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Subject: [ne-raves] .: Dirtbox Radio 5/2 :. Return to Beat Street!


Word up homie G's

We have a special presentation for you this weekend, brought to you by
Dirtbox Radio and Hypnotik Logik....

RETURN TO BEAT STREET.  read on...

Switchstance vs. Joe Kopasek...Yes, you heard me right.  For one night
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wanting more. and more. and more.  This is something that if you miss, you
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Who knows if this is something that will ever happen again, so I think
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On this evening, The mighty sinestro has a treat for you all.  Sunday
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he can play the funky ghettoness better then almost anyone around here.
What would be a Dirtbox Radio without a little ghetto?  So for this night,
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you're about to find out why.  If you have not heard Krunk 001, get out
there and get yourself one, and be ready for some real ghetto shit!

So werd, it's something different, and something good.  Very good.
Timeslots and links follow...

07-08:30pm EST - Jesse Tittsworth
08:30-10pm EST - Sinestro
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Big fuckin ups to Ian of Hypnotik Logik for hookin the lineup up.  Dude's
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Looks like Jason Jinx from breakbeat science is going to throw a benefit
party for db and is also taking donations via paypal.

http://knottyknotty.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=3D22569&postdays=3D0&postorde=
r=3Dasc&start=3D90

KeNNy!

aim: munkeybuttt
yahoo: jungleboogiemonster
http://ghetto.hjsoft.com
<Insert humorous and witty quote here>

On Fri, 30 Apr 2004, Edward Smith wrote:

> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 18:52:36 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Edward Smith <eddie2242000@yahoo.com>
> To: ne-raves@hyperreal.org
> Subject: [ne-raves] Bad stuff..
>
>    Damn, this makes me REALLY ANGRY!!!! 10 years ago,
> the
> scene was much, much, healthier than this shit. I want
> to do two things.
> A.)Round up a posse and go lynch this "Scotto" dude,
> B.)Try and organize a relief fund for this dude who
> just got fucked over...Im in no position to do either
> of these...except the lynching. Any Ideas?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > >This is what happened.
> > >
> > >Two years ago Scotto (aka Scott Osman, self
> > proclaimed lighting
> > >genius) called me and asked if I wanted to do a
> > NASA 10 year anniversary
> > >party. I asked if he had a venue, and he said no
> > but would find one.
> > >
> > >A year later he called again and asked the same
> > thing and I asked if he
> > >had a venue. No, he said, but he would find one.
> > >
> > >6 months ago still nothing had happened, so I
> > approached Mike Bindra at
> > >Arc, which is the site of the original club, the
> > Shelter, which held NASA.
> > >
> > >Mike said that he was interested and that we should
> > just simply rent the
> > >club from him. I explained that I was pretty sure
> > that Scotto would not
> > >have any money & I was not really comfortable
> > putting up the whole thing,
> > >especially as I didn=E2=80=99t have regular income from a
> > record company job to
> > >support me. Mike came up with a deal - he would pay
> > all the up front
> > >expenses and costs & then give Scotto and me a 40%
> > split of the door
> > >receipts after all expenses were paid back.
> > >
> > >We agreed and Scotto and I started to organize
> > things. Scotto was given a
> > >contract to sign by the club. I didn=E2=80=99t want to
> > sign it because I did not
> > >have a LLC (limited liability company) to protect
> > me if something went
> > >wrong, and Scotto has a company called Drop. Scotto
> > and Arc kept sending
> > >the contract back and forth, negotiating details,
> > till it was finally
> > >signed.
> > >
> > >Within minutes of signing Scotto was breaching the
> > contract by selling
> > >tickets through a ticket outlet not approved by
> > Arc, Ticket Leap. We were
> > >informed that those names on will call through
> > Ticket Leap would not be
> > >honored unless Scotto produced all the ticket money
> > before the event.
> > >Scotto told me not to worry.
> > >
> > >Now, because the contract had been breached Arc
> > would not give us money in
> > >advance to pay for flyers and flights for djs, so I
> > advanced us about
> > >$2000, stressing to Scotto that I was nervous about
> > doing this. Scotto
> > >told me again not to worry.
> > >
> > >On April 3rd, the day of the party, Mike & his
> > lawyer called me at home,
> > >saying that they were definitely not going to honor
> > the (now 1100) advance
> > >ticket names unless we gave Arc cash or a certified
> > check for the amount
> > >of the online ticket sales. When I talked to Scotto
> > he said that Ticket
> > >Leap was bringing a check up from Philly. Scotto
> > said that the check
> > >wasn=E2=80=99t certified but that the contract did not
> > say it needed to be.
> > >
> > >Arc refused to accept a check 1) from an out of
> > state company that they
> > >did not know, 2) that was made out to Scotto who
> > did not have a bank
> > >account, and then signed over to them by him.
> > >
> > >Wini, my wife, and I talked and we both agreed that
> > I simply could not let
> > >over 1100 people arrive at an event that was
> > produced by me and be told
> > >that they could not get in with the ticket they had
> > bought. I knew some
> > >people had driven from as far as Florida; I just
> > felt I had no choice. At
> > >9.00 pm, with a line at the door, I did a wire
> > transfer of $10,000 from
> > >our personal savings account into the Arc account.
> > This was to be security
> > >until the Ticket Leap check, endorsed by Scotto to
> > Arc, had cleared.
> > >
> > >Scotto was furious with me for doing this, saying I
> > had undermined his
> > >"plan" (which I knew nothing of) for renegotiating
> > our deal because of the
> > >chaos that would ensue at the door.
> > >
> > >The party itself was an incredible success, I saw
> > people who I had not
> > >seen for 12 years, and I even saw some crying they
> > were so happy. As a
> > >favor to me, Moby came down and spun for half an
> > hour as a surprise guest.
> > >There were over 2000 people there.
> > >
> > >At the end of the night (8.00am) we all tried to
> > figure out how much money
> > >was made and what the split should be. We were all
> > too tired, so we were
> > >to get together on the following Monday.
> > >
> > >On Monday the club called me to say that Scotto
> > needed to present the
> > >Ticket Leap check that he had endorsed at the bank
> > in person for it to be
> > >deposited - this was the check that the $10,000
> > wire of my personal
> > >savings was security for.
> > >
> > >Scotto then told me that he was not happy with our
> > split and we should get
> > >much more of the door.
> > >
> > >The next thing he did was tell Ticket Leap to
> > cancel the check. By now I
> > >was getting very worried- I knew the club was not
> > going to give me back my
> > >deposit until all the money was accounted for.
> > Scotto then started getting
> > >more and more maniacal, talking about getting 100%
> > of the door, and
> > >wanting to sue the club because they tried to steal
> > his mailing list.
> > >
> > >I was getting desperate; it was looking like he was
> > not going to let the
> > >club have the ticket money.
> > >
> > >On the Wednesday & Thursday of that week I tried
> > emailing & calling Scotto
> > >several times to no avail. On Saturday Scotto's
> > brother Brooks called me
> > >to say that their father had given him instructions
> > to call me on Scotto=E2=80=99s
> > >behalf, to let me know Scotto was in jail on some
> > kind of driving offence.
> > >I asked Brooks if he knew what had been going
> > between Scotto, the club &
> > >me. He was quite clear about saying =E2=80=9CNo & he did
> > not want to know=E2=80=9D.
> > >
> > >Mike, now so sick of Scotto, decided that they
> > would cut their losses,
> > >keep my $10,000 and only be out a couple of grand
> > from what their split
> > >should have been.
> > >
> > >When I finally talked to Scotto it was Monday, and
> > he did not want to tell
> > >mewhy he had been locked up for 4 days.
> > >
> > >So Scotto had $24,000 from Ticket Leap. He told me
> > that he thought that
> > >legally he did not have to give me back the money I
> > had spent, but
> > >ethically he would do the right thing. Within 24
> > hours of saying that, he
> > >changed his mind and told me I should sue the club
> > for the money.
> >
>
>
>
>
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how about that old boat on the pier in manhattan, whats it called, the
Frying Pan?  that might be very easy to get for a smaller all-nighter.


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> On Sun, 25 Apr 2004, Brennan, James PO (ACTNY) wrote:
>
> > I would definitely be down to do something like this.  I would
definitely
> > volunteer for setting up and DJing
>
> Heh... there's _never_ a shortage of DJs. Show of hands for planning,
> permit applications, setup, clean-up? That's the sound of silence.
>
> I want to cast the first vote for NYC. Not just because of my association
> but because I think something bigger and better can be acomplished. I
> think NER and NYC can collab on something decent instead of two separate
> "eh" events. AFAIK nothing official has been done in NYC and it would be
> especially meaningful with all the closings and legislation craziness
> going on here. Been calling around some Chinatown dim-sum parlors because
> I think it would be pretty cool to party and have dim-sum snacks. Costs
> seem prohibitatively expensive at the moment but I think the manager got
> the impression I was planning a banquet type deal. Not sure if they'd
> just rent the space to us as a venue. Need to do more research. Also need
> to look into some pretty cool picnic spaces in Brooklyn. Mayday in
> Tompkins Sq. Park is coming up next Sunday and has always been a city
> favorite that goes on without a hitch so I know this thing isn't entirely
> impossible. Will have to hit up the Blackkat boyz for details and
> suggestions. Anyone particularly close with Jason here? -- Lowkey, T-bone?
>
> Couple of years ago a couple of us got an official permit and did a party
> right on the Jersey City piers looking across to downtown NYC. Was
> _amazing_ although not many showed up. Pier was hooked up with power too
> so we didn't need to use a genny :)
>
> I'm willing to do most (all) of the leg work in NYC if people are up for
> it. I'll try to drum up responses and suggestions from club owners from a
> list (Taverners United For Fairness) I'm on as well as Legalize Dancing
> NYC.  Maybe they'd be sympathetic and hook us up with a spot.
>
> Jasper
>
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10 years ago the scene was just as bad - and had to do with the same people.  The reason that Home (94ish) was discontinued was because Scotto and Peter ADD wanted to up the price at the door and DB didn't want to...so DB took his name off the flyer and the party in general..thus leaving him with a similar situation without losing all that cash.  
 
You figure that DB would have learned then...but you always want to give people the benefit of the doubt.  Just next time, maybe he won't put $12,000 into it when you have a family to care for.  Scotto has nothing to care for aside from himself, his drug habit, and his little boys that he likes. Therefore, he can be a dick and get away with it, with barely any reprocussions.  Since the beginning, he hasn't cared about anyone but himself....and I would be very surprised if he attempts to do business for a few years after this.  But he has come back before...and thats not to say that he won't again.  He usually waits a good amount of years for the next string of young promoters to come in.  I have seen it before...and we will no doubt see it again.  Just keep in mind...when you meet young promoters...let them know what a dick Scotto is and down the line, don't do business with him.  Keep that going and we wont have to worry about anything from him except shitty movies about the scene -
 that no one wants to see anyways.
 
Dont get me wrong...DB is a awesome guy and has done more for this scene than MANY...but learn from mistakes...when you get fucked over once, shame on them....get fucked over twice, shame on you.  Youre a smart guy...use your wit in situations like these.
 
Kelly.
 

Edward Smith <eddie2242000@yahoo.com> wrote:
Damn, this makes me REALLY ANGRY!!!! 10 years ago,
the
scene was much, much, healthier than this shit. I want
to do two things. 
A.)Round up a posse and go lynch this "Scotto" dude,
B.)Try and organize a relief fund for this dude who
just got fucked over...Im in no position to do either
of these...except the lynching. Any Ideas?






> >This is what happened.
> >
> >Two years ago Scotto (aka Scott Osman, self
> proclaimed lighting
> >genius) called me and asked if I wanted to do a
> NASA 10 year anniversary
> >party. I asked if he had a venue, and he said no
> but would find one.
> > 
> >A year later he called again and asked the same
> thing and I asked if he
> >had a venue. No, he said, but he would find one.
> >
> >6 months ago still nothing had happened, so I
> approached Mike Bindra at
> >Arc, which is the site of the original club, the
> Shelter, which held NASA.
> >
> >Mike said that he was interested and that we should
> just simply rent the
> >club from him. I explained that I was pretty sure
> that Scotto would not
> >have any money & I was not really comfortable
> putting up the whole thing,
> >especially as I didn’t have regular income from a
> record company job to
> >support me. Mike came up with a deal - he would pay
> all the up front
> >expenses and costs & then give Scotto and me a 40%
> split of the door
> >receipts after all expenses were paid back.
> >
> >We agreed and Scotto and I started to organize
> things. Scotto was given a
> >contract to sign by the club. I didn’t want to
> sign it because I did not
> >have a LLC (limited liability company) to protect
> me if something went
> >wrong, and Scotto has a company called Drop. Scotto
> and Arc kept sending
> >the contract back and forth, negotiating details,
> till it was finally
> >signed.
> >
> >Within minutes of signing Scotto was breaching the
> contract by selling
> >tickets through a ticket outlet not approved by
> Arc, Ticket Leap. We were
> >informed that those names on will call through
> Ticket Leap would not be
> >honored unless Scotto produced all the ticket money
> before the event.
> >Scotto told me not to worry.
> >
> >Now, because the contract had been breached Arc
> would not give us money in
> >advance to pay for flyers and flights for djs, so I
> advanced us about
> >$2000, stressing to Scotto that I was nervous about
> doing this. Scotto
> >told me again not to worry.
> >
> >On April 3rd, the day of the party, Mike & his
> lawyer called me at home,
> >saying that they were definitely not going to honor
> the (now 1100) advance
> >ticket names unless we gave Arc cash or a certified
> check for the amount
> >of the online ticket sales. When I talked to Scotto
> he said that Ticket
> >Leap was bringing a check up from Philly. Scotto
> said that the check
> >wasn’t certified but that the contract did not
> say it needed to be.
> >
> >Arc refused to accept a check 1) from an out of
> state company that they
> >did not know, 2) that was made out to Scotto who
> did not have a bank
> >account, and then signed over to them by him.
> >
> >Wini, my wife, and I talked and we both agreed that
> I simply could not let
> >over 1100 people arrive at an event that was
> produced by me and be told
> >that they could not get in with the ticket they had
> bought. I knew some
> >people had driven from as far as Florida; I just
> felt I had no choice. At
> >9.00 pm, with a line at the door, I did a wire
> transfer of $10,000 from
> >our personal savings account into the Arc account.
> This was to be security
> >until the Ticket Leap check, endorsed by Scotto to
> Arc, had cleared.
> >
> >Scotto was furious with me for doing this, saying I
> had undermined his
> >"plan" (which I knew nothing of) for renegotiating
> our deal because of the
> >chaos that would ensue at the door.
> >
> >The party itself was an incredible success, I saw
> people who I had not
> >seen for 12 years, and I even saw some crying they
> were so happy. As a
> >favor to me, Moby came down and spun for half an
> hour as a surprise guest.
> >There were over 2000 people there.
> >
> >At the end of the night (8.00am) we all tried to
> figure out how much money
> >was made and what the split should be. We were all
> too tired, so we were
> >to get together on the following Monday.
> >
> >On Monday the club called me to say that Scotto
> needed to present the
> >Ticket Leap check that he had endorsed at the bank
> in person for it to be
> >deposited - this was the check that the $10,000
> wire of my personal
> >savings was security for.
> >
> >Scotto then told me that he was not happy with our
> split and we should get
> >much more of the door.
> >
> >The next thing he did was tell Ticket Leap to
> cancel the check. By now I
> >was getting very worried- I knew the club was not
> going to give me back my
> >deposit until all the money was accounted for.
> Scotto then started getting
> >more and more maniacal, talking about getting 100%
> of the door, and
> >wanting to sue the club because they tried to steal
> his mailing list.
> >
> >I was getting desperate; it was looking like he was
> not going to let the
> >club have the ticket money.
> >
> >On the Wednesday & Thursday of that week I tried
> emailing & calling Scotto
> >several times to no avail. On Saturday Scotto's
> brother Brooks called me
> >to say that their father had given him instructions
> to call me on Scotto’s
> >behalf, to let me know Scotto was in jail on some
> kind of driving offence.
> >I asked Brooks if he knew what had been going
> between Scotto, the club &
> >me. He was quite clear about saying “No & he did
> not want to know”.
> >
> >Mike, now so sick of Scotto, decided that they
> would cut their losses,
> >keep my $10,000 and only be out a couple of grand
> from what their split
> >should have been.
> >
> >When I finally talked to Scotto it was Monday, and
> he did not want to tell
> >mewhy he had been locked up for 4 days.
> >
> >So Scotto had $24,000 from Ticket Leap. He told me
> that he thought that
> >legally he did not have to give me back the money I
> had spent, but
> >ethically he would do the right thing. Within 24
> hours of saying that, he
> >changed his mind and told me I should sue the club
> for the money.
> 




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Called them before -- good idea :)  Unfortunantly it's a bit past it's
prime so they're charging an arm and a leg now. They used to give the
whole damn pier and both the Frying Pan and the barge away for less than
$2000. Now they charge separately for each of those sections -- my guess
is for a total of over $4000. Not sure how possible it is but there is
this really neat public park across from that pier. Funky little
sculptures and artificial tall grass covered hills nestled right between
NYC traffic :)  Will talk more to the NYC outlaw crews. Would be nice to
do a legit day party but I hear permits are only for four hours.

On Sun, 2 May 2004, Gil wrote:

> how about that old boat on the pier in manhattan, whats it called, the
> Frying Pan?  that might be very easy to get for a smaller all-nighter.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jasper Lin" <jasper@hyperreal.org>
> To: "Brennan, James PO (ACTNY)" <JBrennan@actny.uscg.mil>
> Cc: <ne-raves@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 12:52 PM
> Subject: RE: [ne-raves] Net-Party
>
>
> > On Sun, 25 Apr 2004, Brennan, James PO (ACTNY) wrote:
> >
> > > I would definitely be down to do something like this.  I would
> definitely
> > > volunteer for setting up and DJing
> >
> > Heh... there's _never_ a shortage of DJs. Show of hands for planning,
> > permit applications, setup, clean-up? That's the sound of silence.
> >
> > I want to cast the first vote for NYC. Not just because of my association
> > but because I think something bigger and better can be acomplished. I
> > think NER and NYC can collab on something decent instead of two separate
> > "eh" events. AFAIK nothing official has been done in NYC and it would be
> > especially meaningful with all the closings and legislation craziness
> > going on here. Been calling around some Chinatown dim-sum parlors because
> > I think it would be pretty cool to party and have dim-sum snacks. Costs
> > seem prohibitatively expensive at the moment but I think the manager got
> > the impression I was planning a banquet type deal. Not sure if they'd
> > just rent the space to us as a venue. Need to do more research. Also need
> > to look into some pretty cool picnic spaces in Brooklyn. Mayday in
> > Tompkins Sq. Park is coming up next Sunday and has always been a city
> > favorite that goes on without a hitch so I know this thing isn't entirely
> > impossible. Will have to hit up the Blackkat boyz for details and
> > suggestions. Anyone particularly close with Jason here? -- Lowkey, T-bone?
> >
> > Couple of years ago a couple of us got an official permit and did a party
> > right on the Jersey City piers looking across to downtown NYC. Was
> > _amazing_ although not many showed up. Pier was hooked up with power too
> > so we didn't need to use a genny :)
> >
> > I'm willing to do most (all) of the leg work in NYC if people are up for
> > it. I'll try to drum up responses and suggestions from club owners from a
> > list (Taverners United For Fairness) I'm on as well as Legalize Dancing
> > NYC.  Maybe they'd be sympathetic and hook us up with a spot.
> >
> > Jasper

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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Net-Party

i have a large legit spot here in philly.  but the problem is its VERY
large.  as in a ballroom.  the price is right because they want my business.
the problem is how many ne-raves are there?  i would be wasting the spot for
under 300 people.  unless it was only going until 2am, than at least its not
burning up an 'all night permit'.




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> Called them before -- good idea :)  Unfortunantly it's a bit past it's
> prime so they're charging an arm and a leg now. They used to give the
> whole damn pier and both the Frying Pan and the barge away for less than
> $2000. Now they charge separately for each of those sections -- my guess
> is for a total of over $4000. Not sure how possible it is but there is
> this really neat public park across from that pier. Funky little
> sculptures and artificial tall grass covered hills nestled right between
> NYC traffic :)  Will talk more to the NYC outlaw crews. Would be nice to
> do a legit day party but I hear permits are only for four hours.
>
> On Sun, 2 May 2004, Gil wrote:
>
> > how about that old boat on the pier in manhattan, whats it called, the
> > Frying Pan?  that might be very easy to get for a smaller all-nighter.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jasper Lin" <jasper@hyperreal.org>
> > To: "Brennan, James PO (ACTNY)" <JBrennan@actny.uscg.mil>
> > Cc: <ne-raves@hyperreal.org>
> > Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 12:52 PM
> > Subject: RE: [ne-raves] Net-Party
> >
> >
> > > On Sun, 25 Apr 2004, Brennan, James PO (ACTNY) wrote:
> > >
> > > > I would definitely be down to do something like this.  I would
> > definitely
> > > > volunteer for setting up and DJing
> > >
> > > Heh... there's _never_ a shortage of DJs. Show of hands for planning,
> > > permit applications, setup, clean-up? That's the sound of silence.
> > >
> > > I want to cast the first vote for NYC. Not just because of my
association
> > > but because I think something bigger and better can be acomplished. I
> > > think NER and NYC can collab on something decent instead of two
separate
> > > "eh" events. AFAIK nothing official has been done in NYC and it would
be
> > > especially meaningful with all the closings and legislation craziness
> > > going on here. Been calling around some Chinatown dim-sum parlors
because
> > > I think it would be pretty cool to party and have dim-sum snacks.
Costs
> > > seem prohibitatively expensive at the moment but I think the manager
got
> > > the impression I was planning a banquet type deal. Not sure if they'd
> > > just rent the space to us as a venue. Need to do more research. Also
need
> > > to look into some pretty cool picnic spaces in Brooklyn. Mayday in
> > > Tompkins Sq. Park is coming up next Sunday and has always been a city
> > > favorite that goes on without a hitch so I know this thing isn't
entirely
> > > impossible. Will have to hit up the Blackkat boyz for details and
> > > suggestions. Anyone particularly close with Jason here? -- Lowkey,
T-bone?
> > >
> > > Couple of years ago a couple of us got an official permit and did a
party
> > > right on the Jersey City piers looking across to downtown NYC. Was
> > > _amazing_ although not many showed up. Pier was hooked up with power
too
> > > so we didn't need to use a genny :)
> > >
> > > I'm willing to do most (all) of the leg work in NYC if people are up
for
> > > it. I'll try to drum up responses and suggestions from club owners
from a
> > > list (Taverners United For Fairness) I'm on as well as Legalize
Dancing
> > > NYC.  Maybe they'd be sympathetic and hook us up with a spot.
> > >
> > > Jasper
>
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(Intergroove) - USA 

THE ZELCH BROTHERS 
(4120Groove.com, Fused, Groove) - PA 

MYTH I-S 
(DPIM, trancedomain.com) - LI 

JOE JACK 
(Funky Element) - LI 

JEN MAS 
(Adam Recordings, Vitus Prod. - NYC) 

TAURUS 
(Eternal, Sympty) - PA 

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* 

CHOCOLATE FACTORY: 

JOESKI 
(Maya Recordings) - NYC 

STRETCH ARMSTRONG 
(Stretch Music) - NYC 

KNOWLEDGE * CD Release for Driven 
(Columns of Knowledge, collumnsofknowledge.com) - CT 

CHRIS LOVE 
(Stuck On Earth, Tree House Recordings) - NYC 

ALAN SAX 
(Digital Domain) - NYC 

CRAIG HARRIS 
(Cousins Productions) - NYC 

DRAE 192 
(Break Junkiez, Global Club Life) - NYC 

JJ BLADES 
(Spiritual Emporium) - CT 

KELEE 
(VIP Records) - NJ 

JOSEPH DEE 
(DJCentral.com) - NJ 

BRIAN SABBETH 
(Stuck On Earth) - NY 

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* 

21 + VIP PORN STAR LOUNGE: "Sextravaganza Tour" Featuring: 

Hosted by BRITTANY ANDREWS (BrittanyAndrews.com) 
Brittany Andrews started her career... 
as a dancer at a night club in Milwaukee where she quickly became one of the shining stars. She also worked as manager of a Day Spa and a beauty supply company before she took an opportunity to tour the globe performing for audiences in Japan and Guam, not to mention just about every state in the U.S. Brittany has especially fond memories of Jamaica because that is where she met Jenna Jameson, a popular adult film star. Jenna told Brittany everything she needed to know about making adult films and showed her the fun life of a porn star. Convinced, Brittany moved to Los Angeles....the rest is history. We are proud to welcome this adult film industry icon to the Northeast... Can you feel the heat? FAHRENHEIT... Who knows what will happen... Cum Get Sum 

DJ PORTIA SURREAL * Strip Tease Set 
(Erotic Fetish DJ, portiasurreal.com) - NY 
Introducing DJ Portia Surreal New York City's up and coming glowing disco ball vixen. Enlightening the ambiance of planet Earths dance floors with her hypnotic style and seductive flava. Her individual synergy is a transcending spectacle. Featured in the spot light glow with some of the world's most elite artist's: Andy C, Sandra Collins and Tiesto to name a few; Portia is traveling the globe as an explosive controversial breakthrough dj. So far, performing in venues with up to a 6000+ audience, she tantalizes with her theatrical fetish erotica. Whipping up a sassy spankin' style of dark n sexy house and breaks with an electro funky cherry on top. This disco tech geisha has luminous eloquence that invokes the audience with her ever changing rhythm. Music is her lingerie, she captivates a multitude of fans from time zone to time zone with her vision, infinitely marking the galaxy with her essence. Her splendor is a way of life. Tonight she will be blessing us with a performance, that
 will for sure be remembered throughout the HOT summer months to cum 

STRETCH ARMSTRONG * 4 Hour hip hop set "Its gettin' hot in heeerrrrrre" 

IAN DOLLAR$ 
(Stuck On Earth) LI 

GIL - T 
(True Crew) - MA 

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* 

TEMPERATURES RISIN' 

THE HOLY ROLLERZ aka TJR & RALPHIE C 
(LOC, Global Alliance World Tour, globalscene.org) - NYC 

JASON BK 
(Blakkat) - NYC 

TOMMY GUN 
(Network One) - MA 

HAVOK 
(Synergy Productions) - NY 

PROPHET 
(Digitial Entrapment) - NJ 

SOMA & PRIME 
(Audiophile, DPIM, Underground Labz) - NYC // (Bass Connection, Illusion) - NYC 

DJ FAME 
(Simply Bangin) - NYC 

BREAKADAWN & DL 
(Funky Element, breakadawn.com) - CT // (True Crew) - MA 

JAMES MILLER JUNIOR & D - ROK 
(Columns of knowledge Recordings) - CT // (Square One, The After Life) - LI 

KIND NICK 
(Funky Element) - NY 

ROUND N ROUND & INVISIBLE FRIEND 
(Kind Kidz Records, c-tag) - LI 

TOMMY CHURCH 
(tommychurch.com) - NY 

HOWHARD & CANDY KID & LITE BRITE 
(Hardmind, Versatile Groove) - LI // (100 Proof) - NYC // (100 Proof) - MA 

GOODFELLA & J. COSTAS 
(Liquid Fire) - NY // (Funky Element) - LI 

NRGIZER & HEATHCLIFF 
(Light Up, Audiophile) - LI // Digital Entrapment, Underground Labz) - NYC 

KEMIKALZ & MASSACRE 
(Confidential) - NJ // (Bass Connection, Underground Labz) - NYC 

LUKE ARRON 
(CU Entertainment) - PA 

SOUL ASSASSIN & LOXIAS 
(Raversonly, dbc) - LI // (200 Productions, Essential Elements) - NY 

BREAKSTEAL & CHRIS ROX 
(Traumatic Productions) - CT // (Puzzled) - NYC 

DJ ARCADE & SPIRAL 
(Sound Circus) - NY // (Bass Connection) - PA 

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* 

6 ROOMS OF SOUND: 
We will be blasting 70 thousand watts of pure bass. Threw out the 75 thousand square feet and 75 foot cathedral ceilings. There's only one sound system that can hold this place off... TURBO SOUND. 

