From skinner@hyperreal.org Wed Jul 16 19:54:52 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 97844 invoked by uid 1126); 16 Jul 2003 19:54:52 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Jul 2003 19:54:52 -0000 Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 12:54:52 -0700 (PDT) From: skinner To: ne-raves@hyperreal.org Message-ID: <20030716125438.G97815@taz3.hyperreal.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: The First Post This is the first post of ne-raves located on hyperreal! -- http://blackmonolith.com http://industrialstrengthrecords.com From skinner@hyperreal.org Wed Jul 16 19:56:29 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 99423 invoked by uid 1126); 16 Jul 2003 19:56:29 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Jul 2003 19:56:29 -0000 Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 12:56:29 -0700 (PDT) From: skinner To: ne-raves@hyperreal.org Message-ID: <20030716125551.Q99351@taz3.hyperreal.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Welcome Welcome back to ne-raves. The list is small right now I can count you all on my hand. Please make a post just so we can make sure things are ok. -- http://blackmonolith.com http://industrialstrengthrecords.com From skinner@hyperreal.org Thu Jul 17 03:10:48 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 44114 invoked by uid 1126); 17 Jul 2003 03:10:48 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 17 Jul 2003 03:10:48 -0000 Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 20:10:48 -0700 (PDT) From: skinner To: ne-raves@hyperreal.org Message-ID: <20030716200740.V43685@taz3.hyperreal.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Getting people back Before the list went the way of the dodo bird a month and so ago we had about 200 users most lost from the last move when we had no more digest. This has returned on this latest and last move. I posted the info that ne-raves is back on various other lists and sites that I have known ne-ravers to also be on. However this is only a small group of people. For the few of you already on, if you know any ne-ravers or people who would like to be on here please give them the information or just give them the link on how to subscribe http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/ne/ Also to keep the list flowing please post any up coming party info you know off. Or just say hi dammit! -- http://blackmonolith.com http://industrialstrengthrecords.com From nine2fiveproductions@yahoo.com Thu Jul 17 04:04:58 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 55889 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2003 04:04:58 -0000 Received: from web20210.mail.yahoo.com (216.136.226.65) by taz3.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Jul 2003 04:04:58 -0000 Message-ID: <20030717040454.91951.qmail@web20210.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [64.12.96.42] by web20210.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 21:04:54 PDT Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 21:04:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Nine2Five Crew To: ne-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1715445634-1058414694=:90242" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: NINE2FIVE NEWS AND BOOKING INFO --0-1715445634-1058414694=:90242 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii -Nine2Five Productions- Whats up everybody? after a really busy year on the radio show, the nine2five crew is full swing into the summer with all sorts of bookings and other various things going on...i want to personally thank each and every one of the djs and other kids who came up to essential tuesdays to make that shit happen! also a huge thank u to ben the newest memeber of our crew and our gracious host at southern new hampshire university. and of course always much love to the listeners from all over the world, THANK YOU! we could not have asked for a better year on the show. no doubt that there was the absolute best in new england talent rockin the station every week. we will keep you posted about the upcoming year on essential tuesdays. until then, below are the list of bookings for some of our crew. if anyone is interested in booking any of our djs, or recieving a promo pack from us, please contact Matty Rolland at nine2fiveproductions@yahoo.com or 603-225-2053. -PEACE- COMING TO A VENUE NEAR U: RAFAEL...(nine2five productions)-the man behind the deep house july 17th @ "the thing" 245 main street nashua violation wednesdays, saugus mass TBA july 29th @ radio show TBA MATTY ROLLAND(nine2five, telekinetic new england, the groove coalition)-deep house, bangin funky house, disco july 27th @ "frequency" club 360 dover august 14th @ "the thing", nashua august 15th @ "bee gnawty" municipal cafe hartford august 27th @ "the thing" nashua september 6th @ "bungalo 54" vermont *other september dates TBA* GOOBER(nine2five, the groove coalition, maine)-two step, garage, trance july 31st @ "the thing" nashua september 6th @ "bungalo 54" vermont *other dates TBA KSWISS(nine2five, the groove coalition, nh)-disco house every thursday night @ "the thing" nashua september 6th @ "bungalo 54" vermont SUBTERRAIST(nine2five, nh)-ragga, jungle TBA "the thing" nashua august 29th @ maine TBA For Promotional and Contact Info please contact Matty Rolland @ 603-225-2053 AIM: Nine2Fivecrew2 Nine2Fiveproductions@yahoo.com --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? 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DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! --0-1715445634-1058414694=:90242-- From drew_xxx_84@hotmail.com Thu Jul 17 05:50:48 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 81353 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2003 05:50:48 -0000 Received: from law10-f116.law10.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (64.4.15.116) by taz3.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Jul 2003 05:50:48 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:50:43 -0700 Received: from 24.62.240.175 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 05:50:43 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.62.240.175] X-Originating-Email: [drew_xxx_84@hotmail.com] From: "b o 0" To: skinner@hyperreal.org, ne-raves@hyperreal.org Bcc: Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 01:50:43 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jul 2003 05:50:43.0674 (UTC) FILETIME=[5C8DD3A0:01C34C27] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Getting people back maybe it shouldn't be public. Its not like there aren't 1,000,000 other sites/forums/lists that don't have all that upcomming party info. If it's closed to the general public then people can talk about outlaws, house parties, etc etc... the only stuff that even half resembles any sort of party at all. -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- -Bo0 aim:lilraver1984 chemicalkid8 -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- >From: skinner >To: ne-raves@hyperreal.org >Subject: [ne-raves] Getting people back >Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 20:10:48 -0700 (PDT) > > >Before the list went the way of the dodo bird a month and so ago we >had about 200 users most lost from the last move when we had no more >digest. This has returned on this latest and last move. > >I posted the info that ne-raves is back on various other lists and >sites that I have known ne-ravers to also be on. However this is only >a small group of people. For the few of you already on, if you know >any ne-ravers or people who would like to be on here please give them >the information or just give them the link on how to subscribe > >http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/ne/ > >Also to keep the list flowing please post any up coming party info you >know off. Or just say hi dammit! > >-- >http://blackmonolith.com >http://industrialstrengthrecords.com > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org > _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From drew_xxx_84@hotmail.com Thu Jul 17 05:55:50 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 82419 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2003 05:55:50 -0000 Received: from law10-f51.law10.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (64.4.15.51) by taz3.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Jul 2003 05:55:50 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:55:45 -0700 Received: from 24.62.240.175 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 05:55:45 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.62.240.175] X-Originating-Email: [drew_xxx_84@hotmail.com] From: "b o 0" To: ne-raves@hyperreal.org Bcc: Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 01:55:45 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jul 2003 05:55:45.0550 (UTC) FILETIME=[107C72E0:01C34C28] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: So how many people are on this list currently? -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- -Bo0 aim:lilraver1984 chemicalkid8 -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From skinner@hyperreal.org Thu Jul 17 06:04:00 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 84361 invoked by uid 1126); 17 Jul 2003 06:04:00 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 17 Jul 2003 06:04:00 -0000 Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 23:04:00 -0700 (PDT) From: skinner To: b o 0 cc: ne-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030716230310.S83936@taz3.hyperreal.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] So On Thu, 17 Jul 2003, b o 0 wrote: ->how many people are on this list currently? -> Well since the list only gave life again this afternoon we are only at about 20 of the orginal 200+ but it will take a few days before we start getting people, its' summer and not everyone is on the interweb all day long. -- Skinner http://zendiagrams.com http://blackmonolith.com http://industrialstrengthrecords.com From skinner@hyperreal.org Thu Jul 17 06:05:32 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 84565 invoked by uid 1126); 17 Jul 2003 06:05:32 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 17 Jul 2003 06:05:32 -0000 Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 23:05:32 -0700 (PDT) From: skinner To: b o 0 cc: ne-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030716230402.B83936@taz3.hyperreal.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Getting people back On Thu, 17 Jul 2003, b o 0 wrote: ->maybe it shouldn't be public. Its not like there aren't 1,000,000 other ->sites/forums/lists that don't have all that upcomming party info. If it's ->closed to the general public then people can talk about outlaws, house ->parties, etc etc... the only stuff that even half resembles any sort of Personally I belive having the list flooded with party info is pointless for just that reason. That is why over the last decade we had a ROM dedicated to just that so people can filter out things or not read. But right now the list needs some traffic to get it stimulated that is why I suggested that so it' gets some posts and people have a start to talk, and or see it's working :) -- Skinner http://zendiagrams.com http://blackmonolith.com http://industrialstrengthrecords.com From screamerclauz@deadlyproductionsrecords.com Thu Jul 17 07:23:48 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 98122 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2003 07:23:48 -0000 Received: from lmg2.affinity.com (HELO lmg05.affinity.com) (207.150.192.150) by taz3.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Jul 2003 07:23:48 -0000 Received: from JIMMY ([199.224.107.237]) by lmg.ahnet.net with SMTP id <298910-10942>; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 00:22:12 -0700 Message-ID: <079201c34c34$19056460$b76be0c7@JIMMY> From: "ScreamerClauz" To: References: Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 03:21:50 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] So I'm here :D Check Out: http://www.deadlyproductionsrecords.com http://www.mp3.com/screamerclauz ----- Original Message ----- From: "b o 0" To: Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 1:55 AM Subject: [ne-raves] So > how many people are on this list currently? > > > > -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- > > -Bo0 > aim:lilraver1984 > chemicalkid8 > -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- > > _________________________________________________________________ > STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org > > From drew_xxx_84@hotmail.com Thu Jul 17 07:49:34 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6808 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2003 07:49:34 -0000 Received: from law10-f121.law10.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (64.4.15.121) by taz3.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Jul 2003 07:49:34 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 00:49:29 -0700 Received: from 24.62.240.175 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 07:49:28 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.62.240.175] X-Originating-Email: [drew_xxx_84@hotmail.com] From: "b o 0" To: screamerclauz@deadlyproductionsrecords.com, ne-raves@hyperreal.org Bcc: Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 03:49:28 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jul 2003 07:49:29.0122 (UTC) FILETIME=[F3A6E820:01C34C37] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] So i'm hoping this list doesnt turn out to be another BR... Not that i'm complaining about br, if i didn't like it'd i'd un-sub, but i'd like to be a member of a list that actualy DOES something, other than sit around and argue politics on the web, then not go to raves at night. i go to raves, and i'd like to talk about them with other knowledgable, *experienced* people who actualy leave their houses once in a while. -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- -Bo0 aim:lilraver1984 chemicalkid8 -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- >From: "ScreamerClauz" >To: >Subject: Re: [ne-raves] So >Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 03:21:50 -0400 > >I'm here :D > > >Check Out: >http://www.deadlyproductionsrecords.com >http://www.mp3.com/screamerclauz > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "b o 0" >To: >Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 1:55 AM >Subject: [ne-raves] So > > > > how many people are on this list currently? > > > > > > > > -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- > > > > -Bo0 > > aim:lilraver1984 > > chemicalkid8 > > -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org > _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From screamerclauz@deadlyproductionsrecords.com Thu Jul 17 07:56:06 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8083 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2003 07:56:06 -0000 Received: from lmg2.affinity.com (HELO lmg02.affinity.com) (207.150.192.150) by taz3.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Jul 2003 07:56:06 -0000 Received: from JIMMY ([199.224.107.237]) by lmg.ahnet.net with SMTP id <295514-26504>; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 00:55:02 -0700 Message-ID: <079c01c34c38$abde2d90$b76be0c7@JIMMY> From: "ScreamerClauz" To: References: Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 03:54:35 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] So Don't worry, I have NO interest in polics what so ever ;) I just wanna know when/where some NE raves are, then possibly go to them..... Check Out: http://www.deadlyproductionsrecords.com http://www.mp3.com/screamerclauz ----- Original Message ----- From: "b o 0" To: ; Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 3:49 AM Subject: Re: [ne-raves] So > i'm hoping this list doesnt turn out to be another BR... Not that i'm > complaining about br, if i didn't like it'd i'd un-sub, but i'd like to be a > member of a list that actualy DOES something, other than sit around and > argue politics on the web, then not go to raves at night. > > i go to raves, and i'd like to talk about them with other knowledgable, > *experienced* people who actualy leave their houses once in a while. > > -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- > > -Bo0 > aim:lilraver1984 > chemicalkid8 > -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- > > > > > > > >From: "ScreamerClauz" > >To: > >Subject: Re: [ne-raves] So > >Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 03:21:50 -0400 > > > >I'm here :D > > > > > >Check Out: > >http://www.deadlyproductionsrecords.com > >http://www.mp3.com/screamerclauz > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "b o 0" > >To: > >Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 1:55 AM > >Subject: [ne-raves] So > > > > > > > how many people are on this list currently? > > > > > > > > > > > > -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- > > > > > > -Bo0 > > > aim:lilraver1984 > > > chemicalkid8 > > > -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > >For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > > From skinner@hyperreal.org Thu Jul 17 17:54:02 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 53070 invoked by uid 1126); 17 Jul 2003 17:54:02 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 17 Jul 2003 17:54:02 -0000 Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 10:54:02 -0700 (PDT) From: skinner To: ne-raves@hyperreal.org Message-ID: <20030717105320.P52742@taz3.hyperreal.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: JULY 18TH, 2003 IN NYC - CANCER 122 WEST 27TH STREET, 10TH FLOOR BETWEEN 6TH & 7TH AVE.'S IN NYC HERE ARE THE TIME SLOTS! 10:00 - 10:45 XYLENE [renegadevirus, nyc] 10:45 - 11:30 TENSE & NEVERMIND [apocalyspe, nyc] 11:30 - 12:15 AMOK & THE DRIVER [tbi, renegade virus, nj] 12:15 - 1:00 BOMBARDIER [low res, nyc] 1:00 - 1:45 D.I.Y. SOUNDSYSTEM [t.k. & l.c.e.d.p., montreal] 1:45 - 2:30 DURAN DURAN DURAN [215 noise, irritant, philly] 2:30 - 3:00 THE TYRANT [tbi, apocalypse, hellz army, nyc] 3:00 - 3:30 FURY 8 [tbi, renegade virus, nyc] sorry to inform ya'll but the party did get cut a little short and excluded from the lineup is semtax and automaton. $6 entry. all proceeds will be donated to the cancer victims in vieques, puerto rico due to u.s. test bombings throughout the years. 122 west 27th street, 10th floor From overdose@gabber.org Thu Jul 17 19:04:14 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 95724 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2003 19:04:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO disorder.gabber.org) (216.74.127.130) by taz3.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Jul 2003 19:04:14 -0000 Received: from [216.74.127.132] ([216.74.127.132]) by disorder.gabber.org (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h6HE5MIi034018 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 10:05:22 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from overdose@gabber.org) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 10:05:22 -0400 (EDT) From: overdose To: ne-raves@hyperreal.org Message-ID: <20030717100454.V33888@disorder.gabber.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.31 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: mix tapes forsale.. Hello everyone, I dug through my closet and found my mixtape collection. Lots of stuff from 1996-1999. I know some people like to collect them, so I figured I would put them up. I dunno what to ask for them. Maybe $50 for the lot? Maybe some trades for some CD's or something. Let me know, the list of them is below... Puro . Lifted 1997 Da1 Like Damaja . oldschool Nueromancer . minimal techno (netparty) Ak0 Hi Octane . Russian mix Hi Octane . AND-gate Scythe . 999 Dylan Drazen . Undercover Dylan Drazen . Entrance Dylan Drazen - Live in Spain DD20 Ezekiel . The havoc Doctor H . Excited Peter Tang . Junga Tang 001 Unrest . One More time DJ Carnage . Trepodation Ru . Junglicious.mmm, beefy Lazy Bones . house DJ Tron . Fucking harder than the devil himself Atom Smasher . XXX Daniel . Payback Mike Freshco . Planet X Bob Brown . composition 1 Devil Girl . pinned Madame Buddafly . Professional for hire Tricky Pat Spencer Paul . freeform groove DJ Courtney . No one knows my plan Dan Deliverance . Unknown Knowledge . Live at Swell in Boston, MA 1998 TFT . Star Base 141 TFT - Drumcoded Eddie Twizzler . Stereophonic Jimmy Hat . enter the house of seoul FIZ . what I learned in urbana The shai Lu Katana . Trance-hop from Manzanar (Live PA) Amadeus . Demonixx Aluminum Noise . Uninhabitable Mr. Robb . Minimal security Astral Matrix . Live in Toronto Utopia August 10, 1996 Pez . Quickie Dan . Pacific 0101 DJ Plastique . Disco Lockdown Thalium . Mind Poison The Shai Lu Speaks Doctor M . Demo January 1999 DLG Supercharged . Scribe Graphics Merrick Brown . Subcommunications From skinner@hyperreal.org Thu Jul 17 20:20:47 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 37369 invoked by uid 1126); 17 Jul 2003 20:20:47 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 17 Jul 2003 20:20:47 -0000 Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:20:47 -0700 (PDT) From: skinner To: b o 0 cc: ne-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030717131604.I31893@taz3.hyperreal.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] So On Thu, 17 Jul 2003, b o 0 wrote: ->i'm hoping this list doesnt turn out to be another BR... Not that i'm ->complaining about br, if i didn't like it'd i'd un-sub, but i'd like to be a ->member of a list that actualy DOES something, other than sit around and ->argue politics on the web, then not go to raves at night. -> ->i go to raves, and i'd like to talk about them with other knowledgable, Ne-raves have and most likely will have it's moments but it was never as bad and never will be as bad as BR or other lists. In the past, most of the administrators have what you call "List Nazis" tendencies. This includes me who has run lists for over 10 years. I let side track discussions happen and run their course but if they become too annoying, filters, and moderation happens. It's hard to be 100% on topic because lists can loose personality and inter personal connections, however, at the same time if you let things go way off on tangents they can become very annoying, like the hic-ups that never go away. -- Skinner http://zendiagrams.com http://blackmonolith.com http://industrialstrengthrecords.com From gduross@temple.edu Fri Jul 18 12:47:31 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 68327 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2003 12:47:31 -0000 Received: from po-smtp1.temple.edu (155.247.166.195) by taz3.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 Jul 2003 12:47:31 -0000 Received: from po-a.temple.edu (po-a.temple.edu [155.247.166.191]) by po-smtp1.temple.edu (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.3.5-GR) with ESMTP id AFL08781; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 08:47:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 12.42.50.51 by po-a.temple.edu (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.3.5-GR) with HTTPS/1.1; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 08:47:29 -0400 Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 08:47:29 -0400 From: gduross@temple.edu To: skinner Cc: ne-raves@hyperreal.org X-Mailer: Webmail Mirapoint Direct 3.3.5-GR MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] The First Post hello there! its good to see the list back up :-) I missed it. g (ps-skinner, this isnt going to be the email addy i want subscribed to the list :-) From SeeD867@aol.com Fri Jul 18 07:49:28 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Delivered-To: moderator for ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18067 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2003 07:49:28 -0000 Received: from imo-r07.mx.aol.com (152.163.225.103) by taz3.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 Jul 2003 07:49:28 -0000 Received: from SeeD867@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id v.1c8.ccde2ef (30960) for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 03:49:14 -0400 (EDT) From: SeeD867@aol.com Message-ID: <1c8.ccde2ef.2c49007a@aol.com> Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 03:49:14 EDT To: ne-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 138 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: NE-RAVE POST Saturday August 2nd. 2003 @ the American Legion. 630 Grassy Hill Rd. Orange, CT. 06477 Ambush Recordings (ct) / Fusion Promotions presents: HAVOC featuring: MYTH I-S (hard/Dark Techno) Dirty ol' Frank (Uk Hardhouse) Breakadawn (funky acid Breaks) The Germ (Acid Techno) Riggamortis vs. B-spaz vs. Balance (Hard Drumnbass) Ryun K aka Yarn & Sabbi (Deep House) $10 @ the door, 18+ only. and free cd giveaways!! From jasper@hyperreal.org Sat Jul 19 01:06:50 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 47101 invoked by uid 1046); 19 Jul 2003 01:06:50 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 01:06:50 -0000 Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 18:06:50 -0700 (PDT) From: jasper To: ne-raves@hyperreal.org Message-ID: <20030718180516.Y40929@taz3.hyperreal.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: hello Hi everyone. I could very well be talking to myself here. Happy to see NER make a new home on Hyperreal. Just wanted to say hi. Jasper From skinner@hyperreal.org Sat Jul 19 02:22:10 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 62754 invoked by uid 1126); 19 Jul 2003 02:22:10 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 02:22:10 -0000 Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 19:22:10 -0700 (PDT) From: skinner To: jasper cc: ne-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <20030718180516.Y40929@taz3.hyperreal.org> Message-ID: <20030718192111.J62641@taz3.hyperreal.org> References: <20030718180516.Y40929@taz3.hyperreal.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] hello On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, jasper wrote: ->Hi everyone. I could very well be talking to myself here. Happy to ->see NER make a new home on Hyperreal. Just wanted to say hi. Well were doing ok, I an guessing by next week will break 50 users. Just more people need to get the word out and hopefully the 6 degres of seperation take over. I wish I had a back up of the user list from the last serve, but I don't :\ -- Skinner http://zendiagrams.com http://blackmonolith.com http://industrialstrengthrecords.com From drew_xxx_84@hotmail.com Sat Jul 19 02:40:36 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 64814 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2003 02:40:36 -0000 Received: from law10-f39.law10.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (64.4.15.39) by taz3.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 02:40:36 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 19:40:32 -0700 Received: from 24.62.240.175 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 02:40:32 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.62.240.175] X-Originating-Email: [drew_xxx_84@hotmail.com] From: "b o 0" To: jasper@hyperreal.org, ne-raves@hyperreal.org Bcc: Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 22:40:32 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jul 2003 02:40:32.0793 (UTC) FILETIME=[1FF71090:01C34D9F] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] hello >Hi everyone. I could very well be talking to myself here. Happy to see NER >make >a new home on Hyperreal. Just wanted to say hi. it feels kinda weird, i haven't really seen anything happening on hyperreal in a long time -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- -Bo0 aim:lilraver1984 chemicalkid8 -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- >From: jasper >To: ne-raves@hyperreal.org >Subject: [ne-raves] hello >Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 18:06:50 -0700 (PDT) > > >Jasper > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org > _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From jasper@hyperreal.org Sat Jul 19 02:41:25 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 64918 invoked by uid 1046); 19 Jul 2003 02:41:25 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 02:41:25 -0000 Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 19:41:25 -0700 (PDT) From: jasper To: skinner cc: ne-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <20030718192111.J62641@taz3.hyperreal.org> Message-ID: <20030718192900.B40929@taz3.hyperreal.org> References: <20030718180516.Y40929@taz3.hyperreal.org> <20030718192111.J62641@taz3.hyperreal.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] hello On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, skinner wrote: > On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, jasper wrote: > > ->Hi everyone. I could very well be talking to myself here. Happy to > ->see NER make a new home on Hyperreal. Just wanted to say hi. > > Well were doing ok, I an guessing by next week will break 50 users. > Just more people need to get the word out and hopefully the 6 degres > of seperation take over. I wish I had a back up of the user list from > the last serve, but I don't :\ Crap, too bad. Can you sweet talk the ISP and get the list from a backup? No big deal I guess. Hyperreal seems to generate it's own trickle of random surfers. There are people with accounts on NYCR from all sorts of far off places. One good thing about Hyperreal hosting is I can eventually do a NER site if that's wanted by the gang. We're using a Zope product called Starraves written by Colmar. It's a great idea but should be far from a beta test launch. But it's live for many of the Hyperreal regionals already. So we're basically developing and testing on a live site :) John Vicondoa and I are the most active I think so SF-Raves and NYC-Raves are the most hacked and bug free. Let me know if you guys want a site and NER can probably have an up to date and relatively bug free installation of Starraves. Don't mean to steal away users at all, honestly. But if you want to see what Starraves is check out the NYC page. http://nyc.hyperreal.org (hyperreal.org/raves/nyc) Jasper From jasper@hyperreal.org Sat Jul 19 02:45:54 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 65377 invoked by uid 1046); 19 Jul 2003 02:45:54 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 02:45:54 -0000 Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 19:45:54 -0700 (PDT) From: jasper To: b o 0 cc: ne-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030718194208.C40929@taz3.hyperreal.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] hello On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, b o 0 wrote: > >Hi everyone. I could very well be talking to myself here. Happy to see NER > >make > >a new home on Hyperreal. Just wanted to say hi. > > it feels kinda weird, i haven't really seen anything happening on hyperreal > in a long time. Hyperreal the mothership has been very quiet, but a couple of the regions have been very active mainly SF, MW and NYC. It all depends on the region's admin. Once I get NYC running smoothly on auto pilot I might attempt to bring Hyperreal up to 2003 if Brian lets me. I don't think anyone has really worked on Hyperreal since the mid to late 90s. Jasper From skinner@hyperreal.org Sat Jul 19 02:50:03 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 67029 invoked by uid 1126); 19 Jul 2003 02:50:03 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 02:50:03 -0000 Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 19:50:03 -0700 (PDT) From: skinner To: jasper cc: ne-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <20030718194208.C40929@taz3.hyperreal.org> Message-ID: <20030718194821.J65507@taz3.hyperreal.org> References: <20030718194208.C40929@taz3.hyperreal.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] hello On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, jasper wrote: ->Hyperreal the mothership has been very quiet, but a couple of the ->regions have been very active mainly SF, MW and NYC. It all depends ->on the region's admin. Once I get NYC running smoothly on auto pilot ->I might attempt to bring Hyperreal up to 2003 if Brian lets me. I ->don't think anyone has really worked on Hyperreal since the mid to ->late 90s. Alot pf the musics lists are very attive includin my own gabber list, however my darkstep list is low traffic. It's all various when it's to lists, as far as the website, yea not much has gone on small updates on music.hyperreal.org now and then which mike runs along with help on smaller sections by a few of us people. -- Skinner http://zendiagrams.com http://blackmonolith.com http://industrialstrengthrecords.com From drew_xxx_84@hotmail.com Sat Jul 19 03:05:36 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 68476 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2003 03:05:36 -0000 Received: from law10-f17.law10.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (64.4.15.17) by taz3.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 03:05:36 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 20:05:32 -0700 Received: from 24.62.240.175 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 03:05:32 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.62.240.175] X-Originating-Email: [drew_xxx_84@hotmail.com] From: "b o 0" To: ne-raves@hyperreal.org Bcc: Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 23:05:32 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jul 2003 03:05:32.0831 (UTC) FILETIME=[9E0EB2F0:01C34DA2] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Raves is anyone on THIS list interested in outlaws by any chance? (I sorta got an outlaw sweet-tooth) -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- -Bo0 aim:lilraver1984 chemicalkid8 -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From tniz@x-treme-productions.net Sat Jul 19 03:30:12 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 71838 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2003 03:30:12 -0000 Received: from lakemtao01.cox.net (68.1.17.244) by taz3.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 03:30:12 -0000 Received: from tniz ([68.14.143.60]) by lakemtao01.cox.