 1 Watt was the legal limit without licenses. Mr > Microphone probably fits into this category. If you guys want to do > what you are planning, just remember you probably have to break the law > to do it. Not really a big deal, just remember that you are. Whoa! Hold on there son! You mean we're going to have to break the law? Raves have never done anything like that! [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1993 13:02:21 -0500 From: mIkE rObErTs Subject: RoM submission Just picked up this flier at Triumverate Records hot off the press: Modern Music presents: T R I P O T R O N I C S E N S O R Y O V E R L O A D march 27,1993 10pm till 10am Sensory overload arena 1 the Aphex Twin Scott Henry richard james, UK fever,citrus club Jeff Mills DJ Sun underground resistance Ultraworld, reptilian James Christian Live performance by Glitch storm rave, NYC cuts off their new 12" "trauma on industrial strength" Sensory overload arena 2 experience a landscape of sound, smell, vision, & touch designed to overload your sensory perseptions amazing 360 degree visiul immersion aroma therapy a masseuse on duty Overload DJ's: Mindphuq LG Bobble Wash Who Entity Gyrobix 3-d virtual reality Jolt Cola tickets are $15 and available at bus trip & out of state info modern music (Balt) 410-523-1882 MusicNow (DC) 202-638-3272 Sound of market 2 Philly 215-602-2289 Planet x,NY 908-249-0304 m.a.r.c., del 302-453-0567 vinyl mania, NY 212-463-7120 NO TICKETS AT THE DOOR turbozen, pa 412-621-7759 for a better vibe only 2500 tickets will be available tripotronic 7 May Day fest may 8, 1993 [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu (X) Subject: NEW ZINE SEEKING SUBMISSIONS Date: Thu, 11 Mar 93 12:07:10 MST Hello. My name is Andy Hawks, and I am the publisher of a new zine called "[the] Infinite Edge". Information about the zine follows, but for now I will give a quick overview of myself and the basic intentions of this new zine. For approximately two years now, I have been producing, electronically, a text file entitled The FutureCulture FAQ. This message is intended to be spread electronically, primarily, so I am sure many will be aware of the jargon used here. But for those that are not, FAQ stands for Frequently Asked Questions and is a guide or handbook if you will. My FutureCulture FAQ file then, pertains to varying aspects of, as the name implies, culture in the future. This file arose out of an interest primarily in cyberpunk fiction, particularly the idea that "cyberpunk is really about the present". [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1993 14:18:03 -0500 (EST) From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: Fun idea..! (187- Mobile Live Techno Vibes) On Thu, 11 Mar 1993, Matthew Donald Drown wrote: > Excerpts from internet.ne-raves: 10-Mar-93 Re: Fun idea..! by bill > coderre@apple.com > > As for the legality of broadcasting: there is some confusion about how > > much power you are allowed to use, however, you do not need much power > > to fill a warehouse -- and the structure of the building will tend to > > Last I knew, 1/10 of 1 Watt was the legal limit without licenses. Mr > Microphone probably fits into this category. If you guys want to do > what you are planning, just remember you probably have to break the law > to do it. Not really a big deal, just remember that you are. > -Matt Actually Matt, the legal limit set by the FCC Part 15 is 10 watts. Jor > [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1993 14:45:28 -0500 (EST) From: Alan Michael Parry Subject: --{HOM}-- Just one last reminder.... =) --Fluid [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1993 15:02:23 -0500 From: "a kid and his computer" Subject: Xochi Stack... Hey there. I haven't been on the list for a while, but I remember that right around the time I unsubscribed there was a lot of info being passed on 'e'. I've put "Xochi Stack" on media for anyone who wants more info. Its a really cool hypercard stack that has a lot of info about 'e' and LSD. My favorite things are the atomic models of 'e' and acid that appear on the screen. The only thing it lacks is more info on the long term effects, but I don't know of anywhere that has accurate info on this. Later days... Chris ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ cmellow@well.sf.ca.us "From now on all my writings are fish-hooks...If nothing got caught I am not to blame. There were no fish..." -Friedrich Nietzsche ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: pashdown@slack.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown) Subject: XDZebra Review #24 Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1993 13:15:51 -0700 (MST) XDZebra Review #24 I've got a stack of about twenty discs in the queue right now. Finals aren't helping much, but I'll attempt to get things out in a timely manner. Also, I've started to buy (horror of horrors) vinyl. Don't expect many reviews on that though, I don't think my work would take to me putting a 1200 in my office. Addiction 266 Delmar Ct. Salt Lake City, UT 84101-1817 When in Utah call the T A S T E hotline 801-461-3375. Trying to find these releases? Try Ear/Rational Music: FAX 805/893-8553, Phone 805/564-4949, email angst%cs@hub.ucsb.edu Back issues are available from me by mail or by ftp'ing to soda.berkeley.edu. They're in the pub/sfraves/music directory. This is all my opinion. Flames against a review are pretty pointless, so don't bother. Let me know if you have any other comments though. The number next to the index is the "dance factor". 5 = high, 1 = low XDZebra Reviews may be reproduced without permission under one condition, they remain intact and unchanged. If you publish this in print, mail me a copy via "Addiction". ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Review #24 Contents: The Irresistible Force: Flying High Frankfurt Trax Vol. 3: The House of Phuture GTO: Love is Everywhere Ragga Gabba Posse [Dr. Nunu] Go Bang! Volume 2 System 7: 7:7 Expansion In Order To Dance: 4 The Irresistible Force: Flying High Rising High Records: RSN CD5 1 07:42 Spiritual High 2 12:01 Sky High 3 15:33 Flying High 4 09:39 High Frequency 5 08:48 Symphony in E 6 20:04 Mountain High (Live) Comments: Done up in typical Irresistible Force ambient style (hold, pitch bend, echo, mutate), "Flying High" is wonderful listening. Although this album does dip into a beat periodically, most notably on "High Frequency" and "Symphony in E" it certainly isn't a dancefloor demolisher. There are times when this music tends to irritate me, but when I'm in the mood it locks perfectly and manages to drop my heart-beat a few levels. I'd like to see Irresistible Force put out some dancier stuff though. His track "Underground" is one of my favorites. Summary: 8/10. For the mind and spirit. Good variation in a single artist's ambience is rare, but Irresistible Force does it. Frankfurt Trax Vol. 3: The House of Phuture Dance Pool: DAN 472387 2 1 4 03:56 Ace the Space: 9 is a Classic (Ultimate Rave Remix) 2 4 03:57 KillerLoops: Murder One 3 3 04:10 T-Bone Castro: I Want Cha (Women Here Part 2) 4 3 03:59 R U Ready: Uaeth 2 5 5 04:18 Mescalinum United: The 2nd Coming 6 3 03:46 A Lighter Shade: I Start 2 Fly 7 5 03:49 Nasty Django: Ey Loco! 8 4 03:43 Turbulence: Disaster Area 9 5 03:13 The Mover: Comet's Swarm Rising 10 3 04:10 The Possessed: Black Blood 11 4 03:10 Terrorists: The Outside World 12 2 04:04 Dag Tribe: Legalize It! 13 5 03:54 Headshop: Floorlifter 14 3 04:00 Program 1: World's Famous MF (Fractured Skull Mix) 15 3 02:08 Stalker: Walk on Thunderground 16 3 03:26 303 Nation: DetoNation 17 2 02:40 Alien Christ: Of Suns and Moons (Phaze 4) Comments: While this compilation of Planet Core, Dance Extasy 2001, Pretty Asshole, and Super Special Corp artists contains some highly original and headsplitting tracks, they are offset by cheap hardcore that is just plain boring. On the up side, Mescalinum United, The Mover, A Lighter Shade, Nasty Django, Ace the Space, Headshop, and Turbulence. Absolute garbage is turned in by Dag Tribe, Stalker, 303 Nation, and Alien Christ. What a way to end what would have otherwise been a stellar collection of hardcore. Summary: 5/10. Hardcore fans will rate this higher, but I have a queezy stomach when a track is just a ten second repeat. GTO: Love is Everywhere NovaMute: NMCD 3004 1 5 06:29 Elevation (Troll Mix) 2 4 06:08 Love is Everywhere (Everybody Party Mix) 3 4 06:15 The Bullfrog (Dataflow Mix) 4 4 06:11 Elevation (Sonic Beat Mix) 5 5 05:52 Love is Everywhere (Love Parade) 6 3 05:45 Love is Everywhere (Live & Love Mix) 7 3 05:39 Pure Energy 8 4 04:42 Listen to the Rhythm Flow (Make Some Noise) Comments: More of an EP than album, GTO gives us three good mixes of the title track and fills the remaining space with mixes that don't stack up to the original singles. The "Troll Mix" of "Elevation" was included on the "Elevation" single, and is excellent, but played out. The included mixes of "The Bullfrog" and "Listen to the Rhythm Flow" long and uninspired. Finally, the "Pure Energy" makes you wonder if Newman & Wells were really behind it. It lacks everything that its title makes it out to be. Summary: 6/10. An excellent single with plenty of bonus tracks. Too bad it really is an album. Ragga Gabba Posse [Dr. Nunu] Thunderpussy: THP 2005-2 1 4 05:04 Raggatrance 2000 pt.1 2 4 05:04 Raggatrance 2000 pt.2 3 5 05:28 Zap Machine pt.1 4 5 05:27 Zap Machine pt.2 Comments: "Raggatrance" is reminiscent of some Fierce Ruling Diva material, and indeed usually mixes well into each other. "Zap Machine" kicks hard with a grooving guitar loop and a pumping beat. I don't know what to think about the pt.1 and pt.2 scheme though. The second parts are definitely not different enough to be called mixes, but I don't know why they just didn't merge them into one track with a bit more variety. Possibly because it would have looked like you were getting two tracks on a disc? Well, despite the break, that is all that you're getting. Summary: 6/10. Good music, but at a $10 import for essentially two tracks, not worth it. Go Bang! Volume 2 Go Bang!: BANG CD096 1 1 02:15 Shake Inc.: Deep in Space 2 3 04:57 Quazar: Paradise 3 4 05:15 Shake Inc.: Brain Induction 4 4 05:00 Penetration: Basic Penetration 5 5 06:11 Turtable Hype: Techno Nation (NY Rave Reverb) 6 3 03:44 Supermatic: Power of the Dark Side 7 4 05:14 Quazar: Red Alert 8 4 04:49 D-Shake: Tecn0 Bam (Seismic Wow Edit) 9 4 03:03 Supermatic: To Uncommunicate 10 3 03:19 Turntable Hype: Set You Free (S Ozone Mix) 11 3 04:35 Shake Inc.: Rubb-a-Dubb Freestyle 12 5 06:07 Quazar: Dragonfighters 13 5 05:50 D-Shake: East of Eden 14 00:37 Outtro Comments: A real mixed bag. A lot of these tracks tend to be very standard techno with no real progression. These are prime examples of what makes an initiate to the style stand back and state, "This all sounds the same." Yet tracks like D-Shake's and Quazars "Dragonfighters" are really quite good. The Shake Inc. stuff generally stinks, including yet another take on Luc Van Acker's "Its in My Brain Now" sample with "Brain Induction". Supermatic's stuff is plain and unmoving. Penetration provides a funky beat, but nothing new. Summary: 7/10. The poor stuff isn't terrible, but the good stuff is really great. System 7: 7:7 Expansion Weird and Unconventional/Big Life: BFLD 2 1 3 03:39 Conspiracy Edit 2 3 10:02 Conspiracy Mix 3 4 06:47 Nutritious Mix 4 1 10:10 Double Edge Sword Mix Comments: Steve Hillage, Youth, and Tony Thorpe produce a mildly dancey, strongly boring single for the upcoming System 7 album. Yes, it is a catchy guitar line Steve, and the the "huh-huh" sample fits beautifully, but what else is there? Tastes great, no filling. The "Nutrious Mix" almost makes it with some interesting breaks, but still isn't up to par with past System 7 work. "Double Edge Sword" takes things on yet another burbling brook, when-can-I-hear-the-theme-please ambient trip. There is an interesting turn about nine minutes into this mix, but it is quickly lost to more of the same. Summary: 4/10. I wouldn't be so down on this if it was $4 at a domestic price, but otherwise forget it. In Order To Dance: 4 R&S/BMG: 74321 122962 Disc 1: 1 4 07:05 Ramin vol. 2: Brainticket 2 3 04:55 C.J. Bolland: Nightbreed 3 5 04:00 N. R. G.: The Real Hardcore 4 4 05:06 Source: Neuromancer 5 4 04:52 House of Usher: Shades 6 3 05:46 DJ Hell: My Definition of House Music 7 4 05:08 Dave Angel: Bounce Back 8 5 05:30 Sven Van Hees: Emotional Rehabilitation 9 5 05:00 TC 1992: Funky Guitar 10 4 06:34 Phase Feat. Dr Motte: Der Klang der Familie 11 4 04:32 Phuture Past: Clinically Inclined (Remix) 12 3 07:15 Aphex Twin: Digeridoo 13 5 07:57 Neuro: Mama Disc 2: 1 3 07:03 Mundo Muzique: Andromeda 2 4 04:20 Minimal Vision: Magic Staircase 3 5 04:57 The Future Sound of London: Papua New Guinea 4 5 05:33 Electrotete: I Love You 5 3 06:28 Phuture: Rise From Your Grave 6 5 06:19 Jam & Spoon: Stella 7 4 04:46 Aphex Twin: Analog Bubblebath 8 3 10:06 The Infinite Wheel: Lake of Dreams 9 5 05:45 Piece: Free Your Mind 10 3 06:16 Rhythm Invention: Can't Take It 11 5 06:46 Music of Life Orchestra: The Dream 12 4 03:22 Jaydee: Plastic Dreams 13 5 05:11 Golden Girls: Kinetic Comments: Hands down, the best dance compilation I have ever bought. The most prime cuts of 1992 are on here. Even though I already have many of these on other compilations or singles, this brings the best all together. If you're looking for an introduction, buy this. If you're looking for a best of, buy this. The first disc is harder than the second disc, but they both cross zones with Neuro and Rhythm Invention. Highlighted is the excellent new mix of "I Love You" from Electrotete. They've managed to take what they did for Give Peace a Dance 2 and turn it into a stunning, moving, melodic masterpiece. One disappointment is DJ Hell's "My Definition of House Music" which rocked the charts, but is really only a simple remix of David Byrne's "Ava". I liked Jack Danger's version better. Byrne isn't credited anywhere. This isn't sampling, it is stealing. Also, "Digeridoo" sounds really weak for some reason. I think it is recorded at a slower speed. Summary: 10/10. $25-$28 is a steal for this kind of quality music. Makes other comps look like K-Tel. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: pashdown@slack.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown) Subject: XDZebra Review #24 Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1993 13:15:51 -0700 (MST) XDZebra Review #24 I've got a stack of about twenty discs in the queue right now. Finals aren't helping much, but I'll attempt to get things out in a timely manner. Also, I've started to buy (horror of horrors) vinyl. Don't expect many reviews on that though, I don't think my work would take to me putting a 1200 in my office. Addiction 266 Delmar Ct. Salt Lake City, UT 84101-1817 When in Utah call the T A S T E hotline 801-461-3375. Trying to find these releases? Try Ear/Rational Music: FAX 805/893-8553, Phone 805/564-4949, email angst%cs@hub.ucsb.edu Back issues are available from me by mail or by ftp'ing to soda.berkeley.edu. They're in the pub/sfraves/music directory. This is all my opinion. Flames against a review are pretty pointless, so don't bother. Let me know if you have any other comments though. The number next to the index is the "dance factor". 5 = high, 1 = low XDZebra Reviews may be reproduced without permission under one condition, they remain intact and unchanged. If you publish this in print, mail me a copy via "Addiction". ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Review #24 Contents: The Irresistible Force: Flying High Frankfurt Trax Vol. 3: The House of Phuture GTO: Love is Everywhere Ragga Gabba Posse [Dr. Nunu] Go Bang! Volume 2 System 7: 7:7 Expansion In Order To Dance: 4 The Irresistible Force: Flying High Rising High Records: RSN CD5 1 07:42 Spiritual High 2 12:01 Sky High 3 15:33 Flying High 4 09:39 High Frequency 5 08:48 Symphony in E 6 20:04 Mountain High (Live) Comments: Done up in typical Irresistible Force ambient style (hold, pitch bend, echo, mutate), "Flying High" is wonderful listening. Although this album does dip into a beat periodically, most notably on "High Frequency" and "Symphony in E" it certainly isn't a dancefloor demolisher. There are times when this music tends to irritate me, but when I'm in the mood it locks perfectly and manages to drop my heart-beat a few levels. I'd like to see Irresistible Force put out some dancier stuff though. His track "Underground" is one of my favorites. Summary: 8/10. For the mind and spirit. Good variation in a single artist's ambience is rare, but Irresistible Force does it. Frankfurt Trax Vol. 3: The House of Phuture Dance Pool: DAN 472387 2 1 4 03:56 Ace the Space: 9 is a Classic (Ultimate Rave Remix) 2 4 03:57 KillerLoops: Murder One 3 3 04:10 T-Bone Castro: I Want Cha (Women Here Part 2) 4 3 03:59 R U Ready: Uaeth 2 5 5 04:18 Mescalinum United: The 2nd Coming 6 3 03:46 A Lighter Shade: I Start 2 Fly 7 5 03:49 Nasty Django: Ey Loco! 8 4 03:43 Turbulence: Disaster Area 9 5 03:13 The Mover: Comet's Swarm Rising 10 3 04:10 The Possessed: Black Blood 11 4 03:10 Terrorists: The Outside World 12 2 04:04 Dag Tribe: Legalize It! 13 5 03:54 Headshop: Floorlifter 14 3 04:00 Program 1: World's Famous MF (Fractured Skull Mix) 15 3 02:08 Stalker: Walk on Thunderground 16 3 03:26 303 Nation: DetoNation 17 2 02:40 Alien Christ: Of Suns and Moons (Phaze 4) Comments: While this compilation of Planet Core, Dance Extasy 2001, Pretty Asshole, and Super Special Corp artists contains some highly original and headsplitting tracks, they are offset by cheap hardcore that is just plain boring. On the up side, Mescalinum United, The Mover, A Lighter Shade, Nasty Django, Ace the Space, Headshop, and Turbulence. Absolute garbage is turned in by Dag Tribe, Stalker, 303 Nation, and Alien Christ. What a way to end what would have otherwise been a stellar collection of hardcore. Summary: 5/10. Hardcore fans will rate this higher, but I have a queezy stomach when a track is just a ten second repeat. GTO: Love is Everywhere NovaMute: NMCD 3004 1 5 06:29 Elevation (Troll Mix) 2 4 06:08 Love is Everywhere (Everybody Party Mix) 3 4 06:15 The Bullfrog (Dataflow Mix) 4 4 06:11 Elevation (Sonic Beat Mix) 5 5 05:52 Love is Everywhere (Love Parade) 6 3 05:45 Love is Everywhere (Live & Love Mix) 7 3 05:39 Pure Energy 8 4 04:42 Listen to the Rhythm Flow (Make Some Noise) Comments: More of an EP than album, GTO gives us three good mixes of the title track and fills the remaining space with mixes that don't stack up to the original singles. The "Troll Mix" of "Elevation" was included on the "Elevation" single, and is excellent, but played out. The included mixes of "The Bullfrog" and "Listen to the Rhythm Flow" long and uninspired. Finally, the "Pure Energy" makes you wonder if Newman & Wells were really behind it. It lacks everything that its title makes it out to be. Summary: 6/10. An excellent single with plenty of bonus tracks. Too bad it really is an album. Ragga Gabba Posse [Dr. Nunu] Thunderpussy: THP 2005-2 1 4 05:04 Raggatrance 2000 pt.1 2 4 05:04 Raggatrance 2000 pt.2 3 5 05:28 Zap Machine pt.1 4 5 05:27 Zap Machine pt.2 Comments: "Raggatrance" is reminiscent of some Fierce Ruling Diva material, and indeed usually mixes well into each other. "Zap Machine" kicks hard with a grooving guitar loop and a pumping beat. I don't know what to think about the pt.1 and pt.2 scheme though. The second parts are definitely not different enough to be called mixes, but I don't know why they just didn't merge them into one track with a bit more variety. Possibly because it would have looked like you were getting two tracks on a disc? Well, despite the break, that is all that you're getting. Summary: 6/10. Good music, but at a $10 import for essentially two tracks, not worth it. Go Bang! Volume 2 Go Bang!: BANG CD096 1 1 02:15 Shake Inc.: Deep in Space 2 3 04:57 Quazar: Paradise 3 4 05:15 Shake Inc.: Brain Induction 4 4 05:00 Penetration: Basic Penetration 5 5 06:11 Turtable Hype: Techno Nation (NY Rave Reverb) 6 3 03:44 Supermatic: Power of the Dark Side 7 4 05:14 Quazar: Red Alert 8 4 04:49 D-Shake: Tecn0 Bam (Seismic Wow Edit) 9 4 03:03 Supermatic: To Uncommunicate 10 3 03:19 Turntable Hype: Set You Free (S Ozone Mix) 11 3 04:35 Shake Inc.: Rubb-a-Dubb Freestyle 12 5 06:07 Quazar: Dragonfighters 13 5 05:50 D-Shake: East of Eden 14 00:37 Outtro Comments: A real mixed bag. A lot of these tracks tend to be very standard techno with no real progression. These are prime examples of what makes an initiate to the style stand back and state, "This all sounds the same." Yet tracks like D-Shake's and Quazars "Dragonfighters" are really quite good. The Shake Inc. stuff generally stinks, including yet another take on Luc Van Acker's "Its in My Brain Now" sample with "Brain Induction". Supermatic's stuff is plain and unmoving. Penetration provides a funky beat, but nothing new. Summary: 7/10. The poor stuff isn't terrible, but the good stuff is really great. System 7: 7:7 Expansion Weird and Unconventional/Big Life: BFLD 2 1 3 03:39 Conspiracy Edit 2 3 10:02 Conspiracy Mix 3 4 06:47 Nutritious Mix 4 1 10:10 Double Edge Sword Mix Comments: Steve Hillage, Youth, and Tony Thorpe produce a mildly dancey, strongly boring single for the upcoming System 7 album. Yes, it is a catchy guitar line Steve, and the the "huh-huh" sample fits beautifully, but what else is there? Tastes great, no filling. The "Nutrious Mix" almost makes it with some interesting breaks, but still isn't up to par with past System 7 work. "Double Edge Sword" takes things on yet another burbling brook, when-can-I-hear-the-theme-please ambient trip. There is an interesting turn about nine minutes into this mix, but it is quickly lost to more of the same. Summary: 4/10. I wouldn't be so down on this if it was $4 at a domestic price, but otherwise forget it. In Order To Dance: 4 R&S/BMG: 74321 122962 Disc 1: 1 4 07:05 Ramin vol. 2: Brainticket 2 3 04:55 C.J. Bolland: Nightbreed 3 5 04:00 N. R. G.: The Real Hardcore 4 4 05:06 Source: Neuromancer 5 4 04:52 House of Usher: Shades 6 3 05:46 DJ Hell: My Definition of House Music 7 4 05:08 Dave Angel: Bounce Back 8 5 05:30 Sven Van Hees: Emotional Rehabilitation 9 5 05:00 TC 1992: Funky Guitar 10 4 06:34 Phase Feat. Dr Motte: Der Klang der Familie 11 4 04:32 Phuture Past: Clinically Inclined (Remix) 12 3 07:15 Aphex Twin: Digeridoo 13 5 07:57 Neuro: Mama Disc 2: 1 3 07:03 Mundo Muzique: Andromeda 2 4 04:20 Minimal Vision: Magic Staircase 3 5 04:57 The Future Sound of London: Papua New Guinea 4 5 05:33 Electrotete: I Love You 5 3 06:28 Phuture: Rise From Your Grave 6 5 06:19 Jam & Spoon: Stella 7 4 04:46 Aphex Twin: Analog Bubblebath 8 3 10:06 The Infinite Wheel: Lake of Dreams 9 5 05:45 Piece: Free Your Mind 10 3 06:16 Rhythm Invention: Can't Take It 11 5 06:46 Music of Life Orchestra: The Dream 12 4 03:22 Jaydee: Plastic Dreams 13 5 05:11 Golden Girls: Kinetic Comments: Hands down, the best dance compilation I have ever bought. The most prime cuts of 1992 are on here. Even though I already have many of these on other compilations or singles, this brings the best all together. If you're looking for an introduction, buy this. If you're looking for a best of, buy this. The first disc is harder than the second disc, but they both cross zones with Neuro and Rhythm Invention. Highlighted is the excellent new mix of "I Love You" from Electrotete. They've managed to take what they did for Give Peace a Dance 2 and turn it into a stunning, moving, melodic masterpiece. One disappointment is DJ Hell's "My Definition of House Music" which rocked the charts, but is really only a simple remix of David Byrne's "Ava". I liked Jack Danger's version better. Byrne isn't credited anywhere. This isn't sampling, it is stealing. Also, "Digeridoo" sounds really weak for some reason. I think it is recorded at a slower speed. Summary: 10/10. $25-$28 is a steal for this kind of quality music. Makes other comps look like K-Tel. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1993 14:18:03 -0500 (EST) From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: Fun idea..! (187- Mobile Live Techno Vibes) On Thu, 11 Mar 1993, Matthew Donald Drown wrote: > Excerpts from internet.ne-raves: 10-Mar-93 Re: Fun idea..! by bill > coderre@apple.com > > As for the legality of broadcasting: there is some confusion about how > > much power you are allowed to use, however, you do not need much power > > to fill a warehouse -- and the structure of the building will tend to > > Last I knew, 1/10 of 1 Watt was the legal limit without licenses. Mr > Microphone probably fits into this category. If you guys want to do > what you are planning, just remember you probably have to break the law > to do it. Not really a big deal, just remember that you are. > -Matt Actually Matt, the legal limit set by the FCC Part 15 is 10 watts. Jor > [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu (X) Subject: NEW ZINE SEEKING SUBMISSIONS Date: Thu, 11 Mar 93 12:07:10 MST Hello. My name is Andy Hawks, and I am the publisher of a new zine called "[the] Infinite Edge". Information about the zine follows, but for now I will give a quick overview of myself and the basic intentions of this new zine. For approximately two years now, I have been producing, electronically, a text file entitled The FutureCulture FAQ. This message is intended to be spread electronically, primarily, so I am sure many will be aware of the jargon used here. But for those that are not, FAQ stands for Frequently Asked Questions and is a guide or handbook if you will. My FutureCulture FAQ file then, pertains to varying aspects of, as the name implies, culture in the future. This file arose out of an interest primarily in cyberpunk fiction, particularly the idea that "cyberpunk is really about the present". [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1993 18:58:41 -0500 (EST) From: Alan Michael Parry Subject: Re: Xochi Stack... On Thu, 11 Mar 1993, a kid and his computer wrote: > I've put "Xochi Stack" on media for anyone who wants more info. Its a really > cool hypercard stack that has a lot of info about 'e' and LSD. My favorite > things are the atomic models of 'e' and acid that appear on the screen. does anybody out there know how to view this thing? I got the file from media-lab but im not sure what to do with it now. I think some kind of converter might be needed... --Fluid [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1993 19:29:44 -0500 From: "a kid and his computer" Subject: Re: Xochi Stack... In message Alan Michael Parry writes: > > > does anybody out there know how to view this thing? I got the file from > media-lab but im not sure what to do with it now. I think some kind of > converter might be needed... > > --Fluid If you don't have a mac, take it to someone who does and they'll play it for ya. Hypercard is a macintosh program, I don't think you can use 'em on IBM's. Its Binhex, too so make sure your ftp prog. converts it out of binhex. That's about all there is to it! Bye Chris ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ cmellow@well.sf.ca.us "From now on all my writings are fish-hooks...If nothing got caught I am not to blame. There were no fish..." -Friedrich Nietzsche ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1993 20:19:22 -0500 (EST) From: colombene Subject: hey anyone here at blue? the rhode island event taking place somwhere around feb. 13th. didya catch the orgiastic pit of fury? did your glassies fixate on those beatific erotic souls entwined to the loving bass. curly man and random girl groping in extasy. yes?yes? yeeess yeessss! at atlantis too perhaps? ne-ravers they are not, yet the spirit is in their hearts. it was their first time. mem-o-reees. are they converted? perhaps, we shall see... they're superstars, from harvard no less. what the fuck is this you might ask, an ad for a cheesey new movie. perhaps a new sociological test case, a subject for a thesis no my brothers and ever loving sisters, this is the real thing. only slightly esoteric perhaps. see you all at atlantis? aqua fraternally yours> bene [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: Kristine Carrol Noel Subject: WPI posse invites you... Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1993 21:50:41 -0500 (EST) hey guys... this is becca and donutz here from kris's account...and we are inviting y'all to our little *function* tomorrow nite here in psychedelic woostahh! we got some dj's: dieselBoy (headlining) donutz (footlining) Al-X (from Cleveland!!!!) ApplePie??(call us here at kris's place) Overload??(dieselBoy's workin on it...) but....there's a catch...its gonna be an earlier thing...but you all can always head to rise after :) we got a function room here at our school so we can only have it from 8:00 pm to 1:00 am (well, we're gonna try to stretch that one ;) ) but you should all come!!! to experience the woooooooooostah vibes (hahahaha) here's the deal...write or call donutz (9:00am - 6:00pm) for directions: call@ (508)870-0300 ext. 241 or mail@ donato@applix.com otherwise, if you decide you wanna know more about this not during those friday hours... write to kcn@wpi.wpi.edu :) don't miss out on your chance to hear the UNDERGROUND grooves! see you there!! becca bones donutz dieselBoy [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 11 Mar 1993 22:15:18 -0400 (EDT) From: an excursion through technospace Subject: NE-RAVES PIKNIK!!!! when: april 17th approx noonish...1pm ish... to: ???? whenever where: central park, NYC.. (exact location will be figured out the weekend before, when i visit there with tina to find a spot..:) ) so.. april 17th it is.. if you can make it.. great....everyone should try to bring some food an/or drink. blankets.. toys...whatever...i'll post the exact location and further details as we approach the event. i don't know yet if there will be a rave that night.. who knows...i cannot be responsible for housing people that night or anything...'cos my apartment is just too small.. if someone else in the area wants to have a continuation party after the picnic, that would be cool.. but.. all that "i" am planning is the picnic. we'll all hang out.. and have a beautiful beautiful time. *** parking is always a problem in NYC... the more carpools the better. hopefully 1pm won't be too early.. i guess people will have to wake up early .. but.. i don't want it to get dark before we even start. *** if anyone is driving from afar..(damian, dave miller..ohio posse..) then let me know so we can work on arrival times... **** this is by no means a BIG production...it's only a gathering for a few hours...who knows if there will be a rave that night...some kind of party somewhere at night would be nice to make the drive more worth it.. but..i'm not in the position to hold such an event.. so... ne-ravers.. if you want to come down for a simple, fun picnic with all of our great friends.. then shit.. drive on down on saturday the 17th... {{ gJ^K(GvyM[me [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 12 Mar 1993 01:59:16 -0400 (EDT) From: an excursion through technospace Subject: NE-RAVES PIKNIK PT. II phew... gotta love call waiting... anyway.. sorry about that unfinished post.. all i had left to say was that i'd appreciate it if people could RSVP to me.. let me know who will be there.. so i can post it all to the list.. and we can all expect who to see! i guess that's about it for now. i will post the exact location (street #.. and what not) after april 10th. mm.. hope to see lots of you there! peace >>taylor.trance.808 [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 12 Mar 1993 02:22:14 -0400 (EDT) From: an excursion through technospace Subject: april 17th / piknik stuff hey.. i just remembered.. that the GRIN rave is on april 17th! is that in maine? mm... i'd be up for going! should we add that to the evening's roster??? i think so!!! lovetrance >>taylor.808 [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 12 Mar 1993 02:41:56 -0400 (EDT) From: LEAVE NO TURN UNSTONED Subject: RoM update a joint effort brought to you by NE-RAVES, MINDCANDY, and FUZZY LOGIC prepare yourselves for.... F R O S T E D R A V E June 26th [1 week after ravestock] 3000 ravers expected Surprise DJ list/live acts to be announced Location: east-coast TBA tickets will be $15 strictly advance sale only. Discount prices for members of NE-Raves,Mindcandy, and Fuzzy Logic are available [see below] Made for people who party by people who party. This is our rave! Members of NE-R/MC/FL can purchase tickets for $5 donations. These discount tickets will help us cover start up costs and must be recieved by the end of May. The discount tickets are available only to the first 300 people who send for them. Ticket orders can be sent to me [Tarek Elnaccash 55e 10th st rm 1507 Ny,NY 10003 ] Flyers for this event/regular tickets will be available soon at record stores around [complete info will be listed soon]. If you don't want to wait send your flyer request to: M I N D C A N D Y c/o Vitamin Love 111 Hackensack Plank Rd Wee. N.J. 07087 Anybody requesting the flyers will recieve a free copy of the MINDCANDY rave newsletter (aprox. 20 pages). Peace to all Ravers FROSTED RAVE will be the first collaboration of the three Techno-Tribes. The unification of the REAL RAVERS. "Oh Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa "Oh Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!" -Moby ("thousand") Peace Pce and love, more info L8R, TE [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Subject: did any by say they could do that? From: revar@mindvox.phantom.com (chuck fletcher) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 93 09:24:59 EST did anybody give the go a head for us representing the frosty rave(fuzzy logik and ne-raves) wow were being co opted how cool and i only thought that happened to people like frankie bones(i didnt know i was on the flyer) anyway i guess its cool as long as my phone# doesnt end up on the flyer(home # that is). the fuzzy # is ok 925-4117. chuck revar [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 12 Mar 1993 10:35:51 -0400 (EDT) From: an excursion through technospace Subject: grin/picnic mm... perhaps people will not want to drive so much to NYC, to maine..etc... all at once.. :( well.. i'll just see how many people wanna to to the picnic.. and then figure it out.. >>taylor.808 [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1993 13:26:28 -0500 From: ajackson Subject: Unsubscribe Please remove me from this list. AJAX [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Fri, 12 Mar 93 14:16:13 EST From: damian@cislabs.pitt.edu Subject: A reminder to all of you Hey! You better not pass up this thing going on here in Woostah tonight! If you do then we'll revoke your account! Djs and fun/happy/stoopid people to make it worth your while. Dont make us beg.... For more info call Dj Donatso @ 508-870-0300 ext 241 or Kris @ 508-791-4663 Thank you, dieselBoy -- GOOD T-SHIRT IDEA!! "I went to a Catastrophic rave and all I got was a lousy 40 oz" [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1993 14:50:27 -0500 (EST) From: Alan Michael Parry Subject: SMALLEST HOOKUP-O-MATIC EVER! ========================================================================== HOOKUP-O-MATIC FOR 3/13 ========================================================================== Okay boys and girls, here is the tiny, tiny, HOM for this weekend. Nobody seems to be doing much of anything this week but I hope to see some of you around next weekend for ULTRAWORLD 5 and the following weekend for TRIPTRONICS SENSORY OVERLOAD. Have fun, be good =) - Fluid ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Saturday, March 13th ENCHANTED REALITY Baltimore MD. INFO# (410) 880 7144 DJs| Micro (LI), Onionz (LI), Sameer (LI), Ryde (NJ), Scott Henry (DC), DJ Who (Balt), Tony Pegas (Balt), MasterNate (DC). - Mike Roberts (proton@wam.umd.edu) * ne-raves badge ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thats it.... -Fluid [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Fri, 12 Mar 93 15:24:13 -0500 From: brendan mcdougall Subject: Re: UK-DANCE digest 66 Hi I went to Bro last week end in NYC and it was a blast albeit not a true scene. Too, I was surprised to hear that NE-Ravers were there and I didn't bump into them :( . ORB was supposed to play, but he didn't hence the transliteration--BRO. The cool thing was that in the CHILL room they were playing jazzy hip-hop. I hadn't really listened to that genre 'cuz limited airplay, etc. in the Boston area. In fact, my first exposure was on a Sunday morning news show featuring a rapper mixing with old jazz stars and their music. I was surprised at how friendly the sound/lyrics were given ganster rap. Anyway I bought Digable Planets, at FACE recommendation. I'm very pleased with the purchase and seems to me this disc is jazzy hip-hop and very appropriate for Chill scenes. Just my 1/2 p or $.02 : ) Brendan [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Fri, 12 Mar 93 15:28:04 -0500 From: brendan mcdougall Subject: Re: grin/picnic I know. Grin sounds like fun. too, to dance by the ocean....mmmmmm. Perhaps the thing to do is to move it somewhere else--Boston Common, NH along the way to Maine for a pre-rave BBQ. Or pick another weekend. Or just leave it the way it is! Gee Taylor, just like you said. You add enough variables and suddenly things become very difficult! Just do it, Brendan [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 12 Mar 93 15:53:00 EST From: "John Speakman" Subject: Re: Smallest h-o-m ever Hiya! typical eh, the week I come out of hiding, none of you are playing out and it's going to snow about a million feet in New York tomorrow.... Don't care, we're going anyway... John "grinch" Speakman. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Fri, 12 Mar 93 16:04:44 -0500 From: brendan mcdougall Subject: SURVEY SAYS... Hi, I just wanted to say something about the negative posts regarding the survey as there were no reponses from the other side. I think that there are a spectrum of opinions on this issue that are all valid in varying degrees. For example, I would take the responses to the survey as people who do not object to the survey. Thusfar the pros outweigh the cons. If you thought about responding to the survey I think you should and that it is valuable in its own right. I understand the reservations some might have regarding this survey based on how the media *portrays* the scene. For example, there was a photographer at BRO who was capturing some of the extremes that Chuck hit on--nude dancer, people obviously messed up. I can hardly wait to see that photo on the cover of Newsday or Newsweek...NOT! I'm not sure how much we need to fear the media on the net at this time--see Wired's introduction. I do think that people intelligent enough to reach us on the net and interview us are intelligent enough to not carelessly interject much of their pre-existing perspective in the results. At this time, I am more in favor of the survey as it is an attempt to critically review the scene rather than base an article on sensationalistic impressions. Too, I'd rather have the input and influence how the scene is perceived by non-ravers. I'll wait to see the article before I pass final judgement as we will all have a final view of the article. People dance to the pen as well as the groove. Best regards, Brendan [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Fri, 12 Mar 93 16:10:53 EST From: Aaron Leavey Subject: Re: UK-DANCE digest 66 >Anyway I bought Digable Planets, at FACE recommendation. I'm very >pleased with the purchase and seems to me this disc is jazzy hip-hop >and very appropriate for Chill scenes. >Just my 1/2 p or $.02 : ) >Brendan I have had that disc for a while and it is great for just that the Chill scenes and relaxing. They are going to be act to look out for. PeAcE. -aaron- [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: ebh@mink.att.com Subject: Re: SURVEY SAYS... Date: Fri, 12 Mar 93 16:43:06 EST [At the risk of starting another meta-discussion...] > If you thought about responding to the survey I think you should and > that it is valuable in its own right. Agreed. Presuming that the questioner would have obtained [mis]infor- mation about the scene *somewhere* if not here, which would you prefer to be relayed to the mainstream media, a view of the rave scene as described by the subset {Ravers Who Respond To Net Surveys}, or a view of the rave scene as described by the subset {Toontown and Storm Pro- moters}, or a view of the rave scene as described by the subset {}? -Ed [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1993 18:49:15 -0500 From: Zach Eitzen Subject: Digable Planets I got their CD a while ago also and I'll chime in with the positive recommendations. It is definitely different from most hip-hop being made today. They are also very good live. I saw them last night at the 9:30 club in DC and they had a live drummer, stand-up bass player, sax player and trumpeter as well as their DJ, King Britt. They did quite a bit of improvisation and generally messed around with the songs a bit to good effect. Check them out if they hit your area. Zach [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Fri, 12 Mar 93 21:39:25 -0500 From: fort@husc.harvard.edu Subject: Breakbeat CD's Heya, does anybody have any recommendations on relatively cheap breakbeat music compilations? I bought "Best of Techno 3," and it's pretty good! I especially liked ACEN's Trip to the Moon - it has my vote for the best techno song (for now). Anyhow, I was wondering if anyone can recomend some CDs that have tracks of this sort. Thanx for the help! -Pete I feel the music ..... it's in my brain Just close your eyes ....and go insane! [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1993 00:39:00 -0500 From: greg.ipp@rose.com Subject: Re: Breakbeat CD's Date Entered: 03-13-93 00:32 > > Heya, > > does anybody have any recommendations on relatively cheap breakbeat > music compilations? I bought "Best of Techno 3," and it's pretty good! > I especially liked ACEN's Trip to the Moon - it has my vote for the best > techno song (for now). Anyhow, I was wondering if anyone can recomend some > CDs that have tracks of this sort. > I risked $13 on a comp. at the local mall (!) a little while ago. It's pure '92 breakbeat/hardcore stuff. Not much in the way of trance, and nothing close to sounding ambient. Track listing, etc: Too Technocal Two: The Second Rave (SPG-CS-1203) 1. Walking in Memphis (Rave Mix) [4:57] MEMPHIS RAVE MAFIA 2. The Age of Love (Jam & Spoon Mix) [3:56] THE AGE OF LOVE 3. Trip II The Moon - Pt. 2 [6:20] ACEN 4. Hypnosis (SL2 Mix) [5:13] PSYCHOTROPIC 5. Skin Teeth [6:30] NOISE FACTORY 6. Roughneck [5:56] PROJECT 1 7. Stakker Humanoid (Smart System Remix) [4:52] HUMANOID 8. Future Sound (2 Bad Mice Remix) [6:02] PHUTURE ASSASINS 9. UK Weed (Techno Puff Mix) [5:35] A/SIDES 10. Crazy For Your Love [4:50] RUFIGE CRU 11. World Famous Killer (Malice Afore Thought) [4:15] ZERO ZERO 12. A Trip to Trumpton (ClubVersion) [4:53] URBAN HYPE 13. Disintegrate 2 [4:40] SUB BASS 14. The House is Mine '92 (Dark Syndicut Remix) [6:09] THE HYPNOTIST 15. Hold it Down (Remix) [4:58] 2 BAD MICE Most of the songs are really good; some may be played out, but this comp. is one of the better ones I've run into (for this type of music). I specifically recommend _Hypnosis_ and _A Trip to Trumpton_, if you like ACEN-type stuff. You'll be able to find these tunes elsewhere if you can't locate this comp. -- it's local (they thank a bunch of Toronto DJs, as well as PleasureForce and Adrenalin in the liner notes). Also, a note to Psychotropic fans: if you're willing to face the weather conditions, they'll be playing at Hypnotic Justice this Saturday (there was a mention of it on RoM). The PleasureForce rave line is (416)760-3232 for more info. (A foot of snow won't stop me from being there, I hope...). > Thanx for the help! > > -Pete > > I feel the music ..... it's in my brain > Just close your eyes ....and go insane! > greg.ipp@rose.com / rev@cibbs.uucp --- RoseReader 2.00 P001297: "Stuck in a floaty whirlpool..." RoseMail 2.00 : RoseNet<=>Usenet Gateway : Rose Media 416-733-2285 [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 13 Mar 1993 03:31:52 -0400 (EDT) From: "IT'S FUN TO TAKE A TRIP..." Subject: FROSTED RAVE! Hey somebody [ Laibach, i believe] pointed out to me that there's no need to use the post office when we have modern technology at our disposal. If you would like a flyer for our FROSTED RAVE and a free issue of MINDCANDY just e-mail me your return address and you'll be sent the info [the flyers will be printed up in about 1 week or so- so be it may be a bit before stuff is mailed out] twe5495@acfcluster.nyu.edu warm blankets to everyone, Tarek [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: dionf@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Francois Dion) Subject: Re: Montreal info request Date: Sat, 13 Mar 93 11:47:02 EST Beyond the ultraworld of KPLEECH@amherst.edu: > > hello nE's.... > I'll be in Montreal starting Monday night and staying through the weekend, > which means unfortunately i'll be missing the intriging and risky Atlantis. > However, i'd like to know if anyone has any recommends about Montreal rave > culture: nightclubs, bars, raves, whatever. Any industrial infor would be > cool as well. Hell, anywhere I can have a good time will do. THIS INFO IS FOR EVERYBODY GOING TO MONTREAL: When in Montreal call the Raving Up North info line: (514)671-4933 This is a service i give to the Montreal ravers. I also maintain a mailing list for Montreal raves which is called Raving Up North. This monday TRANCE 5000 is coming out (a magasine on the rave scene), and there is also a rave going on the 20th, but the best weekend will be on the 26th and 27th where you'll have 3 djs + 1 vj + band on the 26th and 2 rooms, 7 djs + deco + cybersonik on the 27th. You can also tune in to 89,3 FM on friday nights (10pm till 3 am for info on the techno/rave/house/industrial scene (my show and another one just after that). Also on monday nights at 1 am (actually tuesday morning) till 4 am there is a show that plays techno on 90,3 FM. Last, as soon as i catch up with my 453 messages, i will post more information. Ciao, -- Francois Dion ' _ _ _ CISM (_) (_) _) FM Montreal , Canada Email: CISM@ERE.UMontreal.CA (_) / . _) 10000 Watts Telephone no: (514) 343-7511 _______________________________________________________________________________ Audio-C-DJ-Fractals-Future-Label-Multimedia-Music-Radio-Rave-Video-VR-Volvo-... [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Subject: EnchantEd rEality From: humphrey@unity.ncsu.edu Date: Sat, 13 Mar 93 13:06:10 EST ---------- Missed the H-O-M because I didn't know I was going to be in Baltimore untill recently, But I will be at ENCHANTED REALITY tonight wearing (as usual) my black lollipop shirt (long sleeve) and have a green backpack and probably my police mind machine. (look for the blinking eyes). I'll be looking for badges but since I still don't have one, I won't be wearing it. Support the Underground. |\ . ______ * __John Rainbow Humphrey__ | \ _ | | + john_humphrey@ncsu.edu + <--personal mail here | \ _ | | - + humphrey@unity.ncsu.edu + <--or here | \ | | - + jrhumphr@eos.ncsu.edu + |e___\ |______|/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1993 13:06 EDT From: LKB Subject: The Survey It seems that the questionnaire I sent out has sparked some controversy so I just wanted to explain why I am interested. I am taking a graduate course in feminist research and part of this is learning different research methods. I wasintroduced to the Rave scene about a month ago, so when I found out that I had to do a sociological study which looked at issues of race, class, gender, sexual identity, etc. I decided to examine the Rave scene because it seems to be one of the few arenas where those issues do not create social barricades. Asa feminist and a political activist I wanted to examine what are the elements that make the Rave scene such an open and non-discriminating atmosphere. I havemy own answers to the questions which I sent out based on my Rave experiences, but I am interested in hearing other people's opinions. The reason that I did not give this background in my original message is that I did not want people giving answers based upon their perception of my politics. As far as this turning into an article, someone starting a new Rave 'zine was interested in seeing the finished product and perhaps using it. For the record, most of the people who answered the survey liked the quesitions. I realize that some of thequestions seemed silly, but from my understanding, sociologists often ask things which are not readily obvious. I hope that I did not offend anyone and Iwill be happy to let anyone read the paper who is interested. Lu [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: Kristine Carrol Noel Subject: Wooostah Gathering of the vibes Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1993 16:04:53 -0500 (EST) Hi! Kat in Da Hat and Becca here!!! *WOW*!! Thanks to everyone who made it in last night to make our party killer!! It was cool meeting Brendan and his friend, Kreig "Mr. sparklE :)" and OVERLOAD!!! :) Neith, Johnny, Jesse, Oz, Apple Pie, (all the way from 'York!) Mike Tintinabuwitz :) and The Pitt Posse of dieselBoy, Bishop and Sooper Hadcoah Al-X from Cleveland!! And of course, our favorite, DONUTS with his ultracool 1200's!!! :) EVERYONE helped the cozy vibe :) well, our little *function* did go a bit longer than anticipated, as our 4 dj's spun into the wee hours of the morning...kat had to call campus police to lock up the room at 5:30 am...man, were they fucking confused!!! heheheheh i guess it's our little secret from them :) i dont know what to say! Overload and dieselBoy started the evening off once we finally got set up around 9:30. Their "battle of the spinmaster" was mindblowing! They were switching every 3 songs playing all their new stuff. That went on for about 3 hours, then Al-X kicked in with some Hadcoah to get us goin'. Then ApplePie showed up and did his set, then it was back to Damian and Shawn!! I (Kat) kept looking for the campus police cuz they were supposed to lock up at 1, but the only cop around just walked thru the room and left!! So on it continued till the wee hours of the morning. Eventhough sometimes we didn't dance that much, it was still entertaining from our little coloring area!! A black light, a pad of paper, and a box of fluorescent crayons are a must for any gathering!! :) Thanks to our other special entertainments of the evening...Becca's Fruitstripe gum, Brendan's Smarties, and the drunk girl from the party upstairs who taught Donato how to dance and all of us how to REALLY, no she means REALLLY, enjoy the lights. :) Hahahahah!! We have PICTURES, Donutz!:) Finishing off the morning with a trip to Denny's were the Real-HAdcoas, Becca, Damian, Johnny and Shawn. We easily convinced Shawn to drive...he was a bit more awake than the rest of us...it was fun. not too much to say about it, except that the waitress did call sean a "pain in the ass" because she had to keep bringing him new little things to go along with his meal :) so then shawn dropped us off back at home...and we wemt to sleep and that was that :) so thanks again to all who made this possible... :) you guys are all great!!! later guys :) kat in da hat and becca [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Sat, 13 Mar 93 20:55:36 -0500 From: kzimmerman@eagle.wesleyan.edu Subject: eating onionz on March 27th yoyoyoyoyoyo i was just wondering how Onionz is going to fly at the speed of light and dj three events on March 27th DNA, Green Eggs and Ham and Dune someone explain to me his remarkable and seemingly impossible powers which surely must explain his skill at djing or else get ahold of him or someone else who would know... THE REEL DEEL. Pensive and Pockmarked, Poseur SparklE. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1993 15:18 EST From: mr sparklE Subject: HOLD up! WAITAMINNIT okay Tareq, i see you're eager to become Frankie Bones, but can I point something out? wheen did you feel you were able to represent Ne-Raves and Fuzzy Logik? When UT threw Massive Dose, I didn't feel I could just slap NE-rAves on the flyer and represent them (not to say the thought didnt occur it just seemed rude and unimportant) as if I was a voice. I'm not telling you you can't throw a rave, I'm just questioning your motives and character for comin out of nowhere. Who died and left you as listadmin? BTW i have no clue what Mind Candy is except I recognize the name. Deliberately provocative, Mr. Spah-kuhl [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Sun, 14 Mar 93 12:14:49 -0500 From: kzimmerman@eagle.wesleyan.edu Subject: oh fukkit since everyone's jumpin down my throat tryin to figure out what quirk of my vocal cords would question Tareq i think ill shut up now its not that i care too much its just that well blah i dunno so i tried to DO THA RIGHT THANG so: :b *thhhhhppphhhttt* immature and irreconcilable, Poseur SparklE [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 14-MAR-1993 13:43:48.92 From: mr sparklE Subject: ct is hell X-VMS-News: eagle.wesleyan.edu alt.rave:7772 From: da653@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jonathan Eric Lewis) Subject:ct is hell Date: 11 Mar 1993 00:21:38 GMT Message-ID:<1nm0miINNkmd@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> living here in central ct, i have known about the rave scene for a long ti me but there's no raving going 'round here, is there? I heard something about a rave in the basement of the colt building in HARTFORD and a small er rave at a roller-skating rink in VERNON - but that's all. Sure there are "TECHNO" nights at clubs, but who wants to go to WATERBURY to listen to rave ata holiday inn ? NO THANKS!!! First nd Foremost the people here are so cheesy and conservative - no offense to anybody at WES U or YALE - and t he sad thing is that if raving hits CT rave will be essentially dead. Read TS ELIOT's WASTELAND. Gertude Stein. Get the idea? "There was once a future for the working man." - ERASURE If you are a bored CT raver e-mail me please......... Jon-Eric Lewis Central Ct. Sate U. >>sparkle.dismember.the.body m u t i l a t e d e s t r o y n i h i l i s m [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1993 14:35:34 -0500 (EST) From: mike perkowitz Subject: pictures. what? AGAIN? ;) okay. here's a list of pictures i have. do with this info what you will. i'll be getting prints in a few days and hopefully shooting the best ones up on some FTP site... if you're interested in prints, let me know - i've found a place that will do them for 35-40 cents a print. anyway, i'm going to rate each picture first on how well it came out (technically) and then on how good a picture i think it is overall (i.e. are people's eyes closed, are their heads cut off, is it "artistic") roll 1 - black and white pics from wonderland: 1. one of the lighting guys dancing (7/6) 3. donato in silhouette (blurry hands) (3/3) 8. some guy in the stripey lights (8/9) 9. shannon, head down (8/6) 13. people dancin' (7/6) 16. shannon, ciamac, becca (8/6) 18. people in silhouette under a spotlight (6/8) 27. shannon groovin' (9/9) 35. people dancin' under a spotlight (8/8) roll 2 - color pics from blue/massive weekend 3. people under colored lights (8/6) 4. jesse? and others in silhouette against laser, lights (6/5) 5. people in silhouette against a spotlight (6/3) 6. silhouette against lasers (6/3) 7. silhouettes against lasers (6/5) 8. people dancin' under a red light (7/7) 9. dave (sklar) and others dancin' (7/6) 11. lasers, lights, people (8/8) 13. apple pie at donato's (3/3) 14. same (spinning) (4/4) 19. mikey (battaglia)? at donato's u under a blacklight (5/3) 20. dieselToy spinning at donato's (8/9) 21. ditto (8/8) 22. donato and kris dancin' in doanto's basement (7/7) roll 3 - color pics from massive weekend 0. neith eating lunch (6/6) 1. apple pie balancing a ball on his head (8/7) 2. mr. sparkle spinnin' at MD (8/7) 3. ditto (8/5) 4. ditto (8/7) 5. becca & kris (6/8) 6. dieselBoy spinnin' (9/9) 7. ditto (8/7) 8. apple pie, oz (8/8) 9. mikey battaglia (8/7) 10. kris (8/7) 11. kris and a friend (8/7) 12. bonnie (8/8) 13. laura (going to hahdcoah :) (8/6) 15. taylor covering his face :( (8/3) 16. people silhouetted against red-lit fog (8/8) 17. some people (7/5) 18. donato, taylor (8/8) 19. people silhouetted against lights (6/7) 20. people in color-lit fog (8/9) 22. kreig (8/8) 23. someone silhouetted against the oil display (8/9) 24. ditto (8/9) 25. shannon going crazy (6/8) 26. some people under red/green lights (5/6) 27. someone dancing (7/7) 28. polida (8/8) 29. damian (8/7) 30. taylor playing (at the after hours) (8/8) 31. taylor and dietrich playing (5/5) 32. ditto (8/8) 34. people in blacklight and red light (6/8) 36. ditto (7/8) mike ----------------------------------------------------------------- t i n t i n n a b u l a t i o n Mike Perkowitz map@cs.brown.edu ----------------------------------------------------------------- [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1993 14:54:41 -0500 (EST) From: mike perkowitz Subject: yummy pasta/noodle recipe! here's a recipe for sesame noodles. it's what i brought to the pre-blue dinner at chez neith... ObRave - pasta is good if you're going to be dancing all night because of all those complex carbohydrates, so here's an alternative to spaghetti and tomato sauce. 1 pound noodles or pasta (i've used vermicelli, buckwheat noodles, and whole wheat spaghetti) 3 tbl smooth peanut butter 1 tbl sesame oil 2 tbl soy sauce 1 tbl chinese black vinegar 1 tbl szechuan chili sauce 1/4 cup water 2 tbl sesame seeds, toasted in a dry skillet cook noodles/pasta. meanwhile mix all the other ingredients except for the sesame seeds. drain the pasta with cold water. toss the pasta with the sauce immediately. sprinle with the sesame seeds. serve hot or cold (i prefer cold, as it was originally intended). don't worry about having to buy all those things just to get 1 or 2 tablespoons. they're all really handy for stir-frying and flavoring. except maybe the sesame seeds. skip them if you want... enjoy mike ----------------------------------------------------------------- t i n t i n n a b u l a t i o n Mike Perkowitz map@cs.brown.edu ----------------------------------------------------------------- [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Subject: Anyone...Anyone...Anyone Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1993 15:08:42 -0500 (EST) From: Ben Jaffe Did anyone go out this weekend, or was the "storm of the century" too much to handle? later, peace! (increase it) -ben [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1993 16:23:51 -0500 (EST) From: mike perkowitz Subject: Woostah MicroRave who said you need fire-eaters, 3000 people, lasers, a strobe light, multi- color flyers, and a list of DJs three miles long to rave? microrave hit worcester once again this weekend and it was great. attendance could be counted on fingers and toes - donato, kris, becca, jesse, john, neith, dieselboy, apple pie, oz, overload, alex, jason, brendan, leslie, me, and the occasional drunken visitor... once we got set up (tips for future microraves - everybody bring all the cables, munchies, and extension cords you can get your hands on), dieselToy and overload played tag-team DJ for three hours or so, trading off every few tracks. then (and i was ready for it by this time) alex spun some real spinning-around, hopping-up-and-down ;) hardcore. then apple pie brought on some of his hard trance, and then it was back to the tag-team. it was all pretty amazing. i had fun dancing, watching the cross-fader tricks... too bad dj donutz didn't have a chance to spin some of his happy house - would have rounded out a nice selection of stuff... requirement for future raves and microraves - a table with paper, a blacklight, and fluorescent crayons and markers. particularly with alex's crazy people and neith's flowery jungle, it was a fluorescent glowing trip. snappytarts crayon-dust body decor look at the lights strobe chandeliers (it's got a sequencer on it!) sooper wacky donato's drunken friend ;) ... so when's the next one, all you worcesterites? that site was great, though i suppose it might be harder to go until 5:30 am when school's actually going on and people are trying to sleep... i recommend everyone start trying these things. it's a great chance to do something that combines raving and really being able to hang out in a nice intimate atmosphere without all the headaches of a 3000-person (or 300-person even) gen-u-ine rave. mike ----------------------------------------------------------------- t i n t i n n a b u l a t i o n Mike Perkowitz map@cs.brown.edu ----------------------------------------------------------------- [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: Jesse Brook McCune Subject: Re: Woostah MicroRave Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1993 16:32:28 -0500 (EST) yeah...it was a lot of fun...nothing but happiness in the place...lovely... :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) if anyone else is thinking about doing this, though, remember...don't plan too much or it'll just fall through...everyone's been saying it...believe it...just let it happen ;) Live on...love on...rave on... -Sunshine ============================================================================== | I am Sunshine... || I am the boy who made her heart || Jesse B McCune | | @ @ || feel happy, and shines like the sun! || WPI Box 609 | | \_/ ||======================================|| Worcester, MA | | on a cloudy day! || mccune@wpi.wpi.edu PH#:(508)791-3345 || 01609 | ============================================================================== I NEEEEEEEEEEED your lovin'... [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1993 16:52:33 -0500 (EST) From: mike perkowitz Subject: Re: Anyone...Anyone...Anyone On Sun, 14 Mar 1993, Ben Jaffe wrote: > Did anyone go out this weekend, or was the "storm of the century" > too much to handle? later, well, see my review of the WMR... and last night was a fun night on vrave... such a snowy weekend was a good time for not going long distances to big raves, i would say, and for enjoying the ol' virtual rave... :) mike [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1993 16:55:27 -0500 (EST) From: mike perkowitz Subject: Re: Woostah MicroRave On Sun, 14 Mar 1993, Jesse Brook McCune wrote: > if anyone else is thinking about doing this, though, remember...don't plan too > much or it'll just fall through...everyone's been saying it...believe it...just > let it happen ;) it's true. definitely true. if you take it too seriously, i think, you worry too much about whether it will work, and that can mess up the vibe... you don't need to get it perfect... better to just send out some email, invite some friends, throw your lights, crayons, extension cords, and records in the car and do it... the roving microrave, largely unplanned, popping up unexpectedly and moving on... ;) mike [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1993 18:30:31 -0800 From: Robert Campanell Subject: Mark Kamins-Rave DJ? I saw a posting earlier this week about an INVITATION ONLY rave. It listed Mark Kamims as one of the DJs. Mark Kamins was a top club DJ in NYC during the 1980's. I think he even produced Madonna's "Everbody" single when she was just a club kid. Mark Kamins is a good club DJ, but a rave DJ. I don't think this will be a rave, but rather a rave simulation for the Manhattan club crowd. Kamins is associated with the clubs that have doormen who pick you if you "look like you belong." If you see Mark Kamins name, and the words INVITATION ONLY on a rave flyer, stay away from it. If you recieve an "invitation" give to one of your friends who would rather hang out in a VIP room at a club than a chill-out room at a rave. - Rob [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1993 18:31:15 -0800 From: Robert Campanell Subject: Spin magazine rave blurb The April issue of Spin magazine has an A to Z Guide to Alternative Culture. Here's what they have indexed under "R". "Rave. Bored with Band-Aid II in Somalia, CBS's Dan Rather came home to find a new scourge victimizing America's hopeless, shiftless youth: RAVER MADNESS! Yep, on a 48 hours special report, Rather revealed that the dreaded acid monster-LSD (boogity,boogity)-is back, and rave culture (tchno laser lights, and Vicks Vapo-Rub) is responsible. While some might suggest that ravers are just pseudo-Deadheads with coooler clothes, their almost spiritual immersion in technology, info access, and eht environment, whil not yet revolutionary, is quaintly invigoration, and more importantly, NOT THE LEAST BIT NOSTALGIC! Chatting on computer nets, traveling hundresds of miles for illegal parties, these kids are obsessed with slaying cynicism through underground cultural high jinks. The my dance like hackers on a cold day in hell, but that's part of the charm." Hooray for Spin. At least there's some media in this country who can report about the rave culture with some accuracy. I was tired of the Deadhead comparison. I've never been to a Dead show, and had no desire to ever go to one. Rave culture is about people who have vision about the future of pop culture, and are creating the vision today. The general media likes to portray President Clinton as the first culturally hip president in decades. However in reality, he's just a relic just like his Bush, Reagan, Carter, etc. He's from the rock-n-roll culture just like the rest of the ravers parents. Play some hardcore techno for them, and they won't understand how anyone could listen to that "noise." - Rob [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 14 Mar 1993 21:49:45 -0400 (EDT) From: an excursion through technospace Subject: connection II, my first west coast rave well hello all...i'm haing an absolute blissful time here on the west coast.. i could talk for hours.. obviously.. but, this post is about the rave last night.. my first west coast rave.. like my usual rave posts..it's hard to sum it up.. and remember it in one piece... but...compared to the skating rink, warehouse , etc.. raves out east this one was.... outside in the rain (blisssss!!!) in a clearing near a hill of flowers on the coast... with rocks and waves... and fog.. and fog beeps (sorta like a fog horn.. but it beeped).. it was rather beautiful... the music really wasn't very different than what they play out east..like i thought i would be...there was no hardcore.. and no breakbeat... just trance.. (.lots of beautiful trance) and housey trance.. and progressive house...the music was amazing....all djs i have never heard before... john drukman, jay (?), dave kelly.. and moonpup....wow on all of those guys.. wow. wow. wow. it was a small, totally underground (and illegal) rave...witha small turnout...cozy small.. a couple hundred tops(?).. i met lots of sf-ravers and experienced much of the same big happy family- ness that we have out east...everyone was realllllly cool.. and i was very happy to meet you all..you really made my visit completely worth it...now there are more friends, more faces to login names.. and well.. more love all around... the rave in the rain was so nice..i've always loved rain...and this was just so magical.... mm.. well.. i don't wanna take up too much space here.. and it's hard to sum it up. comparisons to east coast raves would be dumb.. 'cos it's just different.. no better..no worse.. just different..i had a GREAT time... here's leah to say a few words: god do I love the marina.... it makes me so happy.... I was happy to begin with - I knew that no matter what, I would have a great time. after all, look at all the wonderful people I got to meet. to start out with, taylor is here, which is wonderful in itself. and I finally got to meet joachim, inhuman, dana, tamara, bryan, blur, susie, derek, ovid, (uh oh - I'm having trouble remembering everyone) and I got to see so many people I hadn't seen in forever (hi and *hugs* to all and I'm sorry if I forgot lots of names... brain damage =) meeting and seeing everyone made the night. then we went to the marina. it was so amazing to see everyone working together and setting up and being a family - I love that. no one grumbled, everyone smiled... =) the music was fantastic. jon started things out right (what a guy - he can make things happen with only one turntable! =) and played some soooper dope shit. then moonpup came on and totally amazing stuff (taylor thinks he's great). then it was lee and oh my god what the hell can I say about that set. all the music was great, but it was his set that completely blew me away. the trance just took my brain out fucked it all up and put it in backwards. it was the perfect music for that time period- I had amazing energy (anyone else notice that?=) and I was sooooo happy. (I couldn't dance much in the beginning but that was when I really got going.) all I can say is wow. thank you... and dave spun some wild stuff - it's just too bad he had tsunami action on the turntables.... I still loved his music. the rain was funky and the fog was soo cool too.... we couldn't even see the city. I found out that I am insane (hee brian =) but in a good way. I like that. when it was over we all piled into the ihop on university. there were 28 of us... it was so much fun!!! we really are one big happy family... it made me feel all warm... then I got hyper and we all know what that means. (hey, anyone want a rooti tooti shake yer booty? =) it was sad to say good-bye to everyone, but I know I'll see you all again. again - sorry to any one who I met and didn't mention.... and to everyone who I did see and talk to... *hugs* *****BIG HUGS!!!***** (heh joachim =) I love you all! always, leah taylor back here: this is getting WAY long.. but.. i just wanted to end by saying thank you to everyone, especially brian, for setting htis uop... and introducing me to the sf rave scene. i really loved it.. and i REALLY appreciate your friendli- ness and love and it was just great.. thanks again...really. :) love to everyone.. hugs to everyone.. and east coasters.. come out here and check this out.. :) peace. >>taylor.808 [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: Mike J. Brown Subject: Re: Mark Kamins-Rave DJ? Date: Sun, 14 Mar 93 22:57:34 EST > I saw a posting earlier this week about an INVITATION ONLY rave. > It listed Mark Kamims as one of the DJs. Mark Kamins was a top > club DJ in NYC during the 1980's. I think he even produced > Madonna's "Everbody" single when she was just a club kid. Mark > Kamins is a good club DJ, but a rave DJ. > > I don't think this will be a rave, but rather a rave simulation > for the Manhattan club crowd. > > Kamins is associated with the clubs that have doormen who pick > you if you "look like you belong." If you see Mark Kamins name, > and the words INVITATION ONLY on a rave flyer, stay away from it. > If you recieve an "invitation" give to one of your friends who > would rather hang out in a VIP room at a club than a > chill-out room at a rave. Um, Mark Kamins remixed the otherwise gut-wrenching "Schizofrenia" by Quadrophonia. His mixes were very techno and very good, I thought. I have no idea what else he has been up to lately, but I'd go see him even if he was a trendy club dj at one time. DJs often have to spin what is expected of them to keep their jobs at places like that. I wouldn't hold that against him now, especially since he's been doing other things since then. Maybe he got out of that scene because he didn't like the door policies. Who knows? I'd like to see Shep Pettibone move some wax, myself. Sticking up for the defenseless, Mike Mike Brown _ _ __ ______________________________________Approach and Identify [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 15 Mar 1993 00:11:42 -0400 (EDT) From: "IT'S FUN TO TAKE A TRIP..." Subject: Unity: Frosted Rave June 26th This is to answer the questions that Mr.SparklE [and possibly others] had been wondering about. First let me straighten out the Tarek(q) problem-I'm Tarek Elnaccash from NYC. Tareq is Tareq Alrashid from Ohio. Now on to the question"...wheen did you feel you were able to represent Ne-Raves and Fuzzy Logik?" The idea for a joint rave came to me during a neuroLogical expedition into altered conciousneSs. I haD been thinking of all the fun I've had raving this past year. I had also been rEflecting on how dicks Like Scotto have manageD to add a negative element to whats considered by me to be a really bEautiful scene. How do people Like him manage tO exist when there are so many of us with genuine interest in raVing? With the combinEd resources and genuine interest of all the people who really love raving there's no need to deal with promoters to have a party. So who are these real ravers? NE-RAVES was created for and by REAL RAVERS. MINDCANDY is run by Love and her Kelidotribe [the Kaleidotribe is a volunteer rave assistance group. They offer their services as set-up crew, refreshment workers, and clean-up help just for the satisfaction of making raves awesome for everyone.] FUZZY LOGIC-i think Revar sums everything up better than I could ever say it in the FL flyer [i cant wait to get a hold of a copy of it-Chuck I hope you don't mind me reprinting parts of your flyer here]"We are all part of an energy that isn't yet defined. But we do see its massive force as the scene evolves and it will either elevate us to the highest peaks or run us into the ground. Now is the time to share and guide this energy to positive ends. Fuzzy Logik is a non-profit effort to give everyone the tools to create their own scene. Fuzzy Logic is YOU, the people who want to keep the scene from the greedy. We're free to create a new culture. It's time." These three groups were ment to collaborate- UNITY OF RAVERS!!!!!! As for FROSTED RAVE representing us-the minds of Laura [NE-R mommy, as the Kat affectionately calls her, Love [MC], and Revar [FL- if i ever manage to get ahold of him-you're such a hard person to reach!] will be helping create this event. These three represent the groups-not me alone. Further more FROSTED RAVE is for us because it has been made to be easily accessable to us-all NE-Ravers/Fuzzy Logik/Mindcandy members can purchase discount tickets in advance for only $5 (tix info will be posted again). It will also have some NE-R people DJing... on the 50 THOUSAND WATT SOUND SYSTEM we have set up for this event ["OOOOOO WEEE, I AM REEEEADY!!!!!!" -church of extasy] To rap this up I'd like to remind people that if they e-mail me their postal return address you'll be sent a flyer for FROSTED RAVE and a free issue of the MINDCANDY rave newsletter. And last but not least I'd like to send all my warm blankets to Mr.SparklE- what your questions mean to me is that your friends on NE-Raves are important to you and that you're looking out for them. That's as cool as it gets, by my standards. If you'd like to help out with this ,SparklE, just send me some mail. --------------------P E A C E and L O V E---------------------------- and many warm blankets to all ravers, Tarek [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: kawakami@noc.usfca.edu (Sea of Sin) Subject: Winter Storm Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1993 23:22:12 -0800 (PST) So what are you ravers doing in the storm out there? Are you snowed in really bad or what? Here, in California, we did experience rain, unfortuately on the night of Connection 2, but it still happened outdoors. It made me mad when the sun come out the next day, and it was fairly nice outside. Oh well. Just be careful out there in the snow.....and I hope Inhuman and Susie made it back to DC okay... cin [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1993 23:53:56 -0800 From: Fred Heutte Subject: Re: Spin magazine rave blurb Actually, we're all listening to that techno "noise" because the style is a popular one for background music for commercials all over the radio and TV now. Well, maybe not breakbeat, yet :-) You should check out a Dead show sometime, Rob. Just as I would say raving's not for everyone, but it's worth trying out, the same can be said for the Grateful Dead (after 150+ Dead shows, I don't see the need any more to prosletyze, it's out there, it's an interesting flavor and it's worth checking out). Just as with raves, being there gives you a whole different sense of what it is really about. We are trained in our culture to trust TV more than we trust our own experience. It's perfectly OK with me if someone can't stand the Grateful Dead (or even raves) after they've had some experience with it. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Subject: Connection II <---> East 2 West From: inhuman@mindvox.phantom.com (Inhuman) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 93 02:47:38 EST Well, after a stop in Cleveland while Dulles airport tried to figure out how to get their runway lights working again, I'm back in mundane ol' Washington, DC. It's hard to believe that about 18 hours ago I was looking out over San Francisco bay, dancing with all my new sfraver friends. I started out the night taking a bus down Haight St to CalaFoods with a friend who wanted to see what raves were like. We got there and got our little instruction/direction cards. A friendly guy offered us a ride there (sorry, I can't remember your name now!). Once we got there, there were cop cars outside and the rave was getting shut down. Bummer... I quickly spotted Susie, though and got introduced to all you sfravers. From there, Mike gave us a ride to CalaFoods and then to the Berkeley Marina where the rave was being moved. We got there and everything was already set up! That was fast! I was expecting something along the lines of the FMR, which took hours to set up. After some initial problems with the needle, things got moving.... "And away we go!" That was some cool hip-hop style stuff at the beginning. I liked it. After an hour or two, though, I got really tired and went and sat down on Susie's blanket. I didn't know I could fall asleep with my head on my knees, but I did for quite some time. When I woke up with a sore butt, it was light out and this song that I had heard at the FMR was coming on and I liked it a lot. I got up and I was really cold and started dancing. I got really warm quickly and immediately fell into the vibe. I wish this had happened earlier, but there was a nice stretch of about an hour where I was so blissfully happy... Joachim was up on this hill making giant bubbles. Seagulls were flying around. It was so foggy and misty. It was really wonderful... And then IHoP afterwards... That was fun. Who would have thought those pancakes could have tasted so good? What a cozy morning.... You SF ravers really have it together. It's going to be hard to go to anouther hardcore east coast rave after that. I guess the only option is to create our own scene... there's some promise of evolution. Thanks Mike & Brian for the rides! Thanks Mike again for the vision tapes which I am eagerly looking forward to. Thanks Chris for the Renu-You which will brighten up the sunshine microrave here in DC. Thanks everyone for your company and smiles and hugs and stuff! Hopefully I'll make it back out there again sometime! ....sorry for the massive cross posting, but I'm too egotistical to only send it to one list. :-) Michael | "I've begun to wonder if we wouldn't (inhuman@mindvox.phantom.com) | also regard spelunkers as desperate | criminals if AT&T owned all the ...trance form...trance send... | caves." --John Perry Barlow [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: Jesse Brook McCune Subject: "east coast" Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1993 03:33:42 -0500 (EST) Just wanted to make one point...the "east coast" cannot be categorized as a single type of rave-scene...I've been to New York raves, and heard about DC raves...and they are TOTALLY different from New England raves...it is so cozy and friendly up here...cold right now, true...but very happy and loving and not at ALL hardcore...as the east coast tends to be categorized...mostly happy house and happpy breakbeat, with a lot of tribal and trance...that's all...just had to make that point...bye :) Live on...love on...rave on... -Sunshine ============================================================================== | I am Sunshine... || I am the boy who made her heart || Jesse B McCune | | @ @ || feel happy, and shines like the sun! || WPI Box 609 | | \_/ ||======================================|| Worcester, MA | | on a cloudy day! || mccune@wpi.wpi.edu PH#:(508)791-3345 || 01609 | ============================================================================== I NEEEEEEEEEEED your lovin'... [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: kawakami@noc.usfca.edu (Sea of Sin) Subject: Winter Storm Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1993 23:22:12 -0800 (PST) So what are you ravers doing in the storm out there? Are you snowed in really bad or what? Here, in California, we did experience rain, unfortuately on the night of Connection 2, but it still happened outdoors. It made me mad when the sun come out the next day, and it was fairly nice outside. Oh well. Just be careful out there in the snow.....and I hope Inhuman and Susie made it back to DC okay... cin [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1993 23:53:56 -0800 From: Fred Heutte Subject: Re: Spin magazine rave blurb Actually, we're all listening to that techno "noise" because the style is a popular one for background music for commercials all over the radio and TV now. Well, maybe not breakbeat, yet :-) You should check out a Dead show sometime, Rob. Just as I would say raving's not for everyone, but it's worth trying out, the same can be said for the Grateful Dead (after 150+ Dead shows, I don't see the need any more to prosletyze, it's out there, it's an interesting flavor and it's worth checking out). Just as with raves, being there gives you a whole different sense of what it is really about. We are trained in our culture to trust TV more than we trust our own experience. It's perfectly OK with me if someone can't stand the Grateful Dead (or even raves) after they've had some experience with it. