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Subject: [ne-raves] 06.03 :: COMFORTABLY NUMB :: ALIAS@Nation : DnB+Breaks : OPEN BAR


* Get on the $4 VIP list! -- info at bottom of this email...
* IF YOU ALREADY EMAILED ME YOUR REDUCED LIST, I DID RECEIVE IT.  IF YOU AR=
E
A DJ on this night PLEASE SEND YOUR LISTS ASAP...


ALIAS Thursdays | Drum =8Cn=B9 Bass & Breaks | upstairs lounge Nation-DC
=20


Thursday, 06.03.04 ::   ALIAS @NATION + Alchemy

Alias gets.... comfortably numb

Admission ::=20

* 2 for 1 admission  9 p.m. - 10 p.m.
* $7 (usually) after 10 p.m.
* $4 (always) vip list after 10 p.m.
* Email [alias_agent_johntab@mac.com] to get on the $4 vip list! see bottom
of this email for more details
=20
OPEN BAR ::  9 p.m. - 10 p.m. + $5 pitchers all night!
=20
* 09:00-11:00   jleib [drum=B9n=B9bass]
* 11:00 - 12:15   bioteknik vs. nysus [breaks]
* 12:15 -01:30   insulin [drum=B9n=B9bass]
* 01:30-02:45   proxxy vs. pico [breaks]

Check to see who=B9s going to ALIAS this week:

http://www.buzzlife.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3D37407

Check to see what people said about ALIAS last week:

http://www.buzzlife.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3D36961


Be sure to check out CUBIK@NATION every Friday.

Open Bar:  9 p.m. - 10 p.m.

Upcoming Lineups:

06.04.04:  Planet Of The Drums w/ Dieselboy+Dara+AK1200
06.11.04:  Richie Hawtin + Magda
06.18.04:  Sander Kleinenberg + Kazell
06.25.04:  Tiesto + Roman Bath Foam Party
07.02.04:  FIRECRACKER 4:  Danny Howells + Fresh (Bad Company) + DJ SS

For full details:  http://www.buzzlife.com


VIP Reduced List:  Email me by 6:30 p.m. each Thursday with an unlimited
list of you and your friends=B9 full names: [alias_agent_johntab@mac.com ]
When you arrive at ALIAS, make sure your name is crossed off the $4 list
after you pay.
=20
Af this point, you are automatically on the C=FCBIK/BUZZLIFE reduced list [$5
off the full price] the next night. If you sign up for the ALIAS list, but
don=B9t attend, you will NOT be on the C=FCBIK/BUZZLIFE reduced list the next
night. THIS OFFER IS ONLY GOOD IF YOU ATTEND BOTH ALIAS + CUBIK!
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Subject: [ne-raves] .: Dirtbox Radio : 11 New Archives & A New Server :.


Word word worrrrrrd....  Ok y'all, I finally got the last 3 weeks' worth
of madness up on the site.  And that shit's fast!  No more 10 hour
downloads!  w00t!

um... anyways...  go to www.dirtboxradio.com/archives.html to check out
the new additions (and more), or click on ze links below:

>> 5/16

1. ODJ & Jerel (59:26)
56k http://dirtboxradio.com/DirtboxRadio-20040516-1-ODJ+Jerel.ram
192k http://dirtboxradio.com/mp3/DirtboxRadio-20040516-1-ODJ+Jerel.mp3

2. Patrick Scientific (123:07)
56k http://dirtboxradio.com/DirtboxRadio-20040516-2-Patrick_Scientific.ram
192k
http://dirtboxradio.com/mp3/DirtboxRadio-20040516-2-Patrick_Scientific.mp3

3. Afterhours [ODJ, Jerel, Hooligan, Lycan, Muramasa] (227:08)
56k http://dirtboxradio.com/DirtboxRadio-20040516-3-Afterhours.ram
192k http://dirtboxradio.com/mp3/DirtboxRadio-20040516-3-Afterhours.mp3

>> 5/23

1. ODJ & Jerel (50:32)
56k http://dirtboxradio.com/DirtboxRadio-20040523-1-ODJ+Jerel.ram
192k http://dirtboxradio.com/mp3/DirtboxRadio-20040523-1-ODJ+Jerel.mp3

2. Shilow (95:12)
56k http://dirtboxradio.com/DirtboxRadio-20040523-2-Shilow.ram
192k http://dirtboxradio.com/mp3/DirtboxRadio-20040523-2-Shilow.mp3

3. Scandal (122:33)
56k http://dirtboxradio.com/DirtboxRadio-20040523-3-Scandal.ram
192k http://dirtboxradio.com/mp3/DirtboxRadio-20040523-3-Scandal.mp3

4. Jerel & ODJ (131:56)
56k http://dirtboxradio.com/DirtboxRadio-20040523-4-Jerel+ODJ.ram
192k http://dirtboxradio.com/mp3/DirtboxRadio-20040523-4-Jerel+ODJ.mp3

>> 5/30

1. ODJ, Jerel, & Phil Scott (59:54)
56k
http://dirtboxradio.com/DirtboxRadio-20040530-1-ODJ+Jerel+Phil_Scott.ram
192k
http://dirtboxradio.com/mp3/DirtboxRadio-20040530-1-ODJ+Jerel+Phil_Scott.mp3

2. Photosphere (98:20)
56k http://dirtboxradio.com/DirtboxRadio-20040530-2-Photosphere.ram
192k http://dirtboxradio.com/mp3/DirtboxRadio-20040530-2-Photosphere.mp3

3. Lycan (73:21)
56k http://dirtboxradio.com/DirtboxRadio-20040530-3-Lycan.ram
192k http://dirtboxradio.com/mp3/DirtboxRadio-20040530-3-Lycan.mp3

4. Afterhours [ODJ, Phil Scott, Crucial Carl, Lycan, illEffect, & Brian
Arse] (217:17)
56k http://dirtboxradio.com/DirtboxRadio-20040530-4-Afterhours.ram
192k http://dirtboxradio.com/mp3/DirtboxRadio-20040530-4-Afterhours.mp3

word up.  keep your eyes peeled for more content to be added on the site
in the near future (ferreal this time!)

Take it sleasy,
Jackson

Jackson aka ODJ

Partners in Crime, www.DirtboxRadio.com, Trividual Productions, ALIAS

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Subject: [ne-raves] .: Dirtbox Radio : 11 New Archives & A New Server :.


Word word worrrrrrd....  Ok y'all, I finally got the last 3 weeks' worth
of madness up on the site.  And that shit's fast!  No more 10 hour
downloads!  w00t!

um... anyways...  go to www.dirtboxradio.com/archives.html to check out
the new additions (and more), or click on ze links below:

>> 5/16

1. ODJ & Jerel (59:26)
56k http://dirtboxradio.com/DirtboxRadio-20040516-1-ODJ+Jerel.ram
192k http://dirtboxradio.com/mp3/DirtboxRadio-20040516-1-ODJ+Jerel.mp3

2. Patrick Scientific (123:07)
56k http://dirtboxradio.com/DirtboxRadio-20040516-2-Patrick_Scientific.ram
192k
http://dirtboxradio.com/mp3/DirtboxRadio-20040516-2-Patrick_Scientific.mp3

3. Afterhours [ODJ, Jerel, Hooligan, Lycan, Muramasa] (227:08)
56k http://dirtboxradio.com/DirtboxRadio-20040516-3-Afterhours.ram
192k http://dirtboxradio.com/mp3/DirtboxRadio-20040516-3-Afterhours.mp3

>> 5/23

1. ODJ & Jerel (50:32)
56k http://dirtboxradio.com/DirtboxRadio-20040523-1-ODJ+Jerel.ram
192k http://dirtboxradio.com/mp3/DirtboxRadio-20040523-1-ODJ+Jerel.mp3

2. Shilow (95:12)
56k http://dirtboxradio.com/DirtboxRadio-20040523-2-Shilow.ram
192k http://dirtboxradio.com/mp3/DirtboxRadio-20040523-2-Shilow.mp3

3. Scandal (122:33)
56k http://dirtboxradio.com/DirtboxRadio-20040523-3-Scandal.ram
192k http://dirtboxradio.com/mp3/DirtboxRadio-20040523-3-Scandal.mp3

4. Jerel & ODJ (131:56)
56k http://dirtboxradio.com/DirtboxRadio-20040523-4-Jerel+ODJ.ram
192k http://dirtboxradio.com/mp3/DirtboxRadio-20040523-4-Jerel+ODJ.mp3

>> 5/30

1. ODJ, Jerel, & Phil Scott (59:54)
56k
http://dirtboxradio.com/DirtboxRadio-20040530-1-ODJ+Jerel+Phil_Scott.ram
192k
http://dirtboxradio.com/mp3/DirtboxRadio-20040530-1-ODJ+Jerel+Phil_Scott.mp3

2. Photosphere (98:20)
56k http://dirtboxradio.com/DirtboxRadio-20040530-2-Photosphere.ram
192k http://dirtboxradio.com/mp3/DirtboxRadio-20040530-2-Photosphere.mp3

3. Lycan (73:21)
56k http://dirtboxradio.com/DirtboxRadio-20040530-3-Lycan.ram
192k http://dirtboxradio.com/mp3/DirtboxRadio-20040530-3-Lycan.mp3

4. Afterhours [ODJ, Phil Scott, Crucial Carl, Lycan, illEffect, & Brian
Arse] (217:17)
56k http://dirtboxradio.com/DirtboxRadio-20040530-4-Afterhours.ram
192k http://dirtboxradio.com/mp3/DirtboxRadio-20040530-4-Afterhours.mp3

word up.  keep your eyes peeled for more content to be added on the site
in the near future (ferreal this time!)

Take it sleasy,
Jackson

Jackson aka ODJ

Partners in Crime, www.DirtboxRadio.com, Trividual Productions, ALIAS

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Subject: [ne-raves] 06.03 :: update :: COMFORTABLY NUMB :: ALIAS@Nation : DnB+Breaks
	: OPEN BAR


* Get on the $4 VIP list! -- info at bottom of this email...
* IF YOU ALREADY EMAILED ME YOUR REDUCED LIST, I DID RECEIVE IT.  IF YOU AR=
E
A DJ on this night PLEASE SEND YOUR LISTS ASAP...


ALIAS Thursdays | Drum =8Cn=B9 Bass & Breaks | upstairs lounge Nation-DC
=20


Thursday, 06.03.04 ::   ALIAS @NATION + Alchemy

Alias gets.... comfortably numb

Admission ::=20

* 2 for 1 admission  9 p.m. - 10 p.m.
* $7 (usually) after 10 p.m.
* $4 (always) vip list after 10 p.m.
* Email [alias_agent_johntab@mac.com] to get on the $4 vip list! see bottom
of this email for more details
=20
OPEN BAR ::  9 p.m. - 10 p.m. + $5 pitchers all night!
=20
* 09:00-11:00   infuze vs. prophet [drum=B9n=B9bass] -- just added to lineup!
* 11:00 - 12:15   bioteknik vs. nysus [breaks]
* 12:15 -01:30   insulin [drum=B9n=B9bass]
* 01:30-02:45   proxxy vs. pico [breaks]

Check to see who=B9s going to ALIAS this week:

http://www.buzzlife.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3D37407

Check to see what people said about ALIAS last week:

http://www.buzzlife.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3D36961


Be sure to check out CUBIK@NATION every Friday.

Open Bar:  9 p.m. - 10 p.m.

Upcoming Lineups:

06.04.04:  Planet Of The Drums w/ Dieselboy+Dara+AK1200
06.11.04:  Richie Hawtin + Magda
06.18.04:  Sander Kleinenberg + Kazell
06.25.04:  Tiesto + Roman Bath Foam Party
07.02.04:  FIRECRACKER 4:  Danny Howells + Fresh (Bad Company) + DJ SS

For full details:  http://www.buzzlife.com


VIP Reduced List:  Email me by 6:30 p.m. each Thursday with an unlimited
list of you and your friends=B9 full names: [alias_agent_johntab@mac.com ]
When you arrive at ALIAS, make sure your name is crossed off the $4 list
after you pay.
=20
Af this point, you are automatically on the C=FCBIK/BUZZLIFE reduced list [$5
off the full price] the next night. If you sign up for the ALIAS list, but
don=B9t attend, you will NOT be on the C=FCBIK/BUZZLIFE reduced list the next
night. THIS OFFER IS ONLY GOOD IF YOU ATTEND BOTH ALIAS + CUBIK!
=20















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Subject: [ne-raves] 2NITE :: FREE ENTRY @ FIVE :: SIMPLY JEFF, LA :: OLD SCHOOL . FUNK

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LUSH PROMOTIONS presents
Pearl @ Club 5 

21+ . No Dress Code . $10 Admission All Night . Doors 10pm to 5am


::: FRIDAY, JUNE 4th :::


Main Room

SIMPLY JEFF - Phonomental / DJCuluture.com, LA

JAY CLUE - 308CREW, LA/DC

FORT KNOX FIVE - FORT KNOX FIVE REC. / 308CREW, DC

 
Rooftop

DJ OSO-FRESH - HIP HOP & PARTY CLASSICS


:: Join (L)us(H) early for OPEN BAR -- 10:00pm - 11:00pm ::


Email LUSHPROMO@AOL.COM for FREE ENTRY b4 Midnight
-- Please include each persons full name & email address
-- All requests must be received by 8:00pm on Friday


For Table Reservations: Call ROHAN 202.903.7186

______________

.: DEEJAY BIOS :.

SIMPLY JEFF - Phonomental / DJCuluture.com, LA
We managed to convince Jeff to go digging in the crates and whip up some old 
funky 
breaks, hip hop and electronic for the masses. He will be dropping early 
classics from 
such artists as Uberzone, The DJ's Project, Grandmaster Flash, and the Sugar 
Hill Gang. 
It is time Jeff educates the masses again. He was one of the original old 
school funky 
breaks and elctro DJ's. He helped put the west coast on the map alongside 
DJ Dan, The Crystal Method, Jeno and Uberzone to name a few. 

Come witness this legend doing what he does best... Dropping the OLD SCHOOL 
FUNK!!!



JAY CLUE - 308CREW, LA/DC
This old DC expatriat is one of our favorite DJ's. He has been doing his 
thing on the Left 
coast for quite sometime now. For any of you catz that saw him in the 
nineties or at 
the turn of the millenium, you know the deal... this guy is a true party 
rocker! He plays 
for the crowd and knows how to rip the vibe. His mixes, The Funkaholic Fix 
Series, 
are constantly getting plays from a lot of old school katz. Come check the 
technique!!!


FORT KNOX FIVE - FORT KNOX FIVE REC. / 308CREW, DC
You all know they do it... straight funk for the trunk! These catz have been 
making a 
name for themselves worldwide, recently they produced a nice section of 
Afrika 
Bambaataa's upcoming album on Tommy Boy. They are also in the process of 
remixing 
such great hits as a Skillz & Krafty Kutz, Dynamo productions tracks, Kraak 
en Smaak, 
Dr. Rubberfunk, and a rack more. They have placed themselves into a league 
with 
some of the top funky music producers and DJ's. This will be there first show 
back from and 8 date european tour, GET READY FOR THE FK5!!!


DJ OSO-FRESH - HIP HOP & PARTY CLASSICS (ROOF TOP PARTY)
Come on now!!! No latenight old school session would be complete without 
POLLEN RESIDENT, and one of the original DC Hip Hop DJ's... OSOFRESH. 
This guy is so versatile, it amazes us all. He can flip tempos and vibes like 
none-other... 
DJ's... Take Notes... He can rock whatever he wants, anytime he wants.

Give it up for a true DC Pioneer.

______________


Experience the night on CLUB FIVE's Full Bass Heavy EAW Avalon Sound system!!

Club Five is a spacious 3 level club offering a variety of moods. Some of the 
club's features include 3 fully stocked large bars, lounge areas, 
state-of-the-art sound and lighting systems, long-back sofas, coat check, and a rooftop 
patio.

21+ . No Dress Code . $10 admission . Doors 10 to 5

Club Five: 1214 B 18th Street NW, WDC

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Subject: [ne-raves] Skinny Puppy reunited?!

I know these guys aren't ravey but I'm damn sure a lot of the people who
make music played at raves love their stuff or at the very least respect
these guys tons.

http://www.irvingplaza.com/bands/bio.php?ID=1610

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Pearl @ Club 5 

21+ . No Dress Code . $10 Admission All Night . Doors 10pm to 5am


::: FRIDAY, JUNE 4th :::


Main Room

SIMPLY JEFF - Phonomental / DJCuluture.com, LA

JAY CLUE - 308CREW, LA/DC

FORT KNOX FIVE - FORT KNOX FIVE REC. / 308CREW, DC

 
Rooftop

DJ OSO-FRESH - HIP HOP & PARTY CLASSICS


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SIMPLY JEFF - Phonomental / DJCuluture.com, LA
We managed to convince Jeff to go digging in the crates and whip up some old 
funky 
breaks, hip hop and electronic for the masses. He will be dropping early 
classics from 
such artists as Uberzone, The DJ's Project, Grandmaster Flash, and the Sugar 
Hill Gang. 
It is time Jeff educates the masses again. He was one of the original old 
school funky 
breaks and elctro DJ's. He helped put the west coast on the map alongside 
DJ Dan, The Crystal Method, Jeno and Uberzone to name a few. 

Come witness this legend doing what he does best... Dropping the OLD SCHOOL 
FUNK!!!



JAY CLUE - 308CREW, LA/DC
This old DC expatriat is one of our favorite DJ's. He has been doing his 
thing on the Left 
coast for quite sometime now. For any of you catz that saw him in the 
nineties or at 
the turn of the millenium, you know the deal... this guy is a true party 
rocker! He plays 
for the crowd and knows how to rip the vibe. His mixes, The Funkaholic Fix 
Series, 
are constantly getting plays from a lot of old school katz. Come check the 
technique!!!


FORT KNOX FIVE - FORT KNOX FIVE REC. / 308CREW, DC
You all know they do it... straight funk for the trunk! These catz have been 
making a 
name for themselves worldwide, recently they produced a nice section of 
Afrika 
Bambaataa's upcoming album on Tommy Boy. They are also in the process of 
remixing 
such great hits as a Skillz & Krafty Kutz, Dynamo productions tracks, Kraak 
en Smaak, 
Dr. Rubberfunk, and a rack more. They have placed themselves into a league 
with 
some of the top funky music producers and DJ's. This will be there first show 
back from and 8 date european tour, GET READY FOR THE FK5!!!


DJ OSO-FRESH - HIP HOP & PARTY CLASSICS (ROOF TOP PARTY)
Come on now!!! No latenight old school session would be complete without 
POLLEN RESIDENT, and one of the original DC Hip Hop DJ's... OSOFRESH. 
This guy is so versatile, it amazes us all. He can flip tempos and vibes like 
none-other... 
DJ's... Take Notes... He can rock whatever he wants, anytime he wants.

Give it up for a true DC Pioneer.

______________


Experience the night on CLUB FIVE's Full Bass Heavy EAW Avalon Sound system!!

Club Five is a spacious 3 level club offering a variety of moods. Some of the 
club's features include 3 fully stocked large bars, lounge areas, 
state-of-the-art sound and lighting systems, long-back sofas, coat check, and a rooftop 
patio.

21+ . No Dress Code . $10 admission . Doors 10 to 5

Club Five: 1214 B 18th Street NW, WDC

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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Skinny Puppy reunited?!


--- Jasper Lin <jasper@hyperreal.org> wrote:
> I know these guys aren't ravey but I'm damn sure a
> lot of the people who
> make music played at raves love their stuff or at
> the very least respect
> these guys tons.
> 

Man i havent listened to skinny puppy since high
school.  Of course this is the night before my Step 1
exam.

:/  figures...


	
		
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Subject: [ne-raves] RE: Mike, Todd & Holly maybe you'll learn a lesson

heres a lesson for you bright minded folks out there who dont even have 
enough vision to know anything outside of your neighborhood. i will write 
comments in this brilliant christian essay. so read it again. all of the 
previous 8th grade essay has foward email marks in front of it (    >    )



>Subject: Mike, Todd & Holly maybe you'll learn a lesson

>
>This was written by an 8 year old, Danny Dutton of Chula Vista, CA, for his
>third grade homework assignment. The assignment was to explain God.
>
>I just wonder if any of us could do as well???
>
>EXPLANATION OF GOD
>
>"One of God's main jobs is making people. He makes them to replace the ones
>that die, so there will be enough people to take care of things on earth. 
>He
>doesn't make grownups, just babies. I think because they are smaller and
>easier to make. That way he doesn't have to take up his valuable time
>teaching them to talk and walk. He can just leave that to mothers and
>fathers."

GOD IS A MAN? GOD IS A HUMAN? GOD IS A THING THAT EXISTS LIKE ALL OTHER 
PEOPLE?
>
>"God's second most important job is listening to prayers. An awful lot of
>this goes on, since some people, like preachers and things, pray at times
>beside bedtime. God doesn't have time to listen to the radio or TV because
>of this. Because he hears everything, there must be a terrible lot of noise
>in his ears, unless he has thought of a way to turn it off."

GOD SOUNDS LIKE A HUMAN TO ME. STORIES CHANGE OVER TIME. ESPECIALLY TWO 
THOUSAND YEARS THROUGH MANY DIFFERENT LANGUAGES, GOD COULD HAVE BEEN A 
PERSON WHO DISCOVERED WHAT I AM LOOKING FOR IN LIFE. ULTIMATE POWER THROUGH 
THE MIND.
>
>"God sees everything and hears everything and is everywhere which keeps Him
>pretty busy. So you shouldn't go wasting his time by going over your mom 
>and
>dad's head asking for something they said you couldn't have."
>
YOU CAN WASTE GOD'S TIME? THE INFINITE BEING IS RULED BY TIME? SOUNDS BOGUS.

