From ne-raves-return-3771-ne-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 02 20:25:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ne-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13562 invoked by uid 1046); 2 May 2008 20:25:15 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13471 invoked from network); 2 May 2008 20:25:10 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) To: Northeast Raves Message-Id: <7FF2ED54-9E18-4C88-A9A5-0F3A55FF7A62@917k.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-5--475725037 From: Sean M Rhodes Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 15:21:48 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mercury.alienwebshop.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [26 6] / [26 6] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - 917k.com X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [ne-raves] Rat Radio NYC --Apple-Mail-5--475725037 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed this just came across my desk... the show is on right now and its adding some bounce to my friday afternoon from what I understand this is the first show. http://www.ratradionyc.com/ http://www.ratradionyc.com:11000/listen.pls --Apple-Mail-5--475725037-- From ne-raves-return-3772-ne-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 02 21:35:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ne-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 81351 invoked by uid 1046); 2 May 2008 21:35:53 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 81286 invoked from network); 2 May 2008 21:35:50 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=aYnA4G9Mz8dp/xrJ+Rn/nLTnVMbMaH33h50COzPthD7Lg+6dkbHfhFMp3XkPfwrupC+RFCln+hRuC5Afnn2E8CBySNAfXJgt1a+p2QzE/cp9dfn3DHGLd2Jo/B0oLsi0Li9dO64QBH87P8ncQxWJsJb3aYYe8KG6PFQVmBkToHM=; X-YMail-OSG: FlIozfoVM1mk9TPOj_rLkzP1bksjNBJZIiR6tSmVkeEtjXOF3VKjU7XQq9FtY4mM6uAslY9nbYnGcc0DWXIIw1vb3w9hfsUygHqgyzxKBb.oKMSq3zEiqEdmHw-- Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 14:35:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Spurty To: Northeast Raves In-Reply-To: <7FF2ED54-9E18-4C88-A9A5-0F3A55FF7A62@917k.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <334790.1123.qm@web55312.mail.re4.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Rat Radio NYC Nothing better than bouncy for a gray day in NYC. Thanks! BTW, checked your site and your portfolio is _niiice_. ;) > this just came across my desk... the show is on right now and its > adding some bounce to my friday afternoon > from what I understand this is the first show. > > http://www.ratradionyc.com/ ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ >>--- NORTHEAST RAVES://hyperreal.org/raves/ne/ -----> Web-based sub/unsub: hyperreal.org/raves/ne/subscription/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org From ne-raves-return-3773-ne-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 02 21:35:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ne-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 82028 invoked by uid 1046); 2 May 2008 21:35:59 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 81996 invoked from network); 2 May 2008 21:35:58 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=NgYeJ7/DS/m45DEqs/MNC7HMT7JD/Y9Ju3yFTRIiQ3CGzC7RyMLNsA/7TAAfh3AwcNJMmNIaTRkRHpnxufUUCgUoYDqayL8Mo3cpw+EJU4XVgqmhkwYInQn1YGAuEenILP6QJzNti6MRqEsBZhxTGJw2d9bisrFdzzGQaFwskWY=; X-YMail-OSG: M2SYHpYVM1lbbnNnP2WcKXrW5fYsl_pIZYKaqqx5TAXeAssE3jR1mPWqBYR2DYxv_8Mvt5grREncl8c8lhMQYCXdOOdtVR1I5lzZ0o0JeTv8lLfQyl_roplxjA-- Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 14:35:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Spurty To: Northeast Raves In-Reply-To: <7FF2ED54-9E18-4C88-A9A5-0F3A55FF7A62@917k.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <67946.972.qm@web55310.mail.re4.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Rat Radio NYC Nothing better than bouncy for a gray day in NYC. Thanks! BTW, checked your site and your portfolio is _niiice_. ;) > this just came across my desk... the show is on right now and its > adding some bounce to my friday afternoon > from what I understand this is the first show. > > http://www.ratradionyc.com/ ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ >>--- NORTHEAST RAVES://hyperreal.org/raves/ne/ -----> Web-based sub/unsub: hyperreal.org/raves/ne/subscription/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org From ne-raves-return-3774-ne-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 03 07:12:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ne-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 86110 invoked by uid 1046); 3 May 2008 07:12:43 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 86032 invoked from network); 3 May 2008 07:12:41 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=GSrTvRfdRxoJrflbxbvhr1NSlo84xCfSC29iRW8UQ9e0Yeqm3/tnaHfNEajk/fpesWnv/N8zxNTHyzNBh5E9DuUOgiL3HxDk66g6gNQ1AgGZqWHBbCkbxDUNnMXXYB8vpKsMQb+rj4EoF6tQA/q/jB41gKQ1CzZtxkehs9Rlsjk=; X-YMail-OSG: si01JNMVM1mTw6XYvqQaEb6GVr6gqwsjormKVm473IkY03jk0VPE6CVWlqkaHjeJbU4eJ.uiS_BrTV9Q9YKhod57dFGjgGQPq4KGVT5W.DQrbKwUbL2V5Fg4cg-- Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 00:12:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Spurty To: Northeast Raves MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <444309.20824.qm@web55313.mail.re4.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [ne-raves] Fwd: NYC { You are invited to : We Didn't Start The Fire : Saturday } --- TheDanger List wrote: > Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 17:07:47 -0400 (EDT) > From: "TheDanger List" > > You are invited to a benefit party for the House of Yes; a communal space > that fell to the flames this past week. The loss is tragic, but the future > is boundless... > > We Didn't Start the Fire > (it was always burning) > Details: http://www.ladycircus.com/fire.html > This Saturday, May 3rd 8pm to 5am > > Featuring Upstairs in the Cabaret Loft: > > Circus Stunts from all of the Lady Circus > http://www.ladycircus.com > You've seen their stilt stunts and aerial acts at street parties, loft > throw downs and in the pages of the local press. The House of Yes was > their home and this is who you are helping to find the next great space to > restart in. They've given you heart and soul and now you can give a little > back. > > And live march-band to electro-funk to human-harmonics by: the Tune-yards, > Sxip Shirey and Adam Matta, Feloche, Secret Special Guest (we’ve been > sworn to not publish their name), Fanfare Samenakoa with Emcee: The Lady > Aye and special appearance by: Jellyboy the Clown > > Plus deep beats on a wicked dance floor featuring: > DJ Ts, the eclectic mixer; DJ Joro Boro the much loved Bulgarian Bar > resident and DJ Dhundee known for his jazz-fueled, afro-beat to hip-hop > mix mastery. > > Downstairs in the Dance 'till you Strip room: > An eclectic mix in this classically less-than-classy New York City > institution: DJ Kimyon the infamous techno aficionado; $mall Change > digging in the crates inspiring you to dance until you break; Zemi17 the > world-infused music creator and D_Juice starting you on your way down the > rabbit hole. > > Of course, there's more: > Spontaneous performances by Modern Dance Awareness Society, visuals by > Mojo, Silent Art Auction (preview 8pm), live silk screen by Peripheral > Media Projects (8pm-10pm) and Carl Saytor's Mega Photobooth. > > This Saturday, May 3rd : 8pm-5am > Arrive before 10pm for special performances, silk screen printing and art > auction preview. > > @ Pussycat Lounge > 96 Greenwich St (at Rector) > Manhattan, NY > (R,W,1 to Rector) > > Strictly 21+ > > $20 Donation/Admission > (Feel free to donate more if you can spare it, either at the door or > online. These performers/creators have lost everything. Every penny goes > to the victims of the fire; every performer and organizer is donating > their time and energy to make this happen. Even the bar is donating a > portion of their profits to the rebuilding of Yes.) > > The House of Yes as it was before: http://web.mac.com/larken/Site/YES.html > And now: http://flickr.com/photos/8645858@N08/sets/72157604718227598/ > > Note: This is not a Danger event. This is an event put together by the > best minds in the city coming from Gemini & Scorpio, Rubulad, Nonsense > NYC, The Madagascar Institute, Lady Circus, House of Yes, TheDanger and > dozens of other volunteers and performers. > > There are moments in this city when the beauty of it seems impossible - > when the skyline is open to you and its streets are yours. The House of > Yes was that rare space which held an ancient conversation of what is > essential in life and how to make those carnal moments as pure and > indelible as ever. > > Then there are moments when old wiring overheats and a huge work of art > catches fire. What seems like the start of another wild story in the > midst of a wild lifestyle turns to flames roaring across the ceiling and > no-way to stop it. Then there's the moment outside when four fire trucks > have finally put out the flames and the fire captain is explaining why the > 1910 style of construction allowed for complete devastation. This is when > the hilarity of New York City comes to its tragic and inevitable end. > This is when you are told your cat's body (Pilgrim) was found in the > corner of the back room. This is when you realize you've lost everything, > from your child-hood journals to the bass guitar bought last week. This > is when you realize all of what you had will be carried away in an urn. > > New York City is a story of tragedy and beauty but this story is not over > yet. Through the past week our community of creators and lost children > has come together in a way that is rare and inspiring. This weekend is > your chance to be a part of a beautiful story rising from ashes. > > Come to the party if you can. You will experience amazing music, > performances and you'll finally meet your next great love. If you can't > come Saturday, donate a little (or a lot) online. You can do so here: > http://www.ladycircus.com/fire.html > > Thank you for everything, > -TheDanger > > ____________________________________ > > TheDanger List > http://www.thedanger.com ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ >>--- NORTHEAST RAVES://hyperreal.org/raves/ne/ -----> Web-based sub/unsub: hyperreal.org/raves/ne/subscription/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org From ne-raves-return-3775-ne-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 03 08:04:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ne-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26783 invoked by uid 1046); 3 May 2008 08:04:49 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26751 invoked from network); 3 May 2008 08:04:48 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=w40Udtu4Rs8YweSvxTCIq+rPALTNE3gmkIqfYr4pq7cLYDLQjWfPO6HLVTTOzGuVZlJE8Y1dZzao2H3tC1VDwBbFHwcl5jb/7MvUqzFnD4nPsrX5rpop3YEPIc0TAGRBg9C+gxnhB1ZjH/lnLUr3+g9mMKXCrWNp56dU7oieMf4=; X-YMail-OSG: hzWNeq0VM1k89dXO67ERIheIP0NaiZU_uEtgryGoeKJpCO.va9o3AVAgwiivoIcZrGz_74xDXrNMCMHnyKAop_jhzkpUQhZYRP68b9xi9seGwzmjPifRYh1SXA-- Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 01:04:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Spurty To: Northeast Raves MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <411005.77318.qm@web55314.mail.re4.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [ne-raves] dailysession :: Transmissions from New York's Underground More tunes from 6-feet below the street in NYC. Super eclectic mix as far as I can tell from what I'm jammin' to at 4am. Now where the frak do we get this 5hit in real time? My stand-bys have all been shuttered. Anyone up on the scene reports? --+<@+@+>--- Dailysession.com is bridging the gap between artist and audience in New York City with daily radio, video and events broadcast directly from the city’s underground. Stay connected with weekly transmissions from Breakbeat Science, Halcyon, Fat Beats, Nise Music, Zakka and more. http://dailysession.com/ --+<@+@+>--- ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. 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=6D=79=73=70=61=63=65=2E=63=6F=6D=2F= =68=73=6F=6D=75=73=69=63 =4B=5A=53=55 =28=6B=7A=73=75=6C=69=76=65=2E=73=74=61=6E=66=6F=72=64=2E=65= =64=75=29 =73=68=6F=77 =54=68 =40 =36-=39=41=4D =55=53=2F=50=61=63=69=66=69= =63 >>--- NORTHEAST RAVES://hyperreal.org/raves/ne/ -----> Web-based sub/unsub: hyperreal.org/raves/ne/subscription/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org From ne-raves-return-3780-ne-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 06 00:19:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ne-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 40929 invoked by uid 1046); 6 May 2008 00:19:21 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 40582 invoked from network); 6 May 2008 00:19:17 -0000 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_f6795513-494c-4915-a69f-b62311ff6a53_" X-Originating-IP: [67.80.85.117] From: mr L To: , Gabber List , Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 20:19:16 -0400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 May 2008 00:19:16.0953 (UTC) FILETIME=[D21C4490:01C8AF0E] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [ne-raves] BK BREAKZ (UPDATE!!) --_f6795513-494c-4915-a69f-b62311ff6a53_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 =20 =20 DUE TO SOME NEW OWNERS 6/14 WILL BE MOVED TO 6/19 THERE WILL BE MORE SOUND AND RENOVATIONS TO EXPAND THE SPACE, AS WELL AS MO= RE OFFERED ME FOR BIGGER EVENTS LIKE THE JULY 5 MASSIVE EVENT WHICH WILL HA= VE A SICK LINEUP WILL BE CONFIRMED ASAP AND TBA ... =20 SINCE 6/19 IS A THURS AND AROUND THAT TIME OF THE MONTH BK BREAKZ WILL BE = HOSTING A UNIFIED VIBES PARTY...FULL LINEUP TBA SOON!!!! =20 FOR MAY 9TH JEDI HAS BEEN ADDED TO THE LINEUP... =20 =20 RUDY STRIFE PRESENTS: BK BREAKZ A REGULAR EVENT SHOWCASING SOME OF THE SICK= EST IN UNDERGROUND BREAKZ N BEATZ DROPPING IN THIS BK TOP HOT SPOT..... 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CON= TACT WWW.MYSPACE.COM/RUDYSTRIFE= --_f6795513-494c-4915-a69f-b62311ff6a53_-- From ne-raves-return-3781-ne-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 07 19:17:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ne-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 53815 invoked by uid 1046); 7 May 2008 19:17:18 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 53759 invoked from network); 7 May 2008 19:17:13 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:reply-to:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:importance:x-mailer:x-mimeole; bh=rTgVU19M8Ld6cjyaYtNwV3wZrkjVi2oCFMyQi0mRPA0=; b=k1pwYhOtFvAd2REzpS9AQzz3YAiNuuUop4gCWPKou6+QzVtBXBgRvgFdJidHJtbTAsfefWERLglUfgnAfQK7KmgU+KJ07tSlaJq4DWv2290Ppv03Dgg/pLZyrCpRZCVFMUY5J24LdxM1lVpWT78sQqci9DPZqd75mmzzs6YhsxA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:reply-to:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:importance:x-mailer:x-mimeole; b=sGaptoBKR7OE77XtoIfcUiiMwZYmle2XQy5aqS33VYbdGFms3hKVaBGr0bMc7pAwL94PM6St3LC1XYDwyUcm9puZTLFNCrFfL+iDhTq6mgzcL02Kf2wsvHTrjpr7MX9dBaZ3D2jAVg1HYisy1XiUaKxLwkg3ad5gFxnuJku/AqY= Message-ID: <907A5FE1B4724FF99AA42027DF0DD1F5@win2k3> Reply-To: "Christopher Bovee" From: "Christopher Bovee" To: Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 15:17:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0345_01C8B055.68090730" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [ne-raves] =?utf-8?Q?iHouse_=E2=80=A2_Albany=2C_NY_=E2=80=A2_May_16_200?= =?utf-8?Q?8_from_9pm_to_4am?= ------=_NextPart_000_0345_01C8B055.68090730 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable iHouse International | House | Music | Showcase at Club Phoenix 348 Central Ave, Albany, NY 12206 redefining house music: House music is a lifestyle... House music is a choice... A way to live... A way to love... It's all in how you mix it. May 16 2008 from 9 pm to 4 am The $10 door charge gets you in and gives you one freebie from the drink = specials offered that night. We have the following DJs confirmed for Friday, May 16th 2008 DJ Trypt www.djtrypt.com | myspace.com/djtrypt Reverend Jay Falkner www.openstream.us | myspace.com/starcatcher The Prodigal Sun www.openstream.us | myspace.com/tommyquaresima DJ Eric G New York-New England Regional EDM Showcase | myspace.com/laerlooper DJ Dynz DJ Dynz House Mix | myspace.com/djdynzmix DJ Rob Haze myspace.com/djrobhaze International House Music Showcase Rules of the Night 1.. This is a 21 and over event. You will need ID.=20 b.. There is a $10 cover, you gotz to pay to play, there is no VIP = list.=20 c.. This is a house music showcase, not a house party, dress to = impress (however that may be for the uniqueness that is you).=20 d.. This is a civilized event; that means no piss, no vomit, no = fights, no drama. If you don't know your own limitations, you might want = to stay home for this one. We get our drink on responsibly.=20 e.. We're here for HOUSE MUSIC, come out and show support for your = scene. We have the class and the classics! So bring it on... Invite your friends, post bulletins, and don't forget to RSVP on MySpace = and Facebook below showing your support. RSVP on MySpace by clicking here. RSVP on Facebook by clicking here. Flyers be found at both Club Phoenix and The Rocks on Central Ave in = Downtown Albany. More details are available from The Rock's website at www.rocks77.com Spread the word... See our ad in the Albany Metroland starting April 24th 2008!! Check out these forums and see what others are saying about iHouse... iHouse @ Raves (dot) com iHouse @ PureRave (dot) com iHouse @ Upstate Underground (dot) net iHouse @ Club Planet (dot) com iHouse @ SPRACI (dot) com iHouse @ Club Zone (dot) com iHouse @ New Rave Order (dot) com ------=_NextPart_000_0345_01C8B055.68090730-- From ne-raves-return-3782-ne-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 09 20:31:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ne-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 39727 invoked by uid 1046); 9 May 2008 20:31:51 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 39614 invoked from network); 9 May 2008 20:31:43 -0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.27,462,1204520400"; d="scan'208";a="41266802" To: ne-raves@hyperreal.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.12 February 13, 2003 Message-ID: From: Mary Morris Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 16:31:30 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on notesmail2/TWP(Release 7.0.3FP1|February 24, 2008) at 05/09/2008 16:31:30 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [ne-raves] nyc tonite Dieselboy: SUBSTANCE D release party at DB's Secret Night of Silence http://www.dogsonacid.com/showthread.php?threadid=572590 "a very special darker version of the Secret Night of Science night, exclusively catered for this record release" Breakbeat Science and HUMAN invite you to the official record release party for Dieselboy: SUBSTANCE D friday, 5/9 doors 10 pm 21+ $10 till 12 am $15 after $3 off with student ID half price drinks until 11:30 pm Club LOVE 179 MacDougal Street at 8th Street with special dark sets by all SNOS residents: DB + a triple-tag-team set by Stress, rodG, Nychavok >>--- NORTHEAST RAVES://hyperreal.org/raves/ne/ -----> Web-based sub/unsub: hyperreal.org/raves/ne/subscription/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org From ne-raves-return-3783-ne-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 09 23:19:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ne-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 74671 invoked by uid 1046); 9 May 2008 23:19:40 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 74630 invoked from network); 9 May 2008 23:19:39 -0000 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_e650d735-c7b4-40da-b546-7148f68a320f_" X-Originating-IP: [67.80.87.248] From: mr L To: , , Gabber List Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 19:19:38 -0400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 May 2008 23:19:38.0593 (UTC) FILETIME=[26E4DD10:01C8B22B] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [ne-raves] time slots for bk breakz tonight FREE!!!!! --_e650d735-c7b4-40da-b546-7148f68a320f_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable BK BREAKZ 5/9 =20 galapagos 70 n 6th st bk, nyc =20 9-10 midi the kid 10-11 amok 11-12 fury8 12-1 jedi 1-2 big ears 2-3 darkstar 3-4 foodstampz =20 visuals by lowkey =20 = --_e650d735-c7b4-40da-b546-7148f68a320f_-- From ne-raves-return-3784-ne-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 11 14:22:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ne-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 90291 invoked by uid 1046); 11 May 2008 14:22:41 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 89742 invoked from network); 11 May 2008 14:22:31 -0000 To: backwardsboarder@aim.com, evil9mm@gmail.com, gabber@hyperreal.org, ne-raves@hyperreal.org Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 10:22:27 -0400 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-AOL-IP: 68.192.253.226 X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 From: njjunglist@aim.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CA818992E077D0_12FC_50B7_webmail-da17.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AIM WebMail 36502-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CA818992D6EE58-12FC-289F@webmail-da17.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [ne-raves] .:JUNGLE RIDDIMS:. FREE PARTY Thur May 15 NYC ----------MB_8CA818992E077D0_12FC_50B7_webmail-da17.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" .:JUNGLE RIDDIMS:. FREE PARTY Thur May 15 NYC Flier at www.jungleriddims.com LIONDUB Ragga Jungle JUNGLIST AT LARGE Ragga Jungle ALIAS Dark Jungle BIG EARS + MC RADIO RUBAIN Ragga Jungle DOVE Ragga Jungle MADNUM Reggae NEFARIOUS + KOKOPELLI CLOUDWALKER Tribal Ragga Jungle Tag Team Please bring canned food to donate to FOOD NOT BOMBS Drink Specials: 2 for 1 Mixed Drinks and Draft Beers till 11:30 pm 9 PM - 3 AM Age 21 + ? 218 Sullivan St (Btwn Bleeker & West 3rd) | jungleriddims.com | unifiedvibes.com | djliondub.com | konkretejungle.com | renegadevirus.org | foodnotbombs.net | septiknexus.com | sullivanroom.com | stereomist.com | bassbot.org | n20records.com | Plan your next roadtrip with MapQuest.com: America's #1 Mapping Site. ----------MB_8CA818992E077D0_12FC_50B7_webmail-da17.sysops.aol.com-- From ne-raves-return-3785-ne-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 12 19:05:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ne-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19189 invoked by uid 1046); 12 May 2008 19:05:37 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19143 invoked from network); 12 May 2008 19:05:35 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:reply-to:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:importance:x-mailer:x-mimeole; bh=TyWkgzZ3SPkyNt+KteGYOf5VNmGB39ZgRyAl6Fo9KsA=; b=WHpcJTXDM9KLUhl6t2vDzcHX6gr55WJlQmXkPQFTvr7qh9xKDA6QwbMougXNYKKD8hDyENkmegZJndDak9gt8aL3LHNf4Yaej6nDrqOVQV5p/Rqg8/BQspFASGe+TM9+4lJqXAdvByvhfu3muXMGv5pY4e8TP0Z9enhPd3gun2g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:reply-to:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:importance:x-mailer:x-mimeole; b=iQOblDAS/nnQ413sjMhMDBvxGL0UzOPcuydQy7F4nSqt35AGxVutd/nQBadAmbOcElRXBhA8zbZTsMY73gvVopz+ZJyPUQQYAjBi4BXudVCRmCyD0OzJ5vJKzRhtQHTvniyb5C8n+9rPP8k6oWJxyvaLwpk8BcIG7pnJ8byQNIM= Message-ID: Reply-To: "Christopher Bovee" From: "Christopher Bovee" To: Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 15:05:29 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0231_01C8B441.9E7DAF10" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [ne-raves] =?utf-8?Q?iHouse_=E2=80=A2_THIS_FRIDAY_=E2=80=A2_Albany=2C_N?= =?utf-8?Q?Y?= ------=_NextPart_000_0231_01C8B441.9E7DAF10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable iHouse International | House | Music | Showcase at Club Phoenix 348 Central Ave, Albany, NY 12206 redefining house music: House music is a lifestyle... House music is a choice... A way to live... A way to love... It's all in how you mix it. May 16 2008 from 9 pm to 4 am The $10 door charge gets you in and gives you one freebie from the drink = specials offered that night. We have the following DJs confirmed for Friday, May 16th 2008 DJ Trypt www.djtrypt.com | myspace.com/djtrypt Reverend Jay Falkner www.openstream.us | myspace.com/starcatcher The Prodigal Sun www.openstream.us | myspace.com/tommyquaresima DJ Eric G New York-New England Regional EDM Showcase | myspace.com/laerlooper DJ Dynz DJ Dynz House Mix | myspace.com/djdynzmix DJ Rob Haze myspace.com/djrobhaze International House Music Showcase Rules of the Night 1.. This is a 21 and over event. You will need ID.=20 b.. There is a $10 cover, you gotz to pay to play, there is no VIP = list.=20 c.. This is a house music showcase, not a house party, dress to = impress (however that may be for the uniqueness that is you).=20 d.. This is a civilized event; that means no piss, no vomit, no = fights, no drama. If you don't know your own limitations, you might want = to stay home for this one. We get our drink on responsibly.