LIGHTING: 
The world famous EXCELL concert lighting and effects corporation... these guys are going to light up the Manhattan center like a Christmas tree... but it aint December nor Rockefellar Center. Barewitness there top of the line water cooled lasers, techno beams, echobeams, trackspots, studiospots, and strobes... 

PROGRAMING: 
Scotto's Psychedelic light show 

LASERS: 
The Ultimate P.A.W.N. Laser Team will be in full force 

VISUALS: 
Once again FUNK TAXI will be hangin up 4 huge plasma screens with the best custom visuals an award effects team can come up with. 

VENDORS: 
All vendors must reserve space before may 25th and supply there own table and light. one table table per vendor. email xxdjdankxx@aol.com 

SECURITY: 
ROAR is in full affect - No Weapons, candy, Bottles, Markers, Pens, Flyers, Chain wallets 

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* 

LOCATION 
The Manhattan Center/ Hammerstein Ballroom 
311 34th St. & 8 Avenue (WEBSITE FOR Manhattan Center / Hammerstein http://www.mcstudios.com) 

Doors Open @ 7PM Close 6AM 
16 to enter, 21 + to drink 

TICKET PRICE // $40 IN ADVANCE 
LIMITED $100 ALL ACCESS VIP TICKETS AVAILABLE * 

TICKET LOCATIONS: 

WWW.TICKETWEB.COM 
CHARGE BY PHONE: 1-866--666-8932 

NYC 
SATELLITE - 212-995-1744 
SONIC GROOVE - 212-765-5284 
BREAKBEAT SCIENCE - 212-995-2592 

LONG ISLAND 
EAST-WEST - 631-451-0034 
FUNTAZIA - 516 520-0090 

NJ 
CAF SOUNDS - 973-509-2233 
VIP RECORDS - 732-866-9984 

PHILADELPHIA 
611 RECORDS - 215-413-3150 

PITTSBURGH 
HYPER VINYL - 412-422-7746 

CONNECTICUT 
SPIRITUAL EMPORIUM - 860-524-9719 

RHODE ISLAND 
LUNA SEA - 401-272-5862 

MASSACHUSETTS 
SATELLITE - 617-536-5482 
GROWROOM - 413-549-9296 

OHIO 
GRAND POOBAS - 216-556-1486 
CITY BEATS - 614-291-0210 

HOTELS: FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE COMING FROM OUT OF STATE WE SUGGEST MAKING RESERVATIONS AT THE FOLLOWING HOTELS. 
New Yorker-212-301-2285 hilton-212-355-3000 crown plaza-212-986-8800 sheraton-212-581-1000 

BUS TRIPS: ALL PROMOTERS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN DOING A BUS TRIP PLEASE E-mail xxdjdankxx@aol.com 

INFO: 

FUNKY ELEMENT - 
212.252.5241 
WWW.FUNKYELEMENT.COM 

SYMPTY - 
WWW.SYMPTY.COM 


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


		
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Subject: [ne-raves] *FAHRENHEIT* @ Hammerstein (NYC) - Memorial Day Weekend 5.30.04 * FULL INFO

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It's been a cold winter... 

But now its time for that all to change... 

Spring has finally arrived.... 

Lace up them dancin' shoes... 

Cause ya' better' be prepared to move ya feet... and shake dat ass  


FUNKY ELEMENT - SYMPTY PRODUCTIONS - UNDERGROUND LABZ PRESENTS: 


*~ *****~* FAHRENHEIT *~***** ~* 


MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND: SUNDAY, MAY 30, 2004 

LOCATED @ THE MANHATTAN CENTER AKA THE HAMMERSTEIN BALLROOM 
No work or school the next day // 7:00 PM - 6:00 AM 

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* 

MAIN BALL ROOM: 

ARMAND VAN HELDEN 
(Armed Records, Tommy Boy, Cube, Magnetic, OOmph Recordings) - NYC 
Armand Van Helden... The name says it all. Legend. Icon. Pioneer. Role Model to DJ's and Producers around the planet. House phenomena to fans around the globe. What's there to say that has not been said already?? Well, to inform those of you that haven't been lucky enough to experience Armand, heres some info. From his legendary and globally known cultural moving anthems such as "The Witch Doctor" "Flowerz" "Boogie Monster" and countless others, Armand's productions have graced the plates of every major DJ on the planet. His visionary insight and outlook on music has crossed all boundaries and made him an undeniable force in electronic music. Theirs so much more we can elaborate on, but we'd rather you come out and experience this one on your own. This is Armands first NYC performance in the past two years, so see it while you have the chance, this is not to be missed. An extremely rare, raw - rugged set by the Witch Doctor himself. 

ELECTRIC SKYCHURCH * LIVE 
(Moonshine - CA) 
Known for bringing their eclectic musical mixture of acoustic sounds to beautiful outdoor settings like the Mojave dessert, Electric Sky Church first made their mark in the Los Angeles underground music scene in 1993. The trio, consisting of James Lumb (all things electrical), Alex Spurkel (percussion), and Roxanne Morganstern (vocals), recorded their first single in 1994. "Creation" is a unique, almost cosmic blend of generators, synthesizers and electric drums. Their debut album Knowoness appeared in 1995 and since then they have graced the stages of LA's House of Blues and Troubadour. Transatlantic Move surfaced a year later and included their hit single "Dreamcatcher." Tonight with an all new exclusive live performance they will take the entire north east on a journey through sound that will captivate your mind, body and with a raw driving new sound that will penetrate deep into your heart and your emotions. An overall live performance sure not to be missed. 

ELECTRIC INDIGO 
(Vienna Austria, femalepressure.net, indigo.inc.at, Gigolo) - Austria 

FRANKIE BONES 
(EMG, Sonic Groove) - NYC 

DAVID HOLLANDS 
(Minimal Wage) - NYC 

X - DREAM 
(Topaz Records, Caffeine, Stuck On Earth) - LI 

RICHIE NEALE 
(Underground Labz, Filthy Rich) - NYC 

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* 

GRAND BALL ROOM: Hosted by MC ARMANNI REIGN 

GOLDIE - "The God Father Of Drum N' Bass" 
(Metalheadz) - UK 
Recently headlining this years 2004 Drum N Bass Stage at the 50,000 + Ultra Fest party at the Winter Music Conference in South Beach Miami, FL - We are extremely proud to present to you one of the pioneers and originators of today's modern day Drum N Bass scene. Today there are few more influential and charismatic figures on the hardcore/jungle scene than Goldie. Schooled like so many of his peers on hip-hops B-boy ethos of the early 1980s, Goldie's influences on the breakbeat culture of hard-core can go with the B-boy flavor. Founding father of the infamous "Metalheadz" imprint, There is nothing more that we can say about this icon that isn't already known. From countless movie appearances, to performing all over the globe... It is our honor to bring to you this exclusive northeast appearance from man they call Goldie. 

GROOVERIDER 
(Radio 1, Prototype, Metalheadz) - UK 
As one of the figures synonymous with the origins of drum & bass, Grooverider has become a cipher for the sound of a generation. In the close-knit social circles of drum & bass, the mention of his name, which reads like a definition n of the art of dj-ing, inspires nothing but the utmost respect and admiration due to the fact that he has held a torch aloft for this music for so many years. Groove has been riding the rhythm for over ten years. In addition to playing out from Thursday to Sunday every week with residencies at Metalheadz, Fabric, NY Sushi and gigs not only up and down the country but across the world, Grooverider helms Radio 1s Friday night Drum & Bass show (alternately with Fabio) and also engineers, producers and releases his music via his own label, Prototype. 

TYSON FROM HOLLAND 
(HOLMS) - Holland 

PISH POSH 
(Adrenaline, Direct Drive, Burner Brothers) - NYC 

EMPRESS 
(Topaz, Contagious, Adrenaline AM) - NYC 

DATCYDE & KRAZYGLUE 
(Taciturn Records, Reptyle Recordings) -NYC // (Drum N Breaks) - LI 

DANK & ORION 
(Funky Element, funkyelement.com, dj-dank.com) - LI // (Stuck On Earth) - LI 

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* 

BOILER ROOM: 

ROB GEE 
(Adam Recordings, Natas Productions, La Coresa) - NJ 

LENNY DEE 
(Industrial Strength) 

DJ PAULY 
(Sympty, EMG) - NYC 

PLEASUREHEAD 
(Topaz, Stuck On Earth) - NYC 

MICHAEL MYERS 
(Local 13) - PA 

MR. ROBB 
(Intergroove) - USA 

THE ZELCH BROTHERS 
(4120Groove.com, Fused, Groove) - PA 

MYTH I-S 
(DPIM, trancedomain.com) - LI 

JOE JACK 
(Funky Element) - LI 

JEN MAS 
(Adam Recordings, Vitus Prod. - NYC) 

TAURUS 
(Eternal, Sympty) - PA 

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* 

CHOCOLATE FACTORY: 

JOESKI 
(Maya Recordings) - NYC 

STRETCH ARMSTRONG 
(Stretch Music) - NYC 

KNOWLEDGE * CD Release for Driven 
(Columns of Knowledge, collumnsofknowledge.com) - CT 

CHRIS LOVE 
(Stuck On Earth, Tree House Recordings) - NYC 

ALAN SAX 
(Digital Domain) - NYC 

CRAIG HARRIS 
(Cousins Productions) - NYC 

DRAE 192 
(Break Junkiez, Global Club Life) - NYC 

JJ BLADES 
(Spiritual Emporium) - CT 

KELEE 
(VIP Records) - NJ 

JOSEPH DEE 
(DJCentral.com) - NJ 

BRIAN SABBETH 
(Stuck On Earth) - NY 

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* 

21 + VIP PORN STAR LOUNGE: "Sextravaganza Tour" Featuring: 

Hosted by BRITTANY ANDREWS (BrittanyAndrews.com) 
Brittany Andrews started her career... 
as a dancer at a night club in Milwaukee where she quickly became one of the shining stars. She also worked as manager of a Day Spa and a beauty supply company before she took an opportunity to tour the globe performing for audiences in Japan and Guam, not to mention just about every state in the U.S. Brittany has especially fond memories of Jamaica because that is where she met Jenna Jameson, a popular adult film star. Jenna told Brittany everything she needed to know about making adult films and showed her the fun life of a porn star. Convinced, Brittany moved to Los Angeles....the rest is history. We are proud to welcome this adult film industry icon to the Northeast... Can you feel the heat? FAHRENHEIT... Who knows what will happen... Cum Get Sum 

DJ PORTIA SURREAL * Strip Tease Set 
(Erotic Fetish DJ, portiasurreal.com) - NY 
Introducing DJ Portia Surreal New York City's up and coming glowing disco ball vixen. Enlightening the ambiance of planet Earths dance floors with her hypnotic style and seductive flava. Her individual synergy is a transcending spectacle. Featured in the spot light glow with some of the world's most elite artist's: Andy C, Sandra Collins and Tiesto to name a few; Portia is traveling the globe as an explosive controversial breakthrough dj. So far, performing in venues with up to a 6000+ audience, she tantalizes with her theatrical fetish erotica. Whipping up a sassy spankin' style of dark n sexy house and breaks with an electro funky cherry on top. This disco tech geisha has luminous eloquence that invokes the audience with her ever changing rhythm. Music is her lingerie, she captivates a multitude of fans from time zone to time zone with her vision, infinitely marking the galaxy with her essence. Her splendor is a way of life. Tonight she will be blessing us with a performance, that
 will for sure be remembered throughout the HOT summer months to cum 

STRETCH ARMSTRONG * 4 Hour hip hop set "Its gettin' hot in heeerrrrrre" 

IAN DOLLAR$ 
(Stuck On Earth) LI 

GIL - T 
(True Crew) - MA 

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* 

TEMPERATURES RISIN' 

THE HOLY ROLLERZ aka TJR & RALPHIE C 
(LOC, Global Alliance World Tour, globalscene.org) - NYC 

JASON BK 
(Blakkat) - NYC 

TOMMY GUN 
(Network One) - MA 

HAVOK 
(Synergy Productions) - NY 

PROPHET 
(Digitial Entrapment) - NJ 

SOMA & PRIME 
(Audiophile, DPIM, Underground Labz) - NYC // (Bass Connection, Illusion) - NYC 

DJ FAME 
(Simply Bangin) - NYC 

BREAKADAWN & DL 
(Funky Element, breakadawn.com) - CT // (True Crew) - MA 

JAMES MILLER JUNIOR & D - ROK 
(Columns of knowledge Recordings) - CT // (Square One, The After Life) - LI 

KIND NICK 
(Funky Element) - NY 

ROUND N ROUND & INVISIBLE FRIEND 
(Kind Kidz Records, c-tag) - LI 

TOMMY CHURCH 
(tommychurch.com) - NY 

HOWHARD & CANDY KID & LITE BRITE 
(Hardmind, Versatile Groove) - LI // (100 Proof) - NYC // (100 Proof) - MA 

GOODFELLA & J. COSTAS 
(Liquid Fire) - NY // (Funky Element) - LI 

NRGIZER & HEATHCLIFF 
(Light Up, Audiophile) - LI // Digital Entrapment, Underground Labz) - NYC 

KEMIKALZ & MASSACRE 
(Confidential) - NJ // (Bass Connection, Underground Labz) - NYC 

LUKE ARRON 
(CU Entertainment) - PA 

SOUL ASSASSIN & LOXIAS 
(Raversonly, dbc) - LI // (200 Productions, Essential Elements) - NY 

BREAKSTEAL & CHRIS ROX 
(Traumatic Productions) - CT // (Puzzled) - NYC 

DJ ARCADE & SPIRAL 
(Sound Circus) - NY // (Bass Connection) - PA 

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* 

6 ROOMS OF SOUND: 
We will be blasting 70 thousand watts of pure bass. Threw out the 75 thousand square feet and 75 foot cathedral ceilings. There's only one sound system that can hold this place off... TURBO SOUND. 

LIGHTING: 
The world famous EXCELL concert lighting and effects corporation... these guys are going to light up the Manhattan center like a Christmas tree... but it aint December nor Rockefellar Center. Barewitness there top of the line water cooled lasers, techno beams, echobeams, trackspots, studiospots, and strobes... 

PROGRAMING: 
Scotto's Psychedelic light show 

LASERS: 
The Ultimate P.A.W.N. Laser Team will be in full force 

VISUALS: 
Once again FUNK TAXI will be hangin up 4 huge plasma screens with the best custom visuals an award effects team can come up with. 

VENDORS: 
All vendors must reserve space before may 25th and supply there own table and light. one table table per vendor. email xxdjdankxx@aol.com 

SECURITY: 
ROAR is in full affect - No Weapons, candy, Bottles, Markers, Pens, Flyers, Chain wallets 

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* 

LOCATION 
The Manhattan Center/ Hammerstein Ballroom 
311 34th St. & 8 Avenue (WEBSITE FOR Manhattan Center / Hammerstein http://www.mcstudios.com) 

Doors Open @ 7PM Close 6AM 
16 to enter, 21 + to drink 

TICKET PRICE // $40 IN ADVANCE 
LIMITED $100 ALL ACCESS VIP TICKETS AVAILABLE * 

TICKET LOCATIONS: 

WWW.TICKETWEB.COM 
CHARGE BY PHONE: 1-866--666-8932 

NYC 
SATELLITE - 212-995-1744 
SONIC GROOVE - 212-765-5284 
BREAKBEAT SCIENCE - 212-995-2592 

LONG ISLAND 
EAST-WEST - 631-451-0034 
FUNTAZIA - 516 520-0090 

NJ 
CAF SOUNDS - 973-509-2233 
VIP RECORDS - 732-866-9984 

PHILADELPHIA 
611 RECORDS - 215-413-3150 

PITTSBURGH 
HYPER VINYL - 412-422-7746 

CONNECTICUT 
SPIRITUAL EMPORIUM - 860-524-9719 

RHODE ISLAND 
LUNA SEA - 401-272-5862 

MASSACHUSETTS 
SATELLITE - 617-536-5482 
GROWROOM - 413-549-9296 

OHIO 
GRAND POOBAS - 216-556-1486 
CITY BEATS - 614-291-0210 

HOTELS: FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE COMING FROM OUT OF STATE WE SUGGEST MAKING RESERVATIONS AT THE FOLLOWING HOTELS. 
New Yorker-212-301-2285 hilton-212-355-3000 crown plaza-212-986-8800 sheraton-212-581-1000 

BUS TRIPS: ALL PROMOTERS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN DOING A BUS TRIP PLEASE E-mail xxdjdankxx@aol.com 

INFO: 

FUNKY ELEMENT - 
212.252.5241 
WWW.FUNKYELEMENT.COM 

SYMPTY - 
WWW.SYMPTY.COM 


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


		
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On Tue, 4 May 2004, Gil wrote:

> i have a large legit spot here in philly.  but the problem is its VERY
> large.  as in a ballroom.  the price is right because they want my business.
> the problem is how many ne-raves are there?  i would be wasting the spot for
> under 300 people.  unless it was only going until 2am, than at least its not
> burning up an 'all night permit'.

Tell you what. I will do everything I can to help. At the very least I can
try to arrange an old school bus trip down to Philly from NYC. My guess is
that the NER membership is seriously low due to migration and whatever. I
think DC is unusually supportive and would definitely make a showing
especially if they were involved. Could be a Hyperreal EC thing.

Don't know much at all about Philly anymore so can I get a few details?
How late can this thing go? Approximately how big is the ballroom? Near
public transport? Do you have sound covered or would you need backup?

Jasper

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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Net-Party

Quoting Jasper Lin <jasper@hyperreal.org>:


> Tell you what. I will do everything I can to help. At the very least I can
> try to arrange an old school bus trip down to Philly from NYC. My guess is
> that the NER membership is seriously low due to migration and whatever. I
> think DC is unusually supportive and would definitely make a showing
> especially if they were involved. Could be a Hyperreal EC thing.
>
> Don't know much at all about Philly anymore so can I get a few details?
> How late can this thing go? Approximately how big is the ballroom? Near
> public transport? Do you have sound covered or would you need backup?

     Just on a side note, I've always had a small problem with net-parties. 
Even the first one could have had a lot more people.  At that time, the list
was a hell of a lot stronger than it is now.  And that's an understatement. 
Rather than rushing to try and have a net party this summer in a nice large
venue, why not just throw a party for all closer to the end of fall/early
winter?  How many rooms are in this venue?  Enough for two different sound
rooms?  Have one room that would appeal more for the net raver crowd but have
another that would cater to everyone.  Then, actively promote for 6 months.  To
keep it themed and beneficial for the list, just say that ne-raves is throwing
the party.  Net parties over the years seem to be ill attended, in my opinion,
because not even enough people on the list are all that excited about the
music.  Bookings usually turn into a "who you know" kinda thing.  Unlike the
last time where this turned into an issue, a Nuke Portal can be easilly set up
for a real online preview of mixes and a one account/one vote situation with
absolutely 0 effort.  I'd be more than happy to set something like that up if
nobody else has the time or desire.  It would take all but 10 minutes if we're
not going for flashy appearance.
     I think it might be better to throw it like an actual party and promote for
real rather than just on the list.  We all know that this list has seen better
days and could definitely use some new members with new interests and
perspectives.  Throwing a good party for all might be a good way to go about
it.  Plus, between a number of us on this list, chances are we know enough
people outside of the list who could draw some heads and charge us very little
due to the personal connects.  Just an idea.

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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Net-Party

Quoting Nautical Nonsense <maryanarchy@yahoo.com>:

> not that my opinion means shit, but i HIGHLY doubt i'd
> make it up to nyc for a net party...

     Well, the venue mentioned was Philadelphia.  Not a bad in between point at
all.

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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Net-Party

On Wed, 5 May 2004, Mama Sutra wrote:

> Quoting Jasper Lin <jasper@hyperreal.org>:
>
> > Tell you what. I will do everything I can to help. At the very least I can
> > try to arrange an old school bus trip down to Philly from NYC. My guess is
> > that the NER membership is seriously low due to migration and whatever. I
> > think DC is unusually supportive and would definitely make a showing
> > especially if they were involved. Could be a Hyperreal EC thing.
> >
> > Don't know much at all about Philly anymore so can I get a few details?
> > How late can this thing go? Approximately how big is the ballroom? Near
> > public transport? Do you have sound covered or would you need backup?
>
>      Just on a side note, I've always had a small problem with net-parties.
> Even the first one could have had a lot more people.  At that time, the list
> was a hell of a lot stronger than it is now.  And that's an understatement.

Definitely, I think the problem is a big one. I was suggesting that
bringing more people into the mix might automatically bring in their
regular following if any ;)  This whole net party thing is great and to me
I was only thinking that we'd be behind it all but the people going to the
party don't have to know that exactly or feel ostracized if they aren't on
the list. NER listees would hopefully just be a subset of the total
attendees

> Rather than rushing to try and have a net party this summer in a nice large
> venue, why not just throw a party for all closer to the end of fall/early
> winter?  How many rooms are in this venue?

Second the push to fall/winter if large venue. Summer meet up can just be
a "team building" planners face-to-face meet up.

> absolutely 0 effort.  I'd be more than happy to set something like that up if
> nobody else has the time or desire.  It would take all but 10 minutes if we're
> not going for flashy appearance.

*pat Lowkey on back for taking initiative* Incidentally the NER page is
lying dormant though you'd have to be super vigilant about Nuke security
updates because they're frequent at times and have the potential to take
all of Hyperreal down.

> it.  Plus, between a number of us on this list, chances are we know enough
> people outside of the list who could draw some heads and charge us very little
> due to the personal connects.  Just an idea.

