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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] HQ May Day Sets

If bandwidth is a problem, these are mirrored for a week at:
http://www.talldean.com/music/acidgrave/

On 4/30/07, lowkey@acidgrave.com <lowkey@acidgrave.com> wrote:
> These are the high quality downloads.  They are currently 256 kbit,
> 44.1khz. The
> links will still work, but they will change to half quality after midnight EST
> tonight.  Please right-click and save these rather than streaming them.  They
> have the potential to eat through all my bandwidth.
>
> http://www.acidgrave.com/mayday/001-DJ_Sascha-Blackkat_Mayday_2007.mp3
> http://www.acidgrave.com/mayday/002-DJ_Balls-Blackkat_Mayday_2007.mp3
> http://www.acidgrave.com/mayday/003-Amok_vs_Madaro-Blackkat_Mayday_2007.mp3
> http://www.acidgrave.com/mayday/004-DJ_Chrome-Blackkat_Mayday_2007.mp3
> http://www.acidgrave.com/mayday/005-Jason_BK-Blackkat_Mayday_2007.mp3
> http://www.acidgrave.com/mayday/006-Missy_Galore-Blackkat_Mayday_2007.mp3
> http://www.acidgrave.com/mayday/007-Collin_Strange-Blackkat_Mayday_2007.mp3
> http://www.acidgrave.com/mayday/008-Atomic_Babies-Blackkat_Mayday_2007.mp3
> http://www.acidgrave.com/mayday/009-Norman_Siegel-Blackkat_Mayday_2007.mp3
> http://www.acidgrave.com/mayday/010-DJ_Chrome-Extra_Set-Blackkat_Mayday_2007.mp3
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Subject: [ne-raves] Re: [dcraves] Re: [ne-raves] HQ May Day Sets

That's what wget gave me?

On 5/1/07, Eric Phipps <ephipps@gmail.com> wrote:
> i'm curious about
>
> [SND] 006-Missy_Galore-Bla..> 30-Apr-2007 20:08   1.6M
>
> &
>
> [SND] 009-Norman_Siegel-Bl..> 30-Apr-2007 20:22   7.3M
>
> those are some short recordings
>
> On 5/1/07, Dean <talldean@gmail.com> wrote:
> > If bandwidth is a problem, these are mirrored for a week at:
> > http://www.talldean.com/music/acidgrave/
> >
> > On 4/30/07, lowkey@acidgrave.com <lowkey@acidgrave.com> wrote:
> > > These are the high quality downloads.  They are currently 256 kbit,
> > > 44.1khz. The
> > > links will still work, but they will change to half quality after midnight EST
> > > tonight.  Please right-click and save these rather than streaming them.  They
> > > have the potential to eat through all my bandwidth.
> > >
> > > http://www.acidgrave.com/mayday/001-DJ_Sascha-Blackkat_Mayday_2007.mp3
> > > http://www.acidgrave.com/mayday/002-DJ_Balls-Blackkat_Mayday_2007.mp3
> > > http://www.acidgrave.com/mayday/003-Amok_vs_Madaro-Blackkat_Mayday_2007.mp3
> > > http://www.acidgrave.com/mayday/004-DJ_Chrome-Blackkat_Mayday_2007.mp3
> > > http://www.acidgrave.com/mayday/005-Jason_BK-Blackkat_Mayday_2007.mp3
> > > http://www.acidgrave.com/mayday/006-Missy_Galore-Blackkat_Mayday_2007.mp3
> > > http://www.acidgrave.com/mayday/007-Collin_Strange-Blackkat_Mayday_2007.mp3
> > > http://www.acidgrave.com/mayday/008-Atomic_Babies-Blackkat_Mayday_2007.mp3
> > > http://www.acidgrave.com/mayday/009-Norman_Siegel-Blackkat_Mayday_2007.mp3
> > > http://www.acidgrave.com/mayday/010-DJ_Chrome-Extra_Set-Blackkat_Mayday_2007.mp3
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Subject: [ne-raves] Sat May 19 - KODE 9, SHACKLETON, & BADAWI at DUB WAR

Saturday, May 19 2007
It's a night of heavyweight UK DUBSTEP at LOVE, and it goes til 6am
for all basshead zombies in the place.....

DUB WAR RIDS THE WORLD OF THE EVIL CURSE OF THE HYPERDUB VIRUS

featuring:

KODE 9 (Hyperdub, UK)
Live set + DJ set

SHACKLETON (Skull Disco, UK)
First and last time ever in North America so don't front

BADAWI (ROIR, Agriculture NYC)
feat Seraphim (MC)
Original NYC dub soldier debuting original dubstep material

+
JOE NICE (Dub War, Gourmetbeats, Baltimore)
DAVE Q (Dub War, NYC)
SECRET AGENT GEL (Dub War, NYC)
ORSON (Version, Germany)
SECKLE (Dub War, NYC)
& MC JUAKALI (Dub War, Sub Swara NYC)

9pm - 6am
LOVE, 179 MacDougal St at 8th St
21+ (bring id)
$5 before 10pm / $10 before midnight / $15 after
Drink specials + CD giveaways from Breakbeat Science, ROIR, and Dub
War Recordings

+
This will be a featured event as part of the REMIX Hotel series, and
the first 50 Remix badgeholders get in free before midnight. More
info: www.remixhotel.com.

+
info: www.dubwarnyc.com
www.myspace.com/dubwarnyc

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Subject: [ne-raves] NYC - Fwd: PURE FIRE 5/1 - free

> 3. thank god its fucking tuesday
>     Posted by: "smallchange" jdier1@earthlink.net stylee666
>     Date: Mon Apr 30, 2007 12:39 pm ((PDT))
> 
> Yo kiddies...your uncle $meach $¢napps checking 
> in.  Would you like a candy bar?  How 'bout 
> playstation at my place?  Just jump in the back 
> of the van...that's it.  Your parents?  They 
> won't mind at all.  In fact I saw your mommy the 
> other day.  Yesterday, as I went out of the house 
> I saw a body lying down quiet as a mouse.  Lying 
> face down in the sewer I got up closer and 
> realized that I knew her. All her organs coming 
> from her inside slashed up skin sliced up hide. 
> Turned her over and saw the tire tracks on her 
> head.  That's when I realized she was dead.  I 
> saw your mommy and your mommy's dead.  I saw your 
> mommy and your mommy's dead.
> 
> Wow.  Kinda cryptic, even for me.  What?  What 
> was that?  You want off ze list?  Jeez, didn't 
> you little punks ever listen to suicidal 
> tendencies?  Oy vey.  Fine, I'll chop ya ala 
> Paris is Burning.  Willie Ninja RIP.
> 
> So to make a short story way too long and morbid 
> (too late) I got a quickie update for tomorrow. 
> PURE FIRE, one of the last more twisted little 
> musical happenings in this gentrifying 
> stripmall-land of a city, was recently homeless 
> after rent hikes took a wrecking ball to the 
> beloved Tonic/Subtonic space.  Thru a little 
> wheelin' and dealin' the fine establishment APT 
> has agreed to take on the Pure Fire party, 
> perhaps on a monthly basis.  APT, for the 
> sleeping under a rock folks, has a long tradition 
> of forward thinking DJs and music, with very 
> crisp Funktion 1 soundsystem to boot.  We'd like 
> to get some folks outta the fucking haus to make 
> this shit happen on a regular basis.  Yes, even 
> you.  Yes.  I'm talking about you.  Don't hide, I 
> see you!  Punk.
> 
> I'll be joining the esteemed team america of 
> residents, Crito, who runs the Broklyn Beats 
> label, ill breakcore shit and beyond; 
> Reaganomics, a slept on mofo with very stupid 
> skillz and rekkids; Peter Gunn, who's deep crates 
> in grime, dubstep and 60's french garage are not 
> to be tested; N Ron Hubbard, a serious studio 
> head, DJ, VJ, live laptop performer, etc, 
> etc...dude even bakes a mean cake.  As if there 
> wasn't enough chefs in the kitchenette already, 
> we're joined by the one and only DJ /Rupture, 
> recently transplanted from Barcelona, stupid 
> stupid productions and 3 turntable mixes.  And he 
> has a nicer myspace page than us.
> 
> All this and an early open bar.  Get extremely 
> wasted early and $ave!  APT ain't the cheapest 
> spot but you're getting quality chunes on a 
> quality system.  So save a little, those meat 
> packing districts rents aren't cheap, and we need 
> real spaces in NYC, they're disappearing.  Wake 
> up and smell I mean screw the starbucks.  If you 
> want real shit in your town, you gotta come out 
> and support it.
> 
> i.e. ala Mayday yesterday in Union Sq.  Big 
> shouts to the Blackkat crew for keeping this town 
> twisted.  Nice sets all around.  Fuck the caberet 
> laws!
> 
> info for tues:
> 
> Tuesday night, MAY 1, 2007
> Pure Fire has its first ever evening of music at APT in NYC!
> 
> And to launch it off, we have the very special guest
> 
> DJ/Rupture (soot, tigerbeat 6)
> 
> With
> DJ Small Change (WFMU, Rubilad)
> DJ N-RON (undivided),
> Reaganomics,
> Peter Gunn
> Criterion (broklyn beats)
> 
> We also have lined up an open bar from 9-10 with
> Sagatiba (a really nice, high end cachaça). Excellent!
> 
> No cover charge
> 
> -- 
> James Dier aka $mall ¢hange
> http://djsmallchange.com

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Subject: [ne-raves] Re: [dcraves] Re: [ne-raves] HQ May Day Sets

Quoting Eric Phipps <ephipps@gmail.com>:

> i'm curious about
>
> [SND] 006-Missy_Galore-Bla..> 30-Apr-2007 20:08   1.6M
>
> &
>
> [SND] 009-Norman_Siegel-Bl..> 30-Apr-2007 20:22   7.3M
>
> those are some short recordings

They are speeches.  Not very long.


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Subject: [ne-raves] NYC - Fly Life by Tricia Romano (Village Voice)

Wow, this list only seems to exist at the extremes of mass traffic and absolute 
silence. Still got a backlog of list mail -- thanks guys ;P  A bit NYC-centric 
now so others please feel free to jump in (I'm talking to you too Canadian!). 
I'm hardly out and about anymore so here are words from someone far more 
reputable. Take it, Ms Romano.

j'

- - -

Dead Again
http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0715,romano,76313,22.html

Tonic's demise triggers the 15,000th or so 'New York City club life is dying' 
frenzy
by Tricia Romano

[excerpt]
The end is nigh. Again.

How many times have I written this column? A club moves in and makes a 
neighborhood exciting, bringing new residents to the area. The new residents get 
richer, tonier. They buy condos and get mad that the club that introduced them 
to the area in the first place even exists. They cause a commotion, and call 311 
over and over. The club gets harassed out of business. Rinse, wash, repeat.

_______


Sunshine, Underground
http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0717,romano,76464,22.html

Brash DJ seeks audience that actually buys records.ironic Beyonc devotees need 
not apply
by Tricia Romano

[excerpt]
Few things could be more depressing for a local DJ than getting his biggest 
hometown headlining gig to date canceled mere hours before it began. But that's 
what happened to Tommie Sunshine this month on that most cursed of days, Friday 
the 13th. Just two hours before showtime, he got a call that the venue, Pacha, 
had been shut down by the police.

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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] HQ May Day Sets

Nice, Dean. You're mirroring the lo-fi versions right? Working on getting the 
hi-res out. Didn't bother to look initially but it's almost half a meg! Never 
created a torrent but I imagine it would be positively torturous d/ling from me 
at my Verizon allocated speed ~11kB/s. I'm hoping to package it with a few 
accompanying text and photos. If people who managed to get the hi-res version 
yesterday d/led the additional text and photos would they then be able to seed 
the torrent?

Jasper

On Tue, 1 May 2007, Dean wrote:

> If bandwidth is a problem, these are mirrored for a week at:
> http://www.talldean.com/music/acidgrave/
>
> On 4/30/07, lowkey@acidgrave.com <lowkey@acidgrave.com> wrote:
>> These are the high quality downloads.  They are currently 256 kbit,
>> 44.1khz. The
>> links will still work, but they will change to half quality after midnight 
>> EST
>> tonight.  Please right-click and save these rather than streaming them. 
>> They
>> have the potential to eat through all my bandwidth.
>> 
>> http://www.acidgrave.com/mayday/001-DJ_Sascha-Blackkat_Mayday_2007.mp3
>> http://www.acidgrave.com/mayday/002-DJ_Balls-Blackkat_Mayday_2007.mp3
>> http://www.acidgrave.com/mayday/003-Amok_vs_Madaro-Blackkat_Mayday_2007.mp3
>> http://www.acidgrave.com/mayday/004-DJ_Chrome-Blackkat_Mayday_2007.mp3
>> http://www.acidgrave.com/mayday/005-Jason_BK-Blackkat_Mayday_2007.mp3
>> http://www.acidgrave.com/mayday/006-Missy_Galore-Blackkat_Mayday_2007.mp3
>> http://www.acidgrave.com/mayday/007-Collin_Strange-Blackkat_Mayday_2007.mp3
>> http://www.acidgrave.com/mayday/008-Atomic_Babies-Blackkat_Mayday_2007.mp3
>> http://www.acidgrave.com/mayday/009-Norman_Siegel-Blackkat_Mayday_2007.mp3
>> http://www.acidgrave.com/mayday/010-DJ_Chrome-Extra_Set-Blackkat_Mayday_2007.mp3
>> 
>> 
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Subject: [ne-raves] Re: [dcraves] Re: [ne-raves] HQ May Day Sets

Honestly, I don't know.  Lowkey, can you let me know, and I can grab
the high quality ones to mirror as well if I don't have them already?

On 5/1/07, Legba Carrefour <legba.carrefour@gmail.com> wrote:
> Are these the low res or the hi res versions? I was only able to get
> two of the sets in hi-res because of how slow my connection is and
> would love to get the rest in the same.
>
> On 5/1/07, Dean <talldean@gmail.com> wrote:
> > If bandwidth is a problem, these are mirrored for a week at:
> > http://www.talldean.com/music/acidgrave/
> >
> > On 4/30/07, lowkey@acidgrave.com <lowkey@acidgrave.com> wrote:
> > > These are the high quality downloads.  They are currently 256 kbit,
> > > 44.1khz. The
> > > links will still work, but they will change to half quality after mid=
night EST
> > > tonight.  Please right-click and save these rather than streaming the=
m.  They
> > > have the potential to eat through all my bandwidth.
> > >
> > > http://www.acidgrave.com/mayday/001-DJ_Sascha-Blackkat_Mayday_2007.mp=
3
> > > http://www.acidgrave.com/mayday/002-DJ_Balls-Blackkat_Mayday_2007.mp3
> > > http://www.acidgrave.com/mayday/003-Amok_vs_Madaro-Blackkat_Mayday_20=
07.mp3
> > > http://www.acidgrave.com/mayday/004-DJ_Chrome-Blackkat_Mayday_2007.mp=
3
> > > http://www.acidgrave.com/mayday/005-Jason_BK-Blackkat_Mayday_2007.mp3
> > > http://www.acidgrave.com/mayday/006-Missy_Galore-Blackkat_Mayday_2007=
.mp3
> > > http://www.acidgrave.com/mayday/007-Collin_Strange-Blackkat_Mayday_20=
07.mp3
> > > http://www.acidgrave.com/mayday/008-Atomic_Babies-Blackkat_Mayday_200=
7.mp3
> > > http://www.acidgrave.com/mayday/009-Norman_Siegel-Blackkat_Mayday_200=
7.mp3
> > > http://www.acidgrave.com/mayday/010-DJ_Chrome-Extra_Set-Blackkat_Mayd=
ay_2007.mp3
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] HQ May Day Sets

Don't know why I didn't think of it before. But is there any reason why we can't 
throw these up on archive.org? That cool Low-Key?

Jasper

On Mon, 30 Apr 2007, Jasper wrote:

> On Mon, 30 Apr 2007, lowkey@acidgrave.com wrote:
>
>> These are the high quality downloads.  They are currently 256 kbit, 
>> 44.1khz. The
>> links will still work, but they will change to half quality after midnight 
>> EST
>> tonight.  Please right-click and save these rather than streaming them. 
>> They
>> have the potential to eat through all my bandwidth.
>
> Nice job. Did you record these? What about serving them up as torrents? 
> Actually someone is bound to do that. I could ask Brian about hosting them on 
> Hyperreal.
>
> Jasper
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Subject: [ne-raves] May Day NYC 2007 torrent

May Day NYC 2007 (hi-res 256kbps version)
torrent:
http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3678146/May_Day_NYC_2007

BLACKKAT MAYDAY 2007!
SUNDAY APRIL 29th
2-6 PM
http://www.blackkat.org

UNION SQUARE
1-5 PM!!!!!!! north end

~FREE~!!!
all ages
RAIN or SHINE!!

our 9th year! (and the 20th L.E.S. Squatter Mayday?)

featuring LIVE analog HARDWARE sets by:

ATOMIC BABIES ( http://www.dRUMASHEENZ.com )

The Atomic Babies have been touring and making techno-acid-electro-hardcore
records since the early 90s.  Formerly behind the BML record label family,
Joey Jupiter and The Germ now tour constantly and hold down the DrumasheenZ
label. They have worked with Blackkat since our very first party over 10
year ago; this is their first Mayday performance!


COLLIN STRANGE? (Strange? Music)
first set in NYC in 8 years!

Collin was one of the first (and only!) providers of off-the-margins
electronix records way back in the early 90s at Strange? Records.  He also
played at the first Blackkat party and was the first electronic act to play
at Mayday, back when it was a punk rock show!  He's coming all the way from
Seattle for this exclusive NYC set…Collin can play live improv on analog
gear (read: programming on the fly) like no other we have seen, we can't
wait to see which way he goes!

with
GUEST DJs

SASCHA ( http://www.Flavorpill.net)
DJ BALLS ( http://www.Disorient.tv )

and the BLACKKAT CREW:

AMOK vs. MADARO (www.renegadevirus.org, Waxworks Distro)
CHROME (www.tristatebiodiesel.com )
JASON BK (www.blackkat.org)

playing techno, drum and bass, freetek, breaks, house, hardcore, and ?

and guest speakers:

NORMAN SIEGEL (Civil Rights Attorney)
And
MISSY GALORE (www.danceparade.org)

Tables and info from: www.tristatebiodiesel.com ,
www.dancesafe.org , www.nyc.indymedia.org , JERRY THE PEDDLER, www.nymaa.org, 
METROPOLIS IN MOTION (www.metromo.org),  and more…

SOUND by MADARO, ANTHONY, and DISORIENT with maestro DANIEL

+ ?

Sound recording by Low-Key
http://www.myspace.com/lowkey75
http://www.acidgrave.com/mayday/

Event photos by Fragileplanner
http://s174.photobucket.com/albums/w104/fragileplanner/mayday/

__________________________________________________


May Day
>From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_Day

[excerpts]

"May Day" also refers to various socialist and labor movement celebrations
conducted on May 1, unrelated to the traditional celebrations to commemorate
the Haymarket martyrs of 1886 and the international socialist movement
generally. The latter event is an important holiday in Communist and Socialist
countries.

In addition, May Day in the United States is commonly regarded — at least by
certain groups — as a commemoration of the execution of the Haymarket martyrs
who were arrested after the Haymarket Riot of 1886 in Chicago, Illinois, which
occurred on May 4, but was the culmination of labor unrest which began on May
1. The date consequently became established as an anarchist and socialist
holiday during the 20th century, and in these circles it is often known as
International Workers' Day or Labour Day. In this form, May Day has become an
international celebration of the social and economic achievements of the
working class and labor movement.

International Workers' Day

International Workers' Day (a name used interchangeably with May Day) is a
celebration of the social and economic achievements of the international labour
movement. May Day commonly sees organized street demonstrations by hundreds of
thousands of working people and their labour unions throughout Europe and most
of the rest of the world — though, as noted below, not in either the United
States or Canada. More radical groups such as communists and anarchists are
also given to widespread street protest on this day as well.

May Day was originally the commemoration of the Haymarket protests in Chicago
in 1886: in 1889, the first congress of the Second International, meeting in
Paris for the centennial of the French Revolution and the Exposition
Universelle (1889), following a proposal by Raymond Lavigne, called for
international demonstrations on the 1890 anniversary of the Chicago protests.
These were so successful that May Day was formally recognized as an annual
event at the International's second congress in 1891. The May Day Riots of 1894
and May Day Riots of 1919 occurred subsequently.

In 1904, the International Socialist Conference meeting in Amsterdam called on
"all Social-Democratic Party organizations and trade unions of all countries to
demonstrate energetically on May First for the legal establishment of the
8-hour day, for the class demands of the proletariat, and for universal peace."
As the most effective way of demonstrating was by striking, the congress made
it "mandatory upon the proletarian organizations of all countries to stop work
on May 1, wherever it is possible without injury to the workers."

May Day has long been a focal point for demonstrations by various socialist,
communist, and anarchist groups. In some circles, bonfires are lit in
commemoration of the Haymarket martyrs, usually right as the first day of May
begins.

Due to its status as a celebration of the efforts of workers and the socialist
movement, May Day is an important official holiday in Communist countries such
as the People's Republic of China, Cuba, and the former Soviet Union. May Day
celebrations typically feature elaborate popular and military parades in these
countries.

In countries other than the United States and Canada, resident working classes
fought hard to make May Day an official holiday[citation needed], efforts which
largely succeeded. For this reason, in most of the world today, May Day is
marked by massive street rallies led by workers, their trade unions, anarchists
and various socialist and communist parties.

The First and Second Red Scare periods ended May Day as a mass holiday in the
United States, which now celebrates its Labor Day on the first Monday of
September, due to its importance in Communist countries.

Listing of 2007 May Day events around the world
http://www.marxists.org/espanol/tematica/1demayo/index.htm#eventos

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> May Day NYC 2007 (hi-res 256kbps version)
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We just passed the 33% mark after roughly six hours uptime. Apparently upping
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raverbots? oh noes.

On 5/1/07, Spurty <spurty_brown@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > May Day NYC 2007 (hi-res 256kbps version)
> > torrent:
> > http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3678146/May_Day_NYC_2007
>
> We just passed the 33% mark after roughly six hours uptime. Apparently upping
> half a gig isn't as bad as I thought. Estimates are that shortly after midnight
> EST there should be roughly 20 people seeding this torrent which will make
> things much more pleasant. Please be patient and then generous.
>
> Are there bots glomming onto new torrents? No sooner than I had uploaded the
> torrent and before I posted to the list there were people around Europe sucking
> this down. Guess that's kind of cool. I see little flags from Romania,
> Bulgaria, Russia, Netherlands, Hungaria, Sweden and only now a couple from the
> USA. So DJs don't get all freaked out if you get a random email inviting you to
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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] May Day NYC 2007 torrent... still going

Quoting Spurty <spurty_brown@yahoo.com>:

>> May Day NYC 2007 (hi-res 256kbps version)
>> torrent:
>> http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3678146/May_Day_NYC_2007
>
> We just passed the 33% mark after roughly six hours uptime. Apparently upping
> half a gig isn't as bad as I thought. Estimates are that shortly 
> after midnight
> EST there should be roughly 20 people seeding this torrent which will make
> things much more pleasant. Please be patient and then generous.

I just added the sets to your torrent.  So you have one extra seed at least to
take the load off you.

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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] May Day NYC 2007 torrent... still going

--- lowkey@acidgrave.com wrote:

> Quoting Spurty <spurty_brown@yahoo.com>:
> 
> >> May Day NYC 2007 (hi-res 256kbps version)
> >> torrent:
> >> http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3678146/May_Day_NYC_2007
> >
> > We just passed the 33% mark after roughly six hours uptime. Apparently
> upping
> > half a gig isn't as bad as I thought. Estimates are that shortly 
> > after midnight
> > EST there should be roughly 20 people seeding this torrent which will make
> > things much more pleasant. Please be patient and then generous.
> 
> I just added the sets to your torrent.  So you have one extra seed at least
> to
> take the load off you.
> 
> Low-Key [DeTocs]
> http://www.myspace.com/lowkey75

Kick ass! I'm only now getting around to listening to the sets carefully. Amok
and Madaro's tag team took me back to 23Windoze (skanky, dangerous and fun
little warehouse in Bushwick, Brooklyn for those who aren't familiar with NYC)
days of impossibly fast beats and speedbass. Jason BK's style has really
progressed. It's much more melodic but hard as ever. And Missy is fucking
awesome. Crazy firecracker. Did she come up with that May Day theme song on the
spot? Was nice to have Siegel, a politician, speak but he sounded like he blew
a lung and was going to die on stage. It was nice of you to genrify the MP3s.
Did you guys know "rave" is a genre? Yeah, fuck if I know.

Getting to the Venue Poll thread late but...
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--- lowkey@acidgrave.com wrote:

> Quoting Spurty <spurty_brown@yahoo.com>:
> 
> >> May Day NYC 2007 (hi-res 256kbps version)
> >> torrent:
> >> http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3678146/May_Day_NYC_2007
> >
> > We just passed the 33% mark after roughly six hours uptime. Apparently
> upping
> > half a gig isn't as bad as I thought. Estimates are that shortly 
> > after midnight
> > EST there should be roughly 20 people seeding this torrent which will make
> > things much more pleasant. Please be patient and then generous.
> 
> I just added the sets to your torrent.  So you have one extra seed at least
> to
> take the load off you.
> 
> Low-Key [DeTocs]
> http://www.myspace.com/lowkey75

Kick ass! I'm only now getting around to listening to the sets carefully. Amok
and Madaro's tag team took me back to 23Windoze (skanky, dangerous and fun
little warehouse in Bushwick, Brooklyn for those who aren't familiar with NYC)
days of impossibly fast beats and speedbass. Jason BK's style has really
progressed. It's much more melodic but hard as ever. And Missy is fucking
awesome. Crazy firecracker. Did she come up with that May Day theme song on the
spot? Was nice to have Siegel, a politician, speak but he sounded like he blew
a lung and was going to die on stage. It was nice of you to genrify the MP3s.
Did you guys know "rave" is a genre? Yeah, fuck if I know.

Getting to the Venue Poll thread late but...
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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] May Day NYC 2007 torrent... still going

> very slow going

I know. Wanna be my sugardaddy and buy me a T1? A watched torrent never
finishes my grandma used to say. Just set it and go to bed. You'll have
something nice waiting for you when you get back from work or school or
whatever. I'm doing the initial-seeding which means it's not the fastest way to
upload but the fairest -- doling out pieces to achieve 100% among as many
people as possible. It's the best way to propagate the greatest number of
seeds. With Low-Key's help there are a couple people nearly done so the deed
will be done even sooner than expected. It's worth it. I think he took a feed
off the board so it sounds really nice and clean but when the mic goes on it
picks up all the shouting during Missy and booing during Siegel's list of grievances.

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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] May Day NYC 2007 torrent... still going

Quoting Spurty <spurty_brown@yahoo.com>:

>> very slow going
>
> I know. Wanna be my sugardaddy and buy me a T1? A watched torrent never
> finishes my grandma used to say. Just set it and go to bed. You'll have
> something nice waiting for you when you get back from work or school or
> whatever. I'm doing the initial-seeding which means it's not the 
> fastest way to
> upload but the fairest -- doling out pieces to achieve 100% among as many
> people as possible. It's the best way to propagate the greatest number of
> seeds. With Low-Key's help there are a couple people nearly done so the deed
> will be done even sooner than expected. It's worth it. I think he took a feed
> off the board so it sounds really nice and clean but when the mic goes on it
> picks up all the shouting during Missy and booing during Siegel's 
> list of grievances.

Yep.  Torrents are always slow until a number of seeds have propagated. 
  So, for
all of you that get it, please let it run a couple days so more pople can seed
it faster.  The speed grows exponentially.  And, yeah, the recordings are
pretty clean because I recorded erverything straight off the main board.  So,
when nobody was talking, there was no mic on and no background noise.  
So, only
downside I guess is if you wanted to hear people yelling during sets. ;)


-- 
Low-Key [DeTocs]
http://www.myspace.com/lowkey75


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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] May Day NYC 2007 torrent

Also, if you're not torrent friendly, re-mirrored here:
http://www.talldean.com/music/acidgrave/

On 5/1/07, Spurty <spurty_brown@yahoo.com> wrote:
> May Day NYC 2007 (hi-res 256kbps version)
> torrent:
> http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3678146/May_Day_NYC_2007
>
> BLACKKAT MAYDAY 2007!
> SUNDAY APRIL 29th
> 2-6 PM
> http://www.blackkat.org
>
> UNION SQUARE
> 1-5 PM!!!!!!! north end
>
> ~FREE~!!!
> all ages
> RAIN or SHINE!!
>
> our 9th year! (and the 20th L.E.S. Squatter Mayday?)
>
> featuring LIVE analog HARDWARE sets by:
>
> ATOMIC BABIES ( http://www.dRUMASHEENZ.com )
>
> The Atomic Babies have been touring and making techno-acid-electro-hardco=
re
> records since the early 90s.  Formerly behind the BML record label family=
,
> Joey Jupiter and The Germ now tour constantly and hold down the Drumashee=
nZ
> label. They have worked with Blackkat since our very first party over 10
> year ago; this is their first Mayday performance!
>
>
> COLLIN STRANGE? (Strange? Music)
> first set in NYC in 8 years!
>
> Collin was one of the first (and only!) providers of off-the-margins
> electronix records way back in the early 90s at Strange? Records.  He als=
o
> played at the first Blackkat party and was the first electronic act to pl=
ay
> at Mayday, back when it was a punk rock show!  He's coming all the way fr=
om
> Seattle for this exclusive NYC set=85Collin can play live improv on analo=
g
> gear (read: programming on the fly) like no other we have seen, we can't
> wait to see which way he goes!
>
> with
> GUEST DJs
>
> SASCHA ( http://www.Flavorpill.net)
> DJ BALLS ( http://www.Disorient.tv )
>
> and the BLACKKAT CREW:
>
> AMOK vs. MADARO (www.renegadevirus.org, Waxworks Distro)
> CHROME (www.tristatebiodiesel.com )
> JASON BK (www.blackkat.org)
>
> playing techno, drum and bass, freetek, breaks, house, hardcore, and ?
>
> and guest speakers:
>
> NORMAN SIEGEL (Civil Rights Attorney)
> And
> MISSY GALORE (www.danceparade.org)
>
> Tables and info from: www.tristatebiodiesel.com ,
> www.dancesafe.org , www.nyc.indymedia.org , JERRY THE PEDDLER, www.nymaa.=
org,
> METROPOLIS IN MOTION (www.metromo.org),  and more=85
>
> SOUND by MADARO, ANTHONY, and DISORIENT with maestro DANIEL
>
> + ?
>
> Sound recording by Low-Key
> http://www.myspace.com/lowkey75
> http://www.acidgrave.com/mayday/
>
> Event photos by Fragileplanner
> http://s174.photobucket.com/albums/w104/fragileplanner/mayday/
>
> __________________________________________________
>
>
> May Day
> From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_Day
>
> [excerpts]
>
> "May Day" also refers to various socialist and labor movement celebration=
s
> conducted on May 1, unrelated to the traditional celebrations to commemor=
ate
> the Haymarket martyrs of 1886 and the international socialist movement
> generally. The latter event is an important holiday in Communist and Soci=
alist
> countries.
>
> In addition, May Day in the United States is commonly regarded =97 at lea=
st by
> certain groups =97 as a commemoration of the execution of the Haymarket m=
artyrs
> who were arrested after the Haymarket Riot of 1886 in Chicago, Illinois, =
which
> occurred on May 4, but was the culmination of labor unrest which began on=
 May
> 1. The date consequently became established as an anarchist and socialist
> holiday during the 20th century, and in these circles it is often known a=
s
> International Workers' Day or Labour Day. In this form, May Day has becom=
e an
> international celebration of the social and economic achievements of the
> working class and labor movement.
>
> International Workers' Day
>
> International Workers' Day (a name used interchangeably with May Day) is =
a
> celebration of the social and economic achievements of the international =
labour
> movement. May Day commonly sees organized street demonstrations by hundre=
ds of
> thousands of working people and their labour unions throughout Europe and=
 most
> of the rest of the world =97 though, as noted below, not in either the Un=
ited
> States or Canada. More radical groups such as communists and anarchists a=
re
> also given to widespread street protest on this day as well.
>
> May Day was originally the commemoration of the Haymarket protests in Chi=
cago
> in 1886: in 1889, the first congress of the Second International, meeting=
 in
> Paris for the centennial of the French Revolution and the Exposition
> Universelle (1889), following a proposal by Raymond Lavigne, called for
> international demonstrations on the 1890 anniversary of the Chicago prote=
sts.
> These were so successful that May Day was formally recognized as an annua=
l
> event at the International's second congress in 1891. The May Day Riots o=
f 1894
> and May Day Riots of 1919 occurred subsequently.
>
> In 1904, the International Socialist Conference meeting in Amsterdam call=
ed on
> "all Social-Democratic Party organizations and trade unions of all countr=
ies to
> demonstrate energetically on May First for the legal establishment of the
> 8-hour day, for the class demands of the proletariat, and for universal p=
eace."
> As the most effective way of demonstrating was by striking, the congress =
made
> it "mandatory upon the proletarian organizations of all countries to stop=
 work
> on May 1, wherever it is possible without injury to the workers."
>
> May Day has long been a focal point for demonstrations by various sociali=
st,
> communist, and anarchist groups. In some circles, bonfires are lit in
> commemoration of the Haymarket martyrs, usually right as the first day of=
 May
> begins.
>
> Due to its status as a celebration of the efforts of workers and the soci=
alist
> movement, May Day is an important official holiday in Communist countries=
 such
> as the People's Republic of China, Cuba, and the former Soviet Union. May=
 Day
> celebrations typically feature elaborate popular and military parades in =
these
> countries.
>
> In countries other than the United States and Canada, resident working cl=
asses
> fought hard to make May Day an official holiday[citation needed], efforts=
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> largely succeeded. For this reason, in most of the world today, May Day i=
s
> marked by massive street rallies led by workers, their trade unions, anar=
chists
> and various socialist and communist parties.
>
> The First and Second Red Scare periods ended May Day as a mass holiday in=
 the
> United States, which now celebrates its Labor Day on the first Monday of
> September, due to its importance in Communist countries.
>
> Listing of 2007 May Day events around the world
> http://www.marxists.org/espanol/tematica/1demayo/index.htm#eventos
>
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are they of the 256kb variant?

