From pb-cle-raves-return-90343-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 01 07:18:03 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 81176 invoked by uid 1162); 1 Oct 2007 07:18:03 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: X-list-unsubscribe: X-list-post: X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 81140 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2007 07:18:02 -0000 From: XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 03:17:54 EDT To: XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com, pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org, Stsang3169@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1191223074" X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 5001 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} Communications between the mentally ill -------------------------------1191223074 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Me and my little brother are the unknown legends of the rave circuit. Our first hit "tomohawk missle" was featured in the Bum Fight's soundtrack and was to be pressed on 7" platinum acetate before that dark tare Krust stole it from us and released it as warhead. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -------------------------------1191223074 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Me and my little brother are the unknown legends of the rave circuit. O= ur=20 first hit "tomohawk missle" was featured in the Bum Fight's soundtrack and w= as=20 to be pressed on 7" platinum acetate before that dark tare Krust stole it fr= om=20 us and released it as warhead.



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= -------------------------------1191223074-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90344-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 01 07:34:34 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 89181 invoked by uid 1162); 1 Oct 2007 07:34:33 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: X-list-unsubscribe: X-list-post: X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 89166 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2007 07:34:33 -0000 From: Gatsby9@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 03:34:25 EDT To: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1191224065" X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5359 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} Communications between the mentally ill -------------------------------1191224065 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/1/2007 3:18:30 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com writes: unknown legends of the rave circuit Oh, I think I hear a PARTY name... ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -------------------------------1191224065 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 10/1/2007 3:18:30 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,=20 XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>unknown=20 legends of the rave circuit
Oh, I think I hear a PARTY name...



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(21:27:19) Stsang3169: where r u?
(21:27:26) leigh412dnb: in bed
(21:27:31) leigh412dnb: where are you?
(21:27:36) Stsang3169: at home
(21:27:43) leigh412dnb: why?
(21:27:56) Stsang3169: sabbath day, day of rest
(21:28:16) Stsang3169: not even supposed to work on sunday
(21:28:23) leigh412dnb: its monday
(21:28:46) Stsang3169: thats cuz yur 3 hrs ahead where yur at
(21:28:49) Stsang3169: i'm in cali
(21:29:25) Stsang3169: i'm thinkin people will stay in hotels in SF tonight
(21:29:26) leigh412dnb: moooooondaaaaaaay
(21:29:37) Stsang3169: it's 9:30pm here in cali
(21:29:51) leigh412dnb: so did you check out your man boobs yet?
(21:29:56) Stsang3169: no
(21:30:01) Stsang3169: why r u so weird?
(21:30:17) leigh412dnb: imma start calling you stevie moobs.
(21:30:34) Stsang3169: that doesnt make sense
(21:31:06) Stsang3169: for KSEE NBC it'll be just like another summer concert in the park
(21:31:27) leigh412dnb: huh? im perfectly normal
(21:31:29) Stsang3169: since I Ok'ed video security a bit ago
(21:31:41) Stsang3169: plus NBC broadcasts the Olympics
(21:32:03) Stsang3169: i'm promoting the next one since it's in China
(21:32:29) Stsang3169: thus the coca cola passing of the olympics torch post
(21:33:55) leigh412dnb: word stevie moobs... wooooord
(21:34:10) Stsang3169: do i need to find peeps a place to stay tonight?
(21:34:31) Stsang3169: this is serious
(21:34:42) leigh412dnb: so you can torture their souls?
(21:34:56) Stsang3169: i'm guessin there are prolly 50K wanderin party peeps out there after LF07
(21:49:04) Stsang3169: half found "friends" for place to stay
(21:49:13) Stsang3169: leaves 25K
(21:49:22) Stsang3169: starbucks
(21:49:36) Stsang3169: and thrn hotel in SF
(21:50:19) Stsang3169: or if they need a less expensive place to stay there are less expensive motels round here
(21:50:29) Stsang3169: i've got 2 extra rooms here
(21:50:41) Stsang3169: and the couches
(21:51:46) Stsang3169: there's also the dominion villas down the road
(21:51:55) Stsang3169: if they want to stay longer
(21:52:28) Stsang3169: which is upper end townhouse style living
(21:53:35) Stsang3169: some peeps from russia and some peeps from germany may be stayin until oktoberfest 23 here in cali valley
(21:53:49) Stsang3169: w/ the bmx'ers at coombs ranch
(21:54:07) Stsang3169: and then voodoo in new orleans w/ 100 bands
(21:54:59) Stsang3169: i was merely thinking about a desert after party like john and sandra used to do in AZ and they did that to me
(21:55:18) Stsang3169: i'm sure it was a jealous girl
(21:55:39) Stsang3169: it was very weird
(21:55:50) Stsang3169: nothing i wouldve authorized
(22:05:48) Stsang3169: but no i dont think it was interpol
(22:05:52) Stsang3169: you're cleared
(22:06:03) Stsang3169: stop talking about my boobs
(22:06:09) Stsang3169: were u horny or something/
(22:06:10) Stsang3169: ?
(22:06:16) Stsang3169: whats wrong w/ u?
(22:06:40) Stsang3169: that after party for nocturnal was only in my head it was completely unofficial
(22:06:53) Stsang3169: it was old ways
(22:07:02) Stsang3169: desert parties before burning man
(22:07:28) Stsang3169: which is why i talked an event at the bottom of meteor crater w/ troutpoop before
(22:07:34) Stsang3169: crazy virgin venues
(22:07:39) Stsang3169: how it was done before
(22:08:34) Stsang3169: what did u do last night?
(01:19:55) Stsang3169: i must concur jungalien is insane

steve t 3169
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primary owner US federal government
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http://myspace.com/rapture3169
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cell: 559.940.5207 ------=_Part_11482_7448659.1191237580631-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90346-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 01 11:25:44 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24370 invoked by uid 1162); 1 Oct 2007 11:25:43 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: X-list-unsubscribe: X-list-post: X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24349 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2007 11:25:42 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=7gLy7IefVosTdyQnMSK4FULePOBMMG326dOH0qxWvNQ=; b=anacdSNycfUvEdKst/T7gBgsYEm9O6qRvl4DlWBTf9M70hFc78wMpHy43wW21O7Gr61ZcweplxbNysBb6U1hCub31u/emg+DJsx6xrI0v2uyqS7U8aKGY6WXQi2RT67nymD0SS/a8fODHinio+DNwfT5Ud4mAwvGGV20zcGfnZM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=jy6CPSCgWjRLqWsMCcAOajlG0gMB+66JDTzic27R2f/EgmTlRyU9oyN87/8tG0uPJF8E5LZgPFGK6F8tDQZNbyM5oXUow9TOdfcWDLg592vPi0jPOOdDJ0hsUCluI6HRf+XS9XmLfGx4D/89wCCbgzYQnjbr92iS2qKZfNEdjDc= Message-ID: <68bdb9980710010425n2422197r1667154ec2f886b7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 04:25:40 -0700 From: "notanotherteenmovie 3169" To: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_11516_821626.1191237940309" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: {pb-cle} Madonna and Beastie Boys Nominated Into Rock & Roll Hall of Fame... ------=_Part_11516_821626.1191237940309 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline *from http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/Music/09/28/music.rockhall.ap/index.html * *NEW YORK (AP) * -- Here's something Madonna can really celebrate: a nomination to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. [image: Madonna]Madonna is one of nine nominees in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame's latest class. Madge joins heartland rocker John Mellencamp, the puckish rappers Beastie Boys and premier dance acts Donna Summer and Chic among the nine nominees for the hall. The five leading vote-getters will be inducted in the annual ceremony March 10, 2008, at New York's Waldorf Astoria Hotel. The other nominees are rap pioneer Afrika Bambaataa, literate songwriter Leonard Cohen, the original British Invasion combo The Dave Clark Five and surf rock instrumentalists The Ventures. The nominations illustrate how far the Hall of Fame has stretched its definition of rock 'n' roll to incorporate a variety of musical styles. It's certainly the case with Madonna, the Detroit-area native who burst out of New York dance clubs in the early 1980s with "Holiday" and soon became a pop culture icon. She scored 17 Top Ten hits in the 1980s alone and is due to put out an album next year, working with the likes of Timbaland and Justin Timberlake. The Beastie Boys molded punk rock and rap into the goofy hit "(You Gotta) Fight For Your Right to Party." They became critical favorites and are still together, releasing an instrumental album this year. Indiana's own Mellencamp can fill a barrel with rock hits like "Hurts So Good," "Pink Houses" and "R.O.C.K. in the USA." Like Chic and the Dave Clark Five, he's been nominated before without getting into the hall. Some 500 musicians, industry professionals and journalists vote on the inductions. E-mail to a friend [image: E-mail to a friend] --- *Rock and Roll Hall of Fame was designed by chinese architect I.M. Pei,* *who was also behind the design of the Christian Science building in * *Boston. see: http://www.greatbuildings.com/architects/I._M._Pei.html* *the original WTC was designed by japanese architect minoru yamasaki, * *see: http://www.greatbuildings.com/buildings/World_Trade_Center.html * *for my new WTC design, Twain Towers for NYC, NY, check:* * *http://adameve3169.orfay.com/?month=02&year=2007 *obviously the real reason i acquired $1.4 trillion dollars from japanese and chinese investors in US treasury bonds aside from bailing america out of a trillion dollar federal defecit caused by war mongering dark tares, was for the reconstruction of the WTC with my Twain Towers plan. unfortunately, of the $400 billion, bush spent $200 billion on katrina, the war on afghanistan, and the war on iraq. this year, bush spent $124 billion on ira and $48 billion on dem's global warming agenda. this left $28 billion expendable cash left in the Federal Reserve. And as i said, once that is gone, America is bankrupt! most sincerely, steve t 3169, international intelligence director primary owner US federal government* ------=_Part_11516_821626.1191237940309 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
NEW YORK (AP) -- Here's something Madonna can really celebrate: a nomination to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
Madonna
Madonna is one of nine nominees in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame's latest class.
Madge joins heartland rocker John Mellencamp, the puckish rappers Beastie Boys and premier dance acts Donna Summer and Chic among the nine nominees for the hall. The five leading vote-getters will be inducted in the annual ceremony March 10, 2008, at New York's Waldorf Astoria Hotel.
The other nominees are rap pioneer Afrika Bambaataa , literate songwriter Leonard Cohen, the original British Invasion combo The Dave Clark Five and surf rock instrumentalists The Ventures.
The nominations illustrate how far the Hall of Fame has stretched its definition of rock 'n' roll to incorporate a variety of musical styles.
It's certainly the case with Madonna, the Detroit-area native who burst out of New York dance clubs in the early 1980s with "Holiday" and soon became a pop culture icon. She scored 17 Top Ten hits in the 1980s alone and is due to put out an album next year, working with the likes of Timbaland and Justin Timberlake.
The Beastie Boys molded punk rock and rap into the goofy hit "(You Gotta) Fight For Your Right to Party." They became critical favorites and are still together, releasing an instrumental album this year.
Indiana's own Mellencamp can fill a barrel with rock hits like "Hurts So Good," "Pink Houses" and "R.O.C.K. in the USA." Like Chic and the Dave Clark Five, he's been nominated before without getting into the hall.
Some 500 musicians, industry professionals and journalists vote on the inductions. E-mail to a friend E-mail to a friend
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Rock and Roll Hall of Fame was designed by chinese architect I.M. Pei,
who was also behind the design of the Christian Science building in
the original WTC was designed by japanese architect minoru yamasaki,
for my new WTC design, Twain Towers for NYC, NY, check:
obviously the real reason i acquired $1.4 trillion dollars from japanese

and chinese investors in US treasury bonds aside from bailing america

out of a trillion dollar federal defecit caused by war mongering dark tares,

was for the reconstruction of the WTC with my Twain Towers plan.

unfortunately, of the $400 billion,  bush spent $200 billion on katrina,

the war on afghanistan, and the war on iraq.  this year, bush spent

$124 billion on ira and $48 billion on dem's global warming agenda.

this left $28 billion expendable cash left in the Federal Reserve.  And

as i said, once that is gone, America is bankrupt!


most sincerely,
steve t 3169,
international intelligence director
primary owner US federal government ------=_Part_11516_821626.1191237940309-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90347-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 01 11:29:08 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27377 invoked by uid 1162); 1 Oct 2007 11:29:08 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: X-list-unsubscribe: X-list-post: X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27359 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2007 11:29:07 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=Y2jLKtGakllXZRHaj3XUhMUeGOnuRRZ+rsYZN1zfhC0=; b=uM9Z9hQ6GIE0LjTEJbLvASlRHcgzgmSo3KwzY8WCtZAMHmgV1kArtXRZ8n9tCR6Qkb/wuc64cClGxlK+/FdKrtUYPwM7P/SeFpuU0sOcQzcJjOMZ5231A/jDy5eEmAQ4ibdTBEWcLGa6VGildn7ISDoOe10Rtq7dtamZD3ILTMQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=MAQrvrgaQYvC9Q02StmyMRbqbjR272RjjYMMXuutNcllNu3lLmAOVwAUJMEaRpVD9/Ud/Nrj281ImjJa8zxw3aObzLgC2j1Im+LizuapGua5/lfS1qQ0sRoXTHgfZQuiVTkkHIDkx3NU33fi61ClxhjcIynndZGN4fLnNUGKs/w= Message-ID: <68bdb9980710010429w21127753hfe6ddb56dd678c93@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 04:29:05 -0700 From: "notanotherteenmovie 3169" To: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_11526_4255474.1191238145954" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: {pb-cle} tex oktoberfest is weenistock 007 this year in lone star state... ------=_Part_11526_4255474.1191238145954 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline *Goodguys Lone Star Nationals October 5th 2007 Texas Motor Speedway Fort Worth, Texas* *Corpus Christi Heat Wave October 6th, 7th 2007 Corpus Christi, Texas* *Weeniestock Ocober 13th 2007 Bagworks Customs Houston, Texas* *SEMA 07 October 30th, 31st, November 1st, 2nd 2007 Las Vegas, Nevada* *Dryoff presented by Pevents November 10th, 11th 2007 Texas Ski Ransh New Braunfels, Texas* *Resolutions presented by Sunset club December 28th, 29th, 30th 2007 Colorado River Fairgrounds Blythe, California* * Gator Drag May 2nd, 3rd, 4th 2008 Fair Park, Conroe, Texas* steve t 3169 international intelligence director primary owner US federal government http://myspace.com/stevet3169 http://myspace.com/rapture3169 http://adameve3169.orfay.com cell: 559.940.5207 ------=_Part_11526_4255474.1191238145954 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Goodguys Lone Star Nationals October 5th 2007 Texas Motor Speedway Fort Worth, Texas
Corpus Christi Heat Wave October 6th, 7th 2007 Corpus Christi, Texas
Weeniestock Ocober 13th 2007 Bagworks Customs Houston, Texas
SEMA 07 October 30th, 31st, November 1st, 2nd 2007 Las Vegas, Nevada
Dryoff presented by Pevents November 10th, 11th 2007 Texas Ski Ransh New Braunfels, Texas
Resolutions presented by Sunset club December 28th, 29th, 30th 2007 Colorado River Fairgrounds Blythe, California
Gator Drag May 2nd, 3rd, 4th 2008 Fair Park, Conroe, Texas


steve t 3169
international intelligence director
primary owner US federal government
http://myspace.com/stevet3169
http://myspace.com/rapture3169
http://adameve3169.orfay.com
cell: 559.940.5207 ------=_Part_11526_4255474.1191238145954-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90348-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 01 11:33:17 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 30497 invoked by uid 1162); 1 Oct 2007 11:33:17 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: X-list-unsubscribe: X-list-post: X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 30464 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2007 11:33:16 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=iMFrgQDIgNLYR29Mlmt4zVdo/8sLsEMZrN7lyTUtujc=; b=GXaCQJ/0B/UblwwEtIGmzhaT+S6/Lw0j+FF1u/ZyzyOQDGrDtNLA3z7B6u4jHccnDqf8XU6ixMY6pV/ijEnjVpwqXl/Bqrf8La2sZalQ1y3jfvGX/nXnOzmBzk5b5ReIi4nJXC28zoWzneTumQuGYja3KMeqRI+WO1ggVV9dFTM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=NMJBiKg3rRlN4FR4p0RaiA/NchVZiIf++p9Xo6hHsOMNO9SEeUT2dyhsGhrHFjLIRap8UlIChQm5XsGrmtnlKmLV4C7JyzISPLWEepT8jicS7ka5B5jn9hkntgUBzaWlgJrd01hpMVZaB0dgFEmIVL7VJ1UtncovH10Wec679l4= Message-ID: <68bdb9980710010433p18beefd2k8b00340fbbdae61@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 04:33:14 -0700 From: "notanotherteenmovie 3169" To: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_11552_24233967.1191238394454" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: {pb-cle} not sure if crackheadalien posted it yet, but here's info for the after after parties for love fest 07... ------=_Part_11552_24233967.1191238394454 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline live video feed for love fest 2007 in SF, CA... http://justin.tv/lovefest *steve t intell director * wrote: CLICK HERE TO CONTINUE TO SPUNDAE.COM saturday, september 29th spundae and skills present... THE 3rd ANNUAL OFFICIAL LOVEFEST AFTERPARTY at the BILL GRAHAM CIVIC AUDITORIUM 9:00pm - 4:00am CLICK HERE TO WATCH LIVE STREAM! FLOAT SETUP (9/28) PARADE + FESTIVAL + AFTERPARTY (9/29) VISIT THE LOVEFEST 07 AFTERPARTY WEBSITE! *THREE AREAS OF MUSIC* Trance, House, and Breaks featuring (area 1): SASHA :: FERRY CORSTEN GABRIEL & DRESDEN :: JOHN 00 FLEMING ROBERT NICKSON :: DEEP VOICES ft. DYLOOT area 2: DJ DAN :: DONALD GLAUDE RICHARD VISSION :: EDDIE HALLIWELL JOHN BEAVER :: DJ HIL area 3: SV2 w/ SANDRA COLLINS & VELLO VIRKHAUS DJ ICEY :: DJ RAP CHRIS FORTIER :: THREE ALAIN OCTAVO WHERE BILL GRAHAM CIVIC AUDITORIUM 99 Grove Street San Francisco, CA 94102 Map/Directions BUY TICKETS Online Ticket Sales On Sale NOW! Outlet Tickets sales begin August 4th Pre-Sale Prices: $45 / $55 / $65 Tickets will be $75 at the door. ONLINE // PHONE GrooveTickets 877.714.1662 SAN FRANCISCO Anubis Warpus 1525 Haight Street 415.431.2218 BERKELY Skills DJ Workshop 2566-A Telegraph Ave 510.704.9876 SACRAMENTO Channelz 2371 Arden Way 916.641.8808 VIP TICKETS Two VIP packages: General &Premium General VIP// $125 TWO VIP Stages, each with four corner sound and own full bar :: VIP Laminat= e :: Two Drink Tickets :: Assorted Snacks:: Limited to 500 Tickets Premium VIP// $2,000 8 VIP Tickets :: Private area with plush couches overlooking the main stage= . :: Can invite two additional guests to your private seating area:: 32 Drink Tickets :: Snack Bar :: 8 VIP Laminates :: :: Full Access to General VIP Stages.> UPGRADE and become a VIP!! Bought a general admission ticket and decided that VIP was the way to go? Don't want to be left behind while your friends are living it up VIP STYLE? Perhaps just changed your mind? NO PROBLEM! Just go to SKILLS DJ WORSKHOP in Berkeley with your ticket in hand and pay the difference. VIP PRICE minus TICKET PURCHASE PRICE =3D what you need to pay to upgrade. Skills DJ Workshop 2566-A Telegraph Ave. Berkeley, CA 94704 510.704.9876 TUESDAY =96 SUNDAY: 1PM =96 7PM CLOSED ON MONDAY other info: =95All Responsible adults 18 and over are welcome! =95Full food concessions. *Vegetarian friendly!* =9512 Full bars for the 21 and up! =95Multiple entrances with fast and friendly security! =95Outside Smoking area =95Plenty of CLEAN in house restroom facilities! =95Lots of fun give-a-ways! =95Safe & Secure parking lots near by! CLICK HERE TO CONTINUE TO SPUNDAE.COM *steve t intell director * wrote: tel aviv love parade video... http://uncutvideo.aol.com/videos/a3c7d765a87fa8a469ca3b04cd1eea65 whoever hi-jacked the mini video cam i was supposed to get a month ago from eliteshoppingnetwork.com better post videos of love fest 2007 SF, CA for me! *steve t intell director * wrote: love fest SF 2007 site= : http://sflovefest.org if u want to go, call me ASAP at 559.940.5207 map to billy graham civic auditorium... http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?address=3D99+Grove+Street&zipcode=3D94= 102 floor plan for billy graham civic auditorium... http://indux.com/map/1066_billgrahamcivicauditorium_endstage_tn.jpg *steve t intell director * wrote: ok, i think troutpoop or one of the pb-cle crack heads like junglalien@aol.com (part of the same dark tares who had identity thefted me before for bogus charges on my credit cards and impossible crimes and money laundering schemes) hacked the love fest site and turned it into a porn site, for love fest 200= 7 info, check: http://sflovefest.org *steve t intell director * wrote: From: steve t intell director Subject: booking for cali oktoberfest oct 23 in cali valley To: olga@tatu.ru need to know if tatu can play at love fest 2007 after party on 09.29.07 (lovefest.org) or cali valley oktoberfest on oct 23. for details, check: http://www.lemooreohvclub.com/news.php?subaction=3Dshowfull&id=3D1126237518= &archive=3D&start_from=3D&ucat=3D3& need to know ASAP reply to this e-mail or call: 559.940.5207 . ok, if the billy graham civic auditorium is too packed for tatu there is a local event here in fresno, california in the valley that may have room... *Posted By: *The Crossroads *Hosted By::* THE CROSSROADS AND WIZARD ENTERPRISES e-mail *When:* Saturday Sep 29, 2007 at 11:00 AM *Where:: * WOODWARD PARK FRESNO, CA 93650 United States View Map ** 2007 marks the 40th anniversary of the "Summer of Love". 1967 was a time where our country was in turmoil over the war in Vietnam, the Beatles were taking a backseat to Hendrix and Joplin as the music moved from a folk/rock style to psychedelic/anti-war rock. It was truly, one of the very few times in our history where music helped change a generation. Monterey Pop was billed as the first major outdoor music festival of it's kind. It was followed by 500,000 strong attendance o= n a country farm, in upstate New York, billed as Woodstock. In commemoration of this great period in musical history, The Crossroads, Wizard Enterprises, Heineken, and Famous Dave's is proud to present: "Fresno's 40th Anniversary of the Summer of Love" Headlining the show will be Summer of Love alumnus Big Brother and the Holding Company. We've invited them back after a nearly sold out Crossroads show earlier this year. The original members of the band will bring with them the very talented Kathy Richardson. If you missed the last show.....don't miss this one as Ms. Richardson will give every Joplin fan i= n attendance a reason to celebrate. Cathy and the band mesmerized 300 Crossroad fans with a chilling recreation of Janis at her best. If there's any doubt check out www.cathyrichardson.com. Go to "Videos" and check out "Love, Janis". Also on the bill will be another Summer of Love alumnus, Barry McGuire and Terry Talbot. Barry's "Eve of Destruction" displaced the Beatles from their number one spot in the Summer of Love. McGuire, with Mason Profit's Talbot will perform a set from their stage show "Trippin the 60's". The rest of the day will be filled with outstanding local bands playing music from either Woodstock, Monterey Pop or Peoples Park, which was a popular free concert park in San Francisco's Haight-Ashbury district. Local bands include: The Rudy Parris Band Band of Gypsy's The Double Doors Heavy Weather Green Machine The Band Mama's & the Papa's/Jefferson Airplane The Animals Other Information: Place: Woodward Park Activities Center Date: September 29, 2007 Gates Open: 11am Concert Starts: 12pm Ticket Cost: $10.00 VIP Tickets: $30.00 Children under 6 will be admitted with a paying adult. No outside food and drink. We'll have plenty of food/alcohol/drink and othe= r vendors on site. Due to Health Dept. regulations, dogs will not be allowed inside the concert area. The stage is set. It's a different war, and we're all a bit older, but, the music is as relevant now as it was then. It'll be a great day of outstandin= g music in an beautiful park like setting. So, throw on your tye dye'd shirts and skirts, get your old headbands out of the box in the garage, and join u= s for one of the best concerts of the year!! This is one that you'll want to tell your kids to bring you and the grand-kids too!!! --- i would suggest a road trip from the valley to SF for love fest SF and then have tatu play for an after after party on sunday or monday followed by pool party at my place with BBQ and wine i live right down the road from woodward park in fresno, california. my subdivision, the dominion subdivision (predominantly republican and military neigborhood) is at 316 shepherd in fresno, CA 93720. if you need to get a hold of me, my cell is: 559.940.5207 ------=_Part_11552_24233967.1191238394454 Content-Type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline live video feed for love fest 2007 in SF, CA...
http://justin.tv/lovefest

steve t intell director &= lt;tvt3169@yahoo.com> w= rote: CLICK HERE TO CONTINU= E TO SPUNDAE.COM
saturday= , september 29th
spundae an= d skills present...

THE 3rd ANNUAL OFF= ICIAL
LOVEFEST AFTERPARTY
at the BILL GRAHAM CI= VIC AUDITORIUM
9:00pm - 4:00am <= br>
CLICK HERE TO WATCH = LIVE STREAM! FLOAT SETUP (9/28)
PARADE + FESTIVAL + AFTERPARTY (9/29)

VISIT THE LO= VEFEST 07 AFTERPARTY WEBSITE!

THREE AREAS OF MUSIC
= Trance, House, and Breaks = = =20

featuring (area 1):
= SASHA :: FERRY CORSTEN
GABRIEL & DRESDEN :: <= span class=3D"PerformerName2">JOHN 00 FLEMING
ROBERT NICKSON :: DEEP VO= ICES ft. DYLOOT
=
area 2:
<= span style=3D"border-bottom: 1px dashed rgb(0, 102, 204); cursor: pointer;"= id=3D"lw_1191238235_4">DJ DAN :: DONALD GLAUDE
RICHARD VISSION :: EDDIE HALLIWELL
JOHN BEAVER :: DJ HIL
<= center>area 3: =
SV2 w/ SANDRA COLLINS &= ;
VELLO VIRKHAUS
DJ ICEY :: DJ RAP
CHRIS FORTI= ER :: THREE
ALAIN OCTAVO
= WHERE
BILL GRAHAM CIVIC AUDITORIUM
99 Grove Street
San Francisco, CA 94102
Map/Directions

BUY TICKETS
Online Ticket Sales On Sale NOW!
= Outlet Tickets sales begin August 4th

Pre-Sale P= rices: $45 / $55 / $65
Tickets will be $75 at the door.=20

ONLINE // PHONE
GrooveTickets
877.714.1662

SAN FRANCISCO
Anubis Warpus
= 1525 Haight Street
415.431.= 2218

BERKELY
Skills DJ Worksh= op
2566-A Telegraph Ave
510.704.9876

SACRAMENTO
C= hannelz
2371 Arden Way
=20 916.641.8808

VIP TICKETS =
Two VIP packages: General &Premium

General VIP // $125
TWO VIP Stages, each with four corner sound and own full bar :: VIP Laminate :: Two Drink Tickets :: Assorted Snacks:: Limited to 500 Tickets


Premium VIP // $2,000
8 VIP Tickets :: Private area with plush couches overlooking the main stage. :: Can invite two additional guests to your private seating area:: 32 Drink Tickets :: Snack Bar :: 8 VIP Laminates :: :: Full Access to General VIP Stages.> UPGRADE and become a VIP!!
= Bought a general admission ticket and decided that VIP was the way to go? Don't want to be left behind while your friends are livin= g it up VIP STYLE?
Perhaps just changed your mind?
NO PROBLEM! Just go to SKILLS DJ WORSKHOP in Berk= eley with your ticket in hand and pay the difference.

= VIP PRICE minus TICKET PURCHASE PRICE =3D what you need to pay to upgrade. =

Skills DJ Workshop 2566-A Telegraph Ave.
Be= rkeley, CA 94704
510.704.9876
TUESDAY =96 SUNDAY: 1PM =96 7PM
= CLOSED ON MONDAY

other info:
=95All Responsible adults 18 and over are welcome!
= =95Full food concessions. *Vegetarian friendly!*
=9512 Full bars for th= e 21 and up!
=95Multiple entrances with fast and friendly security! =95Outside Smoking area
=95Plenty of CLEAN in house restroom facilities!
=95Lots of fun gi= ve-a-ways!
=95Safe & Secure parking lots near by!
CLICK HERE TO CONTINUE TO SPUNDAE.COM

steve t intell director <tvt3169@yahoo.com> wrote:<= /font> tel aviv love parade video...
http://uncutvideo.aol.com/videos/a3c7d765a87fa8a469ca3b04cd= 1eea65

whoever hi-jacked the mini video cam i was supposed to g= et a month ago
from eliteshoppingnetwork.com better post videos of love fest 2007 SF, CA
for me!

steve t intell director < tvt3169@yahoo.com> wrote: love fest = SF 2007 site:
http://sflovefest.org

if u want = to go,=20 call me ASAP at 559.940.5= 207

map to billy graham civic auditorium...
http://www.mapqu= est.com/maps/map.adp?address=3D99+Grove+Street&zipcode=3D94102

floor plan for billy graham civic auditoriu= m...
http://indux.com/map/1066_billgrahamcivicaudi= torium_endstage_tn.jpg


steve t in= tell director <tvt3169@yahoo.com > wrote:
ok, i think troutpoop or one of the pb-cle crack heads like junglalien@aol.com
(part of the same dark tares= who had identity thefted me before for bogus
charges on my credit car= ds and impossible crimes and money laundering schemes)
hacked the love f= est site and turned it into a porn site, for love fest 2007 info,
check: http://sflovefest.org
steve t intell director < tvt3169@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: steve t intell director <tvt316= 9@yahoo.com >
Subject: booking for cali oktoberfest oct 23 in cali valley
To:= olga@tatu.ru

 need to know if ta= tu can play at love fest 2007 after party on 09.29.07
( lovefest.org) or cali valley = oktoberfest on oct 23. for details, check:
http://www.lemooreohvclub.com/news.php?subaction=3Dshowfull&id=3D112623= 7518&archive=3D&start_from=3D&ucat=3D3&

need to know ASAP
reply to this e-mail or call: 559.940.5207

.
ok, if the billy graham civic auditori= um is too packed for tatu
there is a local event here in fresno, california in the valley
that may have room...

=20
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Posted By:
 The Crossroads
Hosted By::
TH= E CROSSROADS AND WIZARD ENTERPRISES
e-mail =
When:
Saturda= y Sep 29, 2007
at 11:00 AM
Where::
 WOODWARD PARK
FRESNO, CA 93650
Un= ited States
= View Map=
=
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= 		=


=
2007 marks the 40th anniversary of the " Summer of Love". 1967 was a ti= me where our country was in turmoil over the war in Vietnam, the Beatles were taking a backseat to Hendrix and Joplin = as the music moved from a folk/rock style to psychedelic/anti-war rock.
It was truly, one of the very few times in our history where music helped change a generation. Monterey Pop was billed as the first major outdoor music festival of it's kind. It was followed by 500,000 strong attendance on a country farm, in upstate New York= , billed as Woodstock.

In commemoration of this great period in musical history, The Crossroads, Wizard Enterprises, Heineken, and Famous Dave's is proud to present:
"Fresno's 40th Anniversary of the Summer of Love"

Headli= ning the show will be Summer of Love alumnus Big Brother and the Hol= ding Company . We've invited them back after a nearly sold out Crossroads show earlier this year. The original members of the band will bring with them the very talented Kathy Richardson. If you missed the last show.....don't miss this one as Ms. Richardson will give every Joplin fan in attendance a reason to celebrate. Cathy and the band mesmerized 300 Crossroad fans with a chilling recreation of Janis at her best.

If t= here's any doubt check out www.cathyrichardson.com<= /a>. Go to "Videos" and check out "Love, Janis".
Also on the bill will be another Summer of Love alumnus, Barry McGuire and Terry Talbot. Barry's "Eve of Destruction" displaced the Beatles from their number on= e spot in the Summer of Love. McGuire, with Maso= n Profit's Talbot will perform a set from their stage show "Trippi= n the 60's".

The rest of the day will be filled with outstanding local bands p= laying music from either Woodstock, Monterey Pop or Peoples Park , which was a popular free concert park in San Francisco's Haight-Ashbu= ry district.

Local bands include:
The Rudy Parris Band =
Band of Gypsy's
The Double Doors
Heavy Weather
Green Mac= hine
The Band
Mama's & the Papa's/Jefferson Airplane
<= span style=3D"border-bottom: 1px dashed rgb(0, 102, 204); cursor: pointer;"= id=3D"lw_1191050173_26"> The Animals

Other Information:
Place: Woodward Park Activities Cen= ter
Date: September 29, 2007
Gates Open: 11am
Concert Starts: 1= 2pm
Ticket Cost: $10.00
VIP Tickets: $30.00

Children under 6 wi= ll be admitted with a paying adult.

No outside food and drink. We'll have plenty of food/alcohol/drink and other vendors on site. Due to Health Dept. regulations, dogs will not be allowed inside the concert area.

The stage is set. It's a different war, and we're all a bit older, but, the music is as relevant now as it was then. It'll be a great day of outstanding music in an beautiful park like setting. So, throw on your tye dye'd shirts and skirts, get your old headbands out of the box in the garage, and join us for one of the best concerts of the year!! This is one that you'll want to tell your kids to bring you and the grand-kids too!!!

---
i would suggest a road trip from the valley to SF for love fest SFand then have tatu play for an after after party on sunday or monday
followed by pool party at my place with BBQ and wine

i live right do= wn the road from woodward park in fresno, california .
my subdivision, the dominion subdivision (predominantly republi= can
and military neigborhood) is at 316 shepherd in fresno, CA 93720.

if you need to get a hold of = me, my cell is: 559.940.5207
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tera t - hard trance mix... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5z2dxFDe7M hard trance - tricky tricky... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEpAxtyyPl8 hard trance - expansian... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJxT45MO444 hard trance - flashback... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjdM-SuLCvk hard trance - megara... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuOEVCoPSeI hard trance - the future... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qh1kOj5PjoQ another day...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1IyRHSyh10
hard trance - outside world... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yEQzz82mvQ
hard trance - energy... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baSEvAz6L_0
hard trance - overdrive... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvIVD4QyTkw
hard trance - punk... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8-TPdVLuH8 are sure you want to leave the son?... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycgcr8q5Ff4 ------=_Part_11648_25203334.1191239317901 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline blink 182 - kids music video...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqCbL83__b0&NR=1

john digweed - heaven scent from the movie groove...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=3rL1kXvfFhU

groove dance kids...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilyKVLINnh0

bgirls extra credit crew...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uC5QeQLIgLM

bboys best tricks & combos...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBvaIY2OuWE

bboy danielle ft. tom k - listen to your heart...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NegNk4R-NLo

paul van dyk - innocence...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j57uw3WgssU&NR=1

paul van dyk v. sasha - hollywood beautys...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfEcRft3kMs

paul van dyk - for an angel (love parade mix)...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AVIoJw3YK4

linkin park - at the end (final fantasy advent children video)...
http://www.vidilife.com/index.cfm?f=media.play&vchrMediaProgramIDCryp=27AD7AA0-851F-41FB-BA12-4&actionfiltered=bestvideo

steve t intell director <tvt3169@yahoo.com > wrote:

    Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 04:22:19 -0700 (PDT)
    From: steve t intell director <tvt3169@yahoo.com>
    Subject: new video mix from the land of the chinese theatre was re: what the li'l mormon girl saw...
    To: meghan CBS <meaghancbs@yahoo.com>, allison cheng <cheng_alli@yahoo.fr>,
    liquid chicky < lqdchicky83@yahoo.com>,
    tiffany chin-sim <tchinsim@gmail.com>,
    david cutler <david.cutler@sflovefest.org >,
    stevet3169 intelligence director <tvt3169@yahoo.com>,
    christine dolce <ForbiddenMayhem@gmail.com>,
    etain < starpeoplemusic28@yahoo.com>, tina g <tinarave@aol.com>,
    kate granger < kategranger_1999@yahoo.com>,
    syd gris <sydgris@sflovefest.org>, kelly hanan <khanan25@yahoo.com>,
    janabel < xcalixpinayx@yahoo.com>,
    simply jeff <simplyjeff@phonomental.com>,
    lisa lee < lisaleeananias@yahoo.com>, jea leigh <jea_leigh@yahoo.com>,
    rammstein management <info@pilgrim-management.de>,
    tatu management <olga@tatu.ru>,
    fugee robert marshall <sickmayd54@hotmail.com>,
    will katherine merrick < willandkatherine@hotmail.com>,
    sexy pariz <sexypariz@hotmail.com>, rapture <rapture3169@gmail.com>,
    Stevie Ryan < ryanstevie@yahoo.com>, mormon sara <sorare@hotmail.com>,
    joshua smith <joshua.smith@sflovefest.org >,
    stacy smith <stacysmith304@hotmail.com>,
    alain spundae <alain@spundae.com>,
    trish stratus < fanart@trishstratus.com>,
    ill style <illstyle@illstylerockers.net>, steve t < tvt3169@gmail.com>,
    alice texas <aliceplatt71@gmail.com>, lisa texas <etsang@austin.rr.com>,
    brian UPS < brian@familyaffairfest.com>,
    john wood <john.wood@sflovefest.org>,
    fresno mormon youths < fresnoysa@yahoo.com>
    CC: new york sun <newsdesk@nysun.com>, steve t <tvt3169@gmail.com>,
    alice texas < aliceplatt71@gmail.com>, lisa texas <etsang@austin.rr.com>,
    NY Times <letters@nytimes.com>, seattle times < opinion@seattletimes.com>,
    chicago tribune <tips@tribune.com>, UN <inquiries@un.org>,
    brian UPS < brian@familyaffairfest.com>, LA Weekly <laweekly@aol.com>,
    fresno mormon youths <fresnoysa@yahoo.com>


    jouney - send her my love...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUc62lnhhPU

    kung fu fighting gif...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOGd61eESoA

    uprocking at the jams...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UIjIfruSXI

    liquid lights cru NYC...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XN3WZLBAxe4

    san jose glo-stick meet...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOiwCfBOvoY

    hsk v. hsr...
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=0ibFlEIfGng

    shuffle meet 1...
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=gJKwUjRJPbI

    shuffle meet 2...
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=JAGDaEboG7M

    gifs 80...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6zjU50JuEw

    gifs 81...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVkE9RyXzgM

    gifs 82...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwXRMdQo5hQ

    gifs 83...
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=b-bQj5b6D4o

    liquid extrapolation of chris clark...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1GSvz1girE

    leave perez hilton alone...
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=X6nPtyoovWo


    steve t intell director < tvt3169@yahoo.com> wrote:

        with correct 'another day' video code added...

        dj nineveh - hard trance mix...
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOkc5elVS9k
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          <param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/QOkc5elVS9k" />
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        tera t - hard trance mix...
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5z2dxFDe7M
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          <param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/G5z2dxFDe7M" />
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        hard trance - tricky tricky...
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEpAxtyyPl8
        <object enableJSURL="false" enableHREF="false" saveEmbedTags="true" allowScriptAccess="never" allownetworking="internal" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowScriptAccess="never" allownetworking="internal" height="350" width="425" data=" http://www.youtube.com/v/bEpAxtyyPl8">
          <param name="allowScriptAccess" value="never" />
          <param name="allowNetworking" value="internal" />
          <param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/bEpAxtyyPl8" />
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        hard trance - expansian...
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJxT45MO444
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          <param name="allowScriptAccess" value="never" />
          <param name="allowNetworking" value="internal" />
          <param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/gJxT45MO444" />
        </object>

        hard trance - flashback...
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjdM-SuLCvk
        <object enableJSURL="false" enableHREF="false" saveEmbedTags="true" allowScriptAccess="never" allownetworking="internal" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowScriptAccess="never" allownetworking="internal" height="350" width="425" data=" http://www.youtube.com/v/HjdM-SuLCvk">
          <param name="allowScriptAccess" value="never" />
          <param name="allowNetworking" value="internal" />
          <param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/HjdM-SuLCvk" />
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        hard trance - megara...
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuOEVCoPSeI
        <object enableJSURL="false" enableHREF="false" saveEmbedTags="true" allowScriptAccess="never" allownetworking="internal" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowScriptAccess="never" allownetworking="internal" height="350" width="425" data=" http://www.youtube.com/v/NuOEVCoPSeI">
          <param name="allowScriptAccess" value="never" />
          <param name="allowNetworking" value="internal" />
          <param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/NuOEVCoPSeI" />
        </object>

        hard trance - the future...
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qh1kOj5PjoQ
        <object enableJSURL="false" enableHREF="false" saveEmbedTags="true" allowScriptAccess="never" allownetworking="internal" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowScriptAccess="never" allownetworking="internal" height="350" width="425" data=" http://www.youtube.com/v/qh1kOj5PjoQ">
          <param name="allowScriptAccess" value="never" />
          <param name="allowNetworking" value="internal" />
          <param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/qh1kOj5PjoQ" />
        </object>

        another day...<br> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1IyRHSyh10<br>
        <object enableJSURL="false" enableHREF="false" saveEmbedTags="true" allowScriptAccess="never" allownetworking="internal" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowScriptAccess="never" allownetworking="internal" height="350" width="425" data=" http://www.youtube.com/v/E1IyRHSyh10">
          <param name="allowScriptAccess" value="never" />
          <param name="allowNetworking" value="internal" />
          <param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/E1IyRHSyh10" />
        </object>

        hard trance - outside world...
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yEQzz82mvQ<br>
        <object enableJSURL="false" enableHREF="false" saveEmbedTags="true" allowScriptAccess="never" allownetworking="internal" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowScriptAccess="never" allownetworking="internal" height="350" width="425" data=" http://www.youtube.com/v/5yEQzz82mvQ">
          <param name="allowScriptAccess" value="never" />
          <param name="allowNetworking" value="internal" />
          <param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/5yEQzz82mvQ" />
        </object>

        hard trance - energy...
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baSEvAz6L_0<br>
        <object enableJSURL="false" enableHREF="false" saveEmbedTags="true" allowScriptAccess="never" allownetworking="internal" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowScriptAccess="never" allownetworking="internal" height="350" width="425" data=" http://www.youtube.com/v/baSEvAz6L_0">
          <param name="allowScriptAccess" value="never" />
          <param name="allowNetworking" value="internal" />
          <param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/baSEvAz6L_0" />
        </object>

        hard trance - overdrive...
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvIVD4QyTkw<br>
        <object enableJSURL="false" enableHREF="false" saveEmbedTags="true" allowScriptAccess="never" allownetworking="internal" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowScriptAccess="never" allownetworking="internal" height="350" width="425" data=" http://www.youtube.com/v/YvIVD4QyTkw">
          <param name="allowScriptAccess" value="never" />
          <param name="allowNetworking" value="internal" />
          <param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/YvIVD4QyTkw" />
        </object>

        hard trance - punk...
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8-TPdVLuH8
        <object enableJSURL="false" enableHREF="false" saveEmbedTags="true" allowScriptAccess="never" allownetworking="internal" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowScriptAccess="never" allownetworking="internal" height="350" width="425" data=" http://www.youtube.com/v/r8-TPdVLuH8">
          <param name="allowScriptAccess" value="never" />
          <param name="allowNetworking" value="internal" />
          <param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/r8-TPdVLuH8" />
        </object>

        are sure you want to leave the son?...
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycgcr8q5Ff4
        <object enableJSURL="false" enableHREF="false" saveEmbedTags="true" allowScriptAccess="never" allownetworking="internal" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowScriptAccess="never" allownetworking="internal" height="350" width="425" data=" http://www.youtube.com/v/ycgcr8q5Ff4">
          <param name="allowScriptAccess" value="never" />
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        </object> ------=_Part_11648_25203334.1191239317901-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90350-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 01 11:55:01 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 44824 invoked by uid 1162); 1 Oct 2007 11:55:00 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: X-list-unsubscribe: X-list-post: X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 44790 invoked by uid 1162); 1 Oct 2007 11:55:00 -0000 Date: 1 Oct 2007 11:55:00 -0000 Message-ID: <20071001115500.44789.qmail@hyperreal.org> From: trout@hyperreal.org To: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Subject: {pb-cle} PB-CLE-RAVES LIST INFOS Pittsburgh-Cleveland Raves Welcome to pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org! Please save this message so that you know the address you are subscribed under, in case you later want to unsubscribe or change your subscription address. *** I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE IF YOU DO NOT READ THIS. I AM *** ASSUMING ALL LISTMEMBERS HAVE READ AND UNDERSTAND THIS, *** YOU WILL BE UNSUBSCRIBED WITHOUT WARNING FOR FAILURE *** TO FOLLOW THESE RULES. ** Pittsburgh-Cleveland Rave List POSTS: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org REQUESTS: pb-cle-raves-request@hyperreal.org WWW: http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/ R0M: http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/rom/ Posts to the list WILL BOUNCE UNLESS YOU POST FROM THE ADDRESS YOU SUBSCRIBED FROM!!!!! Also note: ALL POSTS ARE ARCHIVED, THAT MEANS THEY ARE KEPT ON THE WEB AT HYPERREAL, INDEXED BY DATE, AUTHOR, SUBJECT, AND THREAD. BEAR IN MIND THAT HOTBOT AND OTHER SEARCH ENGINES TROLL THEM AND THEY ARE AVAILABLE TO ANYONE WHO CAN USE A SEARCH ENGINE. I WILL NOT REMOVE POSTS MADE IN HASTE OR OTHERWISE. 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For the occasional post, "BSP" MUST BE INCLUDED IN THE HEADER. YOU WILL BE BLOCKED, YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED. this includes webcast reminders for people out of the region. **Attachments and HTML messages are not to be used**. If you really want to send a file to the list, please put it at a web site and just send the URL, if you don't have a web site, try geocities.com. If you're using Microsoft Outlook, Internet Exploder, or Netscape to write email, learn how to turn off the "HTML encoding." People on Unix shells can't read it, and don't care enough to save the attachment. Using AOL 6.0? read this or your msgs might be bounced due to aol stupidity, http://members.aol.com/adamkb/aol/mailfaq/#aol6html ("so easy no wonder it's number one .... FOR ME TO POOP ON!!!!") No arguing about which genre's suck. Only one subscription per individual. This is to prevent creating ghost accounts for the purposes of harrasment, hiding your identity, or getting around the quota. *if* you need to post under a different address than your subscribed address, such as a different address at work, etc, email trout@hyperreal.org and request arrangements. There is a "something" message per day limit. Use them wisely. I will not forward them to the list. i change it based on list traffic. as of summer 2004 its set to 20 or so. Posts should be rave related, if you MUST post an off topic message, post them to the OFF-TOPIC LIST. todd runs that somewhere. "me too!" and "i agree" posts are frowned up and make you look like an idiot. Forwarding private messages to the list that are not intended to be public are bad. Deliberate attacks on members is MOST UNWELCOME. Attacks on non-members are idiotic, becasue, well they aren't on the list and not welcome either. 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If you are new to the internet experience, sheltered on AOL, or just plain don't know netiquette, please read any of these: http://www.albion.com/netiquette/corerules.html http://www.etiquette.net/ http://www.iwillfollow.com/email.htm http://promotions.yahoo.com/promotions/netiquette/tips.html http://www.emilypost.com/etiquette.htm *List by-law 9.14.412: Let it be clearly stated, understood and accepted as fact that Tom Cox (aka "tmo" or "cracker ass cracker") is infallible in opinion, thought and word (but not deed...he done done some fucked up shit in his time), including but not limited to matters of pure opinion, actual scientific fact (despite any and all credible scientific evidence providing proof to the contrary), conjecture, and hearsay. also before you ask what ROAR is on the list-- "it means they have a lion guarding the door to make sure you pay!" - michael knight. no really it means: R-ight O-f A-dmission R-eserved (sometimes refusal) which means they don't have to let you in for any real reason whatsoever. To subscribe, send email to pb-cle-raves-subscribe@hyperreal.org. To unsubscribe, pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For special requests--contact listadmin: trout@hyperreal.org Please note that the listadmin reserves the right to unsubscribe anyone for more or less any reason, not limited to excessive bouncing of email, sending attachments or other extremely long posts, spamming (which includes repeated reposting of events), rudeness, vulgarity, bad hairdo, mailing "virus alerts", mailing chain letters, etc.... updated July 14, 2004 -- If you give me some tips at missile command and show me how to solve the Rubik's cube I could treat you orally From pb-cle-raves-return-90351-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 01 11:58:28 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 47487 invoked by uid 1162); 1 Oct 2007 11:58:28 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: X-list-unsubscribe: X-list-post: X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 47471 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2007 11:58:27 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=UyscLXfzRX/M4yASLJ6yETc5FYjEwwt7VJQZX4v4xeY=; b=NZKfuJCTIl7oXhyw0u3PRgvJh5fZWPgJq5/rZo9JlMxRoKG9SO/gCbwx/JuNRaAnBBcYiBUktC7ZeFcmJlfMWyCQRqNwIWplxd1/V/fZdUsxPu0QaEVvGnJRZsMT4iaHebHkkl1x088joizXXGVPMLrl55lGYx9B0SARnkX5U/Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=M4DkCW9PlmE2EinngyGp0QO/n4aNUVrteuqxG39HTyYgLQpzTu2BJeO3gBdG9rd5kwBdbp2TB3v2P+gx84jI8Z90W2ck88M3T2wJrlTIhRGSN9/aOmJthgWy/zJ22c6rHXOeYR9a9gnXZLUaIiNAMJE8vQsJJzlu8ZIgIB+AFho= Message-ID: <68bdb9980710010458n7df35995v5a4b0c8f73cdb901@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 04:58:26 -0700 From: "notanotherteenmovie 3169" To: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_11704_23505032.1191239906233" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: {pb-cle} Why The Crackdown on Crack Heads... ------=_Part_11704_23505032.1191239906233 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline first allow me to say i had nothing to do with the bust on troutpoop and his house of crack heads. i am not a DEA agent, so i can give a damn less about illegal drug trafficking. but since I was a part of the pre Y2K intelligence team for the state of Ohio, i am one of the most well connected people on earth. when i send out an e-mail to all the people on my list, it was last estimated that it gets forwarded totally to 10 million people, i am so well connected. i networked the networks. alot of the media owners are ZBT alumni of mine. this is why you notice alot of the reports i post on-line get turned into movies and TV shows. alot of party themes come from me as well. like i said i have promoted for over 1000 events from NYC to LA since 1998. i am the source of creation. alot of government workers and big businessmen are also ZBT alumni. some of which worked in the WTC before 9/11! i do know troutpoop was initially investigated for launching computer viruses targeting old microsoft windows 95 users and AOL users. on oct 2004, one of the computer viruses that he helped release caused the NE-black outs. NE-America was blacked out for 3 days and NYC suffered $6 billion loss of business. but worse yet, it caused a slight radiation leak at the davis-besse nuclear power plant in erie, ohio. anybody familiar with chernobyl knows how dangerous that can be. this is why i just posted the homeland security report showing that dick cheney concurs black-outs can cause meltdowns. after the NE-black-outs bill gates at Microsoft laid down a $5 million fed bounty on troutpoop for releasing the computer virus that caused the NE-blackouts. troutpoop got away with it by getting a 17 year old german boy to take the blame for it. that boy is spending time in jail for troutpoop. at the last Family Affair, FA5, near sandusky, ohio there was a death. some kid overdosed on LSD and drove his car into the pond and drowned. the LSD was traced to troutpoop. troutpoop was involved in involuntary man slaughter. there had been a few other casualties in the scene, but due to meth. there was a girl on the pb-cle-rave list who used "meth" as part of her e-mail name. thus the subsequent bust on the girl, troutpoop, and his house of crack heads. every real promotor can attest the biggest problem in the scene had been dark tares (violent black gang members) and crack heads like troutpoop. studio 54 was shut down after a woman overdosed on crack cocaine. metropolis was shut down due to cocaine trafficking of al quida jinx. red zone was shut down due to al quida jinx's gang killing someone in red zone. in vegas, dark tares shot a stripper, a bouncer, and a manager, dark tares shot 5 people in new york new york hotel and casino, and dark tares shot 2 people at little caesars. on the west coast, dark tares are the number one problem as well. in oakland, california last year, black gang members shot 9 party go'ers at a halloween party because a girl dropped her black gang member boyfriend for a mexican american DJ that spun at the party (so yes, gun totting dark tares are the exact ones love fest promotors want to keep out, which is why hateful dark tares want to lable the event a gay event when it is not)., 6 people were shot, mostly mexican americans at a club in the cali valley, and LA is notorious for black gang members only going to events to jump and mug patrons, car jack cars, shoot women of the night for their cash on hand, and rob the club owners or promotors at gun point. therefore the number one improvement of the scene has been added security from local law enforcement and the US military. since i was a former military recruiter of air force, army, marines, and navy, i started west coast homeland security in 2003 partially for this very reason. *steve t intell director * wrote: from http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070927/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/hacking_the_grid US video shows hacker hit on power grid By TED BRIDIS and EILEEN SULLIVAN, Associated Press Writers *1 hour, 34 minutes ago* WASHINGTON - A government video shows the potential destruction caused by hackers seizing control of a crucial part of the U.S. electrical grid: an industrial turbine spinning wildly out of control until it becomes a smokin= g hulk and power shuts down. The video, produced for the Homeland Security Department and obtained by Th= e Associated Press on Wednesday, was marked "Official Use Only." It shows commands quietly triggered by simulated hackers having such a violent reaction that the enormous turbine shudders as pieces fly apart and it belches black-and-white smoke. The video was produced for top U.S. policy makers by the Idaho National Laboratory, which has studied the little-understood risks to the specialize= d electronic equipment that operates power, water and chemical plants. Vice President Dick Cheney is among those who have watched the video, said one U.S. official, speaking on condition of anonymity because this official was not authorized to publicly discuss such high-level briefings. "They've taken a theoretical attack and they've shown in a very demonstrabl= e way the impact you can have using cyber means and cyber techniques against this type of infrastructure," said Amit Yoran, former U.S. cybersecurity chief for the Bush administration. Yoran is chief executive for NetWitness Corp., which sells sophisticated network monitoring software. "It's so graphic," Yoran said. "Talking about bits and bytes doesn't have the same impact as seeing something catch fire." The electrical attack never actually happened. The recorded demonstration, called the "Aurora Generator Test," was conducted in March by government researchers investigating a dangerous vulnerability in computers at U.S. utility companies known as supervisory control and data acquisition systems= . The programming flaw was quietly fixed, and equipment-makers urged utilitie= s to take protective measures. There was no evidence any U.S. utility company suffered damage from hackers or terrorists using this technique, U.S. officials said. But these official= s cautioned that affected systems are not routinely monitored as closely as many modern corporate computer networks, so there would be little forensic evidence to study after such a break-in. Industry experts cautioned that intruders would need specialized knowledge to carry out such attacks, including the ability to turn off warning systems. "The video is not a realistic representation of how the power system would operate," said Stan Johnson, a manager at the North American Electric Reliability Corp., the Princeton, N.J.-based organization charged with overseeing the power grid. A top Homeland Security Department official, Robert Jamison, said companies are working to limit such attacks. "Is this something we should be concerned about? Yes," said Jamison, who oversees the department's cybersecurity division. "But we've taken a lot of risk off the table." President Bush's top telecommunications advisers concluded years ago that a= n organization such as a foreign intelligence service or a well-funded terror group "could conduct a structured attack on the electric power grid electronically, with a high degree of anonymity, and without having to set foot in the target nation." Ominously, the Idaho National Laboratory =97 wh= ich produced the new video =97 has described the risk as "the invisible threat.= " Experts said the affected systems were not developed with security in mind. "What keeps your lights on are some very, very old technology," said Joe Weiss, a security expert who has testified before Congress about such threats. "If you can get access to these systems, you can conceptually caus= e them to do whatever it is you want them to do." The Homeland Security Department has been working with industries, especially electrical and nuclear companies, to enhance security measures. The electric industry is still working on their internal assessments and plans, but the nuclear sector has implemented its security measures at all its plants, the government said. In July the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission proposed a set of standard= s to help protect the country's bulk electric power supply system from cyber attacks. These standards would require certain users, owners and operators of power grids to establish plans and controls. *steve t intell director * wrote: james focht aka trout@pornstarstyle.com aka XXXjunglalienXXX previously investigated for confessing to releasing computer viruses that caused the NE-Black outs (3 days of black outs in NE-America that caused a slight radiation leak at the davis besse nuclear power plant in erie, ohio in oct, 2004), a prolific porn spammer who had an affinity toward targeting government workers with spams of his fecal porn obsession and collection of hitler stamps, is caught here once again pushing drugs on an internet list claiming government workers are insane and should take psychosis medication... troutpoop was originally investigated because he publicly posted his hate of microsoft and AOL. but was deeply investigated because he confessed to releasing computer viruses right before the NE-blackouts, 3 days of black-outs in NE-America that caused $6 billion dollars loss of business for NYC alone. but the worse part was, it also caused a slight radiation leak at the Davis-Besse nulcear power plant in erie, ohio. for all those who knew about Chernobyl, know exactly how dangerous it can be when there is a radiation leak. Bill Gates at Microsoft originally laid down a $5 million dollar federal bounty on troutpoop's head. but troutpoop was able to get away with it by getting a 17 year old german boy to take the blame. just as troutpoop wanted me to take the blame for taliban favor's opium when unfortunately i come from a reagan era republican family and was originally scouted by the defense department for NORAD in the 80's during the reagan administration for my high scores at missile command. i was a bit of a prodigy at an early age, i was drawing in 3D at the age of 5 as well, and I was the first one to solve the rubics cube in my town when it came out. in addition, like i said i was first used for federal investigations in 1994 at MBNA when Louie Freeh was the FBI Director and exec at MBNA and had used MBNA as a front for some financial investigations. my last job in Ohio was a federal government job, where i got people jobs in government, US military, fortune 500 company, and healthcare jobs. most jobs i had one cant get without passing a drug test and 2 interviews. i dont even smoke cigarettes. unfortunately the media persists in trying to treat the underground scene, which i helped start in ohio like a bunch of crack heads due to a few crack head idiots, who ruined the scene for us. some of which have been busted, but had nothing to do with the founding of the underground scene and were actually quite shunned in the beginning. people like al quida jinx, who got smart bar busted due to his under- age drinking, metropolis busted due to his cocaine trafficking, red zone busted due to his gang killing someone at red zone, his involvement in the 420 riots and bragging the WTC would be the ultimate insurance scam right before 9/11 obviously did not help out the scene at all. organized criminal gerrad martin, who is wanted on four counts of involuntary man slaughter and taliban favor, who threatened the us government with chemical warfare right before the RICIN attack on the US senate and was the number one suspect behind the west nile virus attack on gov. schwarzenegger, also did not help things at all. add to that the $125 billion loss of business caused by dark tares falsely accusin= g asians of opium (when in reality asians regard opium as jews regard swastikas ever since the emperor hacked heads to get opium out of china) to justify stealing imported japanese cars to keep for themselves or to sel= l on the black market, as well as the cali wildfires caused by black hate of mexicans, then you understand my dilemma as the one who started west coast homeland security in 2003. - steve t 3169, international intelligence director ------=_Part_11704_23505032.1191239906233 Content-Type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline first allow me to say i had nothing to do with the bust on= troutpoop and
his house of crack heads.  i am not a DEA agent, so = i can give a damn
less about illegal drug trafficking.  but since I= was a part of the pre Y2K
intelligence team for the state of Ohio= , i am one of the most well
connected people on earth.  when i sen= d out an e-mail to all the people
on my list, it was last estimated that it gets forwarded totally to 10<= br>million people, i am so well connected.  i networked the networks.&= nbsp;
alot of the media owners are ZBT alumni of mine.  this is wh= y you
notice alot of the reports i post on-line get turned into movies = and TV
shows.  alot of party themes come from me as well.  like i said i have
promoted fo= r over 1000 events from NYC to LA since 199= 8.  i am the=20
source of creation.  alot of government workers and big businessm= en are
also ZBT alumni.  some of which worked in the WTC before 9/= 11!

i do know troutpoop was initially investigated for launching com= puter=20
viruses targeting old microsoft windows 95 users and AOL users.  o= n
oct 2004, one of the computer viruses that he helped release caused <= br>the NE-black outs.  NE-America was blacked out for 3 days and NYC
suffered $6 billion loss of business.  but worse yet, i= t caused a slight
radiation leak at the davis-besse nuclear power plant= in erie, ohio. 
anybody familiar with chernobyl knows how dang= erous that can be. 
this is why i just posted the homeland securit= y report showing that dick
cheney concurs black-outs can cause meltdowns.

after= the NE-black-outs bill gates at Mic= rosoft laid down a $5 million
fed bounty on troutpoop for releasing the= computer virus that caused
the NE-blackouts.  troutpoop got away w= ith it by getting a 17 year old
german boy to take the blame for it.&nb= sp; that boy is spending time in jail
for troutpoop.

at the last Family Affair, FA5, near sandusky, ohio there was a death.
some kid overdose= d on LSD and drove his car into the pond and drowned.
the LSD was traced to troutpoop.  troutpoop was involved in involu= ntary
man slaughter. 

there had been a few other casualties= in the scene, but due to meth. there
was a girl on the pb-cle-rave lis= t who used "meth" as part of her e-mail name. =20
thus the subsequent bust on the girl, troutpoop, and his house of crack= heads.

every real promotor can attest the biggest problem in the sc= ene had been
dark tares (violent black gang members) and crack heads lik= e troutpoop.
studio 54 was shut down after a woman overdosed on crack cocaine.
metropolis was shut down= due to cocaine trafficking of al quida jin= x.
red zone was shut down due to al quida = jinx's gang killing someone in
red zone.  in vegas, dark tares= shot a stripper, a bouncer, and a manager,
dark tares shot 5 people in new york new york hotel and casino, and dark
tares shot 2 people = at little caesars. 

on the west coast, dark tares are the numb= er one problem as well.  in
oakland, california last year, black gang members shot 9 party go= 9;ers at
a halloween party because a girl dropped her black gang member= boyfriend
for a mexican american DJ that spun at the party (so yes, gu= n totting dark=20
tares are the exact ones love fest promotors want to keep out, which is= why
hateful dark tares want to lable the event a gay event when it is = not)., 6
people were shot, mostly mexican americans at a club in the ca= li valley,=20
and LA is notorious for black gang members only going to events to jump
and mug patrons, car jack ca= rs, shoot women of the night for their cash on
hand, and rob the club o= wners or promotors at gun point.  therefore the
number one improv= ement of the scene has been added security from local=20
law enforcement and the US military.  since i was a former militar= y recruiter
of air force, army, marines, and navy, i started west coast = homeland security
in 2003 partially for this very reason.


steve t intell director <tvt3= 169@yahoo.com> wrote:

from http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070927/ap_o= n_go_ca_st_pe/hacking_the_grid

= US video shows hacker hit on power gri= d =20

=
= By TED BRIDIS and EILEEN SULLIVAN, Associated = Press Writers =20 1 hour, 34 minutes ago =
=
WASHINGTON - A government video shows the potential destruction caused by hackers seizing control of a crucial part of the U.S. electrical grid: an industrial turbine spinning wildly out of control until it becomes a smoking hulk and power shuts down.
The video, produced for the Hom= eland Security Department and obtained by The Associated Press on Wednesday, was marked "Officia= l Use Only." It shows commands quietly triggered by simulated hackers having such a violent reaction that the enormous turbine shudders as pieces fly apart and it belches black-and-white smoke.
The video was produced for top U.S. policy makers by the Idaho National Laboratory, which has studied the little-understood risks to the specialized electronic equipment that operates power, water and chemical plants. Vice President Dick Cheney is among those who have watched the video, said one U.S. official, speaking on condition of anonymity because this official was not authorized to publicly discuss such high-level briefings.
"They've taken a theoretical attack and they've shown in a very demonstrable way the impact you can have using cyber means and cyber techniques against this type of infrastructure," said Amit Yoran, former U.S. cybersecurity chief for the Bush administration. Yoran is chief executive for NetWitness Corp., which sells sophisticated network monitoring software.
"It's so graphic," Yoran sai= d. "Talking about bits and bytes doesn't have the same impact as s= eeing something catch fire."
The electrical attack never actually happened. The recorded demonstration, called the "Aurora Generator Test," was conducted in March by government researchers investigating a dangerous vulnerability in computers at U.S. utility companies known as supervisory control and data acquisition systems. The programming flaw was quietly fixed, and equipment-makers urged utilities to take protective measures.
=
There was no evidence any U.S. utility company suffered damage from hackers or terrorists using this technique, U.S. officials said. But these officials cautioned that affected systems are not routinely monitored as closely as many modern corporate computer networks, so there would be little forensic evidence to study after such a break-in.
Industry experts cautioned that intruders would need specialized knowledge to carry out such attacks, including the ability to turn off warning systems.
"The video is not a realis= tic representation of how the power system would operate," said Stan Johnson, a manager at the North American Electric Reliability Corp., the Princeton, N.J.-based organization charged with overseeing the power grid.
A top Homeland Security Department official, Robert Jamison, said compa= nies are working to limit such attacks.
"Is this something we should be concerned about? Yes," said Jamison, who oversees the department's cybersecurity division. "But we've t= aken a lot of risk off the table."
President Bush's top telecommunications advisers concluded years ago that an organization such as a foreign intelligence service or a well-funded terror group "could conduct a structured attack on the electric power grid electronically, with a high degree of anonymity, and without having to set foot in the target nation." Ominously, the Idaho National Laboratory =97 which produced the new v= ideo =97 has described the risk as "the invisible threat."
Experts said the affected systems were not developed with security i= n mind.
"What keeps your lights on are some very, very old technology," said Joe Weiss, a security expert who has testified before Congress about such threats. "If you can get access to these systems, you can conceptually cause them to do whatever it is you want them to do."
The Homeland Security Department has been working with industries, especially electrical and nuclear companies, to enhance security measures. The electric industry is still working on their internal assessments and plans, but the nuclear sector has implemented its security measures at all its plants, the government said. In July the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission proposed a set of standards to help protect the country's bulk electric power supply system from cyber attacks. These standards would require certain users, owners and operators of power grids to establish plans and controls.

steve = t intell director <tvt3169@yahoo.co= m> wrote:
james focht aka trout@pornstarstyle.com aka XXXjunglalienXXX
previously investigate= d for confessing to releasing computer viruses
that caused the NE-Black= outs (3 days of black outs in NE-America
that caused a slight radiation leak at the davis besse nuclear powerplant in erie, ohio in oct, 2004), a prolific porn spammer who had
an affinity toward targeting government w= orkers with spams of his
fecal porn obsession and collection of hitler s= tamps, is caught here
once again pushing drugs on an internet list claim= ing government
workers are insane and should take psychosis medication...

trou= tpoop was originally investigated because he publicly posted
his hate of= microsoft and AOL.  but was deeply investigated because
he confess= ed to releasing computer viruses right before the NE-blackouts,
3 days of black-outs in NE-America that caused $6 billion dollars loss<= br>of business for NYC alone.  but th= e worse part was, it also caused a
slight radiation leak at the Davis-Besse nulcear power plant in erie,
ohio.  for all those who knew ab= out Chernobyl, know exactly how
dangerous it can be when there is a radiation leak.

Bill Gates at Microsoft originally laid down a $5 million dollar federal
bounty= on troutpoop's head.  but troutpoop was able to get away with
it by getting a 17 = year old german boy to take the blame.  just as
troutpoop wanted me= to take the blame for taliban favor's opium
when unfortunately i come from a reag= an era republican family
and was originally scouted by the defense depar= tment for NORAD
in the 80's during the reagan administration for my = high scores at
missile command.  i was a bit of a prodigy at an early age, i was<= br>drawing in 3D at the age of 5 as well, and I was the first one to
sol= ve the rubics cube in my town when it came out.  in addition,
like = i said i was first used for federal investigations in 1994 at MBNA
when Louie Freeh was the FBI Director and exec at MBNA and had
used= MBNA as a front for some financial investigations.  my last
job in= Ohio was a federal government job, where i got people jobs
in gov= ernment, US military, fortune 500 company, and healthcare
jobs.  mo= st jobs i had one cant get without passing a drug test and
2 interviews.&n= bsp; i dont even smoke cigarettes.

unfortunately the media persists= in trying to treat the underground
scene, which i helped start in ohio like a bunch of crack heads due
to a few crack head idiots= , who ruined the scene for us.  some of which
have been busted, but= had nothing to do with the founding of the
underground scene and were a= ctually quite shunned in the beginning.
people like al quida jinx, who got sma= rt bar busted due to his under-
age drinking, metropolis busted due to h= is cocaine trafficking, red
zone busted due to his gang killing someone at red zone, his
involve= ment in the 420 riots and bragging the WTC would be the
ultimate insura= nce scam right before 9/11 obviously did not help
out the scene at all.= =20

organized criminal gerrad martin, who is wanted on four counts ofinvoluntary man slaughter and taliban favor, who threatened the us
government with chemical warfare right before the RICIN attack on th= e
US senate and was the number one suspect behind the west nile virusattack on gov. schwarzenegger, also did not help things at all.  add = to
that the $125 billion loss of business caused by dark tares falsely acc= using
asians of opium (when in reality asians regard opium as jews regar= d
swastikas ever since the emperor hacked heads to get opium out of chin= a)
to justify stealing imported japanese cars to keep for themselves or to= sell
on the black market, as well as the cali wildfires caused by black= hate of
mexicans, then you understand my dilemma as the one who started= west
coast  homeland security in 2003.

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An artists can leave themselves manipulatable loops / pads / samples, but the drum structure will always be some preset pattern.  Hopefully they've created good sounding pre-sets, and taken the time to find a pattern that facilitates human movement but they're all "pre-set".

I love the fact that any sound can be twisted and contorted with "thousands of effects" to fit into what you're creating.  Powerful tool....expansion of what can be input into your track.  I saw Thomas Fehlman of the Orb this weekend and it him manipulating presets.....and it sounded so fucking good.  Definitely creative.



Nick S <hasnoplur@hotmail.com> wrote:
....but the creativity and using what you have is taken away when u can have thousands of effects and instruments with millions of presets...alot of ppl arent really creating their own sound anymore, they are just basically dj'ing presets.