Slightly OT but We should still plan to do something at Volume because
it's the closest thing to a decent spot around here. Just hope that place
doesn't get shut down really soon because it just doesn't smell Kosher.

Jasper

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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Net-Party

Quoting Jasper Lin <jasper@hyperreal.org>:

> Incidentally the NER page is
> lying dormant though you'd have to be super vigilant about Nuke security
> updates because they're frequent at times and have the potential to take
> all of Hyperreal down.

     I could just run a tiny portal off of acidgrave.com so, if it gets crashed,
 it only affects my server and not all of hyperreal.  Then it could be
hotlinked off of the NER page.  I figure it could be a very minimal set up.  A
section for voting polls on the mixes, a file section for mixes, and the
ability for new users to sign up.  Nothing else.  Hell, I could set it up right
now if nobody gives a crap about the theme.  Could just use the Post-Nuke
default even.

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Someone mentioned inviting the new york mailing list so why don't we make
this a multiple list gathering.  Like a Hypereal list net meet?  We
could include dcraves too... Just an
idea, no loss here if people don't like it.

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On Wed, 5 May 2004, Jasper Lin wrote:

> Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 06:58:29 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Jasper Lin <jasper@hyperreal.org>
> To: Gil <gdrive@techsupport.cx>
> Cc: ne-raves@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Net-Party
>
> On Tue, 4 May 2004, Gil wrote:
>
> > i have a large legit spot here in philly.  but the problem is its VERY
> > large.  as in a ballroom.  the price is right because they want my business.
> > the problem is how many ne-raves are there?  i would be wasting the spot for
> > under 300 people.  unless it was only going until 2am, than at least its not
> > burning up an 'all night permit'.
>
> Tell you what. I will do everything I can to help. At the very least I can
> try to arrange an old school bus trip down to Philly from NYC. My guess is
> that the NER membership is seriously low due to migration and whatever. I
> think DC is unusually supportive and would definitely make a showing
> especially if they were involved. Could be a Hyperreal EC thing.
>
> Don't know much at all about Philly anymore so can I get a few details?
> How late can this thing go? Approximately how big is the ballroom? Near
> public transport? Do you have sound covered or would you need backup?
>
> Jasper
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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Net-Party

the spot is very large.  think Nation in DC.  or Buzz.

the 'mainstream raver scene'  in philly doesnt really exist anymore.
the'scene' is most independent genre specific crews doing their own thing.
usually to 21+ crowds.

The spot is near public transport.  i have access to multiple sound systems,
lazers, visuals the whole shmear, i been throwing parties for many years.

the problem is that the space really is huge. i probably shouldnt have
brought it up for a party of under 400 people.


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> On Tue, 4 May 2004, Gil wrote:
>
> > i have a large legit spot here in philly.  but the problem is its VERY
> > large.  as in a ballroom.  the price is right because they want my
business.
> > the problem is how many ne-raves are there?  i would be wasting the spot
for
> > under 300 people.  unless it was only going until 2am, than at least its
not
> > burning up an 'all night permit'.
>
> Tell you what. I will do everything I can to help. At the very least I can
> try to arrange an old school bus trip down to Philly from NYC. My guess is
> that the NER membership is seriously low due to migration and whatever. I
> think DC is unusually supportive and would definitely make a showing
> especially if they were involved. Could be a Hyperreal EC thing.
>
> Don't know much at all about Philly anymore so can I get a few details?
> How late can this thing go? Approximately how big is the ballroom? Near
> public transport? Do you have sound covered or would you need backup?
>
> Jasper
>



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Still think a park party would be better - permits are not all that expensive (nothing like a rental of a venue) and it would be nice to celebrate the summer.
 
Personally...if its in Philly, I won't be there.  This is a NorthEast Raves list and NYC is alot closer to central NorthEast than Philly is.  We have people from way north on this list and I definately dont think that they would agree that Philly is a central part of the NorthEast.
 
Maybe North Jersey is another option, but Philly is way to South to be considered an in-between point.  Besides, alot of net-parties have been in Philly before...alot of people didnt make it due to that fact...maybe we can set it up so that people who couldn't make it in the past, can actually come this year?
 

Mama Sutra <lowkey@acidgrave.com> wrote:
Quoting Nautical Nonsense :

> not that my opinion means shit, but i HIGHLY doubt i'd
> make it up to nyc for a net party...

Well, the venue mentioned was Philadelphia. Not a bad in between point at
all.

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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Net-Party

the problem is finding a person with the gumption in the north east to host
a net party.  i think the ideal place for a ne-rave party would be Albany Ny
because of its truly north east central location. unless you can get Columns
of Knowldge to host a net party . . .

and park parties a measure of last resort.  they have to end at sundown and
the sound system is always blowing into the open air, and neighbor parkers
are mad at you

a net party needs to be indoors.



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> Still think a park party would be better - permits are not all that
expensive (nothing like a rental of a venue) and it would be nice to
celebrate the summer.
>
> Personally...if its in Philly, I won't be there.  This is a NorthEast
Raves list and NYC is alot closer to central NorthEast than Philly is.  We
have people from way north on this list and I definately dont think that
they would agree that Philly is a central part of the NorthEast.
>
> Maybe North Jersey is another option, but Philly is way to South to be
considered an in-between point.  Besides, alot of net-parties have been in
Philly before...alot of people didnt make it due to that fact...maybe we can
set it up so that people who couldn't make it in the past, can actually come
this year?
>
>
> Mama Sutra <lowkey@acidgrave.com> wrote:
> Quoting Nautical Nonsense :
>
> > not that my opinion means shit, but i HIGHLY doubt i'd
> > make it up to nyc for a net party...
>
> Well, the venue mentioned was Philadelphia. Not a bad in between point at
> all.
>
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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Net-Party

Quoting kelly d <supapimpny@yahoo.com>:

> Maybe North Jersey is another option, but Philly is way to South to be
> considered an in-between point.  Besides, alot of net-parties have been in
> Philly before...alot of people didnt make it due to that fact...maybe we can
> set it up so that people who couldn't make it in the past, can actually come
> this year?

     There is no real in between point for the region covered.  In the past, the
parties have been in Baltimore, the Buffalo/Rochester area, Hoboken, and a park
in Phili once if you count that one amongst some other places if there were
other ne-raves net parties I've forgotten.  As far as the major municipalities
are concerned where a number of current members are present, philadelphia is a
nice central location.  But, being pragmatic, it would be better to just pick
whichever city will provide the biggest bang for the buck.
     As for people from the list not showing up, not to sound like a dick, but
that's really not my concern.  It seems like, over the years, less rather than
more people from the list show up which is why I have a general aversion to
list parties that require any amount of work or planning.  However, if the
party were actually thrown like a real open party, and not a meet-up, it could
bring more life back to numerous lists.  Given how dead most lists have become
in an age where new message boards crop up every 24 hours, I'd rather see the
party serve as an example of what a less splintered online community can
achieve rather than a social event for a few listees who either have a friend
spinning or find it convenient enough to show up.  It would probably pull in a
number of new heads to the list which could result in a change for the better. 
This is, however, all riding on whether or not the party would be thrown in
something that's the size of a ballroom.  But, I don't see why it shouldn't be
if Gil has a good price on it.  It's just a matter of not rushing the date so
we can make sure people know about the party.

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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Net-Party

Quoting Gil <gdrive@techsupport.cx>:

> the spot is very large.  think Nation in DC.  or Buzz.

     Is it just one room?

> the 'mainstream raver scene'  in philly doesnt really exist anymore.
> the'scene' is most independent genre specific crews doing their own thing.
> usually to 21+ crowds.

     That wouldn't really matter so long as the party isn't rushed I don't
think.  Do you know enough people in Philadelphia that would be able to promote
to each respective crew individually?  It's really no different anywhere else I
don't think.  It's just a question of people going to parties and handing out
flyers.

> The spot is near public transport.  i have access to multiple sound systems,
> lazers, visuals the whole shmear, i been throwing parties for many years.
> the problem is that the space really is huge. i probably shouldnt have
> brought it up for a party of under 400 people.

     What's the maximum capacity?  400 people is not that many people for a good
priced party with a good line-up.  Is anyone going to the upcoming Local 13
party?  It would be interesting to see how many people they pull in.  The party
is $25 in advance right?  Actually, before I get a head of myself, I guess I
should ask who would be willing to throw in money for the event?  Also, how
many people are on this list right now?

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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Net-Party

I'd attend a net-party as long as it's in new york or farther north (but not 
NYC)

Being as far north as i am kinda puts a damper on meet-ups. Anyone here from 
BR? I was never able to go to the picnics because of how far north i am 
(combined with having been 15 at the time.)

I agree with whoever said Albany

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The DMC NYC scratch off is at Webster Hall tomorrow.  I will definately be there...went last year and it was amazing, a little crowded, but alot of fun.  There's booths will all new technology, samples, etc.  The only bad thing is that you can't smoke in there (well, its bad if you do smoke, good if you dont) & I don't know how they will be about making a smoking section (the last party I was at at Webster Hall, they had a part of the front sectioned off, but it didnt seem like a great spot)....and they also had that truth rat in the middle of the audience dancing along to the beats.  It was hysterical.  It was at the Roxy - which is SUCH a better spot - but there's a stage & balcony at Webster Hall so us shorties can see.
 
Ummm...heres the info if you wanna go...check out this site.
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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Net-Party

On Wed, 5 May 2004, Mama Sutra wrote:

>      That wouldn't really matter so long as the party isn't rushed I don't
> think.  Do you know enough people in Philadelphia that would be able to promote
> to each respective crew individually?  It's really no different anywhere else I
> don't think.  It's just a question of people going to parties and handing out
> flyers.

Agreed. It's just a matter of time and effort. What are people's feeling
regarding the efficacy of paper flyers versus an online campaign posting
on every message board we can get our hands on? If you'd have to guess the
breakdown what would it be?

paper flyer
e-flyer
message board
word of mouth

> party?  It would be interesting to see how many people they pull in.  The party
> is $25 in advance right?  Actually, before I get a head of myself, I guess I
> should ask who would be willing to throw in money for the event?  Also, how
> many people are on this list right now?

I'd toss some $$$ into the pot for seed money. Maybe $300 to 500, maybe
more dependent on further risk analysis :)  I sort of evesdrop on the SF
planners list and they have a decent idea of presale via Paypal or some
such vehicle. Unfortunantly we aren't really a known production entity so
I'd be skeptical of putting money down myself. What I had in mind a while
back for NYC was a full disclosure on the site of how much came in from
what sources. Expenses broken down. Etc. I can volunteer to do the
accounting if no one else wants to.

Aside from space, we should agree on how talent gets compensated and be
very open and firm once policy is set. I'm very against bending rules for
prima donna DJs. They should understand it's basically a one-off with its
main interest in cutting even and if lucky a little extra which would be
held over for future events or a smaller free give away, thank you party.

Pipe up people. This is an opportunity to make it _your_ party. Ownership
defined by sweat equity  :)

Jasper

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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Net-Party

Quoting Jasper Lin <jasper@hyperreal.org>:

> Agreed. It's just a matter of time and effort. What are people's feeling
> regarding the efficacy of paper flyers versus an online campaign posting
> on every message board we can get our hands on? If you'd have to guess the
> breakdown what would it be?
>
> paper flyer
> e-flyer
> message board
> word of mouth

     My vote would go to all of the above with an emphasis on paper flyers.  Net
promotion just doesn't pull a crowd especially if it's net promotion way in
advance because people will likely forget.  The best bet would be to take
advantage of every means of communication possible.  Flyers aren't the priciest
thing in the world.

> I'd toss some $$$ into the pot for seed money. Maybe $300 to 500, maybe
> more dependent on further risk analysis :)  I sort of evesdrop on the SF
> planners list and they have a decent idea of presale via Paypal or some
> such vehicle. Unfortunantly we aren't really a known production entity so
> I'd be skeptical of putting money down myself. What I had in mind a while
> back for NYC was a full disclosure on the site of how much came in from
> what sources. Expenses broken down. Etc. I can volunteer to do the
> accounting if no one else wants to.

     Perhaps we should take this to a slightly different level and incorporate? 
We could then look into the possibility of people putting some money into the
corporate entity to build a line of credit through the corporate entity itself.
 That would take a bit of a financial burden off of our shoulders if possible. 
Plus, since it would make us look more organized/professional, we could solicit
some sponsors that might pony up some cash in exchange for ads/promotional
activity at the event.  Granted, this is all talking about an initial put down
of some funds and it's only an out-there idea.  But, I could look into what the
final cost would be just to make that a possibility.

> Aside from space, we should agree on how talent gets compensated and be
> very open and firm once policy is set. I'm very against bending rules for
> prima donna DJs. They should understand it's basically a one-off with its
> main interest in cutting even and if lucky a little extra which would be
> held over for future events or a smaller free give away, thank you party.

     Well, that's something we could figure out once we had an idea of the other
costs involved and who we wanted to play.  If there is room, I think it would
be a good idea to have some not necesarilly net related DJs to pull in more
people.  Such types would probably want a booking fee.  But, as I alluded to
earlier, between a number of us, we could probably know some headliners that
would agree to do it for quite cheap if we explained the situation.  Non-net
DJs could possibly get some new people interested in the list again.

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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Net-Party

we have skate park venues here in central pa ;)

i'm sure they're not big though


--- Gil <gdrive@techsupport.cx> wrote:
> the problem is finding a person with the gumption in
> the north east to host
> a net party.  i think the ideal place for a ne-rave
> party would be Albany Ny
> because of its truly north east central location.
> unless you can get Columns
> of Knowldge to host a net party . . .
> 
> and park parties a measure of last resort.  they
> have to end at sundown and
> the sound system is always blowing into the open
> air, and neighbor parkers
> are mad at you
> 
> a net party needs to be indoors.
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "kelly d" <supapimpny@yahoo.com>
> To: "Mama Sutra" <lowkey@acidgrave.com>;
> <ne-raves@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 1:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Net-Party
> 
> 
> > Still think a park party would be better - permits
> are not all that
> expensive (nothing like a rental of a venue) and it
> would be nice to
> celebrate the summer.
> >
> > Personally...if its in Philly, I won't be there. 
> This is a NorthEast
> Raves list and NYC is alot closer to central
> NorthEast than Philly is.  We
> have people from way north on this list and I
> definately dont think that
> they would agree that Philly is a central part of
> the NorthEast.
> >
> > Maybe North Jersey is another option, but Philly
> is way to South to be
> considered an in-between point.  Besides, alot of
> net-parties have been in
> Philly before...alot of people didnt make it due to
> that fact...maybe we can
> set it up so that people who couldn't make it in the
> past, can actually come
> this year?
> >
> >
> > Mama Sutra <lowkey@acidgrave.com> wrote:
> > Quoting Nautical Nonsense :
> >
> > > not that my opinion means shit, but i HIGHLY
> doubt i'd
> > > make it up to nyc for a net party...
> >
> > Well, the venue mentioned was Philadelphia. Not a
> bad in between point at
> > all.
> >
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hyperreal netmeet would be cool.. i know there are
tons of people on dcraves...it's quite an active list


--- Nautical Nonsense <maryanarchy@yahoo.com> wrote:
> we have skate park venues here in central pa ;)
> 
> i'm sure they're not big though
> 
> 
> --- Gil <gdrive@techsupport.cx> wrote:
> > the problem is finding a person with the gumption
> in
> > the north east to host
> > a net party.  i think the ideal place for a
> ne-rave
> > party would be Albany Ny
> > because of its truly north east central location.
> > unless you can get Columns
> > of Knowldge to host a net party . . .
> > 
> > and park parties a measure of last resort.  they
> > have to end at sundown and
> > the sound system is always blowing into the open
> > air, and neighbor parkers
> > are mad at you
> > 
> > a net party needs to be indoors.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "kelly d" <supapimpny@yahoo.com>
> > To: "Mama Sutra" <lowkey@acidgrave.com>;
> > <ne-raves@hyperreal.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 1:49 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Net-Party
> > 
> > 
> > > Still think a park party would be better -
> permits
> > are not all that
> > expensive (nothing like a rental of a venue) and
> it
> > would be nice to
> > celebrate the summer.
> > >
> > > Personally...if its in Philly, I won't be there.
> 
> > This is a NorthEast
> > Raves list and NYC is alot closer to central
> > NorthEast than Philly is.  We
> > have people from way north on this list and I
> > definately dont think that
> > they would agree that Philly is a central part of
> > the NorthEast.
> > >
> > > Maybe North Jersey is another option, but Philly
> > is way to South to be
> > considered an in-between point.  Besides, alot of
> > net-parties have been in
> > Philly before...alot of people didnt make it due
> to
> > that fact...maybe we can
> > set it up so that people who couldn't make it in
> the
> > past, can actually come
> > this year?
> > >
> > >
> > > Mama Sutra <lowkey@acidgrave.com> wrote:
> > > Quoting Nautical Nonsense :
> > >
> > > > not that my opinion means shit, but i HIGHLY
> > doubt i'd
> > > > make it up to nyc for a net party...
> > >
> > > Well, the venue mentioned was Philadelphia. Not
> a
> > bad in between point at
> > > all.
> > >
> > > --
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> > Strength]
> > >
> > > "Give it five years, you'll retire your
> piercings
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> > > The trend is dead!" -- Pantera
> > >
> > >
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I think we should do a paper flyer along with the e-flyer, I think the paper
flyer would be easier to get to people that don't have computers, not to
mentions you can put them at ticket outlets such as Satellite Records.  As
far as DJing, I'm more than willing to do this for free, and I'm sure there
are some DJ's out there that will do the same, if they love the music,
Because in the end it's about the music and the people, not the money.

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People who can't dance, blame the DJ.

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On Wed, 5 May 2004, Mama Sutra wrote:

>      That wouldn't really matter so long as the party isn't rushed I don't
> think.  Do you know enough people in Philadelphia that would be able to
promote
> to each respective crew individually?  It's really no different anywhere
else I
> don't think.  It's just a question of people going to parties and handing
out
> flyers.

Agreed. It's just a matter of time and effort. What are people's feeling
regarding the efficacy of paper flyers versus an online campaign posting
on every message board we can get our hands on? If you'd have to guess the
breakdown what would it be?

paper flyer
e-flyer
message board
word of mouth

> party?  It would be interesting to see how many people they pull in.  The
party
> is $25 in advance right?  Actually, before I get a head of myself, I guess
I
> should ask who would be willing to throw in money for the event?  Also,
how
> many people are on this list right now?

I'd toss some $$$ into the pot for seed money. Maybe $300 to 500, maybe
more dependent on further risk analysis :)  I sort of evesdrop on the SF
planners list and they have a decent idea of presale via Paypal or some
such vehicle. Unfortunantly we aren't really a known production entity so
I'd be skeptical of putting money down myself. What I had in mind a while
back for NYC was a full disclosure on the site of how much came in from
what sources. Expenses broken down. Etc. I can volunteer to do the
accounting if no one else wants to.

Aside from space, we should agree on how talent gets compensated and be
very open and firm once policy is set. I'm very against bending rules for
prima donna DJs. They should understand it's basically a one-off with its
main interest in cutting even and if lucky a little extra which would be
held over for future events or a smaller free give away, thank you party.

Pipe up people. This is an opportunity to make it _your_ party. Ownership
defined by sweat equity  :)

Jasper

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Still out of commission? Just wondering if you could do a little listserve
auditting. If it matters the NYC Raves list has roughly ~380 people.
Attendance has probably dropped due to my ranting and raving but we
haven't had a flame war in a _very_ long time either :)
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speaking of which,  what kind, kinds of music are we looking at?  what do most ppz on these lists(nyc,Dc,NE) mainly listen to?  anyone have a guess?

In a message dated 5/5/2004 3:23:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, JBrennan@actny.uscg.mil writes:

> I think we should do a paper flyer along with the e-flyer, I think the paper
> flyer would be easier to get to people that don't have computers, not to
> mentions you can put them at ticket outlets such as Satellite Records.  As
> far as DJing, I'm more than willing to do this for free, and I'm sure there
> are some DJ's out there that will do the same, if they love the music,
> Because in the end it's about the music and the people, not 
> the money.
> 
> JJ Brennan (DJ Incognito)
> People who can't dance, blame the DJ.

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Well I can speak for myself, I listen to mostly Progressive Trance and I
spin a mix of Epic/Progressive Trance.  I can listen to almost anything at a
party though.

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speaking of which,  what kind, kinds of music are we looking at?  what do
most ppz on these lists(nyc,Dc,NE) mainly listen to?  anyone have a guess?

In a message dated 5/5/2004 3:23:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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> I think we should do a paper flyer along with the e-flyer, I think the
paper
> flyer would be easier to get to people that don't have computers, not to
> mentions you can put them at ticket outlets such as Satellite Records.  As
> far as DJing, I'm more than willing to do this for free, and I'm sure
there
> are some DJ's out there that will do the same, if they love the music,
> Because in the end it's about the music and the people, not 
> the money.
> 
> JJ Brennan (DJ Incognito)
> People who can't dance, blame the DJ.

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i like anything...very rarely do i not like a genre of
edm


--- Gtown685@aol.com wrote:
> speaking of which,  what kind, kinds of music are we
> looking at?  what do most ppz on these
> lists(nyc,Dc,NE) mainly listen to?  anyone have a
> guess?
> 
> In a message dated 5/5/2004 3:23:42 PM Eastern
> Daylight Time, JBrennan@actny.uscg.mil writes:
> 
> > I think we should do a paper flyer along with the
> e-flyer, I think the paper
> > flyer would be easier to get to people that don't
> have computers, not to
> > mentions you can put them at ticket outlets such
> as Satellite Records.  As
> > far as DJing, I'm more than willing to do this for
> free, and I'm sure there
> > are some DJ's out there that will do the same, if
> they love the music,
> > Because in the end it's about the music and the
> people, not 
> > the money.
> > 
> > JJ Brennan (DJ Incognito)
> > People who can't dance, blame the DJ.
> 
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On Wed, 5 May 2004, Mama Sutra wrote:

> Quoting Jasper Lin <jasper@hyperreal.org>:
>
>      Perhaps we should take this to a slightly different level and incorporate?
> We could then look into the possibility of people putting some money into the
> corporate entity to build a line of credit through the corporate entity itself.

Ehh... doesn't sound so hot to me but I can't honestly say I know exactly
what this would entail. But it comforting to know we have a lawyer on
staff. Could you elaborate a little?

> some sponsors that might pony up some cash in exchange for ads/promotional
> activity at the event.  Granted, this is all talking about an initial put down
> of some funds and it's only an out-there idea.  But, I could look into what the
> final cost would be just to make that a possibility.

Ehh... I've asked Brian about sponsors for events and he doesn't have a
problems with it but for some reason I seem to be bothered by this more
than most. I just don't like the idea of a Hyperreal event being
corporately sponsored as much as I hate to admit that it's nearly
impossible otherwise. If we agree to do something large scale I think this
may be beyond the means of a grassroots list. Sounds like we might just
turn into a new crew that spawned from connection on the NE Raves list
which is fine. But Hyperreal is pretty much the only rave associated
entity that doesn't have some weird reputation. Not sure if it's this way
where you are but every crew in NYC seems to have beef with another and I
just don't see the point of doing a list thing especially if by all
accounts the list will be a very small portion of the attendees.

>      Well, that's something we could figure out once we had an idea of the other
> costs involved and who we wanted to play.  If there is room, I think it would
> be a good idea to have some not necesarilly net related DJs to pull in more
> people.  Such types would probably want a booking fee.  But, as I alluded to
> earlier, between a number of us, we could probably know some headliners that
> would agree to do it for quite cheap if we explained the situation.  Non-net
> DJs could possibly get some new people interested in the list again.

Definitley some outside DJs with name recognition. As much as I love you
guys and indisputably talented you are, you list people don't have any
pull. Off the top of my head what about Liquid Todd? He seems very
activist-minded and if we tied this event in with education and action
regarding the RAVE Act and cabaret laws he might be sympathetic.

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On Wed, 5 May 2004 Gtown685@aol.com wrote:

> speaking of which, what kind, kinds of music are we looking at?  what do
> most ppz on these lists(nyc,Dc,NE) mainly listen to?  anyone have a
> guess?

Ideally an old school rave with as much representation as possible. Miss
the days when a single DJ would cycle through multiple genres in one set.
No offense but no progressive trance. Opinion aside that's the _one_ genre
you can be sure to hear anywhere in any old club. House here is still
very much an older, gay, black and Latino thing. Trance has a very loyal
following but they completely segregate themselves from everyone else.
Would really like to hear some really good hard Goa or psy trance in the
same night with other stuff. Anything with some breaks in it seems
popular. Drum'n'bass?.. hard to say. Not nearly as popular as it was only
a couple of years ago. Been to a big drum'n'bass event with a lousy
showing recently. Hardcore is strong and loyal but kind of small. I get
the impression they don't really like playing with others. I should defer
to Lowkey here.