On 5/2/07, Dean <talldean@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Also, if you're not torrent friendly, re-mirrored here:
> http://www.talldean.com/music/acidgrave/
>
> On 5/1/07, Spurty <spurty_brown@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > May Day NYC 2007 (hi-res 256kbps version)
> > torrent:
> > http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3678146/May_Day_NYC_2007
> >
> > BLACKKAT MAYDAY 2007!
> > SUNDAY APRIL 29th
> > 2-6 PM
> > http://www.blackkat.org
> >
> > UNION SQUARE
> > 1-5 PM!!!!!!! north end
> >
> > ~FREE~!!!
> > all ages
> > RAIN or SHINE!!
> >
> > our 9th year! (and the 20th L.E.S. Squatter Mayday?)
> >
> > featuring LIVE analog HARDWARE sets by:
> >
> > ATOMIC BABIES ( http://www.dRUMASHEENZ.com )
> >
> > The Atomic Babies have been touring and making
> techno-acid-electro-hardcore
> > records since the early 90s.  Formerly behind the BML record label
> family,
> > Joey Jupiter and The Germ now tour constantly and hold down the
> DrumasheenZ
> > label. They have worked with Blackkat since our very first party over 1=
0
> > year ago; this is their first Mayday performance!
> >
> >
> > COLLIN STRANGE? (Strange? Music)
> > first set in NYC in 8 years!
> >
> > Collin was one of the first (and only!) providers of off-the-margins
> > electronix records way back in the early 90s at Strange? Records.  He
> also
> > played at the first Blackkat party and was the first electronic act to
> play
> > at Mayday, back when it was a punk rock show!  He's coming all the way
> from
> > Seattle for this exclusive NYC set=85Collin can play live improv on ana=
log
> > gear (read: programming on the fly) like no other we have seen, we can'=
t
> > wait to see which way he goes!
> >
> > with
> > GUEST DJs
> >
> > SASCHA ( http://www.Flavorpill.net)
> > DJ BALLS ( http://www.Disorient.tv )
> >
> > and the BLACKKAT CREW:
> >
> > AMOK vs. MADARO (www.renegadevirus.org, Waxworks Distro)
> > CHROME (www.tristatebiodiesel.com )
> > JASON BK (www.blackkat.org)
> >
> > playing techno, drum and bass, freetek, breaks, house, hardcore, and ?
> >
> > and guest speakers:
> >
> > NORMAN SIEGEL (Civil Rights Attorney)
> > And
> > MISSY GALORE (www.danceparade.org)
> >
> > Tables and info from: www.tristatebiodiesel.com ,
> > www.dancesafe.org , www.nyc.indymedia.org , JERRY THE PEDDLER,
> www.nymaa.org,
> > METROPOLIS IN MOTION (www.metromo.org),  and more=85
> >
> > SOUND by MADARO, ANTHONY, and DISORIENT with maestro DANIEL
> >
> > + ?
> >
> > Sound recording by Low-Key
> > http://www.myspace.com/lowkey75
> > http://www.acidgrave.com/mayday/
> >
> > Event photos by Fragileplanner
> > http://s174.photobucket.com/albums/w104/fragileplanner/mayday/
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> >
> >
> > May Day
> > From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_Day
> >
> > [excerpts]
> >
> > "May Day" also refers to various socialist and labor movement
> celebrations
> > conducted on May 1, unrelated to the traditional celebrations to
> commemorate
> > the Haymarket martyrs of 1886 and the international socialist movement
> > generally. The latter event is an important holiday in Communist and
> Socialist
> > countries.
> >
> > In addition, May Day in the United States is commonly regarded =97 at
> least by
> > certain groups =97 as a commemoration of the execution of the Haymarket
> martyrs
> > who were arrested after the Haymarket Riot of 1886 in Chicago, Illinois=
,
> which
> > occurred on May 4, but was the culmination of labor unrest which began
> on May
> > 1. The date consequently became established as an anarchist and
> socialist
> > holiday during the 20th century, and in these circles it is often known
> as
> > International Workers' Day or Labour Day. In this form, May Day has
> become an
> > international celebration of the social and economic achievements of th=
e
> > working class and labor movement.
> >
> > International Workers' Day
> >
> > International Workers' Day (a name used interchangeably with May Day) i=
s
> a
> > celebration of the social and economic achievements of the internationa=
l
> labour
> > movement. May Day commonly sees organized street demonstrations by
> hundreds of
> > thousands of working people and their labour unions throughout Europe
> and most
> > of the rest of the world =97 though, as noted below, not in either the
> United
> > States or Canada. More radical groups such as communists and anarchists
> are
> > also given to widespread street protest on this day as well.
> >
> > May Day was originally the commemoration of the Haymarket protests in
> Chicago
> > in 1886: in 1889, the first congress of the Second International,
> meeting in
> > Paris for the centennial of the French Revolution and the Exposition
> > Universelle (1889), following a proposal by Raymond Lavigne, called for
> > international demonstrations on the 1890 anniversary of the Chicago
> protests.
> > These were so successful that May Day was formally recognized as an
> annual
> > event at the International's second congress in 1891. The May Day Riots
> of 1894
> > and May Day Riots of 1919 occurred subsequently.
> >
> > In 1904, the International Socialist Conference meeting in Amsterdam
> called on
> > "all Social-Democratic Party organizations and trade unions of all
> countries to
> > demonstrate energetically on May First for the legal establishment of
> the
> > 8-hour day, for the class demands of the proletariat, and for universal
> peace."
> > As the most effective way of demonstrating was by striking, the congres=
s
> made
> > it "mandatory upon the proletarian organizations of all countries to
> stop work
> > on May 1, wherever it is possible without injury to the workers."
> >
> > May Day has long been a focal point for demonstrations by various
> socialist,
> > communist, and anarchist groups. In some circles, bonfires are lit in
> > commemoration of the Haymarket martyrs, usually right as the first day
> of May
> > begins.
> >
> > Due to its status as a celebration of the efforts of workers and the
> socialist
> > movement, May Day is an important official holiday in Communist
> countries such
> > as the People's Republic of China, Cuba, and the former Soviet Union.
> May Day
> > celebrations typically feature elaborate popular and military parades i=
n
> these
> > countries.
> >
> > In countries other than the United States and Canada, resident working
> classes
> > fought hard to make May Day an official holiday[citation needed],
> efforts which
> > largely succeeded. For this reason, in most of the world today, May Day
> is
> > marked by massive street rallies led by workers, their trade unions,
> anarchists
> > and various socialist and communist parties.
> >
> > The First and Second Red Scare periods ended May Day as a mass holiday
> in the
> > United States, which now celebrates its Labor Day on the first Monday o=
f
> > September, due to its importance in Communist countries.
> >
> > Listing of 2007 May Day events around the world
> > http://www.marxists.org/espanol/tematica/1demayo/index.htm#eventos
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> >
> >
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There's been a bill introduced to change the fees internet radio will need
to pay.  It's important that you pressure your elected officials aobut it!

What you can do:
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The bill:
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Subject: [ne-raves] Ontario, CA - Fwd: WEMF 2007 Super Early Bird Sale!

Just so this place isn't overrun by NYC...

--- Destiny Event Productions <Destiny@lb.bcentral.com> wrote:

> From: "Destiny Event Productions" <Destiny@lb.bcentral.com>
> Subject: WEMF 2007 Super Early Bird Sale!
> Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 06:51:20 -0700
>  
> WEMF2007
> 
> WEMF 2007
> JULY 20-22 :: Ontario, Canada
> DESTINY 60
> 
> As the grass turns green and the birds are singing once more everyone at
> Destiny HQ begins to focus on WEMF. That's right - another year has almost
> come to pass and Canada's largest, longest running and most anticipated
> electronic music event is just around the corner!
> 
> This year, we are proud to celebrate the 13th Anniversary of the World
> Electronic Music Festival which is Destiny's 60th major event in the last 14
> years - WOW! We thought last year would be the final WEMF adventure but this
> is a beat that refuses to stop.  The party and tradition must carry forward! 
> In celebration of all things WEMF, we are offering a very special "for those
> who know" pre-release ticket sale. For 4 days only -- from Thursday May 10th
> to Monday May 14th we will be offering 3-day tickets for the low price of
> $60.00 CDN. That's right, the Three Day is on sale once again! These SUPER
> EARLY BIRD Tickets will be limited to 600 and for the past three years they
> have sold out in less than 72hrs -- so mark it on your calendar and get them
> quick! Online sales begin at 10am Thursday, May 10th and stores start selling
> as soon as they open that day.
> 
> As an extra special bonus, we would also like to offer an advance purchase
> option for the Official WEMF2006 HD filmedDVD. If you purchase the special
> Super Early Bird DVD Package you will receive a SEB 3-Day WEMF ticket AND a
> copy of the WEMF2006 DVD for $75.00 - a 50% savings on the DVD! We will have
> your DVD available for pick-up upon your entry to the festival grounds.
> 
> Super Early Bird tickets will ONLY be available from
> 
> All TICKETMASTER outlets across Canada/USA
> and on the street at NUMB , 2TheBeat, or Play de Record
> 
> Online: Ticketmaster.ca (CAN) / Ticketmaster.com (USA)
> 
> Ticketbreak.com
> 
> Groovetickets.com
> 
> Clubzone.com
> 
> While we won't be releasing any details on the event until the weekend after
> the sale, we can tell you that this year's WEMF will bring things back to the
> roots of WEMF with an all dance format in an amazing indoor/outdoor venue
> just a short drive from both Toronto and the US border. We appreciate the
> support you have shown over the years and know without a doubt that you will
> have a blast at this year's World Electronic Music Festival!
> 
> Peace.
> 
> The Destiny Crew.


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Subject: [ne-raves] Re: [dcraves] Re: [ne-raves] May Day NYC 2007 torrent

We have both kinds of music.  Country, and Western.

On 5/2/07, The Work It Circuit <jungleboogiemonster@gmail.com> wrote:
> are they of the 256kb variant?
>
> On 5/2/07, Dean <talldean@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Also, if you're not torrent friendly, re-mirrored here:
> > http://www.talldean.com/music/acidgrave/
> >
> > On 5/1/07, Spurty < spurty_brown@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > May Day NYC 2007 (hi-res 256kbps version)
> > > torrent:
> > > http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3678146/May_Day_NYC_2007
> > >
> > > BLACKKAT MAYDAY 2007!
> > > SUNDAY APRIL 29th
> > > 2-6 PM
> > > http://www.blackkat.org
> > >
> > > UNION SQUARE
> > > 1-5 PM!!!!!!! north end
> > >
> > > ~FREE~!!!
> > > all ages
> > > RAIN or SHINE!!
> > >
> > > our 9th year! (and the 20th L.E.S. Squatter Mayday?)
> > >
> > > featuring LIVE analog HARDWARE sets by:
> > >
> > > ATOMIC BABIES ( http://www.dRUMASHEENZ.com )
> > >
> > > The Atomic Babies have been touring and making
> techno-acid-electro-hardcore
> > > records since the early 90s.  Formerly behind the BML record label
> family,
> > > Joey Jupiter and The Germ now tour constantly and hold down the
> DrumasheenZ
> > > label. They have worked with Blackkat since our very first party over=
 10
> > > year ago; this is their first Mayday performance!
> > >
> > >
> > > COLLIN STRANGE? (Strange? Music)
> > > first set in NYC in 8 years!
> > >
> > > Collin was one of the first (and only!) providers of off-the-margins
> > > electronix records way back in the early 90s at Strange? Records.  He
> also
> > > played at the first Blackkat party and was the first electronic act t=
o
> play
> > > at Mayday, back when it was a punk rock show!  He's coming all the wa=
y
> from
> > > Seattle for this exclusive NYC set=85Collin can play live improv on a=
nalog
> > > gear (read: programming on the fly) like no other we have seen, we ca=
n't
> > > wait to see which way he goes!
> > >
> > > with
> > > GUEST DJs
> > >
> > > SASCHA ( http://www.Flavorpill.net)
> > > DJ BALLS ( http://www.Disorient.tv )
> > >
> > > and the BLACKKAT CREW:
> > >
> > > AMOK vs. MADARO (www.renegadevirus.org, Waxworks Distro)
> > > CHROME ( www.tristatebiodiesel.com )
> > > JASON BK (www.blackkat.org)
> > >
> > > playing techno, drum and bass, freetek, breaks, house, hardcore, and =
?
> > >
> > > and guest speakers:
> > >
> > > NORMAN SIEGEL (Civil Rights Attorney)
> > > And
> > > MISSY GALORE (www.danceparade.org)
> > >
> > > Tables and info from: www.tristatebiodiesel.com ,
> > > www.dancesafe.org , www.nyc.indymedia.org , JERRY THE PEDDLER,
> www.nymaa.org ,
> > > METROPOLIS IN MOTION (www.metromo.org),  and more=85
> > >
> > > SOUND by MADARO, ANTHONY, and DISORIENT with maestro DANIEL
> > >
> > > + ?
> > >
> > > Sound recording by Low-Key
> > > http://www.myspace.com/lowkey75
> > > http://www.acidgrave.com/mayday/
> > >
> > > Event photos by Fragileplanner
> > >
> http://s174.photobucket.com/albums/w104/fragileplanner/mayday/
> > >
> > > __________________________________________________
> > >
> > >
> > > May Day
> > > From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_Day
> > >
> > > [excerpts]
> > >
> > > "May Day" also refers to various socialist and labor movement
> celebrations
> > > conducted on May 1, unrelated to the traditional celebrations to
> commemorate
> > > the Haymarket martyrs of 1886 and the international socialist movemen=
t
> > > generally. The latter event is an important holiday in Communist and
> Socialist
> > > countries.
> > >
> > > In addition, May Day in the United States is commonly regarded =97 at
> least by
> > > certain groups =97 as a commemoration of the execution of the Haymark=
et
> martyrs
> > > who were arrested after the Haymarket Riot of 1886 in Chicago, Illino=
is,
> which
> > > occurred on May 4, but was the culmination of labor unrest which bega=
n
> on May
> > > 1. The date consequently became established as an anarchist and
> socialist
> > > holiday during the 20th century, and in these circles it is often kno=
wn
> as
> > > International Workers' Day or Labour Day. In this form, May Day has
> become an
> > > international celebration of the social and economic achievements of =
the
> > > working class and labor movement.
> > >
> > > International Workers' Day
> > >
> > > International Workers' Day (a name used interchangeably with May Day)=
 is
> a
> > > celebration of the social and economic achievements of the internatio=
nal
> labour
> > > movement. May Day commonly sees organized street demonstrations by
> hundreds of
> > > thousands of working people and their labour unions throughout Europe
> and most
> > > of the rest of the world =97 though, as noted below, not in either th=
e
> United
> > > States or Canada. More radical groups such as communists and anarchis=
ts
> are
> > > also given to widespread street protest on this day as well.
> > >
> > > May Day was originally the commemoration of the Haymarket protests in
> Chicago
> > > in 1886: in 1889, the first congress of the Second International,
> meeting in
> > > Paris for the centennial of the French Revolution and the Exposition
> > > Universelle (1889), following a proposal by Raymond Lavigne, called f=
or
> > > international demonstrations on the 1890 anniversary of the Chicago
> protests.
> > > These were so successful that May Day was formally recognized as an
> annual
> > > event at the International's second congress in 1891. The May Day Rio=
ts
> of 1894
> > > and May Day Riots of 1919 occurred subsequently.
> > >
> > > In 1904, the International Socialist Conference meeting in Amsterdam
> called on
> > > "all Social-Democratic Party organizations and trade unions of all
> countries to
> > > demonstrate energetically on May First for the legal establishment of
> the
> > > 8-hour day, for the class demands of the proletariat, and for univers=
al
> peace."
> > > As the most effective way of demonstrating was by striking, the congr=
ess
> made
> > > it "mandatory upon the proletarian organizations of all countries to
> stop work
> > > on May 1, wherever it is possible without injury to the workers."
> > >
> > > May Day has long been a focal point for demonstrations by various
> socialist,
> > > communist, and anarchist groups. In some circles, bonfires are lit in
> > > commemoration of the Haymarket martyrs, usually right as the first da=
y
> of May
> > > begins.
> > >
> > > Due to its status as a celebration of the efforts of workers and the
> socialist
> > > movement, May Day is an important official holiday in Communist
> countries such
> > > as the People's Republic of China, Cuba, and the former Soviet Union.
> May Day
> > > celebrations typically feature elaborate popular and military parades=
 in
> these
> > > countries.
> > >
> > > In countries other than the United States and Canada, resident workin=
g
> classes
> > > fought hard to make May Day an official holiday[citation needed],
> efforts which
> > > largely succeeded. For this reason, in most of the world today, May D=
ay
> is
> > > marked by massive street rallies led by workers, their trade unions,
> anarchists
> > > and various socialist and communist parties.
> > >
> > > The First and Second Red Scare periods ended May Day as a mass holida=
y
> in the
> > > United States, which now celebrates its Labor Day on the first Monday=
 of
> > > September, due to its importance in Communist countries.
> > >
> > > Listing of 2007 May Day events around the world
> > >
> http://www.marxists.org/espanol/tematica/1demayo/index.htm#eventos
> > >
> > > __________________________________________________
> > >
> > >
> > > __________________________________________________
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<BR><BR>Note: forwarded message attached.<BR><BR>PLURR, Lix, And Pixie Stix!!!<br><br>8bit Theater<br>www.nuklearpower.com<br><br>My site<br>www.geocities.com/qxraverboixp/Raver_Bois_Korner_Kandi_Shoppe<p>&#32;



      <hr size=1>Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?<br> Check out
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I got this e-mail today, and I'm doing just what it asks of me, trying to gain more people to the movement, so please read up more on the fight against poverty, and sign up if ur willing to make a difference...  even if u don't think u'll want to sign up at least read a little about it.  Thanks guys...

  Althea aka Bonez
   
   
  
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<div>I got this e-mail today, and I'm doing just what it asks of me, trying to gain more people to the movement, so please read up more on the fight against poverty, and sign up if ur willing to make a difference...&nbsp; even if u don't think u'll want to sign up at least read a little about it. &nbsp;Thanks guys...<BR></div>  <div>Althea aka Bonez</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div><BR>Note: forwarded message attached.</div><p>&#32;



      <hr size=1>Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?<br> Check out
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It's for your friend.

So far this week more than 74,329 Americans have joined the fight against extreme poverty making us the fastest growing movement in America. Let's keep it that way.

To truly eradicate extreme poverty once and for all we need a strong and sizable block of Americans working to make poverty a priority.

To this end, I am issuing a challenge to all members: get at least ONE friend to sign up and join ONE and help end poverty. Let's add 25,000 more members by Wednesday, making it 100,000 new members in one week.

Forward this email to at least ONE friend and ask them to go to http://www.ONE.org and sign up.

To keep track of our progress we will replace the standard counter on the front of ONE.org with a counter showing the number of new members. You can help raise this number by forwarding this e-mail to a friend and sending them to ONE.org where they can sign the ONE Declaration and start using their voice to end poverty.

Thanks to Idol Gives Back, over 30 million people learned about the ONE Campaign on Wednesday. One by one we're growing, and making a difference, whether it is successfully pushing for billions of dollars of poverty fighting funding, or crucial trade reforms, we are winning. Keep up the amazing work.

Thank you,

Susan McCue, ONE.org

P.S. I have already answered my own challenge by calling my friend Harlan Coben, New York Times bestselling author of The Woods, and explained how he can make a difference in the fight against poverty. Check out the ONE Blog for updates. http://action.one.org/blog/
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On 5/2/07, Fayt Walker <qxraverboixp@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Note: forwarded message attached.
>
> PLURR, Lix, And Pixie Stix!!!
>
> 8bit Theater
> www.nuklearpower.com
>
> My site
> www.geocities.com/qxraverboixp/Raver_Bois_Korner_Kandi_Shoppe
>
> ------------------------------
> Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?
> Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos.<http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48245/*http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html;_ylc=X3oDMTE1YW1jcXJ2BF9TAzk3MTA3MDc2BHNlYwNtYWlsdGFncwRzbGsDbmV3LWNhcnM->
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Subject: [ne-raves] RAVE Act

--- Legba Carrefour <legba.carrefour@gmail.com> wrote:

> For everyone in DC, Jason Blackkat was one of the people who worked
> with us (ROAR!) on a national scale to organize the national anti-RAVE
> Act protests and he is very cool.

Just curious but what's happened with the Illicit Drug Anti-Proliferation Act
(formerly known as the RAVE Act). It's on the books but has anyone heard about
it being used to shutter venues and penalize venue owners and promoters? Last I
remember was the crazy SWAT style raid on a desert rave in Nevada.

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Subject: [ne-raves] SAT 05.05 TECHNO DE MAYO w. Lexy & K-Paul, Lenny Dee 14xDJs

TECHNO DE MAYO 05.05.07
with14x DJs at Galapagos Art Space in Williamsburg, Brooklyn

Extendet set by  Lenny Dee (Rotterdam Rec, Megarave, Industrial Strength)
2x Hour LIVE PA by Lexy & K-Paul from Berlin / Germany (Low Spirit, Electric
Kingdom, musicismusic)

Andy Slate Mannheim / Germany (Soulmate, Missile, Zync, Mainfloor) Dominik
Schöller Würzburg / Germany (doojee)
Dj K1W1 New Zealand (Grant Riddell) and a very special closing set by Lexy
Berlin / Germany (Low Spirit / Electric Kingdom / Freundschaft Musik / Road
Rage Records / Vendetta).

Dali vs Subterranean with a.special double birthday set (Groove Therapy,
Digital
Entrapment, Audioboxx, RO, Under Suspicion) The Mannchild (Hardmind, Groove
Therapy) Mama C (Vitus, Groove Therapy) Soren vs Sinister (Groove Therapy,
Audioboxx, Digital Entrapment) Senseone (Groove Therapy, Deconstruction
Industries, Local 13) Dice (Adam Worldwide) .

Live Video with Katja Loher & the doojee Team.
Margarita & Tequila Specials All Night Long.

Located at: Galapagos Art Space, 70 n 6th street williamsburg brooklyn
http://ww.galapagosartspace.com. 10:00 PM - 6.00 AM.
10$ in-advance and 15$ at the door. Ages: 21+. more info and guestlist @
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We've posted a bunch of Lexy & K-Paul videos - check em out!
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Subject: [ne-raves] My Speech About Raves For Oral Comm.

i have an oral communications class and i have to do an informative speech 
about whatever i want.

ive always wanted to do a speech about raves to inform ppl about what RAVE 
is all about.


my main idea is to inform the audience of society's misconception of what 
"rave" is all about and also to inform them of the importance of musical 
influence on culture as a whole.

my subtopics are:  history of rave, government implication to try and stop 
it (RAVE ACT), art, music, dance and how it all ties to freedom of 
expression,......


anyone have any reccomendations on other subtopic or what i can talk 
about?????

any advice would be much appreciated.. even an opinion will be helpful, 
thanks.

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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] My Speech About Raves For Oral Comm.

Generation Ecstasy: Into the World of Techno and Rave Culture
by Simon Reynolds
    * ISBN: 0415923735

Rave America: New School Dancescapes
by Mireille Silcott
    * ISBN: 1550223836
    * Pub. Date: November 1999

http://music.hyperreal.org/library/

http://media.hyperreal.org/library/

get to work, you've got a lot of reading to do.


On 5/4/07, Ant Diamond <hazexnl@hotmail.com> wrote:
> i have an oral communications class and i have to do an informative speech
> about whatever i want.
>
> ive always wanted to do a speech about raves to inform ppl about what RAVE
> is all about.
>
>
> my main idea is to inform the audience of society's misconception of what
> "rave" is all about and also to inform them of the importance of musical
> influence on culture as a whole.
>
> my subtopics are:  history of rave, government implication to try and stop
> it (RAVE ACT), art, music, dance and how it all ties to freedom of
> expression,......
>
>
> anyone have any reccomendations on other subtopic or what i can talk
> about?????
>
> any advice would be much appreciated.. even an opinion will be helpful,
> thanks.
>
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Subject: [ne-raves] Mayday Thanx! and Dance Parade NYC! (fwd)


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From: Blackkat list <blackkat@blackkat.org>

Hey Everyone!!

BIG THANX to everybody that made it out to Union Square last weekend despite 
the confusion!! and an extra big thanks to so many people that carried 
speakers, donated to replace the speakers, got the word out, drove around the 
city like lunatics and the 100 other things that go into making this little 4 
hour party happen! I can't list you all---you know we appreciate it, that's why 
we do it!


we have all the AUDIO and linx to pictures and more from the party on our site:
http://www.blackkat.org

and here are some video linx we have found so far:

http://s168.photobucket.com/albums/u194/mirekulous/?action=view&current=DSCF0154.flv
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXwVNa7TT-8&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rKRLw3piNo&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvnnQzRN0zs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOLrMBKMsTQ

if anyone out there has any footage or photos you would like to share, PLEASE 
write us at blackkatlist@hotmail.com..you can send us a link or files; we will 
have a gallery of all different photos and vid soon---thanx for those that got 
back to us so far!


here's a couple links for good newspaper articles relate to Mayday:

http://ny.metro.us/metro/local/article/Dancing_in_the_streets_to_highlight_citys_law/8265.html

http://www.indypendent.org/?p=1045


and bit torrent folks can share the audio bits here:

http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3678146/May_Day_NYC_2007

and thanx again!------>

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next up : THE FIRST ANNUAL NYC DANCE PARADE SATURDAY MAY 19TH!!!

New York has never had anything like this, and it's about time! Thanx to a 
dedicated and overworked crew of amazing party people NYC will finally join the 
rest of the Last World in throwing a massive street parade celebrating all 
forms of dance, from techno to Swing dancers to whirling 
dervishes..(really!)---this  is not your average corporate funded holiday 
event, this is straight from the NYC music dance party communities to broadcast 
LOUD and clear the message that WE NEED MORE PARTIES IN NEW YORK! ERASE THE 
CABARET LAW ALREADY!

There were be hundreds of thousands of watts of sound on acres of trucks 
blasting down Broadway and Fifth Avenue, right into Washington Square Park for 
a blowout with Kool Herc and more founders of beat music, followed an 
evening-night jam afterwards in Manhattan --- it's on!

All the info is here:
http://www.danceparade.org

Blackkat will be there in force with a full truck and system as part of the 
Septix Cru, a co-lab of our crew families and sound titans Timbre Tech --we 
invite you to join us in the street!!!

sign up here (we are under Tribal:Blackkat Collective in the list of 
performers)

http://www.danceparade.org/join/dance.php

we're not sure about the theme yet, so we'll let you know!
(we are booked for djs, so don't even ask! sorry-but we are looking for more 
backdrops to hang on the truck...?)


anyone that would like to help out this incredibly large project, please go 
here (they can use help!)

http://www.danceparade.org/join/staff.html

and WE'LL SEE YOU THERE!

PS--keep posted for other fundraiser parties in the next few weeks!


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also upcoming :
CANADA TEKNIVAL 2007

check here:http://freetekno.toronto.on.ca/forum/

NYC STREET OUTLAW MADNESS
July 2007

..that's all we can say for now! remember First Warm Night...?

you can sign on or off list here, or at http://www.blackkat.org

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Subject: [ne-raves] NYC - Matter/:Form OVERBOARD boat party ~ Layo and Bushwacka! ~
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Matter/:Form presents the Overboard boat party Sunday, May 13th

w/ Layo & Bushwacka! & Adultnapper

Aboard The Paddlewheel Queen ~ 23rd St.  & East River

Boarding & Svedka Open Bar:    7pm-8pm  ~ Cruise:  8pm-12am

$25 Presale ~ $35 Day of Event (@ Dock)

Tickets available @ Ticketweb www.ticketweb.com

After-hours @ Bar 13 ~ w/ Adultnapper ~ Alex Graham + Special Guests

The legendary Matter/:Form boat party returns for a special reunion with the DJ duo that made it famous - Layo & Bushwacka! Get ready to kick off the season with smooth tech-house stylings, dirty basslines, rockin’ grooves and dancing on the high seas for an unforgettable adventure. The Paddlewheel Queen will sail for four hours along the NYC bridges and around the Statue of Liberty for an extraordinary evening of dancing and sailing under the open skies.

Over the years the Matter/:Form parties believed that good music and good people produced good parties. They brought this in spades with artists such as mainstays Layo & Bushwacka!, Mr. C, Terry Francis, Nathan Coles, Francis Harris, Evil Eddie Richards, Grant Dell, Ralph Lawson, Three, Sean Cusick, Jay Tripwire, Tyler Stadius, etc  to various NYC venues including Centro-Fly, Sullivan Room and the sea-worthy Paddlewheel Queen. They were the first event producers to bring cutting edge underground electronic music to the East River with their tech-house oriented boat parties. Three years on and the  Matter/:Form boat parties still evoke smiles and lasting memories of incredible world-class electronic dance music outside of the confines of a dark nightclub amidst a unique NYC backdrop.

Layo & Bushwacka! have been responsible for some of dance music’s  most ground-breaking  and unique moments including the massive ‘Love Story’ single, a worldwide smash hit. Now Bushwacka! is armed with his latest release “Remember” on the duo’s new label Olmeto Records. The track was ubiquitous at this year’s Winter Music Conference and has been making the dancefloor rounds across the globe.

Adultnapper (the artist formerly known as Francis Harris) has been a mainstay on the underground music circuit with buzz still circling his Winter Music Conference performances at the Made Event Sunday School for Degenerates and AM Only parties. After multiple releases on well-respected labels such as Steve Bug's Audiomatique, Dirt Crew, Mr. C's Superfreq and Mule Electronic, Adultnapper is poised for his debut release "Maxwell's Demon" on his new label Ransom Note in June 2007. He is continuing his collaborations with Mr. C, producing and DJing together as the Sycophant Slags at Superfreq events worldwide with more USA dates TBA for August 2007.

In 1995 Layo opened The End, a purpose-built club dedicated to breaking new music to the right people. Layo and Bushwacka! released their first album 'Low Life' on End Recordings, the label that begun life the day The End opened. Since its release in the summer of 2002, Layo and Bushwacka!s second long player 'Night Works' has become an underground word of mouth. Last year they continued their legacy with the release of ‘Feels Closer’, their third  and finest album to date on their own label Olmeto Records. For this album they decided to re-charge their batteries by leaving London and recorded the album in Brooklyn, New York.

New York has always been a city of inspiration for Layo & Bushwacka! and now they’re back here to unleash their new music, creative energy and vibrant buzz from their Olmeto residency at The End in London, to sail down the East River on the Paddlewheel Queen. Bon Voyage!

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hello i will be playing music that makes you say 'what'

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Subject: [ne-raves] canonical list of books about raving

that book-report thread got me thinking. i *know* there's plenty
missing from this list, is there a better version of this list out
there already? if not, what else can you add here?

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Generation Ecstasy: Into the World of Techno and Rave Culture
by Simon Reynolds
   * ISBN: 0415923735

Rave America: New School Dancescapes
by Mireille Silcott
   * ISBN: 1550223836
   * Pub. Date: November 1999

http://music.hyperreal.org/library/

http://media.hyperreal.org/library/

Last Night a DJ Saved My Life by Bill Brewster
*isbn 0-8021-3688-5 (theres also a new revision out)

Techno Rebels by Dan Sicko
*isbn 0-8230-8428-0

Class of 88 by Wayne Anthony
PDF Download:
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Subject: [ne-raves] TONIGHT!! 05.05 TECHNO DE MAYO w. Lexy & K-Paul, Lenny Dee 14xDJs

DONT MISS!!

TECHNO DE MAYO 05.05.07
with14x DJs at Galapagos Art Space in Williamsburg, Brooklyn

Extendet set by  Lenny Dee (Rotterdam Rec, Megarave, Industrial Strength)
2x Hour LIVE PA by Lexy & K-Paul from Berlin / Germany (Low Spirit, Electric
Kingdom, musicismusic)

Andy Slate Mannheim / Germany (Soulmate, Missile, Zync, Mainfloor) Dominik
Schöller Würzburg / Germany (doojee)
Dj K1W1 New Zealand (Grant Riddell) and a very special closing set by Lexy
Berlin / Germany (Low Spirit / Electric Kingdom / Freundschaft Musik / Road
Rage Records / Vendetta).

Dali vs Subterranean with a.special double birthday set (Groove Therapy,
Digital Entrapment, Audioboxx, RO, Under Suspicion) The Mannchild (Hardmind,
Groove
Therapy) Mama C (Vitus, Groove Therapy) Soren vs Sinister (Groove Therapy,
Audioboxx, Digital Entrapment) Senseone (Groove Therapy, Deconstruction
Industries, Local 13) Dice (Adam Worldwide) .

Live Video with Katja Loher & the doojee Team.
Margarita & Tequila Specials All Night Long.

70 North 6th Street
between Kent and Wythe
Williamsburg, Brooklyn, NY 11211
718 782-5188


>From Manhattan by Subway - Take the L train (catch it along 14th Street in
the City) to Bedford Ave. (1st stop in Brooklyn). You'll be on Bedford
Avenue and North 7 Street, walk one block to N. 6th, make a right and walk 2
1/2 blocks down to #70. We're between Wythe Avenue and Kent Avenue.
Or take the JMZ to Marcy Ave. Walk two blocks west (toward the river) on
Broadway, to Bedford Ave. Catch the B61 bus on the corner and take it to N7
(approximately 5 minute ride).

>From the rest of Brooklyn! - Take the G train to the Metropolitan / Lorimer
stop, transfer to the L train in the direction of Manhattan, go one stop to
Bedford Avenue. Once out of the subway you'll be on Bedford Avenue and North
7 Street, walk one block to N. 6th, make a right and walk 2 1/2 blocks down
to #70. We're between Wythe Avenue and Kent Avenue.


>From Manhattan by Car - Take the outer right hand lane across the
Williamsburg Bridge, get off at the first exit (Broadway) and curve around
to the right 180 degrees until you're heading back toward the river on
Broadway. At Bedford Avenue, the 2nd stoplight, make a right. Go under the
bridge (you'll be in the south streets) and continue on to North 6th street
(about 10 blocks). At North 6 Street make a left and we're 2 1/2 blocks
down, on the left at #70. We're between Wythe Avenue and Kent Avenue.
Once you're off the bridge the streets are all small streets with slow,
neighborhood traffic. So you'll have lots of time to see street signs and
make decisions.

>From the BQE (West) - Take the Metropolitan Avenue exit. At the bottom of
the exit you'll be at a set of lights. Continue straight ahead to the next
set of lights. At those lights take a sharp right onto N. 6th. We're 6
blocks down at #70, between Wythe and Kent on the left.

>From the BQE (East) - Take the Metropolitan Avenue exit. At the end of the
exit, which is the 1st stoplight, turn left onto Metropolitan Avenue. Drive
on Metropolitan for 5 blocks to Bedford Avenue. Turn right onto Bedford
Avenue. At North 6 Street make a left and continue for 2 /2 blocks to #70.
We're between Wythe Avenue and Kent Avenue on the left.


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book to read and more

Altered State: The Story of Ecstasy Culture and Acid House 
by Matthew Collin
Paperback: 320 pages 
Publisher: Serpent's Tail; New Ed edition (4 Jun 1998) 
Language English 
ISBN-10: 1852426047 
ISBN-13: 978-1852426040 

I really like this book, I lent it out never got it back and need to buy it
again.  Covered the early origins very well and especially the way the culture
blew up in the early 90s in UK and mixed forces with travellers, environmental
movement, punks, and various groups disadvantaged by the economic recession
under Thatcher - but best part is that it gets out some of the original blend
of  alternative culture music/dance, 2ndWaveNewAge and radical politics in a
way that has been divided up and watered down.  And it covers the extreme
repression of the Criminal Justice bill in 1994 aimed at free gatherings
dancing to repetitive beats - yes for real - and all that came before the more
radical laws against individuals and groups after 911 - the new so called
"anti-terror" laws in the US and UK also aim to disable people from freely
gathering together.

Collin's book captures it all so well though - the fun fresh sense of it all and
then the cynicism and fall out - but I think we've heading back into a new
period of cultural shake up and shake out - people maybe are getting ready to
get aware of what has come before - and really maybe a deep forgetting of it
all was needed...

Much respect locally to people involved with blackkat and renegade virus and
others who keep some of that free-party and politics connected up around NYC.
 Check out Jasper's forwarded post from blackkat and join up for the parade!

This is a weekend not just for NYers but any of you on the east coast.
You folks really should come out and visit NYC on May 19th  - there are sure to
be many things to dance to from the parade and on into sunrise the next day.

I know some of you on here were on ne-raves back in the early 90s when no one
gave it a second thought to travel for hours to get to a rave.
 peace...
  ralph/kairos

Quoting Ed Hoc <meatsock@gmail.com>:

> that book-report thread got me thinking. i *know* there's plenty
> missing from this list, is there a better version of this list out
> there already? if not, what else can you add here?
> 
> ----
> Generation Ecstasy: Into the World of Techno and Rave Culture
> by Simon Reynolds
>    * ISBN: 0415923735
> 
> Rave America: New School Dancescapes
> by Mireille Silcott
>    * ISBN: 1550223836
>    * Pub. Date: November 1999
> 
> http://music.hyperreal.org/library/
> 
> http://media.hyperreal.org/library/
> 
> Last Night a DJ Saved My Life by Bill Brewster
> *isbn 0-8021-3688-5 (theres also a new revision out)
> 
> Techno Rebels by Dan Sicko
> *isbn 0-8230-8428-0
> 
> Class of 88 by Wayne Anthony
> PDF Download:
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Fly: The Art of the Club Flyer
Highflyers
Nocturnal: Global Highflyers

On 5/5/07, Ed Hoc <meatsock@gmail.com> wrote:
> that book-report thread got me thinking. i *know* there's plenty
> missing from this list, is there a better version of this list out
> there already? if not, what else can you add here?
>
> ----
> Generation Ecstasy: Into the World of Techno and Rave Culture
> by Simon Reynolds
>    * ISBN: 0415923735
>
> Rave America: New School Dancescapes
> by Mireille Silcott
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>    * Pub. Date: November 1999
>
> http://music.hyperreal.org/library/
>
> http://media.hyperreal.org/library/
>
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> *isbn 0-8021-3688-5 (theres also a new revision out)
>
> Techno Rebels by Dan Sicko
> *isbn 0-8230-8428-0
>
> Class of 88 by Wayne Anthony
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Looks like he'll be in NY 7/19 and 7/20 -- anyone know if he's coming =20=

to New England? There's no info on tiesto.com yet.
If not - anyone from the Boston area want to road trip down to NY or =20
DC or both?