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Read more about this event (and see who's going): http://going.com/invite-11530?recipient_email=pb-cle-raves%40hyperreal.org&src=v_i_sfo_11530_aa59303790 --- Unsubscribe from DeeCee's invites: http://going.com/unsub.php?e=pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org&t=r&c=aeb959b1f6c0a908815c44448548784c&s=aa59303790 DeeCee's Soul Shakedown 60 6th Street, San Francisco, CA 94563 deecee3@hotmail.com --=_7e686bc9d9c5bf77e7babed928033f4b Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" THIS SAT @ CLUB 6 : FREE w/ RSVP : THE RETURN OF DJ REVOLUTION </tit= le> </head> <body> <div style=3D"padding: 15px;"> <div id=3D"body" style=3D"width: 620px; font: 12px arial,verdana; color:#65= 6565;"> <br/> <div id=3D"user" class=3D"highlight" style=3D"background: #FFFFCD; padd= ing: 10px; font-size: 13px"> <div class=3D"content" style=3D"padding-bottom: 5px; float:right; w= idth: 550px; color:#656565;"> <div style=3D"color:#0065ca; font-size: 16px; font-weight: norm= al; padding-bottom: 5px;"> Reminde= r -=20 <a style=3D"color:#0065ca; text-decoration: none;font: = 16px arial,verdana;" href=3D"http://going.com/profile.php?user_id=3Daa59303= 790">DeeCee</a> sent you an invite </div> This might be the biggest DeeCee's Soul Shakedown Party ye= t. The World Famous Wake Up Show's DJ Revolution returns. Oakland so= ul sensation Femi makes her first appearance @ a Soul Shakedown Party. And= international reggae star Rocker T is fired up to give Club 6 another fire= show. This is the only place to be this Saturday in SF ... don't sle= ep. RSVP gets you in free before 11PM. <br style=3D"clear:left"= /> </div><!--content--> <a style=3D"text-decoration: none" href=3D"http://going.com/profile= .php?user_id=3Daa59303790"> <img style=3D"border:none;" src=3D"http://static.going.com/thum= bnails/e17/sq42_user_20070924_165610_0.69701300.jpeg"/></a> <br style=3D"clear: right; font-size: 5px"/> <br style=3D"clear: right; font-size: 1px"/> </div><!--user--> <br/> =20 <div id=3D"internal_portlet" style=3D"border:1px solid #d5d5d5;"><img s= rc=3D"http://static.going.com/images/portlet_side_600.gif"/><div class=3D"c= ontent" style=3D"padding: 6px 20px 16px 20px"> <div style=3D"color:#0065ca;padding: 5px 0 5px 0; font-size: 20px;"= >DEECEE'S SOUL SHAKEDOWN PARTY @ CLUB 6 w/ DJ Revolution, Rocker T, Ja= h Yzer : FREE B4 11 W/ RSVP</div> <a style=3D"color:#0065ca; text-decoration: none; display: block; f= loat: right; font: 12px arial,verdana;" class=3D"btn_rsvp_now top" href=3D"= http://going.com/invite-11530?recipient_email=3Dpb-cle-raves%40hyperreal.or= g&src=3Dv_i_sfo_11530_aa59303790"> <img style=3D"border:none" src=3D"http://static.going.com/image= s/buttons/rsvp_now.gif" alt=3D"RSVP Now"/> </a> <strong class=3D"date_location" style=3D"font-size: 13px; font-weig= ht:bold;color:#656565;"> Oct 6 (Sat) at 10 PM = at <a style=3D"text-decoration:none; color:#666; font: 13px arial,ver= dana;" href=3D"venue-3644" title=3D"Club Six">Club Six</a> </strong> <span style=3D"white-space:nowrap; color:#656565;" class=3D"venue"> 60 6th St ,=20 San Francisco,=20 CA (<a style=3D"color:#0065ca; text-= decoration: none;font: 12px arial,verdana;" href=3D"http://maps.google.com/= maps?q=3D60+6th+St%2C+San+Francisco%2C+CA+94103" target=3D"_new">Map</a>) </span> <div style=3D"padding-top: 5px; color:#6= 56565;" class=3D"interested"> <span style=3D"color: white; background: #61A4EB; font-weight: = bold; padding: 1px 5px 1px 5px;" class=3D"oint">63</span> interested   |   Viewed 268 times by 109 people </div> <div class=3D"wide" style=3D"padding: 28px 0 0 0;;text-align: cente= r"> <a style=3D"color:#0065ca; text-decoration: none;" target=3D"_b= lank" href=3D"http://going.com/invite-11530?recipient_email=3Dpb-cle-raves%= 40hyperreal.org&src=3Dv_i_sfo_11530_aa59303790"> <img style=3D"border:none;" src=3D"http://static.going.com/= thumbnails/ea1/re575_user_20070917_150123_0.89531400.jpeg"/> </a> </div><!--image:wide|narrow--> =20 <div class=3D"description" style=3D"padding-top: 20px; color:#65656= 5;"> =20 <B>DeeCee's Soul Shakedown is doing it large again ... every 1st Saturday we bring you three rooms of pure niceness ... 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ONE LOVE ..</B> <P> <IMG src=3D"http://a301.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/125/l_337215320da= 9d02a30e3efd018259754.jpg"/></P> <P> <IMG src=3D"http://a844.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/112/l_0e23a65ae27= 2a6f9deb1791c8ef557e3.jpg"/></P> </div> =20 <p class=3D"read_more" style=3D"padding-top: 20px; clear: left; col= or:#656565;"> <a style=3D"color:#0065ca; text-decoration: none; font-weight: = bold; font: 15px arial,verdana;" href=3D"http://going.com/invite-11530?reci= pient_email=3Dpb-cle-raves%40hyperreal.org&src=3Dv_i_sfo_11530_aa593037= 90">Read more about this event</a>    (and see who's going) </p> </div><!--content--> <div class=3D"footer" style=3D"background: #EFEFEF; text-align: center;= padding: 14px 0 14px 0"> <a style=3D"color:#0065ca; text-decoration: none; height: 20px; fon= t: 12px arial,verdana;" class=3D"btn_rsvp_now top" href=3D"http://going.com= /invite-11530?recipient_email=3Dpb-cle-raves%40hyperreal.org&src=3Dv_i_= sfo_11530_aa59303790"> <img style=3D"border: none" src=3D"http://static.going.com/imag= es/buttons/rsvp_now.gif" alt=3D"RSVP Now"/> </a> </div> </div><!--internal_portlet--> =20 <div style=3D"padding: 25px 15px 0 15px;" class=3D"bottom"> <p style=3D"color:#656565; font-size: 14px"> <a style=3D"color:#0065ca; text-decoration: none;font: 14px arial,v= erdana;" href=3D"http://going.com/unsub.php?e=3Dpb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org&= amp;t=3Dr&c=3Daeb959b1f6c0a908815c44448548784c&s=3Daa59303790">Unsu= bscribe</a> from DeeCee's invites. </p> <p style=3D"color:#656565;"> DeeCee's Soul Shakedown<br/> 60 6th Street, San Francisco, CA 94563<br/> <a style=3D"color:#0065ca; text-decoration: none;font: 12px ari= al,verdana;" href=3D"mailto:deecee3@hotmail.com">deecee3@hotmail.com</a> </p> </div></div><!--body--> </div> </body> </html> --=_7e686bc9d9c5bf77e7babed928033f4b-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90360-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 01 19:16:35 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90360-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17436 invoked by uid 1162); 1 Oct 2007 19:16:35 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17406 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2007 19:16:34 -0000 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (64.233.182.184) by taz3.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Oct 2007 19:16:34 -0000 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id 4so10035063nfv for <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org>; Mon, 01 Oct 2007 12:16:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=NZD400sKYsEW8SGcZDRkytF1avHeCrklGqyGxFPD5Rk=; b=d2s6oLdu/ByO8drThickvMzw/qZwctJqpeO52IwXBwCPPWzhsYDptVPW7rYtUXBnQHeOEOsZNMMYRAu60+nZXa5MgvHvg0GmS1XwVwPl3f4NnpKKXIfIOvm6JopCc+7zd9HqLyMkFWmWm14rGTIXg2lqv1fGuEuT/4TvAvIfokk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=GPvjK0e77WRjCqoxUgGD9cCz9SkcxnfEuK0jlTOv3Ag+w7qsAOgRPBaByQSei1n7eHUExv3QA6dswSM3wkLIIPfg80K0ay6tnI/FPfMBSjJP3fYN4Krf7nfAFrOC9wKyrFjafEg+WJKTGwFiCF+t7kwv5cvffAiut87BSEaWtrc= Received: by 10.78.37.7 with SMTP id k7mr3445638huk.1191266192225; Mon, 01 Oct 2007 12:16:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.31.4 with HTTP; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 12:16:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8641c6dd0710011216m6c1e48dey5d73337f216c78f9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 15:16:32 -0400 From: "[mark ]" <hypnotyza@gmail.com> To: djentropy@mindspring.com Cc: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <op.tzhg3puqvuw4b3@tripiithemoon> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <bfd.1c9347fc.34315c3b@aol.com> <op.tzhg3puqvuw4b3@tripiithemoon> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} Superstar DJ's <<The irony is that music like BT's and all that crap is about the easiest thing to make electronically...because you don't have to have any sort of songwriting, musical skills, or soul to do it. It's 100% removed from what dance music is about: the dance floor.>> I don't disagree that BT's music is kind-of garbage, but the REALLY sad part is that he's probably one of most highly-trained musicians to work in "electronic dance music" in the last decade and a half. He's got good compostitional skills, and knows a lot about scoring and orchestration, but you're right...that IN NO WAY translates to "good dance music".... Most of the time, formal training is a HINDERANCE to creating aesthetically great dance music more than a bonus. This explains why a lot of the "architects" of modern dance music have traditionally come from depressed locales (Chicago house, Detroit techno, the Manchester, UK scene, etc.) and used gear that was considered crap by "traditional musicians" (the 303). I'm not saying "fuck some knowledge". I'm just saying that sometimes, not knowing that you're breaking rules is a good thing. m -- "When love is gone, there's always justice. And when justice is gone, there's always force." --- Laurie Anderson, "O Superman" Blind faith in bad leadership is not "Patriotism". -- If you give me some tips at missile command and show me how to solve the Rubik's cube I could treat you orally From pb-cle-raves-return-90361-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 01 19:25:42 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90361-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25695 invoked by uid 1162); 1 Oct 2007 19:25:41 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! 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( [69.65.110.10]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q34sm472739wrq.2007.10.01.12.27.49 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 01 Oct 2007 12:27:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <47014AAA.4080403@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 15:29:46 -0400 From: Dean J <talldean@gmail.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org References: <bfd.1c9347fc.34315c3b@aol.com> <op.tzhg3puqvuw4b3@tripiithemoon> <8641c6dd0710011216m6c1e48dey5d73337f216c78f9@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8641c6dd0710011216m6c1e48dey5d73337f216c78f9@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} Superstar DJ's [mark ] wrote: > <<The irony is that music like BT's and all that crap is about the > easiest thing to make electronically...because you don't have to have > any sort of songwriting, musical skills, or soul to do it. It's 100% > removed from what dance music is about: the dance floor.>> > > I don't disagree that BT's music is kind-of garbage, but the REALLY > sad part is that he's probably one of most highly-trained musicians to > work in "electronic dance music" in the last decade and a half. > > He's got good compostitional skills, and knows a lot about scoring and > orchestration, but you're right...that IN NO WAY translates to "good > dance music".... > > Most of the time, formal training is a HINDERANCE to creating > aesthetically great dance music more than a bonus. This explains why a > lot of the "architects" of modern dance music have traditionally come > from depressed locales (Chicago house, Detroit techno, the > Manchester, UK scene, etc.) and used gear that was considered crap by > "traditional musicians" (the 303). > > I'm not saying "fuck some knowledge". I'm just saying that sometimes, > not knowing that you're breaking rules is a good thing. > > m > Being classically trained lets you write music in a classical style. Chopin, Beethoven, Bach, and the rest weren't know for dropping the funk, which is what most dancefloors seem to love. :-) -D -- If you give me some tips at missile command and show me how to solve the Rubik's cube I could treat you orally From pb-cle-raves-return-90363-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 01 19:42:22 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90363-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 36841 invoked by uid 1162); 1 Oct 2007 19:42:20 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 36821 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2007 19:42:19 -0000 Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (209.85.146.176) by taz3.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Oct 2007 19:42:19 -0000 Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id l35so5039040waf for <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org>; Mon, 01 Oct 2007 12:42:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=O+1zyQ9cErHr1t9TDgxjn+lFcayxHH+0Uf7MIsZDdsY=; b=f6RMgxuaE+NKW4IW0PVDO51Q3xHLpnlGnAftu8NKCbUJSfaNg7gbdGiquSIEya1S2pyENm+0/+kE9NUd+cdH1wr6ym5oIP6aSVYhz/gYcy+In3O028X8lRBhZh8wf3u98h1Z8u3qnEnnqs3u6IpyoLWE97XagTtK1v4V3Myviuo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ExN19JlCo9oFMWqdLu4H50vEN7GUki8vmt2ii3rYe7W+2SPnW+gH4VIAwwiDy/+2xcf9m6HSULNmp6ERT9pJl0Wsoq2K7AeuxC336qIPQOsInDz0pR7w4PsfE/SVtZUmX5U2gBYpYj4lThDLuKnK1y2f6OmpdDA3c3UJER+/XOw= Received: by 10.114.120.1 with SMTP id s1mr5480979wac.1191267737702; Mon, 01 Oct 2007 12:42:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.68.19 with HTTP; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 12:42:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <e23444c80710011242i3a5f0b8asa8d15663899526ed@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 15:42:17 -0400 From: "Ed Rodgers" <ed.rodgers@gmail.com> To: "XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com" <XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com> Cc: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <ceb.1c857b3f.34329763@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_5972_28474611.1191267737667" References: <ceb.1c857b3f.34329763@aol.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} Communications between the mentally ill ------=_Part_5972_28474611.1191267737667 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline dude. THAT was funny. On 10/1/07, XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com <XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com> wrote: > > Before you consider un-subbing me I feel I should warn you. Due to my > high score at Tekken I was scouted by the UFC. > > > > > Eric C primary owner jack russel terrier > > > ------=_Part_5972_28474611.1191267737667 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline dude.  THAT was funny.<br><br> <div><span class="gmail_quote">On 10/1/07, <b class="gmail_sendername"><a href="mailto:XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com">XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com</a></b> <<a href="mailto:XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com">XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com</a> > wrote:</span> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid"> <div style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><font face="Arial" color="#000000" size="2"> <div>Before you consider un-subbing me I feel I should warn you. Due to my high score at Tekken I was scouted by the UFC.</div> <div> </div> <div> </div> <div> </div> <div> </div> <div>Eric C  primary owner jack russel terrier</div></font><span class="q"><br><br></span></div></blockquote></div> ------=_Part_5972_28474611.1191267737667-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90364-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 01 19:45:18 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90364-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 38616 invoked by uid 1162); 1 Oct 2007 19:45:17 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 38602 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2007 19:45:17 -0000 Received: from el-out-1112.google.com (209.85.162.183) by taz3.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Oct 2007 19:45:17 -0000 Received: by el-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id s27so851670ele for <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org>; Mon, 01 Oct 2007 12:45:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=rOe5C6CbHLC6mOgvgUpqLvR2aCp0rFubm7f9GoUpJT4=; b=er3vu5TIWzW+x1XoirOuriVaLBm1A72ZOt5+ggC39e1wxdav4Y1MAE5LguDbhcrMM8VjZvLBxdI2jOg4/9XZRhDYEpMb7cAQeD1JdeQNPVdxrPEgMPtStmJAS5pnSEaaGsko/BADObEls7u7q7HbavbtL4ppRrAU51QGNBBeIik= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=nP1PWlakbai9hzD44jLDppWBk2JOOHHOgxBKpz808QG3xqvqPT7UtAM7s8grK8B98V/f/wZfyw5lKT86cgHjuCe6xeTuw+eSYoXpjiCj9C10B2BSve7t9n0W8PNz14FAGTeuelZuPLBcyfwm/vT1BleY2agHFr9uHfkd2gD1X7k= Received: by 10.114.149.2 with SMTP id w2mr558673wad.1191267915099; Mon, 01 Oct 2007 12:45:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.68.19 with HTTP; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 12:45:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <e23444c80710011245o5569d717g56f82343badf6b65@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 15:45:15 -0400 From: "Ed Rodgers" <ed.rodgers@gmail.com> To: "[mark ]" <hypnotyza@gmail.com> Cc: djentropy@mindspring.com, pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <8641c6dd0710011216m6c1e48dey5d73337f216c78f9@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_5979_13900522.1191267915090" References: <bfd.1c9347fc.34315c3b@aol.com> <op.tzhg3puqvuw4b3@tripiithemoon> <8641c6dd0710011216m6c1e48dey5d73337f216c78f9@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} Superstar DJ's ------=_Part_5979_13900522.1191267915090 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline right... i dig titonton... he has had a little training :) but he also has soul. i think that's what BT lacks. On 10/1/07, [mark ] <hypnotyza@gmail.com> wrote: > > <<The irony is that music like BT's and all that crap is about the > easiest thing to make electronically...because you don't have to have > any sort of songwriting, musical skills, or soul to do it. It's 100% > removed from what dance music is about: the dance floor.>> > > I don't disagree that BT's music is kind-of garbage, but the REALLY > sad part is that he's probably one of most highly-trained musicians to > work in "electronic dance music" in the last decade and a half. > > He's got good compostitional skills, and knows a lot about scoring and > orchestration, but you're right...that IN NO WAY translates to "good > dance music".... > > Most of the time, formal training is a HINDERANCE to creating > aesthetically great dance music more than a bonus. This explains why a > lot of the "architects" of modern dance music have traditionally come > from depressed locales (Chicago house, Detroit techno, the > Manchester, UK scene, etc.) and used gear that was considered crap by > "traditional musicians" (the 303). > > I'm not saying "fuck some knowledge". I'm just saying that sometimes, > not knowing that you're breaking rules is a good thing. > > m > > > -- > "When love is gone, there's always justice. > And when justice is gone, there's always force." > --- Laurie Anderson, "O Superman" > > Blind faith in bad leadership is not "Patriotism". > > > -- > If you give me some tips at missile command and show me how to solve the > Rubik's cube I could treat you orally > > ------=_Part_5979_13900522.1191267915090 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline <div>right... i dig titonton... he has had a little training :)  but he also has soul.</div> <div> </div> <div>i think that's what BT lacks.  <br><br> </div> <div><span class="gmail_quote">On 10/1/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">[mark ]</b> <<a href="mailto:hypnotyza@gmail.com">hypnotyza@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid"><<The irony is that music like BT's and all that crap is about the<br>easiest thing to make electronically...because you don't have to have <br>any sort of songwriting, musical skills, or soul to do it.  It's 100%<br>removed from what dance music is about:  the dance floor.>><br><br>I don't disagree that BT's music is kind-of garbage, but the REALLY <br>sad part is that he's probably one of most highly-trained musicians to<br>work in "electronic dance music" in the last decade and a half.<br><br>He's got good compostitional skills, and knows a lot about scoring and <br>orchestration, but you're right...that IN NO WAY translates to "good<br>dance music"....<br><br>Most of the time, formal training is a HINDERANCE to creating<br>aesthetically great dance music more than a bonus. This explains why a <br>lot of the "architects" of modern dance music have traditionally come<br>from depressed locales (Chicago house, Detroit techno,  the<br>Manchester, UK scene, etc.) and used gear that was considered crap by<br> "traditional musicians" (the 303).<br><br>I'm not saying "fuck some knowledge". I'm just saying that sometimes,<br>not knowing that you're breaking rules is a good thing.<br><br>m<br><br><br> --<br>"When love is gone, there's always justice.<br>And when justice is gone, there's always force."<br>        --- Laurie Anderson, "O Superman"<br><br>Blind faith in bad leadership is not "Patriotism". <br><br><br>--<br>If you give me some tips at missile command and show me how to solve the<br>Rubik's cube I could treat you orally<br><br></blockquote></div><br> ------=_Part_5979_13900522.1191267915090-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90365-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 01 19:46:31 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90365-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 39300 invoked by uid 1162); 1 Oct 2007 19:46:30 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! 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( [69.65.110.10]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 3sm7698941wrh.2007.10.01.13.01.55 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 01 Oct 2007 13:01:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <470152A5.4030903@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 16:03:49 -0400 From: Dean J <talldean@gmail.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: {pb-cle} Spam today? WTF is up with the spam? Normally, Gmail snipes it all for me, but today's been 10+ spam messages on-list through the spam filter. 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Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 54541 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2007 20:07:40 -0000 Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (209.85.146.176) by taz3.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Oct 2007 20:07:40 -0000 Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id l35so5048382waf for <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org>; Mon, 01 Oct 2007 13:07:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=VwDssOc+BDW+LjKV9GmAVMYSv2SwxSDijeIlddohF5c=; b=H5w+n9SjB/8B+Qan8WgXS/EcWiLuXhTzydVuqJQmur3kGji8NT869Kto+wvlKDJWhwAiWIzBV6FFm+6RdNZODE6zkGSOq0f5QHgkwFZwqX3fDZxF7wnomW7YjZzT5jDdEwnQerbfrco33G2JHF1hbmdzG696MyX0bAOjlSKIloc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=FobBu5AnldVvZecn9PxT+Td94pmky5LrTONwXtHbX9RUtmaX7Z7r+dVl/vzy0b3cQzpkXJH13nVb0P6JJVOpPpMTJ34yPNKkm1lAt0SGVvg2tf+QgcBnrvfxnWaoeA0p/PCCJbyNN5Hh8+falkZWTREXAa0ODS4bVrqhcPltn3o= Received: by 10.115.55.1 with SMTP id h1mr431444wak.1191269259648; Mon, 01 Oct 2007 13:07:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.68.19 with HTTP; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 13:07:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <e23444c80710011307u69aa65d0o3f9f40ee29486a79@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 16:07:39 -0400 From: "Ed Rodgers" <ed.rodgers@gmail.com> To: "Dean J" <talldean@gmail.com> Cc: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <470152A5.4030903@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_6048_14386927.1191269259635" References: <470152A5.4030903@gmail.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} Spam today? ------=_Part_6048_14386927.1191269259635 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline pb-cle is trusted and for whatever reason (lack of trout hardware?) anyone can sub to the list.... so subscriptions to the list are a boomin... weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! buy my penis pump! On 10/1/07, Dean J <talldean@gmail.com> wrote: > > WTF is up with the spam? 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Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 60970 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2007 20:16:21 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=NbkeLWgshGEPV6xnB8M5bcc/gcGBxXxs4JUB+VaaeRo=; b=nlLj5i8bGywUGDcSwh2K7QaKNBbztxpCo6ntOA7jOLz1AvSCdizVzHSW9FTqzI2I0idgyTi7NuJstZxPIaIt3R+bvJPSXhQH15kKUZT8vs4fvLIDUlnKZi1CXwN3zzoMb8qW8uBRSC2xOilTcXzEmNp6fBLd43sBGa0TqpL8J9s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=RA+vP/Dk5V0ZomYq2gdZWvHUTeS4m9H1n3G5gga9GzCHu+N5eB82VnmT/O2OK/T3Qjbo08gSuGvq4D2fOecUqilyWvonpbBE9Of7KRj3mSb5vM09+fS+4D8fPd0tXJUgvcYB4aK4Jhg0vuDReTRwrj+spO4IaMGA6AzJLJHogZI= Message-ID: <47015569.4070802@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 16:15:37 -0400 From: trout <troutsoup@gmail.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org References: <470152A5.4030903@gmail.com> <e23444c80710011307u69aa65d0o3f9f40ee29486a79@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <e23444c80710011307u69aa65d0o3f9f40ee29486a79@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} Spam today? i tweaked one of the list files and something got messed up methinks. i was putting the wackjob filter back in place that seemed to have gotten overwritten in a ezmlm config change a few weeks ago. bleh! i dropped an old backup in just now, so hopefully that fixes things. 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Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12416 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2007 21:18:49 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=E277KanfXXrN34jDEzne1WE/KB2ZfC1FE93ciH2sx6w=; b=t/3G23bcQ68/LrJboYK9kPzztcwDtNSNWAwUJYs1lnlP7bBYqGqRmi/FNHR2sbmIbawvT9WRTNv9WdAHXHApu629vfJ0WktUUdXxL4+oYI4GEzvlYcRnFz7lpmcQzha1LqWqcN7qKKu1ZvkZlE+9s3nMNgP/+Cqc4o6k9//XcOU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=ixfB6a+wiSF+R2jQHcb8NKr8SR5j2nTCXaJ7BAFwWYAKg5VlxhDtW2kH7GTK3CJm9H9ciS6wzCXoMkVma5U/xwcoeN5Rf+qGijHwMyfJlcB9malIYs0JyiJrU5SqKtN+hdzmjox9L+dWFCGrMS62hbxvJuvRqOPdeaztPEimysQ= Message-ID: <8641c6dd0710011418p18719100p6d99beca1377f20d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 17:18:46 -0400 From: "[mark ]" <hypnotyza@gmail.com> To: doodoostank <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: {pb-cle} massive spamination! embiggen your member! extra girth!!! testing my local filters. m -- "When love is gone, there's always justice. 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Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13396 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2007 21:20:14 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=5q3oqjCt63tV9X3IKvGOs+dwiP19t62mrImgbDm9/ok=; b=i0b1oCNZ/k5VBF+xtgS4ez1Ald//I2qpfEDlFDk4o3OljS67gMemhJEwJrglXrTIHLkSTKNbr8EnPgJZ+WDtaMF/ga1ygOUs4ZsR1L5oKYGWL+OiReXwRX0qtTXH/+Cm+jlrPlbPKeZeicUJVAt6YxXscjujHNuk17heK6asExg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=qivn/5uP1GYWG5rxk9q1QMvwYlIFTp6GKLNVooOQA9S8eI3ySDDYvdocxsZEg3LUUmO7b7pbkqnkSja3Hjb88ySSuuq1YWlNwJ0sKWdChUZ0SATID51hksKCm4hjFXBwTbGTg2ZryjCON+RsyVA9qND4sjoBs+N3M+bILJjtDuE= Message-ID: <47016464.3000306@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 17:19:32 -0400 From: trout <troutsoup@gmail.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doodoostank <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> References: <8641c6dd0710011418p18719100p6d99beca1377f20d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8641c6dd0710011418p18719100p6d99beca1377f20d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} massive spamination! embiggen your member! extra girth!!! the backup file didnt fix it but i've asked on the listadmin list and waiting to hear back from the other admins. [mark ] wrote: > testing my local filters. > > m > -- If you give me some tips at missile command and show me how to solve the Rubik's cube I could treat you orally From pb-cle-raves-return-90375-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 01 21:24:33 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90375-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16462 invoked by uid 1162); 1 Oct 2007 21:24:32 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16448 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2007 21:24:32 -0000 Message-ID: <002201c80436$bcd1f2c0$62524b5b@hqt> From: <qwest2021@e-myth.com> To: <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 16:24:12 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: {pb-cle} Move Move Move Huge Trading Day For FRLE As Brokers Wrestle For Price Grab Fearless International FRLE.OB Now: $0.20 Rumors of an investor frenzy has brokers grabbing shares and pushing prices down for maximum return. The whole world is keeping there eye on this one. This is just getting geared up, we expect to see this get bigger as the week goes on. 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Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3418 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2007 23:24:01 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=jhBI8RiOOXAfkEOVecRaKqElVuqMz/yv+JwTXGCXQw8cgDWuI46k5HoD4o8Eqsqq; h=Received:Date:To:Subject:Reply-To:From:Organization:Cc:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 19:23:56 -0400 To: "[mark ]" <hypnotyza@gmail.com> Reply-To: djentropy@mindspring.com From: "DJ Entropy" <djentropy@mindspring.com> Organization: America's #1 Hardcore DJ/Producer Cc: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-15 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <bfd.1c9347fc.34315c3b@aol.com> <op.tzhg3puqvuw4b3@tripiithemoon> <8641c6dd0710011216m6c1e48dey5d73337f216c78f9@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <op.tzjkl6wxvuw4b3@tripiithemoon> In-Reply-To: <8641c6dd0710011216m6c1e48dey5d73337f216c78f9@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.23 (Win32) X-ELNK-Trace: 6b6f10563bc8a19efcd34c2497a6c28d40683398e744b8a49dc479006acea2ed8fa2244d5b497740666fa475841a1c7a350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 24.233.110.70 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} Superstar DJ's On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 15:16:32 -0400, [mark ] <hypnotyza@gmail.com> wrote: > <<The irony is that music like BT's and all that crap is about the > easiest thing to make electronically...because you don't have to have > any sort of songwriting, musical skills, or soul to do it. It's 100% > removed from what dance music is about: the dance floor.>> > > I don't disagree that BT's music is kind-of garbage, but the REALLY > sad part is that he's probably one of most highly-trained musicians to > work in "electronic dance music" in the last decade and a half. > > He's got good compostitional skills, and knows a lot about scoring and > orchestration, but you're right...that IN NO WAY translates to "good > dance music".... > > Most of the time, formal training is a HINDERANCE to creating > aesthetically great dance music more than a bonus. This explains why a > lot of the "architects" of modern dance music have traditionally come > from depressed locales (Chicago house, Detroit techno, the > Manchester, UK scene, etc.) and used gear that was considered crap by > "traditional musicians" (the 303). > > I'm not saying "fuck some knowledge". I'm just saying that sometimes, > not knowing that you're breaking rules is a good thing. Agreed. 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From pb-cle-raves-return-90384-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Oct 02 14:18:00 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90384-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 111 invoked by uid 1162); 2 Oct 2007 14:18:00 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 99993 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2007 14:17:59 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=S39kFsF8zBQ9yqyerIyosTWFbsLOkqeOSz1cGqXikpc=; b=s7YPQxcGIWEQpmBqLI9+01m/Op/2QWkEgI5G9kw4VmqfDu7GGgStmL21MonwAdcvzLAn58zuj/hegUgyd4OepFqvwp73CCCdu5cFJ5rfQD6fwhckWuAlF/JWTUljdhCJ4fkRUyM+cwxmlTMOrDLgcqD8mpVoZLX1pHUBOxp2qjQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=G1/4KwAFLSLYnV29jUW+v6DxNgf7wxBpFRZls6yoyH7vcyQPbXVF3q2NnT+ygwPoJje2RcXmmAI+rXBG25emF8WbbdN8Z5Dd4p8/+vJYMAtN4bue6BHOVLzb4816ER3mEWpo95OzTKsRsfTJta2ZRHJzB2L92veYJIkQccUPN2s= Message-ID: <47025385.5030400@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 10:19:49 -0400 From: Dean J <talldean@gmail.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: {pb-cle} Buzzlife finally puts out a flyer So, a lot of folks figured Moby was a one-off event, as they didn't have future events announced. Just saw the flier design, and figured I'd pass it on. :-) Text: http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z42/iimedia/buzzBACK_FINAL1_big.jpg Pretty Front of Flyer: http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z42/iimedia/buzzFRONT_FINAL_big.jpg Fridays: 10/05 The Scumfrog vs Scott Henry 10/12 MSTRKRFT 10/19 Freeform Five [DJ Set] 10/28 Carl Cox @ The Halloween Party 11/02 Lee Burridge | Audiofly 11/09 M.A.N.D.Y. 11/16 DJ Dan | Scott Henry 11/23 Steve Porter | Luke Fair 12/14 The Crystal Method [DJ Set] 12/21 Feelgood | Scott Henry @ The Holiday Party Fur Nightclub 33 Patterson St, NE Washington, DC 3 dance floors + outdoor patio 9 PM - 4 AM Drink specials 9-11 18+ with government issued ID www.buzzlife.com 202-338-BUZZ From pb-cle-raves-return-90385-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Oct 02 14:34:35 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90385-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11131 invoked by uid 1162); 2 Oct 2007 14:34:34 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11114 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2007 14:34:34 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=vahOWSxqZH/ERJcPOodn9Ly6DuCnlQ3rterlzzUZM18=; b=JHECOszakyXX4zS/ykaoypiXUg4PQZ3P6tOxUWJx+v3YtCj4g4k5AhVFcS51s5sYjHlIloCfRjG5cYm8zyCDzswG9IMeQtQ9yg4NI1MAYgFhH1Q3IouP4LN9SRe5Zd7VRX5ckczYA8V/LN8twB2GF6jitugIkoU7iJeuDWsh7hI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=cl0SR1FlSsJ1FHT8LfehERtX2/GCM5BFRmTBJM1uFKdkloz/CnAl4xlLRGpWlTcW3nB+tT4d/bNUz5Q4t64wyy8uly3hS6RVfmdXB+asctLTfUmRoSjEiWOLvVUrMbzcHpAM6aoC5QSkl6nJ4XPfNGkFEfUfAaJ3y95QQef5IZU= Message-ID: <47025767.3030001@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 10:36:23 -0400 From: Dean J <talldean@gmail.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org References: <47025385.5030400@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <47025385.5030400@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} Buzzlife finally puts out a flyer Meanwhile, my report back about the reopening night of Buzz: Sound was awesome in main room, mixed bag in second room, good in third room and on the patio. Patio was incredibly smoky, as you can't legally smoke indoors in DC anymore. Sander van Doorn was alright, but not my thing. I had e. coli poisoning. I left early. Boo to this. MSTRKRFT, Freeform Five, Carl Cox, M.A.N.D.Y., I am *definitely* looking forward to. I hear a rumor of Boyz Noize in there somewhere as well. -D Dean J wrote: > So, a lot of folks figured Moby was a one-off event, as they didn't > have future events announced. Just saw the flier design, and figured > I'd pass it on. :-) > > Text: > http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z42/iimedia/buzzBACK_FINAL1_big.jpg > > Pretty Front of Flyer: > http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z42/iimedia/buzzFRONT_FINAL_big.jpg > > Fridays: > 10/05 The Scumfrog vs Scott Henry > 10/12 MSTRKRFT > 10/19 Freeform Five [DJ Set] > 10/28 Carl Cox @ The Halloween Party > 11/02 Lee Burridge | Audiofly > 11/09 M.A.N.D.Y. > 11/16 DJ Dan | Scott Henry > 11/23 Steve Porter | Luke Fair > 12/14 The Crystal Method [DJ Set] > 12/21 Feelgood | Scott Henry @ The Holiday Party > > Fur Nightclub > 33 Patterson St, NE > Washington, DC > 3 dance floors + outdoor patio > 9 PM - 4 AM > Drink specials 9-11 > 18+ with government issued ID > www.buzzlife.com > 202-338-BUZZ > > From pb-cle-raves-return-90386-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Oct 02 21:08:39 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90386-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 84304 invoked by uid 1162); 2 Oct 2007 21:08:39 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 84287 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2007 21:08:38 -0000 Message-ID: <BAY104-W250AF0FF6230005CF21CAAAFAE0@phx.gbl> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_28fb08a9-e2a0-4fc2-bb95-603941c97471_" X-Originating-IP: [76.241.134.61] From: Nick S <hasnoplur@hotmail.com> To: <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> CC: "Sound, Sound Bionics, Bionics" <sbx_100@yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 17:08:38 -0400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <144053.38983.qm@web33415.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <BAY104-W23DE37153DED728E1DFBC8AFAC0@phx.gbl> <144053.38983.qm@web33415.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Oct 2007 21:08:38.0379 (UTC) FILETIME=[66F663B0:01C80538] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: RE: {pb-cle} Superstar DJ's --_28fb08a9-e2a0-4fc2-bb95-603941c97471_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i dont know how u do a live set...but i dont use any presets at all...i yea= h, i setup drum maps and single cycle waveforms on my samplers(so i can fak= e classic synths i dont own)....the only thing i even use a computer for li= ve is a super basic midi sequencer(seq-303 by techno toys)to drive a paia f= atman(a presetless 100% analog synth)....but when i get going i either star= t from a blank sequence, or a set of sequences with one pitched/stretched b= reakbeat on it(pitching stretching breakbeats on the fly is impossible w/ m= y setup, thats the only pre-production i do)...and go from there...all my p= atches, drum machine loops, and effect mixes are created 100% on the fly...= when i did live sets w/ an 808 and 909....i always started w/ the 808 and 9= 09 in write mode w/ a completely blank slate....the drums got built up and = torn down by hand....multiple people on this list watched me do it if u don= t believe me. Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 10:33:48 -0700 From: sbx_100@yahoo.com Subject: RE: {pb-cle} Superstar DJ's To: hasnoplur@hotmail.com; pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org A live PA is essentially dj'ing pre-sets An artists can leave themselves manipulatable loops / pads / samples, but t= he drum structure will always be some preset pattern. Hopefully they've cr= eated good sounding pre-sets, and taken the time to find a pattern that fac= ilitates human movement but they're all "pre-set". I love the fact that any sound can be twisted and contorted with "thousands= of effects" to fit into what you're creating. Powerful tool....expansion = of what can be input into your track. I saw Thomas Fehlman of the Orb this= weekend and it him manipulating presets.....and it sounded so fucking good= . Definitely creative. Nick S <hasnoplur@hotmail.com> wrote: ....but the creativity and using what you have is taken away when u can have thousands= of effects and instruments with millions of presets...alot of ppl arent re= ally creating their own sound anymore, they are just basically dj'ing prese= ts. =20 Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search=20 that gives answers, not web links.=20 _________________________________________________________________ Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks & Treats for You! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=3DTXT_TAGHM&loc=3Dus= --_28fb08a9-e2a0-4fc2-bb95-603941c97471_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html> <head> <style> .hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body.hmmessage { FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma } </style> </head> <body class=3D'hmmessage'> <div style=3D"text-align: left;">i dont know how u do a live set...but i do= nt use any presets at all...i yeah, i setup drum maps and single cycle wave= forms on my samplers(so i can fake classic synths i dont own)....the only t= hing i even use a computer for live is a super basic midi sequencer(seq-303= by techno toys)to drive a paia fatman(a presetless 100% analog synth)....b= ut when i get going i either start from a blank sequence, or a set of seque= nces with one pitched/stretched breakbeat on it(pitching stretching breakbe= ats on the fly is impossible w/ my setup, thats the only pre-production i d= o)...and go from there...all my patches, drum machine loops, and effect mix= es are created 100% on the fly...when i did live sets w/ an 808 and 909....= i always started w/ the 808 and 909 in write mode w/ a completely blank sla= te....the drums got built up and torn down by hand....multiple people on th= is list watched me do it if u dont believe me.<br></div><br><blockquote><hr= >Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 10:33:48 -0700<br>From: sbx_100@yahoo.com<br>Subject= : RE: {pb-cle} Superstar DJ's<br>To: hasnoplur@hotmail.com; pb-cle-raves@hy= perreal.org<br><br>A live PA is essentially dj'ing pre-sets<br>An artists c= an leave themselves manipulatable loops / pads / samples, but the drum stru= cture will always be some preset pattern.  Hopefully they've created g= ood sounding pre-sets, and taken the time to find a pattern that facilitate= s human movement but they're all "pre-set".<br><br>I love the fact that any= sound can be twisted and contorted with "thousands of effects" to fit into= what you're creating.  Powerful tool....expansion of what can be inpu= t into your track.  I saw Thomas Fehlman of the Orb this weekend and i= t him manipulating presets.....and it sounded so fucking good.  Defini= tely creative.<br><br><br><br><b><i>Nick S <hasnoplur@hotmail.com></i= ></b> wrote:<blockquote class=3D"EC_replbq" style=3D"margin-left: 5px; padd= ing-left: 5px;"> ....but the creativity and using what you have is taken away when u can have thousands= of effects and instruments with millions of presets...alot of ppl arent re= ally creating their own sound anymore, they are just basically dj'ing prese= ts.<br></blockquote><br>=20 <BR><hr size=3D"1">Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, <a href=3D"http://us.rd= .yahoo.com/evt=3D48252/*http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer= =3D1ONXIC" target=3D"_blank"> mobile search=20 that gives answers</a>, not web links.=20 </blockquote><br /><hr />Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks & Treats for You! <a href= =3D'http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=3DTXT_TAGHM&loc=3Dus' target=3D'_new'>= Get 'em!</a></body> </html>= --_28fb08a9-e2a0-4fc2-bb95-603941c97471_-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90387-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Oct 02 21:54:57 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90387-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19059 invoked by uid 1162); 2 Oct 2007 21:54:55 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19013 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2007 21:54:52 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=u49vniEQC12jCT487YLoLlYSR64geOXtRv6F2MDK4nON3MG4/QfTYxTvk5qGCPNeC62O1bJQEf2oSK59mBQFuOO6BeyfKDuguzUZONvyDhfVoUi860dZAsV3n2yOOkxMlWZkKkdg1Saxws14NAgjTbea+JNQGSK8sDbuYoXwwRs=; X-YMail-OSG: GOzA3L0VM1lihWmvF4KV9GC.udKPsPQA9P6_i6IfIQN_wJ9aX.Km0ss_yogC07KlmHrjXeRfWDt__twXNlHjtW6QsThQqgzd.KfsVDxKq.1Qz3JB15xKKcpQs4ud7w-- Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 14:54:45 -0700 (PDT) From: "Sound, Sound Bionics, Bionics" <sbx_100@yahoo.com> To: Nick S <hasnoplur@hotmail.com>, pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <BAY104-W3868DB79A87DD6343D15A2AFAE0@phx.gbl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1690369118-1191362085=:37077" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <687585.37077.qm@web33409.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: RE: {pb-cle} Superstar DJ's --0-1690369118-1191362085=:37077 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Couple points: drum maps = presets looped breakbeats = presets Synth pads = presets Even analog synths have pre-set sounds that you use as a starting point. Look man, I'm not ripping what you're doing at all. We're both on one of the same Experimedia comps. Just keep it straight that preset programming and sounds go into your live PA, and you mix them (like a dj) Its cool that you've left lots of open points for construction and deconstruction. I use a Machine Drum, an Electribe ESX, and an FX processor running through three channels independent channels. The drum machines loop through the FX and back into the FX channel. I work with two other artists with various gear. I twist the shit out of the starting point and end up somewhere else, but there is a starting point. If I was modeling every single drum hit on every single track from scratch on the fly it would be a dull live show, and we wouldn't have a dance vibe. Maybe thats just me. Nick S <hasnoplur@hotmail.com> wrote: .hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body.hmmessage { FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma } i dont know how u do a live set...but i dont use any presets at all...i yeah, i setup drum maps and single cycle waveforms on my samplers(so i can fake classic synths i dont own)....the only thing i even use a computer for live is a super basic midi sequencer(seq-303 by techno toys)to drive a paia fatman(a presetless 100% analog synth)....but when i get going i either start from a blank sequence, or a set of sequences with one pitched/stretched breakbeat on it(pitching stretching breakbeats on the fly is impossible w/ my setup, thats the only pre-production i do)...and go from there...all my patches, drum machine loops, and effect mixes are created 100% on the fly...when i did live sets w/ an 808 and 909....i always started w/ the 808 and 909 in write mode w/ a completely blank slate....the drums got built up and torn down by hand....multiple people on this list watched me do it if u dont believe me. --------------------------------- Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 10:33:48 -0700 From: sbx_100@yahoo.com Subject: RE: {pb-cle} Superstar DJ's To: hasnoplur@hotmail.com; pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org A live PA is essentially dj'ing pre-sets An artists can leave themselves manipulatable loops / pads / samples, but the drum structure will always be some preset pattern. Hopefully they've created good sounding pre-sets, and taken the time to find a pattern that facilitates human movement but they're all "pre-set". I love the fact that any sound can be twisted and contorted with "thousands of effects" to fit into what you're creating. Powerful tool....expansion of what can be input into your track. I saw Thomas Fehlman of the Orb this weekend and it him manipulating presets.....and it sounded so fucking good. Definitely creative. Nick S <hasnoplur@hotmail.com> wrote: ....but the creativity and using what you have is taken away when u can have thousands of effects and instruments with millions of presets...alot of ppl arent really creating their own sound anymore, they are just basically dj'ing presets. --------------------------------- Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. --------------------------------- Help yourself to FREE treats served up daily at the Messenger Café. 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Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. --0-1690369118-1191362085=:37077 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Couple points:<br>drum maps = presets<br>looped breakbeats = presets<br>Synth pads = presets<br><br>Even analog synths have pre-set sounds that you use as a starting point.<br><br>Look man, I'm not ripping what you're doing at all.  We're both on one of the same Experimedia comps.  Just keep it straight that preset programming and sounds go into your live PA, and you mix them (like a dj)  Its cool that you've left lots of open points for construction and deconstruction.<br><br>I use a Machine Drum, an Electribe ESX, and an FX processor running through three channels independent channels.  The drum machines loop through the FX and back into the FX channel.  I work with two other artists with various gear.  I twist the shit out of the starting point and end up somewhere else, but there is a starting point.  If I was modeling every single drum hit on every single track from scratch on the fly it would be a dull live show, and we wouldn't have a dance vibe.  Maybe thats just me. <br><br><br><br><br><b><i>Nick S <hasnoplur@hotmail.com></i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <style> .hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body.hmmessage { FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma } </style> <div style="text-align: left;">i dont know how u do a live set...but i dont use any presets at all...i yeah, i setup drum maps and single cycle waveforms on my samplers(so i can fake classic synths i dont own)....the only thing i even use a computer for live is a super basic midi sequencer(seq-303 by techno toys)to drive a paia fatman(a presetless 100% analog synth)....but when i get going i either start from a blank sequence, or a set of sequences with one pitched/stretched breakbeat on it(pitching stretching breakbeats on the fly is impossible w/ my setup, thats the only pre-production i do)...and go from there...all my patches, drum machine loops, and effect mixes are created 100% on the fly...when i did live sets w/ an 808 and 909....i always started w/ the 808 and 909 in write mode w/ a completely blank slate....the drums got built up and torn down by hand....multiple people on this list watched me do it if u dont believe me.<br></div><br><blockquote><hr>Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 10:33:48 -0700<br>From: sbx_100@yahoo.com<br>Subject: RE: {pb-cle} Superstar DJ's<br>To: hasnoplur@hotmail.com; pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org<br><br>A live PA is essentially dj'ing pre-sets<br>An artists can leave themselves manipulatable loops / pads / samples, but the drum structure will always be some preset pattern.  Hopefully they've created good sounding pre-sets, and taken the time to find a pattern that facilitates human movement but they're all "pre-set".<br><br>I love the fact that any sound can be twisted and contorted with "thousands of effects" to fit into what you're creating.  Powerful tool....expansion of what can be input into your track.  I saw Thomas Fehlman of the Orb this weekend and it him manipulating presets.....and it sounded so fucking good.  Definitely creative.<br><br><br><br><b><i>Nick S <hasnoplur@hotmail.com></i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="EC_replbq" style="margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> ....but the creativity and using what you have is taken away when u can have thousands of effects and instruments with millions of presets...alot of ppl arent really creating their own sound anymore, they are just basically dj'ing presets.<br></blockquote><br> <br><hr size="1">Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, <a href="http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48252/*http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC" target="_blank"> mobile search that gives answers</a>, not web links. </blockquote><br><hr>Help yourself to FREE treats served up daily at the Messenger Café. <a href="http://www.cafemessenger.com/info/info_sweetstuff2.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_OctWLtagline" target="_new">Stop by today!</a></blockquote><br><p> <hr size=1>Building a website is a piece of cake. <br>Yahoo! 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Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 99575 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2007 00:07:05 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=ameritech.net; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=YhXXiVX+FNLRMmTBpe9lnbtDg8mCEeJnjdevZsIBBIx5rb609NHxcEwKk3E5IZXHhGT2RbEH47B2xKTIXh1/hql/z9l3JQlXVlHu8alOC3NS2goAV8OO37QJg096dy9w7QAt4KwH8MNPisMkhfuxhQutVVZ5yhuFkryFwgA+40g= ; X-YMail-OSG: wd1e6w4VM1kRq_142DPV2k8PriP_TImJWBOwrcOaGB7fC2wYUjrlhOxetliIgrVXUw6hwOFlzKi_buwRxZgijKhKbBSyY4H_YX8BgZngFKW_Ct0QmA9JVKgyto68edA82c_.CE4ADglixvk- Message-ID: <005801c80551$5460d0a0$6501a8c0@poobas.store> From: "Doug Burkhart" <dougburkhart@ameritech.net> To: <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 20:07:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0055_01C8052F.CCD804D0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: {pb-cle} This Sunday - Harvest Rhythms - Free @ Twist with Tek-know? ------=_NextPart_000_0055_01C8052F.CCD804D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.poo-bas.com/flyers/harvest_rhythms_07.jpg THIS SUNDAY! 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Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 70192 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2007 02:29:11 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from; bh=fjilIkfiGbXhuV255+TqNC88PBxrjWbhXCtvMh6PMnQ=; b=BFUF3VFH7KXGx1NoeXkZk6SbamNzLPAjJc8vq7E8e3jJXjwKMLSuLblkPyfbulTpfZkf/LXJC1LGZu9pVCJvSuF419xyj5j3hIyH7NfrXa+8rO6/aupRh7dPAv+L0+tDUVhZsqhtjyyYAfmpMejZ6GvisAl2D/Oiwfk4q3blJKA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from; b=felVAMOWmQPKwgNHPya9TVti4++VlAbDNt50X6RZrrTS6onhEi/ZAdt3yQskzChi0S9Rcy3yqb899eYnz8clLwLZq3M2qPoF86RN7u+1S3H5dXUQJEuUvImC9slhcYfQgksMlXVF9H4vkZuglMZZ/gOCRyYlVwTlYdRO5W9Ch00= Message-ID: <4702FE96.1010106@pornstarstyle.com> Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 22:29:42 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: peebeecle <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: trout <troutsoup@gmail.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: {pb-cle} Fwd: Analog Silence Generator wow, i've been missing out on these great plugins! -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Ahot] Analog Silence Generator Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 19:21:11 -0500 From: Greg To: AHOT http://www.sonicfinger.com/index.html You too can get that perfect analog silence you have been looking for! Greg From pb-cle-raves-return-90390-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 03 16:13:56 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90390-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9631 invoked by uid 1162); 3 Oct 2007 16:13:55 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9595 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2007 16:13:54 -0000 Message-ID: <BAY104-W318E2B01366AC2CC9F38A0AFAF0@phx.gbl> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_e5d2d597-f5e3-4cc5-a221-6ac0f501649a_" X-Originating-IP: [76.241.134.61] From: Nick S <hasnoplur@hotmail.com> To: <sbx_100@yahoo.com> CC: <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 12:13:54 -0400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <687585.37077.qm@web33409.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <BAY104-W3868DB79A87DD6343D15A2AFAE0@phx.gbl> <687585.37077.qm@web33409.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Oct 2007 16:13:54.0246 (UTC) FILETIME=[64CF9660:01C805D8] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: RE: {pb-cle} Superstar DJ's --_e5d2d597-f5e3-4cc5-a221-6ac0f501649a_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable what i was getting at is i make my own presets, rather then flipping thru h= undreds of presets that come with vst flavor of the week at kvr. Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 14:54:45 -0700 From: sbx_100@yahoo.com Subject: RE: {pb-cle} Superstar DJ's To: hasnoplur@hotmail.com; pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Couple points: drum maps =3D presets looped breakbeats =3D presets Synth pads =3D presets Even analog synths have pre-set sounds that you use as a starting point. Look man, I'm not ripping what you're doing at all. We're both on one of t= he same Experimedia comps. Just keep it straight that preset programming a= nd sounds go into your live PA, and you mix them (like a dj) Its cool that= you've left lots of open points for construction and deconstruction. I use a Machine Drum, an Electribe ESX, and an FX processor running through= three channels independent channels. The drum machines loop through the F= X and back into the FX channel. I work with two other artists with various= gear. I twist the shit out of the starting point and end up somewhere els= e, but there is a starting point. If I was modeling every single drum hit = on every single track from scratch on the fly it would be a dull live show,= and we wouldn't have a dance vibe. Maybe thats just me.=20 Nick S <hasnoplur@hotmail.com> wrote: i dont know how u do a live set..= .but i dont use any presets at all...i yeah, i setup drum maps and single c= ycle waveforms on my samplers(so i can fake classic synths i dont own)....t= he only thing i even use a computer for live is a super basic midi sequence= r(seq-303 by techno toys)to drive a paia fatman(a presetless 100% analog sy= nth)....but when i get going i either start from a blank sequence, or a set= of sequences with one pitched/stretched breakbeat on it(pitching stretchin= g breakbeats on the fly is impossible w/ my setup, thats the only pre-produ= ction i do)...and go from there...all my patches, drum machine loops, and effect mixes are created 100% on the fly...when i = did live sets w/ an 808 and 909....i always started w/ the 808 and 909 in w= rite mode w/ a completely blank slate....the drums got built up and torn do= wn by hand....multiple people on this list watched me do it if u dont belie= ve me. Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 10:33:48 -0700 From: sbx_100@yahoo.com Subject: RE: {pb-cle} Superstar DJ's To: hasnoplur@hotmail.com; pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org A live PA is essentially dj'ing pre-sets An artists can leave themselves manipulatable loops / pads / samples, but t= he drum structure will always be some preset pattern. Hopefully they've cr= eated good sounding pre-sets, and taken the time to find a pattern that fac= ilitates human movement but they're all "pre-set". I love the fact that any sound can be twisted and contorted with "thousands= of effects" to fit into what you're creating. Powerful tool....expansion of what can be input into your track. I saw Thomas Fehl= man of the Orb this weekend and it him manipulating presets.....and it soun= ded so fucking good. Definitely creative. Nick S <hasnoplur@hotmail.com> wrote: ....but the creativity and using w= hat you have is taken away when u can have thousands of effects and instrum= ents with millions of presets...alot of ppl arent really creating their own= sound anymore, they are just basically dj'ing presets. =20 Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web link= s. =20 Help yourself to FREE treats served up daily at the Messenger Caf=E9. Stop = by today! =20 Building a website is a piece of cake.=20 Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. _________________________________________________________________ Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks & Treats for You! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=3DTXT_TAGHM&loc=3Dus= --_e5d2d597-f5e3-4cc5-a221-6ac0f501649a_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html> <head> <style> .hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body.hmmessage { FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma } </style> </head> <body class=3D'hmmessage'> what i was getting at is i make my own presets, rather then flipping thru h= undreds of presets that come with vst flavor of the week at kvr.<br><br><bl= ockquote><hr>Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 14:54:45 -0700<br>From: sbx_100@yahoo.co= m<br>Subject: RE: {pb-cle} Superstar DJ's<br>To: hasnoplur@hotmail.com; pb-= cle-raves@hyperreal.org<br><br>Couple points:<br>drum maps =3D presets<br>l= ooped breakbeats =3D presets<br>Synth pads =3D presets<br><br>Even analog s= ynths have pre-set sounds that you use as a starting point.<br><br>Look man= , I'm not ripping what you're doing at all.  We're both on one of the = same Experimedia comps.  Just keep it straight that preset programming= and sounds go into your live PA, and you mix them (like a dj)  Its co= ol that you've left lots of open points for construction and deconstruction= .<br><br>I use a Machine Drum, an Electribe ESX, and an FX processor runnin= g through three channels independent channels.  The drum machines loop= through the FX and back into the FX channel.  I work with two other a= rtists with various gear.  I twist the shit out of the starting point = and end up somewhere else, but there is a starting point.  If I was mo= deling every single drum hit on every single track from scratch on the fly = it would be a dull live show, and we wouldn't have a dance vibe.  Maybe thats just me. <br><br><br><br><br><b><i>Nick S = <hasnoplur@hotmail.com></i></b> wrote:<blockquote class=3D"EC_replbq"= style=3D"margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <div style=3D"text-ali= gn: left;">i dont know how u do a live set...but i dont use any presets at = all...i yeah, i setup drum maps and single cycle waveforms on my samplers(s= o i can fake classic synths i dont own)....the only thing i even use a comp= uter for live is a super basic midi sequencer(seq-303 by techno toys)to dri= ve a paia fatman(a presetless 100% analog synth)....but when i get going i = either start from a blank sequence, or a set of sequences with one pitched/= stretched breakbeat on it(pitching stretching breakbeats on the fly is impo= ssible w/ my setup, thats the only pre-production i do)...and go from there= ...all my patches, drum machine loops, and effect mixes are created 100% on the fly...when i = did live sets w/ an 808 and 909....i always started w/ the 808 and 909 in w= rite mode w/ a completely blank slate....the drums got built up and torn do= wn by hand....multiple people on this list watched me do it if u dont belie= ve me.<br></div><br><blockquote><hr>Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 10:33:48 -0700<br= >From: sbx_100@yahoo.com<br>Subject: RE: {pb-cle} Superstar DJ's<br>To: has= noplur@hotmail.com; pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org<br><br>A live PA is essentia= lly dj'ing pre-sets<br>An artists can leave themselves manipulatable loops = / pads / samples, but the drum structure will always be some preset pattern= .  Hopefully they've created good sounding pre-sets, and taken the tim= e to find a pattern that facilitates human movement but they're all "pre-se= t".<br><br>I love the fact that any sound can be twisted and contorted with= "thousands of effects" to fit into what you're creating.  Powerful tool....expansion of what can be input into your track.  I saw Thomas= Fehlman of the Orb this weekend and it him manipulating presets.....and it= sounded so fucking good.  Definitely creative.<br><br><br><br><b><i>N= ick S <hasnoplur@hotmail.com></i></b> wrote:<blockquote class=3D"EC_E= C_replbq" style=3D"margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> ....but the cr= eativity and using what you have is taken away when u can have thousands of= effects and instruments with millions of presets...alot of ppl arent reall= y creating their own sound anymore, they are just basically dj'ing presets.= <br></blockquote><br> <br><hr size=3D"1">Yahoo! 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Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13269 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2007 16:17:25 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=WOfGpHafXdTgqPk4/BbPLJptS8s4ePQYaoHAgr/LyOw=; b=pUp+lsh8hS8XG09BF8I5dr8C2z7O0eCR7YPLNSw0OCM6oS8D92RIBQZa6jDExkup45LAdK4gpUqLC2Bh3aPKQWf5KLXXLiN61vqylmkNlZnbjrbhjmwGeMRsBZ9lMMqsob+cXtMBPnCeHlPbLwj/Pdbl/x+J444EAVUFX5W+VCE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=PQQIXlcgE/Xv1kyMZ3Joe4oiAJ25i1tffb8eUF0oZLMkQWrkNNaDzyQy0xB8yQndEWp7u9opk9Felb3svy/KBQE/BHs64y87mZuyviEd0YPuPna6Nlgwox1OO7LmvQnVMGcHLvY+siaWEhclURTXhS0JV8pKmuuGquOwoCOEIuw= Message-ID: <5a9dc0d60710030917j48a7eda0p100ec4f5f68a26cd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 11:17:23 -0500 From: experimedia <experimedia@gmail.com> To: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <BAY104-W318E2B01366AC2CC9F38A0AFAF0@phx.gbl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <BAY104-W3868DB79A87DD6343D15A2AFAE0@phx.gbl> <687585.37077.qm@web33409.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <BAY104-W318E2B01366AC2CC9F38A0AFAF0@phx.gbl> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} Superstar DJ's Whats a preset? On 10/3/07, Nick S <hasnoplur@hotmail.com> wrote: > > what i was getting at is i make my own presets, rather then flipping thr= u > hundreds of presets that come with vst flavor of the week at kvr. > > ________________________________ > Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 14:54:45 -0700 > > From: sbx_100@yahoo.com > Subject: RE: {pb-cle} Superstar DJ's > To: hasnoplur@hotmail.com; pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org > > Couple points: > drum maps =3D presets > looped breakbeats =3D presets > Synth pads =3D presets > > Even analog synths have pre-set sounds that you use as a starting point. > > Look man, I'm not ripping what you're doing at all. We're both on one of > the same Experimedia comps. Just keep it straight that preset programmin= g > and sounds go into your live PA, and you mix them (like a dj) Its cool t= hat > you've left lots of open points for construction and deconstruction. > > I use a Machine Drum, an Electribe ESX, and an FX processor running throu= gh > three channels independent channels. The drum machines loop through the = FX > and back into the FX channel. I work with two other artists with various > gear. I twist the shit out of the starting point and end up somewhere el= se, > but there is a starting point. If I was modeling every single drum hit o= n > every single track from scratch on the fly it would be a dull live show, = and > we wouldn't have a dance vibe. Maybe thats just me. > > > > > Nick S <hasnoplur@hotmail.com> wrote: > > i dont know how u do a live set...but i dont use any presets at all...i > yeah, i setup drum maps and single cycle waveforms on my samplers(so i ca= n > fake classic synths i dont own)....the only thing i even use a computer f= or > live is a super basic midi sequencer(seq-303 by techno toys)to drive a pa= ia > fatman(a presetless 100% analog synth)....but when i get going i either > start from a blank sequence, or a set of sequences with one > pitched/stretched breakbeat on it(pitching stretching breakbeats on the f= ly > is impossible w/ my setup, thats the only pre-production i do)...and go f= rom > there...all my patches, drum machine loops, and effect mixes are created > 100% on the fly...when i did live sets w/ an 808 and 909....i always star= ted > w/ the 808 and 909 in write mode w/ a completely blank slate....the drums > got built up and torn down by hand....multiple people on this list watche= d > me do it if u dont believe me. > > ________________________________ > Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 10:33:48 -0700 > From: sbx_100@yahoo.com > Subject: RE: {pb-cle} Superstar DJ's > To: hasnoplur@hotmail.com; pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org > > A live PA is essentially dj'ing pre-sets > An artists can leave themselves manipulatable loops / pads / samples, but > the drum structure will always be some preset pattern. Hopefully they've > created good sounding pre-sets, and taken the time to find a pattern that > facilitates human movement but they're all "pre-set". > > I love the fact that any sound can be twisted and contorted with "thousan= ds > of effects" to fit into what you're creating. Powerful tool....expansion= of > what can be input into your track. I saw Thomas Fehlman of the Orb this > weekend and it him manipulating presets.....and it sounded so fucking goo= d. > Definitely creative. > > > > Nick S <hasnoplur@hotmail.com> wrote: > ....but the creativity and using what you have is taken away when u can > have thousands of effects and instruments with millions of presets...alot= of > ppl arent really creating their own sound anymore, they are just basicall= y > dj'ing presets. > > > ________________________________ > Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web link= s. > ________________________________ > Help yourself to FREE treats served up daily at the Messenger Caf=E9. Sto= p by > today! > > ________________________________ > Building a website is a piece of cake. > Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. > ________________________________ > Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks & Treats for You! Get 'em! --=20 www.experimedia.net From pb-cle-raves-return-90392-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 03 16:27:46 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90392-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21767 invoked by uid 1162); 3 Oct 2007 16:27:46 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21744 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2007 16:27:46 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=j0MCOh//ZDHADaxx8VlxJnHeBtOuW+ie/KKJbn7fjjA=; b=OIA/wJtHuxHU5OZsN1iFEnGkZlITjOOixx2iCnmyYBw0VSW46rD5gRUossNhvMp4/w/WkTg1/UKoK9osOULDCpwMjXHFIujVN2+waqmAtMPysajjGgb/8eikHmsbGhwiQM0W4fVrSWNPpYdfUSfALa0Cl4lfxxkbFFUyUHvRWb4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=I9owgLe6nCs9R5smlid8iknKtIPGuVBnvdqFJ2R72kDQKx2Q1a27ihY05Iwpa1CBzfa+9SPv7Pn5T36E+kPQT0r88/OY/Y4OUpVOlS4vFe+Ddm9m2IRsjQU2kvLR5ZGLDjZhm73O4sECqP5Q1pfD4rYMp163kVjblrTDCKaK2ow= Message-ID: <5a9dc0d60710030927jc499c5ch83c9063089eb95f2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 11:27:44 -0500 From: experimedia <experimedia@gmail.com> To: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <5a9dc0d60710030917j48a7eda0p100ec4f5f68a26cd@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <BAY104-W3868DB79A87DD6343D15A2AFAE0@phx.gbl> <687585.37077.qm@web33409.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <BAY104-W318E2B01366AC2CC9F38A0AFAF0@phx.gbl> <5a9dc0d60710030917j48a7eda0p100ec4f5f68a26cd@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} Superstar DJ's Point being it doesnt really matter.... drum maps =3D presets =3D the same as a live band with a real drum set setup on stage. Even live bands have a starting point, rehersals, effects presets. Hell a guitar in itself is one big preset until you run it through some effects & eq. If the debate here is electronic music performers vs live bands...its really no different. When a live band goes on stage with a drumset, guitars, bass, vocalist, keys, effects pedals with 'preset' effects, ready to dial in from song to song..preset eq settings, compresison, limiter settings...etc. Its all the same. Just in the electronic music world the musicians often have to find a way to manage all parts of the composition rather than just being in charge of one element. Now if you want to talk about presets you should have seen the Thomas Dolby show. It was like watching a roland rep demo their newest keyboard at NAMM or something. On 10/3/07, experimedia <experimedia@gmail.com> wrote: > Whats a preset? > > On 10/3/07, Nick S <hasnoplur@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > what i was getting at is i make my own presets, rather then flipping t= hru > > hundreds of presets that come with vst flavor of the week at kvr. > > > > ________________________________ > > Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 14:54:45 -0700 > > > > From: sbx_100@yahoo.com > > Subject: RE: {pb-cle} Superstar DJ's > > To: hasnoplur@hotmail.com; pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org > > > > Couple points: > > drum maps =3D presets > > looped breakbeats =3D presets > > Synth pads =3D presets > > > > Even analog synths have pre-set sounds that you use as a starting point= . > > > > Look man, I'm not ripping what you're doing at all. We're both on one = of > > the same Experimedia comps. Just keep it straight that preset programm= ing > > and sounds go into your live PA, and you mix them (like a dj) Its cool= that > > you've left lots of open points for construction and deconstruction. > > > > I use a Machine Drum, an Electribe ESX, and an FX processor running thr= ough > > three channels independent channels. The drum machines loop through th= e FX > > and back into the FX channel. I work with two other artists with vario= us > > gear. I twist the shit out of the starting point and end up somewhere = else, > > but there is a starting point. If I was modeling every single drum hit= on > > every single track from scratch on the fly it would be a dull live show= , and > > we wouldn't have a dance vibe. Maybe thats just me. > > > > > > > > > > Nick S <hasnoplur@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > i dont know how u do a live set...but i dont use any presets at all...i > > yeah, i setup drum maps and single cycle waveforms on my samplers(so i = can > > fake classic synths i dont own)....the only thing i even use a computer= for > > live is a super basic midi sequencer(seq-303 by techno toys)to drive a = paia > > fatman(a presetless 100% analog synth)....but when i get going i either > > start from a blank sequence, or a set of sequences with one > > pitched/stretched breakbeat on it(pitching stretching breakbeats on the= fly > > is impossible w/ my setup, thats the only pre-production i do)...and go= from > > there...all my patches, drum machine loops, and effect mixes are create= d > > 100% on the fly...when i did live sets w/ an 808 and 909....i always st= arted > > w/ the 808 and 909 in write mode w/ a completely blank slate....the dru= ms > > got built up and torn down by hand....multiple people on this list watc= hed > > me do it if u dont believe me. > > > > ________________________________ > > Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 10:33:48 -0700 > > From: sbx_100@yahoo.com > > Subject: RE: {pb-cle} Superstar DJ's > > To: hasnoplur@hotmail.com; pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org > > > > A live PA is essentially dj'ing pre-sets > > An artists can leave themselves manipulatable loops / pads / samples, b= ut > > the drum structure will always be some preset pattern. Hopefully they'= ve > > created good sounding pre-sets, and taken the time to find a pattern th= at > > facilitates human movement but they're all "pre-set". > > > > I love the fact that any sound can be twisted and contorted with "thous= ands > > of effects" to fit into what you're creating. Powerful tool....expansi= on of > > what can be input into your track. I saw Thomas Fehlman of the Orb thi= s > > weekend and it him manipulating presets.....and it sounded so fucking g= ood. > > Definitely creative. > > > > > > > > Nick S <hasnoplur@hotmail.com> wrote: > > ....but the creativity and using what you have is taken away when u ca= n > > have thousands of effects and instruments with millions of presets...al= ot of > > ppl arent really creating their own sound anymore, they are just basica= lly > > dj'ing presets. > > > > > > ________________________________ > > Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web li= nks. > > ________________________________ > > Help yourself to FREE treats served up daily at the Messenger Caf=E9. S= top by > > today! > > > > ________________________________ > > Building a website is a piece of cake. > > Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. > > ________________________________ > > Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks & Treats for You! Get 'em! > > > -- > www.experimedia.net > --=20 www.experimedia.net From pb-cle-raves-return-90393-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 03 16:30:20 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90393-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23915 invoked by uid 1162); 3 Oct 2007 16:30:20 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23893 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2007 16:30:20 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=efEznnsp5G3J+/Q4D+aP0oYH4uB3PCVwgZ36RvZ+C3s=; b=VKZfKp2lovnHY2BDwRivgG2gyrkZs0uZzxzg8u0EM7mDR0OT85b7fowfUwjUZWTvHk4cMhAtT/9+rG9OFRG6Zn0aySCbAn02py7KfRierdbbmH+34xl7zB51rGwl3dLyR8S6wVpEkiIHEIvMiYh/sR4QrM3fLrZ3CJZbiw/XCOw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=aG3Z6geyrMpdAW28RoDtvvs4X6Wqf59FCn2P33v24j5rnc4kkPkv1Gr59XLjdf60f4x7v25yiaDEBOEQkZtjtFnzi26keLQf/A64osCm4y9X5NUC6vbpeopNW7ZjtpKYS5GcORjHMG6rA/d1nG6l7eLMjrlO+0n9IFqBUH92nsI= Message-ID: <4703C3BD.8040806@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 12:30:53 -0400 From: trout <troutsoup@gmail.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: peebeecle <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> References: <BAY104-W3868DB79A87DD6343D15A2AFAE0@phx.gbl> <687585.37077.qm@web33409.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <BAY104-W318E2B01366AC2CC9F38A0AFAF0@phx.gbl> <5a9dc0d60710030917j48a7eda0p100ec4f5f68a26cd@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5a9dc0d60710030917j48a7eda0p100ec4f5f68a26cd@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} Superstar DJ's i like the ones that have the randomize buttons. ;P experimedia wrote: > Whats a preset? > > On 10/3/07, Nick S <hasnoplur@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> what i was getting at is i make my own presets, rather then flipping thru >> hundreds of presets that come with vst flavor of the week at kvr. From pb-cle-raves-return-90394-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 03 16:42:58 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90394-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 33080 invoked by uid 1162); 3 Oct 2007 16:42:57 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 33059 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2007 16:42:56 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=L+u0p3IAuGaXc3OtUL9oYLTMEcL6hcZq96wqm7jo3uw=; b=Ub1Uvck6mNvprleWWQW275VAFiksad4QXS/SvyH0+9Agz08biMg1dGQbp5/wcCAzMpuqhjgluYfGoll/m9Sj4D133YfqhZQlnO0hBVH4j+cA0KcgP8XYWmSQ7TdNUgnokZq3v727R9Z/2WnjGqn7Mx2CVFoFHyd/m53bRPXqa6s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=uUOySOf3NVhs/O+05Xo85iOq/jB1eSQim2bPphv+U2s/Y8Tahuktkv81w/mZN7c+wSWHSZpfjcggEeBJsvA0CH8Ck1C5AunHmCz3JS3ollXfNp6XEqiXhPhTv7yZud6XPHx4JuFJus9FMuEhbYi6PUl0rJHGGti+ujtYg9fIDiQ= Message-ID: <4703C6B1.6060709@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 12:43:29 -0400 From: trout <troutsoup@gmail.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org References: <BAY104-W3868DB79A87DD6343D15A2AFAE0@phx.gbl> <687585.37077.qm@web33409.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <BAY104-W318E2B01366AC2CC9F38A0AFAF0@phx.gbl> <5a9dc0d60710030917j48a7eda0p100ec4f5f68a26cd@mail.gmail.com> <5a9dc0d60710030927jc499c5ch83c9063089eb95f2@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5a9dc0d60710030927jc499c5ch83c9063089eb95f2@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} Superstar DJ's someone on another list said he seemed to be programming things live on the fly and quite a bit of it. would have like to have seen the show but was rather unavailable...... :/ experimedia wrote: > Now if you want to talk about presets you should have seen the Thomas > Dolby show. It was like watching a roland rep demo their newest > keyboard at NAMM or something. From pb-cle-raves-return-90395-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 03 16:51:31 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90395-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 41527 invoked by uid 1162); 3 Oct 2007 16:51:31 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 41511 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2007 16:51:30 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=+DIAwGh8Ls1Fe4/qoQSwBPs7MWQerHzfN4AZjiSLRJg=; b=KVQnOo9GUVRmXWf99eFM7uMe0SivJ1LljVqz6iGLR3v02KI0BPQuF6SypmcwU7waaEA8djOcjOwzO4upIbPxhXnk+x4dsKNyI7qYdjTUQLVn0xLO4cK0ITOhNPE8VzfRze/Yl8uoAt56N8W3ZkM4Oo1At6yVSRt29wHJF1QqGzs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=MIrApGYJS5rh3vxQZdfDQD8v+zYqD7x3KF/euomulZvOR/blAJGwC2n7DzyF1DuE4hRYjsedhzq7GZUfAbtjGpRfbN85nx0OaAqR1ZGAB+YXyIUvY3J5xoXu0qd5dWWaI6C1sptC4xxTGp5FZ7hYz67Ez1C7gihN7eEFRcVV/CQ= Message-ID: <5a9dc0d60710030951s1a1eb4bdt5a96825174ff87a7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 11:51:28 -0500 From: experimedia <experimedia@gmail.com> To: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <4703C6B1.6060709@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <BAY104-W3868DB79A87DD6343D15A2AFAE0@phx.gbl> <687585.37077.qm@web33409.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <BAY104-W318E2B01366AC2CC9F38A0AFAF0@phx.gbl> <5a9dc0d60710030917j48a7eda0p100ec4f5f68a26cd@mail.gmail.com> <5a9dc0d60710030927jc499c5ch83c9063089eb95f2@mail.gmail.com> <4703C6B1.6060709@gmail.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} Superstar DJ's Ehh. He didnt do any sound design programming on the fly. He had a trigger finger drum pad controller where he would play little percussion parts with preset drum sounds from time to time...capture them, auto quantize, and then loop them. Basic edm 101 IMO. On 10/3/07, trout <troutsoup@gmail.com> wrote: > someone on another list said he seemed to be programming things live on > the fly and quite a bit of it. would have like to have seen the show but > was rather unavailable...... :/ > > experimedia wrote: > > Now if you want to talk about presets you should have seen the Thomas > > Dolby show. It was like watching a roland rep demo their newest > > keyboard at NAMM or something. > > -- www.experimedia.net From pb-cle-raves-return-90396-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 03 16:55:41 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90396-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 46523 invoked by uid 1162); 3 Oct 2007 16:55:41 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 46506 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2007 16:55:41 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=v0tkj80mk4/ePUbRELKcaIhGUfYVWbpV8N4WfN9zuqg=; b=abqGMSS871B/gRCmiMUVEMJwtalEHDv/XRNnoA7XGnfSTSOISGz10k+/iWO/6QyiI+L3P7wbx3Xa2yvjkxPFfDeE8Z40QzIswSQaUyykidb14z/SQwXTX8/dH1Z4ZIhSemHsynTnrjGWuHWKD7dWny50zuDKQHmHUCuDNr5zN8k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=FPYqhEGOTLQNIB7LWJHXbzmfWMMbdfH2GvscE7hzDtS7M3o/TL89bRiiQThNhgrnA7/t2JuEWESsmS4d94emJS5OOYcy6qZr1iaqFFrlSDzTk/ahWRepmYvLBAZGGUZiXuB17t2qmP7/COjoNZIdnlPLYj8sd6VB/0sG91C6BnE= Message-ID: <5a9dc0d60710030955m76274c03qdb0fef5f15e7d877@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 11:55:38 -0500 From: experimedia <experimedia@gmail.com> To: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <5a9dc0d60710030951s1a1eb4bdt5a96825174ff87a7@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <BAY104-W3868DB79A87DD6343D15A2AFAE0@phx.gbl> <687585.37077.qm@web33409.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <BAY104-W318E2B01366AC2CC9F38A0AFAF0@phx.gbl> <5a9dc0d60710030917j48a7eda0p100ec4f5f68a26cd@mail.gmail.com> <5a9dc0d60710030927jc499c5ch83c9063089eb95f2@mail.gmail.com> <4703C6B1.6060709@gmail.com> <5a9dc0d60710030951s1a1eb4bdt5a96825174ff87a7@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} Superstar DJ's Anyone interested in this subject and the history of electronic live performance should definetly read this article by Robert Henke aka Monolake one of the programmers behind the Ableton Live software. Excellent article going back to the tape concert. http://www.textura.org/archives/articles/henke_liveperformance.htm Also..while you while you are at the textura site...some BSP...take a moment to read this review... http://www.textura.org/reviews/jeremybible.htm From pb-cle-raves-return-90397-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 03 17:35:39 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90397-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 83729 invoked by uid 1162); 3 Oct 2007 17:35:38 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 83705 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2007 17:35:37 -0000 Message-ID: <4703D2A4.9090109@vrillusions.com> Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 13:34:28 -0400 From: Todd <vr@vrillusions.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: peebeecle <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> References: <BAY104-W3868DB79A87DD6343D15A2AFAE0@phx.gbl> <687585.37077.qm@web33409.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <BAY104-W318E2B01366AC2CC9F38A0AFAF0@phx.gbl> <5a9dc0d60710030917j48a7eda0p100ec4f5f68a26cd@mail.gmail.com> <4703C3BD.8040806@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4703C3BD.8040806@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.3 OpenPGP: id=BC90230C Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms010004050608080207050800" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} Superstar DJ's --------------ms010004050608080207050800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Randomize preset?? b-b-b-but that's not a preset... brain.... hurting... going to... s'plode. trout wrote: > i like the ones that have the randomize buttons. ;P > > experimedia wrote: >> Whats a preset? >> >> On 10/3/07, Nick S <hasnoplur@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>> what i was getting at is i make my own presets, rather then flipping >>> thru >>> hundreds of presets that come with vst flavor of the week at kvr. > -- Todd http://www.vrillusions.com/ My PGP Key ID: 0xBC90230C --------------ms010004050608080207050800 Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; 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Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 97428 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2007 17:49:55 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=6gwKfwBxPau9BKXVqKrxKwcKF4imb1EscTHE//wMkIM=; b=oVK4zhEGHwpMS2nSwJXXz/qR+InwCGWVO8i52DkYW8GctBkm9J/4roJtodrjyqhZ0Mrd32sf+Uenbzsj0c7sRnve85jv4n6UA9ObPsZAvgOH+G1R4EmCGto2TCqsRHtOT/vAplizKYlOIfkUvj/axn86TRUOfiCm4xGwqb9ufgE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Dbo/KOe0KTQQdDfKuXktE5y7ZLKOp+dsT44S+vvVnffDWuSq4kwBYJvhinsJGvnfoZicoTuNtEwIen4LVtlTuzJzYyCpSqSf9BRRDoJTeRGIqOv6c689tKkZBNTM7yVjFrxdHcSWXBaUjk/XJ8uxFWntDfQKT+UXvIsYi8OsgKo= Message-ID: <4703D664.4070502@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 13:50:28 -0400 From: trout <troutsoup@gmail.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: peebeecle <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> References: <BAY104-W3868DB79A87DD6343D15A2AFAE0@phx.gbl> <687585.37077.qm@web33409.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <BAY104-W318E2B01366AC2CC9F38A0AFAF0@phx.gbl> <5a9dc0d60710030917j48a7eda0p100ec4f5f68a26cd@mail.gmail.com> <4703C3BD.8040806@gmail.com> <4703D2A4.9090109@vrillusions.com> In-Reply-To: <4703D2A4.9090109@vrillusions.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} Superstar DJ's the 303 has the 'feature' of pulling the batteries and letting it sit for awhile and putting em back in for random patterns!!!! Todd wrote: > Randomize preset?? b-b-b-but that's not a preset... brain.... > hurting... going to... s'plode. > > trout wrote: > >> i like the ones that have the randomize buttons. ;P From pb-cle-raves-return-90399-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 03 18:30:31 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90399-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 35491 invoked by uid 1162); 3 Oct 2007 18:30:31 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 35464 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2007 18:30:30 -0000 Message-ID: <4703DF85.7000703@vrillusions.com> Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 14:29:25 -0400 From: Todd <vr@vrillusions.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: peebeecle <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> References: <BAY104-W3868DB79A87DD6343D15A2AFAE0@phx.gbl> <687585.37077.qm@web33409.