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Quoting Jasper Lin <jasper@hyperreal.org>:

> Hardcore is strong and loyal but kind of small. I get
> the impression they don't really like playing with others. I should defer
> to Lowkey here.

     Actually, I kinda think it's the other way around, that promoters don't
particularly care to play with hardcore.  But, back to topic, I like the idea
of diversity in a line-up.  But, the type of music that should be present
really should be the last of our concerns at this moment.  More important
logisitics such as a venue and funds need to be addressed first.  Hey, Gil. 
How much would the spot in Philadelphia run?  To everyone else, if you know of
a venue you like and have an idea of the cost, feel free to post.

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>what kinds of music are we looking at?  what do most ppz on these lists
>(nyc,Dc,NE) mainly listen to?  anyone have a guess?


It's more than just music, though. If your gonna have a party, I'm begging 
you to please put your 100% into it. Things as simple as decorations. I 
haven't seen actual decorations at a party in YEARS (aside from the parties 
that I myself have helped decorate). Tapestries, christmas lights, candles, 
things people have made that just look cool, random art. Think less "rock 
concert" and more 'Rave'. Visuals screens don't necessarily have to be 
behind the DJ... stuff like that. Make it more intimate for the party goers 
and less about worshiping whoevers on stage.

and have a chill room actualy be a chill room. Anyone ever read that list 
from a long time ago called something like "100 rules for raving" or 
something like that? (it used to be on every kandy kid geocities homepage in 
the world) The only thing i remember from the list was "Don't play gabber in 
the chill room..." A chill room needs an ambient dj. No NRG, DnB, or hip hop 
or anything, just really chill music.



But as far as main room music goes i don't know what people on any these 
LISTS listen to...

but as for what's popular amoungst the general party-attending population:

Darkstep jungle/dnb
pleasurehead style trance
"hard dance" (whatever the hell that's supposed to meen)


what do 'I' want to hear?

nrg (no hard trance, for the love of god)
deep funky disco house
minimal techno
93-94 jungle/dnb
nu skool breaks


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actually , im not too confident the spot in philly is the right place for a
net party.  for starters in one day of chatting about this, i see all the
same questions and back and forth that has plagued every net party for the
past 10 years.

i personally can arrange the spot,  but i will not do so until someone here
claims to be the actual 'head promoter'.  once i see a complete list of djs,
a flyer design, and sufficient scene interest than i can arrange the spot.

i wont burn a month on my lawyers work on the spot and permits with out a
solid party.

so inshort, provide ma a list of 7 djs, a solid flyer, and a promoter to
head this who has about $3,000 and i'll get involved from there.



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> Quoting Jasper Lin <jasper@hyperreal.org>:
>
> > Hardcore is strong and loyal but kind of small. I get
> > the impression they don't really like playing with others. I should
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> > to Lowkey here.
>
>      Actually, I kinda think it's the other way around, that promoters
don't
> particularly care to play with hardcore.  But, back to topic, I like the
idea
> of diversity in a line-up.  But, the type of music that should be present
> really should be the last of our concerns at this moment.  More important
> logisitics such as a venue and funds need to be addressed first.  Hey,
Gil.
> How much would the spot in Philadelphia run?  To everyone else, if you
know of
> a venue you like and have an idea of the cost, feel free to post.
>
> --
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>
> "Give it five years, you'll retire your piercings
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Quoting Gil <gdrive@techsupport.cx>:

> actually , im not too confident the spot in philly is the right place for a
> net party.  for starters in one day of chatting about this, i see all the
> same questions and back and forth that has plagued every net party for the
> past 10 years.

     Well, that's what happens in initial conversation especially when it's open
to everyone.

> i personally can arrange the spot,  but i will not do so until someone here
> claims to be the actual 'head promoter'.  once i see a complete list of djs,
> a flyer design, and sufficient scene interest than i can arrange the spot.
> i wont burn a month on my lawyers work on the spot and permits with out a
> solid party.

     I'm not asking you to arrange the spot.  I'm asking how much it would cost.
 Do you have a ballpark estimate offhand?  Depending on how this is done, while
using a central location is a nice idea, I lean more towards a cost effective
venue in a populated area.  So, nobody get ahead of themselves yet.  Let's talk
prices and figure out some very basic issues first.  Then we can figure out
whether or not it's worth burning a month of your lawyers work. ;)

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Not to mention the plugs on 92.3  hehe.
 
So just to clarify....where do people live and what do you think would be a centralized location (somewhere that you will be willing to travel to)??
 
Also...I know people want to make $$ and all, but I thought the net party was a chance for people to know the faces behind the words.  They were always $3 or $5 to cover the expenses...and dj's spun for free...and they were all list djs.  Also, you could only come if you were or came with someone from the list.  It was meant to be an intimate gathering where you can meet EVERYONE.  If you wanna throw a party - go for yours, but dont call it a net party, call it a party - have a meetup and hope that people know who you are and come to the meet up point at the right time.
 
I will be willing to check out parks in the NYC / LI area to host a real net party...where you know that everyone there has something to do with the list.  List djs will be able to spin and put their skills out there (of course, demos should be listened to so we dont have do deal with trainwrecks and bad djs).  Let's do this right - not in it to make money (this isnt anyones livlihood) lets do a net party where you meet the people youve been siding with, fighting with, laughing with, comforting.  We can always meert up at a huge party - why not have our own?

Jasper Lin <jasper@hyperreal.org> wrote:
Definitley some outside DJs with name recognition. As much as I love you
guys and indisputably talented you are, you list people don't have any
pull. Off the top of my head what about Liquid Todd? He seems very
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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Net-Party, what's hot?

an upfront $1800 for 9pm till 4 am party.


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> Quoting Gil <gdrive@techsupport.cx>:
>
> > actually , im not too confident the spot in philly is the right place
for a
> > net party.  for starters in one day of chatting about this, i see all
the
> > same questions and back and forth that has plagued every net party for
the
> > past 10 years.
>
>      Well, that's what happens in initial conversation especially when
it's open
> to everyone.
>
> > i personally can arrange the spot,  but i will not do so until someone
here
> > claims to be the actual 'head promoter'.  once i see a complete list of
djs,
> > a flyer design, and sufficient scene interest than i can arrange the
spot.
> > i wont burn a month on my lawyers work on the spot and permits with out
a
> > solid party.
>
>      I'm not asking you to arrange the spot.  I'm asking how much it would
cost.
>  Do you have a ballpark estimate offhand?  Depending on how this is done,
while
> using a central location is a nice idea, I lean more towards a cost
effective
> venue in a populated area.  So, nobody get ahead of themselves yet.  Let's
talk
> prices and figure out some very basic issues first.  Then we can figure
out
> whether or not it's worth burning a month of your lawyers work. ;)
>
> --
> Low-Key/Tocsin [Apocalypse, BMR, Industrial Strength]
>
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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Net-Party

Quoting kelly d <supapimpny@yahoo.com>:

> Also...I know people want to make $$ and all, but I thought the net party was
> a chance for people to know the faces behind the words.  They were always $3
> or $5 to cover the expenses...and dj's spun for free...and they were all list
> djs.  Also, you could only come if you were or came with someone from the
> list.  It was meant to be an intimate gathering where you can meet EVERYONE.
> If you wanna throw a party - go for yours, but dont call it a net party, call
> it a party - have a meetup and hope that people know who you are and come to
> the meet up point at the right time.

     Before such stories start flying around, let me state that there really is
no tradition with any ne-raves party.  A lot of it is almost folklore at this
point.  It is a fact that at the first net party, Mosaic, not every DJ was a
member of the ne-raves list.  In fact at least one or two were not currently
members of any list at all as I recall.  But, my memory is fuzzy there.  The
cost, I believe was $8.  It was not even central to the north-east and, rather,
was in Baltimore.  The only reason I'm bringing this up is that "how it was
done" often seems to come up as a reason to be inflexable and, in a lot of
situations, the stories of how it was done weren't really true.
     Now, as for the idea of throwing just a net-party, it depends how much work
you want to do.  Naturally, a park party would be simple enough but it would
still require a good degree of work that will stress people out with a likely
turnout of maybe 40 people nowadays.  This list just isn't as strong as it was
in the past.  At a number of the parties thrown by some of the larger upstate
promoters at one point, however, (Phat-O from Syracuse and Flex from Rochester)
there was a "ne-raves room" where all net DJs spun.  I really don't think a net
party will pull enough people to warrant renting an indoor venue today.  But,
if you went the hybrid route, had a net room, and rather than calling it a "net
party" (if that would bother people, simply said the event was sponsored by
north-east raves, you could get more people to show up and possibly generate
new interest in the e-mail list.  My vote would be taking it that way.

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On Wed,  5 May 2004 14:22:00 -0400 Mama Sutra <lowkey@acidgrave.com>
writes:
> Also, how
> many people are on this list right now?

i'm back :P and i don't mind driving too much. somewhere north of
philadelphia would be nice... i thought we'd decided around 10-year
anniversary time that we didn't necessarily want to have the next net
party in the same place as the last one (philly). but, who knows?

albany sounds nice, but i dunno of any decent spots in or around there.
you could try to get a hold of whoever's left of EDMS--they might know a
few good places. but from what i recall, the pickings are kinda slim.
there were a few places around poughkeepsie and schenectady that weren't
bad, but i don't think you'd draw a lot of people by having a party in
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How about Allentown, PA for a central location?

Amd I still think we should invite other lists or get them involved.

KeNNy!

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> Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 17:18:34 -0400
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> To: ne-raves@hyperreal.org
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>
> On Wed,  5 May 2004 14:22:00 -0400 Mama Sutra <lowkey@acidgrave.com>
> writes:
> > Also, how
> > many people are on this list right now?
>
> i'm back :P and i don't mind driving too much. somewhere north of
> philadelphia would be nice... i thought we'd decided around 10-year
> anniversary time that we didn't necessarily want to have the next net
> party in the same place as the last one (philly). but, who knows?
>
> albany sounds nice, but i dunno of any decent spots in or around there.
> you could try to get a hold of whoever's left of EDMS--they might know a
> few good places. but from what i recall, the pickings are kinda slim.
> there were a few places around poughkeepsie and schenectady that weren't
> bad, but i don't think you'd draw a lot of people by having a party in
> that area.
>
> -ryan
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i wanna hear trance.  meaning goa, psytrance, prog(not sasha but sonkite/ticon/antix)


and by the way goa parties always have a huge deco aspect.  not saying that this should be a goa party but i think its one of the things that give that genre a certain integrity.  

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>and by the way goa parties always have a huge deco aspect.  not saying that 
>this should be a goa party but i think its one of the things that give that 
>genre a certain integrity.

yeah, i went to one out in the woods here in NH once and they had all sorts 
of weird things, including a zipline thing that took you over top of the 
party.

I didn't have enough balls to try it though.

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>what kinds of music are we looking at?  what do most ppz on these lists
>(nyc,Dc,NE) mainly listen to?  anyone have a guess?


It's more than just music, though. If your gonna have a party, I'm
begging 
you to please put your 100% into it. Things as simple as decorations. I 
haven't seen actual decorations at a party in YEARS (aside from the
parties 
that I myself have helped decorate). Tapestries, christmas lights,
candles, 
things people have made that just look cool, random art. Think less
"rock 
concert" and more 'Rave'. Visuals screens don't necessarily have to be 
behind the DJ... stuff like that. Make it more intimate for the party
goers 
and less about worshiping whoevers on stage.

and have a chill room actualy be a chill room. Anyone ever read that
list 
from a long time ago called something like "100 rules for raving" or 
something like that? (it used to be on every kandy kid geocities
homepage in 
the world) The only thing i remember from the list was "Don't play
gabber in 
the chill room..." A chill room needs an ambient dj. No NRG, DnB, or hip
hop 
or anything, just really chill music.



But as far as main room music goes i don't know what people on any these

LISTS listen to...

but as for what's popular amoungst the general party-attending
population:

Darkstep jungle/dnb
pleasurehead style trance
"hard dance" (whatever the hell that's supposed to meen)


what do 'I' want to hear?

nrg (no hard trance, for the love of god)
deep funky disco house
minimal techno
93-94 jungle/dnb
nu skool breaks


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i cant do these emails all day long.  if you guys decide you would like to
pursue philly, let me know.


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> TECHNOOOOOO!
>
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> http://www.kindvideo.com
> 516-996-2581
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> [DJ Round-N-Round]
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> http://kindradio.net
>
>
>
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> Subject: [ne-raves] Net-Party, what people want
>
> >what kinds of music are we looking at?  what do most ppz on these lists
> >(nyc,Dc,NE) mainly listen to?  anyone have a guess?
>
>
> It's more than just music, though. If your gonna have a party, I'm
> begging
> you to please put your 100% into it. Things as simple as decorations. I
> haven't seen actual decorations at a party in YEARS (aside from the
> parties
> that I myself have helped decorate). Tapestries, christmas lights,
> candles,
> things people have made that just look cool, random art. Think less
> "rock
> concert" and more 'Rave'. Visuals screens don't necessarily have to be
> behind the DJ... stuff like that. Make it more intimate for the party
> goers
> and less about worshiping whoevers on stage.
>
> and have a chill room actualy be a chill room. Anyone ever read that
> list
> from a long time ago called something like "100 rules for raving" or
> something like that? (it used to be on every kandy kid geocities
> homepage in
> the world) The only thing i remember from the list was "Don't play
> gabber in
> the chill room..." A chill room needs an ambient dj. No NRG, DnB, or hip
> hop
> or anything, just really chill music.
>
>
>
> But as far as main room music goes i don't know what people on any these
>
> LISTS listen to...
>
> but as for what's popular amoungst the general party-attending
> population:
>
> Darkstep jungle/dnb
> pleasurehead style trance
> "hard dance" (whatever the hell that's supposed to meen)
>
>
> what do 'I' want to hear?
>
> nrg (no hard trance, for the love of god)
> deep funky disco house
> minimal techno
> 93-94 jungle/dnb
> nu skool breaks
>
>
> -Drew Blair
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Subject: [ne-raves] Albany's a good spot!

Hey Y'all,
   Scooby here.  I'm one of the heads of Independent Technologies in 
Albany, NY.  We run the only weekly in the area and are opening a 
record store soon.  If Albany's under consideration, we could have the 
party on a Saturday at Quintessence which is where we throw the weekly. 
  Great spot, holds about 100-120 people and the venue would cost 
nothing.  I'd have to talk to my crew and make sure they're cool with 
it and we're currently booked through the middle of July, but I don't 
think it would be a bad idea???
--------------------------
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Breakbeat Assassin
Independent Technologies
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albany is my vote for most cenetered location.


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> Hey Y'all,
>    Scooby here.  I'm one of the heads of Independent Technologies in 
> Albany, NY.  We run the only weekly in the area and are opening a 
> record store soon.  If Albany's under consideration, we could have the 
> party on a Saturday at Quintessence which is where we throw the weekly. 
>   Great spot, holds about 100-120 people and the venue would cost 
> nothing.  I'd have to talk to my crew and make sure they're cool with 
> it and we're currently booked through the middle of July, but I don't 
> think it would be a bad idea???
> --------------------------
> Scooby Carolan
> Breakbeat Assassin
> Independent Technologies
> http://www.indytechrocks.com/
> http://scooby.em411.com/
> scooby@indytechrocks.com
> +1(518)364-6163
> 
> Konichiwa Mutha Fucka
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--- Jasper Lin <jasper@hyperreal.org> wrote:
> Still out of commission? Just wondering if you could do a little listserve
> auditting. If it matters the NYC Raves list has roughly ~380 people.
> Attendance has probably dropped due to my ranting and raving but we
> haven't had a flame war in a _very_ long time either :)

Well my honeymoon ends tommrow, however, I broke my wrist the day before my
wedding, and didnt get it looked at till sat becuse I thought it was a sprain.
So right now I type this with one hand, while taken oxycodines and drinking a
few beers to be numb... Once I go to work where I have a real interweb
connection I will run a total doing ssh from directway sattelite internet
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as is mine



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In a message dated 4/27/04 12:34:52 PM, supapimpny@yahoo.com writes:

<< Theres a cute lil bar on Orchard St (NYC) called Swim that has amazing 
sushi (I dont personally eat it, but heard its the best)  There was a trance 
party there on Wednesday's but it kinda fell through due to promoter changes...so 
I don't know what they do on the weekends.  I believe that they have tables 
already set up there and the sound isn't that bad.  It's a couple of blocks away 
from the Orchard bar...cute spot - small, but cute.  Don't know how many 
people usually come to these netparties bc as I've said, I usually don't go due to 
distance.  The place can prob fit around 50 or so comfortably (there's alot 
of seating...not a huge dancing area...depends if youre looking for lounge or 
club... this would qualify as lounge).  Also, maybe Karma the hookah 
lounge...it has room to dance downstairs, comfortable seating as well, but  needs 
additional sound brought in if I remember correctly).
  >>

no room to dance at Swim, although we took a collection and they kept the bar 
open sometimes till 6AM on weekends (unofficially of course)

Karma isn't a bad spot, sure the sound isn't the best, but considering what a 
small spot it is, how much sound would you want without disturbing the 
neighbors

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No offense Jasper but some people might want to hear Prog. Trance, me being
one of them, even when it's not me.  I'm not saying make the whole night
Prog. just one or two DJ's.  Their are some people that like it, I mean the
No. 1,2,3 DJ's in the world are Prog. Trance DJ's, DJ Tiesto, Paul Van Dyk,
Armin Van Buuren, that's saying something.

JJ Brennan (DJ Incognito)
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On Wed, 5 May 2004 Gtown685@aol.com wrote:

> speaking of which, what kind, kinds of music are we looking at?  what do
> most ppz on these lists(nyc,Dc,NE) mainly listen to?  anyone have a
> guess?

Ideally an old school rave with as much representation as possible. Miss
the days when a single DJ would cycle through multiple genres in one set.
No offense but no progressive trance. Opinion aside that's the _one_ genre
you can be sure to hear anywhere in any old club. House here is still
very much an older, gay, black and Latino thing. Trance has a very loyal
following but they completely segregate themselves from everyone else.
Would really like to hear some really good hard Goa or psy trance in the
same night with other stuff. Anything with some breaks in it seems
popular. Drum'n'bass?.. hard to say. Not nearly as popular as it was only
a couple of years ago. Been to a big drum'n'bass event with a lousy
showing recently. Hardcore is strong and loyal but kind of small. I get
the impression they don't really like playing with others. I should defer
to Lowkey here.

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Like I said in the past, I live in Staten Island, NY but distance doesn't
bother me, so wherever it is I'm there.

JJ Brennan (DJ Incognito)
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albany is my vote for most cenetered location.


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> Hey Y'all,
>    Scooby here.  I'm one of the heads of Independent Technologies in 
> Albany, NY.  We run the only weekly in the area and are opening a 
> record store soon.  If Albany's under consideration, we could have the 
> party on a Saturday at Quintessence which is where we throw the weekly. 
>   Great spot, holds about 100-120 people and the venue would cost 
> nothing.  I'd have to talk to my crew and make sure they're cool with 
> it and we're currently booked through the middle of July, but I don't 
> think it would be a bad idea???
> --------------------------
> Scooby Carolan
> Breakbeat Assassin
> Independent Technologies
> http://www.indytechrocks.com/
> http://scooby.em411.com/
> scooby@indytechrocks.com
> +1(518)364-6163
> 
> Konichiwa Mutha Fucka
> 
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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Net-Party

I think it should be all hardcore techno, free tekno, noize, terrorcore, power
noise, gabber, breakcore, and speedcore.  I think the kids would really enjoy
that :P

A diverse lineup in necessary- if I have to listen to goa all night i might stab
my own eardrums.

Albany is nice, but may be a little far west.  It's fine for ppl in NYC, but
anyone south of Trenton will be cut out, b/c that would be one hell of a trip. 
How about a more central location?   We should also take into consideration the
season, ie if it's in the fall, a place where the leaves are changeing will be
nice, if it's in the winter, let's do it more south so there is less chance of
it getting snowed out, etc.

t-bone
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You forgot HHC!

pLuR!

HuGz!

SmileZ!

Stabs whoever invented hhc in the eye with a lollipopo...

Yeah, I agree totally with a diverse lineup.  It's really the only way we
can do it.  And maybe the question we should be asking is what not to
play...

KeNNy!

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On Thu, 6 May 2004, t-bone wrote:

> Date: Thu,  6 May 2004 10:08:22 -0400
> From: t-bone <t-bone@acidgrave.com>
> To: Jasper Lin <jasper@hyperreal.org>
> Cc: ne-raves@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Net-Party
>
> I think it should be all hardcore techno, free tekno, noize, terrorcore, power
> noise, gabber, breakcore, and speedcore.  I think the kids would really enjoy
> that :P
>
> A diverse lineup in necessary- if I have to listen to goa all night i might stab
> my own eardrums.
>
> Albany is nice, but may be a little far west.  It's fine for ppl in NYC, but
> anyone south of Trenton will be cut out, b/c that would be one hell of a trip.
> How about a more central location?   We should also take into consideration the
> season, ie if it's in the fall, a place where the leaves are changeing will be
> nice, if it's in the winter, let's do it more south so there is less chance of
> it getting snowed out, etc.
>
> t-bone
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On Thu, 6 May 2004, Brennan, James PO (ACTNY) wrote:

> No offense Jasper but some people might want to hear Prog. Trance, me being
> one of them, even when it's not me.  I'm not saying make the whole night
> Prog. just one or two DJ's.  Their are some people that like it, I mean the
> No. 1,2,3 DJ's in the world are Prog. Trance DJ's, DJ Tiesto, Paul Van Dyk,
> Armin Van Buuren, that's saying something.

I don't want to get into a argument but the fact that the top popular DJs
play prog. trance is _precisely_ why it doesn't need to be heard at a
party like this that is grassroots and list driven. I'm not knocking the
stuff -- got a Sasha mix somewhere. I just feel that we're on the same
page with wanting to do a relatively underground event to hear live what
we normally would only get to do at home via downloaded and streaming
MP3s. Doesn't that make sense? If some kid is going to play what Tiesto
plays what's the point? We all know what to expect and there is no
shortage of places to go that regularly cater to this genre and crowd.
What is supremely rare is a truly mixed lineup showcasing talented people
that may be just coming up. The rave movement has become _very_ splintered
and I see no reason why it should be or how that is anything but
detrimental to creative cross-polinatioon.
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Anyone have it?

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Man, the last thing I want to do is start an argument or have a battle of
wits with a man that's unarmed.  Just kidding man.  No it's all good, I was
just expressing my feelings on it.  
But I definitely agree with some of the other people and think that's the
last thing we need to worry about right now, I think the where the venue is
going to be, along with promoting and permits is at the top of the list
right now.

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On Thu, 6 May 2004, Brennan, James PO (ACTNY) wrote:

> No offense Jasper but some people might want to hear Prog. Trance, me
being
> one of them, even when it's not me.  I'm not saying make the whole night
> Prog. just one or two DJ's.  Their are some people that like it, I mean
the
> No. 1,2,3 DJ's in the world are Prog. Trance DJ's, DJ Tiesto, Paul Van
Dyk,
> Armin Van Buuren, that's saying something.

I don't want to get into a argument but the fact that the top popular DJs
play prog. trance is _precisely_ why it doesn't need to be heard at a
party like this that is grassroots and list driven. I'm not knocking the
stuff -- got a Sasha mix somewhere. I just feel that we're on the same
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we normally would only get to do at home via downloaded and streaming
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plays what's the point? We all know what to expect and there is no
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Subject: [ne-raves] Too Early to Discuss DJs/Sounds


     The fact of the matter is that, so far, we have yet to even decide on a
location.  From what I can remember offhand, the following locations have been
proposed:

Philadelphia
Allentown
NYC
Albany

     In the following locations, we may have an Albany spot that can hold
roughly 120 people which may or may not be available for free.  In
Philadelphia, we possibly have a ballroom which can hold 500[?] people and is
available for $1800 up front.  Two choices so far out of 2 large cities.  If
anyone is serious, effort should be focussed on finding cheap venues in the
location you'd prefer.
     While I'd love to work with the idea of doing a party in the dead center of
the northeast that is most convenient to everyone, we need to be pragmatic and
weigh in costs as more important.  I say this because net parties have not
gotten a lot of financial support before they go off.  In all likelihood, the
burden of the initial costs is going to fall on a couple peoples' shoulders.
     This is what needs to be determined first.  Music can come second.  My
personal opinion on it is that we should leave music choices to the list via a
web-vote.  This can be done for both genre and DJ.
     In addition, if there is going to be any substantial financial burden in
this, I'm opposed to making it a list only event.  This list is not strong
enough to have a word-of-list promotion party go off which is only open to list
members or friends of list members.  In the past, yes, net parties have been
occassions for people to meet others face to face on the list.  Now we have a
dead ne-raves list.  No offense to anyone but this list is about as dead as it
can get especially given the activity it once had.  So, rather than having a
net-party for the sake of just meeting people from the list, why not have one
where a room could cater to those who would want to meet while also having a
room that would cater to an outside crowd and possibly get people interested in
ne-raves again?  If we are going to spend money on this event, I see no reason
not to take full advantage and try and bring in new blood.  If it's a free park
thing or something like that, then I don't really care.