>"Atheists are people who don't believe in God. I don't think there are any
>in Chula Vista. At least there aren't any who come to our church."
>
THIS SHOWS THE EXTENT OF THE AVERAGE CHRISTIANS INTELLECTUAL CAPACITY. THEIR 
OWN NEIGHBORHOOD. ANYONE WHO DOESNT GO TO CHURCH IS A SINNER. HOW ABOUT 
SINCE CHRISTIANITY CLOSES YOUR EYES TO SO MUCH OF THE WORLD, YOU TAKE IT 
UPON YOURSELF AND DISCOVER THAT THE "EVIL" POWER THAT LIES WITHIN YOU IS 
ACTUALLY THE POWER TO DO GOOD AND BREAK OTHERS FREE FROM THE SATANIC BONDS 
OF THE CHRISTIANITY YOU PRACTICE SINCE IF YOU FLIP FLOP CHRISTIANITY AND 
SATANISM YOU'LL FIND THAT THERE IS MORE PEACE AMONG SATANISTS WHO BASK IN 
THE RADIANCE OF THEMSELVES RATHER THAN THE WARS THAT ARE STARTED BY THE 
CHRISTIANS WHO THINK ALL THE NON BELIVERS ARE THE ENEMY. CHURCH CHRISTIANITY 
WAS CREATED BY THE DEVIL TO MAKE YOU WEAK AND CLOSED MINDED. SATANISM WAS 
TITLED THAT WAY BY SATAN SO YOU FEAR YOUR TRUE POTENTIAL AND YOU WILL REMAIN 
WEAK.


>"Jesus is God's Son. He used to do all the hard work like walking on water
>and performing miracles and trying to teach the people who didn't want to
>learn about God. They finally got tired of him preaching to them and they
>crucified him. But he was good and kind, like his father, and he told his
>father that they didn't know what they were doing and to forgive them and
>God said O.K."
>

GOD SPEAKS ENGLISH. BLA BLA BLA.


>"His dad (God) appreciated everything that he had done and all his hard 
>work
>on earth so he told him he didn't have to go out on the road anymore. He
>could stay in heaven. So he did. And now he helps his dad out by listening
>to prayers and seeing things which are important for God to take care of 
>and
>which ones he can take care of himself without having to bother God. Like a
>secretary, only more important."
>
GOD HAS A SON. JUST LIKE A HUMAN CHILD. WHAT A CONCEPT.

>"You can pray anytime you want and they are sure to help you because they
>got it worked out so one of them is on duty all the time."

AGAIN WITH THE TIME CONCEPT VS. THE INFINITE BEING GOD.

>
>"You should always go to church on Sunday because it makes God happy, and 
>if
>there's anybody you want to make happy, it's God.
>
>Don't skip church or do something you think will be more fun like going to
>the beach. This is wrong. And besides the sun doesn't come out at the beach
>until noon anyway."
>
CHURCH IS A SOCIAL GATHERING WITH THE ULTIMATE MIDDLE MAN(CHRIST). SO 
WHATEVER REALTIONSHIPS YOU START IN CHURCH, THEY WILL ALWAYS BE TAINTED. YOU 
ARE RELATING TO THOSE PEOPLE THROUGH A MYTHOLOGICAL HUMAN FIGURE(GOD) OF 
YOUR OWN CREATION. YOUR GOD IS NOT THE SAME AS THEIR GOD SO BASICALLY IT IS 
A FALSE RELATIONSHIP WITH EVERYONE YOU MEET AT CHURCH.

>"If you don't believe in God, besides being an atheist, you will be very
>lonely, because your parents can't go everywhere with you, like to camp, 
>but
>God can. It is good to know He's around you when you're scared, in the dark
>or when you can't swim and you get thrown into real deep water by big 
>kids."

YOU MAY BE LONELY TO BEGIN WITH BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT ASSUMING THAT YOU KNOW 
SOMEBODY BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT FEELING THE PRESENCE OF GOD FEELS LIKE. WHEN 
IN TRUTH, NEITHER OF YOU KNOW ANYTHING OF THE SORT BECAUSE YOU BOTH ARE JUST 
ASSUMING EVERYTHING AND ARE MOST LIKELY WRONG.  AND WHEN YOURE SCARED IN THE 
DARK, YOU SEARCH FOR WAYS OUT OF THE DARK, THUS THE BASIC FOUNDATION OF THE 
MIND, PSYCHIC COMMUNICATION TO RELAY TRUE THOUGHT TO EACH OTHER WITH NO 
LANGUAGE AND THUS ENDING ALL SOCIAL BARRIERS CREATED BY THE CHURCH AND ALL 
OTHER "CIVILIZED" THINGS.

>
>"But...you shouldn't just always think of what God can do for you. I figure
>God put me here and he can take me back anytime he pleases.

YOU ARE THE COMBINATION OF MATTER AND ENERGY. AND THIS ISNT THE ULTIMATE 
REFUND LIFE. YOU DONT GET TAKEN BACK BY ANYTHING. IF YOU ARE GOING TO INVENT 
CRAZY IDEALS LIKE AFTERLIFE, AT LEAST MAKE THEM INVOLVE YOUR PRESENT LIFE 
WHILE YOU ARE ALIVE. LIVE FOR NOW. AND JUST DO IT FOR YOURSELF, AND WHEN YOU 
SUCCEED, OTHERS WILL BENEFIT FROM WATCHING YOUR PATH AND LEARNING WHAT YOU 
TOOK YOUR LIFE TO DISCOVER. HOW ABOUT THAT.

>
>And...that's why I believe in God."
>
AND THAT IS WHY I BELIEVE IN MY DREAMS.



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Subject: [ne-raves] .: Dirtbox Radio Tonight! [6/6] : Ransom, illEffect :.


BOH!

Tonight's another bomb-ass show for y'all, chock full of rediculously phat
drum 'n' bass goodness.  check out the lineup (all times EST of course):

7-8pm - odj & jerel - yer faithful hosts bring the danger, dirtbox style.
expect anything.  well.. anything but anything not drum 'n' bass.  you
know we like the drums and basses.  werd.

8-9:30pm - illEffect - even though he was just on the show last week (for
afterhours) we haven't got completely sick and tired of this guy.  he can
throw down a mean set, complete with bouncy party tracks and turntablism
to boot, so we'll let him hang around for a little bit tonight ;)

9:30-11pm - ransom - the one and only mister harry ransom will be gracing
us with his presence tonight.  harry's a hardcore junglist soldier who's
been holdin it down around DC for FOREVAR!  plus he's a nice guy and he
likes NARUTO!  biggup to him :)

11-??am - AFTERHOURS - you know what happens when the sun goes down (or
comes up)!  dirtbox gets rowdy!

so yeah, tune yer asses in tonight, it'll be good shit as always.  biggup
all the djs on desroyer.net and jungletrain.net.  if you like our shit,
tune in to theirs as well!

Links:

Destroyer.net (128k): http://64.246.60.15:8800/listen.pls

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LUSH PROMOTIONS present
Pearl @ Club Five 

21+ . No Dress Code . $10 Admission All Night . Doors 10pm to 5am


:: FRIDAY, JUNE 11th ::


Main Room

SUPERSTAR DJ KEOKI - TECHNO

with Carl Weathers

 
Rooftop

DJ OSO-FRESH - HIP HOP & PARTY CLASSICS


:: Join (L)us(H) early for OPEN BAR -- 10PM - 11PM ::


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SUPERSTAR DJ KEOKI
TECHNO


Ten years before Ecstacy made it's way to the cover of Time, Keoki was 
preaching a new, dark brand of techno trance to legions of highly chromatic club 
kids in New York's legendary Limelight. He was the prototypical DJ bad boy, 
cutting his teeth at Disco 2000, the night club where unsupervised drug use was the 
norm and patrons routinely stripped naked for a 3 a.m. bacchanalian ritual. 
This was the world before Giuliani broke the back of Peter Gatien's club empire 
and when GHB, ketamine and rohypnol were off the Drug Enforcement 
Administration's radar. Keoki may not have been the ringleader of the nocturnal freak 
fest, but as the club's resident DJ and soon-to-be-infamous "king of the club 
kids" Michael Alig's roomate (immortalized in the recent movie, PARTY MONSTER), 
he was definitely the star.

But the El Salvadorian-born & Hawaiian-raised Keoki says he doesn't want to 
live off the macabre celebrity that Alig's gruesome murder of a New York drug 
dealer affords him. Nor has he become a tell-all tabloid caricature, like much 
of his club-kid fraternity who appeared on late-'90's Geraldo, Jenny Jones & 
Ricki Lake shows as frequently as mullet haircuts. He recently turned down 
appearances on E! Entertainment Television & The Howard Stern Show, much to his 
label's dismay. 

Instead, Keoki Franconi would love you to focus on his "near" sobriety, PLUR 
and his latest CD, where he sings, among other things, a techno cover version 
of Frankie Goes To Hollywood's "Relax." Having sold over 580,000 records and 
mix CD's, he sees his recent years and new album Jealousy as a move toward the 
center of American dance music's dramatic rise. 

A movement that he helped start...

DJ OSO-FRESH (ROOF TOP PARTY)
HIP HOP & PARTY CLASSICS


Come on now!!! No late night old school session would be complete without 
POLLEN RESIDENT, and one of the original DC Hip Hop DJ's... OSOFRESH. This guy is 
so versatile, it amazes us all. He can flip tempos and vibes like no other. 
DJ's... Take Notes... He can rock whatever he wants, anytime he wants.

Give it up for a true DC Pioneer.

______________


Experience the night on CLUB FIVE's Full Bass Heavy EAW Avalon Sound system!!

Club Five is a spacious 3 level club offering a variety of moods. Some of the 
club's features include 3 fully stocked large bars, lounge areas, 
state-of-the-art sound and lighting systems, long-back sofas, coat check, and a rooftop 
patio.

21+ . No Dress Code . $10 admission . Doors 10 to 5

Club Five: 1214 B 18th Street NW, WDC

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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] RE: Mike, Todd & Holly maybe you'll learn a lesson

I thought this was hilarious  - not the eighth grade essay (though I think it
was most likely written by an 8 year old) - rather, your comments.  I think the
one of the funniest things is when an uneducated person tries to counter
philosophical argument with some pseudo-intellectual crap full of stereotypes,
uniformed "truths", and other worthless drivel.  You would be surprised at the
number of people on this list who consider themselves Christians.  

The existence of God cannot be proved or disproved.  That's why it's called
"Faith".  It is a belief in the unseen or unknown.  And do you realise how many
people you just offended on this list by calling them and their families
close-minded, lacking in "vision" (nice vague word to throw around), warmongers,
and shallow?  

For future reference, this is a rave list.  Keep your off-topic rants to
yourself and your friends.  Unless they are halfway intelligent - but I don't
see that as being an option in your case.

-jw
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---- On Sun, 06 Jun 2004, Todd x (chokken@hotmail.com) wrote:

> heres a lesson for you bright minded folks out there who dont even have 
> enough vision to know anything outside of your neighborhood. i will write 
> comments in this brilliant christian essay. so read it again. all of the 
> previous 8th grade essay has foward email marks in front of it (    >    )
> 
> 
> 
> >Subject: Mike, Todd & Holly maybe you'll learn a lesson
> 
> >
> >This was written by an 8 year old, Danny Dutton of Chula Vista, CA, for his
> >third grade homework assignment. The assignment was to explain God.
> >
> >I just wonder if any of us could do as well???
> >
> >EXPLANATION OF GOD
> >
> >"One of God's main jobs is making people. He makes them to replace the ones
> >that die, so there will be enough people to take care of things on earth. 
> >He
> >doesn't make grownups, just babies. I think because they are smaller and
> >easier to make. That way he doesn't have to take up his valuable time
> >teaching them to talk and walk. He can just leave that to mothers and
> >fathers."
> 
> GOD IS A MAN? GOD IS A HUMAN? GOD IS A THING THAT EXISTS LIKE ALL OTHER 
> PEOPLE?
> >
> >"God's second most important job is listening to prayers. An awful lot of
> >this goes on, since some people, like preachers and things, pray at times
> >beside bedtime. God doesn't have time to listen to the radio or TV because
> >of this. Because he hears everything, there must be a terrible lot of noise
> >in his ears, unless he has thought of a way to turn it off."
> 
> GOD SOUNDS LIKE A HUMAN TO ME. STORIES CHANGE OVER TIME. ESPECIALLY TWO 
> THOUSAND YEARS THROUGH MANY DIFFERENT LANGUAGES, GOD COULD HAVE BEEN A 
> PERSON WHO DISCOVERED WHAT I AM LOOKING FOR IN LIFE. ULTIMATE POWER THROUGH 
> THE MIND.
> >
> >"God sees everything and hears everything and is everywhere which keeps Him
> >pretty busy. So you shouldn't go wasting his time by going over your mom 
> >and
> >dad's head asking for something they said you couldn't have."
> >
> YOU CAN WASTE GOD'S TIME? THE INFINITE BEING IS RULED BY TIME? SOUNDS BOGUS.
> 
> >"Atheists are people who don't believe in God. I don't think there are any
> >in Chula Vista. At least there aren't any who come to our church."
> >
> THIS SHOWS THE EXTENT OF THE AVERAGE CHRISTIANS INTELLECTUAL CAPACITY. THEIR 
> OWN NEIGHBORHOOD. ANYONE WHO DOESNT GO TO CHURCH IS A SINNER. HOW ABOUT 
> SINCE CHRISTIANITY CLOSES YOUR EYES TO SO MUCH OF THE WORLD, YOU TAKE IT 
> UPON YOURSELF AND DISCOVER THAT THE "EVIL" POWER THAT LIES WITHIN YOU IS 
> ACTUALLY THE POWER TO DO GOOD AND BREAK OTHERS FREE FROM THE SATANIC BONDS 
> OF THE CHRISTIANITY YOU PRACTICE SINCE IF YOU FLIP FLOP CHRISTIANITY AND 
> SATANISM YOU'LL FIND THAT THERE IS MORE PEACE AMONG SATANISTS WHO BASK IN 
> THE RADIANCE OF THEMSELVES RATHER THAN THE WARS THAT ARE STARTED BY THE 
> CHRISTIANS WHO THINK ALL THE NON BELIVERS ARE THE ENEMY. CHURCH CHRISTIANITY 
> WAS CREATED BY THE DEVIL TO MAKE YOU WEAK AND CLOSED MINDED. SATANISM WAS 
> TITLED THAT WAY BY SATAN SO YOU FEAR YOUR TRUE POTENTIAL AND YOU WILL REMAIN 
> WEAK.
> 
> 
> >"Jesus is God's Son. He used to do all the hard work like walking on water
> >and performing miracles and trying to teach the people who didn't want to
> >learn about God. They finally got tired of him preaching to them and they
> >crucified him. But he was good and kind, like his father, and he told his
> >father that they didn't know what they were doing and to forgive them and
> >God said O.K."
> >
> 
> GOD SPEAKS ENGLISH. BLA BLA BLA.
> 
> 
> >"His dad (God) appreciated everything that he had done and all his hard 
> >work
> >on earth so he told him he didn't have to go out on the road anymore. He
> >could stay in heaven. So he did. And now he helps his dad out by listening
> >to prayers and seeing things which are important for God to take care of 
> >and
> >which ones he can take care of himself without having to bother God. Like a
> >secretary, only more important."
> >
> GOD HAS A SON. JUST LIKE A HUMAN CHILD. WHAT A CONCEPT.
> 
> >"You can pray anytime you want and they are sure to help you because they
> >got it worked out so one of them is on duty all the time."
> 
> AGAIN WITH THE TIME CONCEPT VS. THE INFINITE BEING GOD.
> 
> >
> >"You should always go to church on Sunday because it makes God happy, and 
> >if
> >there's anybody you want to make happy, it's God.
> >
> >Don't skip church or do something you think will be more fun like going to
> >the beach. This is wrong. And besides the sun doesn't come out at the beach
> >until noon anyway."
> >
> CHURCH IS A SOCIAL GATHERING WITH THE ULTIMATE MIDDLE MAN(CHRIST). SO 
> WHATEVER REALTIONSHIPS YOU START IN CHURCH, THEY WILL ALWAYS BE TAINTED. YOU 
> ARE RELATING TO THOSE PEOPLE THROUGH A MYTHOLOGICAL HUMAN FIGURE(GOD) OF 
> YOUR OWN CREATION. YOUR GOD IS NOT THE SAME AS THEIR GOD SO BASICALLY IT IS 
> A FALSE RELATIONSHIP WITH EVERYONE YOU MEET AT CHURCH.
> 
> >"If you don't believe in God, besides being an atheist, you will be very
> >lonely, because your parents can't go everywhere with you, like to camp, 
> >but
> >God can. It is good to know He's around you when you're scared, in the dark
> >or when you can't swim and you get thrown into real deep water by big 
> >kids."
> 
> YOU MAY BE LONELY TO BEGIN WITH BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT ASSUMING THAT YOU KNOW 
> SOMEBODY BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT FEELING THE PRESENCE OF GOD FEELS LIKE. WHEN 
> IN TRUTH, NEITHER OF YOU KNOW ANYTHING OF THE SORT BECAUSE YOU BOTH ARE JUST 
> ASSUMING EVERYTHING AND ARE MOST LIKELY WRONG.  AND WHEN YOURE SCARED IN THE 
> DARK, YOU SEARCH FOR WAYS OUT OF THE DARK, THUS THE BASIC FOUNDATION OF THE 
> MIND, PSYCHIC COMMUNICATION TO RELAY TRUE THOUGHT TO EACH OTHER WITH NO 
> LANGUAGE AND THUS ENDING ALL SOCIAL BARRIERS CREATED BY THE CHURCH AND ALL 
> OTHER "CIVILIZED" THINGS.
> 
> >
> >"But...you shouldn't just always think of what God can do for you. I figure
> >God put me here and he can take me back anytime he pleases.
> 
> YOU ARE THE COMBINATION OF MATTER AND ENERGY. AND THIS ISNT THE ULTIMATE 
> REFUND LIFE. YOU DONT GET TAKEN BACK BY ANYTHING. IF YOU ARE GOING TO INVENT 
> CRAZY IDEALS LIKE AFTERLIFE, AT LEAST MAKE THEM INVOLVE YOUR PRESENT LIFE 
> WHILE YOU ARE ALIVE. LIVE FOR NOW. AND JUST DO IT FOR YOURSELF, AND WHEN YOU 
> SUCCEED, OTHERS WILL BENEFIT FROM WATCHING YOUR PATH AND LEARNING WHAT YOU 
> TOOK YOUR LIFE TO DISCOVER. HOW ABOUT THAT.
> 
> >
> >And...that's why I believe in God."
> >
> AND THAT IS WHY I BELIEVE IN MY DREAMS.

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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] RE: Mike, Todd & Holly maybe you'll learn a lesson

I personally can't get over the fact that Mr. X aka
CHOKKEN CAPS WONDER BOY felt the need to flame an 8 yr
old.

Thats a line that even I have never crossed on NER.


--- josh <stamina@ureach.com> wrote:
> I thought this was hilarious  - not the eighth grade
> essay (though I think it
> was most likely written by an 8 year old) - rather,
> your comments.  I think the
> one of the funniest things is when an uneducated
> person tries to counter
> philosophical argument with some pseudo-intellectual
> crap full of stereotypes,
> uniformed "truths", and other worthless drivel.  You
> would be surprised at the
> number of people on this list who consider
> themselves Christians.  
> 
> The existence of God cannot be proved or disproved. 
> That's why it's called
> "Faith".  It is a belief in the unseen or unknown. 
> And do you realise how many
> people you just offended on this list by calling
> them and their families
> close-minded, lacking in "vision" (nice vague word
> to throw around), warmongers,
> and shallow?  
> 
> For future reference, this is a rave list.  Keep
> your off-topic rants to
> yourself and your friends.  Unless they are halfway
> intelligent - but I don't
> see that as being an option in your case.
> 
> -jw
> "To be nobody-but-yourself -- in a world which is
> doing its best, night and day,
> to make you everybody else -- means to fight the
> hardest battle which any human
> being can fight; and never stop fighting."
>    e.e. cummings
> 
> 
> ________________________________________________
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> 
> ---- On Sun, 06 Jun 2004, Todd x
> (chokken@hotmail.com) wrote:
> 
> > heres a lesson for you bright minded folks out
> there who dont even have 
> > enough vision to know anything outside of your
> neighborhood. i will write 
> > comments in this brilliant christian essay. so
> read it again. all of the 
> > previous 8th grade essay has foward email marks in
> front of it (    >    )
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > >Subject: Mike, Todd & Holly maybe you'll learn a
> lesson
> > 
> > >
> > >This was written by an 8 year old, Danny Dutton
> of Chula Vista, CA, for his
> > >third grade homework assignment. The assignment
> was to explain God.
> > >
> > >I just wonder if any of us could do as well???
> > >
> > >EXPLANATION OF GOD
> > >
> > >"One of God's main jobs is making people. He
> makes them to replace the ones
> > >that die, so there will be enough people to take
> care of things on earth. 
> > >He
> > >doesn't make grownups, just babies. I think
> because they are smaller and
> > >easier to make. That way he doesn't have to take
> up his valuable time
> > >teaching them to talk and walk. He can just leave
> that to mothers and
> > >fathers."
> > 
> > GOD IS A MAN? GOD IS A HUMAN? GOD IS A THING THAT
> EXISTS LIKE ALL OTHER 
> > PEOPLE?
> > >
> > >"God's second most important job is listening to
> prayers. An awful lot of
> > >this goes on, since some people, like preachers
> and things, pray at times
> > >beside bedtime. God doesn't have time to listen
> to the radio or TV because
> > >of this. Because he hears everything, there must
> be a terrible lot of noise
> > >in his ears, unless he has thought of a way to
> turn it off."
> > 
> > GOD SOUNDS LIKE A HUMAN TO ME. STORIES CHANGE OVER
> TIME. ESPECIALLY TWO 
> > THOUSAND YEARS THROUGH MANY DIFFERENT LANGUAGES,
> GOD COULD HAVE BEEN A 
> > PERSON WHO DISCOVERED WHAT I AM LOOKING FOR IN
> LIFE. ULTIMATE POWER THROUGH 
> > THE MIND.
> > >
> > >"God sees everything and hears everything and is
> everywhere which keeps Him
> > >pretty busy. So you shouldn't go wasting his time
> by going over your mom 
> > >and
> > >dad's head asking for something they said you
> couldn't have."
> > >
> > YOU CAN WASTE GOD'S TIME? THE INFINITE BEING IS
> RULED BY TIME? SOUNDS BOGUS.
> > 
> > >"Atheists are people who don't believe in God. I
> don't think there are any
> > >in Chula Vista. At least there aren't any who
> come to our church."
> > >
> > THIS SHOWS THE EXTENT OF THE AVERAGE CHRISTIANS
> INTELLECTUAL CAPACITY. THEIR 
> > OWN NEIGHBORHOOD. ANYONE WHO DOESNT GO TO CHURCH
> IS A SINNER. HOW ABOUT 
> > SINCE CHRISTIANITY CLOSES YOUR EYES TO SO MUCH OF
> THE WORLD, YOU TAKE IT 
> > UPON YOURSELF AND DISCOVER THAT THE "EVIL" POWER
> THAT LIES WITHIN YOU IS 
> > ACTUALLY THE POWER TO DO GOOD AND BREAK OTHERS
> FREE FROM THE SATANIC BONDS 
> > OF THE CHRISTIANITY YOU PRACTICE SINCE IF YOU FLIP
> FLOP CHRISTIANITY AND 
> > SATANISM YOU'LL FIND THAT THERE IS MORE PEACE
> AMONG SATANISTS WHO BASK IN 
> > THE RADIANCE OF THEMSELVES RATHER THAN THE WARS
> THAT ARE STARTED BY THE 
> > CHRISTIANS WHO THINK ALL THE NON BELIVERS ARE THE
> ENEMY. CHURCH CHRISTIANITY 
> > WAS CREATED BY THE DEVIL TO MAKE YOU WEAK AND
> CLOSED MINDED. SATANISM WAS 
> > TITLED THAT WAY BY SATAN SO YOU FEAR YOUR TRUE
> POTENTIAL AND YOU WILL REMAIN 
> > WEAK.
> > 
> > 
> > >"Jesus is God's Son. He used to do all the hard
> work like walking on water
> > >and performing miracles and trying to teach the
> people who didn't want to
> > >learn about God. They finally got tired of him
> preaching to them and they
> > >crucified him. But he was good and kind, like his
> father, and he told his
> > >father that they didn't know what they were doing
> and to forgive them and
> > >God said O.K."
> > >
> > 
> > GOD SPEAKS ENGLISH. BLA BLA BLA.
> > 
> > 
> > >"His dad (God) appreciated everything that he had
> done and all his hard 
> > >work
> > >on earth so he told him he didn't have to go out
> on the road anymore. He
> > >could stay in heaven. So he did. And now he helps
> his dad out by listening
> > >to prayers and seeing things which are important
> for God to take care of 
> > >and
> > >which ones he can take care of himself without
> having to bother God. Like a
> > >secretary, only more important."
> > >
> > GOD HAS A SON. JUST LIKE A HUMAN CHILD. WHAT A
> CONCEPT.
> > 
> > >"You can pray anytime you want and they are sure
> to help you because they
> > >got it worked out so one of them is on duty all
> the time."
> > 
> > AGAIN WITH THE TIME CONCEPT VS. THE INFINITE BEING
> GOD.
> > 
> > >
> > >"You should always go to church on Sunday because
> it makes God happy, and 
> > >if
> > >there's anybody you want to make happy, it's God.
> > >
> > >Don't skip church or do something you think will
> be more fun like going to
> > >the beach. This is wrong. And besides the sun
> doesn't come out at the beach
> > >until noon anyway."
> > >
> 
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looks like this list is younger than i thought.  hey- anyone wanna trade my
Sipps for  a nice  Hawiian Punch?


t-bone

Quoting josh <stamina@ureach.com>:

> I thought this was hilarious  - not the eighth grade essay (though I think it
> was most likely written by an 8 year old) - rather, your comments.

