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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] E documentary (fwd)

On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 Dandraver@aol.com wrote:

> I've a question on what exactly does LSD affect in the brain? Does it
> inhibit seretonin uptake?

Don't forget Erowid the Siamese sister of Hyperreal:
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd.shtml

Jasper

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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Re: [nyc-raves] E documentary (fwd)

Quoting jasper <jasper@hyperreal.org>:

> Do remember getting an email from this person some time ago. Told her she
> was welcomed to post a call for interviewees on the nyc-raves list but
> that most would probably be suspicious of her. Don't know how far she got
> and I'm afraid what kind of conclusions are made based on the people that
> _would_ reply and agree to such an interview. Those I'd most like to see
> represent rave culture stand to lose the most for being publically
> associated with it unfortunantly.

     I gave her an earful when she was soliciting.  She kept assuring a board
that I wason that the coverage would be fair and positive.  I kept asking her
if she was willing to use a contract with any interviewee which would garuntee
that no quotes would be spliced and taken out of context.  She completely
wormed around the issue which led me to be pretty skeptical.  Isn't the whole E
and Raves thing old news anyways?

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You must admit that you mimic the weaklings.
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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] E documentary (fwd)

On Thu, 1 Apr 2004, Mama Sutra wrote:

> Quoting jasper <jasper@hyperreal.org>:
>
> > Do remember getting an email from this person some time ago. Told her she
> > was welcomed to post a call for interviewees on the nyc-raves list but
> > that most would probably be suspicious of her. Don't know how far she got
> > and I'm afraid what kind of conclusions are made based on the people that
> > _would_ reply and agree to such an interview. Those I'd most like to see
> > represent rave culture stand to lose the most for being publically
> > associated with it unfortunantly.
>
>      I gave her an earful when she was soliciting.  She kept assuring a board
> that I wason that the coverage would be fair and positive.  I kept asking her
> if she was willing to use a contract with any interviewee which would garuntee
> that no quotes would be spliced and taken out of context.  She completely
> wormed around the issue which led me to be pretty skeptical.  Isn't the whole E
> and Raves thing old news anyways?
>
> Low-Key/Tocsin [Apocalypse, BMR, Industrial Strength]

The rave/ecstacy thing is fairly old at this point but I think it's been
revived along with all the other evil behavioral issues (e.g. free speech,
religion, sex (homo and otherwise), etc.) that have been stirred up as a
result of the systematic sanitization of America by the ruling party. Just
a heads up to you young girls who may become overwhelmed while listening
to immoral rave music and succumb to the uncontrolable impulse to expose
your right boob, smoke a cigarette, shout fuck and dance simultaneously.

To be fair I think journalists _very_ rarely give guarentees to
interviewees regarding final edit _including_ people very high up like the
President. Though the way things are spun so hard these days and the ratio
of soft to hard news I am very dubious of the media because they seem to
buckle so readily under pressure. I'm guessing this is up to self-policing
and journalistic ethics which sucks because there is no checks and
balances. With the journalistic world rocked by the NY Times and USA Today
fiasco there is some reform with supposed outside and impartial ombudsman.
But who cuts the checks?

Jasper

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Lastnight I saw a commercial for this documentary so my earlier concerns
are alleviated.  The show is in fact real and the email isn't an april
fools joke.

Now onto the contract thing.  Talking to a journalist somewhere about
this very topic of approving material before release it was stated that a
journalist gives up freedom of press by allowing themselves to be
subjugated to what amounts to censorship.

I'm just stating what I was told.  I'm not stating an opinion either way.

KeNNy!

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On Thu, 1 Apr 2004, Mama Sutra wrote:

> Date: Thu,  1 Apr 2004 12:27:28 -0500
> From: Mama Sutra <lowkey@acidgrave.com>
> To: ne-raves@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Re: [nyc-raves] E documentary (fwd)
>
> Quoting jasper <jasper@hyperreal.org>:
>
> > Do remember getting an email from this person some time ago. Told her she
> > was welcomed to post a call for interviewees on the nyc-raves list but
> > that most would probably be suspicious of her. Don't know how far she got
> > and I'm afraid what kind of conclusions are made based on the people that
> > _would_ reply and agree to such an interview. Those I'd most like to see
> > represent rave culture stand to lose the most for being publically
> > associated with it unfortunantly.
>
>      I gave her an earful when she was soliciting.  She kept assuring a board
> that I wason that the coverage would be fair and positive.  I kept asking her
> if she was willing to use a contract with any interviewee which would garuntee
> that no quotes would be spliced and taken out of context.  She completely
> wormed around the issue which led me to be pretty skeptical.  Isn't the whole E
> and Raves thing old news anyways?
>
> --
> Low-Key/Tocsin [Apocalypse, BMR, Industrial Strength]
>
> "Give it five years, you'll retire your piercings
> You must admit that you mimic the weaklings.
> The trend is dead!" -- Pantera
>
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Quoting jasper <jasper@hyperreal.org>:

> To be fair I think journalists _very_ rarely give guarentees to
> interviewees regarding final edit _including_ people very high up like the
> President.

     They don't usually.  I was only asking her to make a point.  If someone is
doing an investigative study, how can they assure anyone it will be positive? 
It was bullshit from the get go.  Even if it is positive, it's a story with an
agenda rather than impartial reporting.  I was also inclined to think that the
splice technique was going to be used given the number of people being
solicited for interviews in that you have a shot of a reporter asking the
question and then show multiple answers in the next cut.  All would be taken
out of context to a certain degree and, thus, be dishonest.  Just shit like
that which left a stale taste in my mouth.  I also gave her a little shit for
not taking the time to educate the masses on important topics such as
international law surrounding an illegal war.  All this shit going on and what
the public needs is another stupid expose on raves and E to get parents nervous
and glued to the set.

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Subject: [ne-raves] Fukkital - April 16th - NYC - Power Noise and Hardcore - LineupChanges - And New Fukkital Zine!

http://fukkital.gabber.org

Shiny new fukkital zine that takes me a long ass time to make so go look
at
it:

http://fukkital.gabber.org/flier003.html

If you are lucky you might get handed a paper copy sometime.

10:30 PM - 4AM

All Ages, 21+ w/ID to drink.

$7 dollars (really is 7 bucks there was some rumor that it wasn't but
someone was mistaken - either door person or person who heard it - sorry
for any inconvenience but it really will be 7 bucks)

Knitting Factory Main Room - directions:
http://www.knittingfactory.com/Directions/kfny_directions.cfm

ANNOUNCEMENTS: I heard the last party with Delta 9, Madame Chao, Insect
Del, Jen Mas, and Fishead rocked! Thanks to EVERYONE who came and all those who
worked hard to make it happen! Unfortunately I was in Ireland so I missed
it. But I had alot of Guiness and someone threw up on my jacket. Anyway,
the next few lineups are looking fucking dope. Adam X! and then Nordcore! Also
we have started to put together a new Fukkital Zine to accompany the
flier! http://fukkital.gabber.org/flier003.html The Zine has alot of crap in
it,
like dj top 10's and haiku and quotes from people like Lenny Dee and DJ
Promo. There are printed versions available if you are lucky enough to
find one or you can ask me and maybe I can get it to you somehow. I guess there
is not much exciting to say, there were really no fights at the last
party, except I heard about one sort of small scrape (tsk tsk). Other than that
I am totally excited about the upcoming lineups and I hope you are too!

---Matt Satronica satronica.gabber.org

If you want to be on our email list - email matt[at]thingstocome.com with
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BOOKINGS: send email to fukkital[at]gabber.org

LINEUPS:
------------------------

FRIDAY April 16th - Powernoise vs. Hardcore Extravaganza:

Bombardier - NYC (Low Res) Hier Klicken for Bombardier Info

Adam X - NYC (Sonic Groove, Things to Come)

DJ Hidden of Outside Agency - Holland (Genosha, BMR, Otaku)
www.djhidden.com

Terrorfakt - NYC (Tinman) www.terrorfakt.com

D.J. Baracus from Manufactura - Seattle (Hive Records) www.hiverecords.com

Tracatak - NJ - (ADAM Recordings, Vitus Productions)
www.adamrecordings.com

and of course resident dj's tense, low-key, and satronica

------------------------

FRIDAY May 18th - Nordcore Attack :

NORDCORE GMBH - THE BUTCHER - HAMBURG GERMANY  www.nordcore.de

Hellz Army LIVE - NYC (Apocalypse Recordings)
www.apocalypse-recordings.com

Jason BK - NYC  www.blackkat.org

NakedSlice - NYC (renegade virus)  www.renegadevirus.org

Migraine - NJ (Thoughtbludgeon) www.thoughtbludgeon.com
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and of course resident dj's tense, low-key, and satronica

Other Artists TBD

------------------------

Take care, watch out for bears.


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Subject: [ne-raves] [squirrels] ABC E Special


Wow, it actually told the truth.  Was pretty positive about e, said there
isn't any evidence of any serious brain damage and debunked the american
studies saying it was highly dangerous.  They had a few quick shots
of some loser looking people saying it was adictive but the phd peeps said
it wasn't addictive and is actually a positive drug.  And they finished by
saying that they just aren't sure of the long term affects for people who take it
regularly for extended periods of time.  But they did have people on who
were quite intelligent and had done lots of pills over 20 years with no
apparent affects.

KeNNy!

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On Fri, 2 Apr 2004, KaNdE KiD KeNNy! wrote:

> Wow, it actually told the truth.  Was pretty positive about e, said there
> isn't any evidence of any serious brain damage and debunked the american
> studies saying it was highly dangerous.

Come now. Let's be fair. There is no "truth" to be told. If anything
the program seemed to say that the "jury is still out". What the German
and British studies seemed to say was that the American government
funded studies were full of crap which the studies themselves have
recently come out and admitted, though one researcher tried to pin blame
on the supplier regarding severe mislabeling which resulted in a
completely different study on speed not ecstacy.

> They had a few quick shots
> of some loser looking people saying it was adictive but the phd peeps said
> it wasn't addictive and is actually a positive drug.

Don't remember much mention of MDMA's additive qualities and that
particular threat. The largest issue seemed to be how much brain damage it
does and how much one has to take in order to do damage. Both sides of the
argument seemed to agree that some percentage of takers may experience
very dangerous side-effects. But some Manhattan study showed that there
was only one death that was clearly attributable to MDMA consumption among
roughly 110 million users. That statistically says it's much safer to take
MDMA than it is to use pretty much any prescription medication.

> And they finished by
> saying that they just aren't sure of the long term affects for people who take it
> regularly for extended periods of time.  But they did have people on who
> were quite intelligent and had done lots of pills over 20 years with no
> apparent affects.

That was the big surprise for me. Nearly the entire program was done with
the first generation users who are now blue hairs. And they all seem quite
with it and sharp. I'm sure they had a hard time getting input from ravers
who would be rightfully very suspicious by now. I totally took offense by
how this dumb 30 year old chick who claimed to be a former raver
summarized raves as 50/50 music and drugs.

I applaud the program for coming to no conclusions about the safety of
MDMA and highlighting the fact that hardcore scientists also have yet to
reach a conclusion regarding safety. What they did conclude is that the US
government's "shock and awe" tactics (particularly Nancy Reagan's) is a
load of crap and will only get you zero cred with the public.

There also seemed to be a pretty strong statement about the fact that MDMA
has certainly become much less safe as a direct result of MDMA being
classified as Schedule I and putting production in the hands of criminal
businessmen and orgo flunkies.

Jasper

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---- On Fri, 2 Apr 2004, jasper (jasper@hyperreal.org) wrote:

> On Fri, 2 Apr 2004, KaNdE KiD KeNNy! wrote:
> 
> > Wow, it actually told the truth.  Was pretty positive about e, said there
> > isn't any evidence of any serious brain damage and debunked the american
> > studies saying it was highly dangerous.
> 
> Come now. Let's be fair. There is no "truth" to be told. 

<snip>

ok.  i missed it.  ::sigh::  did anyone tape/tivo/record it in some way that
they could possibly share with me?  

-jw
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Some peeps on another list were talking about encoding it into a stream.
If they do I'll post the link here.

KeNNy!

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On Fri, 2 Apr 2004, josh wrote:

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> ---- On Fri, 2 Apr 2004, jasper (jasper@hyperreal.org) wrote:
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> > On Fri, 2 Apr 2004, KaNdE KiD KeNNy! wrote:
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> > > Wow, it actually told the truth.  Was pretty positive about e, said there
> > > isn't any evidence of any serious brain damage and debunked the american
> > > studies saying it was highly dangerous.
> >
> > Come now. Let's be fair. There is no "truth" to be told.
>
> <snip>
>
> ok.  i missed it.  ::sigh::  did anyone tape/tivo/record it in some way that
> they could possibly share with me?
>
> -jw
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> ---- On Fri, 2 Apr 2004, jasper (jasper@hyperreal.org) wrote:
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> > On Fri, 2 Apr 2004, KaNdE KiD KeNNy! wrote:
> >
> > > Wow, it actually told the truth.  Was pretty positive about e, said there
> > > isn't any evidence of any serious brain damage and debunked the american
> > > studies saying it was highly dangerous.
> >
> > Come now. Let's be fair. There is no "truth" to be told.
>
> <snip>
>
> ok.  i missed it.  ::sigh::  did anyone tape/tivo/record it in some way that
> they could possibly share with me?
>
> -jw

I have it on VHS (an no way to encode) but someone on the Geriatric Ravers
list is working on throwing up a Xvid or WMV rip shortly.

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Dirtbox Radio issue #103 (04/04/04)

Jerel and I will be joined this week by John Tab and Inflictz, who were
gonna be on in the last two weeks, but couldn't make it - not by their own
faults either (::whistles innocently::).

Anyhow, it's gonna be an ill show.  Peep the timeslots for this Sunday:

07-09 EST - ODJ & Jerel
09-10:30 EST - John Tab
10:30-11 EST - Inflictz
11-?? EST - ODJ & Jerel... maybe more?

LInKS:

128k - http://64.246.60.15:8800/listen.pls
64k - http://jungletrain.net/64kbps.pls
24k - http://jungletrain.net/24kbps.pls
chatr00m - http://jungletrain.net/index.php?page=2&subpage=0&color=2
webcam - http://glue.umd.edu/~odjallen/dirtboxradio/webcam.html

If you're a DJ in the urrea and wanna get on and play, just hit us up.
Hell, if you're a DJ and not from the area, but are up for a field trip...
hit us up.

For more info and shit like that, just point your browser to
www.dirtboxradio.com.  there are archives of all the past shows up there
as well.  Plenty of ch00nage to keep you busy for a while.

BTW - I just found out that we're cleared for netcasting the Dirtbox 2
Year celebration on 4/17... biggup SD Shakedown and the Mekanik Kru...
Essenchal Mekaniks will be takin the Sunday 4/18 slot over for us!  That's
good for you guys, cos we'd probably be all hung over and sloppy that
night ;)  Ok... no proablies about it :)

See you bumbaclot junglists in the chat on Sunday.

Easy,
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Amazing...to sum it up in one word.  The energy was insane...the music was incredible...the people I saw there were OLD friends.
 
Ok....to start with - I got there when it opened...1st ones in the door.  The music was playing and it really brought me back.  It would have been nice to maybe decorate like it used to look, but I know that that's sometimes a pain in the ass.  Odi was playing in the back room from 10-12:30...he was playing the BEST tunes of the night.  I'm glad I got there early to hear the better tunes while there was still room to dance...bc the only bad part of the night was the overcrowding of the place by about 2ish.  I heard Joey Beltram, Altern-8, Acen, Bizarre Inc, 2 bad mice, 4 hero, sonz of a loop da loop...ahhhhhh, it was pure heaven.
 
Next thing you know, they're announcing over the mic that Moby stopped by and was going to spin a surprise set.  Now, I usually hate the guy, I don't like his current music and it's been so long since he spun the good shit that I forgot that he used to be good.  He used to play some dancing tunes back in the caffeine days.  Now, he played perfectly.  Great selection on everyone's part except Soulslinger - don't know what happened to his recs from back then, but he must've sold them or threw them out.  He was playing some recs from 97-98ish.  Also...his records kept skipping.  By then it was getting crowded in there, so I needed to get some breathing space.  Before I knew it, it was soooo crowded, I couldn't even breathe, none-the-less dance.  So, I took this time to mingle...and I saw some old skool heads from WAYYYY back in the day that wouldn't even go to a party now for various reasons.  And that's really why I wanted to go, aside from hearing amazing tunes that bring me back 10
 years.  I saw some people that I thought I would never see again.  And that's why I liked it.
 
Ummm...I got out of there around 6ish - due to my schedule I was way past my bedtime.  And all of Sunday was spent in bed recuperating.  I'm so tired in work today I could just crawl under my desk and pass out - if I thought I could get away with it.  ;)
 
To all those who made it - it was a memorable event.  To all those that didn't shame on you, you missed the best party in about 8 yrs.
 
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> Amazing...to sum it up in one word.  

I second that... INSANE!!!!

> Odi was playing in the back
> room from 10-12:30...he was playing the BEST tunes of the night.  I'm
> glad I got there early to hear the better tunes while there was still
> room to dance...bc the only bad part of the night was the
> overcrowding of the place by about 2ish.  I heard Joey Beltram,
> Altern-8, Acen, Bizarre Inc, 2 bad mice, 4 hero, sonz of a loop da
> loop...ahhhhhh, it was pure heaven.
>  

yep second that too... ODI's backroom and mainroom sets were all the
old breakbeat hardcore classics... he even played some early 91 shit
from Pop Will Eat Itself and Quadraphonia

> Next thing you know, they're announcing over the mic that Moby
> stopped by and was going to spin a surprise set.  Now, I usually hate
> the guy, I don't like his current music and it's been so long since
> he spun the good shit that I forgot that he used to be good.  He used
> to play some dancing tunes back in the caffeine days.  Now, he played
> perfectly.

Moby dropped old Acen,Altern-8,Sonz of Da Loop Da Loop Era, and of
course he dropped his own shit... ended his second to last track by
kicking on the sirens... ran that shit for like a full minute and a
half before dropping into 1000... ahh pure dancefloor chaos... the old
skool kids were going crazy, the new heads were totally lost like "how
the fuck do you dance to this???"

> Great selection on everyone's part except Soulslinger -
> don't know what happened to his recs from back then, but he must've
> sold them or threw them out.  He was playing some recs from 97-98ish.
> Also...his records kept skipping.  

your thinking of the person on before soul slinger with the skippage
the 97-98 era tracks were dropped by Frankie Bones. Soul Slinger was
dropping some old minimal techno/breakbeats

> By then it was getting crowded in there, so I needed to get some 
> breathing space.  Before I knew it, it was soooo crowded, I couldn't
> even breathe, none-the-less dance.  

Scotto said they'd sold 2000 tickets... i'd guess at least half were in
the mainroom by this point heheh. and with half the fans not
functioning the temp in there musta been around 100. soo many hot
lights on... so little airflow ... oh well it happens.

>  
> Ummm...I got out of there around 6ish - due to my schedule I was way
> past my bedtime.  And all of Sunday was spent in bed recuperating. 
> I'm so tired in work today I could just crawl under my desk and pass
> out - if I thought I could get away with it.  ;)

SHAME ON YOU!!!! you missed Dimitri's set... classic house, droppin
shit like Big Fun, Groove Is In The Heart (like duh!), thought i heard
the 92' remix of MFSB's Love Is The Message, but overall it was
kickass... and ODI ended the night playing more of the breakbeat
goodness he started the night in the 2nd room with. (i bailed half way
thru his set.)

to those of you that care i will have my photos online in the next
couple days i'll post the link when their up... 

=====
Fuck Trance... Got Hardcore?

