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Subject: [ne-raves] NYC Sat June 16 - Dub War 2nd Birthday - Plastician, Matty G, Joe Nice @ LOVE

2 years on and Dub War is going strong, so help us celebrate our 2nd
birthday on June 16 at LOVE (which was seriously on point for Kode 9
last month). This time around, rowdy b-boy bizness to ring in another
year of forward-thinking dubwise beats. BBC Radio1's grime/dubstep wonderkid
Plastician alongside San Francisco's Matty G (whose SchoolyD-sampling
"50,000 Watts" has written Cali G-funk into the dubstep playbook)...

Saturday, June 16 2007
Dub War and Direct Drive Present:
DUB WAR 2ND BIRTHDAY BASH

w/
THE PLASTICIAN (BBC Radio 1, Terrorrhythm, UK)
MATTY G (Argon Rec, SF)
NICK ARGON (Argon Rec, SF)
I-SOUND (Wasteland, NYC)
CLEVER (BBS, Offshore NYC)
JOHN ASK (Downtempo Soundsystem, Baltimore)

+ the residents
JOE NICE
DAVE Q
MC JUAKALI

Location:
LOVE
179 MacDougal St at 8th St
(F/V/A/C trains to W4th)
New York City

$5 before 10pm / $10 before midnight / $15 after
21+ (bring ID)

Info:
www.dubwarnyc.com
www.musicislove.net
www.directdrive.com

Come early. Last year's birthday bash was ram-jamma!

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Subject: [ne-raves] Lenny dee, Lexy & K-Paul, Benno Blome DJ Sets FREE Dowloads

http://www.doojee.com


NEXT EVENT:

FRI 6.22 @ Club-Exit in Brooklyn, NY

BENNO BLOME sender, kompakt (Berlin / GERMANY)
METOPE LIVE areal, kompakt (Berlin / GERMANY)
LENNY DEE rotterdam rec, industrial strength


Club Exit (www.club-exit.com)
147 Greenpoint Ave. Brooklyn, NY
10:00pm-06.00am. 18 to enter and 21 to drink
$20.00 day of show / $15.00 in advance
Two areas of music. Top sound, lighting and video projections!

>From Brooklyn take train to Greenpoint Ave.

>From Manhattan take train to Lorimer St.

BUY REDUCED TICKETS ($15.00 in advance)
Satellite Records . 259 Bowery . NY, NY . 212-995-1744
Halcyon . 57 Pearl St. . Dumbo Bklyn . 718-260-9299
Online Pre-sale (www.doojee.com)

WIN TICKETS
Ticket giveaways June 18th on Bentwave
Bentwave, every Monday nights 10:30-1am on WNYU 89.1FM
http://www.wnyu.org

Sign-up on the REDUCED GUESTLIST at doojee.com 
$15.00 entry between 10pm and 12 midnight ONLY. 
Guestlist closes at 8pm day of show, so don't miss out! 

Check out the website, & subscribe to our mailing list (doojee.com)

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From ne-raves-return-3431-ne-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jun 06 00:54:56 2007
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Come out Thursday June 7th NEW Lower East Side venue owned by DJs &  
musicians

<img src="http://djpaulc.com/pics/nycdnb8x11.jpg">

DJs
PAUL C Jungle Nation djpaulc.com Ireland / NYC 3 - 4
ODI Digital Konfusion myspace.com/djodi Harlem / NYC 2 - 3
CHRISTIAN BRUNA Camouflage camonyc.com Queens / NYC 1 - 2
REMINGTON Telluric recordings djremington.com DC / NYC 12 - 1
GHOSTRUNNER Understandinc myspace.com/ghorunner NJ / NYC 11 - 12
DAWN Virgin Records Bronx / NYC 10 - 11

MC
STADA Konkrete Jungle konkretejungle.com Brooklyn / NYC (50% of the  
evening)

VJ
PIXALOT The Lab myspace.com/pixalot Canada / NYC (50% of the evening)

Clean...

Sound ( Reinforced & Doubled up by Convoy )
Lasers
Projections
Lighting
Live music stage
DJ Booth
Dancefloor
6 DJs
1 MC
1 VJ
Full Bar
Drink specials
Video Games
First 1 $FREE!
Stay tuned, grab flyer & spread word...

Respect all heads pushin the sound proper, lets get the Summer on

One
P

NYCizzle Dizzle & Bizzle

Repost 4 luv :D http://djpaulc.com/pics/nycdnb8x11.jpg
http://djpaulc.com/sounds/Ccast6.mp3

Please visit <a  
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newyorkcitydrumandbass</a>
and <a href="http://www.djpaulc.com">www.djpaulc.com</a> for More  
Music, dates, etc Gracias :D

<a href="http://djpaulc.com/sounds/Ccast6.mp3">C cast 6: Nu 1 shot mix  
June 30th broadcast</a>


Ph (001+) 1 917 977 0266
Fax: (001+) 1 212 505 2412
aim: DJ PAULC 04

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Subject: [ne-raves] nrr - jabari asim, author of The N Word at studio museum in harlem tonite 7
 pm


tonight at 7 pm.

http://www.harlemonestop.com/event.php?id=2348
                        
 Studio Museum in       
 Harlem                 
 144 West 125th Street  
 New York, NY 10027     
 212.864.4500 phone     
                        



Jabari says he goes to talk about his book, but what emerges from the
dialogues always blows him away.

i've been to three of his book events and the dialogues were truly moving.

photos (#10 - 16) from a recent booksigning at the Reginald Lewis Museum in
baltimore (look at the face of the man in #13):

http://www.baltimoresun.com/features/custom/unisun/bal-unisun-partyphotos0603,0,3202535.photogallery?coll=bal-unisun-utility&index=14


highly recommend peeps to go if you can.  :)

respectfully,
mary :)

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Subject: [ne-raves] 06/08: The Secret Night of Science @ LOVE | THE INSIDERS *Debut*

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Friday June 8, 2007

Breakbeat Science and Telluric Recordings present:

The Secret Night of Science

TRON Movie Screening from 9pm-11pm.

Drum & Bass from 11pm - 6am w/ DJs:
THE INSIDERS *NYC Debut*
CLEVER
DB
PLACE 42
DJ STRESS

Cover:
$5 B4 10pm
$10 B4 1am
$15 After 1am

Doors open 8:30pm - 6:00am

@ LOVE
179 MacDougal St.
New York, NY

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Subject: [ne-raves] NYC - Fw: [MetroMo] Meet-up Tonight at 7pm!

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From: Don Owen Rider <owen@metromo.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2007 10:29:01 AM

Greetings Dance Fans-
 
Just a reminder about Metropolis in Motion's monthly meet-up tonight, 
Thursday, June 7 at:
 
Kabin Bar (side lounge)
92 Second Ave, btw 5th and 6th St
Happy Hour starts at 7pm, Meeting begins at 7:30pm
 
Come meet fellow dance enthusiasts and find out about new opportunities 
to get involved in the effort to legalize dancing in NYC!
 
On the agenda:
 
- News from the Frontlines
- New research committee forming
- Summer public outreach / tabling effort
- Fundraiser next Thursday
 
Hope to see you there!

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Subject: [ne-raves] Starscape tomorrow!

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This is gonna be one fun night!  If you can make it to Baltimore tomorrow do
it!

http://www.starscapefestival.com/

-- 
KeNNy!
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hey everyone,

i just released my third album through amduscias records.
you can download it for free here:

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i have provided a write up on the album and cover art so that if you wish to burn a cd you have a complete album as usual.

also amduscias has had six more releases between mine, so go check it out while youre there! meanwhile, im back in the studio working on a new album, updates to come soon... have a great weekend and listen to lots of tunage!

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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Starscape tomorrow!

So how was it?

On Fri, 8 Jun 2007, The Work It Circuit wrote:

> This is gonna be one fun night!  If you can make it to Baltimore tomorrow do
> it!
>
> http://www.starscapefestival.com/
>
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I think everyone would say it was a success!  I wasn't overly impressed with
the bands they had this year, but I was in the minority.  I really don't
like bands so I'm biased.  I am however encouraged by the extra people it
brought out.  As for the edm, it was great!  I can't really give a DJ by DJ
review because I seldom stick around for entire sets, but I can say Craze is
freakin incredible.  That guy never fails to impress.  And whoever the house
DJs were on the beach, you guys were amazing!

As usual for Starscape, the people really made the event. There's just
something about the crowd that shows up there.

Ken


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> So how was it?
>
> On Fri, 8 Jun 2007, The Work It Circuit wrote:
>
> > This is gonna be one fun night!  If you can make it to Baltimore
> tomorrow do
> > it!
> >
> > http://www.starscapefestival.com/
> >
> >
>



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Ragga Party ~ NAKEDSLICE & FISHSTIX ~ June 14 ~ San Fran




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Thursday June 14th
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Subject: [ne-raves] NYC - Fwd: [MetroMo] Fundraiser Party this Thursday!