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1993 07:14:00 -0500 (EST) From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: Spin magazine rave blurb On Sun, 14 Mar 1993, Fred Heutte wrote: > Actually, we're all listening to that techno "noise" because the style is > a popular one for background music for commercials all over the radio and > TV now. Well, maybe not breakbeat, yet. Check out the new Reebok commercials. Joe (187- Mobile Live Techno Vibes) [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1993 08:06:57 -0500 From: Todd Tibbetts Subject: Re: connection II, my first west coast rave On Sun, 14-Mar-1993, TOD3253@ACFcluster.NYU.EDU (an excursion through technospace) said: > outside > in the rain (blisssss!!!) > in a clearing > near a hill of flowers > on the coast... > with rocks and waves... and fog.. Sounds Beeeeee-utiful!!! And, Arrggg!...we are buried under this snow stuff!!! Raves in the parks SOON !! Springtime...soon!!!! tt [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Subject: Atlantis From: humphrey@unity.ncsu.edu Date: Mon, 15 Mar 93 10:08:22 EST I know there is a bus leaving from Boston to Atlantis. Are there any leaving from say, DC or somewhere farther south? I would really like to go but don't think I can convince my friend to drive all the way to RI. If not, anyone want to arrange one? I and 3 friends are willing to do it. How many other people would like to? Say a bus from DC? How bout it? I love water! |\ . ______ * __John Rainbow Humphrey__ | \ _ | | + john_humphrey@ncsu.edu + <--personal mail here | \ _ | | - + humphrey@unity.ncsu.edu + <--or here | \ | | - + jrhumphr@eos.ncsu.edu + |e___\ |______|/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1993 10:53:44 -0500 (EST) From: Kenny Eng Subject: Re: Mark Kamins-Rave DJ? >I saw a posting earlier this week about an INVITATION ONLY rave. >It listed Mark Kamims as one of the DJs. Mark Kamins was a top >club DJ in NYC during the 1980's. I think he even produced >Madonna's "Everbody" single when she was just a club kid. Mark >Kamins is a good club DJ, but a rave DJ. > >I don't think this will be a rave, but rather a rave simulation >for the Manhattan club crowd. > >Kamins is associated with the clubs that have doormen who pick >you if you "look like you belong." If you see Mark Kamins name, >and the words INVITATION ONLY on a rave flyer, stay away from it. >If you recieve an "invitation" give to one of your friends who >would rather hang out in a VIP room at a club than a >chill-out room at a rave. well, look at it this way, lenny dee, repete, jason jinx, soul slinger, james christian, and a slew of others, all at one time or another or still do, dj for limelight or other clubs, which people on this net supposedly say has a strict door policy and such. does that mean we should boycott the raves and go somewhere else when any of the above dj's are on the dj lineup? i mean, these guys have jobs and they need to work too. what is wrong with working for a club that has a door policy, if it means a steady gig and some recognition in the field, or whatever? hey, nasa might even start getting some doormen who pick out people to go in, since it is getting so crowded now. who knows. does that mean we should say no to raves where db, on-E, mr. kleen dj? kenny [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1993 13:11:33 -0500 (EST) From: Stephen David Subject: Re: Atlantis Hey! I was wondering who knew anything about a bus going from Boston to Atlantis. Is there a number I can call for info? -Stephen [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Subject: Re: Connection II <---> East 2 West From: inhuman@mindvox.phantom.com (Inhuman) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 93 13:09:16 EST You're right, you're right... I was thinking of DC/NYC. The New England scene does seem a lot closer than down here. But there is still a derth of truly underground raves, no profit, no cost, everyone helps. It sounds like you guys are doing the right thing with your microrave, though. Keep it going! Michael | "I've begun to wonder if we wouldn't (inhuman@mindvox.phantom.com) | also regard spelunkers as desperate | criminals if AT&T owned all the ...trance form...trance send... | caves." --John Perry Barlow [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Subject: Re: Connection II <---> East 2 West From: inhuman@mindvox.phantom.com (Inhuman) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 93 13:14:27 EST Heh heh, I was only in the Mistake By the Lake for about a half an hour, or else I would have called you up for a spontaneous runway rave, Golden Boy! Michael | "I've begun to wonder if we wouldn't (inhuman@mindvox.phantom.com) | also regard spelunkers as desperate | criminals if AT&T owned all the ...trance form...trance send... | caves." --John Perry Barlow [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Mon, 15 Mar 93 11:41:52 EST From: robcamp@tmn.com (Robert Campanell) Subject: SUBJECT: Re: Mark Kamins-Rave DJ? Date: Sun, 14 Mar 93 22:57:34 EST From: Mike J. Brown > I saw a posting earlier this week about an INVITATION ONLY rave. > It listed Mark Kamims as one of the DJs. Mark Kamins was a top > club DJ in NYC during the 1980's. I think he even produced > Madonna's "Everbody" single when she was just a club kid. Mark > Kamins is a good club DJ, but a rave DJ. > > I don't think this will be a rave, but rather a rave simulation > for the Manhattan club crowd. > > Kamins is associated with the clubs that have doormen who pick > you if you "look like you belong." If you see Mark Kamins name, > and the words INVITATION ONLY on a rave flyer, stay away from it. > If you recieve an "invitation" give to one of your friends who > would rather hang out in a VIP room at a club than a > chill-out room at a rave. Um, Mark Kamins remixed the otherwise gut-wrenching "Schizofrenia" by Quadrophonia. His mixes were very techno and very good, I thought. I have no idea what else he has been up to lately, but I'd go see him even if he was a trendy club dj at one time. DJs often have to spin what is expected of them to keep their jobs at places like that. I wouldn't hold that against him now, especially since he's been doing other things since then. Maybe he got out of that scene because he didn't like the door policies. Who knows? I'd like to see Shep Pettibone move some wax, myself. Sticking up for the defenseless, Mike Mike Brown _ _ __ ______________________________________Approach and Identify Mark Kamins can do good remixes, and he's also a good producer. I don't question his talents. But when I see his name on a rave posting giving his DJ history, coupled with the words "INVITATION ONLY", something in me throws up warning signs. As rave get more and more attention, there are going to be people who will jump on the bandwagon. However, when their version of raving is really an 80's version of clubbing, I don't think I want to be on their bandwagon. - Rob [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Subject: ORB VIDEO... Date: Mon, 15 Mar 93 14:22:07 -0500 From: jshiple@media.mit.edu A friend of mine e-mailed me saying that someone posted on the orb mailing list that HMV in Harvard Square had 4 copies of the Orb: Patterns and Textures. Well, I rushed out there as fast as I could and I got the first one!!!!!!!! WWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHAAAAAAAAAAA!!! I talked to the guys there and they said that they actually got 20 copies. They went on sale this morning and will go fast, so if you want one, go there now! This has been an ne-raves public service announcement. -John S. (knee-raver) [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 15 Mar 1993 15:34:12 -0400 (EDT) From: "IT'S FUN TO TAKE A TRIP..." Subject: Re: ORB VIDEO... John S and others out there: be aware that the orb video origionally came with a CD of the movie soundtrack- you better ask the people at the store about this -don't get sold a movie if you're paying for a movie and a disk. The cd is in a thin sleeve and when you pop it into a disk player it should say 1 song 50 min long. Of course, if they stopped making the disk as part of the video pack get the video anyway. Dolphins, clouds, purple astronauts, jellyfishes, scenes from an orb concert [see if you can make out the girls voice singing "tripping on sunshine" during Earth (gaia)-I believe that Orange sunshine was acid [supposedly some of th BEST acid EVER] that was passed out in ridiculously large ammounts to people at the first Be-ins in San Francisco.] The video is a MUST SEE for EVERYONE! By the way does anyone know anything about the supposed touring of Meat Beat Manifesto and 808 State that I heard will happen in the next two months? Lotza blankets, Tarek [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 15 Mar 93 12:36:00 EST From: "John Speakman" Subject: global grooves, sociological surveys Hiya! Global Grooves was postponed to next Sat (20th) cos of snow (grrr) - ta for the flyers KitH, hope to try & use'em next sat - r u still going to go Will? Since I was the first to make a grumpy remark about the survey, maybe I should rephrase what I said - it was just that I didn't think some of the questions, like "has a rave ever been a prelude to sex" are going to yield answers that, however interpreted, are going to be useful in a sociological survey or informative to people who aren't familiar with raving. But them I'm not a sociologist so maybe I'm talking out of my arse as usual. John, the grinch, as usual. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Subject: Re: ORB VIDEO... Date: Mon, 15 Mar 93 16:55:00 -0500 From: jshiple@media.mit.edu The CD is included. -John S. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: TMA@KUWAIT.ELP.CWRU.EDU Date: Mon, 15 Mar 93 12:54:51 EST Subject: Questions!!! Is "Back to the Future" rave is same as MEGARave? if not when/where is MEGARave is going to be? Who is going to "Back to the Future"/"MEGARave"? Who is your favorite/best TRANCE dj(s)? (names?) Please reply to me through e-mail. Thanks, TAREQ [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: pashdown@slack.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown) Subject: Orb vid Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1993 15:57:20 -0700 (MST) Ear/Rational recently got a bunch in stock for cheaper than $35. I can't remember the exact price, nor will I try to. Contact: FAX 805/893-8553, Phone 805/564-4949, email angst%cs@hub.ucsb.edu [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 15 Mar 1993 18:05:55 -0400 (EDT) From: an excursion through technospace Subject: ride needed to atlantis hello... i'm coming back from SF at ABout 5:15 pm this saturday...which puts me back at my apartment at.. oh.. about 6:30 pm... is anyone from the NYC area driving up to atlantis? and.. is anyone going thru at about 6:30 (at the earliest.. later is fine, of course) and, is there room in your car? and, would you be willing to fill that room with me?? :) thanks.. hope i can make it. peacelove >>taylor.808 [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Mon, 15 Mar 93 18:36:32 -0500 From: camper@buphy.bu.edu (Dan English) Subject: raving in Aruba ok, so there arent any raves in aruba. but i have a tan. actually, there is only one club inm aruba, but it stays open all night. being club trash, i went there three times. they played a total of 3 old-school german techno tracks, and everybody's free by rozalla two times. the rest of the music was merengue, hip-hop, and cheese. luckily, we had a steady suply of tapes from tyhe likes of onionz, tin tin, mgee, and a ministry of sound tape. we plyed out the groove on the dunes. its surprising that in a dutch colony, there was no house music. the dutch love house. some of them live in houses. my plane was delayed from the storm so i had to stay an extra day. sucks to be me. -camper. * stay groovy. camper english it ain't easy, being cheesey @buphy.bu.edu [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: Jesse Brook McCune Subject: request Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1993 18:42:03 -0500 (EST) ok...now I don't want any flames on this, or even any negative comments...if you don't want to help, just leave it alone...but, anyways I am collecting Max-Points, you know, from blank Maxell cassettes...anyway, I have quite a few saved up...I am trying for a cd/cassette player, but I might even go for the trip to the Bahamas...hehe...that is, depending on how much help I get...I buy a LOT of blank tapes, I just bought over 50 this weekend, and they'll be gone within a couple of weeks, but I need help to get THAT many Max-Points...ok...here's my request: I am willing to pay anyone who wants to send me them 2 cents per point...I know that seems piddly, but hey...if you send me 1000, you get $20...that's not so bad...I'll even send you a self-addressed stamped envelope if you want...I know a lot of people never use them, so I might as well...I'd really appreciate it... Maybe I'm dreaming, but a few of my friends, ne-ravers even, have flat out given me THEIRS already, so, I figure, hey...maybe more people are willing to help me out...thanks again... Just send me your address, or send the points to: Jesse McCune WPI Box 609 Worcester, MA 01609 Live on...love on...rave on... -Sunshine ============================================================================== | I am Sunshine... || I am the boy who made her heart || Jesse B McCune | | @ @ || feel happy, and shines like the sun! || WPI Box 609 | | \_/ ||======================================|| Worcester, MA | | on a cloudy day! || mccune@wpi.wpi.edu PH#:(508)791-3345 || 01609 | ============================================================================== I NEEEEEEEEEEED your lovin'... [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: Jesse Brook McCune Subject: request Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1993 18:44:27 -0500 (EST) oh...by the way...I also take charity...hehe ;) Live on...love on...rave on... -Sunshine ============================================================================== | I am Sunshine... || I am the boy who made her heart || Jesse B McCune | | @ @ || feel happy, and shines like the sun! || WPI Box 609 | | \_/ ||======================================|| Worcester, MA | | on a cloudy day! || mccune@wpi.wpi.edu PH#:(508)791-3345 || 01609 | ============================================================================== I NEEEEEEEEEEED your lovin'... [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Mon, 15 Mar 93 18:46:17 -0500 From: camper@buphy.bu.edu (Dan English) Subject: Atlantis i was just wondering how Onionz is going to fly at the speed of light and dj three events on March 27th DNA, Green Eggs and Ham and Dune Poseur SparklE. here is my guess, he won't play Dune. i haven't met anyone here who has any respect for manny, and i think that onionz is in the same boat. i am not going to atlantis. i dont trust manny at all and i dont think that its safe to have people dehydrated on e in saunas. boycott boycott boycott. -camper. . * stay groovy. camper english it ain't easy, being cheesey @buphy.bu.edu [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: s i n e w a v e Subject: felicity's bliss... 27 march 93..b|re Date: Sun, 14 Mar 93 15:16:37 EST to everyone in the techno realm, and those who are not, etc.... our band is playing at: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - felicity's bliss (meaning, double happiness, double bliss, etc...) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - saturday, 27 march 1993 11pm to ? * all ages * location TBA DJ's rob sherwood kevy kev mike filly diesel boy PA body release no admittance after 2:30 am "a bass boomin, head zoomin, sex havin, candy grabbin, blunt rollin, mind blowin, no slowin, game throwin, wall shakin, no fakin, x takin gathering of hedonistic rave children! u down wit that? then don't miss it!"-- mel-ske dred the underground posse: mel-ske dred: promo conceptual direction with : johnny mac * marlon * lil danny v. * rave dave * arnold * jaime u. call: 216 491 4554 for updates and location (you may also call body release {todd sines, titonton duvante, charles noel} at home, or send e-mail to me directly for anything else, etc.. ) sines -- /\ /\ _________________s i n e w a v e___________________ /\ /\ / \ / \ / todd sines: tsines@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu \ / \ / \ / \/ \/ 384 e17th ave, columbus, oh 43201 614 299 9529 \/ \/ \ analogue / analogue-request@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1993 19:01:18 -0500 From: alrashid@pyrite.SOM.CWRU.Edu Subject: AAAAARRRRGGGGGHHHH..... My mailer is fucked on my machine!!!! I am recieving messages with no contents.....!!!! So please if anyone mailed me a message today TMA@PO.CWRU.EDU, just mail it to me a [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1993 19:07:05 -0500 From: alrashid@pyrite.SOM.CWRU.Edu Subject: TMA's mailer was fucked!!!! Hi all, My mailer was fucked all day long, basically I was getting all messages delivered to me without to:, subject:, or contents for that matter. If anybody mailed a message to TMA@PO.CWRU.EDU directly just mail again, because I lost all messages from todays. tma@po.cwru.edu ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ is my correct e-mail address not tma@kuwait.elp.cwru.edu <<< mail sent there will be lost because kuwait is my own machine and could be down sometimes. tma@po.cwru.edu is up 24hours all the time, official e-mail address ok! Thank alot, TAREQ [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1993 19:30:00 -0500 From: greg.ipp@rose.com Subject: Re: Spin magazine... Date Entered: 03-15-93 19:25 > > On Sun, 14 Mar 1993, Fred Heutte wrote: > > > Actually, we're all listening to that techno "noise" because the style is > > a popular one for background music for commercials all over the radio and > > TV now. Well, maybe not breakbeat, yet. > Check out the new Reebok commercials. The opening song in the Reebok commercial is _Reverence_ by the Jesus and Mary Chain ('alternative' techno?) -- what are the others in there, anyway? (Can't remember what they sounded like). > Joe > > (187- Mobile Live Techno Vibes) > greg.ipp@rose.com / rev@cibbs.uucp * "I'll take your brain to another dimension..." --- RoseReader 2.10 P001297 Entered at [ROSE] RoseMail 2.10 : RoseNet<=>Usenet Gateway : Rose Media 416-733-2285 [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Mon, 15 Mar 93 19:37:26 From: jeremias@MIT.EDU (Jeremy Grainger) Subject: Atlantis & sAfEty WARNINGS Just wondering if the Atlantis folk have thought about the implications of potentially hundreds of E/A-ing ravers in pools, hottubs, saunas... The combination of highly stimulative substance(s) which rapidly increase heart beat and dehydrate your body, with the heat of saunas and/or hot water of tubs is a potentially LETHAL one NO MATTER what age one is or how excellent one's health. Not to mention the dangers of tripping in a swimming pool. I was just in California in January. It rained so much that we went to lots of hot tubs/spas (if can't beat the water, join it!). Every single one we went to had signs about drugs and heat. One location had been forced to close (temporarily) in the last couple of years. A young man (early 20s, in good health) had EXPIRED (ie DIED) whilst tripping in the ~110 degree hotspring bath. If Boston-area (ne-ravers) folks are looking for a safe undergound alternative event on Saturday, there's going to be a private party in my loft. E-mail me back for an invite. Live DJs from Terre Posse/OLOWOP and WZBC-FM. (We planned the party before Atlantis, not as an alternative. It won't just be ravers, but I thought I'd extend the invite...) Keep the scene alive. Peace. Jeremy [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Mon, 15 Mar 93 19:04:08 EST From: damian@cislabs.pitt.edu Hello You People, This is a quick summary of the weekend (it has already been reviewed a few times already so Ill keep it short :) Went up to WPI in Massachusetts this weekend and had a sooper time. Highlights include : -------------------- Seeing all the phat ne-ravers (like Mr SparkleHead and SunshineBoy and Frogs and John and Kat and Beck and Apple Sky and Wizard of Oz and TinnTinnabuwitz and DoorKnutz and everyone else including non-ne-raver OverLoad). Acting like a complete fool sAturday afternoon =) Watching poor little invalid Neith play the part of the disabled veteran Watching XXX Japanimation =) Spinning phucked up shit on sAturday =) Shopping at Boston Beat Starving my ass off at WPI Fighting off a pathetic attempt to steal my clothes from the bathroom whilst I was showering. Experiencing a 26hour drive home. wee. hee. yay. It was great fun and I hope to repeat this again soon. I cant wait until summer so the weather wont impede our fun and phrolicking. Picnics, BBQs, Raving and other stuff! My e-mail address is damian@cislabs.pitt.edu if any of you were wondering. Hoped you all liked my overalls ;) Burning, dieselBoy PS : Kris , please take off the DeeLite ;) PPS : send e-mail to kcn@wpi.wpi.edu for bootleg copies of me and Overload spinning. -- "Love, Frogs and read a little deeper my precious........." Neith "I went to a Catastrophic rave and all I got was a lousy 40oz" [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: TMA@KUWAIT.ELP.CWRU.EDU Date: Mon, 15 Mar 93 19:33:53 EST Subject: I am OK now pheeeeeeow.... Guys/Gals My mailer is fine now. Sorry about the first two messages, I was freaking out! again, [ tma@po.cwru.edu ] is my e-mail address. Sorry about the wasted bandwidth, the idea of losing touch with ne-raves for a second was a very bad trick played on me by my machine!!!! TAREQ ---------------------------------------------------------------- Tareq Alrashid Library Collection Services IBM / Case Western Reserve University tma@po.cwru.edu 10950 Euclid Avenue, Baker #6 (216) 368 - 3559 (VOICE) Cleveland, OH 44106-7033 (216) 368 - 8880 (FAX) ---------------------------------------------------------------- [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1993 18:39:24 -0800 From: Fred Heutte Subject: Re: Spin magazine... One of the cosmetics commercials sounds like it samples the synth at the very beginning of Ride's "Leave Them All Behind." [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1993 21:50 EST From: DPC96@uno.cc.geneseo.edu Hello anybody thinks he/she can house a bunch of people on April 25 at Wash. DC.. We need a place to stay for the march. You can get back to me through the Email----in%"dpc96@geneseo.bitnet". Greatly appreciated!!!! [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Mon, 15 Mar 93 21:57:34 -0500 From: kzimmerman@eagle.wesleyan.edu Subject: but... yeah camper i dunno about manny but he isnt the one who is throwing Dune Dune is being thrown by a Michael Regan from San Francisco hence, Dutch. so whuts the deel? and BTW anyone wanna buy a folded Atlantis tikket? death isnt particularly appealing to me today (but try me next week) Pax, PoseursparklE [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 15 Mar 1993 23:42:03 -0400 (EDT) From: PSYCHEDELIC BLANKETS Subject: Smart Drugs I figured some fellow NE-Ravers might be able to help me out on this one. I'm doing some research on smart drugs/drinks [real ones-not the gator-aid+fruit pulp+ice available at many raves]. If anyone has come across good articles on it anywhere [especially non mondo 2000 articles-i've already seen a lot of this already] could you please e-mail me the sources. You dont have to write the whole article to me-i'd be happy if you just told me what mag/paper and the issue #.Thanx for the help. Currently blanketized and smiling, Tarek [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 16 Mar 93 00:00:47 -0500 From: kzimmerman@eagle.wesleyan.edu Subject: Atlantis gets dryer hey hey hey guess what kiddiez. no need to worry about the evils of saunas and hot tubs at Atlantis anymore. my friend Dietrich who is promoting in Conn. got word from Manny that the old space, a health club, the roof of caved in because of all the snow. BTW Manny means well. Dietrich wants you to know that... And the rave will go on. At least there will be a pool. No danger of death there. Guess i ain't selling that tikkit. So i panicked. Paranoid twit I am. Wow, man, I didn't know grape jelly was the antichrist.... Poseur Soopreem Fresh-Jive SparklE (Scotto Part II). [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 16 Mar 1993 00:42:20 -0500 (EST) From: TOWER OF DUB Subject: spin who does spin write for anyway? i don't see how you could lay down concrete definitions for alternative culture when there is no one specific form. spin tries too hard to be trendy. i hate that shit. i think that they should admit to themselves that they are commercial evil like rolling stone. i dunno... opinions? manish [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 16 Mar 1993 02:17:37 -0400 (EDT) From: an excursion through technospace Subject: atlantis/pools/drowning trippers ahh... i don't think the lack of hottubs kills all the potential danger... it seems as tho people tripping and Xing would have a hard time swimming.. ?? please be careful. >>taylor-106 [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 16 Mar 1993 02:20:14 -0400 (EDT) From: an excursion through technospace Subject: "humanoid" 92 i FINALLY founda copy of stakker humanoid's "humanoid 92" cd. as one of my very favorite acid house tunes.. this was on TOP of my list of finds...ahh.. good ole SF came thru for this one... anyone who was/is into that old CLASSIC, search this disc out.. it's got some nice "newer" sounding acid mixes... more 303's some technofied versions... all in all, mr dougans proves his godliness once again... peace and warmth >>taylor(808) [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: kesma@e5.ijs.si (Vladimir Neskovic) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1993 12:13:06 +0100 Subject: Subscribe Please put me back on the list.Thanx. Kesma. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 16 Mar 93 06:28:39 -0500 From: jna@silver.lcs.mit.edu (when the spell is broken) Subject: Re: Atlantis I agree.. Manny is a pain in the ass, never mind the fact that he'll ignore just about anything you ask him / tell him to do.. But, it's not worth it to argue about rave promoters... Where's the majority going this week? -john [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 16 Mar 93 06:36:52 -0500 From: jna@silver.lcs.mit.edu (when the spell is broken) Subject: Re: HOLD up! WAITAMINNIT Guh , umm.. well... I'm not gonna say anything about who or who isn't listadmin, but don't go advertising ne-raves on a flyer. Just don't. It's using the internet for commercial gain. Bad idea. -john [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 16 Mar 93 10:49 EST From: laura@usl.com Subject: taking my name in vain? Hey you all, Ed sent me the article Tarek wrote about Frosted Rave. In it, Tarek said: >"As for FROSTED RAVE representing us-the minds of Laura [NE-R] . . . will be >helping create this event. These three reprsent the groups-not me alone." Well, not exactly. I never realized I was representing NE-Raves, especially since I espressly told Tarek and Love that I am not really on the list anymore. I am making NO ATTEMPT to represent anyone other than my own views of raving and event-planning. My participation thus far in FROSTED RAVE has consisted of talking extensively to Tarek and Love and sharing with them my views of what may or may not work, and how they could think about organizing things. Love also asked me to DJ that night (she said they particularly wanted a woman DJ on the list), and I said yes, but the DJ list is not 100% confirmed (but I really hope she sticks to it, because I've been practicing and I really want to do it). That said, let me add the following: Love really has her stuff together. She went out and found a good location with no fuss, no bother. She got preliminary committments from 5 DJs within 24 hours of setting the date -- some of these are big names, some are newcomers. She strikes me as the type of person who says she is going to get something done and then goes and does it. An action-based person, rather than a talk-based person. I am looking forward to this event in a big way! Laura [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 16 Mar 93 10:04:35 PST From: mw@sybase.com (Michael Wertheim) Subject: Re: atlantis/pools/drowning trippers > it seems as tho people tripping and Xing would have a hard time swimming. Yup -- that's how Will Sin, the bass player of the Shamen died. (And the concept of a "good" Shamen song died with him.) [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 16 Mar 93 13:33:40 EST From: djm@bedford.progress.COM (Dave McMahon) Subject: Re: spin > From @UACSC2.ALBANY.EDU:MS5224@ALBNYVMS.BITNET Tue Mar 16 00:53:03 1993 > when there is no one specific form. spin tries too hard > to be trendy. i hate that shit. i think that they should I saw something funny on Comedy Central the other night: I'm sure I don't have the direct quote, but... [[[[ REALITY CHECK ]]]] "If you look at yourself and say, 'Hey, I'm grunge', chances are, you're not." ^^^^^^ Insert current trend here ------------>>>>>>^^^^^^ dave. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 16 Mar 93 12:00:54 -0500 From: camper@buphy.bu.edu (Dan English) Subject: ELEVATION fresh from the mouth of alyssa and eric, promoters: elevation- a weekend long rave held at a ski resort may 21-23 in vermont (smugglers notch) 2 arena's- main area- on the mountainside confirmed dj's: onionz dante jason jinx wink a place called bliss james christian alx of london disco dan mayhem osheen jason(mouse) arena two- in a lodge- anyone who wants to spin can schedule for a time and go to it. tickets are $40 for the entire weekend $99 for the weekend including lodging and access to the pool, hot tubs, tennis, racketball, etc. $cheaper if come after 8pm on saturday. more dj's unconfirmed, but lets just say that san francisco djs are being condidered. (good ones) -camper. * stay groovy. camper english it ain't easy, being cheesey @buphy.bu.edu [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: nivekogr@Athena.MIT.EDU Subject: Atlantis: Sink or Swim? Date: Tue, 16 Mar 93 15:36:29 EST Camper gives us insight into Onionz preferences: >here is my guess, he won't play Dune. i haven't met anyone here who has >any respect for manny, and i think that onionz is in the same boat. Then why did he agree to do Atlantis? OR do you know something the rest of us don't (i.e. Onionz punts Atlantis)? As for Atlantis, as I posted about a week ago, the potential danger of this event seems enormous. Imagine that if WE (ne-ravers) have misgivings about this event then the amount of trepidation felt by the owners, etc. must be tenfold worse. If manny, by what ever manner, can convince the owners that a rave at a pool will be safe (by taking the proper precautions) then I'd say that it has a pretty good chance of going off O.K. since the owners will still bear responsibility for any accidents (the probability of which the owners must convince themselves is minimal). Basically, it's one thing to have an event in an isolated warehouse and another to have it in a public pool. IF he does have permits for the event, he must have done a LOT of convincing. Now, how do we find out if he has permits..?? Of course, there are a couple of caveats in this argument. For example, if manny just rented the pool and said he wanted to have a pool party with a 100 friends, I expect the owners will be INCREDIBLY freaked when the lights/decorations/people in funny outfits and wide eyes start showing up...end of event. MAybe he did say he was having a combination dance/pool party but tempered how many people were to show up. I hate speculating!!! I really want to see the DJs listed but I will not trudge to Warwick without some stongly assuring words from Manny (creative or otherwise) that he has taken the proper precautions/the event will not be busted. I'll call their number this afternoon. Perhaps the people who know this guy directly can offer some more concrete info rather than stoking the speculation fires. -Chris Teixeira P.S. Are the people from Brandeis still planning the bus trip from Boston to Atlantis? [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 16 Mar 93 16:57:46 EST From: djm@bedford.progress.COM (Dave McMahon) Subject: Atlantis Ok, just a few things about this weekend. First of all, why all of this concern of having to play mommy for a bunch of people that can take care of themselves, thank you. And for the people who don't know how to take care of themselves, there will lifeguards on duty. PROS ~~~~ A Heated Pool! Lenny Dee and Micro (for us hardcore fans) Second (and last) Party not busted CONS ~~~~ Manny (if he's a REAL problem for you) First Party Busted at 2am I personally will pay the $12 just to see Lenny D and Micro spin, but that's because a) I love Brooklyn Hardcore and b) I don't often get to see them. I could care less if 'Manny's a jerk' or 'E'd out Teenagers are at risk of drowning'. If something bad is going to happen, it will happen whether you show up or not. I doubt anything bad will happen anyway. We CAN take care of ourselves and we DO take care of our friends. I think the real negative vibe about this party is coming from all of the hype about how bad it's going to be. I mean, think about it, will all of these HORRIBLE things really happen? Will you being there really make it any worse? I doubt it. It will probably make it better since we'll have more aware people there. Do what y'all will, but barring any natural disasters or Lenny D not showing, I'll probably be there. I hope to see all of you there too! :) dave [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: TMA@KUWAIT.ELP.CWRU.EDU Date: Tue, 16 Mar 93 15:09:13 EST Subject: Weekend of April 2-4,1993... Hi all, I was wondering who is doin' what on that the weekend of April 2-4, I know I am supposed to wait until the H-O-M comes out that Thursday, or whenever but, I need to plan far ahead? Thanks, TAREQ [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1993 17:43:36 -0500 (EST) From: mike perkowitz Subject: picture update. ideally, tomorrow i will be picking up the prints i ordered a few days ago and leaving the order for the 100 or so pictures people have requested. so if you'd like to be part of this batch, let me know before about noon tomorrow... i'm hoping this batch can come back within a week so that i'll get them back before i leave for spring break... after this batch, it will be a while before i'll be able to order any more. more updates tomorrow, i'm sure. mike ----------------------------------------------------------------- t i n t i n n a b u l a t i o n i don't sample DIGITALLY, but i certainly have no compunctions about stealing melodies! Mike Perkowitz map@cs.brown.edu ----------------------------------------------------------------- [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: pashdown@slack.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown) Subject: Whimper and whine Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1993 15:44:47 -0700 (MST) double hit mickey was thrown at a water park the hot tubs were fun happee cool trancey neato nobody dead nobody hurt aquarius is not the first rave at a water park does worrying help? how about whining? be a lifeguard if you are so concerned about someone cooking like a dosed-up pork rind or someone thinking they are aquaman!!!!!!!!!! volunteer to be a lifeguard and shout at people who are goofing off just make sure nobody has fun or formats their messages in a standard manner ^^^^ pete.sarcastic.bastard [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1993 18:40:39 -0500 From: Joe Turner Subject: Re: global grooves, sociological surveys >I should rephrase what I said - it was just that I didn't think some >of the questions, like "has a rave ever been a prelude to sex" are >going to yield answers that, however interpreted, are going to be >useful in a sociological survey or informative to people who aren't >familiar with raving Answers to that question could be incredibly useful - if many people answer in the negative, then the researcher could surmise that many people -don't- use raves as foreplay. Of course, to make it a valid question, you'd have to make sure to ask "Do you avoid sex during or after raves?", too. :-) /joe -|-|-|-|-|-|/\-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|- Joe Turner < > cutter@cs.umb.edu \/ In a black and white world, murder brings a touch of colour. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1993 18:52:25 -0500 (EST) From: Alan Michael Parry Subject: Re: Atlantis On Tue, 16 Mar 1993, Dave McMahon wrote: > I could care less if 'Manny's a jerk' or 'E'd out Teenagers are at risk > of drowning'. Its nice to see that there are still some loving and caring ravers out there. You may not care now but think what fun the media would have if it did actually occur - is it really worth the risk? Maybe if you ask Manny nicely, he'll let you help drag the bodies out of the pool after its over. --Fluid [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: Kristine Carrol Noel Subject: Curious.... Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1993 22:16:13 -0500 (EST) Hi.. I was just wondering if anyone knows the legalities of Nitrous Oxide.. As in dishing it out in like balloons and the like at Dead shows and raves... I know I've seen it done before, but how do they get away with it??? Any ideas? Thanks! Luv, The Kurious Kat :) [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1993 22:34:14 -0500 From: Joe Turner Subject: Re: Curious.... It is legal to buy it. I've done so many times. It is illegal to inhale it. /joe [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 16 Mar 1993 22:54:08 -0500 (EST) From: Derek Tiffany Subject: Re: Curious.... >Hi.. I was just wondering if anyone knows the legalities of Nitrous Oxide.. As far as I know, it's 100% perfectly legal in Va. and Wash D.C...I would assume most other places as well... later days and sunny rays, -----------------------+---------------------------+------------------------- Derek Tiffany | TIFFANYDE@URVAX.URICH.EDU | Join the SERAVES list! University of Richmond | djt0u@aurora.urich.edu |<= djt{zero}u@aurora... -----------------------+---------------------------+------------------------- or just plain dErEk if you prefer... [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1993 23:34:09 +0500 (EST) From: Greg Beckham Subject: Re: Curious.... well i know it is VERY illegal in NC... it varies from state to state.... peace out! greg --------------------------------------------------------------------------- - greg beckham - - - internet: gregbec@gibbs.oit.unc.edu - - - phone : 919-914-4702 - rave on! - - snail : 7 teague hall - - - unc-chapel hill - - - chapel hill, nc 27514 - - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 17 Mar 93 02:07:18 EST From: "Douglas B. Zimmerman" Subject: Rave-o-matic Hey everyone I have had personal matters and been away from school therefore unable to do the Rave-o-matic on time. I will have it out by tommrow 3 o'clock. doug ))))) ((((( dz5401a@american.edu [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: Dave Miller Subject: Re: Curious.... Date: Wed, 17 Mar 93 4:40:44 EST > > Hi.. I was just wondering if anyone knows the legalities of Nitrous Oxide.. It's legal to buy it in Ohio as well, and in fact there is a place that will deliver food from just about any restaurant around campus that also delivers nitrous canisters and balloons. Of course they're listed seperately so that they can't get in trouble I guess. And no, I haven't actually had this delivered to me. Dave -- d i g t h e m u s i c , k i d s . . . Dave Miller _________________________________dvmiller@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: "B.R.Smyth" Subject: Shamen Live. Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1993 11:00:29 +0000 (GMT) Hello Everyone, This is the first time I've sent anything to a mailing list! I hope I do it right! I'm off to Reading (a town just outside London in the U.K. ) to see the Shamen Live, I wondered have any of you seen the Shamen and what was the show like? Also, Have you ever gotten angry at anyone sitting reading your computer screen? It is the worst bad manners! Thanks, Bry. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: "B.R.Smyth" Subject: ?? (fwd) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1993 12:51:13 +0000 (GMT) Forwarded message: [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: "I.Sheldon" Subject: ?? Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1993 12:27:19 +0000 (GMT) Sorry for sending you this mail but you were the last 20 user ids who used the writeon program and so I thought I'd spread a little joy and happiness by mailing this to you... Anyway, you all know what to do with it... If it offends you, delete it. Otherwise, mail it onto 20 friends, or 20 complete strangers if you haven't got 20 friends! Bye! AC25@UK.AC.YORK.VAXA writes: > From AC25@UK.AC.YORK.VAXA Wed Mar 17 12:19:24 1993 > Date: Wed, 17 Mar 93 12:20 GMT > From: AC25@UK.AC.YORK.VAXA > To: CM5211@UK.AC.WOLVERHAMPTON.CCUB > Subject: ?? > > From: VAXB::MDB4 17-MAR-1993 12:02:32.84 > To: A, BIG_AL > CC: > Subj: ?? > > From: VAXB::TJE2 "THEY CALL HIM FLIPPER..." 17-MAR-1993 12:01:12.73 > To: CTM2, DMH10, DRKM1, MJB21, PMC1, PB11, ADN2, APB5, AGG3, CAJ3, CSG2, DGAS1, DIS4, DJA4, DMB6, MDB4, JRM9, MKF1, RDR2, SCS4 > CC: > Subj: > > > everyone needs a little help once in a while... > Dont send it to anyone ive sent it too allready, an dont send it back to me! > > Sorry if anyone takes offence, but you are the first 20 i found on my > friends file that i thought might laugh. > > > > From: CBS%UK.AC.NOTTINGHAM.COMPUTER-SCIENCE::ADS 17-MAR-1993 11:40:14.37 > To: tje2 > CC: > Subj: You definately need this help > > Via: UK.AC.NOTTINGHAM.COMPUTER-SCIENCE; Wed, 17 Mar 93 11:39 GMT > Received: from robin.cs.nott.ac.uk by marian.Cs.Nott.AC.UK id aa02939; > 17 Mar 93 11:35 GMT > To: tje2@uk.ac.york > Subject: You definately need this help > Date: Wed, 17 Mar 93 11:35:12 +0000 > From: Andrew David Smith > > > ------- Forwarded Message > > Received: from marian.cs.nott.ac.uk by robin.Cs.Nott.AC.UK id aa14771; > 15 Mar 93 18:40 GMT > Received: from robin.cs.nott.ac.uk by marian.Cs.Nott.AC.UK id aa15313; > 15 Mar 93 18:35 GMT > To: ads@Cs.Nott.AC.UK > Subject: I think you need this help. > Date: Mon, 15 Mar 93 18:35:27 +0000 > From: Pill > > > - ------- Forwarded Message > > Received: from marian.cs.nott.ac.uk by robin.Cs.Nott.AC.UK id aa11836; > 15 Mar 93 17:04 GMT > Received: from unicorn.nott.ac.uk by marian.Cs.Nott.AC.UK id aa11882; > 15 Mar 93 17:03 GMT > Received: by unicorn (4.1/SMI-4.1) > id AA07733; Mon, 15 Mar 93 17:03:33 GMT > Date: Mon, 15 Mar 93 17:03:33 GMT > From: "S.M.Edwards" > Message-Id: <9303151703.AA07733@unicorn> > Content-Type: binary > Content-Length: 8233 > Apparently-To: aeh@marian > > >From D.J.Cowley@vme.nott.ac.uk Mon Mar 15 16:32:54 1993 > Return-Path: > Received: from dir.nott.ac.uk by unicorn (4.1/SMI-4.1) > id AA06509; Mon, 15 Mar 93 16:32:53 GMT > Received: from vme.nott.ac.uk by dir.nott.ac.uk via JANET with NIFTP (PP) > id <24417-0@dir.nott.ac.uk>; Mon, 15 Mar 1993 16:31:46 +0000 > Date: Mon,15 Mar 93 16:32:02 GMT > From: D.J.Cowley@vme.nott.ac.uk > Subject: Forwarded message > To: emygse@unicorn.nott.ac.uk > Reply-To: lpyicma@psyc.nott.ac.uk > Comments: Here it is > Message-Id: <15_Mar_93_16:32:02_A11ADB@UK.AC.NOTT.VME> > > - - --- Forwarded message : > > Subject: Forwarded message > From: EEYIMPH@uk.ac.nottingham.ccc.vme > Date: Mon,15 Mar 93 14:17:23 GMT > Reply to: lpyicma@uk.ac.nottingham.psychology > To: EPXDJC@uk.ac.nottingham.ccc.vme > Comments: HI > Msg ID: <15_Mar_93_14:17:23_A1165D@UK.AC.NOTT.VME> > > > - - --- Forwarded message : > > Subject: Forwarded message > From: EEYIMPH@UK.AC.NOTTINGHAM.CCC.VME > Date: 15 Mar 93 13:59:24 > Reply to: lpyicma@uk.ac.nottingham.psychology > To: DMB9@UK.AC.YORK.VAXB > Comments: HI, FROM A FRIEND OF NICKS AT NOTTINGHAM > NO NOT JO > > ENJOY > MATT > Msg ID: <15 Mar 93 13:59:24 GMT A11592@UK.AC.NOTT.VME> > > - - --- Forwarded message : > > Subject: Forwarded message > From: EEYIJDB@uk.ac.nottingham.ccc.vme > Date: Fri,12 Mar 93 10:30:45 GMT > Reply to: lpyicma@uk.ac.nottingham.psychology > To: EEYIMPH@uk.ac.nottingham.ccc.vme > Comments: Matt here's a chain letter of the psychology department, now all I have to do is find another 19 people > Msg ID: <12_Mar_93_10:30:45_A11958@UK.AC.NOTT.VME> > > > - - --- Forwarded message : > > From: lpyicma@uk.ac.nottingham.psychology > Date: Thurs, 11 Mar 93 > Sender: lpyicma@uk.ac.nottingham.psychology > To: eeyijdb@uk.ac.nott.vme > Msg ID: > Received: from [128.243.31.51] by rpsyc.Psychology.Nottingham.AC.UK id aa23173; > 11 Mar 93 11:27 GMT > > > Received: from [128.243.31.1] by tpsyc.Psychology.Nott.AC.UK id aa28163; > 3 Mar 93 14:18 GMT > Received: from seqa.bris.ac.uk by rpsyc.Psychology.Nottingham.AC.UK id aa25088; > 3 Mar 93 14:16 GMT > Message-Id: <7328.9303031417@seqa.bristol.ac.uk> > Subject: You need all the help you can get !!! (fwd) > Sender: an2003@seqa.bris.ac.uk > To: Caroline M Anderson > Date: Wed, 3 Mar 93 14:17:33 WET > From: Wildman > X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] > > Forwarded message: > >From mauor@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 2 23:05:50 1993 > From: Mr D P Ellis > Message-Id: <13695.199303022304@clover.csv.warwick.ac.uk> > Subject: You need all the help you can get !!! (fwd) > To: an2003@uk.ac.bristol.seqa (B.P.Buckle) > Date: Tue, 2 Mar 93 23:04:07 GMT > X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL8] > > Forwarded message: > >From estaxfy@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 1 20:45:18 1993 > From: Mr T J Stidwill > Message-Id: <20861.199303012045@clover.csv.warwick.ac.uk> > Subject: You need all the help you can get !!! (fwd) > To: mauor@csv.warwick.ac.uk (David Ellis) > Date: Mon, 1 Mar 93 20:45:10 GMT > X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL8] > > Forwarded message: > >From S.J.Badham@bradford.ac.uk Fri Feb 26 23:01:51 1993 > Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1993 22:57:30 +0000 (GMT) > From: SJ BADHAM > Subject: You need all the help you can get !!! (fwd) > To: Mr T J Stidwill > Message-Id: > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > > > > > - - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1993 15:34:06 +0000 (GMT) > From: TKW PILKINGTON > To: compsoc-list@uk.ac.bradford > Subject: You need all the help you can get !!! (fwd) > > > > > > - - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1993 19:44:18 +0000 (GMT) > From: SA PRINGLE > To: T.K.W.Pilkington@uk.ac.bradford > Subject: You need all the help you can get !!! (fwd) > > > > > > - - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1993 21:01:26 +0000 (GMT) > From: RJ BOWYER > To: S.A.Pringle@uk.ac.bradford > Subject: You need all the help you can get !!! (fwd) > > > > > > - - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1993 16:39:41 +0000 (GMT) > From: N MARKLEW > To: Rachel Bowyer > Subject: You need all the help you can get !!! (fwd) > > I bet you already have this but if you receive it twice and mail 40 > copies, does that make the future twice as horny? > _____________________________________________________________________________ > > WITH SEX ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE > > This paper has been sent to you for good luck. The original has > been worn out from having passed through the hands of so many people. > It had travelled around the world 69 times [Dear Reader: please help > keep this count current. If this letter falls into your hands after > just completing one more circuit of the world, please add one to the > count.] > The luck has now been sent to you. You will experience great sex within > four days of receiving this letter, provided you send it on! Since the copy > must tour the world, you must make twenty copies and send them to others. > This is no joke. Send no money. Send copies to people who need to get > laid within 96 hours. > > After he passed this letter on, a Montana Spinach Control Officer got his > penis stuck in a cow-milking machine and had the longest series of orgasms > of his life. John Elliot tried to pick up a prositute, but, because he > broke the chain, was picked up by the police instead. When they searched > his home, they found magazines of little boys which they showed to his > neighbours. 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The letter did not leave her hands in 96 hours. > She finally typed the letter and found a man with a 10-inch penis. > (Only 10 ?-NM) > > You must distribute at least twenty copies within 96 hours of > receiving this letter. Those who do will find their love lives > more fulfilling. Those who do not will be doomed to one-night stands > with mechanical devices. > > Enjoy... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - - ----- End Included Message ----- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > - - --- End of forwarded message > - - --- End of forwarded message > - - --- End of forwarded message > - - --- End of forwarded message > > > > - ------- End of Forwarded Message > > > ------- End of Forwarded Message > > Have fun! --Shell JANET : cm5211@uk.ac.wlv.ccub INTERNET or UUCP : cm5211%ccub.wlv.ac.uk@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk Quote of the day: I am the anti-christ, that's what I was meant to be... Your god left me behind and set my soul to be free! -- Send all _new_ quotes to cm5211@ccub.wlv.ac.uk and they will be added to the quotes database as soon as possible! -- [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Subject: A few questions From: IO20903@MAINE.maine.EDU (N. E. Tableman; I want information autonomy!) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 93 09:44:04 EST a: what's up with DUNE? Does anyone know? I am interested because I want to go it is my first free weekend in a while! b: Moby- what d'y'all think? Should I purchase some records? I don't recall ever hearing Moby b4 but I just got a new stereo and want something new to play on it!!! C U L 8 R NeT [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 17 Mar 93 10:15:49 EST From: djm@bedford.progress.COM (Dave McMahon) Subject: Re: Atlantis > From brit@ravel.udel.edu Tue Mar 16 18:57:43 1993 > On Tue, 16 Mar 1993, Dave McMahon wrote: > > > I could care less if 'Manny's a jerk' or 'E'd out Teenagers are at risk > > of drowning'. > > Its nice to see that there are still some loving and caring ravers out there. > You may not care now but think what fun the media would have if it did > actually occur - is it really worth the risk? Maybe if you ask Manny > nicely, he'll let you help drag the bodies out of the pool after its over. I'm sorry, I should have qualified that comment with a better explaination. Of course I wouldn't want to see anything happen and if it did, I would be very upset. My point was: I could care less about all of the HYPE surrounding this party. If you go, then be careful and keep an eye out if you think it's that dangerous. dave. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 17 Mar 93 10:20:00 EST From: "John Speakman" Subject: Re: Shamen Hiya! Bry says: >I'm off to Reading (a town just outside London in the U.K. ) to >see the Shamen Live, I wondered have any of you seen the >Shamen and what was the show like? You're going all the way to Reading from Wolves just to see the Shamen? Wow. They played in New York a few months ago and I though the show was a bit crap, really. They were sort of half heartedly trying to whip up the crowd into a frenzy by acting like idiots. All the songs were carbon copies of the ones on record. Mr. C isn't bad at being a DJ though. Who's the support? John, the grinch. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1993 11:04:00 -0500 From: greg.ipp@rose.com Subject: T.O. Rave/Mayhem Date Entered: 03-17-93 10:54 [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] ====================================================================== ---------------------------------------------- EL.M.N.TRE PRODUCTIONS along with |\/|AYHEM presents "An Intimite Gathering of Many" Sat. Mar. 20th, 1993 call for details CHAOS CONNECTION (416)631-4738 the bottom line: 631-5475 for all events info. ---------------------------------------------- Join us for an evening of merriment, happy toons and delightful hardcore. Sat. Mar. 20th, Mayhem returns with Part 3 of the divine journey into BLISSFUL ADVENTURE Melodic Technicians Include: John E, Peter the Greek, Andy Roberts special guest DJ Dogwhistle special guest DJ's from N.Y. & L.A. $10 w/flyer $15 w/out 10pm - Sunrise ====================================================================== greg.ipp@rose.com / rev@cibbs.uucp * "I'll take your brain to another dimension..." --- RoseReader 2.10 P001297 Entered at [ROSE] RoseMail 2.10 : RoseNet<=>Usenet Gateway : Rose Media 416-733-2285 [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1993 11:04:00 -0500 From: greg.ipp@rose.com Subject: T.O. Rave/Delirium Date Entered: 03-17-93 10:54 [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] ===================================================================== ---------------------------------------------- Saturday March 20, 1993 DELIRIUM rave promotions presents >>> LUNATIC FRINGE <<< Delerium Info Line (416)760-3105 ---------------------------------------------- Controlling The Hardcore Hysteria: Jungle PhD, Ruffneck, Medicine Muffin, Marcus Spinning The House: Kenny Glasgow, Cubison, Anthony Blue, James St. Bass, Mike Stichon Attractions: Two Massive Sound Systems, Mind Altering Lights, Evian Bar, Smart Bar, Eats, X-Static Rave Merchandise, Friendly No Hassle Security, Visuals Galore, Sheer Raving Madness!!!! DELIRIUM EVENT LINE (416)760-3105 Give us a call for location details and upcoming Delirium events. Meeting Point Union Station Tickets: $10 Advance, plus $1 service charge, $15 at the door. Ticket Outlets: X-Static, Play De Record, The Bang, Soul Underground Bramalea City Ctr, Lots of Disc, Starsound, HMV Square One Miss. ====================================================================== greg.ipp@rose.com / rev@cibbs.uucp * "Floating on the ambience..." --- RoseReader 2.10 P001297 Entered at [ROSE] RoseMail 2.10 : RoseNet<=>Usenet Gateway : Rose Media 416-733-2285 [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 17 Mar 93 08:51:50 -0800 From: ccat@netcom.com (Chris) Subject: promotion for ravelist members _special promotional offer_ Because of the success of this idea on sfraves,I thought I'd offer the members of the other mailing lists a shot at this promotion too. For a few days last weekend,to commemorate the first anniversary of sfraves I offered the members of sfraves a chance to get the caselot price on either or both of my two nutrient mixes,Renew-You and Intellex. This is a significant savings normally only possible by buying a case or more (12 bottles) of each mix.This makes the price for Intellex about 31 cents a serving and the price for Renew-You about 38 cents a serving.(they come in 1/4 kilo - 83 serving bottles..) These are the same nutrient mixes used at NASA,Smartbar,numerous Bay Area and other raves,the Brain/Mind Journal,etc... They contain no caffeine, ephedra or fillers,and are not 60-90% sugar like some of the other products available.. (Most of my customers tell me there's no comparison.)They also carry $1,000,000 product liability insurance through my manufacturer,a large nutritional supplement manufacturer.They're pretty straightforward as far as formulation goes..for example,Intellex is very similar to "Mental Edge", a widely available formula from Source Naturals.(except that it's _considerably_ less expensive.) For those who would ask,there's nothing in my mixes that you can't get in a good health food store.. Contact me via e-mail for more specific pricing information. Only one bottle of each mix per customer,and please,this offer is only for members of the rave mailing lists.(you know who you are.) I'll honor this price through Friday.(March 19) . This offer gives people an opportunity to try my mixes at a lower than usual price.They're quite good,I think they speak for themselves. It's also good to support small,community oriented businesses,rather than outsiders merely trying to exploit financially,aspects of the rave scene. -Chris Beaumont (nutrient cafe wholesale) [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 17 Mar 93 12:18:50 From: jeremias@MIT.EDU (Jeremy Grainger) Subject: April 10 House FM ******************************************************************************* saturday april 10 HOUSE FM oLoWoP TerraPosse the true underground Family Tree ******************************************************************************* more details to come or write aran@mitvmc.mit.edu or jeremias@mit.edu (forwarded by jeremy) [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 17 Mar 93 12:41:41 EST From: Ciamac Moallemi Subject: ?? (fwd) Please don't waste people's time with nonsense like this. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 17 Mar 93 12:54:09 From: jeremias@MIT.EDU (Jeremy Grainger) Subject: April 10 House FM ******************************************************************************* saturday april 10 HOUSE FM oLoWoP TerraPosse the true underground Family Tree ******************************************************************************* more details to come or write aran@mitvmc.mit.edu or jeremias@mit.edu (forwarded by jeremy) [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 17 Mar 93 11:30:35 PST From: Bob Ramstad Subject: ** C2 tape announcement ** ** Connection II cassette ordering info ** DJs: Scott Hardkiss, Jon Drukman, Moonpup, Lee, BLURrrr 345 minutes (almost 6 hours!) of music on 4 BASF cobalt + (type II) tapes, recorded with Dolby HX pro. Mastered direct from the mixing board to DAT at 48 khz, then professionally duplicated, boxed with a full 4 color insert card and shrinkwrapped... suitable for gift giving... :-) There have been some very strong reviews of the music played at this event... and the master DATs sound great. $5 from each set will be donated to Malachy, a SF rave promoter who was involved (as a passenger) in an automobile accident after the last Full Moon Rave. He has extensive hospital bills and no insurance. The DJs have agreed to the release of this material with the understanding that $5 per set would go directly to benefit Malachy. To order, send $25 cash per set, in a security envelope or wrapped in carbon paper to: Bob Ramstad P.O. Box 390931 Mountain View CA 94039-0931 Include a LEGIBLE return shipping address on a separate piece of paper inside the envelope. If you have email access and would like email verification of the receipt of your funds and email status updates, send mail to c2%groovy@us.oracle.com like this: To: c2%groovy@us.oracle.com Subject: tape order --------------------------- 1 set jane@likethis.nyc.ny.us Jane Raver 988 Moby Dr New York, NY 02139 The address given ** must ** match the shipping address included with the payment. Wholesale inquiries (purchases of more than 20 sets) can also be sent to the PO box above, or emailed to me at boccibob%groovy@us.oracle.com (preferred) or rramstad@us.oracle.com. For everything to work out right, it's ** imperative ** that you place your order as soon as you can... if sufficient orders are not received by April 15th, I may be forced to refund everyone's money and withdraw this offer. Professional duplication and printing takes time, and also have minimum quantity requirements. The tapes will be shipped out by the end of May at worst, and hopefully earlier. I look forward to hearing from each and every one of you! Peace. Bob Ramstad, Pleasure Seeker boccibob%groovy@us.oracle.com (preferred) or rramstad@us.oracle.com "To rave is to affirm." [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1993 14:31:44 -0500 (EST) From: Alan Michael Parry Subject: !>--HOM-- Subject: connection II tapes if anyone is interested in some reallllly well mixed progressive house/trance then i'd highly recommend picking up these tapes...and experiencing some of the unknown (to us out east) west coast djs...they wowed me at connection..and i'm sure the tapes are gonna be really nice.. also, on the trance/acid note...keep your eyes out for the PLUS-8 records cd comp volume 2... with bands like fuse, speedy j, sysex...really incredible cd.. peace >>taylor.808 [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: pashdown@slack.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown) Subject: XDZebra Review #25 Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1993 15:32:36 -0700 (MST) XDZebra Review #25 Addiction 266 Delmar Ct. Salt Lake City, UT 84101-1817 When in Utah call the T A S T E hotline 801-461-3375. Trying to find these releases? Try Ear/Rational Music: FAX 805/893-8553, Phone 805/564-4949, email angst%cs@hub.ucsb.edu Back issues are available from me by mail or by ftp'ing to soda.berkeley.edu. They're in the pub/sfraves/music directory. This is all my opinion. Flames against a review are pretty pointless, so don't bother. Let me know if you have any other comments though. The number next to the index is the "dance factor". 5 = high, 1 = low XDZebra Reviews may be reproduced without permission under one condition, they remain intact and unchanged. If you publish this in print, mail me a copy via "Addiction". ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Review #25 Contents: Compilation 1 Psychick Warriors ov Gaia: Obsidian [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Compilation 1 Project Style: PK 08/01 (FAX +49-69/450464) 1 5 07:45 Deltraxx: Altered States (Unfused & Tuned) 2 4 06:39 Limelight: Limelight (Holy Guitar Mix) 3 4 06:07 Subsequence: Invocation (Dance 4 Trance Mix) 4 5 06:17 Hearts of Space: With a Medium Into Trance (Drop Out Mix) 5 4 06:07 SynSyl: Breakout II 6 5 05:23 4Voice: Music Hypnotizes (Hypnotizing Mix) 7 4 08:27 Escape: Escape to Earth 8 4 06:36 Sextant: Drug Oriented Society 9 2 09:49 Silence: Santur Comments: One of the oddest compilations I've purchased. It looks as if someone named Pete Namlook in Frankfurt gathered several of his favorite producers together and thus put out a compilation of his favorite music. The whole package is very homebrew, but what is amazing is the fact that it contains an astounding array of trance. Probably the best use of etherial vocals I've heard is presented by Deltraxx. Limelight and Subsequence aren't too shabby with the medium either. All of the tracks manage to stay trancey with a driving rhythm, except for "Santur" by Silence which is more Arabesque ambience. Summary: 9/10. Namlook states that if they ever has to compromise, he'll shut down the label. I'm anxious to see what the future brings. Psychick Warriors ov Gaia: Obsidian Kk-Records: KK090mcd 1 4 20:31 Obsidian (Deconstructure) 2 5 06:09 Patience (First Step) 3 4 08:49 Challenge (Kala Mix) Comments: PWOG starts to worry world record holders The Orb with a twenty minute remix of "Obsidian" from their album, "Ov Biospheres and Sacred Grooves". Nothing really new in style here for the Warriors. Exemplrary tribal rhythms with a slow as tar buildup is what the title track is about, and it sure feels good. "Patience" ironically jumps into the groove relatively quick, and as a result comes off as the most pumping track on the single. Last "Challenge" is immediate, but a lot deeper toned than "Patience". Summary: 9/10. I'm not sure if Cargo has picked this up domestically, but you do get a lot of time with this single, even at an import price. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Comments: A slight improvement over Vol. 1. I especially enjoy the tracks at the beginning. "Spikkels" is the best out of the lot, Speedy J has definitely shown that his trance is better than his hardcore recently. "Gates of Heaven" is simplistic, but moderately nice. "Location" is deep and moody, its rhythm line is almost out of place though. Things start to turn with G-Man though. Random bleeps, pounding beat, and nothing new, sort of a transition between the beginning trance to the ending hardcore. The rest of the tracks are fairly standard Plus 8 hardcore. Gary 7's "Let The Circle" is very ripping with a beat that threatens to bust cinderblock. Closing things off, Sysex gives a large hunk of sampled _Alien_ in "Dallas" which leaves you wondering what their motive was. "Fever" is fierce, but reminds me a lot of Moby's harder stuff. Last "Red Alert" by Cybersonik is pathetic, must have been thrown together in an afternoon. Summary: 7/10. There are a few better tracks than Vol. 1, but there are two tracks in particular which are just lame. Drome: Anachronism Pulse Soniq: SR9224 1 4 05:27 Optimism 2 4 06:55 Dreams 3 3 06:41 9to1 4 5 06:15 Drugs 5 3 05:39 Target 6 00:52 Tele... 7 2 04:00 Scanners 8 2 06:24 Disposition 9 3 04:03 M.O.B. 10 3 05:45 Anachronism 11 3 04:28 Shy 12 4 05:10 Information 13 00:55 Optimism Comments: A very dark, pulsing album from another band who looks like Sprockets. Much of Drome's sound is rehash, endlessly repeated soundbites which seem to lend any relevance to a theme. Where they especially excel is in their sculpting of noise into perfectly fitting additions to clockwork-like rhythms. The first track "Optimism" and "Dreams" are more upbeat than the rest which mainly stay in a darker ClockDVA realm. "Drugs" is especially interesting in moving from a bleepy trance into some serious hardcore. The latter half of the album really sags from hypnotic into bland. Summary: 7/10. If you like ClockDVA, you'll enjoy this. There are also elements similar to Aphex Twin, Biosphere, and PWOG. D-Shake: Nite & Day Go Bang/Sonic: SNC-2011-2 1 3 05:39 Club Mix 2 4 06:34 Hardcore Mix 3 4 04:52 Supersonic Mix 4 3 05:45 Knight at Nite Mix 5 3 05:40 Speedub Mix Comments: The problems with kids these days! Look at the crud they're listening to. Seriously, this is formula techno at its worst. This stuff makes me especially nauseas due to the fact that a particular local club DJ will grab garbage like this and play it for the next six months repeatedly. The mixes don't help either. D-Shake isn't as bad as some groups I've heard, but it is a real wool-over-the-eyes miracle that someone thinks they have enough talent to press several releases. Summary: 2/10. Not terrible, just not good. D-Shake doesn't have an innovative bone in their body. Exquisite Corpse: Reassembling Reality Kk-Records: KK029CDS 1 4 11:08 What a Life 2 3 07:15 Anxiety 3 3 08:43 Traditional Ties With Dreaming 4 3 08:49 Honeymoon Comments: A very surprising piece of work. With the name and the shoddy cover, I was half expecting gothic grunge to come wafting over my ears. What I found instead was highly hypnotic, at times beautiful, with a deep undercurrent of rhythm. Exquisite Corpse is very similar to label mates Psychic Warriors of Gaia, except it is more upbeat, but also at times too repetitive. It is a fine line between hypnotic and boring, Exquisite Corpse falls on both sides. "What a Life" is the best piece with two minutes of deep chords as an intro to a uppy, dancey, trancey melody, overlaid with different variations on the theme. "Anxiety" and "Traditional" tend to annoy with a sudden sharpness in instrumentation that seems out of place here, but are still mostly good. "Honeymoon" is musically the most bland of the four, but uses a Native American storyteller to good effect. Summary: 8/10. Tantalizing stuff, I'd like to see what else they come up with. Probe Volume 1 Probe Records: pro11 1 2 07:06 Circuit Breaker: Open Your Mind 2 3 07:43 Up!: Spiritual High 3 2 05:14 Public Energy: Three o' Three 4 2 05:04 Spawn: The Thinking Man 5 2 05:24 Deko!: Panik 6 3 04:31 Dbx: Annexia 7 4 05:13 0733: Record Bass Story 8 4 04:34 Texas Audio: Assassin 9 4 04:08 Public Energy: Hemi-Sync 10 4 04:30 Spawn: Tension 11 5 05:06 Circuit Breaker: Trac-X Comments: Hardcore, you know the bore. This compilation stands out as a prime example of dicking around with synths in order to make something releasable. Although they could be credited with not using the soundbite method of music production, they can't be credited for making anything especially interesting. Two of these tracks, "Open Your Miind" and "Assassin" date back many moons to the 1000 Ohm! comp, I'd suspect that everything else is similarly dated or leftover. Still, Public Energy's "Hemi-Sync" has some worth and Circuit Breaker's "Trac-X" is hard enough to overlook its repetition. Summary: 4/10. I can't recommend this at all. However, it isn't so bad that I'm going to get rid of it. Vicious Vinyl Techno-Rave Compilation Vicious Vinyl/Sonic: SNC-2012-2 1 4 05:57 Vertigo Hypo: Hypo Rhino 2 3 05:57 Ground Level: God Intended 3 4 04:49 Astral Project: Come With Me 4 3 05:25 Aqua Labs: So Good 5 4 05:03 Eternal: Mind Odyssey 6 5 05:57 Tomorrow People: Blood Rush 7 4 04:54 Vertigo Hypo: Sinewave Express 8 3 05:25 Ground Level: Out of Body 9 2 06:14 Cosmic Transmission: Force Feel 10 4 05:06 Eternal: Eternal 11 3 06:33 Tomorrow People: Spain Comments: I guess I should have been wary of anything containing the title "Techno-Rave", but this was on Sonic and all the music was from Australia's Vicious Vinyl, so I figured the combination of the two would help a little. Well, it didn't. Although there are a few gems here, they aren't that great, and everything else is in the standard clubhouse vein. Tomorrow People is the only name that could be worth looking into. Vertigo Hypo's tracks start promising, then rapidly die. Only other track of slight note is Aqua Labs "So Good" which uses the "You make me feel so good" sample AGAIN, but loses its charm in a hurry. Summary: 3/10. Standard fodder for the "Techno-Rave" buying masses. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1993 18:08:55 -0500 (EST) From: Francis L Sibilla Subject: Re: Shamen > Hiya! Bry says: > > >I'm off to Reading (a town just outside London in the U.K. ) to > >see the Shamen Live, I wondered have any of you seen the > >Shamen and what was the show like? > I saw them at the 9:30 club in DC over a year ago - They played with MOBY. He was good - They SUCKED. Fran [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 17 Mar 93 18:20:10 EST From: "Douglas B. Zimmerman" Subject: Rave-o-matic This is the Rave-o-matic for the week of Wed. March 17, 1993 X-tra special thanks to everyone for the info. Sorry about being late. But some things beyond circumstances. Will be out again next Tuesday.. enjoy doug ))))) a b00mingg baSS for a l0vingg race ((((( dz5401a@american.edu ========================================================================== NE-RAVES CALENDAR __________________________________________________________________________ UPCOMING RAVES: __________________________________________________________________________ Friday, March 19 PHLIADELPHIA, PA (215) 787 - 3306 COLOUR BOX Headstrong People Present C O L O U R B O X Friday March 19 9pm - 6 am Philadelphia 48 before midnight $10 after midnight MAGE (Headstrong People) DAYZ X-1 (digital Deviants) FRESHCO (Digital Deviants) DAN D.C. (Thunderground) SPIKE (Planet X) ADROK (Afterworld) INFO: SHAR-E & DAZ-E 215.787.3306 OZ 215.627.1913 DEAD BY DAWN 215.552.8833 Smart Bar By Joe Popi OZ / Front & Spring Streets / In the Spring Garden Plaza / 1 block from Delaware Avenue / next to El Stop 18 and over. No Bottles ___________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, March 20 ALBANY, NY (518) 272 - RAVE VERNAL EQUINOX Space productions presents: Vernal Equinox Celebrate the Rites of Spring Sat. March 20, 1993 11pm till dawn Lose your mind to the sounds of: Scott Richmond- Sputnik/Nasa Mr. Kleen- Satellite productions/Nasa DJ Space- WRPI's compresion Medecine Man- WSPN George Rodriquez- of Thee DJ Productions DJ Desi- Nebula/Rockland ----The first serious Rave in the Albany area------- -Chillout areas -SMARTBAR Multiple Media Visual Displays SONIC BODYWARPING PULSATING SOUND NON ALCOHOLIC -Big Dipper Rave Toys 6$ with invite (without invite-?) INFO/DIRECTIONS: Albany- 518-272-RAVE poughkeepsie Rave Line: 914-255-8517 Satellite Productions NYC: 212-465-3299 ..To be held at an 8000 sq. ft. wharehouse in Troy, NY. (15 min. from Albany) Address: 621 River St. From the North: Takew I-87 south to the route 7 east exit. From the South: take I-87 North to exit 23, which is 787 North, take that till you get to the route 7 east exit. From the East: take I-90 (Mass. Turnpike) West to 787 North, take that till you get to the route 7 East exit. From the West: take I-90 (NYS Thruway) East to exit 24 which is I-87 North, take this to the route 7 east exit. On route 7 east: Stay Right, follow sigh to downtown Troy, stay right take Hutton St. to the end, turn right onto River St., go under the bridge, it will be the 3rd wharehouse on the left- the "something" (didn't catch the name) City ____________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, March 20 BALTIMORE, MD (410) 563 - 7880 ULTRAWORLD V - COSMIC SPRING ultraworld presents cosmic spring saturday march 20th, 1993 spinning on the equinox... dj sun neuromancer entity ultraworld frankfurt-overdoz ultraworld who debo alvaro wink atomic mindwarp madrid philli. vibe boston visual stimuli by E-FORCE THEATRE ULTRAWORLD BAZAAR DOUBLE HELIX MOON BOUNCE SMARTBAR BY: SYNCRO-ENERGIZE NEURO-ENERGY GYROBIX $15 Admission you must be 18 to ride ultraworld line 410-563-7880 modern music balto. 410-523-1882 music now d.c. 202-638-1213 sound of market 2 philli. 215-627-4423 mindwarp boston 617-266-1987 planet x n.j. 908-249-0304 turbozen pittsburgh 412-621-7759 vinylmania n.y. 212-924-7223 dead by dawn philly 215-552-8832 ______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday March 20 WARWICK, RI (410) 621 - 7563 ATLANTIS SubMerge on March 20 A T L A N T I S We are a movement of Cybernauts seeking trancidental freedom on "the island in the net" Enter the temporary autonomous zone of Atlantis and melt into the fluid light of the Aquadome. DJs: Lenny Dee (Industrial Strength, NY) Onionz (Layaway, LI) Micro (Limelight LI) Overload (Deep-Blue, ME) Osheen (nova, RI) Rio (Glookos, NY) Submergence Zones - Beyond the volcanic dance flors: The AQUADROME, a multi-image light show and Heated Pool: caverns of Chill Chambers, Saunas, hot tubs, & Steam rooms. Optional RaveGear: Swin Stuff & Towel. Locer rooms available. Life guard on duty. High Priests to the Oracle - Mellow, Blue Crew, Wonderland Tribe, X3(cubed), Primal Posse, Alan, Dave, Emily, Scott, Apple Jack, Eric, Curious george, Christy, United Techno NO ALCOHOL Donations will be made to the Amos House and Alumni Association Principles before personalities...PEACE RI Info 410.621.7563 MA Info 617.748.8632 an ORACLE production TICKETS: $12 advance, $15 day of Available at: LunaSea (RI) 401.272.LUNA Rainbow Records (RI) 401.331.6660 Boston Beat (MA) 617.561.4790 Disc-o-Rama 12" techno 212.206.8417 (moe) Planet X (NJ) 908.249.0304 MusicNow (DC) 202.638.3272 Modern Music (MD) 410.523.1882 Zootz (ME) 207.773.6979 [Warwick R.I. is about a half hour drive south of Providence along I-95] ____________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, March 20 TORONTO, CAN. (416) 760 - 3105 LUNATIC FRINGE ----------------------------------------- Saturday March 20, 1993 DELERIUM rave promotions presents >>> LUNATIC FRINGE <<< Delerium Info Line (416)760-3105 ---------------------------------------- Controling The Hardcore Hysteria: Jungle PhD, Ruffneck, Medicine Muffin, Marcus Spinning The House: Kenny Glasgow, Subison, Anthony Blue, James St. Bass, Mike Stichon Attractions: Two Massive Sound Systems, Mind Altering Lights, Evian Bar, Smart Bar Eats, X-Static Rave Merchandise, Friendly No Hassle Security, Visuals Galore, Sheer Raving Madness!!!! DELERIUM EVENT LINE (416)760-3105 Give us a call for location details and upcoming delerium events. Meeting point Union Station Tickets:$10 Advance, plus $1 service charge, $15 at the door Tickets Outlets: X-Static, Play De Record, The Bang, Soul Underground Bramalea City Ctr, Lots of Disc, Starsound, HMV Square One Miss. _____________________________________________________________________________ Saturday. March 20 TORONTO, CAN. (416) 631 - 4738 BLISSFUL ADVENTURE ------------------------------------------------ EL.M.N.TRE PRODUCTIONS along with :\/:AYHEM presents "An Intimate Gathering of Many" Sat. Mar. 20th, 1993 call for details CHAOS CONNECTION (416)631-4738 the bottom line: 631-5475 for all events info. ------------------------------------------------ Join us for an evening of merriment, happy tunes and delightful hardcore. Sat. Mar. 20th, Mayhem returns with Part 3 of the divine journey into BLISSFUL ADVENTURE Melodic Technicians Include: John E, Peter the Greek, ndy Roberts special guest DJ DOgwhistle special guest DJ's from NY & L.A. $10 w/flyer $15 w/out 10pm - Sunrise ____________________________________________________________________________ Friday, March 26 WASHINGTON D.C. (202) 885 - 7092 SUNSHINE (202) 885 - 7135 Sunshine - The Perpetual Dawning of a New Era in the District Micro-Rave on the campus of the American University in Washington D.C. DJs: DJ SLIP (NJ) DJ PLASTECH (SF) DJ CHUCK (DC-AU) THIEU LE (UMD) DJ THIRTEEN (NJ) DJ PULSE (VA) DJ HAVOC (VA) DJ DOUGHS (heh heh heh) Starting March 26th, 10pm - till Sunshine Gianni Lounge, Butler Pavilion $5.00 Donation at the door. Oil projections, Virtual Environment Gear: Rob C. Smart Drinks by Inhuman & Ben Jaffee Lasers: Provided by UMD crew Any profits go to improving the techno collection at school radio station WVAU (event co-sponsored by WVAU) If anyone is interested in DJ'ing or helping out in any way e-mail either Susie K. (sk2479a@american.edu) or Doug Z. (dz5401a@american.edu) A C R A F T S M A N and Clueless production ____________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, March 27 NEWBURGH, NY (914) 565 - 5370 GREEN EGGS AND HAM DJs Newburgh, NY is about 1 1/2 hours Scott Henry (D.C.) North of New York City OnionZ (L.I.) Jason Jinx (NASA) Tickets: $15 dollars in advance James Christian (N.Y.C.) $18 dollars at the door On-E (Nasa) only a certain # of tickets printed. Reese (Primal) buy in advance. Door subject to ticket Overload (Flipside) sales. A portion of your ticket will be Rob Gee (N.J.) donated to With God's love we deliver," Matt Lawrence (Newburg) a program helping those who have AIDS and are bed ridden. bowl saking all night - bring pads - RI: tim o'keefe(508)226-2716 lunasea (401)272-LUNA BOSTON: "the other side" (617) 536- 9477 N.J.: dave s. (908) 972-8646 james t. (908) 777-7392 anthony boy (201) 288-7019 anthony danio (908) 972-2313 kristian s. (201) 748-0083 groove thing (201) 564-8868 N.Y.C: allan sanctuary (212) 696-8938 vinyl mania 9212) 463-7408 house (212) 677-7379 mike d. (212) 995-1574 joe exlax (212) 517-7072 STATEN ISLAND: rob rob (718) 876-7233 or 399-5050 BALTIMORE: scott henry (301) 474-4235 PHILLY: applejack & under (215) 602-2226 jenna (215) 757-0646 L.I: trepp (516) 758-8790 D.C. musicnow (202) 638-3272 michael c. (202) 638-5937 BROOKLYN: kyra (718) 232-7238 NEWBURG: hudson valley skate park john mennrich (914) 565-5370 _____________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, March 27 COMEUNITY Eternal Productions Presents ComeUnity More than a rave It's a celebration of life through Music and dance ( DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY MORE INFORMATION ON THIS ONE? ) _____________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, March 27 PAWTUCKET, RI (401) 454 - 6060 DUNE ............and there the Ancient Ones gathered upon the Sands. D U N E March 27, 1993 Experience a night of astonishing wonders featuring: DUTCh from San Francisco OShEEN OnionZ DALE CHARLES 401- 454 - 6060 ROAR WITHOUT EXCUSE !! ______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, March 27 BALTIMORE, MD (410) 523 - 1882 TRIPOTRONIC SENSORY OVERLOAD Moder Music presents: T R I P O T R O N I C S E N S O R Y O V E R L O A D march 27, 1993 10pm till 10 am Sensory overload arena 1 the Aphex Twin Scott Henry richard james, UK fever, citrus club Jeff Mills DJ Sun underground resistance Ultraworld, reptilian James Christian Live performance by Glitch storm rave, NYC cuts off their new 12" "trauma on industrial strength" Sensory overload arena 2 experience a landscape of sound, smell, vision, & touch designed to overload your sensory preceptions amazing 360 degree visiul immersion aroma therapy a masseuse on duty Overload DJ's: Mindphuq LG Bobble Wash Who Entity Gyrobix 3-d virtual reality Jolt Cola tickets are $15 and available at bus trip & out of state info modern music (Balt) 410-523-1882 MusicNow (DC) 202-638-3272 Sound of market 2 Philly 215-602-2289 Planet x,NY 908-249-0567 vinyl mania, NY 212-463-7120 NO TICKETS AT THE DOOR turbozen, pa 412-621-7759 for a better vibe only 2500 tickets will be available ______________________________________________________________________________ Saturdau, March 27 LONG ISLAND, NY (516) 547 - 6129 D.N.A. SIMON SAYZ & the Essence of Life Gereration bring you... D.N.A. Saturday, March 27, 1993 11pm to 8 am featuring frankie for up to date info BONES 516.547.6129 (storm rave, groove) only 999 tickets will be sold for MICRO this event / purchase tickets early (essence, caffeine) ALL tickets GUY DMC $12 each (dmc records) ONIONZ (essence, caffeine) promo DEBO eddie van raven*kort -n- gregg*x3 / o-tomic (mindwarp boston) dennis the menace*mello mello*simon sayz TRANCE (caffeine) credits RIDE jeff hansen*toast*rad brad*vinylmania (new jersey) dj records, groove records, caffeine||| tickets available at: long island * dj records * 516.667.1112 nyc * vinylmania * 212.463.7129 brooklyn * groove records * 718.714.5232 _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday April 2 PITTSBURG, PA MUTATION Recycled Productions presents Mutation Carnegie Mellon University Highlander/ Resnik Hall April 2 10 pm-4am DJs: Techno Terrorists (CMU) dieselBoy (PITT/METROPOL/BOMB) Simon (CMU) Dr. Seuss (BOMB) $5 Superchill, Lunatik's Chill Out Room Visuals by Tranceportation 2 Rooms, 2 Stories, 2 Phat lasers by STORCH 3 Watt Lasers VOLATILE Ravegear Master Blaster(tm) Sound System 12x12 PROJECTIONS Candee no alcohol no attitude stoopid drinks ______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 3 BURLINGTON, VT (617) 859 - 1775 REVERSE (802) 656 - 782? Global DJ's bring to you GLOBAL GROVES Dante (NYC) Dale Charles (San Diego) Overload (Portland) Mayhem (Boston) Kamate (Burlington) & Special Guest DJ's Boston Info Line Burlington Info Line 617-859-1775 802-656-782? ______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 3 WASHINGTON D.C. (202) 331 - 4465 BACK TO THE FUTURE M2 Productions wants to take you... BACK TO THE F U T U R E Saturday - April 3, 1993 festivities start @ 9pm dj's Scott Henry - fever, balt Frankie Bones - storm, ny Onionz - caffeine, li Michael Mecham - future, flinstone Lennie Dee - industrial strength Keoki - disco 200, ny Dave Trance - caffeine, li Strobe - euphoria, pa On-E - liquid sky, ny Sean McIlvain - flinstone, dc Jimmy Crash - storm, ny Ed Bailey - tracks w/afterhours Mr. Kleen - n.a.s.a., ny Lieven DeGeyndt - musicnow, ny Karl Matthews - matrix, dc Dave Wave - bar, ct Chris Herr - dc Debo - boston, ma Performing Live! N.R.G. with their first & only U.S. appearance "I need your loving" APHEX TWIN - R.S. Records Lights by New York's own SCOTTO Lighting design by Conceptions SMART BAR by NUTRIENT CAFE & Lewis Aronoft To Trip Your Senses MINDMACHINES The Largest Sound, Lights & Video ever 16 & Over assembled on the East Coast!!! "Stop your Heart Bass" by CONCEPTIONS Brought to you by... Mecham & McIlvain sponsored by Yogi Inc. Special Thanks to: Brian Kane, Z&R Fishman, Musicnow, A&A Graphics Colin Davies, Deanna, John Kadish, Autobahn Records, the staff and dj's from Future '92, Moby, Chris Cleen, Bobbie West & Scott Henry ay Yogi Inc. promotion by: Dennis the Mennis Eddie Van Raven, Rob Rave Mello Mello - blue crew Go Go & Daisy $16 tickets sold at Musicnow ONLY $18 at the door $1 off w/ a canned good items to benefit the AIDS food bank and the homeless portion of the proceeds will go to Wildlife Preservations Bus Trip and Rave info: Turbozen - pittsburgh 412.621.7759 Joint Ventures - new york - 212.631.1065 Applejack - philli - 215.602.2226 US Rave Team - philli - 412.373.6863 Concept Records - boston - 617.556.5325 Musicnow - DC - 202.638.3272 Mello Mello - new york - 212.631.4290 For All Info Call 202.331.4465 ______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 17 PORTLAND, ME (207) 773 - 6979 GRIN K.C. and the Sunrise Gang, together with Pandemonium, brought you Crusade, Sky High and Deep -- Now let us make you GRIN Saturday, April 17, Portland, ME Fully legal warehouse space overlooking the Atlantic With special guests: Frankie Bones (Storm/Brooklyn) Tin Tin (Energy/U.K.) Overload (Deep/Sky High/Portland) Dante (Evolution/N.Y.) Dale Charles, Evar (San Diego) M-gee (Rise/Primary/London) PLUS OTHERS TO COME For more info call (207)773-6979 Full-color flyers available in March woth N.Y., Boston, R.I. & N.H. bus info. Available through MelloMello, VinylMania, Planet X, Groove Records, Boston Beat, The Other Side Cafe, Lunacy, Rock Bottom Records & Bad Habits. OR, mail self-addressed envelope to GRIN, c/o ZOOTZ, 31 Forest Ave, Portland, ME 04101 _____________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 24 BOSTON, MA (617) 629 - 0777 FIELDS OF JOY Presented by Never Neverland Productions We support B.U.S. Info coming soon(617) 629-0777 _____________________________________________________________________________ Earth Day PROVIDENCE, RI (401) 751 - 5695 EARTH DAY RAVE Earth Day Rave -- April 1993 Home Planet SAT Night Rehersals & Production join us Media Circus 401-751-5695 _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, May 1 LONG ISLAND, NY ESSENCE.. "the second coming" * mayday '93 ______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, May 8 BALTIMORE, MD (410) 523 - 1882 TRIPOTRONIC 7- MAY DAY FEST ______________________________________________________________________________ Fri-Sun May 21-23 VERMONT ELEVATION elevation- a weekend long rave held in a ski resort may 21-23 in vermont (smugglers notch) 2 arena's- main area- on the mountainside confirmed dj's: onionz dante jason jinx wink a place called bliss james christian alx of london disco dan mayhem osheen jason (mouse) arena two- in a lodge- anyone who wants to spin can schedule for a time and go to it. tickets are $40 for the entire weekend $99 for the weekend including lodging and access to the pool, hot tubs, tennis, racketball, ect. $cheaper id you come after 8pm on Saturday (comment from camper) more dj's unconfirmed, but lets just say that san francisco djs are being considered. (good ones) _____________________________________________________________________________ Fri-Mon June 18-21 NEW YORK STATE 1 - 800 - 4RAVE - LINE RAVESTOCK _____________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, June 26 EAST COAST FROSTED RAVE (from Tarek Elnaccash, TWE5495@ACFcluster.NYU.EDU) prepare yourselves for.... F R O S T E D R A V E June 26 3000 ravers expected Suprise DJ list/live acts to be announced Location to be announced tickets will be $15 strictly advance sale only, Discount prices for members of NE-Raves, Mindcandy, and Fuzzy Logic are available Made for people who party by people who party. This is our rave! Members od NE-R/MC/FL can purchase tickets for $5 donations. These discount tickets will hwlp us cover start up costs and must be received by the end of May. The discount tickets are available only to the first 300 people who send for them. Ticket orders can be sent to me (Tarek Elnaccash 55e 10th st rm 1507 Ny,NY 10003) Flyers for this event/regular tickets will be available soon at record stores around (complete info will be listed soon) If you dont want to wait send your flyer request to: M I N D C A N D Y c/o Vitamin Love 111 Hackensack Plank Rd Wee. N.J. 07087 Anybody requesting the flyers will receive a free copy of the MINDCANDY rave newsletter (aprox. 20 pages) Peace to all Ravers FROSTED RAVE will be the first collaboration of the three Techno-Tribes. The unification of the REAL RAVERS. ____________________________________________________________________________ [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1993 19:37:16 -0500 From: ncp@csmvax.simmons.edu (Neith Preston) Subject: Ride to Atlantis Help, please! Polida and I need a ride from Boston to Atlantis and back!!! We are very small and don't take up very much space... e-mail me at ncp@csmvax.simmons.edu and let me know if you can give either or both of us a ride! Love and Frogs!!! Neith [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1993 19:54:19 -0500 (EST) From: Alan Michael Parry Subject: INFO There seems to be some confusion over what the HOM is here for.. The following is all relevant.. 1. where you will be going to 2. if you have space for other ravers 3. info if you NEED a ride somewhere 4. other info such for meeting with other ravers such as clothing, ne-raves badge etc. 5. if you are willing to let me people crash afterwards/before etc. 6. anything else you feel we ought to know.. Thanks all...... Fluid =) [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 17 Mar 93 20:54:05 EST From: susie Subject: march in dc hiya people...i just wanted to invite people who are comming out here for the gay/lesbian/bisexual rights march on april 25 to email me to let me know they are comming and if they need a place to crash...doug and i are willing to host as many people as we can(we live in a dorm but there are lots of lounges!)... also depending on what the promoters shove at us...hopefully we can find a good rave to take everyone too...so email me at sk2479a@american.edu...we live righ t near a metro station...on the fine campus of the (un)american university... one thing that i do ask though is to be sensative to the fact that i will be about 1 week away from finals...(: partyon...susie (: and doug (: [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 17 Mar 1993 20:57:00 -0400 (EDT) From: PSYCHEDELIC BLANKETS Subject: Re: Shamen Live. The shamen are INCREDIBLE live. I saw them play with Utah Saints and Moses on Acid at the Paladium in NYC. Have you noticed that a lot of their later songs are cheeze- i mean REAL cheeze [Z-100 material!] Well guess what-they dont play it! All those songs that were obviously made to appeal to mainstream house-oriented audiences get drastically remixed for the live shows. And songs like 'move any mountain' and 'make it mine' sounded much much better live [i think the live versions were the MOBY remixes of those songs]. They did a a really cool light show, too. Of course, the paladium does have really good lights,but i bet they can play much better places in London [that's where you're heading, right?] since they're more popular over there. The lead singer looked like he was tripping out of his mind the night i saw them. Give us a report of the show when you get back. Totally blanketized, Tarek [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 17 Mar 93 20:54:05 EST From: susie Subject: march in dc hiya people...i just wanted to invite people who are comming out here for the gay/lesbian/bisexual rights march on april 25 to email me to let me know they are comming and if they need a place to crash...doug and i are willing to host as many people as we can(we live in a dorm but there are lots of lounges!)