DJ Alkivar,  Lewiston, ME 
[X-treme Productions / NE Hardcore / Maine Kandy Kidz]
http://www.alkivar.com

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Subject: [ne-raves] 04.08 :: BLASPHEMOUS RUMOURS : ALIAS@Nation : DnB+Breaks


* Get on the $4 VIP list TONIGHT! -- info at bottom of this email...


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Hey NE-Raves,

I just finished uploading a new mix to my website, http://jl.halogen.org ,
it's called "Second Wind" it's a mixture of breaks and progresive house.
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Subject: [ne-raves] 4/30 First Annual Cubik Prom - Send in your nominations! 

naturally i'm going to beg and plead you all to
nominate me, because...well..yeah just because :)

http://www.buzzlife.com/mssg_brd/showthread.php?s=&threadid=33399

Spring is right around the corner, and that means
warmer weather, flowers blooming, toes wiggling, and
PROM! Thats right, Buzzlife Productions is proud to
announce our first annual Cubik Prom on April 30,
complete with balloon arches, Polaroid pictures, and 
drumroll please  our first Prom King and Queen! 

Please submit your nominations for Prom King to
king@buzzlife.com and you nominations for Prom Queen
to queen@buzzlife.com with their name in the subject
field. The fields are not gender specific. One
nomination per email address, please.

We will stop taking nominations on Friday, April 16.
The top five nominees in each category will be
announced that weekend, and voting for the king and
queen will run from Sunday, April 18th-Saturday, April
24th.

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http://www.alkivar.com/NASA/nasa.html

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Wow.......I just viewed all of them! whew!  Looked like quite the night, aw 
man, extenuating circumstances were def in place, cause Rob & I would have 
most certainly been there.

Thanks for the pics, and thanks to all those who posted about it post party.

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>http://www.alkivar.com/NASA/nasa.html
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Subject: RE: [ne-raves] NASA REWIND PHOTOS

 I don't suppose anyone recorded the moby set?
I would LOVE to get ahold of this..
I am one of the many people who (whilst appreciating Moby's new stuff)
REALLY miss the old DJ stuff...

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http://www.alkivar.com/NASA/nasa.html

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Chris Bennett <chris@asiserve.net> wrote:
>I don't suppose anyone recorded the moby set?I would LOVE to get ahold of >this..
>I am one of the many people who (whilst appreciating Moby's new stuff)
>REALLY miss the old DJ stuff...

Scotto has all sets ever played at his events on D.A.T. and is planning on releasing them all sometime in the future.  That includes all of his parties from 92-04.  Some collection he has!!

BTW...the pix posted are amazing.  They make Vinyl look like its HUGE!  And Mody is such a damn geek...the glasses & bald head just don not make one attractive  ;P

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Subject: [ne-raves] NASA REWIND PHOTOS

http://www.alkivar.com/NASA/nasa.html

my photos are posted... 

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Subject: RE: [ne-raves] NASA REWIND PHOTOS

Well..that's cool and all..and I can't wait to get ahold of the release..
But man..i just want to hear that in the worst kind of way..
 

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Chris Bennett <chris@asiserve.net> wrote:
>I don't suppose anyone recorded the moby set?I would LOVE to get ahold of
>this..
>I am one of the many people who (whilst appreciating Moby's new stuff) 
>REALLY miss the old DJ stuff...

Scotto has all sets ever played at his events on D.A.T. and is planning on
releasing them all sometime in the future.  That includes all of his parties
from 92-04.  Some collection he has!!

BTW...the pix posted are amazing.  They make Vinyl look like its HUGE!  And
Mody is such a damn geek...the glasses & bald head just don not make one
attractive  ;P

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: [ne-raves] NASA REWIND PHOTOS

http://www.alkivar.com/NASA/nasa.html

my photos are posted... 

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Subject: [ne-raves] 04.08 :: BLASPHEMOUS RUMOURS : ALIAS@Nation : DnB+Breaks


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Thursday, 04.08.04 ::   ALIAS @NATION + Alchemy

HOT OR SQUAT? <> BLASPHEMOUS RUMOURS

* Top two DJ's with the most votes get $50 each.  Come out and support your
local underground.

Admission ::=20

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* 09:00-11:00     Virtue [breaks]
* 11:00-12:15     Sebastian [d=B9n=B9b]
* 12:15-01:30     Tears For Jonas - Ransom + Rockman [breaks]
* 01:30-02:45     Nefarious + Marcio of Telemetrik [d=B9n=B9b]

* check the telemetrik.net v2.0 site re-launch

Check to see who=B9s going to ALIAS this week:

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Be sure to check out CUBIK@NATION every Friday.

Open Bar:  9 p.m. - 10 p.m.

Upcoming Lineups:

04.09.04:  Donald Glaude
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John Tab
04.23.04:  Bad Boy Bill + Steve Smooth
04.30.04:  John B. + Feelgood

For full details:  http://www.buzzlife.com


VIP Reduced List:  Email me by 6:30 p.m. each Thursday with an unlimited
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Subject: [ne-raves] ROAR! Benefit in NYC! **Tonight**

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Thursday, April 8th, AVALON - NYC

EVENT BENEFITING 
ROAR!-The National Dance and Music Rights Alliance
www.roargroup.org     info@roargroup.org
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=>Dedicated to the Protection of Nightlife in America!
=>Fighting for your Right to Party!

ROAR! AT SAMBA AVALON!

20 Live Drummers & Samba Dancers!
Music by DJ Winston & The Manhattan Samba!

REDUCED LIST: Avalon@roargroup.org
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haha - and that's probably how he's planning on making his millions....the people that can't wait to hear all those sets.

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Subject: [ne-raves] dieselboy + icey art :)





for the dsl headz ...


dieselboy's human imprint banner:

http://www.humanimprint.com/banner_HUMAN_cat.gif


dieselboy's "the dungeonmaster's guide" banner:

http://systemrecordings.com/banners/banner_dsl.gif


"the dungeonmaster's guide" postcard:

http://www.systemrecordings.com/dsl_press/dsl_tdgpostcard.jpg


"the dungeonmaster's guide" cover art:

http://www.systemrecordings.com/dsl_press/dsl_tdgcover.jpg



and for icey headz, here's one for "for the love of the beat":

http://systemrecordings.com/banners/banner_iceymix.gif


respectfully,
mary :)




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Subject: [ne-raves] .: 4/11 Dirtbox Radio #104 : Nature, DJ Pick : 4/17 Lineup :.


This week we've got yet another quality show for you, with Nature and DJ
Pick joining us in the studio.  Peep the timeslots and shit ->

7-9pm EST - ODJ & Jerel - Your faithful hosts rock it out Dirtbox Kru
style.  You know how we do, so I need not say any more :)

9-10:30pm EST - Nature - The bad boy of Calvert County makes the hike up
here to throw down some wax.  Nature's been hosting The Battery w/ Mike F
on 88.1 WMUC for a fuckin looong time now, and does a show on
Destroyer.net w/ the one and only Deinfamous.  His mixes are well thought
out and full of energy, equating to pure dancefloor ownage.

10:30-12am EST - DJ Pick - Pick has recently shown up on our radar, when
he opened up for ED Rush & Optical in the main room @ Cubik.  He's got a
wicked crate, and can mix like a champ.  Y'all make sure to give this guy
a warm welcome on Sunday night.

Links:
128k - http://64.246.60.15:8800/listen.pls
64k - http://jungletrain.net/64kbps.pls
24k - http://jungletrain.net/24kbps.pls

webcam - http://glue.umd.edu/~odjallen/dirtboxradio/webcam.html

chatroom - http://jungletrain.net/index.php?page=2
AIM - dirtboxradio

I've got the setlist for the dirtbox 2 year (4/17) all lined up.  We'll be
doing a special edition Saturday broadcast for that next week, starting at
six in the evening and ending up at some obscene hour in the morning.
There will also be some DJs dropping house, hip-hop, and other such
goodness in another room in the house, not streamed, but the recordings
will go up on the site along with the dnb.  Anyways, here 'tis:

06:00 - don vega vs just charlie
07:30 - brian arse
09:00 - bizar
10:00 - odj vs jerel
11:00 - akasha vs evancipation
12:00 - hooligan vs shade
01:00 - ransom
02:00 - stamina
03:00 - psykofly

Biggups to the SD Shakedown and Essenchal Mekaniks crews for lettin us
snag their timeslots on Saturday.  The Mekaniks will be takin over our
Sunday slot, so make sure to tune in for them and support :)

That's about it.. I'm off to bed and will see all of you tomorrow in the
chat or on AIM.  Biggup to the VW joyride crew from today... Joe, Evan,
Brian, Ron, and Tim.  That shit was a lotta fun!

Ez

Jackson aka ODJ

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Subject: [ne-raves] 04.15 :: ACTS OF CONTRITION : ALIAS@Nation : DnB+Breaks : OPEN BAR


* Get on the $4 VIP list TONIGHT! -- info at bottom of this email...


ALIAS Thursdays | Drum =8Cn=B9 Bass & Breaks | upstairs lounge NationDC
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Thursday, 04.15.04 ::   ALIAS @NATION + Alchemy

HOT OR SQUAT? <> ACTS OF CONTRITION

* Top two DJ's with the most votes get $50 each.  Come out and support your
local underground.

Admission ::=20

* 2 for 1 admission  9 p.m. - 10 p.m.
* $7 (usually) after 10 p.m.
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* 09:00-11:00     Esfand [d=B9n=B9b]
* 11:00-12:15     Wickity [breaks]
* 12:15-01:30     Psykofly [d=B9n=B9b]
* 01:30-02:45     Bioteknik [breaks]


Check to see who=B9s going to ALIAS this week:

http://www.buzzlife.com/mssg_brd/showthread.php?s=3D&threadid=3D33925

Check to see what people said about ALIAS last week:

http://www.buzzlife.com/mssg_brd/showthread.php?s=3D&threadid=3D33636



Be sure to check out CUBIK@NATION every Friday.

Open Bar:  9 p.m. - 10 p.m.

Upcoming Lineups:

04.16.04:  East Coast Science Old Skool Party: Dieselboy v. Scott Henry, DB=
,
John Tab
04.23.04:  Bad Boy Bill + Steve Smooth
04.30.04:  John B. + Feelgood
05.07.04:  Adam Freeland + Rennie Pilgrem [breaks takeover]
05.14.04:  Infected Mushroom [live p.a.] + DJ Icey [www.ticketmaster.com]

For full details:  http://www.buzzlife.com


VIP Reduced List:  Email me by 6:30 p.m. each Thursday with an unlimited
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after you pay.
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off the full price] the next night. If you sign up for the ALIAS list, but
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Subject: [ne-raves] 04.18: The Spunk Boys pres. STRANGELOVE Sundays


Every Sunday Night the Spunk Boys invite you to join them in STRANGELOVE...=
.

The Spunk Boy DJs ::
JTFLASSH (aka John Tab)
SPIGGY

Featuring a lovesick blend of electro, modern and 80s synth-pop, classic
acid house, retro-techno, disco-punk.... at Cocoa, a newly-minted lounge in
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* Sunday nights =8B 9 p.m. - 1 a.m.
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Subject: [ne-raves] skinny puppy in chicago (fwd)

- (fwd) -
hey there,

not sure if there are any skinny puppy fans out there but they are playing
a show at Vic Theater in Chicago on June 16 Tickets are on
Ticketmaster.com in case anyone is interested.  All general admission, $25
each

Peace,

Nina K / Sindell357
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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] skinny puppy in chicago (fwd)

which members of Skinny Puppy and in what capacity are they playing?  Is this
Ogre and Kevin Cye or something else?  Inquiring minds and all....

t-bone
Quoting jasper <jasper@hyperreal.org>:

> - (fwd) -
> hey there,
> 
> not sure if there are any skinny puppy fans out there but they are playing
> a show at Vic Theater in Chicago on June 16 Tickets are on
> Ticketmaster.com in case anyone is interested.  All general admission, $25
> each
> 
> Peace,
> 
> Nina K / Sindell357
> Realtime Syndicate
> http://www.realtimesyndicate.com
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> http://www.feedbackmagazine.com
> Deep Groove Productions
> http://www.dgprod.com Rinse Magazine http://www.rinsemag.com
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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] skinny puppy in chicago (fwd)

To bad they aren't playing around here, i'd go! Skinny Puppy rules


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http://www.deadlyproductionsrecords.com
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> which members of Skinny Puppy and in what capacity are they playing?  Is
this
> Ogre and Kevin Cye or something else?  Inquiring minds and all....
>
> t-bone
> Quoting jasper <jasper@hyperreal.org>:
>
> > - (fwd) -
> > hey there,
> >
> > not sure if there are any skinny puppy fans out there but they are
playing
> > a show at Vic Theater in Chicago on June 16 Tickets are on
> > Ticketmaster.com in case anyone is interested.  All general admission,
$25
> > each
> >
> > Peace,
> >
> > Nina K / Sindell357
> > Realtime Syndicate
> > http://www.realtimesyndicate.com
> > Feedback Magazine
> > http://www.feedbackmagazine.com
> > Deep Groove Productions
> > http://www.dgprod.com Rinse Magazine http://www.rinsemag.com
> >
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From ne-raves-return-982-ne-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 21:11:39 2004
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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] skinny puppy in chicago (fwd)

While Skinny Puppy indeed rules the playground, it is not the same since david
died in '95.  Lowkey and I saw them about 2 or 3 years ago in Jersey- I was
*so* excite to go having been a fan since I was a wee pup, and *really* wanted
to like it ever so much. And it kinda sucked.  The opening band was horrendous-
they started yelling at the crowd calling us rednecks, buncha LA pansies (as in
wusses, not homosexual) they were. They were mad at us for not liking them or
clapping enough but they really sucked. Then the lead singer in a stage move
that was pretty dumb yelled at us to "suck his little white dick" as he wagged
his pinky in the air. well, that was it, I walked up to the stage and started
yelling "Damned right you got a tiny little dick now get the fuck off the stage
you suck motherfucker I show you redneck you piece of shit!" (I paraphrase-
ended up yelling at them through the rest of their set and then some, plus it
was some time ago) While heckling usually leads to fun, for some reason they
kept playing even though the entire crowd was booing them. And they sucked,
musically.

Then it was time for SP. It was Ogre and Kevin I believe, and a few road
musicians. It was the same sound for every song all night and i really wanted
to like it but there was no energy, no SP songs, nothing that spoke to me.
Aside from wearing a mask, there was not much of an actual show.  Anyone who
has seen footage of a SP show will have a certain expectation of entertainment,
and we'll leave it at that.  That's why I was asking- if it was the surviving
members actually playing as SP that is one thing.  I learned the lesson that if
you go to a show that is part of the "X (unknown factor) Band is dead" they
just might mean it ;)

t-bone

p.s.- give us a review when you get back from the west coast ScreamerClauz!

Quoting ScreamerClauz <screamerclauz@deadlyproductionsrecords.com>:

> To bad they aren't playing around here, i'd go! Skinny Puppy rules
> 
> 
> check out:
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On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 t-bone@acidgrave.com wrote:

> While Skinny Puppy indeed rules the playground, it is not the same since david
> died in '95.  Lowkey and I saw them about 2 or 3 years ago in Jersey- I was

Do you mean Dwayne Goettle?

I'm so out of the rivethead culture -- any culture for that matter. Has
the music changed much? Last I heard a couple years ago all the stuff
being played at goth/industrial was cheesy trance with horrendous lyrics.
Jeeze I long for the days of New Beat and early electro when foreign bands
like 242 and were coming up with truely interesting lyrics and not just
counting in German. I knew things were dead when NJ industrial bands
thought it was cool that they could count to four auf Deutsch. *sigh*

On the upside that NASA Reunion party _kicked butt_ and definitely renewed
things for me for the moment.

Need to start hanging out with you guys (T in particular) so you can say
the things I can't for fear of getting my ass kicked by guys I think are
stupid. Actually as long as I can out run em...

Jasper

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Quoting jasper <jasper@hyperreal.org>:
> Do you mean Dwayne Goettle?

Yessir! David Olgvie has done work since '95- damned names that start with "D"!
> 
> I'm so out of the rivethead culture -- any culture for that matter. 

Ditto. Until i got skewled in what a 'rivethead' was, didn't realize i could
have been classified as such at some point. Meh- that's how  much that crap
matters to teebs.

> Last I heard a couple years ago all the stuff being played at goth/industrial
was cheesy trance with horrendous lyrics.

LOL. That pretty much sums it up! Now you see why I was so *angry*.  The music
that once opened my ears to the constant melodies and songs being sung
everywhere by the most twisted Earth warping by humanoid hands that we know of,
that's what was sought.  RIding thd subway, tattoo guns, the click of the
traffic lights when they change, carts going over speedbumps, the bells when
you drive into the gas station- the cacophany of the industrialized world
became more familiar and an acceptable part of this existance struggling to
balance between misguided actions dealing with the past and the present.  So I
get dressed, schlep out to East Butttfuk to get back in touch with said sound
roots, and am met with cheesey trance with horrendous lyrics by guys from LA
coppin more addy, even though the mo fo is skinnier than Lowkey and half MY
height. *shakes head in sadness*

> I knew things were dead when NJ industrial bands
> thought it was cool that they could count to four auf Deutsch. *sigh*

Da.  Das nein gut!
> 
> On the upside that NASA Reunion party _kicked butt_ and definitely renewed
> things for me for the moment.

Word.  How so?  
> 
> Actually as long as I can out run em...

Brother, please. We do the same thing- run like the cops is after you.  You got
long legs- it'll be fiiiiiiiiine ;)  Yeah, it's time for summer parties though-
weather's gonna dry up soon, it'll be nice.

t-bone

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Subject: [ne-raves] tonight! :: ACTS OF CONTRITION : ALIAS@Nation : DnB+Breaks : OPEN
	BAR


* Get on the $4 VIP list TONIGHT! -- info at bottom of this email...


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Subject: [ne-raves] Fukkital tomorrow - hardcore/powernoise/good lineup/very
	interesting/you possibly will die of excitement


I have been too busy to change the flier or anything but basically fukkital
is tomorrow, it is only 6 bucks again cuz they smacked our bitch asses back
down to the tiny room. Well, that=B9s just because the big room wasn't
available :)  So I will once again be dragging all my shit to the knitting
factory and you should come! Well anyway - here is the lineup:

FRIDAY April 16th - Powernoise vs. Hardcore Extravaganza:
CLICK HERE TO SEE FLIER/ZINE.

Bombardier - NYC (Low Res)

Adam X - NYC (Sonic Groove, Things to Come)

 DJ Hidden of Outside Agency - Holland (Genosha, BMR, Otaku)
www.djhidden.com=20

Terrorfakt - NYC (Tinman) www.terrorfakt.com

D.J. Baracus from Manufactura - Seattle (Hive Records) www.hiverecords.com

Tracatak - NJ - (ADAM Recordings, Vitus Productions) www.adamrecordings.com

and of course resident dj's tense, low-key, and satronica

Other Artists TBD



HERE IS MORE INFO: http://fukkital.gabber.org


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Subject: [ne-raves] Apple Users

How many of you out there are apple music producers like myself? I am curious
because I was talking with Adam Jay, who is a techno producer about starting a
new list. Yes there are tons of production lists related to applications or to
apple, but as far as I know non that are dedicated to just techno production
across the electronic genres that we like.

Wondering it would even be worth the effort to make such a list. Not all lists,
but this one tends to discuss on a regular basis production and new hardware.
Granted a lot has to do with my postings, since I am up on the technology
though my reviews and writing, and just my out right being a computer engineer
and geek. So if you can will the apple users give me a roll call.

x-posted to my various lists.


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Macs suck!  Just kidding...I was just trying to get one for here at work
but was unsuccessful.  From what I hear on ohter lists there would be some
interest.  Would you mind if I posted this to other lists where I know
there are producers?