--- Don Owen Rider <owen@metromo.org> wrote:
> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 16:58:29 -0400
> 
> Hello, Dancing Fans-
> 
> Just a reminder about Metropolis in Motion's fundraiser party at the 
> Continental Bar THIS THURSDAY to raise money for our float in the Dance 
> Parade, our summer outreach plans, and postcard campaign. If this party 
> is successful, similar events could become an important means of 
> supporting our efforts, so please join us Thursday and help legalize 
> dancing in NYC!  We'll be selling "Legalize Dancing" buttons and handing 
> out postcards and fact sheets you can use to help with the effort.
> 
> Continental Bar (Third Ave @ St Marks)
> Thursday, June 14, 9 pm - 1 am
> $5 at the door
> DJ Jason Blackkat & DJ Arrow Chrome and other special guests
> http://metropolisinmotion.org/
> 
> Hope to see you there!
> 
> ***
> 
> Also, our next monthly meet-up will be 8pm on Thursday, July 12- one 
> week later due to the holiday.  Location and agenda will be announced in 
> July.



       
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>
> THE YEAR 1907
>
>
>
> The year is  1907.
>
> One hundred years ago.
>
> What a difference a  century makes!
>
> Here are some of the U.S. Statistics for the Year  1907:
>
>  ************************************
>
>
>
> The average  life expectancy in the U.S. Was 47 years old.
>
>
>
>  Only 14 percent of the homes in the U.S. had a  bathtub.
>
>
>
> Only 8 percent of the homes had a  telephone.
>
>
>
> A three-minute call from Denver to  New York City
>
> Cost eleven  dollars.
>
>
>
> There were only 8,000 cars in the U.S.  , and only 144 miles of paved 
> roads.
>
>
>
>  The maximum speed limit in most cities was 10  mph.
>
>
>
> Alabama, Mississippi, Iowa, and Tennessee  were each more
>
> Heavily populated than California  .
>
>
>
> With a mere 1.4 million people, California was  only the 21st
>
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PLA Productions presents...
STEREO

                             June 15, 2007 @ Espresso's Portuguese Restaurant           
                                   Centreville Rd., Manassas, Virginia 20110
                                             Cost           : FREE before 10:30
Only $10 at the door, $5 w/ flyer

party runs 10pm - close

                                 A night of House and Trance music with 2 of Northern Virginia's Hottest up & coming DJ talents...
DJ CASPER & dj.tim.leary


details at:
http://www.myspace.com/fifty2eighty3
&
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=10178697&blogID=274897496&MyToken=f1e77fa2-1107-4d7a-8913-19d7639eb50d
plur...




       
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i used to live out there for 9 years. back then i held some events with shilo, but 2 years ago i moved back into arlington. funny how things come full circle...

TZEECH <TZEECH@COMCAST.NET> wrote: MANASSAS!!!
i use to party down there with SINESTRO and gang!!!!
@ the OLD TRIPPCO. PARTIES!!!!

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> PLA Productions presents...
> STEREO
>
>                             June 15, 2007 @ Espresso's Portuguese 
> Restaurant
>                                   Centreville Rd., Manassas, Virginia 
> 20110
>                                             Cost           : FREE before 
> 10:30
> Only $10 at the door, $5 w/ flyer
>
> party runs 10pm - close
>
>                                 A night of House and Trance music with 2 
> of Northern Virginia's Hottest up & coming DJ talents...
> DJ CASPER & dj.tim.leary
>
>
> details at:
> http://www.myspace.com/fifty2eighty3
> &
> http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=10178697&blogID=274897496&MyToken=f1e77fa2-1107-4d7a-8913-19d7639eb50d
> plur...
>
>
>
>
>
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> knows.
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word, Ken, great success!

big up, Ultraworld!

big up, Lonnie Fisher!

Craze IS freakin incredible!   :)

posted some pix here if anyone wants to look:

http://www.dogsonacid.com/showthread.php?threadid=501378&goto=newpost

magical night!

mary =D

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 Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Starscape tomorrow!  
                                              

I think everyone would say it was a success!  I wasn't overly impressed
with
the bands they had this year, but I was in the minority.  I really don't
like bands so I'm biased.  I am however encouraged by the extra people it
brought out.  As for the edm, it was great!  I can't really give a DJ by DJ
review because I seldom stick around for entire sets, but I can say Craze
is
freakin incredible.  That guy never fails to impress.  And whoever the
house
DJs were on the beach, you guys were amazing!

As usual for Starscape, the people really made the event. There's just
something about the crowd that shows up there.

Ken

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Direct Drive presents... 
Thursday June 21st, 2007 

Main Floor: 

JOHN B
(Metalheadz | Beta Recordings | Nu Electro | UK)

DATCYDE 
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DJ SEEN 
(Burner Brothers | Direct Drive) 

REMINGTON 
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2nd Room: 
CT, FATJO, MISS WORLD, JUBILEE 

Venue: REBEL - 251 W30th Street 
(7th & 8th Ave) NYC 
$10 B4 12am, $15 after 

www.DirectDrive.net 
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Subject: [ne-raves] THIS FRIDAY: BENNO BLOME (Sender) METOPE (Areal) LENNY DEE w. 8x DJs +
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FRI. JUN22 - 2007 @Club-Exit in Bklyn

BENNO BLOME sender, kompakt (Berlin / GERMANY)
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Club Exit (www.club-exit.com)
147 Greenpoint Ave. Brooklyn, NY
10:00pm-06.00am. 18 to enter and 21 to drink
$20.00 day of show / $15.00 in advance
Two areas of music. Top sound, lighting and video projections!
>From Brooklyn take train to Greenpoint Ave.

>From Manhattan take train to Lorimer St.

BUY REDUCED TICKETS ($15.00 in advance)
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Subject: [ne-raves] 06/22: KLUTE @ The Secret Night of Science (NYC)

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ON FRIDAY JUNE 22thnd BREAKBEAT SCIENCE & TELLURIC RECORDINGS BRING SEXY CHILL DRUM & BASS BACK TO NY AGAIN..

“A SPECIAL” Secret Night of Science

FLAVORPILL calls it “The Best D&B Night in NYC”

THE DEEPEST, MOST SOULFUL D+B NIGHT EVER IN NEW YORK on the BADDEST SOUND SYSTEM IN THE CITY

that’s it, no more excuses... THIS IS WHAT YOU’VE WANTED !

8.30 – Doors open

9.00 – Return Of The Jedi – STAR WARS Episode VI
see the movie on a huge screen with sick surround sound

11.00 – DJs do their thing.
KLUTE (ONLY NYC DATE – Release Party for “Emperors New Clothes CD”) 
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PLACE 42
DJ STRESS

6.00am – Doors close.

Just for the night, the bar will be serving $4 SECRET PUNCH & Secret Ale.

$10 in Advance
$12 before Midnight
$18 after Midnight

TO ENSURE ENTRANCE, THERE ARE A LIMITED NUMBER OF ADVANCE TICKETS AVALIBLE FOR $10

Click Here 
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LOVE
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Please try to understand that this is not just another club night. The people behind LOVE have put their hearts and souls into building a venue dedicated to Music, Art, and most importantly Respect- it is very important to us that you (our scene) recognize and appreciate this fact by responding in kind, and treating each other and the venue with the respect both deserve. When you see and hear the sound system that has been painstakingly built at LOVE, it will leave you breathless, and you will understand. We feel honored to have been asked to create an event to showcase the deepest side of a genre that is mostly ignored and undiscovered in NYC. Also we’ve thought long and hard about this and we’ve decided to have a no- MC policy. Please understand, we’re not trying to offend mcs, many of who are our friends, we’re trying to let people really hear the subtleties of this beautiful music, Come and enjoy.
rhe secret night crew.

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Subject: [ne-raves] Saturday, June 23 - Never Too Old Skool - Washington DC

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Hey NE Ravers,=20

I used to frequent this list like 10 years ago. Does Dan FREElove still =
admin? I know he lurks over at Ravers Geriatric, which is an =
international rave list for crusty ravers 25 and over. (Check out =
www.raverg.org if you would like to join).=20

This weekend, on Saturday night, June 23, RaverG is having its first =
"Never Too Old Skool" rave in Washington DC at Duke's City in NW. Old =
skool NE ravers from Boston to North Carolina are making their way here =
and the vibe should be thick. If you find yourself around DC town this =
Saturday, come by our little "Back in Time TAZ" Here's the details:

Never Too Old Skool
9 PM - 3 AM, Saturday, June 23, 2007
1208 U St. NW at Duke's City - Near Cardozo Metro
Washington DC
Open to all >21- $10 at the door

Performers include=20

9 - 10 - Fast Forty - From District of Chaos Studios performing live his =
unique brand of Intense Ambient
10 - 11 - Speakerhugger - aka Velure from back in the day
11 - 12:15 - DJ LO, from Wisconsin, who I used to hear spin out in =
Dallas, TX in 1984 when E was legal and we charged it to our credit card =

12.15 - 1:30 - Satori - You know him and love him. Find his picture next =
to Webster's definition of "netraver" and =20
1:30 - 3 - Sixtwentyone - Yeah, DC's own "Fifth Column".. We couldn't =
find anyone else.