... also depending on what the promoters shove at us...hopefully we can find a good rave to take everyone too...so email me at sk2479a@american.edu...we live righ t near a metro station...on the fine campus of the (un)american university... one thing that i do ask though is to be sensative to the fact that i will be about 1 week away from finals...(: partyon...susie (: and doug (: [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1993 21:55 EST From: Luff Subject: da march Hey... and for those of you who don't want to go down to dc overnight... wellesley's having a bus trip go down--it will cost between $25 and $40-- we're not sure yet. So if you're in the Boston area, I can either get you on our bus or give you info. on other buses that are leaving the area, who are also only going down for the day. (Leaving Saturday night, getting in d.c. about 9am, then leaving d.c. around 5 or 6pm, and arriving back at Boston/Wellesley around 4am on Monday ). --Jetta. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 17 Mar 1993 22:30:07 -0400 (EDT) From: an excursion through technospace Subject: 68000 has anyone ever heard that band 68000? their cds LOOK cool.. and they're piquing my curiosity.. but, i was wondering what they sounded like before i went out to buy.. thanks you. >>taylor.808 [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Subject: Re: +8 comp (was re: connection ii tapes) From: Rob H Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1993 22:36:40 -0500 > also, on the trance/acid note...keep your eyes out for the PLUS-8 records cd > comp volume 2... with bands like fuse, speedy j, sysex...really incredible > cd.. > I second this.. The CD (From our minds to yours, vol 2) has some really nice trance tracks as well as hardcore. Dallas by Sysex sticks out in my mind because it's a good example of non-gratuitous sampling -- the sample and the music support each other nicely... All in all, a good buy... > > > peace > > > >>taylor.808 > Rob rhwang@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: sklar@picasso.ocis.temple.edu (Dave Sklar) Subject: Re: 68000 Date: Wed, 17 Mar 93 22:52:45 EST > has anyone ever heard that band 68000? their cds LOOK cool.. and they're > piquing my curiosity.. but, i was wondering what they sounded like before i > went out to buy.. > Yup yup yup. I bought their 12" of Vivid for $1 at a record store in New Haven. It's pretty good--a very gooshy bass, cool to dance to. I like it. Dave [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 17 Mar 93 23:14:50 -0500 From: dammira1@cc.swarthmore.edu Subject: purchasing nitrous Does anyone know at what sort of outlets one purchases nitrous oxide? Some friends and I are having a party and were curious about getting some. If anyone knows of any particular places in the Philadelphia area I'd be interested to hear of them. Thanks- Nick A. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Thu, 18 Mar 93 01:15:03 -0500 From: jna@silver.lcs.mit.edu (looking for someone) Subject: Re: promotion for ravelist members Please Don't Use MY list and the bandwidth and money of the National Science Foundation and MIT in promoting products on the internet. It violates the rules of use. If your sysadmin was notified, you would surely lose your account. Nothing personal, but I have to protect my intrests. -john [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: "Golden Boy" Date: Thu, 18 Mar 93 08:57:29 CST Subject: OBA OBA review W W OOOOOOOO W W ! W W W O O W W W ! W W W W O O W W W W ! W W W W O O W W W W ! W W W W O O W W W W ! W W OOOOOOOO W W ! +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ <> deb9@pop.cwru.edu "Stand by to launch remote control attack ship" "Launch ship in orbit" "Good, now I'll activate it's weapons ![ha ha ha ha ha]" [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: Colin Blakeman II Date: Thu, 18 Mar 93 14:31:14 GMT Subject: subscribe please SUBSCRIBE COLIN BLAKEMAN [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1993 10:51:32 -0500 (EST) From: Kenny Eng Subject: st.patricks's day rave last night, went to the local pittsburgh club metropol, for Alien Nation rave-invasion of da little greenmen. dieselBoy spun some wicked breakbeat, as the approximately 500-600 ravers and clubbers danced to da groovy beats. ravers dr. slammin, matt drown, lunatik, raver909 were in attendance. also dj'ing was dj mindfuck from cleveland, who started the crowd off with this dope song, percolator (i am the percolator, i am the percolator...). also heard this song, with a woman singing, "i am the secretary, i type all day" and you can hear keys being typed on in the background (phat). metropol is starting to have raves twice a month now, it is gonna be called twice, with our own dieselBoy headlining, so all you ravers within distance of pittsburgh, come down and experience it!!!! oh yeah, last night ended at 2:30 am, so it wasn't all that hot in terms of when it ended. if you're reading this, dieselBoy, i sure hope you are gonna dj frosted rave, cause since i live in nyc, i won't be hearing too much breakbeat over the summer. a breakbeat a day keeps the doctor away. later guys and gals!!!! kenny [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: Jesse Brook McCune Subject: Re: st.patricks's day rave Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1993 11:06:08 -0500 (EST) GO PITTSBURGH!...YEAH!...get ready for me this summer! :) Live on...love on...rave on... -Sunshine ============================================================================== | I am Sunshine... || I am the boy who made her heart || Jesse B McCune | | @ @ || feel happy, and shines like the sun! || WPI Box 609 | | \_/ ||======================================|| Worcester, MA | | on a cloudy day! || mccune@wpi.wpi.edu PH#:(508)791-3345 || 01609 | ============================================================================== I NEEEEEEEEEEED your lovin'... [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Thu, 18 Mar 93 12:33:47 -0500 From: jna@silver.lcs.mit.edu (jna) Subject: Re: st.patricks's day rave KE> percolator...). also heard this song, with a woman singing, "i am the KE> secretary, i type all day" and you can hear keys being typed on in the KE> background (phat). This is that huge hardcore track, if I remember it right.. -john (off to play with his new argon :) ) [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: pashdown@slack.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown) Subject: Re: +8 comp (was re: connection ii tapes) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1993 11:18:42 -0700 (MST) > Dallas by Sysex sticks out in > my mind because it's a good example of non-gratuitous sampling -- the > sample and the music support each other nicely... You've got to be kidding me. A full minute sample of dialog from _Alien_ isn't gratuitous? There isn't even any music done with it. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 18 Mar 1993 13:16:01 -0500 (EST) From: S72UARI@TOE.TOWSON.EDU Subject: EXPAND?? THE OTHER DAY, I FRIEND TOLD ME ABOUT A RAVE OR SOMETHING "EXPAND" (AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT I THINK IT'S CALLED). ANYWAY, SHE GAVE ME THE NUMBER AND I CANNOT FIND WHERE I WROTE IT DOWN. ALL I KNOW IS THAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE SOMEWHERE IN BALTIMORE. DOES ANYONE KNOW ABOUT THIS? GENIE BEANIE [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: pashdown@slack.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown) Subject: 68000 Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1993 11:39:24 -0700 (MST) > has anyone ever heard that band 68000? their cds LOOK cool.. and they're > piquing my curiosity.. but, i was wondering what they sounded like before i > went out to buy.. I bought their album and one of their singles in this last batch, and will review it for #26. So far I'm unimpressed. Pretty standard stuff between house and hardcore. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1993 13:49:46 -0500 (EST) From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: st.patricks's day rave (187- Mobile Live Techno Vibes) On Thu, 18 Mar 1993, Kenny Eng wrote: > last night, went to the local pittsburgh club metropol, for Alien Nation > rave-invasion of da little greenmen. dieselBoy spun some wicked > breakbeat, as the approximately 500-600 ravers and clubbers danced to da > groovy beats. ravers dr. slammin, matt drown, lunatik, raver909 were in > attendance. also dj'ing was dj mindfuck from cleveland, who started the > crowd off with this dope song, percolator (i am the percolator, i am the > percolator...). also heard this song, with a woman singing, "i am the > secretary, i type all day" and you can hear keys being typed on in the > background (phat). Naw Kenny, it was "It's time for the percolator, its time for the percolator." > metropol is starting to have raves twice a month now, it is gonna be > called twice, with our own dieselBoy headlining, so all you ravers > within distance of pittsburgh, come down and experience it!!!! oh yeah, > last night ended at 2:30 am, so it wasn't all that hot in terms of when > it ended. Wow,, dieselBoy is going to headline each one? Most excellent. Kenny, even though it ended at 2:30 there was an afterhours gathering at a place in the Mexican War Streets. It was packed too. Mostly people from out of town , Cleveland, Cinncinatti, etc. > if you're reading this, dieselBoy, i sure hope you are gonna dj > frosted rave, cause since i live in nyc, i won't be hearing too much > breakbeat over the summer. a breakbeat a day keeps the doctor away. > later guys and gals!!!! > kenny I think he'll get the message. Joe (187- Mobile Live Techno Vibes) [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1993 13:57:07 -0500 (EST) From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: st.patricks's day rave (187- Mobile Live Techno Vibes) On Thu, 18 Mar 1993, Jesse Brook McCune wrote: > GO PITTSBURGH!...YEAH!...get ready for me this summer! :) > > Live on...love on...rave on... > > -Sunshine Yeah!!!!! And a PHAT summer in Pittsburgh it will be. I have heard of some cool stuff that's being planned. If you want a preview go to Mutation at CMU on the 9th of April or the High Voltage Rave (to be announced). Guaranteed Satisfaction as our scene hasn't exploded into the multi thousand, frat boy, trip over beer bottles on the floor, vibe terminating atmosphere yet. (No offense to anyone in any of the towns with such a scene) There are alot of transplants that live here from New York, Philly, Detroit, DC, etc so things are getting pumped up. Joe [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: Nicole E Stanbridge Subject: Help!!! Date: Thu, 18 Mar 93 14:45:23 EST Alright, it is time for me to spread my word all over this list. I have been a subscriber for about two weeks now and htis is the most fly group of people i have ever encountered. You all make me sick because I am stuck here in lamm old Michigan and you are all on the East Coast. The only truelly true place to be. Actually the rave scene is pretty good in Detroit but doesn't hold a finger to you guys. There is a lot going on with the scene but not to the magnitude that it could be. So what the hell is one to do, being stuck here in Mich. with no way to the East Coast until I start grad school out there. Somebody please resuce me and get me the hell out of this hole!!!!! Anyways I was wondering if you all know of the scene here or even here about it every now and then. Plus Wolly here has a pilot's liscence and we were looking to fly out the coast for the weekend for the ultimate rave but I am the only one connected to this list so I need to get some info. Where, when, why, how, WHO!!! Where is a good place to crash our tired rave butts afterwards too? Also, anyone out there interested in hearing about the scene up here in Detroit and the area. Let me know Wondering what color the sky is your worlds?? Pandora [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: nivekogr@Athena.MIT.EDU Subject: Secretary/Atlantis Date: Thu, 18 Mar 93 15:03:51 EST Kenny and John: KE> percolator...). also heard this song, with a woman singing, "i am the KE> secretary, i type all day" and you can hear keys being typed on in the KE> background (phat). >This is that huge hardcore track, if I remember it right.. >-john The first time I heard this was courtesy of Adam X at Blue. The track really stood out in his set due to the completely incongrous sample. This coupled with the usual four-on-the-floor hardcore pounding and perhaps the sense that everyone was about as far away from the mundane worries the sample portrayed at the particular time caused everyone to go totally mental. Haven't heard it since then except on the really REALLY poor quality tape I made of both Adam X & Lenny Dee's sets from a little portable walkman suitably hidden. Spoke to a friendly and somewhat forthcoming Manny last night re: Atlantis. He states that they are currently looking for another pool but he is leaning towards holding the event at the original place sans pool. From his description, the pool area was actually an addition to the structure with a fairly flimsy bubble over it - which collapsed during the storm. This area would have functioned as a chill area [MOST definitely!] while there was a main music area (a weight room) and a number of smaller themed areas where the main room music can still be heard (racquet ball courts!!). He also said he had the license and all six DJs were confirmed. He SAID. The guy who is organising the busses from Boston [Mario Jr.] has one bus full and is attempting to fill up another bus. His number was contained in a message about 50 messages back. Sounds like fun to me. -Chris Teixeira "I'm a theoretical physicist and I derive all day." [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Thu, 18 Mar 93 12:04:40 PST From: Bob Ramstad [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Thu, 18 Mar 93 12:16:06 PST From: Bob Ramstad Subject: ** C2 tape announcement addendum ** For Connection II cassette orders, acceptable forms of payment are cash in a security envelope or carbon paper (greatly preferred), money orders or cashiers checks. Also, if you are interested in buying a set, it's really important that you put your order in the mail as soon as possible -- most likely, there will not be many "extra" sets made up for later sale. I will absolutely fill all orders received at the PO box before April 15th. If I receive your order after April 15th, I may end up refunding your money, though I'll try to fill your order. I'm shooting for a tape shipment date of the 15th of May, so most people in school should be able to use their school address. Shagga rasta, Bob Ramstad, Pleasure Seeker boccibob%groovy@us.oracle.com (preferred) or rramstad@us.oracle.com "To rave is to affirm." [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 18 Mar 1993 15:37:08 -0400 (EDT) From: DJESRANI%COLGATEU.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu Subject: N E B U L A Hey people. You should come to Poughkeepsie on Saturday March 27th. There's a small event planned (300-400 people max) in a good, legal space, with a good sound system, and excellent DJs. The DJs scheduled (as far as I know right now) are Scott Richmond (trance, tribal, progressive house), Mr. Kleen (NASA - you know what goes on..), Stephan (Hardcore, breakbeat..), and Dimitry (from Deee-Lite..). I don't think tickets will be more than $5. Call the Poughkeepsie rave line, and I think they'll have more info for you. The number is 914/255-8517. Hope to see you all there, checkin' the vibe. Darshan djesrani@center.colgate.edu ..space is the place. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: nivekogr@Athena.MIT.EDU Subject: Re: Secretary/Atlantis Date: Thu, 18 Mar 93 15:58:20 EST Oh yeah, directions to Atlantis. The directions contained with advance tickets are to the original place in Warwick. Manny said since there's still a SLIGHT chance it'll be moved people should call the various info lines starting from tomorrow aft. to find final directions (the alternate place is in Pawtucket WTFTI). I don't have a ticket yet so I don't know the original directions (sorry). -Chris Teixeira WTFTI - Wherever The That Is [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1993 16:36:17 -0500 (EST) From: mike perkowitz Subject: techmaster PEB ? anyone heard/heard of the cd techmaster PEB - bass computer? what do you think of it? thanks, mike [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1993 16:37:47 -0500 (EST) From: mike perkowitz Subject: Re: Secretary/Atlantis On Thu, 18 Mar 1993, nivekogr@Athena.MIT.EDU wrote: > (the alternate place is in Pawtucket WTFTI). pawtucket is just north of providence on 95. closer for boston and providence people... mike [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Thu, 18 Mar 93 16:51:54 From: jeremias@MIT.EDU (Jeremy Grainger) Subject: TONIGHT: BOSTON PSYCHEDLIC/UNITY This Way Out! A Multi-Media Voyage to an electronic revolution presented by Generator in association with WZBC 90.3 FM & Sly Cat. Thursday's Opening MARCH 18, 1993 CEREBRAL HEADQUARTERS 10 PM - 2 AM xtra rare trax & live electro improvisation by Andrew Wolf (WZBC) and George Bolton (WEBCOR) fractal film "Retina Burn" by Frank Coleman Visual Landscape by Chris Kane Tactiles by Kei Egan and David Hochbaum Pure Liquid Love provided by the Cyberdelicatessen DEEP & PROGRESSIVE HOUSE & TECHNO in the MindSet Net Room 11 PM - 2 AM DJ Mayhem (Rise/Loft) DJ Sean Strong (formerly DJRudeBoy, Axis Tues) at EUROPA 51 STuart St. Boston in Theatre district, one blocks toward Chinatown from Tremont St. info 482-3939 [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: "Golden Boy" Date: Thu, 18 Mar 93 16:50:11 CST Subject: Re: techmaster PEB ? On Thu, 18 Mar 1993 16:36:17 -0500 (ES, mike perkowitz wrote: > >anyone heard/heard of the cd techmaster PEB - bass computer? what do you >think of it? > >thanks, > >mike I have the CD...it'z pretty funky...not really dance music...some halfway decent trancy type stuff...sorta like hip hop techno...serious serious bass !!! when I had the CD player and 2 300w 15" pylez put into my car they said that if I played that CD with too much bass...my speakers would last about 3dayz...they weren't joking :)...the CD even has a warning label on the cover that warns of possible damage to speakers...it isn't your "typical" type of techno...but I'm an ecclectic... peace. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ <> deb9@pop.cwru.edu "WOW, man, I didn't know that grape jelly was the antichrist" [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1993 17:11:51 -0500 (EST) From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: Help!!! On Thu, 18 Mar 1993, Nicole E Stanbridge wrote: > Alright, it is time for me to spread my word all over this list. I have been a > subscriber for about two weeks now and htis is the most fly group of people i > have ever encountered. You all make me sick because I am stuck here in lamm > old Michigan and you are all on the East Coast. The only truelly true place to Yo, hey, Nicole, why aren't you on the mw-raves list? It covers the midwest. :) Joe (187- Mobile Live Techno Vibes) [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1993 19:01:10 -0500 (EST) From: Alan Michael Parry Subject: this & that Just made a visit to my local record store and came up with a load of great stuff. If anybody is interested in and hasn't been able to any of the following, it shouldn't be a problem. Aphex Twin - Analogue Bubblebath Vol 3 ($10!) In Order to Dance 4 comp. (CD/VINYL/MC) Aphex Twin - Universal Indicator EPs and much much more.....let me know if you are interested. --Fluid [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Subject: Re: my article-plug in to th erave socket Date: Thu, 18 Mar 93 19:12:19 EST From: SHALAKO (technokachina) "Just open up your mind. Let the music inside. If you let your mind go, Your body will follow." I know it all to well...mmmm... "Music was my first love, And it will be my last. Music of the future, And music of the past." a few favorite techno samples for your smiles... *i'm looking for a pair of used turntables and a mixer, any sellers? *...thanx u munch... lovE...pEAcE...rAvE! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ .never.stop.dancing.loving.thinking.sharing.hugging.smiling.listening.raving. S H A L A K O < < t e c h n o k a c h i n a > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ .ambient.trance.hard-trance.loveliness-jungle-tribal.rudest-raw-breaks. .mindfuck-acieeed.wicked-roots-spiritual-raggamuffin.progressive-house. .music for the mind, body, and soul, brothers and sisters. sscoen@athena.mit.edu shannon coen 617.225.8317 410 memorial drive cambridge, ma. 02139 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Thu, 18 Mar 93 18:54:00 From: jeremias@MIT.EDU (Jeremy Grainger) Subject: 808/MBM Rumor heard on radio today; 808 State Meat Beat Manifesto and Supreme Love Gods Middle East Downstairs, Cambridge MA April14 or 15? [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 18 Mar 93 20:08:00 EST From: "John Speakman" Subject: Global Grooves ....is definitely on this Saturday, rescheduled from last Sat, Warehouse X, W 19th St and West Side Hwy, NYC 11pm-10am w/Scott Henry, James Christian, DJ reese, Denard, Troy, Frankie Bones and all the other usuals, 212 696 8938... er, that's it. John. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1993 22:40:34 -0500 (EST) From: Alan Michael Parry Subject: HOOKUP-O-MATIC ========================================================================== HOOKUP-O-MATIC FOR 3/19 3/20 ========================================================================== Okay boys and girls, here is the HOM for this weekend. Thanks to all who sent something in this week..maybe we can get it working again. There's lot to do this weekend so have fun and be good. Also, if your planning on going to Atlantis - NO DROWNING! ;) - Fluid ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Friday, March 19th Inhuman (INHUMAN@Mindvox.phantom.com) -- CAREFREE Ben Jaffe -- CAREFREE Dave McMahon (DJM@Bedford.progress.com) -- RISE Mr Sparkle (KZIMMERMAN@eagle.wesleyan.edu) -- THE LOFT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Saturday, March 20th VERNAL EQUINOX Albany, NY INFO# (518) 272 RAVE DJs| Scott Richmond (NASA), Mr Kleen (NASA), DJ Space (Compression), Medicine Man (WSPN), George Rodriguez (Thee DJ), DJ Desi (Nebula). Darshan (DJESRANI@Center.Colgate.edu) *turntable calibration disk! Manish (MS5224@Albnyvms.bitnet) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Saturday, March 20th ULTRAWORLD V - COSMIC SPRING Baltimore, MD INFO# (410) 563 7880 DJs| DJ Sun (Ultraworld), Neuromancer (Frankfurt), Entity (Ultraworld), Who (Atomic Vibe), Debo (Boston), Alavaro (Madrid), Wink (Philly). Fluid (BRIT@Ravel.udel.edu) *ne-raves badge Fran (FRAN@Ravel.udel.edu) *long purple hat Dave Sklar (SKLAR@Picasso.ocis.temple.edu Derek Tiffany (TIFFANYDE@Urvax.urich.edu) *dressed as night & day! + girlfriend (Derek may also be able to offer rides to 2-3 people!) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, March 20th ATLANTIS Warwick, RI INFO# (410) 621 7563 DJs| Lenny Dee (Industrial Strength), Onionz (Layaway), Rio (Glookos), Micro (Limelight), Osheen (Nova), Overload (Deep-Blue). Jason Bilsky (FUZZBOX@World.std.com) *ne-raves badge Orb shirt Mr Sparkle (KZIMMERMAN@eagle.wesleyan.edu) Dave McMahon (DJM@Bedford.progress.com) Donutz (DONATO@applix.com) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, March 20th GLOBAL GROOVES NYC INFO# (212) 696 8938 DJs| Wink, James Christian, Frankie Bones, Guy DMC, Super DJ Dmitry, Dante, Denard, DJ Reese, Debo, Troposphere, Jacquelyn Christie, Kleen. *-(this was supposed to happen last weekend but was postponed due to the storm we had. Word has it that it will be this saturday ;) John Speakman (SPEAKMAN@biost.mskcc.org) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- RIDES DESPERATELY NEEDED!!!!!!!!! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Neith Preston (NCP@csmvax.simmons.edu) + Polida FROM: Boston TO: ATLANTIS Taylor (TOD3253@ACFcluster.nyu.edu) FROM: NYC TO: ATLANTIS Inhuman (INHUMAN@mindvox.phantom.com) FROM: any Metro stop TO: ULTRAWORLD V Susie K (SK2479A@American.edu) + Doug Zimmerman (DZ5401A@American.edu) FROM: D.C. TO: ULTRAWORLD V (call (202) 885 709 if possible, also have room for people to stay) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Thats it people......have fun and stay out of trouble ;) --Fluid [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1993 22:44:51 -0500 (EST) From: Alan Michael Parry Subject: Ultraworld V Does anyone out there know exactly where this will be held? thanks... --Fluid ;) [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 19 Mar 1993 04:34:24 -0400 (EDT) From: an excursion through technospace Subject: havoc music newsletter, anyone? i'm putting together an internet newsletter for havoc music (my label).. if anyone is interested in receiving it, drop me your email address.. it will be short.. and irregular.. talking about new releases, updates, etc. also, if anyone has any ideas for other groups (mailing lists) for me to ask, please let me know.. peace (eox) >>taylor.a.b.c.1.2.3 [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 19 Mar 1993 04:26:54 -0400 (EDT) From: an excursion through technospace Subject: mac animation does anyone out there know of a good 2-D animation program for the mac? color.. something i could input pict or tif files or something...with some tools of its own? am i making any sense? 2-D color animation ??? thanks >>taylor.808.kick.wave.ha.ha.funny.pete [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Fri, 19 Mar 93 05:04:08 -0500 From: jna@silver.lcs.mit.edu (488-514nM attack) Subject: Re: 808/MBM 808 State was what got me into techno about two years ago when they played Boston at the channel... I even sold them a laser while they were here.. Lots has changed since then , but I bet they're still good.. Pete: Do you know the label/agent for 808 state? Maybe they remember me from their last boston trip and might like an argon at their next show.. :) -john [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1993 10:22:10 +0100 From: vetjh@vinga.hum.gu.se unsubscribe john hultberg [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Subject: Recording From: humphrey@unity.ncsu.edu Date: Fri, 19 Mar 93 08:26:36 EST I have a question. When you want to record someone's set, why not hook up a Hi-Fi vcr? they can record for like 8 hours and they are better quality than a compact cassette...it makes it a lot easier than having to switch tapes all the time. Or does that not make sense? |\ . ______ * __John Rainbow Humphrey__ | \ _ | | + john_humphrey@ncsu.edu + <--personal mail here | \ _ | | - + humphrey@unity.ncsu.edu + <--or here | \ | | - + jrhumphr@eos.ncsu.edu + |e___\ |______|/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: kzimmerman@eagle.wesleyan.edu Date: Fri, 19 Mar 93 10:16:21 EST Subject: Re: 808/MBM I saw 808 at the Limelight Oct. 91 (Moby played too, thought his equipment was fucked so I remember hearing "Go" without any samples, as well as "Voodoo Child") Program 2 was suppossed to play but didn't. I wonder what they sounded like backthen? 808clones? Chris Collins dj's too. Of course I had to leave about four songs into 808's set, but they were pretty cool. Saw what mattered ("Pacific") my first and all-time ever favorite techno (new age house :) tune. They should be good. Actually this is sort of a dream tour for me, cuz I got into the two groups about the same time and I've always sort of associated them together. Strike a pose. Work it girl. Poseur SparklE. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1993 10:35:02 -0500 (EST) From: mike perkowitz Subject: pictures - at atlantis! okay, according to the picture=printer-guy, all 146 prints will be ready by saturday morning. so, if you asked for prints, look for me at atlantis with a little envelope with your name on it. :) i think, for people who won't be at atlantis, i'll just mail them to you next week, since, if i don't see you this weekend, i probably won't see you for a long time. (well, maybe at dune...) mike [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Fri, 19 Mar 93 07:51:10 -0800 From: kzimmerman@eagle.wesleyan.edu Subject: atlantis, dune guess what.... Atlantis is goin to be in the original health club spot after all. so here are the di-rec-shunz: from mass, Prov and points north: I-95 south--15 min. south of Prov. take exit 13 (tf green airport)--thhen take 2nd exit onto rt. 1/post rd. south health club is first buliding on right. from conn, ny and south: 95 north--take exit 13 (tf green airport)--then take 2nd exit onto rt.1/post road south--health club is first bldg. on right ----------- here's the dune flyer for that matter: DUNE March 27, 1993 10.00 PM until Sunrise PHAT after party until 2.00 PM! Transport your highest self to an alternate reality of Joy & Celebration! Experience the Ectacy of Techno-Mesmerism with 15,000 watts of Primal Beating Bass. Intelligent Lighting, Psycho-Tropic Visuals, Chill Spaces. VIBRATORY NAVIGTORS DUTCH San Francisco OnionZ New York MgEE London OSHEEN Providence Dale Charles San Diego RIO New York AND THE POSSE DOIN' THE DO... IN TRIBAL SONIC RESONACE WE GROW AND UNITE IN LOVE! Performin Live at After Party: GRACE $3 discount if you bring a can of food for the homeless Rhode Island/Mass. Information & Inquiries 401-454-6060 Location -> 3/22 Connecticut Bus Info 203-627-5686 Philadelphia Bus Info 215-292-4666 The Horizon Group No Alcohol-R.O.A.R. (what the hell does that _mean_?)-No Misconduct-Strict Door Procedures-Clean Toilets-Coat Check-First Aid-Peachy Puffs-Candy Surprises RESPECTS Pranam MJ, Blue Crew, Home Pnateteers, Never-NeverLanders, United Techno Family Horizon Group, KC & the Sunrise Gan, Erick& Melissa, Nikki, Dave Vlad, Pow & Matt, Oracle Manny, Jeff, Renee, GGeorge, Heather, Sava, Karina, Dutch's Roommates (if they cleaned their dishes) and everyone with love in their heart and a smile on their silly face! poseur. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Fri, 19 Mar 93 08:12:37 PST From: kzimmerman@eagle.wesleyan.edu quit quit [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 19-MAR-1993 11:14:40.16 From: mr sparklE Subject: Fields of Joy Received: from geech.gnu.ai.mit.edu by EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU (PMDF #12650) id <01GVZNXZH2EO8WWGPQ@EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU>; Fri, 19 Mar 1993 11:12 EST Received: from medisg.Stanford.EDU by geech.gnu.ai.mit.edu (5.65/4.0) with SMTP id ; Fri, 19 Mar 93 11:12:36 -0500 Date: Fri, 19 Mar 93 11:12:36 -0500 From: MAILER-DAEMON@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Mail Delivery Subsystem) Subject: Returned mail: Host unknown To: kzimmerman@EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU Message-id: <9303191612.AA26700@geech.gnu.ai.mit.edu> ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 550 ... Host unknown ----- Unsent message follows ----- Received: from medisg.Stanford.EDU by geech.gnu.ai.mit.edu (5.65/4.0) with SMTP id ; Fri, 19 Mar 93 11:12:36 -0500 Received: from (eagle.wesleyan.edu) by medisg.Stanford.EDU (4.1/1.34) id AA11292; Fri, 19 Mar 93 08:08:40 PST Date: Fri, 19 Mar 93 08:08:23 PST From: kzimmerman@eagle.wesleyan.edu Message-Id: <9303191608.AA11292@medisg.Stanford.EDU> Subject: Fields of Joy Organization: disco award Apparently-To: FIELDS OF JOY April 24th, 1993 Unitingg the East and West coast with first ever SIMULTANEOUS Event INFORMATION COMIN SOON Presented by Never Neverland Productions Boston (617) 629-0777 San Francisco (415) 979-LUV-0 >>sparkle.dismember.the.body m u t i l a t e d e s t r o y n i h i l i s m [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: kzimmerman@eagle.wesleyan.edu Date: Fri, 19 Mar 93 11:16:16 EST Subject: Reverse REVERSE April 3, 1993 11PM- till ??!@#** (flyer is reversed. view through mirror) re'verse \ri-'vers\ adj 1: opposite to a previous or normal condition 2: a change in one's state of mind from average to euphoric... DANTE evolution, n.y. DALE CHARLES evar, san diego k.c. and the sunrise gang OVERLOAD MAYHEM rise, boston KAMATE "the underground" JASON MOUSE boston underground A PLACE CALLED BLISS from toronto smartbar by PUNCH presale tickets... $11--day of...$13 AVAILABLE AT: the other side cafe'--boston...617-536-9477 boston beat--boston...617-561-4790 zootz--portland...207-773-8187 pure bob--burlington...802-658-2652 info. and busing hotline...617-629-0777 or 802-656-6782 $1 of each ticket will go towards the United Way SPECIAL THANK TO::: chemistry, mike r., the commune, never neverland, rachel-bo-bachel, k.c. and the sunrise gang, rise, united techno, fred strong, debo, evolution, george from brooklyn, and etc. SOMEWHERE in the mountains. presented by... TEMPEST PRODUCTIONS [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 19 Mar 1993 11:23:01 -0500 (EST) From: AI3264%ALBNYVMS.bitnet@UACSC2.ALBANY.EDU Subject: ALBANY RAVE... ........Along with Darshan and Manish, I'll be there too- look for a shaved head with one strand in front, some bright clothes, and a dancing nut... most likely that will be me....I forgot to post on the HOM- if anyone is going and needs a place to stay, hang out, see a friendly face, ect...... contact me. -ToNy- [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Fri, 19 Mar 93 11:29:26 EST From: Dave Hardy Subject: Re: Fields of Joy On 19-MAR-1993 11:14:40.16 you said: >FIELDS OF JOY >April 24th, 1993 > ... >Presented by Never Neverland Productions > >Boston (617) 629-0777 Just called this number. DJ's for the night will be Larry Hartkiss (sp?) Debo Onionz Tintin (from England) Jason Jinx (from NY) Hope I got this right. The recording went pretty fast. -- >>> Dave BITNET: DAVEH@MITVMC Internet: DAVEH@MITVMC.MIT.EDU [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1993 13:06:57 -0500 From: Joe Turner Subject: Re: Fields of Joy >Larry Hartkiss That MUST be HARDkiss, of the San Francisco Hardkiss Bros., who are pretty much severely big musical gods out there and have their own SF-only label and are just supposed to be amazingly chill. Sounds good. /joe [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: dboy@acs.bu.edu (Darren Ewaniuk) Subject: tables Date: Fri, 19 Mar 93 13:46:06 EST well here is the story, i have (had) this friend (who is a dj in philly and he was getting me 10 turntables (1200's) at in incredible price break, and last night the guy descides to pull out because someone else is giving him more (alot more) money for them. now i need another way to get some. please help. peace and love that is all. "find that black suit humbleness" -darren [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Fri, 19 Mar 93 14:11:31 EST From: susie Subject: larry??? the only hardkiss's i know are robbie (really nice met him at a rave in golden gate park and heard him spin at connection II) and scott...hey maybe there is a larry that their mother never told us about *joke*...partyon...susie (: [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Fri, 19 Mar 93 14:39:15 -0500 From: epeirce@acs.bu.edu (Erin Peirce) Subject: Re: Fields of Joy >>Larry Hardkiss Joe Turner writes: >that MUST be HARDkiss of the San Francisco Hardkiss Bros., who are pretty >much severely musical gods out there and have their own SF-only label >and are just supposed to be amazingly chill. ...only neither of them is named Larry...they are Scott and Robbie... both really cool athough near famous so who know what demons have sprouted... ...it's rad that the scene here has become so eclectic and i love groovin' to the home tunes on the east coast. ...see you all there! -erin epeirce@acs.bu.edu [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1993 14:42:04 -0500 From: Dan English Subject: Re: larry??? ROBBIE hardkiss will be spinning at fields of joy. lisa told me so a while ago that they were tryng to get him. some say he is better than scott hardkiss, who has the bigger name. we shall see, we shall see. -camper. * stay groovy. camper english it ain't easy, being cheesey @buphy.bu.edu [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1993 14:42:04 -0500 From: Dan English Subject: Re: larry??? ROBBIE hardkiss will be spinning at fields of joy. lisa told me so a while ago that they were tryng to get him. some say he is better than scott hardkiss, who has the bigger name. we shall see, we shall see. -camper. * stay groovy. camper english it ain't easy, being cheesey @buphy.bu.edu [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1993 14:45:09 -0500 From: Joe Turner Subject: Re: Fields of Joy Heh, ok, I stand corrected. I knew of Robbie and Scott, but thought there was another one. -shrug- Paint me embarrased! /joe [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1993 14:53:02 -0500 From: Dan English Subject: onionz onionz onionz!!!!! i spoke with onionz last night at venus here in boston. here is what he had to say: 1. he will be spinning at the loft in boston today, friday the 19th. 2.he will be spinning at atlantis, despite my rantering before that he wouldnt show up. he said that we should give manny a chance and that more people like me who care about people should show up to make sure nothing bad happens. which gives me the dilemma-my own moral code versus my love for onionz- the only man i'll ever marry. 3.next weekend he will be spinning all three raves he is scheduled for. he is spinning 1130-2ish at dune then at the middle one then at 730 or so at DNA 4.i asked him about back to the future. he said that they put his name o the flyer without asking him first. he will not be here to spin for it and had a conversation with the promoter. onionz said that he should be paid for being on the flyer. the promo said that then onionz was a hypocrite for talking about rave unity etc., if he wanted to get paid for not spinning. onionz said that he is not, cause he isnt going to beat him up or anything for not paying hime, but if he wants to do the right thing, he will pay onionz. 5. he will be going out west again in the beginning of april. then he is going to holland. then he comes back and goes to san fran again. he will be helping in a benefit rave for the guy who has helped put on the full moon raves who was paralyzed from the neck dpwn in a car accident. i think that that is a beautiful idea. ravers helping ravers. thats all the onionz news for today. stay tuned. -camper. * stay groovy. camper english it ain't easy, being cheesey @buphy.bu.edu [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1993 14:53:02 -0500 From: Dan English Subject: onionz onionz onionz!!!!! i spoke with onionz last night at venus here in boston. here is what he had to say: 1. he will be spinning at the loft in boston today, friday the 19th. 2.he will be spinning at atlantis, despite my rantering before that he wouldnt show up. he said that we should give manny a chance and that more people like me who care about people should show up to make sure nothing bad happens. which gives me the dilemma-my own moral code versus my love for onionz- the only man i'll ever marry. 3.next weekend he will be spinning all three raves he is scheduled for. he is spinning 1130-2ish at dune then at the middle one then at 730 or so at DNA 4.i asked him about back to the future. he said that they put his name o the flyer without asking him first. he will not be here to spin for it and had a conversation with the promoter. onionz said that he should be paid for being on the flyer. the promo said that then onionz was a hypocrite for talking about rave unity etc., if he wanted to get paid for not spinning. onionz said that he is not, cause he isnt going to beat him up or anything for not paying hime, but if he wants to do the right thing, he will pay onionz. 5. he will be going out west again in the beginning of april. then he is going to holland. then he comes back and goes to san fran again. he will be helping in a benefit rave for the guy who has helped put on the full moon raves who was paralyzed from the neck dpwn in a car accident. i think that that is a beautiful idea. ravers helping ravers. thats all the onionz news for today. stay tuned. -camper. * stay groovy. camper english it ain't easy, being cheesey @buphy.bu.edu [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1993 14:58:09 -0500 From: Dan English Subject: how hard can i groove a thursday night in boston. the cold winter winds blew in my face. it wouldnt be long, till i'd groove all over the place. the plce-venus de milo the music tim ryan:builds up the energy with "older' techno tunes. (from december) debo:plays some house funk to get your feet going, then moves to the house to get camper's juices flowing. onionz: well, what can i say. onionz is my god and he made my day he played a mixture of music styles. you could barely see through the room of smiles. this past thursday was a night to not have missed let me say that if i had, i'd be pissed. -camper. * stay groovy. camper english it ain't easy, being cheesey @buphy.bu.edu [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1993 15:00:41 -0500 From: Dan English Subject: platform sneakers this is kind of like an advertisement, but its not. most people go all the way to new york to get there shoes platformed, but a friend of mine can do it. she lives in providence. i was glad to find somewhere close to get them done. its a service, not an ad. please dont flame me. i'm having ego problems. if you are interested write me. -camper. * stay groovy. camper english it ain't easy, being cheesey @buphy.bu.edu [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Fri, 19 Mar 93 12:12:55 -0800 From: ccat@netcom.com (Chris) Subject: Another HardKiss There is another Hardkiss, Gavin... and they're an extended family.. i don't think they're related,except in spirit..(to us all) -Chris. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Fri, 19 Mar 93 12:09:15 PST From: mw@sybase.com (Michael Wertheim) Subject: Re: Fields of Joy > Just called this number. DJ's for the night will be > Larry Hartkiss (sp?) Probably Robbie Hardkiss, a DJ from San Francisco. He's Jeno-ish. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Fri, 19 Mar 93 12:11:43 PST From: mw@sybase.com (Michael Wertheim) Subject: Re: Fields of Joy > FIELDS OF JOY > April 24th, 1993 > > Uniting the East and West coast with first ever SIMULTANEOUS Event > > Boston (617) 629-0777 > San Francisco (415) 979-LUV-0 Right -- now I remember. They will be having a rave in Boston and a rave in SF, and the two raves will be connected by a video-conference link. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Fri, 19 Mar 93 14:03:47 PST From: mw@sybase.com (Michael Wertheim) Subject: Re: Fields of Joy > Heh, ok, I stand corrected. I knew of Robbie and Scott, but thought > there was another one. -shrug- Paint me embarrased! There are four -- Robbie: he will be DJ-ing at Fields of Joy in Boston. Scott: he DJ'd at Connection II and will be DJ-ing at Fields of Joy in SF. Gavin: he doesn't DJ, but he did a remix on the latest Ultraviolet Catastrophe single, which is on the Hardkiss's record label, Hardkiss Music. Jon Williams: he was supposed to DJ at Connection II but didn't because he didn't know where it moved to after it got busted. He will be DJ-ing at Fields of Joy in SF, and he did remixes on the new UVC 12". [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 19 Mar 93 17:20:00 EST From: "John Speakman" Subject: guest lists Hiya! I have a question: Call me naive or slow or something but I'm not sure I understand the idea of guest lists here. In Britain to get put on the guest list for a rave or a gig or anything you have to know someone who's working there. The raveware hotline (Primal) in NYC has this message about what's on and then says "If you want to get put on the guest list leave your name and phone number at the tone". So I did, and they just called me back to say we're on the guest list. Now this bloke who'e never met me before has taken the time to take down my name and number, and then phoned me up at his own expense to say we're on the list. He's just lost $20 plus the cost of a phone call plus the time it's taken to do this, cos if they hadn't put that bit about guest lists on we would have turned up and paid up anyway. I conclude either: (a) being on the guest list means you still have to pay (which is okay) or (b) they are nice non-capitalistic people, which is nice, but what if everyone phoned up and got on the guest list? Puzzled. John ps: Will or anyone else going, it's 212 696 8938... [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 19 Mar 1993 20:04:32 -0400 (EDT) From: DJESRANI%COLGATEU.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu Subject: N e b u l a I I I (addendum..) Hey, I just got the confirmed DJ lineup for N3 on Saturday 27th March. Lenny D (Industrial Strength) Dmitry (Deeee-Lite) Mr. Kleen (NASA/Sputnik) On-E (NASA) Scott Richmond (WVKR, Nebula) Debo (Boston) Dave Trance (Caffeine, LI) Overload (BLUE, Maine) Troposphere (Vinyl Mania, NASA) Desi (Rockland) Stephan (Rockland) Spy (Disintegrator) Little Sprout (Newburgh) Sounds good to me! I was told by someone who's working there that night that there are two floors - upstairs they will be playing progressive house and trance, and downstairs they'll be playing hardcore and breakbeat. Call the Poughkeepsie rave line for more info (+ directions): 914.255.8517. I would love to see all you NE-Ravers grooving here in my town.. Darshan djesrani@center.colgate. .end [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1993 02:31:58 -0500 From: ncp@csmvax.simmons.edu (Neith Preston) Subject: Re: Ride to Atlantis thank you all so much...so as to get this to all who replied...polida and I have a ride....we are going with kreig Zimmerman! Thank you again for all the help I know I can count on you and if i can ever help you guys let me know! Love and Frogs!!! Neith [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Fri, 19 Mar 93 22:35:37 EST From: robcamp@tmn.com (Robert Campanell) Subject: SUBJECT: onionz onionz onionz!!!!! Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1993 14:53:02 -0500 From: Dan English i spoke with onionz last night at venus here in boston. here is what he had to say: 1. he will be spinning at the loft in boston today, friday the 19th. 2.he will be spinning at atlantis, despite my rantering before that he wouldnt show up. he said that we should give manny a chance and that more people like me who care about people should show up to make sure nothing bad happens. which gives me the dilemma-my own moral code versus my love for onionz- the only man i'll ever marry. 3.next weekend he will be spinning all three raves he is scheduled for. he is spinning 1130-2ish at dune then at the middle one then at 730 or so at DNA 4.i asked him about back to the future. he said that they put his name o the flyer without asking him first. he will not be here to spin for it and had a conversation with the promoter. onionz said that he should be paid for being on the flyer. the promo said that then onionz was a hypocrite for talking about rave unity etc., if he wanted to get paid for not spinning. onionz said that he is not, cause he isnt going to beat him up or anything for not paying hime, but if he wants to do the right thing, he will pay onionz. 5. he will be going out west again in the beginning of april. then he is going to holland. then he comes back and goes to san fran again. he will be helping in a benefit rave for the guy who has helped put on the full moon raves who was paralyzed from the neck dpwn in a car accident. i think that that is a beautiful idea. ravers helping ravers. thats all the onionz news for today. stay tuned. -camper. * stay groovy. camper english it ain't easy, being cheesey @buphy.bu.edu Micheal Meacham (Techno016@aol.com) is the promoter for Back to Future. I was going to this event, but if Onionz is not spinning, I don't think I want to go. Based on Onionz statements, it looks like Micheal Meacham is trying to to produce this big mega rave without paying the talent. Art of the techno band MERGE told me last week that Micheal Meacham stiffed them when the performed at Future last summer, Yet he paid Joey Beltram $600 for doing nothing. (Beltram was scheduled to spin, but he went out put on 1 record and walked off complaining). - Rob [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1993 21:41:46 -0500 From: ncp@csmvax.simmons.edu (Neith Preston) Subject: UFOrb screensaver.... I heard that there is this screensaver floating around out there amongst the net members...Does anyone have it for a mac that i could get a copy of it? I can offer and oscar the grouch garbage accesory.... :) thanks.... Love and Frogs!!! Neith PS...apple pie, you might like the oscar.... :) [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Subject: Sunshine V-RAVE connection! From: inhuman@mindvox.phantom.com (Inhuman) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 93 23:30:56 EST Everyone be sure to be on V-RAVE the night of Friday the 26th after midnight or so, EST. We will have a terminal hooked up to v-rave at Sunshine, a little microrave Susie and Doug from AU in Washington DC are putting on. It should be really cool. For those that don't know about v-rave, just telnet sfraves.stanford.edu 7282 Do it now, because your account will have to be validated. It's just an irc-style chatting system. Let's see how many cool vibes we can create at Sunshine! Michael | "I've begun to wonder if we wouldn't (inhuman@mindvox.phantom.com) | also regard spelunkers as desperate | criminals if AT&T owned all the ...trance form...trance send... | caves." --John Perry Barlow [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: lees11@rpi.edu Date: Sun, 21 Mar 93 03:54:55 EST Subject: subscribe me subscribe me [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1993 12:09:23 -0500 From: ncp@csmvax.simmons.edu (Neith Preston) Subject: Atlantis We (Mr. SparklE, Polida, and I) missed Overload's djing... :( But as soon as we found the room that the music was blaring in, we were all totally into it... :) Becca and I seemed to think that that was the room that the dj's were in, but where we thought they were, turned out to only be a vendor's booth. It turned -ed out that there were about three rooms with music...but the dj's were upstairs in a hallway! Very strange experience! It was definitely like travel- ing thru caverns...I wish someone had been creative enough to draw out a map of what was there because it seemed like there would have been far fewer hallway traffic jams if we all knew where things were! But, chatting with friends and getting my badge were definitely great experiences...Unfortunately we got caught chatting in a circle upstairs and as we all got up to go downstairs, the lights came on!! At 5 am!!! But I don't mind! Getting to see and talk to you all (Laura, John Adams, Becca, Kris, Oz, Apple Pie, Deitrich, Overload, and others that weren't in that circle..Polida, Kreig, Kurt, Donato, etc etc...) was well worth it all! The map to the afterhours was a bit hectic but thank god everybody made it! BTW How did you all get there? We wound up asking a cop for directions (Oz, Bonnie, Apple Pie and I), he had us follow him to Atwells Ave...First by doing a U-turn, then by taking us down a one-way road the WRONG way! He put on his lights so we could follow him down it! It took a while to hit us how bizzare this was! So far it seems that this month's cops have been really cool about things like speeding etc...on the way to raves...who knows... :) One Problem, they should outlaw really comfy couches at after hours parties... that is all i can say about it...oh except for free pizza covered the door price! :) Love and Frogs!!! Neith [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Subject: Re: tables From: John Rainbow Humphrey Date: Sun, 21 Mar 93 12:34:42 EST ---------- > well here is the story, > > i have (had) this friend (who is a dj in philly > and he was getting me 10 turntables (1200's) > at in incredible price break, and last night > the guy descides to pull out because > someone else is giving him more (alot more) > money for them. > > now i need another way to get some. > > please help. > > peace and love > that is all. > > > "find that black suit humbleness" > > -darren If you find any, I'd like to know too. I am looking for some also... |\ . ______ * __John Rainbow Humphrey__ | \ _ | | + john_humphrey@ncsu.edu + <--personal mail here | \ _ | | - + humphrey@unity.ncsu.edu + <--or here | \ | | - + jrhumphr@eos.ncsu.edu + |e___\ |______|/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Sun, 21 Mar 93 12:27:02 EST From: "Douglas B. Zimmerman" Subject: Ultraworld 5:Cosmic Spring + Hey, been a few hours since gotten back from Ultraworld 5: Cosmic Spring. Was looking very forward to this because (1) It was an Ultraworld event and they are always great, (2) Nauromancer, fellow student and Hardcore dj was spinning. Even spending the night before at Carefree ( nice place) till 7 and work to be done, but went off very happy :) Scott Borst drove raving buddy Susie K. and i up to Ultraworld (thanks a mil Scott!) and the rid up was fun, listining to 99.1 WHFS and bubblegum techno. James Brown is Dead came on the air and i was feeling quesay but Susie and Scott still like the song, so... Ultraworld's location was nice. One major dance room, a chill-out room off to the side, along with a moonbounce in another room. Went on the moonbounce first which was fun, but soon made it back to the main dance floor and Alvaro from madird was on the tables spinning some happy-go- lucky mix with b'beats, hardcore +. It was very nice. We were up by the tables There also were those great dancers which are at every rave in this area and are much fun to check out their moves, but i was grooving along stedily too. During this time they turned on the green laser they had there. It was most excellent! I had not been to a rave since Masquerave that had a big laser and it was beautiful. It would go all over the place. Making these beautiful designs and looks, and when it would hit the disco-ball the light would splinter into a thousand different directions shooting lasers out everywhere. It was great. Also had a pair of blue sunglasses on which was a nice personal effect. After Alvaro, was Neuromancer, who played the hardcore straight out HARD! yum, yumm, yummm... the dancefloor flooded packed up and I was in deep fun time now, shake that body, yes yes yes yes yes. Fludi showed up along with the rest of the U.Del crew and things were neat-o This was perhaps my best dancing rave since Ultraworld 2. I was totally in a groove, and basically danced for a long, long time. When i stopped finally to go on the gyrobix outside it was getting light, and my watch read six am! Wow, i hardly noticed the time. By the time after the gyrobix ride went back to dancing and debo was spinning some house,trancy material which was nice when the phat hip hop beats came in at times and got the feet grooving. The floor at Ultraworld was fun, when the hardcore set started the floor got very slick and everyone was able to do all these cool foot movements sliding all over the place. It was raning on and off from the cealing. It was fun the floor, except when i tried some of mine all- out over the place dancing, and slip and lost balance. I only fell twice, but one time it was really cool: my feet slipped out in front of me and i put my hand down in back of me to stop the fall, and popped back up. It was a double-phat dance move! By seven-ish or so the floor was fairly open, and it was cool. This guy came up to me once and we did this cool dance together, and he passed around later and we did it again, ending it with a handshake. There were these two other guys that we excellent dancers, and they were doing this dance together as if one was pushing the other one back, and then they would switch roles and the other one would dance back.. I love ravers! Everyone way cool and everyone into the music and the vibe :) After that went to the chill-out room and the dj played this song with these drum claps that i had been forever trying to find out the name of; i think it was 20HZ or something of the sorts. Met up with Susie and she showed me where the mind-machines were and tried them out. It was very relaxing and after got off couldnt stop smiling, Susie was smiling and laughing also, but it was because a guy had taken off all of his clothes, and just started to walk around naked. Hey raves are all about liberating the soul, right? Ultraworld 5 was a great time. The left around 8:30 or so. Before this weekend i was feeling a little raved-out, but not any more. doug ))))) a b00mingg baSS for a l0ving race ((((( dz5401a@american.edu [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Sun, 21 Mar 93 10:34:36 -0800 From: diva@uclink.berkeley.edu (Leah Jane Reich) Subject: this is leah sorry to have to post this... but soda is down and if anyone wants to send mail to me, send it to this account: diva@uclink.berkeley.edu thanks! =) have a good one... always, leah [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1993 14:05:23 -0500 (EST) From: Alan Michael Parry Subject: Cosmic!! Originally we scrapped our plans to go to this, but at 12:30AM we (myself and Adam - a fellow udel raver) found ourselves bored and decided to head on down. The space was the same as the last Ultraworld but things had been moved around to create a different look. As soon as I got there I noticed something I'd never seen in Baltimore before - LASERS! there was a green computer controlled laser set-up with mirrors, disco ball etc. to create some cool effects. We quickly met up with Doug, Susie etc and had a good time just dancing around to Neuromancers set. Nothing had been that spectacular so far and I was beginning to feel kind of tired until about 6:00am when Debo and Josh Wink finally arrived. Debo quickly jumped into an incredible set of Housey trance stuff which really got me going again. By this time the crowd was already pretty thin and things were really picking up. After a quick synchro-energize in the other room, I made my way back to catch the end of Debo's set and the Josh Wink took over with some really groovy stuff. I heard many good tunes during the night, one special favorite being Sister Sledges "we are family" in the chillout room along with some breakdance stuff. Some other higlights were the naked guy and the ever-so-kind Ultraworld girl we met. We wanted to go outside but one of the staff there wouldn't let us, so when he'd gone, she was kind enough to come find us and escort us to our car so we could stock up on water and snacks etc. Thats about all for now.....on that infamous scale....+2 (Adam says it was only a +1 :P) Hope to see you all at SUNSHINE on Friday!!! =) Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz... --Fluid [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1993 14:22:30 -0500 (EST) From: Alan Michael Parry Subject: SCAM ALERT! I'm not 100% positive of the reliability of this information so make of it what you will. We gave M.A.R.C., the Delaware rave promoter, a ride home and got talking about Back to The Future. We noticed that Onionz had been crossed off many of the BTTF flyers as he wont be playing as Camper said. However, Marc told us that neither the Aphex Twin or NRG will be performing, nor were they ever going to. He states that Richard James had been on bad terms with Michael Meachem and that there was no way he would be performing. Other BTTF info...each DJ will only get 45 mins at the turntables. Is Michael Meacham playing with us?? I'm really not sure if I want to go to this if all the above is true. Maybe we can ask the Aphex Twin himself at triptronic on saturday. Just thought I'd let you all know... --Fluid [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1993 17:51:01 -0500 (EST) From: mike perkowitz Subject: atlantis/home planet this should really be a review of two raves - atlantis and the home planet after hours. atlantis was pretty good. the space was kinda fun. it was like a huge ravermaze. all these little rooms connected by little doors and a hallway that was just pulsing with bass (they couldn't fit the bass bins through the doors into the actual dance rooms - basketball courts - so they were all in the hall - all you could hear/feel in that hall way was BBBBBAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS X-) <- cross-eyed with delight the "dark" room was also pretty cool - nothing but lasers, glowsticks, and the occasional flash from the other room. and a mirror on one entire wall (did you guys who were hangin' out in the other room ever venture in there? i know that's where the hardcore posse was... :) but i think, finally, the space was more of a gimmick which got old than a real plus. i got tired of navigating those halls and those doorways. i also missed having the djs visible from the dance floor. and - i've been spoiled by spaces like wonderland, blue, and massive dose - i really didn't like how hot and crowded it was down there. when hardcore comes on, i want SPACE. ;) (those who have seen me when hardcore appears know why :) the fact that the music did not spread throughout the entire place was sort of a minus as well - it was too easy to get away from. but it was also nice, because it made it easier for us to sit around and chat, which i really enjoy(ed). i know a lot of people were pissed about it ending at 5:00, but i think i can understand it. as usual, we trashed the place, and john says they have to open at 8:00 am. it is a health club after all :( besides, i was happy to leave the place and go to home planet. home planet was blissful. i'm getting to feel i'd rather go to an intimate, family-like little thing like home planet than a megarave any day. the music there was exactly what i was in the mood for... and i finally got to put on my white gloves and do cool hand-things under a blacklight :) i was pretty tired by that time, so i mostly sat and watched and listened. ...and finished my roll of film. yes, once again i took pics (24 this time), though neither location was really conducive to good picture-taking.. it was nice to have seen a lot of familiar faces (you know the usual crew :), to meet some new people (hi, matt), and to see those i haven't seen in a while... has anyone ever been to home planet's regular saturday-night thingies? mike [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: kzimmerman@eagle.wesleyan.edu Date: Sun, 21 Mar 93 18:45:23 EST Subject: whhheeeeee! Wow, I've nevere felt so blissful and full of peace after a rave. That's why I'm gonna format like Taylor does. Atlantis... we got there about 1AM, found the space went in. The place was okay, but it was such a weird mix of people. All these friends of mine were there, finally, from all the places I have friends, and all these people from my old college Wesleyan were there too. It was strange to see this big conglomerate but I didn't mind. Lenny Dee, Micro (I missed Overload >:(...) were pretty good. I was glad to groove to hardcore finally with some fellow hahdkoahedz. The place was full of a lot of strange types... neo-ravers, pseudo-ravers, alternatives, jocks (one who I think called me a faggot under his breath :\ ) and some were into it, but I fanlly understand what a real vibe is about. They were all expending this energy, and it was nice, but it was not united. This kept ggoingg, I went up and downstairs continuously playing with all my friends (I hate when I see so many people I know at a rave sometimes cause it makes me feel dispersed... but actually it was cool and I got ove rthat feel;ing) and Osheen came on with the hardhouse. mmmm yum... THEN the rave gets ended at 5 AM becuz people were throwingg toilet paper all over the bathrooms ?!?! :\ but I didn't mind. I took two Boston people I didn't know to Home Planet cuz Polida and Neith cut out on me ;) and got lost as usual for half an hour, finally spinningg all the way up Route 6 out of Providence just to get back in and do it like I remember how and when I got there I finally after a weird readjustement started ggoingg WOWOW. the ggroove, thevibe there was fantastic. I was just after a while, I could feel this ggreat mass of energgy just spinning aorund, running through me, and all the people unitingg us my dancingg soon got just feelingg the energy. I have rarely ever felt that big mass, just waiting, wiating for the right time to be set free. my body was tired, but the energgy kept me going. I literally was no longer moving my body, the vibe was movingg it. i would stop and my leggs and arms would just keep going it was so beautiful... and it was all there and this is what ravingg is all abot. I didn;t end until 10 and the place was still ggoingg (did they ever stop?!) :) wow. I hope I said hi to everyone. thank you for being there and just keeping love in the air... I'm on Taylor gground now but it was so sweet and beautiful I just feel so good and in tune with my body and mind... I hope I will see you all soonn/... SparklE. sooperdooperhappytrippeenicedopewacksillypunt. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: Kristine Carrol Noel Subject: ATLANTIS!!WOW!!!! Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1993 20:33:17 -0500 (EST) A-MEEEN POSURE SPAH-KUL!!!!!!!!!!! :) :) ;) Wow.... the perma-grin is still going... The tingles.... OUr bodies are STILL tapping out a neverending house beat that just won't leave our heads. Kat in Da HAt and The MAd Becca HAtter here. *W*O*W* THere is so much to say, this was like the rave that is just impossible to document. Atlantis was unusual, but such an experience, just like Kreig said, there were so many people to talk to and meet and share vibes with. We decided to spread OUR vibe by meeting people, handing out smiley rings, plastic daisy neclaces, and smiley EXcellent stickers. :) ANd by the end of the night EVERYONE knew where to get their rave goodies!! We both have never reaped so much Joy at a rave before... the happiness people shared with us was like a drug. Just seeing people smile and laugh in amazement and agree to go spread the positivity was the most intense and best feeling in the world!! WOW!!! Then as the lights went on at 5am. we thought the wonderfully curious vibe would be lost, but not the case!!! Everyone banded together and shared rides and cover costs to transport the feeling to Home Planet! WOW again....the spinning was *Phatter* than words and the vibe running through everyone and around the room was so thick you could "cut it with a knife..." And we moved and grooved quite uncontrollably until the the music STOPPED. Everyone left in the room those few hours shared somthing between one another so strong and sooooo undescribable. The last hardcore set is now legendary...;) Even Donuts had to groove a little! We don't know what else to say. We are still taking it all in. Was it even real???!! Well.... we have a new rave for the #1 spot....but what to call it??!! Home: AtlantisPlanet. Thankyou forever to everyone of you who shared it. We love ya!!!! WOW. :) Luv, Kris the Kat and Becca wit da Phunky Hat :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: Lorenz 'Germaican' Redlefsen Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1993 21:54:56 -0500 Subject: Subscribe Subject says it all... [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 21 Mar 1993 23:24:18 -0400 (EDT) From: DJESRANI%COLGATEU.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu Subject: Re: N e b u l a I I I (addendum..) Doug (and all interested), Here's all of the information for Nebula III.. N E B U L A I I I Featuring DJs: Lenny Dee (Industrial Strength) Super DJ Dmitry (Deee-Lite) Mr. Kleen (NASA/Sputnik) On E (NASA) Scott Richmond (Sputnik/WVKR/WDST) Debo (Axis/Boston) Dave Trance (Caffeine/LI) Overload (Blue/Maine) Troposphere (NASA/Vinylmania) Desi (Rockland/Vitamin) Spy (Disintegrator/DC) Lil Sprout (Vitamin/Nebula II) * Plus Special Guest * $8 In Advance $10 Day Of 27 March 1993 Tickets: NYC - Vinylmania (212)463-7120 New Paltz (and Woodstock) - Jack's Rhythms (914)255-1082 Poughkeepsie - Berties (914)452-2380 (Fri. Nights Only) Specific Pacific (White Plains Galleria) (914)949-3103 Bus Info: NYC - Satellite Productions (212)465-3299 NJ - Scooter (201)927-2292 Albany - Dave Space (518)272-RAVE Boston - Debo (617)266-1987 Rockland/Westchester - (914)255-8517 Info Lines: NYC - Satellite Productions (212)465-3299 Albany - Dave Space (518)272-RAVE Poughkeepsie (General Info + Directions) - (914)255-8517 * Brought to you by Up North Productions in conjunction with Satellite Productions. ---------------------- There ya go! Darshan djesrani@center.colgate.edu [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Mon, 22 Mar 93 0:22:52 EST From: WILL-E Subject: Global Groove (NYC) & San Francisco scene I was initially disappointed. When we arrived, Frankie Bones played a lot of old house musick remakes and some breakbeat/hip hop beats. It was cute, especially for Frankie who I usually get easily annoyed with, but unimpressive. The upstairs just wasn't happening. The sound was murky, like the turntables were underwater; definitely some technical problem they couldn't fix (or couldn't be bothered to?). So for awhile I tranced out upstairs, hoping for more. Where was DJ Denard? My favourite hard acid trance & tribal DJ? The crowd seemed much more concerned with their appearances than being friendly but that's New York city for you. So the vibe wasn't that great either but I didn't expect it to be. The location was pretty decent: the site of an old club (TRAX) with a spacious dancefloor and water fountains. The toilets were a bit of a mess though... not enuf paper & dirty. There weren't any lazers but some fractals and other graphics being projected around... it was more like a club with rave-musick. It was around 4 I think and we decided to at least chill out downstairs where there was at least some musick playing. We decided to be patient and have faith. THEN, there was more progressive house being played. I noticed the mixing was very good and spot on. Suddenly it starts picking up dramatically. I looked across the dance floor with a big grin on my face at the dj, who had changed. He smiled back and gave me a thumbs up! We progressed to tribal and some fab trance to acid. It hits me then that the sound system there was absolutely brilliant. The dj shook me out of my groggy mood and THREW me on the dance floor. It got progressively faster for a WICKED hardcore set and he would balance it out with a little ambience. He would take you higher and higher and then drop you... let you float down and come right back up. I was so moved I ran to the DJ booth... it was James Christian. I wanted to complement him but I couldn't speak... I had to dance more & more... smart drinks helped. When I die, bury me with a 303... acid = bliss = 8) Although there could have been a LOT more acid by my standards. He casually brought it back down to trancey progressive and kept it there for awhile but I still couldn't stop dancing... I took to the stage as he played for hours... Eventually Jacquelyn Christie came on afterwards but my legs were in PAIN from dancing so much. She played a really groovey progressive set that I liked a lot. She's very pretty too, it's nice to see a woman in the booth for a change. After her short set, someone else brought back the hip-hop beats around 9am and that's when we left. Overall, I had a really good time anyway. Give me a dose of some GOOD hardcore and lots of interplanetary ACID trance and I'm content.. having said that, I'd like to be able to chat with people who are not circus side show freaks but down to earth and real. I'm so sick of the guest list shit and the attitude. Luckily a friend put me on the list 'cuz I heard most people had to wait about an hour to get in.... and why I might ask? what are we trying to prove here? John did you go? I forgot to wear my ne-raves badge... If it weren't so far and I could drive I'd probably come up to Boston & Providence a LOT more I gather... and as it gets warmer I think I will! Somebody give me a ride and get me out of here! My best friends in England called me up before I went and told me that a) things are pretty beat in England right now... so b) they're going to San Francisco and it looks like I might just join them! Raving took me to England for 11 months... I've been home for 3 months and I'll be taking off again mid-summer... now who says RAVE isn't a way of life? Would someone fill me in on the San Francisco scene? I've heard many groovey things but like djs, specific raves, clubs... maybe I should start looking on the sf-raves list? Thanx all! WILL-E [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1993 00:29:36 -0500 (EST) From: Jacobredfield Subject: houseparty@PITT On march 20th, from exactly 8:00 to 4:15 pittsburgh widened it's ever growing scene at this three story house in the Oakland area. For the pittsburgh scene it was quite an event. The party was generally mixed with your general college crowd with some dedicated people supporting the scene. Overall it was real hype considering all the energy that was spreading around in this house!!! Local D.J.'s were Deadly Budda, Finger, Soji - Fu,and many others who put on great sets. Especially the guy who mixed some progressive house with old school rap, with aliitle bit of 70"s disco. It was a refreshing change from all that hardcore - which seems like the only type of music that gets people moving around here. There was deffinite potential going on at this place but it could have been curved out a little bit around the rough edges. There were three floors of music. The basement had the d.j's with all the equipment, this is were the main dancing occurred. on the second floor there was a small room with two speakers connected to the basement amps. The third floor was even smaller but really cozy with with the room being a redish tinted color with white christmas lights. alot of people chilled out on the third floor. This was also were one could get hold of the smart drinks. On the first floor there were kegs :( which dissapeared quite rapidly. i'd say the majority of people there were to get drunk or something to that extent, and it seemed that the music was merely a side show. Anyhow there were many people grooving to the sounds in the basement which was quite hot, and my mind wondered of thought what atlantis would have been like If they had suana's going. it was just pure sweat in the basement because there was hardly any ventellation. Between the lights the smoke machine and the general coziness things were overall really good, because there was a feel ing of togetherness which is generally absent at N.Y. events. There were about three hundred people for this get together and most of them seemed unaware of what the sound is really about. By the end of the night there seemed to be like alot of people who were really digging this new founded sound and maybe with luck peopple will be attend upcoming events with glee and anticipation:). O.K. - the complaints. Trance and ambient has not really caught on yet in pittsburgh, and it seems that Turbo Zen is not too keen in having a main dancefloor with a side room of mellow - chill music. The scene is really only into hardcore with some breakbeat, and not that experimental with widening it's true potential. This house presented the perfect oppurtunity to have mutiple chill out rooms with cool ambient playing upstsairs, but no one took advantage of this factor. The kegs really got on my nerves because, beer should not be around this type of scene. the problem which was overal apparent, was that people needed to be drunk, in order to appreciate the music, and that just bothered me. It seemed like the promoters looked at this event to either make some cash or to open the scene a little bit and using kegs as shall we say - bait. Your guess is as good as mine. At 4:15 the police showed up and threw everyone out regarless if they had their coats or not. Rumor had it that the cops beat someone up. I was in a bathroom with joe trying to escape the blue funk, and the cops just really seemed rude. They could have quietly (respectfully) asked everyone to leave, instead of using force, and general stoopid patriarchial machoism in order to get their job done. one more thing - i heard that the passes were calling this event a rave. i wouldn't cal it that considering it took place in a house with all that beer going around. That's the problem with the pitt scene everyone calls an event a rave regardless where it takes place, or what it presents!!! Get the message straight!!!! in general i tend to compare the scene to other parts of north east, and realize that we have a long way to go, but with extra effort and proper organization and promotion pittsburgh has real potential in throwing out some crazy shit. C.M.U. is next on the list for reviews. i have a strong feeling that this event is going to be real positive, if your going to be around the area check it out, it's on raveomatic. Ihope to see everyone there, with some new faces! - jAke. <<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>> [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: Matthew S Macqueen Subject: Date: Mon, 22 Mar 93 0:44:25 EST Hi everyone Like my Mich. State Univ. pal Pandora, I have been reading the server for quite some time but have yet to say "what up," basically because none of the raves are within a days motor of here. We basically go to Detroit as often as we can, but events like the recent 40-car pile up on I-75 make Michigan transportation oh-so fun. :( I guess what I'd like to know is if anyone has an address to a server more in our rave-range (is there a "midwest raves" thing?) The Detroit scene is not bad (I guess, for argueably being the "birthplace" of techno and all), but I'm sure there's got to be a Metro/Detroit server, maybe at the Center for Creative Studies er something. Thanks for any info . . . . . C u e (Q) . . . . . macqueen@student.msu.edu "Every act of creation is simultaneously and act of destruction" - Picasso [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1993 21:54:23 -0800 From: Fred Heutte Subject: Re: Ultraworld 5:Cosmic Spring + WHFS is playing *TECHNO* now?!!!! Oh my stars'n'bars ;-) [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Subject: Re: houseparty@PITT From: inhuman@mindvox.phantom.com (Inhuman) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 93 00:52:03 EST Good luck on getting the Pittsburgh scene moving! I just got accepted to Carnegie-Mellon, so unless I get into U. o' Washington, I'll probably be joining you there this fall. I'll definitely put my energy into the scene once I get up there! Don't give up! Michael | "I've begun to wonder if we wouldn't (inhuman@mindvox.phantom.com) | also regard spelunkers as desperate | criminals if AT&T owned all the ...trance form...trance send... | caves." --John Perry Barlow [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1993 01:48:00 -0500 (EST) From: Jacobredfield Subject: Blueshield,comm hello out there! A friend was telling me about this new drug called blue shield. It's like acid, but supposedly it is stronger, better??? does anyone have any info about this?? <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>> Nike is going all out with breakbeat with a little bit of 303 in the background has anyone else heard this. in addition hersheys is also jumping the bandwagon. Any comments?? By the way if it's true about future - i don't even want to think about it. I mean first onionz was not confirmed and now aphex and nrg aren't playing. Is it worth forty dollars and seven hours. i don't know??? long live H.A.L. jAke [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: Jesse Brook McCune Subject: Re: houseparty@PITT Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1993 07:44:43 -0500 (EST) All my support goes out to you guys in Pittsburgh...I'll be there all summer... I'll put my best into it...good luck... :) Live on...love on...rave on... -Sunshine ============================================================================== | I am Sunshine... || I am the boy who made her heart || Jesse B McCune | | @ @ || feel happy, and shines like the sun! || WPI Box 609 | | \_/ ||======================================|| Worcester, MA | | on a cloudy day! || mccune@wpi.wpi.edu PH#:(508)791-3345 || 01609 | ============================================================================== I NEEEEEEEEEEED your lovin'... [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1993 10:22:19 -0500 (EST) From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: Blueshield,comm (187- Mobile Live Techno Vibes) On Mon, 22 Mar 1993, Jacobredfield wrote: > hello out there! > A friend was telling me about this new drug called blue shield. > It's like acid, but supposedly it is stronger, better??? does anyone > have any info about this?? Can't help you here. Sorry :) > <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>> > Nike is going all out with breakbeat with a little bit of 303 in the > background has anyone else heard this. I haven't yet....I HAVE heard some little snipits of somekinda technofied house in the new Reebok commercials. > in addition hersheys is also jumping the bandwagon. Any comments?? > > By the way if it's true about future - > > i don't even want to think about it. I mean first onionz was not > confirmed and now aphex and nrg aren't playing. Is it worth forty > dollars and seven hours. i don't know??? Hmmmmm....I'mmmmmm not goin' then. The 2 main reasons I was going was to hear Onionz and Aphex Twin as well as NRG. Buda at TZ says that Aphex Twin is supposed to be at another rave in Baltimore but I don't know what date. Anyway, hehehe well Onionz isn't going to be there but Stobe from the "U.S. Rave Team" in Philadelphia (or Euphoria) but never Pittsburgh, PA is going to be there so I think you should support this local boy even if he doesn't consider himself local. :) BTW: I am still writing my response to the house party message. Joe [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1993 10:42:43 -0500 (EST) From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: houseparty@PITT (187- Mobile Live Techno Vibes) On Mon, 22 Mar 1993, Jesse Brook McCune wrote: > All my support goes out to you guys in Pittsburgh...I'lbe there all summer... > I'll put my best into it...good luck... :) > > Live on...love on...rave on... > Yeah! Thanks goes out to you, and Inhuman. See that's what we need. Believe it or not I think summer will be seriously Phat! Some people I know are now checking into wharehouse spaces and will probably rent one out 2 times a month. Not to mention the talk about renting a generator and doing parties in alot of other places we LOOKED at last year but never gave it a second thought since we didn't have power there. Also there will be more phree events like the now infamous, parking lot mega-block party. (This time we will try to get a parking garage not far from the lot we did it in last year) Hopefully with everyone's effort we will all see the scene here grow in terms of size AND vibe. Are largest rave was about 1000 people but the vibe was incredible because everyone there was trying to make it so. There are many transplants here in Pittsburgh like Jacob (from NY) and that DJ we think is really groovin' who's name escapes me right now (from LA), many, many DC people, a couple of girls from the U.K. and a few people who are from Pittsburgh but live in Boston now and come down with people from Boston occassionally. Last year we had this guy from the U.K. who DJed under the name Controlled Weirdness, who really got the scene going here along with dieselBoy (ya'll know him), Soji-Fu (If you like dBoy you'll like this awesome breakbeat DJ with hip-hop style mixing from Nigeria), and of course Deadly Buda of Turbozen records. I think all in all you'll like it here once you get used to the one-way streets, dead-end streets, 90 degree hills (much like SF) and freaky weather. Joe [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Mon, 22 Mar 93 11:01:45 EST From: djm@bedford.progress.COM (Dave McMahon) Subject: Atlantis/Home Planet Despite the early ending at the Healthclub, Atlantis was the best rave I've been to since Life (Maybe even Storm). It had all of the elements I like about a good party. I found myself a corner near a bass bin in the small, dark murky room with extremely minimal lighting and loud sound. I stayed in that one spot for 5 hours. No lights/bullshit to break my trance... my bonding with the music. My only complaint was the placement of the speakers - the bass bins were on the floor and the rest of it was up with the DJ's whom you also could not see. Despite those few problems, Lenny D/Micro HARDCORE BLISS for almost 3 hours and then Osheen and Rio came on and spun amazing NON-Boston like HARDHOUSE to keep the energy groove going 'til the lights came on at 5am. Nothing like it I tell you. Now I know why I've been so bored to death in Boston (yawn). Man, the Providence/NYC scene is the shit. I always knew that, I've just been unfortunate enough to be trapped in Boston all winter long. I'm feeling that wonderful energy that I had last summer/fall at the Providence/NYC events. Home Planet was a continuation of the HARDHOUSE groove that lasted for a few more hours. Around 9:30 (?), something happened that stapled the feeling of a Prov/NYC party... The HARDHOUSE turned faster...louder... almost bordering on HARDCORE THAT late in the morning. THAT only seems to happen except with the NY/Prov crowd. When I'm winding down in the morning, nothing spreads a smile on my face like another burst of WICKED HARD HOUSE/HARDCORE. :) :) :) :) :) :) One more note: One element of raving that I never realized made such a difference. Besides all of the other beautiful elements I mentioned above, one thing that really gave this party an edge was the number of newcomers that were there. Sometimes that CAN be a problem (crowding, attitude), but this time I just saw a bunch of new people having the time of their life and really enjoying themselves. No scene-mongers, no attitude. Just the naivety of enjoying yourself with good music and having fun. That's what the scene means to me. dave. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 22 Mar 1993 11:09:37 -0400 (EDT) From: an excursion through technospace Subject: badges... because i was in california all last week, i didn't have time, nor did i WANT to think about the badges.. however,.. i'm back now! and either late tomorrow night, or sometime wednesday, i will make the "official" post. be prepared to email me your: net address real name "net name" etc.. peace >>taylor 8 0 8 k i c k w a v e [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1993 11:46:31 -0500 From: mIkE rObErTs Subject: Re: Ultraworld 5:Cosmic Spring + Actually WHFS has been playing techno for awhile. Zoltar has been spinning techno with the "Mutant Dance Party" since way back in July??August. If you listen to that show (Sat. @10pm??11pm) you should here CURRENT stuff, not just JBID, etc. I see him occationally in Triumverate Records buying stuff fresh off the presses. Mike [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Subject: Detroit From: aboulang@BBN.COM Date: Mon, 22 Mar 93 11:57:07 EST The Detroit scene is not bad (I guess, for argueably being the "birthplace" of techno and all), but I'm sure there's got to be a Metro/Detroit server, maybe at the Center for Creative Studies er something. I am interested in hearing more about the Detroit scene since I will be going there a bunch of times in Spring/Summer. Perhaps the public access system at Ann Arbor would be a place to start: -Public-Access Unix telnet hermes.merit.edu telnet m-net.ann-arbor.mi.us or telnet 35.208.17.4 (Which host: um-m-net Enter 'g' for guest. login: newuser) A humble navigator of electronic streams, Albert Boulanger aboulanger@bbn.com [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1993 13:38:46 -0500 (EST) From: Jacobredfield Subject: SUBSCRIBE please put my good friend David Dodson on the ne-raves list. thanks alot jAke David Dodson dcdst9@cis.pitt.edu [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Subject: Visuals - fractals From: IO20903@MAINE.maine.EDU (N. E. Tableman; I want information autonomy!) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 93 13:50:19 EST I recently help put together an incredibly cool visual effect. The parts needed are a VGA overhead projector attachment to a PC and a PC of course. The program included the Mandelbrot and Newton sets, color cycling and alternating back and forth at random rates. Included in this were subliminals which made it even stranger to watch. The equipment needed for this is quite expensive, but it looks incredible! NeT [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1993 12:05:28 -0800 From: Fred Heutte Subject: Re: Ultraworld 5:Cosmic Spring + That's kewl about WHFS. They were a major force in DC radio in the 1970s, and although they kept it going through the '80s (after I moved away) seemed like they were edging toward a pretty commercial format overall. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Mon, 22 Mar 93 14:04:29 EST From: djm@bedford.progress.COM (Dave McMahon) Subject: Home Planet song request This is going to be a weird request with not much info, but that's because I wasn't exactly in a complete frame of mind... :) There was this song that started the HARDCORE set at home planet on Sunday. It was the standard 4 on the floor, fast hard crispy beat. The intro was something about... "The world was created in 7 days" in this VERY low male voice. This voice continued into the song and was sampled throughout most of it. It was like the first song of the more picked up HARDCORE that started around 8:30-9ish (?). I've just been thinking about it all day. Any ideas? thanks dave. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: You WISH you knew my name Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1993 16:10:22 -0500 Subject: last Sat.'s VERNAL EQUINOX OK. I just wanted to ask about the rave. I heard That a girl O.D.ed on something last Saturday. dead. Is there any truth to it? Rich . [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Subject: ** C2 tape announcement ** From: Desi the Three-Armed Wonder Comic Date: Mon, 22 Mar 93 13:35:23 PST >** Connection II cassette ordering info ** > >DJs: Scott Hardkiss, Jon Drukman, Moonpup, Lee, BLURrrr > >345 minutes (almost 6 hours!) of music on 4 BASF cobalt + (type II) >tapes, recorded with Dolby HX pro. Mastered direct from the mixing >board to DAT at 48 khz, then professionally duplicated, boxed with a >full 4 color insert card and shrinkwrapped... suitable for gift >giving... :-) > >There have been some very strong reviews of the music played at this >event... and the master DATs sound great. are you including all that fun busted-needle-skating-around-on-records stuff from the beginning of the berkeley marina music? /j/ [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1993 16:54:42 -0500 (EST) From: Jacobredfield Subject: subscribe hello again, sorry for waisting bandwidth. reposting, because something went wrong the first time message was sent out.please put following person on list. thanx again!-jAke David Dodson dcdst9@cislabs.pitt.edu [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 22 Mar 1993 16:59:09 -0400 (EDT) From: an excursion through technospace Subject: hold on badge people!!! :) please don' send me your badge info yet.. 'cos i need more info from you than i posted earlier.. please wait until i post the "official" thing.. ya gettin' all anxious! :) soon.. i promise.. peace >>taylor.loves.when.people.mock.his.posts ' c o s i t ' s a n e t f o r m o f s a m p l i n g . . . [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Mon, 22 Mar 93 14:48:39 PST From: Bob Ramstad Subject: ** C2 tape announcement ** Ah, good question... Jon Drukman started out the Connection II Berkeley Marina set with a bustin' tune ("Ampex alignment tape... begin at 700 hz"), after about 5 minutes, he attempted to mix to the other turntable, with a hashed needle (!) Really cool skating sounds followed. Jon then DJed (for lack of a better term, he only had one turntable) for another 28 minutes until the emergency needle squad arrived on the scene... Precisely, there were gaps of 15-20 seconds between songs for about a 23 minute period (from the end of the first non-mixed song to the start of the last non-mixed song, which ends one side of one cassette). To evoke the memories of being there, the first song ends in about 5 seconds of skating noise, followed by 5 seconds of silence, then the second tune. Subsequent non-mixed tunes (again, about 28 minutes worth) have less than 1 second blank space between them. I decided to do it this way rather than remixing everything together because I wanted the tape to be a somewhat accurate reproduction of what happened (I hate "live" albums which are overdubbed, and it would be weird to have remixing done after the fact) but the long gaps are really distracting and so I made the listenability tradeoff of short gaps between songs. It would have been easy to make the decision to not include the non-mixed portion of Jon's set -- but the tunes were absolutely killer, and when 'with much rejoicing' the first tune blared out of the (relocated) sound system, everyone was way stoked, so these tunes evoke some of the best memories I have from C2. Consider these 33 minutes as 'substance over form'. This is the prospective layout: 1A Scott Hardkiss 44 minutes 1B Scott Hardkiss 11 minutes + Jon Drukman 33 minutes no mixing 2A Jon Drukman 42 minutes + Moonpup 3 minutes 2B Moonpup 45 minutes 3A Moonpup 38 minutes 3B Moonpup 17 minutes + Lee 21 minutes 4A Lee 45 minutes 4B BLURrrr 45 minutes All sides, except for 1B, are unbroken and completely as played at C2. All sides in order represent ** everything ** that was played at C2 except for about 10 minutes of Lee's set where there was so much water on a record that it was skipping (!) The splits onto cassette at this point are fairly set in stone, I've listened to them extensively, and this will give the best result aesthetically. Yeah, I know, it would be cool to have each DJ restricted to a side or a whole tape or something, but there's no sane way of doing that -- I've already looked at it. Part of the problem is set lengths -- none of the DJs did a nice 30, 45, 60, or 90 minute set, except for BLURrrr, and he's all nice on a side by himself. Also, one more thing: sets are $25, but if I get enough orders, I'll probably be refunding a few $$ per set. This cost is based on a really low minimum number of orders, which I've already gotten :-) and a small run of tapes costs more per tape than a larger run of tapes (Professional Duplication 101) It'll be a bit longer before I can ascertain if there will be enough orders to make it economically feasible to do 4 color insert cards -- doesn't really make sense unless I get 100 orders or so -- but as this would be one of the more fun parts of the project, I'm hoping. Send me email if you've been living in a bubble and missed the ordering info, it was posted all over the place last week :-) Bob boccibob%groovy@us.oracle.com (preferred) or rramstad@us.oracle.com [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 22 Mar 1993 19:58:05 -0500 (EST) From: AI3264%ALBNYVMS.bitnet@UACSC2.ALBANY.EDU Subject: ALBANY/TROY RAVE- VERNAL EQUINOX... .....Howdy people..Don't have much time to post so I'll be short....The first real rave in the Albany area went over well. It was held in an old gym/wharehouse- it was a pretty scuzzy place, kind of falling apart and stuff, but was able to provide for it's purpose. Visuals/lighting were cool, the djs (the ones that made it on) Scott, Desi, Mr. Kleen, Lil Sprout were great, the vibe was in the air, there were all sorts of people from every different ethnicity to every different genre of music/culture- that made it quite meaningf ul, and showed one of the "true" purposes for raves- a coming together of the youth population for the acknowledgement of the primal instinct to dance and gro ove, something that is in us all. I had a really great time, lots of friends from my school and other areas, everybody seemed to have a good time. By 2:30 or so the cops started to show up, and by 4:00 things were shut down. According to some people a young lady was carried outside after she apparently passed o ut,from what I know not. This was around 2:00, and apparently how the cops fo und out where and what was going on.....well yesterday while watching the local news the third story mentioned was how a young lady of 19 years had died mysteriously after attending "an alll night party in a wharehouse in downtown Tr Troy"- well this shocked the crap out of me and others I'm sure. Today it was on all the local news shows and one station even did a 5 min. segment on the death and about what raves are. It is not known what she died of, right now all they are saying is heart failure...It is not known if she overdosed, but this seems to be the "logical" explaination for it by most people around here. Question is do we have a real rave-related death as it is being called by the media, or some freak accident/mishap...regardless the media is having/going to have a frenzy with this until the truth is known. I mean it is bad enough that when you say the word rave to non-ravers and such it means sex, drugs, and all that other crazy shit you've heard "reported" by the media. Luckily though most of the local reports are not emphasizing the drug part much, only saying that raves "could be potentially dangerous in terms of overcrowding and fire hazards, and that it does attract drugs and alcohol use"- like there are no clubs like this? Anyway I thougt I'd let you all know of this stange situation that may have the potential to get out of hand......I will post as I find out more... most of all TAKE CARE OF YOURSELVES!- I think you all know that.... . Looking to the future- Love & Peace -ToNy_ ...Go to Neubula 3! [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 22 Mar 1993 20:18:24 -0400 (EDT) From: DJESRANI%COLGATEU.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu Subject: Re: last Sat.'s VERNAL EQUINOX I was told by my friends (Manish, Tony, et al.) at Albany that the girl who was carried outside and put in the ambulance, died.. In fact, I think they said that she died even before she was taken away. The fact that someone died at a rave makes me feel really weird about the whole thing. From what I understand, the media's all over it. The cops will un- doubtedly be at Nebula III on Saturday, checking shit out.. Ugh. If the Albany posse has any more info, please post. Darshan [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 22 Mar 1993 21:20:39 -0500 (EST) From: AI3264%ALBNYVMS.bitnet@UACSC2.ALBANY.EDU Subject: ...Sleepiness .....lack of sleep and midterms make your posts look like shit.... Sorry for my sloppiness! -ToNy_ [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1993 21:44:55 -0500 (EST) From: Alan Michael Parry Subject: Back to the Future concerns.. On March 22nd Albatross wrote: > Second hand info isn't the way to RAVE,,,, I know. So why can't Michael himself clear up any rumors flying around? I'm sure if he's going out of his way so much to give us an incredible rave he can find time to answer a few queries. If not, we can ask Richard James himself on Saturday with any luck. Coming from the lips of the promoter/organizer does not make it any more reliable than information I have heard. --Fluid [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: techno016@aol.com Subject: Re: michael meacham vs. future Date: Mon, 22 Mar 93 12:15:13 EST hiya people i wrote mm and here is what he has to say....partyon...susie (: ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- Well I have to say that DJ Onionz will not be playing at our rave. Its my falt that I did not get him a contract in time. Also Onionz feels that he is not about playing to such a big event like this one. I guess he feels its not underground (it's not) As far as N.R.G. and Aphex Twin: I have full legal contracts with Impact Mangment (as well as paying for all of them up front) I don't know how all this got started but If you could put a end to it I would be greatfull. Thank You Michael Meacham [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Mon, 22 Mar 93 22:14:16 -0500 From: jna@silver.lcs.mit.edu (Thrill Kill Kult) Subject: Re: Atlantis/Home Planet Why is it that everytime someone goes to a rave it's the "best rave ever"` ? -john [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1993 22:20 EDT From: ST890259@PIP.CC.BRANDEIS.EDU Subject: oops From: IN%"postmaster@PIP.CC.BRANDEIS.EDU" "PMDF Mail Server" 22-MAR-1993 22:15:27.41 To: IN%"postmaster@PIP.CC.BRANDEIS.EDU", IN%"ST890259@PIP.CC.BRANDEIS.EDU" CC: Subj: Undeliverable mail: SMTP delivery failure Received: from PIP.CC.BRANDEIS.EDU by PIP.CC.BRANDEIS.EDU (PMDF #12080) id <01GW4HXULV8G000VFG@PIP.CC.BRANDEIS.EDU>; Mon, 22 Mar 1993 22:14 EDT Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1993 22:14 EDT From: PMDF Mail Server Subject: Undeliverable mail: SMTP delivery failure To: postmaster@PIP.CC.BRANDEIS.EDU, ST890259@PIP.CC.BRANDEIS.EDU Message-id: <01GW4HXULV8G000VFG@PIP.CC.BRANDEIS.EDU> The message could not be delivered to: Addressee: neraves@gnu.ai.mit.edu Reason: ... User unknown ---------------------------------------- Received: from PIP.CC.BRANDEIS.EDU by PIP.CC.BRANDEIS.EDU (PMDF #12080) id <01GW4HXFNMB8000VOE@PIP.CC.BRANDEIS.EDU>; Mon, 22 Mar 1993 22:14 EDT Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1993 22:14 EDT From: ST890259@PIP.CC.BRANDEIS.EDU Subject: hello finally! To: neraves@gnu.ai.mit.edu Message-id: <01GW4HXFNMB8000VOE@PIP.CC.BRANDEIS.EDU> X-VMS-To: IN%"neraves@gnu.ai.mit.edu" hey, y'all, i just want to share my joy with you because i am now finally on the list. It's bonnie, i'm sure to have seen many of you at Atlantis,etc. I had a really groovy time and i'm looking forward to more big fun. It was kind of a drag about the pool, though. Who lives in the place where the after hours party was? Is He/She an artist. I am a painter and was interested in asking about one of the mixed media pieces I saw. Any info? Thanks, Sloth in peace, b o n n i e [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1993 22:29:00 -0500 From: greg.ipp@rose.com Subject: Re: last Sat.'s VERNAL EQ Date Entered: 03-22-93 22:24 Quoted From: DJESRANI%COLGATEU.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu > > I was told by my friends (Manish, Tony, et al.) at Albany that the girl > who was carried outside and put in the ambulance, died.. In fact, I > think they said that she died even before she was taken away. > > The fact that someone died at a rave makes me feel really weird about > the whole thing. > > From what I understand, the media's all over it. The cops will un- > doubtedly be at Nebula III on Saturday, checking shit out.. Ugh. > This is really sad for two reasons: 1. someone died at a rave (not something you want to hear), and 2. the repercussions this will have on the whole scene. I'm going to wait and see if the networks pick this up... hopefully they won't, but if they do, you can be sure that we'll be subjected to some heavily one-sided reporting. A friend of mine wanted to write something on raves for a local paper he was working at here for a co-op. His editor told him that if he didn't play up the negative aspects of raves, he would basically fire my friend. He was told to call the police and ask what they think about them (hmmm...), and write about how drugs are a large part of the scene. After some discussion, my friend got a re-assignment for his co-op, and ended up not having to write the story. It just shows you how people _want_ raves to look bad... I don't know enough about this incident to make any educated comments, but it's my guess that the death had more to do with someone's irresponsibility than the rave environment. If you do do drugs, buy from someone you know, and make sure that what you're getting is _pure_ (of course, that goes without saying). It's surprising how many people just take something when they're completely unprepared for the effects. > If the Albany posse has any more info, please post. > > Darshan > > greg.ipp@rose.com / rev@cibbs.uucp * "Stuck in a floaty whirlpool..." --- RoseReader 2.10 P001297 Entered at [ROSE] RoseMail 2.10 : RoseNet<=>Usenet Gateway : Rose Media 416-733-2285 [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1993 22:36:47 -0500 (EST) From: mike perkowitz Subject: Re: Atlantis/Home Planet On Mon, 22 Mar 1993, Thrill Kill Kult wrote: > Why is it that everytime someone goes to a rave it's the "best rave ever"` ? cuz they just keep getting better and better? ;) mike [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Mon, 22 Mar 93 22:33:34 EST From: susie Subject: a chance to ask mr. future well guys...here is your big chance..email me...sk2479a@american.edu with your questions about future...cuz i will call mr. future himself and ask him all the questions you guys want me too.,..i asked him to post his responce to dcraves and neraves but he didn't so i posted it for him...i think it is uncool for him not to join at least dcraves..(ok so i am big time biased,,,)...but whatever.. ..so send me your questions...i will tape the conversation if i have to to prov e what he said it true...although like derek said...not a lot of promoters are honest...so what ever....send those questions now...maybe he will post answeres to them...i donno.,..i just don't know what to ask...so help me out here...par tyon...susie (: [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: Matthew S Macqueen Subject: new 808 any good? Date: Mon, 22 Mar 93 22:37:02 EST Hi I know that it's not NEW anymore, but could someone give me their opinion of the recent disk by 808 State. I really liked the "Pacific" and "In Yo' Face" singles, but as a disk "Ud. State 90" was just kind of, well, OK. I think it's called "GORGIOUS" Lata'............ C u e (Q) . . . . . . . . . [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Mon, 22 Mar 93 22:41:39 -0500 From: jna@silver.lcs.mit.edu (Thrill Kill Kult) Subject: Atlantis Atlantis was, on the whole, excellent. Music was great, hardcore was brilliant, and running into the usual suspects of ne-raves was great! djm@progress.com: > My only complaint was the placement of the speakers - the bass bins > were on the floor and the rest of it was up with the DJ's whom you also > could not see.. multiple attempts were made to move the bass bins into the rooms, but they just wouldn't fit in right.. Brian (Sona Sound) and I spent some time EQing the sound, because of the echo cancellation and extra bass created by the small,live rooms... djm@progress.com: > Despite the early ending at the Healthclub [...] Once again, a rave was held in a location too nice for people to respect. Multiple tiles were broken out in the lower levels, holes in the walls, the usual, and stupid graffitti tags on white walls, and damage to carpets by people too lazy to use ashtrays or garbage cans. Because of this, the owners decended upon manny like crazed idiots, and demanded that he shut down ASAP. (also, they had to open at 8:30am, and it took 5 hours to set up. I guess they had to break down in <3 hrs.) I still don't understand why people can't respet the area that the rave is held in. The promoter, although an idiot, will have to pay for damages. Then again, the location was poorly chosen. It was too nice for a rave... Working bathrooms were wonderful, as were places to sit down and places to relax. You could go downstairs into the sauna or hottub area, and get away completely from all noise. I had a lot of funl I just wish peole would respect sites better.. -john [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 22 Mar 1993 23:28:56 -0500 (EST) From: TOWER OF DUB Subject: more vernal equinox i was there with tony on saturday. i saw the girl being carried out by 4 or 5 people (she was a bit large)... she looked like she passed out and was moving her hand a little bit (she was alive, but definitely not well). she wasn't dressed like a raver, she looked more like a first timer. however, she was from the bronx so i don't see why a non- raver was in albany when there is always something to do in NYC. the whole thing was weird. watching the news was weird, and scary. to be completely selfish- i waited for a rave to happen here and it finally does and some girl dies. that sucks shit, not only for her, but for the rest of us. this town is just complete shit and i know that it will be a long time before anything happens here again. i dunno. it should not have happened... has this ever happened anywhere before? manish [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 22 Mar 1993 23:34:38 -0500 (EST) From: TOWER OF DUB Subject: even more vernal equinox i don't think she was dead when they carried her out. she looked like she had passed out... and she was moving a little bit, as i said. i am certain she died in the ambulence b/c cops were scoping the chill out room (for drugs?) long before they shut it down. when the did shut it down and we were outside, there were at least 4-6 police cars and 1 fire marshall car. one car was marked "evidence" and the cops came in with a vengeance, ripping down stuff that people had set up.flashlights pointing everywhere... i heard police dogs were outside. i am fairly certain she died in the ambulence... tony pointed out that he noticed that some people were crying outside while we were leaving, though he thought nothing of it at the time... manish [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1993 00:48:08 -0500 (EST) From: Jacobredfield Subject: BRIAN@CMU brian, i deleted some of my mail by accident with your code being on one of the posts - send a shout! - jAke. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Mon, 22 Mar 93 21:57:39 -0800 From: ccat@netcom.com (Chris) Subject: Perspective.. Lets get the whole danger-of-raves scene in perspective.. It's not at all uncommon for people to be killed or die in bars,or immediately after leaving them.. Do they devote extensive coverage to this in TV news.. _no_. Whenever you have a large number of people together, there are going to be some accidents.. I feel that raves are far safer than most other events of this size..(certainly compared to rock concerts and ballgames,where everyone gets drunk..) That's the point to look at. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1993 02:36:33 -0500 (EST) From: Jacobredfield Subject: New subscrib@PITT Whats up! my friend Dave just joined ne-raves on 3-24-93. The pitt scene is growing:) it's offical another one on the list:) !!!! Send him some mail thanks alot - jAke [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1993 02:56:31 -0500 (EST) From: Jacobredfield Subject: newsubscribe@PITT Whats up! On 3/ 24/ 93 david dodson joined ne raves:) !!!! The pitt scene is growing by the day. For eveyone in the pitt area or wherever, send some mail to Dave. Thanks alot. - jAke <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1993 09:01:53 -0500 From: Todd Tibbetts Subject: Re: last Sat.'s VERNAL EQ On Mon, 22-Mar-1993, greg.ipp@rose.com (greg.ipp@rose.com) said: > Quoted From: DJESRANI%COLGATEU.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu > > I was told by my friends (Manish, Tony, et al.) at Albany that the girl > > who was carried outside and put in the ambulance, died. > > This is really sad for two reasons: 1. someone died at a rave (not > something you want to hear), and 2. the repercussions this will have > on the whole scene. I'm going to wait and see if the networks pick > this up... hopefully they won't, but if they do, you can be sure that > we'll be subjected to some heavily one-sided reporting. I have been hearing about this all over and I too am worried about how this story will be played up in the media. This woman who died is being USED from every direction. Does anyone know the REAL story? We are still collecting stories for Fuzzy Logik Magazine and we would be willing to print THE TRUE DOPE out of respect for our peer and to show the world that we are not a bunch of heathen, drug-feind, tone-deaf criminals. Is anyone willing to honestly report on this? tt [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: "Golden Boy" Date: Tue, 23 Mar 93 09:06:12 CST Subject: Re: Atlantis/Home Planet On Mon, 22 Mar 93 22:14:16 -0500, Thrill Kill Kult wrote: >Why is it that everytime someone goes to a rave it's the "best rave ever"` ? > > >-john cuz the vibe iz still alive within you...while the vibez of ravez gone past are faded memoriez :)...like you really wanted an answer... +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ <> deb9@pop.cwru.edu "Elvis has left the building..." [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: "Golden Boy" Date: Tue, 23 Mar 93 09:16:56 CST Subject: don't believe the hype On Mon, 22 Mar 1993 22:29:00 -0500, wrote: >It just >shows you how people _want_ raves to look bad... > Actually I don't think the media givez a shit about ravez one way or another...it'z just a tool for propaganda...sensationalism sellz...that'z the bottom line...CHA CHING !...the mystique attatched to ravez (of the past) is perfect for capturing the attention of the finite mentalities of those that allow the river of bullshit the media spewz to sweep them right along into the next 'new' topic of sensationalism...i'd say that the majority of people that swallow the hype, regardless of the taste, have never even asked themselvez the question "WHY ?"...for then they would actually be held accountable for thier thoughtz and actionz...that'z scary...it'z far more efficient to believe what you see and hear...adopt stereotypical viewz...and follow the piper. [stepz down off of soapbox to retrieve loose change] peace. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ <> deb9@pop.cwru.edu "Elvis has left the building..." [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 23 Mar 93 10:54:26 EST From: djm@bedford.progress.COM (Dave McMahon) Subject: Re: ALBANY/TROY RAVE- VERNAL EQUINOX... > From @UACSC2.ALBANY.EDU:AI3264@ALBNYVMS.BITNET Mon Mar 22 20:07:13 1993 > the vibe was in the air, there were all sorts of people from every different > ethnicity to every different genre of music/culture- that made it quite > meaningful, and showed one of the "true" purposes for raves- a coming together > of the youth population for the acknowledgement of the primal instinct to > dance and groove, something that is in us all. I had a really great time, Exactly what I experienced and expressed in my review of Atlantis. I'm glad to see someone else noticed the same thing. It's the simplicity and wonder of new faces that creates the most genuine vibe. Cool experience. dave. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 23 Mar 93 11:19:01 EST From: djm@bedford.progress.COM (Dave McMahon) Subject: Re: last Sat.'s VERNAL EQ > A friend of mine wanted to write something on raves for a local > paper he was working at here for a co-op. His editor told him that if > he didn't play up the negative aspects of raves, he would basically > fire my friend. He was told to call the police and ask what they > think about them (hmmm...), and write about how drugs are a large part > of the scene. After some discussion, my friend got a re-assignment > for his co-op, and ended up not having to write the story. It just > shows you how people _want_ raves to look bad... This sounds terribly familiar. I remeber hearing a story, on a sort of related note, where a bio-chemist suggested to his boss at a granola bar company to change a few ingredients at no cost to the company to make the bar healthier so that the consumer would a) be eating a healthier bar and b) only have to eat 1 as opposed to the 3-4 that they would want to eat when the bars are pumped with sugar and other ingredients to increase your appetite. The chemist told his boss that it was immoral to do business that way. He's was fired on the spot. Dontcha just luv capitalism? It sure looks out for our own good, eh? whatever sells... whatever sells. Oh a happier note: That said chemist went on and started his own extremely successful and healthy bakery. dave. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 23 Mar 93 11:23:43 EST From: djm@bedford.progress.COM (Dave McMahon) Subject: Re: Atlantis > From jna@silver.lcs.mit.edu Mon Mar 22 22:49:36 1993 > I still don't understand why people can't respet the area that the rave is held > in. The promoter, although an idiot, will have to pay for damages. Then again, Who exactly is this "unseen element" that seems to trash every location we go to?!? If it's none of us, have we seen who it is? Is it anyone that any of us know well enough to tell them to knock it off? It makes me pretty sad. I'm starting the think the scene is a farce. Happy positive vibe != selfishly trash and destroy. dave [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1993 11:37:07 -0500 (EST) From: mike perkowitz Subject: pictures are finally back! okay, i have little picture-packets for everyone who ordered some (derek, jesse, tina, becca, donato, kris, damian, oz, dave). send me a mailing address if you haven't already. i don't really know how much postage will be - i sent out eight pics a few days ago and it was 52 cents. unfortunately, the orders got a little messed up (only on a few of the pics), so i threw in extras for people who were missing some. i think it balances out - i substituted for any missing pics and added a couple of extras to make you happy. :) unfortunately, one picture which i think was among the best (roll 2, #11 i think) wasn't printed at all! if i go back to the same place, i may demand some extra prints of it. but right now, i just want to get these things out and to you. enjoy! my address is: mike perkowitz box 4160 brown university providence, ri 02912 mike [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 23 Mar 1993 11:59:13 -0400 (EDT) From: an excursion through technospace Subject: albany... i missed the first few posts about this horrible thing.. the girl died from drugs? what kind? ... we're speechless here... >>taylor [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: ldaly@acs.bu.edu (Liza Daly) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 93 12:52:57 -0500 Subject: Re: last Sat.'s VERNAL EQ >I remeber hearing a story, on a sort of related note, where a bio-chemist >suggested to his boss at a granola bar company to change a few ingredients >at no cost to the company to make the bar healthier so that the consumer would >a) be eating a healthier bar and b) only have to eat 1 as opposed to the 3-4 >that they would want to eat when the bars are pumped with sugar and other >ingredients to increase your appetite. The chemist told his boss that it >was immoral to do business that way. He's was fired on the spot. >Dontcha just luv capitalism? It sure looks out for our own good, eh? >whatever sells... whatever sells. >Oh a happier note: That said chemist went on and started his own extremely >successful and healthy bakery. >dave. Good story, but it sounds like an urban myth... Kinda like the one about the guy who invented the pill to replace gasoline. :-) -- Liz [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 23 Mar 93 13:18:06 EST From: djm@bedford.progress.COM (Dave McMahon) Subject: Re: last Sat.'s VERNAL EQ > From ldaly@acs.bu.edu Tue Mar 23 13:03:04 1993 > >Oh a happier note: That said chemist went on and started his own extremely > >successful and healthy bakery. > > > >dave. > > Good story, but it sounds like an urban myth... Kinda like the one about > the guy who invented the pill to replace gasoline. :-) I heard it on NPR (National Public Radio) and they were interviewing the guy. Very bright guy. He has around 50 employees and sells his nutrient pumped breads all over the Chicago area. Employees enjoy better health benefits than most companies and they're allowed to take home as much of the food that they can carry. For free. :) dave. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: ldaly@acs.bu.edu (Liza Daly) Subject: Re: last Sat.'s VERNAL EQUINOX Date: Tue, 23 Mar 93 13:47:48 EST Forwarded message: > I heard it on NPR (National Public Radio) and they were interviewing the guy. > > Very bright guy. He has around 50 employees and sells his nutrient pumped > breads all over the Chicago area. Employees enjoy better health benefits than > most companies and they're allowed to take home as much of the food that they > can carry. For free. :) > > dave. > Color me corrected. :-) [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 23 Mar 93 13:39 EST From: laura@usl.com Subject: swimming in the seas of rave Hi everyone, I'm back. On the list that is. After one month+ of not really being here, I'm able to read without getting emotionally worked up, so I thought I'd come back and hang out. Anyway, here's my view on Atlantis: (1) The space was a bad choice. If a promoter thinks he can have several hundred people in for a party without having the place trashed he's being very stupid. And I think the people who throw their flyers, cigarettes, and candy wrappers everywhere should be ashamed of themselves. I know we've had this discussion before here, and that most of us look for trash cans or stuff garbage in our rave bags or pockets or whatever rather than dumping stuff on the floor . . . but we're really just a minority in the general scheme of things. However, we can't go around like parents and remind people to respect the location. Errrgh. (2) The division between doing it for the scene and doing it for the green became abundantly clear. I love Lenny Dee and what he's done for hardcore in America (let's all be thankful for his Industrial Strength label), but it hit me in a strange way that he arrived for his set, played it, and then left. Lenny was there to get paid. There is ABSOLUTELY nothing wrong with wanting to make money, that's for sure, it just seemed to me that the old vibe of everyone being together all night long was gone. Atlantis had very mainstream/ commercial overtones to it: the pool/sauna/etc location was a big gimmick, *big* name DJs were brought in just because they'd draw a crowd, the rave ended way too early so people went to yet another party they had to pay for . . . I'm not saying that Atlantis was bad, because it wasn't really, I'm just saying it lacked some of the fundamental qualities that I like to see in a rave. Atlantis was pretty, happy, and very much on the commercial side in some respects. (3) That said, the music on the night was good. Once we got Overload's typical Loft breakbeat out of the way, we had two solid hours of hardcore, followed by some hard trance by Osheen, and then the freshest house set I've ever heard, spun by Rio from New York City. I usually don't even like house music, but Rio's choices in music are changing my opinion. The DJs did their jobs well at Atlantis, I guess my beef really lies with the *space* and the trash, not with the music and the vast majority of the people. (4) One thing that bugged me was that this guy and his (now ex I'd say) girlfriend were having the HUGEST fight right next to the bass bins in the "laser" room during Micro's hardcore set. They were screaming the most vile things and each other so loudly I could hear it over the hardcore. She'd scream at him, punch him, go away, and come back later and yell at him some more. The poor guy was really upset and basically sat in the corner and cried and screamed in anger and upsetment and frustration. Fortunately they both had some friends there to comfort them. I've never seen such an outpouring of hate in public like this before. It really made me think about what the heck the point is of loving another person, and how easily love can turn to hate, and how fighting and arguing with your loved one is so stupid and distructive. I'm getting off the subject, here, though: at one point the girl wandered back for the umpteenth time to hit and scream at the poor guy. I turned to one of her friends and said "please get her out of here, she's being really disruptive and isn't helping him any." Her friends got her out of there, but she returned later to dance very agressively and provocatively in front of the poor guy. What a mess. (5) Overall, the two hours of hardcore I experienced were probably the two best hours I've spent at a rave all year (once the fighting lovers were seperated, that is). However, I would not say that Atlantis was the best rave I've been to this year, as it felt more like a club what with the health-club space and the fact that it was closed down at 10 minutes to 5 in the morning. It was great to see Kris, Neith, Becca, Kreig, and Mike, and everyone else. And, to tell the truth, the fact that they were all glad to see me is what prompted me to get back on ne-raves. Laura [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: "B.R.Smyth" Subject: ?? (fwd) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1993 12:51:13 +0000 (GMT) Forwarded message: [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: "I.Sheldon" Subject: ?? Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1993 12:27:19 +0000 (GMT) Sorry for sending you this mail but you were the last 20 user ids who used the writeon program and so I thought I'd spread a little joy and happiness by mailing this to you... Anyway, you all know what to do with it... If it offends you, delete it. Otherwise, mail it onto 20 friends, or 20 complete strangers if you haven't got 20 friends! Bye! AC25@UK.AC.YORK.VAXA writes: > From AC25@UK.AC.YORK.VAXA Wed Mar 17 12:19:24 1993 > Date: Wed, 17 Mar 93 12:20 GMT > From: AC25@UK.AC.YORK.VAXA > To: CM5211@UK.AC.WOLVERHAMPTON.CCUB > Subject: ?? > > From: VAXB::MDB4 17-MAR-1993 12:02:32.84 > To: A, BIG_AL > CC: > Subj: ?? > > From: VAXB::TJE2 "THEY CALL HIM FLIPPER..." 17-MAR-1993 12:01:12.73 > To: CTM2, DMH10, DRKM1, MJB21, PMC1, PB11, ADN2, APB5, AGG3, CAJ3, CSG2, DGAS1, DIS4, DJA4, DMB6, MDB4, JRM9, MKF1, RDR2, SCS4 > CC: > Subj: > > > everyone needs a little help once in a while... > Dont send it to anyone ive sent it too allready, an dont send it back to me! > > Sorry if anyone takes offence, but you are the first 20 i found on my > friends file that i thought might laugh. > > > > From: CBS%UK.AC.NOTTINGHAM.COMPUTER-SCIENCE::ADS 17-MAR-1993 11:40:14.37 > To: tje2 > CC: > Subj: You definately need this help > > Via: UK.AC.NOTTINGHAM.COMPUTER-SCIENCE; Wed, 17 Mar 93 11:39 GMT > Received: from robin.cs.nott.ac.uk by marian.Cs.Nott.AC.UK id aa02939; > 17 Mar 93 11:35 GMT > To: tje2@uk.ac.york > Subject: You definately need this help > Date: Wed, 17 Mar 93 11:35:12 +0000 > From: Andrew David Smith > > > ------- Forwarded Message > > Received: from marian.cs.nott.ac.uk by robin.Cs.Nott.AC.UK id aa14771; > 15 Mar 93 18:40 GMT > Received: from robin.cs.nott.ac.uk by marian.Cs.Nott.AC.UK id aa15313; > 15 Mar 93 18:35 GMT > To: ads@Cs.Nott.AC.UK > Subject: I think you need this help. > Date: Mon, 15 Mar 93 18:35:27 +0000 > From: Pill > > > - ------- Forwarded Message > > Received: from marian.cs.nott.ac.uk by robin.Cs.Nott.AC.UK id aa11836; > 15 Mar 93 17:04 GMT > Received: from unicorn.nott.ac.uk by marian.Cs.Nott.AC.UK id aa11882; > 15 Mar 93 17:03 GMT > Received: by unicorn (4.1/SMI-4.1) > id AA07733; Mon, 15 Mar 93 17:03:33 GMT > Date: Mon, 15 Mar 93 17:03:33 GMT > From: "S.M.Edwards" > Message-Id: <9303151703.AA07733@unicorn> > Content-Type: binary > Content-Length: 8233 > Apparently-To: aeh@marian > > >From D.J.Cowley@vme.nott.ac.uk Mon Mar 15 16:32:54 1993 > Return-Path: > Received: from dir.nott.ac.uk by unicorn (4.1/SMI-4.1) > id AA06509; Mon, 15 Mar 93 16:32:53 GMT > Received: from vme.nott.ac.uk by dir.nott.ac.uk via JANET with NIFTP (PP) > id <24417-0@dir.nott.ac.uk>; Mon, 15 Mar 1993 16:31:46 +0000 > Date: Mon,15 Mar 93 16:32:02 GMT > From: D.J.Cowley@vme.nott.ac.uk > Subject: Forwarded message > To: emygse@unicorn.nott.ac.uk > Reply-To: lpyicma@psyc.nott.ac.uk > Comments: Here it is > Message-Id: <15_Mar_93_16:32:02_A11ADB@UK.AC.NOTT.VME> > > - - --- Forwarded message : > > Subject: Forwarded message > From: EEYIMPH@uk.ac.nottingham.ccc.vme > Date: Mon,15 Mar 93 14:17:23 GMT > Reply to: lpyicma@uk.ac.nottingham.psychology > To: EPXDJC@uk.ac.nottingham.ccc.vme > Comments: HI > Msg ID: <15_Mar_93_14:17:23_A1165D@UK.AC.NOTT.VME> > > > - - --- Forwarded message : > > Subject: Forwarded message > From: EEYIMPH@UK.AC.NOTTINGHAM.CCC.VME > Date: 15 Mar 93 13:59:24 > Reply to: lpyicma@uk.ac.nottingham.psychology > To: DMB9@UK.AC.YORK.VAXB > Comments: HI, FROM A FRIEND OF NICKS AT NOTTINGHAM > NO NOT JO > > ENJOY > MATT > Msg ID: <15 Mar 93 13:59:24 GMT A11592@UK.AC.NOTT.VME> > > - - --- Forwarded message : > > Subject: Forwarded message > From: EEYIJDB@uk.ac.nottingham.ccc.vme > Date: Fri,12 Mar 93 10:30:45 GMT > Reply to: lpyicma@uk.ac.nottingham.psychology > To: EEYIMPH@uk.ac.nottingham.ccc.vme > Comments: Matt here's a chain letter of the psychology department, now all I have to do is find another 19 people > Msg ID: <12_Mar_93_10:30:45_A11958@UK.AC.NOTT.VME> > > > - - --- Forwarded message : > > From: lpyicma@uk.ac.nottingham.psychology > Date: Thurs, 11 Mar 93 > Sender: lpyicma@uk.ac.nottingham.psychology > To: eeyijdb@uk.ac.nott.vme > Msg ID: > Received: from [128.243.31.51] by rpsyc.Psychology.Nottingham.AC.UK id aa23173; > 11 Mar 93 11:27 GMT > > > Received: from [128.243.31.1] by tpsyc.Psychology.Nott.AC.UK id aa28163; > 3 Mar 93 14:18 GMT > Received: from seqa.bris.ac.uk by rpsyc.Psychology.Nottingham.AC.UK id aa25088; > 3 Mar 93 14:16 GMT > Message-Id: <7328.9303031417@seqa.bristol.ac.uk> > Subject: You need all the help you can get !!! (fwd) > Sender: an2003@seqa.bris.ac.uk > To: Caroline M Anderson > Date: Wed, 3 Mar 93 14:17:33 WET > From: Wildman > X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] > > Forwarded message: > >From mauor@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 2 23:05:50 1993 > From: Mr D P Ellis > Message-Id: <13695.199303022304@clover.csv.warwick.ac.uk> > Subject: You need all the help you can get !!! (fwd) > To: an2003@uk.ac.bristol.seqa (B.P.Buckle) > Date: Tue, 2 Mar 93 23:04:07 GMT > X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL8] > > Forwarded message: > >From estaxfy@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 1 20:45:18 1993 > From: Mr T J Stidwill > Message-Id: <20861.199303012045@clover.csv.warwick.ac.uk> > Subject: You need all the help you can get !!! (fwd) > To: mauor@csv.warwick.ac.uk (David Ellis) > Date: Mon, 1 Mar 93 20:45:10 GMT > X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL8] > > Forwarded message: > >From S.J.Badham@bradford.ac.uk Fri Feb 26 23:01:51 1993 > Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1993 22:57:30 +0000 (GMT) > From: SJ BADHAM > Subject: You need all the help you can get !!! (fwd) > To: Mr T J Stidwill > Message-Id: > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > > > > > - - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1993 15:34:06 +0000 (GMT) > From: TKW PILKINGTON > To: compsoc-list@uk.ac.bradford > Subject: You need all the help you can get !!! (fwd) > > > > > > - - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1993 19:44:18 +0000 (GMT) > From: SA PRINGLE > To: T.K.W.Pilkington@uk.ac.bradford > Subject: You need all the help you can get !!! (fwd) > > > > > > - - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1993 21:01:26 +0000 (GMT) > From: RJ BOWYER > To: S.A.Pringle@uk.ac.bradford > Subject: You need all the help you can get !!! (fwd) > > > > > > - - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1993 16:39:41 +0000 (GMT) > From: N MARKLEW > To: Rachel Bowyer > Subject: You need all the help you can get !!! (fwd) > > I bet you already have this but if you receive it twice and mail 40 > copies, does that make the future twice as horny? > _____________________________________________________________________________ > > WITH SEX ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE > > This paper has been sent to you for good luck. The original has > been worn out from having passed through the hands of so many people. > It had travelled around the world 69 times [Dear Reader: please help > keep this count current. If this letter falls into your hands after > just completing one more circuit of the world, please add one to the > count.] > The luck has now been sent to you. You will experience great sex within > four days of receiving this letter, provided you send it on! Since the copy > must tour the world, you must make twenty copies and send them to others. > This is no joke. Send no money. Send copies to people who need to get > laid within 96 hours. > > After he passed this letter on, a Montana Spinach Control Officer got his > penis stuck in a cow-milking machine and had the longest series of orgasms > of his life. John Elliot tried to pick up a prositute, but, because he > broke the chain, was picked up by the police instead. When they searched > his home, they found magazines of little boys which they showed to his > neighbours. In a suburb of Paris, Don Loray's trousers were ripped by an > unsatisfied erection, 51 days after failing to circulate the letter. > However, before this happened, a condom machine gave him three condoms for > the price of one. (was this the consolation prize?) > > Do note the following: Hebert Pudstrom received the chain in 1953. He > asked his secretary to make twenty copies and send them out. A few days > later he encountered her in a red-light district making more than he had > every paid her at work. General George Patton, who sent the letter on, saw > what he thought was a quarter in the street. When he bent down to pick it > up, a beautiful woman in a miniskirt walked by, and he got a great view. > His aide, Colonel Roger Bumswiver, who did not pass on the letter, tried to > pick up a similar object but was fucked up the ass by a desperate gay > when he bent over. Heywood Daddit, an unemployed chicken choker, > received the letter and forgot that it had to leave his hands within 96 > hours. His wife then went bowling with his best friend and never > returned. Later, after finding the letter again, he mailed twenty copies. > A few days later he got a wife and discovered that his old wife, who he > thought was wonderful, had made love to him like a dead salmon for all > these years! Alan Fairchild received the letter and, not believing, threw > the letter away. Nine days later he spilled hot coffee in his crotch. > > In 1987 the letter received by a young woman in Texas was faded and barely > readable, so she did not realize that this paragraph applied to her. She > promised herself she would retype the letter and send it on, but she put it > aside to do later. She was plagued with problems including herpes and > other venereal diseases she contracted in her futile attempts to find Mr. > Right in a singles bar. The letter did not leave her hands in 96 hours. > She finally typed the letter and found a man with a 10-inch penis. > (Only 10 ?-NM) > > You must distribute at least twenty copies within 96 hours of > receiving this letter. Those who do will find their love lives > more fulfilling. Those who do not will be doomed to one-night stands > with mechanical devices. > > Enjoy... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - - ----- End Included Message ----- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > - - --- End of forwarded message > - - --- End of forwarded message > - - --- End of forwarded message > - - --- End of forwarded message > > > > - ------- End of Forwarded Message > > > ------- End of Forwarded Message > > Have fun! --Shell JANET : cm5211@uk.ac.wlv.ccub INTERNET or UUCP : cm5211%ccub.wlv.ac.uk@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk Quote of the day: I am the anti-christ, that's what I was meant to be... Your god left me behind and set my soul to be free! -- Send all _new_ quotes to cm5211@ccub.wlv.ac.uk and they will be added to the quotes database as soon as possible! -- [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Subject: Disappointed with Analogue Bubblebath 3 From: Rob H Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1993 14:53:21 -0500 Well, I picked up Analogue Bubblebath 3 on CD and my first impressions are a bit poor. The music ranges from the rather pleasant somewhat poppy side, to some harsh industrialish noises. In terms a danceability, it's quite a mixed bag as well. I guess my problem with it is that while Aphex Twin appears to be leaning towards listening techno, there just doesn't seem to be enough variety in his style... I end up feeling a bit frustrated after listening to more than a few tracks. So what's turning me off? It isn't that the music is inaccessible -- it's no stranger than other AFX tracks I've heard... I hate to say it, but some (not all) of the tracks are downright boring. Anyone else have any comments on AB3? Later, Rob rhwang@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1993 15:16:52 -0500 (EST) From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: swimming in the seas of rave On Tue, 23 Mar 1993, laura@usl.com wrote: > > Hi everyone, I'm back. On the list that is. After one month+ of not > really being here, I'm able to read without getting emotionally worked up, > so I thought I'd come back and hang out. Wellllllcome Back! Joe (187- Mobile Live Techno Vibes) [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 23 Mar 93 13:05:44 PST From: rsammuli@ceti.csustan.edu (Robert Sammuli) Subject: Re: Sunshine V-RAVE connection! I hear there's going to be a cool rave this weekend labeled PURE. I was wondering if you could pass on some gen'l info if you have it. We are planning to go(a group of about 10 people)and most have not really experienced a true rave. Is this a true pure rave or is it some cheesy redndition of one. What else is going on that you know of that could prove fun and exciting? We are coming from a small little university in Turlock. Would appreciate it Thank you, ****BOB*** [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1993 16:36:42 -0500 (EST) From: Alan Michael Parry Subject: >>> HOM <<< Since everyone is so eager to know what everyone else is doing this weekend, I'm putting out an early request for HOM info. Let me know where you are going and if you need a ride etc etc etc etc etc etc. --Fluid [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1993 17:12:48 -0500 (EST) From: Alan Michael Parry Subject: RE: Chain letter I was thinking of a reply to this but frankly I'm speachless. You English people need your heads seen to.... ;) --Fluid [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1993 17:28:30 -0500 From: Joe Turner Subject: Chain Letter Idiocy DO NOT SEND CHAIN LETTERS VIA THE INTERNET! -- I'll repeat that just in case you didn't understand it -- DO NOT SEND CHAIN LETTERS VIA THE INTERNET! Not only does it clog up the network unnecessarily, slow down the list's home machine (gnu.ai.mit.edu has to send that huge message for every member of the list!), and generally waste TONS of bandwidth, but it is also an *improper use of the network*. Network chain letters are a bad idea. Site administrators don't like it, network administrators don't like it, most USERS don't like it, and it could easily get the list owner and the list's home site in trouble, depending on the size of the list. /joe -|-|-|-|-|-|/\-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|- Joe Turner < > cutter@cs.umb.edu \/ You have permission to boogie [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 23 Mar 93 19:05:28 From: jeremias@MIT.EDU (Jeremy Grainger) Subject: response to chain idiot 1) See Joe's message!!!! 2) See Joe's message!!!! 3) See Joe's message!!!! 4) See Joe's message!!!! 5) I already have a LOVE life thank you! And I have a life too. Now why don't you GET A LIFE?! I HATE CHAIN LETTERS. Jeremy [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1993 19:10:30 -0500 (EST) From: Jacobredfield Subject: Chain letters On march 23rd Joe Turner wrote the following - "DO NOT SEND CHAIN LETTERS VIA THE INTERNET" L L LLLLLL LLLLLLL LLLLL L L LLLLLLL LL L L L L L L L L L L L L LL L L L L L LLLLLLL L L L L LLLLLLL LL L L L L L L L L L L L L L LL LL LL L L L L L L L L L L L LLLLLL L L LLLLL LLLLLLLL L LL the same thing happened to me - they should have laws against this!! -jAke [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Subject: Re: swimming in the seas of rave From: inhuman@mindvox.phantom.com (Inhuman) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 93 19:01:33 EST Yaaaay, Laura! Welcome back! :-) Michael | "I've begun to wonder if we wouldn't (inhuman@mindvox.phantom.com) | also regard spelunkers as desperate | criminals if AT&T owned all the ...trance form...trance send... | caves." --John Perry Barlow [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 23 Mar 1993 19:14:18 -0500 (EST) From: AI3264%ALBNYVMS.bitnet@UACSC2.ALBANY.EDU Subject: Vernal Equinox... To Todd and everyone else.....As of now (Tues night) the cause of death of the young lady at Vernal Equinox has only been stated as "heart failure". It seems to me that if she did die of a drug overdose the family would not want it said, I mean if your daughter of a mere 19 years suddenly died you would want her to have died with dignity- and such is the case here- the family is saying that their daughter was "a clean cut girl that would never use drugs". Be that true or not the family probably will stick with this and not let anything out to the presses. So as I see it we will never really know what happened to her, if it was drugs or just a freak accident of sorts...or will the cops and their investigation be allowed to state the explicit cause of death...regardless this incident like any incident causes HYPE... in this case it could be potentially damaging to the rave scene, that is if she died a drug related death, if they never say anything more than they have about it it will just draw attention and yet more negative views/opinions/rumors and the like about the rave scene.......so nobody really knows the real story, even those that were at the rave have different stories of what might have happened or what they saw... will we ever know?........ ".....the power of perception" -ToNy_ [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1993 19:33:42 -0500 (EST) From: Alan Michael Parry Subject: Re: Vernal Equinox... I know that this information is highly questionable, but there was a post on alt.rave from a person who attended the rave and stated that she was Xing and her body was smeared in VapoRub. I really do hope that this isn't the case.....just restating what i read. --Fluid [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Subject: just some friendly flaming... Date: Tue, 23 Mar 93 19:54:06 EST From: SHALAKO (technokachina) Where _Laura_'s moebius streets run cracked: >Once we got Overload's typical Loft breakbeat out of the way, oh, please... careful, breakbeatfanatiks are listening... lovE...pEAcE...rAvE! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ .never.stop.dancing.loving.thinking.sharing.hugging.smiling.listening.raving. S H A L A K O < < t e c h n o k a c h i n a > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ .ambient.trance.hard-trance.loveliness-jungle-tribal.rudest-raw-breaks. .mindfuck-acieeed.wicked-roots-spiritual-raggamuffin.progressive-house. .music for the mind, body, and soul, brothers and sisters. sscoen@athena.mit.edu shannon coen 617.225.8317 410 memorial drive cambridge, ma. 02139 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Subject: Re: Disappointed with Analogue Bubblebath 3 Date: Tue, 23 Mar 93 20:02:56 EST From: SHALAKO (technokachina) i picked up analog bubblebath vol.3 on vinyl last month. how much did you pay for it on cd? i payed almost $10 for it on vinyl, and very happy with it. as with most vinyl that is bought for the purpose of djing with, a record might have 4-6 tracks on it, and you listen to them all over and over until you narrow it down to one really good track, and that will be the only one you'll spin off of that record, ever. i narrowed it down to two tracks on the AFX e.p. that i _really_ like, so i'm pretty satisfied with my purchase... "everybody wants to be a dj..." -breakbeat song of the day- *i'm looking for a pair of used turntables and a mixer, any sellers? *...thanx u munch... lovE...pEAcE...rAvE! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ .never.stop.dancing.loving.thinking.sharing.hugging.smiling.listening.raving. S H A L A K O < < t e c h n o k a c h i n a > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ .ambient.trance.hard-trance.loveliness-jungle-tribal.rudest-raw-breaks. .mindfuck-acieeed.wicked-roots-spiritual-raggamuffin.progressive-house. .music for the mind, body, and soul, brothers and sisters. sscoen@athena.mit.edu shannon coen 617.225.8317 410 memorial drive cambridge, ma. 02139 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 23 Mar 93 19:32:50 GMT-0500 From: jmeacham@ants.edu (James Meacham) Subject: alt.rave, michael meacham responds >I would like to invite michael meacham to dispel a few rumors that >are floating around...such as onionz, nrg, and aphex twin not >playing future... >also how will (i have heard estimates anywhere from 5000-15000) all >buy there tickets from music now...? >also what kinda house vibe is it when dj's and stuff are put on the >flyers with out asking (is this true, did you ask?) >**also if you could repost your response to dcraves@american.edu and >ne-raves@g >nu.ai.mit.edu i am sure they would love to know the truth too... S. Michael Meacham Michael Meacham speaks out Most of you already know about the Future Rave in April. Last year we had some problems with our investors. They left that morning without paying anyone. That left me having to deal with a lot of angry people. I did the best thing that I could do: I paid some people with my own money. I must have paid out over $5,000 dollars out of my own pocket to people that the investors owed the money to. Why? Because I have spent 9 years DJing and building up a good reputation for myself. I never took another DJ's job and I never screwed anybody to get ahead. It's is not easy to organize such a big event without making somebody not like what you are doing. As far as N.R.G. and Aphex Twin are concerned, I have legal contracts with Impact Management (England) that say that they will be performing at Back To The Future on April 3,1993. We even paid for them in advance (does anyone know how much it cost to fly 8 people from England?). DJ Onionz was my fault. I did ask him to play but I did not get him the contract in time . Onionz did not feel that he wanted play to such a bigevent. I guess it's not underground enough. Tickets will be sold at Musicnow and at the park where we are doing our rave. I will post full details and directions next week. If anyone doubts my sincerity then why would I be giving a discount for a canned good item to help benefit AIDS victims and the homeless? And I am also giving money to Wildlife Preservation Fund. Also our flyers were printed on recycled paper ( I hope all this doesn't sound too self-rightous) We think that the ticket price is reasonable, just look at the line up. I've always been sincere, and those that know me can attest to my integrity. I'm always available to talk to people about my venture, since I beleive that the unity of raves are what make them better than just another festival concert. My phone number is 202-398-1623, and my e-mail address is techno016@aol.com, in the event that anyone has any questions or concerns about Back to the Future. Peace. Michael Meacham (techno016@aol.com) [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 23 Mar 1993 21:35:54 -0400 (EDT) From: an excursion through technospace Subject: chain letter b-b-b-bu--but.. it's BAD LUCK to break a chain letter! ;) >>taylor.x0x [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Subject: Re: Disappointed with Analogue Bubblebath 3 From: Rob H Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1993 21:49:31 -0500 I paid $22 (Canadian) + tax -- works out to around $26 -- for the CD. It contains 13 tracks, I believe, a few of which are pretty bad... You're right, there are a couple of tracks which are quite good, but for the price I paid I don't think it was worth it. Rob rhwang@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1993 18:52:38 -0800 From: Fred Heutte Subject: Re: Chain letters Gee, now we can clog up the net with complaints about chain letters that clog up the net. The original was a one-off joke. I don't mind it and got a few laughs. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1993 21:50:32 +0500 (EST) From: Greg Beckham Subject: party in greensboro, NC a group called a book called galanta are having a party in greensboro NC april 10th.... ive seen the space they plan to use and it is VERY nice... i talked to one of the members and they said that it was a possibility that scott henry and onionz would be there [nothing definite, just possiblities] and they had talked to dj apple pie and would like to get him to come down.... i went to their last party and it was great- no hype, no bullshit, just good music, and good people... it wont cost all that much, and theyre not out to make money, just have a good party.... ill post more definite information about dj's, info #'s, and directions later... but for now, here's the roundup of info: April 10th, Greensboro, NC, Flashlight Ball [byols- bring yer own light show:)] tell your friends about it, try to make it if you can, but this will be a very vibey party... peace out! --------------------------------------------------------------------------- - greg beckham - - - internet: gregbec@gibbs.oit.unc.edu - - - phone : 919-914-4702 - rave on! - - snail : 7 teague hall - - - unc-chapel hill - - - chapel hill, nc 27514 - - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 24 Mar 93 00:09:21 EST From: "Douglas B. Zimmerman" Subject: Rave-o-matic This is the Rave-o-matic for the week of Wed. March 24, 1993 thanks for those with the knowledge enjoy.. doug ))))) a b00mingg baSS for a l0vingg race ((((( dz5401a@american.edu ========================================================================== NE-RAVES CALENDAR __________________________________________________________________________ UPCOMING RAVES: __________________________________________________________________________ Friday, March 26 WASHINGTON D.C. (202) 885 - 7135 SUNSHINE SUNSHINE A Perpetual Dawning Over the District < - - - - - - DJs: - - - - - - > DJ Thirteen (NJ) DJ Plastech (SF) DJ Slip (Jersey) DJ Chuck (DC-AU) DJ +8 (U. of MD) DJ Pulse (Virginia) DJ Havoc (Virginia) DJ Donnie (MD) DJ Doughs (heh heh heh) no smoking - no alcohol - no attitude for those who are down with the real scene not the money, the look, the escape Gianni Lounge, This Microrave Presented by Smart Bar The American Univ. CLUELESS by Inhuman CRAFTSMAN & Bullwinkle Take the elevator near dcraves@american.edu the security office in ne-raves@gnu.ai.mit.edu Virtual Environment Butler Pavilion to the WVAU by Rob C. Driving to Sunshine: FROM NE OF WASHINGTON (NYC, Philli, Balt): Follow Interstate 95 Sourth to Interstate 495 (Capital Beltway): take I-495 west toward Silver Spring. See "From I-495" below FROM SOUTH OR WEST OF WASHINGTON (Norfolk, richmond, Charlottesville): Follow I-95 north or I-66 east to I-495, the CapitalBeltway. See"from I-495" below FROM NORTHWEST OF WASHINGTON (W. Penn, W Maryland): Follow I-270 South. Where I-270 divides, follow the right-hand branch toward northern Virginia (NOT toward Washington). Merge with I-495, and soon after take exit 39, River Road. See "from I-495" below FROM I-495 (Capital Beltway): Take exit 39 and carefully follow the signs for River Road (Maryland route 190) south toward Washington. Continue south on River Road to the fifth traffic light. Turn right onto Goldsboro Road (Maryland route 614). At the first traffic light, turn left onto Massachusetts Avenue (Maryland route 396). Continue on Massachusetts Avenue past the first trafic circle (Westmoreland Circle) Continue about one more mile. About a half block before the second traffic circle will be a stoplight, and the main campus for American U. will be on your right. At that light take a right, continue to drive straight onto the campus. you will drive under a building. That building is Butler Pavilion in which the rave will be held. After you drive under the building bear right and there will be a parking garage. After 6pm on Friday the parking is free in there. Park on the fourth (green) level. Take one of the doors inside. American University is located on the corner of Massachusetts And Nebraska Avenues. for help or info write to either doug (dz5401a@american.edu) or susie k. (sk2479a@american.edu) ____________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, March 27 NEWBURGH, NY (914) 565 - 5370 GREEN EGGS AND HAM DJs Newburgh, NY is about 1 1/2 hours Scott Henry (D.C.) North of New York City OnionZ (L.I.) Jason Jinx (NASA) Tickets: $15 dollars in advance James Christian (N.Y.C.) $18 dollars at the door On-E (Nasa) only a certain # of tickets printed. Reese (Primal) buy in advance. Door subject to ticket Overload (Flipside) sales. A portion of your ticket will be Rob Gee (N.J.) donated to With God's love we deliver," Matt Lawrence (Newburg) a program helping those who have AIDS and are bed ridden. bowl saking all night - bring pads - RI: tim o'keefe(508)226-2716 lunasea (401)272-LUNA BOSTON: "the other side" (617) 536- 9477 N.J.: dave s. (908) 972-8646 james t. (908) 777-7392 anthony boy (201) 288-7019 anthony danio (908) 972-2313 kristian s. (201) 748-0083 groove thing (201) 564-8868 N.Y.C: allan sanctuary (212) 696-8938 vinyl mania 9212) 463-7408 house (212) 677-7379 mike d. (212) 995-1574 joe exlax (212) 517-7072 STATEN ISLAND: rob rob (718) 876-7233 or 399-5050 BALTIMORE: scott henry (301) 474-4235 PHILLY: applejack & under (215) 602-2226 jenna (215) 757-0646 L.I: trepp (516) 758-8790 D.C. musicnow (202) 638-3272 michael c. (202) 638-5937 BROOKLYN: kyra (718) 232-7238 NEWBURG: hudson valley skate park john mennrich (914) 565-5370 _____________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, March 27 PAWTUCKET, RI (401) 454 - 6060 DUNE ............and there the Ancient Ones gathered upon the Sands. D U N E March 27, 1993 10.00 PM until Sunrise PHAT after party until 2.00 PM! Transport your highest self to an alternate reality of Joy & Celebration! Experience the Ecstacy of Techno-Mesmerism with 15,000 watts of Primal Beating Bass. Intelligent Lighting, Psycho-Tropic Visuals, Chill Spaces VIBRATORY NAVIGATORS: DUTCH San Francisco OnionZ New York MgEE London OSHEEN Providence Dale Charles San Diego RIO New York AND THE POSSE DOIN' THE DO... IN TRIBAL SONIC RESONANCE WE GROW AND UNITE IN LOVE! Performing love at After Party: GRACE $3 discount if you bring a can of food for the homeless Rhode Island/Mass. Information & Inquiries 401-454-6060 Location -> 3/22 Connecticut Bus Info 203-627-5686 Philadelphia Bus Info 215-292-4666 The Horizion Group No Alcohol-R.O.A.R- No Misconduct-Strict Door Procedures-Clean Toilets-Coat Check - First Aid-Peachy Puffs-Candy Suprises ______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, March 27 BALTIMORE, MD (410) 523 - 1882 TRIPOTRONIC SENSORY OVERLOAD Moder Music presents: T R I P O T R O N I C S E N S O R Y O V E R L O A D march 27, 1993 10pm till 10 am Sensory overload arena 1 the Aphex Twin Scott Henry richard james, UK fever, citrus club Jeff Mills DJ Sun underground resistance Ultraworld, reptilian James Christian Live performance by Glitch storm rave, NYC cuts off their new 12" "trauma on industrial strength" Sensory overload arena 2 experience a landscape of sound, smell, vision, & touch designed to overload your sensory preceptions amazing 360 degree visiul immersion aroma therapy a masseuse on duty Overload DJ's: Mindphuq LG Bobble Wash Who Entity Gyrobix 3-d virtual reality Jolt Cola tickets are $15 and available at bus trip & out of state info modern music (Balt) 410-523-1882 MusicNow (DC) 202-638-3272 Sound of market 2 Philly 215-602-2289 Planet x,NY 908-249-0567 vinyl mania, NY 212-463-7120 NO TICKETS AT THE DOOR turbozen, pa 412-621-7759 for a better vibe only 2500 tickets will be available ______________________________________________________________________________ Saturdau, March 27 LONG ISLAND, NY (516) 547 - 6129 D.N.A. SIMON SAYZ & the Essence of Life Gereration bring you... D.N.A. Saturday, March 27, 1993 11pm to 8 am featuring frankie for up to date info BONES 516.547.6129 (storm rave, groove) only 999 tickets will be sold for MICRO this event / purchase tickets early (essence, caffeine) ALL tickets GUY DMC $12 each (dmc records) ONIONZ (essence, caffeine) promo DEBO eddie van raven*kort -n- gregg*x3 / o-tomic (mindwarp boston) dennis the menace*mello mello*simon sayz TRANCE (caffeine) credits RIDE jeff hansen*toast*rad brad*vinylmania (new jersey) dj records, groove records, caffeine||| tickets available at: long island * dj records * 516.667.1112 nyc * vinylmania * 212.463.7129 brooklyn * groove records * 718.714.5232 ______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, March 27 POUGHKEEPSIE, NY (914) 255 - 8517 NEBULA III N E B U L A I I I Featuring DJs: Lenny Dee (Industrial Strength) Super DJ Dimitry (Deee-Lite) Mr. Kleen (NASA/Sputnik) On E (NASA) Scott Richmond (Sputnik/WKVR/WDST) Debo (Axis/Boston) Dave Trance (Caffeine/LI) Overload (Blue/Maine) Troposphere (NASA/Vinylmania) Desi (Rockland/Vitamin) Spy (Disintergrator/DC) Lil Sprout (Vitamin/Nebula II) * plus special guest * $8 In Advance $10 Day Of 27 March 1993 Tickets:NYC - Vinylmania (212) 463-7120 New Paltz (and Woodstock) - Jack's Rhythms (914) 949-3103 Poughkeepsie - Berties (914) 452-2380 (Fri. Nights Only) Specific Pacific (White Plains Galeria) (914) 949-3103 Bus Info: NYC - Satellite Productions (212) 465-3299 NJ - Scooter (201) 927-2292 Albany - Dave Space (518) 272-RAVE Boston - Debo (617) 266-1987 Rockland/Westchester - (914) 255-8517 Info Lines: NYC - Satellite Productions (212) 465-3299 Albany - Dave Space (518) 272-RAVE Poughkeepsie (General Info + Directions) - (914) 255-8517 * Brought to you by Up North Productions in conjunction with Satellite Productions. _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday April 2 PITTSBURG, PA MUTATION Recycled Productions presents Mutation Carnegie Mellon University Highlander/ Resnik Hall April 2 10 pm-4am DJs: Techno Terrorists (CMU) dieselBoy (PITT/METROPOL/BOMB) Simon (CMU) Dr. Seuss (BOMB) $5 Superchill, Lunatik's Chill Out Room Visuals by Tranceportation 2 Rooms, 2 Stories, 2 Phat lasers by STORCH 3 Watt Lasers VOLATILE Ravegear Master Blaster(tm) Sound System 12x12 PROJECTIONS Candee no alcohol no attitude stoopid drinks ______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 3 BURLINGTON, VT (617) 629 - 0777 REVERSE (802) 656 - 6782 re'verse\ri-'vers\ adj 1: opposite to a previous or normal condition 2: a change in one's state of mind from average to euphoirc... Dante evolution, n.y. DALE CHARLES evar, san diego k.c. and the sunshine gang OVERLOAD MAYHEM rise, boston KAMATE "the underground" JASON MOUSE boston underground A PLACE CALLED BLISS from toronto smartbar by PUNCH presale tickets... $11--day of...$13 AVAILABLE AT: the other side cafe'--boston...617-536-9477 boston beat--boston...617-561-4790 zootz--portland...207-773-8187 pure bob--burlington...802-658-2652 info. and busing hotline...617-629-0777 or 802-656-6782 $1 of each ticket will go towards the United Way SPECIAL THANKS TO::: chemistry, mike r., the commune, never neverland, rachel-bo-bachel, k.c. and the sunshine gang, rise, united techno, fred strong, debo, evolution, george from brooklyn, and etc. SOMEWHERE in the mountains presented by... TEMPEST PRODUCTIONS ______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 3 WASHINGTON D.C. (202) 331 - 4465 BACK TO THE FUTURE M2 Productions wants to take you... BACK TO THE F U T U R E Saturday - April 3, 1993 festivities start @ 9pm dj's Scott Henry - fever, balt Frankie Bones - storm, ny Michael Mecham - future, flinstone Lennie Dee - industrial strength Keoki - disco 200, ny Dave Trance - caffeine, li Strobe - euphoria, pa On-E - liquid sky, ny Sean McIlvain - flinstone, dc Jimmy Crash - storm, ny Ed Bailey - tracks w/afterhours Mr. Kleen - n.a.s.a., ny Lieven DeGeyndt - musicnow, ny Karl Matthews - matrix, dc Dave Wave - bar, ct Chris Herr - dc Debo - boston, ma Performing Live! N.R.G. with their first & only U.S. appearance "I need your loving" APHEX TWIN - R.S. Records Lights by New York's own SCOTTO Lighting design by Conceptions SMART BAR by NUTRIENT CAFE & Lewis Aronoft To Trip Your Senses MINDMACHINES The Largest Sound, Lights & Video ever 16 & Over assembled on the East Coast!!! "Stop your Heart Bass" by CONCEPTIONS Brought to you by... Mecham & McIlvain sponsored by Yogi Inc. Special Thanks to: Brian Kane, Z&R Fishman, Musicnow, A&A Graphics Colin Davies, Deanna, John Kadish, Autobahn Records, the staff and dj's from Future '92, Moby, Chris Cleen, Bobbie West & Scott Henry ay Yogi Inc. promotion by: Dennis the Mennis Eddie Van Raven, Rob Rave Mello Mello - blue crew Go Go & Daisy $16 tickets sold at Musicnow ONLY $18 at the door $1 off w/ a canned good items to benefit the AIDS food bank and the homeless portion of the proceeds will go to Wildlife Preservations Bus Trip and Rave info: Turbozen - pittsburgh 412.621.7759 Joint Ventures - new york - 212.631.1065 Applejack - philli - 215.602.2226 US Rave Team - philli - 412.373.6863 Concept Records - boston - 617.556.5325 Musicnow - DC - 202.638.3272 Mello Mello - new york - 212.631.4290 For All Info Call 202.331.4465 ______________________________________________________________________________ Fri-Sat, April 9-10 WASHINGTON D.C. (202) 466-1692 MEGA RAVE 93 (202) 296-9760 Landing Status: destination: Washington D.C. FRi. 4-9-93 time:10pm-9am SAT. 4-10-93 time:10pm-Dawn PURVEYOURS OF HARDCORE... Scott Henry (Citrusclub/Fever) Lieven DeGeyndt (MusicNow) Dj U (Thermonuclear DC) Dj Who (Atomic Vibe Balt) Dj Wash (Atomic Vibe Balt.) Tarzan (Thermonuclear DC) Lert (Balt) Cyberpsychadelic Sketti (3rd period) Stimulation: INDUSTRIAL STRENGTH Performance Art, ROCKET FUELS: Rave Poets, Jolt-Smartbar intelligent Visual Milleau, Elektrik KoolAid Buzz Gum Bass in Yo Face!! Landing fee: $12 w/flyer $15 w/out -thermonuclear productions- smashing neutrons at a warehouse near you! (thermonuclear hotline) 202.466.1692 202.296.9760 Phuthur Rave information MusicNow 202-638-3272 modern music 410-523-1882 ______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 17 PORTLAND, ME (207) 773 - 6979 GRIN K.C. and the Sunrise Gang, together with Pandemonium, brought you Crusade, Sky High and Deep -- Now let us make you GRIN Saturday, April 17, Portland, ME Fully legal warehouse space overlooking the Atlantic With special guests: Frankie Bones (Storm/Brooklyn) Tin Tin (Energy/U.K.) Overload (Deep/Sky High/Portland) Dante (Evolution/N.Y.) Dale Charles, Evar (San Diego) M-gee (Rise/Primary/London) PLUS OTHERS TO COME For more info call (207)773-6979 Full-color flyers available in March woth N.Y., Boston, R.I. & N.H. bus info. Available through MelloMello, VinylMania, Planet X, Groove Records, Boston Beat, The Other Side Cafe, Lunacy, Rock Bottom Records & Bad Habits. OR, mail self-addressed envelope to GRIN, c/o ZOOTZ, 31 Forest Ave, Portland, ME 04101 _____________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 17 BALTIMORE, MD (410) 235 - 1131 EXPAND Stretch the boundaries of reality in an environment of freedom Free your mind and find inner peace. Sonic Soul invites you to... E X P A N D Saturday, April 17, 1993 10 pm until sunshine sun mindphuq wash ultraworld modern music atomic vibe jason jinx who bobble nasa atomic vibe sonic soul scott hardkiss scott henry san francisco fever / citrus a m b i e n t b l i s s pegas entity trip lg atomic vibe ultraworld modern music sonic soul $10 Tickets at Moderm Music 410.523.1882 Baltimore Tickets at MusicNow 202.638.3272 Washington D.C. Sonic Soul 410.235.1131 PURE BALTIMORE UNDERGROUND _____________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 24 BOSTON, MA (617) 629 - 0777 FIELDS OF JOY Presented by Never Neverland Productions We support B.U.S. Info coming soon: Boston (617) 629-0777 S.F.: (415) 979-LUV-O DJs: Scott Hardkiss Debo Onionz Tintin (from England) Jason Jinx (from NY) _____________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 24 BALTIMORE, MD (410) 563 - 7880 ULTRAWORLD 6 - TEMPLE OF MOTION RYDE DJ TRANCE DJ SUN New York Los Angeles Ultraworld ENTITY DANTE MAURE WASH Ultraworld Evolution Atomic Vibe FRANKIE HARTUNG Washington D.C. _____________________________________________________________________________ Earth Day PROVIDENCE, RI (401) 751 - 5695 EARTH DAY RAVE Earth Day Rave -- April 1993 Home Planet SAT Night Rehersals & Production join us Media Circus 401-751-5695 _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, May 1 LONG ISLAND, NY ESSENCE.. "the second coming" * mayday '93 ______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, May 8 BALTIMORE, MD (410) 523 - 1882 TRIPOTRONIC 7- MAY DAY FEST ______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, May 15 WASHINGTON D.C. (202) 298 - 9000 MARS Tonka presents: A Voyage to MARS ______________________________________________________________________________ Fri-Sun May 21-23 VERMONT ELEVATION elevation- a weekend long rave held in a ski resort may 21-23 in vermont (smugglers notch) 2 arena's- main area- on the mountainside confirmed dj's: onionz dante jason jinx wink a place called bliss james christian alx of london disco dan mayhem osheen jason (mouse) arena two- in a lodge- anyone who wants to spin can schedule for a time and go to it. tickets are $40 for the entire weekend $99 for the weekend including lodging and access to the pool, hot tubs, tennis, racketball, ect. $cheaper id you come after 8pm on Saturday (comment from camper) more dj's unconfirmed, but lets just say that san francisco djs are being considered. (good ones) _____________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, May 29 WASHINGTON D.C. (703) 971 - 4555 VIVID Catastrophic 93 Presents: VIVID The Rave continues in 93 _____________________________________________________________________________ Fri-Mon June 18-21 NEW YORK STATE 1 - 800 - 4RAVE - LINE RAVESTOCK _____________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, June 26 EAST COAST FROSTED RAVE (from Tarek Elnaccash, TWE5495@ACFcluster.NYU.EDU) prepare yourselves for.... F R O S T E D R A V E June 26 3000 ravers expected Suprise DJ list/live acts to be announced Location to be announced tickets will be $15 strictly advance sale only, Discount prices for members of NE-Raves, Mindcandy, and Fuzzy Logic are available Made for people who party by people who party. This is our rave! Members od NE-R/MC/FL can purchase tickets for $5 donations. These discount tickets will hwlp us cover start up costs and must be received by the end of May. The discount tickets are available only to the first 300 people who send for them. Ticket orders can be sent to me (Tarek Elnaccash 55e 10th st rm 1507 Ny,NY 10003) Flyers for this event/regular tickets will be available soon at record stores around (complete info will be listed soon) If you dont want to wait send your flyer request to: M I N D C A N D Y c/o Vitamin Love 111 Hackensack Plank Rd Wee. N.J. 07087 Anybody requesting the flyers will receive a free copy of the MINDCANDY rave newsletter (aprox. 20 pages) Peace to all Ravers FROSTED RAVE will be the first collaboration of the three Techno-Tribes. The unification of the REAL RAVERS. ____________________________________________________________________________ [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 24 Mar 1993 01:17:56 -0500 (EST) From: TOWER OF DUB Subject: ab3 i liked analogue bubblebath #3 because i found that the twin was mixing up different kinds of sounds and songs- which kept it interesting for me. i am personally fascinated by his techniques, the way he does basslines and his percussion... what is the word on his collected ambient works? what is the best aphex twin album out? manish [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 24 Mar 1993 02:06:25 -0400 (EDT) From: LSD IS THE BOMB Subject: Chain mail If all 250 or so of us duplicate the chain letter 20 times and send all 5000 copies back to the guy who sent it to NE-Raves in the first in the first place [B.R.Smyth me5010@ccub.wlv.ac.uk], does that count as not breaking the chain? 8) Tarek [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1993 02:25:41 -0500 From: Joe Turner Subject: Re: Chain letters Actually, it was not a "one-off joke". I've seen that same 'chain letter' at least a dozen times. I've seen others with even WORSE distributions. We do -not- need this sort of thing bouncing around. There are easily 20,000,000 users of the Internet and related gateways. If the letter is propogated to only five levels, that's already 3,200,000 peices of mail. If the size of the letter were around 5K, that's 16,384,000,000 bytes of mail zooming over the net. The combined sizes of the 3 or 4 responses don't even begin to get near the chain letter's size. It's your net, but you have it by privilege, not by right. Don't trash it. /joe -|-|-|-|-|-|/\-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|- Joe Turner < > cutter@cs.umb.edu \/ What's my mission now? [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 24 Mar 93 11:04:01 EST From: djm@bedford.progress.COM (Dave McMahon) Subject: Re: Rave-o-matic > From @AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU:DZ5401A@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU Wed Mar 24 01:11:54 1993 > ______________________________________________________________________________ > > Fri-Sun May 21-23 VERMONT > ELEVATION > > elevation- a weekend long rave > held in a ski resort may 21-23 > in vermont (smugglers notch) > > 2 arena's- main area- on the mountainside > confirmed dj's: > onionz dante jason jinx > wink a place called bliss james christian > alx of london disco dan mayhem > osheen jason (mouse) > According the Erik (one of the promoters), as of last Friday, DENARD has also been confirmed to spin at this. And that, my fellow acid/tribal junkies, means you HAVE to go!! dave. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 24 Mar 93 10:54 EST From: laura@usl.com Subject: Re: just some friendly flaming... Shannon wrote: >Where _Laura_'s moebius streets run cracked: > >>Once we got Overload's typical Loft breakbeat out of the way, > >oh, please... > >careful, breakbeatfanatiks are listening... SO WHAT? I have every right to dislike breakbeat. I like Shawn (Overload), he is a nice guy and plays some juicy stuff from time to time, but I'm really bored of the breakbeat/prog. house thing. THIS IS JUST MY OPINION. The type of music I like best is much harder than anything I heard at the Loft last Friday. In fact, the hardest song they played at the Loft on Friday was "Hardfloor Accsperience" [on Harthouse UK, don't remember the artists' name though --it's the one that sounds like it could be by Sven Vath but isn't]. The stuff I buy/spin is all harder than this. Get a grip, it's just a matter of personal taste. *DYING* for the next STORM rave . . . HARDCORE, YOU KNOW THE SCORE! Peace . . . it means getting along in spite of differences of opinions, Laura [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 24 Mar 1993 11:07:57 -0400 (EDT) From: an excursion through technospace Subject: B A D G E S ! ! ok folks... here it is...here they are... the ne-raves badges (v2.0)! they look VERY different from the first batch...why? i don't know.. 'cos i wanted them to...and i had fun designing them. here's what they look like: front: the "vr-guy" that is on the ne-raves stickers (tho, a little more grey scaled) is in a box. above it and below it are black boxes. in the black box above is white text that says "reach out and connect"... the box below says "NE-RAVES" below "ne-raves" is the address. that's the front. it looks pretty neat. i wish i could draw it here...but.. the back: the back is UP TO YOU! in addition to your name and address you can send me a few sentences or whatever of anything else you want printed...like, the kind of stuff in your signatures, plans.. whatever... street addresses... hobbies.. favorite kindsa techno...ANYTHING! all that infor will be on the back, in a box, on top of a weird texture (created in texture synth). so, here's what i need from everyone who wants one: email me: color preference for front of badge: fluorescent pink or white (the backs are white) note: there is NO hole for diff grating or anything... anything you want written on the back: prefferably, at least, your net address, name and net name.. and then, anything else you want. and then... you must MAIL me, $3 along with your street address, so i can make this thing and send it to ya. here's my address: taylor deupree 284 mott st. #3K ny, ny 10012 i can make badges for every 9 orders that i get...(cheaper in quantity) anyone who has already sent me mail about badges... SEND IT AGAIN. is that it? i hope i didn't leave out any questions... enjoy! >>taylor.x0x ps: i will let you know if there happens to NOT be enough room for everything you may want written on the back.. if not, then i'll email you and you can change it... but, you know the size of the badges roughly (tho, these are a little bigger than the first ones)..and, with 9 point text.. you can imagine how much room there is... [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Subject: music Date: Wed, 24 Mar 93 11:31:19 EST From: SHALAKO (technokachina) hardfloor is the artist, acsperiance is the track. one of my favorite tracks. i spin this one for myself for breakfast, lunch and dinner. acieeeeeeeeeeeeed! *i'm looking for a pair of used 1200's and a mixer, any sellers? *...thanx u munch... lovE...pEAcE...rAvE! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ .never.stop.dancing.loving.thinking.sharing.hugging.smiling.listening.raving. S H A L A K O < < t e c h n o k a c h i n a > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ sscoen@athena.mit.edu shannon coen 617.225.8317 410 memorial drive cambridge, ma. 02139 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 24 Mar 93 11:56:26 -0500 From: Duncan Charles Haberly Subject: Re: Rave-o-matic Sorry to all for not getting my act in gear and getting this announcement to Doug on time: Saturday, March 27 10p.m.-4a.m. VITAMIN C DJ's: DeCay (Cyber) Todd Krulak (Catastrophic-DC) Dave Javate (MusicNow-DC) Oaf (Cyber) Terabyte (Cyber) Lighting: 1 laser emulator, 6 intellabeams, dataflashes, baby stars, procupines, etc. Main Room with chillout room upstairs with computer animation videos and fun junk to play with SmartBar by CLARK KENT $5 at Plan 9 Records in C'ville and $7 at door Vitamin C is a moving club that I will be doing at various spots between Krusty's warehouse gigs and other warehouse gigs in central Virginia area that I am working on. We have lots of good lighting stuff, plenty of sound and a fairly altruistic set of backers, so you can expect to get what has been billed at any CYBER event! If you are in the VA/DC/MD area, please consider attending Vitamin C this weekend because it is these club events that help us put on Krusty's and any other warehouse r**** in the future! Vitamin C is at TRAX on Main St. in Charlottesville March 27 at The Floodzone in Richmond April 9 and at Live Arts in C'ville April 10 KRUSTY'S II: ELECTRIC BOOGALOO is April 17 at the Splathouse again. I will post all info about it next week. Thanks to all, Duncan [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 24 Mar 93 12:07:00 EST From: "John Speakman" Subject: re: r-o-m Hiya! There will be buses to Green Eggs & Ham from NYC. They will go from Global grooves (w 19th St and the W side hwy). Details of both - 212 969 8938. John [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: fuzzbox@world.std.com (U.F.Orb) Subject: Where'z Everybody Gonna Be? Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1993 12:31:21 -0500 (EST) So, we got 4 or so raves going on this Saturday night, but which one is gonna be *THE ONE*? I'm kinda partial to DUNE, but only because it's gonna be the closest one to me, but if others are gonna be better.... -- Jason Bilsky- fuzzbox@world.std.com **AnnoyingBandNameSigAlert!** CrimsOrBandOfSusanSigueSigueSputniKLFionAsiArtOfNoisE.G.DailYello DaisyChainsaWettoNineInchNailSystemSeveNedsAtomicDustbiNewOrder MoodswingSt.EtiennEnigmAdamskInSoConcreteBlondEnOrbital ToriAmoSmithereenSystemSeveNirvana ...Oh, and Fuzzbox..... [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 24 Mar 93 12:46 EST From: laura@usl.com Subject: Hey Chris! Some record reviews! Some hardcore ramblings . . . I've done some shopping down at Planet X in New Brunswick, NJ, lately, trying to build up my techno vinyl collection. Planet X has a good selection and I always get good service, so if you're ever in the area you should check them out. They do mail order, too, you can call them at (908) - 249 - 0304. Tell them you're a friend of Ed's and Laura's, we could use the brownie points. In the store, they charge $9 for imports and $6 for domestics. ANYWAY, I'm going to ramble on a bit about what I've bought. I don't have the records in front of me because I'm at work, so I wouldn't say these were actually reviews per se, just sort of a conversational description. Since I'm doing this all from memory I might get some titles or other information wrong, please forgive me. Also, I'm only reviewing the stuff I bought that really stood out in my mind, so most of these reviews will be positive. Lenny Dee has a new EP out, it's on Rising High and is called something like "White Phantom". It was not released under the name Lenny Dee, but rather says "all tracks written and produced by Lenny Dee" in small letters on the label. The last Lenny Dee "solo" stuff I'd heard was the Lenny Dee EP that came out on Industrial Strength last summer. This was the EP with "Microdot" and "Bug Spray" on it. Well, "Phantom" is much harder, more like the stuff Lenny spins. One track, "Slime," has this weird discordant buzzy analogue noise that bops along with an almost funk beat. There are two mixes of the title track, and they feature that signature "909-kick-drum-through-a-cracked-bass-bin-reverberating-in-a-warehouse-in- Brooklyn" sound. Unfortunately, the new EP is a bit on the generic side. The emblem "Gabbers United Against Racism and Fascism" adorns the front of the first issue from a new (Dutch?) hardcore label, called Mok. I picked up Mok 1, which features "The Point" by Vitamin and also "Cosmic Trash." "The Point" is recognizable by a male voice going "point, point point point, point, point point, get to the point" over a synth buzz that sounds like one of Laurie Anderson's electic violin noises but sped up and even buzzier. "Cosmic Trash" appeared recently on that techno show Tim Hasselet has in Boston -- it's the one you played me on the way to the Loft last Friday, Dave -- fast, loud and crazy with a female voice saying something that sounds like "it's very, it's very". She's probably speaking in Dutch, though. Describing hardcore records is not easy . . . :-) I'd definately recommend buying this, if for no other reason than to get "Cosmic Trash." Note: this "Cosmic Trash" is not to be confused with the white label "Cosmic Trash" released about 4 months ago. I've found an answer to that obnoxious Rotterdam record that goes "no women allowed:" the Belgian project Sleepwalker (also known as Edwards & Armani, Dr. Froud, and a few other names) has a new track out called "I Have A ...". Well, the female vocalist on the track doesn't leave out the elipses points: she speaks lustfully of someone's, erm, "equipment." Let's just quote her in saying "it's big and it's very very hard." Get the picture? Actually, these vocals are rather gimmicky, and are laid over an otherwise very good hardcore background. Not as hard as the tracks I've described above, but still in there. The other two tracks on this EP are great, too, albiet more trancy. This is a "good buy" slab o' vinyl, too. The new-ish German label, Time Unlimited (I think that's what it's called), is putting out some good hard trance. I picked up an EP called "Roughage" that is just grand. One track is remixed by Lenny Dee, but unfortunately is again a bit generic. Is Lenny suffering from artistic ennui? Did he expend his energy quota producing last year's amazing Disintegrator EP? Does he just miss the Storm raves [ :-) ] ? What's the deal? The track *after* the Lenny Dee remix is wonderful: it starts out ambient, builds through some trancy stuff, and then goes to very hard trance. The flip side contains more hard trance (on or above Hardfloor's "Accsperience" level). Another good buy. Oh yeah, I just realized where Lenny Dee's energy went: he and Jennifer Williams are launching a new label, Industrial Strength Trance. I managed to stumble across a white label of IST 001. I don't know who's on it or what it's called, but darn is it good. And this isn't really hard trance, either. Whoever wrote it has a good sense of humor, in my opinion. I don't want to spoil the sonic suprise, but if you can find it get it, okay? Especially if you belong to the group of happy trance fans that splooge whenever a certain well-known track gets played. :-) The cover of the "Hairspray" 12" is a cartoon of two Dutch guys. I don't know what they're saying to each other, so I've missed the joke. I hope it isn't something offensive. Anyway, the A side track, "Matje" starts out with what could be the local football (soccer) team chanting "Matje, Matje" over what sounds like a blow dryer. Once you get past that you get to a classic happy pounding hardcore sound. This is not evil or mind bending, just your basic slamming stuff. I don't know if I'd buy this again, though, the B side is not so hot. The Critical Mass EP is *amazing*. If you're in to speed-metal evil hardcore this is for *you*. My favorites on this are "Severe Trauma" and "Psychotic Break." Buy it. Buy it NOW. t * h * i * s * w * i * l * l * h * u * r * t * y * o * u . Human Resource is back with a new 12", called something like "Beyond the Edge." It's got the original version, plus mixes by Joey Beltram and also by Speedy J. The Beltram and Speedy J mixes are suprizingly trancy, very much different from the original version which is fast and dark and is full of samples that sound like they could be from that loser of a movie, _The Lawnmower Man_. This is another good buy. Well, I bought more but I sure have written a lot . . . maybe some other time. Laura [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1993 13:04:31 -0500 (EST) From: mike perkowitz Subject: Re: 808/MBM On Thu, 18 Mar 1993, Jeremy Grainger wrote: > Rumor heard on radio today; > > 808 State Meat Beat Manifesto and Supreme Love Gods > Middle East Downstairs, Cambridge MA > April14 or 15? probably april 15 - they're supposed to be in providence on the 14th. mike [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 24 Mar 93 13:07:16 EST From: djm@bedford.progress.COM (Dave McMahon) Subject: Re: Where'z Everybody Gonna Be? > From fuzzbox@world.std.com Wed Mar 24 12:47:12 1993 > I'm kinda partial to DUNE, but only because it's gonna be the closest > one to me, but if others are gonna be better.... Me too. But I'd like to make it to Nebula or D.N.A. Anybody have any idea how long it would take to get to either one or both of those locations from Boston? If it's like 4 or less hours, I might just make the trek. I'd sure like to see Micro or Lenny D again! :) :) :) dave. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1993 13:13:15 -0500 (EST) From: mike perkowitz Subject: Re: techmaster PEB ? On Thu, 18 Mar 1993, Golden Boy wrote: > On Thu, 18 Mar 1993 16:36:17 -0500 (ES, mike perkowitz wrote: > > >anyone heard/heard of the cd techmaster PEB - bass computer? what do you > >think of it? > > I have the CD...it'z pretty funky...not really dance music...some halfway > decent trancy type stuff...sorta like hip hop techno...serious serious > bass !!! when I had the CD player and 2 300w 15" pylez put into my car they > said that if I played that CD with too much bass...my speakers would last > about 3dayz...they weren't joking :)...the CD even has a warning label on > the cover that warns of possible damage to speakers...it isn't your > "typical" type of techno...but I'm an ecclectic... thanks for recommending it, golden boy. i got it and am very glad i did. i recommend it... lots of wikkid bass (eight of the seventeen trax on the cd have "bass" in the title, and one has "boom"), some pieces are majorly sampladelic (M/A/R/R/S, technotronic, things i know but can't remember, stuff i've heard in new order remixes, etc etc), and there are some to chill to. if you like b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-BASS how low can you go? check it out. mike [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: "Golden Boy" Date: Wed, 24 Mar 93 13:11:19 CST Subject: Forwarded message... ----- Forwarded message begins here ----- From: mike perkowitz Wed, 24 Mar 1993 13:02:52 -0500 (ES To: deb9@nextsun.INS.CWRU.Edu Subject: Re: techmaster PEB ? On Thu, 18 Mar 1993, Golden Boy wrote: > On Thu, 18 Mar 1993 16:36:17 -0500 (ES, mike perkowitz wrote: > > >anyone heard/heard of the cd techmaster PEB - bass computer? what do you > >think of it? > > I have the CD...it'z pretty funky...not really dance music...some halfway > decent trancy type stuff...sorta like hip hop techno...serious serious > bass !!! when I had the CD player and 2 300w 15" pylez put into my car they > said that if I played that CD with too much bass...my speakers would last > about 3dayz...they weren't joking :)...the CD even has a warning label on > the cover that warns of possible damage to speakers...it isn't your > "typical" type of techno...but I'm an ecclectic... thanks for recommending it, golden boy. i got it and am very glad i did. i recommend it... lots of wikkid bass (eight of the seventeen trax on the cd have "bass" in the title, and one has "boom"), some pieces are majorly sampladelic (M/A/R/R/S, technotronic, things i know but can't remember, stuff i've heard in new order remixes, etc etc), and there are some to chill to. if you like b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-BASS how low can you go? check it out. mike ------ Forwarded message ends here ------ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ <> deb9@pop.cwru.edu "Elvis has left the building...permanently" [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 24 Mar 1993 14:40:38 -0400 (EDT) From: JASCHOENLY@vaxsar.vassar.edu Subject: Nebula 3 dave wrote: Subject: 808 State/MBM/Sup Love Gods FYI: Yes, these bands are playing on Thursday, April 15, 1993 at the Middle East Cafe (downstairs, I assume) in Cambridge, MA. [I'll definitely be there... don't know how much are tickets, though. I will post times when I find that out too.] 808 State and Supreme Love Gods are also playing at the WFNX thingy down on Lansdowne Street that same week. I don't recall which day, though. I think it might be on Wednesday. CaRoLyN [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: ldaly@acs.bu.edu (Liza Daly) Subject: 808 State/MBM/Sup Love Gods (fwd) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 93 15:43:33 EST Forwarded message: > From root Wed Mar 24 15:39:02 1993 > Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1993 15:26:50 -0500 > From: Carolyn Shin > Message-Id: <199303242026.AA03906@cs.ulowell.edu> > To: ne-raves@gnu.ai.mit.edu > Subject: 808 State/MBM/Sup Love Gods > > > 808 State and Supreme Love Gods are also playing at the WFNX > thingy down on Lansdowne Street that same week. I don't recall > which day, though. I think it might be on Wednesday. > > CaRoLyN > > For those of us without IDs or enough years under our belts, this is off-limits... $10 for all the bands (other non-techno like Porno for Pyros and Therapy?), but 21+. This is one of the things I've always liked about the no-alcohol policy at raves, besides the lack of violence... -- Liz [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 24 Mar 93 16:43:52 EST From: djm@bedford.progress.COM (Dave McMahon) Subject: CT clubs My brother lives in Cromwell, CT and has been hitting just about every event that I've been at in the last couple of months, but he's bored during the week. Is there anything going on in CT during the week that I can tell him to try out? I told him about Bar and Tune Inn which I got from the Jan '92 Club List that Laura sent out. I don't know if those places are still on or what they're doing. Can anybody help? Taylor? you Zimmermans? :) thanks dave. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: mjt3w@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu Date: Wed, 24 Mar 93 21:03:01 EST Subject: Re: Rave-o-matic hey - how come our lovely little c-ville VA scene isn't making the list? at least put the 17th on the list- I want all the ne ravers to come visit (and 4 additional incentive April 13 is THomas Jefferson's birthday -hey ho) peace we out luCiD@virginia.edu [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: nivekogr@Athena.MIT.EDU Subject: New Hardfloor/UOS/Thanks Laura! Date: Wed, 24 Mar 93 21:13:20 EST Laura kicks some butt that needed to be kicked: >SO WHAT? I have every right to dislike breakbeat. I like Shawn (Overload), >he is a nice guy and plays some juicy stuff from time to time, but I'm really >bored of the breakbeat/prog. house thing. THIS IS JUST MY OPINION. >The type of music I like best is much harder than anything I heard at the Loft >last Friday. In fact, the hardest song they played at the Loft on Friday >was "Hardfloor Accsperience" [on Harthouse UK, don't remember the artists' >name though --it's the one that sounds like it could be by Sven Vath but >isn't]. The stuff I buy/spin is all harder than this. I, for one, look forward to your DJing debut (subliminal message -> play lots of 'hard acid'). Thanks for all the reviews as well! I must find the Critical Mass EP. BTW, Hardfloor has another release out (on Harthouse) called 'Trancescript'. Three tracks, lots o' acid. The title track is a 8.5 minute slow builder, kind of like Accperience #1 (remix), fabulous. The other two tracks are a little on the gimmicky side one of which has some tinkly piano loop in it. If you loved Accsperience, you'll love Trancescript. On the same label, Spicelab is also a nice slab in a similar style to Hardfloor. For some particularly scorching wiggly acid, try 'Rotation' (I'm probably a little off on this title -- second track picture label side) from Beltram/ DJ Paul's Hard Attack Vol.1 on Rotterdam Records. As for Aphex Twin, I'd strongly suggest getting the Polygon Window album over Analogue Bubblebath Vol.3. It showcases all of his styles and some tracks are downright catchy (I've got the title track tune in my head right now). I shudder to think at what this is going to cost import in Canada however. Isn't Aphex Twin supposed to be in Baltimore, along with Jeff Mills of X101,2,3 fame, this Saturday? If I was the travelling kind I'd make a beeline for this event although it does sound like it might be monstrous. Hopefully someone will attend and report back? A brief comment on Atlantis. Despite the fact I was quite enthusiastic about this event I left feeling rather disappointed. Granted, I believe moodwise I wasn't 'up' for the evening but I lust couldn't get into an inspired frame of mind. I found Overload's set annoying and Micro certainly seems to excel at playing unimaginative hardcore. Of course, Lenny Dee was exciting but I spent the time during his set being a groupie up in the DJ area, eyeballing (and making mental notes) of the tracks he was playing rather than enjoying myself doing the 'hardcore unending spasm' downstairs. Osheen's set didn't do much for me(another big disappointment) while Rio did catch my attention. Interesting loopy house from him. Again, an off night for me. As for hardcore, I certainly didn't think this night was anywhere near as energetically uplifting as the Adam X/L Dee/ Colin Dale triumvirate at Blue. What WAS nice was getting a copy of Under One Sky #9. After getting by a couple sub-literate articles by 'Fred Strong' (who is supposedly trying to get to the bottom of the Euromasters alleged anti-semitism controversy) and Frankie Bones (who strokes himself endlessly) we get to the heart of the issue. LOTS of top 10 lists from DJs around the globe, a top 100 list from the UOS people and then lots and lots of reviews of singles. Whatever you say about these guys, this is a great resource for people who are addicted to hardcore/acid. Still, I do wish the 'Cousin Sal' character could be a little bit more descriptive than constantly saying stuff like "towards the end of the song the drums pound faster & faster - at least 1 million BPMs maybe a billion....Blowing your brains out with a .357 magnum is the only thing that comes close." an effect Sal is intimately familiar with, no doubt. Of course the reviews are completely self-serving since UOS=Groove Records= one of only a handful of places you can get all the stuff reviewed. In the next issue Adam X will be interviewing Colin Dale about a term he has recently coined ... 'Intelligent Techno'. yikes... Oh yeah that "I'm a secretary" song is called (surprsingly) 'Secretary' by 'Synathadelic' on the label 'FAX'. Info culled from the pages of UOS #9. -Chris Teixeira P.S. How about some reviews of stuff up in Toronto? I'll be back there for the weekend of April 10th; hope something will be going on then. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1993 21:22:57 -0500 (EST) From: Alan Michael Parry Subject: Sunshine.. I'm gonna post this now, before the HOM, 'cos im worried that I wont get hooked up in time. Can anyone give me a ride to Sunshine Friday from Delaware? I heard that someone will be coming from NY which means they will be passing rightby me but I forget who it was. anyone? anyone? thanks all.. --Fluid [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 24 Mar 93 22:25:55 EST From: The Fresh Blend Subject: Vinyl shops I'm going to be in New York City this coming weekend, and I'd like to get info on vinyl stores that specialize in techno. I have a few questions: (a) What stores are there in the city? I know about Groove Records, but are there other record stores worth going to? (b) How do I get to these record stores? I'll be taking the commuter in from Port Chester, I think, and I'd like to know how to get to any record stores worth going to, including Groove Records -- that is, if anyone has a generally good sense of direction. (c) Also, are there any other shops or scenery worth checking out? Thanks for the help. I'd appreciate it if you mailed me directly at ST000912@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU before Friday evening, as I won't be able to check my mail after that point. On an unrelated note, my rave of choice for Saturday night is Nebula 3, so if any of you are going, I'll be wearing a bowling shirt with a white cross on the right breast. Come talk to me if you're going to be there. I'm coming . . . HARDCORE The Fresh Blend [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 24 Mar 1993 23:12:21 -0500 (EST) From: TOWER OF DUB Subject: to all you musicians out there... hey there ne-ravefanatics! i am looking for some phone numbers to equipment stores like caruso, etc. preferably out of state because i don't want to pay tax. i need a signal processor, within the week, so i need these numbers fast (i am too cheap to buy keyboard magazine!) ms5224@albnyvms.edu manish any information would be useful. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 24 Mar 1993 23:54:36 -0400 (EDT) From: an excursion through technospace Subject: ride needed to dune! or anywhere!! is anyone from NYC or south driving up to dune or nebula this weekdn? (tarek?) and.. if so.. is there room for one lonely raver?? i'd LOVE to go.. but, have no ways of getting anywhere anymore.. please email me if you can.. tod3253@ACFcluster.nyu.edu or call 212 941 5834 thank you.. and may you be blessed with the boom of an 808 kick >.taylor.x0x [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1993 21:05:25 -0800 (PST) From: Arthur Chandler Subject: Unscribe Unsubscribe, please. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 25 Mar 93 00:09:00 EST From: "John Speakman" Subject: 808 state/MBM/NYC April 17th at Roseland, guysngals (isn't that picnic day?) John. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 25 Mar 1993 01:57:50 -0400 (EDT) From: an excursion through technospace Subject: mbm/808state/nyc/picnic ahh.. perfect! perhaps we could journey on over to the roseland that evening?? or, is GRIN the choice event? me, without a ride.. am probably stuck going to mbm/808 hmmm..?? >>taylor.808 [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 25 Mar 93 02:27:00 EST From: "John Speakman" Subject: Re: picnic etc Doors don't open at roseland till 11..doesn't say when it all closes... maybe it's a quasi rave like the orb.... re ride..metoo.. hope to be getting a car this summer so can venture out of manhattan... do you need passports? Can't decide what to put on that badge...no rude suggestions...John [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Thu, 25 Mar 93 10:39:14 EST From: djm@bedford.progress.COM (Dave McMahon) Subject: Re: Unscribe > From arthurc@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu Thu Mar 25 00:15:20 1993 > Unsubscribe, please. You know, it's really amazing how many unsubscribe messages STILL come through the mailing list despite the numerous attempts by some people on this list to describe to the apparently illiterate morons who keep sending them. HELLO?? HELLO??!!? HELLO!!?!? WHat is so difficult about remembering to send your FUCKING unsubscribe messages to -request!?!?!?!?!?!? Are you brain damaged, maybe? Are you suffering from bad acid? I can excuse subscription requests, becuase there is that off-chance that they are first time net users, but unsubscribe messages? I don't think so. I'd just like to apologize to the rest of the list for wasting bandwidth to try to educate the few twits with limited cognitive abilities. AAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!! dave [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: mjt3w@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu Date: Wed, 24 Mar 93 21:03:01 EST Subject: Re: Rave-o-matic LUcid wrote: ------ hey - how come our lovely little c-ville VA scene isn't making the list? at least put the 17th on the list- I want all the ne ravers to come visit (and 4 additional incentive April 13 is THomas Jefferson's birthday -hey ho) peace we out luCiD@virginia.edu ------ I can only post iformation onn the Rave-o-matic if i have info to post! so if you have info, sed it to my address! thanks, doug ) ( dz5401a@american.edu [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1993 12:21 EST From: sparklE Subject: April 10the events SATURDAY APRIL 10 NYC STOP STOP THE BULLSHIT--LET'S GET HARDCORE Together We Rave (T.W.R.) presents STOP The Rebirth of Hardcore Saturday April 10th, 1993 midnight to sunrise... Mechanics of the NigghT: ADAM X (Storm FRANKIE BONES (Factory Groove) JIMMY CRASH (Storm-Direct Drive Records) DJ HEART (Under One Sky) MICRO (Caffiene, LI) K-5 (T.W.R.) DJ CARLOS (Brooklyn) tickets will be limited, Map point will be given with ticket for more info call the T.W.R. hotline at 212-465-2565 tickets on sale@Groove Records (Brooklyn) 718-714-5232 Vinyl Mania (NYC) 212-463-7129 D.J. Records (LI) 516-667-1112 promotions: Dennis the Menace.Heather Heather.Curious George.Gregory and Cris(LI).T.W.R.& Eddie van Raven... concessions:Joint Ventures visuals and computer animation: Eno One cold water bar all night... ---------------- and of course, Tune Inn in New Haven,CT is havingg their event April 10th... Djs are (incomplete list) dieselBoy (Pittsburgh) Overload (Deep in Maine) Nexus 6 (Tune Inn, Brooklyn) Jimmy Crash (Brooklyn) Mr. Trash (Connecticut) Joey Ventura (95.7 Kiss-FM) [bleeeechhh mersh dj] Dave Wave (Bar, New Haven) the flyers have yet to be done the man who's behind Tune Inn is an idiot so who knows what to expect peaceeeeeeeE SparklE. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1993 12:35:38 -0500 (EST) From: David M McDowell Subject: subscription Hi--I'd love to be on your mailing list. Can you put me on? Thanks. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 25-MAR-1993 12:54:43.74 From: sparklE Subject: Re: April 10th events (Dave replies hardcore) Received: from pscgate.progress.com by EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU (PMDF #12650) id <01GW8500I67K8Y5086@EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU>; Thu, 25 Mar 1993 12:47 EST Received: from progress.progress.COM ([192.9.210.4]) by pscgate.progress.com (4.1/pscgate1.1) id AA06015; Thu, 25 Mar 93 12:46:32 EST Received: from keywest.bedford.progress.COM by progress.progress.COM (4.1/psc2.1) id AA11578; Thu, 25 Mar 93 12:40:54 EST Received: by keywest.bedford.progress.COM (4.1/pscdev2.2) id AA07751; Thu, 25 Mar 93 12:46:26 EST Date: Thu, 25 Mar 93 12:46:26 EST From: djm@bedford.progress.COM (Dave McMahon) Subject: Re: April 10the events To: kzimmerman@EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU Message-id: <9303251746.AA07751@keywest.bedford.progress.COM> > SATURDAY APRIL 10 > NYC > > STOP > > STOP THE BULLSHIT--LET'S GET HARDCORE > > Together We Rave (T.W.R.) presents STOP > The Rebirth of Hardcore > > Saturday April 10th, 1993 > midnight to sunrise... > > Mechanics of the NigghT: > ADAM X (Storm > FRANKIE BONES (Factory Groove) > JIMMY CRASH (Storm-Direct Drive Records) > DJ HEART (Under One Sky) > MICRO (Caffiene, LI) > K-5 (T.W.R.) > DJ CARLOS (Brooklyn) Yo yo my people. I think we there?!? Yeah, you know it!!!!! Yippee!!!!!!! I'm flying in from Cancun on Friday night and I'll be in NYC that next night! dave. __ _ _ _ _ (_ (_) (_) (_) (/ ( (_ __) ( ( ) ( \ (\ (_ (_ hartcoreadrenalinrushvibethrowlustunionpushtwirlcreateventureforth. . [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 25 Mar 1993 13:15:48 -0400 (EDT) From: DJESRANI@CENTER.COLGATE.EDU Subject: Vernal Equinox/New Music The latest I heard regarding the incident which took place at last Saturday's Vernal Equinox in Troy, is that the girl's death was not drug-related. I was told by someone who spun there that night, and who helped put it together, that a malfunctioning strobe light induced an epileptic seizure in the girl. I've never heard anything like this, but I was also told that in some instances, strobe lights have been known to induce epileptic seizures in people who don't have epilepsy to begin with. Is this true? As far as we know, this could all be bullshit, so don't hold me accountable for perpetrating this.. :) Anyone who was there that night - there was a strobe right near the DJ 'area' which would come on intermittantly and flash at a REALLY rapid rate - could this be the one? Does anyone remember this particular light? I know it struck me as odd at the time, but I thought it was kinda cool - almost pure white light.. On a lighter note - I picked up the new Black Dog Productions LP on Warp (Warp CD8) Records. It's really good.. It kind of re-defines the way the listener thinks about 'techno' and dance music. Anyone who's a supporter of the 'intelligent techno'/'listening techno' movements taking place right now should check it out. It's really artful, and doesn't sound much like earlier Black Dog releases on General Productions (which I also LOVE). Come to Nebula! Darshan [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: ebh@mink.att.com Subject: Koresh Date: Thu, 25 Mar 93 13:12:53 EST Culled from the net: > Each morning CNN Headline News has a status report on the Waco cult > siege. Yesterday the Feds were blasting Laotion chants at the compound > as "psychological warfare." The effect was weaker than the Feds had > hoped, so this morning they switched to easy-listening Christmas > music! Leap to your own conclusions. Maybe if that doesn't work, they could hire Frankie Bones: "YOYOYOYOYO SECOND COMING IN DA MUTHAFUCKIN HAHDKOAH COMPOUND....." I'd give them two hours. :-) -Ed SLiP "into something guaranteed to work" [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Thu, 25 Mar 93 13:03 EST From: laura@usl.com Subject: the return of hardcore Kreig posted two flyers: >SATURDAY APRIL 10 >NYC > >STOP > >Mechanics of the NigghT: >JIMMY CRASH (Storm-Direct Drive Records) > >---------------- > >and of course, Tune Inn in New Haven,CT is havingg their >event April 10th... > >Djs are (incomplete list) > >Jimmy Crash (Brooklyn) Once again Jimmy is on two flyers on the same night. Fortunately, New Haven and Brooklyn are close enough that it is quite possible for him to do BOTH events in the same night, unlike back on February 6th when Crash was scheduled for a rave in Rhode Island and a rave in Ohio the same night, and went to Ohio even though he told the Rhode Island promoter he'd be in Rhode Island. Jimmy is a fine DJ and a sweet guy, I'd just never hire him to work at an event I was running . . . . I wish I could go to STOP, but that's Easter weekend and I promised my parents I'd go home to their house in Maryland. Damn. Hardcore/you know the score, Laura [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Thu, 25 Mar 93 13:14:15 EST From: robcamp@tmn.com (Robert Campanell) Subject: Cousin Sal I agree that Cousin Sal's reviews are not very descriptive, but I'm always entertained by his imaginative desriptions on how to destroy your brain. - Rob [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Thu, 25 Mar 93 10:35:23 -0800 From: ccat@netcom.com (Chris) Subject: Photosensitive epilepsy. Strobe lights will not induce a seisure in people who don't have photosensitive epilepsy..but some people may have epilepsy and not know it.. Statistically this is probably very rare,but it happens. I don't think epilepsy kills though..but maybye she broke her neck or somthing while she was having her seizure. Back when I was involved with ToonTown we decided we wanted to have a brain-machine chill area.To avoid this problem we made big disclaimer signs..to warn people before putting them on.(The brain machines always have a disclaimer printed on them too.) As someone who uses a brain machine frequently to get to sleep (it really works..) I know that these machines can frequently dramatically change your mental state.. It's so sad that this person had to find out the hard way.If she had known that she had this disease she would have known to avoid strobes..(or certain types of shadows.. blinking lights,etc..) -Chris. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1993 13:43:59 -0500 From: Dan English Subject: Re: Vernal Equinox/New Music RE: strobes causing epilectic seizures. a stupid note from me: the video for Wang Chung's "everybody have fun tonite" which had two slighlty different teps running every other frame- was banned from the BBC in england because of the fear of it causing epilectic seizures. its funny how much cheeze-trivia i know. -camper. * stay groovy. camper english it ain't easy, being cheesey @buphy.bu.edu [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1993 13:43:59 -0500 From: Dan English Subject: Re: Vernal Equinox/New Music RE: strobes causing epilectic seizures. a stupid note from me: the video for Wang Chung's "everybody have fun tonite" which had two slighlty different teps running every other frame- was banned from the BBC in england because of the fear of it causing epilectic seizures. its funny how much cheeze-trivia i know. -camper. * stay groovy. camper english it ain't easy, being cheesey @buphy.bu.edu [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: nivekogr@Athena.MIT.EDU Subject: STOP...living on video Date: Thu, 25 Mar 93 14:19:37 EST Laura, pining for a simpler time: >I wish I could go to STOP, but that's Easter weekend and I promised my >parents I'd go home to their house in Maryland. Damn. Ten minutes before the STOP info was posted, I bought non-refundable tickets back to Toronto for that weekend. Double damn. >Hardcore/you know the score, umm, aahh, actually...what IS the score? +8 perhaps? 242-to-muthafuckin'-0? what? -Chris Teixeira P.S. Who were the DJs at the HomePlanet After Life? "We've seen the hard left turn to the right..." [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Thu, 25 Mar 93 14:49:55 EST From: djm@bedford.progress.COM (Dave McMahon) Subject: Re: STOP...living on video > P.S. Who were the DJs at the HomePlanet After Life? Osheen and Rio and a couple of local guys from Providence. Amazing music that morning. It sounded sooooo good. Great crowd. Better vibe. According to KCN and Becca, Osheen ripped up some Brooklyn-CORE for late morning too... And of course, I left before that. :( :( :( I'm going to try to make it back to Home Planet this sunday after Nebula for another one of those cool mornings. :) LENNY D + MR. KLEEN + DAVE TRACE == FUCKING N E B U L A !!!!!!! dave. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Thu, 25 Mar 93 15:50 EST From: langint@usl.com Subject: picnic/grin logistics I have a funny feeling I've already said this, but I can't remember for sure and so am posting it again. Please forgive me if this is a repeat! Anyway: I don't know if you all realize this, but there's something you all should know about the Grin rave on April 17. It is in Portland, ME, which is about a 7 hour drive from New York City. So, anyone going to the picnic Taylor is planning in Central Park in New York that day should plan ahead if they really are going to go up to Grin afterward. Maybe going to the 808 State show at Roseland would be a better idea . . . Well, this is just a suggestion . . . the way people were talking about picnicing together and then going to Grin I wasn't sure if they realized how much driving they were really in for! Oh yeah, while I'm thinking about it: I'm told that Global Grooves is an every Saturday type of thing in New York City, so perhaps picnic-ers could go there afterwards, or even after 808 State as Global Grooves runs all night. Just trying to be helpful . . . Laura [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1993 16:33:33 -0500 (EST) From: Michel Angelo Battaglia Subject: Re: 808 State/MBM/Sup Love Gods (fwd) This tour comes to Pittsburgh on April 11. mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - "We're not post-House. We're post-everything. Actually, everyone else is just pre-St. Etienne." ---Bob Stanley, St.Etienne ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Mike Battaglia...........mb7z+@andrew.cmu.edu...... raving into the 21st century >>>lamb chop<<< [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 25 Mar 1993 16:48:27 -0400 (EDT) From: JASCHOENLY@vaxsar.vassar.edu Subject: clydes Does anyone know anywhere in NYC where I can get some old-school Puma Clydes? Address and/or phone number of store? Thanks. jacob [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: Kristine Carrol Noel Subject: FYI/Home Planet Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1993 17:06:03 -0500 (EST) I just got word that Home Planet is having a little gathering tomorrow night as sort of a "pre-Dune" party. I guess they are having *2* rooms and Osheen will be spinning in one and Andrew (i think that is his name..) will be in the other room. He's the same guy that was at the Atlantis after party. It's only $5 and they are expecting about 100 people. They want as many of us as possible! Sounds cozy. Oh, its all night too. Well, hope to see folks there! Luv, The Kat [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1993 17:26:59 -0500 From: Dan English Subject: future van from boston there will be a van or two going to the future rave from boston april 3. call mindwarp at 617-266-1987. i thionk i am going. -camper. * stay groovy. camper english it ain't easy, being cheesey @buphy.bu.edu [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Thu, 25 Mar 93 18:08:05 EST From: WILL-E Subject: Re: Photosensitive epilepsy. Satistically, from my understanding, one in four people can be induced to have a seizure with strobe lights on AT THE RIGHT FREQUENCY. Apparently, the police are investigating this as a form of crowd/riot control! That really disgusts / upsets me but that's the pigs for you... oink. I believe it was when I went to see Alien 3 in England, there was a warning before the film. I can't remember, are there strobes in this film? I also remember a theatrical play I went to having a warning in the lobby outside about strobes being in use. A good friend of mine is epileptic, and he's a dj which kind of sux for him because he can't be around strobes very much. He flipped out on me one night, and I was really scared since I wasn't in the right state of mind... very loud musick, so much fog that you can't see your hand in front of your face, and then strobes came on. Luckily he didn't panic too much and kept it under control, first he froze as he felt a fit coming on, I couldn't hear him and we couldn't even see each other but he found a corner and sat there until the fog cleared... then we went outside for some fresh air. As for brain machines... they're much safer as the frequency is different. However, I wouldn't use them for sleep! Our awake state is the beta range frequency of 13+ hertz (pulses per second). Relaxation and meditation are in the 9-12 hz alpha range. Deep relaxation, "superlearning", creative thinking and immagery, are in the 4-8 hz theta range and this is what dream machines aim for. Sleep is the 1-3 hz delta range. Unless your brain machine can induce a delta wave... it's not meant to put you to sleep and it's not healthy to do so. The idea is to try and establish a link between your unconscious and your conscious, ie. between sleep and being awake. Incidently, anyone can build one at home with a turntable that spins at 78 a red light bulb and some thick paper. You would need to cut out a specific pattern (devised by the French artist Brion Gysin in collaboration with William Burroughs) that I can provide. Ideally I'd like to set up an AMBIENT room, like at British raves, with ultra AMBIENT musick, a "dream" machine that everyone can use simultaneously (unlike the sunglasses and headphones type created by "new age capitalists") and lots of pillows BUT NO FLUFFY STUFFED ANIMALS! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ WILL-E | Do what thou wilt... | but clean what thou spilt L-ov-E iz thee fulfillment ov thee Law | and tilt what thou built ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1993 18:09:06 -0500 (EST) From: mike perkowitz Subject: Re: FYI/Home Planet On Thu, 25 Mar 1993, Kristine Carrol Noel wrote: > I just got word that Home Planet is having a little gathering tomorrow night > as sort of a "pre-Dune" party. i think i'll be there. wheeee... rave weekend! :) (sorta like massive weekend... :) mike [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Subject: Re: alt.rave, michael meacham responds From: inhuman@mindvox.phantom.com (Inhuman) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 93 19:02:02 EST I wrote Michael Meacham, asking him for an itemized cost breakdown of his rave. Here's what he sent me... Thought you all might be interested. techno016@aol.com writes: > I will be glad to give you a beak down: > > 1. Djs $4,750 > 2. Flyers and posters $3,800 > 3. Shiping $555 > 4. Tents $8,025 > 5. Space $2,500 > 6. Lights and Sound W/labor $18,000 > 7. Power (GEN>) $2,000+gas > 8. Staff $3,550(gest) > 9. Insurance ($1,500) > 10. City Paper Ad ($1,610) > 11 Promoters ($2,200+or-) > 12. Bands $8,000 with traval and exp > At this I could go on and on I am over my budget by $12,000 > our budget was $60,000 > > I have my own ideas about how to put on a rave. I like the idea of a caranval > mixed with a rave I think it gives people more to do. > Our ticket price is fair for what we are giving. > > Most raves are $15 and it cost them 1/4 of what we have paid for our event. > > Michael Meacham Michael | "I've begun to wonder if we wouldn't (inhuman@mindvox.phantom.com) | also regard spelunkers as desperate | criminals if AT&T owned all the ...trance form...trance send... | caves." --John Perry Barlow [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1993 20:35:38 -0500 (EST) From: Alan Michael Parry Subject: HOOKUP-O-MATIC ========================================================================== HOOKUP-O-MATIC FOR 3/26 3/27 ========================================================================== Okay boys and girls, here is the HOM for this weekend. Thanks to all who sent something in for this week. I hate to bitch and moan but this thing doesn't really work unless evryone mails me where they are going to. I'm afraid that I cant know where you are going to be - it is up to you to tell me. On a more cheerfull note - see you at Sunshine!! - Fluid ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Friday, March 26th American University, DC S U N S H I N E INFO# (202) 885 7135 DJs| DJ Thirteen (NJ), DJ Slip (NJ), DJ +8 (UMD), DJ Havoc (Virginia), DJ Doughs (DC), DJ Plastech (SF), DJ Chuck (DC), DJ Pulse (Virginia), DJ Donnie (MD). Chris Daniel (THALX@Wam.umd.edu) *-part of the UMD laser crew Techno Tom (TEDWARDS@Wam.umd.edu) *-part of the UMD laser crew XtoFer Edwards (CTE9Q@Uva.pcmail.virginia.edu) *-wearing his "Thomas + Laura Jefferson meets rave wear" hat Derek Tiffany (TIFFANYDE@Urvax.urich.edu) *-dressed as night & day! & girlfriend (has room for 2-3 from Richmond or Frederick MD) Doug Zimmerman (DZ5401A@American.edu) *-dancing like a mad-man! Inhuman (INHUMAN@Mindvox.phantom.com) *-running the smartbar & Bullwinkle Susie (SK2479A@American.edu) Rob Campanell (ROBCAMP@Well.sf.ca.us) *-virtual entertainment ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Saturday, March 27th Baltimore, MD TRIPTRONICS SENSORY OVERLOAD INFO# (410) 523 1882 DJs| The Aphex Twin - Richard James (Cornwall,UK), Scott Henry (Fever), Jeff Mills (Chicago), DJ Sun (Ultraworld), James Christian (Storm), Overload DJs - Mindphug, LG, Bobble, Wash, Who, and Entity. + LIVE GLITCH - performing cuts from their new Industrial Strength 12" Derek Tiffany (TIFFANYDE@Urvax.urich.edu) *- green fanny pack stuffed full of candy! YAY! + the majority of people at SUNSHINE (see above) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, March 27th Pawtucket, RI D U N E INFO# (401) 454 6060 DJs| Dutch (SF), Onionz (NY), Mgee (UK), Osheen (RI), Dale Charles (SD), Rio (NY). Mike Perkowitz (MAP@Miles.cs.brown.edu) *-with his pictures! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- RIDES EVER SO DESPERATELY NEEDED!!!!!!!!! HELP US!! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Taylor (TOD3253@ACFcluster.nyu.edu) FROM: NYC TO: ANYWHERE!! Fluid (BRIT@Ravel.udel.edu) FROM: DELAWARE TO: SUNSHINE (I could possibly get to Pathesda, MD) Dang (DMN@Eniac.seas.upenn.edu) FROM: UPENN TO: SUNSHINE (Call# (215) 573 7333) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Thats it people......have fun and brush those teeth! --Fluid [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Subject: hardcore Date: Thu, 25 Mar 93 20:56:28 EST From: SHALAKO (technokachina) re: hardcore in reference to hardcore, i've heard from people around the net and everywhere when i was in ny and dc, that the track is better based on how hard and evil it is...that a really good track is tagged with the comment- this will hurt you. this is very frightening. isn't there enough evil, hate, and anger in the world? i'd like to hear from some of the hardcore fans out there, *honestly* why you like this style of music, and why the music must accompanied by such an attitude! i understand why ny and dc would naturally be centers for this style of music, the cities being little more than urban war zones. and that by living there, you are surrounded by violence and anger, the coldness of greedy bussiness and it's minions, the GO GO GO attitude towards life and work, and the fast pace of everything. there is a very strong feeling of evil there. but why go along with it? new york can also be a very beautiful place, full of a wealth of art and culture, parks and coffee shops, etc. why not spread this vibe instead of driving the feeling deeper into the darkness? i used to be an industrial punk a number of years ago, the power and fury of the music really turned me on. i was really into hardcore street rap, too. again, it was the anger and fury, and a shit load of attitude. but i am not a big guy. there was no muscle or gun to back up that front. i'd always just end up getting bashed up in the pits, though addmitedly, i had fun doing it. but what was the point? how was i growing from the experience or the feeling? i wasn't i was going backwards, it was the human as an animal, as a predator and an ego, that was feeding off this feeling. my mind and spirit were dead to the world. i don't want this all to sound like a born-again christian bullshit story, i just want to know if these are some similar feelings to what some of you have experienced or are experiencing when you listen to hardcore. anyway, the phase only lasted less than a year, and after too many sprained ankles and bruises, and after the attitude of it all, and the mysogyny of rap disgusted me...it all drove me away from those feelings. i went back to my reggae roots, and dug out my seal and klf cd's...boy they sure sounded good. i started listening to all these old brian eno and jean-michael jarre tapes my dad made for me so long ago, and they meant so much more... etc.etc.etc. enough of the life story crap, all you hahdcore fans out there give me a shout out and tell me how you feel. i'd really appreciate it. why should we allow these feelings to continue? happy house, poppy breakbeat, and mind-soaring ambient for all... love, shannon. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1993 21:22:51 -0500 (EST) From: Alan Michael Parry Subject: Whoops...sorry! I meant I might be able to get to BETHESDA, MD. not Pathesda - DUHHH! ;) --Fluid [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Thu, 25 Mar 93 21:25:43 -0500 From: map@cs.brown.edu (Mike Perkowitz) Subject: re: hardcore i like hardcore, but i never feel angry when i listen to it or dance to it. i find it hypnotic, trance-inducing. i just go to the 1-2-3-4 and lose myself in it, forget everything, the petty things i worry about, the aches in my feet and legs. though maybe i'm not who you mean shannon, because i find a lot of the raucous aspect of brooklyn hardcore a distraction from the trance... yeah, i like hard trance too. but sometimes some hard hardcore is what it takes to move me. could anyone see me at massive dose and not think the hardcore was doing something positive with/to/for me? it seems to me there's a lot of prejudice against hardcore around. maybe you don't like it, but give it a rest. i like a lot of stuff, and i like to hear it all - too much of one style and i get bored. give me variety, eclecticism, and get me moving. and if what moves me doesn't move you, okay. and if what moes you doesn't move me, fine. shannon, i was an industrial punk for a while too. i think like you, i've moved through it to something less sort of adolescent-angsty (apologies to people who like industrial - i don't mean to dis it, but i can't think of any words to describe it that aren't loaded). but i don't think i have to react against it as i think you may be doing... i just want to go and be overwhelmed and dance and lose myself... hope to see everyone soon... :) mike [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1993 21:36:42 -0500 From: Eric Freeman Subject: Re: CT clubs BAR and Tune-INN are still in action on Saturday nights. I hadn't been to BAR for about a month but I decided to check it out last Saturday. Either the scene has deteriorated somewhat or it was a bad night. Jacquelyn Christine was spinning. I don't know what peoples opinions of her are but I was *NOT* impressed. Her whole set seemed rather mindless. Dave the Wave usually spins up till about 11:30 and then the guest DJ comes on. Every once in a while Dave the Wave has a good night but in general its not worth showing up before 11:30. I haven't been to Tune-INN in a long time so I can't comment. Hope this helps. Eric [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1993 21:42:52 -0500 From: Eric Freeman Subject: Re: 808 State/MBM/Sup Love Gods (fwd) The tour hits New Haven April 13th at Toads (203) 624-TOAD. Eric [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 25 Mar 1993 21:58:22 -0400 (EDT) From: an excursion through technospace Subject: Re: hardcore the reason i like hardcore is because i can never get enough of the distorted squelchy 303 tripping over a big 909 kick drum... so, i guess my love for hardcore comes from my musician-ness-geeky-ness however, hardcore for me is not angry.. in fact, it is rather trancey... i'll never forget the time at ESSENCE when i stood still listening to this hardcore song on the floor...(well, i was dancing a little) and my mind was completely focused on the 303...i began to GET INSIDE the 303...talk about a fucking trance...it was unreal... i was just sitting there.. totally spaced.. smiling my head off and BEING the 303.. :) call me nutty.. so.. THAT's why i love hardcore...i too used to be really into the dark side of industrial music... but, after much mental and emotional times over the past couple of years.. realized that most of my "attitude" was fake and forced.. i'm not an angry person at heart. i cannot be angry.. it's not easy for me.. hardcore is hypnotik. >>taylor.808 s q u a r e w a v e f e t i s h t e a m [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Thu, 25 Mar 93 19:23:49 -0800 From: reillye@Cyanamid.COM (Eileen Reilly) Subject: hardcore it isn't a rave to me if there isn't _at least_ one set of hardcore... i love the stuff. i don't think that hardcore is angry music. something like min- istry is angry. i like hardcore because it does *something* for me that no other music does. like mike said, i lose myself and my problems when i listen to it.. no other music does that for me. i don't feel angry when i listen to it, i feel happy. i get a grin on my face when a good song comes on. music should make you feel good... i wouldn't listen to hardcore (or anything else) if made me feel otherwise. to each his/her own, i guess. eileen ps-i'm from suburban new jersey, where people have been known to leave their front doors unlocked... so i don't think the nyc/violence/hardcore relation- ship is really valid. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 25-MAR-1993 22:42:09.39 From: sparklE Subject: Re: hardcore one part of my hardcore love affair is that September Storm was such a good experience, I will always identify the sound of a pure 909 kick with a TOTAL MINDFUCK ADRENALIN RUSH. i got into this music without the aid of any pharmaceuticals, and it gave me such a rush and suich massive energy and tranced me out so incredibly tthat i could never let it go. i get PISSED at moshers. i was never an industrial mosh-punk. i was a sensitive alternative boy ;) moshing=admitting you cant dance as far as im concern. ive seen people mosh to LUSH. that BWAUM BWAUM BWAUM BWAUM 909 in 4/4 time is all i ever need in the end. God knows i love house, and i love breaks, and trance, but for every one i have an absolutely DIFFERENT reason for loving it. Hardcore doesnt have to be an angry expression. I admit i was not and still am not the happiest person you'll ever meet, but HARTCORE is a *good* way to release anguish. It is all released as ENERGY, something POSITIVE which flows from person to person and keeps them all going. I mean remember the vibe at Atlantis whil Lenny Dee was on? There were a lot of first-timers there, ones without thta hardcore-is-stooopid mindset that other ravers especially Boston House Snobs and San Francisco Intelligent Techno Snobs have. People have to learn, HARDCORE is not about anger, it's not about hurting people. The person who loves hardcore may feel anger or hate, but in the dancing to hardcore releases it in the most positive way possible. HARTCORE. THE FUTURE IS IN OUR HARTS. so i am perplexed at arguements against this type of techno or house, i'm sorry, for some reason i like it all, and for different reasons. it would take a very shallow person In MY Opinion to like only one variety of dance music Apple-Pie: you should share the European perspektiv on hartcore... __ _ _ _ _ (_ (_) (_) (_) (/ ( (_ __) ( ( ) ( \ (\ (_ (_ hartcoreadrenalinrushvibethrowlustunionpushtwirlcreateventureforth. . [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 25-MAR-1993 22:50:56.11 From: sparklE Subject: Re: Vernal Equinox/New Music >RE: strobes causing epilectic seizures. >a stupid note from me: >the video for Wang Chung's "everybody have fun tonite" which had two slighlty >different teps running every other frame- was banned from the BBC in england >because of the fear of it causing epilectic seizures. >its funny how much cheeze-trivia i know. > -camper. No Camper. It isn't funny. It's quite sad actually. :) ;) heheheh __ _ _ _ _ (_ (_) (_) (_) (/ ( (_ __) ( ( ) ( \ (\ (_ (_ hartcoreadrenalinrushvibethrowlustunionpushtwirlcreateventureforth. . [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Thu, 25 Mar 93 22:53:54 EST From: WILL-E Subject: Re: hardcore > re: hardcore I like to be affected. And hardcore is cathartic for me. Wuz it Plato who who spoke about the theater being cathartic? Well dancing to HARDcore has an exiliarating effect on me... a really good workout... it makes me feel physically ALIVE! It also sorts my head out. You think hardcore is evil? I don't think you've heard evil musick then. >this is very frightening.isn't there enough evil, hate, and anger in the world? Wait a second... this I don't understand... how did you arrive at the conclusion that hardcore is evil, a result of hate or anger? How is attitude instantly correlated? It sounds like you take hardcore too seriously... loosen up... it makes me laugh. Perhaps you don't understand the humor and being someone born on a cottonball in a patch of strawberries, I can see why. Get a grip! Why do you impose your rose colored glasses view on it? Why do you need to understand it? With your logick, do you randomly psychoanalyze criminals as well? Hardcore to me is like the simpsons is to cartoons. Much more realistic, funnier and not some fairy tale. > i understand why ny and dc would naturally be centers for this style of music, > the cities being little more than urban war zones. and that by living there, you > are surrounded by violence and anger, the coldness of greedy bussiness and it's > minions, the GO GO GO attitude towards life and work, and the fast pace of > everything. there is a very strong feeling of evil there. Now you sound like a Christian fundamentalist. Perhaps you should start an anti-hardcore cult (if you haven't already) and join the other two religious fanatics in Waco, Texas. Now how do you explain the attraction to harcore in England where it started? I lived there for 11 months off and on for the past 3 years. The attitude is SLOW, SLOW, SLOW. Lots of hippies, lots of ravers, and compared to the US, NO VIOLENCE. Remember, even the police don't have guns over there! There is a very strong feeling of peace there. yet, HARDCORE THRIVES! Open your mind... your quasi-intellectual sociological analysis of hardcore doesn't work. > was the anger and fury, and a shit load of attitude. I know what you're saying about New York...hey I live here... but I'm not full of anger, or concerned with power... and more importantly.. I have no time for people with attitude. The Broolyn posse has lots of attitude, and they like hardcore but does that mean that one caused the other? I don't like these generalizations and implied causalities you've made. Speaking of attitude, what's this attitude you have? This, oh I love everybody and this syrupy sweet life is beautiful.... yes unless you're into hardcore. This, dare I say exclusion or elitism is an inherent contradiction. Do you need to shove love down everyone's throat? > happy house, poppy breakbeat, and mind-soaring ambient for all... i think i feel sick. I like these and a LOT more unlike yourself. I think you're limiting yourself. Sorry if you think i'm coming down hard on you but your preconceived notions force me to REACT. Wake up! If you really want to understand ask people in person. I'd much rather discuss this in person. If you meet me you'll find I'm probably just as much a leftist liberal quasi politically correct, coming from a double minority background, veggetarian dirty hippy if you will. I detest violence (unless necessary) and respect life & L-ov-E too. I consider myself a very happ-E person (not all the time... let's be real here) and very friendly (maybe not at this moment tho). I consider myself to be well rounded... I can be flowers and kisses but I can also be frightening. I just don't choose these things to lead my life just because they're trendy. And besides, my identity is much more complex than to label me a raver or let any of these things soley define my life. I guess I've said enough for now except: next up: New York devil worshippers hold a black mass in the form of a hardcore rave to summon Satan and bring evil and doom upon the world at the next full moon! Oprah and Geraldo will telecast live! [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 25-MAR-1993 22:55:51.46 From: sparklE Subject: Re: hardcore >i used to be an industrial punk a number of years ago, the power and fury of the >music really turned me on. i was really into hardcore street rap, too. again, it >was the anger and fury, and a shit load of attitude. hardcore street rap?! ackk.... man that was the shit that drove me *out* of my hip-hop world i thought NWA was good for a laff when they first came out, but then all this gangsta rap started pouring from every corner of the country, and every whitebread mofo i knew thought because he liked that stuff and PE that he wa some hahdkoah bitch. Thank god Tribe came around and turned stuff away from that I wish Brand Nubian had done that earlier but they were still too cuaght up in the parallel afrocentric thing well just my complaints about why i stopped loving rap music. I AM THE MANIPULATOR M-A-N-I-P-U-LATOR!!!!!! Mixmaster G :) __ _ _ _ _ (_ (_) (_) (_) (/ ( (_ __) ( ( ) ( \ (\ (_ (_ hartcoreadrenalinrushvibethrowlustunionpushtwirlcreateventureforth. . [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 25-MAR-1993 22:59:44.10 From: sparklE Subject: re: hardcore >shannon, i was an industrial punk for a while too. i think like you, i've >moved through it to something less sort of adolescent-angsty (apologies >to people who like industrial - i don't mean to dis it, but i can't think >of any words to describe it that aren't loaded). but i don't think i have >to react against it as i think you may be doing... yeah i guess i was never an industrial punk. i always found that NIN style anger really cheesy and artificial. i always tended towards the dance side of things, hence loving Front 242 and Meat Beat then came techno __ _ _ _ _ (_ (_) (_) (_) (/ ( (_ __) ( ( ) ( \ (\ (_ (_ hartcoreadrenalinrushvibethrowlustunionpushtwirlcreateventureforth. . [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Subject: re: hardcore From: inhuman@mindvox.phantom.com (Inhuman) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 93 22:58:34 EST I like hardcore a lot, too. I don't feel angry when I dance to it, and I never stop smiling. The only thing I don't like about hardcore is the typical crowd it attracts. It sure would be nice to have a no attitude hardcore rave...(hey, sunshine! hmmm...) Michael | "I've begun to wonder if we wouldn't (inhuman@mindvox.phantom.com) | also regard spelunkers as desperate | criminals if AT&T owned all the ...trance form...trance send... | caves." --John Perry Barlow [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Thu, 25 Mar 93 20:08:57 -0800 From: ccat@netcom.com (Chris) Subject: Dante's picnic.. Think I mentioned this before but,people should be aware that Dante's picnic (the Evolution collective) is coming up,I think around May 17th in NYC's Central Park. -Chris. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 25-MAR-1993 22:51:56.42 From: sparklE Subject: Re: Cousin Sal >I agree that Cousin Sal's reviews are not very descriptive, but I'm >always entertained by his imaginative desriptions on how to destroy >your brain. >- Rob I think Cousin Sal realizes that it's very hard to relate what exactly the trax sound like so he lets your imagination take over. He's always good for a laff. I hope he keeps writing reviews like he always does __ _ _ _ _ (_ (_) (_) (_) (/ ( (_ __) ( ( ) ( \ (\ (_ (_ hartcoreadrenalinrushvibethrowlustunionpushtwirlcreateventureforth. . [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 25-MAR-1993 23:21:46.83 From: sparklE Subject: Re: hardcore AIIIGGHHHH!!! my other reply evaporated so here I go again!!! >> re: hardcore >I like to be affected. And hardcore is cathartic for me. Wuz it Plato who >who spoke about the theater being cathartic? Well dancing to HARDcore has >an exiliarating effect on me... a really good workout... it makes me feel >physically ALIVE! It also sorts my head out. You think hardcore is evil? >I don't think you've heard evil musick then. I agree entirely. This is the mindfuckadrenalinrush thing. Hartcore is a key element in my musickal diet becuz it provides me with a spectacular way to deal with the knots in my soul through dancing. Not to mention improving my healthiness :) >>this is very frightening.isn't there enough evil, hate, and anger in the world? >Wait a second... this I don't understand... how did you arrive at the >conclusion that hardcore is evil, a result of hate or anger? How is attitude >instantly correlated? It sounds like you take hardcore too seriously... >loosen up... it makes me laugh. Perhaps you don't understand the humor and >being someone born on a cottonball in a patch of strawberries, I can see why. >Get a grip! Why do you impose your rose colored glasses view on it? Why do >you need to understand it? With your logick, do you randomly psychoanalyze >criminals as well? Hardcore to me is like the simpsons is to cartoons. >Much more realistic, funnier and not some fairy tale. how does the assumption come that hardcore is bringing MORE evil and hate into the world?! this is such a silly thing to believe. Hardcore has a message. Maybe you need to escape from the real world when you dance. But hardcore is a reminder. If you cant escape, it's there to say "life can be a bitch". squelching it doesnt remove reality. it'd be a shallow person who cant handle the realities of hardcore. >> i understand why ny and dc would naturally be centers for this style of music, >> the cities being little more than urban war zones. and that by living there, you >> are surrounded by violence and anger, the coldness of greedy bussiness and it's >> minions, the GO GO GO attitude towards life and work, and the fast pace of >> everything. there is a very strong feeling of evil there. >Now you sound like a Christian fundamentalist. Perhaps you should start an >anti-hardcore cult (if you haven't already) and join the other two religious >fanatics in Waco, Texas. Now how do you explain the attraction to harcore >in England where it started? I lived there for 11 months off and on for the >past 3 years. The attitude is SLOW, SLOW, SLOW. Lots of hippies, lots of >ravers, and compared to the US, NO VIOLENCE. Remember, even the police don't >have guns over there! There is a very strong feeling of peace there. yet, >HARDCORE THRIVES! Open your mind... your quasi-intellectual sociological >analysis of hardcore doesn't work. I personally believe the non-existence of a hardcore scene in Boston has to do with it's ultratrendy, dead and depressing mindlessness. There is no diversity in thought or style. Ravers in Boston, it seems, must love progressive house, and love waiting through six hours of asshole crowds at the Loft to hear it, to have their due. Boston needs someone to shake it up. It needs more clubs, and a greater diversity of musical styles. Even breakbeat has become musica non grata there, which pisses me to no end. House is good, but only house?! That's pointless. >> was the anger and fury, and a shit load of attitude. >I know what you're saying about New York...hey I live here... >but I'm not full of anger, or concerned with power... and more importantly.. >I have no time for people with attitude. The Broolyn posse has lots of >attitude, and they like hardcore but does that mean that one caused the other? >I don't like these generalizations and implied causalities you've made. >Speaking of attitude, what's this attitude you have? >This, oh I love everybody and this syrupy sweet life is beautiful.... >yes unless you're into hardcore. This, dare I say exclusion or elitism >is an inherent contradiction. Do you need to shove love down everyone's >throat? You will love each other or you will die. A lot of New York attitude is inherent in the place. An attitude is sometimes needed to survive. It doesn't make them bad people, or evil. I think Brooklyn's just as mindless for keeping to singleminded hardcoreness, but they are in the minority so you have to respect their faith. >> happy house, poppy breakbeat, and mind-soaring ambient for all... >i think i feel sick. I like these and a LOT more unlike yourself. I think >you're limiting yourself. Life is not just a rose garden, if I can be trite. >Sorry if you think i'm coming down hard on you but your preconceived notions >force me to REACT. Wake up! If you really want to understand ask people >in person. I'd much rather discuss this in person. If you meet me you'll >find I'm probably just as much a leftist liberal quasi politically correct, >coming from a double minority background, veggetarian dirty hippy if you will. >I detest violence (unless necessary) and respect life & L-ov-E too. >I consider myself a very happ-E person (not all the time... let's be real here) >and very friendly (maybe not at this moment tho). I consider myself to be >well rounded... I can be flowers and kisses but I can also be frightening. >I just don't choose these things to lead my life just because they're trendy. >And besides, my identity is much more complex than to label me a raver or >let any of these things soley define my life. >I guess I've said enough for now except: >next up: New York devil worshippers hold a black mass in the form of a >hardcore rave to summon Satan and bring evil and doom upon the world at >the next full moon! Oprah and Geraldo will telecast live! Frankie Bones Mcs: "YOYOYOY BEEXLEBUB YOU KNOW THE SKOAH.... RUSH TO THE PENTAGRAM RUSH RUSH TO THE PENTAGRAM." __ _ _ _ _ (_ (_) (_) (_) (/ ( (_ __) ( ( ) ( \ (\ (_ (_ hartcoreadrenalinrushvibethrowlustunionpushtwirlcreateventureforth. . [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Fri, 26 Mar 93 00:56:34 EST From: "Douglas B. Zimmerman" Subject: Rave-o-matic size question Question : how many people have problems with the size of the ROM with their mailers? Got some letters asying thei mailers had problems with it. Anyone? doug )( dz5401a@american.edu come tooooooo sunshinesunshinesunshineshunshinesunshinesunshinesunshinesunshinesunshinesunshi [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Subject: re: hardcore From: inhuman@mindvox.phantom.com (Inhuman) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 93 22:58:34 EST I like hardcore a lot, too. I don't feel angry when I dance to it, and I never stop smiling. The only thing I don't like about hardcore is the typical crowd it attracts. It sure would be nice to have a no attitude hardcore rave...(hey, sunshine! hmmm...) Michael | "I've begun to wonder if we wouldn't (inhuman@mindvox.phantom.com) | also regard spelunkers as desperate | criminals if AT&T owned all the ...trance form...trance send... | caves." --John Perry Barlow [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: ebh@mink.att.com Subject: Re: hardcore Date: Fri, 26 Mar 93 1:54:31 EST Oh boy! Time for another one of Ed's marginally intelligent what- is-the-nature-of-raving posts! Betcha can't wait! Levity first... > that a really good track is tagged with the comment- this will > hurt you. Shouldn't that be: T H I S W I L L H U R T Y O U (Apologies to non Ren & Stimpy fans. :-) (Further apologies, in advance, for possibly being redundant with Will-E's and Eileen's excellent messages.) > i'd like to hear from some of the hardcore fans out there, [...] > why the music must [be] accompanied by such an attitude! Who says it must be accompanied by *any* attitude? > i understand why ny and dc would naturally be centers for this style > of music, the cities being little more than urban war zones. So why is so little hardcore actually *made* in NY or DC? I don't know of *any* DC-based hardcore record labels. In Brooklyn, Direct Drive records is basically an importer of European techno, and Indus- trial Strength is two individuals, one of whom, in various guises, makes or produces just about all the music in the catalog. Most of the world's best hardcore comes out of the same places that the world's best *techno* originates. (Although I have to admit that I know of no ambient on Rotterdam Records. :-) > why not spread this [positive] vibe > instead of driving the feeling deeper into the darkness? I'm stumped. I really don't see how hardcore techno promotes the social ills you mentioned, any more than Ozzy Osbourne causes teenagers to commit suicide. > i used to be an industrial punk a number of years ago A lot of us got to techno by way of industrial and punk. Some of us were into it before some others of us were born. (Remember when Industrial was a record label, not a genre, and the term "punk" had not yet been coined because the mass media was still waiting for disco to die?) What got me into *raving* was the lack of "club" attitude. This is not the same as the attitude put forth by so-called "gangster" rap. It's more like the meat-market lounge-lizard sort of thing that should have gone the way of leisure suits. Today, unless you know the right people, when you go into your average club, you might as well be locked in a bubble. You're totally alone in a crowd of hundreds of people. I've experienced this everywhere from midtown Manhattan to the cotton towns of Alabama. > there was no muscle or gun to back up that front. i'd > always just end up getting bashed up in the pits, though addmitedly, > i had fun doing it. but what was the point? If you saw moshing as a metaphor for combat, then I don't see a point, either. But when I do it, it is an acknowledgment that there are still things in this big capitalist world that will really piss me off. There are also things that have been done to me about which I am still angry. That anger has to go somewhere. We've been taught that the only way to channel our anger is either inward or into some form of combat. Moshing, for me, broke that ideology. It said that I could *be* angry, without having to explain it to anyone, and that there was a place I could blow it off where people would understand, where we could assist each other in doing the same thing, rather than having to win at something, or having to destroy something (possibly ourselves). > if these are some similar feelings to what some of you have > experienced or are experiencing when you listen to hardcore. When I listen to hardcore, I'm in a completely different mindset. As I said during the "moshing at raves" debate, if I need to mosh I have no business at a rave. I go to a rave in order to, and because I already do, feel good, and I want to maximize the spiritual benefit of those good feelings. I jump into a mosh pit because I *don't* feel good, and I want to purge myself of the physical and spiritual toxins that prevent me from feeling better. > the mysogyny of rap disgusted me... What about non-misogynistic rap? Rap doesn't end at N.W.A and Ice-T. I'm kind of partial to Queen Latifah and Monie Love, myself. > i went back to my reggae roots, and dug out my seal and klf cd's... > i started listening to all these old brian eno and jean-michael > jarre tapes my dad made for me so long ago, Yep, I 'member the old days, oh, mus' be nigh on to *two year* ago now. :-) Seriously, I'm old enough to remember when Jarre's first album came out, when Wendy Carlos was still Walter Carlos, and when Bob Marley was still making records. My all time desert-island CD was originally recorded in 1958. But did they mean more than the music that's important to me now? Hardly. I can get exactly the same feeling from a good hardcore set that I get from Beethoven's Sixth (the aforementioned CD), that I get from the middle section of the original Autobahn by Kraftwerk, that I get from a Stanley Clarke bass solo. None of that involves moshing, gang-banging, or pickup lines. > why should we allow these feelings to continue? This is truly a scary statement. Sorry, time for yet another Ren and Stimpy quote: "...and this button controls *how* happy you are!" Or naybe Jello Biafra: "The comfort you have always demanded is now mandatory!" I really like the basic peace/love/unity ideology of raving in its purest form. But part of what I like about it is that it's *accidental*. Nobody was thinking about "the rave scene" when they first started making techno. But, when it stops being accidental, when it becomes mandatory, then it becomes yet another commodity to be bought and sold right next to the F.C.O.J. I'm going to allow my feelings to continue, good or bad, because they're *MY* goddamn feelings, and I won't be held answerable to *anybody* for whether they're acceptably positive or not! And in the other direction, I have absolutely no right to expect the rave scene to somehow make me a happier person. Right now, it does. I like that. The improvement to my overall quality of life is such that I'm willing to put a nontrivial amount of effort into keeping the scene going. But that does not imply that it has to continue making my life better. When the scene is no longer pleasant for me, that's when I stop raving, but the scene lives on. If my departure has any significant effect on it, then it's as good as dead already. > happy house, poppy breakbeat, and mind-soaring ambient for all... Whether we like it or not? -Ed SLiP "into whatever you want to. You are free." [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Fri, 26 Mar 93 02:35:10 EST From: SHALAKO (technokachina) well, i wrote another long piece about how important i thought it was to spread a positive vibe and be blissful whenever we can despite this really evil place we live in...and how music seems to be such an effective way to do this and make people smile at one another... but then i erased it because i've begun to think that maybe i've been making a fool of myself because there aren't that many people out there who really take the subject of this list that seriously. just another mailing list. another means of computer communication and information data processing... i've been told i'm taking this "scene" way too seriously. what is too serious? is that sooo serious that it starts to get in the way of the "real world"? "wake up!" should i smell the coffee? look around me and see that everything isn't love and daisies? get my shit together and climb that ladder of amerikkka? well...i've been "blessed" with a taste of the "real world", it sucks. i like to have as minimal an interface with it as possible. granted, having been homeless for a portion of my life does wonders for my attitude.and looking around at all these go-getters at this school, who are frantically trying to make it in the real world, but they're so spiritually void, and emotionally blank or total psychos. is the "real world" such a good thing? anyway, there's a lot of stuff that i'd like to say but i remind myself that mailing lists are not for emotional expression, but for information distribution. fucking cold. everything around us tries to suppress emotion and homogonize the spirit. i want to thank those who responded to my query about hardcore, i'm trying to understand. i know it's probably me. it's just the way the sound makes me feel is not at all happy. not to mention that most of it is really annoying music annyway... is there anyone out there who feels that raving and similar activities (people of all kinds brought together in peace through music and dance) is one of- if not the most important thing in their lives? shannon. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 25-MAR-1993 22:59:44.10 From: sparklE Subject: re: hardcore >shannon, i was an industrial punk for a while too. i think like you, i've >moved through it to something less sort of adolescent-angsty (apologies >to people who like industrial - i don't mean to dis it, but i can't think >of any words to describe it that aren't loaded). but i don't think i have >to react against it as i think you may be doing... yeah i guess i was never an industrial punk. i always found that NIN style anger really cheesy and artificial. i always tended towards the dance side of things, hence loving Front 242 and Meat Beat then came techno __ _ _ _ _ (_ (_) (_) (_) (/ ( (_ __) ( ( ) ( \ (\ (_ (_ hartcoreadrenalinrushvibethrowlustunionpushtwirlcreateventureforth. . [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: the beloved Subject: Re: hardcore Date: Fri, 26 Mar 93 03:11:23 -0500 : Hardcore doesnt have to be an angry expression. I admit i was not and still : am not the happiest person you'll ever meet, but HARTCORE is a *good* way : to release anguish. It is all released as ENERGY, something POSITIVE which : flows from person to person and keeps them all going. I agree. I'm a relative newcomer to hardcore, and enjoy it immensely. When I first heard "Metapharstic" by Aphex Twin, or "The 2nd Coming" by Mescalinum United, my first reaction was, "now this is what I've been looking for!" While I'm definitely not bored by breakbeat or progressive house, hardcore gets me going every time. By nature, I try to keep a calm demeanor, but there are times when I'd like to vent my anger. Rather than blow up in someone's face, I can more effectively channel my energy through dancing to hardcore. Dancing in itself is good for this, but for me, dancing to hardcore is a bit more effective. Paul PS. This is getting away from hardcore, but since I'm posting... I have a question about tribal. What is it? The only song I've come across that conjures up images of grass skirts, wild animals, etc. (my image of tribal music) is "The Crossing" by Mind over Rhythm. Is there anything else on the _Trance_ comp. that is considered tribal? Any other tunes I should look out for? Thanks. -- beloved@virginia.edu "Hey, I've been saved!" - Frank Zappa psc9q@holmes.acc.virginia.edu [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 25-MAR-1993 23:21:46.83 From: sparklE Subject: Re: hardcore AIIIGGHHHH!!! my other reply evaporated so here I go again!!! >> re: hardcore >I like to be affected. And hardcore is cathartic for me. Wuz it Plato who >who spoke about the theater being cathartic? Well dancing to HARDcore has >an exiliarating effect on me... a really good workout... it makes me feel >physically ALIVE! It also sorts my head out. You think hardcore is evil? >I don't think you've heard evil musick then. I agree entirely. This is the mindfuckadrenalinrush thing. Hartcore is a key element in my musickal diet becuz it provides me with a spectacular way to deal with the knots in my soul through dancing. Not to mention improving my healthiness :) >>this is very frightening.isn't there enough evil, hate, and anger in the world? >Wait a second... this I don't understand... how did you arrive at the >conclusion that hardcore is evil, a result of hate or anger? How is attitude >instantly correlated? It sounds like you take hardcore too seriously... >loosen up... it makes me laugh. Perhaps you don't understand the humor and >being someone born on a cottonball in a patch of strawberries, I can see why. >Get a grip! Why do you impose your rose colored glasses view on it? Why do >you need to understand it? With your logick, do you randomly psychoanalyze >criminals as well? Hardcore to me is like the simpsons is to cartoons. >Much more realistic, funnier and not some fairy tale. how does the assumption come that hardcore is bringing MORE evil and hate into the world?! this is such a silly thing to believe. Hardcore has a message. Maybe you need to escape from the real world when you dance. But hardcore is a reminder. If you cant escape, it's there to say "life can be a bitch". squelching it doesnt remove reality. it'd be a shallow person who cant handle the realities of hardcore. >> i understand why ny and dc would naturally be centers for this style of music, >> the cities being little more than urban war zones. and that by living there, you >> are surrounded by violence and anger, the coldness of greedy bussiness and it's >> minions, the GO GO GO attitude towards life and work, and the fast pace of >> everything. there is a very strong feeling of evil there. >Now you sound like a Christian fundamentalist. Perhaps you should start an >anti-hardcore cult (if you haven't already) and join the other two religious >fanatics in Waco, Texas. Now how do you explain the attraction to harcore >in England where it started? I lived there for 11 months off and on for the >past 3 years. The attitude is SLOW, SLOW, SLOW. Lots of hippies, lots of >ravers, and compared to the US, NO VIOLENCE. Remember, even the police don't >have guns over there! There is a very strong feeling of peace there. yet, >HARDCORE THRIVES! Open your mind... your quasi-intellectual sociological >analysis of hardcore doesn't work. I personally believe the non-existence of a hardcore scene in Boston has to do with it's ultratrendy, dead and depressing mindlessness. There is no diversity in thought or style. Ravers in Boston, it seems, must love progressive house, and love waiting through six hours of asshole crowds at the Loft to hear it, to have their due. Boston needs someone to shake it up. It needs more clubs, and a greater diversity of musical styles. Even breakbeat has become musica non grata there, which pisses me to no end. House is good, but only house?! That's pointless. >> was the anger and fury, and a shit load of attitude. >I know what you're saying about New York...hey I live here... >but I'm not full of anger, or concerned with power... and more importantly.. >I have no time for people with attitude. The Broolyn posse has lots of >attitude, and they like hardcore but does that mean that one caused the other? >I don't like these generalizations and implied causalities you've made. >Speaking of attitude, what's this attitude you have? >This, oh I love everybody and this syrupy sweet life is beautiful.... >yes unless you're into hardcore. This, dare I say exclusion or elitism >is an inherent contradiction. Do you need to shove love down everyone's >throat? You will love each other or you will die. A lot of New York attitude is inherent in the place. An attitude is sometimes needed to survive. It doesn't make them bad people, or evil. I think Brooklyn's just as mindless for keeping to singleminded hardcoreness, but they are in the minority so you have to respect their faith. >> happy house, poppy breakbeat, and mind-soaring ambient for all... >i think i feel sick. I like these and a LOT more unlike yourself. I think >you're limiting yourself. Life is not just a rose garden, if I can be trite. >Sorry if you think i'm coming down hard on you but your preconceived notions >force me to REACT. Wake up! If you really want to understand ask people >in person. I'd much rather discuss this in person. If you meet me you'll >find I'm probably just as much a leftist liberal quasi politically correct, >coming from a double minority background, veggetarian dirty hippy if you will. >I detest violence (unless necessary) and respect life & L-ov-E too. >I consider myself a very happ-E person (not all the time... let's be real here) >and very friendly (maybe not at this moment tho). I consider myself to be >well rounded... I can be flowers and kisses but I can also be frightening. >I just don't choose these things to lead my life just because they're trendy. >And besides, my identity is much more complex than to label me a raver or >let any of these things soley define my life. >I guess I've said enough for now except: >next up: New York devil worshippers hold a black mass in the form of a >hardcore rave to summon Satan and bring evil and doom upon the world at >the next full moon! Oprah and Geraldo will telecast live! Frankie Bones Mcs: "YOYOYOY BEEXLEBUB YOU KNOW THE SKOAH.... RUSH TO THE PENTAGRAM RUSH RUSH TO THE PENTAGRAM." __ _ _ _ _ (_ (_) (_) (_) (/ ( (_ __) ( ( ) ( \ (\ (_ (_ hartcoreadrenalinrushvibethrowlustunionpushtwirlcreateventureforth. . [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Fri, 26 Mar 93 03:51:52 -0500 From: Craig M. Kanarick Subject: I'm tryin' to think, but nothin' happens.... In a post to ne-raves, shannon coen writes: > but then i erased it because i've begun to think that maybe i've been > making a fool of myself because there aren't that many people out > there who really take the subject of this list that seriously. just > another mailing list. another means of computer communication and > information data processing... Sigh. Shannon, never consider yourself a fool for expressing your opinion, unless it is offered without thought. If this is something you believe, and something which you have analyzed, do not see it as *foolish*, for a fool is one who doesn't think, and who doesn't own an opinion. > anyway, there's a lot of stuff that i'd like to say but i remind > myself that mailing lists are not for emotional expression, but for > information distribution. fucking cold. everything around us tries to > suppress emotion and homogonize the spirit. Mailing lists are just that -- lists for mail. It is up to us to define what they are for. I find it disturbing that you feel strong enough about your feelings *about the list* that you can post them to all of us, but you fear to post your feelings *about life*, even though the above paragraph makes it clear they are related. I was going to congratulate you on actually posting a message with meaning on this list. Your post spurred a mostly intelligent set of reponses and was worth 1,000,100 "go away moby!" posts. (Not that I didn't find the _moby_ posts anything less than hysterical). I would so much rather read peoples views on music and the scene as opposed to a list of want ads, rave advertisements, chain letters, and posts that all read the same. I mean seriously, how many weeks in a row do I have to hear the same thing % It was great. There werE too many people smoking. DJ SoopErKool-6 % played 43.5 minutes of killer awesomE techno. It was soooooooo % wonderful to see my wonderful friends and hang out and be wonderful % with them. % A____, B_____, D_____, M______, and U_____ X_____, I can't wait to % have a meal with you again!!!!! J_____ -- I would have died if you % hadn't brought Milk Duds to the rave in your big hat. G_____, thanks % for the ride. Maybe next week we can meet for coffee? % Well,I'm completely incoherent because I haven't slept in 3 days, but % I knew all 300 of you would be interested in my narcoleptic ramblings. % Keep the faith!" Look, no offense to the people who write reviews of raves. I'm interested in how certain raves were. I just don't think it's the best use of this medium. > trying to understand. i know it's probably me. it's just the way the > sound makes me feel is not at all happy. not to mention that most of That's just it, isn't it, Shannon? "it's just me"? Of course, it's just *you*. That's what artistic expression (of which music, art, and raving are cousins of) is all about -- a particular communication from the "artist" to the "audience". > well...i've been "blessed" with a taste of the "real world", it sucks. Not wanting to sound callous, but *to you* the "real world" sucks. To others, it is a fantastic place, filled with wonder and excitement. And to still others, it's a plain bore. Do the best that you can, and in the end you will feel content. -- cmk [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: ebh@mink.att.com Subject: Re: hardcore Date: Fri, 26 Mar 93 1:54:31 EST Oh boy! Time for another one of Ed's marginally intelligent what- is-the-nature-of-raving posts! Betcha can't wait! Levity first... > that a really good track is tagged with the comment- this will > hurt you. Shouldn't that be: T H I S W I L L H U R T Y O U (Apologies to non Ren & Stimpy fans. :-) (Further apologies, in advance, for possibly being redundant with Will-E's and Eileen's excellent messages.) > i'd like to hear from some of the hardcore fans out there, [...] > why the music must [be] accompanied by such an attitude! Who says it must be accompanied by *any* attitude? > i understand why ny and dc would naturally be centers for this style > of music, the cities being little more than urban war zones. So why is so little hardcore actually *made* in NY or DC? I don't know of *any* DC-based hardcore record labels. In Brooklyn, Direct Drive records is basically an importer of European techno, and Indus- trial Strength is two individuals, one of whom, in various guises, makes or produces just about all the music in the catalog. Most of the world's best hardcore comes out of the same places that the world's best *techno* originates. (Although I have to admit that I know of no ambient on Rotterdam Records. :-) > why not spread this [positive] vibe > instead of driving the feeling deeper into the darkness? I'm stumped. I really don't see how hardcore techno promotes the social ills you mentioned, any more than Ozzy Osbourne causes teenagers to commit suicide. > i used to be an industrial punk a number of years ago A lot of us got to techno by way of industrial and punk. Some of us were into it before some others of us were born. (Remember when Industrial was a record label, not a genre, and the term "punk" had not yet been coined because the mass media was still waiting for disco to die?) What got me into *raving* was the lack of "club" attitude. This is not the same as the attitude put forth by so-called "gangster" rap. It's more like the meat-market lounge-lizard sort of thing that should have gone the way of leisure suits. Today, unless you know the right people, when you go into your average club, you might as well be locked in a bubble. You're totally alone in a crowd of hundreds of people. I've experienced this everywhere from midtown Manhattan to the cotton towns of Alabama. > there was no muscle or gun to back up that front. i'd > always just end up getting bashed up in the pits, though addmitedly, > i had fun doing it. but what was the point? If you saw moshing as a metaphor for combat, then I don't see a point, either. But when I do it, it is an acknowledgment that there are still things in this big capitalist world that will really piss me off. There are also things that have been done to me about which I am still angry. That anger has to go somewhere. We've been taught that the only way to channel our anger is either inward or into some form of combat. Moshing, for me, broke that ideology. It said that I could *be* angry, without having to explain it to anyone, and that there was a place I could blow it off where people would understand, where we could assist each other in doing the same thing, rather than having to win at something, or having to destroy something (possibly ourselves). > if these are some similar feelings to what some of you have > experienced or are experiencing when you listen to hardcore. When I listen to hardcore, I'm in a completely different mindset. As I said during the "moshing at raves" debate, if I need to mosh I have no business at a rave. I go to a rave in order to, and because I already do, feel good, and I want to maximize the spiritual benefit of those good feelings. I jump into a mosh pit because I *don't* feel good, and I want to purge myself of the physical and spiritual toxins that prevent me from feeling better. > the mysogyny of rap disgusted me... What about non-misogynistic rap? Rap doesn't end at N.W.A and Ice-T. I'm kind of partial to Queen Latifah and Monie Love, myself. > i went back to my reggae roots, and dug out my seal and klf cd's... > i started listening to all these old brian eno and jean-michael > jarre tapes my dad made for me so long ago, Yep, I 'member the old days, oh, mus' be nigh on to *two year* ago now. :-) Seriously, I'm old enough to remember when Jarre's first album came out, when Wendy Carlos was still Walter Carlos, and when Bob Marley was still making records. My all time desert-island CD was originally recorded in 1958. But did they mean more than the music that's important to me now? Hardly. I can get exactly the same feeling from a good hardcore set that I get from Beethoven's Sixth (the aforementioned CD), that I get from the middle section of the original Autobahn by Kraftwerk, that I get from a Stanley Clarke bass solo. None of that involves moshing, gang-banging, or pickup lines. > why should we allow these feelings to continue? This is truly a scary statement. Sorry, time for yet another Ren and Stimpy quote: "...and this button controls *how* happy you are!" Or naybe Jello Biafra: "The comfort you have always demanded is now mandatory!" I really like the basic peace/love/unity ideology of raving in its purest form. But part of what I like about it is that it's *accidental*. Nobody was thinking about "the rave scene" when they first started making techno. But, when it stops being accidental, when it becomes mandatory, then it becomes yet another commodity to be bought and sold right next to the F.C.O.J. I'm going to allow my feelings to continue, good or bad, because they're *MY* goddamn feelings, and I won't be held answerable to *anybody* for whether they're acceptably positive or not! And in the other direction, I have absolutely no right to expect the rave scene to somehow make me a happier person. Right now, it does. I like that. The improvement to my overall quality of life is such that I'm willing to put a nontrivial amount of effort into keeping the scene going. But that does not imply that it has to continue making my life better. When the scene is no longer pleasant for me, that's when I stop raving, but the scene lives on. If my departure has any significant effect on it, then it's as good as dead already. > happy house, poppy breakbeat, and mind-soaring ambient for all... Whether we like it or not? -Ed SLiP "into whatever you want to. You are free." [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: Colin Blakeman II Date: Fri, 26 Mar 93 12:33:23 GMT Subject: Re: hardcore > > in reference to hardcore, i've heard from people around the net and > everywhere when i was in ny and dc, that the track is better based on how hard > and evil it is...that a really good track is tagged with the comment- this will > hurt you. > > this is very frightening. isn't there enough evil, hate, and anger in the world? > > i'd like to hear from some of the hardcore fans out there, *honestly* why you > like this style of music, and why the music must accompanied by such an attitude! > > Sorry about the short posting but Im in the middle of "project deadline hell", but I had to react to this posting. *I JUST CANNOT BELIEVE IT!* Im a Euro (UK actually) and have been a hardcore raver (plus I DJ) for quite a while now. I just cannot comprehend how the ny and dc people and the other people you mention have perverted and mutated the feeling/attitude that goes with Hardcore. I just *LOVE* the music but its the love/peace/happiness/unity scene that goes with hardcore/rave music that really gets me going. Maybe hardcore music in the states is something different to hardcore in England, but if its not - im SHOCKED! I was planning on visiting a few raves in the states on my summer hols this year but if this is the attitude - forget it ! :-( God I *hate* bad vibes. Ok back to work ... Cheers, Colin _______________________________________________________________________________ [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1993 08:50:08 -0500 From: Todd Tibbetts Subject: Re: CT clubs On Thu, 25-Mar-1993, efreeman@RA.DEPT.CS.YALE.EDU (Eric Freeman) said: > BAR and Tune-INN are still in action on Saturday nights. > > I haven't been to Tune-INN in a long time so I can't comment. Tune-INN is supposed to have a full blown rave on April 10. 11pm-8am. Should be cool. tt [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 26 Mar 1993 10:45:21 -0400 (EDT) From: DJESRANI@CENTER.COLGATE.EDU Subject: Tribal Music.. I don't think I could give you a textbook definition of 'tribal music', but I can tell you what it means to me.. I often think of tribal techno as dance music which is extremely percussive, rather than melodic. In fact, a lot of 'tribal' records I've heard keep the musical elements to a minimum. Tribal techno (I think) originated from something called 'tribal house', which seemed to be characteized by a really 'swingy' feel, and rhythmic chanting. I think all this crazy log-drum, tabla, timbale, and bongo shit is a relatively new development.. (PS. 'tribal house' was really big a couple of years ago..) As far as musical examples are concerned, check out Ohm's 'Tribal Tone' on Hubba Hubba Records, Capricorn's '20Hz' (I think this is REALLY tribal, although a lot of the track doesn't apply to my definition.. It's got a real primal feel to it..), 'Bongo Massive' by Pascal.. There are so many of them. The Hunter - 'Herbal Infusion' (I think this one's kinda old, but it's really good.) Oh! A really early example of tribal techno is 'Voodoo Ray' by A Guy Called Gerald, released domestically on Warlock. I hope that gives you some idea of what tribal music is like. Lately though, the style 'boundaries' between tribal and progressive house have been really blurry.. Darshan .djesrani@center.colgate.edu .end [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Fri, 26 Mar 93 10:35 EST From: laura@usl.com Subject: Re: hardcore Shannon writes: >in reference to hardcore, i've heard from people around the net and >everywhere when i was in ny and dc, that the track is better based on how hard >and evil it is...that a really good track is tagged with the comment- this will >hurt you. The "t*h*i*s*w*i*l*l*h*u*r*t*y*o*u" comment I made was actually an inside joke between me, Ed, and Eileen, in reference to a Ren & Stimpy episode. It's the episode where Ren and Stimpy join the army. Ren is in reading the eye chart during his physical, and instead of it being the regular eye chart, it looks more like this: T HIS WILLH URTYOU >this is very frightening. isn't there enough evil, hate, and anger in the >world? So, should I stop watching Ren & Stimpy? Oh, I'm *so sorry* you are frightened. Get a grip, Shannon. You know me, you've met me in person. You know I am a kind, sweet, generous person. I can't believe you can't seperate a little descriptive hyperbole from the real world. >i'd like to hear from some of the hardcore fans out there, *honestly* why you >like this style of music, and why the music must accompanied by such an >attitude! What attitude? You know some of the biggest hardcore fans on ne-raves: Ed, Eileen, me, Dave. Are we mean and nasty? Do we hate people? No. The way we describe hardcore is just with JARGON. Kind of like saying "wow man, this track is so **bad**" when you mean it's really really amazingly good. >i understand why ny and dc would naturally be centers for this style of music, >the cities being little more than urban war zones. and that by living there, >you are surrounded by violence and anger, the coldness of greedy bussiness >and it's minions, the GO GO GO attitude towards life and work, and the fast >pace of everything. there is a very strong feeling of evil there. Have you ever lived in the New York or DC areas? I have lived in both of these areas. My liking of hardcore has nothing to do with where I live. Trying to write off my personal taste with "well, I guess it's because you live in the nasty icky evil city" is naieve and downright insulting. >but why go along with it? new york can also be a very beautiful place, full >of a wealth of art and culture, parks and coffee shops, etc. why not spread >this vibe instead of driving the feeling deeper into the darkness? New York is wonderful in many ways. I've lived here for nearly six years. The fact that it has parks and art and all has nothing to do with my personal taste in music. And I most certainly don't go around being evil to people. And my listening to hardcore doesn't make me want to kill. It just makes me want to dance. >i used to be an industrial punk a number of years ago, the power and fury of >the music really turned me on. i was really into hardcore street rap, too. >again, it was the anger and fury, and a shit load of attitude. READ THE FOLLOWING VERY CAREFULLY: The above paragraph -- that you yourself wrote -- exactly describes the difference between the hardcore techno scene and the industrial/street rap scene. Whereas the music from these scenes was angry and had angry lyrics and was about expressing anger and getting back at people and exposing hate and disrespect, hardcore techno is just about NOISE. That's all it is. NOISE NOISE NOISE NOISE. Pushing your instruments beyond what their inventors had ever imagined. Generating huge amounts of energy. Creating an atmosphere where you can release internal energy -- both good and bad energies -- without hurting anyone or anything. It's not about being turned on by power and fury, it's about cleansing yourself of fury through communing with a big booming bass. >but i am not a big guy. there was no muscle or gun to back up that front. i'd >always just end up getting bashed up in the pits, though addmitedly, i had fun >doing it. but what was the point? how was i growing from the experience or the >feeling? i wasn't i was going backwards, it was the human as an animal, as a >predator and an ego, that was feeding off this feeling. my mind and spirit were >dead to the world. Well, that was your experience in the industrial scene, which is different from my experience in a different (hardcore techno) scene. I'm not very big either (well, body mass aside, but anyway). There have been no pits at any of the good hardcore events I've been to. There's been no attitude that I'm aware of. It's actually been a very uplifting, close and loving experience for me. While I'm dancing away to 150 or so bpm of wild acid noises and buzzing analogue synths and huge kick drums, I absorb the energy of the music. My mind opens and I pretty much meditate on things. Or, even better than that, my mind totally frees itself and I become just a body moving in space, free of all earthly concerns, and I can look down at what's been bothering my in my life and feel very objective about it. It takes hardcore techno to get me to do this, I just can't achieve this to breakbeat or even trance -- not unless I've had the hardcore first. You should have seen Dave, Jessica, Dave's friend Chris, and myself at Atlantis during the hardcore sets. Every so often we'd spontaneously have a group hug (including other bass bin worshipers we don't even know) and dance together holding each other for a few moments, and then spin off into another ecstatic frenzy. Or at WHY: Eileen and I would hear a particularly good hardcore track, and grab each other and hug and scream with glee. And afterward, when we were all pleasantly tired, we all looked at each other and said "wow that was great. I am so happy." >i don't want this all to sound like a born-again christian bullshit story, i >just want to know if these are some similar feelings to what some of you have >experienced or are experiencing when you listen to hardcore. Nope, not one tiny bit. I think that it's just that the hardcore techno scene doesn't suit you at all, and as such, you have a more difficult time understanding it. >anyway, the phase only lasted less than a year, and after too many sprained >ankles and bruises, and after the attitude of it all, and the mysogyny of rap >disgusted me...it all drove me away from those feelings. No bruises, no sprains, no nothing. The only mysogynistic hardcore track I've encountered is Rotterdam Termination Source's "No Women Allowed," which is just one song and hardly indicative of widespread dislike of women in the scene. >why should we allow these feelings to continue? BECAUSE WE HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO FEEL THE WAY WE WANT. ONCE YOU START DICTATING WHAT IS "PROPER" RAVEY FEELINGS, YOU'VE BECOME SOME SORT OF ATTITUDINAL FASCIST JERK. Another Ren & Stimpy quote, this from the episode "Stimpy's Invention" where Stimpy was worried that Ren seemed sad all the time. So, Stimpy invented a "happy helmet" that made it's wearer happy all the time. Stimpy says, explaining how the helmet works to Ren: "And with this button I control how happy you are." Right, like I want someone else to determine what is proper happiness for me. More than that, the feelings all the hardcore lovers I know have aren't at all like the feelings you've discussed here. >happy house, poppy breakbeat, and mind-soaring ambient for all... BULLSHIT. Are you scared of the dark? There is dark in everyone and we must attend to this dark lest it sneak up on us and take us over when we aren't looking. Hiding in happiness will only work for so long. Holding the dark in leads to violence. Or at least, that's what I believe. Peace and love and the 909 drum that is the echo of the Big Bang, Laura [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Fri, 26 Mar 93 10:43 EST From: laura@usl.com Subject: Re: hardcore Will-E wrote: >next up: New York devil worshippers hold a black mass in the form of a >hardcore rave to summon Satan and bring evil and doom upon the world at >the next full moon! Oprah and Geraldo will telecast live! And DJs on the night will be: Mr. Sparkle Dave, the Reverend Hardcore Thirteen Jughead SLiP will finish off with some lovely trance because, once we've gotten the gunk and energy out, we'll need it. Laura [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Fri, 26 Mar 93 10:52 EST From: laura@usl.com Subject: re: hardcore Michael (Inhuman) writes: >The only thing I don't like about hardcore >is the typical crowd it attracts. It sure would be nice to have a no >attitude hardcore rave...(hey, sunshine! hmmm...) The only attitude I've ever seen in the hardcore scene, aside from the Groove Records Posse, has been as a backlash against the over-simplified- be-happy-or-else-luvvy-duvvy raver types. Laura [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Fri, 26 Mar 93 11:22 EST From: laura@usl.com Subject: Getting to the Point Shannon continues: >well, i wrote another long piece about how important i thought it was to spread >a positive vibe and be blissful whenever we can despite this really evil place >we live in...and how music seems to be such an effective way to do this and >make people smile at one another... This is true. And hardcore is one form of music that acomplishes this, no matter what you happen to think. >but then i erased it because i've begun to think that maybe i've been making a >fool of myself because there aren't that many people out there who really take >the subject of this list that seriously. just another mailing list. another >means of computer communication and information data processing... The "subject of this list" is to exchange information about raves and raving, in case you've forgotten. >i've been told i'm taking this "scene" way too seriously. what is too serious? It is "too serious" when you (a) start dictating to the rest of us how we should feel and what we should like and (b) can't deal with any form of dissent because it gets in the way of your vision of how things "should be" >is that sooo serious that it starts to get in the way of the "real world"? >"wake up!" should i smell the coffee? look around me and see that everything >isn't love and daisies? Yep, you got it. >get my shit together and climb that ladder of amerikkka? Well, I don't know if I'd go *that* far! Deviance is fun, compliance is fascism. >well...i've been "blessed" with a taste of the "real world", it sucks. i like >to have as minimal an interface with it as possible. granted, having been >homeless for a portion of my life does wonders for my attitude.and looking >around at all these go-getters at this school, who are frantically trying to >make it in the real world, but they're so spiritually void, and emotionally >blank or total psychos. is the "real world" such a good thing? Yes. Because the real world is all we have when you get right down to it. I'm sorry you life was bad before, that you had to experience being homeless. However, the fact that you had all these painful experiences gives you no right to claim that submerging yourself in some artifical world of happiness and "luv" of your own devising is the solution for anyone. >anyway, there's a lot of stuff that i'd like to say but i remind myself that >mailing lists are not for emotional expression, but for information >distribution. fucking cold. everything around us tries to suppress emotion and >homogonize the spirit. Oh fuck you. You are being such a little wimpy twerp at this moment. Look, you can say what you want to say if you want to -- we're discussing fundamental attitudes toward hardcore and the rave scene, not your fucking GPA and how your girlfriend keeps dissing you and that you are only happy when you are with your other luvvy duvvy ravey pals. THAT is the emotionalism some of us were objecting to before: this "ask Ann Landers" type of stuff -- the "should I stay in school or what" questions that were flying around earlier this year. >i want to thank those who responded to my query about hardcore, i'm trying to >understand. i know it's probably me. it's just the way the sound makes me feel >is not at all happy. not to mention that most of it is really annoying >music annyway... You're welcome. It's a difficult thing to understand, this love of hardcore that some of us have. And if you don't like it, that's fine. Just don't insinuate that we're any less peaceful or ravey or happy or well-adjusted than you are because of our tastes in music. And get it straight: the hardcore is annoying TO YOU. >is there anyone out there who feels that raving and similar activities (people >of all kinds brought together in peace through music and dance) is one of- if >not the most important thing in their lives? The most important thing in my life is building up a network of friends who I love and who love me. Who I can depend on, have fun with, get through bad times with, and who will reach out to me in the same way. After that I'd say "financial stability" comes next. I'm 28 and have to look totally out for myself, you know. Third down on the list comes my ballroom dancing. I'm doing well with it and I'd like someday to be able to compete on the highest levels (world championiships and all). Then there's writing: I love to write, and am so happy for the opportunity to write for _Fuzzy Logik_. Raving is just something my freinds and I like to do because it's a great way to have fun without suffering from club attitude. I believe that the fact that raving promotes togetherness and spiritual growth is a wonderful by-prodcut, but NOT THE RAISON D'ETRE (did I spell that right) OF RAVING. And, I don't know if you've noticed this or not, but from what I've seen raving is pretty damn white-bread. There aren't "people of all kinds" being brought together. Look at your beloved Loft: the VAST majority of people on the "house" floor are black, and the VAST majority of people on the "techno" floor are white. Look at the raves themselves: it's a bunch of white kids having fun. We go to our parties, we do our dancing, we take our drugs, we have fun, we go home. There is nothing in this that is changing the world that I can see. Oh sure, some money from the raves is given to charity, but this is akin to those horrendous $1000 a head dinners the rich white society types throw in Art Museums. You know, the parties where the likes of Rupert Murdock, Laurence Tisch, and other big name businessmen socialize yet still feel like they're doing something constructive. It's all a big lie: they give their money so they don't have to get down in the smelly streets with the rest of us. I like raves the way they are, I just get mad when people delude themselves about what's really going on. Laura [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Fri, 26 Mar 93 10:52 EST From: laura@usl.com Subject: re: hardcore Michael (Inhuman) writes: >The only thing I don't like about hardcore >is the typical crowd it attracts. It sure would be nice to have a no >attitude hardcore rave...(hey, sunshine! hmmm...) The only attitude I've ever seen in the hardcore scene, aside from the Groove Records Posse, has been as a backlash against the over-simplified- be-happy-or-else-luvvy-duvvy raver types. Laura [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: Jesse Brook McCune Subject: my POINT... Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1993 12:12:27 -0500 (EST) I like happy house, breakbeat, tribal, trance, ambient, acid, and yes...even hardcore...personally I prefer to listen to tribal, happy house, and happy breakbeat when I want to dance because that's what I'm into...I like bouncing around and smiling from ear to ear as the little angel-like voices whisper sweet nothings to me...but hey, that's just me... I have no problem with people discussing their views on music, as I just did, but I DO have a problem with people cutting down each other and DEMANDING that others like the same things they do...I am putting the blame on several people here, and you know who you are...this is NOT something that belongs on the list...if you are going to get emotional about it, post it to people individually...if you can be objective about it, then tell me...I am interested ... that's all I'm going to say...please knock it off, and if you're going to flame ME for this, please do it to me ONLY!...thank you! bye Live on...love on...rave on... -Sunshine ============================================================================== | I am Sunshine... || I am the boy who made her heart || Jesse B McCune | | @ @ || feel happy, and shines like the sun! || WPI Box 609 | | \_/ ||======================================|| Worcester, MA | | on a cloudy day! || mccune@wpi.wpi.edu PH#:(508)791-3345 || 01609 | ============================================================================== I NEEEEEEEEEEED your lovin'... [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1993 12:18:09 -0500 (EST) From: Alan Michael Parry Subject: Beautiful Sunshine!! Wow! what a beautiful day it is.... Seems like the AU people had a window into the future.. SUNSHINE!!! _ (_ ( ( ) ( _( ( (_ (_) ) (_) [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 26 Mar 93 11:55:00 EST From: "John Speakman" Subject: ambient [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] >From: J.D.Crawley@ACOUSTICS.SALFORD.AC.UK >Subject: ambient nites in U.K. >3rd april - warp party sheffield , tickets only > dj's alex patterson , aphex twin , black dog >30th april - universe , 8pm-9am , wiltshire > ambient djs - aphex twin , irrestible force >18th april - orb tour , brixton , dj aphex twin . > all you septic tanks can't go > hardy har ha Boo! >From: Terre Thaemlitz >Subject: New Ambient Nite in NYC >Eight Ball Studios (Jorio, etc.) and some old timers from the Loft scene will >be starting a Sunday ambient night as of this weekend (Sunday, March 28). The >studio is located on the Lower East Side, 9th St. between 3rd & 4th Aves. $4 >admission, most likely BYOB. Starts around 10pm. This first time will probably >only have 2 forward turntables, one reverse, and effectors. The concept is to >have it grow w/time. This will be a more deep house and jazz influenced >ambient scene, not techno-ambient. Hope to see some netters there! Hmmm... John ps: it's a nice day today. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: Jesse Brook McCune Subject: Re: Beautiful Sunshine!! Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1993 12:39:19 -0500 (EST) Thanks Fluid...I think you're beautiful, too... :) Live on...love on...rave on... -Sunshine ============================================================================== | I am Sunshine... || I am the boy who made her heart || Jesse B McCune | | @ @ || feel happy, and shines like the sun! || WPI Box 609 | | \_/ ||======================================|| Worcester, MA | | on a cloudy day! || mccune@wpi.wpi.edu PH#:(508)791-3345 || 01609 | ============================================================================== I NEEEEEEEEEEED your lovin'... [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1993 13:45:09 -0500 (EST) From: Alan Michael Parry Subject: Re: ambient On 26 Mar 1993, John Speakman wrote: > >From the klf/orb mailing list: > >From: J.D.Crawley@ACOUSTICS.SALFORD.AC.UK > >Subject: ambient nites in U.K. > >3rd april - warp party sheffield UK, tickets only > >^^^^^^^^ dj's alex patterson , aphex twin , black dog ^^^^^^^^^^ Where will Richard Be? US (future) of UK (Sheffield)?????? The controversy conttinues.... --Fluid [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Fri, 26 Mar 93 14:19 EST From: laura@usl.com Subject: STOP IT FOR GOD'S SAKE. Okay kiddies. I'm sorry I said "Fuck you" to Shannon. Stop sending me mail telling me to be more polite etc etc etc. I'm just sick of some of the whiney tones of argument that goes on around here. I'll try to be more polite in the future, it certainly wouldn't hurt. HOWEVER, I still stand by everything *else* I said. If you're willing to let one "fuck you" out of my mouth ruin your opinion of me, then that's your loss. So many of you know me in person and know that I'm actually very nice, sweet, loving, and giving. I just get teed off sometimes, and Shannon has a history of being able to push my buttons. Now go worry about something more important than my bad language, okay? Laura [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: Jesse Brook McCune Subject: Re: STOP IT FOR GOD'S SAKE. Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1993 15:25:05 -0500 (EST) fuck you! :P -Sunshine (still shining through all the smog) [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Subject: Re: hardcore From: Rob H Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1993 15:47:02 -0500 Why hardcore? It's energetic, hypontic, and trancey -- perfect for dancing. Anyways, speaking of hardcore, can anyone recommend anything on CD that's like the stuff on the OverDrive CDs? For those who don't have these, I *highly* recommend them... Thanks, Rob rhwang@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1993 16:37 EDT From: ST890259@PIP.CC.BRANDEIS.EDU Subject: message to Shannon From: IN%"sscoen@Athena.MIT.EDU" "SHALAKO" 26-MAR-1993 02:55:06.87 To: IN%"ne-raves@gnu.ai.mit.edu" CC: Subj: Received: from geech.gnu.ai.mit.edu by PIP.CC.BRANDEIS.EDU (PMDF #12080) id <01GW8YM6JMA8001AB6@PIP.CC.BRANDEIS.EDU>; Fri, 26 Mar 1993 02:54 EDT Received: from ATHENA-AS-WELL.MIT.EDU by geech.gnu.ai.mit.edu (5.65/4.0) with SMTP id ; Fri, 26 Mar 93 02:35:18 -0500 Received: from W20-575-86.MIT.EDU by Athena.MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA02575; Fri, 26 Mar 93 02:35:12 EST Received: by w20-575-86 (5.57/4.7) id AA18500; Fri, 26 Mar 93 02:35:11 -0500 Date: Fri, 26 Mar 93 02:35:10 EST From: SHALAKO (technokachina) To: ne-raves@gnu.ai.mit.edu Message-id: <9303260735.AA18500@w20-575-86> well, i wrote another long piece about how important i thought it was to spread a positive vibe and be blissful whenever we can despite this really evil place we live in...and how music seems to be such an effective way to do this and make people smile at one another... but then i erased it because i've begun to think that maybe i've been making a fool of myself because there aren't that many people out there who really take the subject of this list that seriously. just another mailing list. another means of computer communication and information data processing... i've been told i'm taking this "scene" way too seriously. what is too serious? is that sooo serious that it starts to get in the way of the "real world"? "wake up!" should i smell the coffee? look around me and see that everything isn't love and daisies? get my shit together and climb that ladder of amerikkka? well...i've been "blessed" with a taste of the "real world", it sucks. i like to have as minimal an interface with it as possible. granted, having been homeless for a portion of my life does wonders for my attitude.and looking around at all these go-getters at this school, who are frantically trying to make it in the real world, but they're so spiritually void, and emotionally blank or total psychos. is the "real world" such a good thing? anyway, there's a lot of stuff that i'd like to say but i remind myself that mailing lists are not for emotional expression, but for information distribution. fucking cold. everything around us tries to suppress emotion and homogonize the spirit. i want to thank those who responded to my query about hardcore, i'm trying to understand. i know it's probably me. it's just the way the sound makes me feel is not at all happy. not to mention that most of it is really annoying music annyway... is there anyone out there who feels that raving and similar activities (people of all kinds brought together in peace through music and dance) is one of- if not the most important thing in their lives? shannon. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: pashdown@slack.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown) Subject: Blurttt Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1993 14:45:39 -0700 (MST) Why just hardcore? Why do people and DJs limit themselves to one "sound"? Recently, I've been playing everything from Mesculinum United to Winnie the Pooh to Tommy Dorsey to Banco de Gaia in one sitting. As Circuit Breaker says, "Open Your Mind". As we like to say here, "Free Your Mind and Your Body Will Boogie". [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Fri, 26 Mar 93 17:49:06 -0500 From: jna@silver.lcs.mit.edu (Room off the street) Subject: Re: hardcore I like hardcore because I disklike cheezy house music; I think breakbeat can be put together by anyone with $50 to spend on a "breaks beats and samples" CD in keyboard magazine, because it scares the living fuck out of 95% of the Boston ""raver"" crowd. I've grown very old and very tired of the scene; All the music begins to swirl into one gigantic blur, and if it's going to be that way, then I'm going to listen to hardcore. Half the people in the "rave" (must i use that word?) scene dont' practice what they preach about peace,love, and unity , and serve nothing more but to follow an even bigger trend than think and work as individuals. It's not because of a geographical location that hardcore is wonderful, its the power and energy behind the music. I Don't get a feeling of power or force in house/breakbeat. It's difficult to dance to it, because the beats are scattered. Hardcore is powerful, mesmerizing, and forceful. Sort of a kick in the face. and that's the type of person that I am. Individual, strong and forceful. Not : Weak, scattered, and unintelligable. -john [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1993 17:49:16 -0500 From: Dan English Subject: boston scene defense [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] I personally believe the non-existence of a hardcore scene in Boston has to do with it's ultratrendy, dead and depressing mindlessness. There is no diversity in thought or style. Ravers in Boston, it seems, must love progressive house, and love waiting through six hours of asshole crowds at the Loft to hear it, to have their due. Boston needs someone to shake it up. It needs more clubs, and a greater diversity of musical styles. Even breakbeat has become musica non grata there, which pisses me to no end. House is good, but only house?! That's pointless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ohhhh, now ya did it. from someone who has been into the techno scene in boston from day one, this is wrong wrong wrong. there was old school hardcore in boston. we took buses to storm raves, and loved it. loved that hardcore. now, most of the dj's spin housey stuff, on the techno side. i for one love it, and my tastes have changes right along with the tastes of the dj's here. so great for me. the point is that there is not mindlessness about music here. the dj's have a right to play whatever they want to, and yes, we do need more clubs. but the reason the boston scene is so excellent is not because we put on huge raves, but because we are an educated community of ravers who all stick together. there are a lot of people on boston who were raving before ant of us heard about it. we saw the scenes develope and some of them fail. we learned from the mistakes of others. and we are not all that trendy. look for trendy in NY or DC raves. in boston the freaks are in the scene right along side the fresh jivies. most people dont dress up to go to clubs anymore than tyhey would to go to school. some dress down. o.k. i am totally defensive about the boston scene. but thats because i have come to know almost everyone in it and have 0 enemies. i don't believe that my opinions are right as far as house being the best, but i know that i can get along with anyone, no matter what they think. i don't believe that flaming someone will solve anything, or punching them or killing them. * stay groovy. camper english it ain't easy, being cheesey @buphy.bu.edu [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1993 17:55:28 -0500 From: Dan English Subject: sociological analysis of the rave scene in my sociology class, we are studying the theory that most of the problems in american society come from the gap between the stratified, beaurocratic way that society is, and the ideals that everyone has for unity and togetherness and equality, etc. think of the rave scene. if the real world was super peachy keen, we wouldnt need be so escapist. however, retreating entirely into the rave scene is running away from problems. my personal solution to this is to use the idealogy of the rave scene in real life, whenever possible. that doesnt work everywhere, and you've gotta know when you can use it. i gop oiut now about 4 or 5 nights a week, not as an escape from my life, but as a reward for doing well in it; like finishing my homework or strudying early. and since i am such a good boy, io get to go out all the time. just some thoughts. talk amongst yourselves. heres a topic. -camper. * stay groovy. camper english it ain't easy, being cheesey @buphy.bu.edu [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Fri, 26 Mar 93 15:04:33 -0800 From: diva@uclink.berkeley.edu (Leah Jane Reich) Subject: holy shit okay okay.... I've been sitting back reading all these posts and flames and shit.... and I know I'm all the way on the other side of the country, but I'd really like to say something. this is directed at no one... just a general comment whatever is bothering all of you, perhaps you should get it out - after reading all of the posts, it is obvious that there is an underlying problem, more than just "I like hardcore" and "well, I think it sucks big dick". I can understand posting an opinion and disagreeing with someone else, but fer christ's sake, chill! I am not telling anyone to be polite or to keep their mouths shut - don't flame me for trying to be a censor (I AM NOT! =). I'm just saying that perhaps we should all think before we make a post - some are more sensitive than others. I know this may be a useless post, but it really made me sad to see a lot of what was written. if you've got an opinion, say it, but also think of the possiblity of hurting other people. from the people I've talked to and become friends with to the random posts I've seen, I've come to the conclusion that you are a wonderful group (almost typed goop there =) of people. of course you are going to have disagreements. just remember that the little "harmless" nasty comments are what start the bigger problems. and that's what destroys communities and scenes. you've got a great scene, a lot if it is just starting - let it thrive on the happiness you've all written about. that's what this is all about - caring, right? and for anyone who wants to tell me, "w'hell leah, I'm only human, I'm gonna get mad at people," just remember that whoever you are getting mad at is human to. respect is the bottom line. without respect, where the hell are we? post an opinion, and respect others as you want yours to be. I think you are all great - don't start falling apart on me. too many scenes already have. I'll shut the hell up now. =) have a delicious day everyone... maybe we should have raves where everyone brings walkmans and there are different djs on different radio stations spinning different music... and we can all dance together and just switch stations depending on our moods... heh heh =) take it easy everyone - love and hugs to all always, leah [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Fri, 26 Mar 93 15:13:44 PST From: mw@sybase.com (Michael Wertheim) Subject: Re: hardcore > Is there anything else on the _Trance_ comp. that is considered tribal? No. > Any other tunes I should look out for? Jambo: "Drum Attack" Studio X: "Join the Tribe" (b-side of "Los Kings del Mambo") The Baha Men: "Back to the Island" Ultraviolet Catastrophe: "Trip Harder" (b-side of "The Trip") Renegade Soundwave: "The Phantom" Anything by the Psychick Warriors of Gaia [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Fri, 26 Mar 93 18:16:26 -0500 From: jna@silver.lcs.mit.edu (hardcore!) Subject: re:hardcore SHALAKO (technokachina) wrote: >but then i erased it because i've begun to think that maybe i've been making a >fool of myself because there aren't that many people out there who really take >the subject of this list that seriously. just another mailing list. another >means of computer communication and information data processing... Seems that most of the people on this list seem to take it far too seriously. but, far be it from me to take away that, because that was it's original intention. To give people a place to be heard and a place to communicate, with a higher S/N ratio than alt.rave... >i've been told i'm taking this "scene" way too seriously. what is too serious? >is that sooo serious that it starts to get in the way of the "real world"? >"wake up!" should i smell the coffee? look around me and see that everything >isn't love and daisies? get my shit together and climb that ladder of >amerikkka? Completely possible. Anyone can lose themselves in anything that they desire; losing touch with reality becomes a rational escape, but when taken too far, it could interfere with long-term/life-time goals (Ravers, ask yourself that: "Do I have any long-term goals , or am I going to keep dancing forever and taking drugs forever in a shameless attempt to feel happy?") >these go-getters at this school, who are frantically trying to make it in the >real world, but they're so spiritually void, and emotionally blank or total >psychos. is the "real world" such a good thing? What do you want from MIT. Socially inept people with ultra-high IQ's, and a vast majority of randoms (like myself) who feel nothing more but a quest for continous knowledge... >anyway, there's a lot of stuff that i'd like to say but i remind myself that >mailing lists are not for emotional expression, but for information >distribution. fucking cold. everything around us tries to suppress emotion and >homogonize the spirit. No, not so. People do not wish to be the social and emotional crutches for the rest of society. Members of a society must learn to be self-sufficent. If everything stood to support itself, Where would the foundation be? >understand. i know it's probably me. it's just the way the sound makes me feel >is not at all happy. not to mention that most of it is really annoying >music annyway... Music does evoke emotions. that's what it's there for. Again, not your fault. >is there anyone out there who feels that raving and similar activities (people >of all kinds brought together in peace through music and dance) is one of- if >not the most important thing in their lives? What's going to happen in 5 months? in 10? in a year? when raving is over and done with? What will you do then? You have to have fun and you have to think realsticially. --john [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Fri, 26 Mar 93 18:26:34 -0500 From: jna@silver.lcs.mit.edu (get me off of this english roundabout) Subject: Re: boston scene defense Camper: I tottally agree with you 10000000% percent... The Old-school boston/hardcore/let's take a bus to NYC scene was beautiful, something we'll never see again because the scene has failed around here... -john [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Fri, 26 Mar 93 15:53:01 PST From: mw@sybase.com (Michael Wertheim) Subject: Re: hardcore > It's not because of a geographical location that hardcore > is wonderful Yes it is. In SF (oh no, not again...), there is a distinct correlation between the type of music played at a rave and the vibe. Hardcore and breakbeat for some reason attract the *worst* crowds. Two weeks ago I accidentally ended up at a hardcore rave, and it truly was the worst rave I have ever been to. Just about every person there looked completely lost, like they had heard that raves were real hip places to go and were wondering what the big deal was. The music was loud and fast (and I actually liked quite a bit of it), but there was no energy on the dance floor. And to top it all off, at least 80% of the people had gone home by 5am. My friend and I left the rave saying, "you know -- we could throw a better rave without even trying." (And we might.) Compare that to Taylor's description of Connection II, or to Inhuman's description of the Full Moon Rave. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1993 19:28:36 -0500 (EST) From: Matthew Donald Drown Subject: Slam, Fuck You, and Hardcore I can't help it... :) First. Here is my Flame to all you whiners: FFFFFF k Y Y F k Y Y F k Y Y F u u ccc k k Y Y ooo u u FFFF u u c c k k YYY o o u u F u u c k k Y o o u u F u u c kkk Y o o u u F u u c k k Y o o u u F u uu c c k k Y o o u uu F uuu u ccc k k Y ooo uuu u Second. I will still try to slam at raves, I will try to slam into as many people as possible, and try to slam into the dj's or at least the turntables also (If I can wear spiked stuff, with big combat boots, this would be even better). This should make 909 Hardcore easier to listen to. And it would also make House easier to listen to. Third. This is a just another "get a life" post. Anybody taking this seriously should be taken out and shot. -Matt (The Invincible Slammer)[Who can Dance, but like to slam also] This is Sarcasm for those who are lacking in this. :) :) :) Seriously. Listen to what you like. Expect others to like other music. Period. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 26-MAR-1993 20:34:55.82 From: sparklE Subject: Re: Getting to the Point >And, I don't know if you've noticed this or not, but from what I've seen >raving is pretty damn white-bread. There aren't "people of all kinds" being >brought together. Look at your beloved Loft: the VAST majority of people >on the "house" floor are black, and the VAST majority of people on the >"techno" floor are white. Look at the raves themselves: it's a bunch of >white kids having fun. We go to our parties, we do our dancing, we take our >drugs, we have fun, we go home. There is nothing in this that is changing >the world that I can see. Oh sure, some money from the raves is given to >charity, but this is akin to those horrendous $1000 a head dinners the rich >white society types throw in Art Museums. You know, the parties where >the likes of Rupert Murdock, Laurence Tisch, and other big name businessmen >socialize yet still feel like they're doing something constructive. It's >all a big lie: they give their money so they don't have to get down in >the smelly streets with the rest of us. I like raves the way they are, I >just get mad when people delude themselves about what's really going on. YES YES YES!!!! Finally someone says what I always wanted to say but kept forgetting to :) This peace-love-unity stuff may assauge the guilt of your average Boston raver, because that person is most likely the product of a suburban, white-bread upbringing. Your average raver in New York is more likely to come from New Rochelle than East Brooklyn. This of course has a lot to do with how in the eighties dance music became a very segregated thing, as oppossed to the 70s, early 80s. It is this way because the influence of raves is from Europe and who feels Europe more than suburban Americans... this is not to say that raves and ravers will always be this way, or should only be this way.BUT AT THE PRESENT THIS IS THE REALITY. I would love to see it get better, but deluding ourselves that we have already reached our goal (god i'll puke if i hear that ultratrite saying "raves are where people of all races and cultures get together to boogie") only serves to prove how ignorant we are. Shannon, ignoring reality is pointless. If you associate with people like us who have lives in the real world, you will get pulled in. If you don't like reality, the Mojave Desert awaits. Get a tapedeck and become a hermit. Otherwise, OPEN YOUR MIND. BTW I'd have to say the New York scene is better off than the others in this respect, but Boston is the EPITOMY of upper-middle-class white kids wanting to be clubbers. It is shallow. It is sick. They are deluding themselves. STOP THE PROGRAMMING. START THINKING. __ _ _ _ _ (_ (_) (_) (_) (/ ( (_ __) ( ( ) ( \ (\ (_ (_ hartcoreadrenalinrushvibethrowlustunionpushtwirlcreateventureforth. . [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 26-MAR-1993 20:53:11.76 From: sparklE Subject: Re: boston scene defense >ohhhh, now ya did it. >from someone who has been into the techno scene in boston from day one, >this is wrong wrong wrong. there was old school hardcore in boston. >we took buses to storm raves, and loved it. loved that hardcore. that was then tho! i feel like i missed out on those days too becuz i chose to go to the wrong school. if i had gone to BU i would probably have been on those buses myself. >now, most of the dj's spin housey stuff, on the techno side. i for one >love it, and my tastes have changes right along with the tastes of the >dj's >here. so great for me. > the point is that there is not mindlessness about music here. the dj's >have a right to play whatever they want to, and yes, we do need more >clubs. but the reason the boston scene is so excellent is not because we >put on huge raves, but because we are an educated community of ravers >who all stick together. there are a lot of people on boston who were >raving before ant of us heard about it. we saw the scenes develope and >some of them fail. we learned from the mistakes of others. point. DC's scene is all but dead, more becuz of the Catastrophic group'd dominance and the lack of others to get things going. you dont understand. when i dissed boston's scene it was anguish rather than hate. maybe the ravers stick together, but (is that really true?) what has that produced? ONE CLUB. why with all those people and all that potential havent you got some real scene started?! i WANT a scene in Boston. hell ill probably be going to college there in the near future. >and we are not all that trendy. look for trendy in NY or DC raves. in >boston the freaks are in the scene right along side the fresh jivies. >most people dont dress up to go to clubs anymore than tyhey would to go >to school. some dress down. i must say there is one hope for the rave scene. it definitely started out with many trnedies, but THE FREAKS ARE COMING!!! :) and they will shake shit up >o.k. i am totally defensive about the boston scene. but thats because i >have come to know almost everyone in it and have 0 enemies. i don't >believe that my opinions are right as far as house being the best, but >i know that i can get along with anyone, no matter what they think. >i don't believe that flaming someone will solve anything, or punching >them or killing them. im glad you dont believe that house is god. i dont believe hardcore is god either. i have to remind people that i love every variety and a lot of it. i just go on the defensive of hardcore a lot becuase it gets dissed the most. but seriously camper, this is your opinion. the fact is you have no enemies, but i think it has to do with that it's hard not to get along with you. to compliment you, i think you're a pretty funky happygolucky guy. but i would like to hear from other Boston people. like John Adams... he talked about how 95% of the people cant take hardcore there. Maybe all this is stemming from the failure of hardcore and breakbeat to maintain an underground root in the scene, to avoid being seen as the caricature of techno. but mainly i just wanna say; with all those people, why doesnt Boston have regular parties?! why does every event have to be big, or at a club? the djs can be mobile and play here or there and regularly and for free. now thats unity. i wanna see that. Come on Boston! I'm counting on you!! > * > stay groovy. > camper english it ain't easy, being cheesey @buphy.bu.edu __ _ _ _ _ (_ (_) (_) (_) (/ ( (_ __) ( ( ) ( \ (\ (_ (_ hartcoreadrenalinrushvibethrowlustunionpushtwirlcreateventureforth. . [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Subject: Sunshine V-RAVE connection! From: inhuman@mindvox.phantom.com (Inhuman) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 93 23:30:56 EST hiya all...just want to let you know we will be up at 11 pm est...until the sun rises...the place looks great...and it should be quite exciting... and you can hear all about it if you get on vrave tonight...thanx... partyon...susie (: (i can't even begin to tell you how totally spazzed i am and how beautiful thing has turned out...and how the dc/ne/se people have gelled..whheeeee... ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- Everyone be sure to be on V-RAVE the night of Friday the 26th after midnight or so, EST. We will have a terminal hooked up to v-rave at Sunshine, a little microrave Susie and Doug from AU in Washington DC are putting on. It should be really cool. For those that don't know about v-rave, just telnet sfraves.stanford.edu 7282 Do it now, because your account will have to be validated. It's just an irc-style chatting system. Let's see how many cool vibes we can create at Sunshine! Michael | "I've begun to wonder if we wouldn't (inhuman@mindvox.phantom.com) | also regard spelunkers as desperate | criminals if AT&T owned all the ...trance form...trance send... | caves." --John Perry Barlow [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1993 18:42:35 -0800 (PST) From: Arthur Chandler Subject: Unsubscribe Unsubscribe NE RAVES [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: djm@bedford.progress.COM (Dave McMahon) Subject: Re: Unsubscribe Date: Fri, 26 Mar 93 22:46:11 EST > > Unsubscribe NE RAVES I sincerely hope this is a joke. Absolutely pathetic. It's amazing you can operate an enter key. Hey Arthur, Stay tuned to your mailbox for a LOOOOONG hint. The Common Sense police, dave. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: djm@bedford.progress.COM (Dave McMahon) Subject: Re: hardcore Date: Fri, 26 Mar 93 23:37:05 EST > > It's not because of a geographical location that hardcore > > is wonderful > > Yes it is. In SF (oh no, not again...), there is a distinct > ... > *worst* crowds. Two weeks ago I accidentally ended up at a > hardcore rave, and it truly was the worst rave I have ever > been to. Just about every person there looked completely > lost. [ more stuff about a bad rave ] Ahhhhhhhh.... So THAT's where some people get a bad attitude about hardcore. Dislike by association. I think that some people who are really bothered by hardcore are just letting their prejudices get the best of them. I personally don't see any relevance to "what the crowd was like" during "that" music, unless of course, you're more concerned with the SCENE than the MUSIC. I find that element pretty rampant, however, among some of the people that I've come to know in the last year. My entrance into this world was strictly from a musical perspective. I WAS and AM a... err..umm.. a technophile! Yeah, that' it. A technophile. It's the best word I can think of to describe myself with relevance to this subject. I fell head over heels for a musical style that we all know as HARDCORE. I didn't know anything about the "rave scene". I was curious, but quite frankly could give a shit. I was looking for a place to hear/experience techno (HARDCORE techno) in a place that spoke back to me. This more or less turned out to be Lenny D and a bass bin and nothing more. I had no concept of "scene" or "rave" or any label to describe some sort of group that I felt I had to belong to. I've witnessed an interesting number of people who appear to be more interested in the "scene" and things such as DJ worship that the actual music that they're listening too. I get the feeling that some people would listen to country music if that's what their "favorite DJ" started playing and their "group of friends" started listening to. (HINT: if you think that I'm targetting country music as BAD, then you're missing the point.) This is more or less a spewing of "what this all means to me". I've met a lot of good people and made some good friends within this "scene", but like the music that I enjoy, I take each friend I meet on an individual basis. It's pretty easy to group things together in order to make our lives simpler, but it's each individual thing that shines. What I'm saying is, don't hate HARDCORE because you saw someone mosh to it once or because none of your friends liked it. Open your heart and mind to it and give YOURSELF an honest impression of what IT MEANS TO YOU without all of the OTHER OPINIONS and OUTSIDE FACTORS. If the answer is still "I hate it", then so be it, but these reasons of: my fav DJ isn't playing it, or the strobe was flashing in the sign of the devil at the time I heard it, isn't really being honest with yourself about the music as it stands on its own. BTW, I'm a HARD HOUSE nut too. It just makes me feeeeeel so good. :) dave. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1993 21:17:32 -0800 (PST) From: Arthur Chandler Subject: Re: Unsubscribe Why did you respond in this way? On Fri, 26 Mar 1993, Dave McMahon wrote: > > > > Unsubscribe NE RAVES > > I sincerely hope this is a joke. > > Absolutely pathetic. It's amazing you can operate an enter key. > > Hey Arthur, Stay tuned to your mailbox for a LOOOOONG hint. > > > The Common Sense police, > > dave. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: vitamnlove@aol.com Subject: help Date: Sat, 27 Mar 93 00:23:02 EST dear john or whoever, hi, me again! for some reason I'm still not receiving anything even though you said you subscribed me. It's been a week or so. Please try again or inform me of what's up. Thanks again! Vitamin Love p.s. I may have given a wrong e-mail address. address is VITAMNLOVE@AOL.COM [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu (Brian Behlendorf (Vitamin B)) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1993 03:50:19 -0800 Subject: Re: hardcore >> > It's not because of a geographical location that hardcore >> > is wonderful >> >> Yes it is. In SF (oh no, not again...), there is a distinct >> ... >> *worst* crowds. Two weeks ago I accidentally ended up at a >> hardcore rave, and it truly was the worst rave I have ever >> been to. Just about every person there looked completely >> lost. > >Ahhhhhhhh.... > >I personally don't see any relevance to "what the crowd was like" during "that" >music, unless of course, you're more concerned with the SCENE than the MUSIC. > >I fell head over heels for a musical style that we all know as HARDCORE. >I didn't know anything about the "rave scene". I was curious, but quite >frankly could give a shit. I was looking for a place to hear/experience >techno (HARDCORE techno) in a place that spoke back to me. This more or less >turned out to be Lenny D and a bass bin and nothing more. Some of us do go to raves, though, for more than just the music. If it were just for the music I wouldn't bother to spend $5 to $20 every weekend to enter a smoke-filled room to buy $4 smart drinks and get smeared by sweat from shirtless speedheads, I'd pop in a CD at home and geek on the computer. (Hey, wait, what am I doing right now.... ack!) I go because I want to be around people who make me happy to be there (to oversimplify). I _am_ interested in what sort of crowd gets attracted; not because the crowd is trendy at all (in fact I try to avoid that crowd - quite the paradox, eh?) but because I like being reminded that there is a small hole in the wall of society where people can express themselves (stop me if I start to sound like shannon (sorry shannon! luvzya! :)). The "vibe" of a crowd is something that is important to me, something so thick and real I could cut it with a knife if I wanted. And in San Francisco at least, most of the parties I've been to with hardcore music being played had a vibe which didn't appeal to me. A large share of the people are not dancing, and those who are are lost in the music and totally oblivious to others; no eye contact, no "oops, sorry about stepping on your foot", etc. But this may be an SF thang - I find nothing specific in the music which causes this, except that hardcore tends to attract the speed crowd and all the under-21 people (the latter is an unfortunate consequence of so many good raves happening in 21+ places :(:( ). But I don't doubt that a "happy hardcore" vibe could exist elsewhere. I like hardcore if it's mixed really creatively and changes often; and stupid things like women moaning and "THEES IS DA HAHDKOAH MUTHERFUCKA" style sentences aren't there. >I've witnessed an interesting number of people who appear to be more >interested in the "scene" and things such as DJ worship that the actual music >that they're listening too. I get the feeling that some people would listen >to country music if that's what their "favorite DJ" started playing and their >"group of friends" started listening to. Being around friends is definitely important to me, not because I'm vain or insecure but if I find something I like I want as many other people out there to be in on it :) And if I say S.F. dj Garth is God, which he is, that doesn't mean if he suddenly changes his last name to BROOKS I'll throw out my Ameba cap and buy a ten-gallon :) >This is more or less a spewing of "what this all means to me". >I've met a lot of good people and made some good friends within this "scene", >but like the music that I enjoy, I take each friend I meet on an individual >basis. It's pretty easy to group things together in order to make our lives >simpler, but it's each individual thing that shines. Well put. >What I'm saying is, don't hate HARDCORE because you saw someone mosh to it >once or because none of your friends liked it. Agreed. But I _am_ allowed to not like it because it doesn't create a vibe, am I? (same reason I don't like alcohol, nitrous, and speed). >Open your heart and mind to it and give YOURSELF an honest impression of what >IT MEANS TO YOU without all of the OTHER OPINIONS and OUTSIDE FACTORS. This is a good sentiment but next to impossible. We don't live in a vacuum - our life experience has been formed by responding to the actions and thoughts of others. Ask any DJ when he's buying music what he likes about that record he's likely to buy, and most will reply, "It's great - it's gonna floor people, especially if I mix into it from ..." It's all subjective. But hopefully I can have enough freedom to say, "I like James Brown is Dead so pbpbpbptttt!" (which I do - the most wicked bassline I've probably ever heard). Brian [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1993 10:47:16 -0500 From: wolf@newfoundland.rs.itd.umich.edu (Frederick W. 747-2933) Subject: Re: hardcore ah, this discussion is proof to me of the diversity of opinion represented by the subscribers of this list. Long live disagreement! relax! and enjoy! ciao - fred [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: dionf@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Francois Dion) Subject: Re: Visuals - fractals Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1993 14:31:50 -0500 (EST) Beyond the ultraworld of N. E. Tableman; I want information autonomy!: > > I recently help put together an incredibly cool visual effect. > > The parts needed are a VGA overhead projector attachment to a PC > and a PC of course. I've been doing that but in a different way: a Sharp projector connected to a video mixer with 2 videos and a computer + vga to ntsc converter It gives the best 100 inch screen you can get. > The program included the Mandelbrot and Newton sets, color cycling and > alternating back and forth at random rates. Even better are moving plasmas... > The equipment needed for this is quite expensive, but it looks incredible! Very true! Ciao, -- Francois Dion ' _ _ _ CISM (_) (_) _) FM Montreal , Canada Email: CISM@ERE.UMontreal.CA (_) / . _) 10000 Watts Telephone no: (514) 343-7511 _______________________________________________________________________________ Audio-C-DJ-Fractals-Future-Label-Multimedia-Music-Radio-Rave-Video-VR-Volvo-... [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: dionf@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Francois Dion) Subject: Re: new 808 any good? Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1993 15:40:11 -0500 (EST) Beyond the ultraworld of Matthew S Macqueen: > > Hi > I know that it's not NEW anymore, but could someone give me their opinion of > the recent disk by 808 State. I really liked the "Pacific" and "In Yo' Face" > singles, but as a disk "Ud. State 90" was just kind of, well, OK. > I think it's called "GORGIOUS" It's called Gorgeous. It's a sure bet, yet the sales are slow on this one, so it will remain underground (good thing). I bought it in vinyl cause it came with a bonus 12" with 2 excellent tracks. On the main album you get: Plan 9 (sounds like David Stewart) Moses (New-orderish...) Contrique (again, new-orderish) 10x10 (very housey) Timebomb (I want BASS! Lots of groove) One in ten (with UB40) and on the other side: Europa (dull) Orbit (interesting) Black Morpheus (deep house style) Southern cross (ambient house) Nimbus (i like it) Colony (techno like timebomb, but not as powerful) And the 12" includes: sexy synthesizer femme deluxe lemon purple dust sexy dancer In Montreal, the vinyl was 20$ and the CD 18$, so i guess that it's about 14$ and 12$ in the US. Ciao, -- Francois Dion ' _ _ _ CISM (_) (_) _) FM Montreal , Canada Email: CISM@ERE.UMontreal.CA (_) / . _) 10000 Watts Telephone no: (514) 343-7511 _______________________________________________________________________________ Audio-C-DJ-Fractals-Future-Label-Multimedia-Music-Radio-Rave-Video-VR-Volvo-... [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Sat, 27 Mar 93 16:29:11 -0500 From: cs012093@cs.brown.edu (Keith Dreibelbis) Subject: Ride to dune? Hi, I'm a Brown student and I might be interested in going to the DUNE rave in Pawtucket. Is there anybody that might be able to give me a ride if I decide to go? Please send me personal email, I am not subscribed. Thanks! Keith D cs012093@cs.brown.edu [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: dionf@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Francois Dion) Subject: Boston, Montreal and me.... Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1993 16:40:32 -0500 (EST) I was reaading all my mail (549) and there were lots of messages on each scene. Just for informational use, i want to tell you about the scene here, but also about Boston and what i perceived of it. Boston scene: i didn't get to go to a rave, but went to Venus de Milo and ManRay. It seems that the scene is deep house and trance. I didn't get to hear techno a lot. Even at Manray, where there are two rooms, one was deep house and the other was industrial (body music, industrial dance and some industrial techno). For the record, i enjoyed much more the industrial room... But, back to Montreal: about 9 clubs play deep house, 3 techno, some are combinations house/deep/techno/hip hop etc... But this is totally different from the rave scene which is techno/hardcore/trance and some rare deep house. Venus de Milo is a good image of the 9 deep house clubs (Angel's, Tunnel, Ozone, Royal, Zoobar, Belmont etc...). Now at these places, you will not be feeling what you feel at a rave, because at these places people are not really into the music and dont dance with much conviction. One thing i can say as a DJ is that deep house must be used like building blocks, like hardcore techno. You have to change regularly and after building an expectation, you cannot continue to play a 4 beat loop 64 times. You have to give something to the crowd. I expect it when i dance, and i give it when i DJ. It's the problem with clubs here and it's the problem with the deep house at ManRay and at Venus.The early scene was much better in Montreal and i regret it a lot... Ciao, -- Francois Dion ' _ _ _ CISM (_) (_) _) FM Montreal , Canada Email: CISM@ERE.UMontreal.CA (_) / . _) 10000 Watts Telephone no: (514) 343-7511 _______________________________________________________________________________ Audio-C-DJ-Fractals-Future-Label-Multimedia-Music-Radio-Rave-Video-VR-Volvo-... [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: dionf@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Francois Dion) Subject: and i forgot... Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1993 16:47:09 -0500 (EST) And i forgot: Montreal is not an urban war zone. It's a quiet city (not in the same way as in Boston, where there is nobody on the streets past 1:30) and the rave scene while beeing hardcore oriented (but not limited. I play a lot of styles, because i like the music, not because i'm a trendy) is extremely friendly. Ciao, -- Francois Dion ' _ _ _ CISM (_) (_) _) FM Montreal , Canada Email: CISM@ERE.UMontreal.CA (_) / . _) 10000 Watts Telephone no: (514) 343-7511 _______________________________________________________________________________ Audio-C-DJ-Fractals-Future-Label-Multimedia-Music-Radio-Rave-Video-VR-Volvo-... [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Subject: re: hardcore From: inhuman@mindvox.phantom.com (Inhuman) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 93 16:51:53 EST laura@usl.com writes: > The only attitude I've ever seen in the hardcore scene, aside from the > Groove Records Posse, has been as a backlash against the over-simplified- > be-happy-or-else-luvvy-duvvy raver types. Well, I obviously cannot speak for what you've seen or what the NYC scene is like, but here in DC big raves like Cupid and Catastrophics are becoming new hang-outs for all the "gangsta" types. These guys are the epitome of attitude. They walk in a big line through the dance floor, giving death glares to everyone. If you dance too close to one, he pushes you away (this has happened to me). ("too close", by the way, is about five feet away) None of this was present at Carefree, the new Catastrophic "trance/tribal/house" club. The cool thing was that they played plenty of hardcore, but the usual element that accompanies it was not present, allowing me to really get into it without getting pushed around or glared at. Mr. Sparkle - You said that you saw hardcore as a reminder of the world's woes, etc. I really don't see hardcore as any more of a "wakeup call" than any other form of techno. I really don't think people suddenly start thinking, "My god, the world really ISN'T a nice place!" when some hardcore comes on. Some people come to raves to escape and be happy for twelve hours *because they have something to escape from*. Whether happy music is escapist is really due to the raver and nothing else. Hardcore can just as easily be escapist or delusionist. If some meek person comes to a rave and can feel powerful dancing to hardcore, then he hasn't tried to deal with himself any more than the person who is failing all their classes and has no direction in their life but goes to raves every weekend so he can feel happy and smile at people and have them smile back. To summarize, I think we're drawing too many far-fetched conclusions about hardcore music being the heart od all evil and house music simply being an escape for people who are too weak to deal with "the real world". What it really comes down to is, certain people like hardcore, certain people like house, certain people like both (which is especially convenient for them), certain people hate techno all together, etc. Accept, and get on with it. Michael | "I've begun to wonder if we wouldn't (inhuman@mindvox.phantom.com) | also regard spelunkers as desperate | criminals if AT&T owned all the ...trance form...trance send... | caves." --John Perry Barlow [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Subject: Sunshine -----> From: inhuman@mindvox.phantom.com (Inhuman) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 93 17:46:29 EST I finally got home from Sunshine after crashing in Susie's room for a while. Took a shower, had breakfast, etc. I feel very warm and cozy now, especially with all the rain outside. Sunshine was LOTS of fun. I got to AU around noon on friday to help set up and stuff. Doug, another non-ne-raver, and I went out to get stuff for the oil projections (which miserably failed... oh well), and also smart bar stuff. Thanks for fronting so much money Doug! Hope you didn't lose too much! At least the smart bar did alright, I think. Anyway, we hung in Susie's dorm for a while, making signs and stuff. Around seven we started setting up. My friend Andy came with all his cool computer and video stuff and began setting that up. Ben Jaffe came with his fishtank and inflatable man. :-) Around nine, Ben and I went to pick up Laura from the train station. We found her without much trouble and I learned I was a lot shorter than I thought (damn!). :-) We got back and Ed and Will were just getting the turntables and sound system hooked up. I finally got to hear some Toxic Beatbox stuff! (awesome, Taylor & crew!) The UMRave Posse showed up with their cool lasers and started setting them up. Jedd and Jesse and Tina and Jetta set up the chillout space, which was the COOLEST chill space I've ever seen at a rave! Pillows, blacklight, easter grass, blankets, crayons, drawing paper, funky red light that swirls, TV w/ VCR playing the Mind's Eye and stuff. Wow.... that was so comfortable when I chilled for a bit later on. Rob came and set up his cool virtual reality thing. That was really weird! I never got to try it but I saw other people using it. Finally, the lights went down around 11 and the doors opened. I can't remember the exact DJ order now, but Donny from Triumverate Records and DJ +8 (Thieu Le) were the first two. They were both really good, and I got to hear "We Are Family" again! :-) I would have preferred to hear it later on, around five, but it's better than nothing! Next came Laura's DJ debut (DJ Thirteen!). She was really good! I was getting into it... it's been so long since I've heard good hardcore! Then came DJ Pulse and Havok from VA. I'm not sure which was which, but I liked the second guy much better. Then I think it was Pat the Bunny's turn... it might have been Chuck from AU at that point. I forget. At any rate, Pat spun some awesome low-tempo acid jazz stuff. It was cool. The was another DJ, who I didn't know, who spun some decent stuff. Then came Ed, finishing out the night with some great trance! I wish I could have heard more of your set, but I kept falling asleep. :-) I woke up and danced for the end, though. What a great feeling! It was so much fun helping to run the computer... It was too bad we couldn't hook it up to more than one TV, but I think it went over well anyway. It was just so neat making fractals move to the music and putting up weird GIFs and stuff that people came over and looked at. I imagine it was the same stimulus-response thrill that DJs get. Anyway, after that I crashed on the floor with my rave-bear and slept. Sorry I didn't help clean up more! I sort of felt bad about that... I woke up and everything was already disassembled and clean. Oh well... then I stumbled back to Susie's room and feel asleep until three when Ben gave me a ride home. What a great rave! Thanks Doug and Susie for putting so much of your time and money into creating such a great vibe! The attendance fell short of the 200-300 expected, but the number of people dancing remained at around 20 throughout the entire night, which was sort of neat. Overall, it was a lot of fun and I want to do it again! :-) BTW- It was great meeting all you ne-ravers that I hadn't met before: Ed, Will, Laura, Laura, Derek, Phred, Christopher, Rob, Mikey, Jetta, and everyone else! it's too many to remember everyone... peace and keep it going on! Michael | "I've begun to wonder if we wouldn't (inhuman@mindvox.phantom.com) | also regard spelunkers as desperate | criminals if AT&T owned all the ...trance form...trance send... | caves." --John Perry Barlow [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 24 Mar 93 16:02:42 EST From: damian@cislabs.pitt.edu Subject: Re: Rave-o-matic Ups, forgot about this one. SOME URGENT CORRECTION INFO!! i think the problem was i just typed in the wrong name for the ROM :) ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- Doug, Please send this correction to the ROM.... -- I just spoke with Overload last night and he assured me that he *is not* playing GREEN EGGS AND HAM. OVERLORD is playing that rave (and yes..they are two different djs). -- Damian/dieselBoy [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: Alan O. Mortensen Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1993 21:52:40 -0500 Subject: Unsubscribe me. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Sun, 28 Mar 93 11:06:06 EST From: "Beth A. Bates" Subject: THE FINAL WORD This is Fluid checkin in.. I got the final word on Future from the mouth of Richard James himself. The Aph ex Twin WILL NOT be performing at Back To the Future next weekend. He said that he had pulled out a long time ago, too late to be taken off the flyers however. ..does this mean a rave promoter is LYING to us?? ;) more to come... --Fluid [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 28-MAR-1993 11:16:58.03 From: sparklE Subject: ... well well first off, i just wanted to say i liked the images you r message put in my head Inhuman an and after had i had this Tripotronic rave, well whatever. i gotta say i cant dis on anyone for not likeing the kind of person hardcore attratcs, after seeing this rave. RICHARD JAMES IS THE GOD OF ALL DJS :):):):):):):):):):) JAMES IS THE GOD OF ALL DJS :):):):):):):):):):) he played and im glad i went just for him an incredible oddeysey of acid and hard trance and brekcore and distorted shit and proved your best djs dont walk around in a little music box, playing all your favorites from BOX A. (it was cool cuz he played a trak by brother just picked up by chance a white label acid-killer) i just wanted to make clear my final opinion vizaviz hahdkoah, raves whatever hardcore i like, but well, i'm sick of trying to anaalyze it i just wanna dance basically :) fuck it just let the music play and avoid the asshole GANGSTA WANNABE crowds bye peace love world happy raver __ _ _ _ _ (_ (_) (_) (_) (/ ( (_ __) ( ( ) ( \ (\ (_ (_ hartcoreadrenalinrushvibethrowlustunionpushtwirlcreateventureforth. . [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Sun, 28 Mar 93 11:58:29 -0800 From: reillye@Cyanamid.COM (Eileen Reilly) Subject: sunshine Congrats to doug, susie, et al, for a very good rave. There were a lot of ne-ravers there, and it was nice to meet people who I had been reading for a while. The space was really cool. There was the main room, a chill out area, a patio off the main room (for air or carbon monoxide), and a hallway type area for the virtual reality set up (which was really fun to play with). The place was really clean, which was nice, because a few times during the night I decided to crawl under the table where the speakers were and crash :). The music had its ups and downs... there was too much house played, in my opinion. Three sets stand out as being really good... Laura's hardcore set (had it been any longer, I think I would have passed out from exhaustion-- congrats on your debut, Laura), another set by some guy whose name is either Havoc or Pulse (I can't remember), and Ed's set of "seven am trance". I didn't like the music that the DJ before Ed played, so I decided to crash... when Ed was about to start, a friend tried (unsuccessfully) to wake me up. Not thirty seconds into Ed's first track, I woke up on my own... now that's good music! It was a really good rave... I wish I hadn't gotten up at 6:30 that morning, so I could have been coherent and conscious for all of it. eileen (reillye@cyanamid.com) [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1993 15:10:57 -0500 (EST) From: David M McDowell Subject: SURVEY: MDMA use ***Disclaimer: Delete this message now if you are not interested in a survey on the usage of MDMA(Ecstasy).**** Dear E-mail subscriber I am currently a resident in psychiatry at The College of Physicians and Surgeons of Columbia University in New York and I need your help. I am interested in MDMA, better known as Ecstasy, which has been used both as a therapeutic and recreational agent. I have assembled a questionnaire which concerns both the settings and the effects of using Ecstasy. I realize that this rave mailing list may not be the right place to discuss the use of illegal substances, but in order to get the widest possible distribution of the survey, it makes sense to include those of us interested in the rave scene. There are a lot of myths and misinformation about the drug and a lack of good clinical data about it. I hope that this survey will help answer a few of the questions about Ecstasy and its' use. You'll be contributing to science. If you have ever used the drug, I'd be eternally grateful if you'd take approximately 10-15 minutes and fill out the questionnaire. You have, if you are interested, two options to fill this out. The easiest way is to answer the questions on your e- mail and send it back to me. My e-mail address is dmm6@Columbia.edu (128.59.40.130). The answers will be strictly confidential; The header will be automatically deleted electronically and thus I will be unable to identify respondents. You will automatically remain anonymous. The other alternative is that you can print it out, fill out the responses and send them to me at the following address: David McDowell MD. Box 97 New York State Psychiatric Institute Columbia University 722 West 168th Street New York, NY 10032 I would be really appreciative if you could forward the survey to anyone who might be interested. Also if you have any questions or comments about our work or the survey, send them along as well, but with those remember to include your address as that will be the only way I'll be able to respond. I thank you very much for your help and effort. Sincerely, Dave McDowell MD. MDMA- "Ecstasy"-A SURVEY 1. Age_______ 2. Sex Male Female 3. Occupation________________ 4. Marital Status 1. Single 2. Married 3. Committed relationship 4. Divorced or separated 5. Are you currently a student? Yes No 6. Highest educational level obtained 1. Grammar school 2. Some High School 3. High School 4. Some college 5. College (BA or the equivalent) 6. Masters degree 7. Advanced degree, past Masters 7. Religious background 1. Protestant 2. Catholic 3. Jewish 4. Muslim 5. Other 8. Are you currently involved in an organized religion? Yes No 9. Identified sexual group 1. Heterosexual 2. Gay 3. Bisexual 10. Ethnic group 1. African American 2. Caucasian 3. Hispanic 4. Native American 5. Asian or Pacific Islander 11. Place of birth (by state)_________ 12. Current residence (by state)_________ 13. Place of residence 1. Rural 2. Urban 3. Suburban 14. What was the approximate date you first used MDMA?