Allie
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> TIESTO "Elements Of Life" Tour
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> Ti=EBsto - "Elements Of Life" North America Tour 2007
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Subject: [ne-raves] 05/11: The Secret Night of Science @ LOVE (NYC)

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Friday May 11, 2007

Breakbeat Science and Telluric Recordings present:

The Secret Night of Science

Empire Strikes Back Movie Screening from 9pm-11pm.

Drum & Bass from 11pm - 6am w/ DJs:
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Doors open 8:30pm - 6:00am

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Subject: [ne-raves] NYC - Fwd: [nyeaf] New Generation of Installation Artists May 12 - June 2

This is not a rave event so don't go, come back and then write me hate mail.
This is for the benefit of the post-rave, geriatric, grups on the list. They
Might Be Giants is kinda ravey right?


> Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 10:35:55 -0400
> From: Harvestworks <news@harvestworks.org>
> 
> The New York Electronic Art Festival Presents New Installation Art
> 
> NYEAF's premiere event focuses on eight digital artists who explore the
> poetics of sound and image/light through electronic media
> 
> The premiere event from The New York Electronic Art Festival (NYEAF), a
> month-long series of exhibitions, concerts and workshops that celebrate
> cutting-edge work at the intersection between art and technology, will be
> installation art from eight digital artists who explore the poetics of sound
> and image/light through electronic media.  Audio/Visual: A New Generation of
> Installation Artists can be viewed Tuesday to Saturday, noon to 6 PM, May
> 12th through June 2nd at LMCC's Swing Space at 38 Park Row.  The event is
> free.
> .
> "We're very pleased to offer some of the best work from a new generation of
> installation artists at our opening event," said Carol Parkinson,
> Harvestworks Executive Director.  "The NYEAF, now in its first year, will
> offer the best work from New York City resident artists as well as the most
> exciting work from around the globe. Featuring artists from Trimpin to They
> Might Be Giants, the festival's events promise to draw a huge audience from a
> wide spectrum of music and art lovers."
> 
> For more information, visit www.NYEAF.org.
> 
> 
> AudioVisual: A New Generation of Installation Artists
> 
> May 12 - June 2, Tuesday to Saturday, noon to 6 PM
> 
> at 38 Park Row
> 
> 
> 
> Opening Reception, Saturday, May 12, 4 - 6 pm
> 
> 
> NYEAF's opening event, Audio/Visual: A New Generation of Installation Artists
> features six installations by a new generation of digital artists who explore
> the poetics of sound and image/light through electronic media. Featured
> Artists: Karina Aguilera Skvirsky, Olen Hsu, Hisao Ihara, LoVid, Terry
> Nauheim, Rashaad Newsome, Phoenix Perry, and Douglas Repetto.
> 
> 
> 
> Special Saturday Presentations 4 - 6 pm at 38 Park Row -- FREE
> 
> May 19:  Hisao Ihara  / Karina Aguilera Skvirsky
> 
> May 26:  Phoenix Perry  / Olen Hsu / Rashaad Newsome
> 
> 
> 
> About the Artists and the works
> 
> Karina Aguilera Skvirsky's El Espectáculo is a three-channel video based on
> celebrity trials and daytime talk shows, An original soundtrack is
> synchronized with the movements of the mass media characters, suggesting a
> choreographed dance within the tableau.  Karina Aguilera Skvirsky is a
> photographer and video artist who has exhibited internationally in group and
> solo shows. She has been an artist in residence at Harvestworks, Smack
> Mellon, the Lower Manhattan Cultural Council Workspace and the MacDowell
> Artist Colony.
> 
> 
> Olen Hsu's sculpture and sound installation Drift (II) (2007) charts the
> prehistory of the digital network, situating itself in the era of the
> gramophone. Hsu's delicate apparatus emits a sound composition created with
> numerical oceanographic data of the past two hundred years.  Olen Hsu
> constructs installations in porcelain, paper and algorithmically composed
> sound, converging new media, tactile forms, and acoustic musical instruments.
> Hsu holds degrees in music, art history, ceramics, and sculpture from Yale
> University, the Kansas City Art Institute, and The School of the Art
> Institute of Chicago.
> 
> 
> Hisao Ihara's video installation The Collapsing Wall transforms a collection
> of documentary moving images of war from the beginning of 20th century to the
> present into a large, evocative, vertical projection space.  Originally from
> Tokyo, Hisao Ihara currently lives in New York City. His work explores the
> intricate overlay of time and visual perception within immersive video
> environments. Ihara holds a BFA from the Cornish College of the Arts and an
> MFA from Alfred University.
> 
> 
> Cross Current Resonance Transducer, a sculptural-graphic collaboration
> between LoVid (Tali Hinkis and Kyle Lapidus) and Douglas Repetto, addresses
> the processes of interpretation and evaluation inherent in human attempts to
> understand natural phenomena. LoVid is an interdisciplinary artist duo
> composed of Tali Hinkis and Kyle Lapidus. Their work includes live video
> installations, sculptures, digital prints, patchworks, media projects,
> performances, and video recordings. Douglas Irving Repetto's work includes
> sculpture, installation, performance, recordings, and software, and has been
> presented internationally. Douglas is also a teacher and Director of Research
> at the Columbia University Computer Music Center. He lives in New York City.
> 
> 
> Terry Nauheim's Rotating is a multi-channel audio/single channel video
> installation built from recorded and processed sound fragments of hand-cast
> record negatives and their corresponding recorded drawings. Terry Nauheim
> explores sound and visual relationships through digital media, drawing, and
> installation. She has an MFA from the University of Maryland and a BFA from
> Washington University. Nauheim currently lives and works in New York, where
> she teaches computer arts at New York Institute of Technology and New York
> University.
> 
> 
> Rashaad Newsome's The Conductor is a series of single-channel video
> projections. Rashaad uses processed video juxtaposing imagery associated with
> popular black youth culture and audio rooted in eurocentrism.  A native of
> New Orleans where he received a BFA from Tulaine University,  Rashaad Newsome
> studied film and video in New York where he currently lives. His work
> integrates photography, sound, performance, and video to explore and question
> prevailing media representations of black culture in North America.
> 
> 
> Phoenix Perry's Honey is an interactive game exploring issues of survival and
> the environment.  This powerful game demonstrates even the smallest
> creatures' vital importance to their ecosystem as they struggle to survive in
> a unique, fantasy-world.  Phoenix Perry's creative media include,
> installation, video, live performance, sculpture, sound, and painting. Her
> works have been screened at Lincoln Center, NYC, the Santa Fe Art Institute,
> the Austin Museum of Digital Art, and the Yerba Buena Center for the Arts.
> She currently lives in Brooklyn, New York.
> 
> 
> 
> "Harvestworks brings together innovative practitioners from all branches of
> the digital arts and makes them available to artists, curators, and
> collectors."
> 
> 
> 
> 
> About NYEAF
> 
> The New York Electronic Art Festival is produced by Harvestworks, the New
> York University Music Technology Program, and LEMUR: League of Electronic
> Musical Urban Robots, with support from New York University's Interactive
> Telecommunications Program, Eyebeam Art and Technology Center, the Columbia
> University Computer Music Center, Roulette, Electronic Music Foundation, 3LD
> Art and Technology Center, Lower Manhattan Cultural Council, and the
> Institute of Electronic Art. Additional support is from the National
> Endowment for the Arts, the New York State Council on the Arts, the Mary
> Flagler Cary Charitable Trust, mediaThe foundation, the Lower Manhattan
> Cultural Council's Swing Space @ 38 Park Row, the Experimental TV Center
> Presentation Program, Cycling 74, Tekserve and Newmark Knight Frank. Lower
> Manhattan Cultural Council's Swing Space.
> NYEAF is a Harvestworks 30th Anniversary Event.  A highlight of the festival
> is the 2007 International Conference on New Interfaces for Musical Expression
> (NIME 2007), now in its 7th year, convening for the first time in New York.
> 
> 
> About Swing Space and Lower Manhattan Cultural Council (LMCC)
> 
> Lower Manhattan Cultural Council is the leading voice for arts and culture in
> downtown New York City, producing cultural events and promoting the arts
> through grants, services, advocacy, and cultural development programs. Lower
> Manhattan Cultural Council's Swing Space Program is made possible by the
> support of the September 11th Fund. Space generously donated by Time
> Equities.   www.lmcc.net/
> 
> 
> AudioVisual: New Installation Art is made possible by Swing Space, a program
> of Lower Manhattan Cultural Council, generously supported by the September
> 11th Fund. Space donated by Silverstein Properties.
> 
> _______________________________________________________________________
> Harvestworks is a nonprofit Digital Media Arts Center that provides
> resources for artists to learn digital tools and exhibit experimental
> work created with digital technologies.  Our programs are made possible
> with funds from mediaThe foundation, New York State Council on the
> Arts, the National Endowment for the Arts, the NYC Dept. of Cultural
> Affairs, Materials for the Arts, The Experimental TV Center, the Mary
> Flagler Cary Trust, the Aaron Copland Fund, The Greenwall Foundation,
> the Jerome Foundation, Foundation for Contemporary Performance Arts, JP
> Morgan Chase Foundation and the Rodney White Foundation.
> _______________________________________________________________________
> 
> HARVESTWORKS Digital Media Arts Center
> 596 Broadway, Suite 602 (at Houston St)
> New York, NY 10012
> Tel: 212-431-1130
> http://www.harvestworks.org
> Subway: F/V Broadway/Lafayette, 6 Bleeker, W/R Prince
> _______________________________________________________________________
> 


 
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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] NYC - Fwd: [nyeaf] New Generation of Installation Artists May 12 - June 2

i don't see any mention of tiesto here. i demand a banning.

On 5/9/07, Spurty <spurty_brown@yahoo.com> wrote:
> This is not a rave event so don't go, come back and then write me hate ma=
il.
> This is for the benefit of the post-rave, geriatric, grups on the list. T=
hey
> Might Be Giants is kinda ravey right?
>
>
> > Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 10:35:55 -0400
> > From: Harvestworks <news@harvestworks.org>
> >
> > The New York Electronic Art Festival Presents New Installation Art
> >
> > NYEAF's premiere event focuses on eight digital artists who explore the
> > poetics of sound and image/light through electronic media
> >
> > The premiere event from The New York Electronic Art Festival (NYEAF), a
> > month-long series of exhibitions, concerts and workshops that celebrate
> > cutting-edge work at the intersection between art and technology, will =
be
> > installation art from eight digital artists who explore the poetics of =
sound
> > and image/light through electronic media.  Audio/Visual: A New Generati=
on of
> > Installation Artists can be viewed Tuesday to Saturday, noon to 6 PM, M=
ay
> > 12th through June 2nd at LMCC's Swing Space at 38 Park Row.  The event =
is
> > free.
> > .
> > "We're very pleased to offer some of the best work from a new generatio=
n of
> > installation artists at our opening event," said Carol Parkinson,
> > Harvestworks Executive Director.  "The NYEAF, now in its first year, wi=
ll
> > offer the best work from New York City resident artists as well as the =
most
> > exciting work from around the globe. Featuring artists from Trimpin to =
They
> > Might Be Giants, the festival's events promise to draw a huge audience =
from a
> > wide spectrum of music and art lovers."
> >
> > For more information, visit www.NYEAF.org.
> >
> >
> > AudioVisual: A New Generation of Installation Artists
> >
> > May 12 - June 2, Tuesday to Saturday, noon to 6 PM
> >
> > at 38 Park Row
> >
> >
> >
> > Opening Reception, Saturday, May 12, 4 - 6 pm
> >
> >
> > NYEAF's opening event, Audio/Visual: A New Generation of Installation A=
rtists
> > features six installations by a new generation of digital artists who e=
xplore
> > the poetics of sound and image/light through electronic media. Featured
> > Artists: Karina Aguilera Skvirsky, Olen Hsu, Hisao Ihara, LoVid, Terry
> > Nauheim, Rashaad Newsome, Phoenix Perry, and Douglas Repetto.
> >
> >
> >
> > Special Saturday Presentations 4 - 6 pm at 38 Park Row -- FREE
> >
> > May 19:  Hisao Ihara  / Karina Aguilera Skvirsky
> >
> > May 26:  Phoenix Perry  / Olen Hsu / Rashaad Newsome
> >
> >
> >
> > About the Artists and the works
> >
> > Karina Aguilera Skvirsky's El Espect=E1culo is a three-channel video ba=
sed on
> > celebrity trials and daytime talk shows, An original soundtrack is
> > synchronized with the movements of the mass media characters, suggestin=
g a
> > choreographed dance within the tableau.  Karina Aguilera Skvirsky is a
> > photographer and video artist who has exhibited internationally in grou=
p and
> > solo shows. She has been an artist in residence at Harvestworks, Smack
> > Mellon, the Lower Manhattan Cultural Council Workspace and the MacDowel=
l
> > Artist Colony.
> >
> >
> > Olen Hsu's sculpture and sound installation Drift (II) (2007) charts th=
e
> > prehistory of the digital network, situating itself in the era of the
> > gramophone. Hsu's delicate apparatus emits a sound composition created =
with
> > numerical oceanographic data of the past two hundred years.  Olen Hsu
> > constructs installations in porcelain, paper and algorithmically compos=
ed
> > sound, converging new media, tactile forms, and acoustic musical instru=
ments.
> > Hsu holds degrees in music, art history, ceramics, and sculpture from Y=
ale
> > University, the Kansas City Art Institute, and The School of the Art
> > Institute of Chicago.
> >
> >
> > Hisao Ihara's video installation The Collapsing Wall transforms a colle=
ction
> > of documentary moving images of war from the beginning of 20th century =
to the
> > present into a large, evocative, vertical projection space.  Originally=
 from
> > Tokyo, Hisao Ihara currently lives in New York City. His work explores =
the
> > intricate overlay of time and visual perception within immersive video
> > environments. Ihara holds a BFA from the Cornish College of the Arts an=
d an
> > MFA from Alfred University.
> >
> >
> > Cross Current Resonance Transducer, a sculptural-graphic collaboration
> > between LoVid (Tali Hinkis and Kyle Lapidus) and Douglas Repetto, addre=
sses
> > the processes of interpretation and evaluation inherent in human attemp=
ts to
> > understand natural phenomena. LoVid is an interdisciplinary artist duo
> > composed of Tali Hinkis and Kyle Lapidus. Their work includes live vide=
o
> > installations, sculptures, digital prints, patchworks, media projects,
> > performances, and video recordings. Douglas Irving Repetto's work inclu=
des
> > sculpture, installation, performance, recordings, and software, and has=
 been
> > presented internationally. Douglas is also a teacher and Director of Re=
search
> > at the Columbia University Computer Music Center. He lives in New York =
City.
> >
> >
> > Terry Nauheim's Rotating is a multi-channel audio/single channel video
> > installation built from recorded and processed sound fragments of hand-=
cast
> > record negatives and their corresponding recorded drawings. Terry Nauhe=
im
> > explores sound and visual relationships through digital media, drawing,=
 and
> > installation. She has an MFA from the University of Maryland and a BFA =
from
> > Washington University. Nauheim currently lives and works in New York, w=
here
> > she teaches computer arts at New York Institute of Technology and New Y=
ork
> > University.
> >
> >
> > Rashaad Newsome's The Conductor is a series of single-channel video
> > projections. Rashaad uses processed video juxtaposing imagery associate=
d with
> > popular black youth culture and audio rooted in eurocentrism.  A native=
 of
> > New Orleans where he received a BFA from Tulaine University,  Rashaad N=
ewsome
> > studied film and video in New York where he currently lives. His work
> > integrates photography, sound, performance, and video to explore and qu=
estion
> > prevailing media representations of black culture in North America.
> >
> >
> > Phoenix Perry's Honey is an interactive game exploring issues of surviv=
al and
> > the environment.  This powerful game demonstrates even the smallest
> > creatures' vital importance to their ecosystem as they struggle to surv=
ive in
> > a unique, fantasy-world.  Phoenix Perry's creative media include,
> > installation, video, live performance, sculpture, sound, and painting. =
Her
> > works have been screened at Lincoln Center, NYC, the Santa Fe Art Insti=
tute,
> > the Austin Museum of Digital Art, and the Yerba Buena Center for the Ar=
ts.
> > She currently lives in Brooklyn, New York.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Harvestworks brings together innovative practitioners from all branche=
s of
> > the digital arts and makes them available to artists, curators, and
> > collectors."
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > About NYEAF
> >
> > The New York Electronic Art Festival is produced by Harvestworks, the N=
ew
> > York University Music Technology Program, and LEMUR: League of Electron=
ic
> > Musical Urban Robots, with support from New York University's Interacti=
ve
> > Telecommunications Program, Eyebeam Art and Technology Center, the Colu=
mbia
> > University Computer Music Center, Roulette, Electronic Music Foundation=
, 3LD
> > Art and Technology Center, Lower Manhattan Cultural Council, and the
> > Institute of Electronic Art. Additional support is from the National
> > Endowment for the Arts, the New York State Council on the Arts, the Mar=
y
> > Flagler Cary Charitable Trust, mediaThe foundation, the Lower Manhattan
> > Cultural Council's Swing Space @ 38 Park Row, the Experimental TV Cente=
r
> > Presentation Program, Cycling 74, Tekserve and Newmark Knight Frank. Lo=
wer
> > Manhattan Cultural Council's Swing Space.
> > NYEAF is a Harvestworks 30th Anniversary Event.  A highlight of the fes=
tival
> > is the 2007 International Conference on New Interfaces for Musical Expr=
ession
> > (NIME 2007), now in its 7th year, convening for the first time in New Y=
ork.
> >
> >
> > About Swing Space and Lower Manhattan Cultural Council (LMCC)
> >
> > Lower Manhattan Cultural Council is the leading voice for arts and cult=
ure in
> > downtown New York City, producing cultural events and promoting the art=
s
> > through grants, services, advocacy, and cultural development programs. =
Lower
> > Manhattan Cultural Council's Swing Space Program is made possible by th=
e
> > support of the September 11th Fund. Space generously donated by Time
> > Equities.   www.lmcc.net/
> >
> >
> > AudioVisual: New Installation Art is made possible by Swing Space, a pr=
ogram
> > of Lower Manhattan Cultural Council, generously supported by the Septem=
ber
> > 11th Fund. Space donated by Silverstein Properties.
> >
> > _______________________________________________________________________
> > Harvestworks is a nonprofit Digital Media Arts Center that provides
> > resources for artists to learn digital tools and exhibit experimental
> > work created with digital technologies.  Our programs are made possible
> > with funds from mediaThe foundation, New York State Council on the
> > Arts, the National Endowment for the Arts, the NYC Dept. of Cultural
> > Affairs, Materials for the Arts, The Experimental TV Center, the Mary
> > Flagler Cary Trust, the Aaron Copland Fund, The Greenwall Foundation,
> > the Jerome Foundation, Foundation for Contemporary Performance Arts, JP
> > Morgan Chase Foundation and the Rodney White Foundation.
> > _______________________________________________________________________
> >
> > HARVESTWORKS Digital Media Arts Center
> > 596 Broadway, Suite 602 (at Houston St)
> > New York, NY 10012
> > Tel: 212-431-1130
> > http://www.harvestworks.org
> > Subway: F/V Broadway/Lafayette, 6 Bleeker, W/R Prince
> > _______________________________________________________________________
> >
>
>
>
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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] NYC - Fwd: [nyeaf] New Generation of Installation Artists May 12 - June 2

Hey man, Tiesto ain't the only way to attain nirvana and get to the Promised
Land. Sure, there's no denying his godliness when spinning like a top sucking
on a lollipop. But like turn on, tune in, drop out man. I bet it'll feel just
like Richard James DJing some blissed out but tweaker blueroom set.

By the way, is it just me or do the new Bjork and Nine Inch Nails albums sound
like they've really embraced the glitch and digital hardcore from around the
turn of the decade? Some really angry protestations. "Declare Independence"
almost sounds like ATR. And Trent no longer has as much to prove after getting
the anti-pop of Downward Spiral on heavy radio rotation. I haven't listened to
them since Spiral but got curious recently. It's not as fast, not as noisy and
more melodic but just as angry, chunky and hard. And damn! He's a monster now.
No longer the geek catching beat downs in the hallway. Looks like Trent's been
drinking his juice. 

This all comes years late but oh well. At least it's better stuff for our boys
and girls to listen to in their tanks as they're rolling thru Bahgdad instead
of Toby Keith. Looks like digicore is the new punk.


--- Ed Hoc <meatsock@gmail.com> wrote:

> i don't see any mention of tiesto here. i demand a banning.
> 
> On 5/9/07, Spurty <spurty_brown@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > This is not a rave event so don't go, come back and then write me hate
> mail.
> > This is for the benefit of the post-rave, geriatric, grups on the list.
> They
> > Might Be Giants is kinda ravey right?
> >
> >
> > > Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 10:35:55 -0400
> > > From: Harvestworks <news@harvestworks.org>
> > >
> > > The New York Electronic Art Festival Presents New Installation Art
> > >
> > > NYEAF's premiere event focuses on eight digital artists who explore the
> > > poetics of sound and image/light through electronic media
> > >
> > > The premiere event from The New York Electronic Art Festival (NYEAF), a
> > > month-long series of exhibitions, concerts and workshops that celebrate
> > > cutting-edge work at the intersection between art and technology, will be
> > > installation art from eight digital artists who explore the poetics of
> sound
> > > and image/light through electronic media.  Audio/Visual: A New Generation
> of
> > > Installation Artists can be viewed Tuesday to Saturday, noon to 6 PM, May
> > > 12th through June 2nd at LMCC's Swing Space at 38 Park Row.  The event is
> > > free.
> > > .
> > > "We're very pleased to offer some of the best work from a new generation
> of
> > > installation artists at our opening event," said Carol Parkinson,
> > > Harvestworks Executive Director.  "The NYEAF, now in its first year, will
> > > offer the best work from New York City resident artists as well as the
> most
> > > exciting work from around the globe. Featuring artists from Trimpin to
> They
> > > Might Be Giants, the festival's events promise to draw a huge audience
> from a
> > > wide spectrum of music and art lovers."
> > >
> > > For more information, visit www.NYEAF.org.
> > >
> > >
> > > AudioVisual: A New Generation of Installation Artists
> > >
> > > May 12 - June 2, Tuesday to Saturday, noon to 6 PM
> > >
> > > at 38 Park Row
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Opening Reception, Saturday, May 12, 4 - 6 pm
> > >
> > >
> > > NYEAF's opening event, Audio/Visual: A New Generation of Installation
> Artists
> > > features six installations by a new generation of digital artists who
> explore
> > > the poetics of sound and image/light through electronic media. Featured
> > > Artists: Karina Aguilera Skvirsky, Olen Hsu, Hisao Ihara, LoVid, Terry
> > > Nauheim, Rashaad Newsome, Phoenix Perry, and Douglas Repetto.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Special Saturday Presentations 4 - 6 pm at 38 Park Row -- FREE
> > >
> > > May 19:  Hisao Ihara  / Karina Aguilera Skvirsky
> > >
> > > May 26:  Phoenix Perry  / Olen Hsu / Rashaad Newsome
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > About the Artists and the works
> > >
> > > Karina Aguilera Skvirsky's El Espectáculo is a three-channel video based
> on
> > > celebrity trials and daytime talk shows, An original soundtrack is
> > > synchronized with the movements of the mass media characters, suggesting
> a
> > > choreographed dance within the tableau.  Karina Aguilera Skvirsky is a
> > > photographer and video artist who has exhibited internationally in group
> and
> > > solo shows. She has been an artist in residence at Harvestworks, Smack
> > > Mellon, the Lower Manhattan Cultural Council Workspace and the MacDowell
> > > Artist Colony.
> > >
> > >
> > > Olen Hsu's sculpture and sound installation Drift (II) (2007) charts the
> > > prehistory of the digital network, situating itself in the era of the
> > > gramophone. Hsu's delicate apparatus emits a sound composition created
> with
> > > numerical oceanographic data of the past two hundred years.  Olen Hsu
> > > constructs installations in porcelain, paper and algorithmically composed
> > > sound, converging new media, tactile forms, and acoustic musical
> instruments.
> > > Hsu holds degrees in music, art history, ceramics, and sculpture from
> Yale
> > > University, the Kansas City Art Institute, and The School of the Art
> > > Institute of Chicago.
> > >
> > >
> > > Hisao Ihara's video installation The Collapsing Wall transforms a
> collection
> > > of documentary moving images of war from the beginning of 20th century to
> the
> > > present into a large, evocative, vertical projection space.  Originally
> from
> > > Tokyo, Hisao Ihara currently lives in New York City. His work explores
> the
> > > intricate overlay of time and visual perception within immersive video
> > > environments. Ihara holds a BFA from the Cornish College of the Arts and
> an
> > > MFA from Alfred University.
> > >
> > >
> > > Cross Current Resonance Transducer, a sculptural-graphic collaboration
> > > between LoVid (Tali Hinkis and Kyle Lapidus) and Douglas Repetto,
> addresses
> > > the processes of interpretation and evaluation inherent in human attempts
> to
> > > understand natural phenomena. LoVid is an interdisciplinary artist duo
> > > composed of Tali Hinkis and Kyle Lapidus. Their work includes live video
> > > installations, sculptures, digital prints, patchworks, media projects,
> > > performances, and video recordings. Douglas Irving Repetto's work
> includes
> > > sculpture, installation, performance, recordings, and software, and has
> been
> > > presented internationally. Douglas is also a teacher and Director of
> Research
> > > at the Columbia University Computer Music Center. He lives in New York
> City.
> > >
> > >
> > > Terry Nauheim's Rotating is a multi-channel audio/single channel video
> > > installation built from recorded and processed sound fragments of
> hand-cast
> > > record negatives and their corresponding recorded drawings. Terry Nauheim
> > > explores sound and visual relationships through digital media, drawing,
> and
> > > installation. She has an MFA from the University of Maryland and a BFA
> from
> > > Washington University. Nauheim currently lives and works in New York,
> where
> > > she teaches computer arts at New York Institute of Technology and New
> York
> > > University.
> > >
> > >
> > > Rashaad Newsome's The Conductor is a series of single-channel video
> > > projections. Rashaad uses processed video juxtaposing imagery associated
> with
> > > popular black youth culture and audio rooted in eurocentrism.  A native
> of
> > > New Orleans where he received a BFA from Tulaine University,  Rashaad
> Newsome
> > > studied film and video in New York where he currently lives. His work
> > > integrates photography, sound, performance, and video to explore and
> question
> > > prevailing media representations of black culture in North America.
> > >
> > >
> > > Phoenix Perry's Honey is an interactive game exploring issues of survival
> and
> > > the environment.  This powerful game demonstrates even the smallest
> > > creatures' vital importance to their ecosystem as they struggle to
> survive in
> > > a unique, fantasy-world.  Phoenix Perry's creative media include,
> > > installation, video, live performance, sculpture, sound, and painting.
> Her
> > > works have been screened at Lincoln Center, NYC, the Santa Fe Art
> Institute,
> > > the Austin Museum of Digital Art, and the Yerba Buena Center for the
> Arts.
> > > She currently lives in Brooklyn, New York.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Harvestworks brings together innovative practitioners from all branches
> of
> > > the digital arts and makes them available to artists, curators, and
> > > collectors."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > About NYEAF
> > >
> > > The New York Electronic Art Festival is produced by Harvestworks, the New
> > > York University Music Technology Program, and LEMUR: League of Electronic
> > > Musical Urban Robots, with support from New York University's Interactive
> > > Telecommunications Program, Eyebeam Art and Technology Center, the
> Columbia
> > > University Computer Music Center, Roulette, Electronic Music Foundation,
> 3LD
> > > Art and Technology Center, Lower Manhattan Cultural Council, and the
> > > Institute of Electronic Art. Additional support is from the National
> > > Endowment for the Arts, the New York State Council on the Arts, the Mary
> > > Flagler Cary Charitable Trust, mediaThe foundation, the Lower Manhattan
> > > Cultural Council's Swing Space @ 38 Park Row, the Experimental TV Center
> > > Presentation Program, Cycling 74, Tekserve and Newmark Knight Frank.
> Lower
> > > Manhattan Cultural Council's Swing Space.
> > > NYEAF is a Harvestworks 30th Anniversary Event.  A highlight of the
> festival
> > > is the 2007 International Conference on New Interfaces for Musical
> Expression
> > > (NIME 2007), now in its 7th year, convening for the first time in New
> York.
> > >
> > >
> > > About Swing Space and Lower Manhattan Cultural Council (LMCC)
> > >
> > > Lower Manhattan Cultural Council is the leading voice for arts and
> culture in
> > > downtown New York City, producing cultural events and promoting the arts
> > > through grants, services, advocacy, and cultural development programs.
> Lower
> > > Manhattan Cultural Council's Swing Space Program is made possible by the
> > > support of the September 11th Fund. Space generously donated by Time
> > > Equities.   www.lmcc.net/
> > >
> > >
> > > AudioVisual: New Installation Art is made possible by Swing Space, a
> program
> > > of Lower Manhattan Cultural Council, generously supported by the
> September
> > > 11th Fund. Space donated by Silverstein Properties.
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________________________________
> > > Harvestworks is a nonprofit Digital Media Arts Center that provides
> > > resources for artists to learn digital tools and exhibit experimental
> > > work created with digital technologies.  Our programs are made possible
> > > with funds from mediaThe foundation, New York State Council on the
> > > Arts, the National Endowment for the Arts, the NYC Dept. of Cultural
> > > Affairs, Materials for the Arts, The Experimental TV Center, the Mary
> > > Flagler Cary Trust, the Aaron Copland Fund, The Greenwall Foundation,
> > > the Jerome Foundation, Foundation for Contemporary Performance Arts, JP
> > > Morgan Chase Foundation and the Rodney White Foundation.
> > > _______________________________________________________________________
> > >
> > > HARVESTWORKS Digital Media Arts Center
> > > 596 Broadway, Suite 602 (at Houston St)
> > > New York, NY 10012
> > > Tel: 212-431-1130
> > > http://www.harvestworks.org
> > > Subway: F/V Broadway/Lafayette, 6 Bleeker, W/R Prince
> > > _______________________________________________________________________
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] NYC - Fwd: [nyeaf] New Generation of Installation
 Artists May 12 - June 2

not to sound negative but i dont like any of it...tiesto is super cheesy
paul van dyke and taucher are the only people in the genre i can deal with

----- Original Message -----
From: "Spurty" <spurty_brown@yahoo.com>
To: "Northeast Raves" <ne-raves@hyperreal.org>
Cc: "Ed Hoc" <meatsock@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: [ne-raves] NYC - Fwd: [nyeaf] New Generation of Installation
Artists May 12 - June 2