Warp[core] is providing wicked sound, LCD lights, and lasers.=20

Duke's City has a full bar and a nice porch to chill out.=20
E-Flyer below. Forward to the deserving. See you there!

Jammin' James E
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What the devil is "Intense Ambient"?  In my day...

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> 9 - 10 - Fast Forty - From District of Chaos Studios performing  
> live his unique brand of Intense Ambient
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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Saturday, June 23 - Never Too Old Skool - Washington
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On Wed, 20 Jun 2007, James E wrote:

Wow, here's a name I haven't seen in a long while.

> I used to frequent this list like 10 years ago. Does Dan FREElove still admin?

My history might be off but Dan hasn't adminned since about '98 when NER was 
passed off to Keith aka Dr Jesus who then passed it off to Skinner in '01 then 
to me in '05. It's a slow ugly death here.

> This weekend, on Saturday night, June 23, RaverG is having its first "Never Too Old Skool" rave in Washington DC at Duke's City in NW. Old skool NE ravers from Boston to North Carolina are making their way here and the vibe should be thick. If you find yourself around DC town this Saturday, come by our little "Back in Time TAZ" Here's the details:
>
> Never Too Old Skool
> 9 PM - 3 AM, Saturday, June 23, 2007
> 1208 U St. NW at Duke's City - Near Cardozo Metro
> Washington DC
> Open to all >21- $10 at the door

Longer lead time next time please. Can't make it but sounds cool although I'm 
not sure who I'd know if anyone. Tis a shame there are Not enough youngins with 
the energy to organize a picnic or something.

Jasper

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--- Jasper <jasper@hyperreal.org> wrote:

> On Wed, 20 Jun 2007, James E wrote:
> 
> Wow, here's a name I haven't seen in a long while.
> 

Likewise.  outta tha woodwork






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Current status: 44 y.o, married to Heather, who I met at a rave - Little 
Secret - in Richmond, VA in March, 1997, have 2 little ravers in waiting, 
Julien - age 7 and Miles - age 5. Still practice corporate law, now for a 
global IT company in DC. Still party (of course), still rave , still have 
the same hair cut. Whatever happened to Dr. Jesus and Skinner?

JJE

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> --- Jasper <jasper@hyperreal.org> wrote:
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>> On Wed, 20 Jun 2007, James E wrote:
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>> Wow, here's a name I haven't seen in a long while.
>>
>
> Likewise.  outta tha woodwork 


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Subject: [ne-raves] Tripping the light fantastic... with cane in hand

On Thu, 21 Jun 2007, James E wrote:

> Current status: 44 y.o, married to Heather, who I met at a rave - Little 
> Secret - in Richmond, VA in March, 1997, have 2 little ravers in waiting, 
> Julien - age 7 and Miles - age 5. Still practice corporate law, now for a 
> global IT company in DC. Still party (of course), still rave , still have the 
> same hair cut.

It was all nice and good back then. The only people who had net access and email 
accounts were smart and technically inclined university affiliates or the 
military but I don't remember them being on the same playgrounds. Wouldn't be 
ashamed to say I met my wife at a rave back in the 90s though 97 is starting to 
push it. Now?.. it's a gene pool that I wouldn't touch with a ten foot glow 
stick and I'm guessing will suffer Darwinian obsolescence if not for some 
post-ravers who are crossing over and dabbling without turning their backs on 
the rave scene and disowning it entirely.

Gives me much hope that you guys are still out and about having fun with 
corporate jobs and two in tow. Feel my cockles. They're warm. Really. I don't 
have a respectable job and no dependents and I still have to think hard about 
whether or not I'm having fun anymore. Starting to forget how.

Wish I could say I had the same hair as regretable as some of my style choices 
were or at least the same _amount_ of hair as it is now as fleeting as the idea 
of techno and the Prodigy were to save the future of American music.

> Whatever happened to Dr. Jesus and Skinner?
> JJE

Not too close to Dr Jesus but he decided to take a break and went off the grid. 
No net and no email for a spell I believe.

Skinner has a bio not unlike yours. He's out in PA in a house he bought living 
with his wife and her kids. Only concerns himself with the Gabber list now. 
Still has his Hyperreal account if you want to give him a shout and clear up the 
inaccuracies I'm probably perpetrating. He's also to blame for this:
http://www.myspace.com/blackmonolith

Jasper

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Dr. Jesus lives in San Francisco and I think does some kind of tech
consulting. Not sure what Skinner's up to but I bet Jasper knows.
:)

-Megan

On 6/21/07, James E <jamje@cox.net> wrote:
>
> Current status: 44 y.o, married to Heather, who I met at a rave - Little
> Secret - in Richmond, VA in March, 1997, have 2 little ravers in waiting,
> Julien - age 7 and Miles - age 5. Still practice corporate law, now for a
> global IT company in DC. Still party (of course), still rave , still have
> the same hair cut. Whatever happened to Dr. Jesus and Skinner?
>
> JJE
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Frank Scott" <frank_i_s@yahoo.com>
> To: "Jasper" <jasper@hyperreal.org>; "James E" <jamje@cox.net>
> Cc: "ne-raves" <ne-raves@hyperreal.org>
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> DC
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> >
> > --- Jasper <jasper@hyperreal.org> wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, 20 Jun 2007, James E wrote:
> >>
> >> Wow, here's a name I haven't seen in a long while.
> >>
> >
> > Likewise.  outta tha woodwork
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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Saturday, June 23 - Never Too Old Skool - Washington DC

That would have been Vibration. Remember the half room we netravers took 
over that night? *drool* I think we set the guiness record for largest 
E-pile ever. I remember rolling back to NYC that morning and stopping at the 
Maryland House rest stop on I95. We had taken' ovah that place with phreaks 
dancing to the sound of mufflers in the parking lot. God, those were fucking 
happy times. I am rushing just thinking about it. Ditto, though, on the 
memory thing. Simply fragments of pictures of memories now. Well, now that 
NER is itself just a fragment of what it was, maybe I'll hang out here for a 
while.

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> I've been on and off this list for like 13 years now. Mostly off for the 
> last 9 or 10 or so. I think I met you at one of the Ultraworld NYE 
> things - maybe 95 or 96. I have no idea. I can't remember that far back. 


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Subject: [ne-raves] Re: Tripping the light fantastic... with cane in hand

> push it. Now?.. it's a gene pool that I wouldn't touch with a ten foot 
> glow stick and I'm guessing will suffer Darwinian obsolescence if not for 
> some post-ravers who are crossing over and dabbling without turning their 
> backs on the rave scene and disowning it entirely.

Tut, tut, so cynical Jasper. Its up to us to teach the youngins. Now, get 
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Subject: [ne-raves] Josh Wink's last wednesday night (6/27) at fluid for the summer ...


from Ovum Recordings press release ...

< Josh Wink will be at Fluid this Wednesday night for his final Last
Wednesday appearance of the Summer.  Josh will be unable to play in July
and August as he is doing his first long term residency in Ibiza at the
legendary Circo Loco party at DC10. Come out and say Bon Voyage as Josh
embarks on a summer tour that will take him all over Europe.  Go check out
www.ovum-rec.com  or www.myspace.com/ovumrecordings
to see Josh's upcoming schedule.  Check out these clips from this past
weekend in Montreal to see what is in store for you when catching up with
Mr. Wink
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqXE5xjYZoY

This plans on being a big summer for Ovum as Chymera "Umbrella" and Shlomi
Aber "Freakside" continue to make a stir.  If you haven't bought a copy yet
what are you waiting for.  We are also about to start promo on the latest
from Tom Pooks "Trouble", which is already causing a huge stir and a new EP
from Taho that has been one of Josh's biggest records on the road!  We will
also be launching a new comp series this fall, so get ready for big things.

Happy Trails,
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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Josh Wink's last wednesday night (6/27) at fluid for
 the summer ...

I was looking at this clip and it looks like he is playing on CDs? 
Nowhere on the clip do I see him handling any records or the turntables 
even turning.

I was back at my college for a reunion at the end of May and I spun a 
short set in the disco. The kid who was doing the technical stuff says 
that they are thinking of getting rid of the turntables because no one 
ever uses them. All of us older DJs were shocked. Some of them used most 
or all CDs, but all of us have vinyl and play it.

The kid told us that no one even uses the CD players anymore - they all 
just bring in their laptops, plug them in to the mixer, and hit play on 
iTunes. That is a sad state of affairs in my opinion.

I think my original comment was about the fact that it looks like Josh 
is not using any vinyl - is this common among DJs these days?