KeNNy!

aim: munkeybuttt
yahoo: jungleboogiemonster
http://ghetto.hjsoft.com
<Insert humorous and witty quote here>

On Thu, 15 Apr 2004, The Ted Nugent of Techno wrote:

> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 13:24:26 -0700 (PDT)
> From: The Ted Nugent of Techno <skinner@hyperreal.org>
> To: ne-raves@hyperreal.org
> Subject: [ne-raves] Apple Users
>
> How many of you out there are apple music producers like myself? I am curious
> because I was talking with Adam Jay, who is a techno producer about starting a
> new list. Yes there are tons of production lists related to applications or to
> apple, but as far as I know non that are dedicated to just techno production
> across the electronic genres that we like.
>
> Wondering it would even be worth the effort to make such a list. Not all lists,
> but this one tends to discuss on a regular basis production and new hardware.
> Granted a lot has to do with my postings, since I am up on the technology
> though my reviews and writing, and just my out right being a computer engineer
> and geek. So if you can will the apple users give me a roll call.
>
> x-posted to my various lists.
>
>
> =====
> Skinner
> http://blackmonolith.com
>
> "You know why there's a Second Amendment? In case the government fails to follow the first one." -- Rush Limbaugh
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--- KaNdE KiD KeNNy! <kenny@orwell.lost-angel.com> wrote:
> 
> Macs suck!  Just kidding...I was just trying to get one for here at work
> but was unsuccessful.  From what I hear on ohter lists there would be some
> interest.  Would you mind if I posted this to other lists where I know
> there are producers?

Yea I would like to find out more peoples intrest in such a list. The world
dosen't need any more lists, but all the ones I have ran from both hyperreal
and other places, usualy work out good.


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Subject: [ne-raves] .: THE DIRTBOX 2 YEAR : SATURDAY 4/17 : 13+ DJs :.


That's right, we've finally reached two fuckin years of doin the show.
We're celebrating this by rockin out hardcore, special Saturday edition
style.  Peep the lineup (all times EST):

. 06:00pm - Don Vega & Just Charlie
. 07:30pm - Brian Arse
. 09:00pm - Bizar
. 10:00pm - ODJ & Jerel
. 11:00pm - Robot Death Squad (Akasha & Evancipation)
. 12:00am - Hooligan & Shade
. 01:00am - Ransom
. 02:00am - Stamina
. 03:00am - Psykofly
. 04:00am - Afterhours??

We may end up goin mad late, but that'll depend on how crunked we all are
at the end of the night.

Tim Defekt will be out with his vid camera gettin shots of the action, as
well as peeps with cameras, so expect some neat shit up on the site
afterwards, as well as sets from Picklejuice, Stretch, and Dave Nada,
who'll be playing upstairs.

To tune in, simply go to http://dirtboxradio.com/listen.html, or click on
ze linx below:

destroyer.net
128k - http://64.246.60.15:8800/listen.pls

jungletrain.net
64k - http://jungletrain.net/64kbps.pls
24k - http://jungletrain.net/24kbps.pls

webcam - http://glue.umd.edu/~odjallen/dirtboxradio/webcam.html

chat - http://jungletrain.net/index.php?page=2&subpage=0&color=2

AIM - DIRTBOXRADIO

It's gonna be a goddamn blast, so y'all should definitely tune in.
Filling in for our slot on JT will be the Essenchal Mekaniks from GA,
biggup to them and SD Shakedown crew for lettin us gank their timeslots on
Saturday.

BOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

Jackson aka ODJ

Partners in Crime, www.DirtboxRadio.com, Trividual Productions, ALIAS

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oh, and i'm a big dumbass...  i forgot to include Ricky Ricardo playin some
nappy garage upstairs :)
----- Original Message ----- 
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Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 5:57 PM
Subject: [EastCoastRaveScene] .: THE DIRTBOX 2 YEAR : SATURDAY 4/17 : 13+
DJs :.


>
> That's right, we've finally reached two fuckin years of doin the show.
> We're celebrating this by rockin out hardcore, special Saturday edition
> style.  Peep the lineup (all times EST):
>
> . 06:00pm - Don Vega & Just Charlie
> . 07:30pm - Brian Arse
> . 09:00pm - Bizar
> . 10:00pm - ODJ & Jerel
> . 11:00pm - Robot Death Squad (Akasha & Evancipation)
> . 12:00am - Hooligan & Shade
> . 01:00am - Ransom
> . 02:00am - Stamina
> . 03:00am - Psykofly
> . 04:00am - Afterhours??
>
> We may end up goin mad late, but that'll depend on how crunked we all are
> at the end of the night.
>
> Tim Defekt will be out with his vid camera gettin shots of the action, as
> well as peeps with cameras, so expect some neat shit up on the site
> afterwards, as well as sets from Picklejuice, Stretch, and Dave Nada,
> who'll be playing upstairs.
>
> To tune in, simply go to http://dirtboxradio.com/listen.html, or click on
> ze linx below:
>
> destroyer.net
> 128k - http://64.246.60.15:8800/listen.pls
>
> jungletrain.net
> 64k - http://jungletrain.net/64kbps.pls
> 24k - http://jungletrain.net/24kbps.pls
>
> webcam - http://glue.umd.edu/~odjallen/dirtboxradio/webcam.html
>
> chat - http://jungletrain.net/index.php?page=2&subpage=0&color=2
>
> AIM - DIRTBOXRADIO
>
> It's gonna be a goddamn blast, so y'all should definitely tune in.
> Filling in for our slot on JT will be the Essenchal Mekaniks from GA,
> biggup to them and SD Shakedown crew for lettin us gank their timeslots on
> Saturday.
>
> BOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
>
> Jackson aka ODJ
>
> Partners in Crime, www.DirtboxRadio.com, Trividual Productions, ALIAS
>
>
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Subject: [ne-raves] Re: NASA Review & skinny puppy in chicago (fwd)

Hope you don't mind the forward to NYC Raves. I never did post a review of
NASA yet.

On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 t-bone@acidgrave.com wrote:

> Quoting jasper <jasper@hyperreal.org>:
> > Last I heard a couple years ago all the stuff being played at goth/industrial
> was cheesy trance with horrendous lyrics.
>
*snip*
> balance between misguided actions dealing with the past and the present.  So I
> get dressed, schlep out to East Butttfuk to get back in touch with said sound
> roots, and am met with cheesey trance with horrendous lyrics by guys from LA
> coppin more addy, even though the mo fo is skinnier than Lowkey and half MY
> height. *shakes head in sadness*

This sounds like a specific description. Who are you talking about here?
Those CA goth-industrial kids are serious about appearances. Just wish the
music reflected that. SF - only time I ever saw guys show up to clubs in
incredible wedding gowns with long ass trains. More than a tad disturbing
because these guys were quite a bit more attractive than many of the girls
there.

> > I knew things were dead when NJ industrial bands
> > thought it was cool that they could count to four auf Deutsch. *sigh*
>
> Da.  Das nein gut!

It's been a VERY long time since high school German class but I think
it's, "Das ist nicht gut"... just for future reference.  ;)

One of my faves and still is from that genre and style is Haujobb who has
since completely ditched the guitars which they used in such an effective
way that it didn't bother me (used to hate industrial with metal guitar
riffs). They now sound more like straight up electro, ambient, and glitch.
Really talented producers who aren't afraid to release double disc
packages with the ENTIRE second disc just samples used in that album.

> > On the upside that NASA Reunion party _kicked butt_ and definitely renewed
> > things for me for the moment.
>
> Word.  How so?
> t-bone

Venue (Arc): **
Sound: ****
Lights: ****
Security: **
Music: *******
Crowd/Vibe: ******************************************** +

11:00 - Start waiting on line. Definitely an old school door scene. I
haven't seen a door scene like that since the original Limelight and
Tunnel closed. Only later do we find out that we basically missed Moby,
not that I particularly cared one way or the other -- never heard the man
spin. Door scene was a _mess_. All the security cared about was coralling
people so the sidewalk was open. All that managed to do was make space for
jackasses to walk straight into the middle of the line to cut. We actually
waited nearly an hour and didn't move an inch due to this phenomenom. I so
nearly went ballistic and started kicking heads in but we miraculously got
word amidst this chaotic mess that some girl was handling out tix for
people who pre-paid. Why security wasn't informed of this I'm not certain,
but they told us it was all one big line. All muscle, no brain. Luckily
that was the last we saw of them for the most part. They had a subtle
presence inside and didn't seem to be policing like the Gestapo at other
parties I've been to.

Midnight - Inside was still very roomy and open, not crowded yet. Main
room is an ugly black box that has a heavish feel. Peak time in NYC
wouldn't be for a couple of hours. Chatted and made game plans for the
night with the DC Ravers that I was with. Only saw one NYC person that I
knew that night.  Not sure what that says but...

Some really great classic tunes that I generally don't listen to at home
but were great to hear on a massive PA again. Entropy miraculously kept a
meticulous set list of stuff played that night which he forwarded to a
couple of other lists. All I know is that I don't need to friggin' hear
May's "Strings of Life" five times in one night!!! It's awesome to give
the man props and it's a decent song but jeeze, don't DJs listen to what
the previous DJs just played in their sets?

2 or 3am - Crowd was just hot, sweaty, down, dirty and loving it. As the
night progressed the crowd got even better as the NYC random club scene
types left to go wherever it is that they went which is fine with me
because I don't understand standing on the dance floor with a frown and
taking up space. Amazingly friendly crowd with a slightly above average
age due to the reuniuon aspect. It was all smiles out there. (Disclaimer:
never went to the original NASA though I had friends at the time who did.
For some reason spent more time in the Philly scene at the time.)

Sooo old school because the crowd seemed sooo... average. Not sure how
many of you remember the days when going to raves was just jeans, a T and
sneakers without all the glitz and official rave attireand toys. Sure,
they were there that night but the youngins' were so well behaved that
night, probably because they were dancing next to people like me who made
them feel like they were dancing next to their parents :)  They just sat
on speakers and puddled up by the walls and corners doing their ravey
moves.

Though the back room was brighter than I would have liked it had a really
nice vibe the whole night and at several times throughout the night had
better music than the main floor. Highlight was dancing to Orbital,
"Belfast" which I don't believe I have ever done in public. Back room
feels like a living room with seating taking precedence over dance space
which is fine because sitters and dancers co-existed very nicely.

7am - Just before I left I bumped into this girl who I knew from _ages_
ago. One of the first real DJs I ever met. She had since moved to CA and
come back.  Now _that's_ what the night was about. Not having been to NASA
the first time around I _still_ got the sense it was about reconnecting
with people and music you hadn't seen or heard in years. Amazing time that
really ranks up there in the top 10. Not sure what it was... wish you were
there. It just clicked. No cops, no ODing, no nonsense that I was aware
of. Oh, and no problems refilling water bottles or long lines to use the
restroom. Couldn't have asked for more.

Jasper

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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Re: NASA Review & skinny puppy in chicago (fwd)

Quoting jasper <jasper@hyperreal.org>:
> This sounds like a specific description. Who are you talking about here?

I completely forgot the name of the band.  Perhaps my brain decided to block it
out, or use the space for something more utilitarian, such as where my keys
are, or how many quarts are in a gallon.

> Those CA goth-industrial kids are serious about appearances. 

Pity their appearance didn't refelct this :p

> Just wish the
> music reflected that. SF - only time I ever saw guys show up to clubs in
> incredible wedding gowns with long ass trains. More than a tad disturbing
> because these guys were quite a bit more attractive than many of the girls
> there.

I'll take a cross dresser over those dorks any day of the week.  It always
disturbe me when my male friends look better in my dresses than I do- dammit-
why do THEY have the nice sexy long legs? Huh?!? HUH!>!> Bastards ! >:o

> > Da.  Das nein gut!
> 
> It's been a VERY long time since high school German class but I think
> it's, "Das ist nicht gut"... just for future reference.  ;)

Thank you for the future reference.  I was hoping to accurately emulate the
German shouting New Jerseyans that never took a German lesson in their lives
;)

t-bone

hey jasper- you coming out to Fukkital tonigiht?

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Subject: [ne-raves] Together 2 - Manchester NH 4/20/2004

Sorry if this has been posted more than once guys

The New England Rave Union Presents

TOGETHER 2
@ Bolero
20 Blaine Street
Manchester, NH
ONLY $5.00 ADMISSION
18+
7pm-1 or 2am
April 20, 2004


Visit www.together2.tk for full details, directions and line up!

Featuring....



MAIN ROOM

ATROA *live hardcore/gabber performance*
(ADAM Recordings, NATAS Productions, NH)
Self, and crowd drivin to out-do himself constantly, ATROA and his
live act have yet again taken another step over and above the
standard of electronic music live performance. Blazing hip hop
vocals smothered with hard hitting gabber percussion breaks, and
hardcore metal influenced guitar rythms can only be described as
just a mere tease to what the full live experience has to offer.
This, along with his more traditonal style gabber jams, you can be
guaranteed that 2k4 will be hitting harder than ever. A*nother
T*housand R*ounds O*f A*mmo is knockin at yo' door........Got vest?

Jack McDevitt *Nu Skool Breaks*
(Volume Productions, Quantum, 6 Foot DJ Crew, NH)
Although he has recently retired his player jersey, there is no
reason to think the breaks will be any less serious. a driving force
in the New England breaks scene Jack McDevitt is gonna come and rep
for his locals in ManchVegas...


Mike Garrison *Funky House*
(Counterfeit Beats, NERU, Basketball Finger Jams, MA)
Mike could quite have possibly been forged from wavering sign waves
and the analog sound of a 303. Expect a soulful blend of uplifting,
chunky, Kung Fu funky Housenbrakes. Wear your shell toes, cuz it's
time to wake up tha FUNK. ***CD RELEASE***

Black Electro *Techno*
(NERU, DigitalLogixAM, NH)
>From Europe to America, this man is a techno pioneer. With his
excellent track selection and amazing turntable skills, he is sure
to impress you. His slammin tracks will only move you but will
redefine the definition of techno.

Goober *2-Step, Funky Breaks*
(Nine2Five Productions, ME)
Are you ready to be sore.  Well you will be after this man's set.
>From sexy 2step and garage to bass throbing speed garage. Goober is
gonna make you dance like never before. If you haven't been around
for one of his sets then you are in for a special treat. Goober
works the crowd like no one else and you'll be lucky to catch your
breath when he is done.


Nocturnal feat MC Blest *Dum n Bass*
(Digital Mercenaries, ME)
Digital Mercenaries online webcast resident and "Warehouse"(*New
Portland weekly happening every Saturday*) resident, Dj Nocturnal
(Digitalmercs.com, Galactic Productions,ME), will be spinning a RAW
Old Skool Jungle set, strictly for the underground massive.
Alongside the one like the infamous MC Blest, these two are prepared
to bring clean flows and rugged rhythms like no others.


SIDE ROOM

Drew Blair *NRG*
(Nine2Five, NH)
Representing the NH capital city, Drew Blair throws down the hard
hitting NRG like none other! Drew displays his skills as a resident
on Nine2Five Productions' weekly radio show Essential Tuesdays, and
plans to destroy the dancefloor at Together 2 as only he can. His
incredible track selections and precise mixing will keep you dancing
from begining to end!


Identity *hard dance/nrg*
(NERU, DigitalLogixAM, Drive It Like Ya Stole It, ME)
Redefining the female turntable sector straight from the Maine
woods, this woman is going to tear your night apart and possibly
blow all the walls out of the club with some of the best uk
selections in her crate. ***CO RELEASE for FENOMENON***

DOYLE *house*
(Nine2Five, NERU, FountainXIX, NH)
You can never tell what will be bangin outta the speaker when this
man hits the decks, but you can be guarenteed an amazing set.  From
house, to trance, to NRG, to gabber, DOYLE will surley hit that spot
inside of you that craves beats, no matter what direction he chooses!

Max OD vs. Kris P.  *Chicago Hardhouse/Scratch*
(Ficticious, NERU, Window, NH)
These two are surley the turntablists of the century!  Both have
spent numerous hours perfecting their beat juggling, cutting and
scratching, and will definatly turn your head tonight as well as
make you move.  From production, to performance, these two will
surley amazing you in the utmost ways!

Matty B. & Brandon Miles  *Drum n Bass*
(NERU, MA/Digital Mercenaries, ME)
Being a regular at the Drum n Bassment, this dreaded junglist knows
just how to make the crowd go nuts. This kid is all about the drums
and tonight, he'll prove it. Come and see Drum N Bass the way it was
meant to be, fast as hell with the bassliens that drop you on your
ass.

Raffael *deep house*
(NH)



2 Full rooms of sound. Full bar for those 21 and up. Red bull,
water, iced coffee and more. MANY giveaways! Skateboard decks, cd's,
shirts, records, autographed records, and more! Stick to
www.together2.tk for more details, directions, and more.


-Drew Blair
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Subject: [ne-raves] 04.22 :: GET THE BALANCE RIGHT : ALIAS@Nation : DnB+Breaks : OPEN
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* Get on the $4 VIP list! -- info at bottom of this email...


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Subject: [ne-raves] REVIEW - Together 2

Definately a 5 star night


Right when i got there at 9 I headed into the side room to catch the 
begining of Raf and Will's set. They were gettin the groove going with some 
quality deep house, as they always do.

in the main room was Mike Garrison spinning funky house... had a VERY good 
set. Had everyone in the room moving from begining to end, i really enjoyed 
it.

After that was my boy GOOBER in the main room with the speed garage. He 
always rocks it. He continued the energy that mike started and kept it going 
straight through to 11.



I missed out on almost the entire 11-12 hour because i was outside and/or at 
the foodstore, so I can't do a good review for it.



12-1 was my set in the side room. It went well. I must have stolen a bunch 
of people out of the main room cause the side room was pretty full :). 
People looked to be enjoying themselves, so i was pretty happy too.


I had a very good time last night. It's nice to go to a club where NOTHING 
sketchy happens. I think that's pretty damn cool, and MAD props go to Mel 
and everyone from the NERU for throwing a very memorable event.


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What and where was together 2?   Were there alot of people there?  What club was it at?  This review is pretty bad...makes me glad I didnt hear about it and wind up going by accident.
 
Is it just me??  Did ANYONE hear about this party?
 
k.

b o 0 <drew_xxx_84@hotmail.com> wrote:
Definately a 5 star night


Right when i got there at 9 I headed into the side room to catch the 
begining of Raf and Will's set. They were gettin the groove going with some 
quality deep house, as they always do.

in the main room was Mike Garrison spinning funky house... had a VERY good 
set. Had everyone in the room moving from begining to end, i really enjoyed 
it.

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always rocks it. He continued the energy that mike started and kept it going 
straight through to 11.



I missed out on almost the entire 11-12 hour because i was outside and/or at 
the foodstore, so I can't do a good review for it.



12-1 was my set in the side room. It went well. I must have stolen a bunch 
of people out of the main room cause the side room was pretty full :). 
People looked to be enjoying themselves, so i was pretty happy too.


I had a very good time last night. It's nice to go to a club where NOTHING 
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> What and where was together 2?  Were there alot of people there?  What
> club was it at?  This review is pretty bad...makes me glad I didnt hear
> about it and wind up going by accident.

Well it's good to know that stuff is happening in NH at all just in case I
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> Is it just me??  Did ANYONE hear about this party?

To be fair, the e-flyer was posted to the list.

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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] REVIEW - Together 2

>What and where was together 2?

4/20 in Manchester NH @ the weekly known as Unity



>Were there alot of people there?

Yeah, it's a small club but it was pretty packed, hard to move at some 
points.



>This review is pretty bad...

I'm definately known for not writing the best reviews, sorry. ;)




>makes me glad I didnt hear about it and wind up going by accident.