> Hey man, Tiesto ain't the only way to attain nirvana and get to the
Promised
> Land. Sure, there's no denying his godliness when spinning like a top
sucking
> on a lollipop. But like turn on, tune in, drop out man. I bet it'll feel
just
> like Richard James DJing some blissed out but tweaker blueroom set.
>
> By the way, is it just me or do the new Bjork and Nine Inch Nails albums
sound
> like they've really embraced the glitch and digital hardcore from around
the
> turn of the decade? Some really angry protestations. "Declare
Independence"
> almost sounds like ATR. And Trent no longer has as much to prove after
getting
> the anti-pop of Downward Spiral on heavy radio rotation. I haven't
listened to
> them since Spiral but got curious recently. It's not as fast, not as noisy
and
> more melodic but just as angry, chunky and hard. And damn! He's a monster
now.
> No longer the geek catching beat downs in the hallway. Looks like Trent's
been
> drinking his juice.
>
> This all comes years late but oh well. At least it's better stuff for our
boys
> and girls to listen to in their tanks as they're rolling thru Bahgdad
instead
> of Toby Keith. Looks like digicore is the new punk.
>
>
> --- Ed Hoc <meatsock@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > i don't see any mention of tiesto here. i demand a banning.
> >
> > On 5/9/07, Spurty <spurty_brown@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > This is not a rave event so don't go, come back and then write me hate
> > mail.
> > > This is for the benefit of the post-rave, geriatric, grups on the
list.
> > They
> > > Might Be Giants is kinda ravey right?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 10:35:55 -0400
> > > > From: Harvestworks <news@harvestworks.org>
> > > >
> > > > The New York Electronic Art Festival Presents New Installation Art
> > > >
> > > > NYEAF's premiere event focuses on eight digital artists who explore
the
> > > > poetics of sound and image/light through electronic media
> > > >
> > > > The premiere event from The New York Electronic Art Festival
(NYEAF), a
> > > > month-long series of exhibitions, concerts and workshops that
celebrate
> > > > cutting-edge work at the intersection between art and technology,
will be
> > > > installation art from eight digital artists who explore the poetics
of
> > sound
> > > > and image/light through electronic media.  Audio/Visual: A New
Generation
> > of
> > > > Installation Artists can be viewed Tuesday to Saturday, noon to 6
PM, May
> > > > 12th through June 2nd at LMCC's Swing Space at 38 Park Row.  The
event is
> > > > free.
> > > > .
> > > > "We're very pleased to offer some of the best work from a new
generation
> > of
> > > > installation artists at our opening event," said Carol Parkinson,
> > > > Harvestworks Executive Director.  "The NYEAF, now in its first year,
will
> > > > offer the best work from New York City resident artists as well as
the
> > most
> > > > exciting work from around the globe. Featuring artists from Trimpin
to
> > They
> > > > Might Be Giants, the festival's events promise to draw a huge
audience
> > from a
> > > > wide spectrum of music and art lovers."
> > > >
> > > > For more information, visit www.NYEAF.org.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > AudioVisual: A New Generation of Installation Artists
> > > >
> > > > May 12 - June 2, Tuesday to Saturday, noon to 6 PM
> > > >
> > > > at 38 Park Row
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Opening Reception, Saturday, May 12, 4 - 6 pm
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > NYEAF's opening event, Audio/Visual: A New Generation of
Installation
> > Artists
> > > > features six installations by a new generation of digital artists
who
> > explore
> > > > the poetics of sound and image/light through electronic media.
Featured
> > > > Artists: Karina Aguilera Skvirsky, Olen Hsu, Hisao Ihara, LoVid,
Terry
> > > > Nauheim, Rashaad Newsome, Phoenix Perry, and Douglas Repetto.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Special Saturday Presentations 4 - 6 pm at 38 Park Row -- FREE
> > > >
> > > > May 19:  Hisao Ihara  / Karina Aguilera Skvirsky
> > > >
> > > > May 26:  Phoenix Perry  / Olen Hsu / Rashaad Newsome
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > About the Artists and the works
> > > >
> > > > Karina Aguilera Skvirsky's El Espectáculo is a three-channel video
based
> > on
> > > > celebrity trials and daytime talk shows, An original soundtrack is
> > > > synchronized with the movements of the mass media characters,
suggesting
> > a
> > > > choreographed dance within the tableau.  Karina Aguilera Skvirsky is
a
> > > > photographer and video artist who has exhibited internationally in
group
> > and
> > > > solo shows. She has been an artist in residence at Harvestworks,
Smack
> > > > Mellon, the Lower Manhattan Cultural Council Workspace and the
MacDowell
> > > > Artist Colony.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Olen Hsu's sculpture and sound installation Drift (II) (2007) charts
the
> > > > prehistory of the digital network, situating itself in the era of
the
> > > > gramophone. Hsu's delicate apparatus emits a sound composition
created
> > with
> > > > numerical oceanographic data of the past two hundred years.  Olen
Hsu
> > > > constructs installations in porcelain, paper and algorithmically
composed
> > > > sound, converging new media, tactile forms, and acoustic musical
> > instruments.
> > > > Hsu holds degrees in music, art history, ceramics, and sculpture
from
> > Yale
> > > > University, the Kansas City Art Institute, and The School of the Art
> > > > Institute of Chicago.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hisao Ihara's video installation The Collapsing Wall transforms a
> > collection
> > > > of documentary moving images of war from the beginning of 20th
century to
> > the
> > > > present into a large, evocative, vertical projection space.
Originally
> > from
> > > > Tokyo, Hisao Ihara currently lives in New York City. His work
explores
> > the
> > > > intricate overlay of time and visual perception within immersive
video
> > > > environments. Ihara holds a BFA from the Cornish College of the Arts
and
> > an
> > > > MFA from Alfred University.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Cross Current Resonance Transducer, a sculptural-graphic
collaboration
> > > > between LoVid (Tali Hinkis and Kyle Lapidus) and Douglas Repetto,
> > addresses
> > > > the processes of interpretation and evaluation inherent in human
attempts
> > to
> > > > understand natural phenomena. LoVid is an interdisciplinary artist
duo
> > > > composed of Tali Hinkis and Kyle Lapidus. Their work includes live
video
> > > > installations, sculptures, digital prints, patchworks, media
projects,
> > > > performances, and video recordings. Douglas Irving Repetto's work
> > includes
> > > > sculpture, installation, performance, recordings, and software, and
has
> > been
> > > > presented internationally. Douglas is also a teacher and Director of
> > Research
> > > > at the Columbia University Computer Music Center. He lives in New
York
> > City.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Terry Nauheim's Rotating is a multi-channel audio/single channel
video
> > > > installation built from recorded and processed sound fragments of
> > hand-cast
> > > > record negatives and their corresponding recorded drawings. Terry
Nauheim
> > > > explores sound and visual relationships through digital media,
drawing,
> > and
> > > > installation. She has an MFA from the University of Maryland and a
BFA
> > from
> > > > Washington University. Nauheim currently lives and works in New
York,
> > where
> > > > she teaches computer arts at New York Institute of Technology and
New
> > York
> > > > University.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Rashaad Newsome's The Conductor is a series of single-channel video
> > > > projections. Rashaad uses processed video juxtaposing imagery
associated
> > with
> > > > popular black youth culture and audio rooted in eurocentrism.  A
native
> > of
> > > > New Orleans where he received a BFA from Tulaine University,
Rashaad
> > Newsome
> > > > studied film and video in New York where he currently lives. His
work
> > > > integrates photography, sound, performance, and video to explore and
> > question
> > > > prevailing media representations of black culture in North America.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Phoenix Perry's Honey is an interactive game exploring issues of
survival
> > and
> > > > the environment.  This powerful game demonstrates even the smallest
> > > > creatures' vital importance to their ecosystem as they struggle to
> > survive in
> > > > a unique, fantasy-world.  Phoenix Perry's creative media include,
> > > > installation, video, live performance, sculpture, sound, and
painting.
> > Her
> > > > works have been screened at Lincoln Center, NYC, the Santa Fe Art
> > Institute,
> > > > the Austin Museum of Digital Art, and the Yerba Buena Center for the
> > Arts.
> > > > She currently lives in Brooklyn, New York.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Harvestworks brings together innovative practitioners from all
branches
> > of
> > > > the digital arts and makes them available to artists, curators, and
> > > > collectors."
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > About NYEAF
> > > >
> > > > The New York Electronic Art Festival is produced by Harvestworks,
the New
> > > > York University Music Technology Program, and LEMUR: League of
Electronic
> > > > Musical Urban Robots, with support from New York University's
Interactive
> > > > Telecommunications Program, Eyebeam Art and Technology Center, the
> > Columbia
> > > > University Computer Music Center, Roulette, Electronic Music
Foundation,
> > 3LD
> > > > Art and Technology Center, Lower Manhattan Cultural Council, and the
> > > > Institute of Electronic Art. Additional support is from the National
> > > > Endowment for the Arts, the New York State Council on the Arts, the
Mary
> > > > Flagler Cary Charitable Trust, mediaThe foundation, the Lower
Manhattan
> > > > Cultural Council's Swing Space @ 38 Park Row, the Experimental TV
Center
> > > > Presentation Program, Cycling 74, Tekserve and Newmark Knight Frank.
> > Lower
> > > > Manhattan Cultural Council's Swing Space.
> > > > NYEAF is a Harvestworks 30th Anniversary Event.  A highlight of the
> > festival
> > > > is the 2007 International Conference on New Interfaces for Musical
> > Expression
> > > > (NIME 2007), now in its 7th year, convening for the first time in
New
> > York.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > About Swing Space and Lower Manhattan Cultural Council (LMCC)
> > > >
> > > > Lower Manhattan Cultural Council is the leading voice for arts and
> > culture in
> > > > downtown New York City, producing cultural events and promoting the
arts
> > > > through grants, services, advocacy, and cultural development
programs.
> > Lower
> > > > Manhattan Cultural Council's Swing Space Program is made possible by
the
> > > > support of the September 11th Fund. Space generously donated by Time
> > > > Equities.   www.lmcc.net/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > AudioVisual: New Installation Art is made possible by Swing Space, a
> > program
> > > > of Lower Manhattan Cultural Council, generously supported by the
> > September
> > > > 11th Fund. Space donated by Silverstein Properties.
> > > >
> > > >
_______________________________________________________________________
> > > > Harvestworks is a nonprofit Digital Media Arts Center that provides
> > > > resources for artists to learn digital tools and exhibit
experimental
> > > > work created with digital technologies.  Our programs are made
possible
> > > > with funds from mediaThe foundation, New York State Council on the
> > > > Arts, the National Endowment for the Arts, the NYC Dept. of Cultural
> > > > Affairs, Materials for the Arts, The Experimental TV Center, the
Mary
> > > > Flagler Cary Trust, the Aaron Copland Fund, The Greenwall
Foundation,
> > > > the Jerome Foundation, Foundation for Contemporary Performance Arts,
JP
> > > > Morgan Chase Foundation and the Rodney White Foundation.
> > > >
_______________________________________________________________________
> > > >
> > > > HARVESTWORKS Digital Media Arts Center
> > > > 596 Broadway, Suite 602 (at Houston St)
> > > > New York, NY 10012
> > > > Tel: 212-431-1130
> > > > http://www.harvestworks.org
> > > > Subway: F/V Broadway/Lafayette, 6 Bleeker, W/R Prince
> > > >
_______________________________________________________________________
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> > >
> > >
> > >
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> >
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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] NYC - Fwd: [nyeaf] New Generation of Installation Artists May 12 - June 2

oh come on everyone knows the real news about NIN is their
color-changing CDs. i hear that they turn pink after 1 month to let
you know the freshness indicator has expired.

On 5/9/07, Spurty <spurty_brown@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hey man, Tiesto ain't the only way to attain nirvana and get to the Promi=
sed
> Land. Sure, there's no denying his godliness when spinning like a top suc=
king
> on a lollipop. But like turn on, tune in, drop out man. I bet it'll feel =
just
> like Richard James DJing some blissed out but tweaker blueroom set.
>
> By the way, is it just me or do the new Bjork and Nine Inch Nails albums =
sound
> like they've really embraced the glitch and digital hardcore from around =
the
> turn of the decade? Some really angry protestations. "Declare Independenc=
e"
> almost sounds like ATR. And Trent no longer has as much to prove after ge=
tting
> the anti-pop of Downward Spiral on heavy radio rotation. I haven't listen=
ed to
> them since Spiral but got curious recently. It's not as fast, not as nois=
y and
> more melodic but just as angry, chunky and hard. And damn! He's a monster=
 now.
> No longer the geek catching beat downs in the hallway. Looks like Trent's=
 been
> drinking his juice.
>
> This all comes years late but oh well. At least it's better stuff for our=
 boys
> and girls to listen to in their tanks as they're rolling thru Bahgdad ins=
tead
> of Toby Keith. Looks like digicore is the new punk.
>
>
> --- Ed Hoc <meatsock@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > i don't see any mention of tiesto here. i demand a banning.
> >
> > On 5/9/07, Spurty <spurty_brown@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > This is not a rave event so don't go, come back and then write me hat=
e
> > mail.
> > > This is for the benefit of the post-rave, geriatric, grups on the lis=
t.
> > They
> > > Might Be Giants is kinda ravey right?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 10:35:55 -0400
> > > > From: Harvestworks <news@harvestworks.org>
> > > >
> > > > The New York Electronic Art Festival Presents New Installation Art
> > > >
> > > > NYEAF's premiere event focuses on eight digital artists who explore=
 the
> > > > poetics of sound and image/light through electronic media
> > > >
> > > > The premiere event from The New York Electronic Art Festival (NYEAF=
), a
> > > > month-long series of exhibitions, concerts and workshops that celeb=
rate
> > > > cutting-edge work at the intersection between art and technology, w=
ill be
> > > > installation art from eight digital artists who explore the poetics=
 of
> > sound
> > > > and image/light through electronic media.  Audio/Visual: A New Gene=
ration
> > of
> > > > Installation Artists can be viewed Tuesday to Saturday, noon to 6 P=
M, May
> > > > 12th through June 2nd at LMCC's Swing Space at 38 Park Row.  The ev=
ent is
> > > > free.
> > > > .
> > > > "We're very pleased to offer some of the best work from a new gener=
ation
> > of
> > > > installation artists at our opening event," said Carol Parkinson,
> > > > Harvestworks Executive Director.  "The NYEAF, now in its first year=
, will
> > > > offer the best work from New York City resident artists as well as =
the
> > most
> > > > exciting work from around the globe. Featuring artists from Trimpin=
 to
> > They
> > > > Might Be Giants, the festival's events promise to draw a huge audie=
nce
> > from a
> > > > wide spectrum of music and art lovers."
> > > >
> > > > For more information, visit www.NYEAF.org.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > AudioVisual: A New Generation of Installation Artists
> > > >
> > > > May 12 - June 2, Tuesday to Saturday, noon to 6 PM
> > > >
> > > > at 38 Park Row
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Opening Reception, Saturday, May 12, 4 - 6 pm
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > NYEAF's opening event, Audio/Visual: A New Generation of Installati=
on
> > Artists
> > > > features six installations by a new generation of digital artists w=
ho
> > explore
> > > > the poetics of sound and image/light through electronic media. Feat=
ured
> > > > Artists: Karina Aguilera Skvirsky, Olen Hsu, Hisao Ihara, LoVid, Te=
rry
> > > > Nauheim, Rashaad Newsome, Phoenix Perry, and Douglas Repetto.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Special Saturday Presentations 4 - 6 pm at 38 Park Row -- FREE
> > > >
> > > > May 19:  Hisao Ihara  / Karina Aguilera Skvirsky
> > > >
> > > > May 26:  Phoenix Perry  / Olen Hsu / Rashaad Newsome
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > About the Artists and the works
> > > >
> > > > Karina Aguilera Skvirsky's El Espect=E1culo is a three-channel vide=
o based
> > on
> > > > celebrity trials and daytime talk shows, An original soundtrack is
> > > > synchronized with the movements of the mass media characters, sugge=
sting
> > a
> > > > choreographed dance within the tableau.  Karina Aguilera Skvirsky i=
s a
> > > > photographer and video artist who has exhibited internationally in =
group
> > and
> > > > solo shows. She has been an artist in residence at Harvestworks, Sm=
ack
> > > > Mellon, the Lower Manhattan Cultural Council Workspace and the MacD=
owell
> > > > Artist Colony.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Olen Hsu's sculpture and sound installation Drift (II) (2007) chart=
s the
> > > > prehistory of the digital network, situating itself in the era of t=
he
> > > > gramophone. Hsu's delicate apparatus emits a sound composition crea=
ted
> > with
> > > > numerical oceanographic data of the past two hundred years.  Olen H=
su
> > > > constructs installations in porcelain, paper and algorithmically co=
mposed
> > > > sound, converging new media, tactile forms, and acoustic musical
> > instruments.
> > > > Hsu holds degrees in music, art history, ceramics, and sculpture fr=
om
> > Yale
> > > > University, the Kansas City Art Institute, and The School of the Ar=
t
> > > > Institute of Chicago.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hisao Ihara's video installation The Collapsing Wall transforms a
> > collection
> > > > of documentary moving images of war from the beginning of 20th cent=
ury to
> > the
> > > > present into a large, evocative, vertical projection space.  Origin=
ally
> > from
> > > > Tokyo, Hisao Ihara currently lives in New York City. His work explo=
res
> > the
> > > > intricate overlay of time and visual perception within immersive vi=
deo
> > > > environments. Ihara holds a BFA from the Cornish College of the Art=
s and
> > an
> > > > MFA from Alfred University.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Cross Current Resonance Transducer, a sculptural-graphic collaborat=
ion
> > > > between LoVid (Tali Hinkis and Kyle Lapidus) and Douglas Repetto,
> > addresses
> > > > the processes of interpretation and evaluation inherent in human at=
tempts
> > to
> > > > understand natural phenomena. LoVid is an interdisciplinary artist =
duo
> > > > composed of Tali Hinkis and Kyle Lapidus. Their work includes live =
video
> > > > installations, sculptures, digital prints, patchworks, media projec=
ts,
> > > > performances, and video recordings. Douglas Irving Repetto's work
> > includes
> > > > sculpture, installation, performance, recordings, and software, and=
 has
> > been
> > > > presented internationally. Douglas is also a teacher and Director o=
f
> > Research
> > > > at the Columbia University Computer Music Center. He lives in New Y=
ork
> > City.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Terry Nauheim's Rotating is a multi-channel audio/single channel vi=
deo
> > > > installation built from recorded and processed sound fragments of
> > hand-cast
> > > > record negatives and their corresponding recorded drawings. Terry N=
auheim
> > > > explores sound and visual relationships through digital media, draw=
ing,
> > and
> > > > installation. She has an MFA from the University of Maryland and a =
BFA
> > from
> > > > Washington University. Nauheim currently lives and works in New Yor=
k,
> > where
> > > > she teaches computer arts at New York Institute of Technology and N=
ew
> > York
> > > > University.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Rashaad Newsome's The Conductor is a series of single-channel video
> > > > projections. Rashaad uses processed video juxtaposing imagery assoc=
iated
> > with
> > > > popular black youth culture and audio rooted in eurocentrism.  A na=
tive
> > of
> > > > New Orleans where he received a BFA from Tulaine University,  Rasha=
ad
> > Newsome
> > > > studied film and video in New York where he currently lives. His wo=
rk
> > > > integrates photography, sound, performance, and video to explore an=
d
> > question
> > > > prevailing media representations of black culture in North America.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Phoenix Perry's Honey is an interactive game exploring issues of su=
rvival
> > and
> > > > the environment.  This powerful game demonstrates even the smallest
> > > > creatures' vital importance to their ecosystem as they struggle to
> > survive in
> > > > a unique, fantasy-world.  Phoenix Perry's creative media include,
> > > > installation, video, live performance, sculpture, sound, and painti=
ng.
> > Her
> > > > works have been screened at Lincoln Center, NYC, the Santa Fe Art
> > Institute,
> > > > the Austin Museum of Digital Art, and the Yerba Buena Center for th=
e
> > Arts.
> > > > She currently lives in Brooklyn, New York.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Harvestworks brings together innovative practitioners from all bra=
nches
> > of
> > > > the digital arts and makes them available to artists, curators, and
> > > > collectors."
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > About NYEAF
> > > >
> > > > The New York Electronic Art Festival is produced by Harvestworks, t=
he New
> > > > York University Music Technology Program, and LEMUR: League of Elec=
tronic
> > > > Musical Urban Robots, with support from New York University's Inter=
active
> > > > Telecommunications Program, Eyebeam Art and Technology Center, the
> > Columbia
> > > > University Computer Music Center, Roulette, Electronic Music Founda=
tion,
> > 3LD
> > > > Art and Technology Center, Lower Manhattan Cultural Council, and th=
e
> > > > Institute of Electronic Art. Additional support is from the Nationa=
l
> > > > Endowment for the Arts, the New York State Council on the Arts, the=
 Mary
> > > > Flagler Cary Charitable Trust, mediaThe foundation, the Lower Manha=
ttan
> > > > Cultural Council's Swing Space @ 38 Park Row, the Experimental TV C=
enter
> > > > Presentation Program, Cycling 74, Tekserve and Newmark Knight Frank=
.
> > Lower
> > > > Manhattan Cultural Council's Swing Space.
> > > > NYEAF is a Harvestworks 30th Anniversary Event.  A highlight of the
> > festival
> > > > is the 2007 International Conference on New Interfaces for Musical
> > Expression
> > > > (NIME 2007), now in its 7th year, convening for the first time in N=
ew
> > York.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > About Swing Space and Lower Manhattan Cultural Council (LMCC)
> > > >
> > > > Lower Manhattan Cultural Council is the leading voice for arts and
> > culture in
> > > > downtown New York City, producing cultural events and promoting the=
 arts
> > > > through grants, services, advocacy, and cultural development progra=
ms.
> > Lower
> > > > Manhattan Cultural Council's Swing Space Program is made possible b=
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> > > > support of the September 11th Fund. Space generously donated by Tim=
e
> > > > Equities.   www.lmcc.net/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > AudioVisual: New Installation Art is made possible by Swing Space, =
a
> > program
> > > > of Lower Manhattan Cultural Council, generously supported by the
> > September
> > > > 11th Fund. Space donated by Silverstein Properties.
> > > >
> > > > ___________________________________________________________________=
____
> > > > Harvestworks is a nonprofit Digital Media Arts Center that provides
> > > > resources for artists to learn digital tools and exhibit experiment=
al
> > > > work created with digital technologies.  Our programs are made poss=
ible
> > > > with funds from mediaThe foundation, New York State Council on the
> > > > Arts, the National Endowment for the Arts, the NYC Dept. of Cultura=
l
> > > > Affairs, Materials for the Arts, The Experimental TV Center, the Ma=
ry
> > > > Flagler Cary Trust, the Aaron Copland Fund, The Greenwall Foundatio=
n,
> > > > the Jerome Foundation, Foundation for Contemporary Performance Arts=
, JP
> > > > Morgan Chase Foundation and the Rodney White Foundation.
> > > > ___________________________________________________________________=
____
> > > >
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> > > > New York, NY 10012
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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] NYC - Fwd: [nyeaf] New Generation of Installation Artists May 12 - June 2

i am glad that someone is taking up the anti-cheese banner.. and
waving it to the beat of paul van dyke. i think zippy would be proud.

On 5/9/07, technogirl (doojee.com) <technogirl@doojee.com> wrote:
> not to sound negative but i dont like any of it...tiesto is super cheesy
> paul van dyke and taucher are the only people in the genre i can deal wit=
h
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Spurty" <spurty_brown@yahoo.com>
> To: "Northeast Raves" <ne-raves@hyperreal.org>
> Cc: "Ed Hoc" <meatsock@gmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 3:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [ne-raves] NYC - Fwd: [nyeaf] New Generation of Installation
> Artists May 12 - June 2
>
>
> > Hey man, Tiesto ain't the only way to attain nirvana and get to the
> Promised
> > Land. Sure, there's no denying his godliness when spinning like a top
> sucking
> > on a lollipop. But like turn on, tune in, drop out man. I bet it'll fee=
l
> just
> > like Richard James DJing some blissed out but tweaker blueroom set.
> >
> > By the way, is it just me or do the new Bjork and Nine Inch Nails album=
s
> sound
> > like they've really embraced the glitch and digital hardcore from aroun=
d
> the
> > turn of the decade? Some really angry protestations. "Declare
> Independence"
> > almost sounds like ATR. And Trent no longer has as much to prove after
> getting
> > the anti-pop of Downward Spiral on heavy radio rotation. I haven't
> listened to
> > them since Spiral but got curious recently. It's not as fast, not as no=
isy
> and
> > more melodic but just as angry, chunky and hard. And damn! He's a monst=
er
> now.
> > No longer the geek catching beat downs in the hallway. Looks like Trent=
's
> been
> > drinking his juice.
> >
> > This all comes years late but oh well. At least it's better stuff for o=
ur
> boys
> > and girls to listen to in their tanks as they're rolling thru Bahgdad
> instead
> > of Toby Keith. Looks like digicore is the new punk.
> >
> >
> > --- Ed Hoc <meatsock@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > i don't see any mention of tiesto here. i demand a banning.
> > >
> > > On 5/9/07, Spurty <spurty_brown@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > This is not a rave event so don't go, come back and then write me h=
ate
> > > mail.
> > > > This is for the benefit of the post-rave, geriatric, grups on the
> list.
> > > They
> > > > Might Be Giants is kinda ravey right?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 10:35:55 -0400
> > > > > From: Harvestworks <news@harvestworks.org>
> > > > >
> > > > > The New York Electronic Art Festival Presents New Installation Ar=
t
> > > > >
> > > > > NYEAF's premiere event focuses on eight digital artists who explo=
re
> the
> > > > > poetics of sound and image/light through electronic media
> > > > >
> > > > > The premiere event from The New York Electronic Art Festival
> (NYEAF), a
> > > > > month-long series of exhibitions, concerts and workshops that
> celebrate
> > > > > cutting-edge work at the intersection between art and technology,
> will be
> > > > > installation art from eight digital artists who explore the poeti=
cs
> of
> > > sound
> > > > > and image/light through electronic media.  Audio/Visual: A New
> Generation
> > > of
> > > > > Installation Artists can be viewed Tuesday to Saturday, noon to 6
> PM, May
> > > > > 12th through June 2nd at LMCC's Swing Space at 38 Park Row.  The
> event is
> > > > > free.
> > > > > .
> > > > > "We're very pleased to offer some of the best work from a new
> generation
> > > of
> > > > > installation artists at our opening event," said Carol Parkinson,
> > > > > Harvestworks Executive Director.  "The NYEAF, now in its first ye=
ar,
> will
> > > > > offer the best work from New York City resident artists as well a=
s
> the
> > > most
> > > > > exciting work from around the globe. Featuring artists from Trimp=
in
> to
> > > They
> > > > > Might Be Giants, the festival's events promise to draw a huge
> audience
> > > from a
> > > > > wide spectrum of music and art lovers."
> > > > >
> > > > > For more information, visit www.NYEAF.org.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > AudioVisual: A New Generation of Installation Artists
> > > > >
> > > > > May 12 - June 2, Tuesday to Saturday, noon to 6 PM
> > > > >
> > > > > at 38 Park Row
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Opening Reception, Saturday, May 12, 4 - 6 pm
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > NYEAF's opening event, Audio/Visual: A New Generation of
> Installation
> > > Artists
> > > > > features six installations by a new generation of digital artists
> who
> > > explore
> > > > > the poetics of sound and image/light through electronic media.
> Featured
> > > > > Artists: Karina Aguilera Skvirsky, Olen Hsu, Hisao Ihara, LoVid,
> Terry
> > > > > Nauheim, Rashaad Newsome, Phoenix Perry, and Douglas Repetto.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Special Saturday Presentations 4 - 6 pm at 38 Park Row -- FREE
> > > > >
> > > > > May 19:  Hisao Ihara  / Karina Aguilera Skvirsky
> > > > >
> > > > > May 26:  Phoenix Perry  / Olen Hsu / Rashaad Newsome
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > About the Artists and the works
> > > > >
> > > > > Karina Aguilera Skvirsky's El Espect=E1culo is a three-channel vi=
deo
> based
> > > on
> > > > > celebrity trials and daytime talk shows, An original soundtrack i=
s
> > > > > synchronized with the movements of the mass media characters,
> suggesting
> > > a
> > > > > choreographed dance within the tableau.  Karina Aguilera Skvirsky=
 is
> a
> > > > > photographer and video artist who has exhibited internationally i=
n
> group
> > > and
> > > > > solo shows. She has been an artist in residence at Harvestworks,
> Smack
> > > > > Mellon, the Lower Manhattan Cultural Council Workspace and the
> MacDowell
> > > > > Artist Colony.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Olen Hsu's sculpture and sound installation Drift (II) (2007) cha=
rts
> the
> > > > > prehistory of the digital network, situating itself in the era of
> the
> > > > > gramophone. Hsu's delicate apparatus emits a sound composition
> created
> > > with
> > > > > numerical oceanographic data of the past two hundred years.  Olen
> Hsu
> > > > > constructs installations in porcelain, paper and algorithmically
> composed
> > > > > sound, converging new media, tactile forms, and acoustic musical
> > > instruments.
> > > > > Hsu holds degrees in music, art history, ceramics, and sculpture
> from
> > > Yale
> > > > > University, the Kansas City Art Institute, and The School of the =
Art
> > > > > Institute of Chicago.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hisao Ihara's video installation The Collapsing Wall transforms a
> > > collection
> > > > > of documentary moving images of war from the beginning of 20th
> century to
> > > the
> > > > > present into a large, evocative, vertical projection space.
> Originally
> > > from
> > > > > Tokyo, Hisao Ihara currently lives in New York City. His work
> explores
> > > the
> > > > > intricate overlay of time and visual perception within immersive
> video
> > > > > environments. Ihara holds a BFA from the Cornish College of the A=
rts
> and
> > > an
> > > > > MFA from Alfred University.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Cross Current Resonance Transducer, a sculptural-graphic
> collaboration
> > > > > between LoVid (Tali Hinkis and Kyle Lapidus) and Douglas Repetto,
> > > addresses
> > > > > the processes of interpretation and evaluation inherent in human
> attempts
> > > to
> > > > > understand natural phenomena. LoVid is an interdisciplinary artis=
t
> duo
> > > > > composed of Tali Hinkis and Kyle Lapidus. Their work includes liv=
e
> video
> > > > > installations, sculptures, digital prints, patchworks, media
> projects,
> > > > > performances, and video recordings. Douglas Irving Repetto's work
> > > includes
> > > > > sculpture, installation, performance, recordings, and software, a=
nd
> has
> > > been
> > > > > presented internationally. Douglas is also a teacher and Director=
 of
> > > Research
> > > > > at the Columbia University Computer Music Center. He lives in New
> York
> > > City.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Terry Nauheim's Rotating is a multi-channel audio/single channel
> video
> > > > > installation built from recorded and processed sound fragments of
> > > hand-cast
> > > > > record negatives and their corresponding recorded drawings. Terry
> Nauheim
> > > > > explores sound and visual relationships through digital media,
> drawing,
> > > and
> > > > > installation. She has an MFA from the University of Maryland and =
a
> BFA
> > > from
> > > > > Washington University. Nauheim currently lives and works in New
> York,
> > > where
> > > > > she teaches computer arts at New York Institute of Technology and
> New
> > > York
> > > > > University.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Rashaad Newsome's The Conductor is a series of single-channel vid=
eo
> > > > > projections. Rashaad uses processed video juxtaposing imagery
> associated
> > > with
> > > > > popular black youth culture and audio rooted in eurocentrism.  A
> native
> > > of
> > > > > New Orleans where he received a BFA from Tulaine University,
> Rashaad
> > > Newsome
> > > > > studied film and video in New York where he currently lives. His
> work
> > > > > integrates photography, sound, performance, and video to explore =
and
> > > question
> > > > > prevailing media representations of black culture in North Americ=
a.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Phoenix Perry's Honey is an interactive game exploring issues of
> survival
> > > and
> > > > > the environment.  This powerful game demonstrates even the smalle=
st
> > > > > creatures' vital importance to their ecosystem as they struggle t=
o
> > > survive in
> > > > > a unique, fantasy-world.  Phoenix Perry's creative media include,
> > > > > installation, video, live performance, sculpture, sound, and
> painting.
> > > Her
> > > > > works have been screened at Lincoln Center, NYC, the Santa Fe Art
> > > Institute,
> > > > > the Austin Museum of Digital Art, and the Yerba Buena Center for =
the
> > > Arts.
> > > > > She currently lives in Brooklyn, New York.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Harvestworks brings together innovative practitioners from all
> branches
> > > of
> > > > > the digital arts and makes them available to artists, curators, a=
nd
> > > > > collectors."
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > About NYEAF
> > > > >
> > > > > The New York Electronic Art Festival is produced by Harvestworks,
> the New
> > > > > York University Music Technology Program, and LEMUR: League of
> Electronic
> > > > > Musical Urban Robots, with support from New York University's
> Interactive
> > > > > Telecommunications Program, Eyebeam Art and Technology Center, th=
e
> > > Columbia
> > > > > University Computer Music Center, Roulette, Electronic Music
> Foundation,
> > > 3LD
> > > > > Art and Technology Center, Lower Manhattan Cultural Council, and =
the
> > > > > Institute of Electronic Art. Additional support is from the Natio=
nal
> > > > > Endowment for the Arts, the New York State Council on the Arts, t=
he
> Mary
> > > > > Flagler Cary Charitable Trust, mediaThe foundation, the Lower
> Manhattan
> > > > > Cultural Council's Swing Space @ 38 Park Row, the Experimental TV
> Center
> > > > > Presentation Program, Cycling 74, Tekserve and Newmark Knight Fra=
nk.
> > > Lower
> > > > > Manhattan Cultural Council's Swing Space.
> > > > > NYEAF is a Harvestworks 30th Anniversary Event.  A highlight of t=
he
> > > festival
> > > > > is the 2007 International Conference on New Interfaces for Musica=
l
> > > Expression
> > > > > (NIME 2007), now in its 7th year, convening for the first time in
> New
> > > York.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > About Swing Space and Lower Manhattan Cultural Council (LMCC)
> > > > >
> > > > > Lower Manhattan Cultural Council is the leading voice for arts an=
d
> > > culture in
> > > > > downtown New York City, producing cultural events and promoting t=
he
> arts
> > > > > through grants, services, advocacy, and cultural development
> programs.
> > > Lower
> > > > > Manhattan Cultural Council's Swing Space Program is made possible=
 by
> the
> > > > > support of the September 11th Fund. Space generously donated by T=
ime
> > > > > Equities.   www.lmcc.net/
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > AudioVisual: New Installation Art is made possible by Swing Space=
, a
> > > program
> > > > > of Lower Manhattan Cultural Council, generously supported by the
> > > September
> > > > > 11th Fund. Space donated by Silverstein Properties.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> _______________________________________________________________________
> > > > > Harvestworks is a nonprofit Digital Media Arts Center that provid=
es
> > > > > resources for artists to learn digital tools and exhibit
> experimental
> > > > > work created with digital technologies.  Our programs are made
> possible
> > > > > with funds from mediaThe foundation, New York State Council on th=
e
> > > > > Arts, the National Endowment for the Arts, the NYC Dept. of Cultu=
ral
> > > > > Affairs, Materials for the Arts, The Experimental TV Center, the
> Mary
> > > > > Flagler Cary Trust, the Aaron Copland Fund, The Greenwall
> Foundation,
> > > > > the Jerome Foundation, Foundation for Contemporary Performance Ar=
ts,
> JP
> > > > > Morgan Chase Foundation and the Rodney White Foundation.
> > > > >
> _______________________________________________________________________
> > > > >
> > > > > HARVESTWORKS Digital Media Arts Center
> > > > > 596 Broadway, Suite 602 (at Houston St)
> > > > > New York, NY 10012
> > > > > Tel: 212-431-1130
> > > > > http://www.harvestworks.org
> > > > > Subway: F/V Broadway/Lafayette, 6 Bleeker, W/R Prince
> > > > >
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> > >
> >
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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] NYC - Fwd: [nyeaf] New Generation of Installation
 Artists May 12 - June 2

paul van dyke was around along time and his style progresses with whatever
direction music develops
most others are stagnant, same structure, same cheesy beats
goto give him credit

thinking about it....there is cosmic baby and lsg who i really would like to
see again as well

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ed Hoc" <meatsock@gmail.com>
To: "technogirl (doojee.com)" <technogirl@doojee.com>
Cc: "Spurty" <spurty_brown@yahoo.com>; "Northeast Raves"
<ne-raves@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: [ne-raves] NYC - Fwd: [nyeaf] New Generation of Installation
Artists May 12 - June 2