=20 e.. We're here for HOUSE MUSIC, come out and show support for your = scene. We have the class and the classics! So bring it on... Invite your friends, post bulletins, and don't forget to RSVP on MySpace = and Facebook below showing your support. RSVP on MySpace by clicking here. RSVP on Facebook by clicking here. Flyers be found at both Club Phoenix and The Rocks on Central Ave in = Downtown Albany. More details are available from The Rock's website at www.rocks77.com Spread the word... See our ad in the Albany Metroland starting April 24th 2008!! Check out these forums and see what others are saying about iHouse... iHouse @ Raves (dot) com iHouse @ PureRave (dot) com iHouse @ Upstate Underground (dot) net iHouse @ Club Planet (dot) com iHouse @ SPRACI (dot) com iHouse @ Club Zone (dot) com iHouse @ New Rave Order (dot) com ------=_NextPart_000_0231_01C8B441.9E7DAF10-- From ne-raves-return-3786-ne-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 13 14:53:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ne-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 59879 invoked by uid 1046); 13 May 2008 14:53:10 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 59804 invoked from network); 13 May 2008 14:53:09 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=CsohLzYr48jKbmn3w6baYCSSsxUp+dayMkd0BWyfIhlwtE/N4oAsmIhquAfyxr4q7n+zEcV4cPMAik1/+6H/oMhoAst440BulV1aK8gjO2Fgj+WrhyWXJqrm1VMfkP0TAHErOkFJu5ol3SV7roUhTacmIPxchlzcbLfrRqt62Rw=; X-YMail-OSG: _wWy3ZkVM1lw6e7DZUcmNvzyw8DMeo2LZts76aWwyjuYMpSkQUR6UOUrkg4712hrF6w4PM_1AhPhq88WwQ_xxmutBVHsoKieK14X9t5lMDggHebYDsaqmiUH.Ts- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.185 Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 07:53:08 -0700 (PDT) From: eshin Reply-To: djeshin@yahoo.com To: ne-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <28931.97186.qm@web50505.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [ne-raves] FRI 05/16 - DREAM - Monthly DnB Benefit Event (NYC) Friday :: May 16, 2008=20 MOTHER OF PEARL presents:=20 DREAM=20 A Monthly Drum & Bass Benefit Event!!=20 featuring...=20 BREAKER=20 (Guerilla | Ohm Resistance | Obliterati)=20 PROPER VILLAINS=20 (Jon [s] | Joe Wize)=20 DJ STRESS=20 (The Secret Night of Science | Team Ewok | DeepField Audio)=20 TRIGON=20 (Team Ewok NYC | Bassjunkees Radio)=20 NEFARIOUS & KOKOPELLI CLOUDWALKER=20 (Flo' Rizm | stereomist.com | bassbot.org)=20 with your host and B-DAY BOY:=20 MC DYLZ=20 (St8cyde Jump Up | DNBC)=20 Location:=20 Bar Bleu @ Caf=E9 Deville (downstairs)=20 103 3rd Ave (@ 13th St.)=20 New York, NY=20 21 to enter *Bring ID*=20 Doors Open 10pm - 4am=20 $7 B4 Midnight, $10 After=20 Drink Specials:=20 $4 Well Drinks & Beers 11pm - 12am, $4 Shots ALL NIGHT!=20 Net proceeds donated to Shriners Hospital for Children - Philadelphia!!! >>--- NORTHEAST RAVES://hyperreal.org/raves/ne/ -----> Web-based sub/unsub: hyperreal.org/raves/ne/subscription/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org From ne-raves-return-3787-ne-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 13 15:29:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ne-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 96681 invoked by uid 1046); 13 May 2008 15:29:22 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 96613 invoked from network); 13 May 2008 15:29:18 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=T/qQJZemddmo5suRGmvs47pZZtAQQ3llAWrLfCgQ9Eej8jWSif1ySO1AwcjtSHJ7hWFSw3bTwYU8vZp1vp3W8bQihisgrpnPbAWkyUFBONqVexM6zIKc6wlReveU1gmaEz7klHb7S8Ohj0LbptGfldxG0T8lIipq9/53HlyU4Pk=; X-YMail-OSG: T4dVhREVM1kCiHzwfGTv4xbjsnw2_0nkgALaXn1RWyhQMrBvrUNZ8Rw21GsZrG0xANuDOLNsZcwzEGq3pnAroWcOmZH2Hob02Zp4A0I8YpDyhrXl88mqAUHDGg-- Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 08:29:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Spurty To: Northeast Raves MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0-703760942-1210692558=:61666" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <585784.61666.qm@web55310.mail.re4.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [ne-raves] NYC - Fwd: [MetroMo] Join Metropolis in Motion at the Dance Parade May 17th! --0-703760942-1210692558=:61666 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Id: Content-Disposition: inline > From: John McGarvey > To: announce@metromo.org > Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 14:34:59 -0400 > > DANCE PARADE 2008 > Metropolis in Motion – Call for Volunteers > > Hey dancers— > > In case you don’t already know, the 2nd ever Dance Parade is coming up > Saturday, May 17th. While the Parade is a celebration of dance in all > its many forms, Metropolis in Motion will be there to remind folks > that the cabaret laws restricting dance in NYC are still on the books, > and even though we’ve been quiet, we haven’t forgotten them and we > still want them gone! > > We need your help with one (or both) of two things: > > 1) DANCE WITH US IN THE PARADE > > > We’ll be dancing dressed in prisoner uniforms as a visual reminder > that dance is not free in NYC! You can get a prisoner uniform at any > local costume shop, like Halloween Adventure, or make your own if you > have an orange jumpsuit or any black & white striped clothing! Don’t > have anything like that? No problem – come dressed in white and we’ll > stick black tape “stripes” on you. Meet us at 12:15, parade starts at > 1pm. > > 2) HELP STAFF THE METROPOLIS IN MOTION TABLE at THE DANCE FESTIVAL > AFTER THE PARADE > > > The Parade will end at 4pm in Thompkins Square Park, and from 4-8pm > there will be a variety of dance performances as well as various > organizations tabling and giving their information out to festival- > goers. We’ll be distributing an updated fact sheet on the cabaret > laws and asking folks to sign up to our email list. > > Let us know if you want to dance with us in the Parade or staff the > table before May 17th > > RSVP at mj@metropolisinmotion.org and we'll send you details. > > Not only is the Dance Parade a tremendous opportunity to get our > message out to the public – it’s probably the most fun way to do it. > We hope you’ll join us! > > Sincerely, > MJ and the Metropolis in Motion team > > PS For more information on the Dance Parade, including start time and > parade route, go to www.danceparade.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > announce mailing list > announce@metromo.org > http://metromo.org/mailman/listinfo/announce_metromo.org --0-703760942-1210692558=:61666 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Description: pat1281301518 Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ announce mailing list announce@metromo.org http://metromo.org/mailman/listinfo/announce_metromo.org --0-703760942-1210692558=:61666 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>--- NORTHEAST RAVES://hyperreal.org/raves/ne/ -----> Web-based sub/unsub: hyperreal.org/raves/ne/subscription/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org --0-703760942-1210692558=:61666-- From ne-raves-return-3788-ne-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 14 18:14:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ne-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16885 invoked by uid 1046); 14 May 2008 18:14:04 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16713 invoked from network); 14 May 2008 18:13:54 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=u51KL9UcHg6Ha86qdUrLr3Nq/PFk/Q5TxhPTpV9roko=; b=DSyZG5gMQvaMtizMGzizSgfeUMP5fygO8x+CoZCcPuExVMmtqXEkh9YGORO7N01h/QIiUKW2kpV/tV9cV1ZQHqx39nmmdN2+Mk0qca7WTLxB32fGxAbuI5CrBCmdL3k2iVEHEVbV51xOcM83HiH7EUIXEhmtn7nXeLJ8H1gBlrQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=kzuzqKLzxn64NETvwFcFd4o+OLSCkAwBmem/yl7nbvMH9LwC/KTcWBfcmdxwIeq7w4pMR+C9fSZDP4oq4qySC9gFHMY6O96ZVhVImIWRlD6zHpu7dD/UNr5JxFd30gmL6NS890HxVVpsiSVsiU/W2eLjvTSyJ2mCm+xqUQxwZRc= Message-ID: <28dace3b0805141113s29b47e37l963b4260758da739@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 14:13:54 -0400 From: "David Quintiliani" To: ne-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [ne-raves] [dubstep] NYC this Friday - DUB WAR DEEP MEDI NIGHT w/ MALA (dmz) This Friday MALA (dmz, digital mystikz, london) brings his groundbreaking Deep Medi Label to Dub War NYC for a night of the deepest dubstep on the planet. Weighty sub-bass, meditative atmospheres, and a rasta mindset combine to form the template of the Deep Medi sound. Newcomers QUEST & SILKIE (anti-social entertainment, london) also make their US debut, and have been responsible for some of the most innovative releases in dubstep this year. Selector Moldy also joins, celebrating his debut release on Deep Medi. DMZ's resident MC Sgt Pokes returns on guest hosting duties, as well as John Ask from Baltimore, who explores the breadth of the dub music old and new. Friday May 16 DUB WAR DEEP MEDI NIGHT feat: MALA (digital mystikz, dmz) QUEST & SILKIE (anti-social entertainment) SELECTOR MOLDY (heavy pressure) MC SGT POKES (dmz) JOHN ASK (downtempo soundsystem) + the residents: DAVE Q + MC JUAKALI (no Joe Nice due to another booking) 10pm til late 21+ (bring ID) cost: $10 advance or before midnight, $15 after midnight advance tix at www.musicislove.net Location: LOVE 179 MacDougal St @ 8th St, NYC Subway: A,C,E,B,D,F,V to West 4th www.myspace.com/deepmedi www.myspace.com/dubwarnyc >>--- NORTHEAST RAVES://hyperreal.org/raves/ne/ -----> Web-based sub/unsub: hyperreal.org/raves/ne/subscription/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org From ne-raves-return-3789-ne-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 15 19:04:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ne-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 46530 invoked by uid 1046); 15 May 2008 19:04:08 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 46453 invoked from network); 15 May 2008 19:04:05 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:reply-to:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:importance:x-mailer:x-mimeole; bh=ZKADWa6vz7SeXpRLSINu9DZ4hZMsm+GjXp54BBSrfic=; b=YtSVi+giWFYBwgCJT0jSsGnDUJOjBTmJ02OIYiz5/deGOdBuNWtT8wPN/G3MqSUQiJIa5S9Cp1BaVJFpdjjStDaMSfLH5wB88jD9CtPDFYsRLz0wMmlwU435Vsw+LCDq3DFXa0kpR4t0/PZ/XhJWupFhbucRfn1fXWeCaN36L94= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:reply-to:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:importance:x-mailer:x-mimeole; b=JbfdzD/uFUgoH/wjX3H5nkRUFbIshjiKBKs2RGWLXOTzgOwSrFOVljxKJotqyv2FQr7DQ9vzamHYtu+wnLXYc3BquiN1wKxK+cdT4T41IzJWAkXQP67290WW7DBLOPmK3dV9/aq7cq1fDWhAyKLWJEuZr+Jp36GXDgX36o9gs4o= Message-ID: <053F7E5E626645D79C162BDE2E5BB318@win2k3> Reply-To: "Christopher Bovee" From: "Christopher Bovee" To: Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 15:03:55 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_007F_01C8B69C.E5E62DC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [ne-raves] =?utf-8?Q?iHouse_=E2=80=A2_TOMORROW_=28FRIDAY=29_=E2=80=A2_Alb?= =?utf-8?Q?any=2C_NY?= ------=_NextPart_000_007F_01C8B69C.E5E62DC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable iHouse International | House | Music | Showcase at Club Phoenix 348 Central Ave, Albany, NY 12206 redefining house music: House music is a lifestyle... House music is a choice... A way to live... A way to love... It's all in how you mix it. May 16 2008 from 9 pm to 4 am The $10 door charge gets you in and gives you one freebie from the drink = specials offered that night. We have the following DJs confirmed for Friday, May 16th 2008 DJ Trypt www.djtrypt.com | myspace.com/djtrypt Reverend Jay Falkner www.openstream.us | myspace.com/starcatcher The Prodigal Sun www.openstream.us | myspace.com/tommyquaresima DJ Eric G New York-New England Regional EDM Showcase | myspace.com/laerlooper DJ Dynz DJ Dynz House Mix | myspace.com/djdynzmix DJ Rob Haze myspace.com/djrobhaze International House Music Showcase Rules of the Night 1.. This is a 21 and over event. You will need ID.=20 b.. There is a $10 cover, you gotz to pay to play, there is no VIP = list.=20 c.. This is a house music showcase, not a house party, dress to = impress (however that may be for the uniqueness that is you).=20 d.. This is a civilized event; that means no piss, no vomit, no = fights, no drama. If you don't know your own limitations, you might want = to stay home for this one. We get our drink on responsibly.=20 e.. We're here for HOUSE MUSIC, come out and show support for your = scene. We have the class and the classics! So bring it on... Invite your friends, post bulletins, and don't forget to RSVP on MySpace = and Facebook below showing your support. RSVP on MySpace by clicking here. RSVP on Facebook by clicking here. Flyers be found at both Club Phoenix and The Rocks on Central Ave in = Downtown Albany. More details are available from The Rock's website at www.rocks77.com Spread the word... See our ad in the Albany Metroland starting April 24th 2008!! Check out these forums and see what others are saying about iHouse... iHouse @ Raves (dot) com iHouse @ PureRave (dot) com iHouse @ Upstate Underground (dot) net iHouse @ Club Planet (dot) com iHouse @ SPRACI (dot) com iHouse @ Club Zone (dot) com iHouse @ New Rave Order (dot) com ------=_NextPart_000_007F_01C8B69C.E5E62DC0-- From ne-raves-return-3790-ne-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 17 00:11:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ne-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 38138 invoked by uid 1046); 17 May 2008 00:11:45 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 38069 invoked from network); 17 May 2008 00:11:43 -0000 Message-ID: <1459.205.172.234.156.1210983104.squirrel@webmail.seattletechno.com> Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 17:11:44 -0700 (PDT) From: "groovinkim" To: ne-raves@hyperreal.org Reply-To: replyhere@seattletechno.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.10a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [ne-raves] nyc visitor begs for aid 'lo all! i'm kimberley. i've been occasionally on and off this list over the years. i live in seattle and do the http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/nw page & http://www.nwtekno.org. i'm here to question you 'cause i'm making a rare visit to nyc next week. i've been there all of once and saw very little, so this'll be my first real visit of any length. actually it's mostly coincidental; i'm going to mutek and i couldn't afford to fly to montreal directly, but i discovered that rt to nyc & then taking the train to montreal from there was much more affordable. but i loved what little i saw of nyc previously and am v. excited. i arrive saturday the 24th and will be about 'til wednesday the 28th when i head to montreal. i return on wednesday june 4 and can seek fun that night too. i love many kinds of thumping, bleeping & squelching electronic music, particularly bleepy minimal techno, house in all its forms, dubstep, idm. hiphop too. i was hoping to check out the m83 shows but they sold out too quickly :/ other random things i am fond of: street art/graffiti, film that makes you say wtf, tea, anywhere with wifi, biking, dance dance revolution, burning man, thrift stores, hula hooping. when i travel i prefer avoiding tourist crap and hanging out where locals go. any tips on events i might enjoy (musical or otherwise) or good sites to check out for information would be much appreciated =] if anyone has couchspace for a few old ravers on tuesday the 27th or wednesday the 4th that would also be awesome. i'd happily return the favor by showing you about should you find yourself in seattle or thereabouts =) thanks in advance for any tips... kim http://www.to-evolve.com * \[-_-]\/[-_-]/ >>--- NORTHEAST RAVES://hyperreal.org/raves/ne/ -----> Web-based sub/unsub: hyperreal.org/raves/ne/subscription/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org From ne-raves-return-3791-ne-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 17 11:43:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ne-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 83041 invoked by uid 1046); 17 May 2008 11:43:28 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 82911 invoked from network); 17 May 2008 11:43:20 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=Juzvqx12VaphaHwJWsBcFDGV0UgWvt9RYNstd0SARD8=; b=fJ74Ne8SNYSpeEokruxifZaiKrH5x30n9WkwggPyUCGOlMrS1NZHC5GQeCX6zloirbR84E3SErgz1d2rct7D5XpAQER4WXvNRqiNu9frqS+HZfcMgyrydyzigZmHs0LGra2aKG/NO1Zrn7F5/RO30fh9losGepgnK1NoCJTY4VU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=fLCCrjRONliHTtTocR9WQggM3p9CFqPCs5ytgJgeGtPHJvx6gByMIMsZoRHvKafG0It33GRDnbJEpxg9hioloAdlfTDCg9ni14s0N1fdMtzFQF0ot8etP6fd15P/H8ENHsTNGjzikDgQD2153Qu3kVjc5H7/BNVMRxexTi3QLTU= Message-ID: <63b87f4d0805170443r255390f4j13c1d2fdd5e9f694@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 07:43:19 -0400 From: "The Work It Circuit" To: replyhere@seattletechno.com Cc: ne-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <1459.205.172.234.156.1210983104.squirrel@webmail.seattletechno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_10968_17267843.1211024599485" References: <1459.205.172.234.156.1210983104.squirrel@webmail.seattletechno.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] nyc visitor begs for aid ------=_Part_10968_17267843.1211024599485 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline The list has been quiet for awhile, but hopefully someone can come to your aid (I can't!). Have fun in NYC! KeNNy! On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 8:11 PM, groovinkim wrote: > 'lo all! i'm kimberley. i've been occasionally on and off this list over > the years. i live in seattle and do the http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/nw > page & http://www.nwtekno.org. > > i'm here to question you 'cause i'm making a rare visit to nyc next week. > i've been there all of once and saw very little, so this'll be my first > real visit of any length. actually it's mostly coincidental; i'm going to > mutek and i couldn't afford to fly to montreal directly, but i discovered > that rt to nyc & then taking the train to montreal from there was much > more affordable. but i loved what little i saw of nyc previously and am v. > excited. > > i arrive saturday the 24th and will be about 'til wednesday the 28th when > i head to montreal. i return on wednesday june 4 and can seek fun that > night too. > > i love many kinds of thumping, bleeping & squelching electronic music, > particularly bleepy minimal techno, house in all its forms, dubstep, idm. > hiphop too. i was hoping to check out the m83 shows but they sold out too > quickly :/ > > other random things i am fond of: street art/graffiti, film that makes you > say wtf, tea, anywhere with wifi, biking, dance dance revolution, burning > man, thrift stores, hula hooping. > > when i travel i prefer avoiding tourist crap and hanging out where locals > go. any tips on events i might enjoy (musical or otherwise) or good sites > to check out for information would be much appreciated =] if anyone has > couchspace for a few old ravers on tuesday the 27th or wednesday the 4th > that would also be awesome. > > i'd happily return the favor by showing you about should you find yourself > in seattle or thereabouts =) thanks in advance for any tips... > > kim > > http://www.to-evolve.com * \[-_-]\/[-_-]/ > > > > >>--- NORTHEAST RAVES://hyperreal.org/raves/ne/ -----> > Web-based sub/unsub: hyperreal.org/raves/ne/subscription/ > To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org > > -- KeNNy! AIM: Munkeybuttt Yahoo Mess: Jungleboogiemonster http://ghetto.hjsoft.com ------=_Part_10968_17267843.1211024599485-- From ne-raves-return-3792-ne-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 17 13:27:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ne-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 88866 invoked by uid 1046); 17 May 2008 13:27:06 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 88811 invoked from network); 17 May 2008 13:27:04 -0000 Message-ID: <482EDCA8.9070708@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 09:24:56 -0400 From: C4 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: The Work It Circuit CC: replyhere@seattletechno.com, ne-raves@hyperreal.org References: <1459.205.172.234.156.1210983104.squirrel@webmail.seattletechno.com> <63b87f4d0805170443r255390f4j13c1d2fdd5e9f694@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <63b87f4d0805170443r255390f4j13c1d2fdd5e9f694@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------020504020402040805040406" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] nyc visitor begs for aid --------------020504020402040805040406 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'd recommend checking club love (http://www.musicislove.net/) to anyone, if for nothing else than the cool environment and blow-your-mind-without-making-your-ears-bleed sound system. Metro Area is playing that night. Should be quite housey. Too bad you're not going to be around for one of their Secret Nights of Science. Drum & Bass on that system is perfection. The Work It Circuit wrote: > The list has been quiet for awhile, but hopefully someone can come to your > aid (I can't!). Have fun in NYC! > > KeNNy! > > On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 8:11 PM, groovinkim > wrote: > > >> 'lo all! i'm kimberley. i've been occasionally on and off this list over >> the years. i live in seattle and do the http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/nw >> page & http://www.nwtekno.org. >> >> i'm here to question you 'cause i'm making a rare visit to nyc next week. >> i've been there all of once and saw very little, so this'll be my first >> real visit of any length. actually it's mostly coincidental; i'm going to >> mutek and i couldn't afford to fly to montreal directly, but i discovered >> that rt to nyc & then taking the train to montreal from there was much >> more affordable. but i loved what little i saw of nyc previously and am v. >> excited. >> >> i arrive saturday the 24th and will be about 'til wednesday the 28th when >> i head to montreal. i return on wednesday june 4 and can seek fun that >> night too. >> >> i love many kinds of thumping, bleeping & squelching electronic music, >> particularly bleepy minimal techno, house in all its forms, dubstep, idm. >> hiphop too. i was hoping to check out the m83 shows but they sold out too >> quickly :/ >> >> other random things i am fond of: street art/graffiti, film that makes you >> say wtf, tea, anywhere with wifi, biking, dance dance revolution, burning >> man, thrift stores, hula hooping. >> >> when i travel i prefer avoiding tourist crap and hanging out where locals >> go. any tips on events i might enjoy (musical or otherwise) or good sites >> to check out for information would be much appreciated =] if anyone has >> couchspace for a few old ravers on tuesday the 27th or wednesday the 4th >> that would also be awesome. >> >> i'd happily return the favor by showing you about should you find yourself >> in seattle or thereabouts =) thanks in advance for any tips... >> >> kim >> >> http://www.to-evolve.com * \[-_-]\/[-_-]/ >> >> >> >> >>>> --- NORTHEAST RAVES://hyperreal.org/raves/ne/ -----> >>>> >> Web-based sub/unsub: hyperreal.org/raves/ne/subscription/ >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org >> >> >> > > > --------------020504020402040805040406-- From ne-raves-return-3793-ne-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 18 04:57:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ne-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 91898 invoked by uid 1046); 18 May 2008 04:57:45 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 91858 invoked from network); 18 May 2008 04:57:43 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=W9/upjOzrRvZ8WW8Cja7WNG8t3rFW122WPJL+94y+n0=; b=kX3y4KhOqJ8X0lCYE3NVXNM1w3iyyLn4uvlKY5S8XcGcDemUbQZliU0RV7afR+KTk3LALwylyuboD6hnCdhf++hgIPxsPZ9If77z96WLbuNhactHiPWY2aHIlEHDWsXWc8xePBblpzzUhwOQRoVE3agG1XMuKQNQWQsgyBIVUOo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=x3b/bHbwUMWuGVMi/7di7Aye22a2CWWIccwsNguxwh62NZuChTsZ1DAth10+VoGDFMiyZscNVQLQHuntC/MbFtp/U3FAD0dPjf35b2Y7csdhREEwBhywpAZ8sMQ1Kpt3j8f/jFh1AagkjT6kZjcz+bRVY7uKT2YYh+htYPaEhH4= Message-ID: <29fcd0a0805172157s2ddece01tf171604c660a1a03@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 00:57:42 -0400 From: "count zero" To: C4 Cc: "The Work It Circuit" , replyhere@seattletechno.com, ne-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <482EDCA8.9070708@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1459.205.172.234.156.1210983104.squirrel@webmail.seattletechno.com> <63b87f4d0805170443r255390f4j13c1d2fdd5e9f694@mail.gmail.com> <482EDCA8.9070708@gmail.