That's too bad, you might have had some fun. But to each their own i guess.


For more info on parties at this location, go to 
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>Well it's good to know that stuff is happening in NH at all just in case I
>happen to be stuck up there :)  What's hot up there anyway?

The only things i know of that are going on in NH are the parties at 
Bolero's and Tommy Gunn's new afterhours (actualy right up the street from 
bolero's at a roller skating rink)

Other than that the state's pretty dead, unfortunately.


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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] REVIEW - Together 2


Still, any review is better than no review.

For example...

Review of the party in my pants:  Awesome.

KeNNy!

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On Thu, 22 Apr 2004, b o 0 wrote:

> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 13:52:24 -0400
> From: b o 0 <drew_xxx_84@hotmail.com>
> To: supapimpny@yahoo.com, ne-raves@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: [ne-raves] REVIEW - Together 2
>
> >What and where was together 2?
>
> 4/20 in Manchester NH @ the weekly known as Unity
>
>
>
> >Were there alot of people there?
>
> Yeah, it's a small club but it was pretty packed, hard to move at some
> points.
>
>
>
> >This review is pretty bad...
>
> I'm definately known for not writing the best reviews, sorry. ;)
>
>
>
>
> >makes me glad I didnt hear about it and wind up going by accident.
>
> That's too bad, you might have had some fun. But to each their own i gues=
s.
>
>
> For more info on parties at this location, go to
> http://www.newenglandraveunion.com
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>
> next month's headliner's Dirty ol Frank. I'll be there for sure.
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Probably why I didnt hear about it...I delete parties that arent in the Tri-State area.
 
Also - whoever said any review is better than no review - I disagree....I got nothing from that review.  Absolutely nothing.  So some djs played music.  woohoo.  How many people showed up?  How was the venue?  Any more info on what the dj's played besides funky house?  I think reviews should be felt - make a reader feel like they were there - whether a good party or a bad.  You don't have to be a novelist - but a couple of adjectives and verbs and you're set  ;)

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> What and where was together 2? Were there alot of people there? What
> club was it at? This review is pretty bad...makes me glad I didnt hear
> about it and wind up going by accident.

Well it's good to know that stuff is happening in NH at all just in case I
happen to be stuck up there :) What's hot up there anyway?

> Is it just me?? Did ANYONE hear about this party?

To be fair, the e-flyer was posted to the list.
		
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They shared their excitement with me and for that I am grateful.  It's
reassurance that things are still alive out there in <insert whatever ya
wanna call it> land.  Having all the details does me no good because the
night will never be relived even if all the pieces are put back the way
they were.

KeNNy!

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> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 14:22:53 -0700 (PDT)
> From: kelly d <supapimpny@yahoo.com>
> To: Jasper Lin <jasper@hyperreal.org>
> Cc: ne-raves@hyperreal.org
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>
> Probably why I didnt hear about it...I delete parties that arent in the T=
ri-State area.
>
> Also - whoever said any review is better than no review - I disagree....I=
 got nothing from that review.  Absolutely nothing.  So some djs played mus=
ic.  woohoo.  How many people showed up?  How was the venue?  Any more info=
 on what the dj's played besides funky house?  I think reviews should be fe=
lt - make a reader feel like they were there - whether a good party or a ba=
d.  You don't have to be a novelist - but a couple of adjectives and verbs =
and you're set  ;)
>
> Jasper Lin <jasper@hyperreal.org> wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Apr 2004, kelly d wrote:
>
> > What and where was together 2? Were there alot of people there? What
> > club was it at? This review is pretty bad...makes me glad I didnt hear
> > about it and wind up going by accident.
>
> Well it's good to know that stuff is happening in NH at all just in case =
I
> happen to be stuck up there :) What's hot up there anyway?
>
> > Is it just me?? Did ANYONE hear about this party?
>
> To be fair, the e-flyer was posted to the list.
>
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OK...Im not going to go on forever with this same subject, but I have one more thing to say.  There was no excitement in that review.  It was BLAH...boring...'these djs played funky house and rocked it'.  whoopdi-fuckin-doo.
 
THAT's excitement to you?  Excitement is when you are so astounded by the moment/night/whatever that no words can complete what you have to say....excitement is when you ramble on and on about the same thing trying to get other people to fully understand exactly how you felt.  There was not even an inkling of excitement in that review.  I am not reassured that things are going well in clubtown...actually, I felt kind of put off from that review.  Made me glad I didn't go.  Didn't seem fun or exciting or even interesting.  
 
I'm not looking to relive the night, I wasn't there, so I can't relive it - I'm just trying to see what they saw... through their words.  Thats what a review is for...to put the person in the middle of the action...to let someone see how the night went even though they weren't a part of it.
 
Ummmm...anyone else have any feelings on what you want from a review???...geez - this list is damn BORING.  There's 4 people that post on this thing...wake up and say something.  
 
Kelly.

KaNdE KiD KeNNy! <kenny@orwell.lost-angel.com> wrote:

They shared their excitement with me and for that I am grateful. It's
reassurance that things are still alive out there in wanna call it> land. Having all the details does me no good because the
night will never be relived even if all the pieces are put back the way
they were.

KeNNy!

aim: munkeybuttt
yahoo: jungleboogiemonster
http://ghetto.hjsoft.com


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Also - whoever said any review is better than no review - I disagree....I got nothing from that review. Absolutely nothing. So some djs played music. woohoo. How many people showed up? How was the venue? Any more info on what the dj's played besides funky house? I think reviews should be felt - make a reader feel like they were there - whether a good party or a bad. You don't have to be a novelist - but a couple of adjectives and verbs and you're set ;)

		
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On Fri, 23 Apr 2004, kelly d wrote:

> review???...geez - this list is damn BORING.  There's 4 people that post
> on this thing...wake up and say something.

Careful what you wish for.

About time for a net-meet/picnic/party or some such huh?

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In a message dated 4/23/2004 5:50:23 PM, jasper@hyperreal.org writes:

<< About time for a net-meet/picnic/party or some such huh? >>

agreed! nice little outdoor thing-y. maybe have some sound, a generator, and 
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Some people just aren't gifted reviewers I guess.


::shrug::

I'll try harder next time. I'm on a lot of lists, and posted that same 
review to all of them. I sometimes forget that a few people aren't from my 
area and won't know anything at all about an event or the people involved. I 
guess you could say I wrote that review for people that knew about the event 
and knew/knew about the people involved.




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Subject: [ne-raves] vein pumping and mind blowing reviews?

tell me who else here thinks that nothing beats a wicked synth over some DnB 
infuenced trance. if I were a real Dj i would lay it down. id wanna see 
hands wavin as high as they could. cause you can feel the ecstasy at that 
moment, like your mind is in the air, and even if you were to think about it 
it wouldnt matter, cause when that break comes in the music and the synth 
builds for 4 measures or whatever, you can feel it in the first chakra and 
then it lets go and its like your mind orgasms, you dont care what anybody 
thought you dont even remember what you thought, its just you and the pulse 
of the universe. (D-J Cut!) anyone who knows, yeah. you cant lose that, and 
its nicer without E i feel in my analytical mind however, ya ya ya. too many 
become accustomed to going and just listening to the music and or 
mingle-ing, the music is listening to your soul, what is it saying.


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you guys really came down hard on that review, so did i, crap, the party 
probably couldnt be described objectively or subjectively whichever one 
means non personal style. through someone elses eyes.

50 Cent needs to go away.
just as well as anyone else who doesnt write their own songs and gets famous

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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] vein pumping and mind blowing reviews?

We seek simliar experiences in terms of feeling the connection between movement,
imagination, energy, and sounds. The method of how we get there (be it a 4/4
beat with dNb or breakcore or a 303) is almost irrelevant.  The sounds that
move me probably are not the same ones that move you, but IMHO we meet on the
plane of reaction.

t-bone

p.s. Very cute saying everyone who uses other ppl's work shouls not be famous, I
hope you realize you are talking about what a DJ does.  Just pointing it out

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--- Jasper Lin <jasper@hyperreal.org> wrote:

> About time for a net-meet/picnic/party or some such huh?

Not a bad idea. If someone is intrested in doing this plese speak up, then we
can get any DJ's/Producers on the list to volunteer. I would do it like i have
done many times in the past but im to busy spending my years salary on
renovating my house and preparing for the fact that I will be married in 5
days.



=====
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http://blackmonolith.com

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Subject: [ne-raves] STR=?ISO-8859-1?B?5U5HRUz4?=VE :: FREE event Sundays :: + TRANSIT
	tonite!


Every Sunday Night the Spunk Boys invite you to join them in STRANGELOVE...=
.

The Spunk Boy DJs ::
JTFLASSH (aka John Tab)
SPIGGY

Featuring a lovesick blend of electro, modern and 80s synth-pop, classic
acid house, retro-techno, disco-punk.... at Cocoa, a newly-minted lounge in
the heart of Dupont Circle.

* Sunday nights =8B 9 p.m. - 1 a.m.
* 21+ over
* no cover =8B that means it=B9s FREE
* drink specials

STRANGELOVE Sundays at Cocoa =8B 2020 P St. NW, Dupont Circle, Washington DC


Check the Buzzboard to see who=B9s going Sunday!
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GIVE Productions proudly presents:

Transit @ Bridges

This Saturday - April 24, 2004
- featuring -=20

John Tab (buzzlife, A.L.I.A.S, dc) exclusive atmospheric d-n-b set
Joey Muniz (broken soul, funktribe records, dc) house
LXG (give, gua rapo, dc) progressive house
Andrew Flint (give, dc) epic trance

$5 cover
21 & over
9:00 till 2 am

*followed by private afterhours party in Fairfax - 1.5 miles from the venue
for more info email giveproductions@yahoo.com
=20
THERE ARE NOW 2 AFTER PARTIES WITHIN 2MILES OF EACH OTHER
BOTH ABOUT 1.5 MILES FROM THE VENUE
DIRECTIONS TO BE GIVEN OUT THROUGH INVITATION TONIGHT!
=A0
AFTER PARTY LINEUP:
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JT-FLASH (AKA JOHN TAB)
RAMIRO

Main Event (Transit) venue Info / Directions

10560 Main Street
Fairfax, VA 22030
Bridges is located in the front of the Mosby Building
on Main Street in Fairfax just west of 123.

Full Bar w/ drink specials
Food served til midnight
(cheese fries w/ranch dressing & crab cake sandwiches are yummy)

** ATTENTION DC AREA DJ'S **

** SIGN UP IN PERSON ON 4/24 AT TRANSIT
 FOR THE FIRST AVAILABLE SLOTS FOR THE LOCAL DJ RECORDING NIGHT / COLD
TURKEY STYLE EVENT WHICH WILL BEGIN WITHIN A FEW WEEKS FOLLOWING TRANSIT'S
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** FIRST COME FIRST SERVE **
** THERE WILL BE 6-8 ONE HOUR SLOTS AVAILABLE **
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** LAST YEAR COLD TURKEY WAS BOOKED 7 MONTHS IN ADVANCE
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Subject: Re: Re: [ne-raves] REVIEW - Together 2


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---- On Fri, 23 Apr 2004, kelly d (supapimpny@yahoo.com) wrote:

> OK...Im not going to go on forever with this same subject, but I have one more
thing to say.  There
> was no excitement in that review.  It was BLAH...boring...'these djs played
funky house and rocked
> it'.  whoopdi-fuckin-doo.
  
> THAT's excitement to you?  Excitement is when you are so astounded by the
moment/night/whatever that
> no words can complete what you have to say....excitement is when you ramble on
and on about the same
> thing trying to get other people to fully understand exactly how you felt. 

not necessarily - i was excited when i sat down to take a shit and the first one
finally came out after a bit of a struggle.  do i really need to ramble about it
or, for that matter, even make more than a passing mention of it?  no.  it's
something we've all done at some point so the understanding is there.  


> There was not even an
> inkling of excitement in that review.  I am not reassured that things are
going well in
> clubtown...actually, I felt kind of put off from that review.  Made me glad I
didn't go.  Didn't seem
> fun or exciting or even interesting.  

I go to a club, i have fun.  doesn't have to mean i am ecstatic.  i might have
just had a fun time, not experienced a life changing event.  maybe the kid just
went out, heard some fun tunes, played a few tracks and hung out with friends. 
i don't need a 4,000 word essay on how his little club-nite/party is changing
the face of rave culture.   he said he had fun.  he mentioned what kind of music
the dj's played.  he lives in new hampshire or maine or something.  they're more
subdued anyway - not like hyperactive, exagerating new york types who think this
track is either the greatest ever written or the producer (and dj) should be
strung up by his left testicle.

> I'm not looking to relive the night, I wasn't there, so I can't relive it -
I'm just trying to see
> what they saw... through their words.  Thats what a review is for...to put the
person in the middle
> of the action...to let someone see how the night went even though they weren't
a part of it.

review is defined as: "a retrospective view or survey" in webster.  that doesn't
mean he needs to describe every part of the nite - just the important parts to
him.  the music and his friends.  from his review i learned that the place was
crowded, the basic set-up of the venue, the music was good and he had fun.  it
stands to reason that if he had fun (and doesn't sound like a crack head) and
the place was crowded that most of the people there had fun as well.  so i can
guess that if i were, for some insane reason, stuck in his neck of the woods, i
would have something fun to do for a nite.  
  
> Ummmm...anyone else have any feelings on what you want from a review???...geez
- this list is damn
> BORING.  There's 4 people that post on this thing...wake up and say something.
 
>  
> Kelly.

i think i covered what i need from a review.  now if one chooses to tell me
every detail, down to the giant booger they had to pick out, then great - i have
an even more vivid idea of the nite.  but it's not necessary, and i won't say
things like "in my opinion, your literary skills are severely lacking.  thus, i
shall avoid any events your or your associates are involved in."  seems a little
priggish to me.

-jw
"To be nobody-but-yourself -- in a world which is doing its best, night and day,
to make you everybody else -- means to fight the hardest battle which any human
being can fight; and never stop fighting."
   e.e. cummings


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I would definitely be down to do something like this.  I would definitely
volunteer for setting up and DJing

JJ Brennan  (DJ Incognito)
People who can't dance, blame the DJ.


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--- Jasper Lin <jasper@hyperreal.org> wrote:

> About time for a net-meet/picnic/party or some such huh?

Not a bad idea. If someone is intrested in doing this plese speak up, then
we
can get any DJ's/Producers on the list to volunteer. I would do it like i
have
done many times in the past but im to busy spending my years salary on
renovating my house and preparing for the fact that I will be married in 5
days.



=====
Skinner 
http://blackmonolith.com

"A liberal is a man to broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel." --
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Subject: [ne-raves] .: Dirtbox Radio Tonight (4/25) : Live DNB : Ricky Ricardo, PiC +
 More :.


What's up y'all!

Tonight is the first night of a new year for Dirtbox Radio, and we're
happy to bring you some smashin tunes to set it off right.  Joining your
faithful hosts tonight will be Ricky Ricardo, with the possible showing of
Dirtbox Kru's Phil Scott and/or Mr. Joey Migraine of Jungletrain's
Renegade Bass.  It'll be a bangin show regardless, so tune the fuck in!

Ricky Ricardo dropped a dope garage set last week at the 2 year party, so
we got him back this week to give you a junglist injection.  A true
hardcore motherfucker, and representative of the Dirtbox Kru, I've yet to
hear this guy play anything but a retardedly good set.  He'll be playin
tonight from 8-10pm.


Linkz:

Destroyer.net (128k): http://64.246.60.15:8800/listen.pls

Jungletrain.net (64k): http://jungletrain.net/64kbps.pls
Jungletrain.net (24k): http://jungletrain.net/24kbps.pls

Chatroom: http://jungletrain.net/index.php?page=2&subpage=0&color=2
 IRC - irc.jungletrain.net #jungletrain

Webcam: http://glue.umd.edu/~odjallen/dirtboxradio/webcam.html

AIM: dirtboxradio


I've got the archives encoded from 4/11, 4/17 (stream), and 4/18.  They'll
be up on the site on MONDAY night (ferreal this time!).  See you cats in
'bout an hour.  Tune in to the shows beforehand and give 'em some love!

PS - Biggup to Abe Froman and his lovely wife Valerie.  They're havin a
baby and are about a week overdue.  We'll get him back here after the fact
for a Baby Daddy set :)

Jackson aka ODJ

Partners in Crime, www.DirtboxRadio.com, Trividual Productions, ALIAS

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If you guyz do something like this, you can count me in too. 



DJ Thumpmatic
Affiliates: BTownSound.Com / DownAzzCrew
Email: Thumpmatic@aol.com
AIM: Thumpmatic
www.btownsound.com 
www.geocities.com/downazzcrew 
Bookings: lolo_demaine@btownsound.com 
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k here we go. . . .

on saturday we arrived at the secret clearing in the forest at about 11:00. . .ppl were setting up tents and making campfires all aruond, barbecuing, enjoying the fresh air that summer has to offer.  enjoying the absolute surreality of actual reality after being stuck up in clubs all winter.  finally, the air is good and ppl are real and the psytrance is BOOOOMINg.

even though the generator was faulty the main sound system exploded in the forest with blistering psychedelia when it was working.  even though many of the djs on the lineup didnt make it because they heard the news that there was trouble with the generator the ones who did arrive blasted.  the dancefloor fillled and filled with many beautiful dancing faces.    a powerful meditation in the open air.

  when the sound failed ppl huddled around bonfires, played bongos and enjoyed the many wonders of interesting conversation with unique ppl from all aroiund the world.  then ppl just blasted the systems in their cars and many little mini parties around each car/fire/tent.
 in the morning when the sun came up they downsized the system so it would stay on and full on israeli morning sounds permeated the clear blue sky.   

we left with tired feet at about 10am and made it safely back to philly.

a truly transcendant party.

Zev

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I write reviews of parties as well - and if you read them, you would know that I try to make the person feel like they were there.  I try not to make them boring...and explain a certain moment that moved me in more than 1 word. Not...'it was rad man'. (disclaimer: not quoting anyone in particular)
 
All I ask for is a lil more feeling when reviewing.
 
k.

Todd x <chokken@hotmail.com> wrote:
you guys really came down hard on that review, so did i, crap, the party 
probably couldnt be described objectively or subjectively whichever one 
means non personal style. through someone elses eyes.

50 Cent needs to go away.
just as well as anyone else who doesnt write their own songs and gets famous

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Congrats on the house & marriage thing.
 
I'll help out - providing its in a central part of this list - the parties have been in philly and south jersey in the past and I have chose to not go bc I don't travel to party anymore.  If we can come a lil more north up the coast, I will def make it.  Also...we needa  breaks dj thrown into the mix - I know alot of you kats like hard techno and rough dnb...a lil new school breaks will def be a change of pace.

The Ted Nugent of Techno <skinner@hyperreal.org> wrote:

--- Jasper Lin wrote:

> About time for a net-meet/picnic/party or some such huh?

Not a bad idea. If someone is intrested in doing this plese speak up, then we
can get any DJ's/Producers on the list to volunteer. I would do it like i have
done many times in the past but im to busy spending my years salary on
renovating my house and preparing for the fact that I will be married in 5
days.



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Very nice...sounds like my 1st trance gathering that I went to last year up in Afton, NY.  I wrote a long review about it then...it was the OmniFest in a campground up in the stix.  All was great aside from me hitting a deer on the way up...and the inability to sleep for 2 days due to it.  Us hitting a deer was NOTHING compared to the stories we heard once we got there.  Some people drove off a cliff into into this farmers field where he dragged their car out with a tractor.  I guess anything can happen when you're driving around on Friday the 13th, full moon, foggy and raining, and you go one exit past where you're supposed to.  It had all the makings of a horror flick.
 