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--- josh <stamina@ureach.com> wrote:

> you would be surprised at the
> number of people on this list who consider themselves Christians.  

Or some of us who actually went as far as being ordained.

> For future reference, this is a rave list.  Keep your off-topic rants to
> yourself and your friends.  Unless they are halfway intelligent - but I don't
> see that as being an option in your case.

Thank you for this, I been so busy assimilating into Pennsylvania I have
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--- Frank Scott <frank_i_s@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I personally can't get over the fact that Mr. X aka
> CHOKKEN CAPS WONDER BOY felt the need to flame an 8 yr
> old.
> 
> Thats a line that even I have never crossed on NER.
>

And we know how low you have gone.. which makes their actions even more sad =p



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hehehehe....I was just thinking the same thing, I must've deleted the original post, bc I just read it when jw replied.
 
To think, this kid thinks he's incredibly intelligent, so much smarter than people on this list, yet replys to an _eighth grader_!!  Now, I'm not sure, but I am assuming that this kid is definately past the ripe ol' age of 13...so whats the deal with the attack on a youngin?  And maybe I missed more than I thought but was this eighth grader posting his god essay on the list?  If not, where the hell did this come from?
 
I'm utterly confused now...Todd...got an explanation for your wacked out post?  Did you mistake NERaves with the NE Catholic Association?  What drugs were you on when you decided that was an educated rant?
 
k.

Frank Scott <frank_i_s@yahoo.com> wrote:
I personally can't get over the fact that Mr. X aka
CHOKKEN CAPS WONDER BOY felt the need to flame an 8 yr
old.

Thats a line that even I have never crossed on NER.


--- josh wrote:
> I thought this was hilarious - not the eighth grade
> essay (though I think it
> was most likely written by an 8 year old) - rather,
> your comments. I think the
> one of the funniest things is when an uneducated
> person tries to counter
> philosophical argument with some pseudo-intellectual
> crap full of stereotypes,
> uniformed "truths", and other worthless drivel. You
> would be surprised at the
> number of people on this list who consider
> themselves Christians. 
> 
> The existence of God cannot be proved or disproved. 
> That's why it's called
> "Faith". It is a belief in the unseen or unknown. 
> And do you realise how many
> people you just offended on this list by calling
> them and their families
> close-minded, lacking in "vision" (nice vague word
> to throw around), warmongers,
> and shallow? 
> 
> For future reference, this is a rave list. Keep
> your off-topic rants to
> yourself and your friends. Unless they are halfway
> intelligent - but I don't
> see that as being an option in your case.
> 
> -jw
> "To be nobody-but-yourself -- in a world which is
> doing its best, night and day,
> to make you everybody else -- means to fight the
> hardest battle which any human
> being can fight; and never stop fighting."
> e.e. cummings
> 
> 
> ________________________________________________
> Get your own "800" number
> Voicemail, fax, email, and a lot more
> http://www.ureach.com/reg/tag
> 
> 
> ---- On Sun, 06 Jun 2004, Todd x
> (chokken@hotmail.com) wrote:
> 
> > heres a lesson for you bright minded folks out
> there who dont even have 
> > enough vision to know anything outside of your
> neighborhood. i will write 
> > comments in this brilliant christian essay. so
> read it again. all of the 
> > previous 8th grade essay has foward email marks in
> front of it ( > )
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > >Subject: Mike, Todd & Holly maybe you'll learn a
> lesson
> > 
> > >
> > >This was written by an 8 year old, Danny Dutton
> of Chula Vista, CA, for his
> > >third grade homework assignment. The assignment
> was to explain God.
> > >
> > >I just wonder if any of us could do as well???
> > >
> > >EXPLANATION OF GOD
> > >
> > >"One of God's main jobs is making people. He
> makes them to replace the ones
> > >that die, so there will be enough people to take
> care of things on earth. 
> > >He
> > >doesn't make grownups, just babies. I think
> because they are smaller and
> > >easier to make. That way he doesn't have to take
> up his valuable time
> > >teaching them to talk and walk. He can just leave
> that to mothers and
> > >fathers."
> > 
> > GOD IS A MAN? GOD IS A HUMAN? GOD IS A THING THAT
> EXISTS LIKE ALL OTHER 
> > PEOPLE?
> > >
> > >"God's second most important job is listening to
> prayers. An awful lot of
> > >this goes on, since some people, like preachers
> and things, pray at times
> > >beside bedtime. God doesn't have time to listen
> to the radio or TV because
> > >of this. Because he hears everything, there must
> be a terrible lot of noise
> > >in his ears, unless he has thought of a way to
> turn it off."
> > 
> > GOD SOUNDS LIKE A HUMAN TO ME. STORIES CHANGE OVER
> TIME. ESPECIALLY TWO 
> > THOUSAND YEARS THROUGH MANY DIFFERENT LANGUAGES,
> GOD COULD HAVE BEEN A 
> > PERSON WHO DISCOVERED WHAT I AM LOOKING FOR IN
> LIFE. ULTIMATE POWER THROUGH 
> > THE MIND.
> > >
> > >"God sees everything and hears everything and is
> everywhere which keeps Him
> > >pretty busy. So you shouldn't go wasting his time
> by going over your mom 
> > >and
> > >dad's head asking for something they said you
> couldn't have."
> > >
> > YOU CAN WASTE GOD'S TIME? THE INFINITE BEING IS
> RULED BY TIME? SOUNDS BOGUS.
> > 
> > >"Atheists are people who don't believe in God. I
> don't think there are any
> > >in Chula Vista. At least there aren't any who
> come to our church."
> > >
> > THIS SHOWS THE EXTENT OF THE AVERAGE CHRISTIANS
> INTELLECTUAL CAPACITY. THEIR 
> > OWN NEIGHBORHOOD. ANYONE WHO DOESNT GO TO CHURCH
> IS A SINNER. HOW ABOUT 
> > SINCE CHRISTIANITY CLOSES YOUR EYES TO SO MUCH OF
> THE WORLD, YOU TAKE IT 
> > UPON YOURSELF AND DISCOVER THAT THE "EVIL" POWER
> THAT LIES WITHIN YOU IS 
> > ACTUALLY THE POWER TO DO GOOD AND BREAK OTHERS
> FREE FROM THE SATANIC BONDS 
> > OF THE CHRISTIANITY YOU PRACTICE SINCE IF YOU FLIP
> FLOP CHRISTIANITY AND 
> > SATANISM YOU'LL FIND THAT THERE IS MORE PEACE
> AMONG SATANISTS WHO BASK IN 
> > THE RADIANCE OF THEMSELVES RATHER THAN THE WARS
> THAT ARE STARTED BY THE 
> > CHRISTIANS WHO THINK ALL THE NON BELIVERS ARE THE
> ENEMY. CHURCH CHRISTIANITY 
> > WAS CREATED BY THE DEVIL TO MAKE YOU WEAK AND
> CLOSED MINDED. SATANISM WAS 
> > TITLED THAT WAY BY SATAN SO YOU FEAR YOUR TRUE
> POTENTIAL AND YOU WILL REMAIN 
> > WEAK.
> > 
> > 
> > >"Jesus is God's Son. He used to do all the hard
> work like walking on water
> > >and performing miracles and trying to teach the
> people who didn't want to
> > >learn about God. They finally got tired of him
> preaching to them and they
> > >crucified him. But he was good and kind, like his
> father, and he told his
> > >father that they didn't know what they were doing
> and to forgive them and
> > >God said O.K."
> > >
> > 
> > GOD SPEAKS ENGLISH. BLA BLA BLA.
> > 
> > 
> > >"His dad (God) appreciated everything that he had
> done and all his hard 
> > >work
> > >on earth so he told him he didn't have to go out
> on the road anymore. He
> > >could stay in heaven. So he did. And now he helps
> his dad out by listening
> > >to prayers and seeing things which are important
> for God to take care of 
> > >and
> > >which ones he can take care of himself without
> having to bother God. Like a
> > >secretary, only more important."
> > >
> > GOD HAS A SON. JUST LIKE A HUMAN CHILD. WHAT A
> CONCEPT.
> > 
> > >"You can pray anytime you want and they are sure
> to help you because they
> > >got it worked out so one of them is on duty all
> the time."
> > 
> > AGAIN WITH THE TIME CONCEPT VS. THE INFINITE BEING
> GOD.
> > 
> > >
> > >"You should always go to church on Sunday because
> it makes God happy, and 
> > >if
> > >there's anybody you want to make happy, it's God.
> > >
> > >Don't skip church or do something you think will
> be more fun like going to
> > >the beach. This is wrong. And besides the sun
> doesn't come out at the beach
> > >until noon anyway."
> > >
> 
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Quoting kelly d <supapimpny@yahoo.com>:

>  And maybe I missed more
> than I thought but was this eighth grader posting his god essay on the list?
> If not, where the hell did this come from?

     It's one of those cute "chicken soup for the sucker" spams that have been
popular since the whole "under God" controversy with the pledge of allegiance
became a big deal on the net.  Done to show that even little kids are able to
grasp a larger concept that your common atheist or believer in the Constitution
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I've gotten a number of spams with the same banter minus the reponse in all
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---- On Wed, 9 Jun 2004, kelly d (supapimpny@yahoo.com) wrote:

> hehehehe....I was just thinking the same thing, I must've deleted the original
post, bc I just read
> it when jw replied.
>  
> To think, this kid thinks he's incredibly intelligent, so much smarter than
people on this list, yet
> replys to an _eighth grader_!!  Now, I'm not sure, but I am assuming that this
kid is definately past
> the ripe ol' age of 13...so whats the deal with the attack on a youngin?  And
maybe I missed more
> than I thought but was this eighth grader posting his god essay on the list? 
If not, where the hell
> did this come from?
>  
> I'm utterly confused now...Todd...got an explanation for your wacked out post?
 Did you mistake
> NERaves with the NE Catholic Association?  What drugs were you on when you
decided that was an
> educated rant?



I think he was trying to show us all how brilliant he is.  And what better way
to do that than to bash religion in a response to a child and then post said
response on a rave list.  Of course, we can all see that he succeeded.  

Bah, he's an idiot - I don't even feel like discussing this anymore.  How stupid
must one be to actually make ridiculing him boring?  I didn't think there was
such a level, but, amazingly, here it is.

-jw
"To be nobody-but-yourself -- in a world which is doing its best, night and day,
to make you everybody else -- means to fight the hardest battle which any human
being can fight; and never stop fighting."
   e.e. cummings


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Subject: [ne-raves] Laibach electro?

Someone name dropped Laibach in an Amazon review which surprised me
because I didn't even know they were around anymore. They've got this
incredibly evil, sludgy and groovy sounding electro track on their new
album WAT called "Du Bist Unser". The rest sounds pretty Rammsteinish and
it should be noted that Rammstein actually bit Laibach's sound from nearly
20 years ago. Some other pretty cool tracks you might like if you have
some roots in industrial and newbeat. Anyone have other suggestions for
stuff like this? I think I want to start spinning this stuff out but not
at goth clubs.

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--- Jasper Lin <jasper@hyperreal.org> wrote:
> Someone name dropped Laibach in an Amazon review which surprised me
> because I didn't even know they were around anymore. They've got this
> incredibly evil, sludgy and groovy sounding electro track on their new
> album WAT called "Du Bist Unser". The rest sounds pretty Rammsteinish and
> it should be noted that Rammstein actually bit Laibach's sound from nearly
> 20 years ago. Some other pretty cool tracks you might like if you have
> some roots in industrial and newbeat. Anyone have other suggestions for
> stuff like this? I think I want to start spinning this stuff out but not
> at goth clubs.

Nitzer Ebb.

Dan Physics is known to drop alot of this in his sets, and latley adam x has
gotten on that tip too. but that aside, they are great, and alot of there stuff
 mixes well with techno and newbeat. 





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Subject: [ne-raves] tonite :: NO HATERS NEED APPLY :: ALIAS@Nation : DnB+Breaks :
	OPEN BAR


* Get on the $4 VIP list! -- info at bottom of this email...
* IF YOU ALREADY EMAILED ME YOUR REDUCED LIST, I DID RECEIVE IT.  IF YOU AR=
E
A DJ on this night PLEASE SEND YOUR LISTS ASAP...


ALIAS Thursdays | Drum =8Cn=B9 Bass & Breaks | upstairs lounge Nation-DC
=20


Thursday, 06.10.04 ::   ALIAS @NATION + Alchemy

no hATERS NEED APPLY!

Admission ::=20

* 2 for 1 admission  9 p.m. - 10 p.m.
* $7 (usually) after 10 p.m.
* $4 (always) vip list after 10 p.m.
* Email [alias_agent_johntab@mac.com] to get on the $4 vip list! see bottom
of this email for more details
=20
OPEN BAR ::  9 p.m. - 10 p.m. + $5 pitchers all night!
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* 09:00-11:00   wickity vs. not applicable [breaks]
* 11:00 - 12:15   deinfamous vs. phil scott [drum=B9n=B9bass]
* 12:15 -01:30   light touch vs. joe nice [uk dubstep/grime/post-garage]
* 01:30-02:45   illeffect [drum=B9n=B9bass]

Check to see who=B9s going to ALIAS this week:

http://www.buzzlife.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3D37778

Check to see what people said about ALIAS last week:

http://www.buzzlife.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3D37407


Be sure to check out CUBIK@NATION every Friday.

Open Bar:  9 p.m. - 10 p.m.

Upcoming Lineups:

06.11.04:  Richie Hawtin + Magda
06.18.04:  Sander Kleinenberg + Kazell
06.25.04:  Tiesto + Roman Bath Foam Party
07.02.04:  FIRECRACKER 4:  Danny Howells + Fresh (Bad Company) + DJ SS +
APHRODITE (just added!!!)
07.09.04:  TBA
07.16.04:  Astral Projection (live psytrance) + Jon =8C00=B9 Fleming
07.23.04:  Christmas in July with Miss Kittin + John Selway

For full details:  http://www.buzzlife.com


VIP Reduced List:  Email me by 6:30 p.m. each Thursday with an unlimited
list of you and your friends=B9 full names: [alias_agent_johntab@mac.com ]
When you arrive at ALIAS, make sure your name is crossed off the $4 list
after you pay.
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Af this point, you are automatically on the C=FCBIK/BUZZLIFE reduced list [$5
off the full price] the next night. If you sign up for the ALIAS list, but
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Subject: [ne-raves] "Payback"... A benefit Party for DJ DB @ Avalon on July 29th (fwd)


Saw this on another list.

KeNNy!

aim: munkeybuttt
yahoo: jungleboogiemonster
http://ghetto.hjsoft.com
<Insert humorous and witty quote here>


Jason Jinx and friends present...
PAYBACK
... an old skool jam!

Josh Wink
Junior Sanchez
AK-1200
DJ Dara
Scott Hardkiss
Dave Ralph
DB
Stakka
Nigel Richards
Odi
Mr Kleen
Mojolators
Jason Jinx
plus a special surprise guest...

Thursday July 29 2004
10:00 - 4:00 @ Avalon 662 6th Ave
$7 Advance, $10 at the door
18 to enter, 21 to drink.
Advance tickets available at Breakbeat Science and
Satellite Records or log on to
http://www.jasonjinx.com/payback

A party to help DB& his family recover the money they
lost throwing "NASA REWIND".  For the full story go to
http://www.knottyknotty.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=22569

Jason "Jinx" Zambito / Club Recordings
128 Lafayette Ave. Suite #2
Brooklyn, NY 11238 (USA)
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Subject: [ne-raves] (DC) TONIGHT :: SUPERSTAR DJ KEOKI @ Club 5 :: Free Entry . Open Bar

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LUSH PROMOTIONS present
Pearl @ Club Five 

21+ . No Dress Code . $10 Admission All Night . Doors 10pm to 5am


:: FRIDAY, JUNE 11th ::


Main Room

SUPERSTAR DJ KEOKI - TECHNO

with Carl Michaels

 
Rooftop

DJ OSO-FRESH - HIP HOP & PARTY CLASSICS


:: Join (L)us(H) early for OPEN BAR -- 10PM - 11PM ::


Email LUSHPROMO@AOL.COM for FREE ENTRY b4 Midnight
-- Please include each persons full name & email address
-- All requests must be received by 8:00pm on Friday


For Table Reservations: Call ROHAN 202.903.7186

______________

.: DEEJAY BIOS :.

SUPERSTAR DJ KEOKI
TECHNO


Ten years before Ecstacy made it's way to the cover of Time, Keoki was 
preaching a new, dark brand of techno trance to legions of highly chromatic club 
kids in New York's legendary Limelight. He was the prototypical DJ bad boy, 
cutting his teeth at Disco 2000, the night club where unsupervised drug use was the 
norm and patrons routinely stripped naked for a 3 a.m. bacchanalian ritual. 
This was the world before Giuliani broke the back of Peter Gatien's club empire 
and when GHB, ketamine and rohypnol were off the Drug Enforcement 
Administration's radar. Keoki may not have been the ringleader of the nocturnal freak 
fest, but as the club's resident DJ and soon-to-be-infamous "king of the club 
kids" Michael Alig's roomate (immortalized in the recent movie, PARTY MONSTER), 
he was definitely the star.

But the El Salvadorian-born & Hawaiian-raised Keoki says he doesn't want to 
live off the macabre celebrity that Alig's gruesome murder of a New York drug 
dealer affords him. Nor has he become a tell-all tabloid caricature, like much 
of his club-kid fraternity who appeared on late-'90's Geraldo, Jenny Jones & 
Ricki Lake shows as frequently as mullet haircuts. He recently turned down 
appearances on E! Entertainment Television & The Howard Stern Show, much to his 
label's dismay. 

Instead, Keoki Franconi would love you to focus on his "near" sobriety, PLUR 
and his latest CD, where he sings, among other things, a techno cover version 
of Frankie Goes To Hollywood's "Relax." Having sold over 580,000 records and 
mix CD's, he sees his recent years and new album Jealousy as a move toward the 
center of American dance music's dramatic rise. 

A movement that he helped start...

CARL MICHAELS
FUNKY TECH HOUSE

Carl Michaels is widely known as a pioneer in the East Coast house music 
genre. He remains a guiding force in keeping house sound alive and growing with 
mix compilations, as well as running 611 Records' house sublabel Society Hill 
Recordings.  Look for future
productions as he continues to push the envelope with his funky, techy sound. 

DJ OSO-FRESH (ROOF TOP PARTY)
HIP HOP & PARTY CLASSICS


Come on now!!! No late night old school session would be complete without 
POLLEN RESIDENT, and one of the original DC Hip Hop DJ's... OSOFRESH. This guy is 
so versatile, it amazes us all. He can flip tempos and vibes like no other. 
DJ's... Take Notes... He can rock whatever he wants, anytime he wants.

Give it up for a true DC Pioneer.

______________


Experience the night on CLUB FIVE's Full Bass Heavy EAW Avalon Sound system!!

Club Five is a spacious 3 level club offering a variety of moods. Some of the 
club's features include 3 fully stocked large bars, lounge areas, 
state-of-the-art sound and lighting systems, long-back sofas, coat check, and a rooftop 
patio.

21+ . No Dress Code . $10 admission . Doors 10 to 5

Club Five: 1214 B 18th Street NW, WDC

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Forwarded from another list...make a note if you were planning on going to see Richie Hawtin at Volume.

I haven't been to Volume yet, but Sullivan Room is a TINY club... (to the promoter:) How do you plan on fitting all those people into Sullivan?

K.

viktor mizo <viktor_mizo@yahoo.com> wrote: 
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 10:31:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: viktor mizo 
To: nyc-raves@hyperreal.org
Subject: [nyc-raves] Richie Hawtin - Sat, June 12 - NYC - NEW Location

OK everybody, heres the dealio.....