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] nyc visitor begs for aid good lookin' out!!! i'm now definitely going to try to make it out to hear metro area at love, my spiritual home in new york. On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 9:24 AM, C4 wrote: > I'd recommend checking club love (http://www.musicislove.net/) to anyone, if > for nothing else than the cool environment and > blow-your-mind-without-making-your-ears-bleed sound system. Metro Area is > playing that night. Should be quite housey. Too bad you're not going to be > around for one of their Secret Nights of Science. Drum & Bass on that > system is perfection. > > The Work It Circuit wrote: >> >> The list has been quiet for awhile, but hopefully someone can come to your >> aid (I can't!). Have fun in NYC! >> >> KeNNy! >> >> On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 8:11 PM, groovinkim >> wrote: >> >> >>> >>> 'lo all! i'm kimberley. i've been occasionally on and off this list over >>> the years. i live in seattle and do the http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/nw >>> page & http://www.nwtekno.org. >>> >>> i'm here to question you 'cause i'm making a rare visit to nyc next week. >>> i've been there all of once and saw very little, so this'll be my first >>> real visit of any length. actually it's mostly coincidental; i'm going to >>> mutek and i couldn't afford to fly to montreal directly, but i discovered >>> that rt to nyc & then taking the train to montreal from there was much >>> more affordable. but i loved what little i saw of nyc previously and am >>> v. >>> excited. >>> >>> i arrive saturday the 24th and will be about 'til wednesday the 28th when >>> i head to montreal. i return on wednesday june 4 and can seek fun that >>> night too. >>> >>> i love many kinds of thumping, bleeping & squelching electronic music, >>> particularly bleepy minimal techno, house in all its forms, dubstep, idm. >>> hiphop too. i was hoping to check out the m83 shows but they sold out too >>> quickly :/ >>> >>> other random things i am fond of: street art/graffiti, film that makes >>> you >>> say wtf, tea, anywhere with wifi, biking, dance dance revolution, burning >>> man, thrift stores, hula hooping. >>> >>> when i travel i prefer avoiding tourist crap and hanging out where locals >>> go. any tips on events i might enjoy (musical or otherwise) or good sites >>> to check out for information would be much appreciated =] if anyone has >>> couchspace for a few old ravers on tuesday the 27th or wednesday the 4th >>> that would also be awesome. >>> >>> i'd happily return the favor by showing you about should you find >>> yourself >>> in seattle or thereabouts =) thanks in advance for any tips... >>> >>> kim >>> >>> http://www.to-evolve.com * \[-_-]\/[-_-]/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>> >>>>> --- NORTHEAST RAVES://hyperreal.org/raves/ne/ -----> >>>>> >>> >>> Web-based sub/unsub: hyperreal.org/raves/ne/subscription/ >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > -- peace, frank . count zero dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com >>--- NORTHEAST RAVES://hyperreal.org/raves/ne/ -----> Web-based sub/unsub: hyperreal.org/raves/ne/subscription/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org From ne-raves-return-3794-ne-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 18 21:29:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ne-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11151 invoked by uid 1046); 18 May 2008 21:29:04 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10980 invoked from network); 18 May 2008 21:28:56 -0000 Message-ID: <20080518172856.5tvuejg6coo4goo0@webmail.publicspaceforall.com> Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 17:28:56 -0400 From: keymaker@publicspaceforall.com To: replyhere@seattletechno.com, groovinkim Cc: ne-raves@hyperreal.org, ralph@publicspaceforall.net References: <1459.205.172.234.156.1210983104.squirrel@webmail.seattletechno.com> In-Reply-To: <1459.205.172.234.156.1210983104.squirrel@webmail.seattletechno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.4) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] nyc visitor begs for aid Hey Kim, This is from Ralph who you know well from my years living in Seattle. I saw this yesterday and just had a chance to reply today. Oddly =20 enough I saw your post on nwtekno awhile after your post there. You =20 may have missed my reply. I posted on Hugemassif about you coming to =20 NYC and Steph who runs that board and others may be able to help you =20 with a place to stay not too far away in NJ. I does not make sense =20 for me to offer a place to crash as I live over two hours away from =20 Manhattan on Long Island. Like I said I am very happy to hear you are coming to NYC and a few =20 other people like Steph and others would certainly like to meet up =20 with you. I will try sending an email from my other account on a =20 different server because this email has sometimes been blocked. I'll =20 check to see if this gets through and email you tomorrow. I suggested =20 on Huge a meetup for dinner or going to some event when you are in =20 town. One of the best email lists to get on in nyc is the Gemini and =20 Scorpio list - you are sure to enjoy most of what they give a heads up =20 on - I know what you like so I'll look out for events and post them on =20 here - things have been quiet on here here is the way to subscribe to the email and it comes out once a week =20 - the website is not up to date http://www.geminiandscorpio.com/events_list.html Yes I really can't say how good it would be to see you and I seriously =20 do miss many people in Seattle - NYC is fun to visit no doubt - but =20 something has been lost here - anyways there is lots to say and who =20 know this could spur a little blip of life on this list too so write me back at this address or the other in the cc Ralph/kairos Quoting groovinkim : > 'lo all! i'm kimberley. i've been occasionally on and off this list over > the years. i live in seattle and do the http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/nw > page & http://www.nwtekno.org. > > i'm here to question you 'cause i'm making a rare visit to nyc next week. > i've been there all of once and saw very little, so this'll be my first > real visit of any length. actually it's mostly coincidental; i'm going to > mutek and i couldn't afford to fly to montreal directly, but i discovered > that rt to nyc & then taking the train to montreal from there was much > more affordable. but i loved what little i saw of nyc previously and am v. > excited. > > i arrive saturday the 24th and will be about 'til wednesday the 28th when > i head to montreal. i return on wednesday june 4 and can seek fun that > night too. > > i love many kinds of thumping, bleeping & squelching electronic music, > particularly bleepy minimal techno, house in all its forms, dubstep, idm. > hiphop too. i was hoping to check out the m83 shows but they sold out too > quickly :/ > > other random things i am fond of: street art/graffiti, film that makes you > say wtf, tea, anywhere with wifi, biking, dance dance revolution, burning > man, thrift stores, hula hooping. > > when i travel i prefer avoiding tourist crap and hanging out where locals > go. any tips on events i might enjoy (musical or otherwise) or good sites > to check out for information would be much appreciated =3D] if anyone has > couchspace for a few old ravers on tuesday the 27th or wednesday the 4th > that would also be awesome. > > i'd happily return the favor by showing you about should you find yourself > in seattle or thereabouts =3D) thanks in advance for any tips... > > kim > > http://www.to-evolve.com * \[-_-]\/[-_-]/ > > > >>> --- NORTHEAST RAVES://hyperreal.org/raves/ne/ -----> > Web-based sub/unsub: hyperreal.org/raves/ne/subscription/ > To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org > > >>--- NORTHEAST RAVES://hyperreal.org/raves/ne/ -----> Web-based sub/unsub: hyperreal.org/raves/ne/subscription/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org From ne-raves-return-3795-ne-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 18 23:27:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ne-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 95473 invoked by uid 1046); 18 May 2008 23:27:16 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 95436 invoked from network); 18 May 2008 23:27:14 -0000 Message-ID: <4830BB4B.8090800@ikickass.org> Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 19:27:07 -0400 From: Sridhar Ayengar User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.13) Gecko/20080313 SeaMonkey/1.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: replyhere@seattletechno.com CC: ne-raves@hyperreal.org References: <1459.205.172.234.156.1210983104.squirrel@webmail.seattletechno.com> In-Reply-To: <1459.205.172.234.156.1210983104.squirrel@webmail.seattletechno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] nyc visitor begs for aid groovinkim wrote: > 'lo all! i'm kimberley. i've been occasionally on and off this list over > the years. i live in seattle and do the http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/nw > page & http://www.nwtekno.org. > > i'm here to question you 'cause i'm making a rare visit to nyc next week. > i've been there all of once and saw very little, so this'll be my first > real visit of any length. actually it's mostly coincidental; i'm going to > mutek and i couldn't afford to fly to montreal directly, but i discovered > that rt to nyc & then taking the train to montreal from there was much > more affordable. but i loved what little i saw of nyc previously and am v. > excited. > > i arrive saturday the 24th and will be about 'til wednesday the 28th when > i head to montreal. i return on wednesday june 4 and can seek fun that > night too. > > i love many kinds of thumping, bleeping & squelching electronic music, > particularly bleepy minimal techno, house in all its forms, dubstep, idm. > hiphop too. i was hoping to check out the m83 shows but they sold out too > quickly :/ > > other random things i am fond of: street art/graffiti, film that makes you > say wtf, tea, anywhere with wifi, biking, dance dance revolution, burning > man, thrift stores, hula hooping. > > when i travel i prefer avoiding tourist crap and hanging out where locals > go. any tips on events i might enjoy (musical or otherwise) or good sites > to check out for information would be much appreciated =] if anyone has > couchspace for a few old ravers on tuesday the 27th or wednesday the 4th > that would also be awesome. > > i'd happily return the favor by showing you about should you find yourself > in seattle or thereabouts =) thanks in advance for any tips... Hi Kim! I know NYC fairly well and party there whenever I can, so I usually make a pretty good guide. You're also welcome to crash at my place, but I'm not in the city. I'm about a 1.5 hour train ride from Manhattan. I don't know if that works for you or not. Peace... Sridhar >>--- NORTHEAST RAVES://hyperreal.org/raves/ne/ -----> Web-based sub/unsub: hyperreal.org/raves/ne/subscription/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org From ne-raves-return-3796-ne-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 18 23:46:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ne-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9557 invoked by uid 1046); 18 May 2008 23:46:53 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9510 invoked from network); 18 May 2008 23:46:52 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:MIME-Version:Date:Subject:From:Reply-To:To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=2qLve/VgshuH3m9fEDhAha0BxHnS3JQJF8/Ozb2N5tui/+sYqEq2hJhR5xaIfdRTLzAEYbor4onEjrnUukFNTYpaj1gr0AkuLaIaavuD+xNhAB1x7YTJ50n7+mCo+vzpXoiKufFoa01qNboyRoY2vp8i3hA04Xb518Tk/+GlPSk= ; X-YMail-OSG: gGk1pAkVM1llrRqVwi0HJSuxhKo1qsEEVktaQbUh2boEl5GcMnzlcuhjAU5YjoUmChisYa2oLqGuzcsZbfxOLgXoXOvVQyNFikni5opIN9CMIYU1b6n1EmNJhe70MLz72M0PLSsjznnWWm2lN9RI9FA- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 16:46:49 -0700 From: "Dougie Fresh" Reply-To: "Dougie Fresh" To: ,"groovinkim" Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [ne-raves] Re:[ne-raves] nyc visitor begs for aid Check out rhythmism.com. They have a calendar with various events going on = in the city. Hope it suits your taste! enjoy n.y. ---------- Sent from the Cingular network using Mobile Email ------Original Message------ From: groovinkim To: Date: Fri, May 16, 2008 05:11 PM Subject: [ne-raves] nyc visitor begs for aid 'lo all! i'm kimberley. i've been occasionally on and off this list over the years. i live in seattle and do the http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/nw page & http://www.nwtekno.org. i'm here to question you 'cause i'm making a rare visit to nyc next week. i've been there all of once and saw very little, so this'll be my first real visit of any length. actually it's mostly coincidental; i'm going to mutek and i couldn't afford to fly to montreal directly, but i discovered that rt to nyc & then taking the train to montreal from there was much more affordable. but i loved what little i saw of nyc previously and am v. excited. i arrive saturday the 24th and will be about 'til wednesday the 28th when i head to montreal. i return on wednesday june 4 and can seek fun that night too. i love many kinds of thumping, bleeping & squelching electronic music, particularly bleepy minimal techno, house in all its forms, dubstep, idm. hiphop too. i was hoping to check out the m83 shows but they sold out too quickly :/ other random things i am fond of: street art/graffiti, film that makes you say wtf, tea, anywhere with wifi, biking, dance dance revolution, burning man, thrift stores, hula hooping. when i travel i prefer avoiding tourist crap and hanging out where locals go. any tips on events i might enjoy (musical or otherwise) or good sites to check out for information would be much appreciated =3D] if anyone has couchspace for a few old ravers on tuesday the 27th or wednesday the 4th that would also be awesome. i'd happily return the favor by showing you about should you find yourself in seattle or thereabouts =3D) thanks in advance for any tips... kim http://www.to-evolve.com * \[-_-]\/[-_-]/ >>--- NORTHEAST RAVES://hyperreal.org/raves/ne/ -----> Web-based sub/unsub: hyperreal.org/raves/ne/subscription/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org >>--- NORTHEAST RAVES://hyperreal.org/raves/ne/ -----> Web-based sub/unsub: hyperreal.org/raves/ne/subscription/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org From ne-raves-return-3797-ne-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 19 00:11:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ne-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25742 invoked by uid 1046); 19 May 2008 00:11:39 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25695 invoked from network); 19 May 2008 00:11:36 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:MIME-Version:Date:Subject:From:Reply-To:To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=WovZhwO4gZHfdNbSDovKzyOqb+JIWw9dRUFHBqeMB0kyQvCbBSd2CjWqnKEJ5tW6v/XLuDHtgS2XbNWV/X9NnZ9pZF8E9hIOrzE1H4ygZd5OxK++kYG67gxHty20yaZmd9YB47g+SiwtjOAzyzJjvaTfzNOreYlyrtGdi8kK80I= ; X-YMail-OSG: CoybCWEVM1lJYTdeRZFCgFXy37CNXJ06_VJo1Wfl9yws7krDG.AP0ezLEVDB35Z6bDuYOouXoQAPVH2qOxzglMYdxtnVkYdn1YO.LOCZNtzVQ1r6X2Tt.V3TTOWioJWf_wz_IwKPrc9j1m8OwBpKkB4- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 17:11:34 -0700 From: "Dougie Fresh" Reply-To: "Dougie Fresh" To: ,"groovinkim" Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [ne-raves] Re:[ne-raves] nyc visitor begs for aid B5E-1D8 Check out rhythmism.com for a calendar of events within the city. Hopefully= it suits you. Enjoy nyc!=20 ---------- Sent from the Cingular network using Mobile Email ------Original Message------ From: groovinkim To: Date: Fri, May 16, 2008 05:11 PM Subject: [ne-raves] nyc visitor begs for aid 'lo all! i'm kimberley. i've been occasionally on and off this list over the years. i live in seattle and do the http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/nw page & http://www.nwtekno.org. i'm here to question you 'cause i'm making a rare visit to nyc next week. i've been there all of once and saw very little, so this'll be my first real visit of any length. actually it's mostly coincidental; i'm going to mutek and i couldn't afford to fly to montreal directly, but i discovered that rt to nyc & then taking the train to montreal from there was much more affordable. but i loved what little i saw of nyc previously and am v. excited. i arrive saturday the 24th and will be about 'til wednesday the 28th when i head to montreal. i return on wednesday june 4 and can seek fun that night too. i love many kinds of thumping, bleeping & squelching electronic music, particularly bleepy minimal techno, house in all its forms, dubstep, idm. hiphop too. i was hoping to check out the m83 shows but they sold out too quickly :/ other random things i am fond of: street art/graffiti, film that makes you say wtf, tea, anywhere with wifi, biking, dance dance revolution, burning man, thrift stores, hula hooping. when i travel i prefer avoiding tourist crap and hanging out where locals go. any tips on events i might enjoy (musical or otherwise) or good sites to check out for information would be much appreciated =3D] if anyone has couchspace for a few old ravers on tuesday the 27th or wednesday the 4th that would also be awesome. i'd happily return the favor by showing you about should you find yourself in seattle or thereabouts =3D) thanks in advance for any tips... kim http://www.to-evolve.com * \[-_-]\/[-_-]/ >>--- NORTHEAST RAVES://hyperreal.org/raves/ne/ -----> Web-based sub/unsub: hyperreal.org/raves/ne/subscription/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org >>--- NORTHEAST RAVES://hyperreal.org/raves/ne/ -----> Web-based sub/unsub: hyperreal.org/raves/ne/subscription/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org From ne-raves-return-3798-ne-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 20 18:42:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ne-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 96562 invoked by uid 1046); 20 May 2008 18:42:30 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 96487 invoked from network); 20 May 2008 18:42:27 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=5EhRpQvtSEzVYnFKvcLH4fExQWJRniOZxEsKc2qouXw=; b=H2WKYYADGKU9kuOg60uYgM/fzm7W262x/Llj0ftWRFFbzQ756ScPuEziwZzITxURYii9cAvOTNrP79uu02ieDYQAxc5ACTizUmUqXJAvN/Y2jg0xXXSxgXP4LaunhZ7OkQWtrnSR1isAcsxvo7pXNHsdOHf5c3LYSdBiA16Aoag= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=UVCb7DyNNoCwWSEk+n8aaaDHkIyQAUC7rJVZrePR8UqY+6QxZMnVcNHzybAvCt8RIe1aSrlvrssSpCWTwTsOf7RxrLzTXWxIe6J1cIAmDhKtYGKfthbUnOyPOr5F2bDa/1lL2r6AowbSFnhPCl0pnuWSXy07ySl1H6YsuZiJQQo= Message-ID: <84c4d1400805201142j21703e73lf64a6eaa1bb9e99d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 14:42:26 -0400 From: "Ed Hoc" To: "ne-raves@hyperreal.org" , "WHUS List" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [ne-raves] no movement http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/observermusic/2008/04/the_last_great_youth_revolutio.html -- Please note: This e-mail was sent from a notification-only address that cannot accept incoming e-mail. Please do not reply to this message. ---- pete lastname meatsock@gmail.com www.grep-fu.net >>--- NORTHEAST RAVES://hyperreal.org/raves/ne/ -----> Web-based sub/unsub: hyperreal.org/raves/ne/subscription/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org From ne-raves-return-3799-ne-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 21 13:18:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ne-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 80652 invoked by uid 1046); 21 May 2008 13:18:34 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 80575 invoked from network); 21 May 2008 13:18:30 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: WVxUqBEVM1lB3Mtz8TKM0aNUgPD8P8tVusUHvG.ScwPGSBXpI2MTwkmL6VjzFF_e35pcw7y4U59UV0H90J9BCM8N9K9xZM2.HBH.O56i7n7xZG1UXAzj7skepHc- Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 06:18:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Ralph Warren To: Ed Hoc , "ne-raves@hyperreal.org" In-Reply-To: <84c4d1400805201142j21703e73lf64a6eaa1bb9e99d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1373131865-1211375911=:76095" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <476873.76095.qm@web705.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [ne-raves] thanks Re: [ne-raves] no movement --0-1373131865-1211375911=:76095 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Well thanks Ed - it seems like a good little article to prompt some discussion - awhile ago you accused me of being somewhat naive and idealistic when raising some of the issues talked about in that article. I just glanced at it and am testing my shift to seeing if I can post from my new email account for this list - the other one I had was on such a crappy mailserver that had some other people's domains on it that brought the whole thing into a permanent state of being banned for spamming - Anyways I hope to get a few more emails posted to the list today and reply to Kim. If she did not get my previous email - hey look for some from this account - this is who you think it is that was a Seattle raver rabble rouser. The article is nice and short and I saw it did point to an obvious fact that the current banquet of communication choices (email, tv, cell-phones, video on cell phones, IM on cell-phones, you name it) fragments the base for a new youth movement. And like I've said on here - creates a new poverty of thought. So I am not naive by any means - I'm still a stubborn hard headed and hardened person who has the same purpose I did when I got involved with rave culture in 1993. I have only become more hard headed and less idealistic than I used to be. I don't really think the old outward styles and formulas of 15 years ago are the important thing. Electronic music remains though something that brings the future into our present. Lots more to say bout that... peace out peoples... Ralph/kairos Ed Hoc wrote: http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/observermusic/2008/04/the_last_great_youth_revolutio.html -- Please note: This e-mail was sent from a notification-only address that cannot accept incoming e-mail. Please do not reply to this message. ---- pete lastname meatsock@gmail.com www.grep-fu.net >>--- NORTHEAST RAVES://hyperreal.org/raves/ne/ -----> Web-based sub/unsub: hyperreal.org/raves/ne/subscription/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org --0-1373131865-1211375911=:76095-- From ne-raves-return-3800-ne-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 21 13:43:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ne-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12689 invoked by uid 1046); 21 May 2008 13:43:39 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12443 invoked from network); 21 May 2008 13:43:29 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=rp5J/fV/YiuQwaxCPAuvVpOAmrTiCZUk0SgDKlg5uIQ=; b=iCjZQUUBdKD44lpuNaFw5yvtkSeOw8dafIRggN8KNJ76YNMWxSsdBp/qaudeOdAtqt2oPIF2vt2sQYlmW0iCSBsne0vSpkMy4cw9TCElUd+9yoBODxjcyYDur7kZXBzm5ebc7EcIibyfvsXxqanTcj5BxVqatcK66UEleNzuZWQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=fJm/hACqMS0se6m2gTClhGK3gcOskI0laPMDit5/Vf87Zb/bJkgTAl30jzlRv9/+fld7Z9W9orC3Hb+448oxq3nbiYf9DpF9bdQQaomqc0qMWS57lXyPkN+5JyftXETAhiAk9nSpx2EcVHkYPzb7pSP6B6GAITLUQWe5YVNdf6Q= Message-ID: <48342716.7030804@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 09:43:50 -0400 From: Dean J User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ralph Warren CC: Ed Hoc , "ne-raves@hyperreal.org" References: <476873.76095.qm@web705.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <476873.76095.qm@web705.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] thanks Re: [ne-raves] no movement Ralph Warren wrote: > The article is nice and short and I saw it did point to an obvious fact that the current banquet of communication choices (email, tv, cell-phones, video on cell phones, IM on cell-phones, you name it) fragments the base for a new youth movement. And like I've said on here - creates a new poverty of thought. > > So I am not naive by any means - I'm still a stubborn hard headed and hardened person who has the same purpose I did when I got involved with rave culture in 1993. I have only become more hard headed and less idealistic than I used to be. I don't really think the old outward styles and formulas of 15 years ago are the important thing. Electronic music remains though something that brings the future into our present. Lots more to say bout that... > peace out peoples... > Ralph/kairos > As far as underground gestation periods go, might I point at Burningman? It doesn't have any particular genre of music associated with it, but damned if it isn't a strong underground movement with roots in every city in America at this point... >>--- NORTHEAST RAVES://hyperreal.org/raves/ne/ -----> Web-based sub/unsub: hyperreal.org/raves/ne/subscription/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org From ne-raves-return-3801-ne-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 21 14:14:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ne-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 48541 invoked by uid 1046); 21 May 2008 14:14:22 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 48452 invoked from network); 21 May 2008 14:14:17 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=x6A6eHOOmn9xj+Kla9HD1YsmdeUIV8SxIieZfEcwY9k=; b=sfUXyrtMGEEGFVzQcrbx25/CnxEUDBTr653Ke8srU5an6q7WgjQ6keXff/n+X/2+VOWLEFbmTYbInwlrG9q5RaHEpeeLkjZP/xRAE8n7dgyI9jlRiO4e089jm0Sadj9dvLmSVqFcQ7P5YA/aFwNQVe6UqsxVeh6IKn7sgjzV7ns= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=T3QjOWH1cAVtyjVSx6cRrMTCMsU9GGLqASGJtbfABLgun/o0VXtuLrEXDg2reyMaxXBuJgIIXZTE3V8Gq+dQsWI5f1YOxoErk6PUIokzodeMrlv+NYHvgIkhDMIGFU8qa0lERyd83C/LCwyP5bpQd6abPMJZ4YlqOvQKJF32oQ8= Message-ID: <63b87f4d0805210714m5712396fj7db1b2d6a92bbd2a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 10:14:17 -0400 From: "The Work It Circuit" To: "Dean J" Cc: "Ralph Warren" , "Ed Hoc" , "ne-raves@hyperreal.org" In-Reply-To: <48342716.7030804@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_5975_30601357.1211379258077" References: <476873.76095.qm@web705.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <48342716.7030804@gmail.