_______________ 15. How old were you at the time?___________________ 16. When was the last time you used MDMA? 1. Within the week 2. More than one week and less than one month ago 3. More than one month and less than six 4. More than six months ago. 17. In the past 3 months how often have you used MDMA? 1. Daily 2. More than 2x per week 3. Weekly 4. More than 2x per week 5. Once per month 6. Once every 2-3 months 7. Once every 6 months 8. Once every year 9. Less than once per year 18. At any point in your life were you using MDMA more frequently than you are now? Yes No 19. If so how old were you at the time?_____________ 20. At that time how much were you using? 1. Daily 2. More than 2x per week 3. Weekly 4. More than 2x per month 5. Once per month 6. Once every 2-3 months 7. Once every six months 8. Once every year. 21. How long did this usage pattern last? 1. Less than one week 2. Less than two weeks 3. Less than one month 4. Less than six months 5. Less than one year 6. Less than three years 7. More than three years 22. Please estimate the total number of doses of MDMA you have taken in your lifetime__________. 23. Do you plan to continue taking MDMA? Yes No 24. Are you more or less likely to use other drugs while on ecstasy? more likely less likely 25. What drugs do you use while on ecstasy? 1. Alcohol 2. Marijuana 3. LSD 4. Cocaine 5. Special K 6. Amphetamines 7. Mushrooms 8. 2C-B 9. Peyote 10. Other_________ 26. Where do you use MDMA? 1. At Nightclubs 2. At raves 3. Outside, in a natural setting 4. At home 5. Other_____________ 27. With whom do you most often use MDMA? 1. While alone 2. With just 1 friend 3. With 4 or fewer friends 4. With more than 4 friends 5. With sexual partner(s) 6. Other________________ 28. What kind of music do you prefer listening to while using MDMA? 1. Techno 2. Soft classical 3. Loud classical 4. Pop 5. Raggae 6. Rap 7. New age 8. None 9. Other_________________ 29. Have you ever used MDMA with your therapist as part of your treatment? Yes No 30. When was the most recent time?____________ 31. While using MDMA are you more likely to desire close physical contact? Yes No 32. While using MDMA are you more or less likely to have sexual activity? More likely Less Likely 33. Does MDMA interfere with your ability to achieve erections(for men) and sexually arousal (for women)? Yes No 34. Does MDMA interfere with your ability to achieve orgasm? Yes No 35. If yes did this concern you? Yes No 36. Has MDMA made you more likely to engage in unsafe sex? Yes No What other drugs do you use? 37. Alcohol 1. Daily, 4 or more drinks per day 2. Daily, more than 1 drink and less than 4 per day 3. Daily, 1 drink per day 4. Several times per week 5. Weekly 6. Monthly 7. Have tried 8. Have never tried 38. Marijuana 1. Daily, 4 or more joints per day 2. Daily, more than 1 but less than 4 joints per day 3. Daily, 1 joint per day 4. Several joints per week 5. Weekly 6. Monthly 7. Have tried 8. Have never tried 39. LSD 1. Daily 2. Several times per week 3. Weekly 4. Monthly 5. Have tried 6. Have never tried 40. Cocaine 1. Daily, more than 1 gram per day 2. Daily, less than 1 gram per day 3. Several times per week 4. Weekly 5. Monthly 6. Occasional 7. Have tried 8. Have never tried. 41. Main route of usage 1. Snorting 2. Smoking 3. Intra-venous 4. Not applicable 42. Ketamine 1. Daily (Special K) 2. Several times per week 3. Weekly 4. Monthly 5. Have tried 6. Have never tried 43. Amphetamines 1. Daily, more than 3 doses per day 2. Daily, between 1 and 3 doses per day 3. Daily 4. Several times per week 5. Weekly 6. Monthly 7. Have tried 8. Have never tried 44. Main route of usage 1. Oral 2. Intra-venous 3. Sniffing 4. Not applicable 45. Heroin (or other Opiates) 1. Daily, more than twice per day 2. Daily 3. Several times per week 4. Weekly 5. Monthly 6. Have tried 7. Have never tried 46. Main route of usage 1. Intra-venous 2. Snorting 3. Smoking 4. Not applicable 47. Mushrooms 1. Daily 2. Several times per week 3. Weekly 4. Monthly 5. Have tried 6. Have never tried 48. Peyote 1. Daily 2. Several times per week 3. Weekly 4, Monthly 5. Have tried 6. Have never tried 49. 4-Bromo-2,5 Phenylethylamine (2C-B) 1. Daily 2. Several times per week 3. Weekly 4. Monthly 5. Have tried 6. Have never tried 50. Other(s)_________________________ 60. Frequency________________________ Below is a list of possible effects of MDMA. Are these effects part of your typical experience while on the drug? Immediate effects (within the first six hours) 61. Increased intensity of the senses Yes No 62. Heightened energy Yes No 63. Feeling of closeness to other people Yes No 64. Feeling disinhibited Yes No 65. Increase in loving feelings Yes No 66. Increase heart rate Yes No 67. Jaw clenching Yes No 68. Dry mouth Yes No 69. Increased tactile sensation Yes No 70. Increased alertness Yes No 71. Tremor Yes No 72. Palpitation Yes No 73. Sweating Yes No 74. Difficulty concentrating Yes No 75. Pins and needles Yes No 76. Insomnia Yes No 77. Hot or cold flashes Yes No 78. Blurred vision Yes No 79. Other__________ Have you felt the following effects for more than 24 hours after taking MDMA in a typical experience? 80. Drowsiness Yes No 81. Muscle aches or fatigue Yes No 82. Sense of closeness with other people Yes No 83. Depression Yes No 84. Anxiety Yes No 85. Tight jaw muscles Yes No 86. Difficulty concentrating Yes No 87. Headache Yes No 88. Dry mouth Yes No 89. Irritability Yes No 90. Loss of appetite. Yes No 91. Other____________________ Have you felt the following effects for more than one week after taking MDMA? 92. Continued sense of feeling closer to people Yes No 93. Difficulty concentrating Yes No 94. Increased ability to concentrate Yes No 95. Increased sense of awareness Yes No 96. Anxiety Yes No 97. Depression Yes No 98. Other___________________ 99. Have you ever been treated by a mental health professional for a problem (not including substance abuse)? Yes No 100. If Yes What ________________________________ 101. Have you ever been treated by a mental health professional for a substance abuse problem? Yes No 102. At any time in your life have you or others been concerned with your use of the following drugs? 1. Alcohol 2. Marijuana 3. LSD 4, Cocaine 5. Special K 6. Amphetamines 7. Mushrooms 8. Ecstasy 9. Other____________________ 103. Are you currently taking a prescribed medicine for a psychological or psychiatric problem? Yes No 104. If yes what____________________ 105. Have you ever been depressed for most of the day, every day for a period of greater than two weeks so much so that it interfered with your normal functioning? Yes No 106. Have you ever been extremely anxious for most of the day, every day for a period greater than two weeks so much so that it interfered with your normal functioning? Yes No 107. What is/are the principal reasons or benefits of your use of Ecstasy? 108. What has been the principal liability of Ecstasy use for you or your principal concern about using it? 109. Any other comments about Ecstasy not covered in the questionnaire? [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1993 19:20:51 -0500 (EST) From: Joe LeSesne Subject: High Voltage Here's a flyer for High Voltage. Could someone put the info on the Rave-o-Matic? Thanks. Joe (187- Mobile Live Techno Vibes) TurboZen Presents High Voltage!!! Saturday, April 24 9pm-6am Neural Transmission Event * Megawatts of Ace, Bass, Vibe disruption devices, * Auto-syncronizing visual effects for the mind, * Intellectual, liquds to keep you going all night, * Super Crazy Circus Apocalypse Side-show, and * A driving force line-up of totally schizmatic DJ's : Soji-Fu Jeff E _______________________________ | Special Live Performance | Dr. Suess Side 2 | Super Cool 187 | | | Finger +FX Simon |-----------------------------| Deadly Buda JediMindtrip Terry Kicks Vic Money Bringing you the best of Hardcore, Breakbeat, Trance and Tribal music from all over this funky planet!!!! Phree with ticket from Tranceformer (all Tranceformer tickets) (must be turned in by Apr.7) Ticket Information available at: 412.621.7759 [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Sun, 28 Mar 93 21:36:49 -0500 From: jna@silver.lcs.mit.edu (senses working overtime) Subject: Re: boston scene defense Seeing as my name got mentioned in the post, I'll just HAVE to respond :) Camper and I discuss the old-school of boston, and kreig responds: SP> >this is wrong wrong wrong. there was old school hardcore in boston. SP> >we took buses to storm raves, and loved it. loved that hardcore. SP> SP> that was then tho! i feel like i missed out on those days too becuz i SP> chose to go to the wrong school. if i had gone to BU i would probably SP> have been on those buses myself. I didn't go to BU. I just went to clubs and met people. School has nothing to do with it, although I get the feeling there's a decent sect of BU that goes to the 'ravey' clubs, in retrospect to those that do the "$1 jello nights and cheap draft" clubs... SP> i must say there is one hope for the rave scene. it definitely started SP> out with many trnedies, but THE FREAKS ARE COMING!!! :) and they will SP> shake shit up Umm.. Too late for that.. SP> but i would like to hear from other Boston people. like John Adams... SP> he talked about how 95% of the people cant take hardcore there. I'm just as anyone else up here... I just notice that when the hardcore starts, the people dancing split... And camper and I were dancing at Dune last night, and we _both_ were loving the hardcore.. :) Dune was great, though.. nice space, wonderful vibe, and the debut of my new 1/4 W laser, brighter than the roboscans even... ---john [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1993 19:20:51 -0500 (EST) From: Joe LeSesne Subject: High Voltage Here's a flyer for High Voltage. Could someone put the info on the Rave-o-Matic? Thanks. Joe (187- Mobile Live Techno Vibes) TurboZen Presents High Voltage!!! Saturday, April 24 9pm-6am Neural Transmission Event * Megawatts of Ace, Bass, Vibe disruption devices, * Auto-syncronizing visual effects for the mind, * Intellectual, liquds to keep you going all night, * Super Crazy Circus Apocalypse Side-show, and * A driving force line-up of totally schizmatic DJ's : Soji-Fu Jeff E _______________________________ | Special Live Performance | Dr. Suess Side 2 | Super Cool 187 | | | Finger +FX Simon |-----------------------------| Deadly Buda JediMindtrip Terry Kicks Vic Money Bringing you the best of Hardcore, Breakbeat, Trance and Tribal music from all over this funky planet!!!! Phree with ticket from Tranceformer (all Tranceformer tickets) (must be turned in by Apr.7) Ticket Information available at: 412.621.7759 [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Subject: Morph of me!!! Date: Sun, 28 Mar 93 22:36:25 -0500 From: jshiple@media.mit.edu I put a Morph of me into Jack Dangers on the ne-raves ftp site in the incoming directory. It's a Quicktime movie--so tell me what you think of it... --John (Knee raver...away on thesis duty...........) [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Sun, 28 Mar 93 23:03:19 -0800 From: Micah Anderson Subject: Announcing: West-Coast-Raves mailing list Please pass this around to all your friends and family who may be affected. This is to announce the newly created West-Coast-Raves mailing list. It will cover all west-coast states (including washington, orgeon, etc...) To subscribe, mail to: server@edm.com and in the message put: SUBCRIBE west-coast-raves Hope to see you there! Micah [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu (Brian Behlendorf (Vitamin B)) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1993 00:11:18 -0800 Subject: Re: Announcing: West-Coast-Raves mailing list Er, um.... Does this include SF and LA by chance? Brian [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Subject: Back to the Future From: John Rainbow Humphrey Date: Mon, 29 Mar 93 08:46:06 EST ---------- We all know (or are pretty sure) that Meacham is a liar...but we all want to go to BTTF to see friends and...well for me just to see friends but...what if we all went and just hung out outside and had our own micro-rave...I'm not saying we should plan anything big (although we could) all I'm saying is, I don't want to give dirty lying promoters my money, but I do want to ride on the bus that is going up and do want to see all net-ravers...we could probably even hear the music if we stayed outside...it could be a neat statement...I wonder if we could get kicked out or in trouble...probably not...I don't know...I'm just trying to think of some way to get out of this dillema... On the bright side, I get to see Meat Beat Manifesto and 808 State tonight! At the Cat's Cradle in Chapel Hill! |\ . ______ * __John Rainbow Humphrey__ | \ _ | | + john_humphrey@ncsu.edu + <--personal mail here | \ _ | | - + humphrey@unity.ncsu.edu + <--or here | \ | | - + jrhumphr@eos.ncsu.edu + |e___\ |______|/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: "Golden Boy" Date: Mon, 29 Mar 93 09:21:47 CST Subject: HARDCORE HEY ! Hardcore isnt evil...I'm telling you grape jelly is the antichrist !!! ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: "Golden Boy" Date: Mon, 29 Mar 93 09:28:51 CST Subject: Re: hardcore On 25-MAR sparklE launched from his cyberdeck.... >i thought NWA was good for a laff when they first came out, but then all >this gangsta rap started pouring from every corner of the country, and every >whitebread mofo i knew thought because he liked that stuff and PE that he >wa some hahdkoah bitch. HA HA HA...that'z phunny !...I can relate...I grew up in South Central L.A...and it'z not only whitebread mofo'z that front...wanna be gansta cheeze ooozez in all flavorz...it's very ironic...these lyrix incite many violent feelings [oft timez actionz] toward ones own kind as well as ALL otherz...yet there are complaints of racial discrimination in the next line of the rhyme..."damn I can't get a break cuz I'm black...yo there'z a sellout punk I'm about to jack"...[Golden Boy'z spur of the moment rhyme :) ]...many people don't even come close to knowing..seeing...or even being in a *REAL* gang...it's not something one want'z to become familiar with... trust me...dodging bulletz from a "drive by" [and it'z *real* hard to dodge bulletz spewed forth by an automatic weapon] ain't the way to spend a saturday night ! or any fucking night !...i'd rather be RAVING !...if only people could keep the rap in perspective...music is one, if not one, of the most determinant factorz of life and lifestyle that I have ever seen ... it show'z many peoplez perspectivez or view pointz...but it doesn't mean go out and emmulate the rap...that'z one of the reasonz I love techno so much...HARDLY ANY WORDZ !...ahh shit I ramble :)...TOO much coffee this morning...just dance ! Let the violence cease...and increase the peace. ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Mon, 29 Mar 93 11:54 EST From: laura@usl.com Subject: hardcore t-shirts Hey everyone, Ed and I were sitting around the MALL (*yetch*) FOOD COURT (*barf*) yesterday thinking up cool t-shirt designs. He came up with a good trancy one, and I came up with a hardcore-related one. Now, before you go off and get all offended and say things like "wearing a hardcore or a trance t-shirt only serves to set you apart and further divide the scene" ponder this: how is this any different from wearing a Rising High Records label t-shirt (Tina has a great one), or an Orb t-shirt (Jason's glows in the dark), or anything else along these lines. But anyway, I thought I'd share the design with you all and see if people were interested in organizing with me to have a bunch made up. I'm going to keep this as simple as possible -- if you have more elaborate ideas, then feel free to get your own t-shirts made up and offer them to us to buy. So here it is: one size -- HUGE -- in white Front says, in perfect eye-doctor black block letters: T H I S W I L L H U R T Y O U Back says, in a beautiful 4AD-ish flowing script (in black): hardcore . . . you know the score Yes, it's silly and all that, but I think it would be fun. I have no idea how much this will end up costing as it involves having two custom silk screens made etc. etc. But if you've been spending up to $18 for a concert t-shirt or a Big Fun House t-shirt then maybe coughing up like $15 for this limited-edition gem wouldn't be so bad. Send me PERSONAL E-MAIL to laura@usl.com if you think you'd be interested and think you could afford $15. Sometime in the next couple of weeks I'll go and get a cost estimate. Laura [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Mon, 29 Mar 93 12:43 EST From: laura@usl.com Subject: sunshine on a cloudy day A new, underground-yet-welcoming-to-anyone-who-cares-to-join, techno/house music dance party phenomena was born at American University on Friday night. I won't say "rave," because "rave" has come to mean huge crowds, bad X, 8 intellabeams, $15 tickets, airport-security style searches, trash on the floor, lying promoters, DJs who willingly double-book and then lie about it when you ask them directly, and other such nonsense. Doug and Susie -- out of nothing but sheer generosity and energy (and a few hundred of their own money) -- threw a heck of a party on Friday night. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Well, you all have already heard about the room, the sets, and the vibe, so there really isn't much more for me to say -- but you all just KNOW I'll still talk on a bit. I was SO NERVOUS approaching Washington on the train that I could hardly sit still. My palms were sweating. I got off the train only to see two cute guys, one with an ne-raves badge, waiting for me. Ben and Michael were incredibly nice, and even agreed to help me find a shot of vodka or something for my nerves (I ended up passing on this, though). Upon arriving at AU I found that Ed had the tables all set, and I asked if it would be okay for me to spin for a while so I could get over my nerves. For the next hour and a half I just basically fucked around, playing lots of happytrance/prog house off the Twitch samplers and out of my small trance collection. At 11.00 exactly the lights went down and the first DJ started. WOW, A PARTY THAT STARTED 100% ON TIME!!! At about 10 minutes to 1 I came on. As I stepped behind the tables I was hit with something that I'd never even *thought* about worrying about: how the HECK do I get from the previous guy's set to mine? There was the fast breakbeat record on the table, and I was really worried about what to do. This was my first gig, and I'd never had to deal with the fact that, yes, there *is* somebody before you in the line-up. Fortunately, my first record started out ambient and built to really hard trance, so I weasled out of *that* dilemma smoothly. People in the room were dancing, and a few guys sort of came up to the tables to watch me. I was shaking -- I'd put the needle down into the groove and it would *bounce* -- but since it was on the table I was cueing on no one heard it! After about 20 minutes my nerves had calmed down, and my mixes sounded just fine. A few more tracks, and suddenly I felt very tired and realized that I had played the cream of what I own, so I figured it was time to stop. My set lasted amost 50 minutes, and included hard trance, the hardest of the Dutch "gabberhouse", and varying degrees of acid trance. I even played this wicked acid/hardcore/breakbeat (yes all 3 on one track) white label I had just picked up. It looked like people had fun -- geeze were they dancing like CRAZY, and I certainly enjoyed it. I'd do it again in a second. Anyone having an event soon? :-) Laura P.S. It was GREAT meeting everyone! If you do this again before school gets out you can bet I'll be coming down. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: dionf@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Francois Dion) Subject: Re: hardcore t-shirts Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1993 12:55:28 -0500 (EST) Beyond the ultraworld of laura@usl.com: > > Now, before you go off and get all offended and say things like "wearing > a hardcore or a trance t-shirt only serves to set you apart and further > divide the scene" ponder this: how is this any different from wearing > a Rising High Records label t-shirt (Tina has a great one), or an Orb t-shirt > (Jason's glows in the dark), or anything else along these lines. Or a Rotterdam, +8, Whte (this is the most interesting i have seen: totally white, but under black lights you see Whte Lbels written all over the shirt) > hardcore . . . you know the score Actually, i've been wondering about this expression. For example, in UK and Canada, hardcore refers to sped up hip hop breakbeats, while in New York hardcore refers to Detroit techno (or Benelux Detroit inspired like Rotterdam). In Boston, i have found cybersonik and other +8 stuff under Detroit techno (at the place in east Boston, which name i forgot). What about other cities? Also, groups like NRG, BKS, DJ Scoobie, Bleu, Holy Noise etc... are also considered hardcore (even Messiah) depending on who you ask. (NRG has a song called "he never lost his hardcore" and "hardcore, u know the score" so the group itself consider its music as hardcore). So, is there, like, a definition, or is this like industrial music (check the industrial newsgroup and you'll see what i mean)? P.S. UK hardcore: the acid derived music was called hardcore also 1 or 2 years ago (ex: Hackney Hardcore) Ciao, -- Francois Dion ' _ _ _ CISM (_) (_) _) FM Montreal , Canada Email: CISM@ERE.UMontreal.CA (_) / . _) 10000 Watts Telephone no: (514) 343-7511 _______________________________________________________________________________ Audio-C-DJ-Fractals-Future-Label-Multimedia-Music-Radio-Rave-Video-VR-Volvo-... [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Mon, 29 Mar 93 12:53 EST From: laura@usl.com Subject: Re: hardcore t-shirts Francois ponders on "hardcore . . . you know the score" ' >So, is there, like, a definition, or is this like industrial music (check >the industrial newsgroup and you'll see what i mean)? I kind of have come to see this saying as a sort of zen koan: like, YOU know what hardcore is -- it allows for a lot of latitude, that's for sure. By saying each *individual* knows the score, it allows inviduals who think fast breakbeat is hardcore be correct, and at the same time allows for individuals that think German/Benelux/Brooklyn noiz is hardcore to be correct, and even includes definitions of groups like Messiah and Masterminds to be hardcore. Heck, a speed-metal-grunge freak could even use this saying/t-shirt and be correct. Pretty nifty, eh? Laura [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Mon, 29 Mar 93 13:02:20 EST From: "Douglas B. Zimmerman" Subject: TripOTronic, attitude, and sleep Hey everyone, Well after sunshine went with Fluid, Susie, brotherman Sparkle (Kreig) to TripOTronic rave. It was an ok time. Talked to Mars for a bit, and Mikey who showed me that Fluid and Richard James do look alike :) But there were two things that stuck out in my mind about the night: -- Richard James set was incredible!! He played music i have never heard before and it was incredible on how he drew you into dancing but starting you off slowly and systematically working you into the beat of the music and getting faster and harder. It was a most amazing set. -- On the down side was the total amount of ATTITUDE that was present at the rave. Never before in all my experiences at a Balt. rave had i encountered so much attitude. People walking around with beer cans and just basically being unfriendly. At one point i was standing near the laser there (which i must comment was amazing, and looked very cool how it danced along the cealing of the warehouse) and there were these people walking through the dance floor. One guy just bumped into the person who was dancing but he didnt say sorry or anything just kept moving on. Then there was this point when i was dancing to Aphex spin, and by mistake i tapped this person that was walking through the dance floor. I put up my hands and said i was sorry, but for the first time ever for me at a rave i got the this total stare-down at me like he was saying: "HOW DARE YOU YOU LOW LIFE WRENCH!" then he continued to walk on through the dance floor with his attitude and fake limp. I was completely angry just jumping up and yelling and ranting and brotherman kreig was like "what up?" and i told him and he was like "just fuck it!" But it totally pissed me off and ruined my entire evening. (not to mention i was continually tripping over beer cans and bottles) so i fell asleep exhausted in the chill-out room (alot from the night before at sunshine) for about five hours till seven. But about the attitude, at the worst D.C. rave i had never encountered as much attitude as i did that night. It just pissed me off, and right now i am not in a good mood so excuse me. doug ) ( dz5401a@american.edu [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 29 Mar 1993 15:10:40 -0500 (EST) From: Derek Tiffany Subject: Sunshine Sunshine was great, wonderful, etc...I think everyone's gotten a general description, I'll just add.... 1) The fractals were way cool...if they just coulda been projected on a wall or something... 2) The virtual reality thing was neat...I'm sorry I didn't get a chance to play with it more... :-( ...but, very impressive Rob! 3) The laser crew did a great job! But, I think I missed the lasers shooting through smoke...I've never had problems w/ smoke machine smoke (although I do w/ others...I'm even allergic to tobacco & mj smoke) so this settles the smoke machine question fer me...I did see once when you guys tried a little something w/ some sort o' vapor...looked promising... 4) My BIG complaint was the music in the chill room...very non-chilly for some of the time I was there... 5) All that aside, I was VERY impressed...the sound, the people...the free candy and ice-cold WATER...EVERYTHING else was perfect... ...except for me. I was so looking forward to meeting everyone and really getting into Sunshine...but then I had transportation problems and then Lori wasn't feeling well...and then I realize that Lori hasn't felt well since about March 1...so then I got into a REALLY bad mood...so to all those who I was frumpy/non-talkitive to, I apologize...I'm glad I met everyone...I can't believe I didn't meet Melanie! Or mebbe I did...I was having a really hard time w/ names...was it Tina I kept blanking out on? See, I still can't remember...thanks to all who were nice/helped me...to suzie for the room and Alby for the guide services...sorry for any bad vibes I spread...I hope to meet everyone again when I'm in a better state of mind...oh, and that's another thing that didn't help...anyone ever try staring into two strobe-lights side by side while dancing to hardcore with diffraction glasses on? Hmmm, really did something to me and I can't say it was good... Oh, and I'd like to compliment Laura's DJing...I was really looking forward to meeting her and then when introduced only managed to growl out a 'Hey' and lend her my glasses...oh well, mebbe next time...as fer your DJing, I caught a few little technical mistakes at the start (must have been nerves) but then, after the first couple songs...you KICKED...got me dancing when I really didn't want to (and I noticed UVa Laura out there smiling as well)... I gotta admit I like one of the later DJs better (right as I was leaving)... but that's just because of music preference (I really don't like hardcore)... so don't take it personally...you did great...(see, even now I'm putting my foot in da mouth...) So, I'll just wrap this up w/ a thanks to Doug and suzie for a job well done! later days and sunny rays, (wew, that was longer then I meant it to be...) -----------------------+---------------------------+------------------------- Derek Tiffany | TIFFANYDE@URVAX.URICH.EDU | Join the SERAVES list! University of Richmond | djt0u@aurora.urich.edu |<= djt{zero}u@aurora... -----------------------+---------------------------+------------------------- or just plain dErEk if you prefer... PS...oh, and I missed Triptronic due to forces outside my control...didn't want to, but that's the breaks...mebbe for the better, I don't think I was into the true rave spirit last weekend... [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Subject: dune...a real dissapointment Date: Mon, 29 Mar 93 15:12:05 EST From: SHALAKO (technokachina) admittedly, i do have pneumonia, so i wasn't totally ready to go to this event, but it seems like i hadn't been to a "rave" rave in so long, that i was incredably psyched for this event. i brought a friend of mine, russel, who had never heard of a rave, or what it was, but when i discribed my idea of what a rave is to him over lunch two weeks ago, he got totally high on the idea. so having russel there having so much fun gave me a real boost. we drove down with my friends dave and sean, arriving at the venue at about 9pm. we spent the next hour feverishly setting up the bigfunhouse booth, in spite of breaking a flourescent black light bulb in the process. it turns out that balu (the promoter) spent an entirety of $1700 on this production. that's including lights, sound, rent, dj's, EVERYTHING. to say the least, it showed it. the sound system was very minimal- four bassbins, four squakers, and four tweeters. essentially the same system as the techno floor at the loft's system. lights consisted of some can lights that were balu's, a strobe, four roboscans (intellibeams?), a smoke machine and a bubble machine. after dune, i never want to see another strobe light. dale charles supn the first set starting around just after 10, good breaks. russel immediately went crazy. this was obviously more than anything he'd ever imagined. it really made me beam to see him so happy, dancing all over the place. at the beginning, for the first, say, 2 hours, there was a real "dancing is not cool" attitude. no one but russel and some others buddies of mine were dancing. i'd occasionally find that i could breathe through my pneumonia and go out and freak to the breaks but i always ended up coughing and gasping. so i ended up just rocking to the beat mellowly for most of the night. onionz played the second set, due to the fact that he had to leave at 1 and drive down to DNA in NY. unfortunately, onionz felt it necessary to play second set-type music: breaks, hardcore, hardhouse. a really shitty set. honestly, onionz was not Onionz. reeeeally dissapointing. the man has got to be true to himself and play the music that he is known for: mind blowing spirit-freeing his set was not. then dale charles went on again and spun some MORE hardcore, breakcore, hardhouse. very uninteresting records. paul(333) went on next (his brother mark, who was advertized on the flyer never showed, paul spun instead). i think he played some good hardtrance, and at this point i got into a bit of a vibe, grooving steadily with friends. Dutch's intro song is UN-FUCKING-believable: i can only describe it by calling it the drumroll song. really raw hard drum rolls, spaced my silence, then another drum roll, etc. really hard and loud. squawker popping phat. his set was really good and i got into it, but everything played up to this point was hard, and his set was too. really fast, hardhouse, etc. at this point i was hoping some groovy morning music would be on it's way.... BUT NOOOOOO!!!!!... rio followed with the worst set i've ever heard. he just had really bad records. and everyone knew it. a lot of people stopped dancing. hardhouse. really boring hardhouse. really hard, fast hardhouse. i was really getting pissed, because i could see that it was getting light outside, and i wanted morning music. i wanted happy, mellow, groovy music. osheen followed this, after a slight delay as someone annouced that they were getting married or something over the mic. balu did some flagrent frankie bones-type mc-ing and self promotion, and osheen came on. more hardhouse. fast, hard hardhouse. sux. real fucked up. at this point i was just standing in the back fuming to myself. DUNE-the hardhouse nightmare. no happy music played the entire time...a couple songs, care of dutch and 333, but a real pity of a vibe on the whole. it's interesting when i think back, that i remember having a good time, earlier in the night, but since that last four hours really bit, the memory of the rave as a whole has really negative connotations. i can attribute this also to the fact that for the entire length of a rave, i wate patiently for that time, at the end of the rave, when i get to hear my favorite styles of music- really happy, celestial voices, slow, grooving beats, arms in the air, praying to the speaker. and there was none of that. i feel really cheated. but then, i didn't have to pay anything, so nothing lost, nothing gained. a quick question for those who went- why the hell was the rave called DUNE? did anybody see any sand, or decorations? besides those cheezy silver tubes by the dj booth? balu really knows how to throw a cheep rave. he's really slick, he's obviously had a lot of practice...he walked away with a lot of cash in his pocket on this one...did anyone pay the advertized $15??? i might have payed $8 for this rave... [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1993 15:51:41 -0500 From: Dan English Subject: Re: dune...a real dissapointment i also was at dune. i liked it. balu is a tard, but that gave it a minimalist effect. it was hardhouse all over the place, as shannon said. and i liked it. i thought that rio and osheen were really good. surprised i wasc to be dancing to something so hard and fast. it was hard, yet i didnt get angry. i grooved hard. evrything was so fast vtha oops. that it was hard to dance for very long. luckily 90 percent of the people there were tripping their brains out and had tons o energy. all in all, i enjoyed it. nothing fantastic, but i am glad i went. and its good i didnt have to pay. -camper. * stay groovy. camper english it ain't easy, being cheesey @buphy.bu.edu [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Mon, 29 Mar 93 16:00 EST From: laura@usl.com Subject: Re: dune...a real dissapointment Shannon says: >lights consisted of some can lights that were balu's, a >strobe, four roboscans (intellibeams?), a smoke machine and a bubble machine. >after dune, i never want to see another strobe light. Did you see John's amazing blue argon laser? How could you have missed it? It was 1/4 watt of blue moon in a tube. It was brighter than the roboscans according to John. I saw it projecting in his room last week -- you could READ by the darn thing, with no other lighting in the room. ( Strobes really bother me -- I got my eyes burned out on a dataflash last fall at Bold II. ) >onionz played the second set, due to the fact that he had to leave at 1 and >drive down to DNA in NY. unfortunately, onionz felt it necessary to play second >set-type music: breaks, hardcore, hardhouse. a really shitty set. honestly, >onionz was not Onionz. reeeeally dissapointing. the man has got to be true to >himself and play the music that he is known for: mind blowing spirit-freeing >his set was not. Actually, this is the type of stuff I was hearing Onionz play back the first few times I heard him last summer, and even as late as this October in New York (back when the Thunderground was still *good*). It's good to hear Onionz being Onionz again :-) ! He used to be one of the most -- if not the most -- creative DJs around. His sets were incredibly varied -- sort of like Denard's was at Massive Dose. He's still great, although his and my tastes have diverged since then. But we all change, though sometimes it's fun to do something old that you haven't done in a long time. Frankie Bones said in the latest _Under One Sky_ that Onionz is the DJ who is doing for progressive house what Adam X did for hardcore: stimulate interest in it and have its popularity grow huge amounts. And I'm sure Camper will agree that Onionz is the guy who can do this! >BUT NOOOOOO!!!!!... rio followed with the worst set i've ever heard. he just >had really bad records. and everyone knew it. a lot of people stopped dancing. >hardhouse. really boring hardhouse. really hard, fast hardhouse. This is too bad, because Rio spun the bloopiest creamiest house set at Atlantis. A LOT of people liked his set there. His choice in music there is the sole reason I now have interest in house. Was anyone at both these raves? How was Rio at Dune compared to Rio at Atlantis? >more hardhouse. fast, hard hardhouse. sux. real fucked up. at this point i was >just standing in the back fuming to myself. Well, that's what Osheen's known for. >DUNE-the hardhouse nightmare. No WONDER John Adams and Joe Turner had such a good time!! :-) >no happy music played the entire time...a couple >songs, care of dutch and 333, but a real pity of a vibe on the whole. I heard from a few other people that this was a good rave with a decent vibe and great music. I heard that its biggest problem was that there just weren't that many people there (there were SO MANY raves going on that night it's no wonder). I guess this whole review just REALLY illustrates the difference in tastes between people. Adam X once said, in his sometimes-misguided-but-infinite (hee hee) wisdom: "you can't please everyone at a rave." We had been talking about events that stick to one style of music versus events that try to do everything. His opinion (which was backed up by the in general low-grade quality of the December Storm Rave in comparison to all other Storm Raves) was that if you switch music types all night you're bound to end up pissing a bunch of people off, but if you stick to simillar type-combinations (like hardcore/hardtrance/acid or breakbeat/prog.house) people will know what they are getting into in advance and so will stay away if they don't like the style for that event, and therefore won't go and have a bad night. >he walked away with a lot >of cash in his pocket on this one...did anyone pay the advertized $15??? i >might have payed $8 for this rave... I heard from people actually WORKING there that he said that he lost a lot of money. Maybe it was just bullshitting on his part. Oh well. So, who else went besides John, Joe, and Shannon? I think it takes a couple of opinions from varying viewpoints to get a picture of what was going on. Also, what do you all out there really like to have at an event, a mixture or one continuous style? It sounds like Dune was pretty much one continuous style (hard trance, hardcore, hard house). I prefer one continuous style (ahh, that amazing FLUID rave), but shifting styles are good too because it's a good way to experience new music you've never heard before. So much depends on how the night is put together I'm seeing: Suzie and Doug did a good job with their DJ list and scheduling (although I could have done with Chuck's set being a little shorter -- but gosh did that guy have good technique). Rambling, I'll be stopping now . . . Laura [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1993 16:16:00 -0500 From: Joe Turner Subject: Re: dune...a real dissapointment Well, actually, I quite liked Dune -- but then, I like house and breakbeat a WHOLE lot. From my vantage point up at the lasers, I could see LOTS of people dancing, all night long. There were spots where the floor opened up a bit, but if you're with a group of friends and you all decide to go get a breath of air or something, that will happen. There were still a LOT of people dancing when they shut down at 6am (a little early, I thought, but since we had to break everything down and drag it home, it was OK). The sound system was perfectly fine to me -- anything louder in a space that size would have turned it into audio mush. The high end could have been a little less harsh, but when John asked Osheen about it, Osheen said he needed the high end because, well, Osheen's ears are apparently shot to hell. -shrug- The decorations were minimal, but there. The blinking flares were a nice touch, especially since people could move them or hold them. I wasn't too concerned that it didn't look like Arrakis. I also doubt they only spent $1700. The lasers would have been 1/5 of the budget -- highly unlikely considering they were a late addition. 6 DJ's at $200 each would have been $1200 already. The police were at least a couple of hundred. I really liked Dune a lot. There was a small intimate crowd, a minimum of cheap gimmicks, a chill area you could actually chill in, and they even opened within an hour of being on time. At less than $2/hour, I don't think it was the losing proposition described. If it was so un-fun, why were so many people dancing all the time? /joe -|-|-|-|-|-|/\-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|- Joe Turner < > cutter@cs.umb.edu \/ Our leaders are only drunk with fear, they wouldn't do this be they sober. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Mon, 29 Mar 93 17:08:16 EST From: wescott@pleiades.cs.bucknell.edu (jeffrey wescott `95) Subject: Rave-O-Matic Greetings: I would like to subscribe to the weekly Rave-O-Matic. Just the Rave-O-Matic, and not the discussions. Thanks. Jeff Wescott wescott@bucknell.edu [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1993 17:02:58 -0500 (EST) From: Kenny Eng Subject: dna well, it seems like no one else on neraves went to this one, but i did. i arrived there at 12:45 am, after driving since 5 pm on friday from st.petersburg, where i spent my belated spring break. it was held in this armory on freeport long island. it was an excellent place for a rave, that is, if you didn't plan on having a chillout room withmusic, which dna did not have. we passed the armory by a block, cause we werent' sure if it was the right place, but i told my friend to turn down the radio and open the window and listen for the bass and we did, so we found it. the lot was full , we got in , it was pretty crowded, maybe a crowd of like 600 when we got there. the dj booth was set up diagonally across from the entrance and right next to it was this HUGE wall of bass cabinets and speakers. it was plenty loud. there were several booths set up, one seling rave toys, another with fruits ($1 for a bunch), smart drinks, and another table with a fluorescent light set up where this guy was drawing graffiti with a highlighter on people's body parts. i got tagged on my forearm, it was cool. the guy just improvised as each customer came up, drawing shit out of this world. one guy passed by and showed off the tagger's works done earlier that night, which was on his stomach. the main floor was pretty huge, people were dancing facing the dj booth which was some 5-6 feet high. outside the dancefloor was another room leading to another part of the armory, which people used as a chillout room but it was lit. the bathrooms were on this main floor and upstairs. no toilet paper as usual. two female friends i went with got smart drinks for free. the guy just said, here, try some, it's good, it's on me!!! the music was hardcore most of the night. i swear every time the bass kicked in, i could feel a breeze of air all the way across the room and that was a good 75 feet away!!!!! frankie bones spun some patented brooklyn hardcore, once even telling the crowd on the microphone, i got a lot of requests for this one tonight, and promptly played that song, "i am , i am, i am... the creator" throughout the whole night, some guy up on the dj booth, read out loud license plates of cars that were blocking other cars and kept saying, move it or lose it, move it orloe it. annoying and he had to stop the music or turn down the music everytime he did that. there was basically no really good vibe the whole night. several dancing circles, homeboys strutting their stuff. dancef loor was pretty scuzzy, with spilled soda, candy wrappers, cups, crushed water bottles, etc. at 7 am, debo came on, played some phat classic house. guy dmc had a long set, hardcore of course, dave trance played a cool hard trance set. they had an afterhours party at caffeine but i didnt' go to it. did anyone? kenny [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Mon, 29 Mar 93 17:43:16 EST From: damian@cislabs.pitt.edu Subject: BREAKBEAT SUPPORT Laura "Hard To Da MuthaFuckin Core" LaGassa writes : >> I even played this wicked acid/hardcore/breakbeat (yes all 3 on one track) >> white label I had just picked up. ^^^^^^^^^ Damian says : BBBBWWWWWUUUUUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Wow....I just don't understand why the person[s] who made that record would resort to using a OLD-WORN-OUT-TIRED-BORING-ASS **BREAKBEAT** from some stupid sampling cd (most likely Jon Adams would tell you) when they could have just stuck with the PURE-TRUE-MINDFUCK 303/909 combination!!?!?!!? You see...even old hardheads like Laura can get into breakbeat every now and then. And there isnt just *ONE* style of breaks. There is all sorts ranging from hardcore breakbeat and breakcore all the way through ragga breaks and trancey breaks and acidic breaks and so on. I have kept pretty damn silent about a lot of the breakbeat bashing that has gone on around here, because I respect the fact that people have different opinions and such (even though I have become slightly pissed on occasion). But I just want to make a point here : Almost ANYTHING can be used in creative ways to make it sound good! For example, some people *hate* diva samples. But someone out there can probably take a diva sample, fuck it up and screw with it, and make it sound fresh again. Look at the 303. That sound has been used *so many times* (at least as many as breakbeats) that it should be *played out* by now. But the thing is, people keep coming along and make that acid squiggle go crazy and keep "updating" that classic sound. The thing is.....I feel that some of you "purists" out there should wake up and stop bashing breakbeats. The new shit coming out of the UK and Germany (Force Inc and Reinforced come to mind as ground breaking labels) is taking breakbeat in a new direction. Some of the new shit is harder then some *hardcore* (shock..gasp). Surprised? Don't be. Breakbeats will *always* be around...maybe even when the days of the old Roland modules have passed. *** OPEN YOUR FUCKING EYES AND ENJOY EVERYTHING MUSIC HAS TO OFFER *** dieselBoy PS : send all flames to dev/blowme -- dieselBoy.........................................................[1] ruffest damian@cislabs.pitt.edu...........................................[2] highbeat The syrup bottle shaped like a little boy ........................[3] breakcore -------------------------------(visit toytown)---------------------------------- [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1993 18:27:04 -0500 (EST) From: "Brian O. Bozarth" Subject: Mutation info - *Pittsburgh* Ok guys, here's the scoop. Mutation is now on Friday, April 9th. It's our second rave..the first one went really well. All you ne-ravers come and enjoy the fun!!! ** Tell yer friends **...The rave line is up...call (412) 734-8330. Any yinzers (no flames intended..any people in Pittsburgh) want flyers? Give me a call...I should have some by Thurs. Or send me mail :) This one will be Highlander cafe...it's the new cafeteria..it's two stories. There will be an extra chill out area. You can see the dancefloor from the second story..lots of glass windows. Pretty cool. :P Feel free to send any inquiries this way or to the raveline: *join into the future flavored vibe* Brian ** lunatik ** ------------------------------------------------- Friday April 9 PITTSBURGH, PA MUTATION Recycled Productions presents Mutation Carnegie Mellon University Highlander/ Resnik Hall April 9 10 pm-4am DJs: Techno Terrorists (CMU) dieselBoy (PITT/METROPOL/BOMB) Simon (CMU) Dr. Seuss (METROPOL) Kris Kersey (METROPOL) Preforming Live: 187 Raveline (412) 734-8330 $5 Superchill, Chill Out Room Visuals by Tranceportation 2 Rooms, 2 Stories, 2 Phat lasers by STORCH 3 Watt Lasers VOLATILE Ravegear Master Blaster(tm) Sound System 12x12 PROJECTIONS Candee no alcohol no attitude stoopid drinks ______________________________________________________________________________ [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: ebh@mink.att.com Subject: Sunshine report Date: Mon, 29 Mar 93 18:15:33 EST This is going to be a very tough review to write, since I was more involved with its production than I have been with any other event I've attended thus far. I'll try to be as objective as I can. First and foremost, I agree with what others have said about Doug and Susie bringing off an exceptionally good event on a shoestring budget. They busted their butts to pull this thing off and deserve a Congres- sional Medal of Honor for their efforts. Second, it is very hard to compare this against the three-ring-circus type events we've been seeing lately. One could say that this was a $200 event and showed it, as compared to the $25,000+ budgets the big events have, but that's really not fair. In fact, since so much of the equipment and labor was donated, and since this was essentially a not-for-profit event, it's not fair to speak of it in terms of dollars at all, so I'm going to speak of it in terms of the variables (in no particular order) which I believe determine how good an event is: Venue: Neat. A nice moderate sized room, with plenty of power, and plenty of nooks and crannies to skulk around in. We were able to have a very well-defined dance floor, with plenty of peripheral space for the smart bar and the other attractions. Sound: I set it up. I liked it. With four speakers each driven with 200W, we were able to get better volume than I expected. I would have liked a bit more bass, but what else is new? Maybe next time I'll have a couple of Electro-Voice 4x18" bins to crawl into. :-) We also had almost all professional grade equipment, so we didn't have to wor- ry too much about the frailties of consumer grade mass-market audio. Music: All over the map, which I liked, even though some of the music itself I didn't like. It followed a reasonable progression of energy, from hard at the beginning to lighter at the end. My favorite sets were Thirteen's hardcore, Pulse's hard trance, and yes, my own trance set at the end. (If I didn't like it so much, why would I spin it? :-) I guess I'll never be all that much into house, because the music played by the two house DJs just didn't do much for me, even though their technique was quite good. Self-serving or not, I would have preferred to to have half as much house and another trance set, but those are only my personal tastes. Vibe: This is another one that's hard to evaluate objectively. Even more than the usual jump-start a vibe gets from a few good hardcore or breakbeat sets early on, I got a tremendous rush during Thirteen's set just from knowing that this was the culmination of a whole lot of effort put forth by a whole lot of people *just because there was an opportunity to do it*. It's so hard not to get bummed out about the whole scene when you see so many scumbags using it just to rake in the bucks or stroke their weak egos. As nearly as I could tell, there was none of that going on here, and the vibe was all the better for it. I guess if there's nobody to impress, there's no need for attitude. :-) Chillout room: Small, but fun. It was far enough removed from the main room that the music didn't have to be cranked. The fluorescent crayons and the black light were a neat idea. I also liked the music in there, because I prefer an "anything goes" sort of selection when there's no dancing in the chillout room. Summary: +2 on the -4 to +4 scale. The event lost points for too much strobing, too much slow music, and ending too early, which I think could have been forestalled by not tearing the equipment down for a while longer. The event gained points for being a simple, no-bullshit good time, and for not trying to live up (or down) to anything. Thanks again, Susie and Doug. Should you ever recover enough to throw another one of these, you can bet I'll be there! -Ed SLiP "into simplicity" [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Subject: Re: dune...a real dissapointment From: inhuman@mindvox.phantom.com (Inhuman) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 93 18:55:19 EST I really like a variety of music types at a rave. It gives you a chance to rest during the stuff you don't like and, as you said, hear new stuff you haven't heard before and might never have listened to on your own. I've sort of grown to like the Catastrophic formula of hardcore, hardcore, hard trance, breakbeat/house, trance, trance, trance... It lets me rest during some of the more uninspiring hardcore and house and the breakbeat usually gets me dancing again and then the trance carries me through. I like a variety, but a measured variety. I wouldn't like something like house, hardcore, trance, breakbeat, hard trance, house, triba. I like the rave to have an overall feel of continuity and evolution. Michael | "I've begun to wonder if we wouldn't (inhuman@mindvox.phantom.com) | also regard spelunkers as desperate | criminals if AT&T owned all the ...trance form...trance send... | caves." --John Perry Barlow [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Mon, 29 Mar 93 19:23:12 -0500 From: Craig M. Kanarick Subject: vrave hop port 7282 is temporarily closed. try 7281 and 7283 in the mean time... -- cmk [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Subject: THe fractal etc display program From: IO20903@MAINE.maine.EDU (N. E. Tableman; I want information autonomy!) Date: I licked your mother. I have almost got it reworked. 6 pictures are displayed in memory, you can switch between them arbitrarily by pressing 2-7, esc stops, tab reverses color cycling, the 6 pics you want dis played can be changed in an set up file. the subliminals are still in the works....so hope ully bu the time any one re-responds to this I will have that editable. My brother and I would appreciate donations for this program!!!!!! NET [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Mon, 29 Mar 93 18:55:09 EST From: Cindy Smyth Subject: I wonder who Cindy Smyth is????? hiya people i found the ajoining artical of the rave artical in the Eagle our American U. newspaper...The Eagle March 29, 1993 X MARKS THE SPOT BY CHRISTINA SHAND As raving has become popular among college students, so has the drug Ecstasy. This hallucinogen/stimulant, which costs about $30 a hit in D.C., has gained widespread name recognition through its association with raves. Ecstasy is a synthetic methamphetamine that can be taken in the form of tablets, capsules or as a free base powder. The drug is technically a stimulant, although it does have some of the same chemical and experiential properties of a hallucinogen. The drug is illegal. Introduced in the late 1960s, it was used in the United States for psychotherapy until the passage of the Controlled Substances Act in 1985. According to the National Clearinghouse for Alcohol & Drug Information, the drug causes feeling of euphoria, emotional openness, a transcendantal experience and clarified insight. It may also cause such negative effects as feelings of anxiety and paranoia, loss of appetite, nausea, vomiting, blurred vision and convulsions. Heart rate and blood pressure increase after taking the drug, and then drop after about an hour. Insomnia and depression may occur for up to two weeks after the drug is taken. Jennifer Phillips, an information representative at the Clearinghouse, said Ecstasy does have addictive qualities. "People do build up a craving for the drug," Phillips said. "This psychological craving to achieve the desired effects causes frequent users to take increasingly higher doses to obtain greater effect, which in turn increases the risk for unwanted physical and psychological consequences." Phillips said there is some concern over the use of the drug at raves. "We do get calls from parents who will say, 'My son/daughter went to a Rave.' and they want to know what exactly goes on there," Phillips said. Cindy Smyth, a raver who has tried the drug twice, said she admits that it can enhance the experience. Smyth tried Ecstasy the first time because she was curious and had read and heard much about it. She tried it a second time in order to totally understand the experience. Smyth recalls her experiences a s lasting about three or four hours and being very euphoric. "Everything seemed really happy," she said. "My friends remembered that I kept saying 'Wow' all night long." Smyth also remembers having a heightened sensory experience. "Textures and skin felt incredible." she said. "Colors seemed vibrant and beautiful. Everything tasted really sweet. It was more of a sensual experience than a sexual one." One of the times she used the drug, Smyth experienced lockjaw, one of the negative possible effects of using Ecstasy. Sucking on a baby pacifier is one way to alleviate this effect. "I'm not really into drugs," Smyth said, although she admits that she would consider doing it again. "I don't think much about it. I don't think it's physically addictive. It can enhance (a rave), but it can enhance anything." There is cause for alarm over casual use of the drug at raves. As a stimulant, Ecstasy has serious potential dangers. According to the AU Student Health Center, long term use may cause permanent damage to the brain, heart, lungs and other organs. Because stimulants interfer4e with vision, coordination, judgment and reflexes in much the same way that alcohol does, they can cause accidents and car crashes. Mixing the drug with other ones is extremely dangerous as the effects are unpredictable and can be deadly. An amphetamine overdose (Ecstasy belongs to the amphetamine family of stimulants) can cause hallucinations, convulsions, tremors and possible death. In cases where dependence occurs, withdrawal can include apathy, long periods of sleep, irritability and depression. The center also said the hallucinogenic properties of the drug can cause unpredictatble, violent behavior and emotional instability. **********************end of artical******************************************* what do you guys think...??? partyon...susie (: [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Mon, 29 Mar 93 19:51:16 -0500 From: Craig M. Kanarick Subject: 7282 all better OK, that was just a test. :-) Anyway, 7282 is back up, and is the port of choice. Just remember, that if for some reason, if vrave isn't running on 7282, check 7281 and 7283... We now return you to your regularly scheduled program... -- cmk [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 29 Mar 93 20:20:00 EST From: "John Speakman" Subject: re: I wonder who Cindy Smyth is? >lungs and other organs. Because stimulants interfer4e with vision, Funny...I could have sworn there was a number 4 in that line.... John [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1993 20:33:23 -0500 From: technopagan priest Subject: Re: Sunshine report I think the _best_ thing about sunshine is that the Chill-Out room and Virtual Reality room had real activities for people to do, and the volume was low enough there that you could actually talk to one another and meet people. As for too much strobing...well, we didn't really have any other lighting effects besides the lasers, and they were more a chilly kind of thing than a dancefloor setup. Maybe for the next area microrave, Thalx and I will get to build the home-made-intellibeam. -Thoma s [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: august@Athena.MIT.EDU Date: Mon, 29 Mar 93 20:35:13 -0500 Subject: Smart Drinks and Drugs Just thought I'd let you know in case anyone's interested. There's an interesting article on smart drugs in last Friday's Boston Phoenix. The author is generally in favor of them. Later, sue [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Mon, 29 Mar 93 19:53:28 EST From: susie Subject: (Un)American u. rave artical...(: hiya here is the main artical... MEGARAVE '93 Radical Ascent into Virtual space and Euphoric rhythms by Katherine D. Ramirez "And he, repulsed, a short tale to make, fell into a sadness, then into a fast, thence into a watch, thence into a weakness, thence into a lightness, and, by this declention, into the madness wherein now he raves." --from "Hamlet" by William Shakespeare There is a new revolution that is gathering momentum with each passing day. It is not a foreign revolution with guns, hostile citizens and oppressive dictators. It is a cultural revolution taking place within the borders of our own country that can be summed up in one simple, four-letter word: RAVE. Webster defines a rave as the following: RAVE(v) 1. to speak wildly, irrationally, or incoherently 2. to roar;rage 3. to speak with wild enthusiasm (n) 1. the state or act of raving 2. informal an extravagantly enthusiactic opinion or review Carlo Cruz is a raver and DJ from Staten Island, N.Y., and co-editor and half owner of a rave publication titled "Klastrip" with a circulation expanding into the thousands along the East Coast. He defines a rave in terms that are only slightly less formal. "We (the rave movement) are unlike any other modern musical movement in the world because we have gone beyond the music and we have stepped into culture. We have our own music, our own literature, drugs, speech, clothing, a rt..." Cruz explained. A rave, in the simplest terms, is an all-night dance party that travels throughout the country to different locations. These rave parties, sponsored by different promotion companies, are characterized by various styles of techno music, loosely fitting clothing to enable people to dance comfortably all night, lots of laser lights to do funny things to your head, and large groups of random young people who travel from all over the country to convene upon that one location. There are other characteristics that are commonly accociated with raves like drugs. But it is widely disputed how important drugs are the rave scene. One good argument for drugs being intergral to raves is that much of the music and the psychedelic clothing were developed to enhance whatever substance that people were on. Many different varieties of rave music are created in order to enhance someone's "trip" in different ways. For example, "trance" music is much what it sounds like it tries to induce, and it is much softer than other forms of music, whereas "hardcore techno" has a faster, harder-pounding rhythm to really get your adrenaline going. The clothing at raves is very bright and cartoon-like. Many of the T-shirts at raves are designer rip-offs of common pop-culture items, like Cheer detergent and Rice Krispies cereal. These common designs are altered by strategically replacing certain words with the word "rave." These subtle changes are made to make the viewere look twice at something they would otherwise just glance over. This effect has been compared to a drug trip in that common, everyday things do not appear as they once seemed. For these reasons it is fair to say that drugs have at least effected what the rave scene is today, but many ravers are attracted only to the music, the freedom a rave provides, and the opportunity to meet new people. Raves have become an incredible phenomenon with young people throughout the country. All-weekend raves with thousands of participants are becoming notorious in not only cultural megacites like New York and Los Angles, but San Francisco, Boston, and Washington D.C., as well. It is not surprising that raves are spreading like wildfire to all parts of the country. They provide a forum for youth to meet, dance and be themselves. Raves are also somewhat exclusive. Many are held at locations that remain undisclosed until the raver purchases the tickets. Then at the purchasing location he or she will receive directions. This exclusive feeling often associated with raves make them more appealing to people.Curiosity and the desire for music, or new drugs, as the case may be, are also appealing draws to raves. Like most other cultural revolutions, the increasingly popular rave movement has political roots as well. AU sophomore Todd Ayer frequents rave parties and has many friends involved in the promotions of raves. He reasons that the political scene of the past few years has encouraged the popularity, and perhaps the need, for raves. "With politics the way it has been the past few years, the youth of this country has felt very stifled," Ayer said. "they needed a new movement based u pon fun and haveing a good time." When asked how big he believes the rave scene is here on AU's campus, he replied it is big with certain crowds of people. "Raves appeal to all different crowds of people. Everyone can go and have a good time if they can let others go and have a good time as well. The only thing that's really not accepted at a rave is prejudice," said Ayer. "Raving is all different people coming together...it's African Americans, and whites, it's gays and non-gays,[i know i used the term homosexuals and hert erosexuals]it's males and females...that doesn't often happen in society," sai d Kameny. Kameny's deep involvement in the rave movemnt is proof that the rave scene is very active here at AU. She co-founded [with Doug Zimmerman] an electronic mailing list for raves called D.C. Raves, which covers raves in the Washington -Baltimore area. D.C. Raves began here at AU in December. Through D.C. Raves, any AU student can have access to rave information and locations by logging onto the university mainframe system. From any of the computer labs on campus someone can send electronic-mail to the following address: [dcraves-request@american.edu] and recieve free information. Accessing rave information through e-mail is also done through other universities in different parts of the country including Stanford and MIT. At AU, D.C. RAves helped to promote a mircorave (a small party) that took place in the Gianni Lounge on the forth floor of Bulter Pavilion on Friday night from 11 p.m. to 7 a.m. Raves may not be a permanent fixture in our society, but it is certainly a strong force that continues to gain popularity and momentum. Rave on! The next rave in Washington, D.C., is on Friday, April 2, and called Back to the Future." Tickets can be purchased at Musicnow record store. For more information, call (202) 331-4465. ******************************end of artical*********************************** first of all, all comments in [] are mine except the dcraves address ...the onl y pictures they had were of the back to the future, tripotronic, and dna which i gave the reporter...and btw music now sucks...oh and under the picture it say s "Colorfully designed rave tickets use state of the art technology to produce advertisements which quickly catch your eye" ticket??? i have yet to see a tick et as good as a flyer..and the lettering that says megarave '93 is taken from t he megarave flyer...btw i find todd more of a clubber and he didn't attend sunshine...(though he is nice guy) and yes this is katie ramirez famous from the U. artical about raves...wheeee...partyon...susie (: [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: Kristine Carrol Noel Subject: Carolina scene... Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1993 22:12:12 -0500 (EST) Hilo everyone!! Does anybody know if there is anything ravey goin' on in the N/S Carolina area this coming weekend? Like in the Chapel Hill or Charlottsville areas or anywhere else? Any info would be greatly appreciated!! Thankyou!! Luv, The Kat In The Hat [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: Kristine Carrol Noel Subject: .02 on Dune :) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1993 22:27:57 -0500 (EST) Just thought I'd add my .02 cents on Dune.... I had a really good time and thought it was a nice, cozy very enjoyable rave. I thought that the atmosphere was great and the vibes high. I only spent half the night dancing, but I thought Dale's, Dutch's and Osheen's sets were INCREDIBLE. Especially Osheens, I was so tired by 4am I thought I was all done but his set got me FLYING and I couldn't stop!! It was just one mind-blowing song after another!! The You Better Work/Work It Girl song really did it though!! I was smiling so much it hurt!! The non-music half, that some referred to as the "chill out room", was great too. I met lots of new friends and was able to just sit and talk a while with them in there. As for what was said about the lack of decoration, loudness, etc. I have to disagree. I don't care much about "decoration" at raves, its the people who make it or break it for me. I mean neato stuff is nice but if its not there I don't miss it. I would rather have my ticket money go into other stuff. And as for the sound, I don't know anything technical, but I know when I walked outta there in the morning my ears were ringing in the clouds!!!! :) Oh, and I must add that John's laser was *GREAT*!!!!!!!!!! I couldn't take my eyes off it while I was dancing!! It added soooo much!! Pretty phat. Well, that was Dune for *me*. I wish everyone could have liked it as much as I did. I hope to see everyone at Reverse! Luv, The Kat [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1993 23:34 EDT From: ST933352@PIP.CC.BRANDEIS.EDU Subject: APPLE SAYS APPLE says:Damian is on the right track. Here is my opinion of things as a European ut there. HARTCORE: The evolution of this concept can be traced back tothe early days of BREAKBEAT in England. The Prodigy is usuallygiven credit/dissed for turning under ground dance music into a commercial thing. Theydid that by using a certain kind of breakbeat from HIP-HOP records and speeding it up. (The real meaning of a breakbeat is just any sampled beat). This kind of breakbeat grew VERY popular in a very short time. At the same time R&S Records were released for the first time on licence in England (On Outer Rhythm). 12"s like Outlander: Vamp raced the charts together with the new breakbeat. But at some point the Belgian stuff stopped getting higher in the charts and the breakbeat records went to number 1. The reason for this, I think, was because the breakbeat scene sold out completely. (It was not because of the quality of the music but because of the way it manipulated media (through major distributors and labels, Top of the pops etc)). Somewhere around here the commercial dance music described above was givenIn oththe tag HARDCORE BREAKBEAT. In other parts of Europe the scene was frustrated because they did not want to be assosiated with the scene in England. The controversy was of course the term hardcore. Therefore a lot of people, especially in Germany, began to call their music HARTCORE, just so that people would know the difference between this underground music and the "HARDCORE" in England. This is the real meaning of Hartcore. Today I would say it is very similiar to the concept intelligent techno. INTELLIGENT TECHNO: A notion that first came from Colin Dale's mouth to describe techno that was not completely LOST (See Gabber House). It does not imply any form of awareness of social issues or what so ever. GABBER HOUSE: Assosiated with the city and label Rotterdam in The Netherlands In this country people are just interested in soccer(!). Gabber House evolved as a sort of Techno for the Jocks. This of course had to be basically a Speed Metal-version of Techno. Gabber House is probably why the techno scene in Germany is accused of supporting Neo-Nazism. If you go to Rotterdam you'll be disappointed. The only technoclub plays a mixture of disco and GABBER HOUSE. TRIBAL TECHNO: Soft techno/house using real drum recordings. The main label is Wonka Sven Van Hees used to make most of these records, but he has now left the label, and the rumour is that he will now release records on R&S. The basic procedure is to take a guy who plays drums (all kinds of drums, the rarer the better) into the studio and press the recordbutton on the optical sampler and let the guy hammer for a while on his drums. Then you go through the sample and take out anything you like and build a track from there. BREAKCORE: Some people in Germany found out that the breakbeat-sound was useful after all. They started to program breakbeats (literally, it's not a break beat, but they are using that sound as a startingpoint). These programmed breakb eats have a very distinguished sound to them, different from sampled breakbeats. This has created a whole new style, BREAKCORE. It is also different from the English hardcore breakbeats, because it's not selling out, it's staying underground To program breakbeats good is extremely hard. And time-consuming. Then again, you have the style with sampled programmed breakbeats.. Major label: Force Inc HARDCORE: Not very existent in Europe right now. US-ravers seem to associate the term with anything Lenny D spins. Some scribbles:When I was in Norway I spun a mixture of Hartcore, Trance, Tribal, breakcore and acid. But when I came here I couldn't think about spinning real 180 BPM "hardcore" ever again (At least not here). WHY? Because the vibe the hardcore crowd has here is just disgusting. It seems like violence and rave is suddenly the same thing. If there had been a stage on any of these raves, people would stage-dive. People crash into each other and race all over the dancefloor. like complete nerds. If you want this you can go to a PUNK-concert. I stop spinning breakbeat because it didn't have any substance anymore (this is 9 months ago). I started spinning breakcore because it has a substance (4 months ago) In US, I+m not going to spin hardcore because here it has no substance. I respect other people and don't tell anybody what they should be like.But I don't respect people who don't respect me. When these people start going to raves, I say: GO UNDERGROUND. We don't need big raves if they turn into the real world -stuff. I like raves because they used to be different from the real world (this means non-violent, peaceful, funny, the FORCING OF A FUTURE THE WAY IT SHOULD BE. This should be our ideology. If you want comments on our lost world of today, you can listen to industrial or take a trip with the N-line into Brook lyn. This message was not meant to be inspired by the cut-up technique, but I guess it ended up looking like that because of my lousy, shitty, ugly account. DJ APPLEPIE, URBO IS MORE TURBO THAN TURBO BY THE WAY, ANY REACTIONS ARE GOOD REACTIONS [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Mon, 29 Mar 93 23:43:54 EST From: "Douglas B. Zimmerman" Subject: Sunshine Hey everyone, First and foremost i want to thank everyone who came to sunshine last Friday night. Thanks to everyone who spun the music, helped to set up the scene, brought their own equipment or just came to dance. It was a very special night. Susie and i agreed that our experiences for Sunshine were different so we would write different posts. So here goes. Susie and i have been fed up with a lot of what the D.C. rave scene has to offer. In particular i can remember one night when we went to cupid and we got to musicnow and asked people for rides to the place and no one offered to give us a lift. and we were eternally pissed off that night. Well anyways since dcraves had been started up back in December Susie had been planning a small get-together for dcravers of the list. I guess that idea mutated into one of throwing one on the mall in washington d.c. (we never really followed through on it) into having one on campus. Susie constantly tell me about all the cool raves that happen in San Francisco for free. One day susie and i walked around campus looking for a cool place to have a gathering. We decided on the Gianni lounge which was a neat place and had thrown get-togethers for the Black Student Alliance on campus in there. So with that got a form from student activities. Both of us being members of the school radio station (WVAU) wanted to use the radio station as the club sponsoring us for the room. The G.M. Scott said it was fine as long as it cost the radio station nothing. So in the insuing two weeks i ran around getting signatures and stuff to make sure we had the room confirmed, while also posting to the list on the Rave-o-matic and the Dc-rave-line asking if anyone would be willing to help out with the micro-rave. First off were the dj's. I was on v-rave one night, and ed horch was also on and i asked him if he would dj and he said yes as long as he had no conflicts. Susie got pat dote from san francisco to come down while on break in nyc. I asked gil (cyberpunk) if there were any dj's that went to U. of MD and he gave me the address of Thieu Le, who posted about dj'ing in the chill-out room at Monster Fest '93, and i repled to him asking if he would play and he said yes. A student at american u. Charles Monroe once had written me asking about information about raves. He is a house dj trying to find out more about the scene. I thought it would be interesting to have a house dj so i asked him if he would dj and he said sure. dj's havoc and pulse i had first met at this crummy rave that happened in d.c. in january called virtual overload. Havoc played this breakbeat set that was the best set of the night and after that i met up and talked with him. while waiting in line for cupid susie and i met up with him (eric) and his friend bobby (aka dj pulse). They were totally cool with the idea of dj'ing at the A.U. micro-rave. They were from Virginia. Laura (Dj Thirteen) replyed via e-mail that she would like to spin. And i was like: "cool! Laura will spin!" Later on Susie went to Triumverate Records in Laurel MD,and the in-house dj, donnie, agreed also to spin for it. So the dj list was set up. All the dj's were cool with spinning for free. We only had to pay for the tranportaion of Ed and Pulse and Havoc to get up to dc and back, which was minimal. With a dj lineup set things were looking cool. As for other effects Rob C. (i can't spell your last name rob :)from D.C. offered to set up his Virtual Environmemt gear. Ed was totally cool about offering to bring down his pair of 1200's, and tons of wire and electircal equipment. Laibach offered out of the blue to let us borrow his 400 watt professional amplifier which Albatross Susie and i drove at 4 in the morning to Baltimore to pick up :) I remembed at the pre-Masquerave party that the UMD crew held that Tom Edwards had a laser. I asked him if he would be willing to set it up, and along with thalax at UMD their laser collection. I remembered that it was way cool. Tina and vanessa from Boston were going to be in town the weekend of March 26th, and tina offered most graciously to buy candy and little treats for the event and hand them out. Tina came to the A.U. campus last monday to check out the room and susie and tina and i went to a thai resturant for dinner. You are most cool tina! Then lastly there was inhuman (michael). I remembered that him and buddies Ben Jaffee and Jed were totally into making excellent smart drinks and i sent a letter to inhuman and he was totally cool about helping out. But Michael went way and beyond the call of duty. He made and designed the most excellent rave flyers for the A.U. micro-rave (which susie came up with the name for one night: sunshine) that were totally amazing. Ben and Michael came to the A.U. campus a week before sunshine and saw the Gianni lounge where the event was going to be held and offered excellent suggestions on where to place everything. Michael also got a lot of his friends involved with coming in and helping set up and bring in things. One of his friends brought in a computer program with all these cool effects on it that looked most excellent. Also ben discovered that the door to the patio off the dance floor was open and it was a really cool space to go out , smoke if had to, and just cool out. I dont know how to thank you michael enuff! Thanks Jessica and Elliot also. A lot of other people wrote to both susie and i saying they would like to help out and set up, and things. Scott B., Fluid, Derek Tiffany, and so many people that i can't even remember right now :) The only worries susie and i had about the room was how long we could keep it going. Originally we requested the room till 6 a.m. but were told we could have the room until we wanted it. Another was whether we would have speakers. A few days before the event we finally confirmed that we would get the radio station's portable speakers. The night of the event Scum also offered to bring in his speakers and it turned out to be really cool sound. (Scum, we have your connector!) with the four speakers. So as the day approached i got progressively more worried. Basically i was convinced that practically no one would show up, the fuse would trip and just about everything imaginable would go wrong. The night before i was very irritable, and along with susie we irritated the hell out of each other. susie saying wayy to many people would show up and i complaining that no one would show up... Also i had a math test to study for which i knew nothing about. The next day was friday, and it was a most beautiful sunshiney day. After i flunked my math test the stress kind of releived itself. Michael came early to help set up, along with friend elliot. We went to an art store and bought supplies for and oil projection and crayons and paper for the chill-out room and then went to a supermarket to buy tons of juice for the smart bar and and other berries and stuff. It was an absolutely beautiful day, the nicest since i had gone to school here in dc (im a freshman) Tina and vanessa (a.k.a. jetta) also came early with a huge basket of candy:) And inbetween a break from getting back with michael and elliot to starting to set up the room i got vanessa and tina to sit down and view my kenya pictures (heh heh heh ;) which i love to make people do ;);) Called susie and she said that we had the room just after seven to start setting up in. When finally got there things were looking cool. Everyone there was working about helping to set the place up. The smart bar looked excellent especially with the added touch of ben's aquarium :). Michael's friend Alan brought in his cool computer with the set up of computer fracticals. The UMD crew made it over and carted in all this cool looking electronic stuff and lasers. It was all looking really cool! I had a big smile stuck to my face. They beamed one laser onto a wall and the other onto the cealing which created this excellent effect. Ed came in and took charge in setting up the speakers and the electronics. (he also had his 1200's in those cool carrying cases :) At around 10 p.m. the elevator broke down for a few hours which was necessary to get up to the 4th floor and Gianni.Went with michael and ben to pick up some cardboard to draw arrow signs on while they had to pick up something along with ice. So got back and with Jessica's help put up a whole bunch of arrows showing how to get up to sunshine using a stairway. At 11:00 everything started and Thieu Le started with his set. I was in charge of the dj line-up and wanted to start it off with a little house which Thieu Le ripped across. People started coming through thedoor and things looked way cool. The whole dj line up got kind-of messed up because the dj that was supposed to start, donnie hadn't shown up when expected, so Thieu Le graciously took the difficult job of starting out. Esp. cool was when he played "We are Family" Each of the dj's was cool about being calm about there sets. I dont know if the way it was set up was o.k. but basically i had a rough idea of who and when to play everyone. After Thieu Le was donnie with some breakbeat/hard and then laura with her hardcore set (which i did not hear cause i was outside with vanessa handing out flyers for sunshine :( ) Then after laura was havoc with some wild breakbeat set. then pulse with his hard trance. Pat dote was supposed to play after dj chuck (charles) but he had to leave earlier so he played before chuck. Charles actually got bumped around a lot and he was supposed to play around three, but ended up around five playing. Pat's set was very cool acid jazz/sf music. Chuck played house, and ed ended the evening with a very nice trance set. There were of course a few problems: ed's set had to face a few problems. The American U. security came up and basically told us to get the hell out of the room A.S.A.P. so we had to start disasembling during ed's set which i am most sorry for cause it was excellent. Before ed's set was chuck's and earlier in the night was thieu le's set which were house. I wasn't sure how the crowd would react to the house, but it appeared as if it went over well. (Ed what was that song you started your set with?) So there was a diverse amount of music for the night. Everyone there was way cool. There was total friendliness and no attitude or things like that. Everyone was cool and seemed to be having a good time. And finally got a chance to meet a lot of those ravers who only have been seen behind their e-mail addresses. I think there were 23 dcravers. Way cool! We left the room rather spotless :) so things looked cool. But we did forget to take down a few things :) After that an after/crash/party in susie's room which was way cool. I think that susie and i just about broke even. If we have any profits we are going to buy some records for the WVAU radio station record collection. Sunshine was a very very special night for me personally. I really didn't think that things would go as smoothly as they did. Its too bad we didn't have more people. About 100 people showed up for the night and was hoping for around 150. But as long as everyone who was there had a good time things were cool. I guess we just didn't have enough money to do the all-out flyering to attract more american u. students. The ones that did come thought it was cool. Dj Neuromancer came by (he is a student at American U.) and thought the set-up was excellent. My bigest thanks goes to susie. It was totally a team-work job that we did. It was totally fun. She is much better at communicating and all those things th en i am and totally was the best and took charge when things had to be done. We each were able to do separate jobs and our working together compliment each other. Sunshine was a total trip. I now find myself in my mind in a total peaceful land out in an open field walking among the rolling hills chasing the setting sun and the last of the sunshine. in a state of bliss... doug ))))) a b00mingg baSS for a l0ving rave ((((( dz5401a@american.edu thanks everyone for a wonderful time :):):) [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1993 00:24:59 -0500 (EST) From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: BREAKBEAT SUPPORT On Mon, 29 Mar 1993, damian@cislabs.pitt.edu wrote: > Almost ANYTHING can be used in creative ways to make it sound good! > For example, some people *hate* diva samples. But someone out there can > probably take a diva sample, fuck it up and screw with it, and make it > sound fresh again. Look at the 303. That sound has been used *so many > times* (at least as many as breakbeats) that it should be *played out* by > now. But the thing is, people keep coming along and make that acid > squiggle go crazy and keep "updating" that classic sound. > > The thing is.....I feel that some of you "purists" out there should > wake up and stop bashing breakbeats. The new shit coming out of the UK > and Germany (Force Inc and Reinforced come to mind as ground breaking > labels) is taking breakbeat in a new direction. Some of the new shit is > harder then some *hardcore* (shock..gasp). Surprised? Don't be. Breakbeats > will *always* be around...maybe even when the days of the old Roland modules > have passed. > > *** OPEN YOUR FUCKING EYES AND ENJOY EVERYTHING MUSIC HAS TO OFFER *** > Yeah!!!!!!! YEAH!!!!!! FINALLY! dieselBoy awakens!!! Itsa bout time!! You tell them dieselBoy! That was very well said. I like Hardcore and Breakbeat. I like Breakcore and Hardbeat, I don't really care for Ambient but that's only because I have to be in the right mood for it.Yet all this said, you don't see me talking about how much I hate "weak ass ambient where there may not be a beat for 10 minutes". No, because I have an open mind, open enough to give it a chance and I've found that you discover new things you like by doing that. Joe (187- Mobile Live Techno Vibes) [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1993 04:12:09 -0500 (EST) From: Mark J Chan Subject: MUTATION To any of you NERAVERS out there... Pittsburgh is having their first major "underground" event on April 9 from 10 to 5. So - if you have nothing better to do, and have never seen picturesque Pittsburgh.. Now is your chance.... 