> i am glad that someone is taking up the anti-cheese banner.. and
> waving it to the beat of paul van dyke. i think zippy would be proud.
>
> On 5/9/07, technogirl (doojee.com) <technogirl@doojee.com> wrote:
> > not to sound negative but i dont like any of it...tiesto is super cheesy
> > paul van dyke and taucher are the only people in the genre i can deal
with
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Spurty" <spurty_brown@yahoo.com>
> > To: "Northeast Raves" <ne-raves@hyperreal.org>
> > Cc: "Ed Hoc" <meatsock@gmail.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 3:42 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ne-raves] NYC - Fwd: [nyeaf] New Generation of
Installation
> > Artists May 12 - June 2
> >
> >
> > > Hey man, Tiesto ain't the only way to attain nirvana and get to the
> > Promised
> > > Land. Sure, there's no denying his godliness when spinning like a top
> > sucking
> > > on a lollipop. But like turn on, tune in, drop out man. I bet it'll
feel
> > just
> > > like Richard James DJing some blissed out but tweaker blueroom set.
> > >
> > > By the way, is it just me or do the new Bjork and Nine Inch Nails
albums
> > sound
> > > like they've really embraced the glitch and digital hardcore from
around
> > the
> > > turn of the decade? Some really angry protestations. "Declare
> > Independence"
> > > almost sounds like ATR. And Trent no longer has as much to prove after
> > getting
> > > the anti-pop of Downward Spiral on heavy radio rotation. I haven't
> > listened to
> > > them since Spiral but got curious recently. It's not as fast, not as
noisy
> > and
> > > more melodic but just as angry, chunky and hard. And damn! He's a
monster
> > now.
> > > No longer the geek catching beat downs in the hallway. Looks like
Trent's
> > been
> > > drinking his juice.
> > >
> > > This all comes years late but oh well. At least it's better stuff for
our
> > boys
> > > and girls to listen to in their tanks as they're rolling thru Bahgdad
> > instead
> > > of Toby Keith. Looks like digicore is the new punk.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Ed Hoc <meatsock@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > i don't see any mention of tiesto here. i demand a banning.
> > > >
> > > > On 5/9/07, Spurty <spurty_brown@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > This is not a rave event so don't go, come back and then write me
hate
> > > > mail.
> > > > > This is for the benefit of the post-rave, geriatric, grups on the
> > list.
> > > > They
> > > > > Might Be Giants is kinda ravey right?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 10:35:55 -0400
> > > > > > From: Harvestworks <news@harvestworks.org>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The New York Electronic Art Festival Presents New Installation
Art
> > > > > >
> > > > > > NYEAF's premiere event focuses on eight digital artists who
explore
> > the
> > > > > > poetics of sound and image/light through electronic media
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The premiere event from The New York Electronic Art Festival
> > (NYEAF), a
> > > > > > month-long series of exhibitions, concerts and workshops that
> > celebrate
> > > > > > cutting-edge work at the intersection between art and
technology,
> > will be
> > > > > > installation art from eight digital artists who explore the
poetics
> > of
> > > > sound
> > > > > > and image/light through electronic media.  Audio/Visual: A New
> > Generation
> > > > of
> > > > > > Installation Artists can be viewed Tuesday to Saturday, noon to
6
> > PM, May
> > > > > > 12th through June 2nd at LMCC's Swing Space at 38 Park Row.  The
> > event is
> > > > > > free.
> > > > > > .
> > > > > > "We're very pleased to offer some of the best work from a new
> > generation
> > > > of
> > > > > > installation artists at our opening event," said Carol
Parkinson,
> > > > > > Harvestworks Executive Director.  "The NYEAF, now in its first
year,
> > will
> > > > > > offer the best work from New York City resident artists as well
as
> > the
> > > > most
> > > > > > exciting work from around the globe. Featuring artists from
Trimpin
> > to
> > > > They
> > > > > > Might Be Giants, the festival's events promise to draw a huge
> > audience
> > > > from a
> > > > > > wide spectrum of music and art lovers."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For more information, visit www.NYEAF.org.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > AudioVisual: A New Generation of Installation Artists
> > > > > >
> > > > > > May 12 - June 2, Tuesday to Saturday, noon to 6 PM
> > > > > >
> > > > > > at 38 Park Row
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Opening Reception, Saturday, May 12, 4 - 6 pm
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > NYEAF's opening event, Audio/Visual: A New Generation of
> > Installation
> > > > Artists
> > > > > > features six installations by a new generation of digital
artists
> > who
> > > > explore
> > > > > > the poetics of sound and image/light through electronic media.
> > Featured
> > > > > > Artists: Karina Aguilera Skvirsky, Olen Hsu, Hisao Ihara, LoVid,
> > Terry
> > > > > > Nauheim, Rashaad Newsome, Phoenix Perry, and Douglas Repetto.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Special Saturday Presentations 4 - 6 pm at 38 Park Row -- FREE
> > > > > >
> > > > > > May 19:  Hisao Ihara  / Karina Aguilera Skvirsky
> > > > > >
> > > > > > May 26:  Phoenix Perry  / Olen Hsu / Rashaad Newsome
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > About the Artists and the works
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Karina Aguilera Skvirsky's El Espectáculo is a three-channel
video
> > based
> > > > on
> > > > > > celebrity trials and daytime talk shows, An original soundtrack
is
> > > > > > synchronized with the movements of the mass media characters,
> > suggesting
> > > > a
> > > > > > choreographed dance within the tableau.  Karina Aguilera
Skvirsky is
> > a
> > > > > > photographer and video artist who has exhibited internationally
in
> > group
> > > > and
> > > > > > solo shows. She has been an artist in residence at Harvestworks,
> > Smack
> > > > > > Mellon, the Lower Manhattan Cultural Council Workspace and the
> > MacDowell
> > > > > > Artist Colony.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Olen Hsu's sculpture and sound installation Drift (II) (2007)
charts
> > the
> > > > > > prehistory of the digital network, situating itself in the era
of
> > the
> > > > > > gramophone. Hsu's delicate apparatus emits a sound composition
> > created
> > > > with
> > > > > > numerical oceanographic data of the past two hundred years.
Olen
> > Hsu
> > > > > > constructs installations in porcelain, paper and algorithmically
> > composed
> > > > > > sound, converging new media, tactile forms, and acoustic musical
> > > > instruments.
> > > > > > Hsu holds degrees in music, art history, ceramics, and sculpture
> > from
> > > > Yale
> > > > > > University, the Kansas City Art Institute, and The School of the
Art
> > > > > > Institute of Chicago.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hisao Ihara's video installation The Collapsing Wall transforms
a
> > > > collection
> > > > > > of documentary moving images of war from the beginning of 20th
> > century to
> > > > the
> > > > > > present into a large, evocative, vertical projection space.
> > Originally
> > > > from
> > > > > > Tokyo, Hisao Ihara currently lives in New York City. His work
> > explores
> > > > the
> > > > > > intricate overlay of time and visual perception within immersive
> > video
> > > > > > environments. Ihara holds a BFA from the Cornish College of the
Arts
> > and
> > > > an
> > > > > > MFA from Alfred University.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cross Current Resonance Transducer, a sculptural-graphic
> > collaboration
> > > > > > between LoVid (Tali Hinkis and Kyle Lapidus) and Douglas
Repetto,
> > > > addresses
> > > > > > the processes of interpretation and evaluation inherent in human
> > attempts
> > > > to
> > > > > > understand natural phenomena. LoVid is an interdisciplinary
artist
> > duo
> > > > > > composed of Tali Hinkis and Kyle Lapidus. Their work includes
live
> > video
> > > > > > installations, sculptures, digital prints, patchworks, media
> > projects,
> > > > > > performances, and video recordings. Douglas Irving Repetto's
work
> > > > includes
> > > > > > sculpture, installation, performance, recordings, and software,
and
> > has
> > > > been
> > > > > > presented internationally. Douglas is also a teacher and
Director of
> > > > Research
> > > > > > at the Columbia University Computer Music Center. He lives in
New
> > York
> > > > City.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Terry Nauheim's Rotating is a multi-channel audio/single channel
> > video
> > > > > > installation built from recorded and processed sound fragments
of
> > > > hand-cast
> > > > > > record negatives and their corresponding recorded drawings.
Terry
> > Nauheim
> > > > > > explores sound and visual relationships through digital media,
> > drawing,
> > > > and
> > > > > > installation. She has an MFA from the University of Maryland and
a
> > BFA
> > > > from
> > > > > > Washington University. Nauheim currently lives and works in New
> > York,
> > > > where
> > > > > > she teaches computer arts at New York Institute of Technology
and
> > New
> > > > York
> > > > > > University.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Rashaad Newsome's The Conductor is a series of single-channel
video
> > > > > > projections. Rashaad uses processed video juxtaposing imagery
> > associated
> > > > with
> > > > > > popular black youth culture and audio rooted in eurocentrism.  A
> > native
> > > > of
> > > > > > New Orleans where he received a BFA from Tulaine University,
> > Rashaad
> > > > Newsome
> > > > > > studied film and video in New York where he currently lives. His
> > work
> > > > > > integrates photography, sound, performance, and video to explore
and
> > > > question
> > > > > > prevailing media representations of black culture in North
America.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Phoenix Perry's Honey is an interactive game exploring issues of
> > survival
> > > > and
> > > > > > the environment.  This powerful game demonstrates even the
smallest
> > > > > > creatures' vital importance to their ecosystem as they struggle
to
> > > > survive in
> > > > > > a unique, fantasy-world.  Phoenix Perry's creative media
include,
> > > > > > installation, video, live performance, sculpture, sound, and
> > painting.
> > > > Her
> > > > > > works have been screened at Lincoln Center, NYC, the Santa Fe
Art
> > > > Institute,
> > > > > > the Austin Museum of Digital Art, and the Yerba Buena Center for
the
> > > > Arts.
> > > > > > She currently lives in Brooklyn, New York.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Harvestworks brings together innovative practitioners from all
> > branches
> > > > of
> > > > > > the digital arts and makes them available to artists, curators,
and
> > > > > > collectors."
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > About NYEAF
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The New York Electronic Art Festival is produced by
Harvestworks,
> > the New
> > > > > > York University Music Technology Program, and LEMUR: League of
> > Electronic
> > > > > > Musical Urban Robots, with support from New York University's
> > Interactive
> > > > > > Telecommunications Program, Eyebeam Art and Technology Center,
the
> > > > Columbia
> > > > > > University Computer Music Center, Roulette, Electronic Music
> > Foundation,
> > > > 3LD
> > > > > > Art and Technology Center, Lower Manhattan Cultural Council, and
the
> > > > > > Institute of Electronic Art. Additional support is from the
National
> > > > > > Endowment for the Arts, the New York State Council on the Arts,
the
> > Mary
> > > > > > Flagler Cary Charitable Trust, mediaThe foundation, the Lower
> > Manhattan
> > > > > > Cultural Council's Swing Space @ 38 Park Row, the Experimental
TV
> > Center
> > > > > > Presentation Program, Cycling 74, Tekserve and Newmark Knight
Frank.
> > > > Lower
> > > > > > Manhattan Cultural Council's Swing Space.
> > > > > > NYEAF is a Harvestworks 30th Anniversary Event.  A highlight of
the
> > > > festival
> > > > > > is the 2007 International Conference on New Interfaces for
Musical
> > > > Expression
> > > > > > (NIME 2007), now in its 7th year, convening for the first time
in
> > New
> > > > York.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > About Swing Space and Lower Manhattan Cultural Council (LMCC)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Lower Manhattan Cultural Council is the leading voice for arts
and
> > > > culture in
> > > > > > downtown New York City, producing cultural events and promoting
the
> > arts
> > > > > > through grants, services, advocacy, and cultural development
> > programs.
> > > > Lower
> > > > > > Manhattan Cultural Council's Swing Space Program is made
possible by
> > the
> > > > > > support of the September 11th Fund. Space generously donated by
Time
> > > > > > Equities.   www.lmcc.net/
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > AudioVisual: New Installation Art is made possible by Swing
Space, a
> > > > program
> > > > > > of Lower Manhattan Cultural Council, generously supported by the
> > > > September
> > > > > > 11th Fund. Space donated by Silverstein Properties.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > _______________________________________________________________________
> > > > > > Harvestworks is a nonprofit Digital Media Arts Center that
provides
> > > > > > resources for artists to learn digital tools and exhibit
> > experimental
> > > > > > work created with digital technologies.  Our programs are made
> > possible
> > > > > > with funds from mediaThe foundation, New York State Council on
the
> > > > > > Arts, the National Endowment for the Arts, the NYC Dept. of
Cultural
> > > > > > Affairs, Materials for the Arts, The Experimental TV Center, the
> > Mary
> > > > > > Flagler Cary Trust, the Aaron Copland Fund, The Greenwall
> > Foundation,
> > > > > > the Jerome Foundation, Foundation for Contemporary Performance
Arts,
> > JP
> > > > > > Morgan Chase Foundation and the Rodney White Foundation.
> > > > > >
> > _______________________________________________________________________
> > > > > >
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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] NYC - Fwd: [nyeaf] New Generation of Installation Artists May 12 - June 2

the beatles have been around a long time too but that dosen't mean
their music isn't terrible.

On 5/9/07, technogirl (doojee.com) <technogirl@doojee.com> wrote:
> paul van dyke was around along time and his style progresses with whateve=
r
> direction music develops
> most others are stagnant, same structure, same cheesy beats
> goto give him credit
>
> thinking about it....there is cosmic baby and lsg who i really would like=
 to
> see again as well
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ed Hoc" <meatsock@gmail.com>
> To: "technogirl (doojee.com)" <technogirl@doojee.com>
> Cc: "Spurty" <spurty_brown@yahoo.com>; "Northeast Raves"
> <ne-raves@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 3:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [ne-raves] NYC - Fwd: [nyeaf] New Generation of Installation
> Artists May 12 - June 2
>
>
> > i am glad that someone is taking up the anti-cheese banner.. and
> > waving it to the beat of paul van dyke. i think zippy would be proud.
> >
> > On 5/9/07, technogirl (doojee.com) <technogirl@doojee.com> wrote:
> > > not to sound negative but i dont like any of it...tiesto is super che=
esy
> > > paul van dyke and taucher are the only people in the genre i can deal
> with
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Spurty" <spurty_brown@yahoo.com>
> > > To: "Northeast Raves" <ne-raves@hyperreal.org>
> > > Cc: "Ed Hoc" <meatsock@gmail.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 3:42 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [ne-raves] NYC - Fwd: [nyeaf] New Generation of
> Installation
> > > Artists May 12 - June 2
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hey man, Tiesto ain't the only way to attain nirvana and get to the
> > > Promised
> > > > Land. Sure, there's no denying his godliness when spinning like a t=
op
> > > sucking
> > > > on a lollipop. But like turn on, tune in, drop out man. I bet it'll
> feel
> > > just
> > > > like Richard James DJing some blissed out but tweaker blueroom set.
> > > >
> > > > By the way, is it just me or do the new Bjork and Nine Inch Nails
> albums
> > > sound
> > > > like they've really embraced the glitch and digital hardcore from
> around
> > > the
> > > > turn of the decade? Some really angry protestations. "Declare
> > > Independence"
> > > > almost sounds like ATR. And Trent no longer has as much to prove af=
ter
> > > getting
> > > > the anti-pop of Downward Spiral on heavy radio rotation. I haven't
> > > listened to
> > > > them since Spiral but got curious recently. It's not as fast, not a=
s
> noisy
> > > and
> > > > more melodic but just as angry, chunky and hard. And damn! He's a
> monster
> > > now.
> > > > No longer the geek catching beat downs in the hallway. Looks like
> Trent's
> > > been
> > > > drinking his juice.
> > > >
> > > > This all comes years late but oh well. At least it's better stuff f=
or
> our
> > > boys
> > > > and girls to listen to in their tanks as they're rolling thru Bahgd=
ad
> > > instead
> > > > of Toby Keith. Looks like digicore is the new punk.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- Ed Hoc <meatsock@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > i don't see any mention of tiesto here. i demand a banning.
> > > > >
> > > > > On 5/9/07, Spurty <spurty_brown@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > > This is not a rave event so don't go, come back and then write =
me
> hate
> > > > > mail.
> > > > > > This is for the benefit of the post-rave, geriatric, grups on t=
he
> > > list.
> > > > > They
> > > > > > Might Be Giants is kinda ravey right?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 10:35:55 -0400
> > > > > > > From: Harvestworks <news@harvestworks.org>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The New York Electronic Art Festival Presents New Installatio=
n
> Art
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > NYEAF's premiere event focuses on eight digital artists who
> explore
> > > the
> > > > > > > poetics of sound and image/light through electronic media
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The premiere event from The New York Electronic Art Festival
> > > (NYEAF), a
> > > > > > > month-long series of exhibitions, concerts and workshops that
> > > celebrate
> > > > > > > cutting-edge work at the intersection between art and
> technology,
> > > will be
> > > > > > > installation art from eight digital artists who explore the
> poetics
> > > of
> > > > > sound
> > > > > > > and image/light through electronic media.  Audio/Visual: A Ne=
w
> > > Generation
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > Installation Artists can be viewed Tuesday to Saturday, noon =
to
> 6
> > > PM, May
> > > > > > > 12th through June 2nd at LMCC's Swing Space at 38 Park Row.  =
The
> > > event is
> > > > > > > free.
> > > > > > > .
> > > > > > > "We're very pleased to offer some of the best work from a new
> > > generation
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > installation artists at our opening event," said Carol
> Parkinson,
> > > > > > > Harvestworks Executive Director.  "The NYEAF, now in its firs=
t
> year,
> > > will
> > > > > > > offer the best work from New York City resident artists as we=
ll
> as
> > > the
> > > > > most
> > > > > > > exciting work from around the globe. Featuring artists from
> Trimpin
> > > to
> > > > > They
> > > > > > > Might Be Giants, the festival's events promise to draw a huge
> > > audience
> > > > > from a
> > > > > > > wide spectrum of music and art lovers."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > For more information, visit www.NYEAF.org.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > AudioVisual: A New Generation of Installation Artists
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > May 12 - June 2, Tuesday to Saturday, noon to 6 PM
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > at 38 Park Row
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Opening Reception, Saturday, May 12, 4 - 6 pm
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > NYEAF's opening event, Audio/Visual: A New Generation of
> > > Installation
> > > > > Artists
> > > > > > > features six installations by a new generation of digital
> artists
> > > who
> > > > > explore
> > > > > > > the poetics of sound and image/light through electronic media=
.
> > > Featured
> > > > > > > Artists: Karina Aguilera Skvirsky, Olen Hsu, Hisao Ihara, LoV=
id,
> > > Terry
> > > > > > > Nauheim, Rashaad Newsome, Phoenix Perry, and Douglas Repetto.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Special Saturday Presentations 4 - 6 pm at 38 Park Row -- FRE=
E
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > May 19:  Hisao Ihara  / Karina Aguilera Skvirsky
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > May 26:  Phoenix Perry  / Olen Hsu / Rashaad Newsome
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > About the Artists and the works
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Karina Aguilera Skvirsky's El Espect=E1culo is a three-channe=
l
> video
> > > based
> > > > > on
> > > > > > > celebrity trials and daytime talk shows, An original soundtra=
ck
> is
> > > > > > > synchronized with the movements of the mass media characters,
> > > suggesting
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > choreographed dance within the tableau.  Karina Aguilera
> Skvirsky is
> > > a
> > > > > > > photographer and video artist who has exhibited international=
ly
> in
> > > group
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > solo shows. She has been an artist in residence at Harvestwor=
ks,
> > > Smack
> > > > > > > Mellon, the Lower Manhattan Cultural Council Workspace and th=
e
> > > MacDowell
> > > > > > > Artist Colony.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Olen Hsu's sculpture and sound installation Drift (II) (2007)
> charts
> > > the
> > > > > > > prehistory of the digital network, situating itself in the er=
a
> of
> > > the
> > > > > > > gramophone. Hsu's delicate apparatus emits a sound compositio=
n
> > > created
> > > > > with
> > > > > > > numerical oceanographic data of the past two hundred years.
> Olen
> > > Hsu
> > > > > > > constructs installations in porcelain, paper and algorithmica=
lly
> > > composed
> > > > > > > sound, converging new media, tactile forms, and acoustic musi=
cal
> > > > > instruments.
> > > > > > > Hsu holds degrees in music, art history, ceramics, and sculpt=
ure
> > > from
> > > > > Yale
> > > > > > > University, the Kansas City Art Institute, and The School of =
the
> Art
> > > > > > > Institute of Chicago.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hisao Ihara's video installation The Collapsing Wall transfor=
ms
> a
> > > > > collection
> > > > > > > of documentary moving images of war from the beginning of 20t=
h
> > > century to
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > present into a large, evocative, vertical projection space.
> > > Originally
> > > > > from
> > > > > > > Tokyo, Hisao Ihara currently lives in New York City. His work
> > > explores
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > intricate overlay of time and visual perception within immers=
ive
> > > video
> > > > > > > environments. Ihara holds a BFA from the Cornish College of t=
he
> Arts
> > > and
> > > > > an
> > > > > > > MFA from Alfred University.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cross Current Resonance Transducer, a sculptural-graphic
> > > collaboration
> > > > > > > between LoVid (Tali Hinkis and Kyle Lapidus) and Douglas
> Repetto,
> > > > > addresses
> > > > > > > the processes of interpretation and evaluation inherent in hu=
man
> > > attempts
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > understand natural phenomena. LoVid is an interdisciplinary
> artist
> > > duo
> > > > > > > composed of Tali Hinkis and Kyle Lapidus. Their work includes
> live
> > > video
> > > > > > > installations, sculptures, digital prints, patchworks, media
> > > projects,
> > > > > > > performances, and video recordings. Douglas Irving Repetto's
> work
> > > > > includes
> > > > > > > sculpture, installation, performance, recordings, and softwar=
e,
> and
> > > has
> > > > > been
> > > > > > > presented internationally. Douglas is also a teacher and
> Director of
> > > > > Research
> > > > > > > at the Columbia University Computer Music Center. He lives in
> New
> > > York
> > > > > City.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Terry Nauheim's Rotating is a multi-channel audio/single chan=
nel
> > > video
> > > > > > > installation built from recorded and processed sound fragment=
s
> of
> > > > > hand-cast
> > > > > > > record negatives and their corresponding recorded drawings.
> Terry
> > > Nauheim
> > > > > > > explores sound and visual relationships through digital media=
,
> > > drawing,
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > installation. She has an MFA from the University of Maryland =
and
> a
> > > BFA
> > > > > from
> > > > > > > Washington University. Nauheim currently lives and works in N=
ew
> > > York,
> > > > > where
> > > > > > > she teaches computer arts at New York Institute of Technology
> and
> > > New
> > > > > York
> > > > > > > University.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Rashaad Newsome's The Conductor is a series of single-channel
> video
> > > > > > > projections. Rashaad uses processed video juxtaposing imagery
> > > associated
> > > > > with
> > > > > > > popular black youth culture and audio rooted in eurocentrism.=
  A
> > > native
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > New Orleans where he received a BFA from Tulaine University,
> > > Rashaad
> > > > > Newsome
> > > > > > > studied film and video in New York where he currently lives. =
His
> > > work
> > > > > > > integrates photography, sound, performance, and video to expl=
ore
> and
> > > > > question
> > > > > > > prevailing media representations of black culture in North
> America.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Phoenix Perry's Honey is an interactive game exploring issues=
 of
> > > survival
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > the environment.  This powerful game demonstrates even the
> smallest
> > > > > > > creatures' vital importance to their ecosystem as they strugg=
le
> to
> > > > > survive in
> > > > > > > a unique, fantasy-world.  Phoenix Perry's creative media
> include,
> > > > > > > installation, video, live performance, sculpture, sound, and
> > > painting.
> > > > > Her
> > > > > > > works have been screened at Lincoln Center, NYC, the Santa Fe
> Art
> > > > > Institute,
> > > > > > > the Austin Museum of Digital Art, and the Yerba Buena Center =
for
> the
> > > > > Arts.
> > > > > > > She currently lives in Brooklyn, New York.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Harvestworks brings together innovative practitioners from a=
ll
> > > branches
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > the digital arts and makes them available to artists, curator=
s,
> and
> > > > > > > collectors."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > About NYEAF
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The New York Electronic Art Festival is produced by
> Harvestworks,
> > > the New
> > > > > > > York University Music Technology Program, and LEMUR: League o=
f
> > > Electronic
> > > > > > > Musical Urban Robots, with support from New York University's
> > > Interactive
> > > > > > > Telecommunications Program, Eyebeam Art and Technology Center=
,
> the
> > > > > Columbia
> > > > > > > University Computer Music Center, Roulette, Electronic Music
> > > Foundation,
> > > > > 3LD
> > > > > > > Art and Technology Center, Lower Manhattan Cultural Council, =
and
> the
> > > > > > > Institute of Electronic Art. Additional support is from the
> National
> > > > > > > Endowment for the Arts, the New York State Council on the Art=
s,
> the
> > > Mary
> > > > > > > Flagler Cary Charitable Trust, mediaThe foundation, the Lower
> > > Manhattan
> > > > > > > Cultural Council's Swing Space @ 38 Park Row, the Experimenta=
l
> TV
> > > Center
> > > > > > > Presentation Program, Cycling 74, Tekserve and Newmark Knight
> Frank.
> > > > > Lower
> > > > > > > Manhattan Cultural Council's Swing Space.
> > > > > > > NYEAF is a Harvestworks 30th Anniversary Event.  A highlight =
of
> the
> > > > > festival
> > > > > > > is the 2007 International Conference on New Interfaces for
> Musical
> > > > > Expression
> > > > > > > (NIME 2007), now in its 7th year, convening for the first tim=
e
> in
> > > New
> > > > > York.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > About Swing Space and Lower Manhattan Cultural Council (LMCC)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Lower Manhattan Cultural Council is the leading voice for art=
s
> and
> > > > > culture in
> > > > > > > downtown New York City, producing cultural events and promoti=
ng
> the
> > > arts
> > > > > > > through grants, services, advocacy, and cultural development
> > > programs.
> > > > > Lower
> > > > > > > Manhattan Cultural Council's Swing Space Program is made
> possible by
> > > the
> > > > > > > support of the September 11th Fund. Space generously donated =
by
> Time
> > > > > > > Equities.   www.lmcc.net/
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > AudioVisual: New Installation Art is made possible by Swing
> Space, a
> > > > > program
> > > > > > > of Lower Manhattan Cultural Council, generously supported by =
the
> > > > > September
> > > > > > > 11th Fund. Space donated by Silverstein Properties.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > _____________________________________________________________________=
__
> > > > > > > Harvestworks is a nonprofit Digital Media Arts Center that
> provides
> > > > > > > resources for artists to learn digital tools and exhibit
> > > experimental
> > > > > > > work created with digital technologies.  Our programs are mad=
e
> > > possible
> > > > > > > with funds from mediaThe foundation, New York State Council o=
n
> the
> > > > > > > Arts, the National Endowment for the Arts, the NYC Dept. of
> Cultural
> > > > > > > Affairs, Materials for the Arts, The Experimental TV Center, =
the
> > > Mary
> > > > > > > Flagler Cary Trust, the Aaron Copland Fund, The Greenwall
> > > Foundation,
> > > > > > > the Jerome Foundation, Foundation for Contemporary Performanc=
e
> Arts,
> > > JP
> > > > > > > Morgan Chase Foundation and the Rodney White Foundation.
> > > > > > >
> > > _____________________________________________________________________=
__
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > HARVESTWORKS Digital Media Arts Center
> > > > > > > 596 Broadway, Suite 602 (at Houston St)
> > > > > > > New York, NY 10012
> > > > > > > Tel: 212-431-1130
> > > > > > > http://www.harvestworks.org
> > > > > > > Subway: F/V Broadway/Lafayette, 6 Bleeker, W/R Prince
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Subject: [ne-raves] What rave means to me.

Here's what I wrote in my school report back in third grade. j/k

Let's not get into a big debate and argument over whose music is cool and whose
sucks. People have a tendency to make and take that shit too personally. People
don't need others to validate their tastes in order to decide what they like...
ok, not entirely true unfortunately. I take that back.

Most of us have shot a condescending glance at someone who we deemed pathetic
for his tastes. But we're all older now right? Live and let live. There's too
much cool stuff to do why would you want to waste it having some endless
argument on a rave list? And some of us are old enough to remember when the
rave scene was a lot less classist and a real mixed bag. I'm not normally one
to pine in nostalgia but the new has a lot to learn from the old still.

And I'm sorry that my sarcasm regarding Tiesto and his ilk wasn't more obvious.
I can honestly say I don't think I've ever heard a Tiesto mix or one of his
tracks (does he produce?). But I think I can hazard a fairly accurate guess
based on where he gets booked. Anyway I think we still owe Allie an apology for
indirectly making fun of her as she tries to get the scoop on Tiesto. I'm
getting tired of grumbling with all you old listserve farts so let's not scare
off the new blood who are still smart enough to figure out how to subscribe to
a listserve. And I think I saw a MIT address so I'll assume Allie's smart
enough to sort out her musical tastes on her own soon enough ;)


 
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i just loaded 14 mixes today to acid grave today. a tracklist is posted with each mix. all mixes are recorded at 320 kbps, mp3. here are the links:

hardcore/gabber:
http://www.acidgrave.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=1214

house: (reseed)
http://www.acidgrave.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=1196

trance:
http://www.acidgrave.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=1209
http://www.acidgrave.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=1213

ambient:
http://www.acidgrave.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=1221
http://www.acidgrave.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=1212
http://www.acidgrave.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=1211

mixed genre:
http://www.acidgrave.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=1218
http://www.acidgrave.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=1219

industrial:
http://www.acidgrave.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=1220
http://www.acidgrave.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=1217
http://www.acidgrave.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=1216
http://www.acidgrave.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=1215
http://www.acidgrave.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=1210

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Subject: [ne-raves] antimusic workshop tonight

it is a college radio show.

0000-0200 EST

www.whus.org

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this is on the air right now.

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Subject: [ne-raves] two albums just released...

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hey everybody,
this weekend marked my first two albums released through amduscias records...

the first one is a 4 track ep and its pretty chill...
you can have a free download, including front and back cover art (if you want to burn yourself a copy) right here:
http://www.archive.org/details/the_alien_deviance

the second one is a double disc album. one disk (11 tracks) is very chill and cerebral. the other disc (9 tracks) is full of all sorts of beats, bounce, and even a little grindage...
you can have a free download, including front and back cover art (if you want to burn yourself a copy) right here:
http://www.archive.org/details/Something_For_Everyone

i am already back in the studio working on a third release, so grab these and stay tuned for updates! 

...and if you finish listening to mine and are still hungry for more, then check out the other fine artists under the amduscias label right here:
http://www.archive.org/details/amduscias
thats not just a plug, ive actually listened to it all and was really impressed with most of it... 

so, who wants some free music? =)



 
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Subject: [ne-raves] 05/17: PLANET OF THE DRUMS @ Sullivan Room (NYC)

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Direct Drive Presents 
THURSDAY, MAY 17th 2007 

One night only! 

Planet of the Drums features 3 of America's Top DJ's along with Direct Drive's man with the plan. Get ready as they all throw down at the New and Improved Sullivan Room which has a killer sound system and twice as much space to get your groove on. 

Get ready for this!!! 

Dieselboy 
AK1200 
DARA 
MC MESSINIAN 

DJ SEOUL


At The New & Improved: 
SULLIVAN ROOM - 218 Sullivan St 
*more room and more sound! 
(Between West 3rd St & Bleecker St) 
New York, NY 10012 

By subway: 
A,C,E,B,D,F,V to West 4th Street 

$10 in Adv, $15 at Door 
Purchase Tickets Here: http://groovetickets.com/directdrive 
10 to 4am, 21+ Must Bring ID 
Get Involved, Email us: Info@directdrive.net 

WWW.DIRECTDRIVE.NET

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Subject: [ne-raves] Getting high from music?

Um yeah... some of us have known about this for some time now. Has big media forgotten about the evils of rave already? They're taking out the social aspect and turning kids into isolated bedroom tweakers. Curious to hear the music.
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Getting high from music?
http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=local&id=5312070

(New York - WABC, May 16, 2007) - There's a CD out on the market that apparently gives the listener the feeling of getting high -- high like on drugs. 

			
			Different sounds apparently trigger highs from different drugs. And young kids know about this.

Eyewitness News reporter Jeff Rossen has the story.


Euphoria in a box -- a CD delivered right to your home. The makers say, just listen.and you'll get high. 


One track is supposed to make you feel like you're on peyote. Another
one is supposed to give you the feeling of smoking marijuana.

It sounds like a mish-mosh of bizarre sounds with a beat behind
it. It's catching on with suburban high school kids. In Wanaque, New
Jersey, they swear it works. 

The CD goes for about $20 dollars online from a company with no address
or contact number. On the CD case, the makers explain how it works:
binaural soundwaves that synchronize your brain giving you the
sensation of a drug high. 

Dr. Darius Kohan is an autologist neurologist at NYU -- basically an
expert on how the ear affects the brain. So, we asked him, is this
medically possible?


"Music will never make you ... hallucinate," Dr. Kohan said.

I listened in silence to the entire 15 minute track. Doctors say
the CD itself cannot hurt you. But drug experts are worried, worried
for the kids who take it to the next level. 

Could it be the new gateway drug? A legal CD available to anyone with
access to the Internet? Whatever the case, it's an alert for all
parents.





 
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  "Music will never make you ... hallucinate," Dr. Kohan said.
BULLSHIT!

add in some dancing and some imagination and some closed eyes and yes, music
will make you hallucinate.


On 5/16/07, Spurty <spurty_brown@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Um yeah... some of us have known about this for some time now. Has big
> media forgotten about the evils of rave already? They're taking out the
> social aspect and turning kids into isolated bedroom tweakers. Curious to
> hear the music.
> ________________________
>
> Getting high from music?
> http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=local&id=5312070
>
> (New York - WABC, May 16, 2007) - There's a CD out on the market that
> apparently gives the listener the feeling of getting high -- high like on
> drugs.
>
>
>                        Different sounds apparently trigger highs from
> different drugs. And young kids know about this.
>
> Eyewitness News reporter Jeff Rossen has the story.
>
>
> Euphoria in a box -- a CD delivered right to your home. The makers say,
> just listen.and you'll get high.
>
>
> One track is supposed to make you feel like you're on peyote. Another
> one is supposed to give you the feeling of smoking marijuana.
>
> It sounds like a mish-mosh of bizarre sounds with a beat behind
> it. It's catching on with suburban high school kids. In Wanaque, New
> Jersey, they swear it works.
>
> The CD goes for about $20 dollars online from a company with no address
> or contact number. On the CD case, the makers explain how it works:
> binaural soundwaves that synchronize your brain giving you the
> sensation of a drug high.
>
> Dr. Darius Kohan is an autologist neurologist at NYU -- basically an
> expert on how the ear affects the brain. So, we asked him, is this
> medically possible?
>
>
> "Music will never make you ... hallucinate," Dr. Kohan said.
>
> I listened in silence to the entire 15 minute track. Doctors say
> the CD itself cannot hurt you. But drug experts are worried, worried
> for the kids who take it to the next level.
>
> Could it be the new gateway drug? A legal CD available to anyone with
> access to the Internet? Whatever the case, it's an alert for all
> parents.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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D. Evan Mulvihill wrote:
> "Music will never make you ... hallucinate," Dr. Kohan said. 
> BULLSHIT!
> 
> add in some dancing and some imagination and some closed eyes and
> yes, music will make you hallucinate.


Anything can make you hallucinate, if you're in the right frame of mind.

Some of my weirdest hallucinations have come from lack of sleep.

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after you'd been up on meth for 5 days right?

On 5/16/07, Sridhar Ayengar <sridhar@ikickass.org> wrote:
>
> D. Evan Mulvihill wrote:
> > "Music will never make you ... hallucinate," Dr. Kohan said.
> > BULLSHIT!
> >
> > add in some dancing and some imagination and some closed eyes and
> > yes, music will make you hallucinate.
>
>
> Anything can make you hallucinate, if you're in the right frame of mind.
>
> Some of my weirdest hallucinations have come from lack of sleep.
>
> Peace...  Sridhar
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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Getting high from music?

Might want to take it easy on the discussion about the details of HOW you g=
et high. Somewhere deep in the side of a remote and undisclosed mountain lo=
cation there are super computers logging your names and statements in a dra=
gnet of domestic surveillance. Now if Ashcroft was opposed to the first dra=
ft of this thing on his sick bed there must have been something incredibly =
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D. Evan Mulvihill wrote:
> after you'd been up on meth for 5 days right?

Nope.  Don't do meth.

After I had been driving from Tampa, FL to Poughkeepsie, NY nonstop.  22 
hours of intense concentration takes a lot out of you.

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Subject: [ne-raves] vRave afraid

Heh... having a conversation with myself. =0A=0ASome of you think the gover=
nment namely this administration can't be bothered with dumb ravers because=
 they have bigger fish to fry. And some of you belong to the tinfoil hat cl=
ub. But people in high places with direct connections and first hand knowle=
dge are starting to speak up about real concerns that everyone should be wo=
rried about no matter if you're a staunch conservative or liberal peacenik.=
 Just thought I'd bring it up. The government... they want it all. =0A=0AAn=
 excerpt of Mark Klein speaking to Frontline about his discovery of the con=
nection between AT&T and the National Security Agency (NSA)=0Ahttp://www.pb=
s.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/homefront/interviews/klein.html=0A=0A"=0AThat's =
right. They have no way of sifting it out unless they look=0Athrough it lat=
er. Now they can claim, "Oh, we are right as rain; we're=0Aonly doing the l=
egal thing and selecting out a few people that we're=0Alegally entitled to,=
" but that's only after they get all the data. The=0Aanalogy I use: If the =
government claims, "Well, when you do your taxes,=0Awhy don't you just writ=
e me a blank check and we'll fill in the amount?=0ADon't worry. We'll do it=
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trust the government by writing a blank check=0Ato them. It's the same thin=
g with the data we're giving them. ...=0A=0A=0A=0AWhen the founders wrote t=
he Fourth Amendment, they had a specific=0Aantagonism against what were cal=
led general warrants, as you might=0Aknow. General warrants is when the Bri=
tish troops would come in with a=0Awarrant and say: "We have the right to s=
earch your house. We're looking=0Afor something. Looking for what? We can't=
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They can turn your life=0Aupside down, and the colonialists [sic] hated tha=
t.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ASo the Fourth Amendment specifically bans general warrants=
. It calls=0Afor specific warrants in which the things to be seized and the=
 persons=0Ato be seized are specifically named. There's a reason for that. =
It's to=0Aprotect against arbitrary government power. And what they've done=
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al=0Awarrant on the Internet.=0A"=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: =
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what up peeps,
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just wanted to post every1 up on my latest mix
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Purple Sunset
Deep House
54 Min
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sorry guys, this link should work :)
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http://www.talamazoo.com/DJ_MetaBoliK/music/PURPLE_SUNSET_1113
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or try
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went to see the POTD at sonar in baltimore last night - FANTASTIC.

they've come back stronger and bolder and deeper than ever.

last night was EPIC.

don't miss the Intro - personalized for each city.  :)

there were surprises, so stay alert.

sonar was packed and the vibe was *thick* with collective delirium.  :)

american dnb is ALIVE and WELL!  =D

when messinian called for noise, the screams and shouts were deafening.  :)

plus this is POTD's unprecedented 8th consecutive year of touring - no
other edm act has run this long so strong!

treat yourself!  :)

respectfully,
mary :)

                                                          
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Direct Drive Presents
THURSDAY, MAY 17th 2007

One night only!