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] thanks Re: [ne-raves] no movement ------=_Part_5975_30601357.1211379258077 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I'd venture to say that with the ease of information exchange today that revolutionary chages are a thing of the past and we're now in a period of evolution. Small changes sweep the world in a short period of time, there's no longer a build up of creativity that needs to reach catastrophic levels before it's reached the level of being worth the effort of spreading. Today a new shift can easily be spread and assimilated in a short period of time. On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 9:43 AM, Dean J wrote: > Ralph Warren wrote: > >> The article is nice and short and I saw it did point to an obvious fact >> that the current banquet of communication choices (email, tv, cell-phones, >> video on cell phones, IM on cell-phones, you name it) fragments the base for >> a new youth movement. And like I've said on here - creates a new poverty of >> thought. >> >> So I am not naive by any means - I'm still a stubborn hard headed and >> hardened person who has the same purpose I did when I got involved with rave >> culture in 1993. I have only become more hard headed and less idealistic >> than I used to be. I don't really think the old outward styles and formulas >> of 15 years ago are the important thing. Electronic music remains though >> something that brings the future into our present. Lots more to say bout >> that... >> peace out peoples... >> Ralph/kairos >> >> > As far as underground gestation periods go, might I point at Burningman? > It doesn't have any particular genre of music associated with it, but > damned if it isn't a strong underground movement with roots in every city in > America at this point... > > > --- NORTHEAST RAVES://hyperreal.org/raves/ne/ -----> >>> >> Web-based sub/unsub: hyperreal.org/raves/ne/subscription/ > To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org > > -- KeNNy! AIM: Munkeybuttt Yahoo Mess: Jungleboogiemonster http://ghetto.hjsoft.com ------=_Part_5975_30601357.1211379258077-- From ne-raves-return-3802-ne-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 21 17:04:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ne-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 60440 invoked by uid 1046); 21 May 2008 17:04:03 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 60356 invoked from network); 21 May 2008 17:03:59 -0000 Message-ID: <20080521125539.m8k7jt4wmcgksg44@webmail.acidgrave.com> Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 12:55:39 -0400 From: lowkey@acidgrave.com To: ne-raves@hyperreal.org References: <476873.76095.qm@web705.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <48342716.7030804@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <48342716.7030804@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.3) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] thanks Re: [ne-raves] no movement Quoting Dean J : > As far as underground gestation periods go, might I point at > Burningman? It doesn't have any particular genre of music associated > with it, but damned if it isn't a strong underground movement with > roots in every city in America at this point... I think Burning Man long outgrew being an "underground" thing about a decade ago. If anything, it really has morphed into a reflection of our society in general involving consumption and entertainment. Regardless, I think the author of this article just doesn't get it, and is no longer there. The biggest contributor to what he considers lack of any revolutionary movement is the fact that, what he looked at as a guide and map of the movement, has been completely decentralized as a result of the internet. That, in itself, is the new youth rebellion. It was a giant middle finger to all manipulative entities, whether major or minor, that made their bread and butter off of promoting and distributing music. Now you have "net labels" that give music away for free often. As of recently, this activity has become a sore spot for label owners and established "underground" artists. Just last week, I was getting into it with Dave The Drummer who basically said that artists giving away their music for free "undermine everyone else's hard work by doing so." The not-so-old in years, but old in mentality, guard have missed the new revolution and, upon spotting it, consider it something that is unfair to them. To make music now, you don't even need to consider the desires or politics of any labels, distributors or promoters. You can make exactly what you want, host it on your own server for as little as as $5-$10 a month with 1000s of gigs of bandwidth, and throw it out there for anyone who cares to hear. Creativity, at this point, is almost completely free and unleashed, as there are no longer any bullshit gate-keepers looking at their income who can prevent you from exploring or creating what you personally want to do. But, as a result, it's completely decentralized and, thus, if one is looking for an easy jump off point to map, they likely just won't see one and think nothing is happening. I'm entirely cool with that. In the process of doing techno music long enough, I've dealt with no shortage of turds and scumbags who I don't want in the picture involving my work at all. And thanks to this decentralized shift that happened years ago which has only grown, that is something I've been able to do. This article didn't complain about a lack of a movement as much as it did confuse the lack of a noticable tangible "scene" as proof that no such movement had occurred since what they thought they were a part of. Good riddance to such folk. Let them continue to cheerlead for their icons. -- Low-Key [DeTocs, Septik Nexus] http://www.septiknexus.com http://www.myspace.com/lowkey75 >>--- NORTHEAST RAVES://hyperreal.org/raves/ne/ -----> Web-based sub/unsub: hyperreal.org/raves/ne/subscription/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org From ne-raves-return-3803-ne-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 21 17:56:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ne-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15596 invoked by uid 1046); 21 May 2008 17:56:06 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15436 invoked from network); 21 May 2008 17:56:02 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:cc:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=LOrucTRNLxce7qjwaZG1wN8GXMeAJ8yiK0DfY4M6EHw=; b=dbQlMGCwGlFRfLJD9CyR8JoPYXa+SJVuMNce+R7qKnjQOVaNN9+0/oae46H+jhauwzwNhAZVgdXWybrVZMWFxiLWvN5vdbq35kDxLNFKEL7LIpFPBdSSJLbjhOBVUvo4rSXTEcLEtV4OJVGcm+2kHxX+7ICZg94IS2YVFYpXPL4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=cc:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references:x-mailer; b=HFfXY1S/LnVfXEffZmFNH2ktgxF6Gz3fC489HFHC0MnJKpVYZ1DcPOO0LVvA/PaEcPXkB4C/kYyV322Mm0Kqxn4LbktmgUiKoFUHkCEdidZr05Ly6Hj35Wq6LWkEmjpADshwPh5Ji9LeI4aj359u4lpoa922zKXPU4dhU051OsI= Cc: ne-raves@hyperreal.org Message-Id: <4F5F8389-FC35-4430-B7BB-CD96944E18A0@gmail.com> From: Joshua Weber To: lowkey@acidgrave.com In-Reply-To: <20080521125539.m8k7jt4wmcgksg44@webmail.acidgrave.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 13:55:47 -0400 References: <476873.76095.qm@web705.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <48342716.7030804@gmail.com> <20080521125539.m8k7jt4wmcgksg44@webmail.acidgrave.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] thanks Re: [ne-raves] no movement I have to agree with Lowkey here. The author just seems to be pining for a specific point in time. More so than a lack of any (fictional or other) movement. And while, perhaps, the rave scene in the US had, and continues to have, a very different feel from the UK version, I would still qualify it as a revolution. I also believe that it is the inspiration for the current evolution in music today. Communication via the internet, as opposed to telephone calls and flyers, not only served as a means of advertising events, but it fostered a community who completely progressed the idea of DIY to whole new levels. Decentralised (thanks Lowkey) is a great word for it. The author, assumably, seems to be either missing, or ignoring, this. The one thing I will *slightly* agree with is that there is a downsizing of what we know as the rave scene. I honestly don't know if that is just an evolution to something else, a population shift towards another scene, or just the dying of an era. It wouldn't be unforeseen or unprecedented. Flappers, Swing, Doo-Wop, Hippies, Disco, Hair Metal, Grunge, Rave... What's next? -Josh On May 21, 2008, at 12:55 PM, lowkey@acidgrave.com wrote: > Quoting Dean J : > >> As far as underground gestation periods go, might I point at >> Burningman? It doesn't have any particular genre of music >> associated with it, but damned if it isn't a strong underground >> movement with roots in every city in America at this point... > > I think Burning Man long outgrew being an "underground" thing about > a decade > ago. If anything, it really has morphed into a reflection of our > society in > general involving consumption and entertainment. > > Regardless, I think the author of this article just doesn't get it, > and is no > longer there. The biggest contributor to what he considers lack of > any > revolutionary movement is the fact that, what he looked at as a > guide and map > of the movement, has been completely decentralized as a result of > the internet. > That, in itself, is the new youth rebellion. It was a giant middle > finger to > all manipulative entities, whether major or minor, that made their > bread and > butter off of promoting and distributing music. Now you have "net > labels" that > give music away for free often. As of recently, this activity has > become a sore > spot for label owners and established "underground" artists. Just > last week, I > was getting into it with Dave The Drummer who basically said that > artists > giving away their music for free "undermine everyone else's hard > work by doing > so." > > The not-so-old in years, but old in mentality, guard have missed the > new > revolution and, upon spotting it, consider it something that is > unfair to them. > To make music now, you don't even need to consider the desires or > politics of > any labels, distributors or promoters. You can make exactly what > you want, > host it on your own server for as little as as $5-$10 a month with > 1000s of > gigs of bandwidth, and throw it out there for anyone who cares to > hear. Creativity, at this point, is almost completely free and > unleashed, as there > are no longer any bullshit gate-keepers looking at their income who > can prevent > you from exploring or creating what you personally want to do. But, > as a > result, it's completely decentralized and, thus, if one is looking > for an easy > jump off point to map, they likely just won't see one and think > nothing is > happening. I'm entirely cool with that. In the process of doing > techno music > long enough, I've dealt with no shortage of turds and scumbags who I > don't want > in the picture involving my work at all. And thanks to this > decentralized shift > that happened years ago which has only grown, that is something I've > been able > to do. This article didn't complain about a lack of a movement as > much as it > did confuse the lack of a noticable tangible "scene" as proof that > no such > movement had occurred since what they thought they were a part of. > Good > riddance to such folk. Let them continue to cheerlead for their icons. > > -- > Low-Key [DeTocs, Septik Nexus] > http://www.septiknexus.com > http://www.myspace.com/lowkey75 > > >>> --- NORTHEAST RAVES://hyperreal.org/raves/ne/ -----> > Web-based sub/unsub: hyperreal.org/raves/ne/subscription/ > To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org > >>--- NORTHEAST RAVES://hyperreal.org/raves/ne/ -----> Web-based sub/unsub: hyperreal.org/raves/ne/subscription/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org From ne-raves-return-3804-ne-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 21 18:10:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ne-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 32472 invoked by uid 1046); 21 May 2008 18:10:19 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 32420 invoked from network); 21 May 2008 18:10:17 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=6Nhv4CklowzA0k7wZMXjdgxjixJ6vbU3ktKFpumqk64=; b=vDXIru3axLsUaat8HZwikMbvOilHkQizK8xi2J4zrDJ2GCtt3RYiPIy2Jb1GqSJ6OdKZaBwp441Akt74ZfVfjUVYq4EqgUKLhmCqwn5a6Sa5p7MFriV8JPhBvqemYmJmW8C2iTuHZb2UhIjCn4+giGGxLsHOALyHZ1p2nHUckWY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=oi9ELoAM8ZT7Il9bvU9wJ5XAHTKcy9t5RBcNuQEh4RO9Eyb7wvMO+uM774Zqbw7JGwikF6X3c0SDhWzvfbLuWxprSoGTHmbCfwSA8sSsHqAfKjwB6Lb1qA+q+9t6VaI2ukyBmlshPc2AYLByyduXEPVxnpCvkzLeEDLKjl2iA3s= Message-ID: <48346575.7030207@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 14:09:57 -0400 From: Dean J User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joshua Weber CC: lowkey@acidgrave.com, ne-raves@hyperreal.org References: <476873.76095.qm@web705.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <48342716.7030804@gmail.com> <20080521125539.m8k7jt4wmcgksg44@webmail.acidgrave.com> <4F5F8389-FC35-4430-B7BB-CD96944E18A0@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4F5F8389-FC35-4430-B7BB-CD96944E18A0@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] thanks Re: [ne-raves] no movement I don't think I'd put hair metal in there, but c'est la vie. I think "social movement" and "music scene" are getting tossed about arbitrarily in these, and I don't think the current movements are musical. -D Joshua Weber wrote: > I have to agree with Lowkey here. The author just seems to be pining > for a specific point in time. More so than a lack of any (fictional > or other) movement. And while, perhaps, the rave scene in the US had, > and continues to have, a very different feel from the UK version, I > would still qualify it as a revolution. I also believe that it is the > inspiration for the current evolution in music today. Communication > via the internet, as opposed to telephone calls and flyers, not only > served as a means of advertising events, but it fostered a community > who completely progressed the idea of DIY to whole new levels. > Decentralised (thanks Lowkey) is a great word for it. The author, > assumably, seems to be either missing, or ignoring, this. > > The one thing I will *slightly* agree with is that there is a > downsizing of what we know as the rave scene. I honestly don't know > if that is just an evolution to something else, a population shift > towards another scene, or just the dying of an era. It wouldn't be > unforeseen or unprecedented. Flappers, Swing, Doo-Wop, Hippies, > Disco, Hair Metal, Grunge, Rave... What's next? > > -Josh > > On May 21, 2008, at 12:55 PM, lowkey@acidgrave.com wrote: > >> Quoting Dean J : >> >>> As far as underground gestation periods go, might I point at >>> Burningman? It doesn't have any particular genre of music >>> associated with it, but damned if it isn't a strong underground >>> movement with roots in every city in America at this point... >> >> I think Burning Man long outgrew being an "underground" thing about a >> decade >> ago. If anything, it really has morphed into a reflection of our >> society in >> general involving consumption and entertainment. >> >> Regardless, I think the author of this article just doesn't get it, >> and is no >> longer there. The biggest contributor to what he considers lack of any >> revolutionary movement is the fact that, what he looked at as a guide >> and map >> of the movement, has been completely decentralized as a result of the >> internet. >> That, in itself, is the new youth rebellion. It was a giant middle >> finger to >> all manipulative entities, whether major or minor, that made their >> bread and >> butter off of promoting and distributing music. Now you have "net >> labels" that >> give music away for free often. As of recently, this activity has >> become a sore >> spot for label owners and established "underground" artists. Just >> last week, I >> was getting into it with Dave The Drummer who basically said that >> artists >> giving away their music for free "undermine everyone else's hard work >> by doing >> so." >> >> The not-so-old in years, but old in mentality, guard have missed the new >> revolution and, upon spotting it, consider it something that is >> unfair to them. >> To make music now, you don't even need to consider the desires or >> politics of >> any labels, distributors or promoters. You can make exactly what you >> want, >> host it on your own server for as little as as $5-$10 a month with >> 1000s of >> gigs of bandwidth, and throw it out there for anyone who cares to >> hear. Creativity, at this point, is almost completely free and >> unleashed, as there >> are no longer any bullshit gate-keepers looking at their income who >> can prevent >> you from exploring or creating what you personally want to do. But, >> as a >> result, it's completely decentralized and, thus, if one is looking >> for an easy >> jump off point to map, they likely just won't see one and think >> nothing is >> happening. I'm entirely cool with that. In the process of doing >> techno music >> long enough, I've dealt with no shortage of turds and scumbags who I >> don't want >> in the picture involving my work at all. And thanks to this >> decentralized shift >> that happened years ago which has only grown, that is something I've >> been able >> to do. This article didn't complain about a lack of a movement as >> much as it >> did confuse the lack of a noticable tangible "scene" as proof that no >> such >> movement had occurred since what they thought they were a part of. Good >> riddance to such folk. Let them continue to cheerlead for their icons. >> >> -- >> Low-Key [DeTocs, Septik Nexus] >> http://www.septiknexus.com >> http://www.myspace.com/lowkey75 >> >> >>>> --- NORTHEAST RAVES://hyperreal.org/raves/ne/ -----> >> Web-based sub/unsub: hyperreal.org/raves/ne/subscription/ >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org >> > > >>> --- NORTHEAST RAVES://hyperreal.org/raves/ne/ -----> > Web-based sub/unsub: hyperreal.org/raves/ne/subscription/ > To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org > >>--- NORTHEAST RAVES://hyperreal.org/raves/ne/ -----> Web-based sub/unsub: hyperreal.org/raves/ne/subscription/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org From ne-raves-return-3805-ne-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 21 18:32:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ne-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 56354 invoked by uid 1046); 21 May 2008 18:32:43 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 55849 invoked from network); 21 May 2008 18:32:34 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:cc:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=81DYGwtcYLsKl2gRk+yJLyeIKc/S5D0KuZkMq1FKgYE=; b=Sv721d63U2k9h54g/GLDjofl+cQp5twOrw02Zn2X6CFXs4K8q8UeXX8SNqTD7BfcIdMCn1FKhN2fQTdTdXie11/9MNE6xFPimZENkE4HG52wWY8ZCmWX7yGyMThsP1PlZrfqt/W3aV1E073a2ygAyjsQF2FdY0Mzhqu8ATWcPPA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=cc:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject:date:references:x-mailer; b=dxuokEXGiY5rTOfTkLp8uFN1MyYnJ3rAaNBIWQEYImfyHtKJ1FOFi0lzYHAE5AlOhnLi+nGdIRfJVwnXqSGfszXyDe9fjHc9CeDCUJZ9RzLEgKM+nqDBNgT6GYfYT8Cp/QnhOTLyy1YXsHCwImSumxBQbx8ddzcGbrZ+MbMmDvk= Cc: ne-raves@hyperreal.org Message-Id: <456ED915-DA6F-4F45-82C7-FF060BC8380F@gmail.com> From: Joshua Weber To: ashtaerman@yahoo.com In-Reply-To: <685492.80220.qm@web51604.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-28--988165896 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 14:32:31 -0400 References: <685492.80220.qm@web51604.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] thanks Re: [ne-raves] no movement --Apple-Mail-28--988165896 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Check the history of NE-Raves (and all the other mailing lists) on hyperreal. I think you'll be surprised about how early email and the internet became a significant part of the rave scene. -Josh On May 21, 2008, at 2:29 PM, Alex Shtaerman wrote: > I didn't follow the whole debate here but I just will interject > breifly > > > I think the rave scene in the US is/was definitely a revolution -- > but it was stamped out by the government and bad publicity over > drugs etc... I think unfortunately "music history" will not look > back on it the way it should... > > > As far as the internet being used as a tool for promotion --- that > really wasn't until later -- originally it was flyers and info lines > and a network of "in the know" retail outlets/shops that fostered > the scene in the Northeast -- so the internet, I agree is very > important but I don't think ravers embraced the internet that much > more than anyone else did until later on > > > I think the UK, Spain, even Germany and that whole general "big", > "mainstream" European rave movement is kinda corny, at least to me, > because it comes from a different mentallity than the US movement > came from --- here we were more subverted, there was racial tension > here, we have guns in the US, it's a whole different deal --- so I > think here it was more like Eastern Europe as far as the sound and > feeling in the music --- I don't know, I could be wrong but that's > my opinion. Generally speaking I always liked Eastern European > techno and that whole vibe more, I always felt it was more like NYC > as opposed to Western Europe, Ibiza and all that crap... > > > > --- On Wed, 5/21/08, Dean J wrote: > From: Dean J > Subject: Re: [ne-raves] thanks Re: [ne-raves] no movement > To: "Joshua Weber" > Cc: lowkey@acidgrave.com, ne-raves@hyperreal.org > Date: Wednesday, May 21, 2008, 2:09 PM > > I don't think I'd put hair metal in there, but c'est la vie. > > I think "social movement" and "music scene" are getting > tossed about > arbitrarily in these, and I don't think the current movements are > musical. > > -D > > Joshua Weber wrote: > > I have to agree with Lowkey here. The author just seems to be > pining > > for a specific point in time. More so than a lack of any (fictional > > or other) movement. And while, perhaps, the rave scene in the US > had, > > and continues to have, a very different feel from the UK version, I > > would still qualify it as a revolution. I also believe that it is > the > > inspiration for the current evolution in music today. Communication > > via the internet, as opposed to telephone calls and flyers, not only > > served as a means of advertising events, but it fostered a community > > who completely progressed the idea of DIY to whole new levels. > > Decentralised (thanks Lowkey) is a great word for it. The author, > > assumably, seems to be either missing, or ignoring, this. > > > > The one thing I will *slightly* agree with is that there is a > > downsizing of what we know as the rave scene. I honestly don't know > > if that is just an evolution to something else, a population shift > > towards another scene, or just the dying of an era. It wouldn't be > > unforeseen or unprecedented. Flappers, Swing, Doo-Wop, Hippies, > > Disco, Hair Metal, Grunge, Rave... What's next? > > > > -Josh > > > > On May 21, 2008, at 12:55 PM, lowkey@acidgrave.com wrote: > > > >> Quoting Dean J : > >> > >>> As far as underground gestation periods go, might I point at > >>> Burningman? It doesn't have any particular genre of music > >>> associated with it, but damned if it isn't a strong > underground > >>> movement with roots in every city in America at this point... > >> > >> I think Burning Man long outgrew being an "underground" > thing about a > >> decade > >> ago. If anything, it really has morphed into a reflection of our > >> society in > >> general involving consumption and entertainment. > >> > >> Regardless, I think the author of this article just doesn't get > it, > >> and is no > >> longer there. The biggest contributor to what he considers lack of > any > >> revolutionary movement is the fact that, what he looked at as a > guide > >> and map > >> of the movement, has been completely decentralized as a result of > the > >> internet. > >> That, in itself, is the new youth rebellion. It was a giant middle > >> finger to > >> all manipulative entities, whether major or minor, that made their > >> bread and > >> butter off of promoting and distributing music. Now you have > "net > >> labels" that > >> give music away for free often. As of recently, this activity has > >> become a sore > >> spot for label owners and established "underground" artists. > Just > >> last week, I > >> was getting into it with Dave The Drummer who basically said that > >> artists > >> giving away their music for free "undermine everyone else's > hard work > >> by doing > >> so." > >> > >> The not-so-old in years, but old in mentality, guard have missed > the > new > >> revolution and, upon spotting it, consider it something that is > >> unfair to them. > >> To make music now, you don't even need to consider the desires or > >> politics of > >> any labels, distributors or promoters. You can make exactly what > you > >> want, > >> host it on your own server for as little as as $5-$10 a month with > >> 1000s of > >> gigs of bandwidth, and throw it out there for anyone who cares to > >> hear. Creativity, at this point, is almost completely free and > >> unleashed, as there > >> are no longer any bullshit gate-keepers looking at their income who > >> can prevent > >> you from exploring or creating what you personally want to do. > But, > >> as a > >> result, it's completely decentralized and, thus, if one is looking > > >> for an easy > >> jump off point to map, they likely just won't see one and think > >> nothing is > >> happening. I'm entirely cool with that. In the process of doing > >> techno music > >> long enough, I've dealt with no shortage of turds and scumbags who > I > >> don't want > >> in the picture involving my work at all. And thanks to this > >> decentralized shift > >> that happened years ago which has only grown, that is something > I've > >> been able > >> to do. This article didn't complain about a lack of a movement as > > >> much as it > >> did confuse the lack of a noticable tangible "scene" as > proof that no > >> such > >> movement had occurred since what they thought they were a part of. > Good > >> riddance to such folk. Let them continue to cheerlead for their > icons. > >> > >> -- > >> Low-Key [DeTocs, Septik Nexus] > >> http://www.septiknexus.com > >> http://www.myspace.com/lowkey75 > >> > >> > >>>> --- NORTHEAST RAVES://hyperreal.org/raves/ne/ -----> > >> Web-based sub/unsub: hyperreal.org/raves/ne/subscription/ > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org > >> > > > > > >>> --- NORTHEAST RAVES://hyperreal.org/raves/ne/ -----> > > Web-based sub/unsub: hyperreal.org/raves/ne/subscription/ > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > >>--- NORTHEAST RAVES://hyperreal.org/raves/ne/ -----> > Web-based sub/unsub: hyperreal.org/raves/ne/subscription/ > To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org > --Apple-Mail-28--988165896-- From ne-raves-return-3806-ne-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 21 18:35:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ne-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 59347 invoked by uid 1046); 21 May 2008 18:35:14 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 59254 invoked from network); 21 May 2008 18:35:12 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:cc:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=Gsh8c6Ki14/Ds9XxvH2cY38J+oxOPJ3A+GTyapiY73o=; b=ONx32Gzrup0uRLV49nsLsN2Z62MEc1UmPeTrRzh4HPKUIy5kCTWnN7GFmbAf4SLIT5JksMn59hPW5gcMOhYddMyNluhtx86cHjVzAfkK0kX8ya73PoMLiGYCK1JuAHP4bj9+1zuhh8E0l9nVCz8mu1ggGUMFMezDXUK60Eg1bQQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=cc:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references:x-mailer; b=kv2Eex9qlriY/gu5zJyaw0SvbNroqWaDFSXGn/0yOWyHDqj68+qBYmvW1/w31DO3C8J2WwZLdjc5ekKpLLg7T+Y/D37m0mvBKmodpa7z6OxpcxS/f2JzdkaE7urqxkK2fqW32yOQ43k9FdSgj4uCEv3FDJl4VduChaTz2V79fEQ= Cc: ne-raves@hyperreal.org Message-Id: <0035D7D4-7D92-44EF-A4E0-5415516BF49A@gmail.com> From: Joshua Weber To: Dean J In-Reply-To: <48346575.7030207@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 14:35:04 -0400 References: <476873.76095.qm@web705.