Volume offically informed us on Thursday that the
their permits to operate the space the night of the
12th have been denied. Prior to this they were highly
confident that they would have the paperwork in order
to do the 12th.

After exploring several options including the Maritime
Hotel, Spirit, and several other venues in manhattan
and brooklyn, its been decided by all involved to move
the party to the Sullivan Room. Although a few of the
other venues seemed very promising, we wanted to use a
space that can both go past 4am, and where the volume
level would not be restricted, and make it easier to
move the whole operation.

All Advanced tickets will get priority admission to
the Sullivan Room, and anyone wishing a refund of
their advanced tickets can get their full ticket price
+ record store service charge refunded at the door.
Tickets can also be refunded at the place of purchase
until 6pm wednesday. Any questions specifically
regarding ticket refunds should be addressed to
ticketrefund@tronictreatment.net.

Additional sound will be added. All artists are
confirmed. After 2am we will also open the Lions den,
the upstairs of the sullivan room, connected by the
stairs at the back of the venue. 

Saturday June 12 2004: 8pm - 6am+ 21+
Sullivan Room 218 
Sullivan Street btwn bleeker and west 3rd

Richie Hawtin
Matthew Jonson [live]
Magda
Clark Warner
Slacknoise


		
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Subject: [ne-raves] NEDMC News***Dj Swamp/New Panel/Exhibit Specials***


***The National Electronic Dance Music Conference***

***News***


Dj Swamp to lead the Dj Techniques:Turntablism seminar:

      We are proud to announce that Dj Swamp will be leading our Turntablist
seminar. For those of you who haven't heard of him, please visit
http://www.djswamp.com.

New panel added:

      We have added a panel due to popular request. The panel is "Women in
the industry" and will deal with womens issues in the industry as well as
showcase resources for women Dj's. Will feature members of Shejay.net

Registration specials announced:

      We have decided to hold registration specials from now until the end
of June, available through online ordering ONLY. The specials are as
follows:

Regular Registration-regular price, $275, special price $250
Economy Registration-Regular price, $150, special price $125
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ITS NOT FLAMING AN 8 YEAR OLD. ITS THE WHOLE CONCEPT OF RIGHT AND WRONG. AND 
THE FACT REMAINS. CHRISTIANS START THE WARS. TRUE SATANISTS DONT, SO I 
PROPOSE TO YOU ALL THAT THE WHOLE SYSTEM IS BACKWARDS. AND FOR YOU ATHEIST 
BASHERS OUT THERE, I AM NOT AN ATHEIST. I BELIEVE IN THE FACT THAT THIS IS A 
WORLD OF MY PERSONAL PERCEPTION NO ONE ELSE'S THEREFORE I CREATED EVERYTHING 
I KNOW INSIDE MY HEAD, NOT GOD'S OR ANYONE ELSE'S. ME. I BELIEVE THAT IF I 
WORK FOR SOMETHING, I WILL GET IT. HAVING FAITH IN SOME FLAGRANT IDEALISTIC 
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Quoting Todd x <chokken@hotmail.com>:

> READ THAT TWICE. AND THEN CRITICISE IT.

    Ok.  Are you using an old Commodore system as your terminal to the internet?
 If not, there is usually a key that says "Caps Lock" on the left hand side of
your keyboard (often just above the shift key).  Try turning it off.  Or are
you one of those strange fools who thinks your point comes across better WHEN
YOU TYPE LIKE THIS THE WHOLE TIME? :p

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Todd x wrote:
> ITS NOT FLAMING AN 8 YEAR OLD. ITS THE WHOLE CONCEPT OF RIGHT AND WRONG. 
> AND THE FACT REMAINS. CHRISTIANS START THE WARS. TRUE SATANISTS DONT, SO 
> I PROPOSE TO YOU ALL THAT THE WHOLE SYSTEM IS BACKWARDS. AND FOR YOU 
> ATHEIST BASHERS OUT THERE, I AM NOT AN ATHEIST. I BELIEVE IN THE FACT 
> THAT THIS IS A WORLD OF MY PERSONAL PERCEPTION NO ONE ELSE'S THEREFORE I 
> CREATED EVERYTHING I KNOW INSIDE MY HEAD, NOT GOD'S OR ANYONE ELSE'S. 
> ME. I BELIEVE THAT IF I WORK FOR SOMETHING, I WILL GET IT. HAVING FAITH 
> IN SOME FLAGRANT IDEALISTIC MAN MADE CONCEPT WILL NOT. READ THAT TWICE. 
> AND THEN CRITICISE IT.

Must suck to not control your mind - or the world's perception that
crappy sentences typed in all caps typically hurt your case. Of course,
once you're at rock bottom...

Certainly, if everybody around was a figment of my imagination... well,
hehe... (yeah, he's trying for something else, but I just don't care.
It's one big logic bomb based around the 8 year old's essay.)

Can we please stop seeing this crap on the rave list now? I want party
info! Give me raves in open fields!

-Jeff
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--- Todd x <chokken@hotmail.com> wrote:
> ITS NOT FLAMING AN 8 YEAR OLD. 

Regardless of the text preceeding it, you criticized
the essay of an 8 yr old man.  Must be hard to tear
down the conceptual framework of a piece of literature
coming from some kid who hasnt even had the time to
truly develop a conceptualization of his world.  Do
you understand that, at 8 yrs old, most psychological
theorists dont beleive children even have a full
framework of morality yet, let alone something as
esoteric as "religion"?  Check out some Kohlberg
sometime Mr I AM NOT AN ATHEIST I AM A DREAM MASTUR.  

>ITS THE WHOLE CONCEPT
> OF RIGHT AND WRONG. 

If you want to attack the person who used this child's
essay, thats fine.  Crucifying (*slaps knee*) the
child in the name of your own religious beleifs though
is garbage.  If your parents went to church, they
probably took you to church, and at 8 yrs old, not yet
having had the pleasure (if thats what you want to
call it) of reading any Sartre or Nietzsche, you might
write the same essay, my friend.

I mean, personally, I read Being and Nothingness at 5
and dismissed as a warm pile of trite contemptuous
bullshit, but most people arent at that level.

> AND FOR YOU ATHEIST 
> BASHERS OUT THERE, I AM NOT AN ATHEIST. 

Damn straight man.  r34l ath31s+s +yp3 1|\| 1337
sp34|<.  POSERS USE CAPS.

frank


	
		
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Subject: [ne-raves] final words of wisdom

peace   (within self, it then branches out to others)
love (for not just the opposite sex, and non-sexual)
power(to accomplish what you want)
energy(physical /mental /chi ?)


kind of like a tai chi martial artist hippie who does no drugs. and still 
goes to dance parties.
these things are the existential ladder of existence. (redundant) without 
one of them, the others suffer. without equality and harmony, they are all 
imbalanced. christianity denies one of them. thus causing personal problems. 
priesthood denies another one of them, thus causing child molestation. see 
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Quoting Todd x <chokken@hotmail.com>:

> christianity denies one of them. thus causing personal problems.
> priesthood denies another one of them, thus causing child molestation. see
> if you can guess which ones

    I'm still waiting for your first words of wisdom.  I imagine foolish
stereotypes based on your own personal issues would probably conflict with your
simple 4 point plan to personal salvation too, no?

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Subject: [ne-raves] Creative in the studio market?


Maybe not the pro market but it looks like they are trying to go beyond 
mp3s and gaming with this recent release.

http://www6.tomshardware.com/consumer/20040611/index.html

Any thoughts on this?  The low end package worth $200?  Good for a 
beginner?

KeNNy!

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Sup y'all!

Tune in to the show tonight, 7pm to 12am+ (est) to catch ODJ & Jerel, as
well as some special guests, rip it the fuck up live!

Lineup hasn't quite solidified yet, but it'll be good no doubt.

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Subject: Re: Re: [ne-raves] RE: Mike, Todd & Holly maybe you'll learn a lesson

Wow, I don't know what to say to that.  Considering I just spent about seven
hours in the car, I don't have the energy to say much - even if I wanted to.  

Nowhere did I mention anything about myself personally.  There's a reason for
that:  I don't discuss my religion/faith/spirituality or politics on a RAVE LIST
(caps added for emphasis).  

Aside from that, I'm letting you dig your own grave.  I'm just lending you a
bigger shovel :)

-jw
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to make you everybody else -- means to fight the hardest battle which any human
being can fight; and never stop fighting."
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---- On Fri, 11 Jun 2004, Todd x (chokken@hotmail.com) wrote:
 
"<my .sig here>"

> QUOTE.... YOU. THINK ABOUT IT. IF YOU COULDNT FATHOM THE DEPTH OF MY ESSAY 
> PERHAPS YOU OUGHT TO READ IT SIX MORE TIMES AND HALF WAY THROUGH THE SEVENTH 
> TIME YOU MIGHT BEGIN TO CLARIFY CERTAIN DELUSIONS THAT YOU HOLD YOURSELF TO. 
> FAITH? WHO TOLD YOU TO PICK THAT WAY OF LIFE.
> 
> 
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ok, i've been trying to be quiet, but this:

IF YOU COULDNT FATHOM THE DEPTH OF MY ESSAY PERHAPS YOU OUGHT TO READ IT SIX
MORE TIMES AND HALF WAY THROUGH THE SEVENTH TIME YOU MIGHT BEGIN TO CLARIFY
CERTAIN DELUSIONS THAT YOU HOLD YOURSELF TO.

has had me laughing for days.  Never end a sentence in a preposition. Try some
punctuation too. CAPSLOCK has been adequately covered. Jeez man, even the 8th
GRADER (not 8 year old for you all paying attention) has outschooled you on so
many levels, you should be incredibly embarrassed.

> > FAITH? WHO TOLD YOU TO PICK THAT WAY OF LIFE.

encountering such PLURRIFIC attitudes as ones you espouse. If social darwinism
held any water you'd have been ashes years ago.  You can't even pick apart an
essay on FAITH with Peace, Love, Unity, or Respect? boo!

t-bone

hey- any cats like hardcore here? killer party coming up this week in jersey. 
if anyone cares, i'll share the info.

________________________________________________
"Leadership means not giving orders to others, but giving of yourself."
- East African Tribal Proverb

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Subject: [ne-raves] Welcome to Violence- Friday, june 18

Well, I'm not waiting for anyone to ask. Here ya go!

Huzzah!  Cheap hardcore/breakcore party this week in New Jersey, U.S.!
Featuring musicians from coast to coast and from across the pond.  If it got any
better than this, we'd have to stop calling Earth the REAL hell ;)  There is a
snazzy flyer designed by The Notorious 216 to go along with this, but here's
the info in minimized storage space:

          ~WELCOME TO VIOLENCE~

OPTIC - Dyslexic Response / San Fransisco, CA

SOCIETY CLEANERS - Isolate Records / Milwaukee, WI

CAPSLOCK - CAPSLOCK.NU / Hillegome, Holland

ATOMLY - Atomiq Records / Chicago, IL

TOCSIN- Industrial Strength / New Jersey

DIGIT216 - Digit216.com / NYC/Wrong Island


Place:
the clinic

193 hamilton st
new brunswick nj, 08901

Doors Wide Open:
8pm

Beer:
yes! It helps to byob if you stay late, so pack right for oodles of fun!

t-bone

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Subject: [ne-raves] 06.17 :: CHINESE WHISPERS :: ALIAS@Nation : DnB+Breaks : OPEN BAR


* GET ON THE $4 VIP LIST! -- INFO AT BOTTOM OF THIS EMAIL...
* IF YOU ALREADY EMAILED ME YOUR REDUCED LIST, I DID RECEIVE IT.  IF YOU AR=
E
A DJ on this night PLEASE SEND YOUR LISTS ASAP...


ALIAS Thursdays | Drum =8Cn=B9 Bass & Breaks | upstairs lounge Nation-DC
=20


Thursday, 06.17.04 ::   ALIAS @NATION + Alchemy

chinese whispers

The =8Cphenomenon=B9 known as Chinese Whispers stems from the game of the same
name. When passing information from one party to another (usually verbally)
the facts and theme often become distorted. A common example of this is see=
n
in rumors and gossip. Likewise, information passed by email is often
altered, as is information that is overheard by people. Safety warnings can
turn into scares, jokes into facts and drama queens into haters...

Admission ::=20

* 2 for 1 admission  9 p.m. - 10 p.m.
* $7 (usually) after 10 p.m.
* $4 (always) vip list after 10 p.m.
* Email [alias_agent_johntab@mac.com] to get on the $4 vip list! see bottom
of this email for more details
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OPEN BAR ::  9 p.m. - 10 p.m. + $5 pitchers all night!
=20
* 09:00-11:00   Plan B [drum=B9n=B9bass]
* 11:00 - 12:15   Psykofly vs. F8 [drum=B9n=B9bass]
* 12:15 -01:30   Lantern vs. virtue [breaks]
* 01:30-02:45   Esfand [drum=B9n=B9bass]

Check to see who=B9s going to ALIAS this week:

http://www.buzzlife.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3D37991

Check to see what people said about ALIAS last week:

http://www.buzzlife.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3D37778


Be sure to check out CUBIK@NATION every Friday.

Open Bar:  9 p.m. - 10 p.m.

Upcoming Lineups:

06.18.04:  Sander Kleinenberg + Kazell
06.25.04:  Tiesto + Roman Bath Foam Party
07.02.04:  FIRECRACKER 4:  Danny Howells + Fresh (Bad Company) + DJ SS +
APHRODITE (just added!!!)
07.09.04:  TBA
07.16.04:  Astral Projection (live psytrance) + Jon =8C00=B9 Fleming
07.23.04:  Christmas in July with Miss Kittin + John Selway

For full details:  http://www.buzzlife.com


VIP Reduced List:  Email me by 6:30 p.m. each Thursday with an unlimited
list of you and your friends=B9 full names: [alias_agent_johntab@mac.com ]
When you arrive at ALIAS, make sure your name is crossed off the $4 list
after you pay.
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off the full price] the next night. If you sign up for the ALIAS list, but
don=B9t attend, you will NOT be on the C=FCBIK/BUZZLIFE reduced list the next
night. THIS OFFER IS ONLY GOOD IF YOU ATTEND BOTH ALIAS + CUBIK!
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Subject: [ne-raves] LI Weekly Starting 6/24...ONLY $5 !!...30 min from Manhattan

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Dont worry kids...its only 30 min from Manhattan - and for the vehicle impaired, there is the Rockville Centre LIRR Station only 2 blocks north of the venue!!!  LIRR from Penn Station only takes 30 minutes as well!!  So you have no excuse!  This party is fun with a Capital J  ;)
 
The club is comfy too - for the loungers, they have alot of overstuffed leather couches and a long bar... and for the dancers, they have 100% hardwood floors and all boston acoustics sound.
 
OK....heres the info....
 
Drum N Breaks is proud to present the return of… 
 FUTURE INTELLIGENCE 
Long Islands longest running drum n bass/breakbeat weekly since 1999. 

THURSDAY JUNE 24, 2004 – opening night 
Continuing every Thursday night after, all summer long. 

With your residents 
MYK1CEE, KRAZYGLUE, and SHANEDADDY 

We have always taken pride in bringing you top notch talent at a very low price.  Please join us as we celebrate the return to our favorite LI venue, formerly Amphora, now Madison Hall. 

This year at F.I., the early part of the night will be breakbeats, funk, disco/soul, and some hiphop – drum n bass comes later in the evening. 

Thursday June 24 (Opening Night)

DJ WALLY (aka PISH POSH) 
(Proximity Minds, Cardboard City, http://www.djwallypishposh.com – NYC) 
*exclusive all-original hip-hop/abstract instrumental DJ set! 

One of the leading lights in the avant-gardist abstract beatz scene that’s rising from the NY dance underground, DJ Wally combines hip-hop sensibilities with dnb learnings and a strong taste for the absurdly silly and and abstractly surreal. We are proud to have Wally join us opening night for an exclusive showcase of all original material - hiphop and dnb fans alike won’t want to miss this! 
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Thursday July 1 (Fourth of July Weekend kickoff!) 

CAPITAL J 
(Just Jungle, Wikkid Records, MMI, http://www.djcapitalj.com – Toronto) 

Two years ago we brought J to Amphora and he tore the roof off, so we had to bring him back! If you missed this rare LI appearance by one of jungle’s finest, now’s your chance to see him in action. When turntablism meets jungle and ragga, there’s no telling what J has up his sleeve. Also be sure to check him out at One Nation July 3. 

(From Kelly: Last time Capital J spun at Future Intelligence, he fuckin ROCKED it!  He had the crowd moving like I've never seen before (and you all know how long Ive been going out for)...everyone ran to the dancefloor and shook their ass.  I'm def not going to miss this one.)

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Thursday July 8 

MASON with MC SHARPNESS 
(Gasm – Philly, Freak Recordings UK)(Nex-US, Substitution, Metalheadz US) 

Part of Philly’s SWARM collective, Mason has made some serious noise on the dnb scene this past year, with numerous releases on both US and UK labels, including the massive “Ruff Rugged and Raw” on Dylan’s Freak label. Joining him is MC Sharpness (part of Mental Sharp with Armanni Reign), hands-down one of the U.S.’s best dnb MCs. These two guys are reppin stateside for real, and we are happy to have them at Future Intelligence. 
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Thursday July 15 – KrazyGlue and Shane’s birthday bash! 

FEIGHT 
(Mantis SoundSystem, Personal Nightmare – DC) 

The name F8 has become synonymous with hard and tech-influenced blends of drum and bass. A crowd motivator for the past 6 years, Jeff’s fast paced, energetic sets are often fueled by his own dance-floor dominating production, and cities and states up and down the East Coast have all been influenced by his sound. Join us and be the first to hear one of the U.S.’s most promising up-and-coming dnb producers. 

(From Kelly Again: This is going to be INSANE, I think I might just have to take off work the 16th to party all night and recover!  John & Shanes Bday????  Surely a night not to miss and make sure to bring your cameras bc theres a kodak moment around every corner )


Location: 
MADISON HALL (formerly Amphora) 
210 Merrick Road 
Rockville Centre, NY 11570 
Only 30 minutes by car or train (LIRR) from NYC! 

21+ please bring valid ID 
$5 cover all night long 
doors at 10pm – 3:30am 
LADIES: 2 FOR 1 DRINKS TIL MIDNIGHT!! 

Directions, Info, Contact: 
516.247.5550 Drum N Breaks infoline 
516.536.2433 Madison Hall 
http://www.drumnbreaks.com 
http://www.proximityminds.com 
http://www.personalnightmare.com 
http://www.madisonhall.biz 
info@personalnightmare.com 




		
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LUSH PROMOTIONS and EMC present
2econd Floor Sessions @ DRAGONFLY every Thursday

21+ . Dress Fashionably . NO COVER (w/RSVP) . Doors 10pm to 2am


Email LUSHPROMO@AOL.COM for FREE ADMISSION all night
-- Please include full name & email address for all guests
-- All requests must be received by 8:00pm on Thursday


For Table Reservations: Call Rohan 202.903.7186


Thursday, JUNE 17th
-------------------------

ALEX WHALEN (Arrival Industries : R-Factor Recordings : Thump Radio)

FRED MASLAKI (EMC, DC : Gourmetgrooves : Yoshitoshi)

__________________
.: ALEX WHALEN BIO :.
-- funky progressive house --

Born in the ambient sounds of the early nineties, raised on the dance floors=
=20
of Fever, Buzz, and Twilo, refined behind the controls of Yoshitoshi.com, th=
e=20
sound of Alex Whalen is the sound of now. Ask anyone who has had a chance to=
=20
hear Alex, from Honolulu to D.C., from Los Angeles to Lima, from San Francis=
co=20
to Spain, and you will hear the same thing: Alex Whalen is a master of=20
dynamics. His first hand knowledge of the dance floor, encyclopedic knowledg=
e of=20
records, flawless track selection, and fluid mixing skills combine in a mael=
strom=20
of beats and beauty to intoxicate even the most hesitant dance floor.=20

It's impossible to tell when exactly a DJ goes from being good to being=20
great, but it's easy to tell when the rest of the world takes notice. Washin=
gton=20
D.C. insiders knew they had someone special in their midst six years ago whe=
n=20
Alex played his debut set at D.C.'s longest-running, nationally-renowned eve=
nt=20
Buzz. Two years and many sets later, Alex was invited serve as the opening D=
J=20
for Dave Ralph's new monthly at Buzz - even though Dave didn't want him to b=
e=20
there! As a long time industry veteran it didn't take long for him to overco=
me=20
his skepticism and see the rare talent that finds its home in Alex Whalen. I=
n=20
fact, Dave was so impressed he asked Alex to share the bill with him on his=20
nation-wide "Naturalized" CD tour, and to this day they continue to play=20
together throughout the world.

Of course, it wasn't just his skills as a DJ that the D.C. faithful had come=
=20
to respect. When not manning the decks at Buzz, he spent his days holding=20
things down at Deep Dish's Yoshitoshi Shop and Yoshitoshi.com. In addition t=
o his=20
duties as General Manager, he served as their resident progressive=20
"specialist", blessing inquisitive vinyl collectors world-wide with a knowle=
dge of=20
progressive house that borders on clinically obsessive.

But in Summer of 2002 it was time for a change, and 100 boxes of records and=
=20
3000 miles later he found himself setting up shop deep in the heart of San=20
Francisco. It didn't take long for him to leave his mark on his new hometown=
. As=20
the newest member of the Thump Radio crew, he's added syndicated commercial=20
radio to his arsenal. As the force behind SF's newest monthly, Arrival, he=
=E2=80=99s=20
helping shape the sound of the city he now calls home. And through his studi=
o=20
work with friends like Dave Ralph and the Transition Records crew, he's addi=
ng=20
production to his long already impressive list of credentials. Think he's co=
me a=20
long way? Just wait till you see where he's going...