Planet of the Drums features 3 of America's Top DJ's along with Direct
Drive's man with the plan. Get ready as they all throw down at the New and
Improved Sullivan Room which has a killer sound system and twice as much
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Get ready for this!!!

Dieselboy
AK1200
DARA
MC MESSINIAN

DJ SEOUL


At The New & Improved:
SULLIVAN ROOM - 218 Sullivan St
*more room and more sound!
(Between West 3rd St & Bleecker St)
New York, NY 10012

By subway:
A,C,E,B,D,F,V to West 4th Street

$10 in Adv, $15 at Door
Purchase Tickets Here: http://groovetickets.com/directdrive
10 to 4am, 21+ Must Bring ID
Get Involved, Email us: Info@directdrive.net

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nice one!!  can't wait for tonight!!  POTD is always insane.
  

Mary Morris <morrism@washpost.com> wrote:
  
went to see the POTD at sonar in baltimore last night - FANTASTIC.

they've come back stronger and bolder and deeper than ever.

last night was EPIC.

don't miss the Intro - personalized for each city. :)

there were surprises, so stay alert.

sonar was packed and the vibe was *thick* with collective delirium. :)

american dnb is ALIVE and WELL! =D

when messinian called for noise, the screams and shouts were deafening. :)

plus this is POTD's unprecedented 8th consecutive year of touring - no
other edm act has run this long so strong!

treat yourself! :)

respectfully,
mary :)


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Subject: 05/17: PLANET OF THE DRUMS @ Sullivan Room 
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Direct Drive Presents
THURSDAY, MAY 17th 2007

One night only!

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Get ready for this!!!

Dieselboy
AK1200
DARA
MC MESSINIAN

DJ SEOUL


At The New & Improved:
SULLIVAN ROOM - 218 Sullivan St
*more room and more sound!
(Between West 3rd St & Bleecker St)
New York, NY 10012

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$10 in Adv, $15 at Door
Purchase Tickets Here: http://groovetickets.com/directdrive
10 to 4am, 21+ Must Bring ID
Get Involved, Email us: Info@directdrive.net

WWW.DIRECTDRIVE.NET

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Curious to hear this as well. In theory it's possible, but that's obvious. 


 
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Subject: [ne-raves] Dance Parade - NYC - 5/19

This is the first time this is happening in NYC and it should be a lot of fun.
There's a huge mix of different sounds and, so far, about 6000+ people have
registered to participate.  Myself and others will be dropping some Core on the
Blackkat Collective float.  You can sign up to dance/march with it, or any
other, at http://www.danceparade.org/join/dance.php .  You do need to sign up
to actually walk/dance in the parade, rather than just watch.  Blackkat's float
is listed as "Tribal : Blackkat Collective" in the pulldown window on the page.

After the parade, I'll be dropping some visuals for the after party over at
Element.  Here's the flyer for the after party.

http://www.danceparade.org/pix/dpafterparty2up.jpg

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DJ Satori posted a track last summer on the DC Raves list... I made the
mistake of listening to it at work...

WOW




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Subject: [ne-raves] 2nd try - the disease in US Re: [ne-raves] vRave afraid

I am not sure if the first one got through so here goes
-------------------------------------------------------

Yeah well I'm just catching up on lots of stuff on list mail and such.
So I have other reactions to add - but it's very simple really--

Yes we are being actively spied on in a more sophisticated and pervasive manner
and its being built in to the day to day communication infrastructure.

Yes people who are at all points on the political spectrum of left to right are
speaking up and fighting it and yes the mainstream media ignores, minimizes, or
discounts these concerns.

Bottom line we have one choice - give in to fear or choose to wake up and do a
few simple small things each week to make our situation better.

So I have focused on the local small scale issues in NYC since it affects many
of us on here directly and it's easier to see what's going on.

Again I would encourage people to read this site regularly
 onnyturf.com
it links yesterday to the full 600 page report of how NYPD spied on people
during Republican National Convention period  

Yes the U.S. - America - our home our society... us is suffering from a serious
disease - the best metaphor for this disease is not cancer no its something
more like an autoimmune disease.  Its when the body attacks and destroys itself
and cant recognize foreign bacteria or viruses or diseased tissue from the
body's own health tissue.

This process is what is systematically happening in America now - so any groups
and individuals that speak up to protest are targetted for surveillance

see the story in today's NYTimes on the judge ordering release of NYPD spying
on
average citizens

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/17/nyregion/17convention.html?ei=5090&en=f77454235143f4ee&ex=1337054400&adxnnl=1&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&adxnnlx=1179410462-/quXr3lZRGj8m4/6wtkmFg
Judge Orders Police Department Files on Preconvention Surveillance Opened
By COLIN MOYNIHAN
Published: May 17, 2007

------------------------------------------------
Giving in to fear and giving up is no solution...
--------------------------------------------------

So today the the attack on privacy, freedom of speech and freedom of assembly
and association is spreading beyond behavior - it moves more clearly into the
area of what used to be called thought-crimes in the old sci-fi context and in
the real world of communisim back in the day.
But hey thats good that we're getting down to the essence of things now -
because it really is about controlling thought and culture and your own body.

That is the issue now and so its better to have crazy exaggerated things like
attacking a music CD designed for altering states of consciousness and making
the association to drugs..... because because it never was...

Yes because it never was about drugs anyway - it always was and is now about
controlling culture and individual behavior and choice.

So its easier to make it clear to more people just what is at stake.

And it becomes easier to connect the dots.

Dot 1- attacking electronic music CDs of youth associated with a "high"
Dot 2- not attacking baby boomer new age CDs that do the same thing

Dot 3- NYPD and NYC council members that want to ban 18-21 year olds from going
to any dance club that sells alcohol
Dot 4- NYPD and NYC council members saying its OK for 18-21 to go to a sports
bar that sells alcohol

its simple really - they want to promote a culture around the sports clubs and
discourage a culture that forms around dancing. It could not be more obvious.

This is happening now people...

The first step is always waking up...
 peace
   ralph/kairos

Quoting Spurty <spurty_brown@yahoo.com>:

> Heh... having a conversation with myself.
>
> Some of you think the government namely this administration can't be bothered
> with dumb ravers because they have bigger fish to fry. And some of you belong
> to the tinfoil hat club. But people in high places with direct connections
> and first hand knowledge are starting to speak up about real concerns that
> everyone should be worried about no matter if you're a staunch conservative
> or liberal peacenik. Just thought I'd bring it up. The government... they
> want it all.
>
> An excerpt of Mark Klein speaking to Frontline about his discovery of the
> connection between AT&T and the National Security Agency (NSA)
> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/homefront/interviews/klein.html
>
> "
> That's right. They have no way of sifting it out unless they look
> through it later. Now they can claim, "Oh, we are right as rain; we're
> only doing the legal thing and selecting out a few people that we're
> legally entitled to," but that's only after they get all the data. The
> analogy I use: If the government claims, "Well, when you do your taxes,
> why don't you just write me a blank check and we'll fill in the amount?
> Don't worry. We'll do it legal. We'll fill in the right amount," would
> you do that? Nobody would trust the government by writing a blank check
> to them. It's the same thing with the data we're giving them. ...
> 


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Does this mean the straight edge kids will have to stop listening to music?

On 5/16/07, Spurty <spurty_brown@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Um yeah... some of us have known about this for some time now. Has big
> media forgotten about the evils of rave already? They're taking out the
> social aspect and turning kids into isolated bedroom tweakers. Curious to
> hear the music.
> ________________________
>
> Getting high from music?
> http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=local&id=5312070
>
> (New York - WABC, May 16, 2007) - There's a CD out on the market that
> apparently gives the listener the feeling of getting high -- high like on
> drugs.
>
>
>                        Different sounds apparently trigger highs from
> different drugs. And young kids know about this.
>
> Eyewitness News reporter Jeff Rossen has the story.
>
>
> Euphoria in a box -- a CD delivered right to your home. The makers say,
> just listen.and you'll get high.
>
>
> One track is supposed to make you feel like you're on peyote. Another
> one is supposed to give you the feeling of smoking marijuana.
>
> It sounds like a mish-mosh of bizarre sounds with a beat behind
> it. It's catching on with suburban high school kids. In Wanaque, New
> Jersey, they swear it works.
>
> The CD goes for about $20 dollars online from a company with no address
> or contact number. On the CD case, the makers explain how it works:
> binaural soundwaves that synchronize your brain giving you the
> sensation of a drug high.
>
> Dr. Darius Kohan is an autologist neurologist at NYU -- basically an
> expert on how the ear affects the brain. So, we asked him, is this
> medically possible?
>
>
> "Music will never make you ... hallucinate," Dr. Kohan said.
>
> I listened in silence to the entire 15 minute track. Doctors say
> the CD itself cannot hurt you. But drug experts are worried, worried
> for the kids who take it to the next level.
>
> Could it be the new gateway drug? A legal CD available to anyone with
> access to the Internet? Whatever the case, it's an alert for all
> parents.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] 2nd try - the disease in US Re: [ne-raves] vRave afraid

Dot 3- NYPD and NYC council members that want to ban 18-21 year olds from going
to any dance club that sells alcohol
Dot 4- NYPD and NYC council members saying its OK for 18-21 to go to a sports
bar that sells alcohol


you're an idiot if you're trying to make a connection here.

On 5/17/07, keymaker@publicspaceforall.com
<keymaker@publicspaceforall.com> wrote:
> I am not sure if the first one got through so here goes
> -------------------------------------------------------
>
> Yeah well I'm just catching up on lots of stuff on list mail and such.
> So I have other reactions to add - but it's very simple really--
>
> Yes we are being actively spied on in a more sophisticated and pervasive manner
> and its being built in to the day to day communication infrastructure.
>
> Yes people who are at all points on the political spectrum of left to right are
> speaking up and fighting it and yes the mainstream media ignores, minimizes, or
> discounts these concerns.
>
> Bottom line we have one choice - give in to fear or choose to wake up and do a
> few simple small things each week to make our situation better.
>
> So I have focused on the local small scale issues in NYC since it affects many
> of us on here directly and it's easier to see what's going on.
>
> Again I would encourage people to read this site regularly
>  onnyturf.com
> it links yesterday to the full 600 page report of how NYPD spied on people
> during Republican National Convention period
>
> Yes the U.S. - America - our home our society... us is suffering from a serious
> disease - the best metaphor for this disease is not cancer no its something
> more like an autoimmune disease.  Its when the body attacks and destroys itself
> and cant recognize foreign bacteria or viruses or diseased tissue from the
> body's own health tissue.
>
> This process is what is systematically happening in America now - so any groups
> and individuals that speak up to protest are targetted for surveillance
>
> see the story in today's NYTimes on the judge ordering release of NYPD spying
> on
> average citizens
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/17/nyregion/17convention.html?ei=5090&en=f77454235143f4ee&ex=1337054400&adxnnl=1&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&adxnnlx=1179410462-/quXr3lZRGj8m4/6wtkmFg
> Judge Orders Police Department Files on Preconvention Surveillance Opened
> By COLIN MOYNIHAN
> Published: May 17, 2007
>
> ------------------------------------------------
> Giving in to fear and giving up is no solution...
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> So today the the attack on privacy, freedom of speech and freedom of assembly
> and association is spreading beyond behavior - it moves more clearly into the
> area of what used to be called thought-crimes in the old sci-fi context and in
> the real world of communisim back in the day.
> But hey thats good that we're getting down to the essence of things now -
> because it really is about controlling thought and culture and your own body.
>
> That is the issue now and so its better to have crazy exaggerated things like
> attacking a music CD designed for altering states of consciousness and making
> the association to drugs..... because because it never was...
>
> Yes because it never was about drugs anyway - it always was and is now about
> controlling culture and individual behavior and choice.
>
> So its easier to make it clear to more people just what is at stake.
>
> And it becomes easier to connect the dots.
>
> Dot 1- attacking electronic music CDs of youth associated with a "high"
> Dot 2- not attacking baby boomer new age CDs that do the same thing
>
> Dot 3- NYPD and NYC council members that want to ban 18-21 year olds from going
> to any dance club that sells alcohol
> Dot 4- NYPD and NYC council members saying its OK for 18-21 to go to a sports
> bar that sells alcohol
>
> its simple really - they want to promote a culture around the sports clubs and
> discourage a culture that forms around dancing. It could not be more obvious.
>
> This is happening now people...
>
> The first step is always waking up...
>  peace
>    ralph/kairos
>
> Quoting Spurty <spurty_brown@yahoo.com>:
>
> > Heh... having a conversation with myself.
> >
> > Some of you think the government namely this administration can't be bothered
> > with dumb ravers because they have bigger fish to fry. And some of you belong
> > to the tinfoil hat club. But people in high places with direct connections
> > and first hand knowledge are starting to speak up about real concerns that
> > everyone should be worried about no matter if you're a staunch conservative
> > or liberal peacenik. Just thought I'd bring it up. The government... they
> > want it all.
> >
> > An excerpt of Mark Klein speaking to Frontline about his discovery of the
> > connection between AT&T and the National Security Agency (NSA)
> > http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/homefront/interviews/klein.html
> >
> > "
> > That's right. They have no way of sifting it out unless they look
> > through it later. Now they can claim, "Oh, we are right as rain; we're
> > only doing the legal thing and selecting out a few people that we're
> > legally entitled to," but that's only after they get all the data. The
> > analogy I use: If the government claims, "Well, when you do your taxes,
> > why don't you just write me a blank check and we'll fill in the amount?
> > Don't worry. We'll do it legal. We'll fill in the right amount," would
> > you do that? Nobody would trust the government by writing a blank check
> > to them. It's the same thing with the data we're giving them. ...
> >
>
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When you have an 18+ club night in NYC, you have underage kids getting
really drunk and older parasites taking advantage of them. 18+ nights I've
been to are not about promoting a culture of dance... they're about rape.
What happens at sports bars? Maybe some underagers will get drunk but no
real harm is done. If there were a teeming dance culture that is supposedly
being oppressed, why isn't there any market for dance clubs where no alcohol
is served? Isn't alcohol more conducive to hump-dancing than the expressive
and creative dancing a "dance culture" would promote?

On 5/17/07, Ed Hoc <meatsock@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dot 3- NYPD and NYC council members that want to ban 18-21 year olds from
> going
> to any dance club that sells alcohol
> Dot 4- NYPD and NYC council members saying its OK for 18-21 to go to a
> sports
> bar that sells alcohol
>
>
> you're an idiot if you're trying to make a connection here.
>
> On 5/17/07, keymaker@publicspaceforall.com
> <keymaker@publicspaceforall.com> wrote:
> > I am not sure if the first one got through so here goes
> > -------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Yeah well I'm just catching up on lots of stuff on list mail and such.
> > So I have other reactions to add - but it's very simple really--
> >
> > Yes we are being actively spied on in a more sophisticated and pervasive
> manner
> > and its being built in to the day to day communication infrastructure.
> >
> > Yes people who are at all points on the political spectrum of left to
> right are
> > speaking up and fighting it and yes the mainstream media ignores,
> minimizes, or
> > discounts these concerns.
> >
> > Bottom line we have one choice - give in to fear or choose to wake up
> and do a
> > few simple small things each week to make our situation better.
> >
> > So I have focused on the local small scale issues in NYC since it
> affects many
> > of us on here directly and it's easier to see what's going on.
> >
> > Again I would encourage people to read this site regularly
> >  onnyturf.com
> > it links yesterday to the full 600 page report of how NYPD spied on
> people
> > during Republican National Convention period
> >
> > Yes the U.S. - America - our home our society... us is suffering from a
> serious
> > disease - the best metaphor for this disease is not cancer no its
> something
> > more like an autoimmune disease.  Its when the body attacks and destroys
> itself
> > and cant recognize foreign bacteria or viruses or diseased tissue from
> the
> > body's own health tissue.
> >
> > This process is what is systematically happening in America now - so any
> groups
> > and individuals that speak up to protest are targetted for surveillance
> >
> > see the story in today's NYTimes on the judge ordering release of NYPD
> spying
> > on
> > average citizens
> >
> >
> http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/17/nyregion/17convention.html?ei=5090&en=f77454235143f4ee&ex=1337054400&adxnnl=1&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&adxnnlx=1179410462-/quXr3lZRGj8m4/6wtkmFg
> > Judge Orders Police Department Files on Preconvention Surveillance
> Opened
> > By COLIN MOYNIHAN
> > Published: May 17, 2007
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------
> > Giving in to fear and giving up is no solution...
> > --------------------------------------------------
> >
> > So today the the attack on privacy, freedom of speech and freedom of
> assembly
> > and association is spreading beyond behavior - it moves more clearly
> into the
> > area of what used to be called thought-crimes in the old sci-fi context
> and in
> > the real world of communisim back in the day.
> > But hey thats good that we're getting down to the essence of things now
> -
> > because it really is about controlling thought and culture and your own
> body.
> >
> > That is the issue now and so its better to have crazy exaggerated things
> like
> > attacking a music CD designed for altering states of consciousness and
> making
> > the association to drugs..... because because it never was...
> >
> > Yes because it never was about drugs anyway - it always was and is now
> about
> > controlling culture and individual behavior and choice.
> >
> > So its easier to make it clear to more people just what is at stake.
> >
> > And it becomes easier to connect the dots.
> >
> > Dot 1- attacking electronic music CDs of youth associated with a "high"
> > Dot 2- not attacking baby boomer new age CDs that do the same thing
> >
> > Dot 3- NYPD and NYC council members that want to ban 18-21 year olds
> from going
> > to any dance club that sells alcohol
> > Dot 4- NYPD and NYC council members saying its OK for 18-21 to go to a
> sports
> > bar that sells alcohol
> >
> > its simple really - they want to promote a culture around the sports
> clubs and
> > discourage a culture that forms around dancing. It could not be more
> obvious.
> >
> > This is happening now people...
> >
> > The first step is always waking up...
> >  peace
> >    ralph/kairos
> >
> > Quoting Spurty <spurty_brown@yahoo.com>:
> >
> > > Heh... having a conversation with myself.
> > >
> > > Some of you think the government namely this administration can't be
> bothered
> > > with dumb ravers because they have bigger fish to fry. And some of you
> belong
> > > to the tinfoil hat club. But people in high places with direct
> connections
> > > and first hand knowledge are starting to speak up about real concerns
> that
> > > everyone should be worried about no matter if you're a staunch
> conservative
> > > or liberal peacenik. Just thought I'd bring it up. The government...
> they
> > > want it all.
> > >
> > > An excerpt of Mark Klein speaking to Frontline about his discovery of
> the
> > > connection between AT&T and the National Security Agency (NSA)
> > >
> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/homefront/interviews/klein.html
> > >
> > > "
> > > That's right. They have no way of sifting it out unless they look
> > > through it later. Now they can claim, "Oh, we are right as rain; we're
> > > only doing the legal thing and selecting out a few people that we're
> > > legally entitled to," but that's only after they get all the data. The
> > > analogy I use: If the government claims, "Well, when you do your
> taxes,
> > > why don't you just write me a blank check and we'll fill in the
> amount?
> > > Don't worry. We'll do it legal. We'll fill in the right amount," would
> > > you do that? Nobody would trust the government by writing a blank
> check
> > > to them. It's the same thing with the data we're giving them. ...
> > >
> >
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rape, shootings etc is mostly rap and rock stuff related
i have never seen anything like that going on at techno clubs
other then the roofie thing in florida years back
infact we have put on 16 events in the last 18 months in nyc
and never had any violence or trouble at our partys
(and we do have a healthy mix betw all ages)



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> When you have an 18+ club night in NYC, you have underage kids getting
> really drunk and older parasites taking advantage of them. 18+ nights I've
> been to are not about promoting a culture of dance... they're about rape.
> What happens at sports bars? Maybe some underagers will get drunk but no
> real harm is done. If there were a teeming dance culture that is
supposedly
> being oppressed, why isn't there any market for dance clubs where no
alcohol
> is served? Isn't alcohol more conducive to hump-dancing than the
expressive
> and creative dancing a "dance culture" would promote?
>
> On 5/17/07, Ed Hoc <meatsock@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Dot 3- NYPD and NYC council members that want to ban 18-21 year olds
from
> > going
> > to any dance club that sells alcohol
> > Dot 4- NYPD and NYC council members saying its OK for 18-21 to go to a
> > sports
> > bar that sells alcohol
> >
> >
> > you're an idiot if you're trying to make a connection here.
> >
> > On 5/17/07, keymaker@publicspaceforall.com
> > <keymaker@publicspaceforall.com> wrote:
> > > I am not sure if the first one got through so here goes
> > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yeah well I'm just catching up on lots of stuff on list mail and such.
> > > So I have other reactions to add - but it's very simple really--
> > >
> > > Yes we are being actively spied on in a more sophisticated and
pervasive
> > manner
> > > and its being built in to the day to day communication infrastructure.
> > >
> > > Yes people who are at all points on the political spectrum of left to
> > right are
> > > speaking up and fighting it and yes the mainstream media ignores,
> > minimizes, or
> > > discounts these concerns.
> > >
> > > Bottom line we have one choice - give in to fear or choose to wake up
> > and do a
> > > few simple small things each week to make our situation better.
> > >
> > > So I have focused on the local small scale issues in NYC since it
> > affects many
> > > of us on here directly and it's easier to see what's going on.
> > >
> > > Again I would encourage people to read this site regularly
> > >  onnyturf.com
> > > it links yesterday to the full 600 page report of how NYPD spied on
> > people
> > > during Republican National Convention period
> > >
> > > Yes the U.S. - America - our home our society... us is suffering from
a
> > serious
> > > disease - the best metaphor for this disease is not cancer no its
> > something
> > > more like an autoimmune disease.  Its when the body attacks and
destroys
> > itself
> > > and cant recognize foreign bacteria or viruses or diseased tissue from
> > the
> > > body's own health tissue.
> > >
> > > This process is what is systematically happening in America now - so
any
> > groups
> > > and individuals that speak up to protest are targetted for
surveillance
> > >
> > > see the story in today's NYTimes on the judge ordering release of NYPD
> > spying
> > > on
> > > average citizens
> > >
> > >
> >
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/17/nyregion/17convention.html?ei=5090&en=f774
54235143f4ee&ex=1337054400&adxnnl=1&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&adxnnlx=1179
410462-/quXr3lZRGj8m4/6wtkmFg
> > > Judge Orders Police Department Files on Preconvention Surveillance
> > Opened
> > > By COLIN MOYNIHAN
> > > Published: May 17, 2007
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------------------
> > > Giving in to fear and giving up is no solution...
> > > --------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > So today the the attack on privacy, freedom of speech and freedom of
> > assembly
> > > and association is spreading beyond behavior - it moves more clearly
> > into the
> > > area of what used to be called thought-crimes in the old sci-fi
context
> > and in
> > > the real world of communisim back in the day.
> > > But hey thats good that we're getting down to the essence of things
now
> > -
> > > because it really is about controlling thought and culture and your
own
> > body.
> > >
> > > That is the issue now and so its better to have crazy exaggerated
things
> > like
> > > attacking a music CD designed for altering states of consciousness and
> > making
> > > the association to drugs..... because because it never was...
> > >
> > > Yes because it never was about drugs anyway - it always was and is now
> > about
> > > controlling culture and individual behavior and choice.
> > >
> > > So its easier to make it clear to more people just what is at stake.
> > >
> > > And it becomes easier to connect the dots.
> > >
> > > Dot 1- attacking electronic music CDs of youth associated with a
"high"
> > > Dot 2- not attacking baby boomer new age CDs that do the same thing
> > >
> > > Dot 3- NYPD and NYC council members that want to ban 18-21 year olds
> > from going
> > > to any dance club that sells alcohol
> > > Dot 4- NYPD and NYC council members saying its OK for 18-21 to go to a
> > sports
> > > bar that sells alcohol
> > >
> > > its simple really - they want to promote a culture around the sports
> > clubs and
> > > discourage a culture that forms around dancing. It could not be more
> > obvious.
> > >
> > > This is happening now people...
> > >
> > > The first step is always waking up...
> > >  peace
> > >    ralph/kairos
> > >
> > > Quoting Spurty <spurty_brown@yahoo.com>:
> > >
> > > > Heh... having a conversation with myself.
> > > >
> > > > Some of you think the government namely this administration can't be
> > bothered
> > > > with dumb ravers because they have bigger fish to fry. And some of
you
> > belong
> > > > to the tinfoil hat club. But people in high places with direct
> > connections
> > > > and first hand knowledge are starting to speak up about real
concerns
> > that
> > > > everyone should be worried about no matter if you're a staunch
> > conservative
> > > > or liberal peacenik. Just thought I'd bring it up. The government...
> > they
> > > > want it all.
> > > >
> > > > An excerpt of Mark Klein speaking to Frontline about his discovery
of
> > the
> > > > connection between AT&T and the National Security Agency (NSA)
> > > >
> > http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/homefront/interviews/klein.html
> > > >
> > > > "
> > > > That's right. They have no way of sifting it out unless they look
> > > > through it later. Now they can claim, "Oh, we are right as rain;
we're
> > > > only doing the legal thing and selecting out a few people that we're
> > > > legally entitled to," but that's only after they get all the data.
The
> > > > analogy I use: If the government claims, "Well, when you do your
> > taxes,
> > > > why don't you just write me a blank check and we'll fill in the
> > amount?
> > > > Don't worry. We'll do it legal. We'll fill in the right amount,"
would
> > > > you do that? Nobody would trust the government by writing a blank
> > check
> > > > to them. It's the same thing with the data we're giving them. ...
> > > >
> > >
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They still need lots o' volunteers too, so if any of you feel up to it, you should donate your services!! :-) 
 
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This is the first time this is happening in NYC and it should be a lot of fun.
There's a huge mix of different sounds and, so far, about 6000+ people have
registered to participate.  Myself and others will be dropping some Core on the
Blackkat Collective float.  You can sign up to dance/march with it, or any
other, at http://www.danceparade.org/join/dance.php .  You do need to sign up
to actually walk/dance in the parade, rather than just watch.  Blackkat's float
is listed as "Tribal : Blackkat Collective" in the pulldown window on the page.

After the parade, I'll be dropping some visuals for the after party over at
Element.  Here's the flyer for the after party.

http://www.danceparade.org/pix/dpafterparty2up.jpg

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I am editing this first reply and testing which email its best to use for ne-raves since I've had some trouble getting my mail out from the publicspaceforall.com domain (its a problem for the whole hosting server not just my domain).  And I am relaunching publicspaceforall.com on another server with a new website and blog on the solstice June 21st.  The focus is on a serious attempt to connect the dots and network across community groups in NYC area.  I may switch over on all email here after this post goes through.
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Evan,
I'm glad you are posting a serious reply. And I'm giving a serious response.
Sadly I'd have to say your response is not uncommon around NYC but I still think it is mistaken and dangerous.



Or to put it another way - I get the feeling that when people jump to a response like you did, its like a reflex almost and it falls into a trap.


I have gone to some of the clubs and warehouse events in Brooklyn or PS1 or quite a few things that have some alcohol but its not the focus.   I think you are giving in to the worst stereotypes of the mega clubs in the city. I'm not defending them. I am saying this - that people who want to restrict dance music culture and

restrict freedom to associate with your own social group use these stereotypes in the worst way. They become mental magnets that disrupt clear thinking. The worst thing is when people in dance music let that mental magnet take hold.



But its only a small piece of the puzzle - the other actual forces at work arethe city policies (the new noise code, zoning, caberet laws, housing policy, community board rules, etc. etc.) that make it almost impossible to have

reliable venues that can support themselves economically and host dance music events without relying on alcohol sales.



In this we need to compare NYC to other cities. I can only speak now from experience going back several years (since I have been back in NY area for four years now). Seattle was very different - there were many many more pportunities for easy regular dance music events at night and during the day. 

And there was a stronger sense of "the dance music community".



I put that in quotes to call attention to a danger - I am not talking abstractions.  I am talking day to day ways people support each other and identify with a culture too.



Recent example - Jason Blackkat at the end of May Day a couple weeks back asked for donations for a speaker that blew out during the event. I went up to him and gave some money. I doubt other people did.  If the same thing happened in Seattle more people would have donated.

Why? Simple - because many many more times the people who turn out for events would see each other at those same events and feel connected to the people breaking their backs to put on the events.



There are other events that do not have alcohol as a part and there are some where it helps with the money-side but its not a focus of the event or the environment. Really alcohol is not the issue.



The issue to me is carving out some POS and not falling for the old ideal of  TAZ.



In NYC the only option is a reverse flow of sorts. 

We can't run and hide and hope for some kind of TAZ - temporary autonomous zone - to keep it real.



Lets face the real situation on the ground - things that are not commercialized are being closed down week by week. And the future horizon hints at the types of commerical access being limited even more - less viable dance venues while other commercial venues are allowed to operate. 



The opposite of TAZ is POS - permanent open zones. This may not be so much of a concern on this list.  But this distinction is useful for groups that organize events outside of clubs in and around NYC.

PS1 is an example in part of an open zone.  I use the term kind of loosely. It is open in that many ages and all sorts of people are welcome and use the summer dj events to hang out and mix freely. I won't name some others (3rd ward was one that was viable until harrassed by the NYPD) because I know the list is monitored and why call attention to details when not necessary.



There is a bigger issue in your reply.

That bigger issue  is: where do you draw the line on adulthood.



Creating this new grey zone of adulthood 18-21  was always a disaster waiting to happen - it is a falsehood a ruse well done during the 1980s in the early period of the drug war. Before then it was 18+ to drink and there was a consistent line for adulthood.



So now here is what we might get in the next year or so---
You can volunteer to go to Afghanistan to defend America and get your arm blown off but if you can back to NYC you can't even go out to socialize in a dance club.  What kind of fucking sense does that make?



Sad to say it makes perfect sense if you want to divide and discourage people from freely getting together.



So why don't we ask what makes us stronger? What makes people 18 to 21 stronger?

What makes it possible to get support from each other?

 seriously...

  ralph/kaiors

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From: D. Evan Mulvihill <d.evan.mulvihill@gmail.com>
To: North East Raves <ne-raves@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 5:44:25 PM
Subject: Re: [ne-raves] 2nd try - the disease in US Re: [ne-raves] vRave afraid

When you have an 18+ club night in NYC, you have underage kids getting
really drunk and older parasites taking advantage of them. 18+ nights I've
been to are not about promoting a culture of dance... they're about rape.
What happens at sports bars? Maybe some underagers will get drunk but no
real harm is done. If there were a teeming dance culture that is supposedly
being oppressed, why isn't there any market for dance clubs where no alcohol
is served? Isn't alcohol more conducive to hump-dancing than the expressive
and creative dancing a "dance culture" would promote?

On 5/17/07, Ed Hoc <meatsock@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dot 3- NYPD and NYC council members that want to ban 18-21 year olds from
> going
> to any dance club that sells alcohol
> Dot 4- NYPD and NYC council members saying its OK for 18-21 to go to a
> sports
> bar that sells alcohol
>
>
> you're an idiot if you're trying to make a connection here.
>
> On 5/17/07, keymaker@publicspaceforall.com
> <keymaker@publicspaceforall.com> wrote:
> > I am not sure if the first one got through so here goes
> > -------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Yeah well I'm just catching up on lots of stuff on list mail and such.
> > So I have other reactions to add - but it's very simple really--
> >
> > Yes we are being actively spied on in a more sophisticated and pervasive
> manner
> > and its being built in to the day to day communication infrastructure.
> >
> > Yes people who are at all points on the political spectrum of left to
> right are
> > speaking up and fighting it and yes the mainstream media ignores,
> minimizes, or
> > discounts these concerns.
> >
> > Bottom line we have one choice - give in to fear or choose to wake up
> and do a
> > few simple small things each week to make our situation better.
> >
> > So I have focused on the local small scale issues in NYC since it
> affects many
> > of us on here directly and it's easier to see what's going on.
> >
> > Again I would encourage people to read this site regularly
> >  onnyturf.com
> > it links yesterday to the full 600 page report of how NYPD spied on
> people
> > during Republican National Convention period
> >
> > Yes the U.S. - America - our home our society... us is suffering from a
> serious
> > disease - the best metaphor for this disease is not cancer no its
> something
> > more like an autoimmune disease.  Its when the body attacks and destroys
> itself
> > and cant recognize foreign bacteria or viruses or diseased tissue from
> the
> > body's own health tissue.
> >
> > This process is what is systematically happening in America now - so any
> groups
> > and individuals that speak up to protest are targetted for surveillance
> >
> > see the story in today's NYTimes on the judge ordering release of NYPD
> spying
> > on
> > average citizens
> >
> >
> http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/17/nyregion/17convention.html?ei=5090&en=f77454235143f4ee&ex=1337054400&adxnnl=1&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&adxnnlx=1179410462-/quXr3lZRGj8m4/6wtkmFg
> > Judge Orders Police Department Files on Preconvention Surveillance
> Opened
> > By COLIN MOYNIHAN
> > Published: May 17, 2007
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------
> > Giving in to fear and giving up is no solution...
> > --------------------------------------------------
> >
> > So today the the attack on privacy, freedom of speech and freedom of
> assembly
> > and association is spreading beyond behavior - it moves more clearly
> into the
> > area of what used to be called thought-crimes in the old sci-fi context
> and in
> > the real world of communisim back in the day.
> > But hey thats good that we're getting down to the essence of things now
> -
> > because it really is about controlling thought and culture and your own
> body.
> >
> > That is the issue now and so its better to have crazy exaggerated things
> like
> > attacking a music CD designed for altering states of consciousness and
> making
> > the association to drugs..... because because it never was...
> >
> > Yes because it never was about drugs anyway - it always was and is now
> about
> > controlling culture and individual behavior and choice.
> >
> > So its easier to make it clear to more people just what is at stake.
> >
> > And it becomes easier to connect the dots.
> >
> > Dot 1- attacking electronic music CDs of youth associated with a "high"
> > Dot 2- not attacking baby boomer new age CDs that do the same thing
> >
> > Dot 3- NYPD and NYC council members that want to ban 18-21 year olds
> from going
> > to any dance club that sells alcohol
> > Dot 4- NYPD and NYC council members saying its OK for 18-21 to go to a
> sports
> > bar that sells alcohol
> >
> > its simple really - they want to promote a culture around the sports
> clubs and
> > discourage a culture that forms around dancing. It could not be more
> obvious.
> >
> > This is happening now people...
> >
> > The first step is always waking up...
> >  peace
> >    ralph/kairos
> >
> > Quoting Spurty <spurty_brown@yahoo.com>:
> >
> > > Heh... having a conversation with myself.
> > >
> > > Some of you think the government namely this administration can't be
> bothered
> > > with dumb ravers because they have bigger fish to fry. And some of you
> belong
> > > to the tinfoil hat club. But people in high places with direct
> connections
> > > and first hand knowledge are starting to speak up about real concerns
> that
> > > everyone should be worried about no matter if you're a staunch
> conservative
> > > or liberal peacenik. Just thought I'd bring it up. The government...
> they
> > > want it all.
> > >
> > > An excerpt of Mark Klein speaking to Frontline about his discovery of
> the
> > > connection between AT&T and the National Security Agency (NSA)
> > >
> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/homefront/interviews/klein.html
> > >
> > > "
> > > That's right. They have no way of sifting it out unless they look
> > > through it later. Now they can claim, "Oh, we are right as rain; we're
> > > only doing the legal thing and selecting out a few people that we're
> > > legally entitled to," but that's only after they get all the data. The
> > > analogy I use: If the government claims, "Well, when you do your
> taxes,
> > > why don't you just write me a blank check and we'll fill in the
> amount?
> > > Don't worry. We'll do it legal. We'll fill in the right amount," would
> > > you do that? Nobody would trust the government by writing a blank
> check
> > > to them. It's the same thing with the data we're giving them. ...
> > >
> >
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Sorry if this comes through two times but my ISP services are a bit messed and I
probably don't get all my mail through on this unless sent directly.
so here goes
--------------------

To start, I'm glad you are posting a serious reply.