So things that need to be addressed now before anything else:

1.) Decide what type of party we are doing.  Indoor or outdoor?  Small
attendance for meet up purposes only or larger attendance to bring in new
faces?

2.) Location and venue costs.

When these basic issues are covered, then we can start worrying about
DJs/performers.

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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Net-Party

Quoting KaNdE KiD KeNNy! <kenny@orwell.lost-angel.com>:
> You forgot HHC!

I try to forget about HHC as much as possible, thank you very much ;)

Weren't we just talking about how Allentown is not the best place to throw a
party right now?  I'd hesitate to throw something there, seems that the area is
'hot' right now for such events.

Yes, the entertainment is really the last factor that comes into play, just
wanted to go on the record for- Wheee! Terrorcore! :)

I'd vote for an indoor party, since 1. there are a lot of outdoor events already
planned for this summer and fall and 2. you don't have to rely on the weather. 
However, if someone has or knows of someone who has land we can use, that will
drascially reduce the cost of the party, and is something to be considered.
Since ppl will be traveling a lot regardless of where it is located, perhaps a
campout would be nice, if we go the outdoor route.

Chill out JJ.  Jasper is hardly argueing with you- he didn't even say "no", just
that there should be diversity, with which I concurr with 100%.

except for goa, goa sux :P

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Subject: [ne-raves] Suggestion

I think the party should be somewhere along the I-95 corridor...eg from
philly to boston.



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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Net-Party

On Thu, 6 May 2004, t-bone wrote:

> Yes, the entertainment is really the last factor that comes into play, just
> wanted to go on the record for- Wheee! Terrorcore! :)

Yeah I got carried away for bit. Don't get me wrong, I'm no big Goa,
crunchy, trance hippie. For some reason it's nostalgic I guess. I only
need 15 mintues or so because it quickly wears on me as well.

"Whee! Terrorcore!" I'm sure I've never heard that at a party :)  Kids too
busy being tough, bad and punching each other in the neck. More like
"Terrorcore! Yeah, I'm going to kick your face in!"

> Since ppl will be traveling a lot regardless of where it is located, perhaps a
> campout would be nice, if we go the outdoor route.

Campout would be very cool. Bring a genny and power up! Maybe we could ask
really nicely and rent out Tall Arrow's bus  :)  Or is there still time to
make a veggie oil bus?

Seriously, though I will look into this. Might be able to do something on
a local Indian res. People up for that?

Still making calls around NYC. Nice to get suggestions but the places
mentioned are a tad small for my tastes. Currently working on Volume and
Frying Pan.

> except for goa, goa sux :P

*sniff* You hurt my feelings.

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Subject: RE: [ne-raves] Net-Party

Campout actually sounds like a really good idea, I haven't been camping in a
long time.

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PS- To answer you question Jasper, yes I'm happy now  :o)


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On Thu, 6 May 2004, t-bone wrote:

> Yes, the entertainment is really the last factor that comes into play,
just
> wanted to go on the record for- Wheee! Terrorcore! :)

Yeah I got carried away for bit. Don't get me wrong, I'm no big Goa,
crunchy, trance hippie. For some reason it's nostalgic I guess. I only
need 15 mintues or so because it quickly wears on me as well.

"Whee! Terrorcore!" I'm sure I've never heard that at a party :)  Kids too
busy being tough, bad and punching each other in the neck. More like
"Terrorcore! Yeah, I'm going to kick your face in!"

> Since ppl will be traveling a lot regardless of where it is located,
perhaps a
> campout would be nice, if we go the outdoor route.

Campout would be very cool. Bring a genny and power up! Maybe we could ask
really nicely and rent out Tall Arrow's bus  :)  Or is there still time to
make a veggie oil bus?

Seriously, though I will look into this. Might be able to do something on
a local Indian res. People up for that?

Still making calls around NYC. Nice to get suggestions but the places
mentioned are a tad small for my tastes. Currently working on Volume and
Frying Pan.

> except for goa, goa sux :P

*sniff* You hurt my feelings.

Supurrr KruNchy, fragaLiStik trancE happi j'

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Subject: [ne-raves] no genre talk yet.

i gotta support lowkey on this.  the first thing we need is a venue and
someone to take singular ownership of this party.

until then genre battling will only sour things.

(side note i also have a 18+ club in philly that is about $800 up front)


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>
>      The fact of the matter is that, so far, we have yet to even decide on
a
> location.  From what I can remember offhand, the following locations have
been
> proposed:
>
> Philadelphia
> Allentown
> NYC
> Albany
>
>      In the following locations, we may have an Albany spot that can hold
> roughly 120 people which may or may not be available for free.  In
> Philadelphia, we possibly have a ballroom which can hold 500[?] people and
is
> available for $1800 up front.  Two choices so far out of 2 large cities.
If
> anyone is serious, effort should be focussed on finding cheap venues in
the
> location you'd prefer.
>      While I'd love to work with the idea of doing a party in the dead
center of
> the northeast that is most convenient to everyone, we need to be pragmatic
and
> weigh in costs as more important.  I say this because net parties have not
> gotten a lot of financial support before they go off.  In all likelihood,
the
> burden of the initial costs is going to fall on a couple peoples'
shoulders.
>      This is what needs to be determined first.  Music can come second.
My
> personal opinion on it is that we should leave music choices to the list
via a
> web-vote.  This can be done for both genre and DJ.
>      In addition, if there is going to be any substantial financial burden
in
> this, I'm opposed to making it a list only event.  This list is not strong
> enough to have a word-of-list promotion party go off which is only open to
list
> members or friends of list members.  In the past, yes, net parties have
been
> occassions for people to meet others face to face on the list.  Now we
have a
> dead ne-raves list.  No offense to anyone but this list is about as dead
as it
> can get especially given the activity it once had.  So, rather than having
a
> net-party for the sake of just meeting people from the list, why not have
one
> where a room could cater to those who would want to meet while also having
a
> room that would cater to an outside crowd and possibly get people
interested in
> ne-raves again?  If we are going to spend money on this event, I see no
reason
> not to take full advantage and try and bring in new blood.  If it's a free
park
> thing or something like that, then I don't really care.
>
> So things that need to be addressed now before anything else:
>
> 1.) Decide what type of party we are doing.  Indoor or outdoor?  Small
> attendance for meet up purposes only or larger attendance to bring in new
> faces?
>
> 2.) Location and venue costs.
>
> When these basic issues are covered, then we can start worrying about
> DJs/performers.
>
> --
> Low-Key/Tocsin [Apocalypse, BMR, Industrial Strength]
>
> "Give it five years, you'll retire your piercings
> You must admit that you mimic the weaklings.
> The trend is dead!" -- Pantera
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---- On Thu,  6 May, Mama Sutra (lowkey@acidgrave.com) wrote:
 
>      The fact of the matter is that, so far, we have yet to even decide on a
> location.  From what I can remember offhand, the following locations have been
> proposed:
> 
> Philadelphia
> Allentown
> NYC
> Albany


People keep mentioning a "central NE location".  I think a more appropriate idea
is a centralised list population location.  If it's Albany, great, but I am
thinking it's more along the lines of philly-nyc.

 
>      While I'd love to work with the idea of doing a party in the dead center
of
> the northeast that is most convenient to everyone, we need to be pragmatic and
> weigh in costs as more important.  I say this because net parties have not
> gotten a lot of financial support before they go off.  In all likelihood, the
> burden of the initial costs is going to fall on a couple peoples' shoulders.


I happen to like the idea of a list sponsored/hosted/produced (choose one)
party.  And I think inviting outside attendees and DJ's is a more financially
sound concept.  As far as incorporating, while I'm not too familiar with the
process and costs, sounds like it could be a potentially smart idea, long term
at least.  If it's not too expensive I'd be very open to assisting, either
financially or other.


>      In addition, if there is going to be any substantial financial burden in
> this, I'm opposed to making it a list only event.  This list is not strong
> enough to have a word-of-list promotion party go off which is only open to
list
> members or friends of list members.  In the past, yes, net parties have been
> occassions for people to meet others face to face on the list.  Now we have a
> dead ne-raves list.  No offense to anyone but this list is about as dead as it
> can get especially given the activity it once had.  So, rather than having a
> net-party for the sake of just meeting people from the list, why not have one
> where a room could cater to those who would want to meet while also having a
> room that would cater to an outside crowd and possibly get people interested
in
> ne-raves again?  If we are going to spend money on this event, I see no reason
> not to take full advantage and try and bring in new blood.  If it's a free
park
> thing or something like that, then I don't really care.


A party that also serves as a quasi-advertising campaign?  Very good idea for
list growth.  NE-Raves for Prez in 2008!!


> So things that need to be addressed now before anything else:
> 
> 1.) Decide what type of party we are doing.  Indoor or outdoor?  Small
> attendance for meet up purposes only or larger attendance to bring in new
> faces?


IMO, the list has plateaued.  The scene is pretty stagnant - I see no real
serious pregression.  Bringing in new faces would be good for both the list and
the NE scene.  I vote an inside party since that presents the best opportunity
for, err, recruitment (sounds militaristic, huh?)

-jw
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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] no genre talk yet.

Chill out man. There is no "genre battle"- we're just fucking around :p  I doubt
that will "sour" things.

PLUR!!!!!!

t-bone
Quoting Gil <gdrive@techsupport.cx>:

> i gotta support lowkey on this.  the first thing we need is a venue and
> someone to take singular ownership of this party.
>
> until then genre battling will only sour things.
>
> (side note i also have a 18+ club in philly that is about $800 up front)
>
>
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Subject: [ne-raves] fun listening

Check out Radio 1's Essential Mix with Rob da Bank and Los Hermanos Cubanos

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/dance/essentialmix/index.shtml?dp_rhn_emix_title

Just click on "Listen Now"

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---- On Thu, 6 May 2004, josh (stamina@ureach.com) wrote:

> Check out Radio 1's Essential Mix with Rob da Bank and Los Hermanos Cubanos
> 
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/dance/essentialmix/index.shtml?dp_rhn_emix_title
> 
> Just click on "Listen Now"


Did I mention that there's an MC Serge track?  Let me rephrase - *THE* MC Serge
track.  "'Cause *YOU!!!* are a blaaaaabermouth"

-jw
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as per jaspers request here is the ne-raves count.. not even 1/4th of what it
was only a few years ago.. the move to ne-rave.org and then off killed most of
it's membership. most of the people on here have been word of mouth. As lowkey
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maybe we should focus less on getting a centralized club venue an more on
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> as per jaspers request here is the ne-raves count.. not even 1/4th of what
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> was only a few years ago.. the move to ne-rave.org and then off killed
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some of us older folks dont feel like posting unless theres something
worth talking about :)

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feel like camping??? 
i can find plenty of places in Maine/NH/VT to do an outdoor :)

--- "Brennan, James PO (ACTNY)" <JBrennan@actny.uscg.mil> wrote:
> Campout actually sounds like a really good idea, I haven't been
> camping in a
> long time.
> 
> JJ Brennan (DJ Incognito)
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> PS- To answer you question Jasper, yes I'm happy now  :o)


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PLUR everyone!

-frizzle

PS- i just got a friendster testimonial from the one
and only Dr Jesus.  It was odd yet true to the heart
and humorous.


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On Thu, 6 May 2004, Frank Scott wrote:

> PLUR everyone!
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> -frizzle
>
> PS- i just got a friendster testimonial from the one
> and only Dr Jesus.  It was odd yet true to the heart
> and humorous.

Wow! Had you stayed in touch or did he just pop out of the wood work? I
thought he swore off computers and tech or something -- along with
abstinence and all that other good stuff.

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> 
> Wow! Had you stayed in touch or did he just pop out
> of the wood work? I
> thought he swore off computers and tech or something
> -- along with
> abstinence and all that other good stuff.

Thats what I thought too.  I saw his profile on
friendster, and figured Id try to add him as a friend.
 Sure nuff he is there and active, and wrote me a
testimonial to boot.

he is out there.


	
		
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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Net-Party

Quoting Jasper Lin <jasper@hyperreal.org>:
> "Whee! Terrorcore!" I'm sure I've never heard that at a party :)  Kids too
> busy being tough, bad and punching each other in the neck. More like
> "Terrorcore! Yeah, I'm going to kick your face in!"

I like to yell "Terrorcore- HUZZAH!", but that's just me......

> Campout would be very cool. Bring a genny and power up! Maybe we could ask
> really nicely and rent out Tall Arrow's bus  :)  Or is there still time to
> make a veggie oil bus?

The veggie oil bus is in San Fran right now, we can get our hands on a genny and
soundsystem, no problems.   It's just a matter of deciding on the land and the
time.  Anyone have a tent that would cover a soundsystem and genny incase the
sky starts crying?  campout would be nice for many reasons (for those who are
not scared of mosquitoes and rain)- least of which is that it would go on for
at least a day, which would be ample time for everyone who wants to spin-that's
time for 24-30 sets, no?  Good morning diversity!
>
> Seriously, though I will look into this. Might be able to do something on
> a local Indian res. People up for that?

Why an Indian reservation? Is there an advantage to doing it there instead of a
park or state land?

> > except for goa, goa sux :P
>
> *sniff* You hurt my feelings.

Here's a tissue.  You can keep it :P

wub you schnookums :)

wub teebone

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On Fri, 7 May 2004, t-bone wrote:

> time.  Anyone have a tent that would cover a soundsystem and genny incase the
> sky starts crying?  campout would be nice for many reasons (for those who are

I'd spring for one of those huge super heavy duty waterproof tarps at
HomeDepot. No biggie. Pretty sure we could bum one off Havoc, Blackkat or
Complacent too.

> at least a day, which would be ample time for everyone who wants to spin-that's
> time for 24-30 sets, no?  Good morning diversity!

Whoa... that's a serious aural assault. Ahhh... nothing like waking to the
smell of terrorcore in the morning.

> > Seriously, though I will look into this. Might be able to do something on
> > a local Indian res. People up for that?
>
> Why an Indian reservation? Is there an advantage to doing it there instead of a
> park or state land?

I've just heard about various parties that were shut down by rangers and
all kinds of other crap, and this is when those events supposedly had
permits. I don't know the law well enough to stand up if they pull some
last minute shit and shut us down for some obscure violation. Not sure but
if we wanted to do it the way we have been discussing with genny and PA
I'm pretty sure we'd have to get extra special permits that we'd most
likely not get approved unless we lie and say Hyperreal is organizing a
yoga retreat. Keep it hardcore... have someone posted on lookout. Then
quick cut to Goa and pass out the chai when we see the rangers.  *haha*
j/k T-bone.

Heard some rumor that I still must confirm that events on Native lands are
free from many of the white man's laws. So that would only mean convincing
the elders to let us thrown down which they might be ok with considering
some of the tribes here are kind of broke, with the exception of the ones
running casions. Used to have an Native connection but he is an alcoholic,
annoying bastard so I'm not eager to look that guy up.

Seems like we're getting split. Indoors or _very_ outdoors. I'm ok either
way. Most inside places will shut out the 21 and under which I'm
not totally against to be frank. Outside would be the most open, diverse
and cheap option I imagine but could turn a lot of people off who aren't
into roughing it. Will do some reseach into half civilized type camping
areas.

Damn NYC venues are so stupid. No wonder they're closing left and
right. They can't be bothered to call people back who are interested in
putting $$$ into their pockets. Dumbasses.

I'll find that dream firehouse in Long Island City someday... and there
will be music, art and naked dancing virgins 24/7.

J'

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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Net-Party

Quoting Jasper Lin <jasper@hyperreal.org>:
> I'd spring for one of those huge super heavy duty waterproof tarps at
> HomeDepot. No biggie. Pretty sure we could bum one off Havoc, Blackkat or
> Complacent too.

Word.

> Whoa... that's a serious aural assault. Ahhh... nothing like waking to the
> smell of terrorcore in the morning.

No better way to wake up than leaves in your face and music blasting in the
brain.

> I'm pretty sure we'd have to get extra special permits that we'd most
> likely not get approved unless we lie and say Hyperreal is organizing a
> yoga retreat. Keep it hardcore... have someone posted on lookout. Then
> quick cut to Goa and pass out the chai when we see the rangers.  *haha*
> j/k T-bone.

LMAO.  No joke- that's exactly what I would suggest doing- put on some nice
soothing sounds and hand them some tea and invite them to join our New Age
retreat.  Could be fun :)  Not like they have uber-exciting jobs or someplace
else to go for a little while. Shame we can't do it in Canada- don't need
permits for a night out on province land, however moving the party to a foreign
country will probably defeat the purpose of "Northeast Raves" party, no?
>
> Heard some rumor that I still must confirm that events on Native lands are
> free from many of the white man's laws. So that would only mean convincing
> the elders to let us thrown down

Not a bad idea at all.  Now I wish I had volunteered at the Native reservations
back when I was in the 'hood. Darn.  Just a matter of finding one where they
would be down and have enough land that we wont' harass anyone.

> Seems like we're getting split. Indoors or _very_ outdoors. I'm ok either
> way. Most inside places will shut out the 21 and under which I'm
> not totally against to be frank. Outside would be the most open, diverse
> and cheap option I imagine but could turn a lot of people off who aren't
> into roughing it. Will do some reseach into half civilized type camping
> areas.

Word.  What do ppl think- would camping be too much of a hassel? (it's OK not to
be a 'rough' kinda person).  Keep in mind, ppl dont' HAVE to spend the night
either- you can come and go as you please. For the record, I can go either way.
I'm always down for the outdoors (better acoustics, more freedom to roam,
cheaper [from a planning standpoint], the joy of pissing myself no matter how
hard I try b/c as a grrl you just can't get your ass far away enough from big
pants unless you take 'em off) etc. but if you are not in "troopin'" mode, it's
not that much fun.  Indoors is good b/c we dont' have to worry about mother
nature and those who are not fond of bug bites.  Half-civilized areas will have
campers and families, so it depends if ppl want to deal with vacationing
parents and kids who have been stuck in the car for 3 weeeks.  Just something
to keep in mind.  However, it woudl make BBQing easier.... So many factors!
>
> I'll find that dream firehouse in Long Island City someday... and there
> will be music, art and naked dancing virgins 24/7.

OMG I totally saw an ad for that same exact spot in the Village Voice last week
too! Race ya!

t-bone


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I think the camping thing sounds great, especially on an Indian reservation.
I totally like the idea of camping out, I went to a think like that in Cali
that was three days long and had the time of my life.

JJ Brennan (DJ Incognito)
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Quoting Jasper Lin <jasper@hyperreal.org>:
> I'd spring for one of those huge super heavy duty waterproof tarps at
> HomeDepot. No biggie. Pretty sure we could bum one off Havoc, Blackkat or
> Complacent too.

Word.

> Whoa... that's a serious aural assault. Ahhh... nothing like waking to the
> smell of terrorcore in the morning.

No better way to wake up than leaves in your face and music blasting in the
brain.

> I'm pretty sure we'd have to get extra special permits that we'd most
> likely not get approved unless we lie and say Hyperreal is organizing a
> yoga retreat. Keep it hardcore... have someone posted on lookout. Then
> quick cut to Goa and pass out the chai when we see the rangers.  *haha*
> j/k T-bone.

LMAO.  No joke- that's exactly what I would suggest doing- put on some nice
soothing sounds and hand them some tea and invite them to join our New Age
retreat.  Could be fun :)  Not like they have uber-exciting jobs or
someplace
else to go for a little while. Shame we can't do it in Canada- don't need
permits for a night out on province land, however moving the party to a
foreign
country will probably defeat the purpose of "Northeast Raves" party, no?
>
> Heard some rumor that I still must confirm that events on Native lands are
> free from many of the white man's laws. So that would only mean convincing
> the elders to let us thrown down

Not a bad idea at all.  Now I wish I had volunteered at the Native
reservations
back when I was in the 'hood. Darn.  Just a matter of finding one where they
would be down and have enough land that we wont' harass anyone.

> Seems like we're getting split. Indoors or _very_ outdoors. I'm ok either
> way. Most inside places will shut out the 21 and under which I'm
> not totally against to be frank. Outside would be the most open, diverse
> and cheap option I imagine but could turn a lot of people off who aren't
> into roughing it. Will do some reseach into half civilized type camping
> areas.

Word.  What do ppl think- would camping be too much of a hassel? (it's OK
not to
be a 'rough' kinda person).  Keep in mind, ppl dont' HAVE to spend the night
either- you can come and go as you please. For the record, I can go either
way.
I'm always down for the outdoors (better acoustics, more freedom to roam,
cheaper [from a planning standpoint], the joy of pissing myself no matter
how
hard I try b/c as a grrl you just can't get your ass far away enough from
big
pants unless you take 'em off) etc. but if you are not in "troopin'" mode,
it's
not that much fun.  Indoors is good b/c we dont' have to worry about mother
nature and those who are not fond of bug bites.  Half-civilized areas will
have
campers and families, so it depends if ppl want to deal with vacationing
parents and kids who have been stuck in the car for 3 weeeks.  Just
something
to keep in mind.  However, it woudl make BBQing easier.... So many factors!
>
> I'll find that dream firehouse in Long Island City someday... and there
> will be music, art and naked dancing virgins 24/7.

OMG I totally saw an ad for that same exact spot in the Village Voice last
week
too! Race ya!

t-bone


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every so often i feel compelled to wonder how much better NE-Raves would be
doing if it was forum based and not email-list.


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> every so often i feel compelled to wonder how much better NE-Raves would be
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nice suggestion.  now how do you suggest that to every single kid between dc
and boston that doesnt want to be in a mail list but is comfortable with
forums?



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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Albany's a good spot!

I think Albany is good too.

BTW... I'm from Maine and i'm living in Colorado right now, but I'll be
moving back to Portland, Maine next september so if the party is after I
return to the east then I'll be there and Albany is definately easier for me
than NYC, Long Island, Philly... etc.

shoe


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On Fri, 7 May 2004 17:03:27 -0400 "Gil" <gdrive@techsupport.cx> writes:
> every so often i feel compelled to wonder how much better NE-Raves 
> would be
> doing if it was forum based and not email-list.

wnysor went that way a few years ago. they've got almost 1800 users...
which appears (to me) to be a huge improvement over the old email list
membership.  

of course, it's still the same sorta madhouse of crackheads and jaded
idiots. but now it happens in something closer to real time. and you can
just ignore whole threads without ever having to download :P 

switching to a forum would have a few more added bonuses. every once in a
while, someone suggests hosting member mixes and stuff. an idea for a
netparty comes up and someone wants to do voting... those things are more
easily integrated with the list discussion when they're all taking place
on the same website. you could restart the ROM and HOM with a minimum of
effort...

i'll admit it: i'm spoiled and i like forums. there's some ease of use
and organizational strengths... plus, if we're talking about getting new
members and kinda moving forward, NER is a dinosaur. let's move into the
21st century and do the forum thing. 

-ryan




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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] upgrade opinion?

i run several forums, and a yahoogroup.  the forums are always a blast.
individual photo galleries, personal journals, calanders, news reports,
syndications.....

way better in my opinion.  we can very easily make ne-raves a fun to visit
site, instead of email that 80% of us delete without reading.


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> On Fri, 7 May 2004 17:03:27 -0400 "Gil" <gdrive@techsupport.cx> writes:
> > every so often i feel compelled to wonder how much better NE-Raves
> > would be
> > doing if it was forum based and not email-list.
>
> wnysor went that way a few years ago. they've got almost 1800 users...
> which appears (to me) to be a huge improvement over the old email list
> membership.
>
> of course, it's still the same sorta madhouse of crackheads and jaded
> idiots. but now it happens in something closer to real time. and you can
> just ignore whole threads without ever having to download :P
>
> switching to a forum would have a few more added bonuses. every once in a
> while, someone suggests hosting member mixes and stuff. an idea for a
> netparty comes up and someone wants to do voting... those things are more
> easily integrated with the list discussion when they're all taking place
> on the same website. you could restart the ROM and HOM with a minimum of
> effort...
>
> i'll admit it: i'm spoiled and i like forums. there's some ease of use
> and organizational strengths... plus, if we're talking about getting new
> members and kinda moving forward, NER is a dinosaur. let's move into the
> 21st century and do the forum thing.
>
> -ryan
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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] upgrade opinion?