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.05 201-253-122-122-105-20011231) with ESMTP id <20030719033006.CIBS7142.lakemtao01.cox.net@tniz>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 23:30:06 -0400 From: "Tom" To: "'b o 0'" , Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 23:30:14 -0400 Message-ID: <000001c34da6$11ca5b10$02fea8c0@tniz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: RE: [ne-raves] Raves Outlaws have proven to be some of my most memorable events. Being in Maine for the past 4 years has brought a new respect to underground. No warehouse parties, just long hikes into the middle of some pitch black wooded area to find a small campfire with maybe 30-50 people all relaxing with great music. Ahh, good times. I just wish there was a stronger outlaw scene down here in RI. -----Original Message----- From: b o 0 [mailto:drew_xxx_84@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 11:06 PM To: ne-raves@hyperreal.org Subject: [ne-raves] Raves is anyone on THIS list interested in outlaws by any chance? (I sorta got an outlaw sweet-tooth) -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- -Bo0 aim:lilraver1984 chemicalkid8 -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org From jasper@hyperreal.org Sat Jul 19 03:30:54 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 71933 invoked by uid 1046); 19 Jul 2003 03:30:54 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 03:30:54 -0000 Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 20:30:54 -0700 (PDT) From: jasper To: b o 0 cc: ne-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030718202532.J40929@taz3.hyperreal.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Raves Yes, but they tend not to get discussed on Hyperreal lists considering they're public. There are a couple fairly active renegade crews in NYC. Where are you? The way we configured Starraves on SF and NYC is people can post their events without an address. It's specifically designed as a renegade selector :) You can just keep it a phone number or email or map point. Eventually we'll mod it so you can edit it after you've posted it and thus be able to post info the day of. Btw, a bunch of the crews from NYC just came back from a really great teknival in Canada that went off without a hitch apparently. Wish I could have joined them. Apparently the renegade vibe is pretty strong up north. Jasper On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, b o 0 wrote: > is anyone on THIS list interested in outlaws by any chance? > > (I sorta got an outlaw sweet-tooth) From tniz@x-treme-productions.net Sat Jul 19 03:42:19 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 73302 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2003 03:42:19 -0000 Received: from lakemtao02.cox.net (68.1.17.243) by taz3.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 03:42:19 -0000 Received: from tniz ([68.14.143.60]) by lakemtao02.cox.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.05 201-253-122-122-105-20011231) with ESMTP id <20030719034215.FUOF24359.lakemtao02.cox.net@tniz>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 23:42:15 -0400 From: "Tom" To: "'jasper'" , "'b o 0'" Cc: Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 23:42:22 -0400 Message-ID: <000101c34da7$c347ddd0$02fea8c0@tniz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20030718202532.J40929@taz3.hyperreal.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: RE: [ne-raves] Raves Pretty much, the renegade/outlaw scene is all that there is up in Maine. I consider that north for me as I'm in Rhode Island. Up there we can't find any legit venues. The cops are always on our case, and just about every town/city has some type of law that is similar to the new RAVE act. It really sucks, but it does help keep the underground vibe strong. It does hurt the scene a little bit because its so hard for newer kids to get involved. The parties are pretty much on an invite only basis. In order to get info, you have to know the right people. We have a quite a few mailing lists of our own, nothing on hyperreal. We tend to use yahoo for all the public stuff, then a few crews host private mailing lists on their servers. I'm new to the hyperreal stuff, it started to fizzle out when I started getting into this, so I'm still checking everything out. Looks promising though. TNiZ -----Original Message----- From: jasper [mailto:jasper@hyperreal.org] Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 11:31 PM To: b o 0 Cc: ne-raves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Raves Yes, but they tend not to get discussed on Hyperreal lists considering they're public. There are a couple fairly active renegade crews in NYC. Where are you? The way we configured Starraves on SF and NYC is people can post their events without an address. It's specifically designed as a renegade selector :) You can just keep it a phone number or email or map point. Eventually we'll mod it so you can edit it after you've posted it and thus be able to post info the day of. Btw, a bunch of the crews from NYC just came back from a really great teknival in Canada that went off without a hitch apparently. Wish I could have joined them. Apparently the renegade vibe is pretty strong up north. Jasper On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, b o 0 wrote: > is anyone on THIS list interested in outlaws by any chance? > > (I sorta got an outlaw sweet-tooth) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org From drew_xxx_84@hotmail.com Sat Jul 19 04:14:36 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 80355 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2003 04:14:36 -0000 Received: from law10-f54.law10.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (64.4.15.54) by taz3.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 04:14:36 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 21:14:32 -0700 Received: from 24.62.240.175 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 04:14:31 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.62.240.175] X-Originating-Email: [drew_xxx_84@hotmail.com] From: "b o 0" To: tniz@x-treme-productions.net, jasper@hyperreal.org Cc: ne-raves@hyperreal.org Bcc: Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 00:14:31 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jul 2003 04:14:32.0206 (UTC) FILETIME=[415132E0:01C34DAC] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: RE: [ne-raves] Raves totally, i'm not lookin for anything like "groove", but i've got some really really good ideas on how to pull these things off. Specialy knowing NH's laws. -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- -Bo0 aim:lilraver1984 chemicalkid8 -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- >From: "Tom" >To: "'jasper'" ,"'b o 0'" >CC: >Subject: RE: [ne-raves] Raves >Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 23:42:22 -0400 > >Pretty much, the renegade/outlaw scene is all that there is up in Maine. >I consider that north for me as I'm in Rhode Island. Up there we can't >find any legit venues. The cops are always on our case, and just about >every town/city has some type of law that is similar to the new RAVE >act. It really sucks, but it does help keep the underground vibe >strong. It does hurt the scene a little bit because its so hard for >newer kids to get involved. The parties are pretty much on an invite >only basis. In order to get info, you have to know the right people. >We have a quite a few mailing lists of our own, nothing on hyperreal. >We tend to use yahoo for all the public stuff, then a few crews host >private mailing lists on their servers. I'm new to the hyperreal stuff, >it started to fizzle out when I started getting into this, so I'm still >checking everything out. Looks promising though. > >TNiZ > >-----Original Message----- >From: jasper [mailto:jasper@hyperreal.org] >Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 11:31 PM >To: b o 0 >Cc: ne-raves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Raves > >Yes, but they tend not to get discussed on Hyperreal lists considering >they're >public. There are a couple fairly active renegade crews in NYC. Where >are you? >The way we configured Starraves on SF and NYC is people can post their >events >without an address. It's specifically designed as a renegade selector >:) You can just keep it a phone number or email or map point. >Eventually we'll >mod it so you can edit it after you've posted it and thus be able to >post info >the day of. > >Btw, a bunch of the crews from NYC just came back from a really great >teknival >in Canada that went off without a hitch apparently. Wish I could have >joined >them. Apparently the renegade vibe is pretty strong up north. > >Jasper > >On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, b o 0 wrote: > > > is anyone on THIS list interested in outlaws by any chance? > > > > (I sorta got an outlaw sweet-tooth) > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org > _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From tniz@x-treme-productions.net Sat Jul 19 05:10:26 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 90301 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2003 05:10:26 -0000 Received: from lakemtao01.cox.net (68.1.17.244) by taz3.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 05:10:26 -0000 Received: from tniz ([68.14.143.60]) by lakemtao01.cox.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.05 201-253-122-122-105-20011231) with ESMTP id <20030719051020.CTMT7142.lakemtao01.cox.net@tniz>; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 01:10:20 -0400 From: "Tom" To: "'b o 0'" , Cc: Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 01:10:21 -0400 Message-ID: <000001c34db4$10fc2d40$02fea8c0@tniz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: RE: [ne-raves] Raves Last warehouse party I went to was insane. Nothing compared to "groove", primitive lighting, a major collaboration of mix and match sound gear. But it was a good time, great vibe, and awesome music, that is until the cops showed up at 4am. TNiZ -----Original Message----- From: b o 0 [mailto:drew_xxx_84@hotmail.com] Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 12:15 AM To: tniz@x-treme-productions.net; jasper@hyperreal.org Cc: ne-raves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [ne-raves] Raves totally, i'm not lookin for anything like "groove", but i've got some really really good ideas on how to pull these things off. Specialy knowing NH's laws. -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- -Bo0 aim:lilraver1984 chemicalkid8 -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- >From: "Tom" >To: "'jasper'" ,"'b o 0'" >CC: >Subject: RE: [ne-raves] Raves >Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 23:42:22 -0400 > >Pretty much, the renegade/outlaw scene is all that there is up in Maine. >I consider that north for me as I'm in Rhode Island. Up there we can't >find any legit venues. The cops are always on our case, and just about >every town/city has some type of law that is similar to the new RAVE >act. It really sucks, but it does help keep the underground vibe >strong. It does hurt the scene a little bit because its so hard for >newer kids to get involved. The parties are pretty much on an invite >only basis. In order to get info, you have to know the right people. >We have a quite a few mailing lists of our own, nothing on hyperreal. >We tend to use yahoo for all the public stuff, then a few crews host >private mailing lists on their servers. I'm new to the hyperreal stuff, >it started to fizzle out when I started getting into this, so I'm still >checking everything out. Looks promising though. > >TNiZ > >-----Original Message----- >From: jasper [mailto:jasper@hyperreal.org] >Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 11:31 PM >To: b o 0 >Cc: ne-raves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Raves > >Yes, but they tend not to get discussed on Hyperreal lists considering >they're >public. There are a couple fairly active renegade crews in NYC. Where >are you? >The way we configured Starraves on SF and NYC is people can post their >events >without an address. It's specifically designed as a renegade selector >:) You can just keep it a phone number or email or map point. >Eventually we'll >mod it so you can edit it after you've posted it and thus be able to >post info >the day of. > >Btw, a bunch of the crews from NYC just came back from a really great >teknival >in Canada that went off without a hitch apparently. Wish I could have >joined >them. Apparently the renegade vibe is pretty strong up north. > >Jasper > >On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, b o 0 wrote: > > > is anyone on THIS list interested in outlaws by any chance? > > > > (I sorta got an outlaw sweet-tooth) > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org > _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org From drew_xxx_84@hotmail.com Sat Jul 19 06:03:17 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 96630 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2003 06:03:17 -0000 Received: from law10-f109.law10.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (64.4.15.109) by taz3.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 06:03:17 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 23:03:13 -0700 Received: from 24.62.240.175 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 06:03:12 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.62.240.175] X-Originating-Email: [drew_xxx_84@hotmail.com] From: "b o 0" To: tniz@x-treme-productions.net, jasper@hyperreal.org Cc: ne-raves@hyperreal.org Bcc: Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 02:03:12 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jul 2003 06:03:13.0330 (UTC) FILETIME=[7035C120:01C34DBB] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: RE: [ne-raves] Raves i've only gotten busted once, me and my friend took all the heat, while everyone else got away. We didn't get arrested, they just told us to go home. -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- -Bo0 aim:lilraver1984 chemicalkid8 -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- >From: "Tom" >To: "'b o 0'" , >CC: >Subject: RE: [ne-raves] Raves >Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 01:10:21 -0400 > >Last warehouse party I went to was insane. Nothing compared to >"groove", primitive lighting, a major collaboration of mix and match >sound gear. But it was a good time, great vibe, and awesome music, that >is until the cops showed up at 4am. > >TNiZ > >-----Original Message----- >From: b o 0 [mailto:drew_xxx_84@hotmail.com] >Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 12:15 AM >To: tniz@x-treme-productions.net; jasper@hyperreal.org >Cc: ne-raves@hyperreal.org >Subject: RE: [ne-raves] Raves > >totally, i'm not lookin for anything like "groove", but i've got some >really >really good ideas on how to pull these things off. Specialy knowing NH's > >laws. > > > >-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- > >-Bo0 >aim:lilraver1984 > chemicalkid8 >-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- > > > > > > > >From: "Tom" > >To: "'jasper'" ,"'b o 0'" > > >CC: > >Subject: RE: [ne-raves] Raves > >Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 23:42:22 -0400 > > > >Pretty much, the renegade/outlaw scene is all that there is up in >Maine. > >I consider that north for me as I'm in Rhode Island. Up there we can't > >find any legit venues. The cops are always on our case, and just about > >every town/city has some type of law that is similar to the new RAVE > >act. It really sucks, but it does help keep the underground vibe > >strong. It does hurt the scene a little bit because its so hard for > >newer kids to get involved. The parties are pretty much on an invite > >only basis. In order to get info, you have to know the right people. > >We have a quite a few mailing lists of our own, nothing on hyperreal. > >We tend to use yahoo for all the public stuff, then a few crews host > >private mailing lists on their servers. I'm new to the hyperreal >stuff, > >it started to fizzle out when I started getting into this, so I'm still > >checking everything out. Looks promising though. > > > >TNiZ > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: jasper [mailto:jasper@hyperreal.org] > >Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 11:31 PM > >To: b o 0 > >Cc: ne-raves@hyperreal.org > >Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Raves > > > >Yes, but they tend not to get discussed on Hyperreal lists considering > >they're > >public. There are a couple fairly active renegade crews in NYC. Where > >are you? > >The way we configured Starraves on SF and NYC is people can post their > >events > >without an address. It's specifically designed as a renegade selector > >:) You can just keep it a phone number or email or map point. > >Eventually we'll > >mod it so you can edit it after you've posted it and thus be able to > >post info > >the day of. > > > >Btw, a bunch of the crews from NYC just came back from a really great > >teknival > >in Canada that went off without a hitch apparently. Wish I could have > >joined > >them. Apparently the renegade vibe is pretty strong up north. > > > >Jasper > > > >On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, b o 0 wrote: > > > > > is anyone on THIS list interested in outlaws by any chance? > > > > > > (I sorta got an outlaw sweet-tooth) > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > >For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > >For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org > > > > _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From jasper@hyperreal.org Sat Jul 19 06:19:02 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 98108 invoked by uid 1046); 19 Jul 2003 06:19:02 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 06:19:02 -0000 Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 23:19:02 -0700 (PDT) From: jasper To: ne-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030718231815.R97954@taz3.hyperreal.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: RE: [ne-raves] Raves Roll call. Where are you guys? Jasper Jersey City, NJ From drew_xxx_84@hotmail.com Sat Jul 19 06:34:10 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 229 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2003 06:34:10 -0000 Received: from law10-f96.law10.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (64.4.15.96) by taz3.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 06:34:10 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 23:34:05 -0700 Received: from 24.62.240.175 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 06:34:05 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.62.240.175] X-Originating-Email: [drew_xxx_84@hotmail.com] From: "b o 0" To: jasper@hyperreal.org, ne-raves@hyperreal.org Bcc: Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 02:34:05 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jul 2003 06:34:05.0929 (UTC) FILETIME=[C071ED90:01C34DBF] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: RE: [ne-raves] Raves in the NH capital -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- -Bo0 aim:lilraver1984 chemicalkid8 -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- >From: jasper >To: ne-raves@hyperreal.org >Subject: RE: [ne-raves] Raves >Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 23:19:02 -0700 (PDT) > >Roll call. Where are you guys? > >Jasper >Jersey City, NJ > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org > _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From skinner@hyperreal.org Sat Jul 19 06:37:18 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1211 invoked by uid 1126); 19 Jul 2003 06:37:18 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 06:37:18 -0000 Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 23:37:17 -0700 (PDT) From: skinner To: jasper cc: ne-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <20030718231815.R97954@taz3.hyperreal.org> Message-ID: <20030718233709.T1172@taz3.hyperreal.org> References: <20030718231815.R97954@taz3.hyperreal.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: RE: [ne-raves] Raves On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, jasper wrote: ->Roll call. Where are you guys? -> ->Jasper ->Jersey City, NJ Earth :) -- Skinner http://zendiagrams.com http://blackmonolith.com http://industrialstrengthrecords.com From jasper@hyperreal.org Sat Jul 19 06:55:11 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3293 invoked by uid 1046); 19 Jul 2003 06:55:11 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 06:55:11 -0000 Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 23:55:11 -0700 (PDT) From: jasper To: skinner cc: ne-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <20030718233709.T1172@taz3.hyperreal.org> Message-ID: <20030718235407.Q97954@taz3.hyperreal.org> References: <20030718231815.R97954@taz3.hyperreal.org> <20030718233709.T1172@taz3.hyperreal.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: RE: [ne-raves] Raves On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, skinner wrote: > On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, jasper wrote: > > ->Roll call. Where are you guys? > -> > ->Jasper > ->Jersey City, NJ > > Earth :) Haha, nice try Skinner. Fess up to the kids. You're in the same armpit state. Jasper From skinner@hyperreal.org Sat Jul 19 07:06:02 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4612 invoked by uid 1126); 19 Jul 2003 07:06:02 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 07:06:02 -0000 Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 00:06:02 -0700 (PDT) From: skinner To: jasper cc: ne-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <20030718235407.Q97954@taz3.hyperreal.org> Message-ID: <20030719000516.S4487@taz3.hyperreal.org> References: <20030718231815.R97954@taz3.hyperreal.org> <20030718233709.T1172@taz3.hyperreal.org> <20030718235407.Q97954@taz3.hyperreal.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: RE: [ne-raves] Raves On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, jasper wrote: ->Haha, nice try Skinner. Fess up to the kids. You're in the same ->armpit state. Armpit? Sorry I live in the center of the universe and the greatest state in the union! (shows off his NJHC tat with pride) =p -- Skinner http://zendiagrams.com http://blackmonolith.com http://industrialstrengthrecords.com From drew_xxx_84@hotmail.com Sat Jul 19 07:25:53 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7535 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2003 07:25:53 -0000 Received: from law10-f71.law10.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (64.4.15.71) by taz3.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 07:25:53 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 00:25:48 -0700 Received: from 24.62.240.175 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 07:25:48 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.62.240.175] X-Originating-Email: [drew_xxx_84@hotmail.com] From: "b o 0" To: ne-raves@hyperreal.org Bcc: Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 03:25:48 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jul 2003 07:25:48.0685 (UTC) FILETIME=[F9D4EBD0:01C34DC6] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: sizzle ...who's going? -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- -Bo0 aim:lilraver1984 chemicalkid8 -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From ryan_verc@juno.com Sat Jul 19 13:48:56 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 59696 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2003 13:48:56 -0000 Received: from m12.lax.untd.com (64.136.30.75) by taz3.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 13:48:56 -0000 Received: from cookie.untd.com by cookie.untd.com for <"0JVWP2/RwFVBF+k5hm0alC161x5rJntjLVX4QxZhFIP/W+6srH8+/Q==">; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 06:47:55 PDT Received: (from ryan_verc@juno.com) by m12.lax.untd.com (jqueuemail) id H5F35GH4; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 06:47:55 PDT To: ne-raves@hyperreal.org Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 09:52:35 -0400 Message-ID: <20030719.095237.-426149.0.ryan_verc@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 4.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1-2,6-7,11-12,14-18 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: ryan m vercolen X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: aloha! of the few names i've seen on here, some look familiar, some don't... so, hello (: i'd noticed that my mail from ner had slowly trickled to a halt, and then that neraves.org had disappeared. at first, i thought i just didn't post enough anymore and got the auto boot or something. but i guess we've had some technical problems then? it's good to see ne-raves back and functioning. i had twentysomething messages when i checked my stuff this morning. when i noticed that like every other one was skinner, i thought i subscribed into the middle of a flamewar. but alas, it was not to be... :P i won't subject you all to any more random babbling for now. i'll just say i'm glad to be back, and happy to meet (and re-meet) you! -ryan ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! 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TRACK LISTING: 01 HOLD IT DOWN - 4 HERO (EXEMEN) 02 I'M ON THE MIC - STICKY & VIPER 03 GABRIEL LAMB - (MJ COLE) 04 WHY - HEARTLESS CREW (STICKY) 05 BREAKIN - THE WIDEBOYS 06 TAKE FLIGHT - MJ COLE & LYRIC L 07 HI GRADE - J SWEET & DJ CAMEO 08 ALWAYS ON TIME - ASHANTI (AGENT X) 09 RUFFNECK SOUND - ARTFUL DODGER, R.DAN & S.G (BASEMENT) 10 FLOW - ANGEL 21 FEATURING ROSE WINDROSS & MC KIE 11 THE THINGS WE DO FOR LOVE - STICKY & KELE LE ROC 12 BOY, I NEED YOU - MARIAH CAREY (AGENT X 4x4 DUB) 13 MY PHILOSOPHY (BOUNCE) - DONAE'O 14 BRING BACK THE LADIES - MUSICAL MOB & LORRAINE CATO 15 FEEL IT BOY - BEENIE MAN & JANET (AGENT X) 16 DEEPER FEELINGS EL-B 17 RAMP MS DYNAMITE & MENTA 18 JIGGA UP (RING THE ALARM)- ZED BIAS, SIMBA & JUICEMAN 19 SHARKY BASS - SHARKY & PASHUN (DUBPLATE) 20 YES, YES - DJ NOEL AKA THE SCO (DUBPLATE) 21 BROWN SUGA - GEESIXCRU 22 HEARTBEAT - AMMA (IRIS PRODUCTIONS REMIX)(DUBPLATE) 23 CHANGES - KINGS OF TOMORROW (MJ COLE) Several of G Notorious' older mixes are available on the site as well. http://www.SoulChampion.com/html/Mixes.html __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com From soulchampionboston@yahoo.com Sat Jul 19 16:40:33 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 83542 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2003 16:40:33 -0000 Received: from web11802.mail.yahoo.com (216.136.172.156) by taz3.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 16:40:33 -0000 Message-ID: <20030719164031.6576.qmail@web11802.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [65.96.165.47] by web11802.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 09:40:31 PDT Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 09:40:31 -0700 (PDT) From: SoulChampion To: ne-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: SoulMatch DefChampion Tuesday July 22nd Soulchampion Crew puts on the Breaks! This coming Tuesday, as a warm-up to the return of Lively, ( http://www.soulchampion.com/html/Events.html ) SoulChampion's Jam-2 and Senyo will be dropping some Breakstep and 2-Step Underground Garage at Defmatch alongside residents Cosine Zero and Traylor. Big up to the Defmatch crew on their one year anniversary of the night. The SoulChampion Crew will be representing with copies of their latest group promo CD, "The Summer Soundtrack", as well.   Vertigo 126 State Street 10pm-2pm No Dress Code Info phatmike@defmatch.com http://www.defmatch.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com From supapimpny@yahoo.com Sun Jul 20 21:16:51 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26401 invoked from network); 20 Jul 2003 21:16:51 -0000 Received: from web10102.mail.yahoo.com (216.136.130.52) by taz3.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Jul 2003 21:16:51 -0000 Message-ID: <20030720211648.71753.qmail@web10102.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.188.248.101] by web10102.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 20 Jul 2003 14:16:48 PDT Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 14:16:48 -0700 (PDT) From: kelly d To: b o 0 , ne-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Raves As long as I don't have to climb a cliff to get them, I'm interested. There was one I went to somewhere in Queens thrown by Charlie & the Renegade Virus crew - where I had to literally get pushed up the hill bc it was so steep. =( --- b o 0 wrote: > is anyone on THIS list interested in outlaws by any > chance? > > (I sorta got an outlaw sweet-tooth) > > -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- > > -Bo0 > aim:lilraver1984 > chemicalkid8 > -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- > > _________________________________________________________________ > Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months > FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: > ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com From tniz@x-treme-productions.net Mon Jul 21 00:03:07 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 60415 invoked from network); 21 Jul 2003 00:03:07 -0000 Received: from lakemtao04.cox.net (68.1.17.241) by taz3.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Jul 2003 00:03:07 -0000 Received: from tniz ([68.14.143.60]) by lakemtao04.cox.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.05 201-253-122-122-105-20011231) with ESMTP id <20030721000304.RBFH13930.lakemtao04.cox.net@tniz>; Sun, 20 Jul 2003 20:03:04 -0400 From: "Tom" To: "'kelly d'" , "'b o 0'" , Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 20:03:12 -0400 Message-ID: <000301c34f1b$7a6b75c0$02fea8c0@tniz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: <20030720211648.71753.qmail@web10102.mail.yahoo.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: RE: [ne-raves] Raves My worst experience was trying to cross a river using the train tracks that went over it. Did this at 11pm in the middle of a nasty thunderstorm, almost fell in the river due to the wind. And all that just to find out that the directions were wrong and we were supposed to turn before the bridge, not after. -----Original Message----- From: kelly d [mailto:supapimpny@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 5:17 PM To: b o 0; ne-raves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Raves As long as I don't have to climb a cliff to get them, I'm interested. There was one I went to somewhere in Queens thrown by Charlie & the Renegade Virus crew - where I had to literally get pushed up the hill bc it was so steep. =( --- b o 0 wrote: > is anyone on THIS list interested in outlaws by any > chance? > > (I sorta got an outlaw sweet-tooth) > > -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- > > -Bo0 > aim:lilraver1984 > chemicalkid8 > -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- > > _________________________________________________________________ > Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. 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DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org From supapimpny@yahoo.com Mon Jul 21 00:13:38 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 62076 invoked from network); 21 Jul 2003 00:13:38 -0000 Received: from web10104.mail.yahoo.com (216.136.130.54) by taz3.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Jul 2003 00:13:38 -0000 Message-ID: <20030721001335.56392.qmail@web10104.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.188.248.101] by web10104.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 20 Jul 2003 17:13:35 PDT Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 17:13:35 -0700 (PDT) From: kelly d To: Tom , 'b o 0' , ne-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <000301c34f1b$7a6b75c0$02fea8c0@tniz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: RE: [ne-raves] Raves Thats some Stand By Me shit right there ;) Makes my cliff seem more like a mole hill. --- Tom wrote: > My worst experience was trying to cross a river > using the train tracks > that went over it. Did this at 11pm in the middle > of a nasty > thunderstorm, almost fell in the river due to the > wind. And all that > just to find out that the directions were wrong and > we were supposed to > turn before the bridge, not after. > > -----Original Message----- > From: kelly d [mailto:supapimpny@yahoo.com] > Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 5:17 PM > To: b o 0; ne-raves@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Raves > > As long as I don't have to climb a cliff to get > them, > I'm interested. There was one I went to somewhere > in > Queens thrown by Charlie & the Renegade Virus crew - > where I had to literally get pushed up the hill bc > it > was so steep. =( > > --- b o 0 wrote: > > is anyone on THIS list interested in outlaws by > any > > chance? > > > > (I sorta got an outlaw sweet-tooth) > > > > -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- > > > > -Bo0 > > aim:lilraver1984 > > chemicalkid8 > > -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 > months > > FREE*. > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > SBC Yahoo! 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DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com From tniz@x-treme-productions.net Mon Jul 21 00:17:00 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 62354 invoked from network); 21 Jul 2003 00:17:00 -0000 Received: from lakemtao01.cox.net (68.1.17.244) by taz3.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Jul 2003 00:17:00 -0000 Received: from tniz ([68.14.143.60]) by lakemtao01.cox.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.05 201-253-122-122-105-20011231) with ESMTP id <20030721001657.PNGN7142.lakemtao01.cox.net@tniz>; Sun, 20 Jul 2003 20:16:57 -0400 From: "Tom" To: "'kelly d'" , "'b o 0'" , Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 20:17:00 -0400 Message-ID: <000501c34f1d$6ab2bb50$02fea8c0@tniz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: <20030721001335.56392.qmail@web10104.mail.