Mary Morris wrote:
> from Ovum Recordings press release ...
>
> < Josh Wink will be at Fluid this Wednesday night for his final Last
> Wednesday appearance of the Summer.  Josh will be unable to play in July
> and August as he is doing his first long term residency in Ibiza at the
> legendary Circo Loco party at DC10. Come out and say Bon Voyage as Josh
> embarks on a summer tour that will take him all over Europe.  Go check out
> www.ovum-rec.com  or www.myspace.com/ovumrecordings
> to see Josh's upcoming schedule.  Check out these clips from this past
> weekend in Montreal to see what is in store for you when catching up with
> Mr. Wink
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqXE5xjYZoY
>
> This plans on being a big summer for Ovum as Chymera "Umbrella" and Shlomi
> Aber "Freakside" continue to make a stir.  If you haven't bought a copy yet
> what are you waiting for.  We are also about to start promo on the latest
> from Tom Pooks "Trouble", which is already causing a huge stir and a new EP
> from Taho that has been one of Josh's biggest records on the road!  We will
> also be launching a new comp series this fall, so get ready for big things.
>
> Happy Trails,
> Ovum >
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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Josh Wink's last wednesday night (6/27) at fluid for th
	e summer ...

...i'm not so sure i'd rather hear a dj "play" records that were purchas=
ed than a "composer" presenting music they had made themselves.

of course, i think that just about anyone who cares to do a live perform=
ance with a laptop can do more than press "play" on a recording....abelt=
on live allows for much more interactivity with almost no work.

deknow

-- Eric <rave@skooch.com> wrote:
I was looking at this clip and it looks like he is playing on CDs? =

Nowhere on the clip do I see him handling any records or the turntables =
=

even turning.

I was back at my college for a reunion at the end of May and I spun a =

short set in the disco. The kid who was doing the technical stuff says =

that they are thinking of getting rid of the turntables because no one =

ever uses them. All of us older DJs were shocked. Some of them used most=
 =

or all CDs, but all of us have vinyl and play it.

The kid told us that no one even uses the CD players anymore - they all =
=

just bring in their laptops, plug them in to the mixer, and hit play on =
=

iTunes. That is a sad state of affairs in my opinion.

I think my original comment was about the fact that it looks like Josh =

is not using any vinyl - is this common among DJs these days?

Mary Morris wrote:
> from Ovum Recordings press release ...
>
> < Josh Wink will be at Fluid this Wednesday night for his final Last
> Wednesday appearance of the Summer.  Josh will be unable to play in Ju=
ly
> and August as he is doing his first long term residency in Ibiza at th=
e
> legendary Circo Loco party at DC10. Come out and say Bon Voyage as Jos=
h
> embarks on a summer tour that will take him all over Europe.  Go check=
 out
> www.ovum-rec.com  or www.myspace.com/ovumrecordings
> to see Josh's upcoming schedule.  Check out these clips from this past=

> weekend in Montreal to see what is in store for you when catching up w=
ith
> Mr. Wink
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DWqXE5xjYZoY
>
> This plans on being a big summer for Ovum as Chymera "Umbrella" and Sh=
lomi
> Aber "Freakside" continue to make a stir.  If you haven't bought a cop=
y yet
> what are you waiting for.  We are also about to start promo on the lat=
est
> from Tom Pooks "Trouble", which is already causing a huge stir and a n=
ew EP
> from Taho that has been one of Josh's biggest records on the road!  We=
 will
> also be launching a new comp series this fall, so get ready for big th=
ings.
>
> Happy Trails,
> Ovum >
>
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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Josh Wink's last wednesday night (6/27) at fluid for the
 summer ...

hi Eric, i think it's become pretty common.  i asked Christopher Lawrence
when he was in baltimore for Starscape and he said as much as he loves
vinyl, he's 100 percent cds now.  part of the reason was that he had back
surgery in april.  Dieselboy spins mostly cds, as does AK1200 ... mary

Eric said:

< I was looking at this clip and it looks like he is playing on CDs?
Nowhere on the clip do I see him handling any records or the turntables
even turning.

I was back at my college for a reunion at the end of May and I spun a
short set in the disco. The kid who was doing the technical stuff says
that they are thinking of getting rid of the turntables because no one
ever uses them. All of us older DJs were shocked. Some of them used most
or all CDs, but all of us have vinyl and play it.

The kid told us that no one even uses the CD players anymore - they all
just bring in their laptops, plug them in to the mixer, and hit play on
iTunes. That is a sad state of affairs in my opinion.

I think my original comment was about the fact that it looks like Josh
is not using any vinyl - is this common among DJs these days? >

Mary Morris wrote:
> from Ovum Recordings press release ...
>
> < Josh Wink will be at Fluid this Wednesday night for his final Last
> Wednesday appearance of the Summer.  Josh will be unable to play in July
> and August as he is doing his first long term residency in Ibiza at the
> legendary Circo Loco party at DC10. Come out and say Bon Voyage as Josh
> embarks on a summer tour that will take him all over Europe.  Go check
out
> www.ovum-rec.com  or www.myspace.com/ovumrecordings
> to see Josh's upcoming schedule.  Check out these clips from this past
> weekend in Montreal to see what is in store for you when catching up with
> Mr. Wink
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqXE5xjYZoY
>
> This plans on being a big summer for Ovum as Chymera "Umbrella" and
Shlomi
> Aber "Freakside" continue to make a stir.  If you haven't bought a copy
yet
> what are you waiting for.  We are also about to start promo on the latest
> from Tom Pooks "Trouble", which is already causing a huge stir and a new
EP
> from Taho that has been one of Josh's biggest records on the road!  We
will
> also be launching a new comp series this fall, so get ready for big
things.
>
> Happy Trails,
> Ovum >

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If they were playing music that they had composed themselves I would 
have no problem with it. Or even if they were doing manipulation of the 
MP3s or anything that involved creativity or effort.

What I was told that the "DJs" do these days is they just load up 
iTunes, plug in the laptop, hit play and then leave the booth. They set 
up their playlist before hand so they are not needed once they hit "Play."

I would be pretty OK with it if it was their own music but loading up a 
list of downloaded MP3s seems a bit weak to me. I probably should have 
been a bit more clear about that.


deknow@netzero.net wrote:
> ...i'm not so sure i'd rather hear a dj "play" records that were purchased than a "composer" presenting music they had made themselves.
>
> of course, i think that just about anyone who cares to do a live performance with a laptop can do more than press "play" on a recording....abelton live allows for much more interactivity with almost no work.
>
> deknow
>
> -- Eric <rave@skooch.com> wrote:
> I was looking at this clip and it looks like he is playing on CDs? 
> Nowhere on the clip do I see him handling any records or the turntables 
> even turning.
>
> I was back at my college for a reunion at the end of May and I spun a 
> short set in the disco. The kid who was doing the technical stuff says 
> that they are thinking of getting rid of the turntables because no one 
> ever uses them. All of us older DJs were shocked. Some of them used most 
> or all CDs, but all of us have vinyl and play it.
>
> The kid told us that no one even uses the CD players anymore - they all 
> just bring in their laptops, plug them in to the mixer, and hit play on 
> iTunes. That is a sad state of affairs in my opinion.
>
> I think my original comment was about the fact that it looks like Josh 
> is not using any vinyl - is this common among DJs these days?
>
> Mary Morris wrote:
>   
>> from Ovum Recordings press release ...
>>
>> < Josh Wink will be at Fluid this Wednesday night for his final Last
>> Wednesday appearance of the Summer.  Josh will be unable to play in July
>> and August as he is doing his first long term residency in Ibiza at the
>> legendary Circo Loco party at DC10. Come out and say Bon Voyage as Josh
>> embarks on a summer tour that will take him all over Europe.  Go check out
>> www.ovum-rec.com  or www.myspace.com/ovumrecordings
>> to see Josh's upcoming schedule.  Check out these clips from this past
>> weekend in Montreal to see what is in store for you when catching up with
>> Mr. Wink
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqXE5xjYZoY
>>
>> This plans on being a big summer for Ovum as Chymera "Umbrella" and Shlomi
>> Aber "Freakside" continue to make a stir.  If you haven't bought a copy yet
>> what are you waiting for.  We are also about to start promo on the latest
>> from Tom Pooks "Trouble", which is already causing a huge stir and a new EP
>> from Taho that has been one of Josh's biggest records on the road!  We will
>> also be launching a new comp series this fall, so get ready for big things.
>>
>> Happy Trails,
>> Ovum >
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Do they buy the music on CD or do they buy it on vinyl and record it to 
CD? Back when I was actively spinning and buying records you couldn't 
get new stuff on CD until like a year or more after it was released on 
vinyl, if it made it to a CD compilation. Of course that was before MP3s 
and the web and all of that.

CDs are more portable but I just love the sound and feel and smell of 
vinyl. If I was working as a DJ I might use CDs for the convenience, but 
for me personally, I just don't like them. They sound "thin" to me.