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <BAY104-W318E2B01366AC2CC9F38A0AFAF0@phx.gbl> <5a9dc0d60710030917j48a7eda0p100ec4f5f68a26cd@mail.gmail.com> <4703C3BD.8040806@gmail.com> <4703D2A4.9090109@vrillusions.com> <4703D664.4070502@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4703D664.4070502@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.3 OpenPGP: id=BC90230C Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms080002050505040806020007" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} Superstar DJ's --------------ms080002050505040806020007 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit no button required! trout wrote: > the 303 has the 'feature' of pulling the batteries and letting it sit > for awhile and putting em back in for random patterns!!!! > > Todd wrote: >> Randomize preset?? 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Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13006 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2007 20:02:58 -0000 References: <8641c6dd0709191038g67186fd2k16a65dcf55dd02ef@mail.gmail.com> To: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 16:02:52 -0400 In-Reply-To: <8641c6dd0709191038g67186fd2k16a65dcf55dd02ef@mail.gmail.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: jsruben@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8C9D40F84269326_D00_40DB_FWM-D38.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL WebMail 30978-STANDARD Message-Id: <8C9D40F84269326-D00-2036@FWM-D38.sysops.aol.com> X-AOL-IP: 205.188.162.14 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: {pb-cle} I-pod wedding advice ----------MB_8C9D40F84269326_D00_40DB_FWM-D38.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hey all, I don't post much but try to read as much as I can.? A friend is putting her wedding together and sent me a question concerning the music setup.? I wasn't sure how to answer her but it seems like there are a lot of people on these lists that might be able too.? Any advice? Thanx! Joe Her email to me: Hey Joe, I was wondering if you could give us some advice. We're planning on doing an 'Ipod' wedding, and I was wondering what equipment we'll need. I'm considering buying stuff on ebay, or renting it from somewhere. I was wondering how many watts the speakers should be, etc. ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. 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Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 43507 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2007 20:48:35 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from; bh=Z6rT5t5bbA1/puQ3ZdSQ/LsZ13kclvssERnhzQk8yQQ=; b=TlutaxofwTsmI1WtA0d3lef8rl84Aoceyf8Q7IT2/iUT8biGFWUY/Wh4XE8zIIgnUcuhcFrvVGPqEzEl4wh9l3Iw1/kJfVhsug7B1mgw2z5CZZZoJvW8BKp3NZKTcca2l4hgVzy0ocAc0G1Y+G6HYlsDVS0Zcj/SoFsCYahhc4s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from; b=FHR1u9lI8bgoLY50bJenNiJQPMw02Ba+MplgIMRuLxVWoXLdJOKplxwr9VneASvn3Hr47U3XqXv/tD+s0E4J97/sSWvyeRko6L4DUL53tA/UAFwls/vZrtuzyMud/U0eya/yJjmxSnmorEu4ke28HRY5BnPEptP9SWIdk08Fu/k= Message-ID: <47040042.6010509@pornstarstyle.com> Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 16:49:06 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: peebeecle <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> References: <8641c6dd0709191038g67186fd2k16a65dcf55dd02ef@mail.gmail.com> <8C9D40F84269326-D00-2036@FWM-D38.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <8C9D40F84269326-D00-2036@FWM-D38.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: trout <troutsoup@gmail.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} I-pod wedding advice what is an ipod wedding? jsruben@aol.com wrote: > Hey all, > > I don't post much but try to read as much as I can. A friend is > putting her wedding together and sent me a question concerning the > music setup. I wasn't sure how to answer her but it seems like there > are a lot of people on these lists that might be able too. Any advice? > > Thanx! > Joe > > > Her email to me: > > Hey Joe, > I was wondering if you could give us some advice. We're planning on > doing an 'Ipod' wedding, and I was wondering what equipment we'll > need. I'm considering buying stuff on ebay, or renting it from > somewhere. I was wondering how many watts the speakers should be, etc. From pb-cle-raves-return-90402-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 03 20:52:36 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90402-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 47675 invoked by uid 1162); 3 Oct 2007 20:52:36 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 47640 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2007 20:52:36 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=ZzLDE8IDaeE5shdhMj7kdtP8UzfpIKOj+xayzkyHPrU=; b=Kv63jH/nE1GPmIS8YORoh0Cv7wPix1dQAlFaWIuSeedsHxPLQ91NXy6S73F2Ttk8vKFa0QR/4tal6rbWHna5jpAnzR2bxXZpASN8ITAwPwJd5hqVe79wuoFpdnV+nWq3btbD5Kkkzw1SrY4B3abOeEjptD6QGxlj6iFyw+iZEUE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=MLYgBx2KtCMcLQ1WXJIf8BU/PJUKhFuDwqBQI6kUGyyWCt81xOlCxjyrHZVG0EEKv2lnqNeTMfUaUHWQGD6wH81ClXUuY3IHKforDf9a4SML3GbOtDntZq9QmnK8+Yd3JAIrrWRq0B3QkCHnZTUOlNjDVaVdxc8aOAeNa+z6UUs= Message-ID: <8641c6dd0710031352r7723ad69u49341ae132239999@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 16:52:33 -0400 From: "[mark ]" <hypnotyza@gmail.com> To: trout <troutsoup@gmail.com> Cc: peebeecle <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> In-Reply-To: <47040042.6010509@pornstarstyle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <8641c6dd0709191038g67186fd2k16a65dcf55dd02ef@mail.gmail.com> <8C9D40F84269326-D00-2036@FWM-D38.sysops.aol.com> <47040042.6010509@pornstarstyle.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} I-pod wedding advice not using a DJ - bringing your own iPod loaded up with songs you want to hear instead. m On 10/3/07, trout <troutsoup@gmail.com> wrote: > what is an ipod wedding? > > > jsruben@aol.com wrote: > > Hey all, > > > > I don't post much but try to read as much as I can. A friend is > > putting her wedding together and sent me a question concerning the > > music setup. I wasn't sure how to answer her but it seems like there > > are a lot of people on these lists that might be able too. Any advice? > > > > Thanx! > > Joe > > > > > > Her email to me: > > > > Hey Joe, > > I was wondering if you could give us some advice. We're planning on > > doing an 'Ipod' wedding, and I was wondering what equipment we'll > > need. I'm considering buying stuff on ebay, or renting it from > > somewhere. I was wondering how many watts the speakers should be, etc. > > -- "When love is gone, there's always justice. And when justice is gone, there's always force." --- Laurie Anderson, "O Superman" Blind faith in bad leadership is not "Patriotism". From pb-cle-raves-return-90403-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 03 21:06:16 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90403-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 57551 invoked by uid 1162); 3 Oct 2007 21:06:13 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 57482 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2007 21:06:08 -0000 From: XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com Message-ID: <c3e.1e7d8402.34355e2d@aol.com> Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 17:05:49 EDT To: JsRuben@aol.com, pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1191445549" X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 102 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} I-pod wedding advice -------------------------------1191445549 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You guys thought I said some stupid shit. 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Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 62487 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2007 21:12:24 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=SfDDSbZ3HbRLYj3cYq0pccWeZzPLfMY2GEuHdFyEwGs=; b=No3+U4b/mxB/VhE4PRblr+5vTVm6bq1PLQ0yLXbEa0wLB2pEcx9Qli8qlfbZ84EkEVuazOzp5wyE/YhyhE3sBUZ2IDerPARtrCU8F8vnCcihIPAFfAl6OzIopQjJw0y/2xtlSxkg29NKMl39mmLVab+/LNxboqMHvYvLB4edmdA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=b/fITRv7iqy7FRyJrlNt/4HlGUcmeS/OtCPDB4qW4qwnW8BC0HsrPNNH8qCYfkcnImUxy0M8pxNx0VuI1mqozyBsI3iU8WrEEEX39JjQZ2CHxsA8MEJfqBjdHO1kn3osI5bnB9sa6no7aRoLSZ+9iOEReq9sgVGLviWLEvmpE7c= Message-ID: <470405D8.401@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 17:12:56 -0400 From: trout <troutsoup@gmail.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: peebeecle <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> References: <8641c6dd0709191038g67186fd2k16a65dcf55dd02ef@mail.gmail.com> <8C9D40F84269326-D00-2036@FWM-D38.sysops.aol.com> <47040042.6010509@pornstarstyle.com> <8641c6dd0710031352r7723ad69u49341ae132239999@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8641c6dd0710031352r7723ad69u49341ae132239999@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} I-pod wedding advice would be more fun having the guests bring in all their ipods and having someone randomly play stuff offa em [mark ] wrote: > not using a DJ - bringing your own iPod loaded up with songs you want > to hear instead. From pb-cle-raves-return-90405-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 03 21:13:54 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90405-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 63991 invoked by uid 1162); 3 Oct 2007 21:13:54 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 63969 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2007 21:13:53 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=BgKnuoSu0DSS5au1xEnvF7TSpD2trcAqqRNmm5JMuXY=; b=p4ofwbEcpObZFutgZ2os0dBCTQsfrF0jBPCgfnjwmE0SNgrk417p3zWM7vG7BPt7+GFOfDBF2Fyt6c2hdP0SaQm4ofPXd2nyK9TndLeXosJGLXUhcX13HQfX3wqvrxGxk/zCsTBSVBvAExHjkNGK2pKXJK/bboFagQ/PaJgbHvk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=LLX8DXExSIcMeuO6UbSdfclBmM9/kMtBrpFljWHurWXPi6siSmiaLTK1XUJPG/cAgFTCLKjfisZJUhyL7z74GOwz4OM/yjQ8+Ua8wBk2kA3wowPYRpWVu9Fc1iP7KeNeQxuYnzgtjEbb1R7eyDliR9idvb1eos93N22vhohEN+w= Message-ID: <8641c6dd0710031413g3eadca99w438b08da47a3ee28@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 17:13:51 -0400 From: "[mark ]" <hypnotyza@gmail.com> To: "XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com" <XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com> Cc: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <c3e.1e7d8402.34355e2d@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <c3e.1e7d8402.34355e2d@aol.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} I-pod wedding advice I've seen a number of wedding DJ's. The vast majority of them suck ass, eat your food, take your money, and don't pay a damn bit of attention to what you (the bride and groom) actually want. I think this is a valid solution to that problem. m On 10/3/07, XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com <XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com> wrote: > > > You guys thought I said some stupid shit. > I will program your Ipod with a wedding set for $500 > > > ________________________________ > See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. -- "When love is gone, there's always justice. And when justice is gone, there's always force." --- Laurie Anderson, "O Superman" Blind faith in bad leadership is not "Patriotism". From pb-cle-raves-return-90406-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 03 21:42:43 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90406-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 81462 invoked by uid 1162); 3 Oct 2007 21:42:43 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 81442 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2007 21:42:42 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=P5S6tUAC4cL5W1zC+2tZ/W++Vs0GBf5vMKrDoVzSu90=; b=qKGNIQ1wvqJISlQK8RV9VUsCnMDx+vE3PHXpwjHPMhX2XaoRtk0xzQjgnNmFFNQTmi4SFl24MUSCqd686eCAR2UokDe3HVvWcNl1YURqWE9+/qOhokQ/Tz9jtIHwZOZFXXNZXYym/UmfWMwfv/NtIik/LCURcx47nnr9tHRt6To= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=t+WJmPMuvb7FggM387A9aPZaXSW1YsCGgplXEpTc6oMD5TL17gE2Ua12hwXfny5yQkhHTxigewTA+x+stN9DHPQhpalbo25tv+R1I9hJ+wI13nYZuZN3LSArgWY4w0i7D2HeJjXXz8xGyXMQEKc9RVk+XavtYdZKOF60Me2rkeU= Message-ID: <8641c6dd0710031442s214d3ab1k418fc672a063f40d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 17:42:40 -0400 From: "[mark ]" <hypnotyza@gmail.com> To: trout <troutsoup@gmail.com> Cc: peebeecle <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> In-Reply-To: <470405D8.401@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <8641c6dd0709191038g67186fd2k16a65dcf55dd02ef@mail.gmail.com> <8C9D40F84269326-D00-2036@FWM-D38.sysops.aol.com> <47040042.6010509@pornstarstyle.com> <8641c6dd0710031352r7723ad69u49341ae132239999@mail.gmail.com> <470405D8.401@gmail.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} I-pod wedding advice the prospect of this is absolutely frightening. i can see grandma and grandpa busting a move to "It Takes A Nation of Millions To Hold Us Back", and Aunt Betty Sue up on the table calling for a rewind on some old '95 ragga. of course, the other side of that coin is equally frightening: Uncle Jimbo bringing in Frankie Yankovic's Greatest Polka Hits might make for an early night.... m On 10/3/07, trout <troutsoup@gmail.com> wrote: > would be more fun having the guests bring in all their ipods and having > someone randomly play stuff offa em > > [mark ] wrote: > > not using a DJ - bringing your own iPod loaded up with songs you want > > to hear instead. > -- "When love is gone, there's always justice. And when justice is gone, there's always force." --- Laurie Anderson, "O Superman" Blind faith in bad leadership is not "Patriotism". From pb-cle-raves-return-90407-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 03 21:53:09 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90407-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 88174 invoked by uid 1162); 3 Oct 2007 21:53:08 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 88153 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2007 21:53:07 -0000 From: XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com Message-ID: <d60.138c04ec.34356939@aol.com> Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 17:52:57 EDT To: hypnotyza@gmail.com CC: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1191448377" X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 102 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} I-pod wedding advice -------------------------------1191448377 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/3/2007 5:15:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, hypnotyza@gmail.com writes: I've seen a number of wedding DJ's. The vast majority of them suck ass, eat your food, take your money, and don't pay a damn bit of attention to what you (the bride and groom) actually want. That's why you hire a reputable one that will listen to what you want. A rave list is the last place I expected to see people interested in fucking a dj out of a job. Then again I guess just as technology killed the rave scene it might as well kill the rest of the djs while its at it. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -------------------------------1191448377 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3DUS-ASCII"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16527" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY id=3Drole_body style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY:=20= Arial"=20 bottomMargin=3D7 leftMargin=3D7 topMargin=3D7 rightMargin=3D7><FONT id=3Drol= e_document=20 face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D2> <DIV> <DIV>In a message dated 10/3/2007 5:15:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,=20 hypnotyza@gmail.com writes:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"><= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>I've=20 seen a number of wedding DJ's.<BR>The vast majority of them suck ass, eat=20= your=20 food, take your money,<BR>and don't pay a damn bit of attention to what yo= u=20 (the bride and<BR>groom) actually want.<BR></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV>That's why you hire a reputable one that will listen to what you w= ant.=20 A rave list is the last place I expected to see people interested in fucking= a=20 dj out of a job. 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Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 94892 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2007 22:05:15 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=yNGAFKTyTG4ibpm8wnviRh5HuWrrw9NPPLdgnNOoFba3oCXnG1WU269f6/WNezh4DUdXYlhQAASsRBcpQq587wSoMFMEf2lRAkuzA4SmpK2RkVtiqWrDw0c5MaJC0N1edUBns/6n+jfjvO3uvWZRYWbQ8W1v9MA3LEAoY1yFjdc=; X-YMail-OSG: tkDFGiIVM1k54k_prHish8VOBHygA_xkS4rE.LgTr4KTobBg4uC5nY3VfFJ9efu4NGKxq.tbsHAGzdK0i47kotuH.YxIVMh..F.PZeqTN.Ukv7Qv1.eKYVPVFkx0CVwDV4HTdSlQDVrnrwAayKh6l.d2 Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 15:05:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Amanda von Schtupp <a_yesko@yahoo.com> To: "pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org" <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> In-Reply-To: <8641c6dd0710031442s214d3ab1k418fc672a063f40d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1433685983-1191449114=:18598" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <199913.18598.qm@web54005.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} I-pod wedding advice --0-1433685983-1191449114=:18598 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit HEY! Lay off Frankie Yankovic! He is the KING of polka!!! -- Amanda, proud de-virginizer (did I just make up a word?) of Anthony Frank Yankovic III (great grand-nephew) "[mark ]" <hypnotyza@gmail.com> wrote:Uncle Jimbo bringing in Frankie Yankovic's Greatest Polka Hits might make for an early night.... --------------------------------- Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! --0-1433685983-1191449114=:18598 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit HEY! Lay off Frankie Yankovic! He is the KING of polka!!!<br><br><br>-- Amanda, proud de-virginizer (did I just make up a word?) of Anthony Frank Yankovic III (great grand-nephew) <br><br><br><b><i>"[mark ]" <hypnotyza@gmail.com></i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;">Uncle Jimbo bringing in Frankie Yankovic's Greatest Polka Hits might<br>make for an early night....</blockquote><br><p> <hr size=1>Catch up on <a href="http://us.rd.yahoo.com/tv/mail/tagline/falltv/evt=47093/*http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/3658 ">fall's hot new shows</a> on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! --0-1433685983-1191449114=:18598-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90409-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 03 22:12:57 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90409-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 222 invoked by uid 1162); 3 Oct 2007 22:12:57 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 205 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2007 22:12:56 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=1xMdK0jfKv8yzarVRPE82c4U8QcO94dUTzDhXjyeEYQ=; b=dKmlcDCgioggBEQBntlv555BTiCZgLHrln+DMvPUdWg43VV54DzlTlCTpP33eeH2YiU7CQPNPTDCKl2zQ1fqUh8xWpiwwMv0/Baof6jC4Xf5KhUkQv8+ywove/UtyYgZVkd6OB1Azcy1GOI5hbk5SYP1SHHmZFsz2C0oUibock4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=I83O1KLq1RSKWJ+kUYYKnR1pkXQ8FVzrbwyN6qhLoLOvu5HoY9MD9lixD2Rt/+ehsSpfeagn+VAsH+Ax0/9PwkfUi82F/tFCCWVTEhWEsTiLc9s4+KlQvfe2TnrQDdyCZ1Gef74qubz43NdzBnnf+tzPQAfjJFR38y0Z9yYq0XE= Message-ID: <8641c6dd0710031512p44a21076t38ca22aa2c1fabde@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 18:12:55 -0400 From: "[mark ]" <hypnotyza@gmail.com> To: "Amanda von Schtupp" <a_yesko@yahoo.com> Cc: "pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org" <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> In-Reply-To: <199913.18598.qm@web54005.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <8641c6dd0710031442s214d3ab1k418fc672a063f40d@mail.gmail.com> <199913.18598.qm@web54005.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} I-pod wedding advice wow. you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? m On 10/3/07, Amanda von Schtupp <a_yesko@yahoo.com> wrote: > HEY! Lay off Frankie Yankovic! He is the KING of polka!!! > > > -- Amanda, proud de-virginizer (did I just make up a word?) of Anthony Frank > Yankovic III (great grand-nephew) > > > > "[mark ]" <hypnotyza@gmail.com> wrote: > Uncle Jimbo bringing in Frankie Yankovic's Greatest Polka Hits might > make for an early night.... > > > ________________________________ > Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, > and more! > > -- "When love is gone, there's always justice. And when justice is gone, there's always force." --- Laurie Anderson, "O Superman" Blind faith in bad leadership is not "Patriotism". From pb-cle-raves-return-90410-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 03 22:31:44 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90410-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13682 invoked by uid 1162); 3 Oct 2007 22:31:43 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13647 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2007 22:31:42 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=JLIUDT69yylKrMcUtHHEHYRWegMcnZ+lLE6nFzXnf2Q=; b=TfVAlRVIohrak4Ax+4ZdzIJCFULSUvdDU2lFPrtYjtC15ljsR6OhLdsrRCjayltNIBIPL4OtOf6QL2zdoXZlWMEwRHchO0Ih5E0LOUGYklkXTZAThMj4rDCb9daKuWBcvcUYBWOw8MauAIULi5wFVJmOAfDSmV0S+iS2JWhn5Ns= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=b0oxiE9hK20zsD4q+A/UlQK/h/Q/lxqZHhfapdn1yFBRr+LKzkyKVLDK/BoPvQ2FlGllIvS4DMGeT8fkevQyzAdSEIO/NalJmAzj0JZgOWIxr7QGIyTHIZM/1ohVEeTUv/ANbCqcZGzsmFpwLPQOuutB28qusa4PsUYgnFSAfJ4= Message-ID: <8641c6dd0710031531l28e8ec4ch52bcd54884c20219@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 18:31:40 -0400 From: "[mark ]" <hypnotyza@gmail.com> To: doodoostank <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: {pb-cle} a bargain!!! buy Danny Teaglia's "spaceship dj booth" - for a paltry $25 G's... http://www.flickr.com/photos/sotek/1462834732/ (click "all sizes" for a human-readable sized version of the image) m -- "When love is gone, there's always justice. And when justice is gone, there's always force." --- Laurie Anderson, "O Superman" Blind faith in bad leadership is not "Patriotism". From pb-cle-raves-return-90411-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 03 23:24:24 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90411-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 43454 invoked by uid 1162); 3 Oct 2007 23:24:23 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 43424 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2007 23:24:22 -0000 Message-ID: <2737.166.89.3.72.1191453862.squirrel@166.89.3.72> In-Reply-To: <8641c6dd0710031413g3eadca99w438b08da47a3ee28@mail.gmail.com> References: <c3e.1e7d8402.34355e2d@aol.com> <8641c6dd0710031413g3eadca99w438b08da47a3ee28@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 19:24:22 -0400 (EDT) From: bjn@funkyclouds.com To: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Importance: Normal X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} I-pod wedding advice > I've seen a number of wedding DJ's. > The vast majority of them suck ass, eat your food, take your money, > and don't pay a damn bit of attention to what you (the bride and > groom) actually want. Guess you weren't at my wedding. My DJ rocked it :) From pb-cle-raves-return-90412-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 03 23:41:36 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90412-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 51968 invoked by uid 1162); 3 Oct 2007 23:41:35 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 51949 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2007 23:41:34 -0000 Message-ID: <3288.166.89.3.72.1191454894.squirrel@166.89.3.72> In-Reply-To: <8C9D40F84269326-D00-2036@FWM-D38.sysops.aol.com> References: <8641c6dd0709191038g67186fd2k16a65dcf55dd02ef@mail.gmail.com> <8C9D40F84269326-D00-2036@FWM-D38.sysops.aol.com> Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 19:41:34 -0400 (EDT) From: bjn@funkyclouds.com To: jsruben@aol.com Cc: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Importance: Normal X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} I-pod wedding advice Joe, The size of your system is going to depend on how large your room is and how loud you want the music. Think is goes something like: amplification power = sqft of space - (average age of attendees - 18) ^2 Consult with a place that rents professional audio equipment. Tell them what you're trying to do and they should be able to recommend the right equipment. > Hey all, > > I don't post much but try to read as much as I can.? A friend is putting > her wedding together and sent me a question concerning the music setup.? I > wasn't sure how to answer her but it seems like there are a lot of people > on these lists that might be able too.? Any advice? > > Thanx! > Joe > > > Her email to me: > > Hey Joe, > I was wondering if you could give us some advice. We're planning on doing > an 'Ipod' wedding, and I was wondering what equipment we'll need. I'm > considering buying stuff on ebay, or renting it from somewhere. I was > wondering how many watts the speakers should be, etc. > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - > http://mail.aol.com > From pb-cle-raves-return-90413-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 04 11:13:05 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90413-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 84612 invoked by uid 1162); 4 Oct 2007 11:13:04 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 84445 invoked by uid 1162); 4 Oct 2007 11:13:02 -0000 Date: 4 Oct 2007 11:13:02 -0000 Message-ID: <20071004111302.84442.qmail@hyperreal.org> From: trout@hyperreal.org To: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Subject: {pb-cle} R.O.M.10.04.07 -=<O>=---------------------------------------------------------------=<O>=- The Pittsburgh-Cleveland-Toronto Rave-0-Matic mkIV Maintained by Trout Soup Under the same management since 1996 -=<O>=---------------------------------------------------------------=<O>=- Originating from crAkron, a place neither Pittsburgh or Cleveland! I consider the PB-CLE area as far west as Columbus and Dayton and as far east as State College. Maybe more, maybe less! I'm now including some Buffalo, Detroit, and DC events in the ROM, as well as some somewhat related concert events. I'm also now listing toronto since pittsburgh and cleveland seem to have a total lack of events. i have removed the weeklies from the mailer, but they are still listed on the web site. * This list is not for redistribution or publication without permission * The region i list is approximately 4 hours driving time from Akron, Ohio. I do list events farther than this if they are special in some way and might be of interest to people in the pbcle region. I take no responsibility for the accuracy of the information here as i'm mostly relaying it from email or typing it in from a flyer (typos *DO* happen), but will gladly fix any errors or omissions, just let me know! The web page is updated throughout the week, you can check that for the latest information. http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/rom/ set your bookmarks appropriately :) Submissions, flames, threats, hot graver pictures, and your credit card numbers to: trout@hyperreal.org -=<O>=---------------------------------------------------------------=<O>=- Thu Oct 04 TOKYO Pittsburgh Fri Oct 05 FUNDAMENTAL FRIDAYS Dubois Sat Oct 06 BANG Philli Sat Oct 06 BRYAN SAUNDERS Dayton Oct 05-07 PROPHECY SW Ohio Sat Oct 06 RAVER DAY AT THE ZOO Pittsburgh Sun Oct 07 BRYAN SAUNDERS Cincinnati Thu Oct 11 COLETTE Cleveland Fri Oct 12 JOHN ACQUAVIVA Detroit Fri Oct 12 DONT BE SCURRED Pittsburgh Sat Oct 13 BALANCE Detroit Sat Oct 13 DARA Akron Sat Oct 13 THAT EPIC PARTY Pittsburgh Wed Oct 17 FUZZ Pittsburgh Fri Oct 19 LEGENDZ REVENGE Columbus Sat Oct 20 BASE MAGAZINE RELEASE PARTY Cleveland Sat Oct 20 CHRISTOPHER LAWRENCE Columbus? Sat Oct 20 HOME BASS 2 Pittsburgh Sat Oct 20 MONSTER MASH BOAT CRUISE SW Ohio Sat Oct 20 RICH KORACH Cleveland Sat Oct 20 SHAZZZAM 2 Detroit Sat Oct 20 THE GROOVE RETURNS SW Ohio Fri Oct 26 KASKADE Cleveland Fri Oct 26 MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE PREPARTY Cleveland Fri Oct 26 TRICK R TWEAK Lorain Sat Oct 27 CHINATOWN INN HALLOWEEN PARTY Pittsburgh Sat Oct 27 FREAKOUT 2007 Toronto Sat Oct 27 IRENE Columbus? Sat Oct 27 MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE 2 Akron Sat Oct 27 TRIPLE THREAT Detroit Sun Oct 28 DARUDE Dayton Fri Nov 02 JUNGLE JUICE 8 YR ANNIV Detroit Sat Nov 03 TRANCEFORMERS Akron Sat Nov 10 21 GUN SALUTE Toronto Sat Nov 10 KONSPIRACY Detroit Sat Nov 10 PARTY MONSTER pgh? Fri Nov 16 SUBSTANCE Cleveland Sat Nov 17 BOUNCE 3 Pittsburgh Fri Nov 30 HARD BEATZ WITH A VENGEANCE Pittsburgh ??? Nov ?? SOME AKRON THING crAkron Mon Dec 31 MAGIC CARPET Detroit Jul 18-19, 2008 HULLA REUNION 2008 Toronto varied TROUTS PICKS varied -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Thu Oct 04 TOKYO Pittsburgh Cover: $5 Time: 9pm-2am Drinks: $1 Miller Lites until 2am / $2 Smirnoff Drinks until 11pm DJs: Sine, B.Dee, Kyle Adams, Paul Alexander Tokyo is a new Thursday night monthly kicking off October 4th, and will happen on the first Thursday of each month afterwards. The first night will feature Tokyo's resident DJs, keeping the format smooth to get your weekend started early. Tokyo will be featuring nationally known headliners in the future as well. Opening kicks off at Diesel - 1601 E. Carson St. in the Southside of Pittsburgh. http://www.tokyopgh.com http://www.myspace.com/t_o_k_y_o_n_i_g_h_t <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-04-tokyo.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Fri Oct 05 FUNDAMENTAL FRIDAYS Dubois <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-05-fundamental_fridays.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Oct 06 BANG Philli oct 6th LOCAL 13 presents bang philly keep your eyes posted to local13.com for more info <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-06-bang.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Oct 06 BRYAN SAUNDERS Dayton Saturday October 6th @ Jono, Katie, and Luke's house! 122 South Philadelphia, Dayton OH BRYAN SAUNDERS - Johnson City TN "stand up tragedy" spoken word, youtube for more videos http://youtube.com/results?search_query=bryan+saunders this stuff is intense and engaging, sampled earlier this year by Sage Francis http://www.myspace.com/mrbrainsander BEING - Muncie IN recently relocated to Dayton, harsh smashing noise http://www.myspace.com/beingsound JONO - of Tonight Golden Curls, solo. ROBERT INHUMAN - collab performance TBA.... 10pm, donations, all ages! -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Oct 05-07 PROPHECY SW Ohio <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-06-prophecy.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Oct 06 RAVER DAY AT THE ZOO Pittsburgh This Saturday @ Noon Phoenix Management is paying for EVERYONE to go to the Pittsburgh Zoo & PPG Aquarium ! Come see the new baby tigers and the new Waters Edge exhibit on US! No Im kidding, Its really free this Saturday. We are all gonna get there at noon but the zoo is free from 9 to 5. (gates close @ 3:30) Anyone that wants to get together and invade the zoo Come out THIS SATURDAY ! ! ITS FREE !!!!!!!!!!!!! -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sun Oct 07 BRYAN SAUNDERS Cincinnati Sunday October 7th @ The Gypsy Hut 4231 Spring Grove, Cincinnati OH BRYAN SAUNDERS - Johnson City TN "stand up tragedy" spoken word, best kept secret of tennessee. REALICIDE - local contemporary hardcore http://www.geocities.com/realicide/ FOREIGN SOIL - member of Capital Hemorrhage, socially wrenching harsh noise http://www.outfallchannel.com/ 9pm show, no cover! -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Thu Oct 11 COLETTE Cleveland <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-11-colette.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Fri Oct 12 JOHN ACQUAVIVA Detroit The first installment of .Therapy. will feature John Acquaviva, former label mate of Rich Hawtin and basically a legend in the Funky House/Techno community. John has been DJing and producing for over 30 years. He regularly plays events in Italy, Spain, Switzerland and Japan while continuing to release a perpetual stream of mix CD.s that dominate play lists all over the world. w/ opening set by Shawn Michaels iLounge - 15 South Saginaw doors @ 9 - 18+ to enter drink specials until 10 tickets available @ wantickets.com & Record Time in Ferndale <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-12-acquaviva.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Fri Oct 12 DONT BE SCURRED Pittsburgh Don.t be Scurred! Friday October 12th, Pittsburgh PA The hosting MC for the evening will be none other then b.a.d. ass. own. Mc Infinity (New Ascension, Konkrete Ohio) Akron With music from. Rezon-8 (Tech-nu-funk, Focused Motives) Pittsburgh DVS (koala-tea.com, phoenix mgmt) Pittsburgh Evasion (koala-tea.com) Cleveland Dj Dubbs (Collective Consciousness, Boys of Boston) Buffalo Jake the snake w/ blunt mc (412dnb, fuzz, strength dnb) Pittsburgh Paul B (koala-tea.com) Cleveland Dez Drastic (New Ascension) Akron Eryn Evans (phoenix mgmt, sinister movement) Pittsburgh PA Arthur B (Fever productions) Youngstown COSTUME CONTEST! .and we don.t wanna see any of that fancy shmancy rented stuff either. Everyone put their thinking cap on! Lets see who can come up with the BEST homemade costume. Cash prizes to the winner & runner up, the rest. tough titty. Make-up is cool, NO store bought OR rented costumes will be allowed to enter the contest. Event located at: THE SPIRITS GALLERY 887 Progress St. Pittsburgh PA, 15212 (Pittsburgh.s North Side) Doors Open 9pm - ??? Admission: $10 This is an all ages event. NO Drugs, Weapons, Bad Attitudes or BULLSHIT R.O.A.R. in full effect. (Right of Admission Refusal) Event brought to you by: Broke Ass Dj Association (B.A.D. Ass.) Web Support: www.brokeassdjs.com www.koala-tea.com www.lolli.org www.myspace.com/brokeassdjassociation The Line: 412.542.1717 Happy belated birthday Rebecca! <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-12-dont_be_scurred.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Oct 13 BALANCE Detroit Trinity Productions presents: Balance Saturday, October 13th 2007 featuring: (Upstairs) Dj Surgeon Crtatesavers Muzic Ghetto Tech Dj Seoul Detroit Techno Militia/ Bang Tech 12/ Breakloose Electro special 2 hour set Dj Psycho Detroit Techno Militia Techno Xeroxxx D-tour Live Ghetto Tech The Thrill Seekers (Blair Emmerson + William Paul) Drum and Bass/ Breaks (Downstairs) Norm Talley Beat Down Sounds/ Third Ear Recordings House Reggie "Hotmix" Harrell WJLB Club Insomnia Resident/ Co-Host House Dwayne Jensen Fathoa/ KMS/ Soiree/ Third Ear Recordings House Bassick Disfresh House/ Speed Garage Sutter Disfresh Deep/ Funky House Dj SQaRD House located at: The FiNite 1370 Plum Detroit, Mi. 1 block East of Old Tiger Stadium $5 before 12 - $10 after free giveaways from 237am.com myspace.com/trinity of detroit <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-13-balance.front.jpg"> <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-13-balance.back.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Oct 13 DARA Akron <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-13-dara.front.jpg"> <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-13-dara.back.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Oct 13 THAT EPIC PARTY Pittsburgh That Epic Party in Pittsbugh Freak out kids... This is our lineup... Knifehandchop Belladonnakillz The Niceguys Sunrize Vapour Rukkus with MC E.N.D. Psyklone Robotpilot Darren Grant Dynamic Uno George WSR Tika RyuRy Konztant Red Ranger Otagi anyone with a canadian citizenship gets in for free This is going to be the party of the year... be there <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-13-that_epic_party.jpg"> <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-13-that_epic_party.pre.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Wed Oct 17 FUZZ Pittsburgh Big things continue in the 412 as FUZZ brings you some of the up and coming producers and deejays from here in the states: Dnb duo STYLE CONTROL (aka Will Miles and Kjell Anderson) have been making quite a name for themselves in 2007, producing tracks together as well as separately. Will, just back from his European tour, has a single forthcoming on Fabio's imprint, CREATIVE SOURCE, followed by Kjell's release on the same label. Kjell's POISONOUS E.P. on TRACKDONALDS remains in the top 10 on juno records digital download. myspace.com/theswonz myspace.com/milesahead With local support from: Preslav and Ratana- This duo has been busy at work in the studio as well. They are putting out some very nice tracks surely to be picked up by some labels soon. visit the studio at: InTheMachineAge.com Jungle Jake aka JTS- $5 Cover 21+ 10-12 $1 bottles 4412 Liberty Avenue Pittsburgh, PA 15224 -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Fri Oct 19 LEGENDZ REVENGE Columbus <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-19-legendz_revenge.front.jpg"> <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-19-legendz_revenge.back.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Oct 20 BASE MAGAZINE RELEASE PARTY Cleveland [not to be confused with bassline magazine] <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-20-base_magazine_release.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Oct 20 CHRISTOPHER LAWRENCE Columbus? <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-20-christopher_lawrence.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Oct 20 HOME BASS 2 Pittsburgh Home Bass 2 ~ October 20, 2007 Milano's 111 Market Street Pittsburgh PA 15222 DJ's: Chico NatasK Chris Nature Abduction Aaron Clark Shadowstarr 21+ venue and $5.00 at the door. <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-20-home_bass_2.front.jpg"> <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-20-home_bass_2.back.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Oct 20 MONSTER MASH BOAT CRUISE SW Ohio In the Groove is proud to present "Monster Mash" a halloween costume, birthday celebrating, fundraising boat cruise!!!! We have a lot in store for you this year...We are going to have 4 rooms of sound giving us a capacity of almost 500 people!!! We have invited a couple of other local production companies to join in the fun with us...Lingo Roecodings and Straight Up Entertainment will be hosting their own rooms this year... ------------------------------------------ In the Groove rooms will have: ------------------------------------------ Betamax - Miami Beach - Electro House www.myspace.com/betamaxdj Ai Noyp - Kansas City - House & Progressive tech http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=26689442 Love Between Equals - Cincy - Live Electro House Tease - Cincy - Progressive trance Lady Bandit - Dayton - Breaks Nautigroove - Florence Y'all - Progressive Sounds --------------------------------- Lingo Recordings room: --------------------------------- Lettow & Ice - Cincy - House William Alexander - Cincy - House Nelson - Cincy - House --------------------------------------------- Straight Up Entertainment room: --------------------------------------------- Steve Dizzle - Hills of KY - Hard Electro/House Psych - Richmond KY - Electro DJ Penetration - Cincy - D&B Vinny Bricks - Cincy - Hard Techno/House Typekast - Cincy - Minimal beats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Remember the party goes on rain or shine...The boats are covered...Bring a hoodie in case it gets cold... $15.00 16 & up with ID... 2 fully stocked cash bars on board... 1 bar on the dock before hand We start boarding @ 10;00 and shove off around midnight or at capacity... contact nautigroove with any and all questions... -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Oct 20 RICH KORACH Cleveland Richie Hawtins' favorite tag teammate in Detroit and the head of the Paxahau residents assault team responsible for bringing you the Detroit Electronic Music Festival for the past two years this will be the FIRST appearance in N.E. Ohio for any Paxamember and we are proud to host him. He has played before tens of thousands of people across the globe from Ibiza to Buenos Aires but will be just as comfortable tearing down the ceiling in Touch for us on this amazing night. And of course you'll be getting the best Tek-Know has to offer with support from Downstairs: 11 - 12 - Randomseed [Tek-Know] 12 - 1 Truck Stop Tourist [Tek-Know] 1 - Close Rich Korach [Paxahau | Detroit] Upstairs 10-11:15 - Dan Moore [Tek-Know] 11:15 - 12:30 - Funk Detective [Tek-Know,Touch] 12:30 - Close - John K [Tek-Know,Touch] Library - Konkrete Ohio Jocelyn D [Bassline Magazine, DBE, Chronic Camp,www.jocelyndee.com | Toranto] Stevie P [Collaborations] Robtronix [Konkrete Ohio,Koala-tea] N:Coder [Konkrete Ohio,Vibe Prod ] <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-20-rich_korach.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Oct 20 SHAZZZAM 2 Detroit yo whats up its about that time,I'm throwing another party Sat oct 20th in Detroit.This is the internet promo,to give you an ideal,we are expecting 2-3 thousand people,It will be the best party of the year, I would like to invite you and your crew out personally,I hope you can make it and experience something incredible. Flyers and real detroit ads coming soon Info and directions 313-633-7070 <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-20-shazzzam_2.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Oct 20 THE GROOVE RETURNS SW Ohio <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-20-the_groove_returns.teaser.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Fri Oct 26 KASKADE Cleveland TRU & DISCO Present: "BRING THE NIGHT TOUR" FEATURING: KASKADE (kaskademusic.com | Ultra Records | San Fran.) Oprning Set Provided By: Evan Evolution (Tru | Disco | Spin Cycle) When: Friday Oct.26.2007 Where: Sinergy Nightclub Address: 1213 West 6th Street (Warehouse District) City: Cleveland State: Ohio Time: 9pm-2:30am Age: 18+ Dress Code: None, Be yourself! TICKET INFO: Pre-Sale Tickets on: www.wantickets.com or Grand Poo-Bas Record Shoppe 11823 Detroit Ave., Lakewood Ohio Limited - $10 | Advance - $15 | Door - $20 VIP tickets also available, check with ticket buying locations. VIP TABLE RESERVATION: E-mail: kasredtr@hotmail.com EVENT INFO: www.myspace.com/tazmo9 www.discoproductions.org www.kaskademusic.com www.wantickets.com <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-26-kaskade.front.jpg"> <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-26-kaskade.back.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Fri Oct 26 MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE PREPARTY Cleveland Pre party line up is: Abduction Trout soup Eric Bliss Van Norman more info to come on that..... myspace.com/future_noise -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Fri Oct 26 TRICK R TWEAK Lorain Trick 'R Tweak presented by Deep Widdit Productions October 26th, 2007 Doors open @ 9pm 18 + (21 to Drink) ***Drum & Bass::All night*** ***Nice party enviroment with spooky Halloween decor*** ::Halloween Costume Contest:: The winner of this will be bringing a guest to go see DIESELBOY @ TheMetropolis on Friday, November 16th, courtesy of Koala Tea. Arriveearly if you plan on entering! Venue: The Red Parrot 538 Broadway Ave. Lorain, Ohio Line-Up: robtronix sheepdog renaldo danky dave chibbity Cover: $5 - 21+ $7 - under 21 Rules: No bad replicants, no weapons, no bad vibes & no drugs... hunt down a Deep Widdit krew member for pre-sales! http://www.myspace.com/deepwiddit <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-26-trick_r_tweak.front.jpg"> <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-26-trick_r_tweak.back.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Oct 27 CHINATOWN INN HALLOWEEN PARTY Pittsburgh Pittsburgh's most legendary Halloween party is back for it's 7th round of debauchery! This year sees the return of the PeopleNYC crew to provide an extra helping of dancefloor destruction. Please RSVP to this event RSVP Yes Maybe No Comment(s) : SPREAD THE WORD... Blog this Bulletin this Saturday, October 27th, 2007 @ Chinatown Inn Upstairs: Darren Michaels (PeopleNYC) & Matt Monroe (Humanaut) tag set Kenneth:L (PeopleNYC) & Adam Oliveri (Humanaut) tag set Clevr (Breakbeat Militia) Paul Alexander & Aaron Clark tag set (Humanaut) Quartz Marc D Downstairs: DJs GH & Underground (Pittsburgh Underground) Nolan - special hip-hop set (Focused Motives) Rezon8 (Focused Motives) As always, there will be the usual costume contest with cash prizes as well as hor'dourves on the lower level. Please think twice when creating your costume as security will confiscate all dangerous and weapon-like props. Chinatown Inn (Upper floors) 520 3rd Ave Downtown Pittsburgh, PA 15219 Doors open @ 9pm $15 Cover - 21+ w/ ID Info line: 412.248.BOOO http://www.humanaut.net Promotion by: S. Simpson, Humanaut <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-27-7th_chinatown_in_halloween.front.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Oct 27 FREAKOUT 2007 Toronto DESTINY666: FREAKOUT! Saturday, October 27th, 2007 Docks Entertainment Complex www.DESTINY666.com On Saturday, October 27th, Canada's longest running producer of head boppin' leg shakin' body bangn' smile on your face events is back once again to bring you your annual serving of Halloween madness! Destiny Productions will transform the newly sound-proofed and bass enhanced Docks Entertainment Complex into a haunted world filled with sights and sounds beyond your imagination. We will create the ultimate Halloween environment, complete with the most advanced installation of sound, lighting and visuals. Join us as scary techno, death dealing trance, evil jungle and gnarled breaks artists from around the world descend onto the shores of Lake Ontario for this spooktacular annual Halloween event. ON HALLOWEEN - THIS IS THE BIG ONE! Prepare to FREAKOUT harder than ever before! EVENT FEATURES: * - The worlds largest Alpha Dyna Cord sound system bringing you over 100 000 Watts of digital sound! * - The ultimate party environment with our most freaky Halloween decor to date * - The incredible Destiny Light, Video & Laser show you have come to expect! * - Destiny666 Best Costume Contest: Win CASH and guestlist to all Destiny events for a full year! * - Four separate rooms of pounding bass showcasing all styles of electronic music including Drum and Bass, Trance, Jungle, House, Breaks & Techno! * - Multiple, fully stocked VIP drinking areas for the 19+ * - Heated outdoor smoking and chill areas! * - The 'oldskool Destiny vibe' that can't be felt anywhere else! :THE JUNGLE DANCE CAVE: presented by Destiny & Projek ED RUSH & OPTICAL - UK GROOVERIDER - UK MC RYME TYME - UK Mystical Influence Marcus Visionary Capital J Everfresh vs Crash D-Syfa ::MCs:: Caddy Cad MC JD MC Trajady :TERRIFYING TRANCE, HAUNTED HOUSE & FREAKY TECHNO: Presented by Destiny & Terror Inc M.I.K.E. PUSH - UK FILO & PERRY - USA SAM PUNK - Germany THOMAS PENTON - USA THE BEAT FREAKERS - USA DOSE THE ALIEN - USA OS/2 Rex Manning (AKA Unabomber & Mike Conradi) NuEra Walter rosati :PUREPHUNK BREAKS THE BONES ROOM: Hosted by Purephunk Recordings & The Latest Entertainment Group CHEMICAL DJS - Vancouver D-Monic DJ Tasc Dave Saddler Red Turtle Wendy Law DJ Mez :EVIL YET STILL HAPPY HARDCORE: presented by GOODFELAS DELTA 9 - USA Frisky & Hujib Gobs the Zombie Bacchus E.N.d Psyklone Scoots Tyco Virus Xphox vs Tempest DESTINY666 BEST COSTUME CONTEST: Win Cash & Guestlist to everything Destiny & Temporal Rhythm including WEMF for an entire year! Arrive early if you plan on entering the contest! Costume categories and contest details available online @ www.destiny666.com NEED TO BUY OR RENT A COSTUME? We have arranged for special 'destiny discounts' at: Amazing Party & Costume Supply - 923 Oxford St., Etobicoke - 416.259.5959 VENUE : Destiny666: Freakout, will be taking place at The Docks Entertainment Complex 11 Polson St, Downtown Toronto. This location will create the ultimate Halloween environment, complete with the most advanced installation of Sound, Lighting and Visuals you have come to expect from Destiny. * For maps and driving directions please visit www.destiny666.com Driving directions will also be made available on our infoline 24 hours prior to the event. TICKET PRICES: $25 Early Bird (First 200 Tickets @ Numb, Play De Record) $35 Next 666 Tickets $40 Last Minute Tickets More @ Door. DESTINY events are never oversold! Last year's event completely sold out! Avoid disappointment - purchase your tickets in advance! Arrive extra early if paying at the door. ONLY purchase tickets from the official outlets listed on this flyer or the official Destiny website. We will be scanning all tickets for fakes and will not honor counterfit tickets in anyway! SUPPORT THOSE THAT SUPPORT YOU! OS & OV TICKET OUTLETS: CANADA/USA All TICKETMASTER locations across Canada & USA. Charge by phone @ 416.870.8000 or online at www.ticketmaster.ca or www.ticketmaster.com ONLINE only retailers: www.Groovetickets.com www.Ticketbreak.com TORONTO Numb - 250 Queen St W - 416.599.5424 Play De Record - 357A Yonge St - 416.586.0380 Zoam - 2503 Yonge st. - 416.494.8121 Delphic - 706 Queen St W - 416.603.3334 MISSISSAUGA \ ETOBICOKE Unicus - Square One - 905.897.6900 Amazing Party & costume - 923 Oxford St - 416.259.5959 BRAMPTON Highway Bramalea City Centre 905.799.1027 BARRIE Drop The Needle 69 Dunlop St West 705.737.4624 ORANGEVILLE The Altered Native 172 Broadway Ave., Unit #1 519.942.2828 COLLINGWOOD The Altered Native 168 Hurontario St., Unit A 705.445.0228 GEORGETOWN The Altered Native 134 Guelph St., Unit #1 905.877.7884 OAKVILLE Hustler 111 Kerr St. 905.844.1688 HAMILTON Dr. Disc 20 Wilson St. 905.523.1010 ST CATHARINES MIXED STYLES 213 St.Paul St 905 984 4442 KITCHENER Shakedown 276 King St. W 519.570.0440 LONDON >From Mars 347 Talbot Street 519.438.6277 ATTENION: Destiny prides itself on producing the highest quality electronic music events in Canada! We produce these events for a mature audience and therefore do not recommend them for those under 18 years of age. ROAR in effect - If you feel you can contribute to the positive vibe and are at least 16 years of age then you may attend. This event will feature fully stocked, licensed areas for those 19 years of age or older with proper ID. <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-27-freakout_2007.poster.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Oct 27 IRENE Columbus? <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-27-irene.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Oct 27 MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE 2 Akron <a href="http://groups.myspace.com/mastersoftheuniverse2">Myspace Group</a> 3 rooms of unbeatable sound and lights... Here is the final line up--- DJ Rectangle vs. Total Eclipse Sykopath DJ Phiction Random(seed) DVS Van Norman Hazey Zone Smartie Roc Dez Drastik Hooty Cubby Vinny Peace Doug B - Encyclopedia Brown - Nox Evasion Anthony Rich Paul B Also, a limited number of presales are available thru me get in touch with me via myspace myspace.com/rainbowjewels $20 presale $25 at the door myspace.com/future_noise for more info. <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-27-masters_of_the_universe_2.front.gif"> <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-27-masters_of_the_universe_2.back.gif"> <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-27-masters_of_the_universe_2.pre.front.jpg"> <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-27-masters_of_the_universe_2.pre.back.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Oct 27 TRIPLE THREAT Detroit The D.E.V.I.L.,Moto,313 Family, and Hardcore 313 present: TRIPLE THREAT Live Performances: Cozmic Spore Techno www.seimicdetroit.com Detroit Cignal To Noise Acid Techno www.planetdetroit.net Detroit Jesse James Min. Techno 313 Family,Night Sneak Detroit Latondrez Techno R.U.G.,313 family Detroit Module 8 Min. Techno EOC Detroit Process 42 Industrial Detroit Sonic Disturbance Tech Breaks EOC Detroit Disc Jockeys: Rob Rage(3 tables) Hard Techno Columbus Tweaker Association Columbus,OH The Disciple Drum & Bass 313 Family,Lockdown Records Detroit,MI DMOND Hard Techno Hardcore 313, 313 Family Detroit ACO Hard Techno Hardcore 313 Detroit Gary G Techno Melodies & Memories Detroit Wafflestomper Hardcore/Freeform Diehard,Hardcore 313 Detroit Damselfly Gabber/Hardcore Hardcore 313 Detroit Dr. Whipple Freeform Hardcore 313 Detroit more TBA...... $10 w/ a costume $15 w/o Located @ Fi Nite Gallery 1370 Plum(corner of Brooklyn & plum) 18+ w/ID to enter Doors 9pm-When the sun comes up HAPPY 50th BIRTHDAY ROB RAGE!!!!! SOUND: DMOND VIDEO GAMES: 313 Family -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sun Oct 28 DARUDE Dayton 10.28.2007 KATE Worldwide proudly presents: Sanctuary @ Masque +The last sunday of every month+ sanc.tu.ary (n) . 1. a place of refuge and protection in a troubled world. This month featuring: DARUDE - Finland His name is synonymous with driving beats and unrelenting energy, has been an innovator in dance music since he smashed his way onto the scene 8 years ago with his global hit track "Sandstorm" which has been featured in almost every facet of EDM Culture. He is back with yet another genre-breaking track, the debut single, .Tell Me., from his upcoming 3rd artist album, .Label This!. which is poised to rock its way up the charts and across the globe. Don.t miss out on this international super star that is sure to incite the imagination of every person in the room & leave you begging for more! Tony DeSaro & Drew Whiteted - Dayton (KATE Worldwide) Phrenzy- Dayton (Rokit Labs, KATE Worldwide) DJ Nostalgic - Dayton (Downtown Ent., KATE Worldwide) Doug Collins - Dayton (KATE Worldwide) Join us on the last sunday of every month at our Sanctuary. A place where you can let your inhibitions run wild & your wildest dreams will manifest before your eyes. With such a troubling world outside we feel it necessary to have a place for people to come to enjoy true EDM culture & truly let go. No rules, no limits, just you & the music. Time 9pm-4am Venue Club Masque *upstairs* 34 N. Jefferson St. Dayton, OH 45424 Admission $5 early bird $10 pre-sale $15 @ the door $20 V.I.P. 18+ to enter 21+ to drink w/ proper I.D. Contact/Info V.I.P. Tables & Tickets: Tony . 937.232.0980 . tony@kateworldwide.net Questions/Promotions: Jon . 937-219-6057 . director@kateworldwide.net Web Support kateworldwide.net myspace.com darude.com byassn.com hmc.fi <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-28-darude.gif"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Fri Nov 02 JUNGLE JUICE 8 YR ANNIV Detroit FRIDAY NOVEMBER 2ND Jungle Juice Productions and Breakloose Present The Jungle Juice 8 Year Anniversary FEATURING: APHRODITE Urban Takeover, Aphrodite Records (UK) Dilemma Jungle Juice Productions/Breakloose (DET) -vs- Ronin Selecta Breakloose, Hydro, Bassdrive (AA) (Special 2 hour old school jump up set) Matt Haggerty Jungle Juice Prod.(San Diego) DJ Seoul Breakloose, D T M, Bang Tech 12 (DET) Exodus Breakloose (TOL) Teddie Breakloose (DET) Nimbus Breakloose (DET) Stonecypher Breakloose, Urban Music Refinery (DET) The Vandal Breakloose (DET) Hosted By Jungle Juices very own original Bad Boy MC PLAY & Breaklooses resident the one they call TEDDY MC Shouts go out to the orignal JJP Crew - Rampage (Matt Hagerty), Petros, & The Rude One Dutch Bwoy Doors @ 9pm 18+ w/ proper ID Cover $10 before midnight FREE JUNGLE JUICE while supplies last @ The Works 1846 Michigan Ave. Detroit, MI -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Nov 03 TRANCEFORMERS Akron <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-11-03-tranceformers.front.jpg"> <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-11-03-tranceformers.back.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Nov 10 21 GUN SALUTE Toronto Saturday, November 10, 2007 - 9:00pm to 6:00am Funhaus, 526 Queen St. West $10 advance, $10 @ door for 19+, more at door for under 19 Licensed Area, Concessions, 16+, 2 Rooms LINE UP SC@R B2B UPLIFT - Hardcore [Raw Elements UK, Raindance, History of Hardcore, Eruption 101.3fm - United Kingdom] Chiclet - Hard Trance [djchiclet.com, Viva Nightclub, Purple Heaven - Toronto, Ontario] Station aka: Opel B2B Xofer - Breaks [Embedded Entertainment, xofer.com, Goodfellaz, Deprivation Records - Toronto, Ontario] Saigon B2B Maniak - Drum & Bass [Front Left, Theory, Simpl3 - Toronto, Ontario] Scartat B2B JePh- Mungle W/Locked [De.ranged Entertainment, Biological Beats, Terror Inc., Junction Junglist - Toronto, Ontario] Sprout B2B Impact - Hardstyle [Jitterjaw, De.ranged Entertainment, D.zire Inc., Terror Inc. - Sudbury/Oshawa, Ontario] Dynamic B2B Skye - Happy Hardcore [De.ranged Entertainment, Nocturnal Commissions, Embedded Entertainment - USA.. kinda.] Gabbo - Hard Techno [Hitman Productions, Terror Inc., De.ranged Entertainment - Toronto, Ontario] Evantech - Whatever (House, breaks, ... that funky stuff) [Civil Defense, TSA, De.ranged Entertainment - Toronto, Ontario] George (Who Spins Records) - Happy Hardcore [Nocturnal Commissions, Embedded Entertainment, De.ranged Entertainment - Toronchester, Ontario] Dj Kenezo B2B DJ Tevlon D W/Mc A-Z -Jungle/Drum & Bass [Levitation - Toronto, Ont] Dj King Pin - Ragga Jungle [Ruff Plate Militia, Dub Plate Specialist - Toronto, Ont] Dj Yoshi Mojo W/MC Mensa - Drum & Bass [SolidSoldiers, yoshimojo.multiply.com - Midland] Spin laden ( the turn table terrorist) aka: Madizm - Ragga Jungle [M.U.F.F - Toronto, Ont] INFO @ 6472835474 http://www.myspace.com/derangedentertainment http://www.purerave.com/events/16483 http://www.torontojungle.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15624 -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Nov 10 KONSPIRACY Detroit Saturday, November 10th, 2007 Locked Down Entertainment presents.... K o n s p i r a c y Aaron-Carl Wallshaker Music Wilhelm K D-Version The Disciple Locked Down Ent E. Dubb Wallshaker Music Jesse James Nightsneak Brian Scott DUG Recordings/D-Version DJ Twizzler Drum & Bass Dj Gusto Nightsneak Raskalz Vinyl Vixens The Machinist Motown Depth Shane P Jazzy House Zeroxxx Detour Ent Info: $10 all night Doors open at 9pm til 6am Location: Fi-Nite Gallery 1370 Plum Detroit, MI 48207 <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-11-10-konspiracy.front.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Nov 10 PARTY MONSTER pgh? [still looking for info on this one] -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Fri Nov 16 SUBSTANCE Cleveland Koala Tea and Bad A.S.S pull together to rave it up in November. The two big rooms have been booked at Metropolis. Dieselboy will be stopping by on his CD-Release tour for "Substance D"; which is his new album being released the week of the show. More headliners will be announced. Keep it tuned here for more announcements. 20$ <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-11-16-substance.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Nov 17 BOUNCE 3 Pittsburgh <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-11-17-bounce_3.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Fri Nov 30 HARD BEATZ WITH A VENGEANCE Pittsburgh [fucking a awesome] Spirits of Change This is gonna be crazy !!!!! Spirits of Change brings you Hard Beatz with a Vengeance Friday November 30, 2007 Featuring Brisk-Hardcore (UK) DVS -hard house- Tika vs. Leash -hardcore- Vinny Peace-hard techno- Jake the Snake -jungle funk- Hooty -speed garage- More info coming soon! <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-11-30-hard_beatz_with_a_vengeance.front.jpg"> <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-11-30-hard_beatz_with_a_vengeance.back.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- ??? Nov ?? SOME AKRON THING crAkron hey, we're working on the date and whatnot. lineup is coming together. plur and sparkles - trout -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Mon Dec 31 MAGIC CARPET Detroit R.U.G. & The D.E.V.I.L. present: MAGIC CARPET 12/31/07 in Beatiful Detroit city Michigan Featuring: Brill(live pa) Drum & Bass Mad At Society Rec. Las Vegas,NV COZMIC SPORE(live pa) Acid Techno www.seismicdetroit.com Detroit,MI Tim Baker House Elephant Haus, www.planetdetroit.net Detroit,MI Other family favorites: Dj Seoul Electro Bang Tech 12,DTM,Breakloose Detroit Red Pill: Blue Pill(live pa) Acid Techno www.planetdetroit.net, 313 Family Detroit,MI Ben Wu Techno/House/Electro Bang Tech 12 Indianapolis,IN MD! w/ Teddy MC Drum & Bass www.nefarious.net,Dluv Detroit,MI The Disciple Drum & Bass 313 Family, Locked down Records Detroit,MI Wataru(3 tables,2 hours!) Techno Mad At Society Rec. Detroit,MI DMOND Vs. ACO(2 hours) Hard Techno Moto,313 Family,Hardcore 313 Detroit,MI Jesse James(live pa) Min. Techno Nightsneak Ent. Detroit,MI Uncontent(live pa & DJ) Dirty Sleazy Electro 313 Family,Mad At Society Rec. Detroit/Las Vegas,NV TS 1 Techno www.planetdetroit.net Detroit,MI Hammer Brothers(live pa) Techno www.planetdetroit.net Detroit,MI Wax Drum & Bass 313 Family,Shadowbeat Detroit,MI Donald Wahn Freeform/Hardcore Hardcore 313 Detroit,MI Damselfly Gabber/Hardcore Hardcore 313 Detroit,MI VENUE INFO TO BE POSTED ON OCTOBER 27th... Doors 9pm-6am 18+w/ID to enter $10 before midnight $15 after.$5 off with out of state ID or if you come from Ann Arbor,Kzoo,GR areas or any further north than Flint....Your ID must prove this....Info:313 721 3673 THIS IS ONLY THE BEGINNING OF THIS LINEUP....We LOVE YOU DETROIT!! -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Jul 18-19, 2008 HULLA REUNION 2008 Toronto [probably the opera house. a wonderously shittastic venue] Hullabaloo reunion 2008!!! :) Yes! there will be a Hulla next summer www.hulla.info The next Hullabaloo reunion date is the weekend of July 18th and 19th, 2008. It's hard to argue with how fast tickets sold out for OMGH, but the party itself was such a critical and emotional success we decided to seize the left over feelings in the air and mark that date for a future reunion party. Hulla will forever be officially .over. but it was really nice to revisit it, as well as welcome a whole new generation of Hulla Ravers into the fold and we look forward to doing it one more time. The other thing is that Hullabaloo has turned into a global party, attracting patrons from all over the world, so it seemed prudent to let people start making their plans now since there could be significant investment by some in getting here. More details about the party and weekend won.t be made until early 2008, but after talking to many patrons about their need to plan ahead I.ve come up with an optional way to hold a ticket for the next event. Announcing the Hulla Friend Membership. - $25 discount off our 2008 reunion event tickets! (So ultimately you pay nothing) - Tickets for Hulla Friends go on sale ONE WEEK before regular availability (no mayhem on ticket day) - 20% discount code for all Hullabaloo box sets from the HullaStore (not including OMGH or DVD). - Special mailing list that will keep you updated on all Hulla event news - You will get sent a link to the new flyer 24 hours before it goes public (expected Feburary 2008). The price is $25, which as noted is deducted from your ticket purchase when they go on sale. There.s also some more free bonuses: If you buy your Hulla Friend Membership with the OMGH and/or Hulla DVD you get 2 FREE BONUS CDs (a $30 value!): Anabolic Frolic live @ Hullabaloo Accelerator - This was a test run for a "Happy2bHardcore LIVE" project that never saw release. A complete pro-tools live audience recording putting you right into the party. This set was also notable since it contained the Frolics' baby announcement! Anabolic Frolic @ MC Storm live @ Hullabaloo WEMF Stage 2002. The last ever Hulla stage at WEMF went down in history with Frolic & Storm together again, and the famous marriage proposal at the end of the set! Both these CDs are out of print and this is your only way to get them. They're yours free (a $30 value!) for anyone adding a Hulla Friend Membership to their OMGH box set and/or DVD order. Only a limited number of Hulla Friend Memberships will be sold and this offer can be rescinded at any time. It's not our intention to sell-out next year's Hullabaloo reunion before tickets even go on sale so we will cut these off at any time. But for those of you that get in before they're gone you're getting a great value and you can mark next year's date off the calendar knowing you've got a head start on tickets. We.ll also be using a new ticketing system for next year.s event which won.t falter under the volume of orders, so we expect tickets to sell out even faster (in hours, or even minutes?), so this will give you some breathing room. Hulla Friend Memberships go on sale tomorrow (August 2nd) at the HullaStore, along with pre-orders of the OMGH box set of recordings and Hulla DVDs -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- varied TROUTS PICKS varied trout's picks,,,,, these are a list of random things that aren't really rave/"electronica" related but might be fun in any event. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Madison Ave Art Walk (Cleveland) On Friday, October 5, 2007, MAMA(Madison Avenue Merchants Association) in conjunction with Lakewood Is Art (LIA) will launch it.s first ever MAMA LIA Art Walk. The Walk will begin at 6pm and go through 10pm. What is an Art Walk? An art walk is an event enjoyed in many communities around the country. It is a designated day and time that galleries and art studios, shops and restaurants, all join forces to create a extraordinary time for visitors to go from place to place feasting both their eyes and their taste buds as they stroll through town enjoying the best of what is offered by its artists. Local restaurants may offer Art Walk specials. Street corners and shops feature entertainment treats such as musicians and singers, jugglers and poets. It is also a splendid occasion to purchase interesting pieces of art at very affordable prices.The Art Walk process is simple . proceed at your own pace, wander into galleries and businesses that capture your fancy, stroll around a delightful area punctuated by, historic architecture, restaurants, quaint businesses and more. How do I do the Art Walk? Come to Madison Avenue and pick up a Art Walk Guide, available at all participating shops and restaurants. The guide has a map locating all the featured art exhibits. And off you go! Begin anywhere, go in any order you like, visit as many as you like. All exhibits and entertainment are free of charge. Signage at the entrance to each exhibit will indicate audience age appropriateness. For advance information regarding specific exhibits, which for updates to our website! What can I expect from this Art Walk? Be prepared to be surprised by the wide array of artistic styles that are represented this evening in businesses," from landscapes to cutting-edge contemporary, from paintings to pottery. The Art Walk will keep you on your cultural toes!An Art Walk is also a great place to "people watch." Sure, artists may be "guested" at individual "gallery" receptions, or demonstrating their work, but the art-walking public itself offers up a wide slice of life, a mix of locals and visitors of all kinds.Art Walk participants in cities from Tremont to Toronto, often plan an entire evening that combines an Art Walk with a foray for drinks, dining or the theater. So, complete your evening with a visit to one of the many eateries, or clubs. Join the fun, become part of the Madison Avenue art scene, and Art Walk with us! If you would like to participate as an artist, a performer or a volunteer, contact rkoenigsmark@yahoo.com or call 216.521.2894 --------------------------------------------------------------------- zombiefest 2007 - oct 27-28 http://www.theitsaliveshow.com/Zombiefest2007.htm --------------------------------------------------------------------- april 4-8, 2008 - http://www.notacon.org/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- armageddicon III - http://animepunch.org/ -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- compiled, but not necessarily current, as of Thu Oct 4 07:13:02 EDT 2007. -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90414-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 04 14:11:24 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90414-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21039 invoked by uid 1162); 4 Oct 2007 14:11:23 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21019 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2007 14:11:23 -0000 Message-ID: <4704F43E.5080104@vrillusions.com> Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 10:10:06 -0400 From: Todd <vr@vrillusions.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: peebeecle <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> References: <8641c6dd0709191038g67186fd2k16a65dcf55dd02ef@mail.gmail.com> <8C9D40F84269326-D00-2036@FWM-D38.sysops.aol.com> <47040042.6010509@pornstarstyle.com> <8641c6dd0710031352r7723ad69u49341ae132239999@mail.gmail.com> <470405D8.401@gmail.com> <8641c6dd0710031442s214d3ab1k418fc672a063f40d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8641c6dd0710031442s214d3ab1k418fc672a063f40d@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.3 OpenPGP: id=BC90230C Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms030903020604070203080709" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} I-pod wedding advice --------------ms030903020604070203080709 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit And then have people like trout that would have ALL of that on the same ipod with some rockabilly, gabber, oldschool country [sic], techno, speedcore, gabber, and pretty much everything else. [mark ] wrote: > the prospect of this is absolutely frightening. > > i can see grandma and grandpa busting a move to "It Takes A Nation of > Millions To Hold Us Back", and Aunt Betty Sue up on the table calling > for a rewind on some old '95 ragga. > > of course, the other side of that coin is equally frightening: > > Uncle Jimbo bringing in Frankie Yankovic's Greatest Polka Hits might > make for an early night.... > > m > > On 10/3/07, trout <troutsoup@gmail.com> wrote: >> would be more fun having the guests bring in all their ipods and having >> someone randomly play stuff offa em >> >> [mark ] wrote: >>> not using a DJ - bringing your own iPod loaded up with songs you want >>> to hear instead. > > -- Todd http://www.vrillusions.com/ My PGP Key ID: 0xBC90230C --------------ms030903020604070203080709 Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME 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Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 31148 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2007 14:23:07 -0000 Message-ID: <4704F707.9080408@vrillusions.com> Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 10:21:59 -0400 From: Todd <vr@vrillusions.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org References: <8641c6dd0709191038g67186fd2k16a65dcf55dd02ef@mail.gmail.com> <8C9D40F84269326-D00-2036@FWM-D38.sysops.aol.com> <3288.166.89.3.72.1191454894.squirrel@166.89.3.72> In-Reply-To: <3288.166.89.3.72.1191454894.squirrel@166.89.3.72> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.3 OpenPGP: id=BC90230C Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms010006070404020701010501" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} I-pod wedding advice --------------ms010006070404020701010501 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Also make sure they only use the highest audiophile cables http://www.pearcable.com/sub_products_anjou_sc.htm bjn@funkyclouds.com wrote: > Joe, > > The size of your system is going to depend on how large your room is and > how loud you want the music. > > Think is goes something like: > amplification power = sqft of space - (average age of attendees - 18) ^2 > > Consult with a place that rents professional audio equipment. Tell them > what you're trying to do and they should be able to recommend the right > equipment. > > > >> Hey all, >> >> I don't post much but try to read as much as I can.? A friend is putting >> her wedding together and sent me a question concerning the music setup.? I >> wasn't sure how to answer her but it seems like there are a lot of people >> on these lists that might be able too.? Any advice? >> >> Thanx! >> Joe >> >> >> Her email to me: >> >> Hey Joe, >> I was wondering if you could give us some advice. We're planning on doing >> an 'Ipod' wedding, and I was wondering what equipment we'll need. I'm >> considering buying stuff on ebay, or renting it from somewhere. I was >> wondering how many watts the speakers should be, etc. >> >> >> ________________________________________________________________________ >> Email and AIM finally together. 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Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 74968 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2007 17:58:48 -0000 From: XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com Message-ID: <c0c.1faef978.343683a1@aol.com> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 13:57:53 EDT To: trout@hyperreal.org, pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1191520673" X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 5001 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} R.O.M.10.04.07 -------------------------------1191520673 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Holy Freak Out 2007....I probably can't cross the border any ways...do you need a passport now? How bad is customs since 911? Think they would find out and not let me into Canada because I'm a felon? 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Destiny, Delta9, Ed Rush and=20 Optical...that's what I'm talking about for=20 Halloween.</DIV></FONT><BR><BR><BR><DIV><FONT style=3D"color: black; font: n= ormal 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF;"><HR style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 10px">See what's new=20= at <A title=3D"http://www.aol.com?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001170" href=3D"http:= //www.aol.com?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001170" target=3D"_blank">AOL.com</A> and= <A title=3D"http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001169" hr= ef=3D"http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001169" target= =3D"_blank">Make AOL Your Homepage</A>.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> -------------------------------1191520673-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90417-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 04 18:49:37 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90417-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 42799 invoked by uid 1162); 4 Oct 2007 18:49:37 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 42764 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2007 18:49:36 -0000 From: XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com Message-ID: <bcd.15979b7f.34368fb1@aol.com> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 14:49:21 EDT To: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1191523761" X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 5001 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: {pb-cle} Canada -------------------------------1191523761 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well it looks like in 8 years I can pay $1000 and apply for an application for rehabilitation......Do they check every single person that crosses now...So I have no chance of getting lucky and just driving through like I always did before? Does every person have to fill out a declaration? ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -------------------------------1191523761 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3DUS-ASCII"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.3157" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY id=3Drole_body style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY:=20= Arial"=20 bottomMargin=3D7 leftMargin=3D7 topMargin=3D7 rightMargin=3D7><FONT id=3Drol= e_document=20 face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D2> <DIV>Well it looks like in 8 years I can pay $1000 and apply for an applicat= ion=20 for rehabilitation......Do they check every single person that crosses now..= .So=20 I have no chance of getting lucky and just driving through like I always did= =20 before? 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Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 72142 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2007 19:12:55 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=dt0HE/1XsfeULOPpCsjy4mkvMwEQ2ZqwhRznAw7sgXA=; b=ncXkDC0IqR2Trca9QtoS/fShRTUcb9p/P6akkokb/njcJCQ8fl7muFifwYMaVU4pOleU+XdgtWEPZPY0ogpulYXIUnmP1mdhBoXPXaNzYtUVxFUFeGQ83w9DwCFSmTHArKFCwzoqzmsp+wDCk/LY1dLMZtwwG/XXM2NkrkBcpjk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=QSbGSLMHnE99ZmACbu12uVLR0qQEXF23ux07altS3XpWasyjTrnfF91UPWUyNchniMcCHhq0UKBUIe1gm93TMOFHLhtaKyyvKOjeg74ITuaruuX86rBWNndN69OUyxR9jXhqVl95KgRmmfiH4+QIoD9tQekeEp0veZnlV21Fjlk= Message-ID: <8cf533f0710041212y56ee1c05qc11c508ae27b0bcf@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 15:12:54 -0400 From: "Adam Ratana" <adam.ratana@gmail.com> To: "XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com" <XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com> Cc: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <bcd.15979b7f.34368fb1@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <bcd.15979b7f.34368fb1@aol.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} Canada Can you stop using the list as your inner thought process please On 10/4/07, XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com <XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com> wrote: > > > Well it looks like in 8 years I can pay $1000 and apply for an application > for rehabilitation......Do they check every single person that crosses > now...So I have no chance of getting lucky and just driving through like I > always did before? Does every person have to fill out a declaration? > > > ________________________________ > See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. -- Adam Ratana adam.ratana@gmail.com -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90419-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 04 19:17:43 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90419-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 77425 invoked by uid 1162); 4 Oct 2007 19:17:42 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 77393 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2007 19:17:42 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=3Z6jmTNN4YPRuQbOchngd55eJcpqfLQLWe27PSJUCfk=; b=LIGNSaFDbeDfF9mNlM54XWN5874VlKTibZHCOexTq7UQs/IxVs5TuwGaHD8ANoOmM7fhqnn8no0FJegxmhs0ifPZnIAWlac+2xcA2PqG1thrySGXiWq2rFbGW8FG2ucnbWnygz0cqXDrfdfMWjC+wZ3eEy0/JcezsW+jPNs9Brc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=N7UjLJYel4QB+e6ZHFHUJeVd9PYVMZ+Ogh9ui+ZJJeDhP12nk6CSamrHvLQzQeLVG9ArUAm3maJNbyy9bRNvjfXTp9pxOnc1R02wDfAfR7B/Y4WUp9XXEQ9qV2pdvdO+Exa4vEi/ziqnp5krk/7rX27Q14jUu82VcHcYmbax1/E= Message-ID: <47053CC9.6070607@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 15:19:37 -0400 From: Dean J <talldean@gmail.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam Ratana <adam.ratana@gmail.com> CC: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org References: <bcd.15979b7f.34368fb1@aol.com> <8cf533f0710041212y56ee1c05qc11c508ae27b0bcf@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8cf533f0710041212y56ee1c05qc11c508ae27b0bcf@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} Canada Just replace "as your inner thought process" with a comma and I think we might have a consensus. Adam Ratana wrote: > Can you stop using the list as your inner thought process please > > On 10/4/07, XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com <XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com> wrote: >> >> Well it looks like in 8 years I can pay $1000 and apply for an application >> for rehabilitation......Do they check every single person that crosses >> now...So I have no chance of getting lucky and just driving through like I >> always did before? Does every person have to fill out a declaration? >> >> >> ________________________________ >> See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. > > -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90420-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 04 19:18:23 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90420-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 78962 invoked by uid 1162); 4 Oct 2007 19:18:22 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 78940 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2007 19:18:21 -0000 From: XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com Message-ID: <cf6.1bb836e4.3436966e@aol.com> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 15:18:06 EDT To: adam.ratana@gmail.com CC: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1191525486" X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 5001 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} Canada -------------------------------1191525486 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/4/2007 3:13:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, adam.ratana@gmail.com writes: Can you stop using the list as your inner thought process please Your right my bad...looks like I'm gonna breakdown and make a myspace so I can have a blog. Sorry ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -------------------------------1191525486 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3DUS-ASCII"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.3157" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY id=3Drole_body style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY:=20= Arial"=20 bottomMargin=3D7 leftMargin=3D7 topMargin=3D7 rightMargin=3D7><FONT id=3Drol= e_document=20 face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D2> <DIV> <DIV>In a message dated 10/4/2007 3:13:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,=20 adam.ratana@gmail.com writes:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"><= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>Can you=20 stop using the list as your inner thought process=20 please<BR><BR></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV>Your right my bad...looks like I'm gonna breakdown and make a myspace s= o I=20 can have a blog.</DIV> <DIV>Sorry</DIV></FONT><BR><BR><BR><DIV><FONT style=3D"color: black; font: n= ormal 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF;"><HR style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 10px">See what's new=20= at <A title=3D"http://www.aol.com?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001170" href=3D"http:= //www.aol.com?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001170" target=3D"_blank">AOL.com</A> and= <A title=3D"http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001169" hr= ef=3D"http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001169" target= =3D"_blank">Make AOL Your Homepage</A>.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> -------------------------------1191525486-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90421-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 04 19:19:18 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90421-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 79811 invoked by uid 1162); 4 Oct 2007 19:19:17 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 79792 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2007 19:19:17 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=ewsbDIE1PyVuelaWRcbBllGGPkp1JEpU/IfBjbnHZm8=; b=EU4qt2+LqPEtprSm3pweq8/nNg/Gr+SSC5k5iQJTXsMj/tRGFV8swWTbl+9QhUdhKiSJIxTK0DjXf3wLjbpnCMhbRnTt8S5Q4cNeYmu5rkOg2/hgqDt/NIk/QPqZzyB52+P2Gx/2YzHqulUXmnokK+tYsoTyDhOUstAi2EidPw8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=JIPmhpeuZKDS52d43BIQzzGfblRVRm7hGhq7DdG2+BFDF+sAoAJoPHONL3U9e2f5lvQ9LNHN2tuVd107hJBR+gZ5PAM7CfIvHjtFcKnt24y/+3Vbxv8Pm66qd/RIfk1Sw9cmD8DGEJIfaVbHq0HTsX3tL1rKDyyoZ7iugdqsTS4= Message-ID: <4071557a0710041219w183c5838g9fd8f95fab533da6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 15:19:16 -0400 From: "Kerri Smith" <faciem@gmail.com> To: pb-cle <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> In-Reply-To: <8cf533f0710041212y56ee1c05qc11c508ae27b0bcf@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <bcd.15979b7f.34368fb1@aol.com> <8cf533f0710041212y56ee1c05qc11c508ae27b0bcf@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} Canada Haaa On 10/4/07, Adam Ratana <adam.ratana@gmail.com> wrote: > Can you stop using the list as your inner thought process please > > On 10/4/07, XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com <XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com> wrote: > > > > > > Well it looks like in 8 years I can pay $1000 and apply for an application > > for rehabilitation......Do they check every single person that crosses > > now...So I have no chance of getting lucky and just driving through like I > > always did before? Does every person have to fill out a declaration? > > > > > > ________________________________ > > See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. > > > -- > Adam Ratana > adam.ratana@gmail.com > > -- > you fucked polka royalty? > did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? > > -- Kerri Smith -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90422-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 04 19:19:39 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90422-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 80261 invoked by uid 1162); 4 Oct 2007 19:19:39 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 80245 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2007 19:19:39 -0000 From: XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com Message-ID: <c73.1aac3425.343696ba@aol.com> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 15:19:22 EDT To: talldean@gmail.com, adam.ratana@gmail.com CC: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1191525562" X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 5001 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} Canada -------------------------------1191525562 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit here I'll really make your day....I'm gonna un-sub Peace out ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -------------------------------1191525562 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3DUS-ASCII"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.3157" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY id=3Drole_body style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY:=20= Arial"=20 bottomMargin=3D7 leftMargin=3D7 topMargin=3D7 rightMargin=3D7><FONT id=3Drol= e_document=20 face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D2> <DIV>here I'll really make your day....I'm gonna un-sub</DIV> <DIV>Peace out</DIV></FONT><BR><BR><BR><DIV><FONT style=3D"color: black; fon= t: normal 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF;"><HR style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 10px">See what's=20= new at <A title=3D"http://www.aol.com?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001170" href=3D"h= ttp://www.aol.com?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001170" target=3D"_blank">AOL.com</A>= and <A title=3D"http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001169= " href=3D"http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001169" targe= t=3D"_blank">Make AOL Your Homepage</A>.