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: RE: [ne-raves] Raves As scary as it was though, it made the nite that more memorable. I didn't know half the people that tried to find the party with us, and to this day we still are in contact. Man, I need a good outlaw. -----Original Message----- From: kelly d [mailto:supapimpny@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 8:14 PM To: Tom; 'b o 0'; ne-raves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [ne-raves] Raves Thats some Stand By Me shit right there ;) Makes my cliff seem more like a mole hill. --- Tom wrote: > My worst experience was trying to cross a river > using the train tracks > that went over it. Did this at 11pm in the middle > of a nasty > thunderstorm, almost fell in the river due to the > wind. And all that > just to find out that the directions were wrong and > we were supposed to > turn before the bridge, not after. > > -----Original Message----- > From: kelly d [mailto:supapimpny@yahoo.com] > Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 5:17 PM > To: b o 0; ne-raves@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Raves > > As long as I don't have to climb a cliff to get > them, > I'm interested. There was one I went to somewhere > in > Queens thrown by Charlie & the Renegade Virus crew - > where I had to literally get pushed up the hill bc > it > was so steep. =( > > --- b o 0 wrote: > > is anyone on THIS list interested in outlaws by > any > > chance? > > > > (I sorta got an outlaw sweet-tooth) > > > > -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- > > > > -Bo0 > > aim:lilraver1984 > > chemicalkid8 > > -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. 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DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org From skinner@hyperreal.org Mon Jul 21 05:26:40 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18722 invoked by uid 1126); 21 Jul 2003 05:26:40 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Jul 2003 05:26:40 -0000 Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 22:26:40 -0700 (PDT) From: skinner To: Tom cc: ne-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <000301c34f1b$7a6b75c0$02fea8c0@tniz> Message-ID: <20030720222406.D17245@taz3.hyperreal.org> References: <000301c34f1b$7a6b75c0$02fea8c0@tniz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Worst Outlaw Experince On Sun, 20 Jul 2003, Tom wrote: ->My worst experience I changed the subject becuse I find this to be a neat thread and worth having it's own subject. My worst experince was an outlaw we did back in 95 I think it was. We were using an old warehouse. Well somehow the cops thought it was going to be this huge drug party, so they sent in the storm troopers ERT team in ther black military uniforms and semi-auto rifles. But to their surpise they busted 3 kids setting up a sound system for a party of a few people not what they were expecting. I have to say though eating the ground with a ERT/SWAT gun to your head is well, not fun ;) -- Skinner http://zendiagrams.com http://blackmonolith.com http://industrialstrengthrecords.com From drew_xxx_84@hotmail.com Mon Jul 21 05:56:13 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26327 invoked from network); 21 Jul 2003 05:56:13 -0000 Received: from law10-f119.law10.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (64.4.15.119) by taz3.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Jul 2003 05:56:13 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 20 Jul 2003 22:56:09 -0700 Received: from 24.62.240.175 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 05:56:08 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.62.240.175] X-Originating-Email: [drew_xxx_84@hotmail.com] From: "b o 0" To: skinner@hyperreal.org, tniz@x-treme-productions.net Cc: ne-raves@hyperreal.org Bcc: Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 01:56:08 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jul 2003 05:56:09.0282 (UTC) FILETIME=[C848AA20:01C34F4C] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Worst Outlaw Experince me and my friend got busted once on the way out of the party, we were the only 2 who got busted too, but it ended up ok. I've pretty much got a 6th sense for the 5-o and stuff. (see, i KNEW if we went back we'd get busted, and sure enough) -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- -Bo0 aim:lilraver1984 chemicalkid8 -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- >From: skinner >To: Tom >CC: ne-raves@hyperreal.org >Subject: [ne-raves] Worst Outlaw Experince >Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 22:26:40 -0700 (PDT) > >On Sun, 20 Jul 2003, Tom wrote: > >->My worst experience > >I changed the subject becuse I find this to be a neat thread and worth >having it's own subject. > >My worst experince was an outlaw we did back in 95 I think it was. We >were using an old warehouse. Well somehow the cops thought it was >going to be this huge drug party, so they sent in the storm troopers >ERT team in ther black military uniforms and semi-auto rifles. But to >their surpise they busted 3 kids setting up a sound system for a party >of a few people not what they were expecting. > >I have to say though eating the ground with a ERT/SWAT gun to your >head is well, not fun ;) > > >-- >Skinner >http://zendiagrams.com >http://blackmonolith.com >http://industrialstrengthrecords.com > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org > _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From gduross@temple.edu Mon Jul 21 16:45:23 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 75550 invoked from network); 21 Jul 2003 16:45:23 -0000 Received: from po-smtp1.temple.edu (155.247.166.195) by taz3.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Jul 2003 16:45:23 -0000 Received: from po-a.temple.edu (po-a.temple.edu [155.247.166.191]) by po-smtp1.temple.edu (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.3.5-GR) with ESMTP id AFO81378; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:45:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 12.42.51.28 by po-a.temple.edu (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.3.5-GR) with HTTPS/1.1; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:45:20 -0400 Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:45:20 -0400 From: gduross@temple.edu To: ne-raves@hyperreal.org X-Mailer: Webmail Mirapoint Direct 3.3.5-GR MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <75fc0317.a6f9997f.81af000@po-a.temple.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Worst Outlaw Experince failing to see that my cell phone had 3 messages saying not to goto a party and then pulling onto a dirt road and driving right into the police bust. they pulled me out of my car and sat me in a circle with the other busty's. then made me lean with my hands on the hood of a trooper cruiser for 30 minutes as they ran my information. my redemption came when I succesfully fought the charge in state court and won. From skinner@hyperreal.org Mon Jul 21 16:48:12 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 76867 invoked by uid 1126); 21 Jul 2003 16:48:12 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Jul 2003 16:48:12 -0000 Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 09:48:12 -0700 (PDT) From: skinner To: gduross@temple.edu cc: ne-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <75fc0317.a6f9997f.81af000@po-a.temple.edu> Message-ID: <20030721094650.F76221@taz3.hyperreal.org> References: <75fc0317.a6f9997f.81af000@po-a.temple.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Worst Outlaw Experince On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 gduross@temple.edu wrote: ->failing to see that my cell phone had 3 messages saying not to goto ->a party and then pulling onto a dirt road and driving right into the ->police bust. Lucky enough for all the dj's and the person running the map point (which was pointless since we were under survalance). my girlfriend at the time, called or paged every person who wasn't ther with 5-0 5-0 lucky enough 95% of them were swift enough to get the idea. -- Skinner http://zendiagrams.com http://blackmonolith.com http://industrialstrengthrecords.com From skinner@hyperreal.org Mon Jul 21 16:49:18 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 77049 invoked by uid 1126); 21 Jul 2003 16:49:18 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Jul 2003 16:49:18 -0000 Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 09:49:18 -0700 (PDT) From: skinner To: gduross@temple.edu cc: ne-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <20030721094650.F76221@taz3.hyperreal.org> Message-ID: <20030721094859.Q77007@taz3.hyperreal.org> References: <75fc0317.a6f9997f.81af000@po-a.temple.edu> <20030721094650.F76221@taz3.hyperreal.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Worst Outlaw Experince On Mon, 21 Jul 2003, skinner wrote: ->Lucky enough for all the dj's and the person running the map point ->(which was pointless since we were under survalance). my girlfriend ->at the time, called or paged every person who wasn't ther with 5-0 ->5-0 lucky enough 95% of them were swift enough to get the idea. er re: the party I got swat teamned on heh.... -- Skinner http://zendiagrams.com http://blackmonolith.com http://industrialstrengthrecords.com From jasper@hyperreal.org Tue Jul 22 02:28:07 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 66108 invoked by uid 1046); 22 Jul 2003 02:28:07 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 22 Jul 2003 02:28:07 -0000 Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 19:28:07 -0700 (PDT) From: jasper To: kelly d cc: b o 0 , ne-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <20030720211648.71753.qmail@web10102.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20030721191619.Y72106@taz3.hyperreal.org> References: <20030720211648.71753.qmail@web10102.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Outlaw Experiences On Sun, 20 Jul 2003, kelly d wrote: > As long as I don't have to climb a cliff to get them, > I'm interested. There was one I went to somewhere in > Queens thrown by Charlie & the Renegade Virus crew - > where I had to literally get pushed up the hill bc it > was so steep. =( Hey, was this the one on the 5th? I was kind of excited never having been to an outdoor outlaw before. Was really brutal getting up there and I was eaten alive by mosquitoes as people tried crazy things to get the generator started. Stood around for hours begging anyone to go to his car to get a can of oil. I know someone had some but that was a really sad, sad bunch of people. Some fucker kept announcing he had some oil but wouldn't go get it unless someone gave him free drugs. I wished him great harm but I really wanted him to get fucked up and fall off the mountain and crack his own head open. He obviously wasn't putting it to good use. At least then his body parts could be harvested for some kid with half a brain but genetically defective liver or something. Then trying to get the genny back down the hill only one person helped us while many others walked quickly past us guilt free. Opps, sorry. Maybe I should have posted this to the old and embittered ravers list. No, probably not. Ravers in this area are for the most part worthless. SF here I come :) Jasper From drew_xxx_84@hotmail.com Tue Jul 22 03:04:05 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 74310 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2003 03:04:05 -0000 Received: from law10-f13.law10.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (64.4.15.13) by taz3.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Jul 2003 03:04:05 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 20:04:01 -0700 Received: from 24.62.240.175 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 03:04:01 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.62.240.175] X-Originating-Email: [drew_xxx_84@hotmail.com] From: "b o 0" To: jasper@hyperreal.org, supapimpny@yahoo.com Cc: ne-raves@hyperreal.org Bcc: Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 23:04:01 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jul 2003 03:04:01.0420 (UTC) FILETIME=[E6CFBCC0:01C34FFD] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Outlaw Experiences >Ravers in this area are for the most part worthless. >SF here I come :) yeah, because they're soooo much better out there -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- -Bo0 aim:lilraver1984 chemicalkid8 -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- >From: jasper >To: kelly d >CC: b o 0 , ne-raves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Outlaw Experiences >Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 19:28:07 -0700 (PDT) > >On Sun, 20 Jul 2003, kelly d wrote: > > > As long as I don't have to climb a cliff to get them, > > I'm interested. There was one I went to somewhere in > > Queens thrown by Charlie & the Renegade Virus crew - > > where I had to literally get pushed up the hill bc it > > was so steep. =( > >Hey, was this the one on the 5th? I was kind of excited never having been >to an outdoor outlaw before. Was really brutal getting up there and I was >eaten >alive by mosquitoes as people tried crazy things to get the generator >started. >Stood around for hours begging anyone to go to his car to get a can of oil. >I >know someone had some but that was a really sad, sad bunch of people. Some >fucker kept announcing he had some oil but wouldn't go get it unless >someone >gave him free drugs. I wished him great harm but I really wanted him to get >fucked up and fall off the mountain and crack his own head open. He >obviously >wasn't putting it to good use. At least then his body parts could be >harvested >for some kid with half a brain but genetically defective liver or >something. >Then trying to get the genny back down the hill only one person helped us >while >many others walked quickly past us guilt free. > >Opps, sorry. Maybe I should have posted this to the old and embittered >ravers >list. No, probably not. Ravers in this area are for the most part >worthless. >SF here I come :) > >Jasper > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org > _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From jasper@hyperreal.org Tue Jul 22 03:40:41 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 82306 invoked by uid 1046); 22 Jul 2003 03:40:41 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 22 Jul 2003 03:40:41 -0000 Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 20:40:41 -0700 (PDT) From: jasper To: b o 0 cc: ne-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030721202924.I72106@taz3.hyperreal.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Outlaw Experiences Come on now. I've been around long enough to know SF isn't perfect and they certainly do have their own set of problems. But I mean I am more willing to deal with those problems than the ones here at this point. Example... if we don't have anyone offering oil to get the generator and the party going what's the point of arguing at all? In SF from what I understand there is so much collective coming together they have lots of in fighting and power struggles and whatever. But you can't escape that no matter where you go. What I can't stand here is how cut throat and "every man for himself" it is in NYC. There is a markedly different general attitude in these two areas. There is such a huge population of people in NYC who aren't from here who come to make it big or conquer the world. And that's perfectly fine, really. But it's not so good for coming together and working together as friendly collectives. Trying to make it big and make a name for oneself is generally at odds with a true community spirit. SF may not be much better but I still think it has a bit of hippie spirit left over from way back that is floating around in a good way. Jasper On Mon, 21 Jul 2003, b o 0 wrote: > >Ravers in this area are for the most part worthless. > >SF here I come :) > > yeah, because they're soooo much better out there > > >From: jasper > >To: kelly d > >CC: b o 0 , ne-raves@hyperreal.org > >Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Outlaw Experiences > >Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 19:28:07 -0700 (PDT) > > > >On Sun, 20 Jul 2003, kelly d wrote: > > > > > As long as I don't have to climb a cliff to get them, > > > I'm interested. There was one I went to somewhere in > > > Queens thrown by Charlie & the Renegade Virus crew - > > > where I had to literally get pushed up the hill bc it > > > was so steep. =( > > > >Hey, was this the one on the 5th? I was kind of excited never having been > >to an outdoor outlaw before. Was really brutal getting up there and I was > >eaten > >alive by mosquitoes as people tried crazy things to get the generator > >started. > >Stood around for hours begging anyone to go to his car to get a can of oil. > >I > >know someone had some but that was a really sad, sad bunch of people. Some > >fucker kept announcing he had some oil but wouldn't go get it unless > >someone > >gave him free drugs. I wished him great harm but I really wanted him to get > >fucked up and fall off the mountain and crack his own head open. He > >obviously > >wasn't putting it to good use. At least then his body parts could be > >harvested > >for some kid with half a brain but genetically defective liver or > >something. > >Then trying to get the genny back down the hill only one person helped us > >while > >many others walked quickly past us guilt free. > > > >Opps, sorry. Maybe I should have posted this to the old and embittered > >ravers > >list. No, probably not. Ravers in this area are for the most part > >worthless. > >SF here I come :) > > > >Jasper > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > >For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org > > From drew_xxx_84@hotmail.com Tue Jul 22 03:48:12 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 85242 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2003 03:48:12 -0000 Received: from law10-f111.law10.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (64.4.15.111) by taz3.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Jul 2003 03:48:12 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 20:48:08 -0700 Received: from 24.62.240.175 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 03:48:08 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.62.240.175] X-Originating-Email: [drew_xxx_84@hotmail.com] From: "b o 0" To: jasper@hyperreal.org Cc: ne-raves@hyperreal.org Bcc: Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 23:48:08 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jul 2003 03:48:08.0662 (UTC) FILETIME=[10B0CF60:01C35004] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Outlaw Experiences north eastern parties are known to be more 'raw', but they're also known to be more 'real'. If you throw an outlaw and only allow people you know are cool to go, then it's pretty much a guaranteed cool party, no matter what coast its on. I've gone on bug spray runs, gas runs, lugging shit around, but you can bet i wouldn't have done it for someone i didn't know, only a friend. i'm not really sure if any of what i just said made any sense at all, if it did, cool, if not, i'm really tired and i'll read it later. -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- -Bo0 aim:lilraver1984 chemicalkid8 -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- >From: jasper >To: b o 0 >CC: ne-raves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Outlaw Experiences >Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 20:40:41 -0700 (PDT) > >Come on now. I've been around long enough to know SF isn't perfect and they >certainly do have their own set of problems. But I mean I am more willing >to >deal with those problems than the ones here at this point. > >Example... if we don't have anyone offering oil to get the generator and >the >party going what's the point of arguing at all? In SF from what I >understand >there is so much collective coming together they have lots of in fighting >and >power struggles and whatever. But you can't escape that no matter where you >go. >What I can't stand here is how cut throat and "every man for himself" it is >in >NYC. There is a markedly different general attitude in these two areas. >There is >such a huge population of people in NYC who aren't from here who come to >make it >big or conquer the world. And that's perfectly fine, really. But it's not >so good >for coming together and working together as friendly collectives. Trying to >make >it big and make a name for oneself is generally at odds with a true >community >spirit. > >SF may not be much better but I still think it has a bit of hippie spirit >left >over from way back that is floating around in a good way. > >Jasper > >On Mon, 21 Jul 2003, b o 0 wrote: > > > >Ravers in this area are for the most part worthless. > > >SF here I come :) > > > > yeah, because they're soooo much better out there > > > > >From: jasper > > >To: kelly d > > >CC: b o 0 , ne-raves@hyperreal.org > > >Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Outlaw Experiences > > >Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 19:28:07 -0700 (PDT) > > > > > >On Sun, 20 Jul 2003, kelly d wrote: > > > > > > > As long as I don't have to climb a cliff to get them, > > > > I'm interested. There was one I went to somewhere in > > > > Queens thrown by Charlie & the Renegade Virus crew - > > > > where I had to literally get pushed up the hill bc it > > > > was so steep. =( > > > > > >Hey, was this the one on the 5th? I was kind of excited never having >been > > >to an outdoor outlaw before. Was really brutal getting up there and I >was > > >eaten > > >alive by mosquitoes as people tried crazy things to get the generator > > >started. > > >Stood around for hours begging anyone to go to his car to get a can of >oil. > > >I > > >know someone had some but that was a really sad, sad bunch of people. >Some > > >fucker kept announcing he had some oil but wouldn't go get it unless > > >someone > > >gave him free drugs. I wished him great harm but I really wanted him to >get > > >fucked up and fall off the mountain and crack his own head open. He > > >obviously > > >wasn't putting it to good use. At least then his body parts could be > > >harvested > > >for some kid with half a brain but genetically defective liver or > > >something. > > >Then trying to get the genny back down the hill only one person helped >us > > >while > > >many others walked quickly past us guilt free. > > > > > >Opps, sorry. Maybe I should have posted this to the old and embittered > > >ravers > > >list. No, probably not. Ravers in this area are for the most part > > >worthless. > > >SF here I come :) > > > > > >Jasper > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > >For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org > > > _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From odjallen@glue.umd.edu Tue Jul 22 10:21:20 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 80916 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2003 10:21:20 -0000 Received: from mintaka.isr.umd.edu (128.8.111.4) by taz3.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Jul 2003 10:21:20 -0000 Received: from betelgeuse.isr.umd.edu (IDENT:odjallen@betelgeuse.isr.umd.edu [128.8.111.181]) by mintaka.isr.umd.edu (8.11.6p2/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h6MALEq19549; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 06:21:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (odjallen@localhost) by betelgeuse.isr.umd.edu (8.9.3p2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA04778; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 06:21:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: betelgeuse.isr.umd.edu: odjallen owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 06:21:13 -0400 (EDT) From: j a c k s 0 n X-X-Sender: odjallen@betelgeuse.isr.umd.edu To: eastcoastravescene@yahoogroups.com, ne-jungle-dnb@yahoogroups.com, ne-raves@hyperreal.org, nyc-raves@hyperreal.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: .: New Streaming (and Downloadable) Jungle :. 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From acidgrav@commerce.planet2net.net Tue Jul 22 14:35:50 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Delivered-To: moderator for ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 39809 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2003 14:35:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO commerce.planet2net.net) (205.214.82.96) by taz3.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Jul 2003 14:35:50 -0000 Received: from acidgrav by commerce.planet2net.net with local (Exim 4.20) id 19eyF0-00072Z-R0 for ne-raves@hyperreal.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 10:35:46 -0400 From: "Donde esta " To: ne-raves@hyperreal.org X-Mailer: NeoMail 1.25 X-IPAddress: 127.0.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 10:35:46 -0400 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - commerce.planet2net.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32004 32004] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - commerce.planet2net.net X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Outlaw Experiences > Come on now. I've been around long enough to know SF isn't perfect and they > certainly do have their own set of problems. But I mean I am more willing to > deal with those problems than the ones here at this point. When I was in SF in May, it was a hell of a lot different than out here and much better as far as I'm concerned. You'll still get some of the same pety bullshit that happens out here but, for the most part, the outlaw crews are better organized and better prepared then the crews in the north-east. Plus, the authorities, more often than not, tell you to leave rather than arresting you if you're on the beach or in a park at night. > Example... if we don't have anyone offering oil to get the generator and the > party going what's the point of arguing at all? In SF from what I understand > there is so much collective coming together they have lots of in fighting and > power struggles and whatever. But you can't escape that no matter where you go. This is true. It feels very grade-school in that sense. But, that happens everywhere and is unavoidable once you live with more than one other person. > What I can't stand here is how cut throat and "every man for himself" it is in > NYC. There is a markedly different general attitude in these two areas. There is > such a huge population of people in NYC who aren't from here who come to make it > big or conquer the world. And that's perfectly fine, really. But it's not so good > for coming together and working together as friendly collectives. Man, I really hope there is nobody so stupid as to think they're going to make it big through the NYC outlaw techno scene. > Trying to make > it big and make a name for oneself is generally at odds with a true community > spirit. > > SF may not be much better but I still think it has a bit of hippie spirit left > over from way back that is floating around in a good way. How many warehouses are there in NY with over 20 people contributing towards rent, cooking, repairs, etc. which maximizes everyone's ability to work on art? I can't think of one. Not the same in SF though. Not that it couldn't be done in NYC. But, the climate, both weather-wise and politically, is better for it in SF. ----- Low-Key/Tocsin AIM: DeadSector "I think the American people?I hope the American?I don't think, let me?I hope the American people trust me." --George W. Bush From jasper@hyperreal.org Wed Jul 23 03:10:36 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26056 invoked by uid 1046); 23 Jul 2003 03:10:36 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 23 Jul 2003 03:10:36 -0000 Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 20:10:36 -0700 (PDT) From: jasper To: b o 0 cc: ne-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030722195858.M17507@taz3.hyperreal.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Outlaw Experiences On Mon, 21 Jul 2003, b o 0 wrote: > north eastern parties are known to be more 'raw', but they're also known to > be more 'real'. If you throw an outlaw and only allow people you know are Ok, I understand raw, but I don't think I agree with "real." What the heck does that even mean? Almost all the party kids I meet around here are posturing, social butterflies looking for a party or drug fix. My bad luck? Possibly but to tell you truth the way the rave scene is set up it seems to foster superficial behavior and make the pursuit of hedonistic pleasures a priority. > cool to go, then it's pretty much a guaranteed cool party, no matter what > coast its on. I've gone on bug spray runs, gas runs, lugging shit around, > but you can bet i wouldn't have done it for someone i didn't know, only a > friend. Maybe I was unclear, but it was 3 or 4am and we were all up on the hill already. The decks were setup and the only mising link was getting the generator started. Not everyone knew each other but I am almost sure no one there was more than 2 degress of separation from one another. It was only publicized on relatively private lists and via word of mouth. If you were at a free party and it was obvious the people doing it were having problems do you really have to be their best friend to help out? Now that's exaclty what I am talking about with the attitude problem in these parts. Tons of kids looking the other way and looking down while we're lugging gear back down the hill. I am pretty jadded but I have had some nice recent experiences that I will elaborate in the reply to Lowkey. Jasper > >From: jasper > >To: b o 0 > >CC: ne-raves@hyperreal.org > > > >Come on now. I've been around long enough to know SF isn't perfect and they > >certainly do have their own set of problems. But I mean I am more willing > >to > >deal with those problems than the ones here at this point. > > > >Example... if we don't have anyone offering oil to get the generator and > >the > >party going what's the point of arguing at all? In SF from what I > >understand > >there is so much collective coming together they have lots of in fighting > >and > >power struggles and whatever. But you can't escape that no matter where you > >go. > >What I can't stand here is how cut throat and "every man for himself" it is > >in > >NYC. There is a markedly different general attitude in these two areas. > >There is > >such a huge population of people in NYC who aren't from here who come to > >make it > >big or conquer the world. And that's perfectly fine, really. But it's not > >so good > >for coming together and working together as friendly collectives. Trying to > >make > >it big and make a name for oneself is generally at odds with a true > >community > >spirit. > > > >SF may not be much better but I still think it has a bit of hippie spirit > >left > >over from way back that is floating around in a good way. > > > >Jasper > > From supapimpny@yahoo.com Wed Jul 23 03:44:16 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 30285 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2003 03:44:16 -0000 Received: from web10108.mail.yahoo.com (216.136.130.58) by taz3.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Jul 2003 03:44:16 -0000 Message-ID: <20030723034412.49900.qmail@web10108.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.188.248.101] by web10108.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 20:44:12 PDT Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 20:44:12 -0700 (PDT) From: kelly d To: Donde esta , ne-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Outlaw Experiences --- Donde esta wrote: > How many warehouses are there in NY with over > 20 people > contributing towards rent, cooking, repairs, etc. > which maximizes > everyone's ability to work on art? I can't think of > one. Not the same > in SF though. Not that it couldn't be done in NYC. > But, the climate, > both weather-wise and politically, is better for it > in SF. LUNATARIUM! the lower floors are for starving artists. Nuff said. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From jasper@hyperreal.org Wed Jul 23 03:45:44 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 30608 invoked by uid 1046); 23 Jul 2003 03:45:44 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 23 Jul 2003 03:45:44 -0000 Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 20:45:44 -0700 (PDT) From: jasper To: Donde esta cc: ne-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030722201045.J17507@taz3.hyperreal.