Saddly I'd have to say your response is not uncommon around NYC but I still
think it is mistaken and dangerous.
And drifts in the end to the other post today about banning music CDs that
purport to bring on an altered state simply by listening to the music.

Or to put it another way and to be quite blunt: I'd say your response shows how
you have the repressive cop inside your head already.

For real people, I have gone to some of the clubs and warehouse events in
Brooklyn or PS1 or quite a few things that have some alcohol but its not the
focus.  So really I think you are giving in to the worst stereotypes of the
mega clubs in the city. I'm not defending them.
I am saying this - that people who want to restrict dance music culture and
restrict freedom to associate with your own social group use these stereotypes
in the worst way. They become mental magnets that disrupt clear thinking.
The worst thing is when people in dance music let that mental magnet take hold.

But its only a small piece of the puzzle - the other actual forces at work are
the city policies (the new noise code, zoning, caberet laws, housing policy,
community board rules, etc. etc.) that make it almost impossible to have
reliable venues that can support themselves economically and host dance music
events without relying on alcohol sales.

In this we need to compare NYC to other cities. I can only speak now from
experience going back several years (since I have been back in NY area for four
years now). Seattle was very different - there were many many more
opportunities for easy regular dance music events at night and during the day.
And there was a stronger sense of "the dance music community".

I put that in quotes to call attention to a danger - I am not talking
abstractions.  I am talking day to day ways people support each other and
identify with a culture too.

Recent example - Jason Blackkat at the end of May Day a couple weeks back asked
for donations for a speaker that blew out during the event. I went up to him
and gave some money. I doubt other people did.  If the same thing happened in
Seattle more people would have donated.
Why? Simple - because many many more times the people who turn out for events
would see each other at those same events and feel connected to the people
breaking their backs to put on the events.

Really in NYC its not that way. It can be different. It is not hard to start
changing one thing that holds us back - one thing at a time.

There are other events that do not have alcohol as a part and there are some
where it helps with the money-side but its not a focus of the event or the
environment. Really alcohol is not the issue.

The issue to me is carving out some POS and not same TAZ that know the word.

In NYC the only option is a reverse flow of sorts. We can't run and hide and
hope for some kind of TAZ - temporary autonomous zone - to keep it real.

Lets face the real situation on the ground - things that are not commercialized
are being closed down week by week. And the future horizon hints at the types
of commerical access being limited even more - less viable dance venues while
other commercial venues are allowed to operate.

The opposite is POS - permanent open zones. PS1 is an example in part. I won't
name some others (3rd ward was one that was viable until harrassed by the NYPD)
because I know the list is monitored and why call attention to details when not
necessary.

There is a bigger issue in your reply but I'll stop here for now.
That bigger issue of course is where do you draw the line on adulthood.

Creating this new greyzone of adulthood 18-21  was always a disaster waiting to
happen - it is a falsehood a ruse well done during the 1980s in the early
period of the drug war. Before then it was 18+ to drink and there was a
consistent line for adulthood.

So now here is what we might get - You can volunteer to go to Afganistan to
defend NYC and get your arm blown off but if you can back to NYC you can't even
go out to socialize in a dance club.  What kind of fucking sense does that
make?

Sad to say it makes perfect sense if you want to divide and discourage people
from freely getting together.

So why don't we ask what makes us stronger? What makes people 18 to 21
stronger?
What makes it possible to get support from each other?
 
 seriously...
  ralph/kaiors

Quoting "D. Evan Mulvihill" <d.evan.mulvihill@gmail.com>:

> When you have an 18+ club night in NYC, you have underage kids getting
> really drunk and older parasites taking advantage of them. 18+ nights I've
> been to are not about promoting a culture of dance... they're about rape.
> What happens at sports bars? Maybe some underagers will get drunk but no
> real harm is done. If there were a teeming dance culture that is supposedly
> being oppressed, why isn't there any market for dance clubs where no alcohol
> is served? Isn't alcohol more conducive to hump-dancing than the expressive
> and creative dancing a "dance culture" would promote?
>
> On 5/17/07, Ed Hoc <meatsock@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Dot 3- NYPD and NYC council members that want to ban 18-21 year olds from
> > going
> > to any dance club that sells alcohol
> > Dot 4- NYPD and NYC council members saying its OK for 18-21 to go to a
> > sports
> > bar that sells alcohol
> >
> >
> > you're an idiot if you're trying to make a connection here.
> >


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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Dance Parade - NYC - 5/19

YES! I want to volunteer for "Dance Police". I know. I know. Not the bad kind that you're thinking of who shut down raves and rough up pencil neck DJs who contribute to the delinquency of minors. The good Dance Police who "Give   out citations for people caught NOT dancing!". And spank you if you're cute.

Maybe I'll make a punkass spray paint T with the Arcade Fire lyrics:

"
When daddy comes home, you always start a fight

So the neighbors can dance in the police disco lights



The police disco lights

Now the neighbors can dance!

The police disco lights

Now the neighbors can dance!
"

Yeah, I know AF aren't rave but I'm a geriatric, post-rave retiree. And tell me those lines aren't _perfect_. I tried and tried but rave acts like the Prodigy just aren't as eloquent. But the inside pic on _Experience_ is kind of cool but perhaps overly confrontational for today's political climate and I'm not trying to get my ass thrown in lock down in Guantanamo on the Hudson. America ruled by fear sucks. But we can take baby steps so as not to attract the immediate ire of W and Friends. Right Ralph?

http://www.danceparade.org/join/staff.html

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They still need lots o' volunteers too, so if any of you feel up to it, you should donate your services!! :-) 
 
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Subject: [ne-raves] Dance Parade - NYC - 5/19


This is the first time this is happening in NYC and it should be a lot of fun.
There's a huge mix of different sounds and, so far, about 6000+ people have
registered to participate.  Myself and others will be dropping some Core on the
Blackkat Collective float.  You can sign up to dance/march with it, or any
other, at http://www.danceparade.org/join/dance.php .  You do need to sign up
to actually walk/dance in the parade, rather than just watch.  Blackkat's float
is listed as "Tribal : Blackkat Collective" in the pulldown window on the page.

After the parade, I'll be dropping some visuals for the after party over at
Element.  Here's the flyer for the after party.

http://www.danceparade.org/pix/dpafterparty2up.jpg

-- 
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...you are loosing me here.  how much to people pay to go to dance =

clubs without alcohol sales?  how many nights a week can you get =

enough people into such a club to pay the rent, entertainment, staff, =

etc?  i'd love to see a viable business plan for a nightclub in nyc =

that doesn't serve alcohol and can afford to pay market rates for =

talent that will bring people in the door.

personally, i think it's a mass self delusion that "the man" is out =

to get people who like to dance...take away the drugs (and the =

dressing like people who use drugs), the tagging, and the underage =

kids at raves for 5 years (so "the man" has time to learn that these =

things are not going on), and you will have a free dance =

culture....or just go square dancing.


deknow

-- keymaker@publicspaceforall.com wrote:
But its only a small piece of the puzzle - the other actual forces at =

work are
the city policies (the new noise code, zoning, caberet laws, housing =

policy,
community board rules, etc. etc.) that make it almost impossible to =

have
reliable venues that can support themselves economically and host =

dance music
events without relying on alcohol sales.



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If you're 18 you're an adult, you need to behave like an adult and accept
responsibility for your actions.  If you get drunk and do stupid stuff,
that's your fault.  Stay sober, stay smart, stay safe.

If you're talking about people under 18 getting into clubs then there's this
scenario.  If they aren't getting into trouble in clubs, where are they
getting into trouble?  In some back alley doing tricks for heroin? No matter
what you do some people will find some way to get themselves into trouble.
That's not to say clubs shouldn't try their best to keep the under 18 crowd
out and the heavy hand of the law shouldn't befall those who don't follow
the rules.

And keep in mind, you can't police the populace to 100% safety against their
own stupidity.


> ----- Original Message ----
> From: D. Evan Mulvihill <d.evan.mulvihill@gmail.com>
> To: North East Raves <ne-raves@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 5:44:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [ne-raves] 2nd try - the disease in US Re: [ne-raves] vRave
> afraid
>
> When you have an 18+ club night in NYC, you have underage kids getting
> really drunk and older parasites taking advantage of them. 18+ nights I've
> been to are not about promoting a culture of dance... they're about rape.
> What happens at sports bars? Maybe some underagers will get drunk but no
> real harm is done. If there were a teeming dance culture that is
> supposedly
> being oppressed, why isn't there any market for dance clubs where no
> alcohol
> is served? Isn't alcohol more conducive to hump-dancing than the
> expressive
> and creative dancing a "dance culture" would promote?
>
> On 5/17/07, Ed Hoc <meatsock@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Dot 3- NYPD and NYC council members that want to ban 18-21 year olds
> from
> > going
> > to any dance club that sells alcohol
> > Dot 4- NYPD and NYC council members saying its OK for 18-21 to go to a
> > sports
> > bar that sells alcohol
> >
> >
> > you're an idiot if you're trying to make a connection here.
> >
> > On 5/17/07, keymaker@publicspaceforall.com
> > <keymaker@publicspaceforall.com> wrote:
> > > I am not sure if the first one got through so here goes
> > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yeah well I'm just catching up on lots of stuff on list mail and such.
> > > So I have other reactions to add - but it's very simple really--
> > >
> > > Yes we are being actively spied on in a more sophisticated and
> pervasive
> > manner
> > > and its being built in to the day to day communication infrastructure.
> > >
> > > Yes people who are at all points on the political spectrum of left to
> > right are
> > > speaking up and fighting it and yes the mainstream media ignores,
> > minimizes, or
> > > discounts these concerns.
> > >
> > > Bottom line we have one choice - give in to fear or choose to wake up
> > and do a
> > > few simple small things each week to make our situation better.
> > >
> > > So I have focused on the local small scale issues in NYC since it
> > affects many
> > > of us on here directly and it's easier to see what's going on.
> > >
> > > Again I would encourage people to read this site regularly
> > >  onnyturf.com
> > > it links yesterday to the full 600 page report of how NYPD spied on
> > people
> > > during Republican National Convention period
> > >
> > > Yes the U.S. - America - our home our society... us is suffering from
> a
> > serious
> > > disease - the best metaphor for this disease is not cancer no its
> > something
> > > more like an autoimmune disease.  Its when the body attacks and
> destroys
> > itself
> > > and cant recognize foreign bacteria or viruses or diseased tissue from
> > the
> > > body's own health tissue.
> > >
> > > This process is what is systematically happening in America now - so
> any
> > groups
> > > and individuals that speak up to protest are targetted for
> surveillance
> > >
> > > see the story in today's NYTimes on the judge ordering release of NYPD
> > spying
> > > on
> > > average citizens
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/17/nyregion/17convention.html?ei=5090&en=f77454235143f4ee&ex=1337054400&adxnnl=1&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&adxnnlx=1179410462-/quXr3lZRGj8m4/6wtkmFg
> > > Judge Orders Police Department Files on Preconvention Surveillance
> > Opened
> > > By COLIN MOYNIHAN
> > > Published: May 17, 2007
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------------------
> > > Giving in to fear and giving up is no solution...
> > > --------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > So today the the attack on privacy, freedom of speech and freedom of
> > assembly
> > > and association is spreading beyond behavior - it moves more clearly
> > into the
> > > area of what used to be called thought-crimes in the old sci-fi
> context
> > and in
> > > the real world of communisim back in the day.
> > > But hey thats good that we're getting down to the essence of things
> now
> > -
> > > because it really is about controlling thought and culture and your
> own
> > body.
> > >
> > > That is the issue now and so its better to have crazy exaggerated
> things
> > like
> > > attacking a music CD designed for altering states of consciousness and
> > making
> > > the association to drugs..... because because it never was...
> > >
> > > Yes because it never was about drugs anyway - it always was and is now
> > about
> > > controlling culture and individual behavior and choice.
> > >
> > > So its easier to make it clear to more people just what is at stake.
> > >
> > > And it becomes easier to connect the dots.
> > >
> > > Dot 1- attacking electronic music CDs of youth associated with a
> "high"
> > > Dot 2- not attacking baby boomer new age CDs that do the same thing
> > >
> > > Dot 3- NYPD and NYC council members that want to ban 18-21 year olds
> > from going
> > > to any dance club that sells alcohol
> > > Dot 4- NYPD and NYC council members saying its OK for 18-21 to go to a
> > sports
> > > bar that sells alcohol
> > >
> > > its simple really - they want to promote a culture around the sports
> > clubs and
> > > discourage a culture that forms around dancing. It could not be more
> > obvious.
> > >
> > > This is happening now people...
> > >
> > > The first step is always waking up...
> > >  peace
> > >    ralph/kairos
> > >
> > > Quoting Spurty <spurty_brown@yahoo.com>:
> > >
> > > > Heh... having a conversation with myself.
> > > >
> > > > Some of you think the government namely this administration can't be
> > bothered
> > > > with dumb ravers because they have bigger fish to fry. And some of
> you
> > belong
> > > > to the tinfoil hat club. But people in high places with direct
> > connections
> > > > and first hand knowledge are starting to speak up about real
> concerns
> > that
> > > > everyone should be worried about no matter if you're a staunch
> > conservative
> > > > or liberal peacenik. Just thought I'd bring it up. The government...
> > they
> > > > want it all.
> > > >
> > > > An excerpt of Mark Klein speaking to Frontline about his discovery
> of
> > the
> > > > connection between AT&T and the National Security Agency (NSA)
> > > >
> > http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/homefront/interviews/klein.html
> > > >
> > > > "
> > > > That's right. They have no way of sifting it out unless they look
> > > > through it later. Now they can claim, "Oh, we are right as rain;
> we're
> > > > only doing the legal thing and selecting out a few people that we're
> > > > legally entitled to," but that's only after they get all the data.
> The
> > > > analogy I use: If the government claims, "Well, when you do your
> > taxes,
> > > > why don't you just write me a blank check and we'll fill in the
> > amount?
> > > > Don't worry. We'll do it legal. We'll fill in the right amount,"
> would
> > > > you do that? Nobody would trust the government by writing a blank
> > check
> > > > to them. It's the same thing with the data we're giving them. ...
> > > >
> > >
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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] direct- how far we have fallen the disease in US

A separate anecdote:

Most of the electronic dance scene in DC is dead, for a variety of
reasons.  The larger remaining places that cater to it are *entirely*
alcohol driven, and many of the decisions made are good for sales, but
at the detriment of the larger group.

Ie, headliners on a wednesday start after midnight in a city that's
largely asleep by then.  It boosts the number of hours the small crowd
can drink for... but it completely stunts new folks from wandering in,
and forces some of us who are getting a wee bit older (raises hand!)
to not even consider supporting such nights...

But I digress.

On 5/17/07, keymaker@publicspaceforall.com
<keymaker@publicspaceforall.com> wrote:
>
> Sorry if this comes through two times but my ISP services are a bit messed and I
> probably don't get all my mail through on this unless sent directly.
> so here goes
> --------------------
>
> To start, I'm glad you are posting a serious reply.
>
> Saddly I'd have to say your response is not uncommon around NYC but I still
> think it is mistaken and dangerous.
> And drifts in the end to the other post today about banning music CDs that
> purport to bring on an altered state simply by listening to the music.
>
> Or to put it another way and to be quite blunt: I'd say your response shows how
> you have the repressive cop inside your head already.
>
> For real people, I have gone to some of the clubs and warehouse events in
> Brooklyn or PS1 or quite a few things that have some alcohol but its not the
> focus.  So really I think you are giving in to the worst stereotypes of the
> mega clubs in the city. I'm not defending them.
> I am saying this - that people who want to restrict dance music culture and
> restrict freedom to associate with your own social group use these stereotypes
> in the worst way. They become mental magnets that disrupt clear thinking.
> The worst thing is when people in dance music let that mental magnet take hold.
>
> But its only a small piece of the puzzle - the other actual forces at work are
> the city policies (the new noise code, zoning, caberet laws, housing policy,
> community board rules, etc. etc.) that make it almost impossible to have
> reliable venues that can support themselves economically and host dance music
> events without relying on alcohol sales.
>
> In this we need to compare NYC to other cities. I can only speak now from
> experience going back several years (since I have been back in NY area for four
> years now). Seattle was very different - there were many many more
> opportunities for easy regular dance music events at night and during the day.
> And there was a stronger sense of "the dance music community".
>
> I put that in quotes to call attention to a danger - I am not talking
> abstractions.  I am talking day to day ways people support each other and
> identify with a culture too.
>
> Recent example - Jason Blackkat at the end of May Day a couple weeks back asked
> for donations for a speaker that blew out during the event. I went up to him
> and gave some money. I doubt other people did.  If the same thing happened in
> Seattle more people would have donated.
> Why? Simple - because many many more times the people who turn out for events
> would see each other at those same events and feel connected to the people
> breaking their backs to put on the events.
>
> Really in NYC its not that way. It can be different. It is not hard to start
> changing one thing that holds us back - one thing at a time.
>
> There are other events that do not have alcohol as a part and there are some
> where it helps with the money-side but its not a focus of the event or the
> environment. Really alcohol is not the issue.
>
> The issue to me is carving out some POS and not same TAZ that know the word.
>
> In NYC the only option is a reverse flow of sorts. We can't run and hide and
> hope for some kind of TAZ - temporary autonomous zone - to keep it real.
>
> Lets face the real situation on the ground - things that are not commercialized
> are being closed down week by week. And the future horizon hints at the types
> of commerical access being limited even more - less viable dance venues while
> other commercial venues are allowed to operate.
>
> The opposite is POS - permanent open zones. PS1 is an example in part. I won't
> name some others (3rd ward was one that was viable until harrassed by the NYPD)
> because I know the list is monitored and why call attention to details when not
> necessary.
>
> There is a bigger issue in your reply but I'll stop here for now.
> That bigger issue of course is where do you draw the line on adulthood.
>
> Creating this new greyzone of adulthood 18-21  was always a disaster waiting to
> happen - it is a falsehood a ruse well done during the 1980s in the early
> period of the drug war. Before then it was 18+ to drink and there was a
> consistent line for adulthood.
>
> So now here is what we might get - You can volunteer to go to Afganistan to
> defend NYC and get your arm blown off but if you can back to NYC you can't even
> go out to socialize in a dance club.  What kind of fucking sense does that
> make?
>
> Sad to say it makes perfect sense if you want to divide and discourage people
> from freely getting together.
>
> So why don't we ask what makes us stronger? What makes people 18 to 21
> stronger?
> What makes it possible to get support from each other?
>
>  seriously...
>   ralph/kaiors
>
> Quoting "D. Evan Mulvihill" <d.evan.mulvihill@gmail.com>:
>
> > When you have an 18+ club night in NYC, you have underage kids getting
> > really drunk and older parasites taking advantage of them. 18+ nights I've
> > been to are not about promoting a culture of dance... they're about rape.
> > What happens at sports bars? Maybe some underagers will get drunk but no
> > real harm is done. If there were a teeming dance culture that is supposedly
> > being oppressed, why isn't there any market for dance clubs where no alcohol
> > is served? Isn't alcohol more conducive to hump-dancing than the expressive
> > and creative dancing a "dance culture" would promote?
> >
> > On 5/17/07, Ed Hoc <meatsock@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dot 3- NYPD and NYC council members that want to ban 18-21 year olds from
> > > going
> > > to any dance club that sells alcohol
> > > Dot 4- NYPD and NYC council members saying its OK for 18-21 to go to a
> > > sports
> > > bar that sells alcohol
> > >
> > >
> > > you're an idiot if you're trying to make a connection here.
> > >
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Subject: [ne-raves] catching up on news - the disease in US Re: [ne-raves] vRave afraid

Yeah well I'm just catching up on lots of stuff on list mail and such.
So I have other reactions to add - but it's very simple really--

Yes we are being actively spied on in a more sophisticated and pervasive manner
and its being built in to the day to day communication infrastructure.

Yes people who are at all points on the political spectrum of left to right are
speaking up and fighting it and yes the mainstream media ignores, minimizes, or
discounts these concerns.

Bottom line we have one choice - give in to fear or choose to wake up and do a
few simple small things each week to make our situation better.

So I have focused on the local small scale issues in NYC since it affects many
of us on here directly and it's easier to see what's going on.

Again I would encourage people to read this site regularly
 onnyturf.com
it links yesterday to the full 600 page report of how NYPD spied on people
during Republican National Convention period  

Yes the U.S. - America - our home our society... us is suffering from a serious
disease - the best metaphor for this disease is not cancer no its something
more like an autoimmune disease.  Its when the body attacks and destroys itself
and cant recognize foreign bacteria or viruses or diseased tissue from the
body's own health tissue.

This process is what is systematically happening in America now - so any groups
and individuals that speak up to protest are targetted for surveillance 

see the story in today's NYTimes on the judge ordering release of NYPD spying
on
average citizens

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/17/nyregion/17convention.html?ei=5090&en=f77454235143f4ee&ex=1337054400&adxnnl=1&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&adxnnlx=1179410462-/quXr3lZRGj8m4/6wtkmFg
Judge Orders Police Department Files on Preconvention Surveillance Opened
By COLIN MOYNIHAN
Published: May 17, 2007

------------------------------------------------
Giving in to fear and giving up is no solution...
--------------------------------------------------

So today the the attack on privacy, freedom of speech and freedom of assembly
and association is spreading beyond behavior - it moves more clearly into the
area of what used to be called thought-crimes in the old sci-fi context and in
the real world of communisim back in the day.
But hey thats good that we're getting down to the essence of things now -
because it really is about controlling thought and culture and your own body.

That is the issue now and so its better to have crazy exaggerated things like
attacking a music CD designed for altering states of consciousness and making
the association to drugs..... because because it never was...

Yes because it never was about drugs anyway - it always was and is now about
controlling culture and individual behavior and choice.

So its easier to make it clear to more people just what is at stake.

And it becomes easier to connect the dots. 

Dot 1- attacking electronic music CDs of youth associated with a "high"
Dot 2- not attacking baby boomer new age CDs that do the same thing

Dot 3- NYPD and NYC council members that want to ban 18-21 year olds from going
to any dance club that sells alcohol
Dot 4- NYPD and NYC council members saying its OK for 18-21 to go to a sports
bar that sells alcohol

its simple really - they want to promote a culture around the sports clubs and
discourage a culture that forms around dancing. It could not be more obvious.

This is happening now people...

The first step is always waking up...
 peace
   ralph/kairos

Quoting Spurty <spurty_brown@yahoo.com>:

> Heh... having a conversation with myself. 
> 
> Some of you think the government namely this administration can't be bothered
> with dumb ravers because they have bigger fish to fry. And some of you belong
> to the tinfoil hat club. But people in high places with direct connections
> and first hand knowledge are starting to speak up about real concerns that
> everyone should be worried about no matter if you're a staunch conservative
> or liberal peacenik. Just thought I'd bring it up. The government... they
> want it all. 
> 
> An excerpt of Mark Klein speaking to Frontline about his discovery of the
> connection between AT&T and the National Security Agency (NSA)
> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/homefront/interviews/klein.html
> 
> "
> That's right. They have no way of sifting it out unless they look
> through it later. Now they can claim, "Oh, we are right as rain; we're
> only doing the legal thing and selecting out a few people that we're
> legally entitled to," but that's only after they get all the data. The
> analogy I use: If the government claims, "Well, when you do your taxes,
> why don't you just write me a blank check and we'll fill in the amount?
> Don't worry. We'll do it legal. We'll fill in the right amount," would
> you do that? Nobody would trust the government by writing a blank check
> to them. It's the same thing with the data we're giving them. ...
> 
> 
> 
> When the founders wrote the Fourth Amendment, they had a specific
> antagonism against what were called general warrants, as you might
> know. General warrants is when the British troops would come in with a
> warrant and say: "We have the right to search your house. We're looking
> for something. Looking for what? We can't tell you. We're going to
> ransack your house." That's a general warrant. They can turn your life
> upside down, and the colonialists [sic] hated that.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> So the Fourth Amendment specifically bans general warrants. It calls
> for specific warrants in which the things to be seized and the persons
> to be seized are specifically named. There's a reason for that. It's to
> protect against arbitrary government power. And what they've done is to
> trample over the Fourth Amendment by basically instituting a general
> warrant on the Internet.
> "
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Spurty <spurty_brown@yahoo.com>
> To: North East Raves <ne-raves@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 11:06:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Getting high from music?
> 
> Might want to take it easy on the discussion about the details of HOW you get
> high. Somewhere deep in the side of a remote and undisclosed mountain
> location there are super computers logging your names and statements in a
> dragnet of domestic surveillance. Now if Ashcroft was opposed to the first
> draft of this thing on his sick bed there must have been something incredibly
> wrong about it.
> 
> They¢ve Got Your Numberhttp://www.onthemedia.org/transcripts/2006/05/12/01
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: D. Evan Mulvihill <d.evan.mulvihill@gmail.com>
> To: North East Raves <ne-raves@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 10:47:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Getting high from music?
> 
> after you'd been up on meth for 5 days right?
> 
> On 5/16/07, Sridhar Ayengar <sridhar@ikickass.org> wrote:
> >
> > D. Evan Mulvihill wrote:
> > > "Music will never make you ... hallucinate," Dr. Kohan said.
> > > BULLSHIT!
> > >
> > > add in some dancing and some imagination and some closed eyes and
> > > yes, music will make you hallucinate.
> >
> >
> > Anything can make you hallucinate, if you're in the right frame of mind.
> >
> > Some of my weirdest hallucinations have come from lack of sleep.
> >
> > Peace...  Sridhar
> >
> 
> 
> 
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So Ed,
 what is the disconnect that you see?
 why don't you see how they are connected?
 or do you think it makes no difference if they are connected?
 or is this just another dis on what people say that is serious on here?

see the details below from I post I sent on here a couple of weeks ago.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Quoting Ed Hoc <meatsock@gmail.com>:

> Dot 3- NYPD and NYC council members that want to ban 18-21 year olds from
> going
> to any dance club that sells alcohol
> Dot 4- NYPD and NYC council members saying its OK for 18-21 to go to a
> sports
> bar that sells alcohol
>
>
> you're an idiot if you're trying to make a connection here.
------------------------------------------------------------------------

If you read carefully below the direct quotes from the NYC Nightlife Summit
report the NYPD favors limitng access to dance venues to anyone under 21. And
then "specifically, a “21 and over” law
should not affect certain alcohol-serving establishments such as restaurants,
sports venues, and sports bars."

OK so a minor correction is in order: the report does not say NYPD supported
that exception and maybe they pushed for a complete ban on under 21 access to
any venue.  I go on what I heard second hand.

Either way that is bad any way you look at it.
Maybe I don't udnerstand what you are really saying in your off-hand comment.

 for real...
  ralph/kairos

--------------------------------------------
the quote from previous post follows--
--------------------------------------------
For the electronic music scene/community - the most dangerous issue is the
expansion of the caberet laws and age restrictions - limited events to over 21
years of age.

The city council has tried to be quiet on this but it remains a serious real
threat that could be brought up at any time by Quinn, Vallone or others on the
council.  The NYPD is pushing for it and it is clearly a culturally biased
issue.  The official press office of NYC city council is clearly trying to be
quiet on this in recent press releases that celebrated the victory of
installing survelliance cameras in venues with cabert license.  

But the proposal to limit ages allowed in dance venues was a main section in
the report on the nightlife summit.  That report is entitled "Safer Nights,
safer City" and was issued on December 28, 2006. see this URL
http://www.nyccouncil.info/pdf_files/reports/nightlife_summit_report_fin.pdf

Here is the quote from the critical section:
[start quote]
a.(2). Age of Admittance
A second primary focus of the panelists’ discussion was whether to raise the
age of admittance into clubs and bars. Currently, 16 year-olds are permitted to
enter these establishments. Council Member Katz said she planned to introduce
legislation to increase the age of admittance to 18. Some nightlife
representatives said that they would like to ban anyone under the age of 21
from entering clubs, but they allow those 18 and over to enter on certain
nights because other clubs do, creating competitive pressure.

************** I would place emphasis on the next statement *********

Certain nightlife representatives said they are open to changing the law to 21
and over, but only in appropriate cases; specifically, a “21 and over” law
should not affect certain alcohol-serving establishments such as restaurants,
sports venues, and sports bars.

Nightlife also described certain steps taken to make sure that 18, 19, and 20
year-olds are not served alcohol. Some owners use indelible ink to mark the
hands of persons under 21, and give wristbands to those 21 and over. Clubs also
require bartenders to check hands and wristbands each time a drink is ordered,
and instruct bartenders to serve only one drink per person. Finally, different
colored cups can be used for liquor and soda.

Even with these precautions, club owners reported that they still receive
violations for underage drinking, which illustrates how difficult it is to
prevent people from drinking once they are inside the club. Law enforcement
agreed with the idea of raising the entrance age to 21, and noted the
aggressive marketing strategies clubs use to encourage underage attendees.
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Subject: [ne-raves] the disconnect or the dis Re: [ne-raves] 2nd try - the disease in US 

So Ed,
 what is the disconnect that you see?
 why don't you see how they are connected?
 or do you think it makes no difference if they are connected?
 or is this just another dis on what people say that is serious on here?

see the details below from I post I sent on here a couple of weeks ago.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Quoting Ed Hoc <meatsock@gmail.com>:

> Dot 3- NYPD and NYC council members that want to ban 18-21 year olds from
> going
> to any dance club that sells alcohol
> Dot 4- NYPD and NYC council members saying its OK for 18-21 to go to a
> sports
> bar that sells alcohol
> 
> 
> you're an idiot if you're trying to make a connection here.
------------------------------------------------------------------------

If you read carefully below the direct quotes from the NYC Nightlife Summit
report the NYPD favors limitng access to dance venues to anyone under 21. And
then "specifically, a “21 and over” law
should not affect certain alcohol-serving establishments such as restaurants,
sports venues, and sports bars."

OK so a minor correction is in order: the report does not say NYPD supported
that exception and maybe they pushed for a complete ban on under 21 access to
any venue.  I go on what I heard second hand.

Either way that is bad any way you look at it.
Maybe I don't udnerstand what you are really saying in your off-hand comment.

 for real...
  ralph/kairos

--------------------------------------------
the quote from previous post follows--
--------------------------------------------
For the electronic music scene/community - the most dangerous issue is the
expansion of the caberet laws and age restrictions - limited events to over 21
years of age.

The city council has tried to be quiet on this but it remains a serious real
threat that could be brought up at any time by Quinn, Vallone or others on the
council.  The NYPD is pushing for it and it is clearly a culturally biased
issue.  The official press office of NYC city council is clearly trying to be
quiet on this in recent press releases that celebrated the victory of
installing survelliance cameras in venues with cabert license.  

But the proposal to limit ages allowed in dance venues was a main section in
the report on the nightlife summit.  That report is entitled "Safer Nights,
safer City" and was issued on December 28, 2006. see this URL
http://www.nyccouncil.info/pdf_files/reports/nightlife_summit_report_fin.pdf

Here is the quote from the critical section:
[start quote]
a.(2). Age of Admittance
A second primary focus of the panelists’ discussion was whether to raise the
age of admittance into clubs and bars. Currently, 16 year-olds are permitted to
enter these establishments. Council Member Katz said she planned to introduce
legislation to increase the age of admittance to 18. Some nightlife
representatives said that they would like to ban anyone under the age of 21
from entering clubs, but they allow those 18 and over to enter on certain
nights because other clubs do, creating competitive pressure.

************** I would place emphasis on the next statement *********

Certain nightlife representatives said they are open to changing the law to 21
and over, but only in appropriate cases; specifically, a “21 and over” law
should not affect certain alcohol-serving establishments such as restaurants,
sports venues, and sports bars.

Nightlife also described certain steps taken to make sure that 18, 19, and 20
year-olds are not served alcohol. Some owners use indelible ink to mark the
hands of persons under 21, and give wristbands to those 21 and over. Clubs also
require bartenders to check hands and wristbands each time a drink is ordered,
and instruct bartenders to serve only one drink per person. Finally, different
colored cups can be used for liquor and soda.

Even with these precautions, club owners reported that they still receive
violations for underage drinking, which illustrates how difficult it is to
prevent people from drinking once they are inside the club. Law enforcement
agreed with the idea of raising the entrance age to 21, and noted the
aggressive marketing strategies clubs use to encourage underage attendees.
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Subject: [ne-raves] how far we have fallen Re: [ne-raves] 2nd try - the disease in US 

To start, I'm glad you are posting a serious reply.

Saddly I'd have to say your response is not uncommon around NYC but I still
think it is mistaken and dangerous.
And drifts in the end to the other post today about banning music CDs that
purport to bring on an altered state simply by listening to the music.

Or to put it another way and to be quite blunt: I'd say your response shows how
you have the repressive cop inside your head already.

For real people, I have gone to some of the clubs and warehouse events in
Brooklyn or PS1 or quite a few things that have some alcohol but its not the
focus.  So really I think you are giving in to the worst stereotypes of the
mega clubs in the city. I'm not defending them.
I am saying this - that people who want to restrict dance music culture and
restrict freedom to associate with your own social group use these stereotypes
in the worst way. They become mental magnets that disrupt clear thinking.
The worst thing is when people in dance music let that mental magnet take hold.

But its only a small piece of the puzzle - the other actual forces at work are
the city policies (the new noise code, zoning, caberet laws, housing policy,
community board rules, etc. etc.) that make it almost impossible to have
reliable venues that can support themselves economically and host dance music
events without relying on alcohol sales.

In this we need to compare NYC to other cities. I can only speak now from
experience going back several years (since I have been back in NY area for four
years now). Seattle was very different - there were many many more
opportunities for easy regular dance music events at night and during the day. 
And there was a stronger sense of "the dance music community".

I put that in quotes to call attention to a danger - I am not talking
abstractions.  I am talking day to day ways people support each other and
identify with a culture too.

Recent example - Jason Blackkat at the end of May Day a couple weeks back asked
for donations for a speaker that blew out during the event. I went up to him
and gave some money. I doubt other people did.  If the same thing happened in
Seattle more people would have donated.
Why? Simple - because many many more times the people who turn out for events
would see each other at those same events and feel connected to the people
breaking their backs to put on the events.

Really in NYC its not that way. It can be different. It is not hard to start
changing one thing that holds us back - one thing at a time. 

There are other events that do not have alcohol as a part and there are some
where it helps with the money-side but its not a focus of the event or the
environment. Really alcohol is not the issue.

The issue to me is carving out some POS and not same TAZ that know the word.

In NYC the only option is a reverse flow of sorts. We can't run and hide and
hope for some kind of TAZ - temporary autonomous zone - to keep it real.

Lets face the real situation on the ground - things that are not commercialized
are being closed down week by week. And the future horizon hints at the types
of commerical access being limited even more - less viable dance venues while
other commercial venues are allowed to operate. 

The opposite is POS - permanent open zones. PS1 is an example in part. I won't
name some others (3rd ward was one that was viable until harrassed by the NYPD)
because I know the list is monitored and why call attention to details when not
necessary.

There is a bigger issue in your reply but I'll stop here for now.
That bigger issue of course is where do you draw the line on adulthood.

Creating this new greyzone of adulthood 18-21  was always a disaster waiting to
happen - it is a falsehood a ruse well done during the 1980s in the early
period of the drug war. Before then it was 18+ to drink and there was a
consistent line for adulthood.

So now here is what we might get - You can volunteer to go to Afganistan to
defend NYC and get your arm blown off but if you can back to NYC you can't even
go out to socialize in a dance club.  What kind of fucking sense does that
make?

Sad to say it makes perfect sense if you want to divide and discourage people
from freely getting together.