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> -------------------------------1191525562-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90423-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 04 19:25:16 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90423-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 85995 invoked by uid 1162); 4 Oct 2007 19:25:16 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 85969 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2007 19:25:15 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=2uOunZ3cUm4Yyq/Te+5ETYEkZMhQx2VQsnwWqC9swj0=; b=ti55AYrQI09eoZoK7gEE/mQZ2Q29x8kBSVfpc19wuvcXOaQc9DT16gsqdunGzpRr7HGDWccfRyWGpoDYBTa0Z8KnJ2ozl3uTh/uEecEnFex1Xdmi/8wQpVxwktYgHScdrpG+lKlL97Pm/ml0ucFHauF8//Wc5ep+uv3vcuE5ZUU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Zu6yYy3399duaOpr34j/c0q0tGCAU6DUG8nCFD/jUNCPzpvuY7x7T7h1DlPN1AcRgwASNsR2zlaRmBuZ9eBPfhz5eCSn50rHDIl9tCBH2Eq4Vy18Wjt7p1hlqCpRZeB+kak4Hbwor6L+Mk40fzjIAX6mqUx/5I9dJw4Z5Tpf1sM= Message-ID: <e23444c80710041225o257f16dckf623e8dd97aa2452@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 15:25:14 -0400 From: "Ed Rodgers" <ed.rodgers@gmail.com> To: "Adam Ratana" <adam.ratana@gmail.com> Cc: "XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com" <XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com>, pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <8cf533f0710041212y56ee1c05qc11c508ae27b0bcf@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_12239_12831438.1191525914368" References: <bcd.15979b7f.34368fb1@aol.com> <8cf533f0710041212y56ee1c05qc11c508ae27b0bcf@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} Canada ------=_Part_12239_12831438.1191525914368 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline i am actually kind of enjoying it... at least he/she (no known gender who is the jungle alien) is tlaking about inner monologue dealing with somewhat rave related posts. crossing the border to canada is rave related. how you stopped jnnnx and his ohpeeuum trade isnt, which is why it's good that other guy is not posting on here anymore. i mean, at least jungle alien responds somewhat to what someone is talking about... Someone: "yes, it was made on a moog synthesizer" Jungle Alien: "Shit dog, i met this guy once and his name was moog, he had these really cool eyes and the techno in his trunk made my ears smile...kthx" disjunctive, but eerily still somewhat related. On 10/4/07, Adam Ratana <adam.ratana@gmail.com> wrote: > > Can you stop using the list as your inner thought process please > > On 10/4/07, XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com <XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com> wrote: > > > > > > Well it looks like in 8 years I can pay $1000 and apply for an > application > > for rehabilitation......Do they check every single person that crosses > > now...So I have no chance of getting lucky and just driving through like > I > > always did before? Does every person have to fill out a declaration? > > > > > > ________________________________ > > See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. > > > -- > Adam Ratana > adam.ratana@gmail.com > > -- > you fucked polka royalty? > did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? > > ------=_Part_12239_12831438.1191525914368 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline <div>i am actually kind of enjoying it...</div> <div> </div> <div>at least he/she (no known gender who is the jungle alien) is tlaking about inner monologue dealing with somewhat rave related posts.</div> <div> </div> <div>crossing the border to canada is rave related.</div> <div> </div> <div>how you stopped jnnnx and his ohpeeuum trade isnt, which is why it's good that other guy is not posting on here anymore.</div> <div> </div> <div>i mean, at least jungle alien responds somewhat to what someone is talking about...</div> <div> </div> <div>Someone: "yes, it was made on a moog synthesizer"</div> <div>Jungle Alien: "Shit dog, i met this guy once and his name was moog, he had these really cool eyes and the techno in his trunk made my ears smile...kthx"</div> <div> </div> <div>disjunctive, but eerily still somewhat related.</div> <div> </div> <div> </div> <div><br><br> </div> <div><span class="gmail_quote">On 10/4/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Adam Ratana</b> <<a href="mailto:adam.ratana@gmail.com">adam.ratana@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Can you stop using the list as your inner thought process please<br><br>On 10/4/07, <a href="mailto:XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com"> XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com</a> <<a href="mailto:XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com">XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com</a>> wrote:<br>><br>><br>> Well it looks like in 8 years I can pay $1000 and apply for an application<br>> for rehabilitation......Do they check every single person that crosses <br>> now...So I have no chance of getting lucky and just driving through like I<br>> always did before? Does every person have to fill out a declaration?<br>><br>><br>> ________________________________<br> > See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage.<br><br><br>--<br>Adam Ratana<br><a href="mailto:adam.ratana@gmail.com">adam.ratana@gmail.com</a><br><br>--<br>you fucked polka royalty?<br>did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? <br><br></blockquote></div><br> ------=_Part_12239_12831438.1191525914368-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90424-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 04 19:26:47 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90424-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 88023 invoked by uid 1162); 4 Oct 2007 19:26:47 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 88004 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2007 19:26:47 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=ameritech.net; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=zr2hIGZZZ8ru8EHVeJcXmABHXwG07lggRyx57UA9JWrjv0Q5jQAxt30RyTE0F0ngrLC1DpTtFdKjpPyZos+fxnHCM8N12hwW0I9huMYnbRtk0muV1wRkNaBGiJegrI28BE9G51dtm6y7GJDA8/itlpXBD1Q0oZXONHzqJmKj9b4= ; X-YMail-OSG: cNgHzsMVM1mWbr_GyOjjwW9iPJf7BxsQkmQsrkVx8hxuy.HdF61k8gS0tedsgnShChYZizFX9ZDhrYYpDnd7zxQwIZYMUO_oCDuMMormPU7RUNRWfD0- Message-ID: <010b01c806bc$ae5c4500$4301a8c0@checkout> From: "Doug Burkhart" <dougburkhart@ameritech.net> To: <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> References: <bcd.15979b7f.34368fb1@aol.com> <8cf533f0710041212y56ee1c05qc11c508ae27b0bcf@mail.gmail.com> <e23444c80710041225o257f16dckf623e8dd97aa2452@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 15:28:01 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0108_01C8069B.2677C4A0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} Canada ------=_NextPart_000_0108_01C8069B.2677C4A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I vote that jungle alien stays, if we are voting. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ed Rodgers=20 To: Adam Ratana=20 Cc: XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com ; pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org=20 Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 3:25 PM Subject: Re: {pb-cle} Canada i am actually kind of enjoying it... at least he/she (no known gender who is the jungle alien) is tlaking = about inner monologue dealing with somewhat rave related posts. crossing the border to canada is rave related. how you stopped jnnnx and his ohpeeuum trade isnt, which is why it's = good that other guy is not posting on here anymore. i mean, at least jungle alien responds somewhat to what someone is = talking about... Someone: "yes, it was made on a moog synthesizer" Jungle Alien: "Shit dog, i met this guy once and his name was moog, he = had these really cool eyes and the techno in his trunk made my ears = smile...kthx" disjunctive, but eerily still somewhat related. =20 On 10/4/07, Adam Ratana <adam.ratana@gmail.com> wrote:=20 Can you stop using the list as your inner thought process please On 10/4/07, XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com <XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com> = wrote: > > > Well it looks like in 8 years I can pay $1000 and apply for an = application > for rehabilitation......Do they check every single person that = crosses=20 > now...So I have no chance of getting lucky and just driving = through like I > always did before? Does every person have to fill out a = declaration? > > > ________________________________ > See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. -- Adam Ratana adam.ratana@gmail.com -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it?=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0108_01C8069B.2677C4A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16525" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I vote that jungle alien stays, if we = are=20 voting.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A title=3Ded.rodgers@gmail.com = href=3D"mailto:ed.rodgers@gmail.com">Ed=20 Rodgers</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=3Dadam.ratana@gmail.com=20 href=3D"mailto:adam.ratana@gmail.com">Adam Ratana</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A = title=3DXxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com=20 href=3D"mailto:XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com">XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com</A> = ; <A=20 title=3Dpb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org=20 = href=3D"mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org">pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org</A>= </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, October 04, = 2007 3:25=20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: {pb-cle} = Canada</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>i am actually kind of enjoying it...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>at least he/she (no known gender who is the jungle alien) is = tlaking=20 about inner monologue dealing with somewhat rave related posts.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>crossing the border to canada is rave related.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>how you stopped jnnnx and his ohpeeuum trade isnt, which is why = it's good=20 that other guy is not posting on here anymore.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>i mean, at least jungle alien responds somewhat to what someone = is=20 talking about...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Someone: "yes, it was made on a moog synthesizer"</DIV> <DIV>Jungle Alien: "Shit dog, i met this guy once and his name was = moog, he=20 had these really cool eyes and the techno in his trunk made my ears=20 smile...kthx"</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>disjunctive, but eerily still somewhat related.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><BR><BR> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3Dgmail_quote>On 10/4/07, <B = class=3Dgmail_sendername>Adam=20 Ratana</B> <<A=20 href=3D"mailto:adam.ratana@gmail.com">adam.ratana@gmail.com</A>>=20 wrote:</SPAN>=20 <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dgmail_quote=20 style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: = #ccc 1px solid">Can=20 you stop using the list as your inner thought process = please<BR><BR>On=20 10/4/07, <A=20 = href=3D"mailto:XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com">XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com</A> = <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com">XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com</A>>= =20 wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>> Well it looks like in 8 years I can = pay $1000=20 and apply for an application<BR>> for rehabilitation......Do they = check=20 every single person that crosses <BR>> now...So I have no chance = of=20 getting lucky and just driving through like I<BR>> always did = before?=20 Does every person have to fill out a = declaration?<BR>><BR>><BR>>=20 ________________________________<BR>> See what's new at AOL.com = and Make=20 AOL Your Homepage.<BR><BR><BR>--<BR>Adam Ratana<BR><A=20 = href=3D"mailto:adam.ratana@gmail.com">adam.ratana@gmail.com</A><BR><BR>--= <BR>you=20 fucked polka royalty?<BR>did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when = you were=20 hittin' it? = <BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0108_01C8069B.2677C4A0-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90425-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 04 19:28:19 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90425-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 89565 invoked by uid 1162); 4 Oct 2007 19:28:19 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 89546 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2007 19:28:18 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=lU8k9IA4QtS3GVaxB+wzEhFiM2iPTgie5nfSLRFm5O8=; b=I6K4urmIppqfgGUmfrXWDQGpUSAACO7KanN8DCjzooIkw9f+Vb9+mye335taM9nutSyFcVNTqdkmLfdrq8pCTLPylStLdXz8Iu93KTrU4r+yiqEU8ptlhiKBxt2fbo0nGZ66gKfJHUObeO1A9NL4Qgs41Sdlt4cutoZFN4KtN80= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=qCoyAV4sQplFtA9gIkC79ZVtPUd7aOfk0PNvwbFx5JGKidbhNGcNEF59CPByN2cjf6i3Zy/siyqa7TaJPwDgsXtVNpB3K9REmAgOnM14qwuwCBBNGwHWNsNM2BeTyaFRI2XH+KfQkK4o0LTMSZuMwJqKczmZJ2arq3HYC0sjU1s= Message-ID: <8cf533f0710041228y33b5fbdbsd3f71fead425e1e5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 15:28:17 -0400 From: "Adam Ratana" <adam.ratana@gmail.com> To: "Doug Burkhart" <dougburkhart@ameritech.net> Cc: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <010b01c806bc$ae5c4500$4301a8c0@checkout> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <bcd.15979b7f.34368fb1@aol.com> <8cf533f0710041212y56ee1c05qc11c508ae27b0bcf@mail.gmail.com> <e23444c80710041225o257f16dckf623e8dd97aa2452@mail.gmail.com> <010b01c806bc$ae5c4500$4301a8c0@checkout> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} Canada I mean I'm not saying he should leave by any long stretch... just that we not be his personal sounding board for whatever random thoughts... But maybe at this stage of the game any list activity > none? On 10/4/07, Doug Burkhart <dougburkhart@ameritech.net> wrote: > > > I vote that jungle alien stays, if we are voting. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ed Rodgers > To: Adam Ratana > Cc: XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com ; pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 3:25 PM > Subject: Re: {pb-cle} Canada > > > i am actually kind of enjoying it... > > at least he/she (no known gender who is the jungle alien) is tlaking about > inner monologue dealing with somewhat rave related posts. > > crossing the border to canada is rave related. > > how you stopped jnnnx and his ohpeeuum trade isnt, which is why it's good > that other guy is not posting on here anymore. > > i mean, at least jungle alien responds somewhat to what someone is talking > about... > > Someone: "yes, it was made on a moog synthesizer" > Jungle Alien: "Shit dog, i met this guy once and his name was moog, he had > these really cool eyes and the techno in his trunk made my ears > smile...kthx" > > disjunctive, but eerily still somewhat related. > > > > > > On 10/4/07, Adam Ratana <adam.ratana@gmail.com> wrote: > > Can you stop using the list as your inner thought process please > > > > On 10/4/07, XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com <XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Well it looks like in 8 years I can pay $1000 and apply for an > application > > > for rehabilitation......Do they check every single person that crosses > > > now...So I have no chance of getting lucky and just driving through like > I > > > always did before? Does every person have to fill out a declaration? > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. > > > > > > -- > > Adam Ratana > > adam.ratana@gmail.com > > > > -- > > you fucked polka royalty? > > did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? > > > > > > -- Adam Ratana adam.ratana@gmail.com -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90426-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 04 19:44:32 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90426-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5987 invoked by uid 1162); 4 Oct 2007 19:44:32 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5971 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2007 19:44:32 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=/Jn9Z06Q1xuI42eNZIvwuXVLIq/66KV0DZj0UGgZkeI=; b=VsNcmcrjqhB7Z6nQOeEAGtlWz+sme3wo00We1sEXlzIiDQYOg6I0bZNNw3skut6zDIxRFODKkVrd6U1Jjb73tKRX9E3l+g3ga0FO8/sR6vrFBQtZlqC8tr0LWv+KCIwPa1mO8Bb/Uda25DjFLH5pEjtBrzKctDsasOpEnBSLvPk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=atkbQtDNtmFGRtnjv/GCeQFzrqUvKw2UuHUlSbn9VVWz1B+YQ1BOJaHvtleqRFGAm4m9mF7jZKXhpvk07k2YmlDBx7opinrJCy5TOqJHYHvDIWSx3CytUIAVCVazSTJ1PkKmx1NcvNglOZgzm72sHD6w9SkkcLYUrwPIWdBAQKY= Message-ID: <47054288.2000607@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 15:44:08 -0400 From: Steve Kowal <stephenmichaelkowal@gmail.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam Ratana <adam.ratana@gmail.com> CC: Doug Burkhart <dougburkhart@ameritech.net>, pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org References: <bcd.15979b7f.34368fb1@aol.com> <8cf533f0710041212y56ee1c05qc11c508ae27b0bcf@mail.gmail.com> <e23444c80710041225o257f16dckf623e8dd97aa2452@mail.gmail.com> <010b01c806bc$ae5c4500$4301a8c0@checkout> <8cf533f0710041228y33b5fbdbsd3f71fead425e1e5@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8cf533f0710041228y33b5fbdbsd3f71fead425e1e5@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} Canada What this list needs is more mixes from you, Ratana. Kthx. Adam Ratana wrote: > I mean I'm not saying he should leave by any long stretch... just that > we not be his personal sounding board for whatever random thoughts... > But maybe at this stage of the game any list activity > none? > > On 10/4/07, Doug Burkhart <dougburkhart@ameritech.net> wrote: > >> I vote that jungle alien stays, if we are voting. >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Ed Rodgers >> To: Adam Ratana >> Cc: XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com ; pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org >> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 3:25 PM >> Subject: Re: {pb-cle} Canada >> >> >> i am actually kind of enjoying it... >> >> at least he/she (no known gender who is the jungle alien) is tlaking about >> inner monologue dealing with somewhat rave related posts. >> >> crossing the border to canada is rave related. >> >> how you stopped jnnnx and his ohpeeuum trade isnt, which is why it's good >> that other guy is not posting on here anymore. >> >> i mean, at least jungle alien responds somewhat to what someone is talking >> about... >> >> Someone: "yes, it was made on a moog synthesizer" >> Jungle Alien: "Shit dog, i met this guy once and his name was moog, he had >> these really cool eyes and the techno in his trunk made my ears >> smile...kthx" >> >> disjunctive, but eerily still somewhat related. >> >> >> >> >> >> On 10/4/07, Adam Ratana <adam.ratana@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Can you stop using the list as your inner thought process please >>> >>> On 10/4/07, XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com <XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Well it looks like in 8 years I can pay $1000 and apply for an >>>> >> application >> >>>> for rehabilitation......Do they check every single person that crosses >>>> now...So I have no chance of getting lucky and just driving through like >>>> >> I >> >>>> always did before? Does every person have to fill out a declaration? >>>> >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. >>>> >>> -- >>> Adam Ratana >>> adam.ratana@gmail.com >>> >>> -- >>> you fucked polka royalty? >>> did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? >>> >>> >>> >> > > > -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90427-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 04 19:45:00 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90427-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6454 invoked by uid 1162); 4 Oct 2007 19:44:59 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6435 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2007 19:44:59 -0000 From: XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com Message-ID: <c1c.200f5f33.34369c9b@aol.com> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 15:44:27 EDT To: adam.ratana@gmail.com, dougburkhart@ameritech.net CC: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1191527067" X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 102 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} Canada -------------------------------1191527067 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was just preparing a really nasty fairwell post...at least ratana is kind enough to say please and call me sir when he attempts to humiliate me...I got a good one for faciem....I've got to un-sub anyways...I'll be as bad as Stevie if I don't. I'll let you know where my blog is if you're that interested in me...Hey check this out its my 2 cents on the war on (bleep)... _http://memberdirectory.aol.com/aolus/profile?urlman=req%3Dbl%26sn%3DXxXJuNgLA LieNXxX%26email%3D%26dsn%3DXxXJuNgLALieNXxX%26dsf%3D1_ (http://memberdirectory.aol.com/aolus/profile?urlman=req=bl&sn=XxXJuNgLALieNXxX&email=&dsn=XxXJuNgLAL ieNXxX&dsf=1) I'll probally be back in prison soon anyways....just call me a martyr ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -------------------------------1191527067 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3DUS-ASCII"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16527" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY id=3Drole_body style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY:=20= Arial"=20 bottomMargin=3D7 leftMargin=3D7 topMargin=3D7 rightMargin=3D7><FONT id=3Drol= e_document=20 face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D2> <DIV>I was just preparing a really nasty fairwell post...at least ratana is=20= kind=20 enough to say please and call me sir when he attempts to humiliate me...I go= t a=20 good one for faciem....I've got to un-sub anyways...I'll be as bad as Stevie= if=20 I don't. 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Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17477 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2007 19:56:32 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=hP0hTsA00Ip90nQzuPZby4w3K17SEdwTWEFMFTeBTw4=; b=E3u55Q+7pe5WTOsPA93pGkwXkCBFIsUSKq0bsXvze2e5lnzCVkt5CxeutA+uscAKcgOAQLfLeNH5gQNBTJDy/lJ6ov6sgSfXk61PcZIqjaiplC5uzeaNNym/LPMUtoinX7+OrMifELTXjAcDfWSzosD+dYy1yULkw1Zedazh7M4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=KToHji3q9OHR29b4NScGoOl0bvmE1OrHZj9l0Q+sYdfwaXYUlZLbvV8CWHDe8v7nhzVpYsyymVzLIppHt/gjdfGC97q1rNjTaCWOdb/F1PuSBAXUZHu0B6NeMsHG4lEXI/k+brrIuMxpKt6vLyvMyhXuIhtav3Dl5ScRZFv6U78= Message-ID: <8cf533f0710041256t59cca64ct73882c5d8208cb18@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 15:56:30 -0400 From: "Adam Ratana" <adam.ratana@gmail.com> To: "XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com" <XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com> Cc: dougburkhart@ameritech.net, pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <c1c.200f5f33.34369c9b@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <c1c.200f5f33.34369c9b@aol.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} Canada Not an attempt at humiliation.. just asking for a little filtering! :) On 10/4/07, XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com <XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com> wrote: > > > I was just preparing a really nasty fairwell post...at least ratana is kind > enough to say please and call me sir when he attempts to humiliate me...I > got a good one for faciem....I've got to un-sub anyways...I'll be as bad as > Stevie if I don't. I'll let you know where my blog is if you're that > interested in me...Hey check this out its my 2 cents on the war on > (bleep)... > http://memberdirectory.aol.com/aolus/profile?urlman=req%3Dbl%26sn%3DXxXJuNgLALieNXxX%26email%3D%26dsn%3DXxXJuNgLALieNXxX%26dsf%3D1 > > I'll probally be back in prison soon anyways....just call me a martyr > > > ________________________________ > See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. -- Adam Ratana adam.ratana@gmail.com -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90429-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 04 19:58:13 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90429-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18762 invoked by uid 1162); 4 Oct 2007 19:58:13 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18740 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2007 19:58:12 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:x-mailer:mime-version:subject:date:references; bh=/iZR3uwMPONvKVmLPFJfMMiIQ9Pn3VkKE275ODhW3vM=; b=E7bEdPZvCwyPAqrSXfsCqD3X5pbPXur2Lfy/EyfTkJmWQmP/xrD88/Bv6cbauXyZ0kO3A0jqm/pDn7Pmuo4rKqCLGqZQCo1Ayn0NaI4FacsZVP5YRANoEgc5iSvQks+dV9G4I5qvCqJNIrOzghIjKnsGOi7nIRT0hBdRROGqYf4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:x-mailer:mime-version:subject:date:references; b=iyvkaf07oFVTBLLa0VvN1Gdkkja+g3yKypKusP2eNvbQhuX1w2p1SSI1IVzLJ/qKz4cLdGHtPRJArX/+TlLeoroNcAc1GKPu7VKN4i0zmksmpi024IWmYBXmhkc9IKDoI3rhDyocdVplWBGeGCIHhSjfVRbEsjf7dn7S0r/9Xgo= Message-Id: <6BFFC221-A7B0-47E8-864F-47DAAEC2E52A@gmail.com> From: Michael Danko <dankster@gmail.com> To: Pubicle <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> In-Reply-To: <e23444c80710041225o257f16dckf623e8dd97aa2452@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-619812874 X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (3A109a) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 3A109a) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 15:58:13 -0400 References: <bcd.15979b7f.34368fb1@aol.com> <8cf533f0710041212y56ee1c05qc11c508ae27b0bcf@mail.gmail.com> <e23444c80710041225o257f16dckf623e8dd97aa2452@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} Canada --Apple-Mail-1-619812874 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Plus the tekken / ufc comment really made my day the other day. As long as we're off topic, I'm bored at work and have 10 solid years as a unix sysadmin and digital video specialist. - mike On Oct 4, 2007, at 3:25 PM, "Ed Rodgers" <ed.rodgers@gmail.com> wrote: > i am actually kind of enjoying it... > > at least he/she (no known gender who is the jungle alien) is tlaking > about inner monologue dealing with somewhat rave related posts. > > crossing the border to canada is rave related. > > how you stopped jnnnx and his ohpeeuum trade isnt, which is why it's > good that other guy is not posting on here anymore. > > i mean, at least jungle alien responds somewhat to what someone is > talking about... > > Someone: "yes, it was made on a moog synthesizer" > Jungle Alien: "Shit dog, i met this guy once and his name was moog, > he had these really cool eyes and the techno in his trunk made my > ears smile...kthx" > > disjunctive, but eerily still somewhat related. > > > > > > On 10/4/07, Adam Ratana <adam.ratana@gmail.com> wrote: > Can you stop using the list as your inner thought process please > > On 10/4/07, XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com <XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com> wrote: > > > > > > Well it looks like in 8 years I can pay $1000 and apply for an > application > > for rehabilitation......Do they check every single person that > crosses > > now...So I have no chance of getting lucky and just driving > through like I > > always did before? Does every person have to fill out a declaration? > > > > > > ________________________________ > > See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. > > > -- > Adam Ratana > adam.ratana@gmail.com > > -- > you fucked polka royalty? > did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? > > --Apple-Mail-1-619812874 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 <html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Plus the tekken / ufc comment really made my day the other day. </div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>As long as we're off topic, I'm bored at work and have 10 solid years as a unix sysadmin and digital video specialist. <br><br>- mike</div><div><br>On Oct 4, 2007, at 3:25 PM, "Ed Rodgers" <<a href="mailto:ed.rodgers@gmail.com">ed.rodgers@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div>i am actually kind of enjoying it...</div> <div> </div> <div>at least he/she (no known gender who is the jungle alien) is tlaking about inner monologue dealing with somewhat rave related posts.</div> <div> </div> <div>crossing the border to canada is rave related.</div> <div> </div> <div>how you stopped jnnnx and his ohpeeuum trade isnt, which is why it's good that other guy is not posting on here anymore.</div> <div> </div> <div>i mean, at least jungle alien responds somewhat to what someone is talking about...</div> <div> </div> <div>Someone: "yes, it was made on a moog synthesizer"</div> <div>Jungle Alien: "Shit dog, i met this guy once and his name was moog, he had these really cool eyes and the techno in his trunk made my ears smile...kthx"</div> <div> </div> <div>disjunctive, but eerily still somewhat related.</div> <div> </div> <div> </div> <div><br><br> </div> <div><span class="gmail_quote">On 10/4/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Adam Ratana</b> <<a href="mailto:adam.ratana@gmail.com"><a href="mailto:adam.ratana@gmail.com">adam.ratana@gmail.com</a></a>> wrote:</span> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Can you stop using the list as your inner thought process please<br><br>On 10/4/07, <a href="mailto:XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com"> <a href="mailto:XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com">XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com</a></a> <<a href="mailto:XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com"><a href="mailto:XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com">XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com</a></a>> wrote:<br>><br>><br>> Well it looks like in 8 years I can pay $1000 and apply for an application<br>> for rehabilitation......Do they check every single person that crosses <br>> now...So I have no chance of getting lucky and just driving through like I<br>> always did before? Does every person have to fill out a declaration?<br>><br>><br>> ________________________________<br> > See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage.<br><br><br>--<br>Adam Ratana<br><a href="mailto:adam.ratana@gmail.com"><a href="mailto:adam.ratana@gmail.com">adam.ratana@gmail.com</a></a><br><br>--<br>you fucked polka royalty?<br>did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? <br><br></blockquote></div><br> </div></blockquote></body></html> --Apple-Mail-1-619812874-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90430-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 04 20:09:29 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90430-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 31879 invoked by uid 1162); 4 Oct 2007 20:09:29 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 31862 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2007 20:09:28 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=bPQfXYJn5eM9f8iF8ooLZUa8RmGBo5d5bZg08YES6Mg=; b=Z1SLOnaN+GwHm7+1pFRI8zpsQp/tHX6TsEN5c5kmhM2/LO08P8t8m4cTQkdU5hyahu+UY9B/S9GwNP41Ws/x27DllnRR0jWPW70OP9GTKMUBwkK8BBCSZ2ARjQ4OxCfo6QqDfiBJp56VyRpbVhgXmkKDhLXC5OaRjW3wFUiMIjU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=LWCDhX5H0Krq92Xf5mizLlsx57JtqfryTo/RJLOjCh20V1g9VMOF/EB6Qgn623aJtv2hK74IEBsn7FUX5aqHQP4SG+0rMDq9AOCvdw3wF/07rDScg1NdFJHOHm+bxHdzYmorOTBdPqresgejrk4BTdGdzg7UmGyHK24Okdec4WM= Message-ID: <470548EA.1040703@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 16:11:22 -0400 From: Dean J <talldean@gmail.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Danko <dankster@gmail.com> CC: Pubicle <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> References: <bcd.15979b7f.34368fb1@aol.com> <8cf533f0710041212y56ee1c05qc11c508ae27b0bcf@mail.gmail.com> <e23444c80710041225o257f16dckf623e8dd97aa2452@mail.gmail.com> <6BFFC221-A7B0-47E8-864F-47DAAEC2E52A@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6BFFC221-A7B0-47E8-864F-47DAAEC2E52A@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} Canada I will admit, the UFC comment was gold. Michael Danko wrote: > Plus the tekken / ufc comment really made my day the other day. > > As long as we're off topic, I'm bored at work and have 10 solid years as > a unix sysadmin and digital video specialist. -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90431-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 04 20:22:08 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90431-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 50130 invoked by uid 1162); 4 Oct 2007 20:22:08 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 50110 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2007 20:22:08 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=qfyYrdkJZggfGN3uyP9Cn2wqQshjrLUMIzH7SI2cpEg=; b=X58jjDuPNaXANKGeLT7uNTW1xtE3IMFyAFOnY5UBGTGwumkP3Zw4JzsnlJ0XfGkSwTevmNlude7EOi0hnbjrjCRv/E0MKAeDlo3iawaenC60OHHEsV5pg2nHfHyWmvgQ7Mg7/tW5KjBLfdFnGFMFGmvDx05VZZZviB3m/RNqy0Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ljD/3ZPYcBXRlnTbnqbLjJNFwGwmHEiKThv4sNvQjGL8QYkKzLnxrU1NcjKLtn+Cgy2n/2QZgvjBJ8QQKEHM0o/UcOddSg2XctNRbaBgn25oFRwT7FHbqKb+xcT22BVlulMl5wuA7FCfhHGl/jjaaxbWmnuRi7eRKM69BMnKLKY= Message-ID: <e23444c80710041322k42a54a9dg3c4651c5ea680257@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 16:22:06 -0400 From: "Ed Rodgers" <ed.rodgers@gmail.com> To: "Michael Danko" <dankster@gmail.com>, Pubicle <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> In-Reply-To: <6BFFC221-A7B0-47E8-864F-47DAAEC2E52A@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <bcd.15979b7f.34368fb1@aol.com> <8cf533f0710041212y56ee1c05qc11c508ae27b0bcf@mail.gmail.com> <e23444c80710041225o257f16dckf623e8dd97aa2452@mail.gmail.com> <6BFFC221-A7B0-47E8-864F-47DAAEC2E52A@gmail.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} Canada Get me a copy of that scrambled hackz shit that was supposed to hit open source months ago! Aka Stiny, bring me a danish! On 10/4/07, Michael Danko <dankster@gmail.com> wrote: > Plus the tekken / ufc comment really made my day the other day. > > As long as we're off topic, I'm bored at work and have 10 solid years > as a unix sysadmin and digital video specialist. > > - mike > > On Oct 4, 2007, at 3:25 PM, "Ed Rodgers" <ed.rodgers@gmail.com> wrote: > > > i am actually kind of enjoying it... > > > > at least he/she (no known gender who is the jungle alien) is tlaking > > about inner monologue dealing with somewhat rave related posts. > > > > crossing the border to canada is rave related. > > > > how you stopped jnnnx and his ohpeeuum trade isnt, which is why it's > > good that other guy is not posting on here anymore. > > > > i mean, at least jungle alien responds somewhat to what someone is > > talking about... > > > > Someone: "yes, it was made on a moog synthesizer" > > Jungle Alien: "Shit dog, i met this guy once and his name was moog, > > he had these really cool eyes and the techno in his trunk made my > > ears smile...kthx" > > > > disjunctive, but eerily still somewhat related. > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/4/07, Adam Ratana <adam.ratana@gmail.com> wrote: > > Can you stop using the list as your inner thought process please > > > > On 10/4/07, XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com <XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Well it looks like in 8 years I can pay $1000 and apply for an > > application > > > for rehabilitation......Do they check every single person that > > crosses > > > now...So I have no chance of getting lucky and just driving > > through like I > > > always did before? Does every person have to fill out a declaration? > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. > > > > > > -- > > Adam Ratana > > adam.ratana@gmail.com > > > > -- > > you fucked polka royalty? > > did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? > > > > > -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90432-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 04 20:23:06 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90432-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 51243 invoked by uid 1162); 4 Oct 2007 20:23:06 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 51225 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2007 20:23:06 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=D1kMxkf1oKISJBEBfHPR09e1yb0+IkMyrm/rweOJGbQ=; b=iIYIsgF5bJ1ymiqb44kCTLxmpWWhndppC2c6howgAcIiaH6yMeOC/rWLrC1TlwT4fyTSBm3cQ3g143mM0+tRrodf2nR3Deib+krBXWLO51BLCSQ0/sumlRmr4O1guTFwkyGsuf0bTG9oeQEj+KJbV7bL5rKvRve4piUgIP4096o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=B54R2bTzyfG4cNa+8V/cdV5wdKk9Fn9crh5f99esZ8ecTdJA2WlwRn+oBe0p+HEivATe8Ovf37o7qDUlMopfA8pJvJY9x9p2m+BdpPBU1QVwQNEj3d2WzJkIC5JWtLpIuvSPfMfJCYPCIHpNtwHWHEGx8WUwxanOwB/eGFQZbR4= Message-ID: <e23444c80710041323y1e7c7f50ie0dc0d4daafbd7ca@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 16:23:03 -0400 From: "Ed Rodgers" <ed.rodgers@gmail.com> To: "Dean J" <talldean@gmail.com>, "Michael Danko" <dankster@gmail.com>, Pubicle <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> In-Reply-To: <470548EA.1040703@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <bcd.15979b7f.34368fb1@aol.com> <8cf533f0710041212y56ee1c05qc11c508ae27b0bcf@mail.gmail.com> <e23444c80710041225o257f16dckf623e8dd97aa2452@mail.gmail.com> <6BFFC221-A7B0-47E8-864F-47DAAEC2E52A@gmail.com> <470548EA.1040703@gmail.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} Canada And primary owner russel terrier comment to boot. On 10/4/07, Dean J <talldean@gmail.com> wrote: > I will admit, the UFC comment was gold. > > Michael Danko wrote: > > Plus the tekken / ufc comment really made my day the other day. > > > > As long as we're off topic, I'm bored at work and have 10 solid years as > > a unix sysadmin and digital video specialist. > > -- > you fucked polka royalty? > did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? > > -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90433-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 04 20:23:41 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90433-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 51910 invoked by uid 1162); 4 Oct 2007 20:23:41 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 51886 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2007 20:23:40 -0000 From: XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com Message-ID: <c52.21fc8673.3436a209@aol.com> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 16:07:37 EDT To: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1191528457" X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 102 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-AOL-IP: 172.20.107.72 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} Canada -------------------------------1191528457 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To you guys an idea of my undeducated asses ignorance vs. intelligence level. In grade school I was in "gifted." Middle school I discovered and devoted most of my time to the "d" word. 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That's when I quit caring....I wish= I=20 could say I was the first kid on the block to solve the Rubik's cube but=20 unfortunatly I had to use a cheat book.</DIV></FONT><BR><BR><BR><DIV><FONT s= tyle=3D"color: black; font: normal 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF;"><HR style=3D"MARG= IN-TOP: 10px">See what's new at <A title=3D"http://www.aol.com?NCID=3DAOLCMP= 00300000001170" href=3D"http://www.aol.com?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001170" targ= et=3D"_blank">AOL.com</A> and <A title=3D"http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NC= ID=3DAOLCMP00300000001169" href=3D"http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=3DAO= LCMP00300000001169" target=3D"_blank">Make AOL Your Homepage</A>.</FONT></DI= V></BODY></HTML> -------------------------------1191528457-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90434-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 04 20:24:52 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90434-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 52932 invoked by uid 1162); 4 Oct 2007 20:24:52 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 52907 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2007 20:24:50 -0000 Message-ID: <47054BCF.8020900@vrillusions.com> Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 16:23:43 -0400 From: Todd <vr@vrillusions.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pubicle <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> References: <bcd.15979b7f.34368fb1@aol.com> <8cf533f0710041212y56ee1c05qc11c508ae27b0bcf@mail.gmail.com> <e23444c80710041225o257f16dckf623e8dd97aa2452@mail.gmail.com> <6BFFC221-A7B0-47E8-864F-47DAAEC2E52A@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6BFFC221-A7B0-47E8-864F-47DAAEC2E52A@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.3 OpenPGP: id=BC90230C Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms040703030108090101060403" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} Canada --------------ms040703030108090101060403 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm jittery at work waiting to go home and setup the new computer I bought. Trying to think of ways to sneak out of work. How does one sneak out work? does your company let you do such things. And does anyone play tekken anymore? kthx Michael Danko wrote: > Plus the tekken / ufc comment really made my day the other day. > > As long as we're off topic, I'm bored at work and have 10 solid years as > a unix sysadmin and digital video specialist. > > - mike > > On Oct 4, 2007, at 3:25 PM, "Ed Rodgers" <ed.rodgers@gmail.com > <mailto:ed.rodgers@gmail.com>> wrote: > >> i am actually kind of enjoying it... >> >> at least he/she (no known gender who is the jungle alien) is tlaking >> about inner monologue dealing with somewhat rave related posts. >> >> crossing the border to canada is rave related. >> >> how you stopped jnnnx and his ohpeeuum trade isnt, which is why it's >> good that other guy is not posting on here anymore. >> >> i mean, at least jungle alien responds somewhat to what someone is >> talking about... >> >> Someone: "yes, it was made on a moog synthesizer" >> Jungle Alien: "Shit dog, i met this guy once and his name was moog, he >> had these really cool eyes and the techno in his trunk made my ears >> smile...kthx" >> >> disjunctive, but eerily still somewhat related. >> >> >> >> >> >> On 10/4/07, *Adam Ratana* < >> <mailto:adam.ratana@gmail.com>adam.ratana@gmail.com >> <mailto:adam.ratana@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Can you stop using the list as your inner thought process please >> >> On 10/4/07, >> <mailto:XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com>XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com >> <mailto:XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com> < >> <mailto:XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com>XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com >> <mailto:XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com>> wrote: >> > >> > >> > Well it looks like in 8 years I can pay $1000 and apply for an >> application >> > for rehabilitation......Do they check every single person that >> crosses >> > now...So I have no chance of getting lucky and just driving >> through like I >> > always did before? 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Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 71412 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2007 20:44:48 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=8n8VRE4hu6GPKYnlIYe/xcPy4RmZp/EsXF19ROoPYIE=; b=aU2PIVldKJ/QsWMnD9MN3MXdWJuP54wtz4Fvc5j/HcqYrl09tcBHIhAFxCmcP469WbsRxXdkmP2wK/KolPXQ9o6LoA+0UNTwbmlXcbIOFFkWbVC+2FOdldXXnwGavU478laYwA06D4fsZBfxskmo3gpoLtaHifGXHAfUZl8LOho= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=FRILEhQ6NLmtmF9iPrYmhPhgP6Y+eIT2NaLIyyEPPjb9qCIa3ZxiggwxrQQQf+Hg0f+iXeCq9DzxLZXOps0bHO1VO1XtOV8VcnqqG9MQvYThAsvmhbO3WP6zuj90qpQQabIjWSE7rBLvtkvYbZKd34MFByFtVuRiYX7mBsWjU8c= Message-ID: <8641c6dd0710041344j5fd2c2m5483f1f7d47fe68c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 16:44:45 -0400 From: "[mark ]" <hypnotyza@gmail.com> To: "Steve Kowal" <stephenmichaelkowal@gmail.com> Cc: "Adam Ratana" <adam.ratana@gmail.com>, pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <47054288.2000607@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <bcd.15979b7f.34368fb1@aol.com> <8cf533f0710041212y56ee1c05qc11c508ae27b0bcf@mail.gmail.com> <e23444c80710041225o257f16dckf623e8dd97aa2452@mail.gmail.com> <010b01c806bc$ae5c4500$4301a8c0@checkout> <8cf533f0710041228y33b5fbdbsd3f71fead425e1e5@mail.gmail.com> <47054288.2000607@gmail.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} Canada On 10/4/07, Steve Kowal <stephenmichaelkowal@gmail.com> wrote: > What this list needs is more mixes from you, Ratana. AMEN! Seconded! Me fuckin' too! Freakin' Technoir guys...keeping all the good shit to themselves! ;-) m -- "When love is gone, there's always justice. And when justice is gone, there's always force." --- Laurie Anderson, "O Superman" Blind faith in bad leadership is not "Patriotism". -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90436-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 04 20:48:02 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90436-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 75622 invoked by uid 1162); 4 Oct 2007 20:48:02 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 75571 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2007 20:48:01 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=waTNi85Poob+0wNj37nNG0l/kMlimqT8g4Zrv5yLIys=; b=qC/xmv5pOkRxDl8Gm6oEXsNGy7/Sq+qmVwGkS00mP1CK7+NpO9GPAlTDiLX3bgthh+R33x+ep82b7BbKGrR9asws7vysfnDHjFVo1Ny+McsNcnekhAEPWSco/uS7EM4XzbLucJTMVawWb/zoaK0uQdyv/to9Wb7cOnomiRJ8j6k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=QZ16ZkCOZfIEajeg8nEpeJzJZpI4pJFmrkuka6msqnvZXUWw+nafYU2r/lfUeT4+DbvdU27diVbzO+SezDdYbjlugxM+zOneGcYm6RvaTwjxT3R+Aol4c7Ta6cioQ7O3KU2/a+UsnJD8ZND/Pw+bOhktxNgCysv3cGiNEN7JE+w= Message-ID: <8cf533f0710041347o6e2d9a9aq7f28ade7b332d53@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 16:47:58 -0400 From: "Adam Ratana" <adam.ratana@gmail.com> To: "[mark ]" <hypnotyza@gmail.com> Cc: "Steve Kowal" <stephenmichaelkowal@gmail.com>, pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <8641c6dd0710041344j5fd2c2m5483f1f7d47fe68c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <bcd.15979b7f.34368fb1@aol.com> <8cf533f0710041212y56ee1c05qc11c508ae27b0bcf@mail.gmail.com> <e23444c80710041225o257f16dckf623e8dd97aa2452@mail.gmail.com> <010b01c806bc$ae5c4500$4301a8c0@checkout> <8cf533f0710041228y33b5fbdbsd3f71fead425e1e5@mail.gmail.com> <47054288.2000607@gmail.com> <8641c6dd0710041344j5fd2c2m5483f1f7d47fe68c@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} Canada Ahh, thanks.. I had made a pact with myself about... 2 or 3 years ago now that the next mix CD I did would have to have some original material on it. So there just hasn't been anything of quality produced yet, but, we (Preslav and I) are making a little progress and might have some kind of promo mix soon. Since moving, I still do not even have 2 turntables setup, unfortunately. Just 1 for listening. On 10/4/07, [mark ] <hypnotyza@gmail.com> wrote: > On 10/4/07, Steve Kowal <stephenmichaelkowal@gmail.com> wrote: > > What this list needs is more mixes from you, Ratana. > > AMEN! Seconded! Me fuckin' too! > > Freakin' Technoir guys...keeping all the good shit to themselves! > > ;-) > > m > > > > -- > "When love is gone, there's always justice. > And when justice is gone, there's always force." > --- Laurie Anderson, "O Superman" > > Blind faith in bad leadership is not "Patriotism". > -- Adam Ratana adam.ratana@gmail.com -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90437-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 04 22:19:36 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90437-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 46414 invoked by uid 1162); 4 Oct 2007 22:19:36 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 46394 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2007 22:19:35 -0000 From: XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com Message-ID: <c05.2192c8c9.3436c0f0@aol.com> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 18:19:28 EDT To: ed.rodgers@gmail.com, adam.ratana@gmail.com CC: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1191536368" X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 102 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: {pb-cle}Moog -------------------------------1191536368 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/4/2007 3:25:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ed.rodgers@gmail.com writes: Someone: "yes, it was made on a moog synthesizer" Jungle Alien: "Shit dog, i met this guy once and his name was moog, he had these really cool eyes and the techno in his trunk made my ears smile...kthx" I've never touched one but I know what a Moog is...in fact I even know whatever his first name Moog looks like! I seen Modulations and Better Living Through Circuitry...the VHS are somewhere in my basement. What his analogy? Something like instead of hot rodding cars...kids today are hot rodding synthesizer..hot rodding sounds like something I would say. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -------------------------------1191536368 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3DUS-ASCII"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16527" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY id=3Drole_body style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY:=20= Arial"=20 bottomMargin=3D7 leftMargin=3D7 topMargin=3D7 rightMargin=3D7><FONT id=3Drol= e_document=20 face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D2> <DIV>In a message dated 10/4/2007 3:25:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,=20 ed.rodgers@gmail.com writes:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"><= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2> <DIV>Someone: "yes, it was made on a moog synthesizer"</DIV> <DIV>Jungle Alien: "Shit dog, i met this guy once and his name was moog, h= e=20 had these really cool eyes and the techno in his trunk made my ears=20 smile...kthx"</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"> <DIV>I've never touched one but I know what a Moog is...in fact I even kno= w=20 whatever his first name Moog looks like! I seen Modulations and Better Liv= ing=20 Through Circuitry...the VHS are somewhere in my basement. 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Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 49348 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2007 22:24:22 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=hUqI0CZb46UMzIoKQo0DGRe6NDAWeapEiiG4Di+o3565XhPn3qzKmo/lXbwriSKV; h=Received:To:Subject:Reply-To:From:Organization:Cc:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Date:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; To: XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com, adam.ratana@gmail.com, dougburkhart@ameritech.net Reply-To: djentropy@mindspring.com From: "DJ Entropy" <djentropy@mindspring.com> Organization: America's #1 Hardcore DJ/Producer Cc: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-15 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <c1c.200f5f33.34369c9b@aol.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 18:24:16 -0400 Message-ID: <op.tzo1uq07vuw4b3@tripiithemoon> In-Reply-To: <c1c.200f5f33.34369c9b@aol.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.23 (Win32) X-ELNK-Trace: 6b6f10563bc8a19efcd34c2497a6c28d40683398e744b8a420f7908cc8c4380f1f49bf91942d1d71350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 24.233.110.70 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} Canada I don't mind him/her. On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 15:44:27 -0400, <XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com> wrote: > I was just preparing a really nasty fairwell post...at least ratana is= = > kind > enough to say please and call me sir when he attempts to humiliate = > me...I got > a good one for faciem....I've got to un-sub anyways...I'll be as bad = as > Stevie if I don't. 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Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 50523 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2007 22:24:43 -0000 From: XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com Message-ID: <c1a.237465d5.3436c225@aol.com> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 18:24:37 EDT To: XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com, ed.rodgers@gmail.com, adam.ratana@gmail.com CC: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1191536677" X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 102 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle}Moog -------------------------------1191536677 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm goin to build a Thermin to make you guys proud ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -------------------------------1191536677 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3DUS-ASCII"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16527" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY id=3Drole_body style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY:=20= Arial"=20 bottomMargin=3D7 leftMargin=3D7 topMargin=3D7 rightMargin=3D7><FONT id=3Drol= e_document=20 face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D2> <DIV>I'm goin to build a Thermin to make you guys=20 proud</DIV></FONT><BR><BR><BR><DIV><FONT style=3D"color: black; font: normal= 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF;"><HR style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 10px">See what's new at <A= title=3D"http://www.aol.com?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001170" href=3D"http://www= .aol.com?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001170" target=3D"_blank">AOL.com</A> and <A t= itle=3D"http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001169" href= =3D"http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001169" target=3D"_= blank">Make AOL Your Homepage</A>.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> -------------------------------1191536677-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90440-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 04 23:19:39 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90440-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 94184 invoked by uid 1162); 4 Oct 2007 23:19:38 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 94165 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2007 23:19:38 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Fhzb+IlrcIvyUFRInfmpuZq9vj8o0lXT4qjYEJk99jg=; b=QliFzxsbY7AZtE5H/IT8EcGFrKZPvSbOLtVwwebqvLFep1Bzyg8ky6Q4GqQvVu50ZdU6UJxyzfayVx8W+8b1QFQJC/TOk+SwoNbGQJGEotgxNZPgvcLXwocSiNhVZBWjWN7C4+YGvJltFHBpIes42PsPL/FWUwYjn3lZwZCrmfY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=CkymqnhWDYkB4Xy6Pp22tNKsJdfzks1ygJP3L2kYy9AShBOZ92AjHLtsQf3b4N4Hf/R/62I0/kAHP2nJsMQPJjuUtBy82BRHOgQoF2CaXq/4CiKLD6sD8GftyvkwRllE4DYk3VleHyqZhvUuzLs5PP8+cysFlDpHIRZrfibGZBA= Message-ID: <47057528.7000402@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 19:20:08 -0400 From: trout <troutsoup@gmail.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: peebeecle <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> References: <8641c6dd0709191038g67186fd2k16a65dcf55dd02ef@mail.gmail.com> <8C9D40F84269326-D00-2036@FWM-D38.sysops.aol.com> <47040042.6010509@pornstarstyle.com> <8641c6dd0710031352r7723ad69u49341ae132239999@mail.gmail.com> <470405D8.401@gmail.com> <8641c6dd0710031442s214d3ab1k418fc672a063f40d@mail.gmail.com> <4704F43E.5080104@vrillusions.com> In-Reply-To: <4704F43E.5080104@vrillusions.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} I-pod wedding advice well they now have those 160 gig ipods. i was around 130 gigs of stuff before they were 'removed' from the house. as of right now i've been busy ripping my cds and am at 3 gigs and have 5 more milkcrates to go. fun times!!!! so far the cross selection is more random than ever. Todd wrote: > And then have people like trout that would have ALL of that on the same > ipod with some rockabilly, gabber, oldschool country [sic], techno, > speedcore, gabber, and pretty much everything else. -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90441-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 04 23:27:13 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90441-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 99190 invoked by uid 1162); 4 Oct 2007 23:27:12 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 99174 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2007 23:27:12 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=MdOBld9cu+tDY3QzQT76fL35bMkqBLGvbwBwocYrnZ0=; b=BglKDNjfdHz5SI+Sd3tLPBIRM5I64zPpDnOD8l4uIbX8Ey5ZSiDZqR+xCBZbd5SOf3GH9PzbBItObaPJ0OjGyay6cm79WazMTKQEZL8brE7BA0oWkflnrCU/TSmaj0xP0QBk7mVHU+ZFAqVUErU0QHnXE3gOqmWP/s+6KA+uhYU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Rloggx+eGCQgi4M8ubbvB0nUY63MyciSUbF5wU0PUSWVjERQRna/OcC8B/y/LrRMmMrwcs0jYw3ejh1vJRliq1dq4I3bieDnednEEgsASFZG3Kt+Gz+8yNTGUsq+qONtIx8EpEklIdH5u5ciUG2r+C7gbiSutPtO952+bFB61to= Message-ID: <e23444c80710041627s36e677admfdaa215d9a3aa278@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 19:27:10 -0400 From: "Ed Rodgers" <ed.rodgers@gmail.com> To: "XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com" <XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com> Cc: adam.ratana@gmail.com, pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <c1a.237465d5.3436c225@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_12548_24015366.1191540430913" References: <c1a.237465d5.3436c225@aol.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle}Moog ------=_Part_12548_24015366.1191540430913 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Atta boy! 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Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13847 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2007 23:44:33 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from; bh=qZh/odMZ+tOPVgarKxm34+mSP9xsXUj9QszDjU/vz0w=; b=WnJxLw/RF4K5zdGenJOh6OOJS65lNnhiPHvlkH6LGJwfhTTSy4D3nIqdZoDS8JcI2tfP66X4c3i5gWUsn1yO7sUfwadvGuv1bJwNrmNhckC4iYCh6vb5bIOEjLkmB7bbz1x1IYeoMgW+LN12x+fQo/EuveKF64VbgJYpBAN6yZQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from; b=UPbAXJ6VHGPb79ThCQYPgcJ8zRWhwd4haX0LhGxaYwdogOc40Pe7eZoAkn+2icugsJvjLQ7OCfLgigOR0Vn30UxLHaKlkH4wbsP4pgXWAXGkiNTgHRvthRZHnH88fdXePRujfBY7ElM/lbemiNfQjSRzXrTHjLO0vJ6W6wz+vTY= Message-ID: <47057B00.5000009@hyperreal.org> Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 19:45:04 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org References: <bcd.15979b7f.34368fb1@aol.com> <8cf533f0710041212y56ee1c05qc11c508ae27b0bcf@mail.gmail.com> <e23444c80710041225o257f16dckf623e8dd97aa2452@mail.gmail.com> <010b01c806bc$ae5c4500$4301a8c0@checkout> In-Reply-To: <010b01c806bc$ae5c4500$4301a8c0@checkout> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: trout <troutsoup@gmail.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} Canada i had no intentions of kicking in any event. Doug Burkhart wrote: > I vote that jungle alien stays, if we are voting. -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90443-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 04 23:48:29 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90443-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16623 invoked by uid 1162); 4 Oct 2007 23:48:28 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16606 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2007 23:48:28 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=EXrEmXbsDBOdoBVbBr0jmXmRj3txUcLhQnKgnSUztBs=; b=bHDmjo2nw3tV2ySbq4RPH1GIh7ogjHLb7zzrRiacG6fimU2qkal9OYnAywt8pJvPE1X97wlhs1zCtdbIPT3LQP+WN2Qc+zLTXfDl31nJUxWcs5aDKA6pQFLfcY4BcYux3+vfdwi95M6O+YL3jjZKtTTuCwwbzuq0wCRCqWw0UTQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=hyoJ0dUcRg1wdAxtRi0yjY23FqjswuiKXBaV5NhmR9QOp4sulGRqXSGy7hVoKvtYNFckaaPxAPvdlXE5o0i/iAx3lreAFYLJKYkOOjyv+l9ZIilse3fx7jCXTxSXcIbD+cMzvTRPzERBpy6zq1ttaFGCCXj5CBIu+y44RAAtrrE= Message-ID: <47057BEB.8050605@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 19:48:59 -0400 From: trout <troutsoup@gmail.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org References: <bcd.15979b7f.34368fb1@aol.com> <8cf533f0710041212y56ee1c05qc11c508ae27b0bcf@mail.gmail.com> <e23444c80710041225o257f16dckf623e8dd97aa2452@mail.gmail.com> <010b01c806bc$ae5c4500$4301a8c0@checkout> <8cf533f0710041228y33b5fbdbsd3f71fead425e1e5@mail.gmail.com> <47054288.2000607@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <47054288.2000607@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} Canada Steve Kowal wrote: > What this list needs is more mixes from you, Ratana. i just ripped obsidian into itunes earlier today but havent gotten to listen to yet (well recently anyhoo). losing all my mp3s has given me the chance to pull out stuff i havent listened to in forevah. some good, some bad, some i cant believe havent found their way to the trash. (i am a packrat, i dont like to get rid of anything! ask amanda) -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90444-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 04 23:50:38 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90444-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17993 invoked by uid 1162); 4 Oct 2007 23:50:38 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17967 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2007 23:50:38 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=8Tg7e6qpxnKd7u1VzshCPxyJEIOWgY8vYekZMLvbPzY=; b=qa8F87PnsTDdQhWFyfD8q4OcLUMluSmAZ/j2KMiVMLTwB3GYNGNkEwTIebuaotNRCGs0mjNU5cSl/s3L293+K4bwGQSCWL9yZTnnfwoRXYw3Kl8fLTvOBEIsfsw3O1H86Ok3ZGEHcKNvV6BPI0QKaUmKoQjh/aAHRK/qkad84oA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=APNwFE6UYc8apuUXVigZ5QDnxbj3hfjyW6D6w87f7oF7rFRXWB5AzKZ/whu8+qidq/tozaD9EsTg+yCTYg83RiMylThG868/o62TqE9ZQK9n83awYGIioX7bh08CetF6M5tG/33w5VecpvWnChspZwxO9KIlGo2QbRuLUStFcS8= Message-ID: <47057C69.3010607@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 19:51:05 -0400 From: trout <troutsoup@gmail.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: peebeecle <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> References: <bcd.15979b7f.34368fb1@aol.com> <8cf533f0710041212y56ee1c05qc11c508ae27b0bcf@mail.gmail.com> <e23444c80710041225o257f16dckf623e8dd97aa2452@mail.gmail.com> <6BFFC221-A7B0-47E8-864F-47DAAEC2E52A@gmail.com> <47054BCF.8020900@vrillusions.com> In-Reply-To: <47054BCF.8020900@vrillusions.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} Canada i just asked. worked for me like 80% of the time wherever i was at. derrrrr, you've seen me do it. even got you out early once or twice i think. :P Todd wrote: > I'm jittery at work waiting to go home and setup the new computer I > bought. Trying to think of ways to sneak out of work. How does one > sneak out work? does your company let you do such things. And does > anyone play tekken anymore? -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90445-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 05 00:32:09 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90445-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 44120 invoked by uid 1162); 5 Oct 2007 00:32:09 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 44098 invoked from network); 5 Oct 2007 00:32:07 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=p8dr5ezX+qKlSWd16qSGdCgqRK3TVpaS2Ksqwlx2AqnhBuHajyJ/88qDbfiJBs//YNXI73r0bh6c/lBa9T5tK6tzwJQdVerekvWGev+9Y8mzYzDfR5eUvp+OGpbUxKbJzdgBWbYfnuFD0OkSsBwNKB7/o55zedn+YxYWIsveUDg= ; Message-ID: <47058603.4040809@sbcglobal.net> Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 20:32:03 -0400 From: Paul Berezansky <berezansky@sbcglobal.net> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org References: <20071004111302.84442.qmail@hyperreal.org> In-Reply-To: <20071004111302.84442.qmail@hyperreal.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} R.O.M.10.04.07 Damn there's a lot of shows coming up. trout@hyperreal.org wrote: > -=<O>=---------------------------------------------------------------=<O>=- > The Pittsburgh-Cleveland-Toronto Rave-0-Matic mkIV > Maintained by Trout Soup > Under the same management since 1996 > -=<O>=---------------------------------------------------------------=<O>=- > > Originating from crAkron, a place neither Pittsburgh or Cleveland! I > consider the PB-CLE area as far west as Columbus and Dayton and as far > east as State College. Maybe more, maybe less! I'm now including some > Buffalo, Detroit, and DC events in the ROM, as well as some somewhat > related concert events. I'm also now listing toronto since pittsburgh > and cleveland seem to have a total lack of events. > > i have removed the weeklies from the mailer, but they are still listed > on the web site. > > * This list is not for redistribution or publication without permission * > > The region i list is approximately 4 hours driving time from Akron, > Ohio. I do list events farther than this if they are special in some way > and might be of interest to people in the pbcle region. > > I take no responsibility for the accuracy of the information here as i'm > mostly relaying it from email or typing it in from a flyer (typos *DO* > happen), but will gladly fix any errors or omissions, just let me know! > > The web page is updated throughout the week, you can check that for the > latest information. > http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/rom/ > set your bookmarks appropriately :) > > Submissions, flames, threats, hot graver pictures, and your credit card > numbers to: > > trout@hyperreal.org > > -=<O>=---------------------------------------------------------------=<O>=- > > Thu Oct 04 TOKYO Pittsburgh > Fri Oct 05 FUNDAMENTAL FRIDAYS Dubois > Sat Oct 06 BANG Philli > Sat Oct 06 BRYAN SAUNDERS Dayton > Oct 05-07 PROPHECY SW Ohio > Sat Oct 06 RAVER DAY AT THE ZOO Pittsburgh > Sun Oct 07 BRYAN SAUNDERS Cincinnati > Thu Oct 11 COLETTE Cleveland > Fri Oct 12 JOHN ACQUAVIVA Detroit > Fri Oct 12 DONT BE SCURRED Pittsburgh > Sat Oct 13 BALANCE Detroit > Sat Oct 13 DARA Akron > Sat Oct 13 THAT EPIC PARTY Pittsburgh > Wed Oct 17 FUZZ Pittsburgh > Fri Oct 19 LEGENDZ REVENGE Columbus > Sat Oct 20 BASE MAGAZINE RELEASE PARTY Cleveland > Sat Oct 20 CHRISTOPHER LAWRENCE Columbus? > Sat Oct 20 HOME BASS 2 Pittsburgh > Sat Oct 20 MONSTER MASH BOAT CRUISE SW Ohio > Sat Oct 20 RICH KORACH Cleveland > Sat Oct 20 SHAZZZAM 2 Detroit > Sat Oct 20 THE GROOVE RETURNS SW Ohio > Fri Oct 26 KASKADE Cleveland > Fri Oct 26 MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE PREPARTY Cleveland > Fri Oct 26 TRICK R TWEAK Lorain > Sat Oct 27 CHINATOWN INN HALLOWEEN PARTY Pittsburgh > Sat Oct 27 FREAKOUT 2007 Toronto > Sat Oct 27 IRENE Columbus? > Sat Oct 27 MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE 2 Akron > Sat Oct 27 TRIPLE THREAT Detroit > Sun Oct 28 DARUDE Dayton > Fri Nov 02 JUNGLE JUICE 8 YR ANNIV Detroit > Sat Nov 03 TRANCEFORMERS Akron > Sat Nov 10 21 GUN SALUTE Toronto > Sat Nov 10 KONSPIRACY Detroit > Sat Nov 10 PARTY MONSTER pgh? > Fri Nov 16 SUBSTANCE Cleveland > Sat Nov 17 BOUNCE 3 Pittsburgh > Fri Nov 30 HARD BEATZ WITH A VENGEANCE Pittsburgh > ??? Nov ?? SOME AKRON THING crAkron > Mon Dec 31 MAGIC CARPET Detroit > Jul 18-19, 2008 HULLA REUNION 2008 Toronto > varied TROUTS PICKS varied > > -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- > > Thu Oct 04 TOKYO Pittsburgh > > Cover: $5 > Time: 9pm-2am > Drinks: $1 Miller Lites until 2am / $2 Smirnoff Drinks until 11pm > > DJs: Sine, B.Dee, Kyle Adams, Paul Alexander > > Tokyo is a new Thursday night monthly kicking off October 4th, and will > happen on the first Thursday of each month afterwards. The first night > will feature Tokyo's resident DJs, keeping the format smooth to get your > weekend started early. Tokyo will be featuring nationally known > headliners in the future as well. > > Opening kicks off at Diesel - 1601 E. Carson St. in the Southside of > Pittsburgh. > > > http://www.tokyopgh.com > http://www.myspace.com/t_o_k_y_o_n_i_g_h_t > > <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-04-tokyo.jpg"> > > -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- > > Fri Oct 05 FUNDAMENTAL FRIDAYS Dubois > > <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-05-fundamental_fridays.jpg"> > > -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- > > Sat Oct 06 BANG Philli > > oct 6th LOCAL 13 presents bang philly > > keep your eyes posted to local13.com for more info > > <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-06-bang.jpg"> > > -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- > > Sat Oct 06 BRYAN SAUNDERS Dayton > > Saturday October 6th > @ Jono, Katie, and Luke's house! > 122 South Philadelphia, Dayton OH > > BRYAN SAUNDERS - Johnson City TN "stand up tragedy" spoken word, youtube > for more videos http://youtube.com/results?search_query=bryan+saunders > this stuff is intense and engaging, sampled earlier this year by Sage > Francis http://www.myspace.com/mrbrainsander > > BEING - Muncie IN recently relocated to Dayton, harsh smashing noise > http://www.myspace.com/beingsound > > JONO - of Tonight Golden Curls, solo. > > ROBERT INHUMAN - collab performance TBA.... > > 10pm, donations, all ages! > > -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- > > Oct 05-07 PROPHECY SW Ohio > > <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-06-prophecy.jpg"> > > -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- > > Sat Oct 06 RAVER DAY AT THE ZOO Pittsburgh > > This Saturday @ Noon Phoenix Management is paying for EVERYONE to go to > the Pittsburgh Zoo & PPG Aquarium ! Come see the new baby tigers and the > new Waters Edge exhibit on US! > > No Im kidding, Its really free this Saturday. We are all gonna get there > at noon but the zoo is free from 9 to 5. (gates close @ 3:30) Anyone > that wants to get together and invade the zoo Come out THIS SATURDAY ! ! > > ITS FREE !!!!!!!!!!!!! > > -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- > > Sun Oct 07 BRYAN SAUNDERS Cincinnati > > Sunday October 7th > @ The Gypsy Hut > 4231 Spring Grove, Cincinnati OH > > BRYAN SAUNDERS - Johnson City TN "stand up tragedy" spoken word, best > kept secret of tennessee. > > REALICIDE - local contemporary hardcore > http://www.geocities.com/realicide/ > > FOREIGN SOIL - member of Capital Hemorrhage, socially wrenching harsh > noise http://www.outfallchannel.com/ > > 9pm show, no cover! > > -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- > > Thu Oct 11 COLETTE Cleveland > > <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-11-colette.jpg"> > > -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- > > Fri Oct 12 JOHN ACQUAVIVA Detroit > > The first installment of .Therapy. will feature John Acquaviva, former > label mate of Rich Hawtin and basically a legend in the Funky > House/Techno community. John has been DJing and producing for over 30 > years. He regularly plays events in Italy, Spain, Switzerland and Japan > while continuing to release a perpetual stream of mix CD.s that dominate > play lists all over the world. > > w/ opening set by Shawn Michaels > > iLounge - 15 South Saginaw > doors @ 9 - 18+ to enter > drink specials until 10 > tickets available @ wantickets.com > & Record Time in Ferndale > > <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-12-acquaviva.jpg"> > > -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- > > Fri Oct 12 DONT BE SCURRED Pittsburgh > > Don.t be Scurred! > Friday October 12th, Pittsburgh PA > > The hosting MC for the evening will be none other then b.a.d. ass. own. > > Mc Infinity (New Ascension, Konkrete Ohio) Akron > > With music from. > > Rezon-8 (Tech-nu-funk, Focused Motives) Pittsburgh > DVS (koala-tea.com, phoenix mgmt) Pittsburgh > Evasion (koala-tea.com) Cleveland > Dj Dubbs (Collective Consciousness, Boys of Boston) Buffalo > Jake the snake w/ blunt mc (412dnb, fuzz, strength dnb) Pittsburgh > Paul B (koala-tea.com) Cleveland > Dez Drastic (New Ascension) Akron > Eryn Evans (phoenix mgmt, sinister movement) Pittsburgh PA > Arthur B (Fever productions) Youngstown > > COSTUME CONTEST! > .and we don.t wanna see any of that fancy shmancy rented stuff either. > Everyone put their thinking cap on! Lets see who can come up with the > BEST homemade costume. Cash prizes to the winner & runner up, the rest. > tough titty. Make-up is cool, NO store bought OR rented costumes will be > allowed to enter the contest. > > Event located at: > THE SPIRITS GALLERY > 887 Progress St. > Pittsburgh PA, 15212 > (Pittsburgh.s North Side) > > Doors Open 9pm - ??? > Admission: $10 > This is an all ages event. > NO Drugs, Weapons, Bad Attitudes or BULLSHIT > R.O.A.R. in full effect. > (Right of Admission Refusal) > > Event brought to you by: Broke Ass Dj Association (B.A.D. Ass.) > > Web Support: > www.brokeassdjs.com > www.koala-tea.com > www.lolli.org > www.myspace.com/brokeassdjassociation > > The Line: > 412.542.1717 > > Happy belated birthday Rebecca! > > <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-12-dont_be_scurred.jpg"> > > -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- > > Sat Oct 13 BALANCE Detroit > > Trinity Productions presents: > > Balance > > Saturday, October 13th 2007 > > featuring: > (Upstairs) > > Dj Surgeon > Crtatesavers Muzic > Ghetto Tech > > Dj Seoul > Detroit Techno Militia/ Bang Tech 12/ Breakloose > Electro > special 2 hour set > > Dj Psycho > Detroit Techno Militia > Techno > > Xeroxxx > D-tour > Live Ghetto Tech > > The Thrill Seekers > (Blair Emmerson + William Paul) > Drum and Bass/ Breaks > > (Downstairs) > > Norm Talley > Beat Down Sounds/ Third Ear Recordings > House > > Reggie "Hotmix" Harrell > WJLB Club Insomnia Resident/ Co-Host > House > > Dwayne Jensen > Fathoa/ KMS/ Soiree/ Third Ear Recordings > House > > Bassick > Disfresh > House/ Speed Garage > > Sutter > Disfresh > Deep/ Funky House > > Dj SQaRD > House > > located at: > > The FiNite > 1370 Plum > Detroit, Mi. > 1 block East of Old Tiger Stadium > > $5 before 12 - $10 after > > free giveaways from 237am.com > > myspace.com/trinity of detroit > > <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-13-balance.front.jpg"> > > <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-13-balance.back.jpg"> > > -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- > > Sat Oct 13 DARA Akron > > <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-13-dara.front.jpg"> > > <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-13-dara.back.jpg"> > > -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- > > Sat Oct 13 THAT EPIC PARTY Pittsburgh > > That Epic Party in Pittsbugh > > Freak out kids... This is our lineup... > > Knifehandchop > Belladonnakillz > The Niceguys > Sunrize > Vapour > Rukkus with MC E.N.D. > Psyklone > Robotpilot > Darren Grant > Dynamic Uno > George WSR > Tika > RyuRy > Konztant > Red Ranger > Otagi > > > anyone with a canadian citizenship gets in for free > This is going to be the party of the year... be there > > <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-13-that_epic_party.jpg"> > > <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-13-that_epic_party.pre.jpg"> > > -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- > > Wed Oct 17 FUZZ Pittsburgh > > Big things continue in the 412 as FUZZ brings you some of the up and > coming producers and deejays from here in the states: > > Dnb duo STYLE CONTROL (aka Will Miles and Kjell Anderson) have been > making quite a name for themselves in 2007, producing tracks together as > well as separately. Will, just back from his European tour, has a single > forthcoming on Fabio's imprint, CREATIVE SOURCE, followed by Kjell's > release on the same label. Kjell's POISONOUS E.P. on TRACKDONALDS > remains in the top 10 on juno records digital download. > > myspace.com/theswonz > > myspace.com/milesahead > > With local support from: > Preslav and Ratana- This duo has been busy at work in the studio as > well. They are putting out some very nice tracks surely to be picked up > by some labels soon. visit the studio at: InTheMachineAge.com > > Jungle Jake aka JTS- > > $5 Cover > 21+ > 10-12 $1 bottles > 4412 Liberty Avenue > Pittsburgh, PA 15224 > > -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- > > Fri Oct 19 LEGENDZ REVENGE Columbus > > <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-19-legendz_revenge.front.jpg"> > > <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-19-legendz_revenge.back.jpg"> > > -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- > > Sat Oct 20 BASE MAGAZINE RELEASE PARTY Cleveland > > [not to be confused with bassline magazine] > > <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-20-base_magazine_release.jpg"> > > -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- > > Sat Oct 20 CHRISTOPHER LAWRENCE Columbus? > > <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-20-christopher_lawrence.jpg"> > > -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- > > Sat Oct 20 HOME BASS 2 Pittsburgh > > Home Bass 2 ~ October 20, 2007 > > Milano's > 111 Market Street > Pittsburgh PA 15222 > > DJ's: > > Chico > NatasK > Chris Nature > Abduction > Aaron Clark > Shadowstarr > > 21+ venue and $5.00 at the door. > > <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-20-home_bass_2.front.jpg"> > > <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-20-home_bass_2.back.jpg"> > > -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- > > Sat Oct 20 MONSTER MASH BOAT CRUISE SW Ohio > > In the Groove is proud to present "Monster Mash" a halloween costume, > birthday celebrating, fundraising boat cruise!!!! > > We have a lot in store for you this year...We are going to have 4 rooms > of sound giving us a capacity of almost 500 people!!! > > We have invited a couple of other local production companies to join in > the fun with us...Lingo Roecodings and Straight Up Entertainment will be > hosting their own rooms this year... > > > ------------------------------------------ > In the Groove rooms will have: > ------------------------------------------ > > Betamax - Miami Beach - Electro House > www.myspace.com/betamaxdj > > Ai Noyp - Kansas City - House & Progressive tech > http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=26689442 > > Love Between Equals - Cincy - Live Electro House > > Tease - Cincy - Progressive trance > > Lady Bandit - Dayton - Breaks > > Nautigroove - Florence Y'all - Progressive Sounds > > --------------------------------- > Lingo Recordings room: > --------------------------------- > > Lettow & Ice - Cincy - House > > William Alexander - Cincy - House > > Nelson - Cincy - House > > --------------------------------------------- > Straight Up Entertainment room: > --------------------------------------------- > > Steve Dizzle - Hills of KY - Hard Electro/House > > Psych - Richmond KY - Electro > > DJ Penetration - Cincy - D&B > > Vinny Bricks - Cincy - Hard Techno/House > > Typekast - Cincy - Minimal beats > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Remember the party goes on rain or shine...The boats are covered...Bring > a hoodie in case it gets cold... > > $15.00 16 & up with ID... > > 2 fully stocked cash bars on board... > > 1 bar on the dock before hand > > We start boarding @ 10;00 and shove off around midnight or at > capacity... > > contact nautigroove with any and all questions... > > -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- > > Sat Oct 20 RICH KORACH Cleveland > > Richie Hawtins' favorite tag teammate in Detroit and the head of the > Paxahau residents assault team responsible for bringing you the Detroit > Electronic Music Festival for the past two years this will be the FIRST > appearance in N.E. Ohio for any Paxamember and we are proud to host him. > He has played before tens of thousands of people across the globe from > Ibiza to Buenos Aires but will be just as comfortable tearing down the > ceiling in Touch for us on this amazing night. > > And of course you'll be getting the best Tek-Know has to offer with > support from > > Downstairs: > 11 - 12 - Randomseed [Tek-Know] > 12 - 1 Truck Stop Tourist [Tek-Know] > 1 - Close Rich Korach [Paxahau | Detroit] > > Upstairs > 10-11:15 - Dan Moore [Tek-Know] > 11:15 - 12:30 - Funk Detective [Tek-Know,Touch] > 12:30 - Close - John K [Tek-Know,Touch] > > > Library - Konkrete Ohio > Jocelyn D [Bassline Magazine, DBE, Chronic Camp,www.jocelyndee.com | > Toranto] > Stevie P [Collaborations] > Robtronix [Konkrete Ohio,Koala-tea] > N:Coder [Konkrete Ohio,Vibe Prod ] > > <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-20-rich_korach.jpg"> > > -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- > > Sat Oct 20 SHAZZZAM 2 Detroit > > yo whats up its about that time,I'm throwing another party Sat oct 20th > in Detroit.This is the internet promo,to give you an ideal,we are > expecting 2-3 thousand people,It will be the best party of the year, I > would like to invite you and your crew out personally,I hope you can > make it and experience something incredible. > > Flyers and real detroit ads coming soon > > Info and directions 313-633-7070 > > <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-20-shazzzam_2.jpg"> > > -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- > > Sat Oct 20 THE GROOVE RETURNS SW Ohio > > <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-20-the_groove_returns.teaser.jpg"> > > -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- > > Fri Oct 26 KASKADE Cleveland > > TRU & DISCO Present: > > "BRING THE NIGHT TOUR" > FEATURING: > > KASKADE (kaskademusic.com | Ultra Records | San Fran.) > > Oprning Set Provided By: > Evan Evolution (Tru | Disco | Spin Cycle) > > When: Friday Oct.26.2007 > Where: Sinergy Nightclub > Address: 1213 West 6th Street (Warehouse District) > City: Cleveland > State: Ohio > Time: 9pm-2:30am > Age: 18+ > Dress Code: None, Be yourself! > > TICKET INFO: > Pre-Sale Tickets on: > www.wantickets.com > or > Grand Poo-Bas Record Shoppe > 11823 Detroit Ave., Lakewood Ohio > > Limited - $10 | Advance - $15 | Door - $20 > VIP tickets also available, check with ticket buying locations. > > VIP TABLE RESERVATION: > E-mail: kasredtr@hotmail.com > > EVENT INFO: > www.myspace.com/tazmo9 > www.discoproductions.org > www.kaskademusic.com > www.wantickets.com > > <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-26-kaskade.front.jpg"> > > <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-26-kaskade.back.jpg"> > > -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- > > Fri Oct 26 MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE PREPARTY Cleveland > > Pre party line up is: > > Abduction > Trout soup > Eric Bliss > Van Norman > > more info to come on that..... > > myspace.com/future_noise > > -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- > > Fri Oct 26 TRICK R TWEAK Lorain > > Trick 'R Tweak presented by Deep Widdit Productions > > October 26th, 2007 > Doors open @ 9pm > 18 + (21 to Drink) > > ***Drum & Bass::All night*** > ***Nice party enviroment with spooky Halloween decor*** > > ::Halloween Costume Contest:: > The winner of this will be bringing a guest to go see DIESELBOY @ > TheMetropolis on Friday, November 16th, courtesy of Koala Tea. > Arriveearly if you plan on entering! > > > Venue: > The Red Parrot > 538 Broadway Ave. > Lorain, Ohio > > Line-Up: > robtronix > sheepdog > renaldo > danky dave > chibbity > > Cover: > $5 - 21+ > $7 - under 21 > > > Rules: No bad replicants, no weapons, no bad vibes & no drugs... > > hunt down a Deep Widdit krew member for pre-sales! > > http://www.myspace.com/deepwiddit > > <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-26-trick_r_tweak.front.jpg"> > > <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-26-trick_r_tweak.back.jpg"> > > -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- > > Sat Oct 27 CHINATOWN INN HALLOWEEN PARTY Pittsburgh > > Pittsburgh's most legendary Halloween party is back for it's 7th round > of debauchery! This year sees the return of the PeopleNYC crew to > provide an extra helping of dancefloor destruction. > > Please RSVP to this event > > RSVP > Yes Maybe No > Comment(s) : > > SPREAD THE WORD... > Blog this > Bulletin this > Saturday, October 27th, 2007 @ Chinatown Inn > > Upstairs: > > Darren Michaels (PeopleNYC) & Matt Monroe (Humanaut) tag set > Kenneth:L (PeopleNYC) & Adam Oliveri (Humanaut) tag set > Clevr (Breakbeat Militia) > Paul Alexander & Aaron Clark tag set (Humanaut) > Quartz > Marc D > > Downstairs: > > DJs GH & Underground (Pittsburgh Underground) > Nolan - special hip-hop set (Focused Motives) > Rezon8 (Focused Motives) > > As always, there will be the usual costume contest with cash prizes as > well as hor'dourves on the lower level. Please think twice when creating > your costume as security will confiscate all dangerous and weapon-like > props. > > Chinatown Inn (Upper floors) > 520 3rd Ave > Downtown Pittsburgh, PA 15219 > > Doors open @ 9pm > $15 Cover - 21+ w/ ID > Info line: 412.248.BOOO > http://www.humanaut.net > > Promotion by: S. Simpson, Humanaut > > <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-27-7th_chinatown_in_halloween.front.jpg"> > > -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- > > Sat Oct 27 FREAKOUT 2007 Toronto > > DESTINY666: FREAKOUT! > Saturday, October 27th, 2007 > Docks Entertainment Complex > www.DESTINY666.com > > On Saturday, October 27th, Canada's longest running producer of head > boppin' leg shakin' body bangn' smile on your face events is back once > again to bring you your annual serving of Halloween madness! Destiny > Productions will transform the newly sound-proofed and bass enhanced > Docks Entertainment Complex into a haunted world filled with sights and > sounds beyond your imagination. We will create the ultimate Halloween > environment, complete with the most advanced installation of sound, > lighting and visuals. Join us as scary techno, death dealing trance, > evil jungle and gnarled breaks artists from around the world descend > onto the shores of Lake Ontario for this spooktacular annual Halloween > event. > > ON HALLOWEEN - THIS IS THE BIG ONE! Prepare to FREAKOUT harder than ever > before! > > EVENT FEATURES: > > * - The worlds largest Alpha Dyna Cord sound system bringing you over > 100 000 Watts of digital sound! > * - The ultimate party environment with our most freaky Halloween decor > to date > * - The incredible Destiny Light, Video & Laser show you have come to > expect! > * - Destiny666 Best Costume Contest: Win CASH and guestlist to all > Destiny events for a full year! > * - Four separate rooms of pounding bass showcasing all styles of > electronic music including Drum and Bass, Trance, Jungle, House, Breaks > & Techno! > * - Multiple, fully stocked VIP drinking areas for the 19+ > * - Heated outdoor smoking and chill areas! > * - The 'oldskool Destiny vibe' that can't be felt anywhere else! > > :THE JUNGLE DANCE CAVE: > presented by Destiny & Projek > > ED RUSH & OPTICAL - UK > GROOVERIDER - UK > MC RYME TYME - UK > Mystical Influence > Marcus Visionary > Capital J > Everfresh vs Crash > D-Syfa > > ::MCs:: > Caddy Cad > MC JD > MC Trajady > > :TERRIFYING TRANCE, HAUNTED HOUSE & FREAKY TECHNO: > Presented by Destiny & Terror Inc > > M.I.K.E. PUSH - UK > FILO & PERRY - USA > SAM PUNK - Germany > THOMAS PENTON - USA > THE BEAT FREAKERS - USA > DOSE THE ALIEN - USA > OS/2 > Rex Manning (AKA Unabomber & Mike Conradi) > NuEra > Walter rosati > > :PUREPHUNK BREAKS THE BONES ROOM: > Hosted by Purephunk Recordings & The Latest Entertainment Group > > CHEMICAL DJS - Vancouver > D-Monic > DJ Tasc > Dave Saddler > Red Turtle > Wendy Law > DJ Mez > > :EVIL YET STILL HAPPY HARDCORE: > presented by GOODFELAS > > DELTA 9 - USA > Frisky & Hujib > Gobs the Zombie > Bacchus > E.N.d > Psyklone > Scoots > Tyco > Virus > Xphox vs Tempest > > DESTINY666 BEST COSTUME CONTEST: > Win Cash & Guestlist to everything Destiny & Temporal Rhythm including > WEMF for an entire year! Arrive early if you plan on entering the > contest! Costume categories and contest details available online @ > www.destiny666.com > > NEED TO BUY OR RENT A COSTUME? We have arranged for special 'destiny > discounts' at: > Amazing Party & Costume Supply - 923 Oxford St., Etobicoke - > 416.259.5959 > > > VENUE : Destiny666: Freakout, will be taking place at > The Docks Entertainment Complex 11 Polson St, Downtown Toronto. > > This location will create the ultimate Halloween environment, complete > with the most advanced installation of Sound, Lighting and Visuals you > have come to expect from Destiny. > > * For maps and driving directions please visit www.destiny666.com > Driving directions will also be made available on our infoline 24 hours > prior to the event. > > > TICKET PRICES: > $25 Early Bird (First 200 Tickets @ Numb, Play De Record) > $35 Next 666 Tickets > $40 Last Minute Tickets > More @ Door. > > DESTINY events are never oversold! Last year's event completely sold > out! Avoid disappointment - purchase your tickets in advance! Arrive > extra early if paying at the door. > > ONLY purchase tickets from the official outlets listed on this flyer or > the official Destiny website. We will be scanning all tickets for fakes > and will not honor counterfit tickets in anyway! > > SUPPORT THOSE THAT SUPPORT YOU! > OS & OV > > TICKET OUTLETS: > > CANADA/USA > All TICKETMASTER locations across Canada & USA. Charge by phone @ > 416.870.8000 or online at www.ticketmaster.ca or www.ticketmaster.com > > ONLINE only retailers: > www.Groovetickets.com www.Ticketbreak.com > > TORONTO > Numb - 250 Queen St W - 416.599.5424 > Play De Record - 357A Yonge St - 416.586.0380 > Zoam - 2503 Yonge st. - 416.494.8121 > Delphic - 706 Queen St W - 416.603.3334 > > MISSISSAUGA \ ETOBICOKE > Unicus - Square One - 905.897.6900 > Amazing Party & costume - 923 Oxford St - 416.259.5959 > > BRAMPTON > Highway Bramalea City Centre 905.799.1027 > > BARRIE > Drop The Needle 69 Dunlop St West 705.737.4624 > > ORANGEVILLE > The Altered Native 172 Broadway Ave., Unit #1 519.942.2828 > > COLLINGWOOD > The Altered Native 168 Hurontario St., Unit A 705.445.0228 > > GEORGETOWN > The Altered Native 134 Guelph St., Unit #1 905.877.7884 > > OAKVILLE > Hustler 111 Kerr St. 905.844.1688 > > HAMILTON > Dr. Disc 20 Wilson St. 905.523.1010 > > ST CATHARINES > MIXED STYLES 213 St.Paul St 905 984 4442 > > KITCHENER > Shakedown 276 King St. W 519.570.0440 > > LONDON > >From Mars 347 Talbot Street 519.438.6277 > > ATTENION: > > Destiny prides itself on producing the highest quality electronic music > events in Canada! We produce these events for a mature audience and > therefore do not recommend them for those under 18 years of age. > > ROAR in effect - If you feel you can contribute to the positive vibe and > are at least 16 years of age then you may attend. This event will > feature fully stocked, licensed areas for those 19 years of age or older > with proper ID. > > <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-27-freakout_2007.poster.jpg"> > > -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- > > Sat Oct 27 IRENE Columbus? > > <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-27-irene.jpg"> > > -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- > > Sat Oct 27 MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE 2 Akron > > <a href="http://groups.myspace.com/mastersoftheuniverse2">Myspace Group</a> > > 3 rooms of unbeatable sound and lights... > > Here is the final line up--- > > DJ Rectangle vs. Total Eclipse > Sykopath > DJ Phiction > Random(seed) > DVS > Van Norman > Hazey > Zone > Smartie Roc > Dez Drastik > Hooty > Cubby > Vinny Peace > Doug B - Encyclopedia Brown - Nox > Evasion > Anthony Rich > Paul B > > Also, a limited number of presales are available thru me get in touch with me via myspace > myspace.com/rainbowjewels > $20 presale > $25 at the door > > myspace.com/future_noise for more info. > > <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-27-masters_of_the_universe_2.front.gif"> > > <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-27-masters_of_the_universe_2.back.gif"> > > <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-27-masters_of_the_universe_2.pre.front.jpg"> > > <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-27-masters_of_the_universe_2.pre.back.jpg"> > > -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- > > Sat Oct 27 TRIPLE THREAT Detroit > > The D.E.V.I.L.,Moto,313 Family, and Hardcore 313 > > present: > > TRIPLE THREAT > > > Live Performances: > > Cozmic Spore Techno www.seimicdetroit.com Detroit > Cignal To Noise Acid Techno www.planetdetroit.net Detroit > Jesse James Min. Techno 313 Family,Night Sneak Detroit > Latondrez Techno R.U.G.,313 family Detroit > Module 8 Min. Techno EOC Detroit > Process 42 Industrial Detroit > Sonic Disturbance Tech Breaks EOC Detroit > > Disc Jockeys: > > Rob Rage(3 tables) Hard Techno Columbus Tweaker Association Columbus,OH > The Disciple Drum & Bass 313 Family,Lockdown Records Detroit,MI > DMOND Hard Techno Hardcore 313, 313 Family Detroit > ACO Hard Techno Hardcore 313 Detroit > Gary G Techno Melodies & Memories Detroit > Wafflestomper Hardcore/Freeform Diehard,Hardcore 313 Detroit > Damselfly Gabber/Hardcore Hardcore 313 Detroit > Dr. Whipple Freeform Hardcore 313 Detroit > > more TBA...... > > $10 w/ a costume $15 w/o > > Located @ Fi Nite Gallery 1370 Plum(corner of Brooklyn & plum) > 18+ w/ID to enter > Doors 9pm-When the sun comes up > > HAPPY 50th BIRTHDAY ROB RAGE!!!!! > > SOUND: DMOND > VIDEO GAMES: 313 Family > > -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- > > Sun Oct 28 DARUDE Dayton > > 10.28.2007 > KATE Worldwide proudly presents: > Sanctuary @ Masque > +The last sunday of every month+ > > sanc.tu.ary (n) . 