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Outlaw Experiences On Tue, 22 Jul 2003, Donde esta wrote: > When I was in SF in May, it was a hell of a lot different than out > here and much better as far as I'm concerned. You'll still get some of > the same pety bullshit that happens out here but, for the most part, the > outlaw crews are better organized and better prepared then the crews in > the north-east. Plus, the authorities, more often than not, tell you to > leave rather than arresting you if you're on the beach or in a park at > night. Wish I could actually go out to SF to check things out for myself but for the moment I only participate online. I joined the SF-Raves list to see how they did things and I posted some random note asking how they managed to get their shit together and actually do events together. In a matter of days I was invited to join their private SF Planners list. Months and years now of open requests to the NYC list for help and the only responses were self-promoting DJs wanting to play but barely a response for good honest behind the scenes help. And in one week I learned more just listneing in on the SF Planner's list. Sure they argue a lot but hell they actually do some pretty nice and successful events now and then. > > What I can't stand here is how cut throat and "every man for himself" > it is in > > NYC. There is a markedly different general attitude in these two > areas. There is > > such a huge population of people in NYC who aren't from here who come > to make it > > big or conquer the world. And that's perfectly fine, really. But it's > not so good > > for coming together and working together as friendly collectives. > > Man, I really hope there is nobody so stupid as to think they're > going to make it big through the NYC outlaw techno scene. Not exactly blow up the outlaw scene but get big by blowing up _through_ the outlaw scene. After all these years it still amazes me to see famous people play at tiny little joints around NYC. Saw Selway at some puny place in Williamsburg and he and others played illegal parties at that spot in Chinatown. And then Selway was guest DJing on KROC last weekend. I imagine it's not so hard to move up the ranks here if you bust your ass and blow the right people. They really all do come through here at some point or another. In the past few years I've had many friends from someplace else leave NYC after getting burned out here. By "make it big" I don't mean just in the rave scene but pretty much everything and all industries here, e.g. theater, film, dot-com, fashion, writing, etc. I honestly do think people from elsewhere buy into the idea of making it big in NYC. It's can get pretty glamourous but reveals its ugliness pretty quickly. > How many warehouses are there in NY with over 20 people > contributing towards rent, cooking, repairs, etc. which maximizes > everyone's ability to work on art? I can't think of one. Not the same > in SF though. Not that it couldn't be done in NYC. But, the climate, > both weather-wise and politically, is better for it in SF. Exactly! I think we spoke about this briefly and possibilities of doing this in Newark. But you and T-bone moved further in NJ. I have been trying to find people to go in on a project like this for years. Jack and Janel from Havoc have since relocated to the Spaz warehouse in SF after years of negativity here. Nic and Mony from Havoc are coupled up and probably don't want to put up with the nonsense of NYC communal living understanably. Will from Complacent is a really cool guy and is pursuing more substantive projects instead of straight up partying which is great. And those are the people I would most like to live with. Amoeba just had their gear ripped off and luckily got most of it back by accident when they saw their neighbor across the street trying to move a large rack of gear. Nic and I were just talking about this and how difficult it is to find people you trust to carry their own weight let alone contribute to a collective effort. I'm not sure how much transportation has to do with the difference in culture and attitude but I'm sure it's a factor. CA has such a strong car culture and the crews out there are very mobile. It's not uncommon for different people to go out an hour or two to scout areas. I think I know one or two people in NYC who actually own a vehicle. It's not only personal mobility but moving equipment and building materials. Stuff just happens more quickly with a car and sometimes it's entirely impossible to do things without one. It's really great to have this disscussion. Maybe someone can share some insight on how to make this work because I don't have a clue and I haven't given up yet. Jasper From jasper@hyperreal.org Wed Jul 23 03:49:07 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 31353 invoked by uid 1046); 23 Jul 2003 03:49:07 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 23 Jul 2003 03:49:07 -0000 Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 20:49:07 -0700 (PDT) From: jasper To: kelly d cc: Donde esta , ne-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <20030723034412.49900.qmail@web10108.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20030722204624.R17507@taz3.hyperreal.org> References: <20030723034412.49900.qmail@web10108.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Outlaw Experiences On Tue, 22 Jul 2003, kelly d wrote: > --- Donde esta wrote: > > How many warehouses are there in NY with over > > 20 people > > contributing towards rent, cooking, repairs, etc. > > which maximizes > > everyone's ability to work on art? I can't think of > > one. Not the same > > in SF though. Not that it couldn't be done in NYC. > > But, the climate, > > both weather-wise and politically, is better for it > > in SF. > > LUNATARIUM! the lower floors are for starving artists. > Nuff said. As far as I know there isn't a Lunatarium collective. It's just a space for rent. Are the lower floors actually large loft spaces shared by small groups doing collective projects or just individual artists working and living like much of Brooklyn? Read Lowkey's description again and let me know if the Lunatrium fits that. I doubt it. Jasper From acidgrav@commerce.planet2net.net Wed Jul 23 04:42:28 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 43700 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2003 04:42:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO commerce.planet2net.net) (205.214.82.96) by taz3.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Jul 2003 04:42:28 -0000 Received: from acidgrav by commerce.planet2net.net with local (Exim 4.20) id 19fBSC-0007iZ-T5 for ne-raves@hyperreal.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 00:42:16 -0400 From: "Donde esta " To: ne-raves@hyperreal.org X-Mailer: NeoMail 1.25 X-IPAddress: 127.0.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 00:42:16 -0400 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - commerce.planet2net.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32004 32004] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - commerce.planet2net.net X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Outlaw Experiences > LUNATARIUM! the lower floors are for starving artists. > Nuff said. It's not the same at all. In SF, the outlaw crews are not individual tenants in one space. Rather it is a collective. When you livein the collective space, everyone votes on what occurs with the collective. Considering the number of people that live in the space, the rent is for an entire warehouse, not an individual spot. It is basically communism. Due to the number of people putting in towards core living expenses, more people are able to spend time working on their art, rather than a 9-5 for paying the bills. There are plenty of spots for starving artists in NYC. However, most do not have a core community pursuing one collective mission while working with each other to make it mutually beneficial for everyone. SF simply has a better climate for this since, if it were to occur in NYC, the police would end quickly based on zoning restrictions. SF, which is accustomed to and more tolerant towards a hippy type commune life, doesn't seek to break it up as fast. ----- Low-Key/Tocsin AIM: DeadSector "I think the American people?I hope the American?I don't think, let me? I hope the American people trust me." --George W. Bush From drew_xxx_84@hotmail.com Wed Jul 23 05:00:21 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 47190 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2003 05:00:21 -0000 Received: from law10-f93.law10.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (64.4.15.93) by taz3.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Jul 2003 05:00:21 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 22:00:16 -0700 Received: from 24.62.240.175 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 05:00:16 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.62.240.175] X-Originating-Email: [drew_xxx_84@hotmail.com] From: "b o 0" To: jasper@hyperreal.org Cc: ne-raves@hyperreal.org Bcc: Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 01:00:16 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jul 2003 05:00:16.0730 (UTC) FILETIME=[4ED553A0:01C350D7] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Outlaw Experiences >Ok, I understand raw, but I don't think I agree with "real." What the heck >does >that even mean? it means that they aren't ">social butterflies looking for a party or drug fix." if you think it's bad on this coast... >tell you truth the way the rave scene is set up it seems to foster >superficial >behavior and make the pursuit of hedonistic pleasures a priority. superficial it may be, but if you don't like it.......... leave. But don't skip town thinking it's better anywhere else, because you'll be sorely mistaken. >If you were at a free party and it was >obvious the people doing it were having problems do you really have to be >their >best friend to help out? if it was 3 or 4:00 in the morning and the party hadn't STARTED yet because the crew was having problems... i'd go HOME. Going to a rave and being asked by a stranger to fix their shit is like going to a house party and being asked if you know anyone old enough to buy beer. if you throw a party you shouldn't need to rely on the help of strangers to do it. If theirs any reason as to why parties "suck nowadays" it's because the people who throw parties don't put effort into it. When i dj a party, or when i am involved in throwing one, i make DAMN sure everything is in working order before my set, and before the party starts. It's called knowing what your doing and not trusting 'friends' who don't show up. >I am pretty jadded Why? I've never seen the point in being jaded. All it does is create negativity in a place where "everything is equal, and no one brings any stereotypes or grudges on the dancefloor", which by the way, it was NEVER like. I don't know how long you've been partying for, but it was never orriginaly meant to be a transcendental society. All that crap came from the drugs people were on. personaly, i see the party scene as being better now than it was 2 years ago, a lot of the people who show up simply to dose aren't there anymore. I mean, i haven't seen members of my highschool football teem at a party since 2001, so something good must be happening. -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- -Bo0 aim:lilraver1984 chemicalkid8 -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- >From: jasper >To: b o 0 >CC: ne-raves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Outlaw Experiences >Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 20:10:36 -0700 (PDT) > >On Mon, 21 Jul 2003, b o 0 wrote: > > > north eastern parties are known to be more 'raw', but they're also known >to > > be more 'real'. If you throw an outlaw and only allow people you know >are > > > > cool to go, then it's pretty much a guaranteed cool party, no matter >what > > coast its on. I've gone on bug spray runs, gas runs, lugging shit >around, > > but you can bet i wouldn't have done it for someone i didn't know, only >a > > friend. > >Maybe I was unclear, but it was 3 or 4am and we were all up on the hill >already. >The decks were setup and the only mising link was getting the generator >started. >Not everyone knew each other but I am almost sure no one there was more >than 2 >degress of separation from one another. It was only publicized on >relatively >private lists and via word of mouth. > >Now that's exaclty what I am talking about with the attitude problem in >these >parts. Tons of kids looking the other way and looking down while we're >lugging >gear back down the hill. but I have had some nice recent >experiences that I will elaborate in the reply to Lowkey. > >Jasper > > > >From: jasper > > >To: b o 0 > > >CC: ne-raves@hyperreal.org > > > > > >Come on now. I've been around long enough to know SF isn't perfect and >they > > >certainly do have their own set of problems. But I mean I am more >willing > > >to > > >deal with those problems than the ones here at this point. > > > > > >Example... if we don't have anyone offering oil to get the generator >and > > >the > > >party going what's the point of arguing at all? In SF from what I > > >understand > > >there is so much collective coming together they have lots of in >fighting > > >and > > >power struggles and whatever. But you can't escape that no matter where >you > > >go. > > >What I can't stand here is how cut throat and "every man for himself" >it is > > >in > > >NYC. There is a markedly different general attitude in these two areas. > > >There is > > >such a huge population of people in NYC who aren't from here who come >to > > >make it > > >big or conquer the world. And that's perfectly fine, really. But it's >not > > >so good > > >for coming together and working together as friendly collectives. >Trying to > > >make > > >it big and make a name for oneself is generally at odds with a true > > >community > > >spirit. > > > > > >SF may not be much better but I still think it has a bit of hippie >spirit > > >left > > >over from way back that is floating around in a good way. > > > > > >Jasper > > > _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From jasper@hyperreal.org Wed Jul 23 06:17:02 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 60334 invoked by uid 1046); 23 Jul 2003 06:17:02 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 23 Jul 2003 06:17:02 -0000 Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 23:17:02 -0700 (PDT) From: jasper To: b o 0 cc: ne-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030722222756.R17507@taz3.hyperreal.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Outlaw Experiences Wow! Your words speak volumes and couldn't be a better example of what I was trying to say are some of the biggest problems here. I am very curious to hear others weigh in because I don't want to this to become any more of a one-on-one thing than it already might be. On Wed, 23 Jul 2003, b o 0 wrote: > >tell you truth the way the rave scene is set up it seems to foster > >superficial > >behavior and make the pursuit of hedonistic pleasures a priority. > > superficial it may be, but if you don't like it.......... leave. This is the weakest and most typical response of the ignorant. Is this really how you respond to dissenting views? Now if you really wanted to engage me in an intelligent discussion you might have asked me what I suggest as solutions. > But don't skip town thinking it's better anywhere else, because you'll be > sorely mistaken. I'll decide that for myself. And you're right I won't leave with delusions of greener pastures but I would leave temporarily and learn from others and hopefully bring back home what I've learned. The SF list has already been extremely helpful to me, a complete stranger, which is more than I can say for the lists here. > >If you were at a free party and it was > >obvious the people doing it were having problems do you really have to be > >their > >best friend to help out? > > if it was 3 or 4:00 in the morning and the party hadn't STARTED yet because > the crew was having problems... i'd go HOME. Going to a rave and being asked > by a stranger to fix their shit is like going to a house party and being > asked if you know anyone old enough to buy beer. > > if you throw a party you shouldn't need to rely on the help of strangers to > do it. If theirs any reason as to why parties "suck nowadays" it's because > the people who throw parties don't put effort into it. When i dj a party, or > when i am involved in throwing one, i make DAMN sure everything is in > working order before my set, and before the party starts. It's called > knowing what your doing and not trusting 'friends' who don't show up. Again I am stunned by your response. But maybe I shouldn't be. If people with similar attitudes to yours would just leave that would be wonderful. It makes the job of weeding out the people I'd rather not assosiate with even easier. I've done many events and been to many events. Some projects go off without a hitch but most of the time something goes wrong. It's not like we were asking anyone to donate a kidney. We just asked if anyone had a bottle of oil to spare for the collective enjoyment and appreciation of all. If you don't understand this I'm not sure what else to say to you. I can't tell you how many cool people I've met and have become friends with by lending a hand when I see someone in obvious need of assistance. This is truly what it boils down to. Do you stop and help or do you keep on walking? > >I am pretty jaded > > Why? I've never seen the point in being jaded. All it does is create > negativity in a place where "everything is equal, and no one brings any > stereotypes or grudges on the dancefloor", which by the way, it was NEVER > like. I don't know how long you've been partying for, but it was never > orriginaly meant to be a transcendental society. All that crap came from the > drugs people were on. Jaded is an ever changing state of being. Can't I be happy one day and sad the next? I may be jaded but I don't consider myself paralyzed by pessimism. Being jadded indeed does no one any good. But I don't plan for it to be a permanent state of being and I am doing everything I can to dispel my jadedness. Where are you getting that quote from? I hope you aren't implying that I said that or believe that. > personaly, i see the party scene as being better now than it was 2 years > ago, a lot of the people who show up simply to dose aren't there anymore. I > mean, i haven't seen members of my highschool football teem at a party since > 2001, so something good must be happening. We're talking about two different views of two different locales. There really isn't a right or wrong to what either of us has said. It's not like we're arguing whether people in the NE have three heads. If this thread turns up even one friendly face with similar mindset it will have all been worth it. Even if it doesn't, I believe public forums where people can voice differing opinions are essential for communal growth and unstanding. I still can't believe you pulled out that, "if you don't like it.......... leave," crap. Gave me a good laugh. I have you to thank for showing me some light. I believe in equilibrium so if there are people like you than there are certainly people who are your polar opposite. I have newfound focus. Thank you. Jasper From acidgrav@commerce.planet2net.net Wed Jul 23 12:52:37 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18827 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2003 12:52:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO commerce.planet2net.net) (205.214.82.96) by taz3.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Jul 2003 12:52:37 -0000 Received: from acidgrav by commerce.planet2net.net with local (Exim 4.20) id 19fJ6g-0004FA-8Q; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 08:52:34 -0400 From: "Donde esta " To: "b o 0" CC: ne-raves@hyperreal.org X-Mailer: NeoMail 1.25 X-IPAddress: 127.0.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 08:52:34 -0400 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - commerce.planet2net.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32004 32004] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - commerce.planet2net.net X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Outlaw Experiences > But don't skip town thinking it's better anywhere else, because you'll be > sorely mistaken. You're just wrong. Massives are about the same everywhere in the states, Outlaws, however, are not. Having experienced the outlaw scene in the NW region of the US in the late90's and very briefly again in May, I can safely tell you that NYC doesn't have anything nearly as good. > if it was 3 or 4:00 in the morning and the party hadn't STARTED yet because > the crew was having problems... i'd go HOME. Going to a rave and being asked > by a stranger to fix their shit is like going to a house party and being > asked if you know anyone old enough to buy beer. > > if you throw a party you shouldn't need to rely on the help of strangers to > do it. If theirs any reason as to why parties "suck nowadays" it's because > the people who throw parties don't put effort into it. That just shows you are looking for a pay party where everything is taken care of for you. Outlaw parties are usually free and based on a sense of cummunity. The community is lacking in NYC. Honestly, if you're not willing to help out at a free party just because you are there, you probably don't belong there. > When i dj a party, or > when i am involved in throwing one, i make DAMN sure everything is in > working order before my set, and before the party starts. It's called > knowing what your doing and not trusting 'friends' who don't show up. That's easy to say when you're using a club. When using a spot that can't be safely accessed until a certain time, however, you have to rely on others. If something gets fucked up and nobody is willing to help, the wrong people were there. > Why? I've never seen the point in being jaded. All it does is create > negativity in a place where "everything is equal, and no one brings any > stereotypes or grudges on the dancefloor", which by the way, it was NEVER > like. I don't know how long you've been partying for, but it was never > orriginaly meant to be a transcendental society. All that crap came from the > drugs people were on. Not true either. There are plenty of people that have experienced and pushed for raves to be exactly the way you say they never were. For every person to say it was about one thing, it's just as silly to say the exact opposite is true given the number of people involved. > personaly, i see the party scene as being better now than it was 2 years > ago, a lot of the people who show up simply to dose aren't there anymore. I > mean, i haven't seen members of my highschool football teem at a party since > 2001, so something good must be happening. Why? Well over 2 years ago, it didn't matter where you were in life to go to a rave. People didn't pick you out as a narc or dealer based on different dress until the people who didn't want to arty with jocks came along. BTW, I've played at frat parties which had a closer feeling and spirit f rave than a lot of the so-called "raves" in this area. ----- Low-Key/Tocsin AIM: DeadSector "I think the American people?I hope the American?I don't think, let me? I hope the American people trust me." --George W. Bush From acidgrav@commerce.planet2net.net Wed Jul 23 14:22:00 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 43535 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2003 14:22:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO commerce.planet2net.net) (205.214.82.96) by taz3.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Jul 2003 14:22:00 -0000 Received: from acidgrav by commerce.planet2net.net with local (Exim 4.20) id 19fKVA-0004u3-QS; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 10:21:56 -0400 From: "Donde esta " To: jasper ,ne-raves@hyperreal.org X-Mailer: NeoMail 1.25 X-IPAddress: 127.0.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 10:21:56 -0400 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - commerce.planet2net.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32004 32004] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - commerce.planet2net.net X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Outlaw Experiences > > superficial it may be, but if you don't like it.......... leave. > > This is the weakest and most typical response of the ignorant. Is this really > how you respond to dissenting views? Now if you really wanted to engage me in an > intelligent discussion you might have asked me what I suggest as solutions. Agreed. "Love it or leave it" is stupid no matter what context it's brought up in. Nobody will abandon what they truly love. You work to make it the best it can be. > I'll decide that for myself. And you're right I won't leave with delusions of > greener pastures but I would leave temporarily and learn from others and > hopefully bring back home what I've learned. The SF list has already been > extremely helpful to me, a complete stranger, which is more than I can say for > the lists here. I wouldn't sweat it. You're obviously having a discussion with someone who has never experienced the organized outlaw scene in SF. It's really not comparable to NY in the slightest. Even when people are petty in certain regards, most people have a core belief in sharing and it shows. Some people are still fake. But the number of people that are genuine more than make-up for the bad seeds. The scene is simply more open as a result. > I've done many events and been to many events. Some projects go off without a > hitch but most of the time something goes wrong. It's not like we were asking > anyone to donate a kidney. We just asked if anyone had a bottle of oil to spare > for the collective enjoyment and appreciation of all. If you don't understand > this I'm not sure what else to say to you. If you're going to enjoy a free party, you should expect to help if asked. Simple enough. > Jaded is an ever changing state of being. Can't I be happy one day and sad the > next? I may be jaded but I don't consider myself paralyzed by pessimism. You're not jaded. "Jaded" people are those who are pissed about not being superstars after spending too much money in the rave scene for a lengthy period of 1 year. ;) The jaded leave. If you think about it Jasper, the scenes you've experienced in NYC are pretty far on the fringes for techno music and neither you nor myself experience what it is to make people "jaded" with the rave scene as much anymore. I dunno. I get tired of hearing the word "jaded." It's become the silly raver insult of equivalancy to "hater." 'You don't like what I'm doing because you're jaded.' Those with the "just leave" attitude are usually the ones who take on the jaded persona. ----- Low-Key/Tocsin AIM: DeadSector "I think the American people?I hope the American?I don't think, let me?I hope the American people trust me." --George W. Bush From drew_xxx_84@hotmail.com Wed Jul 23 16:25:55 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7346 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2003 16:25:55 -0000 Received: from law10-f46.law10.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (64.4.15.46) by taz3.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Jul 2003 16:25:55 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 09:25:54 -0700 Received: from 24.62.240.175 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 16:25:53 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.62.240.175] X-Originating-Email: [drew_xxx_84@hotmail.com] From: "b o 0" To: jasper@hyperreal.org Cc: ne-raves@hyperreal.org Bcc: Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 12:25:53 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jul 2003 16:25:54.0054 (UTC) FILETIME=[1696D260:01C35137] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Outlaw Experiences >Wow! Your words speak volumes and couldn't be a better example of what I >was >trying to say are some of the biggest problems here. I am very curious to >hear >others weigh in because I don't want to this to become any more of a >one-on-one thing than it already might be. So you have a problem with someone who believes that a promoter shouldn't rely on perfect strangers to pull off a party? You have a problem with someone who thinks that if someone is going to throw a rave, they should do it right? Especialy the way the kids in the party scene are today, a promoter should just at least ASSUME he wont get any help from people he doesnt know. Like you said earlier, full of drug addicts and others of the like. >This is the weakest and most typical response of the ignorant. Is this >really >how you respond to dissenting views? Now if you really wanted to engage me >in an >intelligent discussion you might have asked me what I suggest as solutions. You seem like you've already got your solution: moving to san francisco. >I'll decide that for myself. And you're right I won't leave with delusions >of >greener pastures but I would leave temporarily and learn from others and >hopefully bring back home what I've learned. The SF list has already been >extremely helpful to me, a complete stranger, which is more than I can say >for >the lists here. yeah, the lists here do suck suck sometimes. But then again, for outlaw-ing, one should never use the internet anyway. >Again I am stunned by your response. But maybe I shouldn't be. If people >with similar attitudes to yours would just leave that would be wonderful. >It >makes the job of weeding out the people I'd rather not assosiate with even >easier. oh come now, without people like me, the parties that DO go off without a hitch wouldn't happen :). You'd be left with promoters who need to rely on strangers to pull off a party. >Jaded is an ever changing state of being. Can't I be happy one day and sad >the >next? I may be jaded but I don't consider myself paralyzed by pessimism. >Being >jadded indeed does no one any good. But I don't plan for it to be a >permanent >state of being and I am doing everything I can to dispel my jadedness. that's cool, but what i was trying to say was that partying wasn't actualy any better 5 years ago, and the reason i said the whole paragraph about being "equal and no grudges" was because people seem to think that it was like that back then, when i've never met anyone who can tell me it was. It was the ecstacy and the naive-ness (a word??) that makes people think it was better back then. >Where are you getting that quote from? I hope you aren't implying that I >said >that or believe that. i should have asked Why your jaded. >I still can't believe you pulled out that, "if you don't like it.......... >leave," >crap. Gave me a good laugh. I have you to thank for showing me some light. >I >believe in equilibrium so if there are people like you than there are >certainly >people who are your polar opposite. I have newfound focus. Thank you. Any time bro. But i'm not exactly sure what your looking for: people to help you down a mountain... or ravers. -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- -Bo0 aim:lilraver1984 chemicalkid8 -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- >From: jasper >To: b o 0 >CC: ne-raves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Outlaw Experiences >Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 23:17:02 -0700 (PDT) > > >On Wed, 23 Jul 2003, b o 0 wrote: > > > >tell you truth the way the rave scene is set up it seems to foster > > >superficial > > >behavior and make the pursuit of hedonistic pleasures a priority. > > > > superficial it may be, but if you don't like it.......... leave. > > > > But don't skip town thinking it's better anywhere else, because you'll >be > > sorely mistaken. > > > > >If you were at a free party and it was > > >obvious the people doing it were having problems do you really have to >be > > >their > > >best friend to help out? > > > > if it was 3 or 4:00 in the morning and the party hadn't STARTED yet >because > > the crew was having problems... i'd go HOME. Going to a rave and being >asked > > by a stranger to fix their shit is like going to a house party and being > > asked if you know anyone old enough to buy beer. > > > > if you throw a party you shouldn't need to rely on the help of strangers >to > > do it. If theirs any reason as to why parties "suck nowadays" it's >because > > the people who throw parties don't put effort into it. When i dj a >party, or > > when i am involved in throwing one, i make DAMN sure everything is in > > working order before my set, and before the party starts. It's called > > knowing what your doing and not trusting 'friends' who don't show up. > > > > > > >I am pretty jaded > > > > Why? I've never seen the point in being jaded. All it does is create > > negativity in a place where "everything is equal, and no one brings any > > stereotypes or grudges on the dancefloor", which by the way, it was >NEVER > > like. I don't know how long you've been partying for, but it was never > > orriginaly meant to be a transcendental society. All that crap came from >the > > drugs people were on. > > > > > personaly, i see the party scene as being better now than it was 2 years > > ago, a lot of the people who show up simply to dose aren't there >anymore. I > > mean, i haven't seen members of my highschool football teem at a party >since > > 2001, so something good must be happening. > >We're talking about two different views of two different locales. There >really >isn't a right or wrong to what either of us has said. It's not like we're >arguing whether people in the NE have three heads. > > >Jasper _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From acidgrav@commerce.planet2net.net Wed Jul 23 16:40:08 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13200 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2003 16:40:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO commerce.planet2net.net) (205.214.82.96) by taz3.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Jul 2003 16:40:08 -0000 Received: from acidgrav by commerce.planet2net.net with local (Exim 4.20) id 19fMem-0006zX-2C; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 12:40:00 -0400 From: "Donde esta " To: "b o 0" ,jasper@hyperreal.org,ne-raves@hyperreal.org X-Mailer: NeoMail 1.25 X-IPAddress: 127.0.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 12:40:00 -0400 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - commerce.planet2net.