There are SO MANY rave forums. So many.  I'm sure the ones who want to be there
are, and if they don't like to get email, they wouldn't be on NE RAVES in the
first place.  It's a nice way to filter ppl- there is less traffic over email
and ppl tend to put more thought into their responses (IMHO).  That aside, if
you want a forum so badly then do it- why can't you have both?  There's plenty
of room in cyberspace for both.  If this turned into forum only, I would not be
there (I say this knowing it will add fuel to the "turn this into a forum'
fire).

t-bone


Quoting Gil <gdrive@techsupport.cx>:

> nice suggestion.  now how do you suggest that to every single kid between dc
> and boston that doesnt want to be in a mail list but is comfortable with
> forums?
>
>
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The reason why I am subbed to NER is because I want to
interact with this specific group of people.  Other
forums dont offer that.

I would be down with a forum, honestly.  Im on
several, and I love the format.  That being said, I
don't dislike the current form of NER.  But a forum
might give some more room for growth.

I can flame in so many different ways on a forum like
phpBB than I can here.

;)
frizzle

--- t-bone <t-bone@acidgrave.com> wrote:
> There are SO MANY rave forums. So many.  I'm sure
> the ones who want to be there
> are, and if they don't like to get email, they
> wouldn't be on NE RAVES in the
> first place.  It's a nice way to filter ppl- there
> is less traffic over email
> and ppl tend to put more thought into their
> responses (IMHO).  That aside, if
> you want a forum so badly then do it- why can't you
> have both?  There's plenty
> of room in cyberspace for both.  If this turned into
> forum only, I would not be
> there (I say this knowing it will add fuel to the
> "turn this into a forum'
> fire).
> 
> t-bone
> 
> 
> Quoting Gil <gdrive@techsupport.cx>:
> 
> > nice suggestion.  now how do you suggest that to
> every single kid between dc
> > and boston that doesnt want to be in a mail list
> but is comfortable with
> > forums?
> >
> >
> >
> 
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Yeah, there's already a lot of forums out there. I (personaly) like these 
email lists because they're a completely different group of people then 
those that post on say, Ravers Only, etc.

Not that i necessarily dislike those types of forums (I moderate on 
fortheravers.com) but I've always liked being on these types of lists with a 
generaly older, more mature crowd.

Plus, a lot of those kids don't even know that hyperreal exists, and will 
therefore consider it a 'threat' to their own message board (as juvinile as 
that is).

i vote keep it email based, if you want to make a forum then make a new 
forum and keep NE-raves mail based.

I'd actualy like it if there was a REAL mail list (like, actual mailmen/us 
postal service stylee) more private.

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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] upgrade opinion?

everybody has very valid points.  it just seems like ne-raves is struggling
unnecessarily hard.  i think its quiet alright if we take the easier path
and use a forum. 166 members for the region of north east america is pretty
low.


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> Yeah, there's already a lot of forums out there. I (personaly) like these
> email lists because they're a completely different group of people then
> those that post on say, Ravers Only, etc.
>
> Not that i necessarily dislike those types of forums (I moderate on
> fortheravers.com) but I've always liked being on these types of lists with
a
> generaly older, more mature crowd.
>
> Plus, a lot of those kids don't even know that hyperreal exists, and will
> therefore consider it a 'threat' to their own message board (as juvinile
as
> that is).
>
> i vote keep it email based, if you want to make a forum then make a new
> forum and keep NE-raves mail based.
>
> I'd actualy like it if there was a REAL mail list (like, actual mailmen/us
> postal service stylee) more private.
>
> -Drew Blair
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--- Gil <gdrive@techsupport.cx> wrote:

> everybody has very valid points.  it just seems like ne-raves is struggling
> unnecessarily hard.  i think its quiet alright if we take the easier path
> and use a forum. 166 members for the region of north east america is pretty
> low.


Bigger isn't always better.. it also can equal a higher noise to quality ratio.



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perhaps if everyone from NE-Raves@yahoogroups comes here, it could help 
things... there's no real need for 2.


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thats a good point

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>
> --- Gil <gdrive@techsupport.cx> wrote:
>
> > everybody has very valid points.  it just seems like ne-raves is
struggling
> > unnecessarily hard.  i think its quiet alright if we take the easier
path
> > and use a forum. 166 members for the region of north east america is
pretty
> > low.
>
>
> Bigger isn't always better.. it also can equal a higher noise to quality
ratio.
>
>
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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] upgrade opinion?

Hold your horses. I've been eagerly following the development and kind of
contributing in teeny tiny ways to the NYPHP group's development of what I
see as a Y! Groups killer, Conversationally Linked Email and other
Writings (CLEW) -- slight exaggeration, because Y! has major advertising
and name advantage. CLEW, currently in alpha, is a MySQL/PHP solution that
seemlessly acts as both a listserve AND forum. No more friggin' ad
attachments and the coolest thing is that the threading is maintained even
if you reply to a thread and change the title. It's some pretty high level
geeking out that's way over my head but the little that I do get sounds
like this will be a pretty huge improvement over any application in this
category.

Hyperreal is using Zope, a pretty well respected web framework and a
couple of the regional site are using a product built on top of Zope
developed by Ed Colmar called Starraves. It's beta in my opinion but is
unfortunantly running live with bugs but there are some really great ideas
such as syndication of any group or crew profiles to other hubs which
enables networking. As far as I know I am the only active developer now as
Ed is busy with other stuff. Anyone familiar with Zope and/or Python want
to help?

So to respond, the ROM functionality is 90% built out but needs some extra
tweaks. It also allows people to add their names to a "will attend" list
which can act as the HOM with little effort. To see sites in action check
out:

NYC Raves
http://nyc.hyperreal.org

SF Raves
http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/sf/calendar2/

Jasper

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Subject: [ne-raves] .: Dirtbox Radio Tonight (5/9) : Winterman, Relapse : Check it! :.


Wassup. Tonight is Dirtbox Radio Show #109. And as always we're bringin
you what you can't get enough of. Well, as far as drums and bass go anyways....

ODJ's busy workin on his next video of insanity, so he's most likely not
gonna be around until late. That leaves Jerel in charge. That's right, I'm
takin over today, and there's nothin y'all can do about it but enjoy the
madness that ensues.

But, enough waffle, on to the lineup.

7-8pm EST - Jerel opens the show up solo style. I'm prepared to tear some
shit up. This may be the last time ODJ will be so foolish as to leave the
show in my hands. Gotta take advantage of it, ya know?

8-9:30pm EST - Winterman - Long-time DC soldier Winterman stops by to
showcase his style of warfare. Tonight he'll be droppin bombs of the DnB
variety, and it'll be sure to cause some damage. Pay attention, or ya
might get hit with some shrapnel.

9:30-11pm EST - Relapse - This man does not fuck around. Never one to
disappoint, he knows how to tear the roof off a club. Tonight, he's gonna
tear the roof off yer house. So ready yer eardrums, collect yer precious
belongings, and prepare to be taken through the middle of a whirlwind of
beats and a thunderstorm of bass. Keep yer hands inside the ride at all times.

11pm-?? EST - Afterhours - If ODJ's slow ass hasn't made it back in time
for Afterhours, he's fired. Jerel will at least hold it down. Maybe some
special guests. Who knows? Just stay tuned, so ya don't miss out on the finale.

Destroyer.net (128k): http://64.246.60.15:8800/listen.pls

Jungletrain.net (64k): http://jungletrain.net/64kbps.pls
Jungletrain.net (24k): http://jungletrain.net/24kbps.pls

Chatroom: http://jungletrain.net/index.php?page=2&subpage=0&color=2
IRC - irc.jungletrain.net #jungletrain

Webcam: http://glue.umd.edu/~odjallen/dirtboxradio/webcam.html

AIM: dirtboxradio

Bangin show tonight! If you miss it, we'll get yer mom to kick yer ass.

Jerel

Partners in Crime, Dirtbox Radio, Trividual Productions

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Columns Of Knowledge presents:=20

PHUNKADELIC

5.29.04


MAIN ROOM: ELECTRIK AVENUE


DJ DAN (www.djdan.com, Kinetic Records, San Fran, CA)

AMERICA'S FAVORITE AMERICAN DJ (BPM Readers Poll 2004)!

Congratulations Dan! Kicking off New Yrs in Sydney Austrailia at a gig for=20
12000 people was just another amazing day in the life for one of America's=20
house/techno/breaks gurus! Beginning as Los Angeles' top techno DJ in the ea=
rly=20
90's, he went on to inspire the breakbeat trend a few short years later with=
 the=20
classic anthem "Loose Caboose." Later DJ DAN reinvented the sound with "Need=
le=20
Damage"--a fusion of all that is hard and funky. He has toured the world=20
over, releasing numerous highly celebrated singles and popular CD's. His las=
t mix=20
cd on Kinetic "Live @ Ruby Skye" is still doing huge numbers. His gig schedu=
le=20
is more like a map to the world. His newest single "That Phone Track", a=20
concept single, is set to destroy dancefloors across the world in 2004 and w=
as=20
created from analogue and digital phone sounds. He also just completed the t=
heme=20
music for Cartoon Network's new episodes of "Transformers" and launched=20
www.djdan.com. Always down to earth in person and not letting his accomplish=
ments=20
turn into egomania, Dan is a pure favorite amongst his fans! Whether its tec=
hno,=20
breaks, all styles of house... he is an industry standard, always solid, and=
=20
always on point! We are honored and excited to have this legend back once=20
again for this special Phunkadelic session! 12:30-2:00AM

MICRO (www.djmicro.com, System Recordings, NY)
With residencies and appearances across the USA and abroad, Micro constantly=
=20
delivers the goods with hand raising sets that encompass a blend of trance,=20
progressive, and even funky techno at times. Every cd released has done 1000=
0+=20
units... he is unquestionably a household name. His last single on System=20
"Penetrate" was an instant global success, one of his best 12" to date in a=20=
long=20
series of back to back hits even from his beginning with the legendary Caffe=
ine=20
Crew of early 90's. From past to present Micro has won his way into hearts o=
f=20
many along the journey and we will always be happy to bring him into our hou=
se=20
for your ears! 11:15-12:30AM

DJ KEOKI (Cleopatra Records =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=80=9C NYC =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=
=80=9C www.djkeoki.com www.fyifirm.com)

SPECIAL ELECTRO-CLASH SET!

Keoki is America's own superstar DJ. Alongside the stalwarts from across the=
=20
sea, Keoki stands tall: A million records sold. Magazine cover boy. Billboar=
d=20
Dance Chart dominator. Sought-after mixmaster for exclusive private soirees.=
=20
Keoki's early famewas earned at his legendary residency at the Disco 2000 ni=
ght=20
at Limelight. In Party Monster, Keoki's infamous time in this icon of club=20
land is documented. Keoki was also one of the 1st djs ever signed to Moonshi=
ne=20
to hallmark their legendary cd and 12" series. In 1998 his "Caterpillar" tra=
ck=20
made #3 on Billboard and even was feat. on the Simpsons! Upon parting ways w=
/=20
Moonshine in 2002, Keoki reinvented his image and musical style with=20
"Keokiclash" on Hypnotic Records. With this huge surge in popularity and cut=
ting edge=20
element that electro-clash has played on the dance music circuit this last y=
ear=20
especially Keoki continues to ride the cutting edge trends of dance by=20
finding his home in this latest craze of dancefloor phenomenon. The party ne=
ver ends=20
w/ superstar DJ KEOKI! 10:00-11:15PM

KNOWLEDGE & JAMES MILLER JUNIOR (Columns of Knowledge Recordings,=20
www.columnsofknowledge.com, CT) present: The All American Allstars!

Whether in the studio or behind da steel, these 2 got it, and after an=20
AMAZING 1st time tag in Miami for WMC, these 2 decided to team up again, thi=
s time,=20
for YOU! With unrelentless positivity, da Master of Techno & da Magician of=20
House GUARANTEE an UNFORGETABLE SET of pure celebration and joy of dance=20
culture. To celebrate James' B-Day, they're bringing in da ALL AMERICAN ALLS=
TARS (a=20
mind blowing DANCE COLLECTIVE, armed 2da Afro Puffs w.confetti cannons, glit=
ter=20
falls, & pure All American Funk!) 9:00-10:00PM

DJ PAULY (www.sympty.com, EMG, NY/PA)
For the last 2 years, DJ Pauly has been the only DJ to tour continually with=
=20
Frankie Bones on a national level. DJ Pauly holds a residency in Hawaii. Wat=
ch=20
for the new cd =C3=82=C2=B3DJs United for America=C3=82=C2=B2 : =C3=82=C2=
=B3The Second Coming=C3=82=C2=B2. There is=20
an unstoppable Force in the scene, and this force is DJ Pauly!!=20
8:00-9:00PM

THE HOLY ROLLERZ aka Ralphie C & TJR (djralphiec.com : L.O.C : djtjr.com :=20
Communique Records UK)
The turntable terminators are back again to inflict damage on the dance=20
floor! Behind the decks, The Holy Rollerz possess the CRAZIEST battle style=20
skratchin with the ILLEST tracks this side of the universe. With over 20 YEA=
RS=20
experience combined, this 4 turntable duo instinctively exudes an amazing am=
ount of=20
energy that ONLY a LIVE performance can capture. So get ready party people,=20
because this night will be blessed by the preachers of Funky SKRATCH house!=20
6:00-7:00PM

DONATO (Headzone Records, www.djdonato.com)
Donato was just recently signed to Headzone records (Germany), with plans fo=
r=20
a fully licensed mix CD to be released later this year. He also will be=20
working on various remixes and original productions in 2005. Be sure to catc=
h his=20
set of pumping energetic techno! 7:00-8:00PM

PAT FONTES (SATELLITE RECORDS BOSTON, TECHNO SLUTS 101)
Gaining massive pespect from the midwest techno scene, Pat is determined to=20
let people witness a proper techno set, bring ear plugs....dont say we didn'=
t=20
warn you !!! file under : LOUD & BANGIN TECHNO 5:00-6:00PM

CHRIS PATTISON (www.nexusartists.com, Flex VT)
Back once again for another round of nu skool break biz this old skool NE=20
favorite will return for a 2nd edition to kick off another sick engagement!=20
Co-owner of Nexus Artist Mgmt and one of the major forces in the VT scene!=20
3:00-4:00PM

PRIME (illusions/Undrgrndlbz/Bassconnection nyc) vs. SOMA=20
(Audiophilerecordings.com/DPIM/UndergroundLabz, NYC)
Side by side pumpin' out the ill UK hard house these guys kick it in high=20
gear early!Also look out for plenty of free cds, shirts and stickers! 4:00-5=
:00PM


_____


UPSTAIRS: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON


"Room decorations by Transverse Network & Plus One"


DJ TEEBEE (Metalheadz / Prototype / Subtitles / Norway)

1st Columns of Knowledge performance!

DJ/producer Teebee spent ten years making his mark on the Norwegian drum 'n'=
=20
bass scene, but it only took one album and a handful of singles on Rugged=20
Vinyl and Moving Shadow to establish him as a major player in the elitist UK=
 drum=20
'n' bass scene. The 2000 release of his debut album, Black Science Labs,=20
showed the world that Teebee could both play by jungle's rules and fuck with=
 them.=20
It was a departure from the UK's traditional pantheon of hip-hop and reggae=20
influence, and it took scenesters by surprise. Fast forward to the present..=
=20
he's become one of the major successes of the UK's forward-thinking Certific=
ate=20
18 label, as well as winning the "Best International Producer" award from=20
Knowledge magazine in 2001. He's had releases on numerous labels, including=20
Prototype, Juice, Creative Source, Moving Shadow, and many more, as well as=20=
releasing=20
several mysteriously haunting R&B-flavored drum 'n' bass bootlegs. A very=20
energetic performer who totally feeds off the crowd and gives back. 12:30-2:=
00AM

T.E.R.A.(Seishi & Dan Brantigan) ww.hoganinternational.com,=20
www.danbrantigan.com, www.maxxhaze.com)
For years now, Seishi has been the predominant crossover DJ in terms of=20
bridging live music with electronica, making his staple organic sounding,=20
intelligent drum'n'bass. Joining forces with trumpet player and producer Dan=
 Brantigan,=20
they create a psychedelic world of sound that transcends what a band & DJ ca=
n=20
do. T.E.R.A. has already done tour dates with LTJ Bukem, DJ Krush, Ming & FS=
,=20
the Disco Biscuits, & the New Deal. A true representation of originality &=20
creativity, you really gotta check these guys out. 9:00-10:00PM

HOWHARD (www.djhowhard.com, Hardmind, Versatile Groove Mgt, RaversOnly // Ne=
w=20
York)
The Pied Piper of Hardcore returns to with his sick blend of Hardcore, Hard=20
Techno, & Jungle and his uncanny ability to call the masses to the floor. ST=
EP=20
INTO THE PIT! 11:30-12:30AM

GIL-T (www.truecrew.com, The Legendary Asylum RIP, MA)
Old skool hip hop and mashup classic ragga and dnb make the flavas that pass=
=20
the Gil-T's day After opening his doors for years for us all the party you=20
must not sleep on the beats that make his mind flow on the daily. Support th=
e man=20
who supported us all! 10:00-10:45PM

FRANKUS (Way Of Life, Bananas Kru, JungleX, Clash Records)=20

SPECIAL DUBPLATE SET!

One Smash Hit on Clash Records overseas and releases the Bananas Label and=20
Footprints, he comes tonight with dubplates and original music, so be prepar=
ed=20
for some amen madness with a touch a hip-hop as this Frankus comes=20
to mash down the place! 10:45-11:30PM

ELIJAH (www.volumeproductions.com, RI)
Playing the nation, playing all styles, all in a days work for one of RI's=20
top rising djs! Progressive, trance, dnb, or breaks, house... almost anythin=
g=20
flows with little effort from these fingers! Witness one of the prime staple=
s of=20
NE work it proper! 6:00-7:00PM

LOXIAS (209 Productions, Essential Elements, NY)
Infamous for his tight techno grooves, party caravans to shows, and us-raves=
=20
postoholicisms be prepared for another great! 8:00-9:00PM

TRACATAK (ADAMRecordings.com/Vitus/THC) vs. MASSACRE (Undrgrnd Lbz,=20
BassConnection, IllusionsPro, NYC)

Special Hardcore Tag-Team

Prepare yourselfs as these long time buddies rupture youre spleens with thei=
r=20
chest pounding hardcore" 7:00-8:00PM

BLIND FAITH aka. ANDROMEDA & MARC PASTOR (EastCoastDnB.com/Inner Sense=20
Recordings/ISM USA)
Inner Sense represents dnb talents of beatown and western massiv... new=20
plates in the crates creates pressa to devastate! 10:00-11:00PM=20

GYLE (Transverse Network/WFCS/WRTC, www.transverse.cjb.net CT)
Performing house, techno, electro, and experimental rhythms through two=20
weekly college radio programs in CT, tonight Gyle will be hittin' hard with=20=
blends=20
of tech-house and tribal minimal. 4:00-5:00PM

HEATHCLIFF (Digital Entrapment, NYC)
This man delivers probably one of the industries hardest trance beats.=20
3:00-4:00PM


VENUE:
THE PALLADIUM
261 MAIN ST WORCESTER, MA
www.thepalladium.net

LOCALE: Worcester, MA

AGE: ALL AGES - 21+ bar for those of age w/ ID

INFOLINE: 203-287-8398
WEB: www.columnsofknowledge.com
EMAIL: chrismcdo@aol.com
AIM: chrismcdo

Wanna promote? Email us=20

TICKEY OUTLETS:

All STRAWBERRIES OUTLETS
CHARGE BY PHONE 800-477-6849
www.tickets.com

CT:
Spiritual Emporium 860-524-9719
www.spiritualemporium.com

NH/ME:=20
BULLMOOSE outlets

MA:
Satellite 617-536-5482
Know Name 617-236-0006
Growroom (Trade Roots) 413-253-4222

RI:
Luna Sea 401-272-5862

NY:
Satellite 212-995-1744

Upstate NY:=20
Metro DJ's 845-624-4400

VT:
Joyrryde 802-863-9166

"DRIVEN" the new mix cd by KNOWLEDGE in stores everywhere music is sold now!=
=20
Can't find it? Email chrismcdo@aol.com

RIP CLUB ASYLUM we'll never forget the memories

COK007 Raoul Zerna "Flamenco Nightlife" EP available now from Columns of=20
Knowledge Recordings feat. Knowledge/James Miller Junior's "Speeker BleeTch"
Knowledge's "Driven" cd available from Tpz Dist 3/23/04 in stores nationwide
contacts:
aim=3Dchrismcdo
ph: (001)-203-287-8398
email:chrismcdo@aol.com
web: www.columnsofknowledge.com
Upcoming performances by Dj Knowledge for anyone interested include:
May 7th Binary Code Hartford, CT
May 14th Mc Klub in Poland www.mcklub.pl
May 15th Club Planeta Poland www.klubplaneta.prv.pl
May 27th Plastic Providence RI
May 29th Phunkadelic:Soul Revival Session 1 feat Dj Dan, Micro, Teebee, Keok=
i
May 30th Fahrenheit NYC @ Hammerstein Ballroom w/ Armand Van Helden, Goldie
June 4th Goob! Buffalo, NY=20
June 5th Revolve Asbury Park, NJ
June 12th Rise Saturdays Schnectady NY
June 18th Monster Tracks Hartford, CT (special electro-clash set)
July 3rd One Nation NYC Hammerstein Ballroom w/ Green Velvet, ODB, many more
July 17th NYC tentative
July 24th Baltimore tba

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Subject: [ne-raves] 05.13 :: EVERYTHING COUNTS :: ALIAS@Nation : DnB+Breaks : OPEN BAR


* Get on the $4 VIP list! -- info at bottom of this email...
* Go to http://www.hfstival.com/   and VOTE FOR THE MUSIC IN THE BUZZ TENT!


ALIAS Thursdays | Drum =8Cn=B9 Bass & Breaks | upstairs lounge Nation-DC
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Thursday, 05.13.04 ::   ALIAS @NATION + Alchemy

EVERYTHING COUNTS =AD The grabbing hands grab all they can

Admission ::=20

* 2 for 1 admission  9 p.m. - 10 p.m.
* $7 (usually) after 10 p.m.
* $4 (always) vip list after 10 p.m.
* Email [alias_agent_johntab@mac.com] to get on the $4 vip list! see bottom
of this email for more details
=20
OPEN BAR ::  9 p.m. - 10 p.m. + $5 pitchers all night!
=20
* 09:00-11:00 RELAPSE [drum=B9n=B9bass]
* 11:00 -12:15  MOODY MOORE + DJ HAAPS [breaks]
* 12:15-01:30  INFLICTZ + ISOBARIC [drum=B9n=B9bass]
* 01:30-02:45 DJ LANTERN [breaks]

Check to see who=B9s going to ALIAS this week:

http://www.buzzlife.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3D35978

Check to see what people said about ALIAS last week:

http://www.buzzlife.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3D35486


Be sure to check out CUBIK@NATION every Friday.

Open Bar:  9 p.m. - 10 p.m.

Upcoming Lineups:

05.14.04:  Infected Mushroom [live p.a.] + DJ Icey [www.ticketmaster.com]
05.21.04:  DJ Micro
05.29.04:  DJ Dan + 1st FOAM party of the summer!
06.04.04:  Planet Of The Drums w/ Dieselboy+Dara+AK1200
06.11.04:  Richie Hawtin + Magda

For full details:  http://www.buzzlife.com


VIP Reduced List:  Email me by 6:30 p.m. each Thursday with an unlimited
list of you and your friends=B9 full names: [alias_agent_johntab@mac.com ]
When you arrive at ALIAS, make sure your name is crossed off the $4 list
after you pay.
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off the full price] the next night. If you sign up for the ALIAS list, but
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night. THIS OFFER IS ONLY GOOD IF YOU ATTEND BOTH ALIAS + CUBIK!
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Subject: [ne-raves] Pat Nice @ Silk City on 5/15/04 in Philly!

Real cuttin' edge techy jumpy house for you this
Saturday at Silk City, courtesy of Mid-West staple Pat
Nice.  Warmin up the wheels is yours truly, Matt
Brownell, Matt Wich, and Chris P.

flyur: 

http://home.comcast.net/~djchrispatrick/hmmaflyer.jpg

Infoz:

This time we welcome midwest house guru PAT NICE. With
over 16 years of experience behind the decks, he has a
carved a niche for himself among some of the dopest
djs in house music today. Pat is also no stranger to
the studio. He's got a slew of releases on labels such
as Amenti, Roam, Market House Meats, and Audio
Wallpaper, as well as tracks ready to drop on Pin-Up
and his hometown's own Deepfix Records. Don't miss
your chance to get down with this Kansas City legend!!


Also featuring djs: 

Matt Wich :: Frank Scott :: Chris Patrick :: Matt
Brownell 

Where: Silk City Lounge - 5th & Spring Garden Sts -
Philly 

When: 10 PM - Saturday May 15, 2004 

cover: $8 - 21+w/id

hope to see yall there, peash.