But the party was insane....3 days of trance (which I don't particularly like too much, but had alot of fun listening to it and chillen with all the crazy tranceheads), we had some rednecks in the camp next to us that had a chick that had more hair under her arms and on her legs than she had on her head and she was trying to give us a big mouth bass to cook for dinner, Jeff Brainmachine was there crazy like always - that was actually the 1st day I met him and he def made me forget that my car was in shambles - if you don't know Jeff, you def have to meet him, he's a crazy man.  Also, there are ALOT of Israelis and Russians that go to these trance gatherings....but not ones that moved to America...there were alot of people from overseas that came to this festival...I just didn't know that trance had such a big international following.
 
3 days later, it started pouring and it was time to go anyways...I had a blast until then bc I had to get back into my broken car and drive through deer country again.  If there's another OmniFest...I will be there with bells on.
 
Time to get back to work...
Kelly.
 
 

Gtown685@aol.com wrote:
k here we go. . . .

on saturday we arrived at the secret clearing in the forest at about 11:00. . .ppl were setting up tents and making campfires all aruond, barbecuing, enjoying the fresh air that summer has to offer. enjoying the absolute surreality of actual reality after being stuck up in clubs all winter. finally, the air is good and ppl are real and the psytrance is BOOOOMINg.

even though the generator was faulty the main sound system exploded in the forest with blistering psychedelia when it was working. even though many of the djs on the lineup didnt make it because they heard the news that there was trouble with the generator the ones who did arrive blasted. the dancefloor fillled and filled with many beautiful dancing faces. a powerful meditation in the open air.

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in the morning when the sun came up they downsized the system so it would stay on and full on israeli morning sounds permeated the clear blue sky. 

we left with tired feet at about 10am and made it safely back to philly.

a truly transcendant party.

Zev

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Chill out dude.  Everyone has different skills, some people are better
musicians, runners, techheads, and even writers than others.  Why should your
opinion of a persons writing skills interfere with them wanting to share an
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> I write reviews of parties as well - and if you read them, you would know
> that I try to make the person feel like they were there.  I try not to make
> them boring...and explain a certain moment that moved me in more than 1 word.
> Not...'it was rad man'. (disclaimer: not quoting anyone in particular)
>
> All I ask for is a lil more feeling when reviewing.
>
> k.
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www.omnidancefestival.info

this one should be amazing.  same location.   

all amazing international artists.   local dj picks are ill as well.  




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hehe - sorry youre reading my posts wrong, but Im not riding someones ass...I just asked for a lil more explaination, thats all.  A little more feeling...if thats riding someones ass in your book, I'd hate to come across you in NYC.

t-bone@acidgrave.com wrote:Chill out dude. Everyone has different skills, some people are better
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t-bone
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> I write reviews of parties as well - and if you read them, you would know
> that I try to make the person feel like they were there. I try not to make
> them boring...and explain a certain moment that moved me in more than 1 word.
> Not...'it was rad man'. (disclaimer: not quoting anyone in particular)
>
> All I ask for is a lil more feeling when reviewing.
>
> k.
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Did you go last year??  Maybe you'll remember my smashed up Civic by the small cabins by the lake?  I wasn't my best that weekend...very upset over the whole deer scenario and for the 1st day I didn't really come out of our cabin.  Was walking around by the 2nd day, but from no sleep, I was exhausted....and it was quite hilly up there.
 
Was it me, or was that area SUPER rednecky??  We got lost going home and stopped to ask some guy for directions, he ha no teeth and was speaking complete jibberish...I'll DEF go again.

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Seriously t-bone, looks like someone woke up on the wrong side of the
glowstick today.

Hahahaha.

Personally, when I do reviews, I like people to feel like they are going to
die (or vomit).

--matt


On 4/26/04 10:50 AM, "kelly d" <supapimpny@yahoo.com> wrote:

> hehe - sorry youre reading my posts wrong, but Im not riding someones ass...I
> just asked for a lil more explaination, thats all.  A little more feeling...if
> thats riding someones ass in your book, I'd hate to come across you in NYC.
> 
> t-bone@acidgrave.com wrote:Chill out dude. Everyone has different skills, some
> people are better
> musicians, runners, techheads, and even writers than others. Why should your
> opinion of a persons writing skills interfere with them wanting to share an
> experience? It's not as though it was full of lies and trash talking. To ride
> someone's ass about not describing the party to sound exciting enough is
> petty.
> Drop it already.
> 
> t-bone
> Quoting kelly d :
> 
>> I write reviews of parties as well - and if you read them, you would know
>> that I try to make the person feel like they were there. I try not to make
>> them boring...and explain a certain moment that moved me in more than 1 word.
>> Not...'it was rad man'. (disclaimer: not quoting anyone in particular)
>> 
>> All I ask for is a lil more feeling when reviewing.
>> 
>> k.
>> 
> 
> 
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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] reviewer harshness

you may find the review half-assed, but it's better
than NO review. 

dont' be so critical...sheesh!

at least they're contributing something

my review:

i went to bad boy bill at cubik on friday.  it was
cool.

the music was good, people were smiling.  i took
pictures, and here they are:

http://www.planetedm.com/GalleryTEMP/album60

my pictures provide a better review than i ever could



--- Matthew Moran <matt@thingstocome.com> wrote:
> 
> Seriously t-bone, looks like someone woke up on the
> wrong side of the
> glowstick today.
> 
> Hahahaha.
> 
> Personally, when I do reviews, I like people to feel
> like they are going to
> die (or vomit).
> 
> --matt
> 
> 
> On 4/26/04 10:50 AM, "kelly d"
> <supapimpny@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > hehe - sorry youre reading my posts wrong, but Im
> not riding someones ass...I
> > just asked for a lil more explaination, thats all.
>  A little more feeling...if
> > thats riding someones ass in your book, I'd hate
> to come across you in NYC.
> > 
> > t-bone@acidgrave.com wrote:Chill out dude.
> Everyone has different skills, some
> > people are better
> > musicians, runners, techheads, and even writers
> than others. Why should your
> > opinion of a persons writing skills interfere with
> them wanting to share an
> > experience? It's not as though it was full of lies
> and trash talking. To ride
> > someone's ass about not describing the party to
> sound exciting enough is
> > petty.
> > Drop it already.
> > 
> > t-bone
> > Quoting kelly d :
> > 
> >> I write reviews of parties as well - and if you
> read them, you would know
> >> that I try to make the person feel like they were
> there. I try not to make
> >> them boring...and explain a certain moment that
> moved me in more than 1 word.
> >> Not...'it was rad man'. (disclaimer: not quoting
> anyone in particular)
> >> 
> >> All I ask for is a lil more feeling when
> reviewing.
> >> 
> >> k.
> >> 
> > 
> > 
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I feel fine and I'm not misreading anything.  For all the things to talk about,
complaining numerous times that someone's writing style is boring is lame. 
THis isn't an English class, and those who are not confident in their writing
skills may decide not to share them.  Talk about something else.  Matt- where's
your review of the last party you threw?  I'm sure it will be rife with emotion
and mind bolowing analogies.  I bet you could even do it in sonnet form :P :P
:P

t-bone

Quoting Matthew Moran <matt@thingstocome.com>:
> Seriously t-bone, looks like someone woke up on the wrong side of the
> glowstick today.
>
> Hahahaha.
>
> Personally, when I do reviews, I like people to feel like they are going to
> die (or vomit).
>
> --matt
>
>
> On 4/26/04 10:50 AM, "kelly d" <supapimpny@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > hehe - sorry youre reading my posts wrong, but Im not riding someones
> ass...I
> > just asked for a lil more explaination, thats all.  A little more
> feeling...if
> > thats riding someones ass in your book, I'd hate to come across you in NYC.

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Review of my last party in freeform haiku:

I hate the knitting factory.
They can suck my dick.
I can't wait to find a new venue.


--matt





On 4/26/04 11:07 AM, "t-bone@acidgrave.com" <t-bone@acidgrave.com> wrote:

> I feel fine and I'm not misreading anything.  For all the things to talk
> about,
> complaining numerous times that someone's writing style is boring is lame.
> THis isn't an English class, and those who are not confident in their writing
> skills may decide not to share them.  Talk about something else.  Matt-
> where's
> your review of the last party you threw?  I'm sure it will be rife with
> emotion
> and mind bolowing analogies.  I bet you could even do it in sonnet form :P :P
> :P
> 
> t-bone
> 
> Quoting Matthew Moran <matt@thingstocome.com>:
>> Seriously t-bone, looks like someone woke up on the wrong side of the
>> glowstick today.
>> 
>> Hahahaha.
>> 
>> Personally, when I do reviews, I like people to feel like they are going to
>> die (or vomit).
>> 
>> --matt
>> 
>> 
>> On 4/26/04 10:50 AM, "kelly d" <supapimpny@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> hehe - sorry youre reading my posts wrong, but Im not riding someones
>> ass...I
>>> just asked for a lil more explaination, thats all.  A little more
>> feeling...if
>>> thats riding someones ass in your book, I'd hate to come across you in NYC.
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Now in these times of change we must evolve once again... the future is ours=
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and our culture will survive... dance music is forever... it is not trend...=
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it is a gloabal trend... it is here for all of us to embrace and become more=
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through. Our lives are forever changed because of it... this will continue a=
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we, as humans, continue to persevere in this cycle of dance... a cycle of=20
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defined by the unacceptance of others. OUR integrity, OUR music, OUR culture=
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PZ, Knowledge

Columns Of Knowledge presents:=20

PHUNKADELIC

5.29.04


MAIN ROOM: ELECTRIK AVENUE


DJ DAN (www.djdan.com, Kinetic Records, San Fran, CA)

AMERICA'S FAVORITE AMERICAN DJ (BPM Readers Poll 2004)!

Congratulations Dan! Kicking off New Yrs in Sydney Austrailia at a gig for=20
12000 people was just another amazing day in the life for one of America's=20
house/techno/breaks gurus! Beginning as Los Angeles' top techno DJ in the ea=
rly=20
90's, he went on to inspire the breakbeat trend a few short years later with=
 the=20
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Damage"--a fusion of all that is hard and funky. He has toured the world=20
over, releasing numerous highly celebrated singles and popular CD's. His las=
t mix=20
cd on Kinetic "Live @ Ruby Skye" is still doing huge numbers. His gig schedu=
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is more like a map to the world. His newest single "That Phone Track", a=20
concept single, is set to destroy dancefloors across the world in 2004 and w=
as=20
created from analogue and digital phone sounds. He also just completed the t=
heme=20
music for Cartoon Network's new episodes of "Transformers" and launched=20
www.djdan.com. Always down to earth in person and not letting his accomplish=
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turn into egomania, Dan is a pure favorite amongst his fans! Whether its tec=
hno,=20
breaks, all styles of house... he is an industry standard, always solid, and=
=20
always on point! We are honored and excited to have this legend back once=20
again for this special Phunkadelic session! 12:30-2:00AM

MICRO (www.djmicro.com, System Recordings, NY)
With residencies and appearances across the USA and abroad, Micro constantly=
=20
delivers the goods with hand raising sets that encompass a blend of trance,=20
progressive, and even funky techno at times. Every cd released has done 1000=
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units... he is unquestionably a household name. His last single on System=20
"Penetrate" was an instant global success, one of his best 12" to date in a=20=
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series of back to back hits even from his beginning with the legendary Caffe=
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Crew of early 90's. From past to present Micro has won his way into hearts o=
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many along the journey and we will always be happy to bring him into our hou=
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for your ears! 11:15-12:30AM

DJ KEOKI (Cleopatra Records =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=80=9C NYC =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=
=80=9C www.djkeoki.com www.fyifirm.com)

SPECIAL ELECTRO-CLASH SET!

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=20
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Dance Chart dominator. Sought-after mixmaster for exclusive private soirees.=
=20
Keoki's early famewas earned at his legendary residency at the Disco 2000 ni=
ght=20
at Limelight. In Party Monster, Keoki's infamous time in this icon of club=20
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to hallmark their legendary cd and 12" series. In 1998 his "Caterpillar" tra=
ck=20
made #3 on Billboard and even was feat. on the Simpsons! Upon parting ways w=
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element that electro-clash has played on the dance music circuit this last y=
ear=20
especially Keoki continues to ride the cutting edge trends of dance by=20
finding his home in this latest craze of dancefloor phenomenon. The party ne=
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w/ superstar DJ KEOKI! 10:00-11:15PM

KNOWLEDGE & JAMES MILLER JUNIOR (Columns of Knowledge Recordings,=20
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DJ PAULY (www.sympty.com, EMG, NY/PA)
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=20
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THE HOLY ROLLERZ aka Ralphie C & TJR (djralphiec.com : L.O.C : djtjr.com :=20
Communique Records UK)
The turntable terminators are back again to inflict damage on the dance=20
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because this night will be blessed by the preachers of Funky SKRATCH house!=20
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DONATO (Headzone Records, www.djdonato.com)
Donato was just recently signed to Headzone records (Germany), with plans fo=
r=20
a fully licensed mix CD to be released later this year. He also will be=20
working on various remixes and original productions in 2005. Be sure to catc=
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set of pumping energetic techno! 7:00-8:00PM

PAT FONTES (SATELLITE RECORDS BOSTON, TECHNO SLUTS 101)
Gaining massive pespect from the midwest techno scene, Pat is determined to=20
let people witness a proper techno set, bring ear plugs....dont say we didn'=
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warn you !!! file under : LOUD & BANGIN TECHNO 5:00-6:00PM

CHRIS PATTISON (www.nexusartists.com, Flex VT)
Back once again for another round of nu skool break biz this old skool NE=20
favorite will return for a 2nd edition to kick off another sick engagement!=20
Co-owner of Nexus Artist Mgmt and one of the major forces in the VT scene!=20
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PRIME (illusions/Undrgrndlbz/Bassconnection nyc) vs. SOMA=20
(Audiophilerecordings.com/DPIM/UndergroundLabz, NYC)
Side by side pumpin' out the ill UK hard house these guys kick it in high=20
gear early!Also look out for plenty of free cds, shirts and stickers! 4:00-5=
:00PM


_____


UPSTAIRS: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON


"Room decorations by Transverse Network & Plus One"


DJ TEEBEE (Metalheadz / Prototype / Subtitles / Norway)

1st Columns of Knowledge performance!

DJ/producer Teebee spent ten years making his mark on the Norwegian drum 'n'=
=20
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 drum=20
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showed the world that Teebee could both play by jungle's rules and fuck with=
 them.=20
It was a departure from the UK's traditional pantheon of hip-hop and reggae=20
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=20
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18 label, as well as winning the "Best International Producer" award from=20
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Prototype, Juice, Creative Source, Moving Shadow, and many more, as well as=20=
releasing=20
several mysteriously haunting R&B-flavored drum 'n' bass bootlegs. A very=20
energetic performer who totally feeds off the crowd and gives back. 12:30-2:=
00AM

T.E.R.A.(Seishi & Dan Brantigan) ww.hoganinternational.com,=20
www.danbrantigan.com, www.maxxhaze.com)
For years now, Seishi has been the predominant crossover DJ in terms of=20
bridging live music with electronica, making his staple organic sounding,=20
intelligent drum'n'bass. Joining forces with trumpet player and producer Dan=
 Brantigan,=20
they create a psychedelic world of sound that transcends what a band & DJ ca=
n=20
do. T.E.R.A. has already done tour dates with LTJ Bukem, DJ Krush, Ming & FS=
,=20
the Disco Biscuits, & the New Deal. A true representation of originality &=20
creativity, you really gotta check these guys out. 9:00-10:00PM

HOWHARD (www.djhowhard.com, Hardmind, Versatile Groove Mgt, RaversOnly // Ne=
w=20
York)
The Pied Piper of Hardcore returns to with his sick blend of Hardcore, Hard=20
Techno, & Jungle and his uncanny ability to call the masses to the floor. ST=
EP=20
INTO THE PIT! 11:30-12:30AM

GIL-T (www.truecrew.com, The Legendary Asylum RIP, MA)
Old skool hip hop and mashup classic ragga and dnb make the flavas that pass=
=20
the Gil-T's day After opening his doors for years for us all the party you=20
must not sleep on the beats that make his mind flow on the daily. Support th=
e man=20
who supported us all! 10:00-10:45PM

FRANKUS (Way Of Life, Bananas Kru, JungleX, Clash Records)=20

SPECIAL DUBPLATE SET!

One Smash Hit on Clash Records overseas and releases the Bananas Label and=20
Footprints, he comes tonight with dubplates and original music, so be prepar=
ed=20
for some amen madness with a touch a hip-hop as this Frankus comes=20
to mash down the place! 10:45-11:30PM

ELIJAH (www.volumeproductions.com, RI)
Playing the nation, playing all styles, all in a days work for one of RI's=20
top rising djs! Progressive, trance, dnb, or breaks, house... almost anythin=
g=20
flows with little effort from these fingers! Witness one of the prime staple=
s of=20
NE work it proper! 6:00-7:00PM

LOXIAS (209 Productions, Essential Elements, NY)
Infamous for his tight techno grooves, party caravans to shows, and us-raves=
=20
postoholicisms be prepared for another great! 8:00-9:00PM

TRACATAK (ADAMRecordings.com/Vitus/THC) vs. MASSACRE (Undrgrnd Lbz,=20
BassConnection, IllusionsPro, NYC)

Special Hardcore Tag-Team

Prepare yourselfs as these long time buddies rupture youre spleens with thei=
r=20
chest pounding hardcore" 7:00-8:00PM

BLIND FAITH aka. ANDROMEDA & MARC PASTOR (EastCoastDnB.com/Inner Sense=20
Recordings/ISM USA)
Inner Sense represents dnb talents of beatown and western massiv... new=20
plates in the crates creates pressa to devastate! 10:00-11:00PM=20

GYLE (Transverse Network/WFCS/WRTC, www.transverse.cjb.net CT)
Performing house, techno, electro, and experimental rhythms through two=20
weekly college radio programs in CT, tonight Gyle will be hittin' hard with=20=
blends=20
of tech-house and tribal minimal. 4:00-5:00PM

HEATHCLIFF (Digital Entrapment, NYC)
This man delivers probably one of the industries hardest trance beats.=20
3:00-4:00PM


VENUE:
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LOCALE: Worcester, MA

AGE: ALL AGES - 21+ bar for those of age w/ ID

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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] review

ahh thats really unfortunate about the car,  and amazing ly you still had an awesome time.  shows about the quality of the fest.   unfortunateyl couldnt make it last yr.. ..but will DEF be there this yr as well.   im a pretty big goahead so i cant really miss it with a clear conscience.

these are some of the most unique and groundbreaking artists in the scene so it should be amazing.
and the chillout willbe top notch for sure.

of course trance has a HUGE global following.
ppl regularly travel hundreds and even thousands of miles for parties and fests.   there are approx. 50000-70000 psytrancers in israel! in japan, australia, germany, mexico, portugal scene is massive as well.

for example. . .voov in germany gets 20000 ppl!

anyways.   hope to see you there.

what music do you mostly listen to?  i happen to think psytrance in all its guises is the form of electronica with the most integrity.  and we throw the illest parties/gatherings :)
peace and light
-Zev


quoting:


id you go last year??  Maybe you'll remember my smashed up Civic by the small cabins by the lake?  I wasn't my best that weekend...very upset over the whole deer scenario and for the 1st day I didn't really come out of our cabin.  Was walking around by the 2nd day, but from no sleep, I was exhausted....and it was quite hilly up there.

Was it me, or was that area SUPER rednecky??  We got lost going home and stopped to ask some guy for directions, he ha no teeth and was speaking complete jibberish...I'll DEF go again.

Gtown685@aol.com wrote:
www.omnidancefestival.info

this one should be amazing. same location. 

all amazing international artists. local dj picks are ill as well. 





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Heh heh, you said "riding ass."