.: FRED MASLAKI BIO :.
-- deep funky house --
A DC native, Fred Maslaki's roots can be traced back to the early Fever=20
parties and seminal clubs like Tracks, Buzz and Twilo.
The driving, chunky house sound that is Fred's trademark is influenced by=20
close friends Deep Dish, and his track selection sees labels such as Stereo,=
=20
Weekend, Xplosion, Phonetic, and of course, Shinichi/Yoshitoshi, getting maj=
or=20
turntable time.
His popularity and underground credibility with club-goers is on the rise,=20
and this exposure has enabled Fred to play in various cities including his=20
hometown Washington - DC, Baltimore, Charlotte (NC), San Diego and San Franc=
isco .
With many forthcoming dates lined up, you're sure to catch him playing at a=20
club near you. Meanwhile, his mixes can be heard on Thumpradio, LA and YoRad=
io,=20
DC =E2=80=93 with amazing track selection and smooth mixing, Fred rocks any=20=
and all=20
crowds.=20

_________________________
Dragonfly (2nd Floor) :: 21+ . NO COVER w/RSVP . Doors 10pm to 2am
Dragonfly is Washington DC=E2=80=99s famed restaurant-lounge specializing in=
 sushi,=20
sake, electronic music and cutting-edge design.=20
Deep house with a funky twist . Eclectic mix of people . Intimate setting .=20
Every Thursday
Dragonfly :: 1215 18th Street, NW WDC

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Uh huh...aww yea.   RP's first show in two months.  Thursday, June 17th.
It's at some sports-bar kinda place called "Three Main Street", in Dover, NH. 
Free to get in.  Stuff starts happening at 9ish, and yes, that's the address 
of the place if you're having trouble finding it.
We're opening up for a band called Joy Side Down. It's my soon-to-be ex 
friend's straight-ahead rock band.  They're letting us play with them under the 
assumption that we'll be doing zeppelin covers or whatnot.  Little do they know 
that I rented a wood chipper from Home Depot and I've been collecting roadkill 
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Anyone know what the deal is this year for PS1?  
 
Is Warm-Up Stilll happening this year, and if it is, when can we expect to start the dancing?  Also, do we still have the beach exhibit, or have they changed it yet?
 
Any info would be appreciated...no summer is complete without Saturdays at PS1.
 
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Subject: [ne-raves] tonite :: CHINESE WHISPERS :: ALIAS@Nation : DnB+Breaks : OPEN BAR


* GET ON THE $4 VIP LIST! -- INFO AT BOTTOM OF THIS EMAIL...
* IF YOU ALREADY EMAILED ME YOUR REDUCED LIST, I DID RECEIVE IT.  IF YOU AR=
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A DJ on this night PLEASE SEND YOUR LISTS ASAP...


ALIAS Thursdays | Drum =8Cn=B9 Bass & Breaks | upstairs lounge Nation-DC
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Thursday, 06.17.04 ::   ALIAS @NATION + Alchemy

chinese whispers

The =8Cphenomenon=B9 known as Chinese Whispers stems from the game of the same
name. When passing information from one party to another (usually verbally)
the facts and theme often become distorted. A common example of this is see=
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in rumors and gossip. Likewise, information passed by email is often
altered, as is information that is overheard by people. Safety warnings can
turn into scares, jokes into facts and drama queens into haters...

Admission ::=20

* 2 for 1 admission  9 p.m. - 10 p.m.
* $7 (usually) after 10 p.m.
* $4 (always) vip list after 10 p.m.
* Email [alias_agent_johntab@mac.com] to get on the $4 vip list! see bottom
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OPEN BAR ::  9 p.m. - 10 p.m. + $5 pitchers all night!
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* 09:00-11:00   Plan B [drum=B9n=B9bass]
* 11:00 - 12:15   Psykofly vs. F8 [drum=B9n=B9bass]
* 12:15 -01:30   Lantern vs. virtue [breaks]
* 01:30-02:45   Esfand [drum=B9n=B9bass]

Check to see who=B9s going to ALIAS this week:

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Check to see what people said about ALIAS last week:

http://www.buzzlife.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3D37778


Be sure to check out CUBIK@NATION every Friday.

Open Bar:  9 p.m. - 10 p.m.

Upcoming Lineups:

06.18.04:  Sander Kleinenberg + Kazell
06.25.04:  Tiesto + Roman Bath Foam Party
07.02.04:  FIRECRACKER 4:  Danny Howells + Fresh (Bad Company) + DJ SS +
APHRODITE (just added!!!)
07.09.04:  TBA
07.16.04:  Astral Projection (live psytrance) + Jon =8C00=B9 Fleming
07.23.04:  Christmas in July with Miss Kittin + John Selway

For full details:  http://www.buzzlife.com


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When you arrive at ALIAS, make sure your name is crossed off the $4 list
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off the full price] the next night. If you sign up for the ALIAS list, but
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:: FRIDAY, JUNE 18th ::

Main Room

D:FUSE (Texas)
They came, they saw, they voted. Urb magazine (featured in the May edition) 
votes D:Fuse #2 in the Best DJ/Artist of the WMC category!!

Ray Kang + Barrett Atwood (2 Tribes : BrokenSoul : DC)

Suneel (Electrolife : DC)

 
Rooftop

DJ OSO-FRESH

______________

.: DEEJAY BIOS :.

D:FUSE
Progressive . House


D:FUSE began spinning all over the USA, Canada and Mexico. His first mix CD, 
'Psychotrance 2000,' was released in September 1999, was followed up with 
'Psychotrance 2001,' and then 'Progressive Mix Volume One'. When D:FUSE's skills 
came to the attention of Paul Oakenfold, Oakenfold was so impressed that he 
offered D:FUSE the opening DJ slot on two North American Perfecto tours. This 
gave D:FUSE the opportunity to expand his horizons and establish his name with 
huge audiences. 

According to Oakenfold, "D:FUSE represents what I admire most. He's worked 
hard for what he's acheived, he's a fantastic DJ and artist, he has a creative 
mind and he understands the whole vibe." A double CD mix compilation for Paul 
Oakenfold's Perfecto Presents series, 'People,' was released in February 2002 
and immediately entered the CMJ Chart at number 9.

Working with a number of notable producers, D:FUSE has managed to keep his 
style fresh. Under the moniker of Expansion with writer/producer Shane Howard, 
D:Fuse caught the attention of many world class DJs, with "Feel" featured on 
Dave Seaman's "Global Underground - Buenos Aires" compilation and "Perspectives" 
licensed to Paul van Dyk's label, Vandit. D:FUSE also records with LA-based 
musician/producer Ken Hankins (aka JOY), whose joint track "She Rides" was 
released on Oakenfold's imprint, Perfecto, entering the UK dance charts at number 
14. During 2001, D:FUSE began his working relationship with renowned British 
musician/engineer, Mark Horwood. Their debut, a haunting remix of Deep 
Architecture's "The Realm (D:FUSE's AM Sunday Mix)" was rated by leading DJ Hernan 
Cattaneo it as "one of best tracks of 2001."

Always eager to share music with as many as he can, D:FUSE mixes and hosts 
"The People's Mix"; one of the most popular shows nationally broadcasted on XM 
Satellite Radio. He's also featured bi-monthly on Q101FM's Sonic Boom in 
Chicago. D:FUSE is also a frequently featured artist on ThumpRadio.com and hosts a 
show called "The Mile High Mix" for Delta Airlines' in-flight entertainment. 

D:FUSE's DJ sets include true live performance. To add a completely new angle 
to his shows, D:FUSE uses the Roland HPD 15 Handsonic to play live percussion 
during his DJ sets- "I'm a performer at heart," says D:FUSE, who played the 
drums for 12 years in various bands. "This allows me to interact with the crowd 
on a completely different level." He has an on-going DJ residency at the 
legendary Release @ 1015 Folsom in San Francisco and is a regular at Spundae L.A. 
and Five in D.C. With a busy touring schedule nationwide, D:FUSE still finds 
time to bring his music overseas, headlining in the UK at God's Kitchen, 
Debunk, Creation, Slinky, and Passion as well as at Club Q and Cult in
Switzerland. 

D:FUSE's 2003 project, People_2: Both Sides of the Picture, is the sequel to 
People. The double-disc set features 5 never before released tracks from the 
Texan prodigy and recieved top reviews from Urb, DJ Times, and a host of other 
national and regional press. The downtempo mix on CD1: People Chilling 
showcases tracks from the likes of Feel and Mark Horwood, alongside three of D:FUSE's 
own productions, including the hit "Everything With You". CD2: People 
Clubbing features a high-energy mix designed to encompass the club feel, opening with 
Scanners feat. D:FUSE "Music is About You" and closing with a D:FUSE cover of 
U2's New Year's Day. All together, People_2 contains seven D:FUSE productions 
and continues to be a solid seller for System Recordings. 

D:FUSE's current release, "Prelude to Begin" is an EP of all original music. 
Released exclusively to iTunes, Prelude to Begin encompasses exclusive mixes 
and highlights from his long awaited artist album titled "Begin". "This album 
has been over two years in the making," D says. "It's allowed me to get back 
into song writing. I've been a lyricist all of my life, and Begin is all about 
moving away from instrumental tracks and moving more into heart-felt emotion 
through words." The album was written in studios oceans apart with a diverse 
group of engineers and producers. D:Fuse worked with Mark Horwood in Chichester, 
England; J Scott G at Deepsky studio, Joy, and Pete Lorimer at 29 Palms studio
in Los Angeles. D:Fuse performs much of his own vocals and also worked with 
Jes of Motorcycle fame and MC Flipside of Toronto.

Ray Kang
Funky House

During the early nineties as underground dance music started surfacing 
against the backdrop of grunge and mainstream pop, Ray experienced an outdoor rave 
in the outskirts of Los Angeles where he heard true Detroit style techno for 
the first time. Over the next 2 years he frequented such parties in Southern 
Califonia before he moved away to Boston for college. The scene in New England 
provided very little underground music so he made weekend trips to New York 
where House and Trance were all the rage at clubs like Twilo & Limelight. After 
college, he moved to Washington, DC to work on Capitol Hill. He eventually 
purchased 2 turntables and a mixer in October of 2000 to begin spinning records as 
a hobby. He quickly understood the basics of song structure, measures and 
phrasing and learned how to beat-match within 2 days. Four months later, he 
produced the first of 4 compilations titled DC Underground with a seamless blend of 
progressive house, techno and breaks. The following 6 compilations have since 
been completed, featuring a broad range of electronic dance music with a 
strong house influence. He has since played at parties all over DC & Baltimore 
(Buzz/Cubik, Glow, Destination, Club Five, Sonar, Open Door, Saki, Andalu, Anzu, 
Spank, Couth, Hybrid, Signal) and New York (Sin Sin, Leopard Lounge) alongside 
DJ?s such as D:FUSE, Dieselboy, Micro, MV, Bryan Zentz, John 00 Fleming, The 
East Coast Boogiemen, Demarkus Lewis, Lance DeSardi, Madam ZU, and Native 
Theory.

Since August of 2001, he as been a resident DJ at the Blue Room where he and 
business partner double o7 have brought thousands of people together to dance 
every Thursday night at their themed event called KNEE DEEP. His mixes can 
also be heard across the country on XM Satellite Radio, channel 80, "The Move". 
In December of 2002, he joined Broken Soul, a local collective of 6 DJ?s and 
Producers who are rising quickly in the mid-Atlantic region. Ray considers 
himself extremely fortunate to have the opportunities in front of him to showcase 
his passion for music. He recently began production on his own music and is 
working to have his first E.P. ready for release at the 2004 Winter Music 
Conference in Miami... 

Barrett Atwood
Tribal . House . Progressive

Barrett, who formerly performed under the moniker descent, is a long-time 
supporter of the D.C. area dance music scene. A DJ since 1993, Barrett began 
spinning electronic dance music in 2000. 
He has since played numerous venues throughout the District and held a 
residency at the now defunct Signal party. From DJ to activist, Barrett gives his 
music 110%. And it shows. Bringing you the tribal madness, from funky house 
beats to dark progressive drums, Barrett always gets the dancefloor grooving, 
moving and screaming for more!

Suneel
Tribal . Funky . Progressive . House

1999 saw an inviation to join Washington DC's progressive house record label 
/ promotion team Stellar. A definite "moment" for my short career so far as 
this opportunity led to many essential experiences in performing, promoting and 
learning the industry on a national and even international level. Props & 
respect to Ty T, Graddy & Odessa as they continue to share & make an impact on the 
progressive music scene locally, and internationally.

2003 came in & I made the move to Washington DC to pursue a more fulfilling 
career and better opportunities through music. This year has treated me well 
with new found relationships with some of the city's premiere event promoters. 
Much respect to the Buzzlife Crew, Club FIVE (M3), D-Tribe, DC Skillz, and GHM 
as they helped me surface in an area flooded with EDM djs in a short amount of 
time. The scene here has survived numerous obstacles recently, and the events 
are igniting more feeling as we continue to push for our right to dance. The 
vibes are reaching levels of forgotten times, and the artists / technology are 
pushing the music to new creative heights. Its a good time to be here in Wash 
DC, and I feel very lucky to play a small part of the entire formula. 

The future is looking promising with a relationship establishing with Atlanta 
based duo, DJs Faust & Shortee, along with experimenting with Wash DC based 
turntablist Blake 9 on 4 turntable performances known by some as the Black 
Squirrel Technique. It keeps getting better, and I thank all of you who have 
supported me at one point or another. Much love!! 

DJ OSO-FRESH (ROOF TOP PARTY)
HIP HOP & PARTY CLASSICS


Come on now!!! No late night old school session would be complete without 
POLLEN RESIDENT, and one of the original DC Hip Hop DJ's... OSOFRESH. This guy is 
so versatile, it amazes us all. He can flip tempos and vibes like no other. 
DJ's... Take Notes... He can rock whatever he wants, anytime he wants.

Give it up for a true DC Pioneer.

______________


Experience the night on CLUB FIVE's Full Bass Heavy EAW Avalon Sound system!!

Club Five is a spacious 3 level club offering a variety of moods. Some of the 
club's features include 3 fully stocked large bars, lounge areas, 
state-of-the-art sound and lighting systems, long-back sofas, coat check, and a rooftop 
patio.

21+ . No Dress Code . $10 admission . Doors 10 to 5

Club Five: 1214 B 18th Street NW, WDC

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Subject: [ne-raves] Volume in NYC for list event?

Not sure what's going on with Volume so I'll try to get in touch with 
their management. They had some craziness with last week's Hawtin show 
which had to be relocated to the Sullivan Room. But they sent email out 
today confirming a rock show. Seems like they are applying for permits 
event by event which seems like a huge pain.

Why does NYC have to be such a pain in the ass? I hope some really good 
precedents get set by the summer protests regarding protesting and 
permits. Might be doing some support work for UFPJ and legal groups so 
I'll do my best to network with some legal suits.

Bar owners seem very organized as far as doing something about the smoking 
ban. I think they're trying to push for smoking if venues are outfitted 
with filtration systems. Need to use similar methods to do away with 
cabaret laws.

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Does anyone know when the party for Scotto, I think it's called Payback,
when it's going to be and where?  Or is still in the beginning stages?

JJ Brennan (DJ Incognito)
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Not sure what's going on with Volume so I'll try to get in touch with 
their management. They had some craziness with last week's Hawtin show 
which had to be relocated to the Sullivan Room. But they sent email out 
today confirming a rock show. Seems like they are applying for permits 
event by event which seems like a huge pain.

Why does NYC have to be such a pain in the ass? I hope some really good 
precedents get set by the summer protests regarding protesting and 
permits. Might be doing some support work for UFPJ and legal groups so 
I'll do my best to network with some legal suits.

Bar owners seem very organized as far as doing something about the smoking 
ban. I think they're trying to push for smoking if venues are outfitted 
with filtration systems. Need to use similar methods to do away with 
cabaret laws.

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I think it's Avalon. Just to clear things up, this isn't a party FOR Scotto, 
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Oh yeah it's for DB, got the names mixed up, sorry about that.

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I think it's Avalon. Just to clear things up, this isn't a party FOR Scotto,

it's a party BECAUSE OF Scotto

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Subject: RE: [ne-raves] Payback - Thursday July 29th @ Avalon - DB Benefit

On Thu, 17 Jun 2004, Brennan, James PO (ACTNY) wrote:

> Does anyone know when the party for Scotto, I think it's called Payback,
> when it's going to be and where?  Or is still in the beginning stages?

Jinx's site has info about the benefit but the link to Payback is messed 
up because the page doesn't have a .html extension on the link so it 
displays the page as plain text. Hope they fix it soon.

Payback
Thursday July 29th @ Avalon

Mmm... Thursday is not so good for me. Hope they get lots of people 
nonetheless.

j'

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http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0419/flylife.php

Fly Life
by Tricia Romano
Money Matters
No peace, no love: DB, Scotto, and Arc in dispute over NASA reunion funds
May 11th, 2004 11:00 AM

On the surface, the NASA reunion party at Arc last month was a typical 
rave..with lots of acid house beats and P.L.U.R. (peace, love, 
understanding, respect). But behind the scenes, you could say it was also 
far too typical of rave culture, with vicious backstabbing, money 
disputes, and accusations of slander, culminating in online physical 
threats from fans on the Breakbeat Science message boards.


DB, the drum'n'bass DJ and co-owner of Breakbeat Science record store, 
contends that his partner, SCOTTO (SCOTT OSMAN), a lighting artist who's 
worked for Twilo and Limelight, owes him $12,000 from the NASA party on 
April 3.  He says he is out $2,000 for flyers and DJ flight expenses and 
another $10,000 for the security deposit.


Both Arc and DB say that Scotto breached the contract by going to 
TicketLeap, a ticket vendor not stipulated in the contract. Contractually, 
only TicketWeb was to be used, with Breakbeat Science, Satellite Records, 
and Philly's 611 Records also selling tickets. Scotto says that he went to 
TicketLeap out of frustration with Arc, which didn't release tickets until 
five days prior to the event. Scotto says that after signing the contract, 
Arc's MIKE BINDRA and NICK COOPER went to the Winter Music Conference in 
Miami, and "did not bother to get us tickets. Our one shot at making money 
is when the buzz goes out on the streets." (Scotto concedes, however, that 
most tickets to club events sell in the few days prior to the party.) "If 
Arc had a problem with me selling tickets, they were required by the 
contract to serve me in writing and let me know that I caused a material 
breach and to allow me time to fix that material breach."


Bindra says he verbally told Scotto to stop using TicketLeap immediately. 
Because Scotto had breached the contract, Arc refused to accept 
TicketLeap's check (made out to Scotto, who doesn't even have a bank 
account)  on the day of the party, and asked that $10,000 in cash or a 
cashier's check be presented up front..or the club would not honor the 
will-call list.  DB offered to wire $10,000 of his own money to Arc for 
security in lieu of getting the check cleared. "Against our advice, DB 
came to the rescue,"  says Bindra. "I told DB that Scotto was trying to 
pull a fast one..it's been coming for weeks, we've been watching it 
happen." The ticket funds are still frozen.


Scotto contends that Arc made an unreasonable demand..asking for cash or a 
cashier's check after 5 p.m. on a Saturday, when all banks are closed. "He 
could have wired money online into an account. There are check-cashing 
places open,"  says Bindra.  "What was unreasonable was that at 5 p.m. he 
didn't have it."


Since only Scotto's company, Drop.com Inc., signed the contract with Arc, 
Scotto contends that DB wasn't his partner, and that he doesn't owe DB 
money, the club does. DB says he didn't sign the contract because he 
didn't have an LLC to protect him, but that "in law, I have a past history 
with Scotto. It's easy to prove he was my partner. The flyer says 'DB and 
Scotto present.' If I went to court with this, it's not an issue."


DB and Scotto ended their business relationship 12 years ago over a 
dispute regarding a NASA Music imprint for Profile Records, which later 
became Smile Communications.  "It's my own fault,"  says DB. "I said to 
all my friends, 'Make sure I never work with that cunt again.' What 
happened is the mists of time obscured what really went on."


Scotto is suing the club for $750,000 for breach of contract. Bindra says 
he has never been served with a legal notice. Scotto, who refused to 
provide the name of his attorney, also claims Bindra "blackmailed" DB; 
that Arc sold liquor after hours and without a proper license; that they 
stole money from the door; and that they never paid him his $4,500 
promoter fee. Bindra refutes all charges:  "As far as I'm concerned, we 
paid him. The person who stole money is not us. He had something like 
$27,000 in illegal ticket money that he was holding. I didn't blackmail 
anyone. He has our share of the money, he has DB's money, he has 
everything."


Scotto says that DB is slandering him by posting messages on Breakbeat 
Science's website saying that he stole money from the DJ. "If DB decides 
to stop slandering me and decides to help our case for him and me, then 
we'll win," he says. "If he decides to team up with Arc, then it's all 
gone. I am going to Atlantic City when the money clears next week. And 
I'll blow it all on the lawyers. End of story."


This would not be the first time that Scotto has sued a nightclub. In 
1999, he sued Studio 54 for breach of contract, also for $750,000, and 
settled out of court.


JASON JINX, one of the original NASA DJs who played the reunion, and who 
likens Scotto to a "used car salesman," describing him as "slippery" and 
"shady,"  volunteered to organize another party to reimburse DB. The name? 
Payback.

< Hey Everyone, Jason Jinx here again.

   I would like to thank everyone again for the overwhelming support you
have shown DB and his family. I have received hundreds of emails from
people offering to help in any way possible. One of the most helpful
suggestions was for me to set up a Paypal account on DB..s behalf. I
thought this was a great idea! Good Looking! DB and his family are so
touched, and can..t believe all the love there is out there!!!

      If you would like to make a donation to help DB out, simply go to
http://www.paypal.com and click on ..Send Money. and enter
helpdb@jasonjinx.com in the line labeled ..Recipients Email.. If you
do not have a Paypal account, you will need to create one first.
(don..t be afraid, it..s really quick and painless.)

To follow up on the benefit party:

      I am currently trying to convince a big club to donate their space
for the night. I will keep you up to date when it is all finalized.
If you are not in the NY area or won..t be able to attend the benefit
and would still like to help out, please make a Paypal donation.
Every little bit will help.

Thank you so much.
Peace,
JJ >

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The party isn't for Scotto...its a benefit for DB who got fucked by Scotto for over $12k.
 
I actually think that I'm going to take a personal day from work on the 30th so I can go to this event.  I love oldschool hardcore and would love to hear a whole night of it live again.  Anyone know if there is going to be more than 1 room open?  There doesnt seem to be that many djs to open more than one room (plus its a Thursday - I dont see it being crowded at all due to that as well).  If only the main room will be occupied by us, will the other rooms have music also - like other parties being hosted?  
 
If you understand what Im asking and have an answer, please email me back.  Otherwise, sorry for confusing the hell outta you guys  ;)

Jasper Lin <jasper@hyperreal.org> wrote:
On Thu, 17 Jun 2004, Brennan, James PO (ACTNY) wrote:

> Does anyone know when the party for Scotto, I think it's called Payback,
> when it's going to be and where? Or is still in the beginning stages?

Jinx's site has info about the benefit but the link to Payback is messed 
up because the page doesn't have a .html extension on the link so it 
displays the page as plain text. Hope they fix it soon.