Mary Morris wrote:
> hi Eric, i think it's become pretty common.  i asked Christopher Lawrence
> when he was in baltimore for Starscape and he said as much as he loves
> vinyl, he's 100 percent cds now.  part of the reason was that he had back
> surgery in april.  Dieselboy spins mostly cds, as does AK1200 ... mary
>
> Eric said:
>
> < I was looking at this clip and it looks like he is playing on CDs?
> Nowhere on the clip do I see him handling any records or the turntables
> even turning.
>
> I was back at my college for a reunion at the end of May and I spun a
> short set in the disco. The kid who was doing the technical stuff says
> that they are thinking of getting rid of the turntables because no one
> ever uses them. All of us older DJs were shocked. Some of them used most
> or all CDs, but all of us have vinyl and play it.
>
> The kid told us that no one even uses the CD players anymore - they all
> just bring in their laptops, plug them in to the mixer, and hit play on
> iTunes. That is a sad state of affairs in my opinion.
>
> I think my original comment was about the fact that it looks like Josh
> is not using any vinyl - is this common among DJs these days? >
>
> Mary Morris wrote:
>   
>> from Ovum Recordings press release ...
>>
>> < Josh Wink will be at Fluid this Wednesday night for his final Last
>> Wednesday appearance of the Summer.  Josh will be unable to play in July
>> and August as he is doing his first long term residency in Ibiza at the
>> legendary Circo Loco party at DC10. Come out and say Bon Voyage as Josh
>> embarks on a summer tour that will take him all over Europe.  Go check
>>     
> out
>   
>> www.ovum-rec.com  or www.myspace.com/ovumrecordings
>> to see Josh's upcoming schedule.  Check out these clips from this past
>> weekend in Montreal to see what is in store for you when catching up with
>> Mr. Wink
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqXE5xjYZoY
>>
>> This plans on being a big summer for Ovum as Chymera "Umbrella" and
>>     
> Shlomi
>   
>> Aber "Freakside" continue to make a stir.  If you haven't bought a copy
>>     
> yet
>   
>> what are you waiting for.  We are also about to start promo on the latest
>> from Tom Pooks "Trouble", which is already causing a huge stir and a new
>>     
> EP
>   
>> from Taho that has been one of Josh's biggest records on the road!  We
>>     
> will
>   
>> also be launching a new comp series this fall, so get ready for big
>>     
> things.
>   
>> Happy Trails,
>> Ovum >
>>     
>
>   


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when Dieselboy was in baltimore in march he told me about a new tune
(Fucking OD) (which will be on his upcoming mix-cd Substance D) by Demo
that he was really excited about and planned to open his set with that he
had just received and downloaded before coming to the club, Sonar, so it
sounded like he downloaded it and burned it onto a cd on his laptop.

< Do they buy the music on CD or do they buy it on vinyl and record it to
CD? Back when I was actively spinning and buying records you couldn't get
new stuff on CD until like a year or more after it was released on vinyl,
if it made it to a CD compilation. Of course that was before MP3s and the
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for me personally, I just don't like them. They sound "thin" to me. >

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hello Eric, back to what you said here ...

< I was back at my college for a reunion at the end of May and I spun a
short set in the disco. The kid who was doing the technical stuff says
that they are thinking of getting rid of the turntables because no one
ever uses them. All of us older DJs were shocked. Some of them used most
or all CDs, but all of us have vinyl and play it.

The kid told us that no one even uses the CD players anymore - they all
just bring in their laptops, plug them in to the mixer, and hit play on
iTunes. That is a sad state of affairs in my opinion. >

do you think it's kind of like the difference between a true beat-matching
DJ and a "DJ" who just plays records without beat-matching?  i mean, that
new technology seems to allow everyone the ability to be an instant "DJ" -
not a real one like you are, but like a wedding reception / bar mitzvah
type dj?  in which case, the state of affairs isn't necessarily sadder than
it used to be?

i'm not a dj so this is just speculation for me.  it just occurred to me
that some of what you were saying isn't related to the vinyl vs. cd state
of affairs.

i am totally in the dark re:  what Tom Noe was talking about, but i think
Craze uses Final Scratch ...

interesting times for you real djs, aren't they?

mary

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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Josh Wink's last wednesday night (6/27) at fluid for th e summer ...

Which "DJs" do you mean?

Generally, I see a lot of Ableton and Serato on the laptops, and CDs
filling up a lot of where vinyl used to be as well.  Digital media is
just much easier, and ends justify the means.

-D

On 6/27/07, Eric <rave@skooch.com> wrote:
> If they were playing music that they had composed themselves I would
> have no problem with it. Or even if they were doing manipulation of the
> MP3s or anything that involved creativity or effort.
>
> What I was told that the "DJs" do these days is they just load up
> iTunes, plug in the laptop, hit play and then leave the booth. They set
> up their playlist before hand so they are not needed once they hit "Play."
>
> I would be pretty OK with it if it was their own music but loading up a
> list of downloaded MP3s seems a bit weak to me. I probably should have
> been a bit more clear about that.
>
>
> deknow@netzero.net wrote:
> > ...i'm not so sure i'd rather hear a dj "play" records that were purchased than a "composer" presenting music they had made themselves.
> >
> > of course, i think that just about anyone who cares to do a live performance with a laptop can do more than press "play" on a recording....abelton live allows for much more interactivity with almost no work.
> >
> > deknow
> >
> > -- Eric <rave@skooch.com> wrote:
> > I was looking at this clip and it looks like he is playing on CDs?
> > Nowhere on the clip do I see him handling any records or the turntables
> > even turning.
> >
> > I was back at my college for a reunion at the end of May and I spun a
> > short set in the disco. The kid who was doing the technical stuff says
> > that they are thinking of getting rid of the turntables because no one
> > ever uses them. All of us older DJs were shocked. Some of them used most
> > or all CDs, but all of us have vinyl and play it.
> >
> > The kid told us that no one even uses the CD players anymore - they all
> > just bring in their laptops, plug them in to the mixer, and hit play on
> > iTunes. That is a sad state of affairs in my opinion.
> >
> > I think my original comment was about the fact that it looks like Josh
> > is not using any vinyl - is this common among DJs these days?
> >
> > Mary Morris wrote:
> >
> >> from Ovum Recordings press release ...
> >>
> >> < Josh Wink will be at Fluid this Wednesday night for his final Last
> >> Wednesday appearance of the Summer.  Josh will be unable to play in July
> >> and August as he is doing his first long term residency in Ibiza at the
> >> legendary Circo Loco party at DC10. Come out and say Bon Voyage as Josh
> >> embarks on a summer tour that will take him all over Europe.  Go check out
> >> www.ovum-rec.com  or www.myspace.com/ovumrecordings
> >> to see Josh's upcoming schedule.  Check out these clips from this past
> >> weekend in Montreal to see what is in store for you when catching up with
> >> Mr. Wink
> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqXE5xjYZoY
> >>
> >> This plans on being a big summer for Ovum as Chymera "Umbrella" and Shlomi
> >> Aber "Freakside" continue to make a stir.  If you haven't bought a copy yet
> >> what are you waiting for.  We are also about to start promo on the latest
> >> from Tom Pooks "Trouble", which is already causing a huge stir and a new EP
> >> from Taho that has been one of Josh's biggest records on the road!  We will
> >> also be launching a new comp series this fall, so get ready for big things.
> >>
> >> Happy Trails,
> >> Ovum >
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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Josh Wink's last wednesday night (6/27) at fluid for
 the summer ...

Yes, that is exactly the difference. I wouldn't even go so far as to 
compare these people to wedding DJs as I have known some pretty good 
wedding DJs. This has nothing to do with CD vs. vinyl. I was just 
complaining about how the kids these days hit play on a laptop and call 
themselves a DJ.

The CD vs. vinyl thing was completely separate.

Serrato is comparable to Final Scratch. They do the same thing.

> do you think it's kind of like the difference between a true beat-matching
> DJ and a "DJ" who just plays records without beat-matching?  i mean, that
> new technology seems to allow everyone the ability to be an instant "DJ" -
> not a real one like you are, but like a wedding reception / bar mitzvah
> type dj?  in which case, the state of affairs isn't necessarily sadder than
> it used to be?
>
> i'm not a dj so this is just speculation for me.  it just occurred to me
> that some of what you were saying isn't related to the vinyl vs. cd state
> of affairs.
>
> i am totally in the dark re:  what Tom Noe was talking about, but i think
> Craze uses Final Scratch ...
>
> interesting times for you real djs, aren't they?
>
> mary
>
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Agreed. Who gives a shit about an iPod DJ? It takes talent to play out, late 
at night, and transport a crowd to a good place; namely,

1) a squishy, emotional, "left handed" ability to know good music, and
2) razor sharp eye-hand coordination to twiddle knobs and discs, with
3) little fear of performing in front of folks.

Further, the "live" relationship between the crowd and the DJ isn't hidden. 
Its literally in your face. So anyone who gets up there and pushes a single 
button at the start and end of their set has ther rep immediately run out of 
raveytown on a rail. As to Deknow's point about a DJ playing others' music 
vs. a composer presenting his own, one can split the difference. For 
example, I would practice my set repeatedly before I played out, working 
hard to find mixes that created more together than what the 2 songs added up 
to on their own. IMO, art is a moving target that can be hit or missed with 
more than one instrument.