On 4/26/04 11:07 AM, "t-bone@acidgrave.com" <t-bone@acidgrave.com> wrote:

> I feel fine and I'm not misreading anything.  For all the things to talk
> about,
> complaining numerous times that someone's writing style is boring is lame.
> THis isn't an English class, and those who are not confident in their writing
> skills may decide not to share them.  Talk about something else.  Matt-
> where's
> your review of the last party you threw?  I'm sure it will be rife with
> emotion
> and mind bolowing analogies.  I bet you could even do it in sonnet form :P :P
> :P
> 
> t-bone
> 
> Quoting Matthew Moran <matt@thingstocome.com>:
>> Seriously t-bone, looks like someone woke up on the wrong side of the
>> glowstick today.
>> 
>> Hahahaha.
>> 
>> Personally, when I do reviews, I like people to feel like they are going to
>> die (or vomit).
>> 
>> --matt
>> 
>> 
>> On 4/26/04 10:50 AM, "kelly d" <supapimpny@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> hehe - sorry youre reading my posts wrong, but Im not riding someones
>> ass...I
>>> just asked for a lil more explaination, thats all.  A little more
>> feeling...if
>>> thats riding someones ass in your book, I'd hate to come across you in NYC.
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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] reviewer harshness

that moved me- seriously. what part i cannot say though.

Here's my contribution:

Breaking up grrl fights sucks ass
Bouncers stole my beer
Been kicked out of club 8 times

t-bone

p.s. i DID wake up on the wrong side of the floor a few days ago and found
myself making love to the dustbunnies. Yum!

Quoting Matthew Moran <matt@thingstocome.com>:

>
> Review of my last party in freeform haiku:
>
> I hate the knitting factory.
> They can suck my dick.
> I can't wait to find a new venue.
>
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That is beautiful!!!!

I would add to that:

Bouncers think they are cool.
They are just fat.
Riding ass.






On 4/26/04 11:15 AM, "t-bone@acidgrave.com" <t-bone@acidgrave.com> wrote:

> that moved me- seriously. what part i cannot say though.
> 
> Here's my contribution:
> 
> Breaking up grrl fights sucks ass
> Bouncers stole my beer
> Been kicked out of club 8 times
> 
> t-bone
> 
> p.s. i DID wake up on the wrong side of the floor a few days ago and found
> myself making love to the dustbunnies. Yum!
> 
> Quoting Matthew Moran <matt@thingstocome.com>:
> 
>> 
>> Review of my last party in freeform haiku:
>> 
>> I hate the knitting factory.
>> They can suck my dick.
>> I can't wait to find a new venue.
>> 
>> 
>> --matt
>> \
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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] reviewer harshness

I sure did.  Looks like Hooked on Phonics worked for you!

*sings* c'mon ride it, my pony.....

t-bone

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> Heh heh, you said "riding ass."

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Indeed.

:)



On 4/26/04 11:18 AM, "t-bone@acidgrave.com" <t-bone@acidgrave.com> wrote:

> I sure did.  Looks like Hooked on Phonics worked for you!
> 
> *sings* c'mon ride it, my pony.....
> 
> t-bone
> 
> Quoting Matthew Moran <matt@thingstocome.com>:
>> 
>> Heh heh, you said "riding ass."
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haikus rock.

you all get gold stars


http://imprint.uwaterloo.ca/images/20030829/sexed_goldstar_papercamp.jpg


--- Matthew Moran <matt@thingstocome.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> That is beautiful!!!!
> 
> I would add to that:
> 
> Bouncers think they are cool.
> They are just fat.
> Riding ass.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 4/26/04 11:15 AM, "t-bone@acidgrave.com"
> <t-bone@acidgrave.com> wrote:
> 
> > that moved me- seriously. what part i cannot say
> though.
> > 
> > Here's my contribution:
> > 
> > Breaking up grrl fights sucks ass
> > Bouncers stole my beer
> > Been kicked out of club 8 times
> > 
> > t-bone
> > 
> > p.s. i DID wake up on the wrong side of the floor
> a few days ago and found
> > myself making love to the dustbunnies. Yum!
> > 
> > Quoting Matthew Moran <matt@thingstocome.com>:
> > 
> >> 
> >> Review of my last party in freeform haiku:
> >> 
> >> I hate the knitting factory.
> >> They can suck my dick.
> >> I can't wait to find a new venue.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> --matt
> >> \
> > 
> >
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I think that has to go down as BEST FREEFORM HAIKU EVER!  I look forward to
seeing it featured in the next Fukkital 'zine.

t-bone

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> I would add to that:
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It will be, along with your sonnet!

:)

--matt


On 4/26/04 11:34 AM, "t-bone@acidgrave.com" <t-bone@acidgrave.com> wrote:

> I think that has to go down as BEST FREEFORM HAIKU EVER!  I look forward to
> seeing it featured in the next Fukkital 'zine.
> 
> t-bone
> 
> Quoting Matthew Moran <matt@thingstocome.com>:
>> 
>> That is beautiful!!!!
>> 
>> I would add to that:
>> 
>> Bouncers think they are cool.
>> They are just fat.
>> Riding ass.
>> 
> 


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Subject: RE: [ne-raves] Net-Party

On Sun, 25 Apr 2004, Brennan, James PO (ACTNY) wrote:

> I would definitely be down to do something like this.  I would definitely
> volunteer for setting up and DJing

Heh... there's _never_ a shortage of DJs. Show of hands for planning,
permit applications, setup, clean-up? That's the sound of silence.

I want to cast the first vote for NYC. Not just because of my association
but because I think something bigger and better can be acomplished. I
think NER and NYC can collab on something decent instead of two separate
"eh" events. AFAIK nothing official has been done in NYC and it would be
especially meaningful with all the closings and legislation craziness
going on here. Been calling around some Chinatown dim-sum parlors because
I think it would be pretty cool to party and have dim-sum snacks. Costs
seem prohibitatively expensive at the moment but I think the manager got
the impression I was planning a banquet type deal. Not sure if they'd
just rent the space to us as a venue. Need to do more research. Also need
to look into some pretty cool picnic spaces in Brooklyn. Mayday in
Tompkins Sq. Park is coming up next Sunday and has always been a city
favorite that goes on without a hitch so I know this thing isn't entirely
impossible. Will have to hit up the Blackkat boyz for details and
suggestions. Anyone particularly close with Jason here? -- Lowkey, T-bone?

Couple of years ago a couple of us got an official permit and did a party
right on the Jersey City piers looking across to downtown NYC. Was
_amazing_ although not many showed up. Pier was hooked up with power too
so we didn't need to use a genny :)

I'm willing to do most (all) of the leg work in NYC if people are up for
it. I'll try to drum up responses and suggestions from club owners from a
list (Taverners United For Fairness) I'm on as well as Legalize Dancing
NYC.  Maybe they'd be sympathetic and hook us up with a spot.

Jasper

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Anyone looking for help organizing free events...us here at Kind
Recordings are always looking to support the scene.  We are having a
free outdoor event at Flushing Meadows Park on June 27th......  details
to follow.

Peace

Thomas Grossmann
Operations Manager
Kind Audio/Video
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516-996-2581
 
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KindKidz Records
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On Sun, 25 Apr 2004, Brennan, James PO (ACTNY) wrote:

> I would definitely be down to do something like this.  I would
definitely
> volunteer for setting up and DJing

Heh... there's _never_ a shortage of DJs. Show of hands for planning,
permit applications, setup, clean-up? That's the sound of silence.

I want to cast the first vote for NYC. Not just because of my
association
but because I think something bigger and better can be acomplished. I
think NER and NYC can collab on something decent instead of two separate
"eh" events. AFAIK nothing official has been done in NYC and it would be
especially meaningful with all the closings and legislation craziness
going on here. Been calling around some Chinatown dim-sum parlors
because
I think it would be pretty cool to party and have dim-sum snacks. Costs
seem prohibitatively expensive at the moment but I think the manager got
the impression I was planning a banquet type deal. Not sure if they'd
just rent the space to us as a venue. Need to do more research. Also
need
to look into some pretty cool picnic spaces in Brooklyn. Mayday in
Tompkins Sq. Park is coming up next Sunday and has always been a city
favorite that goes on without a hitch so I know this thing isn't
entirely
impossible. Will have to hit up the Blackkat boyz for details and
suggestions. Anyone particularly close with Jason here? -- Lowkey,
T-bone?

Couple of years ago a couple of us got an official permit and did a
party
right on the Jersey City piers looking across to downtown NYC. Was
_amazing_ although not many showed up. Pier was hooked up with power too
so we didn't need to use a genny :)

I'm willing to do most (all) of the leg work in NYC if people are up for
it. I'll try to drum up responses and suggestions from club owners from
a
list (Taverners United For Fairness) I'm on as well as Legalize Dancing
NYC.  Maybe they'd be sympathetic and hook us up with a spot.

Jasper

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So, were you at the Phoenix Landing last
Sunday?

:-P
heather

t-bone@acidgrave.com wrote:
> that moved me- seriously. what part i cannot say though.
> 
> Here's my contribution:
> 
> Breaking up grrl fights sucks ass
> Bouncers stole my beer
> Been kicked out of club 8 times


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Subject: RE: [ne-raves] Net-Party

Quoting Jasper Lin <jasper@hyperreal.org>:

> Heh... there's _never_ a shortage of DJs. Show of hands for planning,
> permit applications, setup, clean-up? That's the sound of silence.

     Why bother with any of this?  Didn't Skinner just drop the "house" excuse
for not being able to do anything?  I'm inclined to say we just misunderstood
him and that he was really volunteering his house for the party. :p

--
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You must admit that you mimic the weaklings.
The trend is dead!" -- Pantera

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Subject: [ne-raves] .: Dirtbox DNB Archives : 4/11, 4/17, 4/18 : 16 Live Sets! :.


Finally got the sets from the last couple weeks up, from 4/11, 4/17
(dirtbox 2 year partay), and 4/18.  The sets from upstairs at the 2 year
didn't come out too well - clipped to hell - so I'm gonna see if i can
possibly salvage them before putting them up.

Anywho, have fun downloading:)

/me waves goodbye to his bandwidth...

>> 4/11

ODJ & Jerel:
http://dirtboxradio.com/DirtboxRadio-20040411-1-ODJ+Jerel.ram
http://dirtboxradio.com/mp3/DirtboxRadio-20040411-1-ODJ+Jerel.mp3

Nature & Deinfamous:
http://dirtboxradio.com/DirtboxRadio-20040411-2-Nature+Deinfamous.ram
http://dirtboxradio.com/mp3/DirtboxRadio-20040411-2-Nature+Deinfamous.mp3

DJ Pick:
http://dirtboxradio.com/DirtboxRadio-20040411-3-DJ_Pick.ram
http://dirtboxradio.com/mp3/DirtboxRadio-20040411-3-DJ_Pick.mp3

SeaBass:
http://dirtboxradio.com/DirtboxRadio-20040411-4-SeaBass.ram
http://dirtboxradio.com/mp3/DirtboxRadio-20040411-4-SeaBass.mp3

Jerel:
http://dirtboxradio.com/DirtboxRadio-20040411-5-Jerel.ram
http://dirtboxradio.com/mp3/DirtboxRadio-20040411-5-Jerel.mp3

ODJ:
http://dirtboxradio.com/DirtboxRadio-20040411-6-ODJ.ram
http://dirtboxradio.com/mp3/DirtboxRadio-20040411-6-ODJ.mp3

>> 4/17

Don Vega & Just Charlie:
http://dirtboxradio.com/DirtboxRadio-20040417-1-Don_Vega+Just_Charlie.ram
http://dirtboxradio.com/mp3/DirtboxRadio-20040417-1-Don_Vega+Just_Charlie.mp3

Brian Arse:
http://dirtboxradio.com/DirtboxRadio-20040417-2-Brian_Arse.ram
http://dirtboxradio.com/mp3/DirtboxRadio-20040417-2-Brian_Arse.mp3

Bizar:
http://dirtboxradio.com/DirtboxRadio-20040417-3-Bizar.ram
http://dirtboxradio.com/mp3/DirtboxRadio-20040417-3-Bizar.mp3

ODJ & Jerel:
http://dirtboxradio.com/DirtboxRadio-20040417-4-ODJ+Jerel.ram
http://dirtboxradio.com/mp3/DirtboxRadio-20040417-4-ODJ+Jerel.mp3

Robot Death Squad:
http://dirtboxradio.com/DirtboxRadio-20040417-6-Hooligan+Shade.ram
http://dirtboxradio.com/mp3/DirtboxRadio-20040417-5-Robot_Death_Squad.mp3

Hooligan & Shade:
http://dirtboxradio.com/DirtboxRadio-20040417-6-Hooligan+Shade.ram
http://dirtboxradio.com/mp3/DirtboxRadio-20040417-6-Hooligan+Shade.mp3

Ransom:
http://dirtboxradio.com/DirtboxRadio-20040417-7-Ransom.ram
http://dirtboxradio.com/mp3/DirtboxRadio-20040417-7-Ransom.mp3

Stamina:
http://dirtboxradio.com/DirtboxRadio-20040417-8-Stamina.ram
http://dirtboxradio.com/mp3/DirtboxRadio-20040417-8-Stamina.mp3

Psykofly:
http://dirtboxradio.com/DirtboxRadio-20040417-9-Psykofly+Deinfamous.ram
http://dirtboxradio.com/mp3/DirtboxRadio-20040417-9-Psykofly+Deinfamous.mp3

>> 4/18

ODJ:
http://dirtboxradio.com/DirtboxRadio-20040418-ODJ.ram
http://dirtboxradio.com/mp3/DirtboxRadio-20040418-ODJ.mp3

>> Bonus

Vid of muh Jetta:
http://glue.umd.edu/~odjallen/springnote.wmv

Oh, and don't forget that archives are not avaiable during our live
broadcasts :)

Ez!

Jackson aka ODJ

Partners in Crime, www.DirtboxRadio.com, Trividual Productions, ALIAS

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Subject: [ne-raves] 04.29 :: LOUDER THAN BOMBS : ALIAS@Nation : DnB+Breaks : OPEN BAR


* Get on the $4 VIP list! -- info at bottom of this email...


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anyone ever heard of bethlehem or allentown PA? because last year or 
something the government passed a thing to make dancing after midnight 
illegal. some old crusty jealous ass politician made that senior 
disfunctional closed minded citizen crap up. it just didnt fly. it kinda 
like got flushed down the toilet like a no drinking beer law would. this is 
where i live by the way, and to anyone else who lives in the lehigh valley, 
wait till you are 20 and then move because only then can you know the extent 
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I am originally from Bethlehem. I moved when I was 18. Now that I don't live
there, I like visiting but when I lived there, basically I wanted to kill
myself.

You may have heard of the cabaret law in NYC though that makes it illegal to
dance anywhere that doesn't have a permit for it. So there is still stupid
laws even in supposedly more culturally aware places. The bar down the
street from me in Brooklyn was fined 10,000 dollars and had to shutdown
because people were dancing there.

Anyway, yeah, I feel for you living there haha.

---matt


On 4/27/04 8:32 AM, "Todd x" <chokken@hotmail.com> wrote:

> anyone ever heard of bethlehem or allentown PA? because last year or
> something the government passed a thing to make dancing after midnight
> illegal. some old crusty jealous ass politician made that senior
> disfunctional closed minded citizen crap up. it just didnt fly. it kinda
> like got flushed down the toilet like a no drinking beer law would. this is
> where i live by the way, and to anyone else who lives in the lehigh valley,
> wait till you are 20 and then move because only then can you know the extent
> of the suck that exists here.
> 
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I thought they did away with the "caberet laws" recently?  But I thought
they replaced them with some stupid "nightlife permit" or something

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I am originally from Bethlehem. I moved when I was 18. Now that I don't
live
there, I like visiting but when I lived there, basically I wanted to
kill
myself.

You may have heard of the cabaret law in NYC though that makes it
illegal to
dance anywhere that doesn't have a permit for it. So there is still
stupid
laws even in supposedly more culturally aware places. The bar down the
street from me in Brooklyn was fined 10,000 dollars and had to shutdown
because people were dancing there.

Anyway, yeah, I feel for you living there haha.

---matt


On 4/27/04 8:32 AM, "Todd x" <chokken@hotmail.com> wrote:

> anyone ever heard of bethlehem or allentown PA? because last year or
> something the government passed a thing to make dancing after midnight
> illegal. some old crusty jealous ass politician made that senior
> disfunctional closed minded citizen crap up. it just didnt fly. it
kinda
> like got flushed down the toilet like a no drinking beer law would.
this is
> where i live by the way, and to anyone else who lives in the lehigh
valley,
> wait till you are 20 and then move because only then can you know the
extent
> of the suck that exists here.
> 
> _________________________________________________________________
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Spring
> Travel Guide! http://special.msn.com/local/springtravel.armx
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As far as I know, that is what they want to replace it with, but it hasn't
yet been replaced, as the bar down the street can attest to. hehe

---matt


On 4/27/04 10:41 AM, "Round-N-Round" <roundz@optonline.net> wrote:

> I thought they did away with the "caberet laws" recently?  But I thought
> they replaced them with some stupid "nightlife permit" or something
> 
> Thomas Grossmann
> Operations Manager
> Kind Audio/Video
> http://www.kindvideo.com
> 516-996-2581
> 
> [DJ Round-N-Round]
> Webmaster, Director of Marketing
> KindKidz Records
> 212-971-1053
> http://kindkidz.com
> http://kindradio.net
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 7:48 AM
> To: Todd x; ne-raves@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: [ne-raves] allentown
> 
> 
> I am originally from Bethlehem. I moved when I was 18. Now that I don't
> live
> there, I like visiting but when I lived there, basically I wanted to
> kill
> myself.
> 
> You may have heard of the cabaret law in NYC though that makes it
> illegal to
> dance anywhere that doesn't have a permit for it. So there is still
> stupid
> laws even in supposedly more culturally aware places. The bar down the
> street from me in Brooklyn was fined 10,000 dollars and had to shutdown
> because people were dancing there.
> 
> Anyway, yeah, I feel for you living there haha.
> 
> ---matt
> 
> 
> On 4/27/04 8:32 AM, "Todd x" <chokken@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> anyone ever heard of bethlehem or allentown PA? because last year or
>> something the government passed a thing to make dancing after midnight
>> illegal. some old crusty jealous ass politician made that senior
>> disfunctional closed minded citizen crap up. it just didnt fly. it
> kinda
>> like got flushed down the toilet like a no drinking beer law would.
> this is
>> where i live by the way, and to anyone else who lives in the lehigh
> valley,
>> wait till you are 20 and then move because only then can you know the
> extent
>> of the suck that exists here.
>> 
>> _________________________________________________________________
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> Spring
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On Tue, 27 Apr 2004, Round-N-Round wrote:

> I thought they did away with the "caberet laws" recently?  But I thought
> they replaced them with some stupid "nightlife permit" or something

Ok, no more conjecture and guessing guys...

Legalize Dancing
http://www.legalizedancingnyc.com/

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Theres a cute lil bar on Orchard St (NYC) called Swim that has amazing sushi (I dont personally eat it, but heard its the best)  There was a trance party there on Wednesday's but it kinda fell through due to promoter changes...so I don't know what they do on the weekends.  I believe that they have tables already set up there and the sound isn't that bad.  It's a couple of blocks away from the Orchard bar...cute spot - small, but cute.  Don't know how many people usually come to these netparties bc as I've said, I usually don't go due to distance.  The place can prob fit around 50 or so comfortably (there's alot of seating...not a huge dancing area...depends if youre looking for lounge or club... this would qualify as lounge).  Also, maybe Karma the hookah lounge...it has room to dance downstairs, comfortable seating as well, but  needs additional sound brought in if I remember correctly).
 