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <48342716.7030804@gmail.com> <20080521125539.m8k7jt4wmcgksg44@webmail.acidgrave.com> <4F5F8389-FC35-4430-B7BB-CD96944E18A0@gmail.com> <48346575.7030207@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] thanks Re: [ne-raves] no movement Fine, perhaps hair metal didn't belong - I just picked one from the 80's - but I would say that, aside from Hippies (I blanked on what to call the music from that period), very few music scenes were true social movements that actually had an effect on the world. And it's entirely fair to include rave in that group. -Josh On May 21, 2008, at 2:09 PM, Dean J wrote: > I don't think I'd put hair metal in there, but c'est la vie. > > I think "social movement" and "music scene" are getting tossed about > arbitrarily in these, and I don't think the current movements are > musical. > > -D > > Joshua Weber wrote: >> I have to agree with Lowkey here. The author just seems to be >> pining for a specific point in time. More so than a lack of any >> (fictional or other) movement. And while, perhaps, the rave scene >> in the US had, and continues to have, a very different feel from >> the UK version, I would still qualify it as a revolution. I also >> believe that it is the inspiration for the current evolution in >> music today. Communication via the internet, as opposed to >> telephone calls and flyers, not only served as a means of >> advertising events, but it fostered a community who completely >> progressed the idea of DIY to whole new levels. Decentralised >> (thanks Lowkey) is a great word for it. The author, assumably, >> seems to be either missing, or ignoring, this. >> >> The one thing I will *slightly* agree with is that there is a >> downsizing of what we know as the rave scene. I honestly don't >> know if that is just an evolution to something else, a population >> shift towards another scene, or just the dying of an era. It >> wouldn't be unforeseen or unprecedented. Flappers, Swing, Doo-Wop, >> Hippies, Disco, Hair Metal, Grunge, Rave... What's next? >> >> -Josh >> >> On May 21, 2008, at 12:55 PM, lowkey@acidgrave.com wrote: >> >>> Quoting Dean J : >>> >>>> As far as underground gestation periods go, might I point at >>>> Burningman? It doesn't have any particular genre of music >>>> associated with it, but damned if it isn't a strong underground >>>> movement with roots in every city in America at this point... >>> >>> I think Burning Man long outgrew being an "underground" thing >>> about a decade >>> ago. If anything, it really has morphed into a reflection of our >>> society in >>> general involving consumption and entertainment. >>> >>> Regardless, I think the author of this article just doesn't get >>> it, and is no >>> longer there. The biggest contributor to what he considers lack >>> of any >>> revolutionary movement is the fact that, what he looked at as a >>> guide and map >>> of the movement, has been completely decentralized as a result of >>> the internet. >>> That, in itself, is the new youth rebellion. It was a giant >>> middle finger to >>> all manipulative entities, whether major or minor, that made their >>> bread and >>> butter off of promoting and distributing music. Now you have "net >>> labels" that >>> give music away for free often. As of recently, this activity has >>> become a sore >>> spot for label owners and established "underground" artists. Just >>> last week, I >>> was getting into it with Dave The Drummer who basically said that >>> artists >>> giving away their music for free "undermine everyone else's hard >>> work by doing >>> so." >>> >>> The not-so-old in years, but old in mentality, guard have missed >>> the new >>> revolution and, upon spotting it, consider it something that is >>> unfair to them. >>> To make music now, you don't even need to consider the desires or >>> politics of >>> any labels, distributors or promoters. You can make exactly what >>> you want, >>> host it on your own server for as little as as $5-$10 a month with >>> 1000s of >>> gigs of bandwidth, and throw it out there for anyone who cares to >>> hear. Creativity, at this point, is almost completely free and >>> unleashed, as there >>> are no longer any bullshit gate-keepers looking at their income >>> who can prevent >>> you from exploring or creating what you personally want to do. >>> But, as a >>> result, it's completely decentralized and, thus, if one is looking >>> for an easy >>> jump off point to map, they likely just won't see one and think >>> nothing is >>> happening. I'm entirely cool with that. In the process of doing >>> techno music >>> long enough, I've dealt with no shortage of turds and scumbags who >>> I don't want >>> in the picture involving my work at all. And thanks to this >>> decentralized shift >>> that happened years ago which has only grown, that is something >>> I've been able >>> to do. This article didn't complain about a lack of a movement as >>> much as it >>> did confuse the lack of a noticable tangible "scene" as proof that >>> no such >>> movement had occurred since what they thought they were a part >>> of. Good >>> riddance to such folk. Let them continue to cheerlead for their >>> icons. >>> >>> -- >>> Low-Key [DeTocs, Septik Nexus] >>> http://www.septiknexus.com >>> http://www.myspace.com/lowkey75 >>> >>> >>>>> --- NORTHEAST RAVES://hyperreal.org/raves/ne/ -----> >>> Web-based sub/unsub: hyperreal.org/raves/ne/subscription/ >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org >>> >> >> >>>> --- NORTHEAST RAVES://hyperreal.org/raves/ne/ -----> >> Web-based sub/unsub: hyperreal.org/raves/ne/subscription/ >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org >> > >>--- NORTHEAST RAVES://hyperreal.org/raves/ne/ -----> Web-based sub/unsub: hyperreal.org/raves/ne/subscription/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org From ne-raves-return-3807-ne-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 21 18:56:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ne-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 87230 invoked by uid 1046); 21 May 2008 18:56:32 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 87176 invoked from network); 21 May 2008 18:56:29 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=FGqEHnz/ffPrY5AfIpZtWKsX1d5EzSdTfMWYTvehzFw=; b=mw+4mIWxcaF3v5EClgMN80SOYXpsTL6sK+Pa2FLhoc21w3UPmbl2D4HL4UElnt/NwC27lL8MPcZoUyfw6RSq641WQ0+Juy+7bmY93Vhurhyz4eW4rWXltub8Wu1WjIUXNe5qlqe1fMqe5pZ6Mau1Eq1lEmNhGEQ5YVNxAjQ8Gqo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=jiziRVxBYnOsRXqtFv4SddHTp7DhIigShGIhQVNX0z8E5PyP/8rHqFKjiuXkeTSGeVhQFghNSLX7XHA+yk6VCYyTwWeSu8UBSNJVcnUatGqjX97aTQHwKSUFkEJ6n9TbSOAUGBD1rwghc2u2tnTdwTzyB6TrqOvt5CN55K/RGvA= Message-ID: <48347044.9090006@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 14:56:04 -0400 From: Dean J User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joshua Weber CC: ne-raves@hyperreal.org References: <476873.76095.qm@web705.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <48342716.7030804@gmail.com> <20080521125539.m8k7jt4wmcgksg44@webmail.acidgrave.com> <4F5F8389-FC35-4430-B7BB-CD96944E18A0@gmail.com> <48346575.7030207@gmail.com> <0035D7D4-7D92-44EF-A4E0-5415516BF49A@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <0035D7D4-7D92-44EF-A4E0-5415516BF49A@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] thanks Re: [ne-raves] no movement Punk rock, hip hop definitely had some effect. I'm just wondering if social movements will separate from music again; the late 60's seems to be the first time they were solidly intertwined, and that era might be done for. Joshua Weber wrote: > Fine, perhaps hair metal didn't belong - I just picked one from the > 80's - but I would say that, aside from Hippies (I blanked on what to > call the music from that period), very few music scenes were true > social movements that actually had an effect on the world. And it's > entirely fair to include rave in that group. > > -Josh > > On May 21, 2008, at 2:09 PM, Dean J wrote: > >> I don't think I'd put hair metal in there, but c'est la vie. >> >> I think "social movement" and "music scene" are getting tossed about >> arbitrarily in these, and I don't think the current movements are >> musical. >> >> -D >> >> Joshua Weber wrote: >>> I have to agree with Lowkey here. The author just seems to be >>> pining for a specific point in time. More so than a lack of any >>> (fictional or other) movement. And while, perhaps, the rave scene >>> in the US had, and continues to have, a very different feel from the >>> UK version, I would still qualify it as a revolution. I also >>> believe that it is the inspiration for the current evolution in >>> music today. Communication via the internet, as opposed to >>> telephone calls and flyers, not only served as a means of >>> advertising events, but it fostered a community who completely >>> progressed the idea of DIY to whole new levels. Decentralised >>> (thanks Lowkey) is a great word for it. The author, assumably, >>> seems to be either missing, or ignoring, this. >>> >>> The one thing I will *slightly* agree with is that there is a >>> downsizing of what we know as the rave scene. I honestly don't know >>> if that is just an evolution to something else, a population shift >>> towards another scene, or just the dying of an era. It wouldn't be >>> unforeseen or unprecedented. Flappers, Swing, Doo-Wop, Hippies, >>> Disco, Hair Metal, Grunge, Rave... What's next? >>> >>> -Josh >>> >>> On May 21, 2008, at 12:55 PM, lowkey@acidgrave.com wrote: >>> >>>> Quoting Dean J : >>>> >>>>> As far as underground gestation periods go, might I point at >>>>> Burningman? It doesn't have any particular genre of music >>>>> associated with it, but damned if it isn't a strong underground >>>>> movement with roots in every city in America at this point... >>>> >>>> I think Burning Man long outgrew being an "underground" thing about >>>> a decade >>>> ago. If anything, it really has morphed into a reflection of our >>>> society in >>>> general involving consumption and entertainment. >>>> >>>> Regardless, I think the author of this article just doesn't get it, >>>> and is no >>>> longer there. The biggest contributor to what he considers lack of >>>> any >>>> revolutionary movement is the fact that, what he looked at as a >>>> guide and map >>>> of the movement, has been completely decentralized as a result of >>>> the internet. >>>> That, in itself, is the new youth rebellion. It was a giant middle >>>> finger to >>>> all manipulative entities, whether major or minor, that made their >>>> bread and >>>> butter off of promoting and distributing music. Now you have "net >>>> labels" that >>>> give music away for free often. As of recently, this activity has >>>> become a sore >>>> spot for label owners and established "underground" artists. Just >>>> last week, I >>>> was getting into it with Dave The Drummer who basically said that >>>> artists >>>> giving away their music for free "undermine everyone else's hard >>>> work by doing >>>> so." >>>> >>>> The not-so-old in years, but old in mentality, guard have missed >>>> the new >>>> revolution and, upon spotting it, consider it something that is >>>> unfair to them. >>>> To make music now, you don't even need to consider the desires or >>>> politics of >>>> any labels, distributors or promoters. You can make exactly what >>>> you want, >>>> host it on your own server for as little as as $5-$10 a month with >>>> 1000s of >>>> gigs of bandwidth, and throw it out there for anyone who cares to >>>> hear. Creativity, at this point, is almost completely free and >>>> unleashed, as there >>>> are no longer any bullshit gate-keepers looking at their income who >>>> can prevent >>>> you from exploring or creating what you personally want to do. >>>> But, as a >>>> result, it's completely decentralized and, thus, if one is looking >>>> for an easy >>>> jump off point to map, they likely just won't see one and think >>>> nothing is >>>> happening. I'm entirely cool with that. In the process of doing >>>> techno music >>>> long enough, I've dealt with no shortage of turds and scumbags who >>>> I don't want >>>> in the picture involving my work at all. And thanks to this >>>> decentralized shift >>>> that happened years ago which has only grown, that is something >>>> I've been able >>>> to do. This article didn't complain about a lack of a movement as >>>> much as it >>>> did confuse the lack of a noticable tangible "scene" as proof that >>>> no such >>>> movement had occurred since what they thought they were a part of. >>>> Good >>>> riddance to such folk. Let them continue to cheerlead for their icons. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Low-Key [DeTocs, Septik Nexus] >>>> http://www.septiknexus.com >>>> http://www.myspace.com/lowkey75 >>>> >>>> >>>>>> --- NORTHEAST RAVES://hyperreal.org/raves/ne/ -----> >>>> Web-based sub/unsub: hyperreal.org/raves/ne/subscription/ >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org >>>> >>> >>> >>>>> --- NORTHEAST RAVES://hyperreal.org/raves/ne/ -----> >>> Web-based sub/unsub: hyperreal.org/raves/ne/subscription/ >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org >>> >> > >>--- NORTHEAST RAVES://hyperreal.org/raves/ne/ -----> Web-based sub/unsub: hyperreal.org/raves/ne/subscription/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org From ne-raves-return-3808-ne-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 21 18:58:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ne-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 90280 invoked by uid 1046); 21 May 2008 18:58:57 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 90242 invoked from network); 21 May 2008 18:58:56 -0000 Message-ID: <20080521145036.ly26lmzteass4sog@webmail.acidgrave.com> Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 14:50:36 -0400 From: lowkey@acidgrave.com To: ne-raves@hyperreal.org References: <476873.76095.qm@web705.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <48342716.7030804@gmail.com> <20080521125539.m8k7jt4wmcgksg44@webmail.acidgrave.com> <4F5F8389-FC35-4430-B7BB-CD96944E18A0@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4F5F8389-FC35-4430-B7BB-CD96944E18A0@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.3) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] thanks Re: [ne-raves] no movement Quoting Joshua Weber : > The one thing I will *slightly* agree with is that there is a > downsizing of what we know as the rave scene. I honestly don't know > if that is just an evolution to something else, a population shift > towards another scene, or just the dying of an era. It wouldn't be > unforeseen or unprecedented. Flappers, Swing, Doo-Wop, Hippies, > Disco, Hair Metal, Grunge, Rave... What's next? Or that scene has just become decentralized as well. I can't speak for everyone, but I know the main reason I went to the larger "raves" in many areas, particularly when I first got into it, was to hear new music I wouldn't otherwise hear and, if I liked it, find out more about who was playing it so that I could find something that was more geared towards the sound they were providing. Before the media boom of the internet, raves were the only place I would have access. However, fastforward not even a decade into the future, and broadband internet access had become affordable to consumers at home. Personal servers or webspace on the internet was cheap or "free" if you didn't mind ads on a page. Bandwidth for music distribution was there, as were the tools. Rather than going to a rave in order to find new music, all one has to do now is jump on shoutcast, soulseek, or myspace to find new music. What's great is that I've been exposed to more electronic music that I've loved through just these channels that I simply never would have heard at any of the local "raves" around here, as there are politics and gatekeepers involved in those raves which have very much made their sounds predictable. So, in that sense, they have made themselves obsolete in that, through exploration just by net resources, I can find new sounds I like, in addition to finding where those sounds are then being played. Thus, I don't have to drop $25-$50 on a door charge to be in, what is in all likelihood, a stale club environment playing a majority of music I don't really care for. The instant anything gets dull or not fun, I can jump on the net and find something else. This, in my opinion, is why the rave scene seems to have been downsized. It's because, while 10 years ago you'd often find someone like myself at a number of the larger parties, you won't today because I don't need them. Thus, physically, it's just become more spread out. Though, if anything, it's grown. It's just not united which I am fine with. It makes it much more dificult for the egos of a few to dictate what goes down in an entire region. -- Low-Key [DeTocs, Septik Nexus] http://www.septiknexus.com http://www.myspace.com/lowkey75 >>--- NORTHEAST RAVES://hyperreal.org/raves/ne/ -----> Web-based sub/unsub: hyperreal.org/raves/ne/subscription/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org From ne-raves-return-3809-ne-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 21 19:02:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ne-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 95066 invoked by uid 1046); 21 May 2008 19:02:44 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 95028 invoked from network); 21 May 2008 19:02:43 -0000 Message-ID: <20080521145422.v25ieakys0ow8kgg@webmail.acidgrave.com> Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 14:54:22 -0400 From: lowkey@acidgrave.com To: ne-raves@hyperreal.org References: <685492.80220.qm@web51604.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <685492.80220.qm@web51604.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.3) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] thanks Re: [ne-raves] no movement Quoting Alex Shtaerman : > As far as the internet being used as a tool for promotion --- that > really wasn't until later -- originally it was flyers and info lines > and a network of "in the know" retail outlets/shops that fostered the > scene in the Northeast -- so the internet, I agree is very important > but I don't think ravers embraced the internet that much more than > anyone else did until later on Actually, I've been on this list since 1995, Alex. Hell, I even had flyers from before that time that listed dial-up bulletin board systems in their infoline sections. Computers have been part of it from practically the very beginning here. -- Low-Key [DeTocs, Septik Nexus] http://www.septiknexus.com http://www.myspace.com/lowkey75 >>--- NORTHEAST RAVES://hyperreal.org/raves/ne/ -----> Web-based sub/unsub: hyperreal.org/raves/ne/subscription/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org From ne-raves-return-3810-ne-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 21 19:28:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ne-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 33431 invoked by uid 1046); 21 May 2008 19:28:20 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 33303 invoked from network); 21 May 2008 19:28:12 -0000 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.766 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.766 tagged_above=-10 required=6.6 tests=[AWL=-2.419, BAYES_20=-0.74, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MISSING_HEADERS=1.292, RDNS_NONE=0.1] Message-ID: <483477C2.4090508@skooch.com> Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 15:28:02 -0400 From: Eric User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: ne-raves@hyperreal.org References: <685492.80220.qm@web51604.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20080521145422.v25ieakys0ow8kgg@webmail.acidgrave.com> In-Reply-To: <20080521145422.v25ieakys0ow8kgg@webmail.acidgrave.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------060504030209070907000404" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] thanks Re: [ne-raves] no movement --------------060504030209070907000404 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've been on this list since 1995 as well. Not the entire time but I started in about 1995. However until not too long ago the bandwidth wasn't there to support large amounts of music online. However I don't think that has much of anything to do with it. This article is about the British Summer of Love in 1987, which was apparently as momentous occasion over there as our summer of love was here in 1967. I wasn't there so I can't really make any comments about it, but I do have similar feelings about the raves here in the early- to mid-90s. To paraphrase Hunter Thompson we felt like you were on the crest of a big unstoppable wave and then it broke and rolled back. I don't know if the scene changed or if I just changed. At the time I was in college, was able to stay up all night and party. When I graduated and got a full time job all of that went out the window. Now being married with a kid forget about it. 10pm is a late night for me. Here is the Thompson quote, one of my favorite things ever written. Change a few words and it can probably apply to any generation and any time: "Strange memories on this nervous night in Las Vegas. Five years later? Six? It seems like a lifetime, or at least a Main Era---the kind of peak that never comes again. San Francisco in the middle sixties was a very special time and place to be a part of. Maybe it /meant something/. Maybe not, in the long run . . . but no explanation, no mix of words or music or memories can touch that sense of knowing that you were there and alive in that corner of time and the world. Whatever it meant. . . . History is hard to know, because of all the hired bullshit, but even without being sure of "history" it seems entirely reasonable to think that every now and then the energy of a whole generation comes to a head in a long fine flash, for reasons that nobody really understands at the time---and which never explain, in retrospect, what actually happened.... There was madness in any direction, at any hour. If not across the Bay then up the Golden Gate or down 101 to Los Altos or La Honda. . . . You could strike sparks anywhere. There was a fantastic universal sense that whatever we were doing was /right/, that we were winning. . . . And that, I think, was the handle---that sense of inevitable victory over the forces of Old and Evil. Not in any mean or military sense; we didn't need that. Our energy would simply /prevail/. There was no point in fighting---on our side or theirs. We had all the momentum; we were riding the crest of a high and beautiful wave. . . . So now, less than five years later, you can go up on a steep hill in Las Vegas and look West, and with the right kind of eyes you can almost /see/ the high-water mark---that place where the wave finally broke and rolled back." lowkey@acidgrave.com wrote: > Quoting Alex Shtaerman : > >> As far as the internet being used as a tool for promotion --- that >> really wasn't until later -- originally it was flyers and info lines >> and a network of "in the know" retail outlets/shops that fostered the >> scene in the Northeast -- so the internet, I agree is very important >> but I don't think ravers embraced the internet that much more than >> anyone else did until later on > > Actually, I've been on this list since 1995, Alex. Hell, I even had > flyers from > before that time that listed dial-up bulletin board systems in their > infoline > sections. Computers have been part of it from practically the very > beginning > here. > --------------060504030209070907000404-- From ne-raves-return-3811-ne-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 21 19:34:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ne-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 40311 invoked by uid 1046); 21 May 2008 19:34:12 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 40233 invoked from network); 21 May 2008 19:34:10 -0000 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_2280dd5e-4d70-4dd4-aaa7-3690d296436a_" X-Originating-IP: [74.78.184.218] From: nunyah biznezz To: Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 15:34:09 -0400 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 May 2008 19:34:09.0584 (UTC) FILETIME=[A3EEEB00:01C8BB79] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [ne-raves] test --_2280dd5e-4d70-4dd4-aaa7-3690d296436a_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable sorry.TEST _________________________________________________________________ E-mail for the greater good. Join the i=92m Initiative from Microsoft. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Join/Default.aspx?source=3DEML_WL_ GreaterG= ood= --_2280dd5e-4d70-4dd4-aaa7-3690d296436a_-- From ne-raves-return-3812-ne-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 21 20:14:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ne-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 90859 invoked by uid 1046); 21 May 2008 20:14:03 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 90805 invoked from network); 21 May 2008 20:14:01 -0000 Message-ID: <20080521160540.el59x32iv400oogw@webmail.acidgrave.com> Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 16:05:40 -0400 From: lowkey@acidgrave.com To: ne-raves@hyperreal.org References: <685492.80220.qm@web51604.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20080521145422.v25ieakys0ow8kgg@webmail.acidgrave.com> <483477C2.4090508@skooch.com> In-Reply-To: <483477C2.4090508@skooch.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.3) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] thanks Re: [ne-raves] no movement Quoting Eric : > I've been on this list since 1995 as well. Not the entire time but I > started in about 1995. However until not too long ago the bandwidth > wasn't there to support large amounts of music online. However I > don't think that has much of anything to do with it. > > This article is about the British Summer of Love in 1987, which was > apparently as momentous occasion over there as our summer of love was > here in 1967. I wasn't there so I can't really make any comments > about it, but I do have similar feelings about the raves here in the > early- to mid-90s. To paraphrase Hunter Thompson we felt like you > were on the crest of a big unstoppable wave and then it broke and > rolled back. > > I don't know if the scene changed or if I just changed. At the time I > was in college, was able to stay up all night and party. When I > graduated and got a full time job all of that went out the window. > Now being married with a kid forget about it. 10pm is a late night > for me. Both have changed most likely. The "scene" has certainly changed greatly. The author may have been talking about the "Summer of Love," but this was tied in with the idea of music revolution. Thus, I think it all comes down to perspective. The only wave that broke and rolled back for "raves," in the north-east at least, was that thousands of people would turn out to do drugs all night to techno. But, as for the "revolution" or "movement," it simply moved past the confines of a physical "scene." It is now global on a DIY level. Something that was simply not achievable during the summer of love, and something that a number of relatively established producers/DJs (in the sense that they made a living from it) now resent. The author of this article is clearly going to be more connected to that camp. Basically, the same old cult of personality bullshit that comes up in the entertainment scene is even less powerful than it ever was before. Techno idols are pretty much a joke at this point if they act like dicks, particularly those who are their sycophants. The big raves, the ownership of small labels with the ability to get tracks licensed on major labels, the cozy relationships with promoters, etc. were all very much fought over and taken advantage by people who wanted to have the control in order to sustain their own importance and longevity. For a number, it's worked great in that they've survived long enough to see the wave that hasn't rolled back, but has overrun most of them and is only getting bigger. The ability for one to DJ their own music live without having to go through a label for a pressing, to distribute it to others to do the same over the net for nothing, to build a DIY direct info source for all with mutual interests in sounds without hiring a marketting firm, etc. has absolutely turned the music industry, especially the snotty indy music industry (including techno) on it's head. So many of the technology that enables this has been developed, or hacked, by youths. Napster and Soulseek are great examples. Bit torrent? Hardly a geezer that created that. The guy who made it is the same age as me. Hell, how old was the owner of hyperreal.org when he developed Apache? Look at the huge number of PHP script message boards that are all coded, and modified, by people from their teens through their twenties. I love that quote from Fear and Loathing too, but don't think it applies here. This wave hasn't even begun to crest because there are just too many people involved, not connected with each other in any physical way, that continue to adjust with advancements in technology and take it in ways that was never even really intended. And the beauty of it is, unlike some older youth movements that simply died when people stopped showing up, the culture around this new movement is free of any location or true popularity issues. You can start projects with people all around the world now and aren't limited by physical location. And because of that, if one is looking for something tied to a physical location, they won't see what is happening here. The "rave scene" may be dead with nothing popping up like it again physically since. But, that was a "scene" more than a movement. Those who actually viewed it as a culture and a movement are still doing things in line with the ideals regardless of whether or not there's a massive happening in their backyard, because most of it had to do with a love of technology, communication and the means of enabling all to take advantage of it. >>--- NORTHEAST RAVES://hyperreal.org/raves/ne/ -----> Web-based sub/unsub: hyperreal.org/raves/ne/subscription/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org From ne-raves-return-3813-ne-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 21 20:21:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ne-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 99791 invoked by uid 1046); 21 May 2008 20:21:55 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 99623 invoked from network); 21 May 2008 20:21:47 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:cc:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=nfiMnUuqQLxpTkD/ROWwfk4mF+vRBsL6FUqoXuGJl5w=; b=JPRB6l6SRpLc7YeSDJUgMikQs0nHFFhcG35jtH8GUSzoWKNjCMZpDgAnIekFu4sFAvtuPYx1HNLvMK6y0uUWbrdxo1i6iwZJoLoeECpK/llSCEX0ZbRMEJNNamB0cMhAKVXuvGD8dID0A+E4yQarIt/vvkyuwLowdkMfeX8cbWo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=cc:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references:x-mailer; b=TGmOsF988HkDmfg/OOUFzvGGsxEK7pwdz21tZvw4g6hQm34CM3nyklMsmSiPbJ60SCzzO7iGhw8+P4H0swob4r6MtmGOc0BXZStDb5Kvy7fAgyuhAx6A3zA7N4QnogsGqmCvd6ynu7bSD1mTk2Vc7atpI+HGiCCJN5OYtTNfuWI= Cc: ne-raves@hyperreal.org Message-Id: <1A3983FE-1C2F-48DD-A4C0-3D3C5E225624@gmail.com> From: Joshua Weber To: Eric In-Reply-To: <483477C2.4090508@skooch.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 16:21:45 -0400 References: <685492.80220.qm@web51604.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20080521145422.v25ieakys0ow8kgg@webmail.acidgrave.com> <483477C2.4090508@skooch.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] thanks Re: [ne-raves] no movement /me raises hand - '96, here. -Josh On May 21, 2008, at 3:28 PM, Eric wrote: > I've been on this list since 1995 as well. Not the entire time but I > started in about 1995. However until not too long ago the bandwidth > wasn't there to support large amounts of music online. However I > don't think that has much of anything to do with it. >>--- NORTHEAST RAVES://hyperreal.org/raves/ne/ -----> Web-based sub/unsub: hyperreal.org/raves/ne/subscription/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org From ne-raves-return-3814-ne-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 21 21:34:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ne-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 72517 invoked by uid 1046); 21 May 2008 21:34:17 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 72486 invoked from network); 21 May 2008 21:34:15 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=odyK1nPfxYuBoYc8KhrO2QxOzbTKV5E6WvjIaZsSxfs=; b=pErrrDRNe/h+JqHFbL9NGauW013YdTwJ0VaCyXroMEn9RsyW98G2MRoR6TCntQ+VvTPUUfDit3kPtt6BJd5iOKBJCcCv2v/iTmQpgBGLVlc6ktPUwhqzN6KV9flTv9+yihwMpGigRmeJucCczcLGX9Y+gVmDlkP1ERcyGdEAlp0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=SmreBcpDn9eh8r30WWbO3IhjvQCDnNimMH5Q6wiqOwTcXSLua3TO+Nv/PxOy1Nz8teQMlvCtFvabad0wayVspiMJzjRhUoZn2I7Fxj+mwnH1zVaX0kPUylfGy3WL1HefKmGp282vY1eBP8hRwL90anvCBKaM4X/BfbuD6r37Dlo= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 17:34:17 -0400 From: "Galen Guerrero-Murphy" To: "Joshua Weber" Cc: Eric , ne-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <1A3983FE-1C2F-48DD-A4C0-3D3C5E225624@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <685492.80220.qm@web51604.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20080521145422.v25ieakys0ow8kgg@webmail.acidgrave.com> <483477C2.4090508@skooch.com> <1A3983FE-1C2F-48DD-A4C0-3D3C5E225624@gmail.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] thanks Re: [ne-raves] no movement whatever it is/was/continues to evolve, the bonds (and defense) we all have to it are surely demonstrated in the massive amount of replies to this thread. the movement for the individual who connects is everlasting. even if bed time is 10pm. it's interesting how a-political the culture is, and yet the music seems to continually reflect (and dialectically create) the present feel. of what exactly, if not politics? releases of organic frustration, fear, happiness, chaos, order that ebb and flow through societies and into others and back, such that it is refined (simplified?) to the point of a shared experience (or shared interpretations). i wonder, based on a previous comment about being able to experience the diversity of the music by logging online, that perhaps the online globalization is simplifying the diversity? that localized sounds are too intertwined with the global? i suppose it can support hyperevolution, but could also make us monotonous. i think the scene is killing, right now, by the way. absolutely stunning. galen On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 4:21 PM, Joshua Weber wrote: > /me raises hand - '96, here. > > -Josh > > On May 21, 2008, at 3:28 PM, Eric wrote: > >> I've been on this list since 1995 as well. Not the entire time but I >> started in about 1995. However until not too long ago the bandwidth wasn't >> there to support large amounts of music online. However I don't think that >> has much of anything to do with it. > >>> --- NORTHEAST RAVES://hyperreal.org/raves/ne/ -----> > > Web-based sub/unsub: hyperreal.org/raves/ne/subscription/ > To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org > > >>--- NORTHEAST RAVES://hyperreal.org/raves/ne/ -----> Web-based sub/unsub: hyperreal.org/raves/ne/subscription/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org From ne-raves-return-3815-ne-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 22 03:34:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ne-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 81058 invoked by uid 1046); 22 May 2008 03:34:28 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 81025 invoked from network); 22 May 2008 03:34:27 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=wy47w/lcc31OeNm8/k+Y2gE5G01n35ybtllitb18YdM=; b=hAcp2Xc8jJO3svqCP3u6ZoRIM/ivlnL1FnIRLkBBYhx0Sctsu1B1Hplai76NnVBDxpVx9ZG6c8Htsl1SU5qR1BarG+al3WY+kzBjA0ZuSvVR+AnVOCSgW36t6hPR/u2slx2qeu9bmZFbZQ5/q/BnFEsyBgnpGl40ofiwk1HQd1I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=TLiZpQ3CWIHI9HkjnhYFDMBgHSaGSSxS9IYkHT9NsJnuFGDuiSNVEHV1uEA3/GyxNvIk9HrOfrv8452fTc4Fh4MB85reOyOZp7Tj4ZvQEMuM+cFj1qpIEtTMqothU1k2NHPjq7D3oWleeN1lT2Q/Y/nGRYBuvfxtyY7B6nF0jG0= Message-ID: <84c4d1400805212034m275f822fn9734516064c3ded5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 23:34:28 -0400 From: "Ed Hoc" To: "Galen Guerrero-Murphy" Cc: "Joshua Weber" , Eric , ne-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <685492.80220.qm@web51604.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20080521145422.v25ieakys0ow8kgg@webmail.acidgrave.com> <483477C2.4090508@skooch.com> <1A3983FE-1C2F-48DD-A4C0-3D3C5E225624@gmail.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] thanks Re: [ne-raves] no movement WARNING: by saying 'online globilization' you implicitly link it with the industrial globalization and what not, but the application of internet technology is mostly a way of connecting people to eachother. 'too intertwined'? what? how can two concepts have a surplus of synthesis? your comments about 'hyperevolution' implies you think it can change pace above or below the pace it goes at, since the objects of measurement are designed. i agree about the scene, it's about to get better too. it always does because always new people try it for little or no reason other than fun. On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 5:34 PM, Galen Guerrero-Murphy wrote: > i wonder, based on a previous comment about being able to experience > the diversity of the music by logging online, that perhaps the online > globalization is simplifying the diversity? that localized sounds are > too intertwined with the global? i suppose it can support > hyperevolution, but could also make us monotonous. > > i think the scene is killing, right now, by the way. absolutely stunning. > > galen >>--- NORTHEAST RAVES://hyperreal.org/raves/ne/ -----> Web-based sub/unsub: hyperreal.org/raves/ne/subscription/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org From ne-raves-return-3816-ne-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 23 01:07:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ne-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 66777 invoked by uid 1046); 23 May 2008 01:07:36 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 66689 invoked from network); 23 May 2008 01:07:31 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: fggLHIsVM1lq4FnUF5vjNqxlFKr9gmu7dGMpTe1Bfuzb6NzgXwpd0dvXxcWNxJS2VKlfB.wEsq4XZLB5sYJqPyqpcuiR10G1X7.zczfDlpvmteET7S28PPqX6Mo- Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 18:07:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Ralph Warren To: replyhere@seattletechno.com, Kim , ne-raves@hyperreal.org, ralph@publicspaceforall.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1885894997-1211504851=:4138" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <821937.4138.qm@web704.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [ne-raves] kim visiting - my replies and hope we all connect --0-1885894997-1211504851=:4138 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Well I guess this one should get through this time - my original reply to Kim is below - and I'll just do a little updating now- the emerging discussion on here is welcome and I hope some of the people who have joined ne-raves in the past two or three years or so join the conversation. I recall from discussions on here in past few years newer people said something brief and dropped off or fely intimidated or out of place - I'm one of the old ones no doubt but we can only grow and evolve if all bring their experiences forward... With that in mind I would say it was hearing from Kim that spurred me to even bother to reply to Ed's post quite frankly - maybe I gave up on the list here. But seriously it is a gut true rock solid thing to say that - Kim of all the pople I know for the past 15 years has done more to keep rave culture alive - in its best senses. She started and run the electronic bulletin board in the northwest that has been a connecting force - and tirelessly done so much in small and large events and small and large ways - I hope she see this and some of you get a chance to spend time with her and share some experience - energy - perspective and good will... As for me I have honestly been rather distracted and pulled away from what I would like to do - which is stay connected to people and this culture and go out dancing once a week -- but I've only been out once since October and that was for May Day Blackkat event in the park - I had a great time and danced well and hard but too hard maybe. I had a common abdominal surgery back in Feb, and for the past two weeks have some serious nerve pain related to the surgery - I may not be out for awhile - the odd thing is I have great muscle awareness and control - pretty much it only hurts to walk or run and I could still probably dance and fight in place if need be - but I might be really stupid to go dancing this weekend - I would still not pass up a time to hand with some of you if some of ya connect up with Kim - Ya know not all that long ago I joked with entropy you know who that I was a mutant and these days it seems more literally true and less funny - the good side is I probably have the positive husky dog mutation that allows we to dance all night without any need of any drug as long as there is other people around dancing as hard and the music is good - I'll post a reference later about this but seriously there was an article in the ny times about a study underway of sled dogs and how their metabolism shifts in remarkable ways on a run... I really like to run thats building in this other thread - so for know check out this book I have noted it on here - I first came across it in fact at Raver Books in Seattle in the late 90s when Kim helped run that store Altered State, Updated Edition: The Story of Ecstasy Culture and Acid House (A Five Star Title) (Paperback) by Matthew Collin (Author), John Godfrey (Author) "We were handed the capsules at about ten o'clock..." (more) So yes things come round in a new level of the spiral perhaps - east and west - the old and the new - I use a quote in some of my other sigs from a movie - it goes like this "the old ways will join the new" - it fits for struggle and evolution so let us begin... ------------------------------------------------ Hey Kim, This is from Ralph who you know well from my years living in Seattle. I saw this yesterday and just had a chance to reply today. Oddly enough I saw your post on nwtekno awhile after your post there. You may have missed my reply. I posted on Hugemassif about you coming to NYC and Steph who runs that board and others may be able to help you with a place to stay not too far away in NJ. I does not make sense for me to offer a place to crash as I live over two hours away from Manhattan on Long Island. Like I said I am very happy to hear you are coming to NYC and a few other people like Steph and others would certainly like to meet up with you. I will try sending an email from my other account on a different server because this email has sometimes been blocked. I'll check to see if this gets through and email you tomorrow. I suggested on Huge a meetup for dinner or going to some event when you are in town. One of the best email lists to get on in nyc is the Gemini and Scorpio list - you are sure to enjoy most of what they give a heads up on - I know what you like so I'll look out for events and post them on here - things have been quiet on here here is the way to subscribe to the email and it comes out once a week - the website is not up to date http://www.geminiandscorpio.com/events_list.html Yes I really can't say how good it would be to see you and I seriously do miss many people in Seattle - NYC is fun to visit no doubt - but something has been lost here - anyways there is lots to say and who know this could spur a little blip of life on this list too so write me back at this address or the other in the cc Ralph/kairos Quoting groovinkim : [Hide Quoted Text] 'lo all! i'm kimberley. i've been occasionally on and off this list over the years. i live in seattle and do the http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/nw page & http://www.nwtekno.org. i'm here to question you 'cause i'm making a rare visit to nyc next week. i've been there all of once and saw very little, so this'll be my first real visit of any length. actually it's mostly coincidental; i'm going to mutek and i couldn't afford to fly to montreal directly, but i discovered that rt to nyc & then taking the train to montreal from there was much more affordable. but i loved what little i saw of nyc previously and am v. excited. i arrive saturday the 24th and will be about 'til wednesday the 28th when i head to montreal. i return on wednesday june 4 and can seek fun that night too. i love many kinds of thumping, bleeping & squelching electronic music, particularly bleepy minimal techno, house in all its forms, dubstep, idm. hiphop too. i was hoping to check out the m83 shows but they sold out too quickly :/ other random things i am fond of: street art/graffiti, film that makes you say wtf, tea, anywhere with wifi, biking, dance dance revolution, burning man, thrift stores, hula hooping. when i travel i prefer avoiding tourist crap and hanging out where locals go. any tips on events i might enjoy (musical or otherwise) or good sites to check out for information would be much appreciated =] if anyone has couchspace for a few old ravers on tuesday the 27th or wednesday the 4th that would also be awesome. i'd happily return the favor by showing you about should you find yourself in seattle or thereabouts =) thanks in advance for any tips... kim http://www.to-evolve.com * \[-_-]\/[-_-]/ --0-1885894997-1211504851=:4138-- From ne-raves-return-3817-ne-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 23 01:29:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ne-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 84489 invoked by uid 1046); 23 May 2008 01:29:51 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 84441 invoked from network); 23 May 2008 01:29:47 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: vng.SigVM1nef.ENNM1duB4Hzl3SX9aDMzKZprT_2WF8em0GecD.HsKzY1QliFNzsA-- Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 18:29:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Ralph Warren To: lowkey@acidgrave.com, ne-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <20080521160540.el59x32iv400oogw@webmail.acidgrave.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-628294628-1211506188=:18587" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <197159.18587.qm@web708.