James E

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> Which "DJs" do you mean?
>
> Generally, I see a lot of Ableton and Serato on the laptops, and CDs
> filling up a lot of where vinyl used to be as well.  Digital media is
> just much easier, and ends justify the means.
>
> -D
>
> On 6/27/07, Eric <rave@skooch.com> wrote:
>> If they were playing music that they had composed themselves I would
>> have no problem with it. Or even if they were doing manipulation of the
>> MP3s or anything that involved creativity or effort.
>>
>> What I was told that the "DJs" do these days is they just load up
>> iTunes, plug in the laptop, hit play and then leave the booth. They set
>> up their playlist before hand so they are not needed once they hit 
>> "Play."
>>
>> I would be pretty OK with it if it was their own music but loading up a
>> list of downloaded MP3s seems a bit weak to me. I probably should have
>> been a bit more clear about that.
>>
>>
>> deknow@netzero.net wrote:
>> > ...i'm not so sure i'd rather hear a dj "play" records that were 
>> > purchased than a "composer" presenting music they had made themselves.
>> >
>> > of course, i think that just about anyone who cares to do a live 
>> > performance with a laptop can do more than press "play" on a 
>> > recording....abelton live allows for much more interactivity with 
>> > almost no work.
>> >
>> > deknow
>> >
>> > -- Eric <rave@skooch.com> wrote:
>> > I was looking at this clip and it looks like he is playing on CDs?
>> > Nowhere on the clip do I see him handling any records or the turntables
>> > even turning.
>> >
>> > I was back at my college for a reunion at the end of May and I spun a
>> > short set in the disco. The kid who was doing the technical stuff says
>> > that they are thinking of getting rid of the turntables because no one
>> > ever uses them. All of us older DJs were shocked. Some of them used 
>> > most
>> > or all CDs, but all of us have vinyl and play it.
>> >
>> > The kid told us that no one even uses the CD players anymore - they all
>> > just bring in their laptops, plug them in to the mixer, and hit play on
>> > iTunes. That is a sad state of affairs in my opinion.
>> >
>> > I think my original comment was about the fact that it looks like Josh
>> > is not using any vinyl - is this common among DJs these days?
>> >
>> > Mary Morris wrote:
>> >
>> >> from Ovum Recordings press release ...
>> >>
>> >> < Josh Wink will be at Fluid this Wednesday night for his final Last
>> >> Wednesday appearance of the Summer.  Josh will be unable to play in 
>> >> July
>> >> and August as he is doing his first long term residency in Ibiza at 
>> >> the
>> >> legendary Circo Loco party at DC10. Come out and say Bon Voyage as 
>> >> Josh
>> >> embarks on a summer tour that will take him all over Europe.  Go check 
>> >> out
>> >> www.ovum-rec.com  or www.myspace.com/ovumrecordings
>> >> to see Josh's upcoming schedule.  Check out these clips from this past
>> >> weekend in Montreal to see what is in store for you when catching up 
>> >> with
>> >> Mr. Wink
>> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqXE5xjYZoY
>> >>
>> >> This plans on being a big summer for Ovum as Chymera "Umbrella" and 
>> >> Shlomi
>> >> Aber "Freakside" continue to make a stir.  If you haven't bought a 
>> >> copy yet
>> >> what are you waiting for.  We are also about to start promo on the 
>> >> latest
>> >> from Tom Pooks "Trouble", which is already causing a huge stir and a 
>> >> new EP
>> >> from Taho that has been one of Josh's biggest records on the road!  We 
>> >> will
>> >> also be launching a new comp series this fall, so get ready for big 
>> >> things.
>> >>
>> >> Happy Trails,
>> >> Ovum >
>> >>
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  I've done some pretty bad mixes in my day but if it's the right song =
at the right time crowds are very forgiving.=20
   Oh and I can do some brilliant mixes and still get girls who come up =
and request me to play "something good". (ARRRGHH!)=20

  Not that I would EVER dj with Itunes. (I once saw a dj who set up two =
laptops with itunes on both) =20
  But he still had the crowd going because he was picking the right =
songs for them. =20
  Who am I to say the night sucked because the DJ used one tool or =
format over the other?   Each mix sounded like a train wreck  or had a =
short pause between them.=20
  The crowd still loved him.   Granted the crowd might have loved him =
more if he could mix... but i'm not sure how much more. =20

  Thomas

  =20
  On 6/27/07, James E <jamje@cox.net> wrote:=20
    Agreed. Who gives a shit about an iPod DJ? It takes talent to play =
out, late
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    1) a squishy, emotional, "left handed" ability to know good music, =
and
    2) razor sharp eye-hand coordination to twiddle knobs and discs, =
with
    3) little fear of performing in front of folks.

    Further, the "live" relationship between the crowd and the DJ isn't =
hidden.=20
    Its literally in your face. So anyone who gets up there and pushes a =
single
    button at the start and end of their set has ther rep immediately =
run out of
    raveytown on a rail. As to Deknow's point about a DJ playing others' =
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    example, I would practice my set repeatedly before I played out, =
working
    hard to find mixes that created more together than what the 2 songs =
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missed with
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    James E

    ----- Original Message -----
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    > Which "DJs" do you mean?
    >
    > Generally, I see a lot of Ableton and Serato on the laptops, and =
CDs
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is=20
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    >
    > -D
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    > On 6/27/07, Eric <rave@skooch.com> wrote:
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would=20
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of the
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    >>
    >> What I was told that the "DJs" do these days is they just load up =

    >> iTunes, plug in the laptop, hit play and then leave the booth. =
They set
    >> up their playlist before hand so they are not needed once they =
hit
    >> "Play."
    >>
    >> I would be pretty OK with it if it was their own music but =
loading up a=20
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have
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    >>
    >>
    >> deknow@netzero.net wrote:
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were
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themselves.
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used=20
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    >> > The kid told us that no one even uses the CD players anymore - =
they all
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play on=20
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final Last=20
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play in
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Ibiza at
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Voyage as
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    >> >> This plans on being a big summer for Ovum as Chymera =
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the
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and a=20
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road!  We
    >> >> will
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    >> >> Happy Trails,
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	for th e summer ...

[Lots of quotes snipped]

I go with the sentiment of "the ends justifying the means" pretty much.  I
absolutely love digital.  While I've never done a digital DJ thing where my
tracks are pre-mixed and sync'd, I don't even really have a problem 
with people
who do that.  Not for techno music.  Is physical beatmatching really that much
of a skill?  Or is it more of just something one used to be required to 
do as a
result of the technology involved?  If a machine can do it for you, giving one
more time to focus on the numerous tracks they are going to bring in and other
ways to play with sound, what's the harm in taking advantage of that?


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 summer ...

hi Eric, thanks! will have a quote for you soon that i think you will like
by Simply Jeff who said at starscape that he tries to do 100 per cent
vinyl, once in a while he throws in a cd (says something about using
ableton when he does cds), and he says something about how the human ear
can only take so much of compressed files being routed through analog
speakers.  it's a good thing it's on tape because he lost me, lol, but i'm
sure you'll get it. ;o)  respectfully, mary :)

< Yes, that is exactly the difference. I wouldn't even go so far as to
compare these people to wedding DJs as I have known some pretty good
wedding DJs. This has nothing to do with CD vs. vinyl. I was just
complaining about how the kids these days hit play on a laptop and call
themselves a DJ.

The CD vs. vinyl thing was completely separate.

Serrato is comparable to Final Scratch. They do the same thing. >

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All I do is dance and party, I've never bothered with turntables or mixing
so I'm gonna throw in my 2 cents from a non-dj/producer perspective.

I don't really care what medium a dj uses although vinyl would be nice for
it's novelty in this digital age.  But one thing I do expect is that the
music be mixed live, the track list cannot be decided ahead of time.  Crowds
are dynamic and so should the tracks being dropped.  If a dj is gonna come
in and play something prerecorded or play a set where the tracks have
already decided on then they can just leave.  I can sit at home and listen
to dj mixes on my cdplayer if I want that.  The dj is there to guide the
people with the music.  If a dj is dropping tracks that don't move the crowd
they need to try something new.  A dj who can read the crowd and drop the
right tracks at the right time is all that matters.

Being in that booth is like being at the steering wheel of a car, if you
have a preplanned route and you run into construction or make a wrong turn
you need to adjust and get back on the right track.