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32004 32004] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - commerce.planet2net.net X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Outlaw Experiences > So you have a problem with someone who believes that a promoter shouldn't > rely on perfect strangers to pull off a party? You aren't hearing what's being discussed. It's not an issue of relying on others to throw your party for you. It's an issue of being able to depend on others to get involved when something goes wrong. When you throw an outlaw party, something is going to go wrong somewhere along the way. If everyone is so self-interested to either stand around, yell at others to do something, or simply leave, the partty will fail. That's how it works. > You have a problem with > someone who thinks that if someone is going to throw a rave, they should do > it right? No rave is done right if the people at the party are unwilling to take part. What helps distinguish raves from concerts and other music events is that you are a part of the experience for everyone, not just a member of an audience there to see an act. > Especialy the way the kids in the party scene are today, a > promoter should just at least ASSUME he wont get any help from people he > doesnt know. If it's being held at a club, sure. But, that promoter will have hired people and paid money to make sure things go smoothly. > You seem like you've already got your solution: moving to san francisco. He said he was going to check it out. Have you been to any of the outlaws in SF? > oh come now, without people like me, the parties that DO go off without a > hitch wouldn't happen :). You'd be left with promoters who need to rely on > strangers to pull off a party. No. You're a dime a dozen already. But, what you describe simply won't work in an outlaw environment. I invite you to throw one that isn't in your friend's backyard and come back saying the same things. > that's cool, but what i was trying to say was that partying wasn't actualy > any better 5 years ago, and the reason i said the whole paragraph about > being "equal and no grudges" was because people seem to think that it was > like that back then, when i've never met anyone who can tell me it was. You just met one. And this is coming from someone who wasn't chomping E or doing anything other than having a couple drinks before a party at the time. In 1996, if not earlier, there was a noticable change in the attitude of many people attending raves for me. Doesn't mean things were better before then. But, pre-96, not once did I ever hear anyone make excuses as to why they shouldn't expect people to help. The unity came from being part of the experience. If something messed up, even in a legit venue, people did what they could to help. > It > was the ecstacy and the naive-ness (a word??) that makes people think it was > better back then. No. A lot of it was closer to the roots of being a movement that was shunned by the mainstream and doing it's own thing. There was a sense of unity in that. As it became more mainstream, you got types who either greatly exagerated this idea of PLUR, or called all of it bullshit out of spite for never experiencing it. For the type of parties that could pull a few thousand, it was a lot better back then. Now, the music has just shifted to venues of smaller capacity. I'm still quite happy with the way things are going. But, if I were to focus solely on massives, then yes, things were better back then. ----- Low-Key/Tocsin AIM: DeadSector "I think the American people?I hope the American?I don't think, let me?I hope the American people trust me." --George W. Bush From drew_xxx_84@hotmail.com Wed Jul 23 16:46:23 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14934 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2003 16:46:23 -0000 Received: from law10-f107.law10.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (64.4.15.107) by taz3.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Jul 2003 16:46:23 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 09:46:21 -0700 Received: from 24.62.240.175 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 16:46:16 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.62.240.175] X-Originating-Email: [drew_xxx_84@hotmail.com] From: "b o 0" To: lowkey@acidgrave.com Cc: ne-raves@hyperreal.org Bcc: Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 12:46:16 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jul 2003 16:46:21.0671 (UTC) FILETIME=[F24E4F70:01C35139] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Outlaw Experiences > You're just wrong. Massives are about the same everywhere in the >states, Outlaws, however, are not. Having experienced the outlaw >scene in the NW region of the US in the late90's and very briefly again >in May, I can safely tell you that NYC doesn't have anything nearly as >good. oh good, i wont live in NYC then. Ever been to an outlaw in NH or maine? > That just shows you are looking for a pay party where everything is >taken care of for you. Outlaw parties are usually free and based on a >sense of cummunity. The community is lacking in NYC. Honestly, if >you're not willing to help out at a free party just because you are >there, you probably don't belong there. since when is throwing a party part of any community? If throwing a party should mimic any form of government, it should mimic a monarchy, not communism. Unless of course you've found people that like to use E. if it mimics a monarchy then one person gets to decide how everything goes, and there is much less confusion. Or perhaps it should be a small collective of people who decide what to do as a small group. Either way, it shouldn't involve the party goers themselves. > That's easy to say when you're using a club. When using a spot >that can't be safely accessed until a certain time, however, you have >to rely on others. If something gets fucked up and nobody is willing >to help, the wrong people were there. i wasn't talking about using a club. I see what your saying about times and not being able to get into a place before a certain time, etc etc. Yes, you may have to rely on others... but not STRANGERS. Generaly you have a crew helping you with a party right? > Not true either. There are plenty of people that have experienced >and pushed for raves to be exactly the way you say they never were. >For every person to say it was about one thing, it's just as silly to >say the exact opposite is true given the number of people involved. i heard someone say, once, that "instead of fighting over what Rave ACTUALY was, why not fight to make it something it NEVER was." And i guess that's a good thing if you believe it CAN be that way, but i'm not sure it ever can. It would def be pretty cool, but especialy the way kids (in general, not only ravers) are today, i doubt it could ever happen. > Why? Well over 2 years ago, it didn't matter where you were in >life to go to a rave. People didn't pick you out as a narc or dealer >based on different dress until the people who didn't want to arty with >jocks came along. BTW, I've played at frat parties which had a closer >feeling and spirit f rave than a lot of the so-called "raves" in this >area. i was using my football team as an example of a group of people who went to parties to use drugs, and that's it. They don't go to parties anymore to use drugs because they can find those drugs on the street now easier than at a rave. Do you see what i'm trying to say? It's not that they're on the football team that bothers me. -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- -Bo0 aim:lilraver1984 chemicalkid8 -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- >From: "Donde esta " >To: "b o 0" >CC: ne-raves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Outlaw Experiences >Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 08:52:34 -0400 > > > > But don't skip town thinking it's better anywhere else, because >you'll be > > sorely mistaken. > > > > if it was 3 or 4:00 in the morning and the party hadn't STARTED yet >because > > the crew was having problems... i'd go HOME. Going to a rave and >being asked > > by a stranger to fix their shit is like going to a house party and >being > > asked if you know anyone old enough to buy beer. > > > > if you throw a party you shouldn't need to rely on the help of >strangers to > > do it. If theirs any reason as to why parties "suck nowadays" it's >because > > the people who throw parties don't put effort into it. > > > > When i dj a party, or > > when i am involved in throwing one, i make DAMN sure everything is in > > working order before my set, and before the party starts. It's called > > knowing what your doing and not trusting 'friends' who don't show up. > > > > Why? I've never seen the point in being jaded. All it does is create > > negativity in a place where "everything is equal, and no one brings >any > > stereotypes or grudges on the dancefloor", which by the way, it was >NEVER > > like. I don't know how long you've been partying for, but it was >never > > orriginaly meant to be a transcendental society. All that crap came >from the > > drugs people were on. > > > > personaly, i see the party scene as being better now than it was 2 >years > > ago, a lot of the people who show up simply to dose aren't there >anymore. I > > mean, i haven't seen members of my highschool football teem at a >party since > > 2001, so something good must be happening. > > >----- >Low-Key/Tocsin >AIM: DeadSector > >"I think the American people?I hope the American?I don't think, let me? >I >hope the American people trust me." > --George W. Bush > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org > _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From acidgrav@commerce.planet2net.net Wed Jul 23 16:58:16 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19454 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2003 16:58:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO commerce.planet2net.net) (205.214.82.96) by taz3.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Jul 2003 16:58:16 -0000 Received: from acidgrav by commerce.planet2net.net with local (Exim 4.20) id 19fMwM-0007Es-V5; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 12:58:10 -0400 From: "Donde esta " To: "b o 0" ,lowkey@acidgrave.com,ne-raves@hyperreal.org X-Mailer: NeoMail 1.25 X-IPAddress: 127.0.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 12:58:10 -0400 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - commerce.planet2net.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32004 32004] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - commerce.planet2net.net X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Outlaw Experiences > oh good, i wont live in NYC then. Ever been to an outlaw in NH or maine? No. And I'm not passing judgment on whatever might be there either. > since when is throwing a party part of any community? If you haven't experienced this, why are you commenting on it? That is more ignorant than telling people to leave. Go to SF and attend one of the many outlaws. I will bet you that the crew throwing it is composed of probably at least 10 other people who are not at the party all sharing a warehouse. The community is what creates the opportunity to pull outlaws off, among other things. > If throwing a party > should mimic any form of government, it should mimic a monarchy, not > communism. If you're looking to turn a buck and be Queen of the Scene, sure. But, if you're about freedom, expression, and new music, there is no point as such setups keep people out. Thus, you limit yourself. > Unless of course you've found people that like to use E. Actually, the monarchy setup works better for this as well since it's usually one dealer either conected to the people, or the actual entity, throwing the party. Keep falling back on the silly E excuses. They don't apply to what either myself or Jasper are discussing. > if it mimics a monarchy then one person gets to decide how everything goes, > and there is much less confusion. There doesn't have to be confusion simply because one person isn't running the show. Look, just go experience it and you'll be proven wrong and be happy about it. > Or perhaps it should be a small collective of people who decide what to do > as a small group. Either way, it shouldn't involve the party goers > themselves. Now you're on a very starnge tangent. Regardless, if the party is for everyone, and it's free, party-goers are part f the community. They are an integral part of the equation for success. If people attending a party for free are unwilling to help out, they don't belong there. In SF, it appears that some crews have done a fairly good job at keeping that element at bay. > i wasn't talking about using a club. I see what your saying about times and > not being able to get into a place before a certain time, etc etc. Yes, you > may have to rely on others... but not STRANGERS. Generaly you have a crew > helping you with a party right? Yes, you have a crew and you depend upon the "strangers" who somehow found out about your free party to help if things go sour. > i heard someone say, once, that "instead of fighting over what Rave ACTUALY > was, why not fight to make it something it NEVER was." And i guess that's a > good thing if you believe it CAN be that way, but i'm not sure it ever can. > It would def be pretty cool, but especialy the way kids (in general, not > only ravers) are today, i doubt it could ever happen. You're missing out. Things happen the way they were hyped. They just don't involve 1000+ people so much anymore. > i was using my football team as an example of a group of people who went to > parties to use drugs, and that's it. They don't go to parties anymore to use > drugs because they can find those drugs on the street now easier than at a > rave. Do you see what i'm trying to say? It's not that they're on the > football team that bothers me. No. Unless you've created a pecking order based on who does and doesn't use drugs being related to purity or good/bad. ----- Low-Key/Tocsin AIM: DeadSector "I think the American people?I hope the American?I don't think, let me?I hope the American people trust me." --George W. Bush From skinner@hyperreal.org Wed Jul 23 17:19:38 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27274 invoked by uid 1126); 23 Jul 2003 17:19:38 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 23 Jul 2003 17:19:38 -0000 Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 10:19:38 -0700 (PDT) From: skinner To: b o 0 cc: ne-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030723100538.X21118@taz3.hyperreal.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Outlaw Experiences On Wed, 23 Jul 2003, b o 0 wrote: ->since when is throwing a party part of any community? If throwing a ->party should mimic any form of government, it should mimic a ->monarchy, not communism. Unless of course you've found people that ->like to use E. For the 12 years I have been throwing parties, I have always run things as tight as I can. Organized, timed, plotted, arranged. I made sure that as many things had backups to the backups. In the end, yes I was the "one person" calling the shots. But it was community it was people helping out with rides, with helping us set up so we could get things done faster, it was people helping to work the door, or hand out flyers. Not to mutually benefit them i.e. free comp what ever, but to make sure the party went off and was fun. I had people working parties that paid to get in, because they say the admission fee as a donation to the communal greater whole of the thing, not as a service fee. One of my larger scale parties Black back in 97 at the Newburg skate park, a farken snow storm hit, but people still came out and I had people with SUV's and Trucks offering to help people with rides who wanted to go because it was hard to get there. So yes the major difference between a rave and a concert is the communal aspect. People not requested or expected to help, but offering help in anyway, offering the involvement in the event from just interacting with people, to hey see that guy carrying wires up a hill to help do the sound, maybe if I offer to carry a box, the party can go off faster, and hell maybe the guys throwing can have some extra time to actually enjoy what the even instead of working the whole time. Even with my record labels, one of which is one of the top Hardcore Techno labels around, a lot of it.s success has to do with community with in the gabber/hardcore scene. A global scene yes, but still a community thanks to the interweb and a very interactive group of producers and DJ.s. As much of a right winger I am, rave has always been community and might be my closet hippie side coming out, but what made rave good, what made it strong and what made it start to die was the interaction with people. You want to fry your brain or not, that has nothing to do with the fact of how you interact. To be honest, I so more excessive use and higher better quality drugs years ago, and people were still community active in the .scene. with interacting, helping etc. Kids who use to go to just get fucked up, even with that intention could of helped, but the were not there for the community and a lot of people are not in it for a non personal gain issue. The rave scene is funny in that it.s one of the few scenes where a kid can get a voice mail and be a promoter and socially climb over night, where he can get some of mommies and daddies money get turntables be a DJ and social climb over night. The thing here is fine if you do these things to add to the community, ad to the art, but when it becomes selfish acts of social climbing, or just pure hedonistic abuse of a .scene. you no longer can call the it rave or scene, because it.s lost one of it.s more fundamental aspects. Now I am no plurmonger I have always been one of the more vocal people on how I think people go around shooting the term and are just hypocrites, but essentially unity and respect are the 2 factors that make a community a non personal gain. One of the reasons have always been a big loud mouth and asshole was because I never cared about social status as much as giving back to a community and over the eyars with the 100+ parties I have done, with the 300+ I have played world wide, with 20+ records releases, with the thousands of $ I have lost on parties and records releases it all boils down to one thing.. Community and Love for the music that it is build around. The hardcore techno scene is one of the few that still holds onto the original ideals. Granted the hard music has always been my favorite, but I think it.s elevated even more because of the community that exists around it and one that I have help build over the years. -- Skinner http://zendiagrams.com http://blackmonolith.com http://industrialstrengthrecords.com From drew_xxx_84@hotmail.com Wed Jul 23 17:31:47 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 32256 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2003 17:31:47 -0000 Received: from law10-f3.law10.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (64.4.15.3) by taz3.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Jul 2003 17:31:47 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 10:31:45 -0700 Received: from 24.62.240.175 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 17:31:44 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.62.240.175] X-Originating-Email: [drew_xxx_84@hotmail.com] From: "b o 0" To: lowkey@acidgrave.com, ne-raves@hyperreal.org Bcc: Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 13:31:44 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jul 2003 17:31:45.0351 (UTC) FILETIME=[49BEE570:01C35140] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Outlaw Experiences > No. And I'm not passing judgment on whatever might be there either. They're pretty chill, we have so much woods out here that you can throw a party a few hundred feet from the highway and no one will even know your there. > If you haven't experienced this, why are you commenting on it? That >is more ignorant than telling people to leave. Go to SF and attend one >of the many outlaws. I will bet you that the crew throwing it is >composed of probably at least 10 other people who are not at the party >all sharing a warehouse. The community is what creates the opportunity >to pull outlaws off, among other things. i'm begining to think the way they come accross finding venue may be different than it is out here. Go through the process and tell me how they go about finding a warehouse to use, getting it ready, pulling off the party, and then the clean-up. Perhaps it will shed some light on this. All i've heard so far is that they live in communes and throw parties together. >Looking to turn a buck or be Queen of the Scene not really. i've never made any money what so ever off of an outlaw. Most of the time, people who go (unless it's private) don't even know who i am. But appearantly i do parties differently. > Actually, the monarchy setup works better for this as well since >it's usually one dealer either conected to the people, or the actual >entity, throwing the party. Keep falling back on the silly E excuses. >They don't apply to what either myself or Jasper are discussing. agreed. but they aren't excuses. even if you two didnt use E, everyone else did. which certainly explains the unity. > There doesn't have to be confusion simply because one person isn't >running the show. Look, just go experience it and you'll be proven >wrong and be happy about it. if i had money to go to SF, i would. I'd go to a party in every state of the US. > Yes, you have a crew and you depend upon the "strangers" who somehow >found out about your free party to help if things go sour. that's what i see the members of this "10 person crew" being for. That's an awful lot of sour if all of 10 people cant fix it > You're missing out. Things happen the way they were hyped. They >just don't involve 1000+ people so much anymore. ok... am i missing out because i don't believe people can create a transcendental society? > No. Unless you've created a pecking order based on who does and >doesn't use drugs being related to purity or good/bad. ::sigh:: when did i ever say that drugs are a BAD thing? What i was referring to was the fact that they would go to these parties, use the drugs, complain about the music, start fights, and all around be ass holes. Now that they can get the drugs on the street easier, they don't go to raves. Yay. -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- -Bo0 aim:lilraver1984 chemicalkid8 -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- >From: "Donde esta " >To: "b o 0" >,lowkey@acidgrave.com,ne-raves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Outlaw Experiences >Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 12:58:10 -0400 > > > > oh good, i wont live in NYC then. Ever been to an outlaw in NH or >maine? > > > > since when is throwing a party part of any community? > > > > If throwing a party > > should mimic any form of government, it should mimic a monarchy, not > > communism. > > > > Unless of course you've found people that like to use E. > > > > if it mimics a monarchy then one person gets to decide how everything >goes, > > and there is much less confusion. > > > > Or perhaps it should be a small collective of people who decide what >to do > > as a small group. Either way, it shouldn't involve the party goers > > themselves. > > > > i wasn't talking about using a club. I see what your saying about >times and > > not being able to get into a place before a certain time, etc etc. >Yes, you > > may have to rely on others... but not STRANGERS. Generaly you have a >crew > > helping you with a party right? > > > > i heard someone say, once, that "instead of fighting over what Rave >ACTUALY > > was, why not fight to make it something it NEVER was." And i guess >that's a > > good thing if you believe it CAN be that way, but i'm not sure it ever >can. > > It would def be pretty cool, but especialy the way kids (in general, >not > > only ravers) are today, i doubt it could ever happen. > > > > i was using my football team as an example of a group of people who >went to > > parties to use drugs, and that's it. They don't go to parties anymore >to use > > drugs because they can find those drugs on the street now easier than >at a > > rave. Do you see what i'm trying to say? It's not that they're on the > > football team that bothers me. > > >----- >Low-Key/Tocsin >AIM: DeadSector > >"I think the American people?I hope the American?I don't think, let me?I >hope the American people trust me." > --George W. Bush > _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From skinner@hyperreal.org Wed Jul 23 17:42:46 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 37174 invoked by uid 1126); 23 Jul 2003 17:42:46 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 23 Jul 2003 17:42:46 -0000 Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 10:42:46 -0700 (PDT) From: skinner To: b o 0 cc: lowkey@acidgrave.com, ne-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030723103759.N34232@taz3.hyperreal.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Outlaw Experiences On Wed, 23 Jul 2003, b o 0 wrote: ->that's what i see the members of this "10 person crew" being for. ->That's an awful lot of sour if all of 10 people cant fix it I dislike .rave crews. in most cases. The reason is, most of the time it.s just so they can .identify. with some group and seem more important the they are, Social Climbing. I love seeing DJ.s with 234234324 crew names after there listing on flyers. I don.t mind seeing legitimate things like record labels if they are producers too, but half the .rave. crews change regularly on there names because it.s who they re friends with this week or what name they think makes them sound better. Then you have kids who are part of or .down. with a crew because of the fact that they just want to seem more .important. or want to .belong.. But most of the time they do jack shit for the fundamental functions of a crew/party etc. Tribal Identity in a way. This is where many collectives do have an advantage. It.s made of up a bunch of smaller .crews. with one common goal, be it that party, or helping that scene. Each brings there own bit of offering from art, to resources. Sometimes this can work out great if you have equally responsible people on all sides, and a democratic type voting on what the .Group. goals and choices. -- Skinner http://zendiagrams.com http://blackmonolith.com http://industrialstrengthrecords.com From acidgrav@commerce.planet2net.net Wed Jul 23 18:05:57 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 47218 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2003 18:05:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO commerce.planet2net.net) (205.214.82.96) by taz3.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Jul 2003 18:05:57 -0000 Received: from acidgrav by commerce.planet2net.net with local (Exim 4.20) id 19fNzr-00007G-7P; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 14:05:51 -0400 From: "Donde esta " To: "b o 0" , ne-raves@hyperreal.org X-Mailer: NeoMail 1.25 X-IPAddress: 127.0.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 14:05:51 -0400 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - commerce.planet2net.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32004 32004] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - commerce.planet2net.net X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Outlaw Experiences > i'm begining to think the way they come accross finding venue may be > different than it is out here. Go through the process and tell me how they > go about finding a warehouse to use, getting it ready, pulling off the > party, and then the clean-up. Perhaps it will shed some light on this. All > i've heard so far is that they live in communes and throw parties together. Most outlaws are outdoors. Warehouses are the homebases for the collectives. They live in them and pay next to nothing in order to do so. It's resulted in a situation where a group of people have more time to pursue artistic ventures and organize events for others to enjoy. > agreed. but they aren't excuses. even if you two didnt use E, everyone else > did. which certainly explains the unity. This is just wrong. You're free to believe this stereotype. But, it doesn't explain the unity. Drugs result in more anti-social behavior than anything else and not unity. > if i had money to go to SF, i would. I'd go to a party in every state of the > US. Well, then to go full circle, don't tell Jasper what he's going to experience or see in SF if you haven't experienced it yourself. > that's what i see the members of this "10 person crew" being for. That's an > awful lot of sour if all of 10 people cant fix it It happens. Outlaws have less predictable variables that can screw them up. If only the crew throwing the thing is to take responsibility for a smooth party, the party-goers get what they deserve if they don't help. Another reason why you see less of such parties happening in NYC. > ok... am i missing out because i don't believe people can create a > transcendental society? Yes. Because, in regards to the music/art associated with rave, people have. You're free to pursue something else. But don't tell other people something doesn't exist when, in fact, it does. Also, don't say it's only experienced by people whio take E because that is not true either. > ::sigh:: when did i ever say that drugs are a BAD thing? You earlier stated that you saw less football players at raves which means something must be going right. You clarified that comment by saying it meant, since the same drugs are available on the streets, you see less people going to raves to find the same thing. So, if you aren't making a judgment call about drugs, then, no, I do not see your point. > What i was referring to was the fact that they would go to these parties, > use the drugs, complain about the music, start fights, and all around be ass > holes. Now that they can get the drugs on the street easier, they don't go > to raves. Yay. That's a pretty vague "they." I haven't seen that change at all though. There is still plenty of negative in the pay scene and the outlaw scene in NYC. Hence, Jasper and myself saying that SF is better. Name me one healthy techno related TAZ in NYC. ----- Low-Key/Tocsin AIM: DeadSector "I think the American people?I hope the American?I don't think, let me?I hope the American people trust me." --George W. 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Not one line anymore ;) Is that rule still in effect? k. --- b o 0 wrote: > > No. And I'm not passing judgment on whatever > might be there either. > > They're pretty chill, we have so much woods out here > that you can throw a > party a few hundred feet from the highway and no one > will even know your > there. > > > If you haven't experienced this, why are you > commenting on it? That > >is more ignorant than telling people to leave. Go > to SF and attend one > >of the many outlaws. I will bet you that the crew > throwing it is > >composed of probably at least 10 other people who > are not at the party > >all sharing a warehouse. The community is what > creates the opportunity > >to pull outlaws off, among other things. > > i'm begining to think the way they come accross > finding venue may be > different than it is out here. Go through the > process and tell me how they > go about finding a warehouse to use, getting it > ready, pulling off the > party, and then the clean-up. Perhaps it will shed > some light on this. All > i've heard so far is that they live in communes and > throw parties together. > > >Looking to turn a buck or be Queen of the Scene > > not really. i've never made any money what so ever > off of an outlaw. Most of > the time, people who go (unless it's private) don't > even know who i am. But > appearantly i do parties differently. > > > Actually, the monarchy setup works better for > this as well since > >it's usually one dealer either conected to the > people, or the actual > >entity, throwing the party. Keep falling back on > the silly E excuses. > >They don't apply to what either myself or Jasper > are discussing. > > agreed. but they aren't excuses. even if you two > didnt use E, everyone else > did. which certainly explains the unity. > > > There doesn't have to be confusion simply > because one person isn't > >running the show. Look, just go experience it and > you'll be proven > >wrong and be happy about it. > > if i had money to go to SF, i would. I'd go to a > party in every state of the > US. > > > Yes, you have a crew and you depend upon the > "strangers" who somehow > >found out about your free party to help if things > go sour. > > that's what i see the members of this "10 person > crew" being for. That's an > awful lot of sour if all of 10 people cant fix it > > > You're missing out. Things happen the way > they were hyped. They > >just don't involve 1000+ people so much anymore. > > ok... am i missing out because i don't believe > people can create a > transcendental society? > > > No. Unless you've created a pecking order > based on who does and > >doesn't use drugs being related to purity or > good/bad. > > ::sigh:: when did i ever say that drugs are a BAD > thing? > > What i was referring to was the fact that they would > go to these parties, > use the drugs, complain about the music, start > fights, and all around be ass > holes. Now that they can get the drugs on the street > easier, they don't go > to raves. Yay. > > -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- > > -Bo0 > aim:lilraver1984 > chemicalkid8 > -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- > > > > > > > >From: "Donde esta " > >To: "b o 0" > >,lowkey@acidgrave.com,ne-raves@hyperreal.org > >Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Outlaw Experiences > >Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 12:58:10 -0400 > > > > > > > oh good, i wont live in NYC then. Ever been to > an outlaw in NH or > >maine? > > > > > > > > since when is throwing a party part of any > community? > > > > > > > > If throwing a party > > > should mimic any form of government, it should > mimic a monarchy, not > > > communism. > > > > > > > > Unless of course you've found people that like > to use E. > > > > > > > > if it mimics a monarchy then one person gets to > decide how everything > >goes, > > > and there is much less confusion. > > > > > > > > Or perhaps it should be a small collective of > people who decide what > >to do > > > as a small group. Either way, it shouldn't > involve the party goers > > > themselves. > > > > > > > > i wasn't talking about using a club. I see what > your saying about > >times and > > > not being able to get into a place before a > certain time, etc etc. > >Yes, you > > > may have to rely on others... but not STRANGERS. > Generaly you have a > >crew > > > helping you with a party right? > > > > > > > > i heard someone say, once, that "instead of > fighting over what Rave > >ACTUALY > > > was, why not fight to make it something it NEVER > was." And i guess > >that's a > > > good thing if you believe it CAN be that way, > but i'm not sure it ever > >can. > > > It would def be pretty cool, but especialy the > way kids (in general, > >not > > > only ravers) are today, i doubt it could ever > happen. > > > > > > > > i was using my football team as an example of a > group of people who > >went to > > > parties to use drugs, and that's it. They don't > go to parties anymore > >to use > > > drugs because they can find those drugs on the > street now easier than > >at a > > > rave. Do you see what i'm trying to say? It's > not that they're on the > > > football team that bothers me. > > > > > > >----- > >Low-Key/Tocsin > === message truncated === __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From skinner@hyperreal.org Fri Jul 25 20:56:13 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 47595 invoked by uid 1126); 25 Jul 2003 20:56:13 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Jul 2003 20:56:13 -0000 Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 13:56:13 -0700 (PDT) From: skinner To: ne-raves@hyperreal.org Message-ID: <20030725135530.Y46902@taz3.hyperreal.