	
		
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--- Frank Scott <frank_i_s@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Nice.  Warmin up the wheels is yours truly,

So are you going to start being DJ Dr. Frank Scott when you play out? =p





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Subject: [ne-raves] EVERYTHING COUNTS IN LARGE AMOUNTS :: ALIAS@Nation : DnB+Breaks :
	OPEN BAR


* Get on the $4 VIP list! -- info at bottom of this email...
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ALIAS Thursdays | Drum =8Cn=B9 Bass & Breaks | upstairs lounge Nation-DC
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Thursday, 05.13.04 ::   ALIAS @NATION + Alchemy

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* 09:00-11:00 RELAPSE [drum=B9n=B9bass]
* 11:00 -12:15  MOODY MOORE + DJ HAAPS [breaks]
* 12:15-01:30  INFLICTZ + ISOBARIC [drum=B9n=B9bass]
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> So are you going to start being DJ Dr. Frank Scott
> when you play out? =p
> 
> 

I was thinking Doc Scott...  but I heard it was
already taken ;)  

DJ MD(MA) might be good if I get another degree in art
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--- Frank Scott <frank_i_s@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I was thinking Doc Scott...  but I heard it was
> already taken ;)  
> 
> DJ MD(MA) might be good if I get another degree in art
> or something ;)


I like Dr Scott

Then I can Yell:

Dr. Scott., Janet, Dr. Scott, Janet, Brad, Rocky, Janet, Dr. Scott, Janet,
Brad, Rocky, Janet, Dr. Scott, Janet, Brad, Rocky!



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Heheheh word

Im currently being lsited as either Frank Scott or
Frank The Tank on flyers, but I think as soon as the
MD is official in 2 yrs, Ill make it Dr. Scott just
for you skindawg ;)



--- The Ted Nugent of Techno <skinner@hyperreal.org>
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> --- Frank Scott <frank_i_s@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > I was thinking Doc Scott...  but I heard it was
> > already taken ;)  
> > 
> > DJ MD(MA) might be good if I get another degree in
> art
> > or something ;)
> 
> 
> I like Dr Scott
> 
> Then I can Yell:
> 
> Dr. Scott., Janet, Dr. Scott, Janet, Brad, Rocky,
> Janet, Dr. Scott, Janet,
> Brad, Rocky, Janet, Dr. Scott, Janet, Brad, Rocky!
> 
> 
> 
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> http://blackmonolith.com
> 
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> side in a quarrel." -- Robert Frost.
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4131429689

iBook, if one of you were to happen to buy it I might consider throwing in some
of the software that I was going to sell on it's own. Such as maybe a copy of
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Subject: [ne-raves] ETERNAL FLAME -  5/25/2004 Manchester NH

The New England Rave Union Presents


ETERNAL FLAME

May 25th, 2004
@ Bolero
Manchester, NH
7pm-1am
18+ w/ a 21 + bar
$5 Admission




MAIN ROOM:

Dirty Ol' Frank
(Volume, RI/Fused Management, NY) 12-1
Dirty ol Frank is on his way back to Manchester, once again to top
your night off the right way. With his smooth mixing, and energetic
sets, youll just want to move looking at the man. So ladies, raise
your shirts n skirts, cause it's gunna get dirty in here tonight!


Black Electro *techno*
(NERU, Digital Logix, NH) 11-12
Black Electro is the state of mind your in when you sink yourself
into the music. Not only does he drop some sick, hard pounding
techno, but his style is one of the most unique styles seen among
New England techno DJ's. With his energetic sets, and expieremental
turntablism, theres no stopping the feet movement.


Brandon Miles *Drum n Bass*
(Big H Recordings NYC, Digital Mercenaries, ME) 10-11
Recently signed to Big H. Recordings in New York, Brandon's own work
is making a serious stand in New England Drum n Bass. With his hard
pounding release "Big Wheel" gettin ready to hit the shelves, your
going to want to raise your hands and screem till you lose your
voice!


Mike Garrison *house*
(Counterfeit Beats, Basketball Finger Jams, NERU, MA) 9-10
The funk master himself. Giving you your daily dose of funky house n
breaks to put an infinate dent in your shoes! Be ready to move ya
feet, to the beat, because Mr. Garrison is doing to put a new
definition on the word defeate.


HOUSCYON *house*
(Nine2Five, NH) 8-9
Breaking you in for the big night ahead, his name explains it all.
Dedicated to you strict house fans, houscyon brings it to you the
way you like it. Hard and funky. Never underestimte the power of
house, because his twister action is going to raise it off the
foundation!


ERIC P *house*
(Nine2Five, NH) 7-8
Putting some serious groove into the atmosphere, Eric's organic
house is going to put you on another planet. His smooth attitude and
soulful mixing will open your arms, and the next thing you know,
youll be luvin the house.






SIDE ROOM:

Furhab *happy hardcore*
(Boston, MA) 12-1
You asked for it, and now you got it. Furhab's excellent selection
of new skool and old skool happy hardcore. An excellent addition for
a night like this, and nothing better then leaving you in a good
mood. Feel the heat and the beat.


Willow *nu-skool breaks*
(True, Downbeat Prod, Bass.. MA) 11-12
Redefining female artistry in the breaks scene, Willow's ability to
please is rated at 100%, and theres no stopping her tonight! Not
only is she going to drop the only and best breaks in the house, but
she's going to tear up the decks and make em smoke.


Identity *hard-dance*
(NERU, Drive It Like Ya Stole It-Maine, ECP-New Brunswick) 10-11
Getting ready to kick off an amazing summer with her PULSE tour,
Identity has guarenteed an amazing night. Defining hard-dance as her
crazy mix of uk hardhouse, nrg, and hard trance, you will be
satisfied in all aspects of hard music!


Angeldust *uplifting trance*
(Drive It Like Ya Stole It, NERU, ME) 9-10
With feedback off the charts, Angeldust returns to play one of the
most euphoric and moving sets of the night. Quite possibly rated one
of New Englands best female trance DJ's, she will surley prove her
ability to please.


Ben EP *house*
(Nine2Five, NH) 8-9
Rated one of the best Live DJ's in Manchester, he is going to start
you off on the right dancing foot. Not to mention pure house
madness! Make sure your here on time to catch the man in the mix.



DOYLE *house*
(Nine2Five, MH) 7-8
Getting ready to tear some serious shit up, Doyle knows how to put
you right at ease... or please. His sexy style and booty shakin
house is definatly a start for what your going to expierence all
night long baby!



For more details, visit www.newenglandraveunion.com





-Drew Blair
(boo)
aim: djdrewblair

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Subject: [ne-raves] .: Dirtbox Radio 5/16 :. Pat Scientific, Jus-Spin


What's up y'all?

Tonight we've got another rediculously good netcast for ya, with WEAA
superstars Patrick Scientific and Jus-Spin rollin thru as our guests.
Jerel and myself are here as well, to throw down hard like usual.  We got
a buncha new tracks since the last show, so expect some sick shit :)

Oh, and who knows, we might have some additional guests show up for
afterhours as well!

Ze timeslots:

07-08pm EST - ODJ & Jerel
08-09:30pm EST - Patrick Scientific
09:30-11pm EST - Jus-Spin
11-??am EST - Afterhours

TUNE IN:

Destroyer.net (128k): http://64.246.60.15:8800/listen.pls

Jungletrain.net (64k): http://jungletrain.net/64kbps.pls
Jungletrain.net (24k): http://jungletrain.net/24kbps.pls

Chatroom: http://jungletrain.net/index.php?page=2&subpage=0&color=2
IRC - irc.jungletrain.net #jungletrain

Webcam: http://glue.umd.edu/~odjallen/dirtboxradio/webcam.html

AIM: dirtboxradio

werd up.  peep our site for updated info, lineups, photos, and archives
(which, mind you, are down during the show).  Aiight I'll see y'all heads
tonight in the chatroom.  Boh!

Jackson aka ODJ

Partners in Crime, www.DirtboxRadio.com, Trividual Productions, ALIAS

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Should be a good one!  Lots of giveaways all night!
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Wednesday, May 19, 2004

"Insert Title Here"

Come celebrate Round-N-Round & DJ Cypha's birthdays!  
 
VIEW FLYER--> http://www.kindkidz.us/MAY19.jpg

with dj's

ROUND-N-ROUND
INVISIBLE FRIEND
CYPHA
THE GERM
MINDGAME
KIND NICK
NIGHTSHADE

$5 to get in......... email guest@kindkidz.com to be placed on special
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18+

@ METASIN

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Levittown, NY
 
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Subject: [ne-raves] 05.20 :: $TR4NGER$ WITH K4NDY :: ALIAS@Nation : DnB+Breaks : OPEN
	BAR


* Get on the $4 VIP list! -- info at bottom of this email...
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Thursday, 05.20.04 ::   ALIAS @NATION + Alchemy

$tr4nger$ with k4ndy

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* 09:00-11:00   winterman + MC LOS [drum=B9n=B9bass]
* 11:00 - 12:15   tears for jonas aka ransom + artifact [breaks]
* 12:15 -01:30   darkenetiks [drum=B9n=B9bass]
* 01:30-02:45   archon aka sinestro + BAKE [electro+breaks]

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Be sure to check out CUBIK@NATION every Friday.

Open Bar:  9 p.m. - 10 p.m.

Upcoming Lineups:

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Wassup y'all - I got a buncha sets up on the site last week, from 4/25,
5/2, and 5/9.  Here's the links and whatnot.  All sets are DNB/Jungle
unless otherwise stated.

Oh, and remember - sets are not available during the show.  So that means
that if you try and download 'em between 7pm Sunday and sometime AM on
Monday, that shit ain't gonna work ;)

>> 4/25

1. Jerel & ODJ (1:08:44)
http://dirtboxradio.com/DirtboxRadio-20040425-1-Jerel+ODJ.ram
http://dirtboxradio.com/mp3/DirtboxRadio-20040425-1-Jerel+ODJ.mp3

2. Ricky Ricardo (1:54:22)
http://dirtboxradio.com/DirtboxRadio-20040425-2-Ricky_Ricardo.ram
http://dirtboxradio.com/mp3/DirtboxRadio-20040425-2-Ricky_Ricardo.mp3

3. Evancipation, ODJ, & Jerel (2:25:09)
http://dirtboxradio.com/DirtboxRadio-20040425-3-Evancipation+ODJ+Jerel.ram
http://dirtboxradio.com/mp3/DirtboxRadio-20040425-3-Evancipation+ODJ+Jerel.mp3

4. Joey Migraine (51:44)
http://dirtboxradio.com/DirtboxRadio-20040425-4-Joey_Migraine.ram
http://dirtboxradio.com/mp3/DirtboxRadio-20040425-4-Joey_Migraine.mp3

5. Jerel & ODJ (1:41:35)
http://dirtboxradio.com/DirtboxRadio-20040425-5-Jerel+ODJ.ram
http://dirtboxradio.com/mp3/DirtboxRadio-20040425-5-Jerel+ODJ.mp3

>> 5/2 (Return to Beat Street w/ Hypnotik Logik)

photos:
http://dirtboxradio.com/photos/20040502/index.html

1. Jesse Tittsworth (1:17:51) [baltimore club, classic hip hop, more...]
http://dirtboxradio.com/DirtboxRadio-20040502-1-Jesse_Tittsworth.ram
http://dirtboxradio.com/mp3/DirtboxRadio-20040502-1-Jesse_Tittsworth.mp3

2. Sinestro (1:29:18) [crazy old school breaks & electronica, etc...]
http://dirtboxradio.com/DirtboxRadio-20040502-2-Sinestro.ram
http://dirtboxradio.com/mp3/DirtboxRadio-20040502-2-Sinestro.mp3

3. Joe Kopasec & Switchstance (2:14:47) [funky breaks, sweet jams, etc
etc...]
http://dirtboxradio.com/DirtboxRadio-20040502-3-Joe_Kopasek+Switchstance.ram
http://dirtboxradio.com/mp3/DirtboxRadio-20040502-3-Joe_Kopasek+Switchstance.mp3

4. ODJ & Jerel (3:00:18)
http://dirtboxradio.com/DirtboxRadio-20040502-4-ODJ+Jerel.ram
http://dirtboxradio.com/mp3/DirtboxRadio-20040502-4-ODJ+Jerel.mp3

>> 5/9

1. Jerel (1:08:21)
http://dirtboxradio.com/DirtboxRadio-20040509-1-Jerel.ram
http://dirtboxradio.com/mp3/DirtboxRadio-20040509-1-Jerel.mp3

2. Winterman (1:45:32)


Jackson aka ODJ

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Should be a good one!  Lots of giveaways all night!
---------------------------------------------------
Wednesday, May 19, 2004

"Insert Title Here"

Come celebrate Round-N-Round & DJ Cypha's birthdays!  
 
VIEW FLYER--> http://www.kindkidz.us/MAY19.jpg

with dj's

ROUND-N-ROUND
INVISIBLE FRIEND
CYPHA
THE GERM
MINDGAME
KIND NICK
NIGHTSHADE

$5 to get in........OR FREE ON THE GUESTLIST. email guest@kindkidz.com
to be placed on special
FREE FREE FREE guest list.

18+

@ METASIN

2715 Hempstead Tpk
Levittown, NY
 
For directions please go to www.mapquest.com

http://www.kindkidz.com <http://www.kindkidz.com/>   for more info or
call 212-971-1053

Def check this out....nice venue....great sound system....killer dj's! 
KINDKIDZ RECORDS - NYC
www.KINDKIDZ.COM <http://www.kindkidz.com/>   www.KINDRADIO.NET
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i'm kinda sad.  almost none of the pictures turned out
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* Get on the $4 VIP list! -- info at bottom of this email...
* Go to http://www.hfstival.com/   and VOTE FOR THE MUSIC IN THE BUZZ TENT!
* IF YOU ALREADY EMAILED ME YOUR REDUCED LIST, I DID RECEIVE IT AND SENT YO=
U
CONFIRMATION.  IF YOU ARE A DJ TONIGHT PLEASE SEND YOUR LISTS ASAP...


ALIAS Thursdays | Drum =8Cn=B9 Bass & Breaks | upstairs lounge Nation-DC
=20


Thursday, 05.20.04 ::   ALIAS @NATION + Alchemy

$tr4nger$ with k4ndy

Admission ::=20

* 2 for 1 admission  9 p.m. - 10 p.m.
* $7 (usually) after 10 p.m.
* $4 (always) vip list after 10 p.m.
* Email [alias_agent_johntab@mac.com] to get on the $4 vip list! see bottom
of this email for more details
=20
OPEN BAR ::  9 p.m. - 10 p.m. + $5 pitchers all night!
=20
* 09:00-11:00   winterman + MC LOS [drum=B9n=B9bass]
* 11:00 - 12:15   tears for jonas aka ransom + artifact [breaks]
* 12:15 -01:30   darkenetiks [drum=B9n=B9bass]
* 01:30-02:45   archon aka sinestro + BAKE [electro+breaks]

Check to see who=B9s going to ALIAS this week:

http://www.buzzlife.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3D36418

Check to see what people said about ALIAS last week:

http://www.buzzlife.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3D35978


Be sure to check out CUBIK@NATION every Friday.

Open Bar:  9 p.m. - 10 p.m.

Upcoming Lineups:

05.21.04:  DJ Micro
05.29.04:  DJ Dan + 1st FOAM party of the summer!
06.04.04:  Planet Of The Drums w/ Dieselboy+Dara+AK1200
06.11.04:  Richie Hawtin + Magda

For full details:  http://www.buzzlife.com


VIP Reduced List:  Email me by 6:30 p.m. each Thursday with an unlimited
list of you and your friends=B9 full names: [alias_agent_johntab@mac.com ]
When you arrive at ALIAS, make sure your name is crossed off the $4 list
after you pay.
=20
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off the full price] the next night. If you sign up for the ALIAS list, but
don=B9t attend, you will NOT be on the C=FCBIK/BUZZLIFE reduced list the next
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Subject: [ne-raves] Dirtbox Radio - 5/22 - PIC, Shilow, Scandal


Hey hey hey, it's Faaaat....wait, no, it's Sunday. Which means it's time
to tune into Dirtbox Radio. Good show comin at ya today. So tune in, get
yer friends to tune in, and enjoy.

This week we welcome the hosts of Origin Radio, DJs Scandal and Shilow.
Varied styles, slick mixing and continuous good music is what you can
expect to hear from these two. After you check them out today,
check out their weekly show on http://www.scratchnspin.net, Tuesdays from
7-10pm.

Lineup is as follows:

7-8pm EST - ODJ & Jerel
8-9:30pm EST - Shilow
9:30-11pm EST - Scandal
11pm-?? EST - Afterhours

And the other shit you need to know:

Destroyer.net (128k): http://64.246.60.15:8800/listen.pls

Jungletrain.net (64k): http://jungletrain.net/64kbps.pls
Jungletrain.net (24k): http://jungletrain.net/24kbps.pls

Chatroom: http://jungletrain.net/index.php?page=2&subpage=0&color=2
IRC - irc.jungletrain.net #jungletrain

Webcam: http://glue.umd.edu/~odjallen/dirtboxradio/webcam.html

AIM: dirtboxradio

Check it out, hit us up, tell us how much you love us.

Jackson aka ODJ

Partners in Crime, www.DirtboxRadio.com, Trividual Productions, ALIAS

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Subject: [ne-raves] Confusing the Masses pre-flyer... :D

Happy Fun Ball Productions presents:

Confusing The Masses (with fog!!!)

6pm July 3 - 12pm July 4

2 areas of sound, 20+ DJs including John Tab, Jesse
Tittsworth, Bill Deiter, Deinfamous, and more.

On private land near Frederick, MD

Camping Encouraged

Cost: 2 bottles of water

More detailed information to be released shortly.

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Happy Fun Ball Productions wrote:

> Happy Fun Ball Productions presents:
> 
> Confusing The Masses (with fog!!!)
> 
> 6pm July 3 - 12pm July 4
> 
> 2 areas of sound, 20+ DJs including John Tab, Jesse
> Tittsworth, Bill Deiter, Deinfamous, and more.
> 
> On private land near Frederick, MD
> 
> Camping Encouraged
> 
> Cost: 2 bottles of water
> 
> More detailed information to be released shortly.
>  
> Please email us at happyfunballproductions@yahoo.com
> if you are interested in being on our private mailing
> list for this party, or if you want to help out in any
> way :)
> 
> ps - if you are not on our private mailing list for
> this party, you will not get information for it. full
> info will not be posted publicly.

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Columns Of Knowledge presents:=20

PHUNKADELIC

5.29.04


MAIN ROOM: ELECTRIK AVENUE


DJ DAN (www.djdan.com, Kinetic Records, San Fran, CA)

AMERICA'S FAVORITE AMERICAN DJ (BPM Readers Poll 2004)!

Congratulations Dan! Kicking off New Yrs in Sydney Austrailia at a gig for=20
12000 people was just another amazing day in the life for one of America's=20
house/techno/breaks gurus! Beginning as Los Angeles' top techno DJ in the=20
early=20
90's, he went on to inspire the breakbeat trend a few short years later with=
=20
the=20
classic anthem "Loose Caboose." Later DJ DAN reinvented the sound with=20
"Needle=20
Damage"--a fusion of all that is hard and funky. He has toured the world=20
over, releasing numerous highly celebrated singles and popular CD's. His las=
t=20
mix=20
cd on Kinetic "Live @ Ruby Skye" is still doing huge numbers. His gig=20
schedule=20
is more like a map to the world. His newest single "That Phone Track", a=20
concept single, is set to destroy dancefloors across the world in 2004 and=20
was=20
created from analogue and digital phone sounds. He also just completed the=20
theme=20
music for Cartoon Network's new episodes of "Transformers" and launched=20
www.djdan.com. Always down to earth in person and not letting his=20
accomplishments=20
turn into egomania, Dan is a pure favorite amongst his fans! Whether its=20
techno,=20
breaks, all styles of house... he is an industry standard, always solid, and=
=20
always on point! We are honored and excited to have this legend back once=20
again for this special Phunkadelic session! 12:30-2:00AM

MICRO (www.djmicro.com, System Recordings, NY)
With residencies and appearances across the USA and abroad, Micro constantly=
=20
delivers the goods with hand raising sets that encompass a blend of trance,=20
progressive, and even funky techno at times. Every cd released has done=20
10000+=20
units... he is unquestionably a household name. His last single on System=20
"Penetrate" was an instant global success, one of his best 12" to date in a=20
long=20
series of back to back hits even from his beginning with the legendary=20
Caffeine=20
Crew of early 90's. From past to present Micro has won his way into hearts o=
f=20
many along the journey and we will always be happy to bring him into our=20
house=20
for your ears! 11:15-12:30AM

DJ KEOKI (Cleopatra Records =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=80=9C NYC =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=
=80=9C www.djkeoki.com www.fyifirm.com)

SPECIAL ELECTRO-CLASH SET!

Keoki is America's own superstar DJ. Alongside the stalwarts from across the=
=20
sea, Keoki stands tall: A million records sold. Magazine cover boy. Billboar=
d=20
Dance Chart dominator. Sought-after mixmaster for exclusive private soirees.=
=20
Keoki's early famewas earned at his legendary residency at the Disco 2000=20
night=20
at Limelight. In Party Monster, Keoki's infamous time in this icon of club=20
land is documented. Keoki was also one of the 1st djs ever signed to=20
Moonshine=20
to hallmark their legendary cd and 12" series. In 1998 his "Caterpillar"=20
track=20
made #3 on Billboard and even was feat. on the Simpsons! Upon parting ways w=
/=20
Moonshine in 2002, Keoki reinvented his image and musical style with=20
"Keokiclash" on Hypnotic Records. With this huge surge in popularity and=20
cutting edge=20
element that electro-clash has played on the dance music circuit this last=20
year=20
especially Keoki continues to ride the cutting edge trends of dance by=20
finding his home in this latest craze of dancefloor phenomenon. The party=20
never ends=20
w/ superstar DJ KEOKI! 10:00-11:15PM

KNOWLEDGE & JAMES MILLER JUNIOR (Columns of Knowledge Recordings,=20
www.columnsofknowledge.com, CT) present: The All American Allstars!

Whether in the studio or behind da steel, these 2 got it, and after an=20
AMAZING 1st time tag in Miami for WMC, these 2 decided to team up again, thi=
s=20
time,=20
for YOU! With unrelentless positivity, da Master of Techno & da Magician of=20
House GUARANTEE an UNFORGETABLE SET of pure celebration and joy of dance=20
culture. To celebrate James' B-Day, they're bringing in da ALL AMERICAN=20
ALLSTARS (a=20
mind blowing DANCE COLLECTIVE, armed 2da Afro Puffs w.confetti cannons,=20
glitter=20

falls, & pure All American Funk!) 9:00-10:00PM

DJ PAULY (www.sympty.com, EMG, NY/PA)
For the last 2 years, DJ Pauly has been the only DJ to tour continually with=
=20
Frankie Bones on a national level. DJ Pauly holds a residency in Hawaii.=20
Watch=20
for the new cd =C3=82=C2=B3DJs United for America=C3=82=C2=B2 : =C3=82=C2=
=B3The Second Coming=C3=82=C2=B2. There is=20
an unstoppable Force in the scene, and this force is DJ Pauly!!=20
8:00-9:00PM

THE HOLY ROLLERZ aka Ralphie C & TJR (djralphiec.com : L.O.C : djtjr.com :=20
Communique Records UK)
The turntable terminators are back again to inflict damage on the dance=20
floor! Behind the decks, The Holy Rollerz possess the CRAZIEST battle style=20
skratchin with the ILLEST tracks this side of the universe. With over 20=20
YEARS=20
experience combined, this 4 turntable duo instinctively exudes an amazing=20
amount of=20
energy that ONLY a LIVE performance can capture. So get ready party people,=20
because this night will be blessed by the preachers of Funky SKRATCH house!=20
6:00-7:00PM

DONATO (Headzone Records, www.djdonato.com)
Donato was just recently signed to Headzone records (Germany), with plans fo=
r=20
a fully licensed mix CD to be released later this year. He also will be=20
working on various remixes and original productions in 2005. Be sure to catc=
h=20
his=20
set of pumping energetic techno! 7:00-8:00PM

PAT FONTES (SATELLITE RECORDS BOSTON, TECHNO SLUTS 101)
Gaining massive pespect from the midwest techno scene, Pat is determined to=20
let people witness a proper techno set, bring ear plugs....dont say we didn'=
t=20
warn you !!! file under : LOUD & BANGIN TECHNO 5:00-6:00PM

CHRIS PATTISON (www.nexusartists.com, Flex VT)
Back once again for another round of nu skool break biz this old skool NE=20
favorite will return for a 2nd edition to kick off another sick engagement!=20
Co-owner of Nexus Artist Mgmt and one of the major forces in the VT scene!=20
3:00-4:00PM

PRIME (illusions/Undrgrndlbz/Bassconnection nyc) vs. SOMA=20
(Audiophilerecordings.com/DPIM/UndergroundLabz, NYC)
Side by side pumpin' out the ill UK hard house these guys kick it in high=20
gear early!Also look out for plenty of free cds, shirts and stickers!=20
4:00-5:00PM


_____


UPSTAIRS: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON


"Room decorations by Transverse Network & Plus One"


DJ TEEBEE (Metalheadz / Prototype / Subtitles / Norway)

1st Columns of Knowledge performance!