Payback
Thursday July 29th @ Avalon

Mmm... Thursday is not so good for me. Hope they get lots of people 
nonetheless.

j'

- - -

http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0419/flylife.php

Fly Life
by Tricia Romano
Money Matters
No peace, no love: DB, Scotto, and Arc in dispute over NASA reunion funds
May 11th, 2004 11:00 AM

On the surface, the NASA reunion party at Arc last month was a typical 
rave..with lots of acid house beats and P.L.U.R. (peace, love, 
understanding, respect). But behind the scenes, you could say it was also 
far too typical of rave culture, with vicious backstabbing, money 
disputes, and accusations of slander, culminating in online physical 
threats from fans on the Breakbeat Science message boards.


DB, the drum'n'bass DJ and co-owner of Breakbeat Science record store, 
contends that his partner, SCOTTO (SCOTT OSMAN), a lighting artist who's 
worked for Twilo and Limelight, owes him $12,000 from the NASA party on 
April 3. He says he is out $2,000 for flyers and DJ flight expenses and 
another $10,000 for the security deposit.


Both Arc and DB say that Scotto breached the contract by going to 
TicketLeap, a ticket vendor not stipulated in the contract. Contractually, 
only TicketWeb was to be used, with Breakbeat Science, Satellite Records, 
and Philly's 611 Records also selling tickets. Scotto says that he went to 
TicketLeap out of frustration with Arc, which didn't release tickets until 
five days prior to the event. Scotto says that after signing the contract, 
Arc's MIKE BINDRA and NICK COOPER went to the Winter Music Conference in 
Miami, and "did not bother to get us tickets. Our one shot at making money 
is when the buzz goes out on the streets." (Scotto concedes, however, that 
most tickets to club events sell in the few days prior to the party.) "If 
Arc had a problem with me selling tickets, they were required by the 
contract to serve me in writing and let me know that I caused a material 
breach and to allow me time to fix that material breach."


Bindra says he verbally told Scotto to stop using TicketLeap immediately. 
Because Scotto had breached the contract, Arc refused to accept 
TicketLeap's check (made out to Scotto, who doesn't even have a bank 
account) on the day of the party, and asked that $10,000 in cash or a 
cashier's check be presented up front..or the club would not honor the 
will-call list. DB offered to wire $10,000 of his own money to Arc for 
security in lieu of getting the check cleared. "Against our advice, DB 
came to the rescue," says Bindra. "I told DB that Scotto was trying to 
pull a fast one..it's been coming for weeks, we've been watching it 
happen." The ticket funds are still frozen.


Scotto contends that Arc made an unreasonable demand..asking for cash or a 
cashier's check after 5 p.m. on a Saturday, when all banks are closed. "He 
could have wired money online into an account. There are check-cashing 
places open," says Bindra. "What was unreasonable was that at 5 p.m. he 
didn't have it."


Since only Scotto's company, Drop.com Inc., signed the contract with Arc, 
Scotto contends that DB wasn't his partner, and that he doesn't owe DB 
money, the club does. DB says he didn't sign the contract because he 
didn't have an LLC to protect him, but that "in law, I have a past history 
with Scotto. It's easy to prove he was my partner. The flyer says 'DB and 
Scotto present.' If I went to court with this, it's not an issue."


DB and Scotto ended their business relationship 12 years ago over a 
dispute regarding a NASA Music imprint for Profile Records, which later 
became Smile Communications. "It's my own fault," says DB. "I said to 
all my friends, 'Make sure I never work with that cunt again.' What 
happened is the mists of time obscured what really went on."


Scotto is suing the club for $750,000 for breach of contract. Bindra says 
he has never been served with a legal notice. Scotto, who refused to 
provide the name of his attorney, also claims Bindra "blackmailed" DB; 
that Arc sold liquor after hours and without a proper license; that they 
stole money from the door; and that they never paid him his $4,500 
promoter fee. Bindra refutes all charges: "As far as I'm concerned, we 
paid him. The person who stole money is not us. He had something like 
$27,000 in illegal ticket money that he was holding. I didn't blackmail 
anyone. He has our share of the money, he has DB's money, he has 
everything."


Scotto says that DB is slandering him by posting messages on Breakbeat 
Science's website saying that he stole money from the DJ. "If DB decides 
to stop slandering me and decides to help our case for him and me, then 
we'll win," he says. "If he decides to team up with Arc, then it's all 
gone. I am going to Atlantic City when the money clears next week. And 
I'll blow it all on the lawyers. End of story."


This would not be the first time that Scotto has sued a nightclub. In 
1999, he sued Studio 54 for breach of contract, also for $750,000, and 
settled out of court.


JASON JINX, one of the original NASA DJs who played the reunion, and who 
likens Scotto to a "used car salesman," describing him as "slippery" and 
"shady," volunteered to organize another party to reimburse DB. The name? 
Payback.

< Hey Everyone, Jason Jinx here again.

I would like to thank everyone again for the overwhelming support you
have shown DB and his family. I have received hundreds of emails from
people offering to help in any way possible. One of the most helpful
suggestions was for me to set up a Paypal account on DB..s behalf. I
thought this was a great idea! Good Looking! DB and his family are so
touched, and can..t believe all the love there is out there!!!

If you would like to make a donation to help DB out, simply go to
http://www.paypal.com and click on ..Send Money. and enter
helpdb@jasonjinx.com in the line labeled ..Recipients Email.. If you
do not have a Paypal account, you will need to create one first.
(don..t be afraid, it..s really quick and painless.)

To follow up on the benefit party:

I am currently trying to convince a big club to donate their space
for the night. I will keep you up to date when it is all finalized.
If you are not in the NY area or won..t be able to attend the benefit
and would still like to help out, please make a Paypal donation.
Every little bit will help.

Thank you so much.
Peace,
JJ >

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It seems that Long Island bars are ALOT less lienient (than the city) regarding the smoking ban.  Although it says that we can't smoke in them - most places seem to not care and allow smoking anyways...the stipulation being that ashtrays should not be on the bar or used inside the bar - which makes for some nasty makeshift water-in-cup ashtrays
 
>From what I understand, police officers cannot write tickets for smoking in bars, they have to contact the health department and then the health department issues a summons.  Which makes it very hard to carry out this smoking ban if all bars chose to say screw the ban.
 
I personally like what Karma did and made the place known as a smoking lounge...which gives them permission to have smoking inside because that is what their business is - they pass around the hookah with tobacco from all over the world.  Also, the clubs that allow smoking outside also lose out on money when people sneak in without paying the cover bc of all those people walking in & out)
 
So what Im trying to say is, I know that some people dont smoke and would rather be in a smoke free environment, but the bars still claim to be losing money - why would'nt they just say screw the law (like most LI bars do) and bring back the business that they say they lost due to the smoking ban?
 
(btw...I think we should still be able to smoke in bars, lounges, etc - but leave the restaurant smoking ban active, even though I smoke and usually have a cigarette after a meal, if you cant wait 15 minutes to pay the bill, then you REALLY need to try to quit)
 
And this is what happens when I spend the whole day at work BORED OUT OF MY MIND!!!  *Caps for emphasis here*  ;)
 
See ya...
Kelly.

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Subject: [ne-raves] .: Sun 2004/06/20 - Dirtbox Radio - DJ Seven, Relapse :.


This Sunday we've got two gangsters joinin us on the show, DJ Seven, and
Relapse.  Both are solid DJs from the DC metro area, and cool guys to
boot.  Jerel and myself will be holdin down the decks as well, and
possibly some special guests for Afterhours.  Make sure you tune in and
check it out.


>>timeslots (EDT):

07-08pm  - Intro Hour w/ ODJ & Jerel
08-09:30pm - Relapse
09:30-11pm - DJ Seven
11-??am - Afterhours Madness


>>links:

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>>upcoming dirtboxes:

Jun 27: Abe Froman, F8
Jul 04: Rev-E
Jul 11: Plan B
Jul 18: Maboroshi
Jul 25: Higgs tha Mighty
Aug 01: Scratch N Spin crew (Shilow, Scandal, more)


>>upcoming bookings:

Jun 24: ODJ @ inthemix1.com
Jun 30: Jerel @ Dismantled Beats, jungletrain.net
Jul 04: ODJ, Jerel, Robot Death Squad, Shade, Ricky Ricardo & Joey
Migraine @ Freaks United III, Nation, DC
Aug 11: ODJ & Jerel @ Release, State College, PA


Werd.  Tune the fuck in this week.  Check out the site for new archives
and a couple o' exclusive mixes that'll be up this week.

>>> [url]www.dirtboxradio.com[/url] <<<

EZ![/QUOTE]


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Subject: [ne-raves] awww jeah

oh that's right meatsock got the gmail and is back on the list woot
woot. i used to be on this list a couple years ago, is it still full
of etard candy ravers, bitchy backstabbing promoters and self-absorbed
DJs posting 3 page diatribes on why RAVE is DEAD and how much more
awesome it used to be back in the day, you know, like before 6 months
ago when you all started raving?

damn i sure hope so.

                                         -meatsock

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you're a failure meatsock, A FAILURE!

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well, yeah. but thats unrelated to me trying to find out if my email
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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] awww jeah

> i used to be on this list a couple years ago

awesome!  you can tell us all about how raving 'should be' what year the PLUR
got lost, and why keoki is superduper kewl.  phew!  you bring more relief than
mylanta!

plur!

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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] awww jeah

no, that's dcraves.

this list is pretty quiet



--- peter lastname <meatsock@gmail.com> wrote:
> oh that's right meatsock got the gmail and is back
> on the list woot
> woot. i used to be on this list a couple years ago,
> is it still full
> of etard candy ravers, bitchy backstabbing promoters
> and self-absorbed
> DJs posting 3 page diatribes on why RAVE is DEAD and
> how much more
> awesome it used to be back in the day, you know,
> like before 6 months
> ago when you all started raving?
> 
> damn i sure hope so.
> 
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> no, that's dcraves.
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I thought his description was spot on for this list
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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] awww jeah

Quoting Frank Scott <frank_i_s@yahoo.com>:

> I thought his description was spot on for this list
> several years ago!

ov course it was! he was here 'back in the day', remember???


hi snookums.  glad to see your shining 1s and 0s again.  How you been?  doing
anything with music on wednesday nights?  for some reason, i just jones for new
stuff on wednesdays....

t-bone

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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] awww jeah

ah
obviously i missed the lists' heyday.

because it's pretty low traffic now.



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But he forgot about the jaded ravers...what was the lil acronym???
 
Poor LoRi RaInBoW bRiGhT got abused like crazy...hehehe - there was alot more traffic then...alot of old jaded ravers that have quieted down and moved on (I guess)

Frank Scott <frank_i_s@yahoo.com> wrote:
--- Teh Mary wrote:
> no, that's dcraves.
> 
> this list is pretty quiet


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---- On Tue, 22 Jun 2004, kelly d (supapimpny@yahoo.com) wrote:

> But he forgot about the jaded ravers...what was the lil acronym???
>  
> Poor LoRi RaInBoW bRiGhT got abused like crazy...hehehe - there was alot more
traffic then...alot of
> old jaded ravers that have quieted down and moved on (I guess)


The JSMers.  Jackass Sarcastic Massif (or "ive", take your pick).  Although I am
struggling to remember if anyone here was ever a member?  Probably not, we are
all very nice people.  

While I miss the somewhat twisted sense of community that we had, I certainly
don't miss coming home from work to find 112 new emails in my inbox.  

-jw
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Quoting kelly d <supapimpny@yahoo.com>:
> Poor LoRi RaInBoW bRiGhT got abused like crazy..

she dished out the abuse waay more than she received it.  post-'newbie' status
of course.


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Sorry - should I have added <sarcasm> after that line?  haha

t-bone <t-bone@acidgrave.com> wrote:Quoting kelly d :
> Poor LoRi RaInBoW bRiGhT got abused like crazy..

she dished out the abuse waay more than she received it. post-'newbie' status
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> > Poor LoRi RaInBoW bRiGhT got abused like crazy...hehehe - there 
> was alot more
> traffic then...alot of
> > old jaded ravers that have quieted down and moved on (I guess)

ditto on lori dishing it out, whoever said that. but at least things were
entertaining. i also have my theory that the majority of east-coast
"rave" lists took a significant hit (at least in terms of total traffic)
once entropy got tossed in the slammer. 

> The JSMers.  Jackass Sarcastic Massif (or "ive", take your pick).  
> Although I am
> struggling to remember if anyone here was ever a member?  Probably 
> not, we are
> all very nice people.  

i'm still here. i just have higher standards of flame-worthiness than
some. frank is still here, so is josh obviously. i think skinner
renounced his JSM membership in some big "you all suck" type email. dr
jesus may be lurking on the list... i know he's back on the net, and has
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On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 14:28:27 -0400, josh <stamina@ureach.com> wrote:
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> ---- On Tue, 22 Jun 2004, kelly d (supapimpny@yahoo.com) wrote: 
> > But he forgot about the jaded ravers...what was the lil acronym???
> > Poor LoRi RaInBoW bRiGhT got abused like crazy...hehehe - there was alot more

whatever happened to that girl?

> The JSMers.  Jackass Sarcastic Massif (or "ive", take your pick).  Although I am
> struggling to remember if anyone here was ever a member?

i believe i got honorary JSM status after one particularly inspired
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occasion. mind you, i remember this happeneing more or less in my own
personal hey-day so it may just be a brainhole speaking. in any event,
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I don't think entropy did any time, he's been posting on other lists and
he's only gotten more stupid.  He now goes around sticking up for Bush and
the Republicans.

KeNNy!

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> > > Poor LoRi RaInBoW bRiGhT got abused like crazy...hehehe - there
> > was alot more
> > traffic then...alot of
> > > old jaded ravers that have quieted down and moved on (I guess)
>
> ditto on lori dishing it out, whoever said that. but at least things were
> entertaining. i also have my theory that the majority of east-coast
> "rave" lists took a significant hit (at least in terms of total traffic)
> once entropy got tossed in the slammer.
>
> > The JSMers.  Jackass Sarcastic Massif (or "ive", take your pick).
> > Although I am
> > struggling to remember if anyone here was ever a member?  Probably
> > not, we are
> > all very nice people.
>
> i'm still here. i just have higher standards of flame-worthiness than
> some. frank is still here, so is josh obviously. i think skinner
> renounced his JSM membership in some big "you all suck" type email. dr
> jesus may be lurking on the list... i know he's back on the net, and has
> been on friendster for a few months.
>
> -ryan
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wtf. no way! we should invite him back and see if we can continue him
along his moral upswing to off himself on account of the fact that
republicans hate gays =D

On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 18:11:15 -0400 (EDT), Ken <ken@butterfly.hjsoft.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> I don't think entropy did any time, he's been posting on other lists and
> he's only gotten more stupid.  He now goes around sticking up for Bush and
> the Republicans.
> 
> KeNNy!
> 
> 
> On Tue, 22 Jun 2004, ryan m vercolen wrote:
> 
> > > > Poor LoRi RaInBoW bRiGhT got abused like crazy...hehehe - there
> > > was alot more
> > > traffic then...alot of
> > > > old jaded ravers that have quieted down and moved on (I guess)
> >
> > ditto on lori dishing it out, whoever said that. but at least things were
> > entertaining. i also have my theory that the majority of east-coast
> > "rave" lists took a significant hit (at least in terms of total traffic)
> > once entropy got tossed in the slammer.
> >
> > > The JSMers.  Jackass Sarcastic Massif (or "ive", take your pick).
> > > Although I am
> > > struggling to remember if anyone here was ever a member?  Probably
> > > not, we are
> > > all very nice people.
> >
> > i'm still here. i just have higher standards of flame-worthiness than
> > some. frank is still here, so is josh obviously. i think skinner
> > renounced his JSM membership in some big "you all suck" type email. dr
> > jesus may be lurking on the list... i know he's back on the net, and has
> > been on friendster for a few months.
> >
> > -ryan
> >
> >
> >
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Could you kill my kenny@orwell.lost-angel.com (might just be
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--- Ken <ken@butterfly.hjsoft.com> wrote:
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> I don't think entropy did any time, he's been posting on other lists and
> he's only gotten more stupid.  He now goes around sticking up for Bush and
> the Republicans.

God help me and the rest of the republicans....



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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Hey Mr Admin!

just forge your headers and send a message from an open relay with
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Subject: Re: Re: [ne-raves] awww jeah

god can't help you now son, but luckily diebold and KBR can do a bang
up job in his place on short notice. here's to 4 more years of whig,
er sorry i mean republican rule.. enjoy it, they'll be your last. then
you'll have to go buy some birkenstocks and hug trees with us
republicans 10 hours a week by federal mandate.

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> --- Ken <ken@butterfly.hjsoft.com> wrote:
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> > I don't think entropy did any time, he's been posting on other lists and
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> > the Republicans.
> 
> God help me and the rest of the republicans....
> 
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Subject: Re: Re: [ne-raves] awww jeah

Quoting peter lastname <meatsock@gmail.com>:
> whatever happened to that girl?

dunno. she was easy to troll though.
>
> i believe i got honorary JSM status after one particularly inspired
> email, but i never really had the skill to back it up on more than one
> occasion.

i don't believe it, you flamer!  ahh. we can start with haikus and work our way
up to other forms of poetry. i'll start:

pete has no last name
got skidmarks on his skivvies
radio show sux

now do you want to destroy us as DJ 900 Foot Robot?  make a video where they put
you in a refridgerator box and push you around suburbia!  it would be soooooooo
alterNative!

wub t-bone

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On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 21:05:04 -0400, t-bone <t-bone@acidgrave.com> wrote:
> i don't believe it, you flamer!  ahh. we can start with haikus and work our way
> up to other forms of poetry. i'll start:
> 
> pete has no last name
> got skidmarks on his skivvies
> radio show sux

damnit that's the last time i sell you my underpants on ebay! i
totally mentioned there was 'PLUS EXTRAS' in my auction description.

nina is not steak
but flesh wrapped in vinyl skin
plumps when you cook her

> now do you want to destroy us as DJ 900 Foot Robot?  make a video where they put
> you in a refridgerator box and push you around suburbia!  it would be soooooooo
> alterNative!

actually hopefully screamerclauz is coming up soon to spin on my radio
show in time to get some footage of me being murdered or something for
his next video so watch out kids!

> wub t-bone
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Subject: [ne-raves] .: New Mixes @ Dirtbox Radio : Sets from the Show & More...


Sup y'all?

Got some more mixes up on the site tonight.  Listed below are the ones
added:

6/6 & 6/13 Sets from Dirtbox Radio (ODJ, Jerel, illEffect, Ransom, Brian
Arse)
5/29 - House Party @ Hooligan's (Nature, Hooligan, Grimm Reeper)
New mix by Higgs tha Mighty

I'm too tired to do descriptions, but below are the links, 56k .rm and
192k .mp3 of each set, for streaming or download - whatever your flavor.

http://dirtboxradio.com/DirtboxRadio-20040606-1-ODJ.ram
http://dirtboxradio.com/mp3/DirtboxRadio-20040606-1-ODJ.mp3

http://dirtboxradio.com/DirtboxRadio-20040606-2-illEffect.ram
http://dirtboxradio.com/mp3/DirtboxRadio-20040606-2-illEffect.mp3

http://dirtboxradio.com/DirtboxRadio-20040606-3-Ransom.ram
http://dirtboxradio.com/mp3/DirtboxRadio-20040606-3-Ransom.mp3

http://dirtboxradio.com/DirtboxRadio-20040606-4-Brian_Arse.ram
http://dirtboxradio.com/mp3/DirtboxRadio-20040606-4-Brian_Arse.mp3

http://dirtboxradio.com/DirtboxRadio-20040613-ODJ+Jerel.ram
http://dirtboxradio.com/mp3/DirtboxRadio-20040613-ODJ+Jerel.mp3

http://dirtboxradio.com/20040529-Houseparty-Nature_Hooligan_Grimm_Reeper.ram
http://dirtboxradio.com/mp3/20040529-Houseparty-Nature_Hooligan_Grimm_Reeper.mp3

http://dirtboxradio.com/higgs_tha_mighty-parasympathetic_pathway.ram
http://dirtboxradio.com/mp3/higgs_tha_mighty-parasympathetic_pathway.mp3

there's a lot more shit on the site as well, including pretty much every
set we've had for the last two years, as well as some photos of random
shizzle.  Oh, and lineups, links, webcam, crap like that :)

Make sure to tune in this Sunday for F8, Abe Froman, and yer hosts ODJ &
Jerel.  Word up.

Jackson aka ODJ

Partners in Crime, www.DirtboxRadio.com, Trividual Productions, ALIAS

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Subject: [ne-raves] (DC) 06.25 :: NIGEL RICHARDS (611 Records, PHI) @ Club 5 :: Free Entry:Open Bar

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LUSH PROMOTIONS and EMC present
Pearl @ Club Five  every Friday=20

21+ . No Dress Code . $10 Admission All Night . Doors 10pm to 5am


:: Join (L)us(H) early for OPEN BAR -- 10PM - 11PM ::


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:: FRIDAY, JUNE 25th ::

Main Room

NIGEL RICHARDS (611 Records, Philly)

Rooftop

DJ OSO-FRESH

______________

.: DEEJAY BIOS :.

NIGEL RICHARDS
Techno


Nigel Richards is one of the most prominent figures in dance music today.=20
Globally recognized as a DJ, producer and entrepreneur behind the seminal=20
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g after=20
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 four=20
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 DJ=20
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21+ . No Dress Code . $10 admission . Doors 10 to 5

Club Five: 1214 B 18th Street NW, WDC

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Subject: [ne-raves] REMINDER!!  Tomorrow Night $5

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Dont worry kids...its only 30 min from Manhattan - and for the vehicle 
impaired, there is the Rockville Centre LIRR Station only 2 blocks 
north of the venue!!!  LIRR from Penn Station only takes 30 minutes as 
well!!  So you have no excuse!  This party is fun with a Capital J  ;)
 
The club is comfy too - for the loungers, they have alot of overstuffed 
leather couches and a long bar... and for the dancers, they have 100% 
hardwood floors and all boston acoustics sound.
 
OK....heres the info....
 
Drum N Breaks is proud to present the return of… 
 FUTURE INTELLIGENCE 
Long Islands longest running drum n bass/breakbeat weekly since 1999. 

THURSDAY JUNE 24, 2004 – opening night 
Continuing every Thursday night after, all summer long. 

With your residents 
MYK1CEE, KRAZYGLUE, and SHANEDADDY 

We have always taken pride in bringing you top notch talent at a very 
low price.  Please join us as we celebrate the return to our favorite LI 
venue, formerly Amphora, now Madison Hall. 