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Blazin this Sat 26th Here are the details on BLAZIN' JULY 26th 2003 Summer is here once again... with the Blazin' dayz and CRAZY nights in full effect... and of course some of the sickest shit hittin' the east coast constantly COK style! We know sometimes the summer months can truly drag on... heatwaves... you couldn't catch that ice cream truck cuz you stayed on the computer too long...you are trying to make yourself look better for a world who doesn't care what you think while you look good on the beach.... we know, trust! The cookout however is NOT on the barbeque this summer, its on the dancefloor! We embrace this time of outdoor adventures and warm days of friendship whole-heartedly and we want to see every single one of you gettin' with it on July 26th... BLAZIN! Embrace yourself in one of the most fun packed nights you are gonna experience this summer!! Shit is gonna be so pimp you won't believe your ears! Whether it's "America's Best Loved DJ" tearing you a new cortex, or the hc/dnb makin' shit sizzle, its gonna be a mind-blower of an evening. I personally guarantee that there won't be a single soul left untouched by the positive power of this scene on this night because we're working hard as hell to keep the kind of quality you deserve coming atcha again and again... attention to detail, local culture involvement, improving your underground community... we be Blazin' the path few can follow or achieve.... this know 'dis and that's why this summer will be Blazin', cuz it doesn't get a whole lot more fun than this! Get ready... nah! you can't even get ready this time! BLAZIN' JULY 26th 2003. We'll see you there, ya know we will! Peace and one love, Columns of Knowledge Prod/Recordings... here for all us, under one sun! late, Chris Knowledge BURNIN' DOWN THE HOUSE: DJ DAN (Kinetic Records, San Fran, CA) 1st time ever @ Asylum! 1st southern NE appearance in YEARS! DON'T MISS THIS! DJ DAN is one of America's most highly sought after DJ/producers who continually breaks new musical ground. Beginning as Los Angeles' top techno DJ in the early 90's, he went on to inspire the breakbeat trend a few short years later with the classic anthem "Loose Caboose." Later DJ DAN reinvented the sound with "Needle Damage"--a fusion of all that is hard and funky. He has toured the world over, releasing numerous highly celebrated singles and popular CD's. The sounds of high energy samples, funky guitars, heavy bass lines and filtered rhythms come through loud and clear on IN STEREO, his release for Kinetic. A native of Olympia, WA, DJ DAN first experienced music as a welcome escape, surrounded as he was by nine brothers and sisters. By age 14, he'd figured out how to rig his tape deck to the turntable to record to tape. His involvement with the Bay Area DJ collective Funky Tekno Tribe was a significant milestone on the establishment of what is known today as the signature West Coast house sound. The sounds of the DJ's--which included fusing funk and hip-hop with breaks and melodies--were a great influence on DAN, and caused him to revisit those sounds he loved so much in his youth, thus morphing into his own personalized sound. DJ DAN's international profile expanded exponentially with the release of the groundbreaking "Loose Caboose" by the Electroliners, a classic track he co-wrote and co-produced with Jim Hopkins. It was soon picked up by XL Records in the U.K., which led to a fruitful partnership between DAN and famed DJ Carl Cox. He's remixed projects for Keoki, Groove Armada, Filter, A Tribe Called Quest, Olive and Orgy, the latter of which obtained platinum status with "Blue Monday." When asked about the direction of music today, DAN says, "Music is hard to categorize now than it's ever been. Techno guys playing tracks slowed down could be house...speeded up could be techno. I don't think it should be classified. It should be based on if it's good or not. A good record is a good record." As for his own persona, DJ DAN defies the conventional wisdom that the DJ has to retain a kind of standoffish mystique. "I got into this," says DAN, "because I love how people unite on the dance floor, bringing in their own energy and excitement. So, I never turn my back on the crowd." And they've never turned their backs on him. DJ DAN remains a towering figure in the world of dance music, always a step ahead in bringing new musical styles to his fans. He is a DJ for the people burning up dance floors around world. Come realize a COK's dream come true with DJ DAN @ Blazin'1:00-2:45AM KEVIN SAUNDERSON (www.worldofdeep.com, www.movementfestival.com , KMS, MI) ONE OF OF OUR GENRE'S PIONEERS-DO NOT MISS THIS! Recently features with his legendary partners in pathmaking, Derrick May, and Juan Atkins on the cover of URB, Kevin has been a pivotal player in electronic dance music since day one. From his youngest days of helping lay the groundwork in the US as well as in Europe, he has toured every single country imaginable with most recently having visited Poland and Naples. His label continues to push positive sounds of house and techno with a large platform of experienced reputable producers with sizable discographies. As if a djing career that has spanned the globe and a production history the size of webster's dictionary wasn't enough, Kevin and Carl Craig have taken over what was known as the DEMF (Detroit Electronica Music Festival)... this year by turning it into the Movement Festival. How he found time to come play for us I don't know, but we are humbled and stoked beyond recognition to give you, the people, a true legend of the industry. 2:45-4:15AM BAM BAM [Jackstar, _FadedMuzik, Topaz, DJAX, CNTMN8D, Columns of Knowledge, 2AM, Chicago, www.djbambam.com ] Known for his mixing and scratching debonair dexterity, Chicago's playboy of hard jackin' beats has been ravaging and rotating records to multiple masses across the globe for 9 years strong. With numerous legal mix compilations and music production on over 30 vinyl releases under his belt, he has accomplished a combined total of over 100,000 sales worldwide and is increasing by the minute. Be sure not to miss this master of mayhem as he performs a Chicago style blend of sick ass beats and exceptional DJ skills. 12:00-1:00AM X-DREAM (Topaz, Caffeine, Amped Entertainment, Damn! www.djxdream.com) Release party for "Trance Theory 3" on Topaz Records! X-Dream has carved a niche for himself as a DJ and producer within the global dance community. A DJ who prides himself on perfection, DJ X-Dream is recognized across the United States for his impeccable progressive trance mixes and intuitive gift for rocking the dance floor. 11:00-12:00AM KNOWLEDGE (www.columnsofknowledge.com, Columns of Knowledge Recordings, CT) Release party for COK003 Knowledge/Ezrah "Blueprint Training" A new record, a full schedule, and a sound encompassing so much within the genre... just a few traits NE's longest production company and promoter is known for. As one of the driving forces of the community, and a passion for music that is endless, Knowledge continues to achieve excellence through his hard work and dedication to the masses. Always a mentally stimulating choice behind the decks, he will be sure to lay it down once again. 4:15-5:00AM MADAME BUDDAFLY (www.columnsofknowledge.com, Swarm Records, www.madamebuddafly.com, CT) With her signature blend of dirty techno, electro, and house the Madame returns to take main stage for another COK event. She can be found rockin' crowds at her new Sunday Night Wax residency as well as her new internet broadcast every Friday night on Club246.com from 6-8PM. Recent stops include Mexico, Germany, and Canada... Look for her 3rd vinyl release later this year as well as she continues to push the limits. 10:00-11:00PM MELEE (Redbull/www.ShadowsOfSociety.com/Nexus Artist Management, NH) Ladies and Gentlemen, Boys and Girls, Cross-eyed Monkey's, and Bow-legged squirrels. SOS Bros & Basslines with Bailey's on the rocks Present: "The under weight champion of New England, the man, the myth, the legend!!!".....*cough cough cough* blah blah blah. Give up a hand for the ice cream man!!! Breaks and Beats at their finest, supplied by NuEngland's Break Selector! 5:00-6:00AM JAY ALLEGRO aka WEEZ (True, Mother Tongue, MA) Known to the Asylum as Weez, this will be Jay's 30th event here since joining True in 1999. He's come a long way in that time- from opening for the legendary Orbital to his accomplishments as a producer over the last year - His entry with Mike Kiraly in the Sasha remix contest for Kinetic Records placed in the top ten out of over 700 national entries - He was recently signed to Mother Tongue records and has 2 original EP's coming out in the fall as well as doing a remix for Tommy Boy Records. You can pick up his two white labels in stores now - "Oh Yeah 2003" and "From Bangkok to Chicago". An awesome opening to this summer blowout event! 9:00-10:00PM FLAMIN' SKULLS: FREAKY FLOW & MC FLIPSIDE (Moonshine, djfreakflow.com, mcflipside.com, Toronto, Canada) Freaky Flow first took a serious interest in music at the age of eleven, mesmerized by soul jazz, garage house, and hiphop. Four years later, he purchased his first set of turntables and started spinning hiphop with his skilled partner, D-Wreck. Through this genre, Freaky learned the basics . scratching, cutting, and mixing . in just that prioritized order. Jungle, drumandbass, and the underground music culture soon captured his attention; Flow, in turn, transferred his knowledge of hiphop into this new, captivating music. Consequently, Freaky Flow (always with MC Flipside on the microphone) plays on a regular basis at major events throughout Canada, the US, Mexico, Puerto Rico, Japan, Hong Kong, Germany, and most recently England. With his partner in crime, MC Flipside, Freaky Flow oversaw the operation of Placebo Recordings. His third CD . the first ever live CD that Flow has recorded . entitled .Keep It Live. (released 2002), features MC Flipside on the microphone. Watch for future mix CD.s to be released soon on Topaz Records, New York. MC Flipside has torn the house down on the mic as well at such legendary COK shows: Fresh Start 2000, and last years massive So Fresh & So Clean. It's no surprise as his infamous broadcast show "Trippin" in Toronto was host to over 600000 weekly listeners. These two together... the room's about to go BOOM! 2:30-4:00AM LENNY DEE (www.industrialstrengthrecords.com, NY) Lenny Dee is recognized as one of New York's earliest Techno pioneers. His earlier music consisted of Disco, Electro-Body, High Energy and early House. Lenny furthered his career by collaborating with Techno legend Frankie Bones and the DJ / Producer/dj team was born. Their music catapulted on the British charts, with the XL-Recordings release Looney Tunes in 1989. The two Brooklyn born natives stormed through the UK'S dance scene with a style of breaks and pounding grooves that still influences Techno music today. In the 90's Lenny Dee was twice awarded the accolade of 'Best Worldwide Techno DJ' by the Scottish Dance Music Awards. Frontpage Magazine heralded him as 'International DJ of the Year' and he has received wide spread coverage in other dance music publications like DJ Times, MixMag, Musik and Mixer Magazine. Lenny Dee continues to DJ all around the world, having played in over 20 different countries and all across the USA from Australia through Western & Eastern Europe and as far as Russia and Japan. He has performed at most big events including to over million people at the Love Parade in Berlin, Techno Street Parades in Paris, Switzerland and Hamburg, Mayday in Germany, Tribal Gathering UK, Woodstock 2000 NYC, and the Jane's Addiction Reunion Tour in NYC 1997 . Lenny launched Industrial Strength Records in the U.S.A. in 1991with PCP's 'Mescalinium United', becoming the first Hardcore Techno label in the world and one of the first Electronic Labels in the U.S.A. His label has featured artists such as Carl Cox, Richie Hawtin, Laurent Garnier, Daft Punk, The Mover, DJ Paul, Manu le Malin, Cirillo, Oliver Chesler and Nasenbluten among other ground breaking music that has pioneered the label through the decade. The catalog now boasts almost 750 titles. ISR's music has appeared on over 550 compilations worldwide with sales on over 3 million Cds. His latest cd "Chillin Is Killin" out now, featuring 2 very diverse but equally slamming disks - the first laced with ambient overtones and the second disk's powerful speedcore mixed with heavy metal mixes. Lenny Dee's recent Hardhouse 12 inch titled 'The Dude' with DJ Panic and The Beholder (DJ Neophyte) is out now on Seismic Records in Holland with an EP for X Traxx in the works. On the techno front, Lenny has completed a 12 inch with the infamous Chris Liberator and DarcMarc out now on the Liberator's Underground label 'Maximum / Minimum' . It is awesome to have Lenny back with us as he headlined some of the best events we've ever done: ALIVE, ALL OUT SUNSHINE, WINTER WONDERLAND... welcome back LENNY! 1:00-2:30AM THE DOWLZNICK (Grooveside, Circa footwear, 35th Ave Skateboards, seattle) By co-owning one of Seattles largest productioncompanies and blowing up clubs and raves all over North America, most would say The Dowlznick is definetly running things for the Northwest drum and bass community. You saw him rock the "Freshie" massive last February at the Asylum. Expect nothing less this time around. Major dubplate pressure, fast paced innovative mixing and properly executed reloads. 12:00-1:00AM TOCSIN *LIVE PA* Comprised of:(Dismal, Low-Key and T-Bone) established themselves in the underground with releases on Industrial Strength, Apocalypse and Black Monolith. With influences of metal, punk, industrial, hip-hop, and techno, Tocsin has created a unique sound that they can call their own. Combining disturbing visuals and aggressive danceable beats, Tocsin brings a live experience that will not be forgotten. Not your typical hardcore act by far these folks have been known to terrorize and turn heads inside out all across the country. It's a true hardcore session for the true headz tonight. Do not miss it! 11:00-12:00AM JOSH HOLIDAY (Local 13/DnBASF Records- Philly) Josh Holiday is back once again; if you saw his set @ "Happy Holidays 2 U" you know why not to miss it this time. Josh has been working hard in the office & Lab working on his lable DnBASF Records as head of A&R and a producer. Look out latter this year for the fisrt release, "The Art of War". 4:00-5:00AM WHITE RUSSIAN (www.djwhiterussian.com, www.ruffneckplayazcrew.com, MA) Trancecore galore by one of the beantown area's best kept secrets. Music for the headz and an inspiring way to close out the night on a hard note. PAULYSTEP (Volume Productions, www.volumeproductions.com, RI) This man continues to make a name for himself in NE by offering up funky head boppin Drum and bass, blending bangin jump up and hip step. You better get down and shake that ass...or get run over. 10:00PM-11:00PM PSYTECH (Darkstar Musik, MA) Coming to the asylum for the very first time, this man will be dropping nasty DnB and mashup Ragga jungle to kick the night off with a fast pace tornado of beats. Behind the scenes and a key player in the COK deco crew, this man's been paying in dues and now will get to rock the tunes for all of you! Blaze a trail... 9:00-10:00PM GRILLIN' N BASTIN': MARK BEE (Satellite Records,UDG NYC) VS PAT FONTES (Satellite Records, www.shadowsofsociety.com, Boston MA) SATELLITE BOSTON VS SATELLITE NYC! NO HOLDS BARRED! For those who don't know, Mark's contributions to the underground span a decade and his dedication to sound is beyond denial. Structure, his infamous clubnight under the NJ Underground brandname (which featured JahRed and Glenn Garcia as founding members) was a staple of its generation... a staple in the tradition of Buzz, Boom, Realizations, and Together. For NJ it set a standard for many yrs. Now hard at work in the Satellite NYC warehouse and has been djing all over the globe with his signature intelligent yet drivin techno/house sound. Pat Fontes... one of beantown's most beloved playas... mgr of Satellite Boston and head buyer there... 7 yrs behind the decks and a constant clubbing/underground schedule as well. Was this not forseen by the Gods? It's gonna go down! If you like it deep but hard, driving yet intelligent, progressive but funky it's gonna get absolutely insane for this 90 mins that will altar the course of your life forever! 2:00-3:30AM SAPPHIRE (Grooveside, Seattle, WA) Seattle's hottest mixtress always brings the phat bass and hot melodies. With her smooth mix of funky house, 2step and garage you cannot help but feel the groove. 1:00-2:00AM SHANEDADDY (www.drumnbreaks.com, NY) & SCOTTY MACK (Stuck On Earth, XLR8 Recordings, NJ) Funky as afterparty panties is how it's gonna be listening to these two NYC veterans rip it up! Get ready for a lethal combination of 2step, breaks, house and turntablism when these pimps hit the decks. 3:30-5:00AM SOMA (Audiophile, NY) VS NRGIZER (LightUP Productions, L.I., NY) Dj Soma's name has been well known all over the northeast for his Hard Trance/NRG sets. Tonight he is back at the Asylum tag teaming with DJ Nrgizer, LI's up and comer for their first tag team in New England. They represent the hard dance sound proper, and on this night, New England will hear and see what they have been missing. As a bonus Nrgizer's got his hot new cd release tonite, "Journey thru Trance". Get yourself a giveaway and go nuts! 10:00-11:00PM XONEL SMART (Hard to Swallow, Stuck on Earth, www.xonelsmart.com) Coming from Philly, playing at many of the east coast's larger events, appearing on upcoming Hard to Swallow 009 with Frankie Bones, Circuit Breaker and Hectic, and coming with the sound of breakbeat techno this quick rising star has been payin' his dues and playin' his blues, not he's gonna take you higher and farther. 12:00-1:00AM MIKE ILL (Trojanforce,NH) Djing since 93 mike has tenaciously been working to ensure well balanced sets for each and every gig he plays. Pushing for a more orginized techno community this is MIKE ILL 11:00-12:00AM SPLASH (Columns of Knowledge, www.turnagainheights.com, CT) VS DJ CHANCE(Parallax Soundz, fortheravers.com, djchance.net, MA) Since day 1 it's been sibling rivalry w/o being related... now it's gonna go down... get to Blazin b4 we open to rush in and get down as these 2 drops some of the illest hard acid trance and hard dance nrg. It's gonna get hot and nasty real quick. 9:00-10:00PM PRIME aka ritalin (bassconnection/illusion/gsp/raversonly.com) With a dominating old school mixture of hardcore, trance, and house, Prime is quickly climbing the ladder of success.PRIME's UK hardhouse sounds are being met with great review's to all that have witnessed his skill's on the turntable's. Definiately a DJ not to sleep on, his energetic flow leaves crowd's with fist's pumping and sweat dripping. A great way to end this morning proper. 5:00-6:00AM STEAMVENT: OSMOTIC (Twin, Innerchild - Pittsburgh, PA) Osmotic comes to us from the urban landscape of Pittsburgh, bringing with him his unique blend of house, energy, and funk. In addition to his coast to coast engagement ensemble, Osmotic is also a driving force within Pittsburgh's house community as a promoter of multiple club nights and one-off events. Prepare for a taste of Pittsburgh's finest. 1:00-3:00AM JUSTIN R.E.M.(Flex Productions, Nexus Artist Management, Sonicc AM, VT) Currently he is resident of "Revolver" @ 135-Pearl and .Sunday Night Mass. at Club Metronome; Vermont.s #1 weekly underground event. As if this wasn't enough add Nexus Artist Mgt to the mix, his own recently launched agency and you can see how his knowledge of the genre has made him a key figure in the VT community. 11:00-12:00AM THOMAS FOLTRON (VIPrecordsUSA.com, nj / SkylabNewYork.com, ny) Whether its his sponsorship through Skylab, his smooth blendings of progressive and funky intelligent trance perfect for the morning hrs, or his unending support of the underground through VIP Records, one of the top spots for dance music in NJ, Thomas always comes correct. He is also a member of Harken's record pool. We're very pleased to be brining' him back again since his last engagement with us @ Positive in 2001. 3:00-4:00AM DANNY CRUZ (IMAGINE! (CT) imaginect@yahoo.com) Tonight, Dan.s making a triumphant return afta a 1 yr hiatus (got married & had a gorgeous child.Congrats to Dan, Meghan, & Logan!) He'll be showcasing a full-on arsenal of scorching hot disko phunkers, that's so Blazin, it'll make the sun sweat - for those who want to leave this massive on the serious tip. 4:00-5:00AM Adam Strange (Turnagain Heights, Spiritual Emporium, CT) Adam has been making some noise in his home state as of late and is sure to make this a memorable evening with his signature style of nu-skool breaks. 10:00PM-11:00PM DJ Rocksteady (ctNRG.com, RGW, Ego Free Prod.) As the owner and operator of ctNRG.com, Rocksteady has no doubt shown his devotion to the local scene. Whether he's shooting photos, making videos, recording sets, you know you can find him out and about at any given party or club on the weekend. When he takes time from his busy schedule to actually play some records, he has never failed to get a crowd moving! Having played around CT and most recently at Club Exit in NYC, Rocksteady is primed for the big time. 9:00-10:00PM VENUE: ASYLUM 1592 MAIN ST SPRINGFIELD MA DIRECTIONS: randmcnally.com or call us or log on week of event INFOLINE: 203-287-8398 WEB: www.columnsofknowledge.com EMAIL: chrismcdo@aol.com Join the mailing list TICKETS: $26 in advance,$31 door OUTLETS: ID IS A MUST! PROMOTERS MUST CALL/EMAIL FOR COMPS BY 7/25/03 Online: www.spinfoil.com CT: Spiritual Emporium 860-524-9719 MA: Satellite 617-536-5482 Growroom 413-549-9296 4-Front 617-236-0335 RI: Luna Sea 401-272-5862 NY Satellite 212-995-1744 Altar 518-690-2816 VT: Joyryde 802-863-9166 www.joyrydestudios.com NH/ME: www.bullmoose.com log on to find a bullmoose near u! RELEASES from Columns of Knowledge Recordings: COK001 Todd Buckler "Pillowtalk/Cold" COK002 Bam Bam "Head Trauma" COK003 Knowledge/Ezrah "Blueprint Training" COK004 Venom "The Floorbanger" COK 005 cd Dj Knowledge "LIVE @ BOO 7" in stores NOW DIRECTIONS: from Vermont, upper western MA etc: Take 91 South to exit 7 (downtown). Go left off the ramp. Make a left at the 3rd light onto Main St. Go 3 blocks at the Asylum will be on your left side at the corner of Main/Worthington. from RI: take RT 146 North to 90 West. Take 90W to exit 6 for 291W. Take 291W until it merges with 91S. Take 91S to exit 7. Go left off the ramp. Make a left on Main St. Go 3 blocks and the club is on your left. from Boston, Worcester MA points: take 90W to exit 6 for 291W. Take 291W to 91S. Take 91S to exit 7. Go left off the ramp. Go left on Main St. Club will be on your left after 3 blocks. from Maine and New Hampshire pts: take 95S to 495S to 290 W to 90W. Take 90W to 291W to 91S. Take 91S to exit 7. Make a left off the ramp. Make a left on Main St. Go 3 blocks. Club is on the left. from Upstate NY: Take 87N or 87S to 90E. Take 90E in Massachusetts. Get off exit 4 which is RT5 South. Take that for 5 miles until you get to the 147W exit. Sign will say West Springfield.Agawam. Go around the rotary and over the bridge into Springfield. Go left on Main St. Go 3 blocks and the club will be on your left. Thanks from CT, NYC, PA, NJ etc: take 95N to 91N. 91N into MA and take exit 4. Go through 5 lights and make a right on Worthington St. Club is 1/2 block down on left. -- Skinner http://zendiagrams.com http://blackmonolith.com http://industrialstrengthrecords.com From skinner@hyperreal.org Fri Jul 25 20:58:25 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 48489 invoked by uid 1126); 25 Jul 2003 20:58:25 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Jul 2003 20:58:25 -0000 Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 13:58:25 -0700 (PDT) From: skinner To: ne-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <20030725135530.Y46902@taz3.hyperreal.org> Message-ID: <20030725135617.L47739@taz3.hyperreal.org> References: <20030725135530.Y46902@taz3.hyperreal.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Blazin this Sat 26th On Fri, 25 Jul 2003, skinner wrote: ->Here are the details on BLAZIN' JULY 26th 2003 ->LENNY DEE (www.industrialstrengthrecords.com, NY) ->TOCSIN *LIVE PA* Comprised of:(Dismal, Low-Key and T-Bone) ->established themselves in the underground with releases on ->Industrial Strength, Apocalypse and Black Monolith. I will be at this party tommrow to represent both Industrial Strength and my Label Black Monolith. I don't care about the rest of the lineup. But for the people on this list who do Like Hardcore Techno I highley suggest you get out to see Tocsin. This group has amazing talenet that they combine with a visual show. Plus LenDawg is going to play. -- Skinner http://zendiagrams.com http://blackmonolith.com http://industrialstrengthrecords.com From skinner@hyperreal.org Fri Jul 25 21:00:37 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 50371 invoked by uid 1126); 25 Jul 2003 21:00:37 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Jul 2003 21:00:37 -0000 Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 14:00:37 -0700 (PDT) From: skinner To: ne-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <20030725135617.L47739@taz3.hyperreal.org> Message-ID: <20030725140008.O49604@taz3.hyperreal.org> References: <20030725135530.Y46902@taz3.hyperreal.org> <20030725135617.L47739@taz3.hyperreal.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Blazin this Sat 26th On Fri, 25 Jul 2003, skinner wrote: ->I will be at this party tommrow to represent both Industrial ->Strength and my Label Black Monolith. I don't care about the rest of ->the lineup. But for the people on this list who do Like Hardcore ->Techno I highley suggest you get out to see Tocsin. This group has ->amazing talenet that they combine with a visual show. Plus LenDawg ->is going to play. Not to mention all 3 of them are on ne-raves =p -- Skinner http://zendiagrams.com http://blackmonolith.com http://industrialstrengthrecords.com From drew_xxx_84@hotmail.com Fri Jul 25 21:01:49 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 50637 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2003 21:01:49 -0000 Received: from law10-f101.law10.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (64.4.15.101) by taz3.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 Jul 2003 21:01:49 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 14:01:46 -0700 Received: from 24.62.240.175 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 21:01:46 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.62.240.175] X-Originating-Email: [drew_xxx_84@hotmail.com] From: "b o 0" To: skinner@hyperreal.org, ne-raves@hyperreal.org Bcc: Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 17:01:46 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Jul 2003 21:01:46.0936 (UTC) FILETIME=[F5B3AB80:01C352EF] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Blazin this Sat 26th I also suggest that everyone go to this, it will be the party of the summer! -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- -Bo0 aim:lilraver1984 chemicalkid8 -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- >From: skinner >To: ne-raves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Blazin this Sat 26th >Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 14:00:37 -0700 (PDT) > >On Fri, 25 Jul 2003, skinner wrote: > >->I will be at this party tommrow to represent both Industrial >->Strength and my Label Black Monolith. I don't care about the rest of >->the lineup. But for the people on this list who do Like Hardcore >->Techno I highley suggest you get out to see Tocsin. This group has >->amazing talenet that they combine with a visual show. Plus LenDawg >->is going to play. > >Not to mention all 3 of them are on ne-raves =p > > >-- >Skinner >http://zendiagrams.com >http://blackmonolith.com >http://industrialstrengthrecords.com > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org > _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From acidgrav@commerce.planet2net.net Fri Jul 25 21:24:11 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 62104 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2003 21:24:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO commerce.planet2net.net) (205.214.82.96) by taz3.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 Jul 2003 21:24:11 -0000 Received: from acidgrav by commerce.planet2net.net with local (Exim 4.20) id 19gA2j-0006Ch-0z for ne-raves@hyperreal.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 17:24:01 -0400 From: "t-bone" To: ne-raves@hyperreal.org Reply-To: t-bone@acidgrave.com X-Mailer: NeoMail 1.25 X-IPAddress: 127.0.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 17:24:01 -0400 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - commerce.planet2net.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32004 32004] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - commerce.planet2net.net X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] Blazin this Sat 26th i can't wait to see DJ Dan from San Fran! This is truely gonna be a kickass party- diverse lineup, lots of different styles and fuckinng decent acts. w00t! It's one of the few parties I've seen in a while where there is something for everyone, plus ppl will get exposed to sounds they don't normally hear- which IMHO is one of the few kewl things aobut a big party. t-bone -------------- I'd rather stay a child and keep my self respect If being an adult means being like you! -dead kennedys From columns@host4.name-serve.net Fri Jul 25 22:57:32 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Delivered-To: moderator for ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7729 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2003 22:57:32 -0000 Received: from host4.name-serve.net (209.239.36.244) by taz3.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 Jul 2003 22:57:32 -0000 Received: (from columns@localhost) by host4.name-serve.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) id h6PMvSSl029032; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 18:57:28 -0400 Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 18:57:28 -0400 Message-Id: <200307252257.h6PMvSSl029032@host4.name-serve.net> From: "Columns of Knowledge" To: ne-raves@hyperreal.org Reply-To: "Columns of Knowledge" Errors-To: "Columns of Knowledge Administrator" Organization: Columns of Knowledge MIME-Version: 1.0 List: Columns_of_Knowledge List-Archive: http://list.columnsofknowledge.com/cgi-bin/mojo/mojo.cgi?flavor=archive&list=Columns_of_Knowledge List-ID: 20030725170116 List-Owner: List-URL: http://list.columnsofknowledge.com/cgi-bin/mojo/mojo.cgi?list=Columns_of_Knowledge List-Software: Mojo Mail 2.5.1 http://mojo.skazat.com X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: BLAZIN is tomorrow JULY 26th 2003 Here are the details on BLAZIN' JULY 26th 2003 Summer is here once again... with the Blazin' dayz and CRAZY nights in fulleffect... and of course some of the sickest shit hittin' the east coast constantlyCOK style! We know sometimes the summer months can truly drag on... heatwaves...you couldn't catch that ice cream truck cuz you stayed on the computer toolong...you are trying to make yourself look better for a world who doesn'tcare what you think while you look good on the beach.... we know, trust!The cookout however is NOT on the barbeque this summer, its on the dancefloor!We embrace this time of outdoor adventures and warm days of friendship whole-heartedlyand we want to see every single one of you gettin' with it on July 26th...BLAZIN! Embrace yourself in one of the most fun packed nights you are gonnaexperience this summer!! Shit is gonna be so pimp you won't believe yourears! Whether it's "America's Best Loved DJ" tearing you a new cortex, orthe hc/dnb makin' shit sizzle, its gonna be a mind-blower of an evening.I personally guarantee that there won't be a single soul left untouched bythe positive power of this scene on this night because we're working hardas hell to keep the kind of quality you deserve coming atcha again and again...attention to detail, local culture involvement, improving your undergroundcommunity... we be Blazin' the path few can follow or achieve.... this know'dis and that's why this summer will be Blazin', cuz it doesn't get a wholelot more fun than this! Get ready... nah! you can't even get ready this time!BLAZIN' JULY 26th 2003. We'll see you there, ya know we will! Peace and onelove, Columns of Knowledge Prod/Recordings... here for all us, under onesun! late, Chris Knowledge BURNIN' DOWN THE HOUSE: DJ DAN (Kinetic Records, San Fran, CA) 1st time ever @ Asylum! 