Also...there are alot of nice parks out on Long Island easily accessible through public trans...can check into them if people don't think LI is too far to travel....I know its not exactly a hub...but we have nice parks out here.
 
Depending on where the get together is, I'll try to help out.

Jasper Lin <jasper@hyperreal.org> wrote:
On Sun, 25 Apr 2004, Brennan, James PO (ACTNY) wrote:

> I would definitely be down to do something like this. I would definitely
> volunteer for setting up and DJing

Heh... there's _never_ a shortage of DJs. Show of hands for planning,
permit applications, setup, clean-up? That's the sound of silence.

I want to cast the first vote for NYC. Not just because of my association
but because I think something bigger and better can be acomplished. I
think NER and NYC can collab on something decent instead of two separate
"eh" events. AFAIK nothing official has been done in NYC and it would be
especially meaningful with all the closings and legislation craziness
going on here. Been calling around some Chinatown dim-sum parlors because
I think it would be pretty cool to party and have dim-sum snacks. Costs
seem prohibitatively expensive at the moment but I think the manager got
the impression I was planning a banquet type deal. Not sure if they'd
just rent the space to us as a venue. Need to do more research. Also need
to look into some pretty cool picnic spaces in Brooklyn. Mayday in
Tompkins Sq. Park is coming up next Sunday and has always been a city
favorite that goes on without a hitch so I know this thing isn't entirely
impossible. Will have to hit up the Blackkat boyz for details and
suggestions. Anyone particularly close with Jason here? -- Lowkey, T-bone?

Couple of years ago a couple of us got an official permit and did a party
right on the Jersey City piers looking across to downtown NYC. Was
_amazing_ although not many showed up. Pier was hooked up with power too
so we didn't need to use a genny :)

I'm willing to do most (all) of the leg work in NYC if people are up for
it. I'll try to drum up responses and suggestions from club owners from a
list (Taverners United For Fairness) I'm on as well as Legalize Dancing
NYC. Maybe they'd be sympathetic and hook us up with a spot.

Jasper

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Im from Allentown.. They tried to passed that no dancing law because of the 
hip-hop clubs having fights and shootings.. So they blame it on the dancing??  
Allentown went down hill long before they purposed this law anyway.

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anyone ever heard of bethlehem or allentown PA? because last year or 
something the government passed a thing to make dancing after midnight 
illegal. some old crusty jealous ass politician made that senior 
disfunctional closed minded citizen crap up. it just didnt fly. it kinda 
like got flushed down the toilet like a no drinking beer law would. this is 
where i live by the way, and to anyone else who lives in the lehigh valley, 
wait till you are 20 and then move because only then can you know the extent 
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We've done free day events on Long Island and were very successful.
Able to get 200 heads out....

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From: kelly d [mailto:supapimpny@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 11:34 AM
To: Jasper Lin; Brennan, James PO (ACTNY)
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Subject: RE: [ne-raves] Net-Party

Theres a cute lil bar on Orchard St (NYC) called Swim that has amazing
sushi (I dont personally eat it, but heard its the best)  There was a
trance party there on Wednesday's but it kinda fell through due to
promoter changes...so I don't know what they do on the weekends.  I
believe that they have tables already set up there and the sound isn't
that bad.  It's a couple of blocks away from the Orchard bar...cute spot
- small, but cute.  Don't know how many people usually come to these
netparties bc as I've said, I usually don't go due to distance.  The
place can prob fit around 50 or so comfortably (there's alot of
seating...not a huge dancing area...depends if youre looking for lounge
or club... this would qualify as lounge).  Also, maybe Karma the hookah
lounge...it has room to dance downstairs, comfortable seating as well,
but  needs additional sound brought in if I remember correctly).
 
Also...there are alot of nice parks out on Long Island easily accessible
through public trans...can check into them if people don't think LI is
too far to travel....I know its not exactly a hub...but we have nice
parks out here.
 
Depending on where the get together is, I'll try to help out.

Jasper Lin <jasper@hyperreal.org> wrote:
On Sun, 25 Apr 2004, Brennan, James PO (ACTNY) wrote:

> I would definitely be down to do something like this. I would
definitely
> volunteer for setting up and DJing

Heh... there's _never_ a shortage of DJs. Show of hands for planning,
permit applications, setup, clean-up? That's the sound of silence.

I want to cast the first vote for NYC. Not just because of my
association
but because I think something bigger and better can be acomplished. I
think NER and NYC can collab on something decent instead of two separate
"eh" events. AFAIK nothing official has been done in NYC and it would be
especially meaningful with all the closings and legislation craziness
going on here. Been calling around some Chinatown dim-sum parlors
because
I think it would be pretty cool to party and have dim-sum snacks. Costs
seem prohibitatively expensive at the moment but I think the manager got
the impression I was planning a banquet type deal. Not sure if they'd
just rent the space to us as a venue. Need to do more research. Also
need
to look into some pretty cool picnic spaces in Brooklyn. Mayday in
Tompkins Sq. Park is coming up next Sunday and has always been a city
favorite that goes on without a hitch so I know this thing isn't
entirely
impossible. Will have to hit up the Blackkat boyz for details and
suggestions. Anyone particularly close with Jason here? -- Lowkey,
T-bone?

Couple of years ago a couple of us got an official permit and did a
party
right on the Jersey City piers looking across to downtown NYC. Was
_amazing_ although not many showed up. Pier was hooked up with power too
so we didn't need to use a genny :)

I'm willing to do most (all) of the leg work in NYC if people are up for
it. I'll try to drum up responses and suggestions from club owners from
a
list (Taverners United For Fairness) I'm on as well as Legalize Dancing
NYC. Maybe they'd be sympathetic and hook us up with a spot.

Jasper

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--- Todd x <chokken@hotmail.com> wrote:

> wait till you are 20 and then move because only then can you know the extent 
> of the suck that exists here.

Or wait till your in your late 20's and move back =p. I Live in Willams
Township.. I just moved here after living for 28 years in the shadow of NYC. I
find that there is alot more entertaing things in the area. The club/rave
things gets tired after a while, you have to look more to life then just one
small aspect of your social life of why you want to move or be somewhere. You
also have to look to other alteratives many events have become pub parties
anway, and or moved to being day parties in the underground. There are so many
other townsships around that clubs can move too, they don't have to be down
town allentown.

Pretty soon there will be regular things going on in easton area, as I will be
doing lotsof day parties, and I am in the process of working with my relator on
closing in on a location for my pub. Granted we will be doing more hardcore
shows then anything else, but there will be some techno events.






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Congrats...but, alot of these people are from Philly to New England area...doesn't mean they want to travel an extra half hour or hour to get out to the island.  That was the reason for the inquiry.  I know that LI can pull heads...just wondering if people on this list are willing to travel.

Round-N-Round <roundz@optonline.net> wrote:We've done free day events on Long Island and were very successful.
Able to get 200 heads out....

Thomas Grossmann
Operations Manager
Kind Audio/Video
http://www.kindvideo.com
516-996-2581

[DJ Round-N-Round]
Webmaster, Director of Marketing
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212-971-1053
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http://kindradio.net


-----Original Message-----
From: kelly d [mailto:supapimpny@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 11:34 AM
To: Jasper Lin; Brennan, James PO (ACTNY)
Cc: ne-raves@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: [ne-raves] Net-Party

Theres a cute lil bar on Orchard St (NYC) called Swim that has amazing
sushi (I dont personally eat it, but heard its the best) There was a
trance party there on Wednesday's but it kinda fell through due to
promoter changes...so I don't know what they do on the weekends. I
believe that they have tables already set up there and the sound isn't
that bad. It's a couple of blocks away from the Orchard bar...cute spot
- small, but cute. Don't know how many people usually come to these
netparties bc as I've said, I usually don't go due to distance. The
place can prob fit around 50 or so comfortably (there's alot of
seating...not a huge dancing area...depends if youre looking for lounge
or club... this would qualify as lounge). Also, maybe Karma the hookah
lounge...it has room to dance downstairs, comfortable seating as well,
but needs additional sound brought in if I remember correctly).

Also...there are alot of nice parks out on Long Island easily accessible
through public trans...can check into them if people don't think LI is
too far to travel....I know its not exactly a hub...but we have nice
parks out here.

Depending on where the get together is, I'll try to help out.

Jasper Lin wrote:
On Sun, 25 Apr 2004, Brennan, James PO (ACTNY) wrote:

> I would definitely be down to do something like this. I would
definitely
> volunteer for setting up and DJing

Heh... there's _never_ a shortage of DJs. Show of hands for planning,
permit applications, setup, clean-up? That's the sound of silence.

I want to cast the first vote for NYC. Not just because of my
association
but because I think something bigger and better can be acomplished. I
think NER and NYC can collab on something decent instead of two separate
"eh" events. AFAIK nothing official has been done in NYC and it would be
especially meaningful with all the closings and legislation craziness
going on here. Been calling around some Chinatown dim-sum parlors
because
I think it would be pretty cool to party and have dim-sum snacks. Costs
seem prohibitatively expensive at the moment but I think the manager got
the impression I was planning a banquet type deal. Not sure if they'd
just rent the space to us as a venue. Need to do more research. Also
need
to look into some pretty cool picnic spaces in Brooklyn. Mayday in
Tompkins Sq. Park is coming up next Sunday and has always been a city
favorite that goes on without a hitch so I know this thing isn't
entirely
impossible. Will have to hit up the Blackkat boyz for details and
suggestions. Anyone particularly close with Jason here? -- Lowkey,
T-bone?

Couple of years ago a couple of us got an official permit and did a
party
right on the Jersey City piers looking across to downtown NYC. Was
_amazing_ although not many showed up. Pier was hooked up with power too
so we didn't need to use a genny :)

I'm willing to do most (all) of the leg work in NYC if people are up for
it. I'll try to drum up responses and suggestions from club owners from
a
list (Taverners United For Fairness) I'm on as well as Legalize Dancing
NYC. Maybe they'd be sympathetic and hook us up with a spot.

Jasper

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It's also living in a place where the mentality is to ban relational
activties in order to solve social problems.  If they aren't willing to
deal with social problems, or prefer to allow them to continue and put up
a smoke screen by saying we are trying to solve the issue by banning
<insert activity> how can they provide leadership and management required
of a governing body?  If they can't deal with these issues they
probably also can't keep a vital economy, upkeep public infrastructure or
deal with other issues that will affect the quality of life of residents.
And from what I hear from those who live in Allentown that is obvious.  And there's
a saying that local governments have said for a long time, what is good
for the city is good for the county.  If Allentown is failing so will the
surrounding areas.

I'll stick to supporting areas where there is quality leadership and
residents that are capable of electing capable leadership.

KeNNy!

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> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 10:50:54 -0700 (PDT)
> From: The Ted Nugent of Techno <skinner@hyperreal.org>
> To: ne-raves@hyperreal.org
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>
>
> --- Todd x <chokken@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > wait till you are 20 and then move because only then can you know the extent
> > of the suck that exists here.
>
> Or wait till your in your late 20's and move back =p. I Live in Willams
> Township.. I just moved here after living for 28 years in the shadow of NYC. I
> find that there is alot more entertaing things in the area. The club/rave
> things gets tired after a while, you have to look more to life then just one
> small aspect of your social life of why you want to move or be somewhere. You
> also have to look to other alteratives many events have become pub parties
> anway, and or moved to being day parties in the underground. There are so many
> other townsships around that clubs can move too, they don't have to be down
> town allentown.
>
> Pretty soon there will be regular things going on in easton area, as I will be
> doing lotsof day parties, and I am in the process of working with my relator on
> closing in on a location for my pub. Granted we will be doing more hardcore
> shows then anything else, but there will be some techno events.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--- KaNdE KiD KeNNy! <kenny@orwell.lost-angel.com> wrote:
> 
> It's also living in a place where the mentality is to ban relational
> activties in order to solve social problems. 

Fights at clubs withing a subculture are far from any social issue from the
area.
I lived in a much worse area, and there were less fights and the social
problems were much much worse. It's a fucking club dealing to a subculture,
this NOT a sample of the population to base social problems on and I will stake
my Masters in Sociology on that! (5/21)







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So, has banning dancing solved violence problems within the community?

KeNNy!

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> To: KaNdE KiD KeNNy! <kenny@orwell.lost-angel.com>, ne-raves@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: [ne-raves] allentown
>
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> --- KaNdE KiD KeNNy! <kenny@orwell.lost-angel.com> wrote:
> >
> > It's also living in a place where the mentality is to ban relational
> > activties in order to solve social problems.
>
> Fights at clubs withing a subculture are far from any social issue from the
> area.
> I lived in a much worse area, and there were less fights and the social
> problems were much much worse. It's a fucking club dealing to a subculture,
> this NOT a sample of the population to base social problems on and I will stake
> my Masters in Sociology on that! (5/21)
>
>
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--- KaNdE KiD KeNNy! <kenny@orwell.lost-angel.com> wrote:
> 
> So, has banning dancing solved violence problems within the community?

The issue is the clubs not the community. Many clubs have violence and the
communitys are Normal Rockewell Paintings. Yes the violence in some area's
rolls over into social environments, at the same time it dosent in some more
violent areas, like east orange NJ which is about 800X worse then allentown.
Point is, it's the gathering of youth, in an environment espically many places
where liq and attitudes are pushed. So yes, banning it, removes a bad element.
Those who really care about some subculture will go off and do their own thing
else where.  




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But it has done nothing to address the issue of violence.  I will agree
that if someone puts a club in a plce where it will conflict with
residents it will run into problems.  However, that only involves a few
individual clubs/bar/whatever.  Most places already have laws to rememedy
those unique cases.  However, you still are not solving the violence issue
by banning dancing.

KeNNy!

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> Subject: Re: [ne-raves] allentown
>
>
> --- KaNdE KiD KeNNy! <kenny@orwell.lost-angel.com> wrote:
> >
> > So, has banning dancing solved violence problems within the community?
>
> The issue is the clubs not the community. Many clubs have violence and the
> communitys are Normal Rockewell Paintings. Yes the violence in some area's
> rolls over into social environments, at the same time it dosent in some more
> violent areas, like east orange NJ which is about 800X worse then allentown.
> Point is, it's the gathering of youth, in an environment espically many places
> where liq and attitudes are pushed. So yes, banning it, removes a bad element.
> Those who really care about some subculture will go off and do their own thing
> else where.
>
>
>
>
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--- KaNdE KiD KeNNy! <kenny@orwell.lost-angel.com> wrote:
> 
> But it has done nothing to address the issue of violence.  I will agree
> that if someone puts a club in a plce where it will conflict with
> residents it will run into problems.  However, that only involves a few
> individual clubs/bar/whatever.  Most places already have laws to rememedy
> those unique cases.  However, you still are not solving the violence issue
> by banning dancing.


Who is to say that the violence at the clubs is rooted in the problems in the
community? Clubs over the last 15 years that I have gone out have always had
issues. Thats one of the many reasons why some of original people started
rave in the NYC area back in the day.

But just to entertain something, has issues but is far from even close to the
urban wasteland I grew-up in and around. If violence is stemming over from the
community like a painkiller its good to squelch certain surface pain
(conflicts) till something at the root level can be done. I personally live by
the concept that if you do something bad something should be taken away.
Weather or not the problem is in the community, the hip-hop clubs have been a
constant problem, then they should take away dancing to get ride of the
problem. The violence still go on in the community, but statistically its
show, that heightened violence occurs more when you have various factions of
people in groups together, then when you have isolated individuals.

So banning dancing is something they can do within their legal means, since
many places have cabaret laws from the 20s speakeasy days. Where I do have a
problem with banning dancing is when its done for a fiscal reason, and the
desire to make sure only the people who can pay, can have such a club.



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April 26, 2004


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Dear List Members:

Please excuse Skinner this week, as for he has many things to take care of and
responsibilities to fullfill.  I'm assured that once wonderful and important
matters are resolved, he will be able to contribute in a rational and cohesive
manner.  Thank you very much for your anticipated tolerance, cooperation, and
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PLUR
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Subject: [ne-raves] Rave callendar

   If anyone's looking for info on upcoming events, I
would recommend www.ravelinks.com  
The callendars are a great place to advertise and find
stuff happening in the Bay area, Boston, NYC, east
coast, west coast, LA etc...


Now that you have this information....DON'T SEND OUT:
"hi...i, like....live in this town.....and im
like....15....dood....in Ithaca..looking for a place
to hang....raves.....can you help me?"




P.S. RIP Asylum...Amen
P.S.S. The rippiest line up in the world that I would
pay MUCHO $$$ to get in to would be: Astral
Projection, trance[]control, Infected Mushroom,
Sphongle, Yahel, Man With No Name, Juno Reactor
(hint, hint promotors)


	
		
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Subject: [ne-raves] Partys in Ithaca, Binghamton..

Well doood.... Im not like 15 more like 23 and who said anything about uhhh
raves... i want events. i think you should get off the acid or ecstasy your
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psytrance is going to take is taking over.  indeed.

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On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 t-bone@acidgrave.com wrote:

> Dear List Members:
>
> Please excuse Skinner this week, as for he has many things to take care of and
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> PLUR
> t-bone

Is Skinner in such a crazy way that he needs someone to pass along
messages to his lists? He ok? Is he dealing with that money pit situation?

BTW, I believe few would describe Skinner's contributions as rational or
cohesive. But that's why we like him, right?

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--- Jasper Lin <jasper@hyperreal.org> wrote:

> Is Skinner in such a crazy way that he needs someone to pass along
> messages to his lists? He ok? Is he dealing with that money pit situation?

Atually my house isn't a money pit... it only became one becuse when you take a
Skinner who is not only a Engineer but has OCPD.... the house turns into the
most insane update and renovation project... I can't just fix things and
update. I have to re do the entire electical becuse it has to be pefect to my
specs =p




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Subject: [ne-raves] Another Wrinkle in the MP3-downloads game

www.allofmp3.com

a russian site offering downloads at a metered rate
per MB. they store tracks and albums in an
uncompressed form, you request an mp3/ogg in whatever
bitrate you desire, they transfer the tunes to you at
$.05 USD/MB.

I was wondering when someone would take the game
offshore.


thanks to el reg for the heads up... to quote, "caveat
emptor, indeed..."


-WVX


	
		
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Subject: [ne-raves] 04.29 :: LOUDER THAN BOMBS : ALIAS@Nation : DnB+Breaks : OPEN BAR


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Read this on another list.  Fucked up shit. Anyone know who Scotto is?

KeNNy!