This year at F.I., the early part of the night will be breakbeats, 
funk, disco/soul, and some hiphop – drum n bass comes later in the evening. 

Thursday June 24 (Opening Night)

DJ WALLY (aka PISH POSH) 
(Proximity Minds, Cardboard City, http://www.djwallypishposh.com – NYC) 
*exclusive all-original hip-hop/abstract instrumental DJ set! 

One of the leading lights in the avant-gardist abstract beatz scene 
that’s rising from the NY dance underground, DJ Wally combines hip-hop 
sensibilities with dnb learnings and a strong taste for the absurdly silly 
and and abstractly surreal. We are proud to have Wally join us opening 
night for an exclusive showcase of all original material - hiphop and 
dnb fans alike won’t want to miss this! 
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Thursday July 1 (Fourth of July Weekend kickoff!) 

CAPITAL J 
(Just Jungle, Wikkid Records, MMI, http://www.djcapitalj.com – Toronto) 

Two years ago we brought J to Amphora and he tore the roof off, so we 
had to bring him back! If you missed this rare LI appearance by one of 
jungle’s finest, now’s your chance to see him in action. When 
turntablism meets jungle and ragga, there’s no telling what J has up his sleeve. 
Also be sure to check him out at One Nation July 3. 

(From Kelly: Last time Capital J spun at Future Intelligence, he fuckin 
ROCKED it!  He had the crowd moving like I've never seen before (and 
you all know how long Ive been going out for)...everyone ran to the 
dancefloor and shook their ass.  I'm def not going to miss this one.)

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Thursday July 8 

MASON with MC SHARPNESS 
(Gasm – Philly, Freak Recordings UK)(Nex-US, Substitution, Metalheadz 
US) 

Part of Philly’s SWARM collective, Mason has made some serious noise on 
the dnb scene this past year, with numerous releases on both US and UK 
labels, including the massive “Ruff Rugged and Raw” on Dylan’s Freak 
label. Joining him is MC Sharpness (part of Mental Sharp with Armanni 
Reign), hands-down one of the U.S.’s best dnb MCs. These two guys are 
reppin stateside for real, and we are happy to have them at Future 
Intelligence. 
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Thursday July 15 – KrazyGlue and Shane’s birthday bash! 

FEIGHT 
(Mantis SoundSystem, Personal Nightmare – DC) 

The name F8 has become synonymous with hard and tech-influenced blends 
of drum and bass. A crowd motivator for the past 6 years, Jeff’s fast 
paced, energetic sets are often fueled by his own dance-floor dominating 
production, and cities and states up and down the East Coast have all 
been influenced by his sound. Join us and be the first to hear one of 
the U.S.’s most promising up-and-coming dnb producers. 

(From Kelly Again: This is going to be INSANE, I think I might just 
have to take off work the 16th to party all night and recover!  John & 
Shanes Bday????  Surely a night not to miss and make sure to bring your 
cameras bc theres a kodak moment around every corner )


Location: 
MADISON HALL (formerly Amphora) 
210 Merrick Road 
Rockville Centre, NY 11570 
Only 30 minutes by car or train (LIRR) from NYC! 

21+ please bring valid ID 
$5 cover all night long 
doors at 10pm – 3:30am 
LADIES: 2 FOR 1 DRINKS TIL MIDNIGHT!! 

Directions, Info, Contact: 
516.247.5550 Drum N Breaks infoline 
516.536.2433 Madison Hall 
http://www.drumnbreaks.com 
http://www.proximityminds.com 
http://www.personalnightmare.com 
http://www.madisonhall.biz 
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	OPEN BAR


* GET ON THE $4 VIP LIST! -- INFO AT BOTTOM OF THIS EMAIL...
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E
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Thursday, 06.24.04 ::   ALIAS @NATION + Alchemy

DAWN OF THE ICONOCLAST

An iconoclast can be unpleasant company. The original iconoclasts destroyed
countless works of art, which were the subject of controversy among
Christians in the 8th and 9th centuries. In addition to destroying many
sculptures and paintings, those opposed to images attempted to have them
barred from display and veneration. Twelve centuries later, the modern
iconoclast attacks such things as ideas, beliefs and popular institutions
and opposes successful ventures of which they are not a part. Today the
iconoclast is commonly known as the =B3hater=B2.

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* 2 for 1 admission  9 p.m. - 10 p.m.
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OPEN BAR ::  9 p.m. - 10 p.m. + $5 pitchers all night!
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* 09:00-11:00   MICHAEL MAXIM [BREAKS]
* 11:00 - 12:15   PAT ST. CLAIR [drum=B9n=B9bass]
* 12:15 -01:30   JOE KOPASEK + IAN DANIELLA DOWNS [breaks]
* 01:30-02:45   DJS INNA + MISS BEHAVE [drum=B9n=B9bass]

Check to see who=B9s going to ALIAS this week:

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Check to see what people said about ALIAS last week:

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Be sure to check out CUBIK@NATION every Friday.

Open Bar:  9 p.m. - 10 p.m.

Upcoming Lineups:

06.25.04:  Tiesto + Roman Bath Foam Party
07.02.04:  FIRECRACKER 4:  Danny Howells + Fresh (Bad Company) + DJ SS +
APHRODITE (just added!!!)
07.09.04:  Deep Dish
07.16.04:  Astral Projection (live psytrance) + Jon =8C00=B9 Fleming
07.23.04:  Christmas in July with Miss Kittin + John Selway

For full details:  http://www.buzzlife.com


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after you pay.
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off the full price] the next night. If you sign up for the ALIAS list, but
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> .: DEEJAY BIOS :.
> 
> NIGEL RICHARDS
> Techno
> 
> 
> Nigel Richards is one of the most prominent figures in dance music today.

<snip>

> Also due 
> for Kinetic distribution is the "Six Eleven DJ Mix Series." The original
Volume 
> 1 was compiled and mixed by world-renowned drum and bass DJ Dieselboy, a 
> longtime friend to 611 and Richards. Volume 2 was Richardsâ€™ first
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> released in September 1998. Volume 3 will be mixed by celebrated Chicago 
> house DJ Derrick Carter and is due out in summer 2001.

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For those of you already on the list, we will be
sending out our online flier next week :)  We're
getting excited! :) :) :) :)

Happy Fun Ball Productions presents:

Confusing The Masses

6pm July 3 - 12pm July 4

2 areas of sound, 20+ DJs including John Tab, Jesse
Tittsworth, Bill Dieter, Deinfamous, and more.

On private land near Frederick, MD

Camping Encouraged

Cost: 2 bottles of water

More detailed information to be released shortly.

Please email us at happyfunballproductions@yahoo.com
if you are interested in being on our mailing list for
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Is that 2 bottles of water that you will have to turen around and repurchase later for $10 each?  or even for $5 each?  Can you bring additional water, food, etc?
 


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hi, kelly.

IF we do decide to resell the water, it will be for
50cents or $1 each.  it all depends on how many people
donate $.  we have put a few hundred into this so far,
and we haven't even bought supplies yet...so we would
at least like to make up the money we have spent.
you can feel free to bring whatever kind of food/drink
you want.  there is a long fire-pit type thing at
which you can attempt to cook hot
dogs/marshmallows/etc if you wish :)

all that we ask is NO NAUGHTY BAD ILLEGAL DRUGS and NO
UNDERAGE DRINKING.  or we'll kick your ass.  :)....you
know how it goes.... ;)  ;)


--- kelly d <supapimpny@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Is that 2 bottles of water that you will have to
> turen around and repurchase later for $10 each?  or
> even for $5 each?  Can you bring additional water,
> food, etc?
>  
> 
> 
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Subject: [ne-raves] Re: [dcraves] Re: [ne-raves] Free field party - july 3 - Frederick, MD

i think this crew is more about throwing a party like
they used to be...not trying to rip people off...but
you probably asked a question that a lot of people
were wondering.

wait till you guys see the full lineup

<3
!!!!!


--- Happy Fun Ball Productions
<happyfunballproductions@yahoo.com> wrote:
> hi, kelly.
> 
> IF we do decide to resell the water, it will be for
> 50cents or $1 each.  it all depends on how many
> people
> donate $.  we have put a few hundred into this so
> far,
> and we haven't even bought supplies yet...so we
> would
> at least like to make up the money we have spent.
> you can feel free to bring whatever kind of
> food/drink
> you want.  there is a long fire-pit type thing at
> which you can attempt to cook hot
> dogs/marshmallows/etc if you wish :)
> 
> all that we ask is NO NAUGHTY BAD ILLEGAL DRUGS and
> NO
> UNDERAGE DRINKING.  or we'll kick your ass. 
> :)....you
> know how it goes.... ;)  ;)
> 
> 
> --- kelly d <supapimpny@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Is that 2 bottles of water that you will have to
> > turen around and repurchase later for $10 each? 
> or
> > even for $5 each?  Can you bring additional water,
> > food, etc?
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > Happy Fun Ball Productions
> > <happyfunballproductions@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Cost: 2 bottles of water
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> damnit that's the last time i sell you my underpants on ebay! i
> totally mentioned there was 'PLUS EXTRAS' in my auction description.

i though that was referring to the name labels your mommy sewed into them.
>
pete's quite perceptive
he prooves inferior programs write inferior songs
part of the rave collective
on ebay he sells his toe jam and thongs
sigh
oh why oh why oh my oh me
wish i could be as jaded as he

:)

c'mon kids- it's fun!

> actually hopefully screamerclauz is coming up soon to spin on my radio
> show in time to get some footage of me being murdered or something for
> his next video so watch out kids!

everyone wants to be in screamerclauz's videos. he even tricked me into sending
him naughty pictures of myself for this elusive 'video'  DON'T FALL FOR IT IT'S
A RUSE!

it's ok though, b/c he drew me the bestest picture ever and as soon as i am done
reinstalling the os on the mac and hook up the scanner, i'll put it on the
ebsite so you sall can marvel as his skills.  i literally carry it with me for
protection :)

t-bone

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Personally, I am hoping that concerts, shows, and places to dance stay
smoke-free. (Don't really care about bars.) It has been awesome going
to a show and not having to breathe nasty cigarette smoke or having to
take a shower after I get home.

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personally i favor freedom over restrictions. the problem isn't
smoking, it's smoke and therefore can be delt with with proper
ventilation.

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> Personally, I am hoping that concerts, shows, and places to dance stay
> smoke-free. (Don't really care about bars.) It has been awesome going
> to a show and not having to breathe nasty cigarette smoke or having to
> take a shower after I get home.
> 
> It has encouraged me to take trips to NYC (from Philadelphia) when I
> wouldn't have otherwise.
> 
> Thank you Mayor Bloomberg!
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Subject: [ne-raves] Re: [renegadevirus] Re: [ne-raves] Smoking Permits

Quoting peter lastname <meatsock@gmail.com>:

> personally i favor freedom over restrictions. the problem isn't
> smoking, it's smoke and therefore can be delt with with proper
> ventilation.

agreed- it's about ventilation and freedom. i have asthma and still prefer the
option to smoke.  it's an addiction, have a little sympathy. alcoholism is the
only one left that is socially acceptable?  bah- take the fun outta life.
bloomberg can kiss pete's hairy ass :*

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Subject: RE: [ne-raves] Re: [renegadevirus] Re: [ne-raves] Smoking Permits

I'm going to have to agree with t-bone and pete on this one, I'm a
non-smoker and although it is nice to leave someplace and not smell like
smoke, I'd rather not have more restrictions and laws. It's all just a bunch
of crap.

JJ Brennan (DJ Incognito)
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Quoting peter lastname <meatsock@gmail.com>:

> personally i favor freedom over restrictions. the problem isn't
> smoking, it's smoke and therefore can be delt with with proper
> ventilation.

agreed- it's about ventilation and freedom. i have asthma and still prefer
the
option to smoke.  it's an addiction, have a little sympathy. alcoholism is
the
only one left that is socially acceptable?  bah- take the fun outta life.
bloomberg can kiss pete's hairy ass :*

t-bone

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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Re: [renegadevirus] Re: [ne-raves] Smoking Permits

Drinking alcohol does not hurt the people around you. Smoking does.
While I have sympathy for people who are addicted (and not just to
cigarettes), I have very little for individuals who choose to affect
negatively (and hurt) those around them because of their addiction.

Should I sympathize with a crack addict who tries to rob me? Should an
employer sympathize with an Internet addict not able to perform his
job? Should you sympathize with a drunk driver who causes a wreck
because he is an alcoholic?

Yes, the problem is smoke; However, smoking is where it originates,
and ventilation does not get rid of it. Why not have a little sympathy
for those who do not wish to breathe it?

I admit that I prefer as little government intervention in our
personal lives as possible, and have mixed feelings about the ban. But
if you think that smoking doesn't hurt those around you, you are in
denial.

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> 
> Quoting peter lastname <meatsock@gmail.com>:
> 
> > personally i favor freedom over restrictions. the problem isn't
> > smoking, it's smoke and therefore can be delt with with proper
> > ventilation.
> 
> agreed- it's about ventilation and freedom. i have asthma and still prefer the
> option to smoke.  it's an addiction, have a little sympathy. alcoholism is the
> only one left that is socially acceptable?  bah- take the fun outta life.
> bloomberg can kiss pete's hairy ass :*

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Not only that - but the people that put up entire walls and rooms to separate the smokerws and non-smokers....and the money spent on ventilation...was INSANE - for the city to then tell them to go screw themselves.
 
Some places spent upwards of $10k to ventilate to accomodate the smokers and non-smokers...then the money they spent went down the tubes anyways because even with ventilation, you couldnt smoke inside anyways?
 
At least they could have made up their mind in the beginning - not had all these people waste their hard earned cash.

peter lastname <meatsock@gmail.com> wrote:
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> take a shower after I get home.
> 
> It has encouraged me to take trips to NYC (from Philadelphia) when I
> wouldn't have otherwise.
> 
> Thank you Mayor Bloomberg!
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Quoting "41.999" <answer42@gmail.com>:
> Drinking alcohol does not hurt the people around you. Smoking does.

living in nyc, the air quality from about 1998 was equivalent to smoking 17
cigarettesaday.  Deisel trucks and idling school buses create TONS more air
pollution than a person smoking right next to you.  Restrictions on vehicles
are a much more effective way of air preservation than the smoking ban.  if air
quality is your concern, fight the real culprits.

> While I have sympathy for people who are addicted (and not just to
> cigarettes), I have very little for individuals who choose to affect
> negatively (and hurt) those around them because of their addiction.

few addictions effect ppl positively. c'mon now.
>
> Should I sympathize with a crack addict who tries to rob me?

your analogy only worksif a cigarette addict robs you. it's not the same thing.

> Should an employer sympathize with an Internet addict not able to perform his
> job?

i have never heard of such a thing.do insurnce companies recognize this as a
legitimate problem that warrants medical assistance?

>Should you sympathize with a drunk driver who causes a wreck because he is an
alcoholic?

getting hit by a car and sitting next to a smoker are not analogous.  why- you
want to start the newest group, RACS? (ravers against cigarette smokers)

> But if you think that smoking doesn't hurt those around you, you are in
> denial.

there are so many other industries that harm the air more than ppl smoking. i'd
rather see the epa go after paint factores and deisel trucks before smokers. if
you are truely concerned about air quality, look into it. see WHO is polluting
before taking actions against ppl's freedoms.

t-bone

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I'd be for smoking cigs in public if I was also allowed to pop e pillz and
smoke weed.  Neither is gonna happen.  So why allow one drug over another?
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On Thu, 24 Jun 2004, t-bone wrote:

> Quoting peter lastname <meatsock@gmail.com>:
>
> > personally i favor freedom over restrictions. the problem isn't
> > smoking, it's smoke and therefore can be delt with with proper
> > ventilation.
>
> agreed- it's about ventilation and freedom. i have asthma and still prefer the
> option to smoke.  it's an addiction, have a little sympathy. alcoholism is the
> only one left that is socially acceptable?  bah- take the fun outta life.
> bloomberg can kiss pete's hairy ass :*
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Why should I have to deal with a drug addicts addiction?  I don't wanna
see people shoot up nor do I wanna see people smoking nicotene.  And for
those who have managed to quit, being around the drug is that last
thing they need...especially when it's something that will probably
ultimately kill them in a very painful way.

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On Thu, 24 Jun 2004, peter lastname wrote:

> personally i favor freedom over restrictions. the problem isn't
> smoking, it's smoke and therefore can be delt with with proper
> ventilation.
>
> On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 12:47:39 -0400, 41.999 <answer42@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Personally, I am hoping that concerts, shows, and places to dance stay
> > smoke-free. (Don't really care about bars.) It has been awesome going
> > to a show and not having to breathe nasty cigarette smoke or having to
> > take a shower after I get home.
> >
> > It has encouraged me to take trips to NYC (from Philadelphia) when I
> > wouldn't have otherwise.
> >
> > Thank you Mayor Bloomberg!
> >
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--- "41.999" <answer42@gmail.com> wrote:
> Drinking alcohol does not hurt the people around
> you. 

uhm.... tell that to every child of an alcoholic
parent.  To every family member of those lost to
DUI-based accidents. 

While im not saying EtOH should be banned or anything,
Im just pointing out an inherent flaw in your argument.


		
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well for one, cigarettes don't make you stupid, nor do they make you
wear funfur, so yeah, sure, it's a slippery slope but at least smoking
cigarettes makes you look COOL. i really think drugs should be
regulated on a scale directly related to how dumb you feel in the
morning for doing what you did the previous night. since cigarettes
are undoubtedly the only thing getting 90% of the world out of bed in
the morning, they would be given out for free and ketamine would cost
9000 dollars. remember, just because you're a hippy dosen't mean
anyone else is tuned into your plurodynamic vibrations.

On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 14:10:36 -0400 (EDT), KaNdE KiD KeNNy!
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> 
> I'd be for smoking cigs in public if I was also allowed to pop e pillz and
> smoke weed.  Neither is gonna happen.  So why allow one drug over another?
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> > Quoting peter lastname <meatsock@gmail.com>:
> >
> > > personally i favor freedom over restrictions. the problem isn't
> > > smoking, it's smoke and therefore can be delt with with proper
> > > ventilation.
> >
> > agreed- it's about ventilation and freedom. i have asthma and still prefer the
> > option to smoke.  it's an addiction, have a little sympathy. alcoholism is the
> > only one left that is socially acceptable?  bah- take the fun outta life.
> > bloomberg can kiss pete's hairy ass :*
> >
> > t-bone
> >
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I'm just really happy something other than a club event is going on.
The club events got stale a few years ago so it's nice to see some
progression or regression as some may see it back to the undergound where we don't
have to pay $20 to get in, $10 on a drink, and have bone headed bouncers
looking for people to beat up.  Hell, I could careless if they asked for
$5 cause it's certainly better than anything else thats been going on.

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On Thu, 24 Jun 2004, Ms Manners wrote:

> holy crap please just don't go.  i have never seen anybody bitch like
> this about a free party before.  and guess what, genius, we all got
> that email.  super cool.  people are throwing a free party and
> considering ways to break even.  stay home, you're a whiner and what
> you need is a kick in the head, not a free party.
> take some prozac, please.
>
> - kelly
>
>
>
> On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 07:39:46 -0700 (PDT), kelly d <supapimpny@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > I dont know kids...I got an email from the Happy Fun Ball kid that says that they MIGHT be selling the water for about a buck - which is nothing...but because its water, it technically isnt a free party.  Believe me, Im not bitching about a few bucks ($3 if its a poland spring bottle)...just making a statement.  You can all scream & bitch & whatever you want, but a free party means you come with nothing but yourself and get in.
> >
> > So, yea - i think its stupid too - why have the hassle of selling water that you make people donate when people can bring extra water for themselves and not have to pay for something that they brought.  In the long run, the producers will wind up with a whole lotta water and no cash.  A donation box by the dj tables would be a better idea - esp if youre looking to make back the few bucks that you spent.  Water will do no good - especially bc people will be stopping at the store to get water to enter, then Im sure they will be stocking up for themselves.
> >
> > Its early...hope I made some sense.
> >
> > Kelly.
> >
> >
> > Vedant <uhokay@gmail.com> wrote:
> > i think that's stupid. hi, we're going to sell the water that you brought....
> >
> > On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 23:21:23 -0400, Joshua Vance
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > yea dont u think if they wanted to make money off of it, they would just
> > > charge u to get in????
> > >
> > > "The thing I love the most about smokiing Crack is the smoke" A Crack
> > > Whore
> > >
> > > From: Michael Cloppert
> > > Reply-To: mike@cloppert.org
> > > To: kelly d
> > > CC: dcraves@hyperreal.org
> > > Subject: Re: [dcraves] Re: [ne-raves] Free field party - july 3 - Frederick,
> > > MD
> > > Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 17:18:43 -0400 (EDT)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > No, it's 2 bottles of water we throw into a bin. If you want water later,
> > > you grab from the bin. If you never get to drink your water, too bad.
> > > It's a free party, deal. Yes, if you want you can bring extra water if
> > > you're worried about some crackhead drinking all the water and leaving you
> > > with none.
> > >
> > > It's BYO* So bring whatever you'd like to drink, as long as it includes 2
> > > bottles of water to donate to the cause. Alcohol is permitted. Please be
> > > respectful to the venue owner and throw away whatever bottles, etc. you
> > > bring.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > On Wed, 23 Jun 2004, kelly d wrote:
> > >
> > > > Is that 2 bottles of water that you will have to turen around and
> > > repurchase later for $10 each? or even for $5 each? Can you bring
> > > additional water, food, etc?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Happy Fun Ball Productions wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Cost: 2 bottles of water
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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Re: [renegadevirus] Re: [ne-raves] Smoking Permits

it's funny because it's true. the only reason that smoking is no
longer what most people consider cool is on account of an extensive
propoganda campaign launched by scientists to sway the minds of the
populace, and EVERYBODY knows scientists sure as fuck aren't cool.
they obviously felt slighted by the coolness of the cool kids and
decided to be all like 'oh dude actually you thought you were cool but
you sucked the whole time and only i knew it' but try telling that to
james damn dean motherfucker.

you don't mess with james dean. he'll knife your ass.

xoxo
 
                            -pete

On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 08:08:44 -0400, Brennan, James PO (ACTNY)
<jbrennan@actny.uscg.mil> wrote:
> 
> I hope you were joking when you said smoking makes you look cool.
> 
> JJ Brennan (DJ Incognito)
> People who can't dance, blame the DJ.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: peter lastname [mailto:meatsock@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 11:13 PM
> To: KaNdE KiD KeNNy!
> Cc: t-bone; ne-raves@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Re: [renegadevirus] Re: [ne-raves] Smoking
> Permits
> 
> well for one, cigarettes don't make you stupid, nor do they make you
> wear funfur, so yeah, sure, it's a slippery slope but at least smoking
> cigarettes makes you look COOL. i really think drugs should be
> regulated on a scale directly related to how dumb you feel in the
> morning for doing what you did the previous night. since cigarettes
> are undoubtedly the only thing getting 90% of the world out of bed in
> the morning, they would be given out for free and ketamine would cost
> 9000 dollars. remember, just because you're a hippy dosen't mean
> anyone else is tuned into your plurodynamic vibrations.
> 
> On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 14:10:36 -0400 (EDT), KaNdE KiD KeNNy!
> <ken@butterfly.hjsoft.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I'd be for smoking cigs in public if I was also allowed to pop e pillz and
> > smoke weed.  Neither is gonna happen.  So why allow one drug over another?
> > And alcohol is gonna go next.  Their slowly making it harder and harder to
> > drink anywhere other than ones home.
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> > > Quoting peter lastname <meatsock@gmail.com>:
> > >
> > > > personally i favor freedom over restrictions. the problem isn't
> > > > smoking, it's smoke and therefore can be delt with with proper
> > > > ventilation.
> > >
> > > agreed- it's about ventilation and freedom. i have asthma and still
> prefer the
> > > option to smoke.  it's an addiction, have a little sympathy. alcoholism
> is the
> > > only one left that is socially acceptable?  bah- take the fun outta
> life.
> > > bloomberg can kiss pete's hairy ass :*
> > >
> > > t-bone
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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Re: [renegadevirus] Re: [ne-raves] Smoking Permits

On Thu, Jun 24, 2004 at 02:09:27PM -0400, 41.999 wrote:
> Drinking alcohol does not hurt the people around you. Smoking does.
> While I have sympathy for people who are addicted (and not just to
> cigarettes), I have very little for individuals who choose to affect
> negatively (and hurt) those around them because of their addiction.