1st southern NE appearance in YEARS! DON'T MISS THIS! DJ DAN is one of America's most highly sought after DJ/producers who continuallybreaks new musical ground. Beginning as Los Angeles' top techno DJ in theearly 90's, he went on to inspire the breakbeat trend a few short years laterwith the classic anthem "Loose Caboose." Later DJ DAN reinvented the soundwith "Needle Damage"--a fusion of all that is hard and funky. He has touredthe world over, releasing numerous highly celebrated singles and popularCD's. The sounds of high energy samples, funky guitars, heavy bass linesand filtered rhythms come through loud and clear on IN STEREO, his releasefor Kinetic. A native of Olympia, WA, DJ DAN first experienced music as awelcome escape, surrounded as he was by nine brothers and sisters. By age14, he'd figured out how to rig his tape deck to the turntable to recordto tape. His involvement with the Bay Area DJ collective Funky Tekno Tribewas a significant milestone on the establishment of what is known today asthe signature West Coast house sound. The sounds of the DJ's--which includedfusing funk and hip-hop with breaks and melodies--were a great influenceon DAN, and caused him to revisit those sounds he loved so much in his youth,thus morphing into his own personalized sound. DJ DAN's international profileexpanded exponentially with the release of the groundbreaking "Loose Caboose"by the Electroliners, a classic track he co-wrote and co-produced with JimHopkins. It was soon picked up by XL Records in the U.K., which led to afruitful partnership between DAN and famed DJ Carl Cox. He's remixed projectsfor Keoki, Groove Armada, Filter, A Tribe Called Quest, Olive and Orgy, thelatter of which obtained platinum status with "Blue Monday." When asked aboutthe direction of music today, DAN says, "Music is hard to categorize nowthan it's ever been. Techno guys playing tracks slowed down could be house...speededup could be techno. I don't think it should be classified. It should be basedon if it's good or not. A good record is a good record." As for his own persona,DJ DAN defies the conventional wisdom that the DJ has to retain a kind ofstandoffish mystique. "I got into this," says DAN, "because I love how peopleunite on the dance floor, bringing in their own energy and excitement. So,I never turn my back on the crowd." And they've never turned their backson him. DJ DAN remains a towering figure in the world of dance music, alwaysa step ahead in bringing new musical styles to his fans. He is a DJ for thepeople burning up dance floors around world. Come realize a COK's dream cometrue with DJ DAN @ Blazin'1:00-2:45AM KEVIN SAUNDERSON (www.worldofdeep.com, www.movementfestival.com , KMS, MI) ONE OF OF OUR GENRE'S PIONEERS-DO NOT MISS THIS! Recently features with his legendary partners in pathmaking, Derrick May,and Juan Atkins on the cover of URB, Kevin has been a pivotal player in electronicdance music since day one. From his youngest days of helping lay the groundworkin the US as well as in Europe, he has toured every single country imaginablewith most recently having visited Poland and Naples. His label continuesto push positive sounds of house and techno with a large platform of experiencedreputable producers with sizable discographies. As if a djing career thathas spanned the globe and a production history the size of webster's dictionarywasn't enough, Kevin and Carl Craig have taken over what was known as theDEMF (Detroit Electronica Music Festival)... this year by turning it intothe Movement Festival. How he found time to come play for us I don't know,but we are humbled and stoked beyond recognition to give you, the people,a true legend of the industry. 2:45-4:15AM BAM BAM [Jackstar, _FadedMuzik, Topaz, DJAX, CNTMN8D, Columns of Knowledge, 2AM, Chicago, www.djbambam.com ] Known for his mixing and scratching debonair dexterity, Chicago's playboyof hard jackin' beats has been ravaging and rotating records to multiplemasses across the globe for 9 years strong. With numerous legal mix compilationsand music production on over 30 vinyl releases under his belt, he has accomplisheda combined total of over 100,000 sales worldwide and is increasing by theminute. Be sure not to miss this master of mayhem as he performs a Chicagostyle blend of sick ass beats and exceptional DJ skills. 12:00-1:00AM X-DREAM (Topaz, Caffeine, Amped Entertainment, Damn! www.djxdream.com) Release party for "Trance Theory 3" on Topaz Records! X-Dream has carved a niche for himself as a DJ and producer within the globaldance community. A DJ who prides himself on perfection, DJ X-Dream is recognizedacross the United States for his impeccable progressive trance mixes andintuitive gift for rocking the dance floor. 11:00-12:00AM KNOWLEDGE (www.columnsofknowledge.com, Columns of Knowledge Recordings, CT) Release party for COK003 Knowledge/Ezrah "Blueprint Training" A new record, a full schedule, and a sound encompassing so much within thegenre... just a few traits NE's longest production company and promoter isknown for. As one of the driving forces of the community, and a passion formusic that is endless, Knowledge continues to achieve excellence throughhis hard work and dedication to the masses. Always a mentally stimulatingchoice behind the decks, he will be sure to lay it down once again. 4:15-5:00AM MADAME BUDDAFLY (www.columnsofknowledge.com, Swarm Records, www.madamebuddafly.com, CT) With her signature blend of dirty techno, electro, and house the Madame returnsto take main stage for another COK event. She can be found rockin' crowdsat her new Sunday Night Wax residency as well as her new internet broadcastevery Friday night on Club246.com from 6-8PM. Recent stops include Mexico,Germany, and Canada... Look for her 3rd vinyl release later this year aswell as she continues to push the limits. 10:00-11:00PM MELEE (Redbull/www.ShadowsOfSociety.com/Nexus Artist Management, NH) Ladies and Gentlemen, Boys and Girls, Cross-eyed Monkey's, and Bow-leggedsquirrels. SOS Bros & Basslines with Bailey's on the rocks Present: "Theunder weight champion of New England, the man, the myth, the legend!!!".....*coughcough cough* blah blah blah. Give up a hand for the ice cream man!!! Breaksand Beats at their finest, supplied by NuEngland's Break Selector! 5:00-6:00AM JAY ALLEGRO aka WEEZ (True, Mother Tongue, MA) Known to the Asylum as Weez, this will be Jay's 30th event here since joining True in 1999. He's come a long way in that time- from opening for the legendary Orbital to his accomplishments as a producer over the last year - His entry with Mike Kiraly in the Sasha remix contest for Kinetic Records placed in the top ten out of over 700 national entries - He was recently signed to Mother Tongue records and has 2 original EP's coming out in the fall as well as doing a remix for Tommy Boy Records. You can pick up his two white labels in stores now - "Oh Yeah 2003" and "From Bangkok to Chicago". An awesome opening to this summer blowout event! 9:00-10:00PM FLAMIN' SKULLS: FREAKY FLOW & MC FLIPSIDE (Moonshine, djfreakflow.com, mcflipside.com, Toronto, Canada) Freaky Flow first took a serious interest in music at the age of eleven,mesmerized by soul jazz, garage house, and hiphop. Four years later, he purchasedhis first set of turntables and started spinning hiphop with his skilledpartner, D-Wreck. Through this genre, Freaky learned the basics – scratching,cutting, and mixing – in just that prioritized order. Jungle, drumandbass,and the underground music culture soon captured his attention; Flow, in turn,transferred his knowledge of hiphop into this new, captivating music. Consequently,Freaky Flow (always with MC Flipside on the microphone) plays on a regularbasis at major events throughout Canada, the US, Mexico, Puerto Rico, Japan,Hong Kong, Germany, and most recently England. With his partner in crime,MC Flipside, Freaky Flow oversaw the operation of Placebo Recordings. Histhird CD – the first ever live CD that Flow has recorded – entitled “KeepIt Live” (released 2002), features MC Flipside on the microphone. Watch forfuture mix CD’s to be released soon on Topaz Records, New York. MC Flipsidehas torn the house down on the mic as well at such legendary COK shows: FreshStart 2000, and last years massive So Fresh & So Clean. It's no surpriseas his infamous broadcast show "Trippin" in Toronto was host to over 600000weekly listeners. These two together... the room's about to go BOOM! 2:30-4:00AM LENNY DEE (www.industrialstrengthrecords.com, NY) Lenny Dee is recognized as one of New York's earliest Techno pioneers. His earlier music consisted of Disco, Electro-Body, High Energy and early House.Lenny furthered his career by collaborating with Techno legend Frankie Bones and the DJ / Producer/dj team was born. Their music catapulted on the British charts, with the XL-Recordings release Looney Tunes in 1989. The two Brooklyn born natives stormed through the UK'S dance scene with a style of breaksand pounding grooves that still influences Techno music today. In the 90'sLenny Dee was twice awarded the accolade of 'Best Worldwide Techno DJ' bythe Scottish Dance Music Awards. Frontpage Magazine heralded him as 'InternationalDJ of the Year' and he has received wide spread coverage in other dance musicpublications like DJ Times, MixMag, Musik and Mixer Magazine. Lenny Dee continues to DJ all around the world, having played in over 20 different countries and all across the USA from Australia through Western & EasternEurope and as far as Russia and Japan. He has performed at most big events including to over a million people at the Love Parade in Berlin, Techno StreetParades in Paris, Switzerland and Hamburg, Mayday in Germany, Tribal GatheringUK, Woodstock 2000 NYC, and the Jane's Addiction Reunion Tour in NYC 1997. Lenny launched Industrial Strength Records in the U.S.A. in 1991with PCP's'Mescalinium United', becoming the first Hardcore Techno labels in the world and one of the first Electronic Labels in the U.S.A. His label has featuredartists such as Carl Cox, Richie Hawtin, Laurent Garnier, Daft Punk, TheMover, DJ Paul, Manu le Malin, Cirillo, Oliver Chesler and Nasenbluten amongother ground breaking music that has pioneered the label through the decade.The catalog now boasts almost 750 titles. ISR's music has appeared on over 550 compilations worldwide with sales on over 3 million Cds. His latest cd"Chillin Is Killin" out now, featuring 2 very diverse but equally slammingdisks - the first laced with ambient overtones and the second disk's powerfulspeedcore mixed with heavy metal mixes. Lenny Dee's recent Hardhouse 12 inch titled 'The Dude' with DJ Panic and The Beholder (DJ Neophyte) is out now on Seismic Records in Holland withan EP for X Traxx in the works. On the techno front, Lenny has completed a 12 inch with the infamous Chris Liberator and Darc Marc out now on the Liberator'sUnderground label 'Maximum / Minimum' . It is awesome to have Lenny backwith us as he headlined some of the best events we've ever done: ALIVE, ALLOUT SUNSHINE, WINTER WONDERLAND... welcome back LENNY! 1:00-2:30AM THE DOWLZNICK (Grooveside, Circa footwear, 35th Ave Skateboards, seattle) By co-owning one of Seattles largest productioncompanies and blowing up clubsand raves all over North America, most would say The Dowlznick is definetlyrunning things for the Northwest drum and bass community. You saw him rockthe "Freshie" massive last February at the Asylum. Expect nothing less this time around.Major dubplate pressure, fast paced innovative mixing and properly executedreloads. 12:00-1:00AM TOCSIN *LIVE PA* Comprised of:(Dismal, Low-Key and T-Bone) established themselves in the underground with releases on Industrial Strength, Apocalypse and Black Monolith. With influences of metal, punk, industrial, hip-hop, and techno, Tocsin has created a unique sound that they can call their own. Combining disturbing visuals and aggressive danceable beats, Tocsin brings a live experience that will not be forgotten. Not your typical hardcoreact by far these folks have been known to terrorize and turn heads insideout all across the country. It's a true hardcore session for the true headztonight. Do not miss it! 11:00-12:00AM JOSH HOLIDAY (Local 13/DnBASF Records- Philly) Josh Holiday is back once again; if you saw his set @ "Happy Holidays 2 U"you know why not to miss it this time. Josh has been working hard in theoffice & Lab working on his lable DnBASF Records as head of A&R anda producer. Look out latter this year for the fisrt release, "The Art ofWar". 4:00-5:00AM WHITE RUSSIAN (www.djwhiterussian.com, www.ruffneckplayazcrew.com, MA) Trancecore galore by one of the beantown area's best kept secrets. Musicfor the headz and an inspiring way to close out the night on a hard note. PAULYSTEP (Volume Productions, www.volumeproductions.com, RI) This man continues to make a name for himself in NE by offering up funky head boppin Drum and bass, blending bangin jump up and hip step. Youbetter get down and shake that ass...or get run over. 10:00PM-11:00PM PSYTECH (Darkstar Musik, MA) Coming to the asylum for the very first time, this man will be dropping nastyDnB and mashup Ragga jungle to kick the night off with a fast pace tornadoof beats. Behind the scenes and a key player in the COK deco crew, this man'sbeen paying in dues and now will get to rock the tunes for all of you! Blazea trail... 9:00-10:00PM GRILLIN' N BASTIN': MARK BEE (Satellite Records,UDG NYC) VS PAT FONTES (Satellite Records, www.shadowsofsociety.com, Boston MA) SATELLITE BOSTON VS SATELLITE NYC! NO HOLDS BARRED! For those who don't know, Mark's contributions to the underground span adecade and his dedication to sound is beyond denial. Structure, his infamousclubnight under the NJ Underground brandname (which featured JahRed and GlennGarcia as founding members) was a staple of its generation... a staple inthe tradition of Buzz, Boom, Realizations, and Together. For NJ it set astandard for many yrs. Now hard at work in the Satellite NYC warehouse andhas been djing all over the globe with his signature intelligent yet drivintechno/house sound. Pat Fontes... one of beantown's most beloved playas...mgr of Satellite Boston and head buyer there... 7 yrs behind the decks anda constant clubbing/underground schedule as well. Was this not forseen bythe Gods? It's gonna go down! If you like it deep but hard, driving yet intelligent,progressive but funky it's gonna get absolutely insane for this 90 mins thatwill altar the course of your life forever! 2:00-3:30AM SAPPHIRE (Grooveside, Seattle, WA) Seattle's hottest mixtress always brings the phat bass and hot melodies. With her smooth mix of funky house, 2step and garage you cannot help but feel the groove. 1:00-2:00AM SHANEDADDY (www.drumnbreaks.com, NY) & SCOTTY MACK (Stuck On Earth, XLR8 Recordings, NJ) Funky as afterparty panties is how it's gonna be listening to these two NYCveterans rip it up! Get ready for a lethal combination of 2step, breaks,house and turntablism when these pimps hit the decks. 3:30-5:00AM SOMA (Audiophile, NY) VS NRGIZER (LightUP Productions, L.I., NY) Dj Soma's name has been well known all over the northeast for his Hard Trance/NRGsets. Tonight he is back at the Asylum tag teaming with DJ Nrgizer, LI'sup and comer for their first tag team in New England. They represent thehard dance sound proper, and on this night, New England will hear and seewhat they have been missing. As a bonus Nrgizer's got his hot new cd releasetonite, "Journey thru Trance". Get yourself a giveaway and go nuts! 10:00-11:00PM XONEL SMART (Hard to Swallow, Stuck on Earth, www.xonelsmart.com) Coming from Philly, playing at many of the east coast's larger events, appearingon upcoming Hard to Swallow 009 with Frankie Bones, Circuit Breaker and Hectic,and coming with the sound of breakbeat techno this quick rising star hasbeen payin' his dues and playin' his blues, not he's gonna take you higherand farther. 12:00-1:00AM MIKE ILL (Trojanforce,NH) Djing since 93 mike has tenaciously been working to ensure well balancedsets for each and every gig he plays. Pushing for a more orginized technocommunity this is MIKE ILL 11:00-12:00AM SPLASH (Columns of Knowledge, www.turnagainheights.com, CT) VS DJ CHANCE(Parallax Soundz, fortheravers.com, djchance.net, MA) Since day 1 it's been sibling rivalry w/o being related... now it's gonnago down... get to Blazin b4 we open to rush in and get down as these 2 dropssome of the illest hard acid trance and hard dance nrg. It's gonna get hotand nasty real quick. 9:00-10:00PM PRIME aka ritalin (bassconnection/illusion/gsp/raversonly.com) With a dominating old school mixture of hardcore, trance, and house, Primeis quickly climbing the ladder of success.PRIME's UK hardhouse sounds arebeing met with great review's to all that have witnessed his skill's on theturntable's. Definiately a DJ not to sleep on, his energetic flow leavescrowd's with fist's pumping and sweat dripping. A great way to end this morningproper. 5:00-6:00AM STEAMVENT: OSMOTIC (Twin, Innerchild - Pittsburgh, PA) Osmotic comes to us from the urban landscape of Pittsburgh, bringing with him his unique blend of house, energy, and funk. In addition to his coast to coast engagement ensemble, Osmotic is also a driving force within Pittsburgh's house community as a promoter of multiple club nights and one-off events. Prepare for a taste of Pittsburgh's finest. 1:00-3:00AM JUSTIN R.E.M.(Flex Productions, Nexus Artist Management, Sonicc AM, VT) Currently he is resident of "Revolver" @ 135-Pearl and “Sunday Night Mass”at Club Metronome; Vermont’s #1 weekly underground event. As if this wasn'tenough add Nexus Artist Mgt to the mix, his own recently launched agencyand you can see how his knowledge of the genre has made him a key figurein the VT community. 11:00-12:00AM THOMAS FOLTRON (VIPrecordsUSA.com, nj / SkylabNewYork.com, ny) Whether its his sponsorship through Skylab, his smooth blendings of progressiveand funky intelligent trance perfect for the morning hrs, or his unendingsupport of the underground through VIP Records, one of the top spots fordance music in NJ, Thomas always comes correct. He is also a member of Harken'srecord pool. We're very pleased to be brining' him back again since his lastengagement with us @ Positive in 2001. 3:00-4:00AM DANNY CRUZ (IMAGINE! (CT) imaginect@yahoo.com) Tonight, Dan’s making a triumphant return afta a 1 yr hiatus (got married & had a gorgeous child–Congrats to Dan, Meghan, & Logan!) He'll be showcasing a full-on arsenal of scorching hot disko phunkers, that's so Blazin, it'll make the sun sweat - for those who want to leave this massive on the serious tip. 4:00-5:00AM Adam Strange (Turnagain Heights, Spiritual Emporium, CT) Adam has been making some noise in his home state as of late and is sure to make this a memorable evening with his signature style of nu-skool breaks. 10:00PM-11:00PM DJ Rocksteady (ctNRG.com, RGW, Ego Free Prod.) As the owner and operator of ctNRG.com, Rocksteady has no doubt shown hisdevotion to the local scene. Whether he's shooting photos, making videos,recording sets, you know you can find him out and about at any given partyor club on the weekend. When he takes time from his busy schedule to actuallyplay some records, he has never failed to get a crowd moving! Having playedaround CT an d most recently at Club Exit in NYC, Rocksteady is primed forthe big time. 9:00-10:00PM VENUE: ASYLUM 1592 MAIN ST SPRINGFIELD MA DIRECTIONS: randmcnally.com or call us or log on week of event INFOLINE: 203-287-8398 WEB: www.columnsofknowledge.com EMAIL: chrismcdo@aol.com Join the mailing list TICKETS: $26 in advance,$31 door OUTLETS: ID IS A MUST! PROMOTERS MUST CALL/EMAIL FOR COMPS BY 7/25/03 Online: www.spinfoil.com CT: Spiritual Emporium 860-524-9719 MA: Satellite 617-536-5482 Growroom 413-549-9296 4-Front 617-236-0335 RI: Luna Sea 401-272-5862 NY Satellite 212-995-1744 Altar 518-690-2816 VT: Joyryde 802-863-9166 www.joyrydestudios.com NH/ME: www.bullmoose.com log on to find a bullmoose near u! RELEASES from Columns of Knowledge Recordings: COK001 Todd Buckler "Pillowtalk/Cold" COK002 Bam Bam "Head Trauma" COK003 Knowledge/Ezrah "Blueprint Training" COK004 Venom "The Floorbanger" COK 005 cd Dj Knowledge "LIVE @ BOO 7" in stores NOW DIRECTIONS: from Vermont, upper western MA etc: Take 91 South to exit 7 (downtown). Go left off the ramp. Make a left at the 3rd light onto Main St. Go 3 blocks at the Asylum will be on your left side at the corner of Main/Worthington. from RI: take RT 146 North to 90 West. Take 90W to exit 6 for 291W. Take 291W until it merges with 91S. Take 91S to exit 7. Go left off the ramp. Make a left on Main St. Go 3 blocks and the club is on your left. from Boston, Worcester MA points: take 90W to exit 6 for 291W. Take 291W to 91S. Take 91S to exit 7. Go left off the ramp. Go left on Main St. Club will be on your left after 3 blocks. from Maine and New Hampshire pts: take 95S to 495S to 290 W to 90W. Take 90W to 291W to 91S. Take 91S to exit 7. Make a left off the ramp. Make a left on Main St. Go 3 blocks. Club is on the left. from Upstate NY: Take 87N or 87S to 90E. Take 90E in Massachusetts. Get off exit 4 which is RT5 South. Take that for 5 miles until you get to the 147W exit. Sign will say West Springfield.Agawam. Go around the rotary and over the bridge into Springfield. Go left on Main St. Go 3 blocks and the club will be on your left. Thanks from CT,NYC, PA, NJ etc: take 95N to 91N. 91N into MA and take exit 4. Go through5 lights and make a right on Worthington St. Club is 1/2 block down on left. -- To unsubscribe from: Columns of Knowledge, just follow this link: http://list.columnsofknowledge.com/cgi-bin/mojo/mojo.cgi?f=u&l=Columns_of_Knowledge&e=ne-raves@hyperreal.org&p=7507 Click the link, or copy and paste the address into your browser. From odjallen@glue.umd.edu Sat Jul 26 09:16:54 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19815 invoked from network); 26 Jul 2003 09:16:54 -0000 Received: from mintaka.isr.umd.edu (128.8.111.4) by taz3.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Jul 2003 09:16:54 -0000 Received: from cygnus.isr.umd.edu (IDENT:odjallen@cygnus.isr.umd.edu [128.8.111.138]) by mintaka.isr.umd.edu (8.11.6p2/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h6Q9Gm724727; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 05:16:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (odjallen@localhost) by cygnus.isr.umd.edu (8.9.3p2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA24650; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 05:16:46 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: cygnus.isr.umd.edu: odjallen owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 05:16:46 -0400 (EDT) From: j a c k s 0 n X-X-Sender: odjallen@cygnus.isr.umd.edu To: eastcoastravescene@yahoogroups.com, ne-jungle-dnb@yahoogroups.com, ne-raves@hyperreal.org, nyc-raves@hyperreal.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: .: Dirtbox Radio Tonight : A.L.I.A.S. Takeover : K-Lungz :. boh boh boh! got some ill drum 'n' bass for y'all tonight. the veritable A.L.I.A.S. residents are showin' tonight as well as Partner in Crime K-Lungz. All ill dnb stylee. Check out the lineup: 07-09 pm EST - K-Lungz [Stonefinger, In The Mix 88.1 FM, Dirtbox Radio, Partners in Crime, K-Yun.com // DC] 09-11 pm EST - Titts & Arse [A.L.I.A.S., Krunk, Kind Bass Inc., Tittsworth.com // DC] 11-01 am EST - John Tab [A.L.I.A.S., Buzzlife.com // DC] 01-03 am EST - ODJ [A.L.I.A.S., Dirtbox Radio, Partners in Crime, Trividual Productions // DC] K-Lungz (aka K-Yun) has played venues around the globe, drawing on many years of musical experience playing drums in a variety of bands as well as hangin around the studio quite a bit. Currently the Lungz co-hosts In the Mix (http://www.inthemix1.com) with DeeJay Clutch, every Thursday night on college Park's own 88.1 FM. Make sure y'all tune in (you can grab web audio links on the site) on August 7th, as they celebrate their 4-year anniversary. A.L.I.A.S. is held every week at one of DC's premeir venues, Nation, alongside one of our longest-running Goth nights, Alchemy. It's a really tight mix of cats, featuring DNB, Breaks, Electro, EBM, and a host of live Goth acts and such. A.L.I.A.S. residents John Tab, Titts & Arse (Jesse Tittsworth & Brian Arsenault), and Dirtbox's own ODJ hold down fort alongside featured artists including Total Science, Baron, A-Sides, and Twisted Individual. It's always a good time, it's cheap, and they have $5 pitchers:):) Send ODJ an email for more information & reduced list spots. To tune in tonight, go to http://www.dirtboxradio.com/listen.html or click on one of the following direct links: 64k stream - http://jungletrain.net/64kbps.pls 24k stream - http://jungletrain.net/24kbps.pls chatroom - http://jungletrain.net/chat.htm webcam - http://glue.umd.edu/~odjallen/dirtboxradio/webcam.html Archives of the night will be stored, as always, on our website - so that way you can listen to 'em again:) If you'd like to come and play on Dirtbox, send us an email at bookme@dirtboxradio.com. We feature mostly DNB, with a spattering of Breaks and Hip-Hop talent. If you're well outside of the DC Metro area, just send us a CD and if we like it, we'll play it! That includes production as well. I hope to see y'all online & in the chat room tonight. Be safe, and eat your weaties. Jackson (ODJ) [Partners in Crime, Dirtbox Radio, Trividual Productions, A.L.I.A.S.] .....................jackson. .partners.in.crime........... .dirtbox.radio............... .trividual.productions....... .third.leg.productions....... .a.l.i.a.s................... .........................odj. From odjallen@glue.umd.edu Sat Jul 26 09:17:21 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20408 invoked from network); 26 Jul 2003 09:17:21 -0000 Received: from mintaka.isr.umd.edu (128.8.111.4) by taz3.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Jul 2003 09:17:21 -0000 Received: from cygnus.isr.umd.edu (IDENT:odjallen@cygnus.isr.umd.edu [128.8.111.138]) by mintaka.isr.umd.edu (8.11.6p2/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h6Q9HF724746; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 05:17:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (odjallen@localhost) by cygnus.isr.umd.edu (8.9.3p2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA24654; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 05:17:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: cygnus.isr.umd.edu: odjallen owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 05:17:13 -0400 (EDT) From: j a c k s 0 n X-X-Sender: odjallen@cygnus.isr.umd.edu To: eastcoastravescene@yahoogroups.com, ne-jungle-dnb@yahoogroups.com, ne-raves@hyperreal.org, nyc-raves@hyperreal.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: .: Dirtbox Radio Tonight : A.L.I.A.S. Takeover : K-Lungz :. boh boh boh! got some ill drum 'n' bass for y'all tonight. the veritable A.L.I.A.S. residents are showin' tonight as well as Partner in Crime K-Lungz. All ill dnb stylee. Check out the lineup: 07-09 pm EST - K-Lungz [Stonefinger, In The Mix 88.1 FM, Dirtbox Radio, Partners in Crime, K-Yun.com // DC] 09-11 pm EST - Titts & Arse [A.L.I.A.S., Krunk, Kind Bass Inc., Tittsworth.com // DC] 11-01 am EST - John Tab [A.L.I.A.S., Buzzlife.com // DC] 01-03 am EST - ODJ [A.L.I.A.S., Dirtbox Radio, Partners in Crime, Trividual Productions // DC] K-Lungz (aka K-Yun) has played venues around the globe, drawing on many years of musical experience playing drums in a variety of bands as well as hangin around the studio quite a bit. Currently the Lungz co-hosts In the Mix (http://www.inthemix1.com) with DeeJay Clutch, every Thursday night on college Park's own 88.1 FM. Make sure y'all tune in (you can grab web audio links on the site) on August 7th, as they celebrate their 4-year anniversary. A.L.I.A.S. is held every week at one of DC's premeir venues, Nation, alongside one of our longest-running Goth nights, Alchemy. It's a really tight mix of cats, featuring DNB, Breaks, Electro, EBM, and a host of live Goth acts and such. A.L.I.A.S. residents John Tab, Titts & Arse (Jesse Tittsworth & Brian Arsenault), and Dirtbox's own ODJ hold down fort alongside featured artists including Total Science, Baron, A-Sides, and Twisted Individual. It's always a good time, it's cheap, and they have $5 pitchers:):) Send ODJ an email for more information & reduced list spots. To tune in tonight, go to http://www.dirtboxradio.com/listen.html or click on one of the following direct links: 64k stream - http://jungletrain.net/64kbps.pls 24k stream - http://jungletrain.net/24kbps.pls chatroom - http://jungletrain.net/chat.htm webcam - http://glue.umd.edu/~odjallen/dirtboxradio/webcam.html Archives of the night will be stored, as always, on our website - so that way you can listen to 'em again:) If you'd like to come and play on Dirtbox, send us an email at bookme@dirtboxradio.com. We feature mostly DNB, with a spattering of Breaks and Hip-Hop talent. If you're well outside of the DC Metro area, just send us a CD and if we like it, we'll play it! That includes production as well. I hope to see y'all online & in the chat room tonight. Be safe, and eat your weaties. Jackson (ODJ) [Partners in Crime, Dirtbox Radio, Trividual Productions, A.L.I.A.S.] .....................jackson. .partners.in.crime........... .dirtbox.radio............... .trividual.productions....... .third.leg.productions....... .a.l.i.a.s................... .........................odj. From Nuclear81@aol.com Sat Jul 26 14:07:12 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Delivered-To: moderator for ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 67284 invoked from network); 26 Jul 2003 14:07:12 -0000 Received: from imo-r03.mx.aol.com (152.163.225.99) by taz3.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Jul 2003 14:07:12 -0000 Received: from Nuclear81@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id 3.1da.e9bab96 (15862); Sat, 26 Jul 2003 10:07:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aol.com (mow-m25.webmail.aol.com [64.12.137.2]) by air-id06.mx.aol.com (v95.1) with ESMTP id MAILINID61-3df63f228b032c3; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 10:07:00 -0400 Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 10:06:59 -0400 From: nUCleaR81@aol.com To: odjallen@glue.umd.edu (j a c k s 0 n), eastcoastravescene@yahoogroups.com, ne-jungle-dnb@yahoogroups.com, ne-raves@hyperreal.org, nyc-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <6B8CA291.1DD95ADE.030B4993@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [nyc-raves] Union Square hey, I don't know if anyone else was at union square last night around midnight or not, but if not, there were 2 breaking circles goin on at once. it was pretty hot cause in one of the circles there was some old dudes playing bongo's and flutes for music. i thought it was pretty funny From odjallen@glue.umd.edu Sat Jul 26 18:54:23 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25276 invoked from network); 26 Jul 2003 18:54:23 -0000 Received: from mail7.speakeasy.net (HELO mail.speakeasy.net) (216.254.0.207) by taz3.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Jul 2003 18:54:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 12658 invoked from network); 26 Jul 2003 18:54:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO twentythree) ([66.92.166.180]) (envelope-sender ) by mail7.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 26 Jul 2003 18:54:21 -0000 Message-ID: <047401c353a7$55470f30$c701a8c0@twentythree> From: "j a c k s 0 n" To: , , , References: Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 14:54:24 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: .: Dirtbox Radio Tonight : A.L.I.A.S. Takeover : K-Lungz :. Yeah, um... whoops. Dirtbox is on Sunday as usual:) Don't mind me.... Jackson ----- Original Message ----- From: "j a c k s 0 n" To: ; ; ; Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 5:17 AM Subject: [EastCoastRaveScene] .: Dirtbox Radio Tonight : A.L.I.A.S. Takeover : K-Lungz :. > boh boh boh! > > got some ill drum 'n' bass for y'all tonight. > > the veritable A.L.I.A.S. residents are showin' tonight as well as Partner > in Crime K-Lungz. All ill dnb stylee. Check out the lineup: > > 07-09 pm EST - K-Lungz [Stonefinger, In The Mix 88.1 FM, Dirtbox Radio, > Partners in Crime, K-Yun.com // DC] > 09-11 pm EST - Titts & Arse [A.L.I.A.S., Krunk, Kind Bass Inc., > Tittsworth.com // DC] > 11-01 am EST - John Tab [A.L.I.A.S., Buzzlife.com // DC] > 01-03 am EST - ODJ [A.L.I.A.S., Dirtbox Radio, Partners in Crime, > Trividual Productions // DC] > > K-Lungz (aka K-Yun) has played venues around the globe, drawing on many > years of musical experience playing drums in a variety of bands as well as > hangin around the studio quite a bit. Currently the Lungz co-hosts In the > Mix (http://www.inthemix1.com) with DeeJay Clutch, every Thursday night on > college Park's own 88.1 FM. Make sure y'all tune in (you can grab web > audio links on the site) on August 7th, as they celebrate their 4-year > anniversary. > > A.L.I.A.S. is held every week at one of DC's premeir venues, Nation, > alongside one of our longest-running Goth nights, Alchemy. It's a really > tight mix of cats, featuring DNB, Breaks, Electro, EBM, and a host of live > Goth acts and such. A.L.I.A.S. residents John Tab, Titts & Arse (Jesse > Tittsworth & Brian Arsenault), and Dirtbox's own ODJ hold down fort > alongside featured artists including Total Science, Baron, A-Sides, and > Twisted Individual. It's always a good time, it's cheap, and they have $5 > pitchers:):) Send ODJ an email for more information & reduced list spots. > > To tune in tonight, go to http://www.dirtboxradio.com/listen.html or click > on one of the following direct links: > 64k stream - http://jungletrain.net/64kbps.pls > 24k stream - http://jungletrain.net/24kbps.pls > chatroom - http://jungletrain.net/chat.htm > webcam - http://glue.umd.edu/~odjallen/dirtboxradio/webcam.html > > Archives of the night will be stored, as always, on our website - so that > way you can listen to 'em again:) > > If you'd like to come and play on Dirtbox, send us an email at > bookme@dirtboxradio.com. We feature mostly DNB, with a spattering of > Breaks and Hip-Hop talent. If you're well outside of the DC Metro area, > just send us a CD and if we like it, we'll play it! That includes > production as well. > > I hope to see y'all online & in the chat room tonight. Be safe, and eat > your weaties. > > Jackson (ODJ) > [Partners in Crime, Dirtbox Radio, Trividual Productions, A.L.I.A.S.] > > .....................jackson. > .partners.in.crime........... > .dirtbox.radio............... > .trividual.productions....... > .third.leg.productions....... > .a.l.i.a.s................... > .........................odj. > > ------------------------ Yahoo! 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Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > From odjallen@glue.umd.edu Sun Jul 27 19:49:54 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 38942 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2003 19:49:54 -0000 Received: from mail15.speakeasy.net (HELO mail.speakeasy.net) (216.254.0.215) by taz3.