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>
>
>http://www.knottyknotty.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=3D22569&postdays=3D0&pos=
torder=3Dasc&start=3D75
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>
>---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
>Subject: NASA what really happend
>From:    db@breakbeatscience.com
>Date:    Fri, April 23, 2004 10:39 pm
>
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>
>This is what happened.
>
>Two years ago Scotto (aka Scott Osman, self proclaimed lighting
>genius) called me and asked if I wanted to do a NASA 10 year anniversary
>party. I asked if he had a venue, and he said no but would find one.
>
>A year later he called again and asked the same thing and I asked if he
>had a venue. No, he said, but he would find one.
>
>6 months ago still nothing had happened, so I approached Mike Bindra at
>Arc, which is the site of the original club, the Shelter, which held NASA.
>
>Mike said that he was interested and that we should just simply rent the
>club from him. I explained that I was pretty sure that Scotto would not
>have any money & I was not really comfortable putting up the whole thing,
>especially as I didn=E2=80=99t have regular income from a record company j=
ob to
>support me. Mike came up with a deal - he would pay all the up front
>expenses and costs & then give Scotto and me a 40% split of the door
>receipts after all expenses were paid back.
>
>We agreed and Scotto and I started to organize things. Scotto was given a
>contract to sign by the club. I didn=E2=80=99t want to sign it because I d=
id not
>have a LLC (limited liability company) to protect me if something went
>wrong, and Scotto has a company called Drop. Scotto and Arc kept sending
>the contract back and forth, negotiating details, till it was finally
>signed.
>
>Within minutes of signing Scotto was breaching the contract by selling
>tickets through a ticket outlet not approved by Arc, Ticket Leap. We were
>informed that those names on will call through Ticket Leap would not be
>honored unless Scotto produced all the ticket money before the event.
>Scotto told me not to worry.
>
>Now, because the contract had been breached Arc would not give us money in
>advance to pay for flyers and flights for djs, so I advanced us about
>$2000, stressing to Scotto that I was nervous about doing this. Scotto
>told me again not to worry.
>
>On April 3rd, the day of the party, Mike & his lawyer called me at home,
>saying that they were definitely not going to honor the (now 1100) advance
>ticket names unless we gave Arc cash or a certified check for the amount
>of the online ticket sales. When I talked to Scotto he said that Ticket
>Leap was bringing a check up from Philly. Scotto said that the check
>wasn=E2=80=99t certified but that the contract did not say it needed to be=
=2E
>
>Arc refused to accept a check 1) from an out of state company that they
>did not know, 2) that was made out to Scotto who did not have a bank
>account, and then signed over to them by him.
>
>Wini, my wife, and I talked and we both agreed that I simply could not let
>over 1100 people arrive at an event that was produced by me and be told
>that they could not get in with the ticket they had bought. I knew some
>people had driven from as far as Florida; I just felt I had no choice. At
>9.00 pm, with a line at the door, I did a wire transfer of $10,000 from
>our personal savings account into the Arc account. This was to be security
>until the Ticket Leap check, endorsed by Scotto to Arc, had cleared.
>
>Scotto was furious with me for doing this, saying I had undermined his
>"plan" (which I knew nothing of) for renegotiating our deal because of the
>chaos that would ensue at the door.
>
>The party itself was an incredible success, I saw people who I had not
>seen for 12 years, and I even saw some crying they were so happy. As a
>favor to me, Moby came down and spun for half an hour as a surprise guest.
>There were over 2000 people there.
>
>At the end of the night (8.00am) we all tried to figure out how much money
>was made and what the split should be. We were all too tired, so we were
>to get together on the following Monday.
>
>On Monday the club called me to say that Scotto needed to present the
>Ticket Leap check that he had endorsed at the bank in person for it to be
>deposited - this was the check that the $10,000 wire of my personal
>savings was security for.
>
>Scotto then told me that he was not happy with our split and we should get
>much more of the door.
>
>The next thing he did was tell Ticket Leap to cancel the check. By now I
>was getting very worried- I knew the club was not going to give me back my
>deposit until all the money was accounted for. Scotto then started getting
>more and more maniacal, talking about getting 100% of the door, and
>wanting to sue the club because they tried to steal his mailing list.
>
>I was getting desperate; it was looking like he was not going to let the
>club have the ticket money.
>
>On the Wednesday & Thursday of that week I tried emailing & calling Scotto
>several times to no avail. On Saturday Scotto's brother Brooks called me
>to say that their father had given him instructions to call me on Scotto=
=E2=80=99s
>behalf, to let me know Scotto was in jail on some kind of driving offence.
>I asked Brooks if he knew what had been going between Scotto, the club &
>me. He was quite clear about saying =E2=80=9CNo & he did not want to know=
=E2=80=9D.
>
>Mike, now so sick of Scotto, decided that they would cut their losses,
>keep my $10,000 and only be out a couple of grand from what their split
>should have been.
>
>When I finally talked to Scotto it was Monday, and he did not want to tell
>mewhy he had been locked up for 4 days.
>
>So Scotto had $24,000 from Ticket Leap. He told me that he thought that
>legally he did not have to give me back the money I had spent, but
>ethically he would do the right thing. Within 24 hours of saying that, he
>changed his mind and told me I should sue the club for the money.
>
>I tried to make him understand that if this went to court that the lawyers
>would quickly use up any money.
>
>Scotto then told me he had another scheme, he was going to sue the club
>for $750,000, explaining that he was going to get Mike Bindra to settle
>out of court, because he had video footage of Arc selling liquor after
>hours and that Mike couldn=E2=80=99t afford to let this footage be seen be=
cause he
>would go to jail.
>
>Now it is 10 days after the event.
>
>With one last desperate attempt to end this, I emailed Scottos parents in
>Philly, which was where I knew he was staying. He was planning on having
>the money from Ticket Leap transferred into his father=E2=80=99s bank acco=
unt. I
>pleaded with his parents to show compassion & to wire me back my share,
>thus avoiding any legal action that might now even involve them if they
>were holding the money. I explained that this was our savings & that we
>have a 3-year-old son to worry about.
>
>I was offering to just take only the money (12K) I had laid out and walk
>away, adding that any future money Scotto got from the club would be his.
>He could look at it as paying me back my outlay, or 50% of the ticket
>money that he had. Though in fact, he owed me all $12,000 and then fifty
>percent of any profit from our 40% split. Now I just wanted back the money
>I had spent out of pocket.
>
>Either Scotto intercepted the email or his father just didn=E2=80=99t want=
 to deal
>with it.
>
>I called Ticket Leap to find out if Scotto had got the money from them.
>Scotto then left me one last angry message, saying I had interfered with
>his business again and the ticket company had frozen the money for 30
>days, fearful of being sued, he also told me not to threaten his father.
>
>On April 19th, I finally called a lawyer; he found out from Ticket leap
>that the money had been transferred last week. He then called Scotto and
>was told that I had not been his partner & I was owed nothing, that I was
>just one of the djs and I had volunteered my services free of
>charge.
>
>The lawyer basically explained to me that I=E2=80=99m fucked.  That it=E2=
=80=99s a really
>complicated 3 or even 4-way lawsuit (Scotto, Arc, Ticket Leap and myself).
>The money that is involved would very quickly be consumed and legal fees
>could easily run into thousands and thousands of dollars. As well as the
>fact that I would have to actually track him down in Pennsylvania to serve
>him papers.
>
>So here I am with nothing but my word & reputation, hoping to get some
>kind of peace of mind by telling people in our world the truth about what
>happened.
>
>DB   April 21, 2004


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--- KaNdE KiD KeNNy! <kenny@orwell.lost-angel.com> wrote:
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> Read this on another list.  Fucked up shit. Anyone know who Scotto is?
> 
> KeNNy!


Scotto got beat up by Temper Tantrum from Industrail Strength back about 8
years or so becuyse scotto tried to steal and say some of their equipment was
his. Bad mistake rob of TT beat the crap out of him, and there was about a few
dozen more of us ISR people lurking around.


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ALL GOOD FUNK ALLIANCE: Frank Cueto and Rusty Belicek [ www.funkweapons.com
| Aroma Recordings | DC ] [breaks]
SPIGGY [ Sovereign State | DC ] [nü wave 80ıs | electro | retrotechno]

SPECIAL DANCE PERFORMANCE BY THE CüBIK DANCE CREW: D.W.A
___________

COMING THIS SUMMER:
05.07 - ADAM FREELAND, RENNIE PILGREM
05.14 - INFECTED MUSHROOM-LIVE | DJ ICEY | SCOTT HENRY
05.22 - The HFSTIVAL BUZZ TENT
05.30 - DJ DAN
06.04 - PLANET OF THE DRUMS: DIESLEBOY|DARA|AK1200
06.11 - RICHIE HAWTIN, MAGDA
07.23 - MISS KITTIN

______________________________

ADMISSION:
$10 for Buzz members until 12 midnight
$15 General admission before 11 p.m.
$20 General admission after 11 p.m.

For information on how to become a Buzz member at no charge, visit:
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______________________________
All events are 18 & over w/ proper, gov't-issued, photo ID
Regular hours: 9 p.m. - 4 a.m. | OPEN BAR from 9 p.m. - 10 p.m.

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This Scotto sounds like a real stand up kind of guy

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> Read this on another list.  Fucked up shit. Anyone know who Scotto is?
> 
> KeNNy!


Scotto got beat up by Temper Tantrum from Industrail Strength back about 8
years or so becuyse scotto tried to steal and say some of their equipment
was
his. Bad mistake rob of TT beat the crap out of him, and there was about a
few
dozen more of us ISR people lurking around.


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Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Cübik:FRIDAY, April 30th 2004:PROM NIGHT|FEELGOOD|JOHN B|

hooray!

i'm on the prom court

maybe i'll win



--- Anne Aquino-Spicer <n2hrdnrg@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Cübik:FRIDAY, April 30th 2004:PROM
> NIGHT|FEELGOOD|JOHN B|
> 
> Every Friday at Nation
> Buzzlife presents Cübik:
> 
> ___________
> 
> Cübik:FRIDAY, April 30th 2004:PROM NIGHT
> Spring is right around the corner, and that means
> warmer weather, flowers
> blooming, toes wiggling, and PROM! Thatıs right,
> Buzzlife Productions is
> proud to announce our first annual Cubik Prom on
> April 30, complete with
> balloon arches, Polaroid pictures, and ­ drumroll
> please ­ our first Prom
> King and Queen! Goto
>
http://www.buzzlife.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34928
> for more info.
> 
> 
> 
> FEELGOOD [Buzz | System Recordings, LA]
> 
> "Charles Feelgood House Music" CD in stores now
> Charles Feelgood aka Charles Fields has earned a
> stellar reputation as a
> top-flight DJ in the international dance music
> community through his
> ingenious mixing skills and dynamic brand of funky
> disco house. Feelgood
> began his career in the late 80ıs and was co-founder
> of Fever in Baltimore.
> Feelgood has been names Baltimoreıs Best DJ and one
> of 50 top DJs in BPM
> Magazine. He spins anywhere from disco house to a
> cappella tracks to tech
> house.
> 
> JOHN B [Beta, Chihuahua, Tangent, Formation, MMI,
> UK]
> 
> A Cubik favorite returns! John B's style is hard to
> explain - and even
> harder to not dance to. If you havent caught one of
> his eclectic sets yet -
> donıt miss this week
> 
> BOBBY JAE [ dcdnb.org | DC ] [smooth drum nı bass]
> DJ VIRTUE [ SM crew | DC ] [breaks]
> ALL GOOD FUNK ALLIANCE: Frank Cueto and Rusty
> Belicek [ www.funkweapons.com
> | Aroma Recordings | DC ] [breaks]
> SPIGGY [ Sovereign State | DC ] [nü wave 80ıs |
> electro | retrotechno]
> 
> SPECIAL DANCE PERFORMANCE BY THE CüBIK DANCE CREW:
> D.W.A
> ___________
> 
> COMING THIS SUMMER:
> 05.07 - ADAM FREELAND, RENNIE PILGREM
> 05.14 - INFECTED MUSHROOM-LIVE | DJ ICEY | SCOTT
> HENRY
> 05.22 - The HFSTIVAL BUZZ TENT
> 05.30 - DJ DAN
> 06.04 - PLANET OF THE DRUMS: DIESLEBOY|DARA|AK1200
> 06.11 - RICHIE HAWTIN, MAGDA
> 07.23 - MISS KITTIN
> 
> ______________________________
> 
> ADMISSION:
> $10 for Buzz members until 12 midnight
> $15 General admission before 11 p.m.
> $20 General admission after 11 p.m.
> 
> For information on how to become a Buzz member at no
> charge, visit:
>
http://www.buzzlife.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21122
> 
> ______________________________
> All events are 18 & over w/ proper, gov't-issued,
> photo ID
> Regular hours: 9 p.m. - 4 a.m. | OPEN BAR from 9
> p.m. - 10 p.m.
> 
> CüBIK is every Friday at NATION
> 1015 Half St. SE, WDC
> WWW.BUZZLIFE.COM
> 
> 
> 
> 
> aim=shyann266
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> you'll ever learn
> is just to love
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Subject: [ne-raves] Dood with the "event" OCD

   Yeah, I was making fun of you. Yeah, you asked a
dumb question. Yeah, you should be grateful for
getting a reply back. Asking general questions like
that and expecting an answer is fallacious reasoning,
your reply is also a sure way to get people to turn
off to anything else you say...
   If you recall some of the general "rules" governing
this mailing list, one of them was to sit back and
observe what other people say before commenting if
you're new...
   Asking questions like "Does anyone know of any
events in Ithaca" is a dead end. I gave you a link,
and I don't know if you followed it
(www.ravelinks.com)...check it out and maybe you'll
find some answers. Look at the flyers in your local RC
store and get the names of some promoters who tend to
turn up quite alot in your community. 
   The sad truth, however, is that most of our
communities are devoid of any substantial tribes or
going-ons. We have to travel to see what we want, do
what we want, and be free to dance and "make merry".
   As for the difference between "rave" and "event",
there really isnt one. "Event" may imply larger
gathering, "rave" may imply 'taboo small underground
gathering'. But the fact of the matter is that all of
us here are part, or have an interest, in Rave Culture
and music...so no one really gives a shit as to what
terminology you use. We don't have to be underground
and secretive here...this is home.
   As for me dropping acid or popping xtasy before
reading my email, that's absurd. I don't know whether
to take that as a hatred of all things "druggy"(and
hence, rave associated), or as a typical juvenile
comment..only one who is unsure of him/herself  would
need to prove a point with petty insults and bringing
age into play. And when it's all said and done...sorry
to say, but you sounded a hell of a lot like a 15 year
old, pre-pubescent candy wannabe jungle raver.

   But all of my feuds with you aside, seriously.
Chill out dude. Live life in the sloooow tense. Check
out your RC store or sketchy looking music store (not
hastings or barnes and noble obviously), get names,
research people. get carpools together. Go into the
BIG CITY. Or find a nice outdoor festival (ie: the
upcoming omni-dance festival) The only reason I'm
going rip-shit on you is life is soooooo booring
between raves and I have nothing else to do (other
than re-write my dissertation and keep all of my
aquariums in running order) during the interim.
   Oh yes, and as all the little gigglers and
methheaded baby ravers say while sucking pacifiers
diligently...
PLUR!!! PLUR!!!! PLUR!!!!


	
		
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Subject: [ne-raves] Bad stuff..

   Damn, this makes me REALLY ANGRY!!!! 10 years ago,
the
scene was much, much, healthier than this shit. I want
to do two things. 
A.)Round up a posse and go lynch this "Scotto" dude,
B.)Try and organize a relief fund for this dude who
just got fucked over...Im in no position to do either
of these...except the lynching. Any Ideas?






> >This is what happened.
> >
> >Two years ago Scotto (aka Scott Osman, self
> proclaimed lighting
> >genius) called me and asked if I wanted to do a
> NASA 10 year anniversary
> >party. I asked if he had a venue, and he said no
> but would find one.
> > 
> >A year later he called again and asked the same
> thing and I asked if he
> >had a venue. No, he said, but he would find one.
> >
> >6 months ago still nothing had happened, so I
> approached Mike Bindra at
> >Arc, which is the site of the original club, the
> Shelter, which held NASA.
> >
> >Mike said that he was interested and that we should
> just simply rent the
> >club from him. I explained that I was pretty sure
> that Scotto would not
> >have any money & I was not really comfortable
> putting up the whole thing,
> >especially as I didnât have regular income from a
> record company job to
> >support me. Mike came up with a deal - he would pay
> all the up front
> >expenses and costs & then give Scotto and me a 40%
> split of the door
> >receipts after all expenses were paid back.
> >
> >We agreed and Scotto and I started to organize
> things. Scotto was given a
> >contract to sign by the club. I didnât want to
> sign it because I did not
> >have a LLC (limited liability company) to protect
> me if something went
> >wrong, and Scotto has a company called Drop. Scotto
> and Arc kept sending
> >the contract back and forth, negotiating details,
> till it was finally
> >signed.
> >
> >Within minutes of signing Scotto was breaching the
> contract by selling
> >tickets through a ticket outlet not approved by
> Arc, Ticket Leap. We were
> >informed that those names on will call through
> Ticket Leap would not be
> >honored unless Scotto produced all the ticket money
> before the event.
> >Scotto told me not to worry.
> >
> >Now, because the contract had been breached Arc
> would not give us money in
> >advance to pay for flyers and flights for djs, so I
> advanced us about
> >$2000, stressing to Scotto that I was nervous about
> doing this. Scotto
> >told me again not to worry.
> >
> >On April 3rd, the day of the party, Mike & his
> lawyer called me at home,
> >saying that they were definitely not going to honor
> the (now 1100) advance
> >ticket names unless we gave Arc cash or a certified
> check for the amount
> >of the online ticket sales. When I talked to Scotto
> he said that Ticket
> >Leap was bringing a check up from Philly. Scotto
> said that the check
> >wasnât certified but that the contract did not
> say it needed to be.
> >
> >Arc refused to accept a check 1) from an out of
> state company that they
> >did not know, 2) that was made out to Scotto who
> did not have a bank
> >account, and then signed over to them by him.
> >
> >Wini, my wife, and I talked and we both agreed that
> I simply could not let
> >over 1100 people arrive at an event that was
> produced by me and be told
> >that they could not get in with the ticket they had
> bought. I knew some
> >people had driven from as far as Florida; I just
> felt I had no choice. At
> >9.00 pm, with a line at the door, I did a wire
> transfer of $10,000 from
> >our personal savings account into the Arc account.
> This was to be security
> >until the Ticket Leap check, endorsed by Scotto to
> Arc, had cleared.
> >
> >Scotto was furious with me for doing this, saying I
> had undermined his
> >"plan" (which I knew nothing of) for renegotiating
> our deal because of the
> >chaos that would ensue at the door.
> >
> >The party itself was an incredible success, I saw
> people who I had not
> >seen for 12 years, and I even saw some crying they
> were so happy. As a
> >favor to me, Moby came down and spun for half an
> hour as a surprise guest.
> >There were over 2000 people there.
> >
> >At the end of the night (8.00am) we all tried to
> figure out how much money
> >was made and what the split should be. We were all
> too tired, so we were
> >to get together on the following Monday.
> >
> >On Monday the club called me to say that Scotto
> needed to present the
> >Ticket Leap check that he had endorsed at the bank
> in person for it to be
> >deposited - this was the check that the $10,000
> wire of my personal
> >savings was security for.
> >
> >Scotto then told me that he was not happy with our
> split and we should get
> >much more of the door.
> >
> >The next thing he did was tell Ticket Leap to
> cancel the check. By now I
> >was getting very worried- I knew the club was not
> going to give me back my
> >deposit until all the money was accounted for.
> Scotto then started getting
> >more and more maniacal, talking about getting 100%
> of the door, and
> >wanting to sue the club because they tried to steal
> his mailing list.
> >
> >I was getting desperate; it was looking like he was
> not going to let the
> >club have the ticket money.
> >
> >On the Wednesday & Thursday of that week I tried
> emailing & calling Scotto
> >several times to no avail. On Saturday Scotto's
> brother Brooks called me
> >to say that their father had given him instructions
> to call me on Scottoâs
> >behalf, to let me know Scotto was in jail on some
> kind of driving offence.
> >I asked Brooks if he knew what had been going
> between Scotto, the club &
> >me. He was quite clear about saying âNo & he did
> not want to knowâ.
> >
> >Mike, now so sick of Scotto, decided that they
> would cut their losses,
> >keep my $10,000 and only be out a couple of grand
> from what their split
> >should have been.
> >
> >When I finally talked to Scotto it was Monday, and
> he did not want to tell
> >mewhy he had been locked up for 4 days.
> >
> >So Scotto had $24,000 from Ticket Leap. He told me
> that he thought that
> >legally he did not have to give me back the money I
> had spent, but
> >ethically he would do the right thing. Within 24
> hours of saying that, he
> >changed his mind and told me I should sue the club
> for the money.
> 


	
		
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