The "second-hand smoke causes health problems" theory is
pseudo-science.  It doesn't stand up to the rigors of proof the same
way directly-inhaled smoke causing health problems does.  The politics
of the issue have trumped the science.

There is no proven health problems from second hand smoke.  There are
far more things you will encounter during your day that are more
likely to kill you (e.g your car).

Consider this - what industry's bottom line depends on knowing what
activities are likely to cause health problems?  *Health Insurance*.
And when you get health insurance, do they care how often you go to
clubs that permit smoking, if you are a non-smoker?  Do you get a
discount for living in a state with the smoking ban, like California
or New York?

[snip sketchy analogies]

> Yes, the problem is smoke; However, smoking is where it originates,
> and ventilation does not get rid of it. Why not have a little sympathy
> for those who do not wish to breathe it?

Because they are free to not breathe it by not going in the
smoke-filled establishment.  These places are supposed to be *private
property*, so let the owner decide if they want smoke.  If you don't
like smoke, take your business elsewhere.

FWIW, I think cigarette smoke stinks to high heaven.


Matt

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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Re: [renegadevirus] Re: [ne-raves] Smoking Permits

On Thu, Jun 24, 2004 at 05:52:12PM -0700, Frank Scott wrote:
> --- "41.999" <answer42@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Drinking alcohol does not hurt the people around
> > you. 
> 
> uhm.... tell that to every child of an alcoholic
> parent.  To every family member of those lost to
> DUI-based accidents. 
> 
> While im not saying EtOH should be banned or anything,
> Im just pointing out an inherent flaw in your argument.

This is a bad comparison.  The original argument was that smoking
*directly* causes health problems for innocent bystanders.  That begs
the question of whether or not that claim is true (I have seen no
proof that it is true), but that is different than what you describe
above, which are indirect effects caused by the user, not the drug.
Vehicular homicide doesn't just magically happen when people drink -
some dumbass too drunk to drive still decides to get behind the wheel
of the car, and the alcohol doesn't cause that, his dumbassedness
does.

IOW, in your examples, the problem is *people*, not booze.


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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Re: [renegadevirus] Re: [ne-raves] Smoking Permits

>The original argument was that smoking
>*directly* causes health problems for innocent bystanders.

as does car exhaust, camp fires, and the sun.

Air force jet repairmen receive severe damage to their hearing, as do 
security guards at rock concerts. Farm workers often spend numerous hours in 
the sun getting sunburned whch may lead to skin cancer.

So what makes this situation different from all the above?

John Q Public's involved.

this arguement has less to do with hurting innocent bystanders and more to 
do with "i dont smoke, therefore you shouldn't either".

see, john Q doesn't have an excuse. If he doesn't want to be around 
cigarette smoke he doesn't have to be. He can leave. But he doesn't want to 
leave. he wants to stay. but people smoke in the places where he wants to 
be.

So he says "well, these pour souls are being forced to work in highly 
dangerous, smoke filled situations and this shouldnt be allowed to happen!"

but ol' johnny q doesnt remember that A: people aren't being forced to work 
in any of these places, they can quit if they want to. B: The lower 
someone's economic class level, the more likely it is that they smoke 
cigarettes (amoung other more harmful things).

if someone is in a class level that's low enough to FORCE them to work in a 
smoke filled diner, chances are that they themselves smoke... this isnt to 
say that everyone who works in a diner smokes... just that if someone's in 
that low of a class then chances are they do smoke. So more than likely, 
your arguing on behalf of a minority that's so small it's hardly worth 
mentioning.

but "everyone deserves the chance to work in a safe environment" right?

then here's what they do... they work in the "smoke mines" of massachusettes 
just long enough to catch a bus ticket to ::insert prosperous city here:: 
where they can crawl (because their lungs are so filled with black tar, they 
cannot walk) into a place of business and apply for work.

Here's what Massachusettes and maine should do to end all arguments.

For John Q: Put a sign on the door that says "SMOKING INSIDE". And those who 
mind cigarette smoke can go elsewhere.


For Jane Yoman: Put a checkbox on the application that says "by checking 
this box i acknowledge that I know the risks of working in a restaraunt that 
allows cigarette smoking".

and everyone's happy.

It's blows my mind that someone cannot legaly open a place of business and 
allow smoking, even if they're the only person employed.

-Drew Blair
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to letters, numbers, punctuation marks and other characters. 

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anyone who had anything to do with creating the dns had to have.

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--- Matt <neraves@beyondzero.net> wrote:

> 
> The "second-hand smoke causes health problems"
> theory is
> pseudo-science.  It doesn't stand up to the rigors
> of proof the same
> way directly-inhaled smoke causing health problems
> does.  The politics
> of the issue have trumped the science.
> 

Yeah these all look like pseudoscience, p<0.05 means
not significant right?  ORs of >3 = no correlation,
right?  Im so bad with this statistical stuff!
</sarcasm>

Effects of "second-hand" smoke on structure and
function of fibroblasts, cells that are critical for
tissue repair and remodeling
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?tool=pubmed&pubmedid=15066202

Secondhand smoke and earaches in adolescents: the
Florida Youth Cohort Study.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=14668078

Inhalation of steady-state sidestream smoke from one
cigarette promotes arteriosclerotic plaque
development.
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Subject: [ne-raves] TODAY - BLENDING FORMZ - Complete Info & DIREX - FREE THIS SUN


Alright...here's the info.

SUNDAY JUNE 27th

BLENDING FORMZ 3
100% FREE
FLUSHING MEADOW PARK!
10AM-7PM (OR LATER!)
2 AREAS OF SOUND

CTAG
DESTRO
THE GERM
INVISIBLE FRIEND
KAZU
MONRO SECOR
ROUND-N-ROUND
MINDGAME
DANK
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BIG EARS
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HOW HARD
INTEGRITY
JEN MAS
KRAZY GLUE
LINK
MAMA C
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http://www.Kindkidz.com
http://www.HardMindProductions.com

By Car:

>From New Jersey:

Enter Manhattan from the Holland Tunnel
or Lincoln Tunnel. From the Holland Or Lincoln
Tunnel, make your way to the east side of Manhattan
and take the Queens Midtown Tunnel which is located
off 2nd Avenue near 37th Street. After exiting the
Queens Midtown Tunnel, merge onto the Long Island
Expressway East (495) and take it to Exit 22 for the
Van Wyck Expressway South (678) . From the Van Wyck
Expressway South, take exit 11 for Jewel Ave/Flushing
Meadow Pk. Exit into the park. We will be on your right
hand side.

Alternate (Avoid Manhattan traffic!) Take Rt 80 East/95 N
to the George Washington Bridge. Cross the GWB and
continue on the Cross Bronx Expressway / 95 N. Follow this
to the Whitestone Bridge. Cross the Whitestone Bridge and
get onto 678 South. It will turn into the Van Wyck Expressway
South (678). Take Exit 11 for Jewel Ave/Flushing Meadow Pk.
Exit into the park. We will be on your right hand side.

>From Upstate NY:

Take the New York Thruway (87 S) to the Cross Bronx
Expressway /95 N Follow to the Whitestone Bridge.
Follow Directions directly above.

>From Brooklyn:

Take the Belt Parkway East to the Van Wyck Expressway
North to Exit 12A. On exit ramp make first left under
highway (U-turn) and next right into park. We will be on
your right hand side.

>From Staten Island:

Take 278 East to the Verrazanno Bridge. Continue on 278
East (Brooklyn Queens Expressway/ BQE) to the Long Island
Expressway East (495) Take Exit 22 for the Van Wyck
Expressway South. Follow directions above from "Alternate
(Avoid Manhattan Traffic)".

>From Eastern Long Island:

Take the Long Island Expressway (495) Westbound to Exit
22B College Point Blvd/Van Wyck Expwy. Make your first
left onto College Point Blvd. Continue straight onto the service
road to the lake entrance on your right side. We will be on your
right hand side.

>From Connecticut, Rhode Island, Massachusetts:

Take 91 South to 95 South or simply stay on 95 South to the
Cross Bronx Expressway/ 95 South. Take the Whitestone
Bridge and follow directions above from "Alternate
(Avoid Manhattan Traffic)".

By Subway:

#7 train to Shea Stadium / Willets Point. 15 minute walk
through park to Boathouse.

By Bus:

Q65A along Jewel Ave #58 from Main Street

The key to finding us lies in these key factors! Flushing
Meadows Park is HUUUGE, so keep these points in mind:

1. Remember the Van Wyck Expressway. We are located
right off of that just below the Long Island Expressway.

2. Remember Meadow Lake. We are located right next to that.
Ask for it if you're lost.
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Hey Guys, new to the list! I came across your site at a weird hour of  the 
morning and was wondering what the rave and dance music community is like on  
the East Coast.  I grew up in the Boston area and was raving and DJing WAY  back 
in 1994-1996.  I left to come to medical school in Nevada, and in that  time 
became an accomplished DJ in Reno as well as being one of the many DJs and  
promoters who resurrected our local scene from 20 party kids in 1997 (that was a 
 'big' show then!) to now over 2000 at an event (our last show).  I love  
what this town has become, but i'm graduating medical school next year and my  
residency will hopefully take me back to Boston.  I'm trying to get some  
contacts back there with promoters. I will be selling my 80,000W sound  system out 
here to my friend who will continue my legacy, and hope to get back  into DJing 
in Boston, rebuilding sound someday when my med school debt is paid  off, and 
throwing shows again..
I've been graced as a resident here at the only dance music nightclub,  
playing 4 hour sets of Funky House, Deep House, SF house, UK Hard House, and  
drummy techno weekly, and getting to play a 'whos who' list of major world DJs  
until we closed last year because the owner felt we needed another hiphop club  
(the club now has THREE hiphop rooms, no dance music).  I'm sad about it,  but 
i feel that the 'rave' has become a new reality here.  
Anyhow, if you can tell me who is who left in Boston i'd love to talk to  
some folks and get to know the scene a little better.  The rave community  in 
Reno has been my family for almost 8 years now, and i really hope to  find new 
family in Boston... you guys are my best hope right now as the other  DJs i have 
worked with in Boston are very enmeshed in the club scene (mostly  Paul 
Dailey, my mentor and best friend there) and dont know where to point  me!
Thanks!
>>Domenic "DJ Kling" Martinello, MSIV    
Fellow raver, future doctor


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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Help a Returning DJ?

it sounds like you'll fit in just fine with the scene out here. 

however if you want to do things correctly just buy a generator and
some speakers and throw free parties. but why on earth would an
accomplished dj with a legacy and a lexus want to do that? here is to
your future, DJ MSIV, and heres to hoping ALL your parties are massive
where all the ravers are above averave and all paid $57 at the door.

                -the legendary dirty underground dj meatsock, FUQ2, MSIPDQ

On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 07:06:04 EDT, domatunr@aol.com <domatunr@aol.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hey Guys, new to the list! I came across your site at a weird hour of  the
> morning and was wondering what the rave and dance music community is like on
> the East Coast.  I grew up in the Boston area and was raving and DJing WAY  back
> in 1994-1996.  I left to come to medical school in Nevada, and in that  time
> became an accomplished DJ in Reno as well as being one of the many DJs and
> promoters who resurrected our local scene from 20 party kids in 1997 (that was a
>  'big' show then!) to now over 2000 at an event (our last show).  I love
> what this town has become, but i'm graduating medical school next year and my
> residency will hopefully take me back to Boston.  I'm trying to get some
> contacts back there with promoters. I will be selling my 80,000W sound  system out
> here to my friend who will continue my legacy, and hope to get back  into DJing
> in Boston, rebuilding sound someday when my med school debt is paid  off, and
> throwing shows again..
> I've been graced as a resident here at the only dance music nightclub,
> playing 4 hour sets of Funky House, Deep House, SF house, UK Hard House, and
> drummy techno weekly, and getting to play a 'whos who' list of major world DJs
> until we closed last year because the owner felt we needed another hiphop club
> (the club now has THREE hiphop rooms, no dance music).  I'm sad about it,  but
> i feel that the 'rave' has become a new reality here.
> Anyhow, if you can tell me who is who left in Boston i'd love to talk to
> some folks and get to know the scene a little better.  The rave community  in
> Reno has been my family for almost 8 years now, and i really hope to  find new
> family in Boston... you guys are my best hope right now as the other  DJs i have
> worked with in Boston are very enmeshed in the club scene (mostly  Paul
> Dailey, my mentor and best friend there) and dont know where to point  me!
> Thanks!
> >>Domenic "DJ Kling" Martinello, MSIV
> Fellow raver, future doctor
> 
>

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Subject: [ne-raves] .: Tonight on Dirtbox Radio (6/27) : F8, Abe Froman, ODJ, Jerel :.


Whassup y'all?

Tonight Jerel and I will be joined by two stellar junglists, to bring you
yet another tight ass show.  Representin' the Mantis Sound System, F8 will
be comin thru to bless us with the dark and dirty, as well as some
original production.  Comin' all the way down from Fredrick area is Abe
Froman, returning from baby hiatus.  Abe brings the danga' with big
dancefloor ch00nz and wicked mixing skills.


Here's the timeslots, in EDT:

07-09pm - ODJ & Jerel
09-10:30pm - F8
10:30-12am - Abe Froman
12-?? - Afterhours

Looks like we'll be graced by another of the MSS crew, Psykofly, also
swingin in with some fresh dubs of his own, for some afterhours action!


Linkz:

Destroyer.net (128k):
http://64.246.60.15:8800/listen.pls

Jungletrain.net
(64k): http://jungletrain.net/64kbps.pls
(24k): http://jungletrain.net/24kbps.pls

webcam: http://dirtboxradio.com/webcam

chatroom: http://jungletrain.net/index.php?page=2&subpage=0&color=2
 (irc.jungletrain.net #jungletrain)

AIM: dirtboxradio


Don't forget to peep the site from time to time, for upcoming lineups,
photos, archives, crew booking dates, and other such goodies.

And if you didn't know already, Dirtbox Kru is teamin up with Alchemy next
Sunday to bring you some phat 4th of July action.  More details on the
site!

>>>  www.dirtboxradio.com  <<<

EZ!

Jackson aka ODJ

Partners in Crime, www.DirtboxRadio.com, Trividual Productions, ALIAS

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Subject: Fwd: Re: [ne-raves] Help a Returning DJ?

 
 Sorry, sir, but there is only enough room for one
 house dj/future physician on the east coast and esp.
 on this list.  I respectfully request your prompt
 resignation from NE-raves.
 
 Thank you.
 
 DJ Not on MY watch
> 
> 
> --- DomatUNR@aol.com wrote:
> >  
> > Hey Guys, new to the list! I came across your site
> > at a weird hour of  the 
> > morning and was wondering what the rave and dance
> > music community is like on  
> > the East Coast.  I grew up in the Boston area and
> > was raving and DJing WAY  back 
> > in 1994-1996.  I left to come to medical school in
> > Nevada, and in that  time 
> > became an accomplished DJ in Reno as well as being
> > one of the many DJs and  
> > promoters who resurrected our local scene from 20
> > party kids in 1997 (that was a 
> >  'big' show then!) to now over 2000 at an event
> (our
> > last show).  I love  
> > what this town has become, but i'm graduating
> > medical school next year and my  
> > residency will hopefully take me back to Boston. 
> > I'm trying to get some  
> > contacts back there with promoters. I will be
> > selling my 80,000W sound  system out 
> > here to my friend who will continue my legacy, and
> > hope to get back  into DJing 
> > in Boston, rebuilding sound someday when my med
> > school debt is paid  off, and 
> > throwing shows again..
> > I've been graced as a resident here at the only
> > dance music nightclub,  
> > playing 4 hour sets of Funky House, Deep House, SF
> > house, UK Hard House, and  
> > drummy techno weekly, and getting to play a 'whos
> > who' list of major world DJs  
> > until we closed last year because the owner felt
> we
> > needed another hiphop club  
> > (the club now has THREE hiphop rooms, no dance
> > music).  I'm sad about it,  but 
> > i feel that the 'rave' has become a new reality
> > here.  
> > Anyhow, if you can tell me who is who left in
> Boston
> > i'd love to talk to  
> > some folks and get to know the scene a little
> > better.  The rave community  in 
> > Reno has been my family for almost 8 years now,
> and
> > i really hope to  find new 
> > family in Boston... you guys are my best hope
> right
> > now as the other  DJs i have 
> > worked with in Boston are very enmeshed in the
> club
> > scene (mostly  Paul 
> > Dailey, my mentor and best friend there) and dont
> > know where to point  me!
> > Thanks!
> > >>Domenic "DJ Kling" Martinello, MSIV    
> > Fellow raver, future doctor
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
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Subject: [ne-raves] 07.01 :: K4NDY IS D4NDY but LIQUOR IS QUICKER :: ALIAS@Nation :
	DnB+Breaks : OPEN BAR


* GET ON THE $4 VIP LIST! -- INFO AT BOTTOM OF THIS EMAIL...
* IF YOU ALREADY EMAILED ME YOUR REDUCED LIST, I DID RECEIVE IT.  IF YOU AR=
E
A DJ on this night PLEASE SEND YOUR LISTS ASAP...


ALIAS Thursdays | Drum =8Cn=B9 Bass & Breaks | upstairs lounge Nation-DC
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Thursday, 07.01.04 ::   ALIAS @NATION + Alchemy

K4NDY IS D4NDY BUT LIQUOR IS QUICKER...

Admission ::=20

* 2 for 1 admission  9 p.m. - 10 p.m.
* $7 (usually) after 10 p.m.
* $4 (always) vip list after 10 p.m.
* Email [alias_agent_johntab@mac.com] to get on the $4 vip list! see bottom
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OPEN BAR ::  9 p.m. - 10 p.m. + $5 pitchers all night!
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* 09:00-11:00   junior mineo [drum=B9n=B9bass]
* 11:00 - 12:15   LOGIC theorist [breaks/UK GARAGE/electro]
* 12:15 -01:30   abe froman [drum=B9n=B9bass]
* 01:30-02:45   Jen lasher + rob p. [breaks]

Check to see who=B9s going to ALIAS this week:

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Check to see what people said about ALIAS last week:

http://www.buzzlife.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3D38322


Be sure to check out CUBIK@NATION every Friday.

Open Bar:  9 p.m. - 10 p.m.

Upcoming Lineups:

07.02.04:  FIRECRACKER 4:  Danny Howells + Fresh (Bad Company) + DJ SS +
APHRODITE (just added!!!)
07.09.04:  Deep Dish
07.16.04:  Astral Projection (live psytrance) + Jon =8C00=B9 Fleming
07.23.04:  Christmas in July with Miss Kittin + John Selway
07.30.04:  Scott Henry + Ed Rush . Optical . Ryme Tyme

For full details:  http://www.buzzlife.com


VIP Reduced List:  Email me by 6:30 p.m. each Thursday with an unlimited
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Subject: [ne-raves] CAPITAL J , * $5 *, This Thursday 6/1

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Drum N Breaks is proud to present the return of

FUTURE INTELLIGENCE

Long Islands longest running drum n bass/breakbeat weekly since 1999!

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THIS THURSDAY JULY 1, 2004

Fourth of July weekend kickoff!

 

CAPITAL J.

(Just Jungle, Wikkid Records, MMI, www.djcapitalj.com - Toronto) 12:00-1:00AM

Two years ago we brought J to Amphora and he tore the roof off, so we had to bring him back! If you missed this rare LI appearance by one of jungles finest, now is your chance to see him in action. When turntablism meets jungle and ragga, there's no telling what J has up his sleeve. Also be sure to check him out at One Nation this Saturday July 3rd: www.stuckonearth.com and www.columnsofknowledge.com 

 

KRAZYGLUE and LINK 

(DrumNBreaks LI, Cardboard City NYC) 1:00-close

 

MYK1CEE 

(DrumNBreaks LI, Cardboard City NYC, Proximity Minds) 10:30-12:00am

 

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Location:

MADISON HALL (formerly Amphora)

210 Merrick Road

Rockville Centre, NY 11570

Only 30 minutes by car or train (LIRR) from NYC!

 

21+ please bring valid ID

$5 cover all night long

doors at 10pm - 3:30am

LADIES 2 FOR 1 DRINKS TIL MIDNIGHT!!!!!!

and BEER SPECIALS

 

Directions, Info, Contact:

516.247.5550 Drum N Breaks infoline

516.536.2433 Madison Hall

www.drumnbreaks.com <---------directions can be printed off site

www.proximityminds.com

www.personalnightmare.com

www.madisonhall.biz

info@personalnightmare.com 




		
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