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Jul 2003 19:49:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 28300 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2003 19:49:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO twentythree) ([66.92.166.180]) (envelope-sender ) by mail15.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 27 Jul 2003 19:49:51 -0000 Message-ID: <07ba01c35478$40d3b1d0$c701a8c0@twentythree> From: "j a c k s 0 n" To: , , , References: <047401c353a7$55470f30$c701a8c0@twentythree> Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 15:49:54 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: .: Dirtbox Radio *Tonight* : A.L.I.A.S. Crew Takeover : K-Lungz :. O.K., Now it's Sunday:) Read on.... > > got some ill drum 'n' bass for y'all tonight. > > > > the veritable A.L.I.A.S. residents are showin' tonight as well as Partner > > in Crime K-Lungz. All ill dnb stylee. Check out the lineup: > > > > 07-09 pm EST - K-Lungz [Stonefinger, In The Mix 88.1 FM, Dirtbox Radio, > > Partners in Crime, K-Yun.com // DC] > > 09-11 pm EST - Titts & Arse [A.L.I.A.S., Krunk, Kind Bass Inc., > > Tittsworth.com // DC] > > 11-01 am EST - John Tab [A.L.I.A.S., Buzzlife.com // DC] > > 01-03 am EST - ODJ [A.L.I.A.S., Dirtbox Radio, Partners in Crime, > > Trividual Productions // DC] > > > > K-Lungz (aka K-Yun) has played venues around the globe, drawing on many > > years of musical experience playing drums in a variety of bands as well as > > hangin around the studio quite a bit. Currently the Lungz co-hosts In the > > Mix (http://www.inthemix1.com) with DeeJay Clutch, every Thursday night on > > college Park's own 88.1 FM. Make sure y'all tune in (you can grab web > > audio links on the site) on August 7th, as they celebrate their 4-year > > anniversary. > > > > A.L.I.A.S. is held every week at one of DC's premeir venues, Nation, > > alongside one of our longest-running Goth nights, Alchemy. It's a really > > tight mix of cats, featuring DNB, Breaks, Electro, EBM, and a host of live > > Goth acts and such. A.L.I.A.S. residents John Tab, Titts & Arse (Jesse > > Tittsworth & Brian Arsenault), and Dirtbox's own ODJ hold down fort > > alongside featured artists including Total Science, Baron, A-Sides, and > > Twisted Individual. It's always a good time, it's cheap, and they have $5 > > pitchers:):) Send ODJ an email for more information & reduced list spots. > > > > To tune in tonight, go to http://www.dirtboxradio.com/listen.html or click > > on one of the following direct links: > > 64k stream - http://jungletrain.net/64kbps.pls > > 24k stream - http://jungletrain.net/24kbps.pls > > chatroom - http://jungletrain.net/chat.htm > > webcam - http://glue.umd.edu/~odjallen/dirtboxradio/webcam.html > > > > Archives of the night will be stored, as always, on our website - so that > > way you can listen to 'em again:) > > > > If you'd like to come and play on Dirtbox, send us an email at > > bookme@dirtboxradio.com. We feature mostly DNB, with a spattering of > > Breaks and Hip-Hop talent. If you're well outside of the DC Metro area, > > just send us a CD and if we like it, we'll play it! That includes > > production as well. > > > > I hope to see y'all online & in the chat room tonight. Be safe, and eat > > your weaties. > > > > Jackson (ODJ) > > [Partners in Crime, Dirtbox Radio, Trividual Productions, A.L.I.A.S.] > > > > .....................jackson. > > .partners.in.crime........... > > .dirtbox.radio............... > > .trividual.productions....... > > .third.leg.productions....... > > .a.l.i.a.s................... > > .........................odj. > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > EastCoastRaveScene-unsubscribe@egroups.com > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! 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Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > From soulchampionboston@yahoo.com Mon Jul 28 06:01:06 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 73420 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2003 06:01:06 -0000 Received: from web11805.mail.yahoo.com (216.136.172.159) by taz3.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Jul 2003 06:01:06 -0000 Message-ID: <20030728060101.87752.qmail@web11805.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [65.96.165.47] by web11805.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 23:01:01 PDT Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 23:01:01 -0700 (PDT) From: SoulChampion To: L02 <2-step@yahoogroups.com>, L03 <2steppin@yahoogroups.com>, L04 , L05 , L06 <2StepsAhead@yahoogroups.com>, L07 , L08 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: LIVELY RETURNS... 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SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From jasper@hyperreal.org Mon Jul 28 13:53:52 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 99877 invoked by uid 1046); 28 Jul 2003 13:53:52 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 28 Jul 2003 13:53:52 -0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 06:53:52 -0700 (PDT) From: jasper To: SoulChampion cc: L08 In-Reply-To: <20030728060101.87752.qmail@web11805.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20030728064951.S96446@taz3.hyperreal.org> References: <20030728060101.87752.qmail@web11805.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] LIVELY RETURNS... THIS WEDNESDAY 07.30.03 (BOSTON) > Representing all styles of Underground Garage Music > including: 2-Step, 4x4, Breakstep, Dubstep, > 8Bar/Sublow, UK Garage, and North American Underground > Garage. Am I so out of it that all these new genres have escaped my notice? What the heck is 4x4 and 8Bar? Are these sub-sub-sub-ad infinitum genres really necesssary? What happened to days when people liked listening to all differnt kinds of music? Now people get all upset if you for example taint a tech step set with something else. Jasper From acidgrav@commerce.planet2net.net Mon Jul 28 14:13:49 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13217 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2003 14:13:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO commerce.planet2net.net) (205.214.82.96) by taz3.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Jul 2003 14:13:49 -0000 Received: from acidgrav by commerce.planet2net.net with local (Exim 4.20) id 19h8l0-0006l2-0b; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 10:13:46 -0400 From: "t-bone" To: jasper ,L08 Reply-To: t-bone@acidgrave.com X-Mailer: NeoMail 1.25 X-IPAddress: 127.0.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 10:13:46 -0400 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - commerce.planet2net.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32004 32004] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - commerce.planet2net.net X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] LIVELY RETURNS... THIS WEDNESDAY 07.30.03 (BOSTON) I keep trying to explain to kids, using a different instrument or changing up a beat a little bit does not a new genre make. Don't worry Jasper- it's been building up to the point of ridiculousness for a couple years and will soon annhiliate from within. The point of lables is to help people undestand what you are talking about. Once you reach a point where labels no longer describe something that ppl can relate to, they will fall away. I hit the breaking point where ppl were telling me what kind of music I write when I never heard the term. If the producers can't follow, I highly doubt the average music listen can follow what's going on either. Ppl are just making shit up to sound kewl. t-bone p.s. Last I checked, 4X4 is a vehicle. :) > > Representing all styles of Underground Garage Music > > including: 2-Step, 4x4, Breakstep, Dubstep, > > 8Bar/Sublow, UK Garage, and North American Underground > > Garage. > > Am I so out of it that all these new genres have escaped my notice? What the > heck is 4x4 and 8Bar? Are these sub-sub-sub-ad infinitum genres really > necesssary? > > What happened to days when people liked listening to all differnt kinds of > music? Now people get all upset if you for example taint a tech step set with > something else. > > Jasper > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org > > > -------------- I'd rather stay a child and keep my self respect If being an adult means being like you! -dead kennedys From soulchampionboston@yahoo.com Mon Jul 28 14:58:45 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27759 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2003 14:58:45 -0000 Received: from web11808.mail.yahoo.com (216.136.172.162) by taz3.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Jul 2003 14:58:45 -0000 Message-ID: <20030728145844.69672.qmail@web11808.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [141.154.224.159] by web11808.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 07:58:44 PDT Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 07:58:44 -0700 (PDT) From: SoulChampion To: jasper Cc: L08 In-Reply-To: <20030728064951.S96446@taz3.hyperreal.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] LIVELY RETURNS... THIS WEDNESDAY 07.30.03 (BOSTON) > Am I so out of it that all these new genres have > escaped my notice? What the heck is 4x4 and 8Bar? > Are these sub-sub-sub-ad infinitum genres really > necesssary? They're not genres. They are all just different styles of Garage. > What happened to days when people liked listening to > all differnt kinds of music? Now people get all > upset if you for example taint a tech step set with > something else. Well, that's why we are representing all different flavors of Garage together, to offer variety within the genre "Underground Garage" so that you don't have to listen to the same tune all night. There is an amazing range of different sounds within the blanket term "Garage" we just want to shed a little light on some of the differnt varieties and flavors. It would basically be like starting a DrumnBass night and saying "representing Ragga, Hardstep, Jump-Up, Techstep..." Just different styles or movements within the genre. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From skinner@hyperreal.org Mon Jul 28 17:29:30 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11320 invoked by uid 1126); 28 Jul 2003 17:29:30 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 28 Jul 2003 17:29:30 -0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 10:29:30 -0700 (PDT) From: skinner To: ne-raves@hyperreal.org Message-ID: <20030728102743.W10038@taz3.hyperreal.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: blazin review I went to Blazin this weekend in Mass. The location Asylum really needs to invest in this neat invention that came into be around 1950.s called powered ventilation. It was just way to hot to deal with, thank god for having a Air-conditioned Hotel Room. Most of the parties. music I could give a rat.s ass about and ignored. My main goal for going was to support BMR artists and Lenny Dee. Tocsin.s set was amazing and I am very proud of my friends and BMR performers. There show musically was great, and visually was amazing. But what made this show the best was the fact that because of a great visual show integrated into there performance, they managed to keep the room filled with an audience who normally would not get exposed to this kind of music. This alone has done a lot more for the hardcore scene then parties that have been going on and ONLY cater to hardcore kids who already know about the music. The visuals were so entertaining people were video taping; taking pictures but most of all cheering ever time certain video clips were worked in. The people were entertained and enjoying themselves. Musically they did very well keeping the set flowing without any real breaks until the end where they were forced to cut there set some. Over all I think this was a great show for them. It also allowed for over 100 CDs to be handed out to the audience so they can get even more exposure to hardcore techno. Lenny Dee played one amazing set. It.s been a while since he was this solid domestically. But he was point on. He was slamming some amazing toons back to back with a great fluidity. I had to trainspot a few of the tracks because they were very tasty and crunchy hardcore techno, something along my flavor of playing. Unfortunately I had to leave before he was done because I am old and get tired fast. But he was playing an extended set because another DJ didn.t show up. The room for Lenny was filled and kids were dancing non stop. He did a good job, and hopefully continues to do that domestically. One nice thing about this party was that every time I gave someone one of the Tocsin CDs they thanked me and or shook my hand. Nice little bit of respect that you don.t really see that often. Lots of props to Warchild, always a pleasure to hang out with him, but best off all thanks to him, there were over 100 girls walking around with Black Monolith Stickers on there chests or butts! ;) Overall it wasn.t a bad experience, maybe because I got to avoid all the other music that would have bored me, since I do not like house and most trance. But I got to meet a few people like meatsock and others finally. Plus I have to say there is nothing more of a turn on then cute girls dancing to hardcore, just something delctious about that. So, I had fun thanks to friends, and for a short bit some decent music. If you haven.t checked out Tocsin yet, I highly suggest that you do. Not only are they on 3 different labels, but they are one of the few shows that will entertain you beyond a few guys just pushing buttons. And remember t-bone it's all about pinching the loaf! -- Skinner http://zendiagrams.com http://blackmonolith.com http://industrialstrengthrecords.com From eastcoastproductions@hotmail.com Mon Jul 28 21:35:24 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 72297 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2003 21:35:24 -0000 Received: from bay1-f99.bay1.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (65.54.245.99) by taz3.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Jul 2003 21:35:24 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 14:35:21 -0700 Received: from 24.198.85.106 by by1fd.bay1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 21:35:21 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.198.85.106] X-Originating-Email: [eastcoastproductions@hotmail.com] Reply-To: eastcoastunderground@hotmail.com From: "ecu ....." To: ne-raves@hyperreal.org, fresnoraves@hyperreal.org, nyc-raves@hyperreal.org, sacraves@hyperreal.org, nw-raves@hyperreal.org, sfraves@hyperreal.org, dcraves@hyperreal.org, pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org, mtn-raves@hyperreal.org Bcc: Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 17:35:21 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Jul 2003 21:35:21.0452 (UTC) FILETIME=[25AFAAC0:01C35550] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: GEAR for sale... GEAR FOR SALE (MORE DETAILS BELOW): 1. AKAI MPC-2000 2. Vintage Synth F/S 3. EFX Rack F/S 1. I have a Akai MPC-2000 midi workstation/sampler for sale. It is in great condition, I just dont really use it anymore. I'm willing to let it go for about 650 but it's negotiable.   2. I have a vintage Roland Mks-50 synth rack module that I am selling. It's in mint condition. This is basically the rack of the Juno-2, the king of classic analog rave sounds. I'll let go of it for about 150, but it's all negotialble.   3. Digitech Studio Quad V2 It's in GREAT condition. This effects module is fantastic! It allows 4 inputs and 4 "wet" outputs. Crisp digital processing. I will let go of it for about 175 but that's negotiable. IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN MORE INFO OR WOULD LIKE TO SEE PICTURES, PLEASE EMAIL PRIVATELY: kupatroopa@msn.com OR eastcoastunderground@hotmail.com. Thanks! ~Elissa & Matt "eastcoast underground" Event Production & Artist Management eastcoastunderground@hotmail.com Bookings: 207.329.1581 & Fax: 413.751.2313 AOL/AIM: "eastcoastundgrnd" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Available for booking: KUPA TROOPA - Drum & Bass  **Original Tracks** JAY ZAWODNY - House; Trance; Progressive DJ GRAY - Jungle ZACK JELLIS - Ragga/Jungle; Drum & Bass Please contact for mixes, original tracks, video clips, and other promo material!! Email eastcoastunderground@hotmail.com with requests to join: "ecu Events Mailing List" "Northeast Promoters List" "Scene Info List" (news, records, equipment, and more) _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From jasper@hyperreal.org Mon Jul 28 22:11:44 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 90618 invoked by uid 1046); 28 Jul 2003 22:11:44 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 28 Jul 2003 22:11:44 -0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 15:11:44 -0700 (PDT) From: jasper To: SoulChampion cc: L08 In-Reply-To: <20030728145844.69672.qmail@web11808.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20030728150012.C84317@taz3.hyperreal.org> References: <20030728145844.69672.qmail@web11808.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] LIVELY RETURNS... THIS WEDNESDAY 07.30.03 (BOSTON) > > Am I so out of it that all these new genres have > > escaped my notice? What the heck is 4x4 and 8Bar? > > Are these sub-sub-sub-ad infinitum genres really > > necesssary? > > They're not genres. They are all just different > styles of Garage. I'm kind of just kidding and busting your balls. But if it's a garage night why not just say "kick ass underground garage night?" > Well, that's why we are representing all different > flavors of Garage together, to offer variety within > the genre "Underground Garage" so that you don't have > to listen to the same tune all night. There is an > amazing range of different sounds within the blanket > term "Garage" we just want to shed a little light on > some of the differnt varieties and flavors. Are you sure even the people who like garage like myself understand what all those sub-genres mean? Do people even have nights that are really mixed? I'm mean there's this in Boston and there are Tronic Treatment (techno) and Konkrete Jungle (jungle) in NYC. But I can't remember the last time I saw a party that just advertised, "We have good electronic dance music." Hmm... gives me an idea. There's an unfilled niche. Does it really piss purists off so much to listen to a little of something else? Jasper From skinner@hyperreal.org Mon Jul 28 22:23:31 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 97469 invoked by uid 1126); 28 Jul 2003 22:23:31 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 28 Jul 2003 22:23:31 -0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 15:23:31 -0700 (PDT) From: skinner To: jasper cc: L08 In-Reply-To: <20030728150012.C84317@taz3.hyperreal.org> Message-ID: <20030728152107.U95341@taz3.hyperreal.org> References: <20030728145844.69672.qmail@web11808.mail.yahoo.com> <20030728150012.C84317@taz3.hyperreal.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] LIVELY RETURNS... THIS WEDNESDAY 07.30.03 (BOSTON) On Mon, 28 Jul 2003, jasper wrote: ->Do people even have nights that are really mixed? Black Monolith Records. Terminal Torture parties be them seasonal, are a mix up. Many lineups might not be that dramatic, but most cases its DnB + hardcore + techno, sometimes we even gets some trance in there. Granted they lean more towards the harder edge stuff in all genres we never concentrated on that. But at the same time we also scare away people because we don't do "genre" only events. -- Skinner http://zendiagrams.com http://blackmonolith.com http://industrialstrengthrecords.com From drew_xxx_84@hotmail.com Tue Jul 29 01:07:23 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 76236 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2003 01:07:23 -0000 Received: from law10-f9.law10.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (64.4.15.9) by taz3.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Jul 2003 01:07:23 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 18:07:19 -0700 Received: from 24.62.240.175 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 01:07:19 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.62.240.175] X-Originating-Email: [drew_xxx_84@hotmail.com] From: "b o 0" To: skinner@hyperreal.org, ne-raves@hyperreal.org Bcc: Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 21:07:19 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jul 2003 01:07:19.0675 (UTC) FILETIME=[C2567CB0:01C3556D] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] blazin review the first thing i have to say is this: Hiding the fans = BAD IDEA i thought i was going to DIE. Lately at the asylum it's been rather cool in there (on a few occaisions its been cool enough in there that if i sat down i thought i'd need a sweatshirt... especialy twards the end of the night) But not at blazin! it was definately "Blazin hot". har har har... But i digress I did have a good time though. Music was pretty decent, i enjoyed what i heard. I'm not exactly sure what time i GOT there, so i never really knew what DJ was on at any one time unless i asked him or something, but that's ok. If a dj is good i shouldn't have to know what his name is. I spent a lot of time in the side room. A lot of the time was spent wondering jeff or chris don't book me there, because i'm at least AS good as some of those DJs if not better. Don't get me wrong, its not like they were horrible djs or anything, but... come now. I did see one dj in the side room that i thought was pretty good.. good luck getting his name off me because I DONT KNOW IT!!! But that's ok too. a little off subject, but you know something that's really really funny that i never noticed before? On the DJM 500s at the asylum, right above the cross fader it says in big ass letters "CROSS FADER". -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- -Bo0 aim:lilraver1984 chemicalkid8 -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- >From: skinner >To: ne-raves@hyperreal.org >Subject: [ne-raves] blazin review >Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 10:29:30 -0700 (PDT) > > >I went to Blazin this weekend in Mass. The location Asylum really >needs to invest in this neat invention that came into be around 1950.s >called powered ventilation. It was just way to hot to deal with, thank >god for having a Air-conditioned Hotel Room. Most of the parties. >music I could give a rat.s ass about and ignored. My main goal for >going was to support BMR artists and Lenny Dee. > >Tocsin.s set was amazing and I am very proud of my friends and BMR >performers. There show musically was great, and visually was amazing. >But what made this show the best was the fact that because of a great >visual show integrated into there performance, they managed to keep >the room filled with an audience who normally would not get exposed to >this kind of music. This alone has done a lot more for the hardcore >scene then parties that have been going on and ONLY cater to hardcore >kids who already know about the music. The visuals were so >entertaining people were video taping; taking pictures but most of all >cheering ever time certain video clips were worked in. The people were >entertained and enjoying themselves. Musically they did very well >keeping the set flowing without any real breaks until the end where >they were forced to cut there set some. Over all I think this was a >great show for them. It also allowed for over 100 CDs to be handed out >to the audience so they can get even more exposure to hardcore techno. > >Lenny Dee played one amazing set. It.s been a while since he was this >solid domestically. >But he was point on. He was slamming some amazing toons back to back >with a great fluidity. I had to trainspot a few of the tracks because >they were very tasty and crunchy hardcore techno, something along my >flavor of playing. Unfortunately I had to leave before he was done >because I am old and get tired fast. But he was playing an extended >set because another DJ didn.t show up. The room for Lenny was filled >and kids were dancing non stop. He did a good job, and hopefully >continues to do that domestically. > >One nice thing about this party was that every time I gave someone one >of the Tocsin CDs they thanked me and or shook my hand. Nice little >bit of respect that you don.t really see that often. Lots of props to >Warchild, always a pleasure to hang out with him, but best off all >thanks to him, there were over 100 girls walking around with Black >Monolith Stickers on there chests or butts! ;) > >Overall it wasn.t a bad experience, maybe because I got to avoid all >the other music that would have bored me, since I do not like house >and most trance. But I got to meet a few people like meatsock and >others finally. Plus I have to say there is nothing more of a turn on >then cute girls dancing to hardcore, just something delctious about >that. So, I had fun thanks to friends, and for a short bit some decent >music. > >If you haven.t checked out Tocsin yet, I highly suggest that you do. >Not only are they on 3 different labels, but they are one of the few >shows that will entertain you beyond a few guys just pushing buttons. > >And remember t-bone it's all about pinching the loaf! > > >-- >Skinner >http://zendiagrams.com >http://blackmonolith.com >http://industrialstrengthrecords.com > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org > _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From nine2fiveproductions@yahoo.com Tue Jul 29 02:24:26 2003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ne-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 95945 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2003 02:24:26 -0000 Received: from web20203.mail.yahoo.com (216.136.226.58) by taz3.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Jul 2003 02:24:26 -0000 Message-ID: <20030729022422.91918.qmail@web20203.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [152.163.252.66] by web20203.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 19:24:22 PDT Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 19:24:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Nine2Five Crew To: ne-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-719104706-1059445462=:90224" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [ne-raves] blazin review --0-719104706-1059445462=:90224 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii yeah it was waaaaaaaay too hot, but i guess i was used to it.....i found one fan so i kept goin back to it all night... the party was dope...the music was pretty good..i dont like x-dream or really that genre at all anymore, so i wasnt too pleased with that..bam bam seemed to be on forever..i only think thats cuz i was waiting for dj dan.....i thought i was gonna fall over when dan came on....he was sick....so much sicker than i could have imagined...ive never seen him. hes been my fav dej forever and i have tons of his records....ive never even heard one of those tracks that he played....i also got the greatest pictures of him...i was standing like a foot away from him..cannot wait to develop them.... other than that, i didnt get to see too many of the regulars..i dont know where the hell everyone was...the place was pretty dead all night...oh well, the kids that were there, were really chill...and besides, me and my boy colin danced around the main room like fukin monkeys all night without hittin one person! too bad chris lost so much money on this party....people in new england really need to come together and help save columns...they throw some of the best parties in new england rave history and they are a BIGGGGGGGGGGGGGG staple in our new england rave community....so many people always say fuk the asylum, but they really dont know what they are talking about...i have been to a million parties there, and i have had the best time ever almost 100 percent of the time.....everyone has bad party experiences..it goes with what we all are part of....but too many people are paying too much attention to what everyone else is doing and not what they should be paying attention to....thats it outta me...peace -Matty Rolland- b o 0 wrote: the first thing i have to say is this: Hiding the fans = BAD IDEA i thought i was going to DIE. Lately at the asylum it's been rather cool in there (on a few occaisions its been cool enough in there that if i sat down i thought i'd need a sweatshirt... especialy twards the end of the night) But not at blazin! it was definately "Blazin hot". har har har... But i digress I did have a good time though. Music was pretty decent, i enjoyed what i heard. I'm not exactly sure what time i GOT there, so i never really knew what DJ was on at any one time unless i asked him or something, but that's ok. If a dj is good i shouldn't have to know what his name is. I spent a lot of time in the side room. A lot of the time was spent wondering jeff or chris don't book me there, because i'm at least AS good as some of those DJs if not better. Don't get me wrong, its not like they were horrible djs or anything, but... come now. I did see one dj in the side room that i thought was pretty good.. good luck getting his name off me because I DONT KNOW IT!!! But that's ok too. a little off subject, but you know something that's really really funny that i never noticed before? On the DJM 500s at the asylum, right above the cross fader it says in big ass letters "CROSS FADER". -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- -Bo0 aim:lilraver1984 chemicalkid8 -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- >From: skinner >To: ne-raves@hyperreal.org >Subject: [ne-raves] blazin review >Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 10:29:30 -0700 (PDT) > > >I went to Blazin this weekend in Mass. The location Asylum really >needs to invest in this neat invention that came into be around 1950.s >called powered ventilation. It was just way to hot to deal with, thank >god for having a Air-conditioned Hotel Room. Most of the parties. >music I could give a rat.s ass about and ignored. My main goal for >going was to support BMR artists and Lenny Dee. > >Tocsin.s set was amazing and I am very proud of my friends and BMR >performers. There show musically was great, and visually was amazing. >But what made this show the best was the fact that because of a great >visual show integrated into there performance, they managed to keep >the room filled with an audience who normally would not get exposed to >this kind of music. This alone has done a lot more for the hardcore >scene then parties that have been going on and ONLY cater to hardcore >kids who already know about the music. The visuals were so >entertaining people were video taping; taking pictures but most of all >cheering ever time certain video clips were worked in. The people were >entertained and enjoying themselves. Musically they did very well >keeping the set flowing without any real breaks until the end where >they were forced to cut there set some. Over all I think this was a >great show for them. It also allowed for over 100 CDs to be handed out >to the audience so they can get even more exposure to hardcore techno. > >Lenny Dee played one amazing set. It.s been a while since he was this >solid domestically. >But he was point on. He was slamming some amazing toons back to back >with a great fluidity. I had to trainspot a few of the tracks because >they were very tasty and crunchy hardcore techno, something along my >flavor of playing. Unfortunately I had to leave before he was done >because I am old and get tired fast. But he was playing an extended >set because another DJ didn.t show up. The room for Lenny was filled >and kids were dancing non stop. He did a good job, and hopefully >continues to do that domestically. > >One nice thing about this party was that every time I gave someone one >of the Tocsin CDs they thanked me and or shook my hand. Nice little >bit of respect that you don.t really see that often. Lots of props to >Warchild, always a pleasure to hang out with him, but best off all >thanks to him, there were over 100 girls walking around with Black >Monolith Stickers on there chests or butts! ;) > >Overall it wasn.t a bad experience, maybe because I got to avoid all >the other music that would have bored me, since I do not like house >and most trance. But I got to meet a few people like meatsock and >others finally. Plus I have to say there is nothing more of a turn on >then cute girls dancing to hardcore, just something delctious about >that. So, I had fun thanks to friends, and for a short bit some decent >music. > >If you haven.t checked out Tocsin yet, I highly suggest that you do. >Not only are they on 3 different labels, but they are one of the few >shows that will entertain you beyond a few guys just pushing buttons. > >And remember t-bone it's all about pinching the loaf! > > >-- >Skinner >http://zendiagrams.com >http://blackmonolith.com >http://industrialstrengthrecords.com > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: ne-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: ne-raves-help@hyperreal.org > _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. 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THIS WEDNESDAY 07.30.03 (BOSTON) > I'm kind of just kidding and busting your balls. > But if it's a garage night why not just say > "kick ass underground garage night?" Well, that too but mostly because the music has been promoted so at many different times for short spans under those different terms without any real connection. Like back in 96-97 "Speed Garage" was all hyped and then in 2000 "2-Step" was in all the press but most people don't even realize that those two things are really just different variations of the same thing. > Are you sure even the people who like garage > like myself understand what all those sub-genres > mean? No, and they don't have to but a lot of people have heard one or a couple of the terms and have no idea that they are all related and are all Garage. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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