5 bucks at the door...etc. etc... COME OUT AND HELP US SHOW PITTSBURGHERS WHAT A RAVE IS ALL ABOUT. REPLY TO ME FOR FURTHER INFORMATION. MARK [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1993 17:32 EST From: Luff Subject: the sun still shines.... Even though the sun never actually "rose" (and still hasn't!), Sunshine was still beautiful...kudos and wfs to Doug and Susie who pulled off an amazing event at American this weekend! The afterparty (hee hee) was a real hit, too...great to meet everyone--i.e. Inhuman, Mikey, Ben Jaffe, Ed, Laura (say 'lo to S(c)ummit for me! and others whose names slip my mind for the moment... As everyone said, the set-up was great--chillout room and all...and all the djs played absolutely fabulous sets...'cept i think i missed yours, laura...:( so there--now you have to try it again so i can actually hear you! :) (some incentive, aye?) Keepin' it short, just sending lots of luff and wfs to everyone who went and had a great time! :) -Jetta p.s. Fluid--did you ever get your silly ode? :) [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1993 09:39:13 -0500 (EST) From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Pittsburgh! MUTATION On Tue, 30 Mar 1993, Mark J Chan wrote: > To any of you NERAVERS out there... Pittsburgh is having their first major > "underground" event on April 9 from 10 to 5. So - if you have nothing better > to do, and have never seen picturesque Pittsburgh.. Now is your chance.... > 5 bucks at the door...etc. etc... Yeah, it's beautiful here this time of year at the three rivers. Maybe if enough people decide they're comming we could setup a small pre-rave gathering at the point. (For those of you who don't know Pittsburgh, the point is a place in downtown Pittsburgh where the three rivers come together. There's a big park called Point State Park there with a big fountain and even a fort from the French-Indian war.) Ya'll should come down and bring picinic baskets. If you plan on comming down and like this idea or just need a place to crash before driving back, Email me. >COME OUT AND HELP US SHOW PITTSBURGHERS WHAT A RAVE IS ALL ABOUT. Well some of us know, at least a good 900-1000 people know. We've been doing raves since January of last year. The first one was a fire hall and 800 showed up, remmember? And for you Ne-Ravers who still need a good reason to come: dieselBoy is spinning and I am doing a live set so you oughta stop down. Joe [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 30 Mar 1993 12:31:32 -0400 (EDT) From: DJESRANI@CENTER.COLGATE.EDU Subject: Nebula III I went to Nebula III this Saturday. I got there at around 1:00, so things were going. Lots of locals were there (because Scott Richmond publicized the event in all of the local highschools) - most of 'em left after about 2:30 though. The only NE-Raver I saw there was Tony (AIsomething@albnyvms.BITNET) - as if I know what any of you look like (with the exception of Taylor, Laura, and John).. Anyway, there were four rooms.. 1) Hardcore/Breakbeat room - this was the room you walked through uponb entering.. Crowded, hardly any light at all (except for the one which was shinining in my eyes when I walked in, so I couldn't see shit..). Good sound system. 2) Chill Out Area - No music, diner like atmosphere with bar-stools (in front of the smart bar of course), and vinyl couches. People socializing, hanging out.. It was cool. 3) Progressive/Tribal House floor - This was where I lived the entire event.. Crowded at times, but I really liked the music, although I had no idea who was spinning (because the DJ never ID'd himself).. Cool vibe. Tony knows.. I met a really friendly raver from NJ (Trenton) named Dawn.. Sweetheart - she and her friends increased the vibe exponentially. 4) More breakbeat - They opened this floor, I think, out of necessity - because the rest of the place was really crowded and I bet more DJs showed up and wanted to spin. That was a good move on their parts - just the right amount of people on the floor. All in all it was really fun. Scott Richmond and Bill Kraemer threw a good party - I encourage you to come to Nebula IV and V - quality (!) music, good lights, great sound systems.. The only thing I'm concerned about is the size - I don't want these events to become huge affairs.. Darshan [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1993 12:32:17 -0500 (EST) From: Alan Michael Parry Subject: Tripout.. Tripotronic was incredible....I still havent recovered. We left American University (myself, Doug, Susie, Sparkle) and sped down to Music Now around 11:45pm. We got out tickets and then made our way to Baltimore. The location was really nice - the same that SPIRAL had been in. I love this place..a long warehouse seperated into three areas by rows of columns with huge green laser dancing down the center aisle. Quickly met up with some other ne-ravers like Mikey, Mars, and I went outside for a bit to check out the tent they had. The tent was a 360 degree visual immersion unit with some incredible effects etc. It was nice to be able to stand outside for a while too. Anyway, after a less than entertaining performance by GLITCH, I noticed that Richard James was sitting beneath the turnatables and would be spinning next. After a quick introduction "Batimore...all the way from the UK...the Aphex Twwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwiiin" a head appeared above the turntables. Then began the most mind-blowing, brain-crunching, ear-twisting, eye-poking set that I have ever heard in my life. Nothing can ever compare - I know that I will probably never see anything like this again. First of all, about 85% of his 2 hour set was spent on his knees..he didnt even stand up! just a head a little above the turntables, eyes fixed on some far off point or closed while matching beats etc. All the time he was spiunning, there were about 3-4 guys with video cameras recording this incredible moment on tape.He played very trancey stuff but would then introduce the UK style Breakcore and the transitions seemes effortless..it all sounded so natural. Never has a set had so many ups and down...it is all so hard to describe. Everything else seemed almost worthless after he's finished. He ended with a very housey/bluesy saxaphone song which was very soothing to hear but I didnt want it to end. Definatley something I will never forget. Anyway, about half an hour later I noticed him standing to the side and went over and introduced myself. He was a really nice guy - we talked for about 15 minutes about home, Future, the rave, aphex twin, lots of stuff. I was dissapointed to here about Future but I was kind of expecting it. He was very unimpressed by Tripotronic and stated that he and Jeff Mills were very angry at the Tripo people for the more quality of the sound and some technical difficulties they were having. In the middle of his set, one of the Tripo crew reached over him to play with the leads causes a huge amount of feedback to surge through the speakers. I also told him abount ne-raves and that that i had spoke to his friend, ben, over the computer a few times and he was really impressed :) :) Scott Henry came on around 6:00 and span some really goos stuff but he too was having some problems and I saw him shouting at one of the Tripo crew a few times. We finally left around 7:30 I think and headed back to DC and to bed. The combination of Sunshine/Triptotronic/Aphex Twin made this a weekend I will never forget... I havent stopped smiling yet.. *hug* to all...... --Fluid [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Subject: Re: Future, etc... From: Michael S Yang Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1993 13:16:37 -0500 Again, I must second what Fluid said so eloquently and verbosely (ok, Fluid, flame me for saying that... :) TripO was great --- so maybe the crowd just didn't have the vibe, but for someone who can have a great time chilling alone or in a group, it was bliss. Not to mention that I did meet quite a few new people there... The Aphex Twin was spectacular, and most of the rest of the line-up was almost as impressive. Except for that little, shall we say, Glitch? :P Not the best music nor the most entertaining people... Regarding those of you who are/might be coming to Future... With the amount of NE/SE/DC Ravers that are probably going to be coming (back me up, all), we should have a good time no matter who/what is there. And if anyone needs a crash space, bring a sleeping bag and some blankets -- my floor is your floor :) mikeY -- | * * * Home of the Rave-baby * * * || _| _| _| _| | | What did you say? || _| _ _ _| _| _|_| _|_| | | Did you say flame bait? || _||_| _| _| _|_| _|___| _| | | (OK, so I change my sig a lot) || _| _| _| _| _| _| _| _| | | e-mail -- mikey@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu || _| _| _| _| _| _| _|_| _| | [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: Nicole E Stanbridge Subject: unsubscribe Date: Tue, 30 Mar 93 16:38:28 EST please unsubscribe me. but i'll be back thank you [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 30 Mar 93 15:44:31 EST From: Matt Subject: Nebula 3 Well, Last week I said that Nebula 3 was to be my choice of rave for this past weekend. I sincerely hope that no one went to it because of what I said, although I know that I haven't established any clout yet anyway. Before I forget, sorry Jeannie, I didn't see your message until today (Tuesday), but I went down by bus, if it matters still. The reasons I went to Nebula 3, instead of Dune, were that Dune seemed to be having problems keeping its DJs (the first flyers said Keoki would spin), and it sounded like it was going to be a low-budget sell-out event, according to a couple friends involved in the Providence scene. I didn't go, however, so I can't comment on how it actually was. The reason I didn't go to any other rave happening this last Saturday was that they were too far away for a kid from Providence to go to. Given, I'm now on my spring break, but I don't have the money for a weekend trip to Baltimore or New York City. The bus to Poughkeepsie was expensive enough. The reason I ruled Green Eggs and Ham out was that I'm a hardcore, and it seemed that Nebula 3 was were the hardcore would be at on Saturday. Lenny Dee, On-E (who I've heard usually plays breakbeats, but played a killer hardcore set at BLUE), DJ Spy, and others were supposed to be there. Plus, I love break- beats too, and with Overload,and the possibility of On-E playing a breakbeat set, it seemed as though I would be set for the night. Well, when I got to Nebula 3, the first thing I experienced was a load of attitude from the door people. They thought that their sags and Fresh Jive shit gave them the right to be assholes to me. I bit my tongue, though, and walked into a room packed with people. The scene seemed to be more alternative than rave, but that's cool if they're cool. The system was nice and loud, and had adequate bass. Overload was doing his breakbeats, and everyone seemed to be having a good time. In the adjoining room was the chillout/smart bar area. It looked like it was full of people hitting on each other. Down stairs was yet another room, in which it sounded like house/ambient/trance was being spun. I'm not sure which, because those aren't my cup of tea, and I didn't hang out for too long. There was one more room that I was aware of. Outside, and around the corner of the building was a stairway to a room downstairs in which the hardcore was being spun for the moment. I didn't know who the DJ was, but he was spinning a mediocre set, with a lot of old hardcore, and the system wasn't very good either, so I went back upstairs, outside, and around the corner to listen to the end of Overload's set. Needless to say, the layout was terrible. Not only were the rooms small and packed with too many people to dance openly, but the promoters (Scott and Bill) had the great idea to move the themes (i.e. hardcore, breakbeat, trance, etc.) from room to room whenever there was to be a DJ switch. So what they did when Overload was finished and Lenny Dee came on, was move the breakbeats to another room and put Lenny Dee in the main room. That wasn't a bad idea at the time, I thought, since Lenny Dee would be spinning in the main room, which had the best system and most space. Well, Lenny Dee started off his set like he usually does, with something that is a little softer than the HARDcore that he usually spins. He started to get annoyed, however, when idiots kept bumping into the DJ booth and his record kept skipping. Bill tried to keep the dancers away from the booth, but most didn't pay any attention to him. There was one guy who looked like a giant ape with Lollapallooza dreadlocks who kept swinging his arms around and hitting the booth during all of Lenny Dee's set. It was obvious that Lenny Dee was pissed because he spun an entire set of almost completely unmixed hardcore, alternat- ing the softer hardcore with his HARDcore. No one seemed to catch on, however, no matter how much Lenny Dee screwed with his set. After Lenny Dee was finish- ed spinning, I went up to Lenny Dee and appologized for all the shit he had to put up with during his set. He sighed and told me that all the shit he kept having to deal with didn't allow him to get into his set too much, and that he was sorry that didn't spin better than he did. He hung out for a few minutes, and in the Lenny Dee fashion, he left soon after the next DJ started spinning. I've seen Lenny Dee a couple of times, and I have friends who have seen him a few times also, and all I can say is that he's always done an amazing set, and of all the DJs I've ever watched, I know he gets into the stuff he spins the most. If he fucked around as much as he did at Nebula 3, the crowd must have pissed him off a lot. Next on the turntables was Poughkeepsie's own Scott Richmond, who, remember, was one of the two organizers of the event. Scott spun the biggest mix of stuff I have ever heard in my life. He starter out with a fairly hard song, followed it up with a breakbeat, put a little hardtrance in, spun another track of hardcore, and went on like that for about half-an-hour or forty-five minutes. Not only did he spin a completely random set, but he looked like he was afraid to mix, period. He would throw a record on, and while it was play- ing he would dissappear under the turntable stand where his records were until the record that was playing was almost over. Then he would throw another record on and fade one into the other, not matching beats or anything. I've heard some dubs of Scott's show off of Vassar's radio station, and he mixes pretty damn well during that. Also, Scott DJs trance at NASA, so I don't know what the hell was up with him. Next was the most interesting part of the entire night. About a half-hour or forty-five minutes into Scott's set, the fire alarm went off! At first there was a little bit of confusion, but the people working the "rave" managed to shuffle all the "ravers" outside, into the rain, in a quick manner. We stood out in the rain for about forty-five minutes, after which they took us into the room downstairs where the hardcore was being played before Lenny Dee's set began. We waited a while there until they got the system and lights working again, and DJ Dmitry started his set. For all the shit that happened that night, it seemed that the crowd really got a groove going. I don't get into the kind of stuff that Dmitry spun, but I did enjoy watching others groove to his set. Unfortunately, after Dmitry spun for a half-hour, Scott announce over the system that someone had once again pulled the fire alarm, and the fire marshall was closing Nebula 3 dowm for good. Besides the problems already listed, Scott and Bill had a big problem with the lighting. The strobes that they had set up in the main room weren't real strobes at all, but were just rapidly flashing spots that blinded and dis- oriented anyone that was facing them. This was bad enough by itself, but there was also a lot of traffic through the room, and those people, along with the dancers and the big, dreadlocked ape, made the dance floor more of a mosh pit, as the disoriented people would end up falling over each other when the lights flashed. I and a few others asked Bill and other people on the staff to fix or turn off the lights, but they never did. This was part of what ruined the vibe during Lenny Dee's set, I'm sure. Also, I'd swear that Scott either pulled the fire alarm himself or told some- one to pull it the first time it went off. There were so many complaints about the lighting, and his set stunk so much that he thought that was the only way to get out of it. I'm kidding, of course, but I can't imagine what would have happened if we had to put up with the rest of Scott's set. Finally, the first thing that Bill and Scott did after they re-opened the down-stairs-outside-and-around-the-corner-room was open the alcohol bar. Thank god no one gave them any business, but I'm sure you'll all agree that it's the principle of the whole thing that matters. It seems that the location of Nebula 3, all three rooms plus the smart bar, was Bertie's Sports Bar. This is a strange location to hold a rave, and I'm sure the decision to hold it there was made in an equally strange manner. Scott and Bill never seemed to have their shit together, and they had a lot of stupid misconceptions about how to organize and throw a rave, although they did have their DJs and soundsystems down. As bad as it was though, I've heard from a lot of people that this was much better than the last two Nebula raves, and I hope that they keep getting better. The Fresh Blend [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 30 Mar 93 16:54:52 EST From: djm@bedford.progress.COM (Dave McMahon) Subject: Re: Nebula III > From DJESRANI@CENTER.COLGATE.EDU Tue Mar 30 12:34:51 1993 > were going. Lots of locals were there (because Scott Richmond publicized > the event in all of the local highschools) - most of 'em left after about So that's what all that was. Strange crowd. It reminded me of the Loft at points. (yechhhh! :( ) > 1) Hardcore/Breakbeat room - this was the room you walked through uponb > entering.. Crowded, hardly any light at all > (except for the one which was shinining in my > eyes when I walked in, so I couldn't see shit..). Good sound system. This is where I was for most of the night. I got there around 12ish. I saw Overload standing outside talking to the door people and said Hi. The music coming out of the main room was the standard-fare breakbeat. I paid my $10 and walked in. It was a long narrow, kinda falling apart cafeteria looking thing. I'd say it was about 100 feet long and about 15 feet wide. Very dark, very loud. I think there were maybe 2 intelebeams on each end of the room not putting out much light at all. "Just the way I like it", I said to the people I was with as we walked in. I wish I knew the techy side of things so I could do justice to the sound system they had. All I can say is "WOW". They had four monster, towering black idols for me to pray to all night long. The hardcore from some DJ that I never heard of started about 15 minutes after I got there and lasted for about 45 minutes. Then Overload came on and they moved the Hardcore people downstairs to this other bar that opened for us because the main floor was getting too crowded. My friends and I stayed downstairs for about another hour. Then it happened. Lenny D came on upstairs. Alot of the crowd must have moved to the other arenas because it really emptied out and there was plenty o' room to move!! :) Myself and the two people I came with firmly planted ourselves in front of the two largest speakers at the front of the room and proceeded to be captivated and moved to a new place within ourselves over the next 2 hours. I learned a great personal truth this weekend with regards to raving and music. I have the BEST time when there are no distractions. I didn't know anybody there except for the 2 people I brought. There were no bright lights and flashy things to watch. The room, overall, was VERY dark and the music was VERY VERY loud. Boston offers a nice scene to hang out and be social in for me, but the NY Hardcore and, in particular, this type of setting offers me a spiritual experience matched by nothing. I have not been so moved since the parties in NYC last summer/fall. I look forward to more experiences like this one in the coming months. Oh, BTW, this party was broken up at 4am because some idiot pulled the fire alarm in the place. We were moved outside to stand in the rain for an hour while the promoters fought with the fire marshall. The party was eventually moved downstairs to that "extra club" they opened up for space. DJ Dimitry came on and spun extrememly boring, old prog house until the fire alarm went off again and the party was broken up for good. > All in all it was really fun. Scott Richmond and Bill Kraemer threw a good > party - I encourage you to come to Nebula IV and V - quality (!) music, good > lights, great sound systems.. The only thing I'm concerned about is the > size - I don't want these events to become huge affairs.. Ditto. The bust was not the fault of the promoters. I hope the idiot who pulled the fire alarm 3 times gets what's coming to him. I would easily take the 4 hours of bliss that I experienced at this party for 12+ hours of ANYTHING I've done in the last 6 months since the last STORM I went to in September. I can't wait for the next NEBULA party. AMAZING... Absolutely AMAZING. dave. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Subject: breakbeat bashing Date: Tue, 30 Mar 93 17:21:27 EST From: SHALAKO (technokachina) amen, damian! breaks are where it's at. creative, mindfuck beats that take all your energy just to keep up with...all the way to trancy, loving, daisy-tossing, diva wailing, arms-in-the-air having, speaker worshiping, BREAKS. ;) "four on the floor hardcore....you know the bore!" na-na-na-na-na-na! :) lovE...pEAcE...rAvE! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ .never.stop.dancing.loving.thinking.sharing.hugging.smiling.listening.raving. S H A L A K O < < t e c h n o k a c h i n a > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ .ambient.trance.hard-trance.loveliness-jungle-tribal.rudest-raw-breaks. .mindfuck-acieeed.wicked-roots-spiritual-raggamuffin.progressive-house. .music for the mind, body, and soul, brothers and sisters. sscoen@athena.mit.edu shannon coen 617.225.8317 410 memorial drive cambridge, ma. 02139 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 30 Mar 93 17:09 EST From: laura@usl.com Subject: re: nebula 3 Matt from Brown says: >Scott and Bill never seemed to have their shit together, and they had a lot of >stupid misconceptions about how to organize and throw a rave, although they did >have their DJs and soundsystems down. As bad as it was though, I've heard from >a lot of people that this was much better than the last two Nebula raves, and >I hope that they keep getting better. Scott Richmond was the brains behind the 3 "Sattlelite Raves" held last fall. Sputnik I in Newburgh, Sputnik II (one of the best raves of the fall) in Wayne, NJ, and Explorer I in Westchester Co. somewhere. It's a shame to hear that Nebula 3 didn't go as well, because he certainly has shown a lot of us that he is a very talented event organizer (regardless of what you think of his personality :-) ). Sputnik II was almost a transcendent event. So Darshan or anyone who knows Scott personally and has talked to him recently, what's the deal? Laura [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1993 17:29:55 EST From: GOREHAMJ%AM.mrgate@aspen.ulowell.edu Subject: LearningThis From: NAME: GOREHAMJ To: ne-raves@gnu.ai.mit.edu@internet Am I here? Jax [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1993 17:32:33 -0500 From: Joe Turner Subject: Re: Smart Drinks and Drugs >There's an interesting article on smart drugs in last Friday's Boston >Phoenix. The author is generally in favor of them. Generally?? The guy says he swears by them. I agree, it IS a very good article. /joe -|-|-|-|-|-|/\-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|- Joe Turner < > cutter@cs.umb.edu \/ The hunt is on to find the fox. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1993 17:59:55 -0500 (EST) From: Alan Michael Parry Subject: MICHAEL MEACHEM SPEAKS AGAIN.. Just got off the telephone with MM and heres how it went.. 1.The Aphex Twin deal. I didnt mention at first that Richard had already told me he woudnt be playing - I just asked what the deal was as of now. He said that he spoke with Richard Thursday and is was now questionable whether or not he would play saying that Richard was having problems with his management. I then told him what Richard had told me and he said that he wont be there. A replacement act is already lined up - The Source. He said it was very unfortunate that this happened as it happened to him last time too with Apotheosis. NRG, he stated, will be there. 2.Vrave. He sounded very enthusiastic about this if we can get the technical sides covered such as a phone line etc etc. Not sure how this will work though he is definately interested if we can get our stuff together. I will be speaking to him again when I get some more information on this. All in all he sounded very nice, very friendly. He did not try to tell me that Aphex will be performing. He said that the incident with Onionz was unfortunate and was his fault. He stated that this was never meant to be underground by any means and said it was always gonna be the english style big commercial event. I will be there, I wont be sneaking in, and i will enjoy myself :) --Fluid [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: pashdown@slack.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown) Subject: XDZebra Review #26 Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1993 16:21:33 -0700 (MST) XDZebra Review #26 BPMs! The "dance factor" grew more useless over time as my collection of styles broadened, so they've been tossed in favor of BPM readings. Addiction 266 Delmar Ct. Salt Lake City, UT 84101-1817 When in Utah call the T A S T E hotline 801-461-3375. Trying to find these releases? Try Ear/Rational Music: FAX 805/893-8553, Phone 805/564-4949, email angst%cs@hub.ucsb.edu Back issues are available from me by mail or by ftp'ing to soda.berkeley.edu. They're in the pub/sfraves/music directory. This is all my opinion. Flames against a review are pretty pointless, so don't bother. Let me know if you have any other comments though. BPMs provided courtesy of Eric Pederson's BPM calculator for the Sparc. XDZebra Reviews may be reproduced without permission under one condition, they remain intact and unchanged. If you publish this in print, mail me a copy via "Addiction". ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Review #26 Contents: Meat Beat Manifesto: Mindstream Excursions in Ambience - A Collection of Ambient-House Music Ambient Dub Volume 2. Earthjuice. A Compilation Album Trancefusion Elevation: Can You Feel It/Spiral Trance CJ Bolland: The 4th Sign The Grid: Crystal Clear Renegade Soundwave: Women Respond to Bass Meat Beat Manifesto: Mindstream Play It Again Sam: BIAS 232CD / BIAS 232CDR Disc 1: 1 130 04:14 Mindstream (Stream of Consciousness Mix) 2 130 06:21 Mindstream (Psychedelically Speaking) 3 141 06:56 Mindstream (The Aphex Twin Remix) 4 123 05:15 Original Control (Electro The Robot) (92 bpm intro) Disc 2: 1 130 08:26 Mindstream (Mind the Bend the Mind) 2 130 04:45 Mindstream (Fire Escape Version) 3 103 07:20 Paradise Found Comments: Groovey as funk mixes par usual Meat Beat Manifesto. The original "Mindstream" didn't thrill me much. The vocals are rather weak and don't add much to the instrumental backing. Not surprisingly, the best mixes on these two discs are the ones which don't use the lyrics much. "Stream" manages a country mix, "Psych" drops most of the vocals for some swirling sounds and even a bit of chipmunk samples, "Aphex" is rather standard Aphex, but still has an incredible beat, "Mind the Bend" is Orbital's entry with over five minutes of wild Orbitalesque sound before the lyrics kick in. Finally, "Fire Escape" pays homage to disco with a funky beat and a 70's bass. My favorite mix of all though, is the DHS mix of "Original Control". Head spinning DHS manipulation of sound and beat loops, plus samples from my favorite track on the Satyricon album. Summary: 9/10. I paid $18 for this import, which meant two discs, two weeks, and another copy of "Paradise Found". In other words, buy the domestic for $5. Excursions in Ambience - A Collection of Ambient-House Music Caroline: CAROL 1733-2 1 101 06:10 Tranquility Bass: Mya Yadana 2 125 05:10 The Future Sound of London: Calcium 3 128 06:34 Higher Intelligence Agency: Solid Motion (Black Hole Mix) 4 115 05:12 Ultramarine: Saratoga (Upstate Mix) 5 125 07:35 Psychedelic Research Lab: Tarenah 6 129 08:11 Psychick Warriors of Gaia: Obsidian (Deconstructure Edit) 7 119 06:08 777: Mia (The Fisherman Mix) 8 127 05:05 It's Thinking: Afterglow 9 101 06:51 Banco de Gaia: Desert Wind (El Ahram Mix) 10 115 02:47 Sub Sub: Past Comments: With names like this, it is hard to go wrong, and I have a hard time trying to find anything wrong with this compilation. Sure, the original "Deconstructure" of "Obsidian" is great, but it is also 20 minutes long. "Calcium" by FSOL is nothing new, but I wasn't upset at hearing it again. Exist Dance has been recognized with the "Mya Yadana" and what a beautiful piece it is, replete with baby sounds and samples about the Madonna. Fine remixes of fine originals are present with Ultramarine and Banco de Gaia. The most pleasent surprise for me was the Sub Sub track "Past". It is silky smooth with a nice guitar overlay, not extremely shakeable, but it sure feels good going through your head. Summary: 10/10. Nothing wrong with this compilation, and at a domestic price this is the best domestic ambient-house collection yet. Ambient Dub Volume 2. Earthjuice. A Compilation Album Beyond Records: RBADCD3 1 92 07:02 Original Rockers: DeMat DubRim 2 108 06:22 The Higher Intelligence Agency: W.H.Y. 3 119 05:47 The Higher Intelligence Agency: Speed Learn 4 124 05:13 Original Rockers: Underwater World of Jah Custeau (Groove Corp) 5 97 06:45 G.O.L.: Soma Holiday 6 82 05:06 G.O.L.: No Bounds 7 94 06:52 Banco de Gaia: Shanti 8 120 07:33 Banco de Gaia: Lai Lah (Deeply Sirius Mix) 9 112 05:09 A.P.L.: The Calling 10 120 04:46 A.P.L.: Universal Message 11 120 16:31 Insanity Sect.: Subliminal Air Comments: Although not as widely spread as Volume 1, Volume 2 continues the tradition with highly original tracks. I still have a distaste for Original Rockers, their work is just too much on the reggae side to move me at all. G.O.L. once again shows us what Phantasia was missing with cosmic poetry that borders on the edge of silly but still sounds good. They also manage to push the BPMs down into the nether regions but still produce something funky enough to dance to. A.P.L. and Insanity Sect give us deeply trancey movers. Finally, Banco de Gaia, my favorite returns with a lacking track "Shanti" and a way cool trance that moves all over the place with "Lai Lah". Summary: 8/10. Almost as good as the original, but still holds up the standard well. Trancefusion Sonic/Instinct: SNC-2021-2 1 126 05:28 Violet Force: Planet E. 2 130 05:29 High Lonesome Sound System: Waiting For The Lights 3 134 05:05 Happy as Hell: Mean Go Getter 4 137 05:12 The Nighttripper: Tone Exploitation 5 128 05:57 The Odd Company: We Are Experienced! 6 124 07:56 The Irresistible Force: Space is the Place 7 120 06:32 Trancesetters: Fantasizing 8 145 04:50 Reality Studio: Utopia 9 127 11:54 Orbital: The Naked And The Dub 10 145 06:01 Niko: Always 11 130 06:12 Westbam: Let Yourself Go 12 128 04:41 Paradise 3000: Normizon 5am Comments: Sonic and Instinct's first attempt at a trance compilation. Besides the Violet Force and High Lonesome Sound System tracks, this is a rather standard entry. The other tracks are good, but not fantastic. One of note is the ever changing "Space is the Place" which this time has some really great backing rhythms and various samples of people singing or talking about space. The main problem with this comp is that several of the tracks have been available for quite a while. "Utopia" by "Reality Studio" is cool, but almost too Euro for my taste. Niko's "Always" is a slick transition from trance into hardcore. Other than that, none of the others really caught my ear. Summary: 6/10. Domestic price though. If you don't already own everything on here, it might be a good buy. Elevation: Can You Feel It/Spiral Trance Novamute: CD NOMU3 1 136 05:36 Can You Feel It (Mutation Mix) 2 136 06:43 Can You Feel It (Extended Mix) 3 126 04:56 Spiral Trance (Into The Light Mix) 4 136 04:43 Can You Feel It (Remix) Comments: As much as I now hate the acidic "Dominator" sound, Elevation manages to put it to good use. On top of that, the wailing diva isn't bad as well. Elevation's forte though is their use of breaks. Each remix has a unique blend of breakbeats and hardcore that really moves you. The piano riff is cool as well. "Spiral Trance" uses a short Enya sample, then jumps into more hardcore, nothing spectacular. Summary: 7/10. Good, but rather cliched and pop techno in style. CJ Bolland: The 4th Sign R&S: 92024 CD 1 140 06:45 Mantra 2 138 04:58 Nightbreed 3 153 07:21 Thrust 4 150 06:37 Aquadrive 5 143 06:45 Pendulum 6 151 05:09 Spring Yard 7 138 06:30 Camargue 8 144 06:07 Inside-Out 9 154 10:02 Jungle Man Comments: CJ Bolland stands with the Aphex Twin and very few others as the only hardcore I can listen to anymore. No sampled soundbites are used in his music, for the most part, his instruments and rhythms aren't sampled as well. Also, like Richard James his sound is largely dependent on analog technology. With this, his first album, he presents some excellent tracks, but little variety. He shows a lot of innovation, but little range. "Camargue" is a slightly trancey break from an album that is all hardcore. Summary: 8/10. Good solid hardcore, but that is about all. Why is this packaged in a half CD case? The Grid: Crystal Clear Virgin: VSCDT 1442 1 128 03:42 Crystal Clear (Prankster Prophet Edit) 2 128 07:40 Crystal Clear (Prankster Prophet Mix) 3 128 07:46 Crystal Clear (Prankster Trance Dance) 4 123 04:38 Crystal Clear (Trimar Mix) 5 133 08:28 Crystal Clear (Clear, Like An Unmuddied Lake) 6 133 07:18 Crystal Clear (The Crystal Clear Water Revival) Comments: This track has one of the most catchy, yet simple melodies I've heard in a while. It works well in endless repetition and with the bassline travels from remix to remix in a good fashion. The Orb finally shuts off the faucet to give us some "Blue Room" like rhythm and typical odd samples, it felt good to have a dancey Orb remix again. My favorite is the "Trimar Mix", with a casual Susan Vega like female vocal singing, "Boom shaka boom shaka" it hooks you in a subtle way. Too bad this particular mix is so relatively short. Summary: 9/10. Solid original with a good variety in remixing. Renegade Soundwave: Women Respond to Bass Mute: CD MUTE 147 1 120 03:58 Women Respond to Bass (Pro-Sounds 7" Edit) 2 120 05:09 Women Respond to Bass (Women Respond to Terror Drums) 3 120 05:58 Women Respond to Bass (Women Respond in Heaven) 4 122 07:14 RSW Megamix - Lesson 1 (Vocals by Pascale Feuille) Comments: Although I found the original album version to have an amusing title, it was one of the of the more lackluster tracks on "In Dub". With this single, RSW has revamped "Women Respond" and thrown a sexy female vocal on top. Along with plenty of french lyrics, the joke is apparent, but works well. Each remix isn't drastically different, but uses the new vocals in different manners. The "RSW Megamix" stands as one of the best megamixes I've ever heard. Usually these things are crap, but RSW manages to do a large presentation of their past work in flowing seamless mix. Summary: 7/10. The mixes tend to be samey, but are a drastic improvement over the original. Worth it for the megamix alone. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Subject: Re: breakbeat bashing Date: Tue, 30 Mar 93 18:30:14 EST From: SHALAKO (technokachina) you know, laura- you don't have to treat me like the only style of music i like is breakbeat, just because i defend it...in fact, i like almost everything...as long as the mood of the track keeps me in a smile or eyes-closed arms in the air trance. you know laura- i have even on occasion liked a "hardcore" track or two...especially aphex twin stuff- and i always play my harthouse hardtrance stuff on +8... the point is that i'm not anti-hardcore, it's just that there's so much hardcore that is "kill the nazi's" (not a bad thought, bad definitely a mad mood) or "alles naar de klute" : screaming and heavy metal guitar samples and such just plain sound evil [to me], that's all there is to it. if the track (no matter how fast, or how hard) IS INTERESTING IN ITS CONTENT, MAKES MY MIND START THINKING, MAKES MY SPIRIT AND SOUL SOAR OUT OF MY MIND AND BODY AND INTO THE MUSIC, OR PUTS A SMILE ON MY FACE AND A SWING IN MY HIPS, I LOVE IT! i've actually heard hardcore that does one or more of these things, and hardtrance almost always does it to me. the sets at DUNE were on the most part, all hardhouse, of one degree or another. a little hardtrance was played- i loved it. a little happy breaks were spun, i loved it. but the hardhouse that was spun just had no musical content. it was (in my opinion) uninteresting, boring, dark and forboding- it didn't even make me want to dance. i think it was just that there were some lame records spun that night, a lot of them. that's all it was. this says nothing about the dj's. dutch spun some awesome stuff... i didn't care that there was no decorations: when i get into the vibe, my eyes are closed for hours on end anyway...and there were lots of my friends there... i had pneumonia, and i was in a pretty shitty mood from the start as soon as i tried to dance to the breaks and i started having coughing spasms and couldn't breathe... shannon. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Subject: future and reverse Date: Tue, 30 Mar 93 18:38:42 EST From: SHALAKO (technokachina) well, i'm tempted to go to future, dispite my beloved onionz and aphex twin will not be showing...for these reasons: supposedly, future will be the biggest event yet. i'm interested in experiencing the power of the sound and light system they speak of...i could get in free, and i have a guaranteed ride down there... but, reverse has dante, overload, 333&Mgee, and mayhem... i would like to go reverse...anybody got two extra seats? (i'd like to take my friend russel) thanx u all very munch !^, <---- technokachina in a trance, with a smirk of ecstacy. lovE...pEAcE...rAvE! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ .never.stop.dancing.loving.thinking.sharing.hugging.smiling.listening.raving. S H A L A K O < < t e c h n o k a c h i n a > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ .music for the mind, body, and soul, brothers and sisters. sscoen@athena.mit.edu shannon coen 617.225.8317 410 memorial drive cambridge, ma. 02139 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: Nicole E Stanbridge Subject: Re: HASH BASH/ANN ARBOR RAVE Date: Tue, 30 Mar 93 18:47:48 EST To the ne-rave listers. Just a tidbit of good info i sent out to the locals here, just in case any of you are in the area or can't resist that once a year hash gathering which is like no other!!!! write me for more info stanbrid@students.mus.edu granted our raves aren't as huge but are joints might be!!!!! :) > > OK TO ANYONE AND EVERYONE INTERESTED HERE IS THE FULL SCOOP. > I KNOW THE AREA THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT NOW (BEING FROM ANN ARBOR) AND IT IS > NOT FAR OFF THE HIGHWAY AT ALL. LOOK FOR THE HEIDELBERG FROM THE STREET AND > YOU KNOW YOU ARE THERE. A 'BUS' OF US IS DEFINELTY GOING SO JOIN IN IF YOU > WANT. > > ADDED ATTRACTION!!!! ITS HASH BASH IN ANN ARBOR THE SAME DAY SO COME EARLY I F > YOU WANT AND SPEND THE DYAY CHILLING IN THE DIAG DOING WHATEVER. BUT REMEMBER > THE FINE AND THOSE BUDDIES OF OURS WHO KEEP A CLOSE EYE OUT. NEED MORE INFO > JUST ASK. IF MORE PLANS DEVELOP I WILL LET YOU KNOW.. > > RAVE ON, RUSH ON!!!! > > >ANN ARBOR RAVE, SAT THE 3RD OF APRIL > > > > make the address on that A2 rave 209 N. Main! Come in to > > town from the 23/14 exit on the north side of town, and > > just follow Main for about a mile, till you hit the Miller > > (on the right) Catherine (on the left) stop light. Go one > > more block to the Ann St light and hang a right and park > > in the parking structure. You passed the building driving > > from miller to ann, but i bet the entrance is going to be > > around back. > > > > > > [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Subject: future Date: Tue, 30 Mar 93 18:54:17 EST From: SHALAKO (technokachina) holy shit! source will be playing! i dearly will miss aphex twin, but if this is the source i'm thinking of, as in "neuromancer", i'm stoked! source-neuromancer is an _un_believable track...pure trance ecstacy...this track _will_ take your brain to another dimension... mmmmm...future...tempting...9 hour drive though...ughhh... lovE...pEAcE...rAvE! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ .never.stop.dancing.loving.thinking.sharing.hugging.smiling.listening.raving. S H A L A K O < < t e c h n o k a c h i n a > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ .music for the mind, body, and soul, brothers and sisters. sscoen@athena.mit.edu shannon coen 617.225.8317 410 memorial drive cambridge, ma. 02139 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1993 20:25:03 -0500 (EST) From: Alan Michael Parry Subject: >>>>>>>>>HOM<<<<<<<<<< Again an early request for info since i know alot of people are looking for rides to Future....send 'em in :) --Fluid PS - anyone know where I can FTP a gif viewer from? thanks :) [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1993 22:00:09 EST From: GOREHAMJ%AM.mrgate@aspen.ulowell.edu Subject: Future From: NAME: GOREHAMJ To: ne-raves@gnu.ai.mit.edu@internet What state is Future rave in? Any info on when Yellow is comming? Any one going to bother going to Rave-Stock? I've heard alot of negatives on big Raves, and prefer the smaller happy crowds myself. But think I like the idea of hundreds and hundreds of Ravers for a weekend. Thanks to Eric for telling us about Dune. Had so much fun I can think of no witty descriptions. Love Jackie of JackieandJulie Be safe. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1993 22:16 EDT From: ST933352@PIP.CC.BRANDEIS.EDU Subject: SOURCE Some info on Source, he is preforming live at BTTF: His real name is Robert, and he is nicknamed Robban. He is Swedish, from Goetenborg. He now lives in Ghent in Belgium and records records for Reenat(R&S). He has been in Oslo in Norway a couple of times. Oslo is my hometown. I met him with Mental Overdrive (from Oslo), and he did a mix for my radio show. When he spins it's hardtrance and hartcore. Once when some friends of mine and I did a rave called The 5th floor Warehouse, Source was a guest-DJ. I heared some DATs with his stuff and he has a lot coming out on vinyl in the future. Really good!!! Last time a spoke with him he said he was going to start a label for scandinavian techno, a subdivision of R&S! I THINK Source will definitively be worth seeing (and hearing(!)). Chill, APPLEPIE [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Subject: Fractals - E-Mail - etc. From: IO20903@MAINE.maine.EDU (N. E. Tableman; I want information autonomy!) Date: I like to read my mail. O.k. The fractal program needed a final refinement. It was origonally run on a 486dx-50, so it had a problem running on a slower machine - a 386sx-20. This problem was fixed by changing the color cycling routines to int 8 - so they couls be easily timed etc. Any persons still interested please E-Mail me, I have lost all of your addresse s due to an idiot (me) eraseing my mail files. Other additions include palette managing FOR EACH picture and the ability to choose the pictures you want. Future revisions will include a screen grabber that work in WINDOWS (yuk!) as well as DOS, NOT OS/2 due to the system level 0 nature of this os. Agian, Nathan [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: kzimmerman@eagle.wesleyan.edu Date: Wed, 31 Mar 93 01:19:23 EST Subject: breakbeat bashing hey shannon you miss th point of damian's defense by including diva wailing in your identity of breakbeat songs... you are thinking of Overload style breaks. diesel's breaks are much harder and if you think four on the floor is so boringg then you have no rationale for liking house or trance or acid and finally if youre so peaceloveunity why did you feel you had to bash hartcore again just being a poseur, SparkLE. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1993 01:57:30 -0500 (EST) From: Alan Michael Parry Subject: Future..... Future will be held in Wilmers Park, BrandyWine MD. TEL (202) 638 1213 or (202) 331 4465 for directions.. --Fluid [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: kzimmerman@eagle.wesleyan.edu Date: Wed, 31 Mar 93 01:19:23 EST Subject: breakbeat bashing hey shannon you miss th point of damian's defense by including diva wailing in your identity of breakbeat songs... you are thinking of Overload style breaks. diesel's breaks are much harder and if you think four on the floor is so boringg then you have no rationale for liking house or trance or acid and finally if youre so peaceloveunity why did you feel you had to bash hartcore again just being a poseur, SparkLE. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 31 Mar 93 02:24:07 EST From: "Douglas B. Zimmerman" Subject: Rave-o-matic This is the Rave-o-matic for the week of Wed. March 30, 1993 hope i didn't forget anything *** also does anyone have complaints about the format of the R-O-M? *** *** if you do please send them to me (doug) at my e-mail address *** enjoy.. doug ))))) a b00mingg baSS for a l0vingg race ((((( dz5401a@american.edu ========================================================================== NE-RAVES CALENDAR __________________________________________________________________________ UPCOMING RAVES: __________________________________________________________________________ Thursday, April 1 BALTIMORE, MD (410) 880 - 1166 FEVER(Paradox-club) ....don't be fooled again april 1, 1993 performing Live teen heart throb singing achy breaky Heart DEBBIE GIBSON BILLY RAY CYRUS dj's keith miller lievan degeyndt dj who scott henry 10pm 'til 4 am * byob * $8 or $6 before 11 pm 1310 russell street, baltimore 410-880-1166/837-9110 presented by charles fields and scott henry _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 3 BURLINGTON, VT (617) 629 - 0777 REVERSE (802) 656 - 6782 re'verse\ri-'vers\ adj 1: opposite to a previous or normal condition 2: a change in one's state of mind from average to euphoirc... Dante evolution, n.y. DALE CHARLES evar, san diego k.c. and the sunshine gang OVERLOAD MAYHEM rise, boston KAMATE "the underground" JASON MOUSE boston underground A PLACE CALLED BLISS from toronto smartbar by PUNCH presale tickets... $11--day of...$13 AVAILABLE AT: the other side cafe'--boston...617-536-9477 boston beat--boston...617-561-4790 zootz--portland...207-773-8187 pure bob--burlington...802-658-2652 info. and busing hotline...617-629-0777 or 802-656-6782 $1 of each ticket will go towards the United Way SPECIAL THANKS TO::: chemistry, mike r., the commune, never neverland, rachel-bo-bachel, k.c. and the sunshine gang, rise, united techno, fred strong, debo, evolution, george from brooklyn, and etc. SOMEWHERE in the mountains presented by... TEMPEST PRODUCTIONS ______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 3 WASHINGTON D.C. (202) 331 - 4465 BACK TO THE FUTURE M2 Productions wants to take you... BACK TO THE F U T U R E Saturday - April 3, 1993 festivities start @ 9pm dj's Scott Henry - fever, balt Frankie Bones - storm, ny Michael Mecham - future, flinstone Lennie Dee - industrial strength Keoki - disco 200, ny Dave Trance - caffeine, li Strobe - euphoria, pa On-E - liquid sky, ny Sean McIlvain - flinstone, dc Jimmy Crash - storm, ny Ed Bailey - tracks w/afterhours Mr. Kleen - n.a.s.a., ny Lieven DeGeyndt - musicnow, ny Karl Matthews - matrix, dc Dave Wave - bar, ct Chris Herr - dc Debo - boston, ma Performing Live! N.R.G. with their first & only U.S. appearance "I need your loving" SOURCE Lights by New York's own SCOTTO Lighting design by Conceptions SMART BAR by NUTRIENT CAFE & Lewis Aronoft To Trip Your Senses MINDMACHINES The Largest Sound, Lights & Video ever 16 & Over assembled on the East Coast!!! "Stop your Heart Bass" by CONCEPTIONS Brought to you by... Mecham & McIlvain sponsored by Yogi Inc. Special Thanks to: Brian Kane, Z&R Fishman, Musicnow, A&A Graphics Colin Davies, Deanna, John Kadish, Autobahn Records, the staff and dj's from Future '92, Moby, Chris Cleen, Bobbie West & Scott Henry ay Yogi Inc. promotion by: Dennis the Mennis Eddie Van Raven, Rob Rave Mello Mello - blue crew Go Go & Daisy $16 tickets sold at Musicnow ONLY $18 at the door $1 off w/ a canned good items to benefit the AIDS food bank and the homeless portion of the proceeds will go to Wildlife Preservations Bus Trip and Rave info: Turbozen - pittsburgh 412.621.7759 Joint Ventures - new york - 212.631.1065 Applejack - philli - 215.602.2226 US Rave Team - philli - 412.373.6863 Concept Records - boston - 617.556.5325 Musicnow - DC - 202.638.3272 Mello Mello - new york - 212.631.4290 For All Info Call 202.331.4465 ______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, April 9 PITTSBURGH, PA MUTATION Recycled Productions presents Mutation Carnegie Mellon University Highlander/ Resnik Hall April 9 10pm-4am DJs: Techno Terrorists (CMU) dieselBoy (PITT/METROPOL/BOMB) Simon (CMU) Dr. Seuss (METROPOL) Kris Kersey (METROPOL) Performing Live: 187 $5 Superchill, Chill Out Room Visuals by Tranceportation 2 Rooms, 2 Stories, 2 Phat lasers by STORCH 3 Watt Lasers VOLATILE Ravegear Master Blaster(tm) Sound System 12x12 PROJECTIONS Candee no alcohol no attitude stoopid drinks _______________________________________________________________________________ Fri-Sat, April 9-10 WASHINGTON D.C. (202) 466-1692 MEGA RAVE 93 (202) 296-9760 Landing Status: destination: Washington D.C. FRi. 4-9-93 time:10pm-9am SAT. 4-10-93 time:10pm-Dawn PURVEYOURS OF HARDCORE... Scott Henry (Citrusclub/Fever) Lieven DeGeyndt (MusicNow) Dj U (Thermonuclear DC) Dj Who (Atomic Vibe Balt) Dj Wash (Atomic Vibe Balt.) Tarzan (Thermonuclear DC) Lert (Balt) Cyberpsychadelic Sketti (3rd period) Stimulation: INDUSTRIAL STRENGTH Performance Art, ROCKET FUELS: Rave Poets, Jolt-Smartbar intelligent Visual Milleau, Elektrik KoolAid Buzz Gum Bass in Yo Face!! Landing fee: $12 w/flyer $15 w/out -thermonuclear productions- smashing neutrons at a warehouse near you! (thermonuclear hotline) 202.466.1692 202.296.9760 Phuthur Rave information MusicNow 202-638-3272 modern music 410-523-1882 ______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 10 NEW YORK CITY (212) 465 - 2565 STOP STOP THE BULLSHIT--LET'S GET HARDCORE Together We Rave (T.W.R.) presents STOP The Rebirth of Hardcore Saturday April 10th, 1993 midnight to sunrise... Mechanics of the Night: ADAM X (Storm) FRANKIE BONES (Factory Groove) JIMMY CRASH (Storm-Direct Drive Records) DJ HEART (Under One Sky) MICRO (Caffiene, LI) K-5 (T.W.R.) DJ CARLOS (Brooklyn) tickets will be limited. Map point will be given with ticket for more info call the T.W.R. hotline at 212-465-2565 tickets on sale@Groove Records (Brooklyn) 718-714-5232 Vinyl Mania (NYC) 212-463-7129 promotions: Dennis the Menace.Heather Heather.Curious George.Gregory and Cris(LI).T.W.R.& Eddie van Raven concessions:Joint Ventures visuals and computer animation: Eno One cold water bar all night... _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 10 NEW HAVEN, CT TUNE INN RAVE Djs are (incomplete list) dieselBoy |Pittsburgh Overload | Deep in Maine Nexus 6 |Tune Inn, Brooklyn Jimmy Crash | Brooklyn Mr. Trash |Connecticut Joey Ventura|(95.7 Kiss-FM) Dave Wave |Bar, New Haven _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 17 NEW YORK CITY NE-RAVES PICNIC _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 17 PORTLAND, ME (207) 773 - 6979 GRIN K.C. and the Sunrise Gang, together with Pandemonium, brought you Crusade, Sky High and Deep -- Now let us make you GRIN Saturday, April 17, Portland, ME Fully legal warehouse space overlooking the Atlantic With special guests: Frankie Bones (Storm/Brooklyn) Tin Tin (Energy/U.K.) Overload (Deep/Sky High/Portland) Dante (Evolution/N.Y.) Dale Charles, Evar (San Diego) M-gee (Rise/Primary/London) PLUS OTHERS TO COME For more info call (207)773-6979 Full-color flyers available in March woth N.Y., Boston, R.I. & N.H. bus info. Available through MelloMello, VinylMania, Planet X, Groove Records, Boston Beat, The Other Side Cafe, Lunacy, Rock Bottom Records & Bad Habits. OR, mail self-addressed envelope to GRIN, c/o ZOOTZ, 31 Forest Ave, Portland, ME 04101 _____________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 17 CHARLOTTESVILLE, VA (804) 961 - 0183 KRUSTY'S II: ELECTRIC BOOGALOO At the Splathouse again! _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 17 BALTIMORE, MD (410) 235 - 1131 EXPAND Stretch the boundaries of reality in an environment of freedom Free your mind and find inner peace. Sonic Soul invites you to... E X P A N D Saturday, April 17, 1993 10 pm until sunshine sun mindphuq wash ultraworld modern music atomic vibe jason jinx who bobble nasa atomic vibe sonic soul scott hardkiss scott henry san francisco fever / citrus a m b i e n t b l i s s pegas entity trip lg atomic vibe ultraworld modern music sonic soul $10 Tickets at Moderm Music 410.523.1882 Baltimore Tickets at MusicNow 202.638.3272 Washington D.C. Sonic Soul 410.235.1131 PURE BALTIMORE UNDERGROUND _____________________________________________________________________________ Friday, April 23 PROVIDENCE, RI (401) 751 - 5695 EARTH DAY RAVE Earth Day Rave -- April 1993 Home Planet SAT Night Rehersals and Production Join us Media Circus ! (401) 751-5695 _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 24 BOSTON, MA (617) 629 - 0777 FIELDS OF JOY Presented by Never Neverland Productions Simultaniously hooking up both coasts! We support B.U.S. Info coming soon: Boston (617) 629-0777 S.F.: (415) 979-LUV-O DJs: Scott Hardkiss Debo Onionz Tintin (from England) Jason Jinx (from NY) _____________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 24 BALTIMORE, MD (410) 563 - 7880 ULTRAWORLD 6 - TEMPLE OF MOTION It's now time to bring everyone together to unify our souls through rhythm and motion. one intense room of pulsating sound, amazing visual stimulation, and a groove so funky you'll be hooked like a junky!!! RYDE DJ TRANCE DJ SUN New York Los Angeles Ultraworld ENTITY DANTE MAURE WASH Ultraworld Evolution Atomic Vibe FRANKIE HARTUNG Washington D.C. INFO LINE: 410.563.7880 Don't Just Call and Hang Up! Be Somebody!Say Something! _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 24 PITTSBURGH, PA (412) 621 - 7759 HIGH VOLTAGE !!! TurboZen Presents High Voltage!!! Saturday, April 24 9pm-6am Neural Transmission Event * Megawatts of Ace, Bass, Vibe disruption devices, * Auto-syncronizing visual effects for the mind, * Intellectual, liquids to keep you going all night, * Super Crazy Circus Apocalypse Side-show, and * A driving force line-up of totally schizmatic DJ's: Soji-Fu Jeff E ___________________________ Dr. Suess Side 2 | Special Live Performance | Finger +FX Simon | Super Cool 187 | Deadly Buda JediMindtrip || Terry Kicks Vic Money |__________________________| Bringing you the best of Hardcore, Breakbeat, Trance and Tribal music from all over this funky planet!!!! Phree with ticket from Tranceformer (all Tranceformer tickets must be turned in by Apr. 7) Ticket Information available at: 412.621.7759 _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, May 1 LONG ISLAND, NY ESSENCE.. "the second coming" * mayday '93 ______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, May 8 BALTIMORE, MD (410) 523 - 1882 TRIPOTRONIC 7- MAY DAY FEST ______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, May 15 WASHINGTON D.C. (202) 298 - 9000 MARS Tonka presents: A Voyage to MARS DJ's: Frankie Bones, Keoki, Lieven DeGeyndt, Dante, Debo, Josh Wink, Scott Henry + more to be announced. ______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, May 15 WASHINGTON D.C. ? (301) 279 - 7927 THE MONGREL ATTACKS D. O. G. Productions The Mongrel Attacks from phone info line: Ripping the Dance Floors -- Lenny D Adam X James Christian Jimmy Crash Jason Jinx DJ 749 007 T.Shread M & M Mindphuq Live performance from DC's own: Odyssey. live appearance MC NoShame 1st exclusive Hip Hop chill out room on the East Coast You think this party's not going on? Your crazy!! ______________________________________________________________________________ Monday, May 17 ?? NEW YORK CITY DANTE'S PICNIC in NYC's Central Park _______________________________________________________________________________ Fri-Sun May 21-23 VERMONT ELEVATION elevation- a weekend long rave held in a ski resort may 21-23 in vermont (smugglers notch) 2 arena's- main area- on the mountainside confirmed dj's: onionz dante jason jinx wink a place called bliss james christian alx of london disco dan mayhem osheen jason (mouse) arena two- in a lodge- anyone who wants to spin can schedule for a time and go to it. tickets are $40 for the entire weekend $99 for the weekend including lodging and access to the pool, hot tubs, tennis, racketball, ect. $cheaper id you come after 8pm on Saturday (comment from camper) more dj's unconfirmed, but lets just say that san francisco djs are being considered. (good ones) _____________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, May 29 WASHINGTON D.C. (703) 971 - 4555 VIVID Catastrophic 93 Presents: VIVID The Rave continues in 93 _____________________________________________________________________________ Fri-Mon June 18-21 NEW YORK STATE 1 - 800 - 4RAVE - LINE RAVESTOCK _____________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, June 26 EAST COAST FROSTED RAVE (from Tarek Elnaccash, TWE5495@ACFcluster.NYU.EDU) prepare yourselves for.... F R O S T E D R A V E June 26 3000 ravers expected Suprise DJ list/live acts to be announced Location to be announced tickets will be $15 strictly advance sale only, Discount prices for members of NE-Raves, Mindcandy, and Fuzzy Logic are available Made for people who party by people who party. This is our rave! Members od NE-R/MC/FL can purchase tickets for $5 donations. These discount tickets will hwlp us cover start up costs and must be received by the end of May. The discount tickets are available only to the first 300 people who send for them. Ticket orders can be sent to me (Tarek Elnaccash 55e 10th st rm 1507 Ny,NY 10003) Flyers for this event/regular tickets will be available soon at record stores around (complete info will be listed soon) If you dont want to wait send your flyer request to: M I N D C A N D Y c/o Vitamin Love 111 Hackensack Plank Rd Wee. N.J. 07087 Anybody requesting the flyers will receive a free copy of the MINDCANDY rave newsletter (aprox. 20 pages) Peace to all Ravers FROSTED RAVE will be the first collaboration of the three Techno-Tribes. The unification of the REAL RAVERS. ____________________________________________________________________________ [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1993 03:23:20 -0500 (EST) From: Jacobredfield Subject: PHEWTURE :( It was not wise posting that everyone is going to sneak in to future. Meacham might have read those post. You can forget it now. - jAke if anyone has any questions or comments - please send it to me personally thank you. _____________________________________________________________________________ <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _____________________________________________________________________________ [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: "Golden Boy" Date: Wed, 31 Mar 93 08:56:49 CST Subject: Re: LearningThis On Tue, 30 Mar 1993 17:29:55 EST, wrote: >From: NAME: GOREHAMJ >To: ne-raves@gnu.ai.mit.edu@internet > >Am I here? >Jax NO...it'z a virtual illusion. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ "Dont Fuck With Me And I Won't Fuck With You" ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: "Golden Boy" Date: Wed, 31 Mar 93 09:11:52 CST Subject: Re: SOURCE On Tue, 30 Mar 1993 22:16 EDT, ApplePie wrote: >I THINK Source will definitively be worth seeing (and hearing(!)). > >Chill, APPLEPIE Ya Know...having a person like you Apple, on the list, is a major fucking PLUS !!!...you're like a rave.net.consultant ! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ "Dont Fuck With Me And I Won't Fuck With You" ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: "Golden Boy" Date: Wed, 31 Mar 93 09:21:22 CST Subject: Forwarded message... Hey kidz...just in case you're interested... *************************************************************************** ----- Forwarded message begins here ----- From: Don Labutay Tue, 30 Mar 93 16:12:10 PST To: bpm+@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: I need tax money, so take my NUMARK please! For sale: Numark 5020 Dual CD PLayer with dual sliding pitch control dual instant start/stop button audio cue(lets you hear the cd that's cued up, it continously repeat the part of the song that you cued up, around 1/10th of a sec) built-in mixer (for the cd player only) audio repeater (hit the stop button and the laserbeam will just stay in one place and will keep repeating that part of the song) fast pitch response time rack-mountable 4 year warranty (transferable) mint condition with box/manual never used for mobile, so it was never dropped or mishandled. $850 or best offer. I would prefer if you live near the San Francisco Bay Area, so you can test drive it. "Da watcher" - don@vestek.com ------ Forwarded message ends here ------ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ It'z time to come out of the closet...Geekz of the world UNITE !! ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 31 Mar 1993 10:53:20 -0400 (EDT) From: DJESRANI@CENTER.COLGATE.EDU Subject: Scott and Bill and Nebula III >Scott Richmond was the brains behind the 3 "Sattlelite Raves" held last fall. >Sputnik I in Newburgh, Sputnik II (one of the best raves of the fall) in >Wayne, NJ, and Explorer I in Westchester Co. somewhere. It's a shame to hear >that Nebula 3 didn't go as well, because he certainly has shown a lot of us >that he is a very talented event organizer (regardless of what you think of >his personality :-) ). Sputnik II was almost a transcendent event. So >Darshan or anyone who knows Scott personally and has talked to him recently, >what's the deal? >Laura Scott and Bill orgranize events on the fly. They are extremely disorganized, but always seem to pull it off with the help of many local kids. I know that they owe a lot of people money, and I hope that they are able to pay them back. I don't really like the way they do events. It's entirely too disorganized and frantic, and stressful. (I helped them a little bit on Sputnik I and Nebula I). However, Scott's got connections, so they never have a problem with getting decent DJs. They've pretty much monopolized the Poughkeepsie scene, and as a result, a lot of kids are getting into dance music - which is cool. I wish they'd do lot of kids are getting into dance music - which is cool. After all, I got into dance music listening to Scott's radio show back in '88. I have a feeling that they're losing their credibility among the people they work with, so we'll have to see what happens with the next few events. Chances are, they'll find new people to help them out.. Darshan [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1993 11:10:54 -0500 (EST) From: Kenny Eng Subject: global groove did anyone go to the global groove rave/party on march 20? i hear this thing is gonna be a regular occurrence. the next one is april 3. kenny [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 31 Mar 1993 11:42:26 -0400 (EDT) From: an excursion through technospace Subject: hardcore/breabeat/etcc one of these days people will remember the word 'opinion' and then remember what it means... and then shut up. >>taylor.808 [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: humphrey@unity.ncsu.edu Subject: Anti BTTF rave Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1993 12:07:23 -0500 (EST) Now I really don't know what to do...when I first mentioned an anti BTTF rave I was fairly sure that it would be the right thing to do...now? Let me review the 'facts' (I'm not sure what is true) 1. Meacham JUST admitted that Aphex Twin would not be there...according to Richard James, he pulled out a while ago. 2. He only admitted it on the phone to one person AFTER he said he had been told by the man himself that he would not be there. As far as I know, the Aphex Twin is still 'advertised' to show. 3. The first Future had some things that were questionable (no facts). 4. Meacham has been fairly responsive to questions, and seems willing to talk...that show something positive... I would call him but can't afford to. If he reads this and wants to call me....919.856.0202 :) I'm sure there is more but can't think of anything... What I am going to do is go, not buy my ticket ahead of time, see what happens, and maybe I will go in and maybe not... Anyone else who wants to hang out w/ me outside...we may even have a better time! (I wonder if the event will be inside and if so how cold it will be outside) Let me know what you guys think? :) |\ . ______ * __John Rainbow Humphrey__ | \ _ | | + john_humphrey@ncsu.edu + <--personal mail here | \ _ | | - + humphrey@unity.ncsu.edu + <--or here | \ | | - + jrhumphr@eos.ncsu.edu + |e___\ |______|/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 31 Mar 93 11:39:33 EST From: robcamp@tmn.com (Robert Campanell) Subject: I've got no FUTURE If you're thinking about sneaking into Future, good Luck. The area is a fenced in park. I really think all this Micheal Meacham bashing is stupid. He posted here on the nets that Future was a big commericial rave. No false pretense here. He's trying to organize a huge event, and it's difficult to have all the details fit perfectly. His replys to our questions were straight forward, and sincere. HOW MANY OTHER PROMOTERS HAVE REPLIED TO OUR QUESTIONS on the net. If you don't like big commercial raves then DON'T GO. It's that simple - Rob [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 31 Mar 93 12:49:00 EST From: "John Speakman" Subject: 808 Hiya! More stuff about the 808 State thang on Saturday April 17th. NASA and Anarchic Adjustment are now involved and it's an "all night dance frenzy" (ooh!). In addition to the live shows there are DJs Moby, DB, Keoki, Wink, On-E, Micro, Tony Fletcher (uh-oh), Mr. Kleen, Destructo, Sean CIC. More info on 212.330-8233 (NASA). Pip pip! John. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: pashdown@slack.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown) Subject: hardcore/breabeat/etcc Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1993 11:03:28 -0700 (MST) > one of these days people will remember the word 'opinion' and then remember > what it means... and then shut up. Sort of like the abortion question Taylor? You have a very simplistic view on debate. The problem isn't a person's 'opinion' is necessarily wrong, it is just that I may or may not feel it is completely ludicrous and thus have the urge to attempt to change it. [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: "Golden Boy" Date: Wed, 31 Mar 93 12:59:45 CST Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE hey jon...cut me loose..thanx. peace to the cybertribe ! |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| <> "Life acquires meaning only" "When we face the conflict" "Between our desires and reality" [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 31 Mar 1993 13:49:06 -0400 (EDT) From: an excursion through technospace Subject: Re: hardcore/breabeat/etcc pete said: Sort of like the abortion question Taylor? You have a very simplistic view on debate. The problem isn't a person's 'opinion' is necessarily wrong, it is just that I may or may not feel it is completely ludicrous and thus have the urge to attempt to change it. **** well.. i guess i was trying to be a little simple in my "solution".. i dunno. the debate has been going on for what seems like weeks.. of people saying the same thing... but, more importantly.. BASHING other's and other music... it's definitely nice to see people's opinions... i like to learn what my friends and future friends think...but, my point was that i think people are FORGETTING that these are only opinions...and that no one really means any harm when they say "breakbeat sucks"...that is THEIR opinion...and it's not going to really get people anywhere to fight about it.. am i making any sense? who knows.. i guess my next simple, one-line "solution" is: don't take it all so personally. peace-out >>taylor.808 t r a n c e a d d i k t [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: "Golden Boy" Date: Wed, 31 Mar 93 14:36:42 CST Subject: Re: UNSUBSCRIBE hmmm...seemz az tho' people wish to know whassup with me leaving. so instead of writing everyone individually...here'z what I wrote to my buddy laura...[slightly altered in placez when necessary] [begin message] err...okay...lemme see...nah...I'm dropping all of the rave. listz...I like techno...all sortz from trance to hartcore...and I like to rave...yet...as a martial artist...a true artist...in my pursuit of enlightenment and perfection...etc [the etc being a great deal that would take a while to write]...ravez and such are a...hmmm...how can I say...an activity that is fun once in a while...yet unnecessary in my life...the scene contributez nothing to my pursuit of understanding...and although it can bring a type of happiness...it takez energy from this pursuit... I've met a lot of people...really cool people...like you...and you better stay in touch !...[or thiswillhurtyou |)]...and for this I am thankful... yet the path through life, for which each person must travel, he/she travels alone. "Try everything in moderation. See whether a certain direction is postitive and indicates further exploration, or whether it leads to a dead end. If you are satisfied, then move on. If there is further exploration needed, then do so." well...I've seen many scene'z come and go...and all most of them seem to be is a temporary handle for many people to grasp for a direction in thier lives. I have examined what is going on here...groved on the scene... met some BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE and some ASSHOLEZ...now it is time for me to continue to explore...I will be gone...yet still around. [end message] all you kidz pleaze keep my e-mail address in a junk drawer somewhere or something and waste a bandwidth or two writing me every once in a while. PEACE ! |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| <> "Life acquires meaning only" "When we face the conflict" "Between our desires and reality" [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1993 15:29:20 -0500 (EST) From: Alan Michael Parry Subject: some feelings.. Okay...about Back to The Future, I really dont think an ANTI-Future rave is necessary. If you want to do your own thing that is fine but coming out against Michael Meachem (MM) and his event all seems very petty. MM is not deliberatley deceiving people it seems - he's just not going out of his way to inform. He told me that Aphex will not be playing BEFORE i mentioned that Richard had already told me he wasnt. Richard also said that he pulled out too late to be taken off the flyers. Furthermore, MM is no longer advertising Onionz in the city-paper etc. So why is everyone so anti-MM? Sure he's gonna make loads of money but if you dont like it then dont go. It WILL be commercial...it doesnt get much more commercial than this. He still states that NRG will be there along with Aphex replacement THE SOURCE. Im not sticking up for him totally, I dont really know him from anyone else, but I do think he deserves a chance. He is friendly and is doing his best to inform us..shit, he even wrote to the list - how many guys would do that? give the man a chance. If it turns out bad afterwards, then we can be justified in making a noise. Its not really in the spirit of things to tie this man up and crucify him for things he hasn't yet done.. --FLuid [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 31 Mar 1993 15:43:01 -0400 (EDT) From: an excursion through technospace Subject: FOR ERIN PIERCE! (everyone else can ignore it) erin..i lost your email address and your badge order email. i DID get your $$ however.. sorry i have to reach you this way.. but.. i need you to tell me what you want on your badge again. i'm terribly sorry for the inconvenience..but, yours is not the only one that got fucked up... :) i WILL be at reverse.. perhaps i'll see you there! get back to me as soon as you can.. thanks! peace-out >>taylor [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: s i n e w a v e Subject: subscribing to the analogue heaven synth list (a how to) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 93 16:04:54 EST The Analogue Heaven Synth List was created to stimulate discussion between those interested in analogue (or analog, if you prefer) synthesizing keyboards, homebuilt synthesizers, modular systems, as well as convertors within MIDI, SYNC (DIN), and Control Voltage (CV)/Gate platforms. Also in frequent discussion are methods of conversion, swapping of diagrams and schematics, and various methods of creating convertors, filters, modifications, and the like. And, you are welcome to ask questions, post items for sale, etc.. they don't always HAVE to be analogue, since some of us do need MIDI hardware to sequence, etc... to Subscribe, Unsubscribe, or if you have more questions, send e-mail to: ------------------------------------------------------------------------- analogue-request@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu to make a post to the entire list: ---------------------------------- analogue@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu soon: digest form, as well as an FTP site at cs.uwp.edu sines -- /\ /\ _________________s i n e w a v e___________________ /\ /\ / \ / \ / todd sines: tsines@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu \ / \ / \ / \/ \/ 384 e17th ave, columbus, oh 43201 614 299 9529 \/ \/ \ analogue / analogue-request@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: 31 Mar 1993 15:45:17 -0400 (EDT) From: an excursion through technospace Subject: badge update well, the badge orders have been rolling in.. and so has the money... so, as soon as i get a few more orders and $ in the mail.. i will be able to do the first run of badges...probably by early next week! thanks for your patience! have a trancey weekend. :) peace-out >>taylor.808 s q u a r e w a v e f e t i s h t e a m [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1993 19:39:44 EST From: GOREHAMJ%AM.mrgate@aspen.ulowell.edu Subject: Dune! From: NAME: GOREHAMJ To: ne-raves@gnu.ai.mit.edu@internet Dune was a great surprise. I read someone had a bad time but I thought it was beautiful. The crowd was so positive and the music 'hard-house' was perfect for my mood. Thanx Eric for telling me + Julie about it, many appreciative hugs. Any news on Yellow anyone???? And is anyone planning on going to Rave-Stock? I like smaller Raves myself, but the idea of so many Ravers for 3 days is well, I can think of no adjective for the idea. Be safe. Jackie of JackieandJulie [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Subject: Will the youngest ne-raver please stand up? From: inhuman@mindvox.phantom.com (Inhuman) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 93 20:05:46 EST Hey, do any of you guys or gals have a birthday after 07/22/75? I want to see if I am the youngest ne-raver, so I can put it on my badge and rave with distinction! :-) Michael | "I've begun to wonder if we wouldn't (inhuman@mindvox.phantom.com) | also regard spelunkers as desperate | criminals if AT&T owned all the ...trance form...trance send... | caves." --John Perry Barlow [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: TMA@KUWAIT.ELP.CWRU.EDU Date: Wed, 31 Mar 93 16:53:46 EST Subject: REVERSE... Well, I forgot who does the HOM. So her goes. I will be treking to REVERSE in Burlington, VT. this Saturday 4/3/93 If any of you is going to be there, let me know via e-mail, so I can hook up with everybody! since It is my first time being in Vermont. I don't know what I will be wearing yet, but probably something in black and my famous grey LA KINGS baseball hat. and of course my ne-raves badge. Hope to see ya all over there! PeaceOut, TAREQ PS: Donato, let me know if you are still going! tma@po.cwru.edu [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Subject: HOM Date: Wed, 31 Mar 93 21:43:02 EST From: SHALAKO (technokachina) i'll be at Future. i'll be driving down on friday with the BigFunHouse crew. see you at the BFH booth during the hardcore, and infront of the speakers the rest of the time! lovE...pEAcE...rAvE! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ .never.stop.dancing.loving.thinking.sharing.hugging.smiling.listening.raving. S H A L A K O < < t e c h n o k a c h i n a > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ .music for the mind, body, and soul, brothers and sisters. sscoen@athena.mit.edu shannon coen 617.225.8317 410 memorial drive cambridge, ma. 02139 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: dionf@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Francois Dion) Subject: Re: REVERSE... Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1993 21:13:56 -0500 (EST) Beyond the ultraworld of TMA@KUWAIT.ELP.CWRU.EDU: > > Well, I forgot who does the HOM. So her goes. > > I will be treking to REVERSE in Burlington, VT. this Saturday 4/3/93 > If any of you is going to be there, let me know via e-mail, so I can hook > up with everybody! since It is my first time being in Vermont. Where exactly is this? Phone? Address? What type of event is this? DJs? etc... Anybody from that area can say that there is a rave scene in Burlington and be serious? It's not that far, but still... > I don't know what I will be wearing yet, but probably something in black > and my famous grey LA KINGS baseball hat. and of course my ne-raves > badge. If i get there i'll have my red CD with white stripes and a black silk jacket. Ciao, -- Francois Dion ' _ _ _ CISM (_) (_) _) FM Montreal , Canada Email: CISM@ERE.UMontreal.CA (_) / . _) 10000 Watts Telephone no: (514) 343-7511 _______________________________________________________________________________ Audio-C-DJ-Fractals-Future-Label-Multimedia-Music-Radio-Rave-Video-VR-Volvo-... [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 31 Mar 93 22:13:35 EST From: Monica Tauriello Subject: introducing myself hello! I'm new on the list and it was suggested i introduce myself... i'm 23, a student at Rutgers (New Brunswick, NJ), currently finishing degrees in women's studies and history (jeez this sounds like a resume...) anyway, i first started raving in sussex, england, when Will-E found me dazed at the train station and dragged me up a hill to a mellow microrave under the moon and stars where i (re)connected with the rhythms of life-spirit-energy and thought, i think i really like this... anyway, anyone interested in chatting about life, raving, the scene(s), anarchism, feminism, sex-radical/queer politics/culture(s), technopaganism, whatever ... please drop me a line. Unfortunately, i probably won't be out raving again until May, as i'm quite inundated with finals, papers, stress at the moment (but come may 11, i am free!!(relatively)....) peace, monicat (monicat@gandalf.rutgers.edu) [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1993 22:53:12 EST From: GOREHAMJ%AM.mrgate@aspen.ulowell.edu Subject: Reverse From: NAME: GOREHAMJ To: ne-raves@gnu.ai.mit.edu@internet Does anyone know how long it takes to get to Burlington? I have to work Sunday and am debating if I should go. I couln't make it to work after Dune, and should be a good girl, but my priorities are messed up. Peace and safety from Jackie of JackieandJulie [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] From: humphrey@unity.ncsu.edu Subject: Meacham Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1993 22:58:09 -0500 (EST) I just spoke to Michael Meacham on the phone. He says that Aphex Twin will definately NOT be there. I know he admitted this before but I didn't even have to tell him that I already knew he wouldn't be there. He did say that 'The Source' would be there as a replacement group. He also said that NRG would definately be there. As far as DJ playing time, from what I understood, there will be two DJ's in playing at a time (in different areas). He also said the after hours would be at TRAX. I guess that means I will be going... WHo can you trust? |\ . ______ * __John Rainbow Humphrey__ | \ _ | | + john_humphrey@ncsu.edu + <--personal mail here | \ _ | | - + humphrey@unity.ncsu.edu + <--or here | \ | | - + jrhumphr@eos.ncsu.edu + |e___\ |______|/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1993 23:23:09 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael L. Smearer" <51039@ravel.udel.edu> Subject: HOOKUP-O-MATIC ========================================================================== HOOKUP-O-MATIC FOR 4/3 ========================================================================== Okay kidz..here is a super-early version of the HOM since it seems like theres gonna be A LOT of travelling and A LOT of people who need rides this weekend. Sorry if you didnt get time to submit something. Have fun wherever you go. There might also some pre-Future gatherings in the works so stay tuned..*hug* ;) - Fluid ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Saturday, April 3rd. Brandywine, MD. BACK TO THE FUTURE INFO# (202) 331 4465 DJs| Scott Henry (fever), Michael Meachem (future), Lenny Dee (IS), On-E (NY), Dave Trance (caffeine), Jimmy Crash (storm), Mr Kleen (NASA), Keoki (NY), Karl Matthews (DC), Chris Herr (DC), Frankie Bones (storm), Strobe (PA), Sean McIlvain (DC), Ed Bailey (tracks), Lieven Degeyndt (MusicNow), Dave Wave (bar), Debo (Boston). + Live performances by NRG and THE SOURCE Mr Sparkle (KZIMMERMAN@eagle.wesleyan.edu) *-dressed like a poseur Fluid (BRIT@ravel.udel.edu) *-ne-raves badge Cindy Kawakami (KAWAKAMI@usfca.edu) Fran (FRAN@ravel.udel.edu) Sunshine (MCCUNE@wpi.wpi.edu) Shalako (SSCOEN@Athena.mit.edu) *-infront of speakers :) The Highwayman (HWYMAN@wam.umd.edu) *-UMRaveCoalition badge Inhuman (INHUMAN@mindvox.phantom.com) *(has space for 1-2 people from DC) Ben Jaffe (??) (riding with inhuman) Mikey (MIKEY@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu) *-green backpack glo-stick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Saturday, April 3rd Burlington, VT R E V E R S E INFO# (617) 629 0777 DJs| Dante (NY), Dale Charles (SD), Mayhem (rise), Kamata (underground), Jason Mouse (underground), A place called Bliss (Toronto), Overload. Jetta (VWANG@lucy.wellesley.edu) Neith Preston (NCP@csmvax.simmons.edu) *-wacky purple hair! *(anywhere Neith can crash B4 heading home?) ne-raves badge Taylor (TOD3253@acfcluster.nyu.edu) Tareq (TMA@po.cwru.edu) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ RIDES DESPERATELY NEEDED!!!!!!!!! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Taylor (TOD3253@ACFcluster.nyu.edu) FROM: NYC TO: FUTURE Susie K (SK2479A@American.edu) + Doug Zimmerman (DZ5401A@American.edu) FROM: D.C. TO: FUTURE (call (202) 885 709 if possible, also have room for people to stay) Laibach (LAIBACH@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu) FROM: BALTIMORE TO: ANYWHERE! (call (410) 366 5277) Darren Ewaniuk (DBOY@acs.bu.edu) + friend FROM: BOSTON TO: FUTURE Mel-zo-rama (MELZIE@wam.umd.edu) FROM: COLLEGE PARK TO: FUTURE Maximilian (ML0569A@american.edu) FROM: D.C. TO: FUTURE -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Thats it people......have fun and dont forget to comb your hair. --Fluid [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] ** End of Ne-Raves Digest **