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] thanks Re: [ne-raves] no movement --0-628294628-1211506188=:18587 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hey John and all-- Umm pardon the typos and all on my last post - guess in my haste I posted too soon I need to either take the time or end up looking foolish - but at this point in the day to be honest I am a bit tired and in a bit of pain - There is certainly lots that worth reflecting on in the period that kicked off the scene in the early 90s and that whole transition from the bleak industrial hard edged music of late 80s to the utopian early 90s - buy I put it this way to say hey the so called rave scene emerged in a larger cultural ecology. I have a different slant on this perhaps but I look forward to what is ahead - what is coming next and in an odd way what is simply unfolding from the seeds that were planted in the early 90s - I would say that the rave scene is only a small slice of a larger transition - and I feel like we are quickly approaching a new transition point - this is not so esoteric really - of course some of you know I'd hint at 2012 and that whole rap of the the early rave culture writers and visonaries - but part of my recent hard headedness is to go back to the comforts of my scientific training that I completed prior to jumping into the rave movement. The transition underway is quite simply more a matter of math and physics and social physics and even though we don't connect those dots - its all part of this thread - the transition we are in with web technology is more than myspace and facebook and any form of social networks - its really quite a matter of the way "networks" are shaping just about any aspect of life now from the Internet to the economy to politics to medicine and much more. The unfortunate but quite predictable thing is that right now - the role of these deep structures of math/physics/sociology is more hidden and more forgotten in typical public talk and even on lists like this - I mean think back to 1993 - 1996 on here - the talk of technology and spirituality was common and taken for granted. Now its rather odd or attacked or simply dismissed. But maybe things are changing... peace Ralph/kairos lowkey@acidgrave.com wrote: Quoting Eric : > I've been on this list since 1995 as well. Not the entire time but I > started in about 1995. However until not too long ago the bandwidth > wasn't there to support large amounts of music online. However I > don't think that has much of anything to do with it. > > This article is about the British Summer of Love in 1987, which was > apparently as momentous occasion over there as our summer of love was > here in 1967. I wasn't there so I can't really make any comments > about it, but I do have similar feelings about the raves here in the > early- to mid-90s. To paraphrase Hunter Thompson we felt like you > were on the crest of a big unstoppable wave and then it broke and > rolled back. > > I don't know if the scene changed or if I just changed. At the time I > was in college, was able to stay up all night and party. When I > graduated and got a full time job all of that went out the window. > Now being married with a kid forget about it. 10pm is a late night > for me. Both have changed most likely. The "scene" has certainly changed greatly. The author may have been talking about the "Summer of Love," but this was tied in with the idea of music revolution. Thus, I think it all comes down to perspective. The only wave that broke and rolled back for "raves," in the north-east at least, was that thousands of people would turn out to do drugs all night to techno. But, as for the "revolution" or "movement," it simply moved past the confines of a physical "scene." It is now global on a DIY level. Something that was simply not achievable during the summer of love, and something that a number of relatively established producers/DJs (in the sense that they made a living from it) now resent. The author of this article is clearly going to be more connected to that camp. Basically, the same old cult of personality bullshit that comes up in the entertainment scene is even less powerful than it ever was before. Techno idols are pretty much a joke at this point if they act like dicks, particularly those who are their sycophants. The big raves, the ownership of small labels with the ability to get tracks licensed on major labels, the cozy relationships with promoters, etc. were all very much fought over and taken advantage by people who wanted to have the control in order to sustain their own importance and longevity. For a number, it's worked great in that they've survived long enough to see the wave that hasn't rolled back, but has overrun most of them and is only getting bigger. The ability for one to DJ their own music live without having to go through a label for a pressing, to distribute it to others to do the same over the net for nothing, to build a DIY direct info source for all with mutual interests in sounds without hiring a marketting firm, etc. has absolutely turned the music industry, especially the snotty indy music industry (including techno) on it's head. So many of the technology that enables this has been developed, or hacked, by youths. Napster and Soulseek are great examples. Bit torrent? Hardly a geezer that created that. The guy who made it is the same age as me. Hell, how old was the owner of hyperreal.org when he developed Apache? Look at the huge number of PHP script message boards that are all coded, and modified, by people from their teens through their twenties. I love that quote from Fear and Loathing too, but don't think it applies here. This wave hasn't even begun to crest because there are just too many people involved, not connected with each other in any physical way, that continue to adjust with advancements in technology and take it in ways that was never even really intended. And the beauty of it is, unlike some older youth movements that simply died when people stopped showing up, the culture around this new movement is free of any location or true popularity issues. You can start projects with people all around the world now and aren't limited by physical location. And because of that, if one is looking for something tied to a physical location, they won't see what is happening here. The "rave scene" may be dead with nothing popping up like it again physically since. But, that was a "scene" more than a movement. Those who actually viewed it as a culture and a movement are still doing things in line with the ideals regardless of whether or not there's a massive happening in their backyard, because most of it had to do with a love of technology, communication and the means of enabling all to take advantage of it. >>--- NORTHEAST RAVES://hyperreal.org/raves/ne/ -----> Web-based sub/unsub: hyperreal.org/raves/ne/subscription/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org --0-628294628-1211506188=:18587-- From ne-raves-return-3818-ne-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 23 07:33:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ne-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 45856 invoked by uid 1046); 23 May 2008 07:33:35 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 45488 invoked from network); 23 May 2008 07:33:31 -0000 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_a809a78e-ae95-49fe-944a-a507fcc1f9a9_" X-Originating-IP: [67.80.85.117] From: mr L To: , Gabber List Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 03:33:32 -0400 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 May 2008 07:33:32.0995 (UTC) FILETIME=[4DBE8130:01C8BCA7] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [ne-raves] BK BREAKZ @ DA WRECK ROOM --_a809a78e-ae95-49fe-944a-a507fcc1f9a9_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable BK BREAKZ @ DA WRECK ROOM JUMP OFF @NEW SPOT SATURDAY 06/07/08 =20 TUESDAYS AND SATURDAYS 10PM-4AM FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! =20 @THE WRECK ROOM 940 FLUSHING AVE BK =20 LIVE PA/DJ RESIDENT ROTATION =20 RUSH -- HIP HOP/SPECIAL TREATZ JEDI -- ELEKTRO/HIP HOP MOTO-- TECHNO/HOUSE BREAKZ DARKSTAR -- DUBSTEP/JUNGLE BIG EARS -- DUBSTEP/JUNGLE I-CUE -- JUNGLE ESHIN -- JUNGLE KRINJAH --JUNGLE AMOK -- ELEKTRO/TECHNO BREAKZ FOODSTAMPZ -- DUBSTEP XYLENE ---DUBSTEP FURY8 -- DUBSTEP SCINESIGN -- LIVE PA BAND !!! 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Kairos" To: ne-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <197697.81417.qm@web704.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [ne-raves] stuff to do in nyc - the Gemini-Scorpio list Ok trying again - this bounced a couple of times because too much was sent in the email. Here is the info from the Gemini and Scorpio email for this week. If you like sign up for it.Often there is more info on electronic music events but from checking other calenders it looks like anyways on that score in NYC this weekend. enjoy Ralph/kairos --------------------- Hello lovelies, Not much to add this week, other than see you at Swing House tomorrow! Though this is a wonderful piece of news: the party will be filmed for an upcoming documentary on NYC's antiquated cabaret laws. Dress your best & bring those dancing shoes! Please forward along to friends! If this has been forwarded to you: members- subscribe@geminiandscorpio.com to subscribe for weekly events list, exclusive party invites, giveaways and offers THEATER: The 3rd Annual Tiny Theater Festival http://www.ontological.com http://www.bricktheater.com/tiny Co-produced and presented by the Ontological and The Brick Theater,Tiny Theater includes theater, dance, object-theater and puppet-theater, all in under 10 minutes presented in a 6' x 6' x 6' box. Includes They Are Bad People by Gabe Maxson, A Portrait of J.B. written and directed by Jason Szalla, The Barber of Saskatoon Created by Jane Parrott and Rodrigo Cortes Guadarrama, 6-Speed New York New Futurists by Leah Winkler, and 5 Eduardinos by Eduardo Band. Plus The Alternative Lifestyle Fair by old-skool ArtStar Tom X. Chao. Co-curated by Brendan Regimbal, Shannon Sindelar and Michael Gardner. (Fri/Sat, St. Marks Ontological Theater, 131 E 10th St. @ 2nd Ave & The Brick, 575 Metropolitan Ave, W'burg, BK, 8pm, $15) PERFORMANCE/DANCE: CHAOS SEX MACHINA http://wowcafe.org/chaossexmachina www.myspace.com/locnlode A multi-media dance performance choreographed and produced by Amy Ouzoonian, featuring dancers: Erica Parker, Kaitlyn Tikkun and Amy Ouzoonian. Also featuring performances by Courtney Weber, The Mangina w/ Jonathan Ames, Lady C, Penny Pollak, and To the Hills Films. (Fri- Sun this weekend & next, 8pm, $15) FEST: Lower East Side Festival of the Arts http://www.theaterforthenewcity.net/les.htm Droves of independent artists, arts organizations, dance companies, filmmakers and various other art-loving kids will unite this weekend for the 13th Annual LES Festival of the Arts. This year's theme, "Art Into Action, Action Into Art" serves to represent the culturally diverse artistic movements that have spread like rapid fire through downtown New York, and will feature performances by The Wendy Osserman Dance Company, Penny Arcade, Jazz legend David Amram and new works by rising playwrights Barbara Kahn, Lissa Moira and Larry Myers. (Fri-Sun, block party on E10th & inside Theater For The New City, 155 First Ave, 6pm-1am, FREE) DJ/DANCING: Turntables on the Hudson http://www.turntablesonthehudson.com http://www.watertaxibeach.com http://www.nywatertaxi.com/commuters/east-river-line/ (schedule) Celebrating 10 Years of Music, Dance, Culture & GOOD TIMES with an all-star lineup of DJ's from the crew who been down with us since day 1... every Friday all Summer long featuring guests & sounds from ovet the years!! Friday, May 23rd from 8PM - 2AM: DJ's Busquelo (8 -10), Chris Annibell (10-11), Nickodemus & Mariano (11-1), Sabo (1-2) Nappy G (timbales/ MC), Christian Rogers (congas), Alex (bongos)& Amon (djembe & treats), Zeb (oud & guitar). Sunday, May 25th from 3PM - 2AM: DJ's Eddy Plenty (3 - 4), DRM (4 - 5), Raeo (5 - 6), Cato (6 - 7), Rich Medina (7 - 8), Sujinho (8 -9), The Pimps of Joytime LIVE (9 - 10), Smash (10 - 11), Jeannie Hopper (11 - 12), Nickodemus & Mariano (12 - 2). (Fri & Sun, Water Taxi Beach/Hunters Point stop on the Water Taxi, #2 Borden Avenue, LIC, Queens, $10, 21+) MULTIMEDIA/DANCE: Curious Fish http://www.chashama.org A New York premiere, with "Unspoken" by Vangeline Theater and "Curious Fish" by Katsura Kan and the Saltimbanques. (Sat/Sun, Chashama, 217 E 42nd St. btw. 2nd & 3rd Aves, 8pm, $20 /$15 students and seniors) DANCE/FEST: DanceAfrica 2008 http://bam.org/events/08AFRI/08AFRI.aspx Now in its 31st year, BAM's DanceAfrica festival is a Memorial Day weekend tradition in Brooklyn, packed with dance, music, art, and film events from Mother Africa and the Diaspora--plus the popular outdoor bazaar of African crafts, food, and fashion. In honor of the 125th Anniversary of the Brooklyn Bridge, DanceAfrica's artistic director Chuck Davis has named this year's festivities "Bridge to Cultural Rejuvenation & Enlightenment" and unites dance companies-- from The Gambia, Atlanta, Harlem, and Bed-Stuy--on BAM's Opera House stage. (thru Mon, BAM, 30 Lafayette Ave, BK, bazaar Sat-Mon, noon- dark, FREE, shows $20 - 45) EVENT: Brooklyn Bridge 125th Birthday Celebration http://www.brooklynbridgepark.org http://nycvisit.com/bb125/index.cfm http://www.visitbrooklyn.org Five-Day Celebration to Feature Special Bridge Lighting, Film Series, Concerts, Lectures, Bike Tour, Children's Readings and other Family- Friendly Cultural Events. (thru Mon, Brooklyn Bridge Park / Empire-Fulton Ferry State Park and other locations, FREE) MUSIC/DANCING: Hot Club of Cowtown http://www.hotclubofcowtown.com http://www.rodeobar.com the most globe-trotting, hard-swinging Western Swing trio on the planet. From early days busking for tips in San Diego's Balboa Park, the band has grown and developed into a formidable international sensation. The Hot Club's ever-growing presence on the international festival scene has grown with it's relentless touring over the years alongside the release of five critically acclaimed CDs released in USA, Japan and the UK. Today, after a two-year hiatus, the Hot Club of Cowtown has resumed touring and recording in anticipation of a forthcoming release in the Fall of 2008. (Sun & Mon, Rodeo Bar, 375 3rd Ave @ 27th St, 10pm, $?) Saturday BIKE: Annual Brooklyn Bridge Birthday Bike Ride http://www.cityreliquary.org This year celebrating 125 years since opening day May 24th, 1883. The bicycle ride will depart from the City Reliquary Museum and culminate on the Brooklyn anchorage of the Brooklyn Bridge. We will be met with Birthday cake, beverages, and a lively presentation of the bridge's illustrious history. (City Reliquary Museum, 370 Metropolitan Ave. near Havemeyer St, W'burg, BK, noon, FREE/$5 sug donation) DRINKS: Ginger-Lime Ale http://www.beertable.com An un-official release party for the brand new Harviestoun Ginger Lime Ale. We are huge fans of the other beers from the brewery and are very excited to tap this keg of springy deliciousness. Come whenever you like - with the weather permitting, the windows will be open. (Beer Table, 27 B 7th Ave bet 14th & 15th St, Park Slope,BK 3-5pm, FREE entry) PARTY: Surprise artist party celebration Band showcase, live percussion, DJs. THIS CELEBRATION WILL CONTINUE THROUGHOUT THE HOLIDAY WEEKEND. RSVP AFTER SATURDAY - 718 398 1141 (623 Bergen St bet Vanderbilt & Carlton, 10pm, FREE?) DJ/DANCING: Church http://www.musicislove.net/may25.html Join us as we transform love into the jungle of our choosing. not an arcane religious sect or last years biscuit, church is thriving here in the moment we live. drop down and enter an environment built to support an evolving and diverse community with a passion for the dance floor. A place where classic music you love meets sounds you have never heard in a context designed with your pleasure very much in mind. sundays in nyc have a new look. get involved. Residents DJs Haj and Mikio create an inspired intentional DJ-dance vibe gathering @Love. Deeply accentuated by strains of violin, Hannah Thiem turns up the emotive qualities. (LOVE, Macdougal St @ 8th St, 7pm-2am, $10) DRINKS/PARTICIPATORY: NYC Zombie Crawl http://www.nyczombiecrawl.com ay to scare all those McCarren Park sun-bathers (who will still be in tight black jeans) then by dressing up like a zombie in the middle of spring, imbibing some mid-day booze, and tromping through the neighborhood. The NYC Zombie Crawl is a predecessor to this fall's larger national event. Meet at Duff's early to get your face painted, start drinking shots, and then travel over to Passout Records where the MC Chris Show will entertain you. At 8:30 the zombies (now really walking like zombies from all their drinking) head to Supreme Trading. Be forewarned that there is a (most likely) well-worth it $12 slideshow - and other stuff - here in the back room but if your still on the no-cover route then you can rock out to tunes in the front and keep on drinkin'. [G&S note: concise writeup courtesy of FreeNYC--when will promoters learn to format their listings?] (Start at Duff's Bar, N 3rd and Kent, W'burg, BK, 4pm, FREE + buy drinks, 21+) ------------------------------------------------ And there is lots more - this is just an excerpt cause it bounced before so check it and sign up directly for their info each week - most likely next week there will be many more electronic music events that will get on their email list >>--- NORTHEAST RAVES://hyperreal.org/raves/ne/ -----> Web-based sub/unsub: hyperreal.org/raves/ne/subscription/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org From ne-raves-return-3820-ne-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 24 17:26:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ne-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 88438 invoked by uid 1046); 24 May 2008 17:26:37 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 88388 invoked from network); 24 May 2008 17:26:35 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: naG_5osVM1k7.pCoxzxq9CXQ2RUnYcDMWf2AjlDr7Oz9kWqUJQvq0s2sRo35W8uEK9wXxMdqDlXQJVlAbrmHcOi1Wsj8qYzRTkn5XbpbT_c8YI4FVBVGCuGedg8- Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 10:26:36 -0700 (PDT) From: "R. Kairos" To: ne-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <714269.12726.qm@web703.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [ne-raves] Battle in Seattle - the film - openning shots 2008 cultural revisioning Hmmm... Things get a bit curiouser Well yesterday I came across a blog link by accident to an opening of a commercial film on the protests against the WTO in Seattle in 1999. I lived there. I lived through it. I participated along with many others in a few different ways to create a new citizen media to cover the events at that time and to support the groups protesting the WTO. To me it was all something more like a social and spiritual movement and not so much a political protest. But it was many things to many people. I watched the trailer for this movie - in a few words I can say this - it profoundly disturbed me to see events that I lived through and participated in shaping getting a glossy Hollywood style presentation - I watched it with the sound off. Simply at that level and from that distance it was easier to see distortions of fact and the shaping of impressions. It was better to play the trailer without sound. Really though the whole many months experience of the before during and after of that fateful 3 day world conference can't be captured in any easy way. Before even reading much about the film or seeing it I'll say this - (1) the awe and suspension of what can only be called a collective mental force field of average people down town when people roamed freely before the police cleared the streets with tear gas pepper spray, batons and rubber bullets was about 20x a more powerful sense of freedom and knowledge than any rave experience I ever had (2) the wild attack of the police on average people in a whole neighborhood of Seattle on the second day changed forever my sense of what we live within. Never-the-less I don't consider myself a political person and focus on what people call politics less and less in the past two years. But I am profoundly disturbed to see something coming that may well further distort the direct experience of so many people at those events. This does fit in with a few of the comments on the previous thread - we seem to be moving into a period now where the will be lots of cultural battles over the meaning of the 1969 summer of love the 1989 kick off of the rave culture and the 1999 globalization protests in Seattle. Its about time in fact that these things should rise up to the surface... So here is link to the story the other day in the Seattle paper on the film opening - I make no comment on it or the film yet - only to raise this all on your radar -- 'Battle in Seattle' cast brings star power to SIFF opening galaCharlize Theron among those attending premiere By ATHIMA CHANSANCHAI P-I REPORTER Last updated May 23, 2008 3:04 p.m. PT http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/movies/364341_siff24.html I am curious if anyone else on here was there? peace Ralph/kairos >>--- NORTHEAST RAVES://hyperreal.org/raves/ne/ -----> Web-based sub/unsub: hyperreal.org/raves/ne/subscription/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org From ne-raves-return-3821-ne-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 24 18:48:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ne-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 63742 invoked by uid 1046); 24 May 2008 18:48:01 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 63662 invoked from network); 24 May 2008 18:47:56 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: EpQm4cEVM1l.jq8tPRGlt6368CiqzTxgPRTEc97c.cUMbZjU4fZyrYmyhKWXv2vP.NG2jdVjCMJSHputY7w5bll3.mNkdEVvAyT0zA-- Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 11:47:57 -0700 (PDT) From: "R. Kairos" To: ne-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <217046.75669.qm@web708.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [ne-raves] science of a connected age- social movements, music fads, much more Well rather than go into a detailed response to some of the posts from John (lowkey) and others from the thread on rave culture I'll just post a few bits of background information. The subject line starts off with the subtitle of a book- Six Degrees: The Science of a Connected Age by Duncan Watts published in 2003 It is well worth reading - it is by one of the leading people in network theory and although he has focused on social networks and mathematical models his work has an importance for just about any complex system in our current world. There are many sections that directly relate to the previous posts going back and forth between people here this past week. It relates very directly to how rave culture was suppressed although the author never raises that concern. This type of network theory (social physics) set up the groundwork for online social networks like myspace, facebook and others. He does deal directly with things like transmission of cultural innovations - cascades in networks. But I make it sound abstract - it is quite well written and has clear presentations of difficult ideas and data and some good cases and personal stories about his own path into this work. I'll write up some better replies and do it when I have time so my posts are less confused in out than the last couple ;) Ralph/kairos >>--- NORTHEAST RAVES://hyperreal.org/raves/ne/ -----> Web-based sub/unsub: hyperreal.org/raves/ne/subscription/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org From ne-raves-return-3822-ne-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 24 20:36:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ne-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 52509 invoked by uid 1046); 24 May 2008 20:36:34 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 52455 invoked from network); 24 May 2008 20:36:30 -0000 To: "r. kairos" , Cc: Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 20:36:35 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 From: "Jordan" Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_LDOK42SKDNTJB1SCH0XJ" Message-Id: <200805241636833.SM05892@[192.168.64.102]> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Battle in Seattle - the film - openning shots 2008 cultural revisioning --------------Boundary-00=_LDOK42SKDNTJB1SCH0XJ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_LDOKRWY8LA6B3KMT9C1I" --------------Boundary-00=_LDOKRWY8LA6B3KMT9C1I Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable saw the film at siff. yeah, its glossed over. townsend is = self-distributing and distributors don't want to pick it up. he's a first = time filmmaker - heart's in the right place. but yeah, this isn't a = documentary, so don't go to the film for accuracy. it's like grand theft = auto for protesters=21 my link to the blog here. weblog.indiepixfilms.com -j -----Original Message----- From: =22R. Kairos=22 Sent 5/24/2008 1:26:36 PM To: ne-raves=40hyperreal.org Subject: =5Bne-raves=5D Battle in Seattle - the film - openning shots 2008 = cultural revisioningHmmm... Things get a bit curiouser Well yesterday I came across a blog link by accident to an opening of a commercial film on the protests against the WTO in Seattle in 1999. I lived there. I lived through it. I participated along with many others in a few different ways to create a new citizen media to cover the events at that time and to support the groups protesting the WTO. To me it was all something more like a social and spiritual movement and not so much a political protest. But it was many things to many people. =20 I watched the trailer for this movie - in a few words I can say this - it profoundly disturbed me to see events that I lived through and participated in shaping getting a glossy Hollywood style presentation - I watched it with the sound off. Simply at that level and from that distance it was easier to see distortions of fact and the shaping of impressions.=20 It was better to play the trailer without sound. =20 Really though the whole many months experience of the before during and after of that fateful 3 day world conference can't be captured in any easy way. Before even reading much about the film or seeing it I'll say this -=20 (1) the awe and suspension of what can only be called a collective mental force field of average people down town when people roamed freely before the police cleared the streets with tear gas pepper spray, batons and rubber bullets was about 20x a more powerful sense of freedom and knowledge than any rave experience I ever had (2) the wild attack of the police on average people in a whole neighborhood of Seattle on the second day changed forever my sense of what we live within. Never-the-less I don't consider myself a political person and focus on what people call politics less and less in the past two years. But I am profoundly disturbed to see something coming that may well further distort the direct experience of so many people at those events. =20 This does fit in with a few of the comments on the previous thread - we seem to be moving into a period now where the will be lots of cultural battles over the meaning of the 1969 summer of love the 1989 kick off of the rave culture and the 1999 globalization protests in Seattle. =20 Its about time in fact that these things should rise up to the surface... So here is link to the story the other day in the Seattle paper on the film opening - I make no comment on it or the film yet - only to raise this all on your radar -- 'Battle in Seattle' cast brings star power to SIFF opening galaCharlize Theron among those attending premiere By ATHIMA CHANSANCHAI P-I REPORTER Last updated May 23, 2008 3:04 p.m. = PThttp://seattlepi.nwsource.com/movies/364341_siff24.html I am curious if anyone else on here was there? peace Ralph/kairos >>--- NORTHEAST RAVES://hyperreal.org/raves/ne/ -----> Web-based sub/unsub: hyperreal.org/raves/ne/subscription/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe=40hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help=40hyperreal.org --------------Boundary-00=_LDOKRWY8LA6B3KMT9C1I Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
saw the film at siff. yeah, its glossed over. townsend is = self-distributing and distributors don't want to pick it up. he's a first = time filmmaker - heart's in the right place. but yeah, this isn't a = documentary, so don't go to the film for accuracy. it's like grand theft = auto for protesters=21 my link to the blog here.