DJ/producer Teebee spent ten years making his mark on the Norwegian drum 'n'=
=20
bass scene, but it only took one album and a handful of singles on Rugged=20
Vinyl and Moving Shadow to establish him as a major player in the elitist UK=
=20
drum=20
'n' bass scene. The 2000 release of his debut album, Black Science Labs,=20
showed the world that Teebee could both play by jungle's rules and fuck with=
=20
them.=20
It was a departure from the UK's traditional pantheon of hip-hop and reggae=20
influence, and it took scenesters by surprise. Fast forward to the present..=
=20
he's become one of the major successes of the UK's forward-thinking=20
Certificate=20
18 label, as well as winning the "Best International Producer" award from=20
Knowledge magazine in 2001. He's had releases on numerous labels, including=20
Prototype, Juice, Creative Source, Moving Shadow, and many more, as well as=20
releasing=20
several mysteriously haunting R&B-flavored drum 'n' bass bootlegs. A very=20
energetic performer who totally feeds off the crowd and gives back.=20
12:30-2:00AM

T.E.R.A.(Seishi & Dan Brantigan) ww.hoganinternational.com,=20
www.danbrantigan.com, www.maxxhaze.com)
For years now, Seishi has been the predominant crossover DJ in terms of=20
bridging live music with electronica, making his staple organic sounding,=20
intelligent drum'n'bass. Joining forces with trumpet player and producer Dan=
=20
Brantigan,=20
they create a psychedelic world of sound that transcends what a band & DJ ca=
n=20
do. T.E.R.A. has already done tour dates with LTJ Bukem, DJ Krush, Ming & FS=
,=20
the Disco Biscuits, & the New Deal. A true representation of originality &=20
creativity, you really gotta check these guys out. 9:00-10:00PM

HOWHARD (www.djhowhard.com, Hardmind, Versatile Groove Mgt, RaversOnly // Ne=
w=20
York)
The Pied Piper of Hardcore returns to with his sick blend of Hardcore, Hard=20
Techno, & Jungle and his uncanny ability to call the masses to the floor.=20
STEP=20
INTO THE PIT! 11:30-12:30AM

GIL-T (www.truecrew.com, The Legendary Asylum RIP, MA)
Old skool hip hop and mashup classic ragga and dnb make the flavas that pass=
=20
the Gil-T's day After opening his doors for years for us all the party you=20
must not sleep on the beats that make his mind flow on the daily. Support th=
e=20
man=20
who supported us all! 10:00-10:45PM

FRANKUS (Way Of Life, Bananas Kru, JungleX, Clash Records)=20

SPECIAL DUBPLATE SET!

One Smash Hit on Clash Records overseas and releases the Bananas Label and=20
Footprints, he comes tonight with dubplates and original music, so be=20
prepared=20
for some amen madness with a touch a hip-hop as this Frankus comes=20
to mash down the place! 10:45-11:30PM

ELIJAH (www.volumeproductions.com, RI)
Playing the nation, playing all styles, all in a days work for one of RI's=20
top rising djs! Progressive, trance, dnb, or breaks, house... almost anythin=
g=20
flows with little effort from these fingers! Witness one of the prime staple=
s=20
of=20
NE work it proper! 6:00-7:00PM

LOXIAS (209 Productions, Essential Elements, NY)
Infamous for his tight techno grooves, party caravans to shows, and us-raves=
=20
postoholicisms be prepared for another great! 8:00-9:00PM

TRACATAK (ADAMRecordings.com/Vitus/THC) vs. MASSACRE (Undrgrnd Lbz,=20
BassConnection, IllusionsPro, NYC)

Special Hardcore Tag-Team

Prepare yourselfs as these long time buddies rupture youre spleens with thei=
r=20
chest pounding hardcore" 7:00-8:00PM

BLIND FAITH aka. ANDROMEDA & MARC PASTOR (EastCoastDnB.com/Inner Sense=20
Recordings/ISM USA)
Inner Sense represents dnb talents of beatown and western massiv... new=20
plates in the crates creates pressa to devastate! 10:00-11:00PM=20

GYLE (Transverse Network/WFCS/WRTC, www.transverse.cjb.net CT)
Performing house, techno, electro, and experimental rhythms through two=20
weekly college radio programs in CT, tonight Gyle will be hittin' hard with=20
blends=20
of tech-house and tribal minimal. 4:00-5:00PM

HEATHCLIFF (Digital Entrapment, NYC)
This man delivers probably one of the industries hardest trance beats.=20
3:00-4:00PM


VENUE:
THE PALLADIUM
261 MAIN ST WORCESTER, MA
www.thepalladium.net

LOCALE: Worcester, MA

AGE: ALL AGES - 21+ bar for those of age w/ ID

INFOLINE: 203-287-8398
WEB: www.columnsofknowledge.com
EMAIL: chrismcdo@aol.com
AIM: chrismcdo

Wanna promote? Email us=20

TICKEY OUTLETS:

All STRAWBERRIES OUTLETS
CHARGE BY PHONE 800-477-6849
www.tickets.com
www.truetix.com=20

CT:
Spiritual Emporium 860-524-9719
www.spiritualemporium.com

NH/ME:=20
BULLMOOSE outlets

MA:
Satellite 617-536-5482
Know Name 617-236-0006
Growroom (Trade Roots) 413-253-4222

RI:
Luna Sea 401-272-5862

NY:
Satellite 212-995-1744

Upstate NY:=20
Metro DJ's 845-624-4400

VT:
Joyrryde 802-863-9166

"DRIVEN" the new mix cd by KNOWLEDGE in stores everywhere music is sold now!=
=20
Can't find it? Email chrismcdo@aol.com

RIP CLUB ASYLUM we'll never forget the memories

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Subject: [ne-raves] 05.27 :: POWER, CORRUPTION & LIES :: ALIAS@Nation : DnB+Breaks :
	OPEN BAR


* Get on the $4 VIP list! -- info at bottom of this email...
* IF YOU ALREADY EMAILED ME YOUR REDUCED LIST, I DID RECEIVE IT.  IF YOU AR=
E
A DJ on this night PLEASE SEND YOUR LISTS ASAP...


ALIAS Thursdays | Drum =8Cn=B9 Bass & Breaks | upstairs lounge Nation-DC
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Thursday, 05.27.04 ::   ALIAS @NATION + Alchemy

POWER, CORRUPTION & LIES

Admission ::=20

* 2 for 1 admission  9 p.m. - 10 p.m.
* $7 (usually) after 10 p.m.
* $4 (always) vip list after 10 p.m.
* Email [alias_agent_johntab@mac.com] to get on the $4 vip list! see bottom
of this email for more details
=20
OPEN BAR ::  9 p.m. - 10 p.m. + $5 pitchers all night!
=20
* 09:00-11:00   jon deke [drum=B9n=B9bass]
* 11:00 - 12:15   the fuzz aka switchstance + adegen [breaks]
* 12:15 -01:30   sebastian [drum=B9n=B9bass]
* 01:30-02:45   dj twist [breaks]

Check to see who=B9s going to ALIAS this week:

http://www.buzzlife.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3D36961

Check to see what people said about ALIAS last week:

http://www.buzzlife.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3D36418


Be sure to check out CUBIK@NATION every Friday.

Open Bar:  9 p.m. - 10 p.m.

Upcoming Lineups:

05.29.04:  DJ Dan + 1st FOAM party of the summer!
06.04.04:  Planet Of The Drums w/ Dieselboy+Dara+AK1200
06.11.04:  Richie Hawtin + Magda
06.18.04:  Sander Kleinenberg + Kazell
06.25.04:  Tiesto + Foam Party
07.02.04:  FIRECRACKER 4:  Danny Howells + Fresh (Bad Company) + DJ SS

For full details:  http://www.buzzlife.com


VIP Reduced List:  Email me by 6:30 p.m. each Thursday with an unlimited
list of you and your friends=B9 full names: [alias_agent_johntab@mac.com ]
When you arrive at ALIAS, make sure your name is crossed off the $4 list
after you pay.
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Af this point, you are automatically on the C=FCBIK/BUZZLIFE reduced list [$5
off the full price] the next night. If you sign up for the ALIAS list, but
don=B9t attend, you will NOT be on the C=FCBIK/BUZZLIFE reduced list the next
night. THIS OFFER IS ONLY GOOD IF YOU ATTEND BOTH ALIAS + CUBIK!
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Subject: [ne-raves] 05.27 :: Thursday @ Dragonfly :: EMC DJs . Funky House . Free Entry

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LUSH PROMOTIONS presents
2econd Level Sessions @ DRAGONFLY every Thursday

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21 & Over . NO COVER (w/RSVP) . Doors 10pm to 2am


Email LUSHPROMO@AOL.COM for FREE ADMISSION all night
-- Please include full name and email address for all guests
-- All requests must be received by 8:00pm on Thursday


For Table Reservations: Call Rohan 202.903.7186


Thursday, MAY 20th
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MIKE HADDAD (EMC, DC : GROOVANAUTS, NYC)

ROYCE HAVEN (EMC, DC : GROOVANAUTS, NYC)



UPCOMING LINE-UP
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06.03 :: RICH WEBB (LUSHPROMO, DC)
            :: GRAMIREZ (EMC, DC)

06.10 :: DAN SAMPSON (GLOW, DC : YOSHITOSHI, DC : RELEASE RECORDS : UK)
                with JEHREAL

06.17 :: ALEX WHALEN (Arrival Industries : R-Factor Recordings : Thump Radio=
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: San Fran)
            :: FRED MASLAKI (GOURMETGROOVES : EMC, DC)


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Dragonfly (2nd Floor):  21 & Over . NO COVER w/RSVP . Doors 10pm to 2am
Dragonfly is Washington DC=E2=80=99s famed restaurant-lounge specializing in=
 sushi,=20
sake, electronic music and cutting-edge design.=20
Deep house with a funky twist . Eclectic mix of people . Intimate setting .=20
Every Thursday
Dragonfly: 1215 18th Street, NW WDC

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Subject: [ne-raves] PHUNKADELIC tomorrow MAY 29th 2004 -the return of the NE massiv 3PM-2AM

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Columns Of Knowledge presents: =20

PHUNKADELIC

5.29.04


MAIN ROOM: ELECTRIK  AVENUE


DJ DAN (www.djdan.com, Kinetic Records, San Fran,  CA)

AMERICA'S FAVORITE AMERICAN DJ (BPM Readers Poll  2004)!

Congratulations Dan! Kicking off New Yrs in Sydney Austrailia at a  gig for=20
12000 people was just another amazing day in the life for one of  America's=20
house/techno/breaks gurus! Beginning as Los Angeles' top techno DJ  in the=20
early=20
90's, he went on to inspire the breakbeat trend a few short  years later wit=
h=20
the=20
classic anthem "Loose Caboose." Later DJ DAN reinvented  the sound with=20
"Needle=20
Damage"--a fusion of all that is hard and funky. He  has toured the world=20
over, releasing numerous highly celebrated singles and  popular CD's. His=20
last mix=20
cd on Kinetic "Live @ Ruby Skye" is still doing  huge numbers. His gig=20
schedule=20
is more like a map to the world. His newest  single "That Phone Track", a=20
concept single, is set to destroy dancefloors  across the world in 2004 and=20
was=20
created from analogue and igital phone  sounds. He also just completed the=20
theme=20
music for Cartoon Network's new  episodes of "Transformers" and launched=20
www.djdan.com. Always down to earth  in person and not letting his=20
accomplishments=20
turn into egomania, Dan is a  pure favorite amongst his fans! Whether its=20
techno,=20
breaks, all styles of  house... he is an industry standard, always solid, an=
d=20
always on point! We  are honored and excited to have this legend back once=20
again for this special  Phunkadelic session! 12:30-2:00AM

MICRO (www.djmicro.com, System  Recordings, NY)
With residencies and appearances across the USA and abroad,  Micro constantl=
y=20
delivers the goods with hand raising sets that encompass a  blend of trance,=
=20
progressive, and even funky techno at times. Every cd  released has done=20
10000+=20
units... he is unquestionably a household name. His  last single on System=20
"Penetrate" was an instant global success, one of his  best 12" to date in a=
=20
long=20
series of back to back hits even from his  beginning with the legenary=20
Caffeine=20
Crew of early 90's. From past to  present Micro has won his way into hearts=20
of=20
many along the journey and we  will always be happy to bring him into our=20
house=20
for your ears!  11:15-12:30AM

DJ KEOKI (Cleopatra Records =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=80=9C NYC =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=
=80=9C www.djkeoki.com  www.fyifirm.com)

SPECIAL ELECTRO-CLASH SET!

Keoki is America's own  superstar DJ. Alongside the stalwarts from across th=
e=20
sea, Keoki stands  tall: A million records sold. Magazine cover boy.=20
Billboard=20
Dance Chart  dominator. Sought-after mixmaster for exclusive private soirees=
.=20
Keoki's  early famewas earned at his legendary residency at the Disco 2000=20
night=20
at  Limelight. In Party Monster, Keoki's infamous time in this icon of club=20
land  is documented. Keoki was also one of the 1st djs ever signed to=20
Moonshine=20
to  hallmark their legendary cd and 12" series. In 1998 his "Caterpillar"=20
track =20
made #3 on Billboard and even was feat. on the Simpsons! Upon parting ways =20
w/=20
Moonshine in 2002, Keoki reinvented his image and musical style ith =20
"Keokiclash" on Hypnotic Records. With this huge surge in popularity and =20
cutting edge=20
element that electro-clash has played on the dance music  circuit this last=20
year=20
especially Keoki continues to ride the cutting edge  trends of dance by=20
finding his home in this latest craze of dancefloor  phenomenon. The party=20
never ends=20
w/ superstar DJ KEOKI!  10:00-11:15PM

KNOWLEDGE & JAMES MILLER JUNIOR (Columns of Knowledge  Recordings,=20
www.columnsofknowledge.com, CT) present: The All American  Allstars!

Whether in the studio or behind da steel, these 2 got it, and  after an=20
AMAZING 1st time tag in Miami for WMC, these 2 decided to team up  again,=20
this time,=20
for YOU! With unrelentless positivity, da Master of Techno  & da Magician of=
=20
House GUARANTEE an UNFORGETABLE SET of pure celebration  and joy of dance=20
culture. To celebrate James' B-Day, they're bringing in da  ALL AMERICAN=20
ALLSTARS (a=20
mind blowing DANCE COLLECTIVE, armed 2da Afro Puffs  w.confetti cannons,=20
glitter=20
falls, & pure All American Fun!)  9:00-10:00PM

DJ PAULY (www.sympty.com, EMG, NY/PA)
For the last 2  years, DJ Pauly has been the only DJ to tour continually wit=
h=20
Frankie Bones  on a national level. DJ Pauly holds a residency in Hawaii.=20
Watch=20
for the new  cd =C3=82=C2=B3DJs United for America=C3=82=C2=B2 : =C3=82=C2=
=B3The Second Coming=C3=82=C2=B2. There is=20
an  unstoppable Force in the scene, and this force is DJ Pauly!! =20
8:00-9:00PM

THE HOLY ROLLERZ aka Ralphie C & TJR (djralphiec.com  : L.O.C : djtjr.com :=20
Communique Records UK)
The turntable terminators  are back again to inflict damage on the dance=20
floor! Behind the decks, The  Holy Rollerz possess the CRAZIEST battle style=
=20
skratchin with the ILLEST  tracks this side of the universe. With over 20=20
YEARS=20
experience combined,  this 4 turntable duo instinctively exudes an amazing=20
amount of=20
energy that  ONLY a LIVE performance can capture. So get ready party people,=
=20
because this  night will be blessed by the preachers of Funky SKRATCH house!=
 =20
6:00-7:00PM

DONATO (Headzone Records, www.djdonato.com)
Donato ws  just recently signed to Headzone records (Germany), with plans fo=
r=20
a fully  licensed mix CD to be released later this year. He also will be=20
working on  various remixes and original productions in 2005. Be sure to=20
catch his=20
set  of pumping energetic techno! 7:00-8:00PM

PAT FONTES (SATELLITE RECORDS  BOSTON, TECHNO SLUTS 101)
Gaining massive pespect from the midwest techno  scene, Pat is determined to=
=20
let people witness a proper techno set, bring  ear plugs....dont say we=20
didn't=20
warn you !!! file under : LOUD & BANGIN  TECHNO 5:00-6:00PM

CHRIS PATTISON (www.nexusartists.com, Flex VT)
Back  once again for another round of nu skool break biz this old skool NE =20
favorite will return for a 2nd edition to kick off another sick engagement!=20=
=20
Co-owner of Nexus Artist Mgmt and one of the major forces in the VT scene! =20
3:00-4:00PM

PRIME (illusions/Undrgrndlbz/Bassconnection nyc) vs. SOMA =20
(Audiophilerecordings.com/DPIM/UndergroundLabz, NYC)
Side by side pumpin'  out the ill UK hard house these guys kick itin high=20
gear early!Also look  out for plenty of free cds, shirts and stickers! =20
4:00-5:00PM


_____


UPSTAIRS: DARK SIDE OF THE  MOON


"Room decorations by Transverse Network & Plus  One"


DJ TEEBEE (Metalheadz / Prototype / Subtitles /  Norway)

1st Columns of Knowledge performance!

DJ/producer Teebee  spent ten years making his mark on the Norwegian drum 'n=
'=20
bass scene, but it  only took one album and a handful of singles on Rugged=20
Vinyl and Moving  Shadow to establish him as a major player in the elitist U=
K=20
drum=20
'n' bass  scene. The 2000 release of his debut album, Black Science Labs,=20
showed the  world that Teebee could both play by jungle's rules and fuck wit=
h=20
them.=20
It  was a departure from the UK's traditional pantheon of hip-hop and reggae=
 =20
influence, and it took scenesters by surprise. Fast forward to the present..=
 =20
he's become one of the major successes of the UK's forward-thinking =20
Certificate=20
18 label, as well as winning the "Best International Producer"  award from=20
Knowledge magazinein 2001. He's had releases on numerous labels,  including=20
Prototype, Juice, Creative Source, Moving Shadow, and many more,  as well as=
=20
releasing=20
several mysteriously haunting R&B-flavored drum 'n'  bass bootlegs. A very=20
energetic performer who totally feeds off the crowd  and gives back.=20
12:30-2:00AM

T.E.R.A.(Seishi & Dan Brantigan)  ww.hoganinternational.com,=20
www.danbrantigan.com, www.maxxhaze.com)
For  years now, Seishi has been the predominant crossover DJ in terms of=20
bridging  live music with electronica, making his staple organic sounding,=20
intelligent  drum'n'bass. Joining forces with trumpet player and producer Da=
n=20
Brantigan, =20
they create a psychedelic world of sound that transcends what a band &  DJ=20
can=20
do. T.E.R.A. has already done tour dates with LTJ Bukem, DJ Krush,  Ming &=20
FS,=20
the Disco Biscuits, & the New Deal. A true representation  of originality &=20
creativity, you really gotta check these guys out.  9:00-10:00PM

HOWHARD (www.djhowhard.com, Hardmind, Versatile Groove Mgt,  RaversOnly// Ne=
w=20
York)
The Pied Piper of Hardcore returns to with his  sick blend of Hardcore, Hard=
=20
Techno, & Jungle and his uncanny ability to  call the masses to the floor.=20
STEP=20
INTO THE PIT! 11:30-12:30AM

GIL-T  (www.truecrew.com, The Legendary Asylum RIP, MA)
Old skool hip hop and mashup  classic ragga and dnb make the flavas that pas=
s=20
the Gil-T's day After  opening his doors for years for us all the party you=20
must not sleep on the  beats that make his mind flow on the daily. Support=20
the man=20
who supported us  all! 10:00-10:45PM

FRANKUS (Way Of Life, Bananas Kru, JungleX, Clash  Records)=20

SPECIAL DUBPLATE SET!

One Smash Hit on Clash Records  overseas and releases the Bananas Label and=20
Footprints, he comes tonight  with dubplates and original music, so be=20
prepared=20
for some amen madness with  a touch a hip-hop as this Frankus comes=20
to mash down the place!  10:45-11:30PM

ELIJAH (www.volumeproductions.com, RI)
Playing the  nation, playing all styles, all in a days work for one of RI's=20
top rising  djs! Prgressive, trance, dnb, or breaks, house... almost anythin=
g=20
flows  with little effort from these fingers! Witness one of the prime=20
staples of =20
NE work it proper! 6:00-7:00PM

LOXIAS (209 Productions, Essential  Elements, NY)
Infamous for his tight techno grooves, party caravans to shows,  and us-rave=
s=20
postoholicisms be prepared for another great!  8:00-9:00PM

TRACATAK (ADAMRecordings.com/Vitus/THC) vs. MASSACRE  (Undrgrnd Lbz,=20
BassConnection, IllusionsPro, NYC)

Special Hardcore  Tag-Team

Prepare yourselfs as these long time buddies rupture youre  spleens with=20
their=20
chest pounding hardcore" 7:00-8:00PM

BLIND FAITH  aka. ANDROMEDA & MARC PASTOR (EastCoastDnB.com/Inner Sense =20
Recordings/ISM USA)
Inner Sense represents dnb talents of beatown and  western massiv... new=20
plates in the crates creates pressa to devastate!  10:00-11:00PM=20

GYLE (Transverse Network/WFCS/WRTC, www.transverse.cjb.net  CT)
Performing house, techno, electro, and experimental rhythms through two =20
weekly college radio programs in T, tonight Gyle will be hittin' hard with =20
blends=20
of tech-house and tribal minimal. 4:00-5:00PM

HEATHCLIFF  (Digital Entrapment, NYC)
This man delivers probably one of the industries  hardest trance beats.=20
3:00-4:00PM


VENUE:
THE PALLADIUM
261  MAIN ST WORCESTER, MA
www.thepalladium.net

LOCALE: Worcester,  MA

AGE: ALL AGES - 21+ bar for those of age w/ ID

INFOLINE:  203-287-8398
WEB: www.columnsofknowledge.com
EMAIL:  chrismcdo@aol.com
AIM: chrismcdo

Wanna promote? Email us =20

TICKEY OUTLETS:

All STRAWBERRIES OUTLETS
CHARGE BY PHONE  800-477-6849
www.tickets.com

CT:
Spiritual Emporium  860-524-9719
www.spiritualemporium.com

NH/ME:=20
BULLMOOSE  outlets

MA:
Satellite 617-536-5482
Know Name  617-236-0006
Growroom (Trade Roots) 413-253-4222

RI:
Luna Sea  401-272-5862

NY:
Satellite 212-995-1744

Upstate NY:=20
Metro  DJ's 845-624-4400

VT:
Joyrryde 802-863-9166

"DRIVEN" the new  mix cd by KNOWLEDGE in stores everywhere music is sold now=
!=20
Can't find it?  Email chrismcdo@aol.com

RIP CLUB ASYLUM we'll ever forget the  memories


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Subject: [ne-raves] Dirtbox Radio - 5/30 - Photosphere, Lycan


Dirtbox Radio issue #112: More goodness comes your way from ze Dirtbox
Radio zis week. Joining us are two talented local DJs, Lycan and
Photosphere.
. Lineup is below, all times EST:

. 07:00-08:00pm - Intro Hour w/ ODJ & Jerel - we rocks socks like sluts
sucks cocks, the thunda fromunda tha tundra.
. 08:00-09:30pm - Photosphere - up next in the ring, Photosphere, in his
first round of Dirtboxing. give 'im a warm welcome. *ding ding ding*
. 09:30-11:00pm - Lycan - this blunted ninja has mastered many technics,
with sharpened and poisoned wax that'll slice yer eardrum.
. 11:00-??:??am - AFTERHOURS - if you make it this far, you're a fuckin
champ. if we make it this far, so are we. no work monday means late night
ruckus, mothafuckus.
. Tune in.  Chat on.  Brock out.

Ze info ya need ta know:

Destroyer.net (128k): http://64.246.60.15:8800/listen.pls

Jungletrain.net (64k): http://jungletrain.net/64kbps.pls
Jungletrain.net (24k): http://jungletrain.net/24kbps.pls

Chatroom: http://jungletrain.net/index.php?page=2&subpage=0&color=2
IRC - irc.jungletrain.net #jungletrain

Webcam: http://glue.umd.edu/~odjallen/dirtboxradio/webcam.html

AIM: dirtboxradio


Jackson aka ODJ

Partners in Crime, www.DirtboxRadio.com, Trividual Productions, ALIAS

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