On 6/28/07, lowkey@acidgrave.com <lowkey@acidgrave.com> wrote:
>
> [Lots of quotes snipped]
>
> I go with the sentiment of "the ends justifying the means" pretty much.  I
> absolutely love digital.  While I've never done a digital DJ thing where
> my
> tracks are pre-mixed and sync'd, I don't even really have a problem
> with people
> who do that.  Not for techno music.  Is physical beatmatching really that
> much
> of a skill?  Or is it more of just something one used to be required to
> do as a
> result of the technology involved?  If a machine can do it for you, giving
> one
> more time to focus on the numerous tracks they are going to bring in and
> other
> ways to play with sound, what's the harm in taking advantage of that?
>
>
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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Josh Wink's last wednesday night (6/27) at fluid for th e summer ...

on the same note...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=LDqweK6wBdA

http://www.pacemaker.net/



On Jun 27, 2007, at 6:30 PM, James E wrote:

> http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/iDJ2/
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Tom Noe
>   To: James E
>   Cc: Dean ; ne-raves@hyperreal.org
>   Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 5:56 PM
>   Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Josh Wink's last wednesday night (6/27)  
> at fluid for th e summer ...
>
>
>   I've done some pretty bad mixes in my day but if it's the right  
> song at the right time crowds are very forgiving.
>    Oh and I can do some brilliant mixes and still get girls who  
> come up and request me to play "something good". (ARRRGHH!)
>
>   Not that I would EVER dj with Itunes. (I once saw a dj who set up  
> two laptops with itunes on both)
>   But he still had the crowd going because he was picking the right  
> songs for them.
>   Who am I to say the night sucked because the DJ used one tool or  
> format over the other?   Each mix sounded like a train wreck  or  
> had a short pause between them.
>   The crowd still loved him.   Granted the crowd might have loved  
> him more if he could mix... but i'm not sure how much more.
>
>   Thomas
>
>
>   On 6/27/07, James E <jamje@cox.net> wrote:
>     Agreed. Who gives a shit about an iPod DJ? It takes talent to  
> play out, late
>     at night, and transport a crowd to a good place; namely,
>
>     1) a squishy, emotional, "left handed" ability to know good  
> music, and
>     2) razor sharp eye-hand coordination to twiddle knobs and  
> discs, with
>     3) little fear of performing in front of folks.
>
>     Further, the "live" relationship between the crowd and the DJ  
> isn't hidden.
>     Its literally in your face. So anyone who gets up there and  
> pushes a single
>     button at the start and end of their set has ther rep  
> immediately run out of
>     raveytown on a rail. As to Deknow's point about a DJ playing  
> others' music
>     vs. a composer presenting his own, one can split the  
> difference. For
>     example, I would practice my set repeatedly before I played  
> out, working
>     hard to find mixes that created more together than what the 2  
> songs added up
>     to on their own. IMO, art is a moving target that can be hit or  
> missed with
>     more than one instrument.
>
>     James E
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: "Dean" < talldean@gmail.com>
>     Cc: <ne-raves@hyperreal.org>
>     Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 4:07 PM
>     Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Josh Wink's last wednesday night (6/27)  
> at fluid for
>     th e summer ...
>
>
>> Which "DJs" do you mean?
>>
>> Generally, I see a lot of Ableton and Serato on the laptops, and CDs
>> filling up a lot of where vinyl used to be as well.  Digital media is
>> just much easier, and ends justify the means.
>>
>> -D
>>
>> On 6/27/07, Eric <rave@skooch.com> wrote:
>>> If they were playing music that they had composed themselves I would
>>> have no problem with it. Or even if they were doing manipulation  
>>> of the
>>> MP3s or anything that involved creativity or effort.
>>>
>>> What I was told that the "DJs" do these days is they just load up
>>> iTunes, plug in the laptop, hit play and then leave the booth.  
>>> They set
>>> up their playlist before hand so they are not needed once they hit
>>> "Play."
>>>
>>> I would be pretty OK with it if it was their own music but  
>>> loading up a
>>> list of downloaded MP3s seems a bit weak to me. I probably should  
>>> have
>>> been a bit more clear about that.
>>>
>>>
>>> deknow@netzero.net wrote:
>>>> ...i'm not so sure i'd rather hear a dj "play" records that were
>>>> purchased than a "composer" presenting music they had made  
>>>> themselves.
>>>>
>>>> of course, i think that just about anyone who cares to do a live
>>>> performance with a laptop can do more than press "play" on a
>>>> recording....abelton live allows for much more interactivity with
>>>> almost no work.
>>>>
>>>> deknow
>>>>
>>>> -- Eric <rave@skooch.com> wrote:
>>>> I was looking at this clip and it looks like he is playing on CDs?
>>>> Nowhere on the clip do I see him handling any records or the  
>>>> turntables
>>>> even turning.
>>>>
>>>> I was back at my college for a reunion at the end of May and I  
>>>> spun a
>>>> short set in the disco. The kid who was doing the technical  
>>>> stuff says
>>>> that they are thinking of getting rid of the turntables because  
>>>> no one
>>>> ever uses them. All of us older DJs were shocked. Some of them used
>>>> most
>>>> or all CDs, but all of us have vinyl and play it.
>>>>
>>>> The kid told us that no one even uses the CD players anymore -  
>>>> they all
>>>> just bring in their laptops, plug them in to the mixer, and hit  
>>>> play on
>>>> iTunes. That is a sad state of affairs in my opinion.
>>>>
>>>> I think my original comment was about the fact that it looks  
>>>> like Josh
>>>> is not using any vinyl - is this common among DJs these days?
>>>>
>>>> Mary Morris wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> from Ovum Recordings press release ...
>>>>>
>>>>> < Josh Wink will be at Fluid this Wednesday night for his final  
>>>>> Last
>>>>> Wednesday appearance of the Summer.  Josh will be unable to  
>>>>> play in
>>>>> July
>>>>> and August as he is doing his first long term residency in  
>>>>> Ibiza at
>>>>> the
>>>>> legendary Circo Loco party at DC10. Come out and say Bon Voyage as
>>>>> Josh
>>>>> embarks on a summer tour that will take him all over Europe.   
>>>>> Go check
>>>>> out
>>>>> www.ovum-rec.com  or www.myspace.com/ovumrecordings
>>>>> to see Josh's upcoming schedule.  Check out these clips from  
>>>>> this past
>>>>> weekend in Montreal to see what is in store for you when  
>>>>> catching up
>>>>> with
>>>>> Mr. Wink
>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqXE5xjYZoY
>>>>>
>>>>> This plans on being a big summer for Ovum as Chymera "Umbrella"  
>>>>> and
>>>>> Shlomi
>>>>> Aber "Freakside" continue to make a stir.  If you haven't bought a
>>>>> copy yet
>>>>> what are you waiting for.  We are also about to start promo on the
>>>>> latest
>>>>> from Tom Pooks "Trouble", which is already causing a huge stir  
>>>>> and a
>>>>> new EP
>>>>> from Taho that has been one of Josh's biggest records on the  
>>>>> road!  We
>>>>> will
>>>>> also be launching a new comp series this fall, so get ready for  
>>>>> big
>>>>> things.
>>>>>
>>>>> Happy Trails,
>>>>> Ovum >
>>>>>
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Subject: [ne-raves] iPod battle

I did run into a guy hyping this as the "new" alternative... 
http://www.numark.com/idj
whatever.

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Subject: [ne-raves] NYC: PS1 Art Center - Warm Up