So why don't we ask what makes us stronger? What makes people 18 to 21 stronger?
What makes it possible to get support from each other?
 
 seriously...
  ralph/kaiors

Quoting "D. Evan Mulvihill" <d.evan.mulvihill@gmail.com>:

> When you have an 18+ club night in NYC, you have underage kids getting
> really drunk and older parasites taking advantage of them. 18+ nights I've
> been to are not about promoting a culture of dance... they're about rape.
> What happens at sports bars? Maybe some underagers will get drunk but no
> real harm is done. If there were a teeming dance culture that is supposedly
> being oppressed, why isn't there any market for dance clubs where no alcohol
> is served? Isn't alcohol more conducive to hump-dancing than the expressive
> and creative dancing a "dance culture" would promote?
> 
> On 5/17/07, Ed Hoc <meatsock@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Dot 3- NYPD and NYC council members that want to ban 18-21 year olds from
> > going
> > to any dance club that sells alcohol
> > Dot 4- NYPD and NYC council members saying its OK for 18-21 to go to a
> > sports
> > bar that sells alcohol
> >
> >
> > you're an idiot if you're trying to make a connection here.
> >

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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] 2nd try - the disease in US Re: [ne-raves] vRave afraid

>>>so we should make the laws based on what happens at a particular =

event based on what music is being presented?

>>>i'm sure no one does anything illegal that law enforcement would =

like to curb at techno events.  18-20 year olds never drink/do drugs =

and drive home from techno events, and are therefore not a threat to =

anyone.

>>>deknow

-- "technogirl (doojee.com)" <technogirl@doojee.com> wrote:
rape, shootings etc is mostly rap and rock stuff related
i have never seen anything like that going on at techno clubs
other then the roofie thing in florida years back
infact we have put on 16 events in the last 18 months in nyc
and never had any violence or trouble at our partys
(and we do have a healthy mix betw all ages)




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Subject: [ne-raves] NYC this Saturday! - KODE 9, SHACKLETON, BADAWI, JOE NICE - Dub War @ LOVE

NY's premier dubstep party returns this Saturday featuring Kode 9 from
the UK....

Saturday, May 19 2007 in NYC...

DUB WAR RIDS THE WORLD OF THE EVIL CURSE OF THE HYPERDUB VIRUS

This will be the official after party for the Remix Hotel NYC/Shocklee
Innertainment Panel Series. First 50 badgeholders FREE before
midnight.
More info:
http://www.remixhotel.com/nyc
http://www.shocklee.com

featuring:
KODE 9 (Hyperdub, UK)
Live set + DJ set

SHACKLETON (Skull Disco, UK)
First and last time ever in North America so don't front

BADAWI (ROIR, Agriculture NYC)
feat Seraphim (MC)
Original NYC dub soldier debuting original dubstep material

+ you know who it is...
JOE NICE (Dub War, Gourmetbeats, Baltimore)
DAVE Q (Dub War, NYC)
SECRET AGENT GEL (Dub War, NYC)
ORSON (Version, Germany)
SECKLE (Dub War, NYC)
+ MC JUAKALI (Dub War, Sub Swara NYC)

9pm - 6am
LOVE, 179 MacDougal St at 8th St
21+ (bring id)
$5 before 10pm / $10 before midnight / $15 after

+ CD + vinyl giveaways from Breakbeat Science, ROIR, and Dub War

+ $4 "Soggy Galoshes" all night (spiced rum, fresh lime, ginger ale)

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Subject: [ne-raves] Re: the disconnect or the dis Re: [ne-raves] 2nd try - the disease in US

sports bars are connected directly to a business that affects nyc; i.e. sports.

rave clubs have no redeeming features to a policy maker. the fact of
the matter is that 'the right to go out to a dark club, get fucked up
and act retarded' isn't something anyone will vote for -- remember,
the people who would vote for this, generally skip voting at all.

you're looking for a conspiracy that really isn't there.

On 5/17/07, keymaker@publicspaceforall.com
<keymaker@publicspaceforall.com> wrote:
> So Ed,
>  what is the disconnect that you see?
>  why don't you see how they are connected?
>  or do you think it makes no difference if they are connected?
>  or is this just another dis on what people say that is serious on here?
>
> see the details below from I post I sent on here a couple of weeks ago.
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Quoting Ed Hoc <meatsock@gmail.com>:
>
> > Dot 3- NYPD and NYC council members that want to ban 18-21 year olds from
> > going
> > to any dance club that sells alcohol
> > Dot 4- NYPD and NYC council members saying its OK for 18-21 to go to a
> > sports
> > bar that sells alcohol
> >
> >
> > you're an idiot if you're trying to make a connection here.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> If you read carefully below the direct quotes from the NYC Nightlife Summit
> report the NYPD favors limitng access to dance venues to anyone under 21. And
> then "specifically, a "21 and over" law
> should not affect certain alcohol-serving establishments such as restaurants,
> sports venues, and sports bars."
>
> OK so a minor correction is in order: the report does not say NYPD supported
> that exception and maybe they pushed for a complete ban on under 21 access to
> any venue.  I go on what I heard second hand.
>
> Either way that is bad any way you look at it.
> Maybe I don't udnerstand what you are really saying in your off-hand comment.
>
>  for real...
>   ralph/kairos
>
> --------------------------------------------
> the quote from previous post follows--
> --------------------------------------------
> For the electronic music scene/community - the most dangerous issue is the
> expansion of the caberet laws and age restrictions - limited events to over 21
> years of age.
>
> The city council has tried to be quiet on this but it remains a serious real
> threat that could be brought up at any time by Quinn, Vallone or others on the
> council.  The NYPD is pushing for it and it is clearly a culturally biased
> issue.  The official press office of NYC city council is clearly trying to be
> quiet on this in recent press releases that celebrated the victory of
> installing survelliance cameras in venues with cabert license.
>
> But the proposal to limit ages allowed in dance venues was a main section in
> the report on the nightlife summit.  That report is entitled "Safer Nights,
> safer City" and was issued on December 28, 2006. see this URL
> http://www.nyccouncil.info/pdf_files/reports/nightlife_summit_report_fin.pdf
>
> Here is the quote from the critical section:
> [start quote]
> a.(2). Age of Admittance
> A second primary focus of the panelists' discussion was whether to raise the
> age of admittance into clubs and bars. Currently, 16 year-olds are permitted to
> enter these establishments. Council Member Katz said she planned to introduce
> legislation to increase the age of admittance to 18. Some nightlife
> representatives said that they would like to ban anyone under the age of 21
> from entering clubs, but they allow those 18 and over to enter on certain
> nights because other clubs do, creating competitive pressure.
>
> ************** I would place emphasis on the next statement *********
>
> Certain nightlife representatives said they are open to changing the law to 21
> and over, but only in appropriate cases; specifically, a "21 and over" law
> should not affect certain alcohol-serving establishments such as restaurants,
> sports venues, and sports bars.
>
> Nightlife also described certain steps taken to make sure that 18, 19, and 20
> year-olds are not served alcohol. Some owners use indelible ink to mark the
> hands of persons under 21, and give wristbands to those 21 and over. Clubs also
> require bartenders to check hands and wristbands each time a drink is ordered,
> and instruct bartenders to serve only one drink per person. Finally, different
> colored cups can be used for liquor and soda.
>
> Even with these precautions, club owners reported that they still receive
> violations for underage drinking, which illustrates how difficult it is to
> prevent people from drinking once they are inside the club. Law enforcement
> agreed with the idea of raising the entrance age to 21, and noted the
> aggressive marketing strategies clubs use to encourage underage attendees.
> [end quote]
>
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anti-music workshop
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Subject: [ne-raves] NYC - Fw: Green Velvet @ Sullivan Room - Thurs. 5.31


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                                                                      Flawless Media welcomes legendary Chicago recording artist

                           Green Velvet to the newly renovated Sullivan Room.  Curtis Jones (AKA

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                           "LaLaLand," and "Shake and Pop".  The Relief Recordings founder,

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http://grep-fu.net/jungle/celtichop.mp3

this features a squeaking chair someone kindly left in Studio C at WHUS, a
fiddle sample stolen from WHUS, some really old feedback from my ER-1. the
grunt/what? in this track is snacky of snackyonline.net oh, and i guess some
samples of drummers! it has some really twisty high-frequency stuff which i
used to find only in screetching filters. wierd how chosing samples with
interesting characteristics is way more relevant than polishing their tone.

i never did take that cowbell solo out.

http://grep-fu.net/jungle/gunfightamen.mp3

here's a re-use of the amen sample with a totally improbable bassline. if
there is a player out there who can play these slides, get in touch. the
vocals on this were provided by helena, and can be heard in
http://grep-fu.net/whus/snacky2.mp3 as the chorus.

http://grep-fu.net/jungle/wallycore.mp3

horribly named, featuring both penisology and snacky samples, as well as the
re-emergence of my over-reliance on tweakbench.com's toad plugin.

http://grep-fu.net/jungle/homemovies-draft.mp3
http://grep-fu.net/gabber/walterperry-acid.mp3
http://grep-fu.net/gabber/walterperry.mp3

here's two files made with a lot of samples ripped off home movies DVDs and
bonus discs. i even sent these actual files to brenden small's actual
myspace account, with a specific request for a cease and desist letter.
results pending. one is gabber and one is jungle, but you'll have to guess
which is which.

http://grep-fu.net/noise/somethingxclever.mp3

courtesy of gmail username callmebibble, this one is a bass heartbeat over
unrequested frenetic pitch bends.

http://grep-fu.net/acid/gunbattle-2.mp3
http://grep-fu.net/acid/not-amen-05-04-07.mp3
http://grep-fu.net/acid/breaks-acid-130-05-18-07.mp3
http://grep-fu.net/acid/jumpyacid.mp3

these are all breaks or 4/4 and are for the most part rather stripped down
basic 909 sounds with a monosynth or two. meatsock heavy industries is now
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Thursday, May 24th, 2007 
HEAVY PRESSURE and RESIST bring you...

LURKERY 
  DUBSTEP Debuts @ SULLIVAN ROOM 

Featuring:

PINCH (Tectonic, Subloaded, UK) *NYC Debut*

DISTANCE (Planet Mu, Rinse FM, UK) *NYC Debut*

MOLDY (Heavy Pressure, Konkrete Jungle, Maine) 

GRAPES (Heavy Pressure, Boston)

VENEZ (Resist, NYC) *LIVE*


$15 All Night
  Doors open 10pm - 4am

Sullivan Room
218 Sullivan St (Between Bleeker & W 3rd St., West Village) 
New York, NY 
http://www.sullivanroom.com 

This is a quality venue with a bangin' new sound system.

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-I think this did not get through yesterday because I forwarded it with an
attachment so hopefully it gets through this time..
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Well before I try replying to the previous threads and I'll get back to it
tomorrow here is something more fun and making things happen rather than
reacting to them.

I am forwarding info on the Warper event Wednesday.

Best of it is Peter Kirn will do a workshop on sensors and making music.
I'm more excited about using sensors in reacting to music as a dancer and then
having that feeback go to a live dj and vj rig - well details later.
But check out posts from Peter on using the Wii controller

Free Mac Looper for Wii Controller, Wii MIDI Hacking Round-up
http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/03/20/free-mac-looper-for-wii-controller-wii-midi-hacking-round-up/#more-1954

Wii as Lightsaber: More Kyma-Synthesized Goodness, But the Original was Cheaper
http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/04/10/wii-as-lightsaber-more-wii-kyma-synthesized-goodness-but-the-original-was-c
heaper/#more-2013

Expressive Wii: Open Sound Control - MIDI - Wii - Kyma on Mac
http://createdigitalmusic.com/index.php?s=Wii

And oh yeah the giveaway his is doing for his blog readers
http://createdigitalmusic.com/giveaway/
 this stuff and more

MPC500 	Akai’s MPC500 

Live 6 	Ableton Live 6

Alesis’ ControlPad

Glyph hard drive 	Glyph’s GT 050Q 

FreqBox 	Moog Music’s Moogerfooger FreqBox 

Absynth 	Native Instruments’ Absynth 4

Native Instruments’ Elektrik Piano 

Total Control 	Numark’s Total Control 

PreSonus’ FaderPort

Alright then try your luck or skill in the giveaway

and more later too on the first nyc dance parade
google it and enjoy
  ralph/kairos 

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Dj Shakey and Moldover present
the monthly party:

WARPER
2 Floors of Omnidigital DJs and Biomorphic Musicians!

Live Music from 8pm sharp 12+ electronic music performers
Projected Images from Full - Stealth and guests

9:30 pm FREE Workshop from<http://createdigitalmusic.com> Peter Kirn

Control Further Out: Sensors and Alternative Inputs:

Wave your hand in the air, build your own music gear, make sounds with
barcode scanners and webcams, or measure how cold your beer is. Back from
the Maker Faire in California, Peter Kirn (createdigitalmusic.com, Make
Magazine) shows how you can control live sound and visuals without the usual
keyboards, faders, knobs, and buttons. This is a beginner overview, so
everybody's welcome.


WEDNESDAY, May 23rd
8pm - 2am + free
at <http://www.thedelancey.com>The Delancey
168 Delancey (betw. Clinton and Attorney)
212-254-9920

<http://www.warperparty.com>WARPER website
<http://www.myspace.com/warperparty>MYSPACE



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This is a recording of all the sets on the Septik Nexus/Blackkat soundrig in the
parade.  It's raw as hell since we had turntables on a flatbed truck.  The guys
did the best they could to rig it but, even with all that, there was still a
lot of wobbling and needle jumping and sliding.  But, it's fun.  This was loud
as hell and traveled on the street from about 32 street and 5th Ave, snaked
around Union Square Park, and then headed down to Washington Square PArk which
was the end of the route.  The sets played on the rig were Free Tekno,
Hardcore, Breakcore and Hard Acid.  It's about 78 minutes worth of recording.
I missed a bit of the beginning sets being played because I fucked up my feet
on friday morning and had to hobble over to the thing on crutches.  Made trying
to spin on a bouncey flatbed truck all that more fun. ;)  Here's the link:

http://www.acidgrave.com/blackkat-Dance_Parade_2007.mp3

00:00 - 23:00 = Madaro
23:00 - 39:05 = Low-Key
39:05 - 65:35 = Amok
65:35 - 78:00 = Driver

My shakey setlist:
Public Enemy - Lost at Birth
Hardcoholics - Gun Fight
Androgyn Network - Punk Box Machine
Hellfish - Hardcore Body Harvest
Tocsin & Amok - Neverspank
Speedfreak - The Same Muthafucka
DOA - Brooklyn Mob

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my first video attempt so this is *so* not professional, but i thot it
might be something fun for POTD fans ... (my husband helped me :) ...

the footage was done in april (big up the chinatown bus! :) and may and it
took forever trying to figure out how to upload it onto youtube and my
husband finally broke thru for me last nite.  :)

POTD at fluid in philly tomorrow night (platinum smashdown redux!) so
represent!  i'm driving up and have new POTD logo buttons to hand out!  :)

and AK1200 had awesome POTD stickers for handing out at sonar in baltimore
last week so keep an eye out for those!

respectfully,
mary  :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIKezbGCrD4

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Well before I try replying to the previous threads and I'll get back to it
tomorrow here is something more fun and making things happen rather than
reacting to them.

I am forwarding info on the Warper event Wednesday.

Best of it is Peter Kirn will do a workshop on sensors and making music.
I'm more excited about using sensors in reacting to music as a dancer and then
having that feeback go to a live dj and vj rig - well details later.
But check out posts from Peter on using the Wii controller

Free Mac Looper for Wii Controller, Wii MIDI Hacking Round-up
http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/03/20/free-mac-looper-for-wii-controller-wii-midi-hacking-round-up/#more-1954

Wii as Lightsaber: More Kyma-Synthesized Goodness, But the Original was Cheaper
http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/04/10/wii-as-lightsaber-more-wii-kyma-synthesized-goodness-but-the-original-was-c
heaper/#more-2013

Expressive Wii: Open Sound Control - MIDI - Wii - Kyma on Mac
http://createdigitalmusic.com/index.php?s=Wii

And oh yeah the giveaway his is doing for his blog readers
http://createdigitalmusic.com/giveaway/
 this stuff and more

MPC500 	Akai’s MPC500 

Live 6 	Ableton Live 6

Alesis’ ControlPad

Glyph hard drive 	Glyph’s GT 050Q 

FreqBox 	Moog Music’s Moogerfooger FreqBox 

Absynth 	Native Instruments’ Absynth 4

Native Instruments’ Elektrik Piano 

Total Control 	Numark’s Total Control 

PreSonus’ FaderPort

Alright then try your luck or skill in the giveaway

and more later too on the first nyc dance parade
google it and enjoy
  ralph/kairos 

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Dj Shakey and Moldover present
the monthly party:

WARPER
2 Floors of Omnidigital DJs and Biomorphic Musicians!

Live Music from 8pm sharp 12+ electronic music performers
Projected Images from Full - Stealth and guests

9:30 pm FREE Workshop from<http://createdigitalmusic.com> Peter Kirn

Control Further Out: Sensors and Alternative Inputs:

Wave your hand in the air, build your own music gear, make sounds with
barcode scanners and webcams, or measure how cold your beer is. Back from
the Maker Faire in California, Peter Kirn (createdigitalmusic.com, Make
Magazine) shows how you can control live sound and visuals without the usual
keyboards, faders, knobs, and buttons. This is a beginner overview, so
everybody's welcome.


WEDNESDAY, May 23rd
8pm - 2am + free
at <http://www.thedelancey.com>The Delancey
168 Delancey (betw. Clinton and Attorney)
212-254-9920

<http://www.warperparty.com>WARPER website
<http://www.myspace.com/warperparty>MYSPACE


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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Fwd: Dance PArade NYC 5/19/07 - MP3 [Septik Nexus/Blackkat]

awesome man will be sure to dl.

I didnt get to see the parade itself, but caught most
of the afterparty in washington sq park.  Had alot of
fun, though I was a bit disappointed with Herc.  Who
went on after him?

Oh and the Soulful Deep House dance troupe was
hand-raisingly awesome ;)  Had to put down the
umbrella to clap

frank

--- lowkey@acidgrave.com wrote:

> 
> This is a recording of all the sets on the Septik
> Nexus/Blackkat soundrig in the
> parade.  It's raw as hell since we had turntables on
> a flatbed truck.  The guys
> did the best they could to rig it but, even with all
> that, there was still a
> lot of wobbling and needle jumping and sliding. 
> But, it's fun.  This was loud
> as hell and traveled on the street from about 32
> street and 5th Ave, snaked
> around Union Square Park, and then headed down to
> Washington Square PArk which
> was the end of the route.  The sets played on the
> rig were Free Tekno,
> Hardcore, Breakcore and Hard Acid.  It's about 78
> minutes worth of recording.
> I missed a bit of the beginning sets being played
> because I fucked up my feet
> on friday morning and had to hobble over to the
> thing on crutches.  Made trying
> to spin on a bouncey flatbed truck all that more
> fun. ;)  Here's the link:
> 
>
http://www.acidgrave.com/blackkat-Dance_Parade_2007.mp3
> 
> 00:00 - 23:00 = Madaro
> 23:00 - 39:05 = Low-Key
> 39:05 - 65:35 = Amok
> 65:35 - 78:00 = Driver
> 
> My shakey setlist:
> Public Enemy - Lost at Birth
> Hardcoholics - Gun Fight
> Androgyn Network - Punk Box Machine
> Hellfish - Hardcore Body Harvest
> Tocsin & Amok - Neverspank
> Speedfreak - The Same Muthafucka
> DOA - Brooklyn Mob
> 
> -- 
> Low-Key [DeTocs]
> http://www.myspace.com/lowkey75
> 
> 
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Subject: [ne-raves] NYC: baby ford & zip and alexander robotnik / mathew jonson LIVE! 
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Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 17:15:48 -0400
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thanks so much for all who came last saturday!

it's only going to get better as we learn to start on time and work
out the kinks.
let's get right to this week's fun-stivities...

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FRIDAY May 25, 2007

REBEL presents
SUBSTANCE

DEMF KICK-OFF PARTY

Main Floor (Downstairs):
Baby Ford and Zip (Perlon) (4 Hour DJ Set)
Opening set by Camea (Clink)

Downstairs Side Room:
Plexus (Minus)
Alka Rex (Musique Risquee)
Nicolas Sauser (Microcosm)

Main Floor (Upstairs):
Alexander Robotnick (Fuzz Dance)
Marcos Cabral (Trapez)
Justin Carter and Probus (Hello Nurse)

Upstairs Side Room:
Supervixen (Machine Punk)
Japanster (Paris)
Stadenco (Housework)

Hosted by: Function, Chase, Sheal, Dan Orestes, Joe, Yell, Ryan
Thrift, & Clarissa

REBEL
251 West 30th Street
btw 7th & 8th Avenues
1/9 to 28th St. or ANYTHING to Penn Station

Open Bar from 10-11
$4 SV Vodka Until Midnight

Limited $10 presales available at www.rebelnyc.com
$15 w/ rsvp to addict@enablernetwork.org / $20 at door

10pm until Late

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WEDNESDAY May 30, 2007

REBEL presents
((PHONO))

Main Floor (Downstairs):
Mathew Jonson - LIVE - (Wagon Repair/M_nus, Vancouver)
Plexus (M_nus)
Derek Plaslaiko (Bunker)

Downstairs Side Room:
Spinoza (Bunker)
Taimur Agha (Blkmarket Membership)
Function (Phono)

REBEL
251 West 30th Street
btw 7th & 8th Avenues
1/9 to 28th St. or ANYTHING to Penn Station

Open Bar from 10-11
$4 SV Vodka Until Midnight

$5 with rsvp to addict@enablernetwork.org / $10 at door

10pm until Late

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Subject: [ne-raves] NYC - Fw: SULLIVAN ROOM: (Fri) KING BRITT | (Sat) THE SCUMFROG

A little taste of Philly and DC for NYC. Who the heck is Sweet & Salty? Sounds like an Asian preserved fruit. I'm so out of the loop.

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Subject: [ne-raves] NYC - Fw: [nyeaf] Artist Talks This Saturday 4-6pm

----- Forwarded Message ----=0AFrom: Harvestworks <news@harvestworks.org>=
=0ASent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 10:33:09 AM=0A=0ADigital Artists Talk about=
 Their Work at=0AThe New York Electronic Art Festival=0A=0ANYEAF's premiere=
 event, AudioVisual: A New Generation of Installation Artists, focuses on e=
ight digital artists who explore the poetics of sound and image/light throu=
gh electronic media.=0A=0ANew York, May 21, 2007 - Artists Rashaad Newsome,=
 Olen Hsu, and Phoenix Perry will talk about the ideas and technical proces=
ses informing their works on view in NYEAF's premiere event, Audio/Visual: =
A New Generation of Installation Artists. This is a unique opportunity to g=
et in-depth insights into the ground-breaking work of three prominent young=
 digital artists.=0A=0AWHAT:    The New York Electronic Art Festival -- Art=
ist Talks=0A=0AWHEN:    Saturday, May 26, 4 - 6 pm:=0ARashaad Newsome, Olen=
 Hsu, and Phoenix Perry.=0A=0AWHERE:    LMCC Swing Space at 38 Park Row =AC=
-- FREE=0A=0A=0AAbout the Artists=0ARashaad Newsome's The Conductor is a 2:=
31 min. digital video loop made up of footage from various hip-hop videos, =
digitally enhanced and re-edited to track the motion of the hands of the ar=
tists. The audio consists of sounds extracted from top 10 hip-hop songs and=
 reassembled to make the quintessential hip-hop track. The track is then wo=
ven in and out of Carl Orff's Carmina Burana.  Rashaad Newsome studied film=
 and video in New York where he currently lives. His work integrates photog=
raphy, sound, performance, and video to explore and question prevailing med=
ia representations of black culture in North America.=0A=0AOlen Hsu's sculp=
ture and sound installation Drift (II) (2007) charts the prehistory of the =
digital network, situating itself in the era of the gramophone. Hsu's delic=
ate apparatus emits a sound composition created with numerical oceanographi=
c data of the past two hundred years.=0AOlen Hsu constructs installations i=
n porcelain, paper and algorithmically composed sound, converging new media=
, tactile forms, and acoustic musical instruments. Hsu holds degrees in mus=
ic, art history, ceramics, and sculpture from Yale University, the Kansas C=
ity Art Institute, and The School of the Art Institute of Chicago.=0A=0APho=
enix Perry's Honey is an interactive game exploring issues of survival and =
the environment.  This powerful game demonstrates even the smallest creatur=
es' vital importance to their ecosystem as they struggle to survive in a un=
ique, fantasy-world.=0APhoenix Perry's creative media include, installation=
, video, live performance, sculpture, sound, and painting. Her works have b=
een screened at Lincoln Center, NYC, the Santa Fe Art Institute, the Austin=
 Museum of Digital Art, and the Yerba Buena Center for the Arts. She curren=
tly lives in Brooklyn, New York.=0A=0AAbout AudioVisual: A New Generation o=
f Installation Artists=0ANYEAF's premiere event focuses on eight digital ar=
tists who explore the poetics of sound and image/light through electronic m=
edia.  On view from May 12th through June 2nd, Tuesday to Saturday, noon to=
 6 PM, at LMCC's Swing Space at 38 Park Row.  This event is free and is mad=
e possible by Swing Space, a program of Lower Manhattan Cultural Council, g=
enerously supported by the September 11th Fund. Space donated by Silverstei=
n Properties. For more information, please visit: www.NYEAF.org=0A=0AAbout =
NYEAF=0AThe New York Electronic Art Festival is produced by Harvestworks, t=
he New York University Music Technology Program, and LEMUR: League of Elect=
ronic Musical Urban Robots, with support from New York University's Interac=
tive Telecommunications Program, Eyebeam Art and Technology Center, the Col=
umbia University Computer Music Center, Roulette, Electronic Music Foundati=
on, 3LD Art and Technology Center, Lower Manhattan Cultural Council, and th=
e Institute of Electronic Art. Additional support is from the National Endo=
wment for the Arts, the New York State Council on the Arts, the Mary Flagle=
r Cary Charitable Trust, mediaThe foundation, the Lower Manhattan Cultural =
Council's Swing Space @ 38 Park Row, the Experimental TV Center Presentatio=
n Program, Cycling 74, Tekserve and Newmark Knight Frank. Lower Manhattan C=
ultural Council's Swing Space Program is made possible by the support of th=
e September 11th Fund. Space generously donated by Time Equities.=0A=0ANYEA=
F is a Harvestworks 30th Anniversary Event.  A highlight of the festival is=
 the 2007 International Conference on New Interfaces for Musical Expression=
 (NIME 2007), now in its 7th year, convening for the first time in New York=
.=0A=0A"Harvestworks brings together innovative practitioners from all bran=
ches of the digital arts and makes them available to artists, curators, and=
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LMCC):=0ALower Manhattan Cultural Council is the leading voice for arts and=
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rams. Lower Manhattan Cultural Council's Swing Space Program is made possib=
le by the support of the September 11th Fund. Space generously donated by T=
ime Equities.   www.lmcc.net/=0A=0A# # #=0A=0A=0A__________________________=
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erformance Arts, JP=0AMorgan Chase Foundation and the Rodney White Foundati=
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Subject: [ne-raves] NYC - Fw: [live] Ableton Live User Group at Harvestworks June 5

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Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 1:53:24 PM

Dear friends,

we are happy to announce that Ableton Live's next User group will actually meet at Harvestworks.

NEXT TUESDAY, June 5th, 7-9 pm

Harevstworks
596 Broadway (SoHo)
# 602
NY, NY 10012
Tel: 212-431-1130
www.harvestworks.org

By popular request, this user group will be geared primarily for ADVANCED users.  Dennis DeSantis will spend the first 30 minutes covering the basics of Live's workflow and concepts, and will then get to the topics that were originally planned for the last meeting at Tekserve including:

 - MIDI controlling Racks to instantly remix audio on the fly
 - sound design, compositional and mixing tools using Racks
 - building multiband effects devices
 - building MIDI randomizers

Dennis DeSantis is Ableton's Head of Documentation and works as a composer and sound designer. He received a Doctor of Musical Arts degree from the Eastman School of Music. His electronic music appears on labels such as Global Underground, Cocoon and Kanzleramt, and he has performed throughout North America, Europe and Japan.

Dennis is also a percussionist and technical director for Alarm Will Sound, a leading contemporary music ensemble based in New York. His concert music is widely performed, and recent highlights include a 2007 Carnegie Hall commission to arrange the music of Autechre for chamber orchestra.

www.ableton.com

_______________________________________________________________________
Harvestworks is a nonprofit Digital Media Arts Center that provides
resources for artists to learn digital tools and exhibit experimental
work created with digital technologies.  Our programs are made possible
with funds from mediaThe foundation, New York State Council on the
Arts, the National Endowment for the Arts, the NYC Dept. of Cultural
Affairs, Materials for the Arts, The Experimental TV Center, the Mary
Flagler Cary Trust, the Aaron Copland Fund, The Greenwall Foundation,
the Jerome Foundation, Foundation for Contemporary Performance Arts, JP
Morgan Chase Foundation and the Rodney White Foundation.
_______________________________________________________________________

HARVESTWORKS Digital Media Arts Center
596 Broadway, Suite 602 (at Houston St)
New York, NY 10012
Tel: 212-431-1130
http://www.harvestworks.org
Subway: F/V Broadway/Lafayette, 6 Bleeker, W/R Prince
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Subject: [ne-raves] Balt/DC - Starscape - June 9

Since no one else mentioned it...

http://starscapefestival.com/
June 9

2pm - 6am

 

Fort Armistead Park

   3999 Fort Armistead Road

   Baltimore, MD 21226 Fort Armistead Park is 35 acres of green tucked in to Baltimore's southernmost nub. Cut off from the hustle and bustle of downtown, the waterfront park showcases some fantastic views of the Francis Scott Key Bridge.



THE MAIN STAGE 

   The Disco Biscuits ::: RJD2 (DJ Set)  

   Benevento/Russo Duo ::: Brothers Past  

   Pasadena ::: Earthtone ::: The Beat Shaman  

   THE BUZZ TENT 

 Christopher Lawrence ::: Richard Vission 

 Simply Jeff ::: Scott Henry ::: Deekline 

 DJ Assault ::: Proxxy & Lantern ::: Leko 

 DJ Sun ::: Buster ::: Joe Kopasek  

 Justin Peak ::: Mark G 

 THE DRUM N' BASS TENT 

 The Beatnuts ::: DJ Craze w/ MC Armanni ::: Ed Rush & Optical 

 Adam F ::: Evol Intent ::: Reid Speed ::: Grandmaster Roc Raida 

 Robot Death Squad ::: Rev E ::: The Cannon Boys ::: Ackshun Jackson 

 Bobby Jae ::: Muramasa 

 THE BEACH STAGE 

 John Brown's Body ::: The Pietasters ::: Big In Japan  

 All Mighty Senators ::: ::: Can't Hang ::: Ballyhoo Late Night Breakfast 

 Opposable Thumbs ::: Basshound ::: Weekapaug Orchestra 

  Lovegrove & Adam Auburn ::: Chris Bulla ::: Ed Ridgely ::: DJ Sun 

 Cool DJ Willie ::: J Gray ::: X-Faction ::: B-Side  







       
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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Balt/DC - Starscape - June 9

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I'll be there!  Always a fun time with great music and great people!  This
year the event has been expanded to start earlier in the day and include
more bands, if you're into the band thing.  I'll be there at night for the
DJs bustin' out the moves!

And a tip about tickets, if you can't get to one of the places selling
tickets don't use ticketmaster.  It's just as cheap, if not cheaper to buy
them at the event.  I made the mistake of using ticketmaster last year.  And
I don't think you have to worry about the non-VIP tickets selling out since
the outdoors venue is pretty big.

On 5/31/07, Spurty <spurty_brown@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Since no one else mentioned it...
>
> http://starscapefestival.com/
> June 9
>
> 2pm - 6am
>
>
>
> Fort Armistead Park
>
>    3999 Fort Armistead Road
>
>    Baltimore, MD 21226 Fort Armistead Park is 35 acres of green tucked in
> to Baltimore's southernmost nub. Cut off from the hustle and bustle of
> downtown, the waterfront park showcases some fantastic views of the Francis
> Scott Key Bridge.
>
>
>
> THE MAIN STAGE
>
>    The Disco Biscuits ::: RJD2 (DJ Set)
>
>    Benevento/Russo Duo ::: Brothers Past
>
>    Pasadena ::: Earthtone ::: The Beat Shaman
>
>    THE BUZZ TENT
>
> Christopher Lawrence ::: Richard Vission
>
> Simply Jeff ::: Scott Henry ::: Deekline
>
> DJ Assault ::: Proxxy & Lantern ::: Leko
>
> DJ Sun ::: Buster ::: Joe Kopasek
>
> Justin Peak ::: Mark G
>
> THE DRUM N' BASS TENT
>
> The Beatnuts ::: DJ Craze w/ MC Armanni ::: Ed Rush & Optical
>
> Adam F ::: Evol Intent ::: Reid Speed ::: Grandmaster Roc Raida
>
> Robot Death Squad ::: Rev E ::: The Cannon Boys ::: Ackshun Jackson
>
> Bobby Jae ::: Muramasa
>
> THE BEACH STAGE
>
> John Brown's Body ::: The Pietasters ::: Big In Japan
>
> All Mighty Senators ::: ::: Can't Hang ::: Ballyhoo Late Night Breakfast
>
> Opposable Thumbs ::: Basshound ::: Weekapaug Orchestra
>
>   Lovegrove & Adam Auburn ::: Chris Bulla ::: Ed Ridgely ::: DJ Sun
>
> Cool DJ Willie ::: J Gray ::: X-Faction ::: B-Side
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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Balt/DC - Starscape - June 9

I was kind of wondering if it was my bad memory or that this event is indeed becoming less electronic and dancey. Just doesn't sell as well I suppose and so many bands straddle the line now which is kind of cool. Sorry but watching guys twiddle knobs < watching paint dry. But then it sucks that people don't dance to really great music sometimes because they see a "band" on stage performing. Trust me. Nothing would make bands more happy than to see the crowd not paying attention to them and just enraptured by the music and shakin' ass.

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I'll be there!  Always a fun time with great music and great people!  This

year the event has been expanded to start earlier in the day and include

more bands, if you're into the band thing.  I'll be there at night for the

DJs bustin' out the moves!













       
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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Balt/DC - Starscape - June 9

Ska crowds *definitely* dance with a band on stage, and I recall at
least some of the bands this year are certainly in the ska camp.  :-)

On 5/31/07, Spurty <spurty_brown@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I was kind of wondering if it was my bad memory or that this event is indeed becoming less electronic and dancey. Just doesn't sell as well I suppose and so many bands straddle the line now which is kind of cool. Sorry but watching guys twiddle knobs < watching paint dry. But then it sucks that people don't dance to really great music sometimes because they see a "band" on stage performing. Trust me. Nothing would make bands more happy than to see the crowd not paying attention to them and just enraptured by the music and shakin' ass.
>
> ----- Original Message ----
>
> From: The Work It Circuit <jungleboogiemonster@gmail.com>
>
>
>
> I'll be there!  Always a fun time with great music and great people!  This
>
> year the event has been expanded to start earlier in the day and include
>
> more bands, if you're into the band thing.  I'll be there at night for the
>
> DJs bustin' out the moves!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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I might be wrong on this but I think it's focused on bands during the day
and goes ravey at night.  At first I wasn't too happy about the bands but
then I realized that it's a good way to promote the rave.  The band crowd
might just stick around for the DJs and get exposed to a whole new world of
musical pleasures.

On 5/31/07, Spurty <spurty_brown@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I was kind of wondering if it was my bad memory or that this event is
> indeed becoming less electronic and dancey. Just doesn't sell as well I
> suppose and so many bands straddle the line now which is kind of cool. Sorry
> but watching guys twiddle knobs < watching paint dry. But then it sucks that
> people don't dance to really great music sometimes because they see a "band"
> on stage performing. Trust me. Nothing would make bands more happy than to
> see the crowd not paying attention to them and just enraptured by the music
> and shakin' ass.
>
> ----- Original Message ----
>
> From: The Work It Circuit <jungleboogiemonster@gmail.com>
>
>
>
> I'll be there!  Always a fun time with great music and great people!  This
>
> year the event has been expanded to start earlier in the day and include
>
> more bands, if you're into the band thing.  I'll be there at night for the
>
> DJs bustin' out the moves!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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