weblog.indiepixfilms.com

-j


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From: =22R. Kairos=22 <ralph=40publicspaceforall.net>
Sent 5/24/2008 1:26:36 PM
To: ne-raves=40hyperreal.org
Subject: =5Bne-raves=5D Battle in Seattle - the film - openning shots 2008 = cultural revisioning

Hmmm...

Things get a bit curiouser



Well yesterday I came across a blog link by accident

to an opening of a commercial film on the protests

against the WTO in Seattle in 1999.



I lived there.  I lived through it. I participated

along with many others in a few different ways to

create a new citizen media to cover the events at that

time and to support the groups protesting the WTO.  To

me it was all something more like a social and

spiritual movement and not so much a political

protest. But it was many things to many people.  



I watched the trailer for this movie - in a few words

I can say this - it profoundly disturbed me to see

events that I lived through and participated in

shaping getting a glossy Hollywood style presentation

- I watched it with the sound off.  Simply at that

level and from that distance it was easier to see

distortions  of fact and the shaping of impressions. 

It was better to play the trailer without sound.  



Really though the whole many months experience of the

before during and after of that fateful 3 day world

conference can't be captured in any easy way.



Before even reading much about the film or seeing it

I'll say this - 

(1) the awe and suspension of what can only be called

a collective mental force field of average people down

town when people roamed freely before the police

cleared the streets with tear gas pepper spray, batons

and rubber bullets was about 20x a more powerful sense

of freedom and knowledge than any rave  experience I

ever had

(2) the wild attack of the police on average people in

a whole neighborhood of Seattle on the second day

changed forever my sense of what we live within.



Never-the-less I don't consider myself a political

person and focus on what people call politics less and

less in the past two years.



But I am profoundly disturbed to see something coming

that may well further distort the direct experience of

so many people at those events.  



This does fit in with a few of the comments on the

previous thread - we seem to be moving into a period

now where the will be lots of cultural battles over

the meaning of the 1969 summer of love the 1989 kick

off of the rave culture and the 1999 globalization

protests in Seattle.  



Its about time in fact that these things should rise

up  to the surface...



So here is link to the story the other day in the

Seattle paper on the film opening - I make no comment

on it or the film yet - only to raise this all on your

radar --



'Battle in Seattle' cast brings star power to SIFF

opening galaCharlize Theron among those attending

premiere

By ATHIMA CHANSANCHAI

P-I REPORTER

Last updated May 23, 2008 3:04 p.m. PT

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/movies/364341_siff24.ht=
ml
I am curious if anyone else on here was there?
peace
Ralph/kairos
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e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org From ne-raves-return-3825-ne-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 28 16:18:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ne-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 70983 invoked by uid 1046); 28 May 2008 16:18:57 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 70839 invoked from network); 28 May 2008 16:18:47 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=TMZu8mnN3DJdzTH2EcxwAoBHeMSwZ2S67s9n6nS/j/s=; b=i84nTJX7XHDVFv4uKG8WOYQFJBQsyfUXY6hLprs/gIAhPF63SspdD39G4szmUcPe8G/8lB7F9cdskoxwAR3Bcwnxgy3yqrLWQL3yyIiidpr5+ntaMrH2xARi/Lh1+Gl9ZyOt3WygRX74Rbldh7pZxmPgYNP+L1rYaMC8pnoAQvw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=EaqFOZ4cXMktJW6aXKPLXQ5Kw2RmE1bYc8wPiGSId75vLk6BCbqUGjy9Nx3Wke1koV9CJ6QcCLpOB4PQEVhbtoiqwpdEy1Uc0PgI0EvKtGklxwUJx8REmu7RmYg02KRbt6FNLUCpA7qASMdqNQ53H1DYx8JyXOWBim4icuTQC0Y= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 12:18:48 -0400 From: lou To: replyhere@seattletechno.com Cc: ne-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <1459.205.172.234.156.1210983104.squirrel@webmail.seattletechno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_13661_18141699.1211991528375" References: <1459.205.172.234.156.1210983104.squirrel@webmail.seattletechno.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] nyc visitor begs for aid ------=_Part_13661_18141699.1211991528375 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I wish i saw this earlier!!! Dieselboy played on sunday on a boat!!! It was a great party. I hope you still had a good memorial day weekend. On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 8:11 PM, groovinkim wrote: > 'lo all! i'm kimberley. i've been occasionally on and off this list over > the years. i live in seattle and do the http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/nw > page & http://www.nwtekno.org. > > i'm here to question you 'cause i'm making a rare visit to nyc next week. > i've been there all of once and saw very little, so this'll be my first > real visit of any length. actually it's mostly coincidental; i'm going to > mutek and i couldn't afford to fly to montreal directly, but i discovered > that rt to nyc & then taking the train to montreal from there was much > more affordable. but i loved what little i saw of nyc previously and am v. > excited. > > i arrive saturday the 24th and will be about 'til wednesday the 28th when > i head to montreal. i return on wednesday june 4 and can seek fun that > night too. > > i love many kinds of thumping, bleeping & squelching electronic music, > particularly bleepy minimal techno, house in all its forms, dubstep, idm. > hiphop too. i was hoping to check out the m83 shows but they sold out too > quickly :/ > > other random things i am fond of: street art/graffiti, film that makes you > say wtf, tea, anywhere with wifi, biking, dance dance revolution, burning > man, thrift stores, hula hooping. > > when i travel i prefer avoiding tourist crap and hanging out where locals > go. any tips on events i might enjoy (musical or otherwise) or good sites > to check out for information would be much appreciated =] if anyone has > couchspace for a few old ravers on tuesday the 27th or wednesday the 4th > that would also be awesome. > > i'd happily return the favor by showing you about should you find yourself > in seattle or thereabouts =) thanks in advance for any tips... > > kim > > http://www.to-evolve.com * \[-_-]\/[-_-]/ > > > > >>--- NORTHEAST RAVES://hyperreal.org/raves/ne/ -----> > Web-based sub/unsub: hyperreal.org/raves/ne/subscription/ > To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org > > -- /lou ------=_Part_13661_18141699.1211991528375-- From ne-raves-return-3826-ne-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 30 13:43:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ne-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29342 invoked by uid 1046); 30 May 2008 13:43:40 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29279 invoked from network); 30 May 2008 13:43:36 -0000 Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 09:43:39 -0400 From: technogirl To: technogirl , ne-raves@hyperreal.org Message-id: <002501c8c25b$2b300940$6501a8c0@gateway> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_KDGQ9K/LnNxtM2eyzaUC3g)" X-Priority: 1 X-MSMail-priority: High X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [ne-raves] TONIGHT [RE-UNION] HardyHard, Adam X, Prototype 909 --Boundary_(ID_KDGQ9K/LnNxtM2eyzaUC3g) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Adam X *LIVE* in support of his new CD "State Of Limbo" (Sonic Groove, Rustblade Berlin , NYC) Prototype 909 *LIVE* with Dietrich Schoenemann, Szostek, Taylor Deupree (Sonic Groove, Conversation) and special guest star HardyHard (MAYDAY, LowSpirit, Electric Kingdom / Berlin - Germany) 7x DJs & 2 Live Acts Line-up / Hardy Hard (Low Spirit, MAYDAY, Electric Kingdom - Berlin , Germany) Adam X *LIVE* (Sonic Groove, Rustblade Berlin , NYC) Prototype 909 *LIVE* (Sonic Groove, Conversation) Bruce Tantum (TimeOut NY) Rm.2 with How Hard (Hardmind, Ravers Only, Hard Kryptic Records), Tracatak (Vitus, Industrial Strength) John Dough (Drumasheenz), Tommy Diaz (Groove Therapy), Integrity (Hardmind, DPIM Rec) STUDIO B 259 Banker Street (betw Meserole and Calyer) $15 AT THE DOOR / $10 REDUCED GUESTLIST (21+) --Boundary_(ID_KDGQ9K/LnNxtM2eyzaUC3g)-- From ne-raves-return-3827-ne-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 30 13:59:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ne-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 42921 invoked by uid 1046); 30 May 2008 13:59:16 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 42880 invoked from network); 30 May 2008 13:59:15 -0000 Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 09:59:18 -0400 From: technogirl To: ne-raves@hyperreal.org Message-id: <001b01c8c25d$5aaf3cc0$6501a8c0@gateway> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_E/QJnZJcbesrApT05Io5Gw)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [ne-raves] TONIGHT [RE-UNION] 7xDJs - 2x Live PA @Studio B (only $10 on Guestlist) --Boundary_(ID_E/QJnZJcbesrApT05Io5Gw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Adam X *LIVE* in support of his new CD "State Of Limbo" (Sonic Groove, Rustblade Berlin , NYC) Prototype 909 *LIVE* with Dietrich Schoenemann, Szostek, Taylor Deupree (Sonic Groove, Conversation) and special guest star HardyHard (MAYDAY, LowSpirit, Electric Kingdom / Berlin - Germany) 7x DJs & 2 Live Acts Line-up / Hardy Hard (Low Spirit, MAYDAY, Electric Kingdom - Berlin , Germany) Adam X *LIVE* (Sonic Groove, Rustblade Berlin , NYC) Prototype 909 *LIVE* (Sonic Groove, Conversation) Bruce Tantum (TimeOut NY) Rm.2 with How Hard (Hardmind, Ravers Only, Hard Kryptic Records), Tracatak (Vitus, Industrial Strength) John Dough (Drumasheenz), Tommy Diaz (Groove Therapy), Integrity (Hardmind, DPIM Rec) STUDIO B 259 Banker Street (betw Meserole and Calyer) $15 AT THE DOOR / $10 REDUCED GUESTLIST (21+) --Boundary_(ID_E/QJnZJcbesrApT05Io5Gw)-- From ne-raves-return-3828-ne-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 30 14:02:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ne-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 46601 invoked by uid 1046); 30 May 2008 14:02:41 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 46559 invoked from network); 30 May 2008 14:02:39 -0000 Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 10:02:43 -0400 From: technogirl To: ne-raves@hyperreal.org Message-id: <003301c8c25d$d49bb360$6501a8c0@gateway> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_fC+AcNVV0IIAfAkXeT+hJw)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [ne-raves] TONIGHT [RE-UNION] 7xDJs & 2x LIVE SETS @ Studio B B5E-1D8 --Boundary_(ID_fC+AcNVV0IIAfAkXeT+hJw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Adam X *LIVE* in support of his new CD "State Of Limbo" (Sonic Groove, Rustblade Berlin , NYC) Prototype 909 *LIVE* with Dietrich Schoenemann, Szostek, Taylor Deupree (Sonic Groove, Conversation) and special guest star HardyHard (MAYDAY, LowSpirit, Electric Kingdom / Berlin - Germany) 7x DJs & 2 Live Acts Line-up / Hardy Hard (Low Spirit, MAYDAY, Electric Kingdom - Berlin , Germany) Adam X *LIVE* (Sonic Groove, Rustblade Berlin , NYC) Prototype 909 *LIVE* (Sonic Groove, Conversation) Bruce Tantum (TimeOut NY) Rm.2 with How Hard (Hardmind, Ravers Only, Hard Kryptic Records), Tracatak (Vitus, Industrial Strength) John Dough (Drumasheenz), Tommy Diaz (Groove Therapy), Integrity (Hardmind, DPIM Rec) STUDIO B 259 Banker Street (betw Meserole and Calyer) $15 AT THE DOOR / $10 REDUCED GUESTLIST (21+) --Boundary_(ID_fC+AcNVV0IIAfAkXeT+hJw)--