It's back...=0A=0AWarm Up 2007=0A=0A=0A=0AP.S.1's SUMMER MUSIC SERIES KICKS=
 OFF JUNE 30=0A=0A=0A=0AEvery Saturday, 3:00 to 9:00 p.m. June 30 - Septemb=
er 1, 2007=0A=0A=0A=0A P.S.1 Contemporary Art Center is pleased to announce=
 Warm Up 2007, the critically acclaimed curated series of live music and DJ=
 acts that has become one of New York=92s most exciting and anticipated sum=
mer events. The backdrop of this year=92s Warm Up is Liquid Sky by Los Ange=
les-based firm Ball-Nogues, winner of the 2007 MoMA/P.S.1 Young Architects =
Program.   =0A=0A=0A=0AWarm Up 2007 features a new curatorial team led by D=
avid Weinstein, Jason Drummond, and Zach Layton and promises a summer-long =
adventure into the wild, the unexpected, and the dangerously danceable. Eac=
h Saturday, music and performances will revolve around a theme or guest hos=
t. Objektivity, Tummy Touch, Rong, DFA and other music labels have been inv=
ited to assemble six-hour programs featuring their most exhilarating artist=
s. Added into the weekly mix is challenging new work from innovators in aud=
io technology, new instruments, new media, and experimental sounds. =0A=0A=
=0A=0A=93Warm Up was born 11 years ago as a P.S.1 project fueled by a hunge=
r for the new and adventurous music bubbling up around town,=94 said Warm U=
p organizer David Weinstein. =93This year we deliberately returned to that =
model by exploring the many new clubs, concert halls and media centers duri=
ng one of the most active and exciting New York seasons in a decade. In ord=
er to bring a challenging, compelling, and entertaining program to P.S.1, w=
e have consulted with the most original producers covering the whole musica=
l spectrum in New York from noise and ambient, to hip hop and punk, to clas=
sical and non-western genres.=94 =0A=0A=0A=0APast Warm Up live performances=
 and DJ sets have included renowned international acts, such as Body & Soul=
, DJ Harvey, Groove Collective, Juan Atkins, Stacey Pullen, Lovebug Starski=
, MU, Monolake, Afrika Bambaataa, Mad Professor, Richie Hawtin, Trevor Jack=
son, DJ Craze, Charlie Dark, Vikter Duplaix, Fischerspooner, Frederic Galli=
ano, Kid Koala, Arto Lindsay, Scissor Sisters, Jeannie Hopper, Ursula Rucke=
r, Derrick May, Swayzak, Luke Vibert, X-Press 2, Danny Wang, and many more.=
 =0A=0A=0A=0AThe music series, produced by P.S.1 Director of Operations Ton=
y Guererro, was conceived in 1997 as a summer-long dance party to attract c=
rowds to Long Island City, Queens, and P.S.1. It now draws thousands of loc=
als and international visitors every Saturday for a merging of exciting mus=
ic, contemporary art, and fascinating people-watching. It has received crit=
ical attention both stateside and worldwide. Time Out New York readers vote=
d Warm Up the =93best club=94 in New York City, and The Observer (UK) ranke=
d it #10 of =93The 20 Hottest Beach Parties in the World.=94  =0A=0A=0A=0AW=
arm Up will also be streamed live on Art Radio WPS1.org. Simply visit www.w=
ps1.org every Saturday, June 30 through September 1, from 3:00 p.m. to 9:00=
 p.m. EST and enjoy full access to the music, along with on-the-spot artist=
 and DJ interviews. The broadcasts will be archived on WPS1.org. =0A=0A=0A=
=0ALineup=0A=0A June 30 =0A=0ADFA hosts with Invisible Conga People (live) =
=0A=0ATim & Tim (Tim Goldsworthy and Tim Sweeney) =0A=0AThe Juan Maclean (D=
J Set) =0A=0AShit Robot aka Marcus Lambkin =0A=0Aplus BLARVUSTER (Matthew W=
elch)   =0A=0A=0A=0AJuly 7  =0A=0AA Touch of Class hosts with =0A=0AA Touch=
 of Class (DJ set) =0A=0ALee Douglas (Rong Music) =0A=0AServices (Live) =0A=
=0AKudu (Live) =0A=0APreacher and the Knife (live) =0A=0Aplus Bubblyfish/Tr=
istan Perich (live)   =0A=0A=0A=0AJuly 14: agnes b. presents . . .=0A=0APon=
i Hoax =0A=0AThe Penelopes =0A=0AFrustration =0A=0AMorpheus =0A=0AJB Wiz =
=0A=0AEx Nihilo Crew =0A=0APlus Marina Rosenfeld and Zeena Parkins   =0A=0A=
=0A=0AJuly 21 =0A=0AObjektivity hosts with =0A=0ADennis Ferrer =0A=0AThe Ma=
rtinez Brothers =0A=0A+special guest live performances =0A=0APlus Eric Sing=
er=92s LEMUR (League of Electronic Musical Urban Robots)   =0A=0A=0A=0AJuly=
 28 =0A=0ATummy Touch brings you =0A=0ADJ's: Ursula 1000, Tim "Love" Lee, a=
nd         Ramon Santana =0A=0Awith live acts Wunmi and Unicornicopia   =0A=
=0A=0A=0AAugust 4 =0A=0ATBA=0A=0A=0A=0A August 11 =0A=0ATrouble Man Unlimit=
ed/Italians Do It Better bring you =0A=0AGlass Candy (live)=0A=0A Mike Simo=
netti + a special guest DJ =0A=0Aplus Elliot Sharp (live)=0A=0A=0A=0A Augus=
t 18 =0A=0ARong Music host with =0A=0ADJ Spun =0A=0ABen Cook (aka Stranger)=
 =0A=0AEric Duncan (Rub n Tug) =0A=0AWoolfy Projections (live) =0A=0Aplus D=
ewanatron (Leon and Brian Dewan, live) & Ray Sweeten and Zach Layton (live)=
   =0A=0A=0A=0AAugust 25 =0A=0AEscort (live) =0A=0AFelix Dickinson (Cynic, =
Urban Myth, Bastedos; London, England) =0A=0Aplus LoVid (live) and David Li=
nton (live)   =0A=0A=0A=0ASeptember 1 =0A=0ATBA=0A=0A=0A=0AHours and Direct=
ions =0A=0AOpening June 30, Warm Up 2007 will be held for ten consecutive w=
eeks, each Saturday through September 1, from 3:00 p.m. to 9:00 p.m. P.S.1 =
Contemporary Art Center is located at 22-25 Jackson Avenue at 46th Avenue i=
n Long Island City, Queens, across the Queensboro Bridge from midtown Manha=
ttan. It is easily accessible by bus and subway. Traveling by subway, visit=
ors should take either the E or V to 23 Street-Ely Avenue (note that the V =
does not run on weekends); the 7 to 45 Road-Courthouse Square; or the G to =
Court Square or 21 Street-Van Alst. Visitors may also take the Q67 bus to J=
ackson and 46th Avenues or the B61 to Jackson Avenue. Visitors using public=
 transportation are advised to check the MTA Weekend Service Advisory.=0A=
=0A=0A=0AAdmission  =0A=0AOn Warm Up Saturdays, from 2:00 p.m. to 9:00 p.m.=
, the admission fee to P.S.1 and Warm Up is $10. Included in this price is =
access to all exhibitions and Warm Up. During this time, P.S.1 does not off=
er the $5 suggested admission or any other discounted admission rate. On Wa=
rm Up Saturdays, from 12:00 p.m. to 2:00 p.m., museum admission is free. =
=0A=0A=0A=0AAdvance tickets for all dates are on sale at all New York City =
agn=E8s b. boutiques, located at 1063 Madison Avenue, 13 E. 16th Street, an=
d 103 Greene Street. =0A=0A=0A=0AYoung Architects Program  =0A=0A2007 marks=
 the eighth annual MoMA/P.S.1 Young Architects Program, a competition that =
gives emerging architects the opportunity to realize an outdoor environment=
 designed to host the Warm Up series. This year=92s project, Liquid Sky, by=
 the Los Angeles-based firm Ball-Nogues, features a canopy of tinted, Mylar=
 petals that will immerse the viewer in kaleidoscopic patterns of colored l=
ight. Since 1998, artists and architects including Gelatin, Philip Johnson,=
 SHoP, ROY, William Massie, EMERGENT/Tom Wiscombe, Xefirotarch, and OBRA ha=
ve transformed P.S.1=92s courtyard into an urban beach with works of intera=
ctive architecture and sculpture that have inspired both critics and audien=
ces alike.=0A=0A=0A=0A =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A       =0A________________________=
____________________________________________________________=0AGot a little=
 couch potato? =0ACheck out fun summer activities for kids.=0Ahttp://search=
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a new alternative to keeping the uninclined out of the DJ booth?
thanks.

""transforming the iPod from a personal music player into a source playback
device.""

riight.

On 6/30/07, Joey Daytona <joey@joeydaytona.com> wrote:
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> I did run into a guy hyping this as the "new" alternative...
> http://www.numark.com/idj
> whatever.
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Repost 4 D & B <3 :D
7.05.07 NYC D & B 2: JUNGLE INDEPEN DANCE! SENSES, PAUL C...
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Ph (001+) 1 917 977 0266
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Subject: [ne-raves] Brooklyn dnb breaks tonight

-I am forwarding from another list to save time - enjoy
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Well for people bound for Brooklyn or stuck in Brooklyn toinight
Saturday - check these two events -

3rd Ward - Their smallish parties are getting better btw - last week the hip hop
was pure and the break dancers honest, true and top notch and Jason BK did one
helll of a set to close out the night - proper techno IMHO
for tonight it is Antistrot 
http://www.3rdwardbrooklyn.org/news
Opening Reception:Saturday June 30th, 2007 7-10pm

---- even better go here to this one --------------->>
http://www.breakfastscienceboard.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=49238&highlight=survivalists

This event small and I'm sure quite good - done up by one of the best dancers I
have met in NYC in past couple of years - she has the true spirit of all this -
the true spirit that guides all electronic music but if you don't follow my
intent on this - just come out and enjoy - you know the the people below and
the quality - so represent...

DJ ODI –(NYC)-Drum n Bass(Digital Confusion,Legacy NYC)

W MC TC IZ –(NYC)America’s Don MC(KonKrete Jungle,ZULU Kings,Hipstep Massive)

DJ ENDO- (Mass)-New School~ Tear out Breaks Set(Future Sound of
Breaks,myspace.com/djEndo)

MENTALLY–ILL (DNBC,MassiveAudio) /HOKILLA (DNBC,Extreme
Terror)/J-RABBIT(DNBC,Vitus,Beatz Annonymous)
D-n-B(ALBANY,UPSTATE,NYC- first time ever!!!2 hr 3way tag

BIG EARS (DNBC,hardmind,bassbot, team ewok) –VS- METAPHYSIKL (Skys the Limit,and
many more) –(NYC)- Drum –n- BreakS

CAST THE SKY – LIVE PA* DnB (Cyber Groove)
Dj Magenta- (Dnb) (understand inc, werdalot)

**SAT JUNE 30- * * 8:30-4am*
*$5 before 10-9 after$**

‘The Place’-269 Norman Ave BK* * G-Nassau

THIS IS A COMPLETELY THEMED EVENT FULLY EQUPIT WITH:
**Dnb and Breaks**
**Good Vibes*
**Food*
**live graffitti Art*
**Rooftop*
**Drum N Bass/breaks**

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