1. a place of refuge and protection in a troubled > world. > > > This month featuring: > DARUDE - Finland > His name is synonymous with driving beats and unrelenting energy, has > been an innovator in dance music since he smashed his way onto the scene > 8 years ago with his global hit track "Sandstorm" which has been > featured in almost every facet of EDM Culture. He is back with yet > another genre-breaking track, the debut single, .Tell Me., from his > upcoming 3rd artist album, .Label This!. which is poised to rock its way > up the charts and across the globe. Don.t miss out on this international > super star that is sure to incite the imagination of every person in the > room & leave you begging for more! > > Tony DeSaro & Drew Whiteted - Dayton > (KATE Worldwide) > > Phrenzy- Dayton > (Rokit Labs, KATE Worldwide) > > DJ Nostalgic - Dayton > (Downtown Ent., KATE Worldwide) > > Doug Collins - Dayton > (KATE Worldwide) > > > Join us on the last sunday of every month at our Sanctuary. A place > where you can let your inhibitions run wild & your wildest dreams will > manifest before your eyes. With such a troubling world outside we feel > it necessary to have a place for people to come to enjoy true EDM > culture & truly let go. No rules, no limits, just you & the music. > > Time > 9pm-4am > > Venue > Club Masque *upstairs* > 34 N. Jefferson St. > Dayton, OH 45424 > > Admission > $5 early bird > $10 pre-sale > $15 @ the door > $20 V.I.P. > > 18+ to enter > 21+ to drink > w/ proper I.D. > > Contact/Info > V.I.P. Tables & Tickets: Tony . 937.232.0980 . tony@kateworldwide.net > Questions/Promotions: Jon . 937-219-6057 . director@kateworldwide.net > > Web Support > kateworldwide.net > myspace.com > darude.com > byassn.com > hmc.fi > > <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-28-darude.gif"> > > -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- > > Fri Nov 02 JUNGLE JUICE 8 YR ANNIV Detroit > > FRIDAY NOVEMBER 2ND > Jungle Juice Productions and Breakloose Present > The Jungle Juice 8 Year Anniversary > > FEATURING: > > APHRODITE > Urban Takeover, Aphrodite Records (UK) > > Dilemma > Jungle Juice Productions/Breakloose (DET) > -vs- > Ronin Selecta > Breakloose, Hydro, Bassdrive (AA) > (Special 2 hour old school jump up set) > > Matt Haggerty > Jungle Juice Prod.(San Diego) > DJ Seoul > Breakloose, D T M, Bang Tech 12 (DET) > Exodus > Breakloose (TOL) > Teddie > Breakloose (DET) > Nimbus > Breakloose (DET) > Stonecypher > Breakloose, Urban Music Refinery (DET) > The Vandal > Breakloose (DET) > > Hosted By Jungle Juices very own original Bad Boy > MC PLAY > & Breaklooses resident the one they call > TEDDY MC > > Shouts go out to the orignal JJP Crew - Rampage (Matt Hagerty), Petros, > & The Rude One Dutch Bwoy > > Doors @ 9pm > 18+ w/ proper ID > Cover $10 before midnight > > FREE JUNGLE JUICE > while supplies last > > @ > The Works > 1846 Michigan Ave. > Detroit, MI > > -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- > > Sat Nov 03 TRANCEFORMERS Akron > > <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-11-03-tranceformers.front.jpg"> > > <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-11-03-tranceformers.back.jpg"> > > -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- > > Sat Nov 10 21 GUN SALUTE Toronto > > Saturday, November 10, 2007 - 9:00pm to 6:00am > Funhaus, 526 Queen St. West > $10 advance, $10 @ door for 19+, more at door for under 19 > Licensed Area, Concessions, 16+, 2 Rooms > > LINE UP > > SC@R B2B UPLIFT - Hardcore > [Raw Elements UK, Raindance, History of Hardcore, Eruption 101.3fm - > United Kingdom] > > Chiclet - Hard Trance > [djchiclet.com, Viva Nightclub, Purple Heaven - Toronto, Ontario] > > Station aka: Opel B2B Xofer - Breaks > [Embedded Entertainment, xofer.com, Goodfellaz, Deprivation Records - > Toronto, Ontario] > > Saigon B2B Maniak - Drum & Bass > [Front Left, Theory, Simpl3 - Toronto, Ontario] > > Scartat B2B JePh- Mungle W/Locked > [De.ranged Entertainment, Biological Beats, Terror Inc., Junction > Junglist - Toronto, Ontario] > > Sprout B2B Impact - Hardstyle > [Jitterjaw, De.ranged Entertainment, D.zire Inc., Terror Inc. - > Sudbury/Oshawa, Ontario] > > Dynamic B2B Skye - Happy Hardcore > [De.ranged Entertainment, Nocturnal Commissions, Embedded Entertainment > - USA.. kinda.] > > Gabbo - Hard Techno > [Hitman Productions, Terror Inc., De.ranged Entertainment - Toronto, > Ontario] > > Evantech - Whatever (House, breaks, ... that funky stuff) > [Civil Defense, TSA, De.ranged Entertainment - Toronto, Ontario] > > George (Who Spins Records) - Happy Hardcore > [Nocturnal Commissions, Embedded Entertainment, De.ranged Entertainment > - Toronchester, Ontario] > > Dj Kenezo B2B DJ Tevlon D W/Mc A-Z -Jungle/Drum & Bass > [Levitation - Toronto, Ont] > > Dj King Pin - Ragga Jungle > [Ruff Plate Militia, Dub Plate Specialist - Toronto, Ont] > > Dj Yoshi Mojo W/MC Mensa - Drum & Bass > [SolidSoldiers, yoshimojo.multiply.com - Midland] > > Spin laden ( the turn table terrorist) aka: Madizm - Ragga Jungle > [M.U.F.F - Toronto, Ont] > > > INFO @ 6472835474 http://www.myspace.com/derangedentertainment > http://www.purerave.com/events/16483 > http://www.torontojungle.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15624 > > -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- > > Sat Nov 10 KONSPIRACY Detroit > > Saturday, November 10th, 2007 > > Locked Down Entertainment > presents.... > > K o n s p i r a c y > > > Aaron-Carl > Wallshaker Music > > Wilhelm K > D-Version > > The Disciple > Locked Down Ent > > E. Dubb > Wallshaker Music > > Jesse James > Nightsneak > > Brian Scott > DUG Recordings/D-Version > > DJ Twizzler > Drum & Bass > > Dj Gusto > Nightsneak > > Raskalz > Vinyl Vixens > > The Machinist > Motown Depth > > Shane P > Jazzy House > > Zeroxxx > Detour Ent > > > Info: > $10 all night > Doors open at 9pm til 6am > > Location: > Fi-Nite Gallery > 1370 Plum Detroit, MI 48207 > > <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-11-10-konspiracy.front.jpg"> > > -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- > > Sat Nov 10 PARTY MONSTER pgh? > > [still looking for info on this one] > > -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- > > Fri Nov 16 SUBSTANCE Cleveland > > Koala Tea and Bad A.S.S pull together to rave it up in November. The two > big rooms have been booked at Metropolis. Dieselboy will be stopping by > on his CD-Release tour for "Substance D"; which is his new album being > released the week of the show. > > More headliners will be announced. > > Keep it tuned here for more announcements. > > 20$ > > <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-11-16-substance.jpg"> > > -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- > > Sat Nov 17 BOUNCE 3 Pittsburgh > > <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-11-17-bounce_3.jpg"> > > -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- > > Fri Nov 30 HARD BEATZ WITH A VENGEANCE Pittsburgh > > [fucking a awesome] > > Spirits of Change > > This is gonna be crazy !!!!! > > Spirits of Change brings you Hard Beatz with a Vengeance Friday November > 30, 2007 Featuring Brisk-Hardcore (UK) DVS -hard house- Tika vs. Leash > -hardcore- Vinny Peace-hard techno- Jake the Snake -jungle funk- Hooty > -speed garage- More info coming soon! > > <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-11-30-hard_beatz_with_a_vengeance.front.jpg"> > > <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-11-30-hard_beatz_with_a_vengeance.back.jpg"> > > -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- > > ??? Nov ?? SOME AKRON THING crAkron > > hey, we're working on the date and whatnot. lineup is coming together. > plur and sparkles - trout > > -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- > > Mon Dec 31 MAGIC CARPET Detroit > > R.U.G. & The D.E.V.I.L. > present: > MAGIC CARPET > 12/31/07 > in Beatiful Detroit city Michigan > > > Featuring: > > Brill(live pa) Drum & Bass Mad At Society Rec. Las Vegas,NV > COZMIC SPORE(live pa) Acid Techno www.seismicdetroit.com Detroit,MI > Tim Baker House Elephant Haus, www.planetdetroit.net Detroit,MI > > > Other family favorites: > > Dj Seoul Electro Bang Tech 12,DTM,Breakloose Detroit > Red Pill: Blue Pill(live pa) Acid Techno www.planetdetroit.net, 313 Family Detroit,MI > Ben Wu Techno/House/Electro Bang Tech 12 Indianapolis,IN > MD! w/ Teddy MC Drum & Bass www.nefarious.net,Dluv Detroit,MI > The Disciple Drum & Bass 313 Family, Locked down Records Detroit,MI > Wataru(3 tables,2 hours!) Techno Mad At Society Rec. Detroit,MI > DMOND Vs. ACO(2 hours) Hard Techno Moto,313 Family,Hardcore 313 Detroit,MI > Jesse James(live pa) Min. Techno Nightsneak Ent. Detroit,MI > Uncontent(live pa & DJ) Dirty Sleazy Electro 313 Family,Mad At Society > Rec. Detroit/Las Vegas,NV > > TS 1 Techno www.planetdetroit.net Detroit,MI > > Hammer Brothers(live pa) Techno www.planetdetroit.net Detroit,MI > > Wax Drum & Bass 313 Family,Shadowbeat Detroit,MI > > Donald Wahn Freeform/Hardcore Hardcore 313 Detroit,MI > > Damselfly Gabber/Hardcore Hardcore 313 Detroit,MI > > VENUE INFO TO BE POSTED ON OCTOBER 27th... > > Doors 9pm-6am 18+w/ID to enter $10 before midnight $15 after.$5 off with > out of state ID or if you come from Ann Arbor,Kzoo,GR areas or any > further north than Flint....Your ID must prove this....Info:313 721 3673 > > > THIS IS ONLY THE BEGINNING OF THIS LINEUP....We LOVE YOU DETROIT!! > > -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- > > Jul 18-19, 2008 HULLA REUNION 2008 Toronto > > [probably the opera house. a wonderously shittastic venue] > > Hullabaloo reunion 2008!!! :) > Yes! there will be a Hulla next summer > > www.hulla.info > > The next Hullabaloo reunion date is the weekend of July 18th and 19th, > 2008. > > It's hard to argue with how fast tickets sold out for OMGH, but the > party itself was such a critical and emotional success we decided to > seize the left over feelings in the air and mark that date for a future > reunion party. Hulla will forever be officially .over. but it was really > nice to revisit it, as well as welcome a whole new generation of Hulla > Ravers into the fold and we look forward to doing it one more time. > > The other thing is that Hullabaloo has turned into a global party, > attracting patrons from all over the world, so it seemed prudent to let > people start making their plans now since there could be significant > investment by some in getting here. > > More details about the party and weekend won.t be made until early 2008, > but after talking to many patrons about their need to plan ahead I.ve > come up with an optional way to hold a ticket for the next event. > > > > Announcing the Hulla Friend Membership. > > - $25 discount off our 2008 reunion event tickets! (So ultimately you > pay nothing) > - Tickets for Hulla Friends go on sale ONE WEEK before regular > availability (no mayhem on ticket day) > - 20% discount code for all Hullabaloo box sets from the HullaStore (not > including OMGH or DVD). > - Special mailing list that will keep you updated on all Hulla event > news > - You will get sent a link to the new flyer 24 hours before it goes > public (expected Feburary 2008). > > The price is $25, which as noted is deducted from your ticket purchase > when they go on sale. > > > There.s also some more free bonuses: > > If you buy your Hulla Friend Membership with the OMGH and/or Hulla DVD > you get 2 FREE BONUS CDs (a $30 value!): > > Anabolic Frolic live @ Hullabaloo Accelerator - This was a test run for > a "Happy2bHardcore LIVE" project that never saw release. A complete > pro-tools live audience recording putting you right into the party. This > set was also notable since it contained the Frolics' baby announcement! > > Anabolic Frolic @ MC Storm live @ Hullabaloo WEMF Stage 2002. The last > ever Hulla stage at WEMF went down in history with Frolic & Storm > together again, and the famous marriage proposal at the end of the set! > > Both these CDs are out of print and this is your only way to get them. > They're yours free (a $30 value!) for anyone adding a Hulla Friend > Membership to their OMGH box set and/or DVD order. > > > Only a limited number of Hulla Friend Memberships will be sold and this > offer can be rescinded at any time. It's not our intention to sell-out > next year's Hullabaloo reunion before tickets even go on sale so we will > cut these off at any time. But for those of you that get in before > they're gone you're getting a great value and you can mark next year's > date off the calendar knowing you've got a head start on tickets. We.ll > also be using a new ticketing system for next year.s event which won.t > falter under the volume of orders, so we expect tickets to sell out even > faster (in hours, or even minutes?), so this will give you some > breathing room. > > Hulla Friend Memberships go on sale tomorrow (August 2nd) at the > HullaStore, along with pre-orders of the OMGH box set of recordings and > Hulla DVDs > > -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- > > varied TROUTS PICKS varied > > trout's picks,,,,, these are a list of random things that aren't really > rave/"electronica" related but might be fun in any event. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Madison Ave Art Walk (Cleveland) > On Friday, October 5, 2007, MAMA(Madison Avenue Merchants Association) > in conjunction with Lakewood Is Art (LIA) will launch it.s first ever > MAMA LIA Art Walk. The Walk will begin at 6pm and go through 10pm. > > What is an Art Walk? > An art walk is an event enjoyed in many communities around the country. > It is a designated day and time that galleries and art studios, shops > and restaurants, all join forces to create a extraordinary time for > visitors to go from place to place feasting both their eyes and their > taste buds as they stroll through town enjoying the best of what is > offered by its artists. Local restaurants may offer Art Walk specials. > Street corners and shops feature entertainment treats such as musicians > and singers, jugglers and poets. It is also a splendid occasion to > purchase interesting pieces of art at very affordable prices.The Art > Walk process is simple . proceed at your own pace, wander into galleries > and businesses that capture your fancy, stroll around a delightful area > punctuated by, historic architecture, restaurants, quaint businesses and > more. > > How do I do the Art Walk? > Come to Madison Avenue and pick up a Art Walk Guide, available at all > participating shops and restaurants. The guide has a map locating all > the featured art exhibits. And off you go! Begin anywhere, go in any > order you like, visit as many as you like. All exhibits and > entertainment are free of charge. Signage at the entrance to each > exhibit will indicate audience age appropriateness. For advance > information regarding specific exhibits, which for updates to our > website! > > What can I expect from this Art Walk? > Be prepared to be surprised by the wide array of artistic styles that > are represented this evening in businesses," from landscapes to > cutting-edge contemporary, from paintings to pottery. The Art Walk will > keep you on your cultural toes!An Art Walk is also a great place to > "people watch." Sure, artists may be "guested" at individual "gallery" > receptions, or demonstrating their work, but the art-walking public > itself offers up a wide slice of life, a mix of locals and visitors of > all kinds.Art Walk participants in cities from Tremont to Toronto, often > plan an entire evening that combines an Art Walk with a foray for > drinks, dining or the theater. So, complete your evening with a visit to > one of the many eateries, or clubs. Join the fun, become part of the > Madison Avenue art scene, and Art Walk with us! If you would like to > participate as an artist, a performer or a volunteer, contact > rkoenigsmark@yahoo.com or call 216.521.2894 > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > zombiefest 2007 - oct 27-28 > > http://www.theitsaliveshow.com/Zombiefest2007.htm > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > april 4-8, 2008 - http://www.notacon.org/ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > armageddicon III - http://animepunch.org/ > > -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- > > compiled, but not necessarily current, as of Thu Oct 4 07:13:02 EDT 2007. > > -- > you fucked polka royalty? > did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? > > > -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90446-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 05 00:58:04 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90446-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 61783 invoked by uid 1162); 5 Oct 2007 00:58:03 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 61765 invoked from network); 5 Oct 2007 00:58:03 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=FZyEjJFY25sbJKSDwYvRTzuMQzRIpln77lh9QqCFGjg=; b=tkF2ii0UckdfdHwSVaRSOTLtofPJ3BPT2o3i/v5XV5K7cKykwDmdWy33qQ129rX5u9IQC9rsKvbE8mcj8L697ZM5ijSTanh/+FYxUN0ZpA2XzFyM5E2upcYfvw5Mzxfou5XwRD2KlQP91ci2XyKb3Y3gtzammuyQ4NQM85Mnf7E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=kG4heNyzB5YXImfaqjfYMVRtNfUqJD6QJUSgpY2UneqWkQBCeFRWWcKusYMDPHjinnZlplqVunlkQkQ6ffyvstHsAoAhf87+Fv3aNtDS1zPNYD+lA8G/CUEous0w/mzRi0Ky/09xPHV3/IXUOiUNCjBNde6J21Euq78TEVb8mi0= Message-ID: <47058C39.9050007@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 20:58:33 -0400 From: trout <troutsoup@gmail.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org References: <20071004111302.84442.qmail@hyperreal.org> <47058603.4040809@sbcglobal.net> In-Reply-To: <47058603.4040809@sbcglobal.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} R.O.M.10.04.07 yeah the ROM is fatter than its been in years. weird?? Paul Berezansky wrote: > Damn there's a lot of shows coming up. > > trout@hyperreal.org wrote: >> -=<O>=---------------------------------------------------------------=<O>=- >> >> The Pittsburgh-Cleveland-Toronto Rave-0-Matic mkIV >> Maintained by Trout Soup >> Under the same management since 1996 >> -=<O>=---------------------------------------------------------------=<O>=- > -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90447-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 05 16:20:43 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90447-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 54835 invoked by uid 1162); 5 Oct 2007 16:20:42 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 54806 invoked from network); 5 Oct 2007 16:20:41 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=TGvpPUR9/X9LKNulU1TLFkhyB6UJDR+kj/tZ8xv2OYM3emeaO8aqT3tu1brPa8rDk2wX7KsZYUvCvhE2D20QI9vpjSR4C6rwUNrZtMVhlQ5E1lDjtLO15ubTvRC9cLCPwSGHI7CeIvQHrMujfd5FKBDrpwKOySL7Ah2W2+EnGzQ=; X-YMail-OSG: mO_GteYVM1lkhHT0q1ybt0vWtbvEJXmBI7dzCMMqz6Uu0b1X3_YCOn4gooT7n3OrebPenteaoPT6rxYd1Nm5uQH39KaLf17oVKXfDbTbzvLl1ipPiZvMEebc8wi4_bQE1FAVmsJX4oryJcnbPKxJAlxE Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 09:20:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Amanda von Schtupp <a_yesko@yahoo.com> To: "pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org" <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-897584630-1191601237=:69489" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <282048.69489.qm@web54004.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: {pb-cle} NRR: What's the best movie playing right now? --0-897584630-1191601237=:69489 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I'm about to skim the salon.com reviews, but anyone see anything awesome lately that I should check out? I haven't been to a movie at a theater in 3-4 years (!) Amanda --------------------------------- Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! --0-897584630-1191601237=:69489 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I'm about to skim the salon.com reviews, but anyone see anything awesome lately that I should check out?<br><br>I haven't been to a movie at a theater in 3-4 years (!)<br><br>Amanda<br><br><p> <hr size=1>Catch up on <a href="http://us.rd.yahoo.com/tv/mail/tagline/falltv/evt=47093/*http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/3658 ">fall's hot new shows</a> on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! --0-897584630-1191601237=:69489-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90448-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 05 16:32:58 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90448-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 69514 invoked by uid 1162); 5 Oct 2007 16:32:57 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 69492 invoked from network); 5 Oct 2007 16:32:57 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from; bh=FjjDqHvsjV5FTuZyd4ep9nLn+YZ99LLbUXcR7n08RlE=; b=V+1RQnyaaLxipv0q9GY/Ec3bFT9iaJ0XXb+ZjdgEIe+AcmsvZX3lANVMf4kton7+vJI8uVMYKPJx0i+lxSCoEmFeTbYuJ1yXfgSey3mWb1lV5+vtydeknVmq0cq/61D6c7ikNMA3spQcb8t7qkYxbxTHrpt+/o0A2wTl33LUnho= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from; b=dshhMv96ld5fZdU6ehSGOSp6eXCUt6jMR1FQfLlR4hhMzMIALgdEUdQEaKejBy0cLDArpOW9aCo8uEmmLOilP4N35oY6c73V0BQ4xsiJcFEvsWPAbqTrz1o/k0QZqIyhkkIYpKKVIVrxWDRFN+k1JZjxyKFiXkkBtsd5x+fA4Nk= Message-ID: <47066759.5080404@pornstarstyle.com> Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2007 12:33:29 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org" <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> References: <282048.69489.qm@web54004.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <282048.69489.qm@web54004.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: trout <troutsoup@gmail.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} NRR: What's the best movie playing right now? everyone is ranting about 'superbad.' i might be headed to clev today and was talking of catching a flick up there, but thats still up in the air. i waned to check 'superbad' and 'balls of fury' (mediocre reviews but looks funny). last time i was at the movies we snuck a bunch of beer in and were opening it when there was gunshots and explosions so people wouldnt hear em. hahahaaa for attack of the clones i think we managed to get around a case in between the bunch of us!! Amanda von Schtupp wrote: > I'm about to skim the salon.com reviews, but anyone see anything > awesome lately that I should check out? > > I haven't been to a movie at a theater in 3-4 years (!) > > Amanda -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90449-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 05 16:56:07 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90449-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 98114 invoked by uid 1162); 5 Oct 2007 16:56:06 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 98096 invoked from network); 5 Oct 2007 16:56:05 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=sYnIpO13pnxC3eeJn/Am1In3DoO7l0rPt/ipqK2m/Og=; b=f6nKIwxC1ZGPQQTPd12qd6rz1od9J1OTvVPRP2+/+PLCtcSazWQrkZTzBkh+UDD7vma/455S6UKbpZysRJAoNydvqdA6fHLX4hLG51x51W+N+KuYi0c7V4OyqkvnTm8gGt3GnUOYmcY6beHVK81wfogpAHX4FDxuHg7qjHDwZtM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=bY7fEVWB35mGx5pXom6JF+mtR2tX8wp8+RGsdq4+DmCuVkKVpMWqWBqc9SODEWFg9DaLwft49hP7Aa2HbHtT3NeSLkG0kN+t1bQFmqcVoKS3d0x3Yx/hgcEIsDieIBrBeK7hM692sPHAdF1T+P1nV6PP91uMCLGNAgn8EzMluGs= Message-ID: <e23444c80710050956p4b1674c7t537451056e269383@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 12:56:05 -0400 From: "Ed Rodgers" <ed.rodgers@gmail.com> To: trout <troutsoup@gmail.com> Cc: "pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org" <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> In-Reply-To: <47066759.5080404@pornstarstyle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_13485_28134433.1191603365219" References: <282048.69489.qm@web54004.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <47066759.5080404@pornstarstyle.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} NRR: What's the best movie playing right now? ------=_Part_13485_28134433.1191603365219 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline i once had a co worker who also was a manager at a small AMC 8 in columbus at night... on wednesday nights at 10 (-during winter, 11 in summer) when the theatre closed, we'd have 'private screenings' of whatever the top movie for the week that was coming out friday. everyone was encouraged to bring their own beer and people were able to smoke in the theatreb (smokers in the back). that was the best. it stinks they closed down the theatre... i probably saw at least 50 movies for free over 2 years when i could make it. i seem to have the most vivid memories of "Evolution (anyone remember that retarded movie?)" and Attack of the Clones, since those were the movies that for whatever reason there were about 50 or so people that all showed up, usually there were only about 10-15 of us...about 2/3 of the way through every movie, it would just be rediculously loud with all the drunks and pooot-heads. it made for a rough thursday morning, but was worth it. this was also around the same time that another friend was showing 'pre-screener' movies whenever possible on friday nights... i remember seeing American Pie when it was still in workprint and its name was "Great Falls" - cause that was the name of the high school... i have no clue where he was getting them, but they were all pre-production releases where even some had the SMPTE timecodes on them still and some had the 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 screens between Acts of the movie... and something blah blah about gatsby so that s/he is not forgotten this time. On 10/5/07, trout <troutsoup@gmail.com> wrote: > > everyone is ranting about 'superbad.' i might be headed to clev today > and was talking of catching a flick up there, but thats still up in the > air. i waned to check 'superbad' and 'balls of fury' (mediocre reviews > but looks funny). > > last time i was at the movies we snuck a bunch of beer in and were > opening it when there was gunshots and explosions so people wouldnt hear > em. hahahaaa > > for attack of the clones i think we managed to get around a case in > between the bunch of us!! > > Amanda von Schtupp wrote: > > I'm about to skim the salon.com reviews, but anyone see anything > > awesome lately that I should check out? > > > > I haven't been to a movie at a theater in 3-4 years (!) > > > > Amanda > > > -- > you fucked polka royalty? > did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? > > ------=_Part_13485_28134433.1191603365219 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline <div>i once had a co worker who also was a manager at a small AMC 8 in columbus at night... on wednesday nights at 10 (-during winter, 11 in summer) when the theatre closed, we'd have 'private screenings' of whatever the top movie for the week that was coming out friday.  everyone was encouraged to bring their own beer and people were able to smoke in the theatreb (smokers in the back).  that was the best.  </div> <div> </div> <div>it stinks they closed down the theatre... i probably saw at least 50 movies for free over 2 years when i could make it.  i seem to have the most vivid memories of "Evolution (anyone remember that retarded movie?)" and Attack of the Clones, since those were the movies that for whatever reason there were about 50 or so people that all showed up, usually there were only about 10-15 of us...about 2/3 of the way through every movie, it would just be rediculously loud with all the drunks and pooot-heads.  it made for a rough thursday morning, but was worth it. </div> <div> </div> <div>this was also around the same time that another friend was showing 'pre-screener' movies whenever possible on friday nights... i remember seeing American Pie when it was still in workprint and its name was "Great Falls" - cause that was the name of the high school... i have no clue where he was getting them, but they were all pre-production releases where even some had the SMPTE timecodes on them still and some had the 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 screens between Acts of the movie... </div> <div> </div> <div>and something blah blah about gatsby so that s/he is not forgotten this time.</div> <div> </div> <div><br><br> </div> <div><span class="gmail_quote">On 10/5/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">trout</b> <<a href="mailto:troutsoup@gmail.com">troutsoup@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">everyone is ranting about 'superbad.'  i might be headed to clev today<br>and was talking of catching a flick up there, but thats still up in the <br>air.  i waned to check 'superbad' and 'balls of fury' (mediocre reviews<br>but looks funny).<br><br>last time i was at the movies we snuck a bunch of beer in and were<br>opening it when there was gunshots and explosions so people wouldnt hear <br>em.   hahahaaa<br><br>for attack of the clones i think we managed to get around a case in<br>between the bunch of us!!<br><br>Amanda von Schtupp wrote:<br>> I'm about to skim the <a href="http://salon.com">salon.com </a> reviews, but anyone see anything<br>> awesome lately that I should check out?<br>><br>> I haven't been to a movie at a theater in 3-4 years (!)<br>><br>> Amanda<br><br><br>--<br>you fucked polka royalty? <br>did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it?<br><br></blockquote></div><br> ------=_Part_13485_28134433.1191603365219-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90450-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 05 17:16:15 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90450-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19637 invoked by uid 1162); 5 Oct 2007 17:16:15 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19607 invoked from network); 5 Oct 2007 17:16:14 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=nOgoztgOlik5KgQbsz0L6rwRgKdgsWvD+hJrwpXirlI=; b=rLbqW6wRFmkh4XBa2HDltKddd/3T7Ijw/zZzIOtg7/uZsmbF5RHs2BhGAfe+5kp/IVdeUeBgni33n+M4Z/ohNXh1LEYKvyo4as+Tq+Ee+OamWRoSASrFe25IiZ5oxVNOtCGXZWB0318WpK+9Djn7X4zyeBaq03GbzlG2vAij2RU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=IHdESmjQSh3563jon/ataS1GwWDWoxWgrmmnwhJQG+VD0C+MEYlQ5vW5Rydyeid0b5cnmmpVa+25mVZ0JhWJVsNx5OEhlsX6D495kpu0IaUVyWlmLnA7hpC+wIC05+1Xh3cO28FXIXbOq5mdXYcUFho21N1IKhEG3axWhI39VNI= Message-ID: <47067181.80508@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2007 13:16:49 -0400 From: trout <troutsoup@gmail.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: peebeecle <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> References: <282048.69489.qm@web54004.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <47066759.5080404@pornstarstyle.com> <e23444c80710050956p4b1674c7t537451056e269383@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <e23444c80710050956p4b1674c7t537451056e269383@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} NRR: What's the best movie playing right now? there was a theater in warren that some people would do that at. we rolled in a keg on a couple occasions :) Ed Rodgers wrote: > i once had a co worker who also was a manager at a small AMC 8 in > columbus at night... on wednesday nights at 10 (-during winter, 11 in > summer) when the theatre closed, we'd have 'private screenings' of > whatever the top movie for the week that was coming out friday. > everyone was encouraged to bring their own beer and people were able > to smoke in the theatreb (smokers in the back). that was the best. > > it stinks they closed down the theatre... i probably saw at least 50 > movies for free over 2 years when i could make it. i seem to have the > most vivid memories of "Evolution (anyone remember that retarded > movie?)" and Attack of the Clones, since those were the movies that > for whatever reason there were about 50 or so people that all showed > up, usually there were only about 10-15 of us...about 2/3 of the way > through every movie, it would just be rediculously loud with all the > drunks and pooot-heads. it made for a rough thursday morning, but was > worth it. > > this was also around the same time that another friend was showing > 'pre-screener' movies whenever possible on friday nights... i remember > seeing American Pie when it was still in workprint and its name was > "Great Falls" - cause that was the name of the high school... i have > no clue where he was getting them, but they were all pre-production > releases where even some had the SMPTE timecodes on them still and > some had the 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 screens between Acts of the movie... -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? 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Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 37105 invoked from network); 5 Oct 2007 17:35:43 -0000 Message-ID: <35717.151.201.138.129.1191605246.squirrel@webmail.chemlab.org> In-Reply-To: <47066759.5080404@pornstarstyle.com> References: <282048.69489.qm@web54004.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <47066759.5080404@pornstarstyle.com> Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 13:27:26 -0400 (EDT) From: "Denae" <denae@chemlab.org> To: "trout" <troutsoup@gmail.com> Cc: "pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org" <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.5.1 [CVS] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} NRR: What's the best movie playing right now? eels.wmv? On Fri, October 5, 2007 12:33 pm, trout wrote: > everyone is ranting about 'superbad.' i might be headed to clev today and > was talking of catching a flick up there, but thats still up in the air. > i waned to check 'superbad' and 'balls of fury' (mediocre reviews but > looks funny). > > last time i was at the movies we snuck a bunch of beer in and were opening > it when there was gunshots and explosions so people wouldnt hear em. > hahahaaa > > for attack of the clones i think we managed to get around a case in > between the bunch of us!! > > Amanda von Schtupp wrote: > >> I'm about to skim the salon.com reviews, but anyone see anything >> awesome lately that I should check out? >> >> I haven't been to a movie at a theater in 3-4 years (!) >> >> >> Amanda >> > > > -- > you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you > were hittin' it? > > -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? 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Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 62855 invoked from network); 5 Oct 2007 17:56:35 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=x8+ruFO7Y3UYplITnMqZoy4Gz5c3kGnXYXTUfuc9B9U=; b=RUQ5z0ASA/EDhAEkFv6xEpPdfjguj6fcQKy3vmQ/z0vonlkipdRH5IkBGKFiE8c2ZeLzJuqRugMxcq5y6r6fRGmoWJ6UmEpIuht7vjFhOSFxuz2AJaan3Xu4Hz5b6fe4n5GB/EZzhzetBvVnFEc0XbQBZYjVCF1ixjmpXuKcArE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=tqgIg2939bs2EWDrSDlsYNXVKWCYsw/oE7JcHYXVzdM/ZKDbuHro65uxd4nxaL89WSCo/4DlrybIPvVeZSGGfm8vJOctMt4kWtHYRqihC175Pf4ffpUYMlCIuPbhXan+b8YjZx9rPTAqgEtieN3o1PZ9upaNAGFvbd+sOZXGXaU= Message-ID: <47067AF7.2020505@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2007 13:57:11 -0400 From: trout <troutsoup@gmail.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org" <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> References: <282048.69489.qm@web54004.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <47066759.5080404@pornstarstyle.com> <35717.151.201.138.129.1191605246.squirrel@webmail.chemlab.org> In-Reply-To: <35717.151.201.138.129.1191605246.squirrel@webmail.chemlab.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} NRR: What's the best movie playing right now? electric? Denae wrote: > eels.wmv? > > On Fri, October 5, 2007 12:33 pm, trout wrote: > >> everyone is ranting about 'superbad.' i might be headed to clev today and >> was talking of catching a flick up there, but thats still up in the air. >> i waned to check 'superbad' and 'balls of fury' (mediocre reviews but >> looks funny). >> >> last time i was at the movies we snuck a bunch of beer in and were opening >> it when there was gunshots and explosions so people wouldnt hear em. >> hahahaaa >> >> for attack of the clones i think we managed to get around a case in >> between the bunch of us!! >> >> Amanda von Schtupp wrote: >> >> >>> I'm about to skim the salon.com reviews, but anyone see anything >>> awesome lately that I should check out? >>> >>> I haven't been to a movie at a theater in 3-4 years (!) >>> >>> >>> Amanda >>> >>> >> -- >> you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you >> were hittin' it? >> >> >> > > > > -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? 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Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 42378 invoked from network); 5 Oct 2007 19:23:06 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=hjeI2VUvkbHK+6e3wbeWgq3B+kcycmcZ39AK/MoJqaI=; b=gm7m29onj9cMDDpiWWvDSeSKorT0t3dA/eOHp+jW4AdpAAect05SVOD7IW8plvdFLQLpfZAgD13ljWNtqbWmch8qDHM6Hf8vMKo1lrBnT75Qy18QLcDNkauOkmj+gBei8gfeCj8KL8bak/fJv96MnCZsHUgqjgLB5gRPP+xl1qQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=hFXsXIqrum+vC5v4546JrvqigatHVyTlOhnkBVK2uqsfAC5JiQPltA3sH97YsvPBTFQ3LT3XXJst/ZoCznUI2f3TIW37xYrpCmOOS9biJTMgaUvq1wHNP8sHb8PGfswN9WxlV0qULQJXtyorhc7Tap3REh6plex8wCfnWpwpTfs= Message-ID: <8641c6dd0710051223v7e0ce387i2315487808a47100@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 15:23:04 -0400 From: "[mark ]" <hypnotyza@gmail.com> To: "Ed Rodgers" <ed.rodgers@gmail.com> Cc: trout <troutsoup@gmail.com>, "pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org" <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> In-Reply-To: <e23444c80710050956p4b1674c7t537451056e269383@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <282048.69489.qm@web54004.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <47066759.5080404@pornstarstyle.com> <e23444c80710050956p4b1674c7t537451056e269383@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} NRR: What's the best movie playing right now? <<memories of "Evolution (anyone remember that retarded movie?)">> YEAH! I was watching a "history of techno" video on Google Vids, taped from BBC. they left the commercials in, and it must've been around '02 because they were advertising that movie coming out on "video and dvd"... (hehe, only a few short years, and VHS has gone the way of the 8-track...) david duchovney (sp?) and the 7-up guy...and julianne moore (swoon!) terrible movie. -- "When love is gone, there's always justice. And when justice is gone, there's always force." --- Laurie Anderson, "O Superman" Blind faith in bad leadership is not "Patriotism". -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90456-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 05 19:29:44 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90456-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 49824 invoked by uid 1162); 5 Oct 2007 19:29:43 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 49790 invoked from network); 5 Oct 2007 19:29:43 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=eHoK6R8a7xR4Mzuq0lNxoNnpTI2amKGiGTZ/wVQPHNY=; b=DYhjggKY/nJb9bbFoiSoQFZiIMC4P71chonxral/w7iO6LRiXYZP2i8hcQbBIBXDo/zgcF+g4KDSapaL1zQAaZcjN7Z5bQRpS/tzCkn2D4mwrwJpPHTptzOR/yT90VD5+eoCbvJ6u8YySPq6qtQF5fYpXLbCTZxRjSONeAYy7aw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ex0+Agwyyc7ZGpNPSaDssewTy6m7dZqaXb3csCqHBLGGracLXtn2en7CK3iYsq90TvW/Vlsl8ssZ5AlOhUzHBaKUZibBoNEdEtt6fcN7pz1r07M3G1DllGgvpEQlQf7EuG00T6BxumW3Jq/k0ELfH5L7mcSzeZjRyaH4M7W/gQ4= Message-ID: <e23444c80710051229w7a4f4165ya7359684bd7a9309@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 15:29:43 -0400 From: "Ed Rodgers" <ed.rodgers@gmail.com> To: "[mark ]" <hypnotyza@gmail.com> Cc: trout <troutsoup@gmail.com>, "pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org" <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> In-Reply-To: <8641c6dd0710051223v7e0ce387i2315487808a47100@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_13781_10615071.1191612583072" References: <282048.69489.qm@web54004.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <47066759.5080404@pornstarstyle.com> <e23444c80710050956p4b1674c7t537451056e269383@mail.gmail.com> <8641c6dd0710051223v7e0ce387i2315487808a47100@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} NRR: What's the best movie playing right now? ------=_Part_13781_10615071.1191612583072 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline speakign of outdated technology... this is still non-rave related. so if burned cd-r's and dvd-r's have a shelf life of like 10 years... what is the best way to archive a bunch of data that you will always want to have? i swear i read that somewhere and i believe it cause i have some cd-r's that just start 'flaking' that are about 8-10 years old. ... i'm just thinking of all the footage of my kid that i tape and then dump to hard drive... then i make dvd copies of the data (AVCHD is schweet btw). if these are only good for < 10 years should i pull them out every 5 years and make another copy, or can i move backward in technology to putting them on something like tape drives or storing them on a gmail account :) although 2GB only gets me about 30 minutes of HD footage, that's a LOT of gmail accounts. anyone have any suggestions that dont involve actually getting the discs pressed so they last longer? On 10/5/07, [mark ] <hypnotyza@gmail.com> wrote: > > <<memories of "Evolution (anyone remember that retarded movie?)">> > > YEAH! I was watching a "history of techno" video on Google Vids, taped > from BBC. they left the commercials in, and it must've been around '02 > because they were advertising that movie coming out on "video and > dvd"... (hehe, only a few short years, and VHS has gone the way of the > 8-track...) > > david duchovney (sp?) and the 7-up guy...and julianne moore (swoon!) > > terrible movie. > > > -- > "When love is gone, there's always justice. > And when justice is gone, there's always force." > --- Laurie Anderson, "O Superman" > > Blind faith in bad leadership is not "Patriotism". > ------=_Part_13781_10615071.1191612583072 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline <div>speakign of outdated technology...</div> <div> </div> <div>this is still non-rave related. </div> <div> </div> <div>so if burned cd-r's and dvd-r's have a shelf life of like 10 years... what is the best way to archive a bunch of data that you will always want to have?  i swear i read that somewhere and i believe it cause i have some cd-r's that just start 'flaking' that are about 8-10 years old. ... </div> <div> </div> <div>i'm just thinking of all the footage of my kid that i tape and then dump to hard drive... then i make dvd copies of the data (AVCHD is schweet btw).  if these are only good for < 10 years should i pull them out every 5 years and make another copy, or can i move backward in technology to putting them on something like tape drives or storing them on a gmail account :) although 2GB only gets me about 30 minutes of HD footage, that's a LOT of gmail accounts. </div> <div> </div> <div>anyone have any suggestions that dont involve actually getting the discs pressed so they last longer?<br><br> </div> <div><span class="gmail_quote">On 10/5/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">[mark ]</b> <<a href="mailto:hypnotyza@gmail.com">hypnotyza@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid"><<memories of "Evolution (anyone remember that retarded movie?)">><br><br>YEAH! I was watching a "history of techno" video on Google Vids, taped <br>from BBC. they left the commercials in, and it must've been around '02<br>because they were advertising that movie coming out on "video and<br>dvd"... (hehe, only a few short years, and VHS has gone the way of the <br>8-track...)<br><br>david duchovney (sp?) and the 7-up guy...and julianne moore (swoon!)<br><br>terrible movie.<br><br><br>--<br>"When love is gone, there's always justice.<br>And when justice is gone, there's always force." <br>        --- Laurie Anderson, "O Superman"<br><br>Blind faith in bad leadership is not "Patriotism".<br></blockquote></div><br> ------=_Part_13781_10615071.1191612583072-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90457-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 05 19:31:28 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90457-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 51477 invoked by uid 1162); 5 Oct 2007 19:31:27 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 51455 invoked from network); 5 Oct 2007 19:31:27 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=zEtJDZzPRQKxO9piy6P6tBuAZqVQRhnw+nJneizkeCk=; b=MlcOvv42tL3OPW/3PCiivMd3XN04u70aA4w6xcgz1upBnrthPz3gkaRu/IBDJfHnHvqp7MyqnFf4vwdZT4hyNl0k3YjWJBUD3D/4pTMh0+V92oic+juchLEZKl8DClMytiljewya3F/DkwTM0lD3YTux0BH1AerH6o3o/vdgBm8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=qqzYBYssZ+LQLnyr32ratNF4E0L24sgftFgcsoIZL1PZjLnFswRe1AZtrt98RAQjfCH7QknEHlAIHYKBQJ5u3EWyXnxXj1NN6F8jTkKOEw6jiMuTz+hnljbIUHr/Mdkj2M7wnmvx01hlEVWkC9ssqqVrm4GA9p5lZPVwNdESbF0= Message-ID: <8641c6dd0710051231p2b3691e8w88481f6e2f966ef5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 15:31:25 -0400 From: "[mark ]" <hypnotyza@gmail.com> To: "Gatsby9@aol.com" <Gatsby9@aol.com> Cc: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <be3.1fbfa8b3.3437cd29@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <be3.1fbfa8b3.3437cd29@aol.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} NRR: What's the best movie playing right now? <<A friend of mine sent me the trailer for Across the Universe (though I think it opens next weekend)... it's an all Beatles soundtrack,>> as a big big Beatles fan, i was pretty excited about this...i got the soundtrack as a promo from a friend, and was so INCREDIBLY disappointed i'm doubting whether i'll see the movie. maybe context is everything, but it seems like they sucked all of the life out of every upbeat song they used ("I Want To Hold Your Hand") and turned it into a Celine Dion-worthy ballad. lots of suck. LOTS. oddly enough, I thought Bono did a passable job with "I Am The Walrus". he kind of made it even bigger and more ridiculous...which (for that type of song) works! <<Reminded me of the visuals in Romeo & Juliet but better.>> Romeo + Juliet was fantastic...an excellent interpolation, and a brilliant choice on Luhrman's part to stick with the original text and not "hip it up for the 90's". even though the visual aspect is firmly rooted in the 20th century, the dialogue gives it a more timeless feel. I just watched it again the other night on Fox Movie Channel, and it was just as good as the first time i saw it. m -- "When love is gone, there's always justice. And when justice is gone, there's always force." --- Laurie Anderson, "O Superman" Blind faith in bad leadership is not "Patriotism". -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90458-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 05 19:40:05 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90458-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 60088 invoked by uid 1162); 5 Oct 2007 19:40:05 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 60072 invoked from network); 5 Oct 2007 19:40:05 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=7fn28dq+pvOACSRUxQVtLyRfn++WN8HPCc1RrCoYjVk=; b=keZKNboaPzp060kICNYYZEgpkThTXkpXL4yNTQwMPC22Tby4HeZvs7P8249/u+MzaJzil9XanH/aYkBefzimCDaQHUecybBh7BsHekwwCtgTuoeAuCjT1uI5+es4qULfO4Bg9AEE9/VFtIDjPUDD7qaIk6WfQe4pBwiTg4fOYdk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=PeyPKW1RnnUIlQ8p0Om4c340Dzpkh/quTzfak0UvX0XG06DdKj5jAY0OJzTOHEInTTe3V93ipJRNEe53X9RKNRaGDqSw7kvlQTLSsuJ9Cm9u4Yjq8LggTZF/lL6UEUip8TJK47ZLba93FdfSZhe0ZJWXycWXtRev//HXLethxrI= Message-ID: <47069338.6030800@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2007 15:40:40 -0400 From: trout <troutsoup@gmail.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org" <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> References: <282048.69489.qm@web54004.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <47066759.5080404@pornstarstyle.com> <e23444c80710050956p4b1674c7t537451056e269383@mail.gmail.com> <8641c6dd0710051223v7e0ce387i2315487808a47100@mail.gmail.com> <e23444c80710051229w7a4f4165ya7359684bd7a9309@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <e23444c80710051229w7a4f4165ya7359684bd7a9309@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} NRR: What's the best movie playing right now? Ed Rodgers wrote: > anyone have any suggestions that dont involve actually getting the > discs pressed so they last longer? i've read about archival quality discs that are rated 70-100 years. they use different dyes and metals. not sure where to get em or brand names tho. -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90459-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 05 19:51:01 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90459-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 72980 invoked by uid 1162); 5 Oct 2007 19:51:00 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 72936 invoked from network); 5 Oct 2007 19:50:59 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=ILLPcbmXZfvcoDoEm7ILGVAobJSvspIH55b1eoyMAtk=; b=Gu/zjTAAvYBrUB6oiOv4uzbmAhp8ny70FcxIE2DjAufoGdD8xEJhCWGMU3j3Bem9yAqUT6KyEVg8Xbd8ygmhvsc52DR4LRO7VGc4yGgpPHXyipcL1IhdfqDj5iYYVBiz5DDJYQYKWVDWGhBu8hB6muW/iNGY+6UPn8/oD6iwNLU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=trSrBNSqD32eLeXRL1O74Fi3/I1i/aIYp4I1923asrDSHP2Od2GeRyYgNU/ETAeaGy7Ig8wb0M1GxVz8dvcLEIwznfSLHtwqqkUZ7XKx5E2JcJHLfqvKWQuNeS56EzMpbuuHCfO2ag4fEN2j0e3IpL1DIZEDNIWnGHJ8hmEWcK0= In-Reply-To: <e23444c80710051229w7a4f4165ya7359684bd7a9309@mail.gmail.com> References: <282048.69489.qm@web54004.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <47066759.5080404@pornstarstyle.com> <e23444c80710050956p4b1674c7t537451056e269383@mail.gmail.com> <8641c6dd0710051223v7e0ce387i2315487808a47100@mail.gmail.com> <e23444c80710051229w7a4f4165ya7359684bd7a9309@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3-705757773 Message-Id: <261AB5CE-3C53-4CE7-AEDB-9CA7BB2F0774@gmail.com> Cc: Ed Rodgers <ed.rodgers@gmail.com> From: Michael Danko <dankster@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 15:50:38 -0400 To: pb-cle-raves -cle <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} NRR: What's the best movie playing right now? --Apple-Mail-3-705757773 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I've had a conversation with Brian about that a few times with all his picture taking and all, and some folks at work here too. There's faults to everything, and only one way to really keep data for a long time at a good price point. Flash memory: Keeps forever, so long as you don't use it. Can be sorta pricey when you talk about mass storage. Offline Hard drives: They could keep for a long time should you copy everything over and shelf them right away. Experience dictates otherwise. DVD's and CD's: You've covered it. RAID: Getting cheaper, but still ass expensive and consumes a lot of space. Tape: LTO & DAT 72 are the way to go. If you want serious storage, you end up going LTO-4, 800GB uncompressed, 1.6GB compressed. If you look at the specs on good DAT72 tapes, you can run thousands and thousands of passes and have a shelf life of 10 years. Ok, same as DVD. LTO is the way to go with 30+ years shelf life and the aforementioned storage space. I seriously looked into tape storage for myself, but the cost for an LTO-4 drive is still pretty prohibitive... the cheapest I've found is about $3000. The tapes themselves aren't too expensive, if you look around you can find them for around $30. BUT, when you weigh out how much you have to store and if its a lot, you're looking at saving yourself a lot of money by going LTO-4. - mike On Oct 5, 2007, at 3:29 PM, Ed Rodgers wrote: > speakign of outdated technology... > > this is still non-rave related. > > so if burned cd-r's and dvd-r's have a shelf life of like 10 > years... what is the best way to archive a bunch of data that you > will always want to have? i swear i read that somewhere and i > believe it cause i have some cd-r's that just start 'flaking' that > are about 8-10 years old. ... > > i'm just thinking of all the footage of my kid that i tape and then > dump to hard drive... then i make dvd copies of the data (AVCHD is > schweet btw). if these are only good for < 10 years should i pull > them out every 5 years and make another copy, or can i move > backward in technology to putting them on something like tape > drives or storing them on a gmail account :) although 2GB only gets > me about 30 minutes of HD footage, that's a LOT of gmail accounts. > > anyone have any suggestions that dont involve actually getting the > discs pressed so they last longer? > > > On 10/5/07, [mark ] <hypnotyza@gmail.com> wrote: > <<memories of "Evolution (anyone remember that retarded movie?)">> > > YEAH! I was watching a "history of techno" video on Google Vids, taped > from BBC. they left the commercials in, and it must've been around '02 > because they were advertising that movie coming out on "video and > dvd"... (hehe, only a few short years, and VHS has gone the way of the > 8-track...) > > david duchovney (sp?) and the 7-up guy...and julianne moore (swoon!) > > terrible movie. > > > -- > "When love is gone, there's always justice. > And when justice is gone, there's always force." > --- Laurie Anderson, "O Superman" > > Blind faith in bad leadership is not "Patriotism". > --Apple-Mail-3-705757773 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 <html><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; = -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "> I've had a conversation with Brian about that a few times with all his = picture taking and all, and some folks at work here too. There's faults = to everything, and only one way to really keep data for a long time at a = good price point.<div><br = class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Flash memory: Keeps = forever, so long as you don't use it. Can be sorta pricey when you talk = about mass storage.</div><div><br = class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Offline Hard drives: They = could keep for a long time should you copy everything over and shelf = them right away. Experience dictates otherwise.=A0</div><div><br = class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>DVD's and CD's: You've = covered it.=A0</div><div><br = class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>RAID: Getting cheaper, but = still ass expensive and consumes a lot of space.=A0</div><div><br = class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Tape: LTO & DAT 72 are = the way to go. If you want serious storage, you end up going LTO-4, = 800GB uncompressed, 1.6GB compressed. If you look at the specs on good = DAT72 tapes, you can run thousands and thousands of passes and have a = shelf life of 10 years. Ok, same as DVD. LTO =A0is the way to go with = 30+ years shelf life and the aforementioned storage = space.=A0</div><div><br class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>I = seriously looked into tape storage for myself, but the cost for an LTO-4 = drive is still pretty prohibitive... the cheapest I've found is about = $3000. The tapes themselves aren't too expensive, if you look around you = can find them for around $30. BUT, when you weigh out how much you have = to store and if its a lot, you're looking at saving yourself a lot of = money by going LTO-4.=A0</div><div><br = class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>- mike</div><div><br = class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><div><div>On Oct 5, 2007, = at 3:29 PM, Ed Rodgers wrote:</div><br = class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote = type=3D"cite"><div>speakign of outdated technology...</div> <div>=A0</div>= <div>this is still non-rave related. </div> <div>=A0</div> <div>so if = burned cd-r's and dvd-r's have a shelf life of like 10 years... what is = the best way to archive a bunch of data that you will always want to = have?=A0 i swear i read that somewhere and i believe it cause i have = some cd-r's that just start 'flaking' that are about 8-10 years old.=A0...= </div> <div>=A0</div> <div>i'm just thinking of all the footage of my = kid that i tape and then dump to hard drive... then i make dvd copies of = the data (AVCHD is schweet btw).=A0 if these are only good for < 10 = years should i pull them out every 5 years and make another copy, or can = i move backward in technology to putting them on something like tape = drives or storing them on a gmail account :) although 2GB only gets me = about 30 minutes of HD footage, that's a LOT of gmail accounts. </div> = <div>=A0</div> <div>anyone have any suggestions that dont involve = actually getting the discs pressed so they last longer?<br><br>=A0</div> = <div><span class=3D"gmail_quote">On 10/5/07, <b = class=3D"gmail_sendername">[mark ]</b> <<a = href=3D"mailto:hypnotyza@gmail.com">hypnotyza@gmail.com</a>> = wrote:</span> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: = 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px = solid"><<memories of "Evolution (anyone remember that retarded = movie?)">><br><br>YEAH! I was watching a "history of techno" video = on Google Vids, taped <br>from BBC. they left the commercials in, and it = must've been around '02<br>because they were advertising that movie = coming out on "video and<br>dvd"... (hehe, only a few short years, and = VHS has gone the way of the <br>8-track...)<br><br>david duchovney (sp?) = and the 7-up guy...and julianne moore (swoon!)<br><br>terrible = movie.<br><br><br>--<br>"When love is gone, there's always = justice.<br>And when justice is gone, there's always force." = <br>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0--- Laurie Anderson, "O = Superman"<br><br>Blind faith in bad leadership is not = "Patriotism".<br></blockquote></div><br></blockquote></div><br></div></bod= y></html>= --Apple-Mail-3-705757773-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90460-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 05 20:19:07 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90460-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7055 invoked by uid 1162); 5 Oct 2007 20:19:07 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7023 invoked from network); 5 Oct 2007 20:19:05 -0000 Message-ID: <47069BF1.7000101@vrillusions.com> Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2007 16:17:53 -0400 From: Todd <vr@vrillusions.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ed Rodgers <ed.rodgers@gmail.com> CC: "pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org" <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> References: <282048.69489.qm@web54004.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <47066759.5080404@pornstarstyle.com> <e23444c80710050956p4b1674c7t537451056e269383@mail.gmail.com> <8641c6dd0710051223v7e0ce387i2315487808a47100@mail.gmail.com> <e23444c80710051229w7a4f4165ya7359684bd7a9309@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <e23444c80710051229w7a4f4165ya7359684bd7a9309@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.3 OpenPGP: id=BC90230C Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms010201060202080809040709" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} NRR: What's the best movie playing right now? --------------ms010201060202080809040709 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Now I've started to hear the opposite, that burned cd-rs are lasting longer because you're just changing the phase of the chemical layer in the disc where a cd has it etched onto a piece of metal.. that can oxidize and stuff. I guess it's true the first discs that came out were crappy but as long you get some decent quality disks now the longevity is supposed to be better. The most economical one I've heard of is just using hard drives. Fill it up with data and put it in a safety deposit box and it'll last for a long time. One thing to keep in mind is technology itself can get outdated. So any media you do back it up to you have to make sure you have something to read it down the road (jazz drives, anyone?) So you may only need a little over 10 years of archivability. After which go through and move all that data onto whatever the new technology is, which will undoubtedly have higher storage capacities so you can save space. One thing I've been doing, although this is more of a backup sollution, is storing the files in multiple locations. I have a lot of my servers backup to a pentium 133mhz machine in the basement (had to use a pci ide card so it could see the large hard drive). I still have to setup remote backups. I don't really have anything "archived" in that it's copied onto something and then stored somewhere. Anything I've done I can access as I just buy bigger and bigger hard drives. So as I move stuff from smaller, older drives to newer, larger drives I am essentially just constantly refreshing the media my "archive" is on. Ed Rodgers wrote: > speakign of outdated technology... > > this is still non-rave related. > > so if burned cd-r's and dvd-r's have a shelf life of like 10 years... > what is the best way to archive a bunch of data that you will always > want to have? i swear i read that somewhere and i believe it cause i > have some cd-r's that just start 'flaking' that are about 8-10 years > old. ... > > i'm just thinking of all the footage of my kid that i tape and then dump > to hard drive... then i make dvd copies of the data (AVCHD is schweet > btw). if these are only good for < 10 years should i pull them out > every 5 years and make another copy, or can i move backward in > technology to putting them on something like tape drives or storing them > on a gmail account :) although 2GB only gets me about 30 minutes of HD > footage, that's a LOT of gmail accounts. > > anyone have any suggestions that dont involve actually getting the discs > pressed so they last longer? > > > On 10/5/07, *[mark ]* <hypnotyza@gmail.com <mailto:hypnotyza@gmail.com>> > wrote: > > <<memories of "Evolution (anyone remember that retarded movie?)">> > > YEAH! I was watching a "history of techno" video on Google Vids, taped > from BBC. they left the commercials in, and it must've been around '02 > because they were advertising that movie coming out on "video and > dvd"... 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Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24585 invoked from network); 5 Oct 2007 20:37:28 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=yUSlwZhXkpC+pWWdekjyxhhn4XzQFHY+Jgbg7b0Mzz8=; b=SisiEFZ2WDtgdgNFYCcnig94x1quQ5eG7KGRRdMhYkxaLHA66+ryHlTLaCndgCmBu54smiAWNsdVw/7qu6+5YO0b3vFRc3gBgfM7H6JvjGcZM7WrVOpxMMPEOI0h8+v1EGEz573VWR47gF9mY68eGOja40iygk8nmwSharr6luY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=WaRjl6S8uuSrsdiseBeArAMd4KNff0KCKWRSOf0RcRUFPP/mJODsA0DCgAY8tHwLpa9adkVOBAdPo2XAbzCTcWMhY1JZOHQo6p/t77+2vioPlj6jBP2fAma1T2E7qIeyRQpg+CtBds3EkVzeoIE7D5V6DHtBSG0pmNanDNGbViI= Message-ID: <4706A0AA.5050309@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2007 16:38:02 -0400 From: trout <troutsoup@gmail.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: peebeecle <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> References: <282048.69489.qm@web54004.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <47066759.5080404@pornstarstyle.com> <e23444c80710050956p4b1674c7t537451056e269383@mail.gmail.com> <8641c6dd0710051223v7e0ce387i2315487808a47100@mail.gmail.com> <e23444c80710051229w7a4f4165ya7359684bd7a9309@mail.gmail.com> <47069BF1.7000101@vrillusions.com> In-Reply-To: <47069BF1.7000101@vrillusions.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} NRR: What's the best movie playing right now? yeah i read that the original apollo lunar landing tapes they were having trouble finding a working player for the tapes, they were some specialized machines or something. Todd wrote: > One thing to keep in mind is technology itself can get > outdated. So any media you do back it up to you have to make sure you > have something to read it down the road (jazz drives, anyone?) So you > may only need a little over 10 years of archivability. -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90462-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 05 20:38:41 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90462-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26496 invoked by uid 1162); 5 Oct 2007 20:38:41 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26479 invoked from network); 5 Oct 2007 20:38:41 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=PEBn45QcYxkkFoA4tu/b0tnO4i6//4Hqggy9M2WQft8=; b=U6Ykjk8OaVMzAp+mn8pYyz5HxcFSps3wX2xSD9MQ8G+MCP+Z6K0eajd0IMAxWRiIYoipjKtLxQcdkEuGycNVL9JJTXs+B1N1i7yKpmsxMrf7s4iOEWB4MCYpfU9xOVw8soCKPtSKlbJ6AwUPxIKVjXkwfyh1GQYED8aD5OEdOlA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=kGrofv2B0GETIh5SD9c4QFu96JeZqntRx3kLv83XkpcCtP0g6m4Lj5thaIPshW3bQhuqVm3AKNG2Kf4yrlSTyfiVErLyXGSRUENXl00bTBD1eaJ9hmU+EuJf8ElE/QMLgkVHknNRRS/5BJ/uRPnS8Pp44p0hs02NglkHWfpwLGM= In-Reply-To: <47069338.6030800@gmail.com> References: <282048.69489.qm@web54004.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <47066759.5080404@pornstarstyle.com> <e23444c80710050956p4b1674c7t537451056e269383@mail.gmail.com> <8641c6dd0710051223v7e0ce387i2315487808a47100@mail.gmail.com> <e23444c80710051229w7a4f4165ya7359684bd7a9309@mail.gmail.com> <47069338.6030800@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <DE8D97D8-FE82-4B40-A602-2ED8C454189D@gmail.com> Cc: trout <troutsoup@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Michael Danko <dankster@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 16:38:31 -0400 To: pb-cle-raves -cle <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} NRR: What's the best movie playing right now? Just did the quick research, Mitsui has 300 year archive DVD's. Put it in a non-reactive case and wait. It kinda reminds me of the metal disc that went on the Voyager spacecraft. There was a copy at the NASA museum by the airport. I remember seeing it as a kid and being told that it was encoded with all sorts of things about our people and civilization. Thing was it was a gold disc that looked like a record. On Oct 5, 2007, at 3:40 PM, trout wrote: > Ed Rodgers wrote: >> anyone have any suggestions that dont involve actually getting the >> discs pressed so they last longer? > > i've read about archival quality discs that are rated 70-100 > years. they use different dyes and metals. not sure where to get > em or brand names tho. > > > -- > you fucked polka royalty? > did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? > -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90463-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 05 23:38:07 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90463-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 73154 invoked by uid 1162); 5 Oct 2007 23:38:07 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 73126 invoked from network); 5 Oct 2007 23:38:06 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=W/GqsCWkWStUC/MFJEz+4CMFfOnBhTFXR21vUf2hXPibeLdMjpwdwCIV2bBR5e6L; h=Received:To:Subject:Reply-To:From:Organization:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Date:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; To: "Amanda von Schtupp" <a_yesko@yahoo.com>, "pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org" <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> Reply-To: djentropy@mindspring.com From: "DJ Entropy" <djentropy@mindspring.com> Organization: America's #1 Hardcore DJ/Producer Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-15 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <282048.69489.qm@web54004.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2007 19:38:03 -0400 Message-ID: <op.tzqzxpobvuw4b3@tripiithemoon> In-Reply-To: <282048.69489.qm@web54004.mail.re2.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.23 (Win32) X-ELNK-Trace: 6b6f10563bc8a19efcd34c2497a6c28d40683398e744b8a44c68a0cdbb4caca8af8158fbfc37488f2601a10902912494350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 24.233.110.70 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} NRR: What's the best movie playing right now? The last movie I saw was Blades Of Glory...it was ok... Go see We Own The Night! Looks great! On Fri, 05 Oct 2007 12:20:37 -0400, Amanda von Schtupp <a_yesko@yahoo.com> wrote: > I'm about to skim the salon.com reviews, but anyone see anything awesome > lately that I should check out? > > I haven't been to a movie at a theater in 3-4 years (!) > > Amanda > > > --------------------------------- > Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get > listings, and more! -- --------------- DJ Entropy America's #1 Hardcore DJ/producer http://www.djentropy.com http://livejournal.com/users/djentropy http://www.myspace.com/djentropy "Education is useless without God and the Bible." - Noah Webster -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90464-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Oct 06 20:57:53 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90464-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 46572 invoked by uid 1162); 6 Oct 2007 20:57:52 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 46554 invoked from network); 6 Oct 2007 20:57:51 -0000 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 16:57:56 -0400 To: Michael Danko <dankster@gmail.com>, pb-cle-raves -cle <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> From: Brian SilverRaver <silverraver@silverraver.com> Cc: Ed Rodgers <ed.rodgers@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <261AB5CE-3C53-4CE7-AEDB-9CA7BB2F0774@gmail.com> References: <282048.69489.qm@web54004.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <47066759.5080404@pornstarstyle.com> <e23444c80710050956p4b1674c7t537451056e269383@mail.gmail.com> <8641c6dd0710051223v7e0ce387i2315487808a47100@mail.gmail.com> <e23444c80710051229w7a4f4165ya7359684bd7a9309@mail.gmail.com> <261AB5CE-3C53-4CE7-AEDB-9CA7BB2F0774@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_501499418==.ALT" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - alcor.lunarpages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - silverraver.com X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} NRR: What's the best movie playing right now? --=====================_501499418==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I've concluded that I keep a set of external drives as redundant backups. As I outgrow a drive, (with photo storage) I go and buy a new drive, at whatever the sweetspot is, and copy the stuff to the new drive and keep the old one. This way, not only do I have my entire archive always present (currently at about 200gb) I also have data sitting on broken-in drives (my experience is that drives will either fail within the first few months or will last for YEARS before they go) By taking a drive out of service after about a year, i keep the sweet spot. The "old" drives end up being redundant and I keep them in a safe deposit box (for fire-proofness). I've got something like 4 drives now and am getting to the point where a 500gb drive is in my near future. At 03:50 PM 10/5/2007, Michael Danko wrote: >I've had a conversation with Brian about that a few times with all >his picture taking and all, and some folks at work here too. There's >faults to everything, and only one way to really keep data for a >long time at a good price point. > >Flash memory: Keeps forever, so long as you don't use it. Can be >sorta pricey when you talk about mass storage. > >Offline Hard drives: They could keep for a long time should you copy >everything over and shelf them right away. Experience dictates otherwise. > >DVD's and CD's: You've covered it. > >RAID: Getting cheaper, but still ass expensive and consumes a lot of space. > >Tape: LTO & DAT 72 are the way to go. If you want serious storage, >you end up going LTO-4, 800GB uncompressed, 1.6GB compressed. If you >look at the specs on good DAT72 tapes, you can run thousands and >thousands of passes and have a shelf life of 10 years. Ok, same as >DVD. LTO is the way to go with 30+ years shelf life and the >aforementioned storage space. > >I seriously looked into tape storage for myself, but the cost for an >LTO-4 drive is still pretty prohibitive... the cheapest I've found >is about $3000. The tapes themselves aren't too expensive, if you >look around you can find them for around $30. BUT, when you weigh >out how much you have to store and if its a lot, you're looking at >saving yourself a lot of money by going LTO-4. > >- mike > >On Oct 5, 2007, at 3:29 PM, Ed Rodgers wrote: > >>speakign of outdated technology... >> >>this is still non-rave related. >> >>so if burned cd-r's and dvd-r's have a shelf life of like 10 >>years... what is the best way to archive a bunch of data that you >>will always want to have? i swear i read that somewhere and i >>believe it cause i have some cd-r's that just start 'flaking' that >>are about 8-10 years old. ... >> >>i'm just thinking of all the footage of my kid that i tape and then >>dump to hard drive... then i make dvd copies of the data (AVCHD is >>schweet btw). if these are only good for < 10 years should i pull >>them out every 5 years and make another copy, or can i move >>backward in technology to putting them on something like tape >>drives or storing them on a gmail account :) although 2GB only gets >>me about 30 minutes of HD footage, that's a LOT of gmail accounts. >> >>anyone have any suggestions that dont involve actually getting the >>discs pressed so they last longer? >> >> >>On 10/5/07, [mark ] <<mailto:hypnotyza@gmail.com>hypnotyza@gmail.com> wrote: >><<memories of "Evolution (anyone remember that retarded movie?)">> >> >>YEAH! I was watching a "history of techno" video on Google Vids, taped >>from BBC. they left the commercials in, and it must've been around '02 >>because they were advertising that movie coming out on "video and >>dvd"... (hehe, only a few short years, and VHS has gone the way of the >>8-track...) >> >>david duchovney (sp?) and the 7-up guy...and julianne moore (swoon!) >> >>terrible movie. >> >> >>-- >>"When love is gone, there's always justice. >>And when justice is gone, there's always force." >> --- Laurie Anderson, "O Superman" >> >>Blind faith in bad leadership is not "Patriotism". >> Jaded? Who's jaded? Browse the archives: find out how much better it USED to be: www.silverraver.com --=====================_501499418==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" <html> <body> I've concluded that I keep a set of external drives as redundant backups.  As I outgrow a drive, (with photo storage) I go and buy a new drive, at whatever the sweetspot is, and copy the stuff to the new drive and keep the old one.<br><br> This way, not only do I have my entire archive always present (currently at about 200gb) I also have data sitting on broken-in drives (my experience is that drives will either fail within the first few months or will last for YEARS before they go)  By taking a drive out of service after about a year, i keep the sweet spot.  <br><br> The "old" drives end up being redundant and I keep them in a safe deposit box (for fire-proofness).  I've got something like 4 drives now and am getting to the point where a 500gb drive is in my near future.<br><br> <br><br> At 03:50 PM 10/5/2007, Michael Danko wrote:<br> <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">I've had a conversation with Brian about that a few times with all his picture taking and all, and some folks at work here too. There's faults to everything, and only one way to really keep data for a long time at a good price point.<br><br> Flash memory: Keeps forever, so long as you don't use it. Can be sorta pricey when you talk about mass storage.<br><br> Offline Hard drives: They could keep for a long time should you copy everything over and shelf them right away. Experience dictates otherwise. <br><br> DVD's and CD's: You've covered it. <br><br> RAID: Getting cheaper, but still ass expensive and consumes a lot of space. <br><br> Tape: LTO & DAT 72 are the way to go. If you want serious storage, you end up going LTO-4, 800GB uncompressed, 1.6GB compressed. If you look at the specs on good DAT72 tapes, you can run thousands and thousands of passes and have a shelf life of 10 years. Ok, same as DVD. LTO  is the way to go with 30+ years shelf life and the aforementioned storage space. <br><br> I seriously looked into tape storage for myself, but the cost for an LTO-4 drive is still pretty prohibitive... the cheapest I've found is about $3000. The tapes themselves aren't too expensive, if you look around you can find them for around $30. BUT, when you weigh out how much you have to store and if its a lot, you're looking at saving yourself a lot of money by going LTO-4. <br><br> - mike<br><br> On Oct 5, 2007, at 3:29 PM, Ed Rodgers wrote:<br><br> <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">speakign of outdated technology...<br>  <br> this is still non-rave related. <br>  <br> so if burned cd-r's and dvd-r's have a shelf life of like 10 years... what is the best way to archive a bunch of data that you will always want to have?  i swear i read that somewhere and i believe it cause i have some cd-r's that just start 'flaking' that are about 8-10 years old. ... <br>  <br> i'm just thinking of all the footage of my kid that i tape and then dump to hard drive... then i make dvd copies of the data (AVCHD is schweet btw).  if these are only good for < 10 years should i pull them out every 5 years and make another copy, or can i move backward in technology to putting them on something like tape drives or storing them on a gmail account :) although 2GB only gets me about 30 minutes of HD footage, that's a LOT of gmail accounts. <br>  <br> anyone have any suggestions that dont involve actually getting the discs pressed so they last longer?<br><br>  <br> On 10/5/07, <b>[mark ]</b> <<a href="mailto:hypnotyza@gmail.com">hypnotyza@gmail.com</a>> wrote: <br> <dl> <dd><<memories of "Evolution (anyone remember that retarded movie?)">><br><br> <dd>YEAH! I was watching a "history of techno" video on Google Vids, taped <br> <dd>from BBC. they left the commercials in, and it must've been around '02<br> <dd>because they were advertising that movie coming out on "video and<br> <dd>dvd"... (hehe, only a few short years, and VHS has gone the way of the <br> <dd>8-track...)<br><br> <dd>david duchovney (sp?) and the 7-up guy...and julianne moore (swoon!)<br><br> <dd>terrible movie.<br><br> <br> <dd>--<br> <dd>"When love is gone, there's always justice.<br> <dd>And when justice is gone, there's always force." <br> <dd>        --- Laurie Anderson, "O Superman"<br><br> <dd>Blind faith in bad leadership is not "Patriotism".<br><br> </dl></blockquote></blockquote></body> <br> <br> <div>Jaded? Who's jaded? </div> <br> <div>Browse the archives: find out how much better it USED to be: <a href="http://www.silverraver.com/" EUDORA=AUTOURL> www.silverraver.com</a></div> </html> --=====================_501499418==.ALT-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90465-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Oct 06 20:59:18 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90465-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 47493 invoked by uid 1162); 6 Oct 2007 20:59:18 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 47476 invoked from network); 6 Oct 2007 20:59:18 -0000 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 16:59:23 -0400 To: Michael Danko <dankster@gmail.com>, pb-cle-raves -cle <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> From: Brian SilverRaver <silverraver@silverraver.com> Cc: trout <troutsoup@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <DE8D97D8-FE82-4B40-A602-2ED8C454189D@gmail.com> References: <282048.69489.qm@web54004.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <47066759.5080404@pornstarstyle.com> <e23444c80710050956p4b1674c7t537451056e269383@mail.gmail.com> <8641c6dd0710051223v7e0ce387i2315487808a47100@mail.gmail.com> <e23444c80710051229w7a4f4165ya7359684bd7a9309@mail.gmail.com> <47069338.6030800@gmail.com> <DE8D97D8-FE82-4B40-A602-2ED8C454189D@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - alcor.lunarpages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - silverraver.com X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} NRR: What's the best movie playing right now? yea, and next to the record was a schematic of how to make a record player. cool stuff At 04:38 PM 10/5/2007, Michael Danko wrote: >Just did the quick research, Mitsui has 300 year archive DVD's. Put >it in a non-reactive case and wait. > >It kinda reminds me of the metal disc that went on the Voyager >spacecraft. There was a copy at the NASA museum by the airport. I >remember seeing it as a kid and being told that it was encoded with >all sorts of things about our people and civilization. Thing was it >was a gold disc that looked like a record. > > > > >On Oct 5, 2007, at 3:40 PM, trout wrote: > >>Ed Rodgers wrote: >>>anyone have any suggestions that dont involve actually getting the >>>discs pressed so they last longer? >> >>i've read about archival quality discs that are rated 70-100 >>years. they use different dyes and metals. not sure where to get >>em or brand names tho. >> >> >>-- >>you fucked polka royalty? >>did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? > > >-- >you fucked polka royalty? >did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? Jaded? Who's jaded? Browse the archives: find out how much better it USED to be: www.silverraver.com -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90466-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Oct 07 01:25:42 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90466-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2154 invoked by uid 1162); 7 Oct 2007 01:25:42 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2138 invoked from network); 7 Oct 2007 01:25:41 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:x-mailer:mime-version:subject:content-transfer-encoding:date:references; bh=kmyImvmiF+4mK+OCntAHm/aTyG0knU1jvx6yKSsUQVg=; b=JNhmv0W6fHubXvvJH/TIcgM9Ka1iSxv++hYjkRkN+tC2cRRKbV14FrsNhiLP/OB8Ssghfm+oMzg/2fjY8jQ9wv9tVq4t9T8F2epNtqRuN3yYnpdc+vXRDOmvHpT8RsQ1noHsIJTFyc8hpSvOxBKwVMkl7K6XaXkOIjMg5vlsowY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:x-mailer:mime-version:subject:content-transfer-encoding:date:references; b=WC7oy3wmCV5KQXsgBkOvagHXBUCek+P5za72wQPKPOIaEBVUgVc0+t/5QfI2gxEgzQ90oc46AuaE07Ag5nuCqnlG7L5S6CkV8K9w3LXdPSt2LS6QkDLJf7z3R2VbRg5QdD1OrxzRx0OP96jZrDpAXMFsD3C+Kw+kUS8T6G2TKsQ= Message-Id: <6599EE08-1A2A-411E-8BC3-A6D29D8E5CFA@gmail.com> From: Michael Danko <dankster@gmail.com> To: Pubicle <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> In-Reply-To: <4707f727.26bc720a.5d9b.ffffdb9fSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (3A109a) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 3A109a) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 21:25:35 -0400 References: <282048.69489.qm@web54004.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <47066759.5080404@pornstarstyle.com> <e23444c80710050956p4b1674c7t537451056e269383@mail.gmail.com> <8641c6dd0710051223v7e0ce387i2315487808a47100@mail.gmail.com> <e23444c80710051229w7a4f4165ya7359684bd7a9309@mail.gmail.com> <47069338.6030800@gmail.com> <DE8D97D8-FE82-4B40-A602-2ED8C454189D@gmail.com> <4707f727.26bc720a.5d9b.ffffdb9fSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} NRR: What's the best movie playing right now? The whole situation reminds me of an intro to a qlimax party. Some dude rambling in English but with a thick Dutch accent about dubplates falling from the sky from an ancient alien race. By the time anyone gets that record, we'll all be dead. If its anything like earth they'll melt it down for the money. If its anything like the pb-cle, they'll be confused about whether it's vinyl or digital and complain about how the records from outer space 10 years ago were so much better. - mike On Oct 6, 2007, at 4:59 PM, Brian SilverRaver <silverraver@silverraver.com > wrote: > yea, and next to the record was a schematic of how to make a record > player. cool stuff > > > At 04:38 PM 10/5/2007, Michael Danko wrote: >> Just did the quick research, Mitsui has 300 year archive DVD's. Put >> it in a non-reactive case and wait. >> >> It kinda reminds me of the metal disc that went on the Voyager >> spacecraft. There was a copy at the NASA museum by the airport. I >> remember seeing it as a kid and being told that it was encoded with >> all sorts of things about our people and civilization. Thing was it >> was a gold disc that looked like a record. >> >> >> >> >> On Oct 5, 2007, at 3:40 PM, trout wrote: >> >>> Ed Rodgers wrote: >>>> anyone have any suggestions that dont involve actually getting the >>>> discs pressed so they last longer? >>> >>> i've read about archival quality discs that are rated 70-100 >>> years. they use different dyes and metals. not sure where to get >>> em or brand names tho. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> you fucked polka royalty? >>> did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? >> >> >> -- >> you fucked polka royalty? >> did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? > > > Jaded? Who's jaded? > > Browse the archives: find out how much better it USED to be: www.silverraver.com > > > -- > you fucked polka royalty? > did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? > -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90467-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Oct 07 06:56:38 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90467-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 61316 invoked by uid 1162); 7 Oct 2007 06:56:38 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! 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Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 35160 invoked from network); 8 Oct 2007 01:05:06 -0000 From: XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com Message-ID: <d06.1cbde4f0.343adc3c@aol.com> Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 21:05:00 EDT To: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1191805500" X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 102 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: {pb-cle} anyone listen to XM radio? -------------------------------1191805500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit what programs/channels do you like? ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -------------------------------1191805500 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3DUS-ASCII"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16527" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY id=3Drole_body style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY:=20= Arial"=20 bottomMargin=3D7 leftMargin=3D7 topMargin=3D7 rightMargin=3D7><FONT id=3Drol= e_document=20 face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D2> <DIV>what programs/channels do you like?</DIV></FONT><BR><BR><BR><DIV><FONT=20= style=3D"color: black; font: normal 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF;"><HR style=3D"MAR= GIN-TOP: 10px">See what's new at <A title=3D"http://www.aol.com?NCID=3DAOLCM= P00300000001170" href=3D"http://www.aol.com?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001170" tar= get=3D"_blank">AOL.com</A> and <A title=3D"http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?N= CID=3DAOLCMP00300000001169" href=3D"http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=3DA= OLCMP00300000001169" target=3D"_blank">Make AOL Your Homepage</A>.</FONT></D= IV></BODY></HTML> -------------------------------1191805500-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90469-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Oct 09 19:04:34 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90469-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 60315 invoked by uid 1162); 9 Oct 2007 19:04:33 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 60291 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2007 19:04:32 -0000 Message-ID: <470BD0B2.8000100@vrillusions.com> Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 15:04:18 -0400 From: Todd <vr@vrillusions.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pb-cle-raves <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.3 OpenPGP: id=BC90230C Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms020209010700020100010608" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: {pb-cle} That ghostradioshow dude on youtube --------------ms020209010700020100010608 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iARDJt2KCXk Hasn't posted anything for a while but figured a lot of people seemed to like it last time it was mentioned. He's the guy that's made a few songs and records him "making" it "live". A lot of detroit techno type stuff and this one is no different -- Todd http://www.vrillusions.com/ My PGP Key ID: 0xBC90230C --------------ms020209010700020100010608 Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIH/zCC AlowggHDoAMCAQICEBnOaT56+GercjR4qQNaMZAwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwYjELMAkGA1UE BhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMT I1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBMB4XDTA3MDEyMDA4MDA0NVoX DTA4MDEyMDA4MDA0NVowRDEfMB0GA1UEAxMWVGhhd3RlIEZyZWVtYWlsIE1lbWJlcjEhMB8G CSqGSIb3DQEJARYSdnJAdnJpbGx1c2lvbnMuY29tMIGfMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4GNADCB iQKBgQCyBZROBWIG+wjAOm7lXFoJTWKgK4ut4va3lZlJMqgsSH5pC/OLsUSsNvEgMxpCiUx7 7Yk0vb0mYusyDlbJDhHQpV5WoFQgZS/pwr9hgXFK7mJkY9PVSJVnL+Et4Lofykhgl13o93cI dkeBJwlPEYuY09/RP5aB21BdQBp9QXNrNwIDAQABoy8wLTAdBgNVHREEFjAUgRJ2ckB2cmls bHVzaW9ucy5jb20wDAYDVR0TAQH/BAIwADANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQUFAAOBgQCuGaGmCWu6CvwW D56MskhSRX5fnAdaOczha1GrRfzLkMtUQ4rmln7po8zw6crLp1qQBKZZnQIOmsOBmtoeDn06 MQwRW3EloyAd1WSg1fxOm+yJZZ9o/q2xJiont1enFAwHChJQtr/VLYwfpDTkc9Uod0275ppA RI3ffa3rjGe6ADCCAlowggHDoAMCAQICEBnOaT56+GercjR4qQNaMZAwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEF BQAwYjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0 ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBMB4XDTA3 MDEyMDA4MDA0NVoXDTA4MDEyMDA4MDA0NVowRDEfMB0GA1UEAxMWVGhhd3RlIEZyZWVtYWls IE1lbWJlcjEhMB8GCSqGSIb3DQEJARYSdnJAdnJpbGx1c2lvbnMuY29tMIGfMA0GCSqGSIb3 DQEBAQUAA4GNADCBiQKBgQCyBZROBWIG+wjAOm7lXFoJTWKgK4ut4va3lZlJMqgsSH5pC/OL sUSsNvEgMxpCiUx77Yk0vb0mYusyDlbJDhHQpV5WoFQgZS/pwr9hgXFK7mJkY9PVSJVnL+Et 4Lofykhgl13o93cIdkeBJwlPEYuY09/RP5aB21BdQBp9QXNrNwIDAQABoy8wLTAdBgNVHREE FjAUgRJ2ckB2cmlsbHVzaW9ucy5jb20wDAYDVR0TAQH/BAIwADANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQUFAAOB gQCuGaGmCWu6CvwWD56MskhSRX5fnAdaOczha1GrRfzLkMtUQ4rmln7po8zw6crLp1qQBKZZ nQIOmsOBmtoeDn06MQwRW3EloyAd1WSg1fxOm+yJZZ9o/q2xJiont1enFAwHChJQtr/VLYwf pDTkc9Uod0275ppARI3ffa3rjGe6ADCCAz8wggKooAMCAQICAQ0wDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAw gdExCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMRUwEwYDVQQIEwxXZXN0ZXJuIENhcGUxEjAQBgNVBAcTCUNhcGUg VG93bjEaMBgGA1UEChMRVGhhd3RlIENvbnN1bHRpbmcxKDAmBgNVBAsTH0NlcnRpZmljYXRp b24gU2VydmljZXMgRGl2aXNpb24xJDAiBgNVBAMTG1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFp bCBDQTErMCkGCSqGSIb3DQEJARYccGVyc29uYWwtZnJlZW1haWxAdGhhd3RlLmNvbTAeFw0w MzA3MTcwMDAwMDBaFw0xMzA3MTYyMzU5NTlaMGIxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMSUwIwYDVQQKExxU aGF3dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZyAoUHR5KSBMdGQuMSwwKgYDVQQDEyNUaGF3dGUgUGVyc29uYWwg RnJlZW1haWwgSXNzdWluZyBDQTCBnzANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAAOBjQAwgYkCgYEAxKY8VXNV +065yplaHmjAdQRwnd/p/6Me7L3N9VvyGna9fww6YfK/Uc4B1OVQCjDXAmNaLIkVcI7dyfAr hVqqP3FWy688Cwfn8R+RNiQqE88r1fOCdz0Dviv+uxg+B79AgAJk16emu59l0cUqVIUPSAR/ p7bRPGEEQB5kGXJgt/sCAwEAAaOBlDCBkTASBgNVHRMBAf8ECDAGAQH/AgEAMEMGA1UdHwQ8 MDowOKA2oDSGMmh0dHA6Ly9jcmwudGhhd3RlLmNvbS9UaGF3dGVQZXJzb25hbEZyZWVtYWls Q0EuY3JsMAsGA1UdDwQEAwIBBjApBgNVHREEIjAgpB4wHDEaMBgGA1UEAxMRUHJpdmF0ZUxh YmVsMi0xMzgwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQADgYEASIzRUIPqCy7MDaNmrGcPf6+svsIXoUOWlJ1/ TCG4+DYfqi2fNi/A9BxQIJNwPP2t4WFiw9k6GX6EsZkbAMUaC4J0niVQlGLH2ydxVyWN3amc OY6MIE9lX5Xa9/eH1sYITq726jTlEBpbNU1341YheILcIRk13iSx0x1G/11fZU8xggLjMIIC 3wIBATB2MGIxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMSUwIwYDVQQKExxUaGF3dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZyAoUHR5 KSBMdGQuMSwwKgYDVQQDEyNUaGF3dGUgUGVyc29uYWwgRnJlZW1haWwgSXNzdWluZyBDQQIQ Gc5pPnr4Z6tyNHipA1oxkDAJBgUrDgMCGgUAoIIBwzAYBgkqhkiG9w0BCQMxCwYJKoZIhvcN AQcBMBwGCSqGSIb3DQEJBTEPFw0wNzEwMDkxOTA0MThaMCMGCSqGSIb3DQEJBDEWBBSEy0Uo ev6ZQ+KfPMCCoXtmbuyt3zBSBgkqhkiG9w0BCQ8xRTBDMAoGCCqGSIb3DQMHMA4GCCqGSIb3 DQMCAgIAgDANBggqhkiG9w0DAgIBQDAHBgUrDgMCBzANBggqhkiG9w0DAgIBKDCBhQYJKwYB BAGCNxAEMXgwdjBiMQswCQYDVQQGEwJaQTElMCMGA1UEChMcVGhhd3RlIENvbnN1bHRpbmcg KFB0eSkgTHRkLjEsMCoGA1UEAxMjVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVtYWlsIElzc3Vpbmcg Q0ECEBnOaT56+GercjR4qQNaMZAwgYcGCyqGSIb3DQEJEAILMXigdjBiMQswCQYDVQQGEwJa QTElMCMGA1UEChMcVGhhd3RlIENvbnN1bHRpbmcgKFB0eSkgTHRkLjEsMCoGA1UEAxMjVGhh d3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVtYWlsIElzc3VpbmcgQ0ECEBnOaT56+GercjR4qQNaMZAwDQYJ KoZIhvcNAQEBBQAEgYAtwuDr4f5uLwdVzPo4sOTUgRNarLwhn6tyPDXAr4iZ1ggT7B/JLGqw JxUUiFWFJzZ0qnurgPeLmAWyzwy0X7xwoIEPC9Y491PYRTym0SlcDEO59AFFccHHdmyfOjEk HZ8rTHA0k9XvEgKXjUm7lMDQd7Tkpf9RBhbmUKNuNAwZuQAAAAAAAA== --------------ms020209010700020100010608-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90470-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 10 05:48:28 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90470-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 86248 invoked by uid 1162); 10 Oct 2007 05:48:27 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 86231 invoked from network); 10 Oct 2007 05:48:26 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=pgXfyuOeknh9+OxOJ3pF+J0iqMrayTThTNa561/d2/s=; b=nqbRDMTvWLUG4uFFjNVo4Kd9UgAxAEzogqIAR2fpLSai3YsLDpOSe/mTA00Nfdz4Z5X+P9qsJkuRtxv6P1Z///Dfkr/58/lr1JPRBQwzyesrgUjlv5BOyyGNETieJfqEqHj0GbYx2iFdjA8vjHrzGegjkZ4NeTrevR+50f0K+vI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=OSQMKQ8qwStvRrnnOkQglQNUf/tTblNB9fg4ckVQtChZn9Tn76wYLW6oEAFmYKkURGQcvx1bunRTcBgpD5LmjEEOH7kwxwZRoum3/jmyILf0PW/EB0eLNEokmBdkk9HN2EAjCs/jCqnVoWF7kF4jZ2pMNQxLDeuZ0WASHy08+U0= Message-ID: <4071557a0710092248r1375642as2cef0371b6b93edc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 01:48:26 -0400 From: "Kerri Smith" <faciem@gmail.com> To: Todd <vr@vrillusions.com> Cc: pb-cle-raves <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: {pb-cle} Um weird attachmehts I don't know if anyone else is getting these. but I seem to be getting solme strange attachments with emails with the list lately.... of course I don't open them on my pc, but on my mac they are invalid. anyone else get these alien messages? On 10/9/07, Todd <vr@vrillusions.com> wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iARDJt2KCXk > > Hasn't posted anything for a while but figured a lot of people seemed to > like it last time it was mentioned. He's the guy that's made a few > songs and records him "making" it "live". A lot of detroit techno type > stuff and this one is no different > > > -- > Todd > http://www.vrillusions.com/ > My PGP Key ID: 0xBC90230C > > -- Kerri Smith -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90471-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 10 07:17:35 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90471-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28208 invoked by uid 1162); 10 Oct 2007 07:17:34 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28174 invoked from network); 10 Oct 2007 07:17:33 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=v5hvWF+sHe07PKSmrxqi3q5p5L/46CjPXCfuL9SAN5c=; b=rMBuFy6iy7D3YbogzB+XDOivfGIi1rU8+fQzfsLZyE9dyfIoGDtAr1iybU/SWZY0KZjAeLrUnx3Qi13HOXHTrL5l1WsghpRg8jcneKvCFV+VbNTjsNABKZEBW1H1Tlcj0s4PdQO2eOPdDvC1OWJ+UfypJLbR0tbs9ypE+FpxD3Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=F68VBzRLD5JR/w34n55tgYw5p9GEYqkjW2/x8gc55JzIMSXcuLhtEB+j3ya8xEVDp9cs+LyTlwZjDDuKJyUBgFr7sqOXH5h/84bfaArMCi6OoOYFhVwT4Wq+1tse6JfQQbYiC4utkkLfF7h46KzrV5XAiq3I8nOtE5JSTQ5Qnxc= Message-ID: <4071557a0710100017l6aff108ap25ec451d3f20c7e1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 03:17:31 -0400 From: "Kerri Smith" <faciem@gmail.com> To: Todd <vr@vrillusions.com> Cc: pb-cle-raves <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> In-Reply-To: <4071557a0710092248r1375642as2cef0371b6b93edc@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <4071557a0710092248r1375642as2cef0371b6b93edc@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} Um weird attachmehts okay, I guess when I said "alien messages" I meant alien attachments. Sorry for the dumn email. oopsie.. I'm trying to finish some homework and really am trying to find any excuse to finish it. sorry. :) kerri "trying to get all my grad classes done this school year" smith On 10/10/07, Kerri Smith <faciem@gmail.com> wrote: > I don't know if anyone else is getting these. but I seem to be getting > solme strange attachments with emails with the list lately.... of > course I don't open them on my pc, but on my mac they are invalid. > anyone else get these alien messages? > > On 10/9/07, Todd <vr@vrillusions.com> wrote: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iARDJt2KCXk > > > > Hasn't posted anything for a while but figured a lot of people seemed to > > like it last time it was mentioned. He's the guy that's made a few > > songs and records him "making" it "live". A lot of detroit techno type > > stuff and this one is no different > > > > > > -- > > Todd > > http://www.vrillusions.com/ > > My PGP Key ID: 0xBC90230C > > > > > > > -- > Kerri Smith > > -- > you fucked polka royalty? > did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? > > -- Kerri Smith -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90472-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 10 07:25:36 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90472-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 31456 invoked by uid 1162); 10 Oct 2007 07:25:36 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 31439 invoked from network); 10 Oct 2007 07:25:36 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=UIWFLSaIA8wJK3LuKA9FF5lW5SmtgbkibQI/+k/tRBE=; b=UyOgfSdMywVcnQ7kHcQrn5/RMiPvEGVU5XFomFJAvieoCcHYHBgWGTb961u+EXcBBNMkbIDouCPZvs9LXRWEXGaUqGeTmgcX1ZEvdql+2AwPAp5eVYChoMcr0TWcL5bpVMshtbMDEddXtNOAfrIgCD6JO4dexYuyzNjKtEzz7EY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=IZmT7548YoIhLEO83/kmhqq3+LxGTZ8RFC1M80DCGvBlOEQ6Lf9ZCWv22AiXgOwyjv09PxRlGVj/7acA5AYvyLQV+6JAxcroGqSuIiMclHJtVcUMF7LhpHC20GdypXF5AIKuNwezt7P5QQDzs6mzcWYOZFhteA2XX1eBsB5dUxU= Message-ID: <4071557a0710100025i327fe9e9g404f8ab389fcc38a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 03:25:35 -0400 From: "Kerri Smith" <faciem@gmail.com> To: Todd <vr@vrillusions.com> Cc: pb-cle-raves <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} NRR Um weird attachmehts OMG I can't type for shite....... i meant ...trying to find any reason to NOT finish it [my homework]. Put me in the retarded rave poster category if you don't know me. All others, just bear with me. You know sometimes you go crazy while you're trying to earn you phd. Sorry ;} so any of you who have gone through this craziness, please send me some words of advice or encouragement. I really need it now. I'm almost at the end of my class-taking, presenter, teacher, researcher, mentor rope. kerri On 10/10/07, Kerri Smith <faciem@gmail.com> wrote: > okay, I guess when I said "alien messages" I meant alien attachments. > > Sorry for the dumn email. oopsie.. > > I'm trying to finish some homework and really am trying to find any > excuse to finish it. sorry. > > > :) > > > kerri "trying to get all my grad classes done this school year" smith > > On 10/10/07, Kerri Smith <faciem@gmail.com> wrote: > > I don't know if anyone else is getting these. but I seem to be getting > > solme strange attachments with emails with the list lately.... of > > course I don't open them on my pc, but on my mac they are invalid. > > anyone else get these alien messages? > > > > On 10/9/07, Todd <vr@vrillusions.com> wrote: > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iARDJt2KCXk > > > > > > Hasn't posted anything for a while but figured a lot of people seemed to > > > like it last time it was mentioned. He's the guy that's made a few > > > songs and records him "making" it "live". A lot of detroit techno type > > > stuff and this one is no different > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Todd > > > http://www.vrillusions.com/ > > > My PGP Key ID: 0xBC90230C > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Kerri Smith > > > > -- > > you fucked polka royalty? > > did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? > > > > > > > -- > Kerri Smith > -- Kerri Smith -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90473-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 10 15:30:48 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90473-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 89132 invoked by uid 1162); 10 Oct 2007 15:30:47 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 89112 invoked from network); 10 Oct 2007 15:30:46 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=NlurswtYMt9jXnB5Ka1AdE/sA++rl0JDghF2ezUwa6SPtFxz+t8bhH97vaZ99t4wmTAT5NATtf7CMtbbg6r4ygRvIgCqWvnjCZSpNtR1moIQqxCwNQR+MYKrF9IOjpMYljS3P3qUHqkkzh/FgV1QcBnMRoAU9kaxOic8l4HapEI=; X-YMail-OSG: KIjSPh4VM1lUgDeKyheNwtRUPoDft65W3WYcRJdB9moD3qXGyR2IoSn7kc_XABnYPPVrLq7foB5Eh5.N1p4U50A0hur4hM7avi209hl_bzZeaLKZsdXbgNicdNl3 Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 08:30:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Amanda von Schtupp <a_yesko@yahoo.com> To: "pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org" <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-669562064-1192030246=:46328" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <60039.46328.qm@web54006.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: {pb-cle} NRR: Police blotter --0-669562064-1192030246=:46328 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit To the individual who called my place of employment two times four weeks ago and frightened my head cashier by being rude and asking if I were "still in jail?" -----> My boss filed a police report and it made the local police blotter. Ah. My warehouse manager just came to let me know. Amanda --------------------------------- Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. --0-669562064-1192030246=:46328 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit To the individual who called my place of employment two times four weeks ago and frightened my head cashier by being rude and asking if I were "still in jail?" -----> My boss filed a police report and it made the local police blotter.<br><br>Ah. My warehouse manager just came to let me know.<br><br>Amanda<br><br><p> <hr size=1>Building a website is a piece of cake. <br>Yahoo! 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Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5728 invoked from network); 10 Oct 2007 15:57:24 -0000 From: XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com Message-ID: <bd6.1af9f92c.343e4fc5@aol.com> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 11:54:45 EDT To: faciem@gmail.com, vr@vrillusions.com CC: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1192031685" X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 102 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} NRR Um weird attachmehts -------------------------------1192031685 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/10/2007 3:25:53 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, faciem@gmail.com writes: so any of you who have gone through this craziness, please send me some words of advice or encouragement. I really need it now. I'm almost at the end of my class-taking, presenter, teacher, researcher, mentor rope. I'm Eric its all good...I just woke up...I haven't been through that crazziness...But I'm off to my 3 hour group therapy my PO forces me to attend. I think I'm the only one in the class to have made it pass the 5th grade, therapist included. Seriously I am the only one with the mental capacity to operate a motor vehicle...they all have bus passes and will be hounding me for a ride home today.... One of these days I think I am going to tell someone "I think I'm in the wrong class, I'm mentally ill not mentally retarded." At least you are bettering yourself. I don't think the certificate I'm going to get after 30 weeks is going to get me a 6 figure income. It could always be worse. I've come to the conclusion that if you have low intelligence and attend college you end up with a degree in sociology or criminal justice. I'm not sayin all people with these degrees are brain-dead as I'm sure there are many people that honestly want to help others that choose these career paths. It just seems to me that if you struggled with algerbra and are afraid of labor being a retard mentor or thug might be your cup of tea. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -------------------------------1192031685 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3DUS-ASCII"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16546" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY id=3Drole_body style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY:=20= Arial"=20 bottomMargin=3D7 leftMargin=3D7 topMargin=3D7 rightMargin=3D7><FONT id=3Drol= e_document=20 face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D2> <DIV> <DIV>In a message dated 10/10/2007 3:25:53 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,=20 faciem@gmail.com writes:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"><= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>so any=20 of you who have gone through this craziness, please send me<BR>some words=20= of=20 advice or encouragement. I really need it now. I'm<BR>almost at the end of= my=20 class-taking, presenter, teacher, researcher,<BR>mentor=20 rope.<BR></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV> <DIV>I'm Eric its all good...I just woke up...I haven't been through that=20 crazziness...But I'm off to my 3 hour group therapy my PO forces me to atten= d. I=20 think I'm the only one in the class to have made it pass the 5th grade,=20 therapist included. Seriously I am the only one with the mental capacity to=20 operate a motor vehicle...they all have bus passes and will be hounding me f= or a=20 ride home today.... 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It just seems t= o me=20 that if you struggled with algerbra and are afraid of labor being a retard=20 mentor or thug might be your cup of tea.</DIV></DIV></FONT><BR><BR><BR><DIV>= <FONT style=3D"color: black; font: normal 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF;"><HR style= =3D"MARGIN-TOP: 10px">See what's new at <A title=3D"http://www.aol.com?NCID= =3DAOLCMP00300000001170" href=3D"http://www.aol.com?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001= 170" target=3D"_blank">AOL.com</A> and <A title=3D"http://www.aol.com/mkspla= sh.adp?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001169" href=3D"http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?= NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001169" target=3D"_blank">Make AOL Your Homepage</A>.</= FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> -------------------------------1192031685-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90475-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 10 17:41:47 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90475-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 79580 invoked by uid 1162); 10 Oct 2007 17:41:46 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 79555 invoked from network); 10 Oct 2007 17:41:45 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=w4dH/pcz9MmMSVeAu4KQFIaiik3AP55GdVwA5s+OKU0=; b=MrZgTIqqERkKwtl3Tcqg0FX4Qs6aR1fK1vayjUnGbb7LNqgNwnG54LdLwoaqD+xzZAcuSWpucYOqfkpTDiwnHrj4nJAVkMVncrv3z8SeMI2L2hy1hpMegLB09ift1gZDaTpRmJp4k5TAAoF/QiIKVLvoVUJZpj7aB7a2ykLAjqc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=hHp9fzV22Ns2mNSxx0l0JHZM6hII3o3LcqO/OzG/nW41U48fnk2Fy/jsUFB3iXAvbNoFfAd6dc+P2Gy44wCoNO589BbyUsO/vPgwDSUPEqcrdXv4fbjyEnZgTvd7g1S/2504nkEodYUwmq2TcwPNIZnZ/k96+QH9U8hBkl74AMY= Message-ID: <e23444c80710101041t259dff03sa87b95242937acd1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:41:41 -0400 From: "Ed Rodgers" <ed.rodgers@gmail.com> To: "pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org" <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> In-Reply-To: <e23444c80710100933u70d233ecrd180670a44fd11ed@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_20587_32076148.1192038102014" References: <bd6.1af9f92c.343e4fc5@aol.com> <e23444c80710100933u70d233ecrd180670a44fd11ed@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} NRR Um weird attachmehts ------=_Part_20587_32076148.1192038102014 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline If you're looking for a job, those viagra spam emailers would hire you based on this submission. On 10/10/07, XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com <XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com> wrote: > > In a message dated 10/10/2007 3:25:53 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > faciem@gmail.com writes: > > so any of you who have gone through this craziness, please send me > some words of advice or encouragement. I really need it now. I'm > almost at the end of my class-taking, presenter, teacher, researcher, > mentor rope. > > > > > I'm Eric its all good...I just woke up...I haven't been through that > crazziness...But I'm off to my 3 hour group therapy my PO forces me to > attend. I > think I'm the only one in the class to have made it pass the 5th grade, > therapist included. Seriously I am the only one with the mental capacity to > operate a > motor vehicle...they all have bus passes and will be hounding me for a ride > home today.... One of these days I think I am going to tell someone "I > think > I'm in the wrong class, I'm mentally ill not mentally retarded." At least > you > are bettering yourself. I don't think the certificate I'm going to get > after > 30 weeks is going to get me a 6 figure income. It could always be worse. > I've come to the conclusion that if you have low intelligence and attend > college > you end up with a degree in sociology or criminal justice. I'm not sayin all > > people with these degrees are brain-dead as I'm sure there are many people > that honestly want to help others that choose these career paths. It just > seems > to me that if you struggled with algerbra and are afraid of labor being a > retard mentor or thug might be your cup of tea. > > > > > ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com > ------=_Part_20587_32076148.1192038102014 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline <span class="gmail_quote"><br><br></span>If you're looking for a job, those viagra spam emailers would hire you<br>based on this submission.<br><br><br><br><br>On 10/10/07, <a href="mailto:XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com">XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com </a> <<a href="mailto:XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com">XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com</a>> wrote:<br>><br>> In a message dated 10/10/2007 3:25:53 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,<br>> <a href="mailto:faciem@gmail.com">faciem@gmail.com </a> writes:<br>><br>> so any  of you who have gone through this craziness, please send me<br>> some words of  advice or encouragement. I really need it now. I'm<br>> almost at the end of my  class-taking, presenter, teacher, researcher, <br>> mentor  rope.<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> I'm Eric its all good...I just woke up...I haven't been through that<br>> crazziness...But I'm off to my 3 hour group therapy my PO forces me to <br>> attend. I<br>> think I'm the only one in the class to have made it pass the 5th grade,<br>> therapist included. Seriously I am the only one with the mental capacity to<br>> operate a<br>> motor vehicle...they all have bus passes and will be hounding me for a  ride <br>> home today.... One of these days I think I am going to tell someone "I<br>> think<br>> I'm in the wrong class, I'm mentally ill not mentally retarded." At  least<br>> you<br>> are bettering yourself. I don't think the certificate I'm going to get <br>> after<br>> 30 weeks is going to get me a 6 figure income. It could always be worse.<br>> I've come to the conclusion that if you have low intelligence and attend<br>> college<br>> you end up with a degree in sociology or criminal justice. I'm not sayin all <br>><br>> people with these degrees are brain-dead as I'm sure there are many people<br>> that  honestly want to help others that choose these career paths. It just<br>> seems<br>> to me  that if you struggled with algerbra and are afraid of labor being a <br>> retard  mentor or thug might be your cup of tea.<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> ************************************** See what's new at <a href="http://www.aol.com">http://www.aol.com</a><br>><br> ------=_Part_20587_32076148.1192038102014-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90476-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 10 17:59:25 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90476-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 96216 invoked by uid 1162); 10 Oct 2007 17:59:24 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 96190 invoked from network); 10 Oct 2007 17:59:24 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=w5JHm4z12iUs2xRTpO0/p+J9F+obrjzh96Hf3g10hoU=; b=brsrxMCVfuQdATn1cm2Svmli0uCT8ipeglJ2O7Bs8pe+ukH53sYv3s6mMfdXBQ6Fav22m9csjkTBSjN4a1TRN7AUHSGE0DzkMDNtieq/8Rt7hV2IoeNi5fwnheyN/S1WinTajpMix7DUVu7Lw/e1FyWSJU+y3tHqvOKyKXa2okI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=HqJ5r/Zo5JB2KBCFI0kyWGtJjDnIpx8a9mskwpr3n49+75Smipldp+DeX3UB8bzRrE79OJlJfizVjKEIpkOAwGdM7Wxr4bwtJH69BHLkFMI8EzsrAm6mPjMumkjUdhtHOMS7oqzPnwaREmc8XUlB4cDjK+4VezpJySicPCNnaR0= Message-ID: <470D12F7.5060308@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:59:19 -0400 From: trout <troutsoup@gmail.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: peebeecle <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> References: <4071557a0710092248r1375642as2cef0371b6b93edc@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4071557a0710092248r1375642as2cef0371b6b93edc@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} Um weird attachmehts todd uses a digital signature, its probably one of those files. Kerri Smith wrote: > I don't know if anyone else is getting these. but I seem to be getting > solme strange attachments with emails with the list lately.... of > course I don't open them on my pc, but on my mac they are invalid. > anyone else get these alien messages? > > On 10/9/07, Todd <vr@vrillusions.com> wrote: > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iARDJt2KCXk >> >> Hasn't posted anything for a while but figured a lot of people seemed to >> like it last time it was mentioned. He's the guy that's made a few >> songs and records him "making" it "live". A lot of detroit techno type >> stuff and this one is no different >> >> >> -- >> Todd >> http://www.vrillusions.com/ >> My PGP Key ID: 0xBC90230C >> >> >> > > > -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90477-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 10 20:32:17 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90477-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 99277 invoked by uid 1162); 10 Oct 2007 20:32:16 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 99257 invoked from network); 10 Oct 2007 20:32:15 -0000 From: XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com Message-ID: <cb8.1d9c6440.343e90c3@aol.com> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 16:32:03 EDT To: ed.rodgers@gmail.com, pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1192048323" X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 102 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} NRR Um weird attachmehts -------------------------------1192048323 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/10/2007 1:42:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ed.rodgers@gmail.com writes: If you're looking for a job, those viagra spam emailers would hire you based on this submission. Lol I don't need a job..I take back my retard mentor comment...I actually did benefit from this Social Responsibility class. I'm ashamed to say my idea of my peers was that they were "welfare lowlifes too lazy to work." Well I somehow managed to end up in the same boat as them. These people seriously are incapable of holding even a minimum wage job. Its not their fault...they can't help they were born that way. I'm just sick of this one counselor talking down on me and treating me like I'm 5 years old. We had a speaker and she had some questions for the speaker. She wanted to know about credit cards and bill collectors being able to put a lien on your property. The person teaching me social responsibility can't even fulfill the financial obligations she created for herself and pay her bills? ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -------------------------------1192048323 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3DUS-ASCII"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16546" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY id=3Drole_body style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY:=20= Arial"=20 bottomMargin=3D7 leftMargin=3D7 topMargin=3D7 rightMargin=3D7><FONT id=3Drol= e_document=20 face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D2> <DIV> <DIV>In a message dated 10/10/2007 1:42:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,=20 ed.rodgers@gmail.com writes:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"><= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>If=20 you're looking for a job, those viagra spam emailers would hire you<BR>bas= ed=20 on this submission.<BR></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV>Lol I don't need a job..I take back my retard mentor comment...I actual= ly=20 did benefit from this Social Responsibility class. I'm ashamed to say my ide= a of=20 my peers was that they were "welfare lowlifes too lazy to work." Well I some= how=20 managed to end up in the same boat as them. These people seriously are incap= able=20 of holding even a minimum wage job. Its not their fault...they can't help th= ey=20 were born that way. I'm just sick of this one counselor talking down on me a= nd=20 treating me like I'm 5 years old. We had a speaker and she had some question= s=20 for the speaker. She wanted to know about credit cards and bill collectors b= eing=20 able to put a lien on your property. The person teaching me social=20 responsibility can't even fulfill the financial obligations she created for=20 herself and pay her bills?</DIV></FONT><BR><BR><BR><DIV><FONT style=3D"color= : black; font: normal 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF;"><HR style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 10px"= >See what's new at <A title=3D"http://www.aol.com?NCID=3DAOLCMP0030000000117= 0" href=3D"http://www.aol.com?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001170" target=3D"_blank"= >AOL.com</A> and <A title=3D"http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=3DAOLCMP00= 300000001169" href=3D"http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=3DAOLCMP003000000= 01169" target=3D"_blank">Make AOL Your Homepage</A>.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HT= ML> -------------------------------1192048323-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90478-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 10 21:15:40 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90478-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 39785 invoked by uid 1162); 10 Oct 2007 21:15:40 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 39764 invoked from network); 10 Oct 2007 21:15:39 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=9GLVi10EtUZGqFegYWgzRI8mTUYAnvjLXKtVZ9ISV/k=; b=IzLQguESM8EiGm4Oqr9yUwTzx3km4lB9DAAi37PoGu7wSywqI7bwJm3/3FWEVA5H5CGgD8z7nE78FmhrPDVhfZug41BEgt9uLZ3JEA+JWyg8+NWDG89M0K0DTEcm9Hl3GplXw4nC5+k9k3zaJq628Fj9MadX5MpkbAn+uyjgIvU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=NnIyDxr8gbid3VuNE3Ijv8CN0RGRppzPxfT4WLJUOCmiUr7xHqnTqCzIelcxTBgh59s7Y9QWlMeFx0o+271XFfLQkcGusvZu77inwrHPTtCauRpKpv4V/VJWlasqC7+DZ3WjmSXej5G+A35qmI+LthLKjuWcRYkazRGdpJKQWD0= Message-ID: <e23444c80710101415n7f2ffb49v7af1af1eb7854021@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 17:15:39 -0400 From: "Ed Rodgers" <ed.rodgers@gmail.com> To: "XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com" <XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com> Cc: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <cb8.1d9c6440.343e90c3@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_20974_3934745.1192050939031" References: <cb8.1d9c6440.343e90c3@aol.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} NRR Um weird attachmehts ------=_Part_20974_3934745.1192050939031 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline she sounds like she should be in middle management. she'd fit right in. On 10/10/07, XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com <XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com> wrote: > > In a message dated 10/10/2007 1:42:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > ed.rodgers@gmail.com writes: > > If you're looking for a job, those viagra spam emailers would hire you > based on this submission. > > Lol I don't need a job..I take back my retard mentor comment...I actually > did benefit from this Social Responsibility class. I'm ashamed to say my > idea of my peers was that they were "welfare lowlifes too lazy to work." > Well I somehow managed to end up in the same boat as them. These people > seriously are incapable of holding even a minimum wage job. Its not their > fault...they can't help they were born that way. I'm just sick of this one > counselor talking down on me and treating me like I'm 5 years old. We had a > speaker and she had some questions for the speaker. She wanted to know about > credit cards and bill collectors being able to put a lien on your property. > The person teaching me social responsibility can't even fulfill the > financial obligations she created for herself and pay her bills? > > > > ------------------------------ > See what's new at AOL.com <http://www.aol.com/?NCID=AOLCMP00300000001170>and Make > AOL Your Homepage<http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=AOLCMP00300000001169> > . > ------=_Part_20974_3934745.1192050939031 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline she sounds like she should be in middle management.  she'd fit right in.<br><br> <div><span class="gmail_quote">On 10/10/07, <b class="gmail_sendername"><a href="mailto:XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com">XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com</a></b> <<a href="mailto:XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com">XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com</a> > wrote:</span> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid"> <div style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><font face="Arial" color="#000000" size="2"><span class="q"> <div> <div>In a message dated 10/10/2007 1:42:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:ed.rodgers@gmail.com" target="_blank">ed.rodgers@gmail.com</a> writes:</div> <blockquote style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face="Arial" color="#000000" size="2">If you're looking for a job, those viagra spam emailers would hire you <br>based on this submission.<br></font></blockquote></div> <div></div></span> <div>Lol I don't need a job..I take back my retard mentor comment...I actually did benefit from this Social Responsibility class. I'm ashamed to say my idea of my peers was that they were "welfare lowlifes too lazy to work." Well I somehow managed to end up in the same boat as them. These people seriously are incapable of holding even a minimum wage job. Its not their fault...they can't help they were born that way. I'm just sick of this one counselor talking down on me and treating me like I'm 5 years old. We had a speaker and she had some questions for the speaker. She wanted to know about credit cards and bill collectors being able to put a lien on your property. The person teaching me social responsibility can't even fulfill the financial obligations she created for herself and pay her bills? </div></font><span class="q"><br><br><br> <div><font style="FONT: 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF; COLOR: black"> <hr style="MARGIN-TOP: 10px"> See what's new at <a title="http://www.aol.com?NCID=AOLCMP00300000001170" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://www.aol.com/?NCID=AOLCMP00300000001170" target="_blank">AOL.com</a> and <a title="http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=AOLCMP00300000001169" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=AOLCMP00300000001169" target="_blank"> Make AOL Your Homepage</a>.</font></div></span></div></blockquote></div><br> ------=_Part_20974_3934745.1192050939031-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90479-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 10 21:29:42 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90479-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 48747 invoked by uid 1162); 10 Oct 2007 21:29:42 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 48729 invoked from network); 10 Oct 2007 21:29:42 -0000 From: XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com Message-ID: <d11.15fe80d9.343e9e30@aol.com> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 17:29:20 EDT To: ed.rodgers@gmail.com CC: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1192051760" X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 102 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} NRR Um weird attachmehts -------------------------------1192051760 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/10/2007 5:16:08 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ed.rodgers@gmail.com writes: she sounds like she should be in middle management. she'd fit right in. Its easier to deal with idiots when you get paid. Being forced to take something you don't need or go to jail is what pisses me off. If anyone needs a social responsibility course its the people who job is to uphold justice. The ones responsible for the destruction of the bill of rights and turning the criminal "Just-Us" system into what it was designed not to become. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -------------------------------1192051760 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3DUS-ASCII"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16546" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY id=3Drole_body style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY:=20= Arial"=20 bottomMargin=3D7 leftMargin=3D7 topMargin=3D7 rightMargin=3D7><FONT id=3Drol= e_document=20 face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D2> <DIV> <DIV>In a message dated 10/10/2007 5:16:08 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,=20 ed.rodgers@gmail.com writes:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"><= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>she=20 sounds like she should be in middle management.  she'd fit right=20 in.<BR></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV>Its easier to deal with idiots when you get paid. Being forced to take=20 something you don't need or go to  jail is what pisses me off. If anyon= e=20 needs a social responsibility course its the people who job is to uphold=20 justice. The ones responsible for the destruction of the bill of rights= and=20 turning the criminal "Just-Us" system into what it was designed not to=20 become.</DIV></FONT><BR><BR><BR><DIV><FONT style=3D"color: black; font: norm= al 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF;"><HR style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 10px">See what's new at=20= <A title=3D"http://www.aol.com?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001170" href=3D"http://w= ww.aol.com?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001170" target=3D"_blank">AOL.com</A> and <A= title=3D"http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001169" href= =3D"http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001169" target=3D"_= blank">Make AOL Your Homepage</A>.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> -------------------------------1192051760-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90480-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 10 22:42:35 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90480-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 87192 invoked by uid 1162); 10 Oct 2007 22:42:34 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 87145 invoked from network); 10 Oct 2007 22:42:33 -0000 From: XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com Message-ID: <d65.14063f9d.343eaf52@aol.com> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 18:42:26 EDT To: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1192056146" X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 102 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} NRR Um weird attachmehts -------------------------------1192056146 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm actually quite sick with myself for making derogatory marks about the members of my group. We've all been to jail....out of all 10 people I would say only 1 is really a "bad" person. In all honesty I'm probally the biggest asshole of the whole bunch. They never had anything or even had a chance and some of them have good hearts. Like this one kid has dreams of going to the art institute and becoming a video game designer. The sad truth is their is no way it will ever happen. He doesn't even understand how drive a vehicle or traffic laws. These are the people that are in and out of the jail system their whole lifes. Its not his fault he was born dirt poor and not that smart. Whats worse is I had a chance and didn't take it. Some of the social worker's are good people while other just got a job from the phoney system. They really have no future and jail is actually better than some of their home lifes. Fuck You to the cops and everyone else that makes a living off of other peoples suffering. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -------------------------------1192056146 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3DUS-ASCII"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16546" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY id=3Drole_body style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY:=20= Arial"=20 bottomMargin=3D7 leftMargin=3D7 topMargin=3D7 rightMargin=3D7><FONT id=3Drol= e_document=20 face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D2> <DIV>I'm actually quite sick with myself for making derogatory marks about t= he=20 members of my group. We've all been to jail....out of all 10 people I would=20= say=20 only 1 is really a "bad" person. In all honesty I'm probally the biggest ass= hole=20 of the whole bunch. They never had anything or even had a chance and some of= =20 them have good hearts. Like this one kid has dreams of going to the art=20 institute and becoming a video game designer.</DIV> <DIV>The sad truth is their is no way it will ever happen. He doesn't even=20 understand how drive a vehicle or traffic laws. These are the people that ar= e in=20 and out of the jail system their whole lifes. Its not his fault he was born=20= dirt=20 poor and not that smart. Whats worse is I had a chance and didn't take it. S= ome=20 of the social worker's are good people while other just got a job from the=20 phoney system. They really have no future and jail is actually better than s= ome=20 of their home lifes. 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Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 68362 invoked from network); 11 Oct 2007 09:45:39 -0000 From: "Curt" <cbechdel@adelphia.net> To: <XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com>, <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 05:45:32 -0400 Message-ID: <00a201c80beb$7760ecc0$0c00a8c0@VALUEDC0EE74F5> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00A3_01C80BC9.F04F4CC0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 thread-index: AcgJR0Z9NG/FGLmjRkScxd+y/UwrzACpCSAg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 In-Reply-To: <d06.1cbde4f0.343adc3c@aol.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: RE: {pb-cle} anyone listen to XM radio? ------=_NextPart_000_00A3_01C80BC9.F04F4CC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It's all about BPM _____ From: XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com [mailto:XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 9:05 PM To: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Subject: {pb-cle} anyone listen to XM radio? 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Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12000 invoked by uid 1162); 11 Oct 2007 11:13:01 -0000 Date: 11 Oct 2007 11:13:01 -0000 Message-ID: <20071011111301.11994.qmail@hyperreal.org> From: trout@hyperreal.org To: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Subject: {pb-cle} R.O.M.10.11.07 -=<O>=---------------------------------------------------------------=<O>=- The Pittsburgh-Cleveland-Toronto Rave-0-Matic mkIV Maintained by Trout Soup Under the same management since 1996 -=<O>=---------------------------------------------------------------=<O>=- Originating from crAkron, a place neither Pittsburgh or Cleveland! I consider the PB-CLE area as far west as Columbus and Dayton and as far east as State College. Maybe more, maybe less! I'm now including some Buffalo, Detroit, and DC events in the ROM, as well as some somewhat related concert events. I'm also now listing toronto since pittsburgh and cleveland seem to have a total lack of events. i have removed the weeklies from the mailer, but they are still listed on the web site. * This list is not for redistribution or publication without permission * The region i list is approximately 4 hours driving time from Akron, Ohio. I do list events farther than this if they are special in some way and might be of interest to people in the pbcle region. I take no responsibility for the accuracy of the information here as i'm mostly relaying it from email or typing it in from a flyer (typos *DO* happen), but will gladly fix any errors or omissions, just let me know! The web page is updated throughout the week, you can check that for the latest information. http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/rom/ set your bookmarks appropriately :) Submissions, flames, threats, hot graver pictures, and your credit card numbers to: trout@hyperreal.org -=<O>=---------------------------------------------------------------=<O>=- Thu Oct 11 COLETTE Cleveland Thu Oct 11 WIZARD Pittsburgh Fri Oct 12 JOHN ACQUAVIVA Detroit Fri Oct 12 DONT BE SCURRED Pittsburgh Sat Oct 13 BALANCE Detroit Sat Oct 13 DARA Akron Sat Oct 13 HEAVYWEIGHT SOUNDS Pittsburgh Sat Oct 13 THAT EPIC PARTY Pittsburgh Wed Oct 17 FUZZ Pittsburgh Fri Oct 19 LEGENDZ REVENGE Columbus Sat Oct 20 BASE MAGAZINE RELEASE PARTY Cleveland Sat Oct 20 CHRISTOPHER LAWRENCE Columbus? Sat Oct 20 HOME BASS 2 Pittsburgh Sat Oct 20 MONSTER MASH BOAT CRUISE SW Ohio Sat Oct 20 RICH KORACH Cleveland Sat Oct 20 SHAZZZAM 2 Detroit Sat Oct 20 THE GROOVE RETURNS SW Ohio Fri Oct 26 KASKADE Cleveland Fri Oct 26 MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE PREPARTY Cleveland Fri Oct 26 SCREAM North Central WV Fri Oct 26 TRICK R TWEAK Lorain Sat Oct 27 CHINATOWN INN HALLOWEEN PARTY Pittsburgh Sat Oct 27 FREAKOUT 2007 Toronto Sat Oct 27 IRENE Columbus? Sat Oct 27 MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE 2 Akron Sat Oct 27 TRIPLE THREAT Detroit Sun Oct 28 DARUDE Dayton Fri Nov 02 JUNGLE JUICE 8 YR ANNIV Detroit Sat Nov 03 TRANCEFORMERS Akron Sat Nov 08 RAVE RELIGION AND THUMPER Cincinnati Sat Nov 10 21 GUN SALUTE Toronto Sat Nov 10 KONSPIRACY Detroit Sat Nov 10 PARTY MONSTER pgh? Fri Nov 16 DB Pittsburgh Fri Nov 16 SUBSTANCE Cleveland Sat Nov 17 BOUNCE 3 Pittsburgh Fri Nov 30 HARD BEATZ WITH A VENGEANCE Pittsburgh ??? Nov ?? SOME AKRON THING crAkron Mon Dec 31 MAGIC CARPET Detroit Sat Feb 16 TOUGH LOVE Cleveland Jul 18-19, 2008 HULLA REUNION 2008 Toronto varied TROUTS PICKS varied -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Thu Oct 11 COLETTE Cleveland <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-11-colette.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Thu Oct 11 WIZARD Pittsburgh <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-11-wizard.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Fri Oct 12 JOHN ACQUAVIVA Detroit The first installment of .Therapy. will feature John Acquaviva, former label mate of Rich Hawtin and basically a legend in the Funky House/Techno community. John has been DJing and producing for over 30 years. He regularly plays events in Italy, Spain, Switzerland and Japan while continuing to release a perpetual stream of mix CD.s that dominate play lists all over the world. w/ opening set by Shawn Michaels iLounge - 15 South Saginaw doors @ 9 - 18+ to enter drink specials until 10 tickets available @ wantickets.com & Record Time in Ferndale <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-12-acquaviva.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Fri Oct 12 DONT BE SCURRED Pittsburgh Don.t be Scurred! Friday October 12th, Pittsburgh PA The hosting MC for the evening will be none other then b.a.d. ass. own. Mc Infinity (New Ascension, Konkrete Ohio) Akron With music from. Rezon-8 (Tech-nu-funk, Focused Motives) Pittsburgh DVS (koala-tea.com, phoenix mgmt) Pittsburgh Evasion (koala-tea.com) Cleveland Dj Dubbs (Collective Consciousness, Boys of Boston) Buffalo Jake the snake w/ blunt mc (412dnb, fuzz, strength dnb) Pittsburgh Paul B (koala-tea.com) Cleveland Dez Drastic (New Ascension) Akron Eryn Evans (phoenix mgmt, sinister movement) Pittsburgh PA Arthur B (Fever productions) Youngstown COSTUME CONTEST! .and we don.t wanna see any of that fancy shmancy rented stuff either. Everyone put their thinking cap on! Lets see who can come up with the BEST homemade costume. Cash prizes to the winner & runner up, the rest. tough titty. Make-up is cool, NO store bought OR rented costumes will be allowed to enter the contest. Event located at: THE SPIRITS GALLERY 887 Progress St. Pittsburgh PA, 15212 (Pittsburgh.s North Side) Doors Open 9pm - ??? Admission: $10 This is an all ages event. NO Drugs, Weapons, Bad Attitudes or BULLSHIT R.O.A.R. in full effect. (Right of Admission Refusal) Event brought to you by: Broke Ass Dj Association (B.A.D. Ass.) Web Support: www.brokeassdjs.com www.koala-tea.com www.lolli.org www.myspace.com/brokeassdjassociation The Line: 412.542.1717 Happy belated birthday Rebecca! <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-12-dont_be_scurred.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Oct 13 BALANCE Detroit Trinity Productions presents: Balance Saturday, October 13th 2007 featuring: (Upstairs) Dj Surgeon Crtatesavers Muzic Ghetto Tech Dj Seoul Detroit Techno Militia/ Bang Tech 12/ Breakloose Electro special 2 hour set Dj Psycho Detroit Techno Militia Techno Xeroxxx D-tour Live Ghetto Tech The Thrill Seekers (Blair Emmerson + William Paul) Drum and Bass/ Breaks (Downstairs) Norm Talley Beat Down Sounds/ Third Ear Recordings House Reggie "Hotmix" Harrell WJLB Club Insomnia Resident/ Co-Host House Dwayne Jensen Fathoa/ KMS/ Soiree/ Third Ear Recordings House Bassick Disfresh House/ Speed Garage Sutter Disfresh Deep/ Funky House Dj SQaRD House located at: The FiNite 1370 Plum Detroit, Mi. 1 block East of Old Tiger Stadium $5 before 12 - $10 after free giveaways from 237am.com myspace.com/trinity of detroit <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-13-balance.front.jpg"> <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-13-balance.back.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Oct 13 DARA Akron <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-13-dara.front.jpg"> <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-13-dara.back.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Oct 13 HEAVYWEIGHT SOUNDS Pittsburgh <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-13-heavyweight_sounds.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Oct 13 THAT EPIC PARTY Pittsburgh That Epic Party in Pittsbugh Freak out kids... This is our lineup... Knifehandchop Belladonnakillz The Niceguys Sunrize Vapour Rukkus with MC E.N.D. Psyklone Robotpilot Darren Grant Dynamic Uno George WSR Tika RyuRy Konztant Red Ranger Otagi anyone with a canadian citizenship gets in for free This is going to be the party of the year... be there <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-13-that_epic_party.jpg"> <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-13-that_epic_party.pre.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Wed Oct 17 FUZZ Pittsburgh Big things continue in the 412 as FUZZ brings you some of the up and coming producers and deejays from here in the states: Dnb duo STYLE CONTROL (aka Will Miles and Kjell Anderson) have been making quite a name for themselves in 2007, producing tracks together as well as separately. Will, just back from his European tour, has a single forthcoming on Fabio's imprint, CREATIVE SOURCE, followed by Kjell's release on the same label. Kjell's POISONOUS E.P. on TRACKDONALDS remains in the top 10 on juno records digital download. myspace.com/theswonz myspace.com/milesahead With local support from: Preslav and Ratana- This duo has been busy at work in the studio as well. They are putting out some very nice tracks surely to be picked up by some labels soon. visit the studio at: InTheMachineAge.com Jungle Jake aka JTS- $5 Cover 21+ 10-12 $1 bottles 4412 Liberty Avenue Pittsburgh, PA 15224 -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Fri Oct 19 LEGENDZ REVENGE Columbus <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-19-legendz_revenge.front.jpg"> <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-19-legendz_revenge.back.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Oct 20 BASE MAGAZINE RELEASE PARTY Cleveland [not to be confused with bassline magazine] <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-20-base_magazine_release.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Oct 20 CHRISTOPHER LAWRENCE Columbus? <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-20-christopher_lawrence.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Oct 20 HOME BASS 2 Pittsburgh Home Bass 2 ~ October 20, 2007 Milano's 111 Market Street Pittsburgh PA 15222 DJ's: Chico NatasK Chris Nature Abduction Aaron Clark Shadowstarr 21+ venue and $5.00 at the door. <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-20-home_bass_2.front.jpg"> <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-20-home_bass_2.back.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Oct 20 MONSTER MASH BOAT CRUISE SW Ohio In the Groove is proud to present "Monster Mash" a halloween costume, birthday celebrating, fundraising boat cruise!!!! We have a lot in store for you this year...We are going to have 4 rooms of sound giving us a capacity of almost 500 people!!! We have invited a couple of other local production companies to join in the fun with us...Lingo Roecodings and Straight Up Entertainment will be hosting their own rooms this year... ------------------------------------------ In the Groove rooms will have: ------------------------------------------ Betamax - Miami Beach - Electro House www.myspace.com/betamaxdj Ai Noyp - Kansas City - House & Progressive tech http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=26689442 Love Between Equals - Cincy - Live Electro House Tease - Cincy - Progressive trance Lady Bandit - Dayton - Breaks Nautigroove - Florence Y'all - Progressive Sounds --------------------------------- Lingo Recordings room: --------------------------------- Lettow & Ice - Cincy - House William Alexander - Cincy - House Nelson - Cincy - House --------------------------------------------- Straight Up Entertainment room: --------------------------------------------- Steve Dizzle - Hills of KY - Hard Electro/House Psych - Richmond KY - Electro DJ Penetration - Cincy - D&B Vinny Bricks - Cincy - Hard Techno/House Typekast - Cincy - Minimal beats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Remember the party goes on rain or shine...The boats are covered...Bring a hoodie in case it gets cold... $15.00 16 & up with ID... 2 fully stocked cash bars on board... 1 bar on the dock before hand We start boarding @ 10;00 and shove off around midnight or at capacity... contact nautigroove with any and all questions... -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Oct 20 RICH KORACH Cleveland Richie Hawtins' favorite tag teammate in Detroit and the head of the Paxahau residents assault team responsible for bringing you the Detroit Electronic Music Festival for the past two years this will be the FIRST appearance in N.E. Ohio for any Paxamember and we are proud to host him. He has played before tens of thousands of people across the globe from Ibiza to Buenos Aires but will be just as comfortable tearing down the ceiling in Touch for us on this amazing night. And of course you'll be getting the best Tek-Know has to offer with support from Downstairs: 11 - 12 - Randomseed [Tek-Know] 12 - 1 Truck Stop Tourist [Tek-Know] 1 - Close Rich Korach [Paxahau | Detroit] Upstairs 10-11:15 - Dan Moore [Tek-Know] 11:15 - 12:30 - Funk Detective [Tek-Know,Touch] 12:30 - Close - John K [Tek-Know,Touch] Library - Konkrete Ohio Jocelyn D [Bassline Magazine, DBE, Chronic Camp,www.jocelyndee.com | Toranto] Stevie P [Collaborations] Robtronix [Konkrete Ohio,Koala-tea] N:Coder [Konkrete Ohio,Vibe Prod ] <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-20-rich_korach.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Oct 20 SHAZZZAM 2 Detroit yo whats up its about that time,I'm throwing another party Sat oct 20th in Detroit.This is the internet promo,to give you an ideal,we are expecting 2-3 thousand people,It will be the best party of the year, I would like to invite you and your crew out personally,I hope you can make it and experience something incredible. Flyers and real detroit ads coming soon Info and directions 313-633-7070 <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-20-shazzzam_2.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Oct 20 THE GROOVE RETURNS SW Ohio <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-20-the_groove_returns.teaser.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Fri Oct 26 KASKADE Cleveland TRU & DISCO Present: "BRING THE NIGHT TOUR" FEATURING: KASKADE (kaskademusic.com | Ultra Records | San Fran.) Oprning Set Provided By: Evan Evolution (Tru | Disco | Spin Cycle) When: Friday Oct.26.2007 Where: Sinergy Nightclub Address: 1213 West 6th Street (Warehouse District) City: Cleveland State: Ohio Time: 9pm-2:30am Age: 18+ Dress Code: None, Be yourself! TICKET INFO: Pre-Sale Tickets on: www.wantickets.com or Grand Poo-Bas Record Shoppe 11823 Detroit Ave., Lakewood Ohio Limited - $10 | Advance - $15 | Door - $20 VIP tickets also available, check with ticket buying locations. VIP TABLE RESERVATION: E-mail: kasredtr@hotmail.com EVENT INFO: www.myspace.com/tazmo9 www.discoproductions.org www.kaskademusic.com www.wantickets.com <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-26-kaskade.front.jpg"> <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-26-kaskade.back.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Fri Oct 26 MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE PREPARTY Cleveland Pre party line up is: Abduction Trout soup Eric Bliss Van Norman more info to come on that..... myspace.com/future_noise -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Fri Oct 26 SCREAM North Central WV <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-26-scream.front.jpg"> <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-26-scream.back.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Fri Oct 26 TRICK R TWEAK Lorain Trick 'R Tweak presented by Deep Widdit Productions October 26th, 2007 Doors open @ 9pm 18 + (21 to Drink) ***Drum & Bass::All night*** ***Nice party enviroment with spooky Halloween decor*** ::Halloween Costume Contest:: The winner of this will be bringing a guest to go see DIESELBOY @ TheMetropolis on Friday, November 16th, courtesy of Koala Tea. Arriveearly if you plan on entering! Venue: The Red Parrot 538 Broadway Ave. Lorain, Ohio Line-Up: robtronix sheepdog renaldo danky dave chibbity Cover: $5 - 21+ $7 - under 21 Rules: No bad replicants, no weapons, no bad vibes & no drugs... hunt down a Deep Widdit krew member for pre-sales! http://www.myspace.com/deepwiddit <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-26-trick_r_tweak.front.jpg"> <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-26-trick_r_tweak.back.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Oct 27 CHINATOWN INN HALLOWEEN PARTY Pittsburgh Pittsburgh's most legendary Halloween party is back for it's 7th round of debauchery! This year sees the return of the PeopleNYC crew to provide an extra helping of dancefloor destruction. Please RSVP to this event RSVP Yes Maybe No Comment(s) : SPREAD THE WORD... Blog this Bulletin this Saturday, October 27th, 2007 @ Chinatown Inn Upstairs: Darren Michaels (PeopleNYC) & Matt Monroe (Humanaut) tag set Kenneth:L (PeopleNYC) & Adam Oliveri (Humanaut) tag set Clevr (Breakbeat Militia) Paul Alexander & Aaron Clark tag set (Humanaut) Quartz Marc D Downstairs: DJs GH & Underground (Pittsburgh Underground) Nolan - special hip-hop set (Focused Motives) Rezon8 (Focused Motives) As always, there will be the usual costume contest with cash prizes as well as hor'dourves on the lower level. Please think twice when creating your costume as security will confiscate all dangerous and weapon-like props. Chinatown Inn (Upper floors) 520 3rd Ave Downtown Pittsburgh, PA 15219 Doors open @ 9pm $15 Cover - 21+ w/ ID Info line: 412.248.BOOO http://www.humanaut.net Promotion by: S. Simpson, Humanaut <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-27-7th_chinatown_in_halloween.front.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Oct 27 FREAKOUT 2007 Toronto DESTINY666: FREAKOUT! Saturday, October 27th, 2007 Docks Entertainment Complex www.DESTINY666.com On Saturday, October 27th, Canada's longest running producer of head boppin' leg shakin' body bangn' smile on your face events is back once again to bring you your annual serving of Halloween madness! Destiny Productions will transform the newly sound-proofed and bass enhanced Docks Entertainment Complex into a haunted world filled with sights and sounds beyond your imagination. We will create the ultimate Halloween environment, complete with the most advanced installation of sound, lighting and visuals. Join us as scary techno, death dealing trance, evil jungle and gnarled breaks artists from around the world descend onto the shores of Lake Ontario for this spooktacular annual Halloween event. ON HALLOWEEN - THIS IS THE BIG ONE! Prepare to FREAKOUT harder than ever before! EVENT FEATURES: * - The worlds largest Alpha Dyna Cord sound system bringing you over 100 000 Watts of digital sound! * - The ultimate party environment with our most freaky Halloween decor to date * - The incredible Destiny Light, Video & Laser show you have come to expect! * - Destiny666 Best Costume Contest: Win CASH and guestlist to all Destiny events for a full year! * - Four separate rooms of pounding bass showcasing all styles of electronic music including Drum and Bass, Trance, Jungle, House, Breaks & Techno! * - Multiple, fully stocked VIP drinking areas for the 19+ * - Heated outdoor smoking and chill areas! * - The 'oldskool Destiny vibe' that can't be felt anywhere else! :THE JUNGLE DANCE CAVE: presented by Destiny & Projek ED RUSH & OPTICAL - UK GROOVERIDER - UK MC RYME TYME - UK Mystical Influence Marcus Visionary Capital J Everfresh vs Crash D-Syfa ::MCs:: Caddy Cad MC JD MC Trajady :TERRIFYING TRANCE, HAUNTED HOUSE & FREAKY TECHNO: Presented by Destiny & Terror Inc M.I.K.E. PUSH - UK FILO & PERRY - USA SAM PUNK - Germany THOMAS PENTON - USA THE BEAT FREAKERS - USA DOSE THE ALIEN - USA OS/2 Rex Manning (AKA Unabomber & Mike Conradi) NuEra Walter rosati :PUREPHUNK BREAKS THE BONES ROOM: Hosted by Purephunk Recordings & The Latest Entertainment Group CHEMICAL DJS - Vancouver D-Monic DJ Tasc Dave Saddler Red Turtle Wendy Law DJ Mez :EVIL YET STILL HAPPY HARDCORE: presented by GOODFELAS DELTA 9 - USA Frisky & Hujib Gobs the Zombie Bacchus E.N.d Psyklone Scoots Tyco Virus Xphox vs Tempest DESTINY666 BEST COSTUME CONTEST: Win Cash & Guestlist to everything Destiny & Temporal Rhythm including WEMF for an entire year! Arrive early if you plan on entering the contest! Costume categories and contest details available online @ www.destiny666.com NEED TO BUY OR RENT A COSTUME? We have arranged for special 'destiny discounts' at: Amazing Party & Costume Supply - 923 Oxford St., Etobicoke - 416.259.5959 VENUE : Destiny666: Freakout, will be taking place at The Docks Entertainment Complex 11 Polson St, Downtown Toronto. This location will create the ultimate Halloween environment, complete with the most advanced installation of Sound, Lighting and Visuals you have come to expect from Destiny. * For maps and driving directions please visit www.destiny666.com Driving directions will also be made available on our infoline 24 hours prior to the event. TICKET PRICES: $25 Early Bird (First 200 Tickets @ Numb, Play De Record) $35 Next 666 Tickets $40 Last Minute Tickets More @ Door. DESTINY events are never oversold! Last year's event completely sold out! Avoid disappointment - purchase your tickets in advance! Arrive extra early if paying at the door. ONLY purchase tickets from the official outlets listed on this flyer or the official Destiny website. We will be scanning all tickets for fakes and will not honor counterfit tickets in anyway! SUPPORT THOSE THAT SUPPORT YOU! OS & OV TICKET OUTLETS: CANADA/USA All TICKETMASTER locations across Canada & USA. Charge by phone @ 416.870.8000 or online at www.ticketmaster.ca or www.ticketmaster.com ONLINE only retailers: www.Groovetickets.com www.Ticketbreak.com TORONTO Numb - 250 Queen St W - 416.599.5424 Play De Record - 357A Yonge St - 416.586.0380 Zoam - 2503 Yonge st. - 416.494.8121 Delphic - 706 Queen St W - 416.603.3334 MISSISSAUGA \ ETOBICOKE Unicus - Square One - 905.897.6900 Amazing Party & costume - 923 Oxford St - 416.259.5959 BRAMPTON Highway Bramalea City Centre 905.799.1027 BARRIE Drop The Needle 69 Dunlop St West 705.737.4624 ORANGEVILLE The Altered Native 172 Broadway Ave., Unit #1 519.942.2828 COLLINGWOOD The Altered Native 168 Hurontario St., Unit A 705.445.0228 GEORGETOWN The Altered Native 134 Guelph St., Unit #1 905.877.7884 OAKVILLE Hustler 111 Kerr St. 905.844.1688 HAMILTON Dr. Disc 20 Wilson St. 905.523.1010 ST CATHARINES MIXED STYLES 213 St.Paul St 905 984 4442 KITCHENER Shakedown 276 King St. W 519.570.0440 LONDON >From Mars 347 Talbot Street 519.438.6277 ATTENION: Destiny prides itself on producing the highest quality electronic music events in Canada! We produce these events for a mature audience and therefore do not recommend them for those under 18 years of age. ROAR in effect - If you feel you can contribute to the positive vibe and are at least 16 years of age then you may attend. This event will feature fully stocked, licensed areas for those 19 years of age or older with proper ID. <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-27-freakout_2007.poster.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Oct 27 IRENE Columbus? <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-27-irene.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Oct 27 MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE 2 Akron <a href="http://groups.myspace.com/mastersoftheuniverse2">Myspace Group</a> 3 rooms of unbeatable sound and lights... Here is the final line up--- DJ Rectangle vs. Total Eclipse Sykopath DJ Phiction Random(seed) DVS Van Norman Hazey Zone Smartie Roc Dez Drastik Hooty Cubby Vinny Peace Doug B - Encyclopedia Brown - Nox Evasion Anthony Rich Paul B Also, a limited number of presales are available thru me get in touch with me via myspace myspace.com/rainbowjewels $20 presale $25 at the door myspace.com/future_noise for more info. <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-27-masters_of_the_universe_2.front.gif"> <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-27-masters_of_the_universe_2.back.gif"> <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-27-masters_of_the_universe_2.pre.front.jpg"> <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-27-masters_of_the_universe_2.pre.back.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Oct 27 TRIPLE THREAT Detroit The D.E.V.I.L.,Moto,313 Family, and Hardcore 313 present: TRIPLE THREAT Live Performances: Cozmic Spore Techno www.seimicdetroit.com Detroit Cignal To Noise Acid Techno www.planetdetroit.net Detroit Jesse James Min. Techno 313 Family,Night Sneak Detroit Latondrez Techno R.U.G.,313 family Detroit Module 8 Min. Techno EOC Detroit Process 42 Industrial Detroit Sonic Disturbance Tech Breaks EOC Detroit Disc Jockeys: Rob Rage(3 tables) Hard Techno Columbus Tweaker Association Columbus,OH The Disciple Drum & Bass 313 Family,Lockdown Records Detroit,MI DMOND Hard Techno Hardcore 313, 313 Family Detroit ACO Hard Techno Hardcore 313 Detroit Gary G Techno Melodies & Memories Detroit Wafflestomper Hardcore/Freeform Diehard,Hardcore 313 Detroit Damselfly Gabber/Hardcore Hardcore 313 Detroit Dr. Whipple Freeform Hardcore 313 Detroit more TBA...... $10 w/ a costume $15 w/o Located @ Fi Nite Gallery 1370 Plum(corner of Brooklyn & plum) 18+ w/ID to enter Doors 9pm-When the sun comes up HAPPY 50th BIRTHDAY ROB RAGE!!!!! SOUND: DMOND VIDEO GAMES: 313 Family -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sun Oct 28 DARUDE Dayton 10.28.2007 KATE Worldwide proudly presents: Sanctuary @ Masque +The last sunday of every month+ sanc.tu.ary (n) . 1. a place of refuge and protection in a troubled world. This month featuring: DARUDE - Finland His name is synonymous with driving beats and unrelenting energy, has been an innovator in dance music since he smashed his way onto the scene 8 years ago with his global hit track "Sandstorm" which has been featured in almost every facet of EDM Culture. He is back with yet another genre-breaking track, the debut single, .Tell Me., from his upcoming 3rd artist album, .Label This!. which is poised to rock its way up the charts and across the globe. Don.t miss out on this international super star that is sure to incite the imagination of every person in the room & leave you begging for more! Tony DeSaro & Drew Whiteted - Dayton (KATE Worldwide) Phrenzy- Dayton (Rokit Labs, KATE Worldwide) DJ Nostalgic - Dayton (Downtown Ent., KATE Worldwide) Doug Collins - Dayton (KATE Worldwide) Join us on the last sunday of every month at our Sanctuary. A place where you can let your inhibitions run wild & your wildest dreams will manifest before your eyes. With such a troubling world outside we feel it necessary to have a place for people to come to enjoy true EDM culture & truly let go. No rules, no limits, just you & the music. Time 9pm-4am Venue Club Masque *upstairs* 34 N. Jefferson St. Dayton, OH 45424 Admission $5 early bird $10 pre-sale $15 @ the door $20 V.I.P. 18+ to enter 21+ to drink w/ proper I.D. Contact/Info V.I.P. Tables & Tickets: Tony . 937.232.0980 . tony@kateworldwide.net Questions/Promotions: Jon . 937-219-6057 . director@kateworldwide.net Web Support kateworldwide.net myspace.com darude.com byassn.com hmc.fi <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-28-darude.gif"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Fri Nov 02 JUNGLE JUICE 8 YR ANNIV Detroit FRIDAY NOVEMBER 2ND Jungle Juice Productions and Breakloose Present The Jungle Juice 8 Year Anniversary FEATURING: APHRODITE Urban Takeover, Aphrodite Records (UK) Dilemma Jungle Juice Productions/Breakloose (DET) -vs- Ronin Selecta Breakloose, Hydro, Bassdrive (AA) (Special 2 hour old school jump up set) Matt Haggerty Jungle Juice Prod.(San Diego) DJ Seoul Breakloose, D T M, Bang Tech 12 (DET) Exodus Breakloose (TOL) Teddie Breakloose (DET) Nimbus Breakloose (DET) Stonecypher Breakloose, Urban Music Refinery (DET) The Vandal Breakloose (DET) Hosted By Jungle Juices very own original Bad Boy MC PLAY & Breaklooses resident the one they call TEDDY MC Shouts go out to the orignal JJP Crew - Rampage (Matt Hagerty), Petros, & The Rude One Dutch Bwoy Doors @ 9pm 18+ w/ proper ID Cover $10 before midnight FREE JUNGLE JUICE while supplies last @ The Works 1846 Michigan Ave. Detroit, MI -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Nov 03 TRANCEFORMERS Akron <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-11-03-tranceformers.front.jpg"> <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-11-03-tranceformers.back.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Nov 08 RAVE RELIGION AND THUMPER Cincinnati RAVE + RELIGION + THUMPER on nov 8th Body: Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket Thursday November 8th at the "I WILL BEAT YOU TO DEATH" house Riverside, Cincinnati (might be re-located) Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket DJ THUMPER - debut of live laptop/midi set, mash-ups of mainstream pop & rock to hardcore & breakcore beats, next day flying out for the Ravesplotation festival in L.A!!! http://www.myspace.com/thumpallnight MINCEMEAT OR TENSPEED - Philadelphia wild rhythmic noise, hard beats coming outta distortion pedals, he visited Southgate House last July if you caught that one http://www.myspace.com/mincemeatortenspeed NARWHALZ - Richmond gameboy warlord http://www.myspace.com/narwhalsofsound and a co-founder of The Church Of Crystal Light "center for experimental christianity and crafts" http://www.myspace.com/crystallightnoxqsz KYLE H. MABSON - Los Angeles party posse leader, DJ'ing the hottest L.A. events at venues such as The Smell, now chillabrating on an east U.S. tour http://www.myspace.com/kdiddybitches 6pm, write/call for details/directions. -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Nov 10 21 GUN SALUTE Toronto Saturday, November 10, 2007 - 9:00pm to 6:00am Funhaus, 526 Queen St. West $10 advance, $10 @ door for 19+, more at door for under 19 Licensed Area, Concessions, 16+, 2 Rooms LINE UP SC@R B2B UPLIFT - Hardcore [Raw Elements UK, Raindance, History of Hardcore, Eruption 101.3fm - United Kingdom] Chiclet - Hard Trance [djchiclet.com, Viva Nightclub, Purple Heaven - Toronto, Ontario] Station aka: Opel B2B Xofer - Breaks [Embedded Entertainment, xofer.com, Goodfellaz, Deprivation Records - Toronto, Ontario] Saigon B2B Maniak - Drum & Bass [Front Left, Theory, Simpl3 - Toronto, Ontario] Scartat B2B JePh- Mungle W/Locked [De.ranged Entertainment, Biological Beats, Terror Inc., Junction Junglist - Toronto, Ontario] Sprout B2B Impact - Hardstyle [Jitterjaw, De.ranged Entertainment, D.zire Inc., Terror Inc. - Sudbury/Oshawa, Ontario] Dynamic B2B Skye - Happy Hardcore [De.ranged Entertainment, Nocturnal Commissions, Embedded Entertainment - USA.. kinda.] Gabbo - Hard Techno [Hitman Productions, Terror Inc., De.ranged Entertainment - Toronto, Ontario] Evantech - Whatever (House, breaks, ... that funky stuff) [Civil Defense, TSA, De.ranged Entertainment - Toronto, Ontario] George (Who Spins Records) - Happy Hardcore [Nocturnal Commissions, Embedded Entertainment, De.ranged Entertainment - Toronchester, Ontario] Dj Kenezo B2B DJ Tevlon D W/Mc A-Z -Jungle/Drum & Bass [Levitation - Toronto, Ont] Dj King Pin - Ragga Jungle [Ruff Plate Militia, Dub Plate Specialist - Toronto, Ont] Dj Yoshi Mojo W/MC Mensa - Drum & Bass [SolidSoldiers, yoshimojo.multiply.com - Midland] Spin laden ( the turn table terrorist) aka: Madizm - Ragga Jungle [M.U.F.F - Toronto, Ont] INFO @ 6472835474 http://www.myspace.com/derangedentertainment http://www.purerave.com/events/16483 http://www.torontojungle.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15624 -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Nov 10 KONSPIRACY Detroit Saturday, November 10th, 2007 Locked Down Entertainment presents.... K o n s p i r a c y Aaron-Carl Wallshaker Music Wilhelm K D-Version The Disciple Locked Down Ent E. Dubb Wallshaker Music Jesse James Nightsneak Brian Scott DUG Recordings/D-Version DJ Twizzler Drum & Bass Dj Gusto Nightsneak Raskalz Vinyl Vixens The Machinist Motown Depth Shane P Jazzy House Zeroxxx Detour Ent Info: $10 all night Doors open at 9pm til 6am Location: Fi-Nite Gallery 1370 Plum Detroit, MI 48207 <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-11-10-konspiracy.front.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Nov 10 PARTY MONSTER pgh? [still looking for info on this one] -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Fri Nov 16 DB Pittsburgh <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-11-16-db.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Fri Nov 16 SUBSTANCE Cleveland A Koala-tea and B.A.D. Ass. Collaboration. Friday November 16th, 2007 "Substance" Featuring... Dieselboy Human // www.djdieselboy.com Punisher Detroit // Hej records // Seismic Terry Urban Cleveland // www.terryurban.com Still Life Cleveland // Grand Poo Bas DVS Pittsburgh // B.A.D. Ass // Koala-Tea // Phoenix Mgmt Truck Stop Tourist (Andy James and 1 Auxy) Akron // Tek-Know // Re(vision) // BerettaMusic // Lovethang Vinny Peace Cleveland // B.A.D. Ass Robtronix Cleveland // Koala-Tea // B.A.D. Ass Nox Cleveland // Koala-Tea Damien Cleveland // Koala-Tea // Mercury Lounge Abduction w/ MC Barrenzemo Youngstown & Dubois // B.A.D. Ass. // Fever // 40oz Casualties Grasshoppa Cleveland // 02 Radio // Koncrete Ohio Greg Zorn Cleveland // Jam Solid Nocturnal Akron // O.P.C. Hosted by. MC Infinity Akron // Koncrete Ohio // New Ascension // TSK // B.A.D. Ass Admission: $10 Limited // $15 Advance // $20 Door Age Restrictions: +18 to Enter // +21 to Drink Hours: 10PM . 4AM Advance tickets: www.groovetickets.com Grand Poo Bas Records 11823 Detroit Ave. Lakewood, Ohio 44107 (216) 521-9177 www.poo-bas.com Wanna be a VIP? "Get Spotted. in Spot Cleveland.s own VIP section! VIP includes NO wait in line, VIP mezzanine access, and FREE after party admission. VIP: $25 Venue: Metropolis Nightclub 2325 Elm Street Cleveland, OH 44113 Websupport: www.koala-tea.com www.brokeassdjs.com www.clevelandnightlife.net www.spotcleveland.com <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-11-16-substance.2.jpg"> <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-11-16-substance.front.jpg"> <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-11-16-substance.back.jpg"> <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-11-16-substance.pre.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Nov 17 BOUNCE 3 Pittsburgh <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-11-17-bounce_3.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Fri Nov 30 HARD BEATZ WITH A VENGEANCE Pittsburgh [fucking a awesome] Spirits of Change This is gonna be crazy !!!!! Spirits of Change brings you Hard Beatz with a Vengeance Friday November 30, 2007 Featuring Brisk-Hardcore (UK) DVS -hard house- Tika vs. Leash -hardcore- Vinny Peace-hard techno- Jake the Snake -jungle funk- Hooty -speed garage- More info coming soon! <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-11-30-hard_beatz_with_a_vengeance.front.2.jpg"> <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-11-30-hard_beatz_with_a_vengeance.back.2.jpg"> <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-11-30-hard_beatz_with_a_vengeance.front.jpg"> <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-11-30-hard_beatz_with_a_vengeance.back.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- ??? Nov ?? SOME AKRON THING crAkron hey, we're working on the date and whatnot. lineup is coming together. plur and sparkles - trout -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Mon Dec 31 MAGIC CARPET Detroit R.U.G. & The D.E.V.I.L. present: MAGIC CARPET 12/31/07 in Beatiful Detroit city Michigan Featuring: Brill(live pa) Drum & Bass Mad At Society Rec. Las Vegas,NV COZMIC SPORE(live pa) Acid Techno www.seismicdetroit.com Detroit,MI Tim Baker House Elephant Haus, www.planetdetroit.net Detroit,MI Other family favorites: Dj Seoul Electro Bang Tech 12,DTM,Breakloose Detroit Red Pill: Blue Pill(live pa) Acid Techno www.planetdetroit.net, 313 Family Detroit,MI Ben Wu Techno/House/Electro Bang Tech 12 Indianapolis,IN MD! w/ Teddy MC Drum & Bass www.nefarious.net,Dluv Detroit,MI The Disciple Drum & Bass 313 Family, Locked down Records Detroit,MI Wataru(3 tables,2 hours!) Techno Mad At Society Rec. Detroit,MI DMOND Vs. ACO(2 hours) Hard Techno Moto,313 Family,Hardcore 313 Detroit,MI Jesse James(live pa) Min. Techno Nightsneak Ent. Detroit,MI Uncontent(live pa & DJ) Dirty Sleazy Electro 313 Family,Mad At Society Rec. Detroit/Las Vegas,NV TS 1 Techno www.planetdetroit.net Detroit,MI Hammer Brothers(live pa) Techno www.planetdetroit.net Detroit,MI Wax Drum & Bass 313 Family,Shadowbeat Detroit,MI Donald Wahn Freeform/Hardcore Hardcore 313 Detroit,MI Damselfly Gabber/Hardcore Hardcore 313 Detroit,MI VENUE INFO TO BE POSTED ON OCTOBER 27th... Doors 9pm-6am 18+w/ID to enter $10 before midnight $15 after.$5 off with out of state ID or if you come from Ann Arbor,Kzoo,GR areas or any further north than Flint....Your ID must prove this....Info:313 721 3673 THIS IS ONLY THE BEGINNING OF THIS LINEUP....We LOVE YOU DETROIT!! -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Feb 16 TOUGH LOVE Cleveland <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/08-02-16-tough_love.front.gif"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Jul 18-19, 2008 HULLA REUNION 2008 Toronto [probably the opera house. a wonderously shittastic venue] Hullabaloo reunion 2008!!! :) Yes! there will be a Hulla next summer www.hulla.info The next Hullabaloo reunion date is the weekend of July 18th and 19th, 2008. It's hard to argue with how fast tickets sold out for OMGH, but the party itself was such a critical and emotional success we decided to seize the left over feelings in the air and mark that date for a future reunion party. Hulla will forever be officially .over. but it was really nice to revisit it, as well as welcome a whole new generation of Hulla Ravers into the fold and we look forward to doing it one more time. The other thing is that Hullabaloo has turned into a global party, attracting patrons from all over the world, so it seemed prudent to let people start making their plans now since there could be significant investment by some in getting here. More details about the party and weekend won.t be made until early 2008, but after talking to many patrons about their need to plan ahead I.ve come up with an optional way to hold a ticket for the next event. Announcing the Hulla Friend Membership. - $25 discount off our 2008 reunion event tickets! (So ultimately you pay nothing) - Tickets for Hulla Friends go on sale ONE WEEK before regular availability (no mayhem on ticket day) - 20% discount code for all Hullabaloo box sets from the HullaStore (not including OMGH or DVD). - Special mailing list that will keep you updated on all Hulla event news - You will get sent a link to the new flyer 24 hours before it goes public (expected Feburary 2008). The price is $25, which as noted is deducted from your ticket purchase when they go on sale. There.s also some more free bonuses: If you buy your Hulla Friend Membership with the OMGH and/or Hulla DVD you get 2 FREE BONUS CDs (a $30 value!): Anabolic Frolic live @ Hullabaloo Accelerator - This was a test run for a "Happy2bHardcore LIVE" project that never saw release. A complete pro-tools live audience recording putting you right into the party. This set was also notable since it contained the Frolics' baby announcement! Anabolic Frolic @ MC Storm live @ Hullabaloo WEMF Stage 2002. The last ever Hulla stage at WEMF went down in history with Frolic & Storm together again, and the famous marriage proposal at the end of the set! Both these CDs are out of print and this is your only way to get them. They're yours free (a $30 value!) for anyone adding a Hulla Friend Membership to their OMGH box set and/or DVD order. Only a limited number of Hulla Friend Memberships will be sold and this offer can be rescinded at any time. It's not our intention to sell-out next year's Hullabaloo reunion before tickets even go on sale so we will cut these off at any time. But for those of you that get in before they're gone you're getting a great value and you can mark next year's date off the calendar knowing you've got a head start on tickets. We.ll also be using a new ticketing system for next year.s event which won.t falter under the volume of orders, so we expect tickets to sell out even faster (in hours, or even minutes?), so this will give you some breathing room. Hulla Friend Memberships go on sale tomorrow (August 2nd) at the HullaStore, along with pre-orders of the OMGH box set of recordings and Hulla DVDs -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- varied TROUTS PICKS varied trout's picks,,,,, these are a list of random things that aren't really rave/"electronica" related but might be fun in any event. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Madison Ave Art Walk (Cleveland) On Friday, October 5, 2007, MAMA(Madison Avenue Merchants Association) in conjunction with Lakewood Is Art (LIA) will launch it.s first ever MAMA LIA Art Walk. The Walk will begin at 6pm and go through 10pm. What is an Art Walk? An art walk is an event enjoyed in many communities around the country. It is a designated day and time that galleries and art studios, shops and restaurants, all join forces to create a extraordinary time for visitors to go from place to place feasting both their eyes and their taste buds as they stroll through town enjoying the best of what is offered by its artists. Local restaurants may offer Art Walk specials. Street corners and shops feature entertainment treats such as musicians and singers, jugglers and poets. It is also a splendid occasion to purchase interesting pieces of art at very affordable prices.The Art Walk process is simple . proceed at your own pace, wander into galleries and businesses that capture your fancy, stroll around a delightful area punctuated by, historic architecture, restaurants, quaint businesses and more. How do I do the Art Walk? Come to Madison Avenue and pick up a Art Walk Guide, available at all participating shops and restaurants. The guide has a map locating all the featured art exhibits. And off you go! Begin anywhere, go in any order you like, visit as many as you like. All exhibits and entertainment are free of charge. Signage at the entrance to each exhibit will indicate audience age appropriateness. For advance information regarding specific exhibits, which for updates to our website! What can I expect from this Art Walk? Be prepared to be surprised by the wide array of artistic styles that are represented this evening in businesses," from landscapes to cutting-edge contemporary, from paintings to pottery. The Art Walk will keep you on your cultural toes!An Art Walk is also a great place to "people watch." Sure, artists may be "guested" at individual "gallery" receptions, or demonstrating their work, but the art-walking public itself offers up a wide slice of life, a mix of locals and visitors of all kinds.Art Walk participants in cities from Tremont to Toronto, often plan an entire evening that combines an Art Walk with a foray for drinks, dining or the theater. So, complete your evening with a visit to one of the many eateries, or clubs. Join the fun, become part of the Madison Avenue art scene, and Art Walk with us! If you would like to participate as an artist, a performer or a volunteer, contact rkoenigsmark@yahoo.com or call 216.521.2894 --------------------------------------------------------------------- zombiefest 2007 - oct 27-28 http://www.theitsaliveshow.com/Zombiefest2007.htm --------------------------------------------------------------------- april 4-8, 2008 - http://www.notacon.org/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- armageddicon III - http://animepunch.org/ -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- compiled, but not necessarily current, as of Thu Oct 11 07:13:01 EDT 2007. -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90483-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 11 13:34:46 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90483-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8434 invoked by uid 1162); 11 Oct 2007 13:34:46 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8410 invoked from network); 11 Oct 2007 13:34:45 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=vdhOjipaCN9KwOXD8sAqkNqt6TAd15ld4oQiqIj736/aocuapEOH3hH476DdqTQ5pD42B29Er90INhjbI1VKIggnK4+NDZNE6jVhjASy1whxeNk5NAEIbfJYzadjL9QwtEtQL0/xvW8AJR0hBv54B+RVHe0nggVK6CtB1SOAc/o=; X-YMail-OSG: 91JlYYYVM1lnxDQmDFDnW3YRDi.ERU6MMMKqjJMHVa205YX_amisqnrcCJrwJvbF3e7vkBPeAnCudQolzPASHwOZrB_9HTr5xKB7Lj8W9sfnd2xf4hE- Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 06:34:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Amanda von Schtupp <a_yesko@yahoo.com> To: "pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org" <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> In-Reply-To: <d65.14063f9d.343eaf52@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1405858225-1192109684=:20073" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <547071.20073.qm@web54009.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} NRR Um weird attachmehts --0-1405858225-1192109684=:20073 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Several years ago, I told my father I was considering going back to school to get a Master's in social work. I wanted to work with the mentally ill, especially with schizophrenics. My father's schizophrenic step-daughter had committed suicide a year or so prior, and I had also become good friends with someone diagnosed with schizo-affective disorder when he was a teenager (turns out he doesn't have that ... but this was years ago). I ran this idea by my father because I was seeing if he'd help pay for my tuition. Well, the whole thing was the worst idea he'd ever heard. I got yelled at and told that social work is one of the most depressing, underpaid, and undervalued fields to go into. He told me I better off staying in retail management. Amanda XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com wrote:Some of the social worker's are good people while other just got a job from the phoney system. They really have no future and jail is actually better than some of their home lifes. Fuck You to the cops and everyone else that makes a living off of other peoples suffering. --------------------------------- Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. --0-1405858225-1192109684=:20073 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Several years ago, I told my father I was considering going back to school to get a Master's in social work. I wanted to work with the mentally ill, especially with schizophrenics. My father's schizophrenic step-daughter had committed suicide a year or so prior, and I had also become good friends with someone diagnosed with schizo-affective disorder when he was a teenager (turns out he doesn't have that ... but this was years ago). I ran this idea by my father because I was seeing if he'd help pay for my tuition. Well, the whole thing was the worst idea he'd ever heard. I got yelled at and told that social work is one of the most depressing, underpaid, and undervalued fields to go into. He told me I better off staying in retail management. <br><br>Amanda<br><br><b><i>XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com</i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><font id="role_document" color="#000000" face="Arial" size="2"><div>Some of the social worker's are good people while other just got a job from the phoney system. They really have no future and jail is actually better than some of their home lifes. Fuck You to the cops and everyone else that makes a living off of other peoples suffering.</div></font></blockquote><br><p> <hr size=1>Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! <br><a href="http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48223/*http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow">Play Monopoly Here and Now</a> (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. --0-1405858225-1192109684=:20073-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90484-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 11 16:33:21 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90484-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 58008 invoked by uid 1162); 11 Oct 2007 16:33:20 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 57989 invoked from network); 11 Oct 2007 16:33:20 -0000 From: XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com Message-ID: <bf3.16cd0e60.343faa3b@aol.com> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 12:32:59 EDT To: a_yesko@yahoo.com, pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1192120379" X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 102 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} NRR Um weird attachmehts -------------------------------1192120379 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/11/2007 9:34:58 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, a_yesko@yahoo.com writes: I got yelled at and told that social work is one of the most depressing, underpaid, and undervalued fields to go into. Its true..I have respect for my one counselor he is a smart, cool and nice person. He agrees with me when I say the prison system serves no purpose and he tells us about how much of assholes certain local judges are. On the other hand you got the people working in this social facility just for the paycheck who's idea of social work is administering punishment. If I want to get out of group 45 minutes early I answer every single question....This isn't fair to my peers because they actually might benefit from this class...The counselors even tell me just don't answer the question so they can think about it...Why the hell am I coming here? Everyone knows I don't need it....So people can make money off it...that's why. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -------------------------------1192120379 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3DUS-ASCII"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16546" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY id=3Drole_body style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY:=20= Arial"=20 bottomMargin=3D7 leftMargin=3D7 topMargin=3D7 rightMargin=3D7><FONT id=3Drol= e_document=20 face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D2> <DIV> <DIV>In a message dated 10/11/2007 9:34:58 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,=20 a_yesko@yahoo.com writes:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"><= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>I got=20 yelled at and told that social work is one of the most depressing, underpa= id,=20 and undervalued fields to go into. </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV>Its true..I have respect for my one counselor he is a smart, cool and n= ice=20 person. He agrees with me when I say the prison system serves no purpose and= he=20 tells us about how much of assholes certain local judges are. On the other h= and=20 you got the people working in this social facility just for the paycheck who= 's=20 idea of social work is administering punishment. If I want to get out of gro= up=20 45 minutes early I answer every single question....This isn't fair to my pee= rs=20 because they actually might benefit from this class...The counselors even te= ll=20 me just don't answer the question so they can think about it...Why the hell=20= am I=20 coming here? Everyone knows I don't need it....So people can make money off=20 it...that's why.</DIV></FONT><BR><BR><BR><DIV><FONT style=3D"color: black; f= ont: normal 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF;"><HR style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 10px">See what'= s new at <A title=3D"http://www.aol.com?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001170" href= =3D"http://www.aol.com?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001170" target=3D"_blank">AOL.co= m</A> and <A title=3D"http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=3DAOLCMP003000000= 01169" href=3D"http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001169"=20= target=3D"_blank">Make AOL Your Homepage</A>.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> -------------------------------1192120379-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90485-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 11 16:54:09 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90485-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 72126 invoked by uid 1162); 11 Oct 2007 16:54:08 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 72105 invoked from network); 11 Oct 2007 16:54:08 -0000 From: XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com Message-ID: <d2b.188f90c4.343faf1e@aol.com> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 12:53:50 EDT To: a_yesko@yahoo.com, pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1192121630" X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 102 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} NRR Um weird attachmehts -------------------------------1192121630 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/11/2007 9:34:58 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, a_yesko@yahoo.com writes: I had also become good friends with someone diagnosed with schizo-affective disorder when he was a teenager (turns out he doesn't I have a funny feeling that once I am free of the misery I have to endure within the criminal justice system my mental illness is going to disappear ;) Mite as well get back the thousands of dollars of invested into social security and my pension.....I doubt I will live long enough to get them at retirement age. I'm thinking an equal number of years on vacation to the number of years takin from my life for false imprisonment. Or when i get back what I have contributed. Problem is the boredom factor. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -------------------------------1192121630 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3DUS-ASCII"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16546" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY id=3Drole_body style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY:=20= Arial"=20 bottomMargin=3D7 leftMargin=3D7 topMargin=3D7 rightMargin=3D7><FONT id=3Drol= e_document=20 face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D2> <DIV> <DIV>In a message dated 10/11/2007 9:34:58 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,=20 a_yesko@yahoo.com writes:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"><= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>I had=20 also become good friends with someone diagnosed with schizo-affective diso= rder=20 when he was a teenager (turns out he doesn't </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV>I have a funny feeling that once I am free of the misery I have to endu= re=20 within the criminal justice system my mental illness is going to disapp= ear=20 ;) Mite as well get back the thousands of dollars of invested into social=20 security and my pension.....I doubt I will live long enough to get them at=20 retirement age. I'm thinking an equal number of years on vacation to the num= ber=20 of years takin from my life for false imprisonment. Or when i get back what=20= I=20 have contributed. 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Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10775 invoked from network); 12 Oct 2007 01:48:01 -0000 From: Majestic216@cs.com Message-ID: <bf0.1c10819d.34402c4e@cs.com> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 21:47:58 EDT To: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_bf0.1c10819d.34402c4e_boundary" X-Mailer: 6.0 for Windows XP sub 50 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} NRR Um weird attachmehts --part1_bf0.1c10819d.34402c4e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/11/2007 11:33:32 AM Eastern Standard Time, XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com writes: > Its true..I have respect for my one counselor he is a smart, cool and nice > person. He agrees with me when I say the prison system serves no purpose and > he tells us about how much of assholes certain local judges are. On the other > hand you got the people working in this social facility just for the > paycheck who's idea of social work is administering punishment. If I want to get out > of group 45 minutes early I answer every single question....This isn't fair > to my peers because they actually might benefit from this class...The > counselors even tell me just don't answer the question so they can think about > it...Why the hell am I coming here? Everyone knows I don't need it....So people > can make money off it...that's why. > You know, I;m usually content to siit by and listen to the lot of you sit around and spout gossip and b.s., but this comment really got under my skin. After working the last 7 years in a very intimate role with many mental health & drug and alcohol addiction treatment service providers, along with the state of ohio, odjfs, odmh, and odadas. I really can assure anyone else reading this that the last statement is pure bullshit. Mental health and other treatment networks are without a doubt amoung the MOST EFFICIENT of any government supported services. Sure you have a handful of people in any career path that hate their jobs, but to be in this path, you are defintaly not in it for the paycheck. I have met sooo many inspiring people, doing amzing things to trying their damndest to make this world a little bit better of a place, and trust, none of them are making a mint, not in this field. If everyone knew that you didn;t need help, you wouldn;t be there. Rather than begetting resistence with your woe is me attitude, you need to step up to the plate and embrace the opportunity to learn what they are trying teaching you (not just memorize answers so you can leave group early). If that's not enough for you, go to school, get an education, if you see deficiencies in the system, use you experience to get involved on a professional level and work to change them. Constructive ideas make things better, destructive comments will get you nowhere. It's amazing when you come to the table with positive ideas, how many doors will open. Don't sit around and shoot your mouth about people that have devoted thier lives to building networks to provide essential support services. Networks that provide help, so people have places to seek help whenever confronted by such terifying and isolating issues such as suicide, addiction, depression, etc. </HTML> --part1_bf0.1c10819d.34402c4e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 PTSIZE=3D10>In a message=20= dated 10/11/2007 11:33:32 AM Eastern Standard Time, XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com= writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-= LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Its true..I have respect fo= r my one counselor he is a smart, cool and nice person. He agrees with me wh= en I say the prison system serves no purpose and he tells us about how much=20= of assholes certain local judges are. On the other hand you got the people w= orking in this social facility just for the paycheck who's idea of social wo= rk is administering punishment. If I want to get out of group 45 minutes ear= ly I answer every single question....This isn't fair to my peers because the= y actually might benefit from this class...The counselors even tell me just=20= don't answer the question so they can think about it...Why the hell am I com= ing here? Everyone knows I don't need it....So people can make money off it.= ..that's why. <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" BACK=3D"#ffffff" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COL= OR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 PTSIZE=3D12 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG= =3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" BACK=3D"#ffffff" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COL= OR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 PTSIZE=3D10 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG= =3D"0"> <BR>You know, I;m usually content to siit by and listen to the lot of you si= t around and spout gossip and b.s., but this comment really got under my ski= n.  After working the last 7 years in a very intimate role with many me= ntal health & drug and alcohol addiction treatment service providers, al= ong with the state of ohio, odjfs, odmh, and odadas.  I really can assu= re anyone else reading this that the last statement is pure bullshit. <BR> <BR>Mental health and other treatment networks are without a doubt amoung th= e MOST EFFICIENT of any government supported services.  Sure you have a= handful of people in any career path that hate their jobs, but to be in thi= s path, you are defintaly not in it for the paycheck. I have met sooo many i= nspiring people, doing amzing things to trying their damndest to make this w= orld a little bit better of a place, and trust, none of them are making a mi= nt, not in this field.   <BR> <BR>If everyone knew that you didn;t need help, you wouldn;t be there.  = ;Rather than begetting resistence with your woe is me attitude, you need to=20= step up to the plate and embrace the opportunity to learn what they are tryi= ng teaching you (not just memorize answers so you can leave group early). &n= bsp;If that's not enough for you, go to school, get an education, if you see= deficiencies in the system, use you experience to get involved on a profess= ional level and work to change them. Constructive ideas make things better,=20= destructive comments will get you nowhere.  It's amazing when you come=20= to the table with positive ideas, how many doors will open.=20 <BR> <BR>Don't sit around and shoot your mouth about people that have devoted thi= er lives to building networks to provide essential support services.  N= etworks that provide help, so people have places to seek help whenever confr= onted by such terifying and isolating issues such as suicide, addiction, dep= ression, etc. <BR> <BR></FONT> </HTML> --part1_bf0.1c10819d.34402c4e_boundary-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90487-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 12 02:51:18 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90487-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 34393 invoked by uid 1162); 12 Oct 2007 02:51:17 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 34373 invoked from network); 12 Oct 2007 02:51:16 -0000 From: XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com Message-ID: <cad.1b3814c6.34403b1e@aol.com> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 22:51:10 EDT To: Majestic216@cs.com, pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1192157470" X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 102 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} NRR Um weird attachmehts -------------------------------1192157470 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I never get any answers about my treatment.I have sat down with someone before and went over a treatment plan and agreed and signed it. The last 2 weeks someone is tryin to pull some sort of fast one on me...They have twice tried to get me to sign a new treatment plan without reading it. I already signed a treatment plan...Oh this is nothing its no big deal....Well it is no big deal than i guess its no nig deal if i don't sign it. Oh we'll make you a copy....Ok I would like a copy to read before I sign it....sure no problem.....Had 2 hours to goto a copy machine and bring it back......A week later tried the same thing with the same results. I can't get any answer about my treatment....Questions about my treatment at another facilty got me discharged with a referal....Well I had no clue what this meant and ended up with NO treatment...I dunno how things work in Ohio but you have to call case management and make every move through them....And i guess you are supposed to know this by instinct...Actaully i think they fired case management now so I really have no clue what to do now......And noone tells you anything or answers your questions....HELP MY ASS...I can't get an answer of how I went from seeing a doctor to seeing a physcians assistant....I'd just as well see the real doctor I have been seeing the last 3 years. You get what they force on you and that's all. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -------------------------------1192157470 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3DUS-ASCII"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16546" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY id=3Drole_body style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY:=20= Arial"=20 bottomMargin=3D7 leftMargin=3D7 topMargin=3D7 rightMargin=3D7><FONT id=3Drol= e_document=20 face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D2> <DIV>I never get any answers about my treatment.I have sat down with someone= =20 before and went over a treatment plan and agreed and signed it. The last 2 w= eeks=20 someone is tryin to pull some sort of fast one on me...They have twice tried= to=20 get me to sign a new treatment plan without reading it. I already signed a=20 treatment plan...Oh this is nothing its no big deal....Well it is no big dea= l=20 than i guess its no nig deal if i don't sign it. Oh we'll make you a copy...= .Ok=20 I would like a copy to read before I sign it....sure no problem.....Had 2 ho= urs=20 to goto a copy machine and bring it back......A week later tried the same th= ing=20 with the same results. I can't get any answer about my treatment....Question= s=20 about my treatment at another facilty got me discharged with a referal....We= ll I=20 had no clue what this meant and ended up with NO treatment...I dunno how thi= ngs=20 work in Ohio but you have to call case management and make every move throug= h=20 them....And i guess you are supposed to know this by instinct...Actaully i t= hink=20 they fired case management now so I really have no clue what to do now......= And=20 noone tells you anything or answers your questions....HELP MY ASS...I can't=20= get=20 an answer of how I went from seeing a doctor to seeing a physcians=20 assistant....I'd just as well see the real doctor I have been seeing the las= t 3=20 years. You get what they force on you and that's all.</DIV></FONT><BR><BR><B= R><DIV><FONT style=3D"color: black; font: normal 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF;"><HR= style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 10px">See what's new at <A title=3D"http://www.aol.com= ?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001170" href=3D"http://www.aol.com?NCID=3DAOLCMP003000= 00001170" target=3D"_blank">AOL.com</A> and <A title=3D"http://www.aol.com/m= ksplash.adp?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001169" href=3D"http://www.aol.com/mksplash= .adp?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001169" target=3D"_blank">Make AOL Your Homepage</= A>.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> -------------------------------1192157470-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90488-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 12 04:11:22 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90488-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 71296 invoked by uid 1162); 12 Oct 2007 04:11:22 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 71274 invoked from network); 12 Oct 2007 04:11:21 -0000 From: XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com Message-ID: <d2a.1925aa3d.34404de6@aol.com> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 00:11:18 EDT To: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1192162278" X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 102 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} NRR Um weird attachmehts -------------------------------1192162278 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit embrace the opportunity to learn what they are trying teaching you (not just memorize answers so you can leave group early). I'm not being taught anything I didn't know before I entered high school. I'm not memorizing answers...I know them its called common sense. Don't sit around and shoot your mouth about people that have devoted their lives to building networks to provide essential support services. Networks that provide help, so people have places to seek help whenever confronted by such terifying and isolating issues such as suicide, addiction, depression, etc Well when the network with the county probation department got involved things really went downhill......If your so intrested in helping mentaly ill why haven't you talked to Stevie? I'm not sayin the counselors are making any money. I'm talking about places like Case Managment...which i'm not really sure what they are....A private company that makes a shit load of money to handle things like referals.....that when the person that the system was designed to help calls on the phone gets NOWHERE. When i had to goto the actual case management building that they just built I couldn't believe how many people it employed and wondered what they were doing.....The employees had to out number the number of mentally ill patients in the county. Anyways I read in the paper the county dropped case management for mental ilness and now just use them for metaly retarded.......If you have experience maybe you can explain to me what the hell is going on.....Because I can't figure it out.....Maybe Ohio has a better system....Oh yeah my visit to the Case Management building was when I was interviewed and assesed for acceptance into the TREATMENT COURT program....which is the baby of the worst asshole judge in the county. It isa bullshit program that is impossible to complete and get you a life sentence on paper....advertised as an alternative to jail....I think the program has like a 1% completion rate....Thank god I was removed from the program and sentenced to jail instead....After I completed the inteview process and started out patient individual and group therapies....they come back and say oh nevermind your charges are too bad for this program.....I'm actually quite pissed my lawyer encouraged me to take this program when almost every other lawyer tells people YOU DON'T WANT TREATMENT COURT. I guess it would have saved her going to my sentencing or doing whatever else she was paid $27,000 for. Treatment Court requires you to appear in front of the judge once a week take piss tests 3 times a week at the courthouse....and attend therapies at the treatment facility twice a week. At least 3 times per week travel 20+ miles to the city,while doing 90 in 90 that's a lot of gas when you have NO INCOME. Well get a job....Oh yeah i know all kinds of people that would love to employ a person that has to take at least 3 days off a week!!!! You try and tell me the system isn't corrupt and someone isn't getting rich off it!!!!! ALL THIS BECAUSE I HAD TO PLEAD 'NO CONTEST" TO A CRIME I DIDN'T EVEN COMMIT BECAUSE THE ONLY ALTERNATIVE WAS MUCH WORSE! You want to call me a whiner go ahead....I call it making others aware of how FUCKED UP and CORRUPT the system really is......I bet your a cop....The real problems didn't start in my treatment until the criminal Just-Us system got involved. I was a productive member of society before I was paid an un called for vist by the SWAT team.....The more I study the DSM-IV-TR the more I think my mental condition is a result of the post tramatic stress of the whole situation. So yes I'm sayin they made me this way....Was I self medicating a previous condition or is my condition a result of my drug use? Well I was a productive member of society when I was self medicating.....THEY DESTROYED MY LIFE AND CONTINUE TO KEEP ME DOWN!! Why? I NEVER HURT ANYONE OR DID ANYONE WRONG!! Maybe I should just come out of jail and bow down and become a consevative. Then they could point to me and say look the system really does work....FUCK THAT MY GOAL IS TO RAISE AWARNESS. I'm tryin to help with the ACLU right now...My fucking grammar and prison mouth obviously hinder my goals but I'm working on it...Sorry this came out on the list.....I'm done ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -------------------------------1192162278 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3DUS-ASCII"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16546" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY id=3Drole_body style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY:=20= Arial"=20 bottomMargin=3D7 leftMargin=3D7 topMargin=3D7 rightMargin=3D7><FONT id=3Drol= e_document=20 face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D2> <DIV>embrace  the opportunity to learn what they are trying teaching yo= u=20 (not just <BR>memorize  answers so you can leave group early). =20 <BR><BR><BR>I'm not being taught anything I didn't know before I entered hig= h=20 school.  <BR>I'm not memorizing answers...I know them its called common= =20 sense. <BR><BR>Don't sit around and shoot your mouth about people that have=20 devoted their  <BR>lives to building networks to provide essential supp= ort=20 services.  Networks  <BR>that provide help, so people have places=20= to=20 seek help whenever confronted by  <BR>such terifying and isolating issu= es=20 such as suicide, addiction, depression,  etc<BR><BR>Well when the netwo= rk=20 with the county probation department got involved  <BR>things really we= nt=20 downhill......If your so intrested in helping mentaly ill why  <BR>have= n't=20 you talked to Stevie? <BR><BR>I'm not sayin the counselors are making any mo= ney.=20 I'm talking about places  <BR>like Case Managment...which i'm not reall= y=20 sure what they are....A private  <BR>company that makes a shit load of=20 money to handle things like referals.....that  <BR>when the person that= the=20 system was designed to help calls on the phone gets  <BR>NOWHERE.<BR>Wh= en i=20 had to goto the actual case management building that they just built  <= BR>I=20 couldn't believe how many people it employed and wondered what they were&nbs= p;=20 <BR>doing.....The employees had to out number the number of mentally ill=20 patients in <BR>the county. Anyways I read in the paper the county dropped c= ase=20 management <BR>for  mental ilness and now just use them for metaly=20 retarded.......If you have  <BR>experience maybe you can explain to me=20= what=20 the hell is going on.....Because <BR>I  can't figure it out.....Maybe O= hio=20 has a better system....Oh yeah my visit <BR>to  the Case Management=20 building was when I was interviewed and assesed for  <BR>acceptance int= o=20 the TREATMENT COURT program....which is the baby of the worst  <BR>assh= ole=20 judge in the county. It isa bullshit program that is impossible to =20 <BR>complete and get you a life sentence on paper....advertised as an=20 alternative to <BR>jail....I think the program has like a 1% completion=20 rate....Thank god I was <BR>removed from the program and sentenced to jail=20 instead....After I completed <BR>the  inteview process and started out=20 patient individual and group <BR>therapies....they  come back and say o= h=20 nevermind your charges are too bad for this <BR>program.....I'm  actual= ly=20 quite pissed my lawyer encouraged me to take this program <BR>when almost&nb= sp;=20 every other lawyer tells people YOU DON'T WANT TREATMENT COURT. <BR>I guess=20= it=20 would  have saved her going to my sentencing or doing whatever else <BR= >she=20 was paid  $27,000 for. Treatment Court requires you to appear in front=20= of=20 <BR>the judge once a  week take piss tests 3 times a week at the=20 <BR>courthouse....and attend therapies at  the treatment facility twice= a=20 week. At least 3 times <BR>per week travel 20+ miles  to the city,while= =20 doing 90 in 90 that's a lot of gas <BR>when you have NO INCOME.  Well g= et a=20 job....Oh yeah i know all kinds of <BR>people that would love to employ a&nb= sp;=20 person that has to take at least 3 days off a <BR>week!!!! You try and tell=20 me  the system isn't corrupt and someone isn't <BR>getting rich off it!= !!!!=20 ALL THIS  BECAUSE I HAD TO PLEAD 'NO CONTEST" TO A CRIME I <BR>DIDN'T E= VEN=20 COMMIT BECAUSE THE  ONLY ALTERNATIVE WAS MUCH WORSE! You want to <BR>ca= ll=20 me a whiner go ahead....I call  it making others aware of how FUCKED UP= =20 <BR>and CORRUPT the system really is......I  bet your a cop....The real= =20 problems <BR>didn't start in my treatment until the  criminal Just-Us=20 system got involved. I <BR>was a productive member of society  before I= was=20 paid an un called for vist by <BR>the SWAT team.....The more I study  t= he=20 DSM-IV-TR the more I think my mental <BR>condition is a result of the post&n= bsp;=20 tramatic stress of the whole situation. So <BR>yes I'm sayin they made me=20 this  way....Was I self medicating a previous <BR>condition or is my=20 condition a result of  my drug use? Well I was a productive <BR>member=20= of=20 society when I was self  medicating.....THEY DESTROYED MY LIFE AND=20 <BR>CONTINUE TO KEEP ME DOWN!! Why? I  NEVER HURT ANYONE OR DID ANYONE=20 WRONG!! Maybe I <BR>should just come out of jail and  bow down and beco= me a=20 consevative. Then they <BR>could point to me and say look the  system=20 really does work....FUCK THAT MY <BR>GOAL IS TO RAISE AWARNESS. I'm tryin=20 to  help with the ACLU right now...My <BR>fucking grammar and prison mo= uth=20 obviously  hinder my goals but I'm working on <BR>it...Sorry this came=20= out=20 on the list.....I'm  done <BR></DIV></FONT><BR><BR><BR><DIV><FONT style= =3D"color: black; font: normal 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF;"><HR style=3D"MARGIN-T= OP: 10px">See what's new at <A title=3D"http://www.aol.com?NCID=3DAOLCMP0030= 0000001170" href=3D"http://www.aol.com?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001170" target= =3D"_blank">AOL.com</A> and <A title=3D"http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID= =3DAOLCMP00300000001169" href=3D"http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=3DAOLC= MP00300000001169" target=3D"_blank">Make AOL Your Homepage</A>.</FONT></DIV>= </BODY></HTML> -------------------------------1192162278-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90489-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 12 06:17:08 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90489-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 53194 invoked by uid 1162); 12 Oct 2007 06:17:08 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 53024 invoked from network); 12 Oct 2007 06:17:07 -0000 From: XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com Message-ID: <cb1.1e342ea0.34406b60@aol.com> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 02:17:04 EDT To: Majestic216@cs.com, pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1192169824" X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 102 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} NRR Um weird attachmehts -------------------------------1192169824 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/11/2007 9:48:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Majestic216@cs.com writes: If that's not enough for you, go to school, get an education, if you see deficiencies in the system, use you experience to get involved on a professional level and work to change them. Let me tell you something I was able to obtain a career I enjoyed without a degree with an income that exceeds that of a lot of people that I know with degrees......The Professional level isn't for me.....Sometimes knowledge destroys common sense and does nothing for intelligence. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -------------------------------1192169824 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3DUS-ASCII"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16546" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY id=3Drole_body style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY:=20= Arial"=20 bottomMargin=3D7 leftMargin=3D7 topMargin=3D7 rightMargin=3D7><FONT id=3Drol= e_document=20 face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D2> <DIV> <DIV>In a message dated 10/11/2007 9:48:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,=20 Majestic216@cs.com writes:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"><= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2> If=20 that's not enough for you, go to school, get an education, if you see=20 deficiencies in the system, use you experience to get involved on a=20 professional level and work to change them. </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV>Let me tell you something I was able to obtain a career I enjoyed witho= ut a=20 degree with an income that exceeds that of a lot of people that I know with=20 degrees......The Professional level isn't for me.....Sometimes knowledge=20 destroys common sense and does nothing for=20 intelligence.</DIV></FONT><BR><BR><BR><DIV><FONT style=3D"color: black; font= : normal 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF;"><HR style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 10px">See what's n= ew at <A title=3D"http://www.aol.com?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001170" href=3D"ht= tp://www.aol.com?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001170" target=3D"_blank">AOL.com</A>=20= and <A title=3D"http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001169"= href=3D"http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001169" target= =3D"_blank">Make AOL Your Homepage</A>.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> -------------------------------1192169824-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90490-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 12 06:28:52 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90490-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 58543 invoked by uid 1162); 12 Oct 2007 06:28:52 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 58524 invoked from network); 12 Oct 2007 06:28:52 -0000 From: XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com Message-ID: <d38.16d5e80d.34406e1c@aol.com> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 02:28:44 EDT To: Majestic216@cs.com, pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1192170524" X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 102 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} NRR Um weird attachmehts -------------------------------1192170524 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/11/2007 9:48:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Majestic216@cs.com writes: Don't sit around and shoot your mouth about people that have devoted thier lives to building networks to provide essential support services. Networks that provide help, so people have places to seek help whenever confronted by such terifying and isolating issues such as suicide, addiction, depression, etc Yeah I sometimes say things the politicaly incorect way. I usually try to correct myself....The mental health/criminal justice system is TERRIFYING and ISOLATING. You know what drives me insane....trying to figure out if I am insane and why. How can I have faith and trust the system that made me live like an animal for 9 months in a bathroom with another man....You want to see terror and isolation just visit a prison. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -------------------------------1192170524 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3DUS-ASCII"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16546" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY id=3Drole_body style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY:=20= Arial"=20 bottomMargin=3D7 leftMargin=3D7 topMargin=3D7 rightMargin=3D7><FONT id=3Drol= e_document=20 face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D2> <DIV> <DIV>In a message dated 10/11/2007 9:48:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,=20 Majestic216@cs.com writes:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"><= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>Don't=20 sit around and shoot your mouth about people that have devoted thier lives= to=20 building networks to provide essential support services.  Networks th= at=20 provide help, so people have places to seek help whenever confronted by su= ch=20 terifying and isolating issues such as suicide, addiction, depression,=20 etc</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV>Yeah I sometimes say things the politicaly incorect way. I usually try=20= to=20 correct myself....The mental health/criminal justice system is TERRIFYING an= d=20 ISOLATING. You know what drives me insane....trying to figure out if I am in= sane=20 and why. How can I have faith and trust the system that made me live like an= =20 animal for 9 months in a bathroom with another man....You want to see terror= and=20 isolation just visit a prison.</DIV></FONT><BR><BR><BR><DIV><FONT style=3D"c= olor: black; font: normal 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF;"><HR style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 1= 0px">See what's new at <A title=3D"http://www.aol.com?NCID=3DAOLCMP003000000= 01170" href=3D"http://www.aol.com?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001170" target=3D"_bl= ank">AOL.com</A> and <A title=3D"http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=3DAOLC= MP00300000001169" href=3D"http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300= 000001169" target=3D"_blank">Make AOL Your Homepage</A>.</FONT></DIV></BODY>= </HTML> -------------------------------1192170524-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90491-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 12 06:48:43 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90491-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 65511 invoked by uid 1162); 12 Oct 2007 06:48:43 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 65487 invoked from network); 12 Oct 2007 06:48:42 -0000 From: XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com Message-ID: <cab.1965f715.344072c6@aol.com> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 02:48:38 EDT To: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1192171718" X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 102 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: {pb-cle}peace out -------------------------------1192171718 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I really got to take some actions pb-cle-raves-subscribe@hyperreal.org ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -------------------------------1192171718 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3DUS-ASCII"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16546" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY id=3Drole_body style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY:=20= Arial"=20 bottomMargin=3D7 leftMargin=3D7 topMargin=3D7 rightMargin=3D7><FONT id=3Drol= e_document=20 face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D2> <DIV>I really got to take some actions </DIV> <DIV>pb-cle-raves-subscribe@hyperreal.org</DIV></FONT><BR><BR><BR><DIV><FONT= style=3D"color: black; font: normal 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF;"><HR style=3D"MA= RGIN-TOP: 10px">See what's new at <A title=3D"http://www.aol.com?NCID=3DAOLC= MP00300000001170" href=3D"http://www.aol.com?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001170" ta= rget=3D"_blank">AOL.com</A> and <A title=3D"http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?= NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001169" href=3D"http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID= =3DAOLCMP00300000001169" target=3D"_blank">Make AOL Your Homepage</A>.</FONT= ></DIV></BODY></HTML> -------------------------------1192171718-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90492-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 12 11:58:23 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90492-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27659 invoked by uid 1162); 12 Oct 2007 11:58:22 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27643 invoked from network); 12 Oct 2007 11:58:22 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=N5R6q9hjGQ5Vq7DNZhfk6cCpsSN/FlkBhmfO89iwQbgbEQcuXvcUUYn7beo2DsB/; h=Received:Date:To:Subject:Reply-To:From:Organization:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 07:58:19 -0400 To: XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com, Majestic216@cs.com, pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Reply-To: djentropy@mindspring.com From: "DJ Entropy" <djentropy@mindspring.com> Organization: America's #1 Hardcore DJ/Producer Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-15 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <cad.1b3814c6.34403b1e@aol.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <op.tz217hckvuw4b3@tripiithemoon> In-Reply-To: <cad.1b3814c6.34403b1e@aol.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.23 (Win32) X-ELNK-Trace: 6b6f10563bc8a19efcd34c2497a6c28d40683398e744b8a460a93e5f72dc474e9b572c51a40504603ca473d225a0f487350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 24.233.110.70 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} NRR Um weird attachmehts Maybe you should stop playing a victim and take some responsibility for yourself and go do something productive... On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 22:51:10 -0400, <XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com> wrote: > I never get any answers about my treatment.I have sat down with someone > before and went over a treatment plan and agreed and signed it. The last > 2 weeks > someone is tryin to pull some sort of fast one on me...They have twice > tried > to get me to sign a new treatment plan without reading it. I already > signed a > treatment plan...Oh this is nothing its no big deal....Well it is no big > deal > than i guess its no nig deal if i don't sign it. Oh we'll make you a > copy....Ok I would like a copy to read before I sign it....sure no > problem.....Had 2 > hours to goto a copy machine and bring it back......A week later tried > the > same thing with the same results. I can't get any answer about my > treatment....Questions about my treatment at another facilty got me > discharged with a > referal....Well I had no clue what this meant and ended up with NO > treatment...I > dunno how things work in Ohio but you have to call case management and > make > every move through them....And i guess you are supposed to know this by > instinct...Actaully i think they fired case management now so I really > have no > clue what to do now......And noone tells you anything or answers your > questions....HELP MY ASS...I can't get an answer of how I went from > seeing a doctor to > seeing a physcians assistant....I'd just as well see the real doctor I > have > been seeing the last 3 years. You get what they force on you and that's > all. > > > > ************************************** See what's new at > http://www.aol.com -- --------------- DJ Entropy America's #1 Hardcore DJ/producer http://www.djentropy.com http://livejournal.com/users/djentropy http://www.myspace.com/djentropy "Education is useless without God and the Bible." - Noah Webster -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90493-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 12 12:02:06 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90493-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28942 invoked by uid 1162); 12 Oct 2007 12:02:05 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28926 invoked from network); 12 Oct 2007 12:02:05 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=qU280bUng7UGj4LtqkKf2SGazadqENzBvH8+pza/wiY=; b=Zbe6ytrF9M/hs52ZdnST6yeuPUAGaPQqlhvodX32yk1MWVQ3gdeQ60PaaSB48T0w7d7LT/8e3zi6MAZOmNszZ/oeI6UN+HKKrfs41WN1mz0fuDphHliBV3xlmNTlXT1+fDdh36bOdrcWPJBffNKTS7mO/HXNMjwe7q8BmBfbOe4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=LmXnJO74NI/+P0WIEk1t2KDUkKSUqqIt2lUy6Us7Ap/BTTPq+O5BHDePUO55gvL+DswNB0OJJ4Y6OAy5ohSOx3jGOtAq/rqlufLkkxZr4wa1seYTqnbwieKqsL8vTUPd6bduLWWOncGfG1UVWZO36TS/CRGQBqjiGjI8XT8iBlY= Message-ID: <e23444c80710120502h10d54390rba11d1f911be102e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 08:02:04 -0400 From: "Ed Rodgers" <ed.rodgers@gmail.com> To: djentropy@mindspring.com Cc: XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com, Majestic216@cs.com, pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <op.tz217hckvuw4b3@tripiithemoon> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_24250_19078466.1192190524772" References: <cad.1b3814c6.34403b1e@aol.com> <op.tz217hckvuw4b3@tripiithemoon> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} NRR Um weird attachmehts ------=_Part_24250_19078466.1192190524772 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline spoken like a true Christian. On 10/12/07, DJ Entropy <djentropy@mindspring.com> wrote: > > Maybe you should stop playing a victim and take some responsibility for > yourself and go do something productive... > > > > > On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 22:51:10 -0400, <XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com> wrote: > > > I never get any answers about my treatment.I have sat down with someone > > before and went over a treatment plan and agreed and signed it. The last > > 2 weeks > > someone is tryin to pull some sort of fast one on me...They have twice > > tried > > to get me to sign a new treatment plan without reading it. I already > > signed a > > treatment plan...Oh this is nothing its no big deal....Well it is no big > > deal > > than i guess its no nig deal if i don't sign it. Oh we'll make you a > > copy....Ok I would like a copy to read before I sign it....sure no > > problem.....Had 2 > > hours to goto a copy machine and bring it back......A week later tried > > the > > same thing with the same results. I can't get any answer about my > > treatment....Questions about my treatment at another facilty got me > > discharged with a > > referal....Well I had no clue what this meant and ended up with NO > > treatment...I > > dunno how things work in Ohio but you have to call case management and > > make > > every move through them....And i guess you are supposed to know this by > > instinct...Actaully i think they fired case management now so I really > > have no > > clue what to do now......And noone tells you anything or answers your > > questions....HELP MY ASS...I can't get an answer of how I went from > > seeing a doctor to > > seeing a physcians assistant....I'd just as well see the real doctor I > > have > > been seeing the last 3 years. You get what they force on you and that's > > all. > > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's new at > > http://www.aol.com > > > > -- > --------------- > DJ Entropy > America's #1 Hardcore DJ/producer > http://www.djentropy.com > http://livejournal.com/users/djentropy > http://www.myspace.com/djentropy > > "Education is useless without God and the Bible." - Noah Webster > > -- > you fucked polka royalty? > did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? > > ------=_Part_24250_19078466.1192190524772 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline spoken like a true Christian.<br><br> <div><span class="gmail_quote">On 10/12/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">DJ Entropy</b> <<a href="mailto:djentropy@mindspring.com">djentropy@mindspring.com</a>> wrote:</span> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Maybe you should stop playing a victim and take some responsibility for<br>yourself and go do something productive... <br><br><br><br><br>On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 22:51:10 -0400, <<a href="mailto:XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com">XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com</a>> wrote:<br><br>> I never get any answers about my treatment.I have sat down with someone <br>> before and went over a treatment plan and agreed and signed it. The last<br>> 2 weeks<br>> someone is tryin to pull some sort of fast one on me...They have twice<br>> tried<br>> to  get me to sign a new treatment plan without reading it. I already <br>> signed a<br>> treatment plan...Oh this is nothing its no big deal....Well it is no big<br>> deal<br>>  than i guess its no nig deal if i don't sign it. Oh we'll make you a<br>> copy....Ok  I would like a copy to read before I sign it....sure no <br>> problem.....Had 2<br>> hours  to goto a copy machine and bring it back......A week later tried<br>> the<br>> same thing  with the same results. I can't get any answer about my<br>> treatment....Questions  about my treatment at another facilty got me <br>> discharged with a<br>> referal....Well I  had no clue what this meant and ended up with NO<br>> treatment...I<br>> dunno how things  work in Ohio but you have to call case management and<br>> make<br> > every move through  them....And i guess you are supposed to know this by<br>> instinct...Actaully i think  they fired case management now so I really<br>> have no<br>> clue what to do now......And  noone tells you anything or answers your <br>> questions....HELP MY ASS...I can't get  an answer of how I went from<br>> seeing a doctor to<br>> seeing a physcians  assistant....I'd just as well see the real doctor I<br>> have<br>> been seeing the last 3  years. You get what they force on you and that's <br>> all.<br>><br>><br>><br>> ************************************** See what's new at<br>> <a href="http://www.aol.com">http://www.aol.com</a><br><br><br><br>--<br>---------------<br>DJ Entropy<br> America's #1 Hardcore DJ/producer<br><a href="http://www.djentropy.com">http://www.djentropy.com</a><br><a href="http://livejournal.com/users/djentropy">http://livejournal.com/users/djentropy</a><br><a href="http://www.myspace.com/djentropy"> http://www.myspace.com/djentropy</a><br><br>"Education is useless without God and the Bible." - Noah Webster<br><br>--<br>you fucked polka royalty?<br>did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? <br><br></blockquote></div><br> ------=_Part_24250_19078466.1192190524772-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90494-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 12 14:17:18 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90494-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5047 invoked by uid 1162); 12 Oct 2007 14:17:17 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5031 invoked from network); 12 Oct 2007 14:17:17 -0000 Message-ID: <470F81E2.8020407@vrillusions.com> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 10:17:06 -0400 From: Todd <vr@vrillusions.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com CC: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org References: <d38.16d5e80d.34406e1c@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <d38.16d5e80d.34406e1c@aol.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.3 OpenPGP: id=BC90230C Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms010107040506090907050104" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} NRR Um weird attachmehts --------------ms010107040506090907050104 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com wrote: > ... You know what drives me insane....trying to > figure out if I am insane and why... I won't bore people with details, but I have some issues of my own and I've questioned the whole "what is normal" thing. I quite frankly have no idea what being normal is like because I've been messed in the head for so long. I can assume that not feeling like crap for no apparent reason 24/7 IS NOT normal, but I don't know what is normal. I can just assume that however I'm feeling now is more normal than how I was before. But that's really it. Or you can look at the great quote "I'm normal, it's the rest of the world that's insane" -- Todd http://www.vrillusions.com/ My PGP Key ID: 0xBC90230C --------------ms010107040506090907050104 Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIH/zCC AlowggHDoAMCAQICEBnOaT56+GercjR4qQNaMZAwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwYjELMAkGA1UE BhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMT I1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBMB4XDTA3MDEyMDA4MDA0NVoX DTA4MDEyMDA4MDA0NVowRDEfMB0GA1UEAxMWVGhhd3RlIEZyZWVtYWlsIE1lbWJlcjEhMB8G CSqGSIb3DQEJARYSdnJAdnJpbGx1c2lvbnMuY29tMIGfMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4GNADCB iQKBgQCyBZROBWIG+wjAOm7lXFoJTWKgK4ut4va3lZlJMqgsSH5pC/OLsUSsNvEgMxpCiUx7 7Yk0vb0mYusyDlbJDhHQpV5WoFQgZS/pwr9hgXFK7mJkY9PVSJVnL+Et4Lofykhgl13o93cI dkeBJwlPEYuY09/RP5aB21BdQBp9QXNrNwIDAQABoy8wLTAdBgNVHREEFjAUgRJ2ckB2cmls bHVzaW9ucy5jb20wDAYDVR0TAQH/BAIwADANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQUFAAOBgQCuGaGmCWu6CvwW D56MskhSRX5fnAdaOczha1GrRfzLkMtUQ4rmln7po8zw6crLp1qQBKZZnQIOmsOBmtoeDn06 MQwRW3EloyAd1WSg1fxOm+yJZZ9o/q2xJiont1enFAwHChJQtr/VLYwfpDTkc9Uod0275ppA RI3ffa3rjGe6ADCCAlowggHDoAMCAQICEBnOaT56+GercjR4qQNaMZAwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEF BQAwYjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0 ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBMB4XDTA3 MDEyMDA4MDA0NVoXDTA4MDEyMDA4MDA0NVowRDEfMB0GA1UEAxMWVGhhd3RlIEZyZWVtYWls IE1lbWJlcjEhMB8GCSqGSIb3DQEJARYSdnJAdnJpbGx1c2lvbnMuY29tMIGfMA0GCSqGSIb3 DQEBAQUAA4GNADCBiQKBgQCyBZROBWIG+wjAOm7lXFoJTWKgK4ut4va3lZlJMqgsSH5pC/OL sUSsNvEgMxpCiUx77Yk0vb0mYusyDlbJDhHQpV5WoFQgZS/pwr9hgXFK7mJkY9PVSJVnL+Et 4Lofykhgl13o93cIdkeBJwlPEYuY09/RP5aB21BdQBp9QXNrNwIDAQABoy8wLTAdBgNVHREE FjAUgRJ2ckB2cmlsbHVzaW9ucy5jb20wDAYDVR0TAQH/BAIwADANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQUFAAOB gQCuGaGmCWu6CvwWD56MskhSRX5fnAdaOczha1GrRfzLkMtUQ4rmln7po8zw6crLp1qQBKZZ nQIOmsOBmtoeDn06MQwRW3EloyAd1WSg1fxOm+yJZZ9o/q2xJiont1enFAwHChJQtr/VLYwf pDTkc9Uod0275ppARI3ffa3rjGe6ADCCAz8wggKooAMCAQICAQ0wDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAw gdExCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMRUwEwYDVQQIEwxXZXN0ZXJuIENhcGUxEjAQBgNVBAcTCUNhcGUg VG93bjEaMBgGA1UEChMRVGhhd3RlIENvbnN1bHRpbmcxKDAmBgNVBAsTH0NlcnRpZmljYXRp b24gU2VydmljZXMgRGl2aXNpb24xJDAiBgNVBAMTG1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFp bCBDQTErMCkGCSqGSIb3DQEJARYccGVyc29uYWwtZnJlZW1haWxAdGhhd3RlLmNvbTAeFw0w MzA3MTcwMDAwMDBaFw0xMzA3MTYyMzU5NTlaMGIxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMSUwIwYDVQQKExxU aGF3dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZyAoUHR5KSBMdGQuMSwwKgYDVQQDEyNUaGF3dGUgUGVyc29uYWwg RnJlZW1haWwgSXNzdWluZyBDQTCBnzANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAAOBjQAwgYkCgYEAxKY8VXNV +065yplaHmjAdQRwnd/p/6Me7L3N9VvyGna9fww6YfK/Uc4B1OVQCjDXAmNaLIkVcI7dyfAr hVqqP3FWy688Cwfn8R+RNiQqE88r1fOCdz0Dviv+uxg+B79AgAJk16emu59l0cUqVIUPSAR/ p7bRPGEEQB5kGXJgt/sCAwEAAaOBlDCBkTASBgNVHRMBAf8ECDAGAQH/AgEAMEMGA1UdHwQ8 MDowOKA2oDSGMmh0dHA6Ly9jcmwudGhhd3RlLmNvbS9UaGF3dGVQZXJzb25hbEZyZWVtYWls Q0EuY3JsMAsGA1UdDwQEAwIBBjApBgNVHREEIjAgpB4wHDEaMBgGA1UEAxMRUHJpdmF0ZUxh YmVsMi0xMzgwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQADgYEASIzRUIPqCy7MDaNmrGcPf6+svsIXoUOWlJ1/ TCG4+DYfqi2fNi/A9BxQIJNwPP2t4WFiw9k6GX6EsZkbAMUaC4J0niVQlGLH2ydxVyWN3amc OY6MIE9lX5Xa9/eH1sYITq726jTlEBpbNU1341YheILcIRk13iSx0x1G/11fZU8xggLjMIIC 3wIBATB2MGIxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMSUwIwYDVQQKExxUaGF3dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZyAoUHR5 KSBMdGQuMSwwKgYDVQQDEyNUaGF3dGUgUGVyc29uYWwgRnJlZW1haWwgSXNzdWluZyBDQQIQ Gc5pPnr4Z6tyNHipA1oxkDAJBgUrDgMCGgUAoIIBwzAYBgkqhkiG9w0BCQMxCwYJKoZIhvcN AQcBMBwGCSqGSIb3DQEJBTEPFw0wNzEwMTIxNDE3MDZaMCMGCSqGSIb3DQEJBDEWBBRtiPRc reSstlEMs1Gq1icyKTK5wTBSBgkqhkiG9w0BCQ8xRTBDMAoGCCqGSIb3DQMHMA4GCCqGSIb3 DQMCAgIAgDANBggqhkiG9w0DAgIBQDAHBgUrDgMCBzANBggqhkiG9w0DAgIBKDCBhQYJKwYB BAGCNxAEMXgwdjBiMQswCQYDVQQGEwJaQTElMCMGA1UEChMcVGhhd3RlIENvbnN1bHRpbmcg KFB0eSkgTHRkLjEsMCoGA1UEAxMjVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVtYWlsIElzc3Vpbmcg Q0ECEBnOaT56+GercjR4qQNaMZAwgYcGCyqGSIb3DQEJEAILMXigdjBiMQswCQYDVQQGEwJa QTElMCMGA1UEChMcVGhhd3RlIENvbnN1bHRpbmcgKFB0eSkgTHRkLjEsMCoGA1UEAxMjVGhh d3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVtYWlsIElzc3VpbmcgQ0ECEBnOaT56+GercjR4qQNaMZAwDQYJ KoZIhvcNAQEBBQAEgYBqrDMAToB3vsU5GwbFvdc5+zEiMuhle/mE+Q0CL6AioEM/JQK4M3hx qZYRbT7S3bTqgtPkxIsqGdQctmuqv5yKp3145El6ay3VWelB3YCV5vX+H2oLbWOhZKVtQ7jZ femaYTtrtTlLZmB4dnkZpY1Z/H/gPZ2l5Ug0m60QUbUeWQAAAAAAAA== --------------ms010107040506090907050104-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90495-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 12 14:23:17 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90495-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8880 invoked by uid 1162); 12 Oct 2007 14:23:16 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8860 invoked from network); 12 Oct 2007 14:23:16 -0000 Message-ID: <470F834B.1040709@vrillusions.com> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 10:23:07 -0400 From: Todd <vr@vrillusions.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: peebeecle <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> References: <4071557a0710092248r1375642as2cef0371b6b93edc@mail.gmail.com> <470D12F7.5060308@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <470D12F7.5060308@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.3 OpenPGP: id=BC90230C Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms020605060000080501050408" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} Um weird attachmehts --------------ms020605060000080501050408 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yeah, i'm all legit like that. On other lists I notice those attachments but not on this list. But yeah you may see an attachment that looks like a bunch of jibba jabba, that's s/mime encrypting the message and saying "this message was signed by Todd and has not been altered in transport". I debated defaulting PGP signing messages but the problem with that is instead of the garbage being a separate attachment that most mail clients can read, it would put a little garbage at the top of the email and a small block at the bottom. If your mail program is setup to handle them (by default I can't think of any that are without the need of some extension or plugin) then you don't see them, but the other 99% of the people do. At least with S/MIME it's the other way around. And even then it's usually only on mailing lists like this that strip out attachments or does other weird things to them. I keep meaning to setup a "don't sign messages to the list" rule but never get around to setting it up on like the 2 computers I check my mail from. Besides why would I ever want to be legally bound by what I babble about on a list that goes to a few hundred people? :) trout wrote: > todd uses a digital signature, its probably one of those files. > > > Kerri Smith wrote: >> I don't know if anyone else is getting these. but I seem to be getting >> solme strange attachments with emails with the list lately.... of >> course I don't open them on my pc, but on my mac they are invalid. >> anyone else get these alien messages? >> >> On 10/9/07, Todd <vr@vrillusions.com> wrote: >> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iARDJt2KCXk >>> >>> Hasn't posted anything for a while but figured a lot of people seemed to >>> like it last time it was mentioned. He's the guy that's made a few >>> songs and records him "making" it "live". A lot of detroit techno type >>> stuff and this one is no different >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Todd >>> http://www.vrillusions.com/ >>> My PGP Key ID: 0xBC90230C >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > -- > you fucked polka royalty? > did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? > -- Todd http://www.vrillusions.com/ My PGP Key ID: 0xBC90230C --------------ms020605060000080501050408 Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIH/zCC AlowggHDoAMCAQICEBnOaT56+GercjR4qQNaMZAwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwYjELMAkGA1UE BhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMT I1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBMB4XDTA3MDEyMDA4MDA0NVoX DTA4MDEyMDA4MDA0NVowRDEfMB0GA1UEAxMWVGhhd3RlIEZyZWVtYWlsIE1lbWJlcjEhMB8G CSqGSIb3DQEJARYSdnJAdnJpbGx1c2lvbnMuY29tMIGfMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4GNADCB iQKBgQCyBZROBWIG+wjAOm7lXFoJTWKgK4ut4va3lZlJMqgsSH5pC/OLsUSsNvEgMxpCiUx7 7Yk0vb0mYusyDlbJDhHQpV5WoFQgZS/pwr9hgXFK7mJkY9PVSJVnL+Et4Lofykhgl13o93cI dkeBJwlPEYuY09/RP5aB21BdQBp9QXNrNwIDAQABoy8wLTAdBgNVHREEFjAUgRJ2ckB2cmls bHVzaW9ucy5jb20wDAYDVR0TAQH/BAIwADANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQUFAAOBgQCuGaGmCWu6CvwW D56MskhSRX5fnAdaOczha1GrRfzLkMtUQ4rmln7po8zw6crLp1qQBKZZnQIOmsOBmtoeDn06 MQwRW3EloyAd1WSg1fxOm+yJZZ9o/q2xJiont1enFAwHChJQtr/VLYwfpDTkc9Uod0275ppA RI3ffa3rjGe6ADCCAlowggHDoAMCAQICEBnOaT56+GercjR4qQNaMZAwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEF BQAwYjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0 ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBMB4XDTA3 MDEyMDA4MDA0NVoXDTA4MDEyMDA4MDA0NVowRDEfMB0GA1UEAxMWVGhhd3RlIEZyZWVtYWls IE1lbWJlcjEhMB8GCSqGSIb3DQEJARYSdnJAdnJpbGx1c2lvbnMuY29tMIGfMA0GCSqGSIb3 DQEBAQUAA4GNADCBiQKBgQCyBZROBWIG+wjAOm7lXFoJTWKgK4ut4va3lZlJMqgsSH5pC/OL sUSsNvEgMxpCiUx77Yk0vb0mYusyDlbJDhHQpV5WoFQgZS/pwr9hgXFK7mJkY9PVSJVnL+Et 4Lofykhgl13o93cIdkeBJwlPEYuY09/RP5aB21BdQBp9QXNrNwIDAQABoy8wLTAdBgNVHREE FjAUgRJ2ckB2cmlsbHVzaW9ucy5jb20wDAYDVR0TAQH/BAIwADANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQUFAAOB gQCuGaGmCWu6CvwWD56MskhSRX5fnAdaOczha1GrRfzLkMtUQ4rmln7po8zw6crLp1qQBKZZ nQIOmsOBmtoeDn06MQwRW3EloyAd1WSg1fxOm+yJZZ9o/q2xJiont1enFAwHChJQtr/VLYwf pDTkc9Uod0275ppARI3ffa3rjGe6ADCCAz8wggKooAMCAQICAQ0wDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAw gdExCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMRUwEwYDVQQIEwxXZXN0ZXJuIENhcGUxEjAQBgNVBAcTCUNhcGUg VG93bjEaMBgGA1UEChMRVGhhd3RlIENvbnN1bHRpbmcxKDAmBgNVBAsTH0NlcnRpZmljYXRp b24gU2VydmljZXMgRGl2aXNpb24xJDAiBgNVBAMTG1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFp bCBDQTErMCkGCSqGSIb3DQEJARYccGVyc29uYWwtZnJlZW1haWxAdGhhd3RlLmNvbTAeFw0w MzA3MTcwMDAwMDBaFw0xMzA3MTYyMzU5NTlaMGIxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMSUwIwYDVQQKExxU aGF3dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZyAoUHR5KSBMdGQuMSwwKgYDVQQDEyNUaGF3dGUgUGVyc29uYWwg RnJlZW1haWwgSXNzdWluZyBDQTCBnzANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAAOBjQAwgYkCgYEAxKY8VXNV +065yplaHmjAdQRwnd/p/6Me7L3N9VvyGna9fww6YfK/Uc4B1OVQCjDXAmNaLIkVcI7dyfAr hVqqP3FWy688Cwfn8R+RNiQqE88r1fOCdz0Dviv+uxg+B79AgAJk16emu59l0cUqVIUPSAR/ p7bRPGEEQB5kGXJgt/sCAwEAAaOBlDCBkTASBgNVHRMBAf8ECDAGAQH/AgEAMEMGA1UdHwQ8 MDowOKA2oDSGMmh0dHA6Ly9jcmwudGhhd3RlLmNvbS9UaGF3dGVQZXJzb25hbEZyZWVtYWls Q0EuY3JsMAsGA1UdDwQEAwIBBjApBgNVHREEIjAgpB4wHDEaMBgGA1UEAxMRUHJpdmF0ZUxh YmVsMi0xMzgwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQADgYEASIzRUIPqCy7MDaNmrGcPf6+svsIXoUOWlJ1/ TCG4+DYfqi2fNi/A9BxQIJNwPP2t4WFiw9k6GX6EsZkbAMUaC4J0niVQlGLH2ydxVyWN3amc OY6MIE9lX5Xa9/eH1sYITq726jTlEBpbNU1341YheILcIRk13iSx0x1G/11fZU8xggLjMIIC 3wIBATB2MGIxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMSUwIwYDVQQKExxUaGF3dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZyAoUHR5 KSBMdGQuMSwwKgYDVQQDEyNUaGF3dGUgUGVyc29uYWwgRnJlZW1haWwgSXNzdWluZyBDQQIQ Gc5pPnr4Z6tyNHipA1oxkDAJBgUrDgMCGgUAoIIBwzAYBgkqhkiG9w0BCQMxCwYJKoZIhvcN AQcBMBwGCSqGSIb3DQEJBTEPFw0wNzEwMTIxNDIzMDdaMCMGCSqGSIb3DQEJBDEWBBSnugov Is6GRdGEZyrqXKxFXy9T3DBSBgkqhkiG9w0BCQ8xRTBDMAoGCCqGSIb3DQMHMA4GCCqGSIb3 DQMCAgIAgDANBggqhkiG9w0DAgIBQDAHBgUrDgMCBzANBggqhkiG9w0DAgIBKDCBhQYJKwYB BAGCNxAEMXgwdjBiMQswCQYDVQQGEwJaQTElMCMGA1UEChMcVGhhd3RlIENvbnN1bHRpbmcg KFB0eSkgTHRkLjEsMCoGA1UEAxMjVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVtYWlsIElzc3Vpbmcg Q0ECEBnOaT56+GercjR4qQNaMZAwgYcGCyqGSIb3DQEJEAILMXigdjBiMQswCQYDVQQGEwJa QTElMCMGA1UEChMcVGhhd3RlIENvbnN1bHRpbmcgKFB0eSkgTHRkLjEsMCoGA1UEAxMjVGhh d3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVtYWlsIElzc3VpbmcgQ0ECEBnOaT56+GercjR4qQNaMZAwDQYJ KoZIhvcNAQEBBQAEgYBvZ1qUx2/zN845oSsS6r8mNvF2beQtlCTtqrvYcy416P+is2lqvDgB wJ4PoIvXleiUZwAVXuN2YGAJh6CO4uDpQbZOVRKGzGdHXA1cFqiDIlRQmbrt+c6pvc8tYERg 2yD1NiymhcpiStnR7dkNOhQMtqnnITwp83yVKKM70ddw+QAAAAAAAA== --------------ms020605060000080501050408-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90496-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 12 15:19:18 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90496-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 47779 invoked by uid 1162); 12 Oct 2007 15:19:17 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 47760 invoked from network); 12 Oct 2007 15:19:17 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=hid8vIASD5VHllMSI68hS3cHvi+95o7MjglMiMFfZZo=; b=CA6sRJf5xFg7WER2OTWawp7KWp5CDboX1mtWxw6m4cwUk5PuXgZbWoPX1+5l0KL7k4DH+anATKYWrGsLvy7CRkTEIL40CNwBmWOapo/7M6Bn3Sp1njPORkyjTem+AbOA5q1p0iSIksvR74nt4Qbbg/5+wpS0RJKCg4CY479MxYU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=T005ZN2ngOIq1luwfjhdFzSKqhKBsveM2sTi6nBxJRrCuLYdkTLU/Ig+/dUJyN1Sbs6YUjA/JrSmTUxZYVTKheuQBuWwIAodGUbT3FUcwKwf2LIWyLrHWaGMkPetuINegD/JgByYDjxTsSH2lEo1rnkfdOLh8fBWN8A7cAAXxwE= Message-ID: <8cf533f0710120819j55c86a3axa9c69455c37bf311@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 11:19:07 -0400 From: "Adam Ratana" <adam.ratana@gmail.com> To: Todd <vr@vrillusions.com> Cc: peebeecle <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> In-Reply-To: <470F834B.1040709@vrillusions.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <4071557a0710092248r1375642as2cef0371b6b93edc@mail.gmail.com> <470D12F7.5060308@gmail.com> <470F834B.1040709@vrillusions.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} Um weird attachmehts Yeah all that and the fact that you are appending a 3k file to every message you send! Come on PGP sigs are so ubergeek 90's.... :) On 10/12/07, Todd <vr@vrillusions.com> wrote: > Yeah, i'm all legit like that. On other lists I notice those > attachments but not on this list. But yeah you may see an attachment > that looks like a bunch of jibba jabba, that's s/mime encrypting the > message and saying "this message was signed by Todd and has not been > altered in transport". I debated defaulting PGP signing messages but > the problem with that is instead of the garbage being a separate > attachment that most mail clients can read, it would put a little > garbage at the top of the email and a small block at the bottom. If > your mail program is setup to handle them (by default I can't think of > any that are without the need of some extension or plugin) then you > don't see them, but the other 99% of the people do. At least with > S/MIME it's the other way around. And even then it's usually only on > mailing lists like this that strip out attachments or does other weird > things to them. > > I keep meaning to setup a "don't sign messages to the list" rule but > never get around to setting it up on like the 2 computers I check my > mail from. Besides why would I ever want to be legally bound by what I > babble about on a list that goes to a few hundred people? :) > > trout wrote: > > todd uses a digital signature, its probably one of those files. > > > > > > Kerri Smith wrote: > >> I don't know if anyone else is getting these. but I seem to be getting > >> solme strange attachments with emails with the list lately.... of > >> course I don't open them on my pc, but on my mac they are invalid. > >> anyone else get these alien messages? > >> > >> On 10/9/07, Todd <vr@vrillusions.com> wrote: > >> > >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iARDJt2KCXk > >>> > >>> Hasn't posted anything for a while but figured a lot of people seemed to > >>> like it last time it was mentioned. He's the guy that's made a few > >>> songs and records him "making" it "live". A lot of detroit techno type > >>> stuff and this one is no different > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Todd > >>> http://www.vrillusions.com/ > >>> My PGP Key ID: 0xBC90230C > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > you fucked polka royalty? > > did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? > > > > -- > Todd > http://www.vrillusions.com/ > My PGP Key ID: 0xBC90230C > > -- Adam Ratana adam.ratana@gmail.com -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90497-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 12 16:26:23 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90497-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 89021 invoked by uid 1162); 12 Oct 2007 16:26:23 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 89004 invoked from network); 12 Oct 2007 16:26:22 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=aYeXCilR75mCvYGyD0u6C2cRQmlqacRKXLlE0+Dk1jk=; b=pqfrkSQG5JtQMozHxYbV/8COdWmtJKxl/I0Fz2PyV3YcJ65HM56mgg2hgnbwSPoLIltaiwLwO3ZiS6Nbv8pIHvCK2Qoce1b0naHvkumGAIjtiY6gj/fLV8poMEcVK/CzbjIvVooWiVJuZK6ISllX91WGiPgNiv8jswOEZQ0AWv8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Lgqh+1G/I0jvXbMCnEAcnEFJbB/xtPMAF7awC4x0uhYblQ7RD53kbQ2QL/zk3I1hEiG6z1N6S3oWkLE/slQ4a8BHvsUY2fNi8E14yeoUstX9RB9Zj9MmQsdC1vFtVXCHvetUgkqpWqRCBcKWzNv0/ZligL2OkwNtsW70kq4h+6o= Message-ID: <4fdee3880710120926u2f56ccdfl701c4b16f77e0828@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 12:26:17 -0400 From: Randomseed <pswetz@gmail.com> To: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <1812635753281498618440@hp_d4650y> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_24224_6769928.1192206377458" References: <1812635753281498618440@hp_d4650y> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: {pb-cle} Fwd: Tek0001-Ranos (Andy James) NOW AVAILIBLE! ------=_Part_24224_6769928.1192206377458 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline [image: Active Image] Catalog#: Tek0001 Release Date: October 12 2007 Artist: Andy James<http://tekknow.experimedia.net/Web/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=15&Itemid=29> Title: *Ranos* Artwork: *Tek0001_artwork.jpg*<http://tekknow.experimedia.net/Tekknow_Releases/Tek0001/Tek0001_artwork.jpg> Full Release: *mp3 format*<http://tekknow.experimedia.net/Tekknow_Releases/Tek0001/Tek0001-Ranos.zip>(320KBS 33.3 MB) Donations: Soon! Tracklisting (right-click on mp3 and select "Save target as.." option to download individual tracks): MP3<http://tekknow.experimedia.net/Tekknow_Releases/Tek0001/Tek0001_a_ANDY_JAMES-%20RANOS.mp3> a: Ranos (18.3MB) MP3<http://tekknow.experimedia.net/Tekknow_Releases/Tek0001/Tek0001_b_ANDY_JAMES-33.3.mp3> b: 33.3 (17.8 MB) For our inaugural release we tapped Tek-Know original member Andy James for his latest and greatest. This cat has been pumping slamming peak hour techno for almost 10 years and has productions with Beretta music. This release is dominated by slamming kicks and bass interspersed with melodic synth pads to keep you body moving while them legs keep jackin. Andy's philosophy for production is simple and eloquent and can be summed up in four words....."Are you jackin it?" Yes Andy, we most certainly are! ------=_Part_24224_6769928.1192206377458 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline <span class="gmail_quote"></span> <div> <table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"> <tbody> <tr> <td valign="top" rowspan="7"><img height="150" alt="Active Image" src="http://tekknow.experimedia.net/Web/images/stories/tek0001_artwork.jpg" width="150"> </td> <td width="85">Catalog#:</td> <td width="225">Tek0001</td></tr> <tr> <td>Release Date:</td> <td>October 12 2007</td></tr> <tr> <td>Artist:</td> <td><a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://tekknow.experimedia.net/Web/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=15&Itemid=29" target="_blank">Andy James</a></td></tr> <tr> <td>Title:</td> <td><strong>Ranos</strong></td></tr> <tr> <td>Artwork:</td> <td><a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://tekknow.experimedia.net/Tekknow_Releases/Tek0001/Tek0001_artwork.jpg" target="_blank"><u><font color="#0000ff">Tek0001_artwork.jpg</font></u></a> </td></tr> <tr> <td>Full Release:</td> <td><a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://tekknow.experimedia.net/Tekknow_Releases/Tek0001/Tek0001-Ranos.zip" target="_blank"><u><font color="#0000ff">mp3 format</font></u></a> (320KBS  33.3 MB)</td></tr> <tr> <td>Donations:</td> <td>Soon!</td></tr></tbody></table><br>Tracklisting (right-click on mp3 and select "Save target as.." option to download individual tracks): <table border="0"> <tbody> <tr> <td><a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://tekknow.experimedia.net/Tekknow_Releases/Tek0001/Tek0001_a_ANDY_JAMES-%20RANOS.mp3" target="_blank">MP3</a></td> <td>a: Ranos (18.3MB)</td></tr> <tr> <td><a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://tekknow.experimedia.net/Tekknow_Releases/Tek0001/Tek0001_b_ANDY_JAMES-33.3.mp3" target="_blank">MP3</a></td> <td>b: 33.3 (17.8 MB)</td></tr></tbody></table> <p><br>For our inaugural release we tapped Tek-Know original member Andy James for his latest and greatest. This cat has been pumping slamming peak hour techno for almost 10 years and has productions with Beretta music. This release is dominated by slamming kicks and bass interspersed with melodic synth pads to keep you body moving while them legs keep jackin. Andy's philosophy for production is simple and eloquent and can be summed up in four words....."Are you jackin it?" </p> <p>Yes Andy, we most certainly are!</p></div> ------=_Part_24224_6769928.1192206377458-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90498-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 12 17:12:33 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90498-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18373 invoked by uid 1162); 12 Oct 2007 17:12:32 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18348 invoked from network); 12 Oct 2007 17:12:32 -0000 From: XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com Message-ID: <d39.16e3be9b.344104ec@aol.com> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 13:12:12 EDT To: ed.rodgers@gmail.com, djentropy@mindspring.com CC: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1192209132" X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 102 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} NRR Um weird attachmehts -------------------------------1192209132 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/12/2007 8:02:12 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ed.rodgers@gmail.com writes: Maybe you should stop playing a victim and take some responsibility for yourself and go do something productive... I am a victim of the war on drugs....thought you were to?....thought I unsubbbed...sent e-mail and tried it from webpage... ... CHRISTIANTY-The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree....yeah makes perfect sense What made me decide the bible was a worthless piece of shit? READING IT... God made it pretty clear by page 3 that he is the biggest asshole in the universe THE BIBLE - Because all the works of science cannot equal the wisdom of cattle sacrificing primitives who thought every animal species in the world lived within walking distance of Noah's house "I could prove my existence but than nobody would get to goto Hell" - God Bush was right! There were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. BIBLES and KORANS.. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -------------------------------1192209132 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3DUS-ASCII"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16546" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY id=3Drole_body style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY:=20= Arial"=20 bottomMargin=3D7 leftMargin=3D7 topMargin=3D7 rightMargin=3D7><FONT id=3Drol= e_document=20 face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D2> <DIV> <DIV>In a message dated 10/12/2007 8:02:12 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,=20 ed.rodgers@gmail.com writes:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"><= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>Maybe=20 you should stop playing a victim and take some responsibility for<BR>yours= elf=20 and go do something productive... </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV>I am a victim of the war on drugs....thought you were to?....thought I=20 unsubbbed...sent e-mail and tried it from webpage...</DIV> <DIV>...</DIV> <DIV>CHRISTIANTY-The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own fath= er=20 can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathical= ly=20 tell him you accept him as your master so he can remove an evil force from y= our=20 soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talk= ing=20 snake to eat from a magical tree....yeah makes perfect sense</DIV> <DIV>What made me decide the bible was a worthless piece of shit?  READ= ING=20 IT...</DIV> <DIV>God made it pretty clear by page 3 that he is the biggest asshole in th= e=20 universe</DIV> <DIV>THE BIBLE - Because all the works of science cannot equal the wisdom of= =20 cattle sacrificing primitives who thought every animal species in the world=20 lived within walking distance of Noah's house</DIV> <DIV>"I could prove my existence but than nobody would get to goto Hell" -=20 God</DIV> <DIV>Bush was right! There were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. 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Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 10:18:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Amanda von Schtupp <a_yesko@yahoo.com> To: "pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org" <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> In-Reply-To: <d39.16e3be9b.344104ec@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1476517076-1192209509=:63004" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <54568.63004.qm@web54003.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} NRR Um weird attachmehts --0-1476517076-1192209509=:63004 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dude, please don't unsub. If you do, I will not be able to laugh at hilarious shit like this on a semi-regular basis. Damn, I think this will be my new myspace "about me" section. LOL XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com wrote:...CHRISTIANTY-The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree....yeah makes perfect sense What made me decide the bible was a worthless piece of shit? READING IT... God made it pretty clear by page 3 that he is the biggest asshole in the universe THE BIBLE - Because all the works of science cannot equal the wisdom of cattle sacrificing primitives who thought every animal species in the world lived within walking distance of Noah's house "I could prove my existence but than nobody would get to goto Hell" - God Bush was right! There were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. BIBLES and KORANS.. --------------------------------- Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. --0-1476517076-1192209509=:63004 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dude, please don't unsub. If you do, I will not be able to laugh at hilarious shit like this on a semi-regular basis. <br><br>Damn, I think this will be my new myspace "about me" section. LOL<br><br><b><i>XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com</i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;">...CHRISTIANTY-The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree....yeah makes perfect sense<font id="role_document" color="#000000" face="Arial" size="2"> <div>What made me decide the bible was a worthless piece of shit?  READING IT...</div> <div>God made it pretty clear by page 3 that he is the biggest asshole in the universe</div> <div>THE BIBLE - Because all the works of science cannot equal the wisdom of cattle sacrificing primitives who thought every animal species in the world lived within walking distance of Noah's house</div> <div>"I could prove my existence but than nobody would get to goto Hell" - God</div> <div>Bush was right! There were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. BIBLES and KORANS..</div></font></blockquote><br><p> <hr size=1>Need a vacation? <a href="http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48256/*http://travel.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTFhN2hucjlpBF9TAzk3NDA3NTg5BHBvcwM1BHNlYwNncm91cHMEc2xrA2VtYWlsLW5jbQ--">Get great deals to amazing places </a>on Yahoo! Travel. --0-1476517076-1192209509=:63004-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90500-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 12 17:23:57 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90500-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24379 invoked by uid 1162); 12 Oct 2007 17:23:57 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24344 invoked from network); 12 Oct 2007 17:23:56 -0000 From: Gatsby9@aol.com Message-ID: <d28.1697286b.344107a5@aol.com> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 13:23:49 EDT To: a_yesko@yahoo.com, pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1192209829" X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5359 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} NRR Um weird attachmehts -------------------------------1192209829 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm with you Amanda, I've needed this paragraph all my life!! Dude, please don't unsub. If you do, I will not be able to laugh at hilarious shit like this on a semi-regular basis. Damn, I think this will be my new myspace "about me" section. LOL XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com wrote: ...CHRISTIANTY-The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree....yeah makes perfect sense What made me decide the bible was a worthless piece of shit? READING IT... God made it pretty clear by page 3 that he is the biggest asshole in the universe THE BIBLE - Because all the works of science cannot equal the wisdom of cattle sacrificing primitives who thought every animal species in the world lived within walking distance of Noah's house "I could prove my existence but than nobody would get to goto Hell" - God Bush was right! There were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. BIBLES and KORANS.. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -------------------------------1192209829 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3DUS-ASCII"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.3199" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY id=3Drole_body style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY:=20= Georgia"=20 bottomMargin=3D7 leftMargin=3D7 topMargin=3D7 rightMargin=3D7><FONT id=3Drol= e_document=20 face=3DGeorgia color=3D#000000 size=3D2> <DIV> <DIV><FONT style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000= 000=20 size=3D2><FONT face=3DGeorgia>I'm with you Amanda, I've needed this paragrap= h all my=20 life!!</FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000= 000=20 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000= 000=20 size=3D2>Dude, please don't unsub. If you do, I will not be able to laugh at= =20 hilarious shit like this on a semi-regular basis. <BR><BR>Damn, I think this= =20 will be my new myspace "about me" section.=20 LOL<BR><BR><B><I>XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com</I></B> wrote: </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"> <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dreplbq=20 style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255)=20= 2px solid">...CHRISTIANTY-The=20 belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you l= ive=20 forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him yo= u=20 accept him as your master so he can remove an evil force from your soul=20= that=20 is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking sn= ake=20 to eat from a magical tree....yeah makes perfect sense<FONT face=3DArial= =20 color=3D#000000 size=3D2>=20 <DIV>What made me decide the bible was a worthless piece of shit? =20 READING IT...</DIV> <DIV>God made it pretty clear by page 3 that he is the biggest asshole i= n=20 the universe</DIV> <DIV>THE BIBLE - Because all the works of science cannot equal the wisdo= m of=20 cattle sacrificing primitives who thought every animal species in the wo= rld=20 lived within walking distance of Noah's house</DIV> <DIV>"I could prove my existence but than nobody would get to goto Hell"= -=20 God</DIV> <DIV>Bush was right! There were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. BIB= LES=20 and KORANS..</DIV></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV></FONT><BR><BR><BR><DIV><FONT style=3D"color: black; font:=20= normal 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF;"><HR style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 10px">See what's new= at <A title=3D"http://www.aol.com?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001170" href=3D"http= ://www.aol.com?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001170" target=3D"_blank">AOL.com</A> an= d <A title=3D"http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001169" h= ref=3D"http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001169" target= =3D"_blank">Make AOL Your Homepage</A>.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> -------------------------------1192209829-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90501-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 12 17:52:24 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90501-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 40470 invoked by uid 1162); 12 Oct 2007 17:52:23 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 40449 invoked from network); 12 Oct 2007 17:52:23 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=mbro+bn7XVCOQZhXd4Px4/aIGbqKV6Phlm8Ug5f69hc=; b=n4yYKYWSm7vxC5yW+1pxTvJ0y+tfQQn61Gb13V34Ouo/9OhlPzxJm2MntqgYYMEIuZD6zD4EBWhstN//UnR5DpuGHLjN/xFzwwRVnHdH1y1ToM4O9vJZd4RFDCEo1D0Pp53+VpMFmc1oO14fAO3KcKDj87Prs36L071XxP86fRI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=JJlxe0NzzpqbyZdIAXizoLaT08TFbU38/I6lX7cIttW/UiayurAJqoJMETEEVrajCFhXZVY7jMcpi3CD8I8JzD4wXtFjTy40j2KoTTmsYbVFPbg+8iKTDMMVd7KaKEy6pkaE3mRQEEf2MAdV2Bb5WsfS/vZAdn5yFuzgHlpeJhI= Message-ID: <e23444c80710121052s29478fe9n650e4017fcedcbfb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 13:52:22 -0400 From: "Ed Rodgers" <ed.rodgers@gmail.com> To: "XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com" <XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com> Cc: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <d39.16e3be9b.344104ec@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_24791_14874403.1192211542634" References: <d39.16e3be9b.344104ec@aol.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} NRR Um weird attachmehts ------=_Part_24791_14874403.1192211542634 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline you should get that T-Shirt that says "Without ME it's just Aweso" On 10/12/07, XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com <XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com> wrote: > > In a message dated 10/12/2007 8:02:12 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > ed.rodgers@gmail.com writes: > > Maybe you should stop playing a victim and take some responsibility for > yourself and go do something productive... > > I am a victim of the war on drugs....thought you were to?....thought I > unsubbbed...sent e-mail and tried it from webpage... > ... > CHRISTIANTY-The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father > can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and > telepathically tell him you accept him as your master so he can remove an > evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman > was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree....yeah makes > perfect sense > What made me decide the bible was a worthless piece of shit? READING > IT... > God made it pretty clear by page 3 that he is the biggest asshole in the > universe > THE BIBLE - Because all the works of science cannot equal the wisdom of > cattle sacrificing primitives who thought every animal species in the world > lived within walking distance of Noah's house > "I could prove my existence but than nobody would get to goto Hell" - God > Bush was right! There were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. BIBLES and > KORANS.. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > See what's new at AOL.com <http://www.aol.com/?NCID=AOLCMP00300000001170>and Make > AOL Your Homepage<http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=AOLCMP00300000001169> > . > ------=_Part_24791_14874403.1192211542634 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline <div> </div> <div>you should get that T-Shirt that says "Without ME it's just Aweso"<br><br> </div> <div><span class="gmail_quote">On 10/12/07, <b class="gmail_sendername"><a href="mailto:XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com">XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com</a></b> <<a href="mailto:XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com">XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com</a> > wrote:</span> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid"> <div style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><font face="Arial" color="#000000" size="2"><span class="q"> <div> <div>In a message dated 10/12/2007 8:02:12 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:ed.rodgers@gmail.com" target="_blank">ed.rodgers@gmail.com</a> writes:</div> <blockquote style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face="Arial" color="#000000" size="2">Maybe you should stop playing a victim and take some responsibility for <br>yourself and go do something productive... </font></blockquote></div> <div></div></span> <div>I am a victim of the war on drugs....thought you were to?....thought I unsubbbed...sent e-mail and tried it from webpage...</div> <div>...</div> <div>CHRISTIANTY-The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree....yeah makes perfect sense </div> <div>What made me decide the bible was a worthless piece of shit?  READING IT...</div> <div>God made it pretty clear by page 3 that he is the biggest asshole in the universe</div> <div>THE BIBLE - Because all the works of science cannot equal the wisdom of cattle sacrificing primitives who thought every animal species in the world lived within walking distance of Noah's house</div> <div>"I could prove my existence but than nobody would get to goto Hell" - God</div> <div>Bush was right! There were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. BIBLES and KORANS..<br><br><br><br> </div></font><span class="q"><br><br><br> <div><font style="FONT: 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF; COLOR: black"> <hr style="MARGIN-TOP: 10px"> See what's new at <a title="http://www.aol.com?NCID=AOLCMP00300000001170" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://www.aol.com/?NCID=AOLCMP00300000001170" target="_blank">AOL.com</a> and <a title="http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=AOLCMP00300000001169" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=AOLCMP00300000001169" target="_blank"> Make AOL Your Homepage</a>.</font></div></span></div></blockquote></div><br> ------=_Part_24791_14874403.1192211542634-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90502-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 12 17:53:30 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90502-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 41309 invoked by uid 1162); 12 Oct 2007 17:53:30 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 41291 invoked from network); 12 Oct 2007 17:53:30 -0000 Message-ID: <470FB48F.8040907@vrillusions.com> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 13:53:19 -0400 From: Todd <vr@vrillusions.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com CC: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org References: <d39.16e3be9b.344104ec@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <d39.16e3be9b.344104ec@aol.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.3 OpenPGP: id=BC90230C Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms000209050209070102040805" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} NRR Um weird attachmehts --------------ms000209050209070102040805 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You good sir have earned 500 STPs for that. Heck, Give you another 500 since you probably don't know what it means anyway, probably a lot of people wouldn't on here. Good ol' days... XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 10/12/2007 8:02:12 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > ed.rodgers@gmail.com writes: > > Maybe you should stop playing a victim and take some responsibility for > yourself and go do something productive... > > I am a victim of the war on drugs....thought you were to?....thought I > unsubbbed...sent e-mail and tried it from webpage... > ... > CHRISTIANTY-The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own > father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and > telepathically tell him you accept him as your master so he can remove > an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a > rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical > tree....yeah makes perfect sense > What made me decide the bible was a worthless piece of shit? READING IT... > God made it pretty clear by page 3 that he is the biggest asshole in the > universe > THE BIBLE - Because all the works of science cannot equal the wisdom of > cattle sacrificing primitives who thought every animal species in the > world lived within walking distance of Noah's house > "I could prove my existence but than nobody would get to goto Hell" - God > Bush was right! There were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. 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Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 44602 invoked from network); 12 Oct 2007 17:59:09 -0000 From: XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com Message-ID: <d37.16e288ca.34410fe8@aol.com> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 13:59:04 EDT To: Majestic216@cs.com, pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1192211944" X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 102 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} NRR Um weird attachmehts -------------------------------1192211944 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/11/2007 9:48:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Majestic216@cs.com writes: If that's not enough for you, go to school, get an education, if you see deficiencies in the system, use you experience to get involved on a professional level and work to change them That's a lot to ask of a person that the system labels psychotic. Maybe you should listen to my complaints and change the system to better help the people its supposed to help. Isn't that your job and what you get paid for? I don't exactly know what your involvement is.Quit assuming the people in your system have any idea how it works and instead of teaching them to obey and take everything as gospel that you decide is in their best interest...Teach them how the system works and ask for their input and opinion when you are designing it. please un sub me....I will keep doin this till the end of time ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -------------------------------1192211944 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3DUS-ASCII"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16546" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY id=3Drole_body style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY:=20= Arial"=20 bottomMargin=3D7 leftMargin=3D7 topMargin=3D7 rightMargin=3D7><FONT id=3Drol= e_document=20 face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D2> <DIV> <DIV>In a message dated 10/11/2007 9:48:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,=20 Majestic216@cs.com writes:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"><= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2> If=20 that's not enough for you, go to school, get an education, if you see=20 deficiencies in the system, use you experience to get involved on a=20 professional level and work to change them</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV>That's a lot to ask of a person that the system labels psychotic. Maybe= you=20 should listen to my complaints and change the system to better help the peop= le=20 its supposed to help. Isn't that your job and what you get paid for? I don't= =20 exactly know what your involvement is.Quit assuming the people in your syste= m=20 have any idea how it works and instead of teaching them to obey and take=20 everything as gospel that you decide is in their best interest...Teach them=20= how=20 the system works and ask for their input and opinion when you are designing=20 it.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>please un sub me....I will keep doin this till the end of=20 time</DIV></FONT><BR><BR><BR><DIV><FONT style=3D"color: black; font: normal=20= 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF;"><HR style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 10px">See what's new at <A=20= title=3D"http://www.aol.com?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001170" href=3D"http://www.= aol.com?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001170" target=3D"_blank">AOL.com</A> and <A ti= tle=3D"http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001169" href=3D"= http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001169" target=3D"_blan= k">Make AOL Your Homepage</A>.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> -------------------------------1192211944-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90504-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 12 19:59:38 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90504-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22972 invoked by uid 1162); 12 Oct 2007 19:59:37 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22954 invoked from network); 12 Oct 2007 19:59:37 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=8o6zGioTQUztvzZpKHtfKTGaieYe7/VoUHxayKEdvps=; b=T+4zj4QETge92H/btDoYapSC5sTfEwOxON5eGoXPGKFacEJFptEpUgmwDV+gHgf3GJ/raBqtZU52lTWyGcNjSqD4vLrknYyW9QBwlcMyXxmggE6ujJ1/8UyZfwQxHwizHI2F28TCWb7lmM9L6laAaN37JMIb2lw/UudSyiKRW2Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=TiJZFRIuBBe3/AXs1YKeLAlu0FYCCp6DYOulo8b/UnnsZRI1iAadtb5t7kDi/dDi74t+93gm51YMGD3wOx6tYRyUW4AKiQjWlREjlL9/KQkEGiQOsd3gHvi1U4NbLVH/l/ZzhGhw83tcEzAFezPYRq01sko2OX4eIfCQGpLW4iI= Message-ID: <5a9dc0d60710121259s2de50cdfqd368c4ad7681af08@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:59:34 -0400 From: "Jeremy Bible" <experimedia@gmail.com> To: "PB CLE Raves" <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: {pb-cle} performing live on the radio tomorrow (FM & NET) Just wanted to let everyone know about our live radio performance tomorrow. I think many of you will enjoy it. Thanks. -jeremy spec.dev ( http://spec.dev.experimedia.net ) live on air Saturday October 13th 2007 6:30 pm Eastern Time (worldwide times below) If your in Cleveland dial your radios in to 91.1FM. Out of the area listen live online at http://www.wruw.org/ . experimental/ambient/minimal/microsound/noise Anyone that has followed our recent live performance history knows that every set is different and this one will be no exception. We are considering releaseing a series of live recordings from the past year illustrating our evolution from minimal techno through to more experimental sounds. Getting even deeper into microsound/ambient territory this set will be especially deep and probably mostly unsynchronized between our two machines. Then next Thursday the 18th catch us at The Grog Shop in Cleveland ( http://www.grogshop.gs ) w/Digitalism for what will be our last performance of the year before we hibernate into the studio. 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From pb-cle-raves-return-90505-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 12 22:46:59 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90505-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3806 invoked by uid 1162); 12 Oct 2007 22:46:59 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3787 invoked from network); 12 Oct 2007 22:46:58 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=eJ0wQZEcgoNAGRtedr76oTsMTeNkDF1Ucme/9vyJd/Q=; b=BsjlNO/6u13RiF5OhUYSOStd63NjRyXH/2su/ug/8SDwc7Si7L3oFT1o+Mq4J5nFT3eZGM80yY3fbIxpnKhYAocz2wO8Zr2XO1grcDPh8BCthGhGK+3J8U2e6HYj2oSxTqujODD8bfJaGT1wkNpD2TQ/on3RwwcRYLEN/3vl6X8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=cQz/SsNAwzqm17l3BtNkW+ZHjJnudfcPqylM+rrJPY11DaAmwSsAIVVqHrk4/EA1MCgq7+e+iS9qFBUM3PFcCiDt++4Fgz/Gb7h1du4Ijg/ajyZ/KHF4xjQCx9BkriUH1RfnDl5Y3c3l9nCHxf4dJ9uZ1+PM7DrkB0zzHm+U8Mw= Message-ID: <e23444c80710121546q4adcabbfsd0b74ced424a75fa@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 18:46:55 -0400 From: "Ed Rodgers" <ed.rodgers@gmail.com> To: "pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org" <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_25274_8433484.1192229215162" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: {pb-cle} butt machine ------=_Part_25274_8433484.1192229215162 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline anyone else watch weeds? from the end of this week's episode... just caught up on on-demand... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHlDfejCHkc&mode=related&search= great song. ------=_Part_25274_8433484.1192229215162 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline anyone else watch weeds?  <br><br>from the end of this week's episode... just caught up on on-demand...  <br><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHlDfejCHkc&mode=related&search=">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHlDfejCHkc&mode=related&search= </a><br><br>great song.<br> ------=_Part_25274_8433484.1192229215162-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90506-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 12 23:33:08 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90506-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 32692 invoked by uid 1162); 12 Oct 2007 23:33:07 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 32675 invoked from network); 12 Oct 2007 23:33:06 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=dDayqa9YWGmDdq1hAQrQOK+RyGIKp/Favhxc7VyxlPsGUDG9YLunG5c+FsH+RMHe; h=Received:To:Subject:Reply-To:From:Organization:Cc:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Date:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; To: "Ed Rodgers" <ed.rodgers@gmail.com> Reply-To: djentropy@mindspring.com From: "DJ Entropy" <djentropy@mindspring.com> Organization: America's #1 Hardcore DJ/Producer Cc: XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com, Majestic216@cs.com, pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-15 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <cad.1b3814c6.34403b1e@aol.com> <op.tz217hckvuw4b3@tripiithemoon> <e23444c80710120502h10d54390rba11d1f911be102e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 19:33:02 -0400 Message-ID: <op.tz3ydce0vuw4b3@tripiithemoon> In-Reply-To: <e23444c80710120502h10d54390rba11d1f911be102e@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.23 (Win32) X-ELNK-Trace: 6b6f10563bc8a19efcd34c2497a6c28d40683398e744b8a46c79a0cfdfded04a4f087aff1100fa1a666fa475841a1c7a350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 24.233.110.70 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} NRR Um weird attachmehts On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 08:02:04 -0400, Ed Rodgers <ed.rodgers@gmail.com> wrote: > spoken like a true Christian. Taking responsibilities for one's actions? Yes. > On 10/12/07, DJ Entropy <djentropy@mindspring.com> wrote: >> >> Maybe you should stop playing a victim and take some responsibility for >> yourself and go do something productive... >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 22:51:10 -0400, <XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com> wrote: >> >> > I never get any answers about my treatment.I have sat down with >> someone >> > before and went over a treatment plan and agreed and signed it. The >> last >> > 2 weeks >> > someone is tryin to pull some sort of fast one on me...They have twice >> > tried >> > to get me to sign a new treatment plan without reading it. I already >> > signed a >> > treatment plan...Oh this is nothing its no big deal....Well it is no >> big >> > deal >> > than i guess its no nig deal if i don't sign it. Oh we'll make you a >> > copy....Ok I would like a copy to read before I sign it....sure no >> > problem.....Had 2 >> > hours to goto a copy machine and bring it back......A week later >> tried >> > the >> > same thing with the same results. I can't get any answer about my >> > treatment....Questions about my treatment at another facilty got me >> > discharged with a >> > referal....Well I had no clue what this meant and ended up with NO >> > treatment...I >> > dunno how things work in Ohio but you have to call case management >> and >> > make >> > every move through them....And i guess you are supposed to know this >> by >> > instinct...Actaully i think they fired case management now so I >> really >> > have no >> > clue what to do now......And noone tells you anything or answers your >> > questions....HELP MY ASS...I can't get an answer of how I went from >> > seeing a doctor to >> > seeing a physcians assistant....I'd just as well see the real doctor >> I >> > have >> > been seeing the last 3 years. You get what they force on you and >> that's >> > all. >> > >> > >> > >> > ************************************** See what's new at >> > http://www.aol.com >> >> >> >> -- >> --------------- >> DJ Entropy >> America's #1 Hardcore DJ/producer >> http://www.djentropy.com >> http://livejournal.com/users/djentropy >> http://www.myspace.com/djentropy >> >> "Education is useless without God and the Bible." - Noah Webster >> >> -- >> you fucked polka royalty? >> did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? >> >> -- --------------- DJ Entropy America's #1 Hardcore DJ/producer http://www.djentropy.com http://livejournal.com/users/djentropy http://www.myspace.com/djentropy "Education is useless without God and the Bible." - Noah Webster -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90507-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 12 23:35:56 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90507-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 35306 invoked by uid 1162); 12 Oct 2007 23:35:55 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 35287 invoked from network); 12 Oct 2007 23:35:55 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=r6vzKC9iihDcki5+fjzbn3aNBNzpzYlnuQPOJGfoN4263LqKR9ZvlBBSe95goEJS; h=Received:Date:To:Subject:Reply-To:From:Organization:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 19:35:52 -0400 To: XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com, Majestic216@cs.com, pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Reply-To: djentropy@mindspring.com From: "DJ Entropy" <djentropy@mindspring.com> Organization: America's #1 Hardcore DJ/Producer Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-15 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <d37.16e288ca.34410fe8@aol.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <op.tz3yh2rlvuw4b3@tripiithemoon> In-Reply-To: <d37.16e288ca.34410fe8@aol.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.23 (Win32) X-ELNK-Trace: 6b6f10563bc8a19efcd34c2497a6c28d40683398e744b8a4fdc5691c6676ed9b3cfb4d343c1f9e6a667c3043c0873f7e350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 24.233.110.70 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} NRR Um weird attachmehts On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 13:59:04 -0400, <XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com> wrote: > In a message dated 10/11/2007 9:48:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > Majestic216@cs.com writes: > > If that's not enough for you, go to school, get an education, if you see > deficiencies in the system, use you experience to get involved on a > professional level and work to change them > > > That's a lot to ask of a person that the system labels psychotic. Maybe > you > should listen to my complaints and change the system to better help the > people > its supposed to help. The only people who can help you are yourself and Christ. Since you don't believe in Christ, I guess it's up to you. Thinking some arbitrary "system" is going to help is most of your problem. -- --------------- DJ Entropy America's #1 Hardcore DJ/producer http://www.djentropy.com http://livejournal.com/users/djentropy http://www.myspace.com/djentropy "Education is useless without God and the Bible." - Noah Webster -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90508-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 12 23:37:31 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90508-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 37729 invoked by uid 1162); 12 Oct 2007 23:37:31 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 37712 invoked from network); 12 Oct 2007 23:37:30 -0000 From: XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com Message-ID: <d4b.14584d61.34415f32@aol.com> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 19:37:22 EDT To: djentropy@mindspring.com, ed.rodgers@gmail.com CC: Majestic216@cs.com, pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1192232242" X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 102 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} NRR Um weird attachmehts -------------------------------1192232242 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/12/2007 7:33:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, djentropy@mindspring.com writes: Taking responsibilities for one's actions? Yes. I served time for a crime I didn't commit....yeah they try that accept the consequeces shit at group.....well I paid consequences way excessive for my supposed crimes....The worst I did was use drugs....I didn't sell drugs or make them because i knew the consequences were severe.....1 year probation...even that is excessive because I don't feel it is a crime at all ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -------------------------------1192232242 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3DUS-ASCII"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16546" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY id=3Drole_body style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY:=20= Arial"=20 bottomMargin=3D7 leftMargin=3D7 topMargin=3D7 rightMargin=3D7><FONT id=3Drol= e_document=20 face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D2> <DIV> <DIV>In a message dated 10/12/2007 7:33:17 P.M. 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Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 37978 invoked from network); 12 Oct 2007 23:37:44 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=It1N5PPgupKSeBbVvZxJHYUKWdlKz88g03dDfknSH97V4dijb/uH64k4B3jAQrXN; h=Received:Date:To:Subject:Reply-To:From:Organization:Cc:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 19:37:41 -0400 To: XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com, ed.rodgers@gmail.com Reply-To: djentropy@mindspring.com From: "DJ Entropy" <djentropy@mindspring.com> Organization: America's #1 Hardcore DJ/Producer Cc: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-15 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <d39.16e3be9b.344104ec@aol.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <op.tz3yk3rovuw4b3@tripiithemoon> In-Reply-To: <d39.16e3be9b.344104ec@aol.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.23 (Win32) X-ELNK-Trace: 6b6f10563bc8a19efcd34c2497a6c28d40683398e744b8a4fdc5691c6676ed9b44cdf5585e906860666fa475841a1c7a350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 24.233.110.70 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} NRR Um weird attachmehts On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 13:12:12 -0400, <XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com> wrote: > In a message dated 10/12/2007 8:02:12 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > ed.rodgers@gmail.com writes: > > Maybe you should stop playing a victim and take some responsibility for > yourself and go do something productive... > > > I am a victim of the war on drugs....thought you were to? Getting arrested made you "insane"? So what, you got busted. It happens. So pick yourself up and make your life better. It's not my job or the government's job to make your life better, it's YOURS. -- --------------- DJ Entropy America's #1 Hardcore DJ/producer http://www.djentropy.com http://livejournal.com/users/djentropy http://www.myspace.com/djentropy "Education is useless without God and the Bible." - Noah Webster -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90510-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 12 23:41:23 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90510-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 40275 invoked by uid 1162); 12 Oct 2007 23:41:23 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 40258 invoked from network); 12 Oct 2007 23:41:22 -0000 From: XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com Message-ID: <c9c.1be2e2b0.3441601c@aol.com> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 19:41:16 EDT To: djentropy@mindspring.com, ed.rodgers@gmail.com CC: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1192232476" X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 102 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} NRR Um weird attachmehts -------------------------------1192232476 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/12/2007 7:37:49 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, djentropy@mindspring.com writes: Getting arrested made you "insane"? So what, you got busted. It happens. So pick yourself up and make your life better. It's not my job or the government's job to make your life better, it's YOURS. I know its my job and I wish the fuckin government would quit making it so much harder ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -------------------------------1192232476 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3DUS-ASCII"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16546" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY id=3Drole_body style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY:=20= Arial"=20 bottomMargin=3D7 leftMargin=3D7 topMargin=3D7 rightMargin=3D7><FONT id=3Drol= e_document=20 face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D2> <DIV> <DIV>In a message dated 10/12/2007 7:37:49 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,=20 djentropy@mindspring.com writes:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"><= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>Getting=20 arrested made you "insane"?<BR><BR>So what, you got busted.  It=20 happens.  So pick yourself up and make your  <BR>life better.&nb= sp;=20 It's not my job or the government's job to make your life  <BR>better= ,=20 it's YOURS.<BR></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV>I know its my job and I wish the fuckin government would quit making it= so=20 much harder</DIV></FONT><BR><BR><BR><DIV><FONT style=3D"color: black; font:=20= normal 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF;"><HR style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 10px">See what's new= at <A title=3D"http://www.aol.com?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001170" href=3D"http= ://www.aol.com?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001170" target=3D"_blank">AOL.com</A> an= d <A title=3D"http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001169" h= ref=3D"http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001169" target= =3D"_blank">Make AOL Your Homepage</A>.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> -------------------------------1192232476-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90511-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 12 23:42:43 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90511-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 41389 invoked by uid 1162); 12 Oct 2007 23:42:43 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 41371 invoked from network); 12 Oct 2007 23:42:43 -0000 From: XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com Message-ID: <d6b.f93f754.3441606d@aol.com> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 19:42:37 EDT To: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_d6b.f93f754.3441606d_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 102 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Fwd: {pb-cle} NRR Um weird attachmehts --part1_d6b.f93f754.3441606d_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1192232557" -------------------------------1192232557 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -------------------------------1192232557 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3DUS-ASCII"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16546" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY id=3Drole_body style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY:=20= Arial"=20 bottomMargin=3D7 leftMargin=3D7 topMargin=3D7 rightMargin=3D7><FONT id=3Drol= e_document=20 face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D2> <DIV> </DIV></FONT><BR><BR><BR><DIV><FONT style=3D"color: black; font:=20= normal 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF;"><HR style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 10px">See what's new= at <A title=3D"http://www.aol.com?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001170" href=3D"http= ://www.aol.com?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001170" target=3D"_blank">AOL.com</A> an= d <A title=3D"http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001169" h= ref=3D"http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001169" target= =3D"_blank">Make AOL Your Homepage</A>.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> -------------------------------1192232557-- --part1_d6b.f93f754.3441606d_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: <XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com> From: XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com Full-name: XxXJuNgLALieNXxX Message-ID: <cb0.1e4b78e5.34415fa1@aol.com> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 19:39:13 EDT Subject: Re: {pb-cle} NRR Um weird attachmehts To: djentropy@mindspring.com, Majestic216@cs.com, pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org, ed.rodgers@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1192232353" X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 102 -------------------------------1192232353 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/12/2007 7:36:01 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, djentropy@mindspring.com writes: Thinking some arbitrary "system" is going to help is most of your problem. My whole point is the system doesn't help!! So many systems within systems so someone gets a job or makes some money and the end result of helping someone gets lost ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -------------------------------1192232353 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3DUS-ASCII"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16546" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY id=3Drole_body style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY:=20= Arial"=20 bottomMargin=3D7 leftMargin=3D7 topMargin=3D7 rightMargin=3D7><FONT id=3Drol= e_document=20 face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D2> <DIV> <DIV>In a message dated 10/12/2007 7:36:01 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,=20 djentropy@mindspring.com writes:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"><= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>Thinking=20 some arbitrary "system" is going to help is most of your=20 problem.</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV>My whole point is the system doesn't help!! So many systems within syst= ems=20 so someone gets a job or makes some money and the end result of helping some= one=20 gets lost</DIV></FONT><BR><BR><BR><DIV><FONT style=3D"color: black; font: no= rmal 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF;"><HR style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 10px">See what's new a= t <A title=3D"http://www.aol.com?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001170" href=3D"http:/= /www.aol.com?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001170" target=3D"_blank">AOL.com</A> and=20= <A title=3D"http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001169" hre= f=3D"http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001169" target=3D"= _blank">Make AOL Your Homepage</A>.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> -------------------------------1192232353-- --part1_d6b.f93f754.3441606d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? --part1_d6b.f93f754.3441606d_boundary-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90512-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 12 23:47:31 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90512-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 44431 invoked by uid 1162); 12 Oct 2007 23:47:31 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 44414 invoked from network); 12 Oct 2007 23:47:30 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=eT13kvJ7mr6gVOLcgfF1IQmJg3iAWcKu0jJIrPw9+kjWbFIiRbG6VqnEz4J6dqPb; h=Received:To:Subject:Reply-To:From:Organization:Content-Type:MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Date:Message-ID:User-Agent:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; To: "pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org" <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> Reply-To: djentropy@mindspring.com From: "DJ Entropy" <djentropy@mindspring.com> Organization: America's #1 Hardcore DJ/Producer Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-15 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <cb0.1e4b78e5.34415fa1@aol.com> References: <cb0.1e4b78e5.34415fa1@aol.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 19:47:28 -0400 Message-ID: <op.tz3y1eh9vuw4b3@tripiithemoon> User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.23 (Win32) X-ELNK-Trace: 6b6f10563bc8a19efcd34c2497a6c28d40683398e744b8a4fdc5691c6676ed9bb914022b8ba94127a2d4e88014a4647c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 24.233.110.70 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} NRR Um weird attachmehts On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 19:39:13 -0400, <XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com> wrote: > In a message dated 10/12/2007 7:36:01 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > djentropy@mindspring.com writes: > > Thinking some arbitrary "system" is going to help is most of your > problem. > > > My whole point is the system doesn't help!! It's not suppossed to. Only you can help you. -- --------------- DJ Entropy America's #1 Hardcore DJ/producer http://www.djentropy.com http://livejournal.com/users/djentropy http://www.myspace.com/djentropy "Education is useless without God and the Bible." - Noah Webster -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90513-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 12 23:53:47 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90513-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 47740 invoked by uid 1162); 12 Oct 2007 23:53:46 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 47724 invoked from network); 12 Oct 2007 23:53:46 -0000 From: XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com Message-ID: <c71.1c2afe59.34416301@aol.com> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 19:53:37 EDT To: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_c71.1c2afe59.34416301_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 102 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Fwd: {pb-cle} NRR Um weird attachmehts --part1_c71.1c2afe59.34416301_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1192233217" -------------------------------1192233217 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -------------------------------1192233217 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3DUS-ASCII"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16546" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY id=3Drole_body style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY:=20= Arial"=20 bottomMargin=3D7 leftMargin=3D7 topMargin=3D7 rightMargin=3D7><FONT id=3Drol= e_document=20 face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D2> <DIV> </DIV></FONT><BR><BR><BR><DIV><FONT style=3D"color: black; font:=20= normal 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF;"><HR style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 10px">See what's new= at <A title=3D"http://www.aol.com?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001170" href=3D"http= ://www.aol.com?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001170" target=3D"_blank">AOL.com</A> an= d <A title=3D"http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001169" h= ref=3D"http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001169" target= =3D"_blank">Make AOL Your Homepage</A>.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> -------------------------------1192233217-- --part1_c71.1c2afe59.34416301_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: <XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com> From: XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com Full-name: XxXJuNgLALieNXxX Message-ID: <c2d.1de34fb7.34416290@aol.com> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 19:51:44 EDT Subject: Re: {pb-cle} NRR Um weird attachmehts To: djentropy@mindspring.com, Majestic216@cs.com, pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org, ed.rodgers@gmail.comm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1192233104" X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 102 -------------------------------1192233104 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/12/2007 7:47:05 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, djentropy@mindspring.com writes: It's not suppossed to. Only you can help you. then what is the point of the mental health or prison system? I know the primary purpose of the PA prison system is to provide easy high paying jobs derived from making people suffer to rural rednecks who otherwise would be on welfare......Weren't you in prison?....I felt maybe 50% of the people in there were "bad" people who deserved to be there... ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -------------------------------1192233104 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3DUS-ASCII"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16546" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY id=3Drole_body style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY:=20= Arial"=20 bottomMargin=3D7 leftMargin=3D7 topMargin=3D7 rightMargin=3D7><FONT id=3Drol= e_document=20 face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D2> <DIV> <DIV>In a message dated 10/12/2007 7:47:05 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,=20 djentropy@mindspring.com writes:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"><= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>It's not=20 suppossed to.  Only you can help you.<BR></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV>then what is the point of the mental health or prison system? I know th= e=20 primary purpose of the PA prison system is to provide easy high paying jobs=20 derived from making people suffer to rural rednecks who otherwise would be o= n=20 welfare......Weren't you in prison?....I felt maybe 50% of the people in the= re=20 were "bad" people who deserved to be there...</DIV></FONT><BR><BR><BR><DIV><= FONT style=3D"color: black; font: normal 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF;"><HR style= =3D"MARGIN-TOP: 10px">See what's new at <A title=3D"http://www.aol.com?NCID= =3DAOLCMP00300000001170" href=3D"http://www.aol.com?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001= 170" target=3D"_blank">AOL.com</A> and <A title=3D"http://www.aol.com/mkspla= sh.adp?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001169" href=3D"http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?= NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001169" target=3D"_blank">Make AOL Your Homepage</A>.</= FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> -------------------------------1192233104-- --part1_c71.1c2afe59.34416301_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? --part1_c71.1c2afe59.34416301_boundary-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90514-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Oct 13 00:48:52 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90514-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 72213 invoked by uid 1162); 13 Oct 2007 00:48:51 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 72197 invoked from network); 13 Oct 2007 00:48:51 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=PZ7XgGq78lklD5/v4AiCYZEPBTV/sJ/I9Bf6QlgW1FDQYM/bMCiE2TzjY8UVfS5g; h=Received:To:Subject:Reply-To:From:Organization:Content-Type:MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Date:Message-ID:User-Agent:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; To: "pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org" <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> Reply-To: djentropy@mindspring.com From: "DJ Entropy" <djentropy@mindspring.com> Organization: America's #1 Hardcore DJ/Producer Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-15 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <c2d.1de34fb7.34416290@aol.com> References: <c2d.1de34fb7.34416290@aol.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 20:48:49 -0400 Message-ID: <op.tz31vnl0vuw4b3@tripiithemoon> User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.23 (Win32) X-ELNK-Trace: 6b6f10563bc8a19efcd34c2497a6c28d40683398e744b8a434f8907105d91c334b789860acbbebe3350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 24.233.110.70 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} NRR Um weird attachmehts On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 19:51:44 -0400, <XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com> wrote: > In a message dated 10/12/2007 7:47:05 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > djentropy@mindspring.com writes: > > It's not suppossed to. Only you can help you. > > > > then what is the point of the mental health [system] Well, regardless of what it is now, it's suppossed to be a place to keep actual psychotic dangerous people out of society. > or prison system? The same thing as above. Stop relying on government or "systems" to help you. Stop relying on OTHER people. No one owes you anything. Only you can make your life what you want it to be. -- --------------- DJ Entropy America's #1 Hardcore DJ/producer http://www.djentropy.com http://livejournal.com/users/djentropy http://www.myspace.com/djentropy "Education is useless without God and the Bible." - Noah Webster -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? 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Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 83663 invoked from network); 13 Oct 2007 01:12:21 -0000 From: XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com Message-ID: <cfd.1d041579.3441756f@aol.com> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 21:12:15 EDT To: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_cfd.1d041579.3441756f_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 102 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Fwd: {pb-cle} NRR Um weird attachmehts --part1_cfd.1d041579.3441756f_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1192237935" -------------------------------1192237935 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -------------------------------1192237935 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3DUS-ASCII"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16546" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY id=3Drole_body style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY:=20= Arial"=20 bottomMargin=3D7 leftMargin=3D7 topMargin=3D7 rightMargin=3D7><FONT id=3Drol= e_document=20 face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D2> <DIV> </DIV></FONT><BR><BR><BR><DIV><FONT style=3D"color: black; font:=20= normal 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF;"><HR style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 10px">See what's new= at <A title=3D"http://www.aol.com?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001170" href=3D"http= ://www.aol.com?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001170" target=3D"_blank">AOL.com</A> an= d <A title=3D"http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001169" h= ref=3D"http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001169" target= =3D"_blank">Make AOL Your Homepage</A>.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> -------------------------------1192237935-- --part1_cfd.1d041579.3441756f_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: <XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com> From: XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com Full-name: XxXJuNgLALieNXxX Message-ID: <cb1.1e4d1f0f.344170f1@aol.com> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 20:53:05 EDT Subject: Re: {pb-cle} NRR Um weird attachmehts To: djentropy@mindspring.com, Majestic216@cs.com, pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org, ed.rodgers@gmail.comm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1192236785" X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 102 -------------------------------1192236785 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/12/2007 8:48:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, djentropy@mindspring.com writes: then what is the point of the mental health [system] Well, regardless of what it is now, it's suppossed to be a place to keep actual psychotic dangerous people out of society. There is no hope for you...you have the ice cold conservative blood.... I'm talking about the fuckin outpatient system that I am in........Its supposed to help people with illness...Dangerous psychotic people.. I wish we could them out of society Psychotic = out of touch with reallity....sounds like you and most conservatives ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -------------------------------1192236785 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3DUS-ASCII"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16546" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY id=3Drole_body style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY:=20= Arial"=20 bottomMargin=3D7 leftMargin=3D7 topMargin=3D7 rightMargin=3D7><FONT id=3Drol= e_document=20 face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D2> <DIV> <DIV>In a message dated 10/12/2007 8:48:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,=20 djentropy@mindspring.com writes:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"><= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>then=20 what is the point of the mental health [system]<BR><BR><BR>Well, regardles= s of=20 what it is now, it's suppossed to be a place to keep  <BR>actual=20 psychotic dangerous people out of society.<BR></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV>There is no hope for you...you have the ice cold conservative=20 blood....</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I'm talking about the fuckin outpatient system that I am in........Its=20 supposed to help people with illness...Dangerous psychotic people.. I wish w= e=20 could them out of society</DIV> <DIV>Psychotic =3D out of touch with reallity....sounds like you and most=20 conservatives</DIV></FONT><BR><BR><BR><DIV><FONT style=3D"color: black; font= : normal 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF;"><HR style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 10px">See what's n= ew at <A title=3D"http://www.aol.com?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001170" href=3D"ht= tp://www.aol.com?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001170" target=3D"_blank">AOL.com</A>=20= and <A title=3D"http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001169"= href=3D"http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001169" target= =3D"_blank">Make AOL Your Homepage</A>.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> -------------------------------1192236785-- --part1_cfd.1d041579.3441756f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? --part1_cfd.1d041579.3441756f_boundary-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90516-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Oct 13 01:13:52 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90516-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 84888 invoked by uid 1162); 13 Oct 2007 01:13:51 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 84864 invoked from network); 13 Oct 2007 01:13:50 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=X2v+2371PQlHhWNxbQgyLrt3upv+fRMMSGOe5H1wAjUanD6vfzsJs1Y3FP6u3pVz; h=Received:Date:To:Subject:Reply-To:From:Organization:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 21:13:48 -0400 To: "pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org" <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> Reply-To: djentropy@mindspring.com From: "DJ Entropy" <djentropy@mindspring.com> Organization: America's #1 Hardcore DJ/Producer Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-15 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <cb1.1e4d1f0f.344170f1@aol.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable Message-ID: <op.tz321arsvuw4b3@tripiithemoon> In-Reply-To: <cb1.1e4d1f0f.344170f1@aol.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.23 (Win32) X-ELNK-Trace: 6b6f10563bc8a19efcd34c2497a6c28d40683398e744b8a4396015dda2e5d45b5f0c60621cf2cf5e93caf27dac41a8fd350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 24.233.110.70 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} NRR Um weird attachmehts On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 20:53:05 -0400, <XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com> wrote: > In a message dated 10/12/2007 8:48:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > djentropy@mindspring.com writes: > > then what is the point of the mental health [system] > > > Well, regardless of what it is now, it's suppossed to be a place to k= eep > actual psychotic dangerous people out of society. > > > > There is no hope for you...you have the ice cold conservative blood..= .. I'm spending time that I could be spending watching the Red Sox with my = = family giving you advice...that is pretty "ice cold"... > I'm talking about the fuckin outpatient system that I am in........Its= > supposed to help people with illness Obviously it doesn't work. "Systems" don't generally do. > Psychotic =3D out of touch with reallity....sounds like you and most > conservatives Attack, attack, attack...no wonder you're so confused...all you do is ha= te. -- = --------------- DJ Entropy America's #1 Hardcore DJ/producer http://www.djentropy.com http://livejournal.com/users/djentropy http://www.myspace.com/djentropy "Education is useless without God and the Bible." - Noah Webster -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90517-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Oct 13 01:30:28 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90517-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 94730 invoked by uid 1162); 13 Oct 2007 01:30:27 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 94713 invoked from network); 13 Oct 2007 01:30:27 -0000 From: XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com Message-ID: <c92.1661ff40.344179af@aol.com> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 21:30:23 EDT To: djentropy@mindspring.com, pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1192239023" X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 102 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} NRR Um weird attachmehts -------------------------------1192239023 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/12/2007 9:14:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, djentropy@mindspring.com writes: I'm spending time that I could be spending watching the Red Sox with my family giving you advice...that is pretty "ice cold"... All that matters is YOUR family? Typical conservative.. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -------------------------------1192239023 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3DUS-ASCII"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16546" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY id=3Drole_body style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY:=20= Arial"=20 bottomMargin=3D7 leftMargin=3D7 topMargin=3D7 rightMargin=3D7><FONT id=3Drol= e_document=20 face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D2> <DIV> <DIV>In a message dated 10/12/2007 9:14:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,=20 djentropy@mindspring.com writes:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"><= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>I'm=20 spending time that I could be spending watching the Red Sox with my =20 <BR>family giving you advice...that is pretty "ice=20 cold"...<BR></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV>All that matters is YOUR family? Typical=20 conservative..</DIV></FONT><BR><BR><BR><DIV><FONT style=3D"color: black; fon= t: normal 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF;"><HR style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 10px">See what's=20= new at <A title=3D"http://www.aol.com?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001170" href=3D"h= ttp://www.aol.com?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001170" target=3D"_blank">AOL.com</A>= and <A title=3D"http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001169= " href=3D"http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001169" targe= t=3D"_blank">Make AOL Your Homepage</A>.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> -------------------------------1192239023-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90518-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Oct 13 01:51:31 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90518-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1841 invoked by uid 1162); 13 Oct 2007 01:51:30 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1823 invoked from network); 13 Oct 2007 01:51:30 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=muSle1H3nCX13ZZ3vNHsPWdWNzolqat7DSnL2ptX6zJkSndsIynF0mOxvX23fEJ2; h=Received:To:Subject:Reply-To:From:Organization:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Date:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; To: XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com, pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Reply-To: djentropy@mindspring.com From: "DJ Entropy" <djentropy@mindspring.com> Organization: America's #1 Hardcore DJ/Producer Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-15 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <c92.1661ff40.344179af@aol.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 21:51:27 -0400 Message-ID: <op.tz34r1cmvuw4b3@tripiithemoon> In-Reply-To: <c92.1661ff40.344179af@aol.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.23 (Win32) X-ELNK-Trace: 6b6f10563bc8a19efcd34c2497a6c28d40683398e744b8a490d122c8f57e9acbc317f2f3e5b8dde2666fa475841a1c7a350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 24.233.110.70 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} NRR Um weird attachmehts On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 21:30:23 -0400, <XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com> wrote: > In a message dated 10/12/2007 9:14:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > djentropy@mindspring.com writes: > > I'm spending time that I could be spending watching the Red Sox with my > family giving you advice...that is pretty "ice cold"... > > > > All that matters is YOUR family? To me directly? Yes > Typical conservative.. You haven't talked about anything but yourself on this list. -- --------------- DJ Entropy America's #1 Hardcore DJ/producer http://www.djentropy.com http://livejournal.com/users/djentropy http://www.myspace.com/djentropy "Education is useless without God and the Bible." - Noah Webster -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90519-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Oct 13 01:59:15 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90519-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5693 invoked by uid 1162); 13 Oct 2007 01:59:15 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5670 invoked from network); 13 Oct 2007 01:59:14 -0000 From: XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com Message-ID: <c4c.1f1a6262.3441806b@aol.com> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 21:59:07 EDT To: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_c4c.1f1a6262.3441806b_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 102 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Fwd: {pb-cle} NRR Um weird attachmehts --part1_c4c.1f1a6262.3441806b_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1192240747" -------------------------------1192240747 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -------------------------------1192240747 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3DUS-ASCII"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16546" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY id=3Drole_body style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY:=20= Arial"=20 bottomMargin=3D7 leftMargin=3D7 topMargin=3D7 rightMargin=3D7><FONT id=3Drol= e_document=20 face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D2> <DIV> </DIV></FONT><BR><BR><BR><DIV><FONT style=3D"color: black; font:=20= normal 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF;"><HR style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 10px">See what's new= at <A title=3D"http://www.aol.com?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001170" href=3D"http= ://www.aol.com?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001170" target=3D"_blank">AOL.com</A> an= d <A title=3D"http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001169" h= ref=3D"http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001169" target= =3D"_blank">Make AOL Your Homepage</A>.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> -------------------------------1192240747-- --part1_c4c.1f1a6262.3441806b_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: <XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com> From: XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com Full-name: XxXJuNgLALieNXxX Message-ID: <cbc.1dff60cf.34418002@aol.com> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 21:57:22 EDT Subject: Re: {pb-cle} NRR Um weird attachmehts To: djentropy@mindspring.com, pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1192240642" X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 102 -------------------------------1192240642 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/12/2007 9:51:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, djentropy@mindspring.com writes: You haven't talked about anything but yourself on this list. yes I have....I've been trying to un sub from this list for 2 days because I realize this is not the place for it....My goal is to make people aware of what really goes on with the criminal justice system and war on drugs....Not what they are brainwashed with on TV...Notice how almost every TV is about cops and court rooms....They should make my story an episode of law and order so people can see who the real "BAD GUYS" are. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -------------------------------1192240642 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3DUS-ASCII"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16546" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY id=3Drole_body style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY:=20= Arial"=20 bottomMargin=3D7 leftMargin=3D7 topMargin=3D7 rightMargin=3D7><FONT id=3Drol= e_document=20 face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D2> <DIV> <DIV>In a message dated 10/12/2007 9:51:45 P.M. 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Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5920 invoked from network); 13 Oct 2007 01:59:27 -0000 From: XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com Message-ID: <cbc.1dff60cf.34418002@aol.com> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 21:57:22 EDT To: djentropy@mindspring.com, pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1192240642" X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 102 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} NRR Um weird attachmehts -------------------------------1192240642 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/12/2007 9:51:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, djentropy@mindspring.com writes: You haven't talked about anything but yourself on this list. yes I have....I've been trying to un sub from this list for 2 days because I realize this is not the place for it....My goal is to make people aware of what really goes on with the criminal justice system and war on drugs....Not what they are brainwashed with on TV...Notice how almost every TV is about cops and court rooms....They should make my story an episode of law and order so people can see who the real "BAD GUYS" are. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -------------------------------1192240642 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3DUS-ASCII"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16546" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY id=3Drole_body style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY:=20= Arial"=20 bottomMargin=3D7 leftMargin=3D7 topMargin=3D7 rightMargin=3D7><FONT id=3Drol= e_document=20 face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D2> <DIV> <DIV>In a message dated 10/12/2007 9:51:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,=20 djentropy@mindspring.com writes:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"><= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>You=20 haven't talked about anything but yourself on this=20 list.<BR></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV>yes I have....I've been trying to un sub from this list for 2 days beca= use=20 I realize this is not the place for it....My goal is to make people aware of= =20 what really goes on with the criminal justice system and war on drugs....Not= =20 what they are brainwashed with on TV...Notice how almost every TV is about c= ops=20 and court rooms....They should make my story an episode of law and order so=20 people can see who the real "BAD GUYS" are.</DIV></FONT><BR><BR><BR><DIV><FO= NT style=3D"color: black; font: normal 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF;"><HR style=3D"= MARGIN-TOP: 10px">See what's new at <A title=3D"http://www.aol.com?NCID=3DAO= LCMP00300000001170" href=3D"http://www.aol.com?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001170"=20= target=3D"_blank">AOL.com</A> and <A title=3D"http://www.aol.com/mksplash.ad= p?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001169" href=3D"http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID= =3DAOLCMP00300000001169" target=3D"_blank">Make AOL Your Homepage</A>.</FONT= ></DIV></BODY></HTML> -------------------------------1192240642-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90521-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Oct 13 03:16:47 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90521-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 42073 invoked by uid 1162); 13 Oct 2007 03:16:46 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 42045 invoked from network); 13 Oct 2007 03:16:46 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=qoeiQ1et3YnrVVYV4mdW5TR235GBxY6nELii15LGFx03PrP9eT2eoq1UdIaGbmEM; h=Received:To:Subject:Reply-To:From:Organization:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Date:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; To: XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com, pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Reply-To: djentropy@mindspring.com From: "DJ Entropy" <djentropy@mindspring.com> Organization: America's #1 Hardcore DJ/Producer Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-15 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <cbc.1dff60cf.34418002@aol.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 23:16:43 -0400 Message-ID: <op.tz38p5qdvuw4b3@tripiithemoon> In-Reply-To: <cbc.1dff60cf.34418002@aol.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.23 (Win32) X-ELNK-Trace: 6b6f10563bc8a19efcd34c2497a6c28d40683398e744b8a493996b765810a23a569ad93be170e06b2601a10902912494350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 24.233.110.70 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} NRR Um weird attachmehts On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 21:57:22 -0400, <XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com> wrote: > In a message dated 10/12/2007 9:51:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > djentropy@mindspring.com writes: > > You haven't talked about anything but yourself on this list. > > > > yes I have....I've been trying to un sub from this list for 2 days > because I > realize this is not the place for it.... pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org -- --------------- DJ Entropy America's #1 Hardcore DJ/producer http://www.djentropy.com http://livejournal.com/users/djentropy http://www.myspace.com/djentropy "Education is useless without God and the Bible." - Noah Webster -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90522-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Oct 14 06:01:17 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90522-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 40556 invoked by uid 1162); 14 Oct 2007 06:01:17 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 40539 invoked from network); 14 Oct 2007 06:01:16 -0000 From: Gatsby9@aol.com Message-ID: <c9d.1bfae616.34430aaa@aol.com> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 02:01:14 EDT To: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1192341674" X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5359 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: {pb-cle} 1200 weight? -------------------------------1192341674 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anyone ever flown with 1200s? How much does a 1200 in a metal flight case weigh, approximately? ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -------------------------------1192341674 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3DUS-ASCII"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.3199" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY id=3Drole_body style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY:=20= Georgia"=20 bottomMargin=3D7 leftMargin=3D7 topMargin=3D7 rightMargin=3D7><FONT id=3Drol= e_document=20 face=3DGeorgia color=3D#000000 size=3D2> <DIV>Anyone ever flown with 1200s?  How much does a 1200 in a metal fli= ght=20 case weigh, approximately?</DIV></FONT><BR><BR><BR><DIV><FONT style=3D"color= : black; font: normal 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF;"><HR style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 10px"= >See what's new at <A title=3D"http://www.aol.com?NCID=3DAOLCMP0030000000117= 0" href=3D"http://www.aol.com?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001170" target=3D"_blank"= >AOL.com</A> and <A title=3D"http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=3DAOLCMP00= 300000001169" href=3D"http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=3DAOLCMP003000000= 01169" target=3D"_blank">Make AOL Your Homepage</A>.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HT= ML> -------------------------------1192341674-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90523-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Oct 14 16:15:31 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90523-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18951 invoked by uid 1162); 14 Oct 2007 16:15:30 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18932 invoked from network); 14 Oct 2007 16:15:29 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=0VKM0nFG5bFEWFACsTGhkjBA6op1BWgeYFQRoNug4f0=; b=ujajlnm3wsv6UuWqPlAHPeMUq0X+iI40Bti/oLUZ5IveUdZxknrzgOkLORwgPC98zaROWk74NP6BobQu45blVZ5XQQoZ4+C+M9Gsr9/lW0DzSHqkXHMM9DdkS+57f8PrlmPqYvgaVvB0b/rmIYwmUZaYZI2esaUxPlojwnFvZZ8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Qkw3YO1wTH4ZNOL52VlWYpW4cjaCaUluQ8t6dMBGeHNgtRQ9RbpQSrApafarKcd4rie1dqQ5lSp/kC0trrd4g3LCbvBZzGYama678CuHgu3VlXhqbLIPch/MjA7WxiLXeXJnYmVt0PPsWr9lebYU1wyazSlv6id433sWwUQsai0= Message-ID: <a6b17acc0710140915w494ba02dj5d8e900465478e5b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 12:15:28 -0400 From: Dean <talldean@gmail.com> To: "Gatsby9@aol.com" <Gatsby9@aol.com> Cc: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <c9d.1bfae616.34430aaa@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <c9d.1bfae616.34430aaa@aol.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} 1200 weight? 30-35 lbs, depends on the case. -D On 10/14/07, Gatsby9@aol.com <Gatsby9@aol.com> wrote: > > > Anyone ever flown with 1200s? How much does a 1200 in a metal flight case > weigh, approximately? > > > ________________________________ > See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90524-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Oct 14 17:28:35 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90524-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 44153 invoked by uid 1162); 14 Oct 2007 17:28:35 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 44136 invoked from network); 14 Oct 2007 17:28:34 -0000 From: Gatsby9@aol.com Message-ID: <be5.18a8e756.3443abbc@aol.com> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 13:28:28 EDT To: talldean@gmail.com CC: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1192382908" X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5359 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} 1200 weight? -------------------------------1192382908 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks, the airline requires >40 lbs for carry on and >50 for checked bags. I'm hoping to gate check it, have you done that? ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -------------------------------1192382908 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3DUS-ASCII"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.3199" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY id=3Drole_body style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY:=20= Georgia"=20 bottomMargin=3D7 leftMargin=3D7 topMargin=3D7 rightMargin=3D7><FONT id=3Drol= e_document=20 face=3DGeorgia color=3D#000000 size=3D2> <DIV>Thanks, the airline requires >40 lbs  for carry on and >50 f= or=20 checked bags.  I'm hoping to gate check it, have you done=20 that?</DIV></FONT><BR><BR><BR><DIV><FONT style=3D"color: black; font: normal= 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF;"><HR style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 10px">See what's new at <A= title=3D"http://www.aol.com?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001170" href=3D"http://www= .aol.com?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001170" target=3D"_blank">AOL.com</A> and <A t= itle=3D"http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001169" href= =3D"http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001169" target=3D"_= blank">Make AOL Your Homepage</A>.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> -------------------------------1192382908-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90525-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 15 13:26:52 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90525-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 90860 invoked by uid 1162); 15 Oct 2007 13:26:50 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 90834 invoked from network); 15 Oct 2007 13:26:50 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=zh9CtyUFZd8PBK9Onh2tYyYnoSDX+telHKgLO7OSl48=; b=O6W+rinEw+gRCcVQ8LiXU4LGPt47uaiZgvMUNh2kpNZEuiF3UX1CppkUWXtrRhroyI/NIZkDTuhRbKJnjnYt11OlqiaFUPffDYQqoy5wJF9LfKhbahVYJ8epi4Tvx3qoQQyzpyB9c038mpudg/CVl9tSLFt9ATS9dHyho6FDtok= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=A8e9LZHbfcMdlxTtd+kjkK4gpgLXvzqPrc46Bc1mKD7COhyOAFhoWHada6zgm0wB7fCIPlmlpYt5R+PrR+6EfWhK4tQ3SwYwBeTWFjS162Q4RlH3WQ5oYblqDbXkHzpXXMy0qNkVpvIW7G6bZTLdaDi06gdK5hI2Ila9zh2d17w= Message-ID: <47136B10.5080007@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 09:28:48 -0400 From: Dean J <talldean@gmail.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gatsby9@aol.com CC: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org References: <be5.18a8e756.3443abbc@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <be5.18a8e756.3443abbc@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} 1200 weight? I'm not sure they'll let it go that far; it's too wide/deep to be a legit carry-on bag? If you don't have the flight cases yet, spend the extra cash on good ones. Baggage throwers kinda suck. -D Gatsby9@aol.com wrote: > Thanks, the airline requires >40 lbs for carry on and >50 for checked > bags. I'm hoping to gate check it, have you done that? > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > See what's new at AOL.com <http://www.aol.com?NCID=AOLCMP00300000001170> > and Make AOL Your Homepage > <http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=AOLCMP00300000001169>. -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? 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Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 94778 invoked from network); 15 Oct 2007 15:58:23 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=pnlAlW2nWsVXtR7aspuKodC1ANQiaWUg5iOHqImRRY4=; b=nJdu+ssV+jlpp5wrMLnGo9eyOVcnKZ2Ip3gL+QSNYYGbTXr9MJSdJ28Mn9vNARGkoSzxMuoXo6vHgAOmJTSfIKat3Ms6CtBpwGVuGP7eOtCH7yDfObvqAW4Hfks0zt/+GZGufznYxrt7ROgtvP08GVw3qIHpf8nIU0NbAzMv72o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Dl5KL3UVUXxack1kl4PZVBEA/HZrxmOrWKvbPz4s4LNgyBf10RoolqteQZBlVA6YeLHKyWIqCnJS/Sfch7UHrAXQwrs4E/AnH+d8AuTmvzLwdvwgcJinhGuIL8B2zBmUkKPn71qeJKLkxc1p563pNU5h7hiJYabxyvbwW+/e4aI= Message-ID: <8641c6dd0710150858p3916263aw3b2596102ae10bd9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 11:58:20 -0400 From: "[mark ]" <hypnotyza@gmail.com> To: "Ed Rodgers" <ed.rodgers@gmail.com> Cc: "pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org" <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> In-Reply-To: <e23444c80710121546q4adcabbfsd0b74ced424a75fa@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <e23444c80710121546q4adcabbfsd0b74ced424a75fa@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} butt machine well, that answers the age old question, "What would happen if the Blue Man Group and Andrew W.K. had an orgy?" m On 10/12/07, Ed Rodgers <ed.rodgers@gmail.com> wrote: > anyone else watch weeds? > > from the end of this week's episode... just caught up on on-demand... > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHlDfejCHkc&mode=related&search= > > great song. > -- "When love is gone, there's always justice. 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Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23988 invoked from network); 15 Oct 2007 16:47:10 -0000 From: Gatsby9@aol.com Message-ID: <cbb.1c5ee9b5.3444f384@aol.com> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 12:47:00 EDT To: talldean@gmail.com CC: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1192466820" X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5359 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} 1200 weight? -------------------------------1192466820 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Not sure what you mean about legit carry-on bag? Continental's restrictions for a carry-on are 40 lbs and 51 linear inches. At 20 x 16 x 8, it is 44 linear inches. I don't think gate checking is considered carry-on...I have a child and when I gate check the stroller, that's nothing like carry-on size. It's just you're giving it to the steward at the door of the plane, to put in baggage by hand, bypassing most of the baggage handlers. Then you get it back as you leave the plane. I'm hoping I can do this with the ttable. I got the flight cases with the ttables as part of an auction, but they look tough. Anyone have actual experience with this? I'm not sure they'll let it go that far; it's too wide/deep to be a legit carry-on bag? If you don't have the flight cases yet, spend the extra cash on good ones. Baggage throwers kinda suck. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -------------------------------1192466820 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3DUS-ASCII"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.3199" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY id=3Drole_body style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY:=20= Georgia"=20 bottomMargin=3D7 leftMargin=3D7 topMargin=3D7 rightMargin=3D7><FONT id=3Drol= e_document=20 face=3DGeorgia color=3D#000000 size=3D2> <DIV> <DIV><FONT style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000= 000=20 size=3D2><FONT face=3DGeorgia>Not sure what you mean about legit carry-on=20 bag?</FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000= 000=20 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" color=3D#000000=20 size=3D2>Continental's restrictions for a carry-on are 40 lbs and 51 li= near=20 inches.  At 20 x 16 x 8, it is 44 linear inches.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I don't think gate checking is considered carry-on...I have a child and= =20 when I gate check the stroller, that's nothing like carry-on size.  It'= s=20 just you're giving it to the steward at the door of the plane, to put in bag= gage=20 by hand, bypassing most of the baggage handlers.  Then you get it back=20= as=20 you leave the plane.  I'm hoping I can do this with the ttable.  I= got=20 the flight cases with the ttables as part of an auction, but they look=20 tough.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Anyone have actual experience with this?</DIV> <DIV><FONT style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" color=3D#000000=20 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000= 000=20 size=3D2>I'm not sure they'll let it go that far; it's too wide/deep to be a= =20 <BR>legit carry-on bag?<BR><BR>If you don't have the flight cases yet, spend= the=20 extra cash on good <BR>ones.  Baggage throwers kinda=20 suck.<BR></DIV></FONT></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV></FONT><BR><BR><BR><DIV><FONT style=3D"color: black; font:=20= normal 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF;"><HR style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 10px">See what's new= at <A title=3D"http://www.aol.com?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001170" href=3D"http= ://www.aol.com?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001170" target=3D"_blank">AOL.com</A> an= d <A title=3D"http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001169" h= ref=3D"http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001169" target= =3D"_blank">Make AOL Your Homepage</A>.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> -------------------------------1192466820-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90528-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 15 16:52:18 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90528-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26599 invoked by uid 1162); 15 Oct 2007 16:52:17 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26581 invoked from network); 15 Oct 2007 16:52:17 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=iN0kfnozir2ILPDPn+RfbxW+wQNdLKkknpZQlUD30HY=; b=YJGBJih50WFSDN9g8Ygs2qyOyx+Xaf+oAu7I7q0Hp9m+hMFfM/kkiAzDGavAxy5RUW58GNS5A2Obhaj9qxJE7D4wF+72hpcZ2CkL6JiJgEBe/c+76kWqIEFQnxVMeu0tyMq3mJ0zYEm3eh/s3wBYmQTxaWs5N6DyMLj5jEQAJD8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=AphhMwCHAwSn73TkTRM05P8Dqtn9xcvW/3MV1K9TNS7jT4xuabty1kB9hqEQBwxbiif9QjOK1nPrkuPvhKNvyaXODUvpQa4sLt/Rn9IQ3tf4ju81ued3zNXqSPq3p2QWWP1XlUJrs3cwiihh5fiDR1u/ouezcxa0G+yoHw4dN2U= Message-ID: <47139B43.3020002@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 12:54:27 -0400 From: Dean J <talldean@gmail.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gatsby9@aol.com CC: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org References: <cbb.1c5ee9b5.3444f384@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <cbb.1c5ee9b5.3444f384@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} 1200 weight? 20x16x8 is a turntable? What about the flight case? Hrrm. Yeah, you can check a stroller, so odds are you could gate check tables, too. Can you just mail them, or is it a fortune? Gatsby9@aol.com wrote: > Not sure what you mean about legit carry-on bag? > > Continental's restrictions for a carry-on are 40 lbs and 51 linear > inches. At 20 x 16 x 8, it is 44 linear inches. > > I don't think gate checking is considered carry-on...I have a child and > when I gate check the stroller, that's nothing like carry-on size. It's > just you're giving it to the steward at the door of the plane, to put in > baggage by hand, bypassing most of the baggage handlers. Then you get > it back as you leave the plane. I'm hoping I can do this with the > ttable. I got the flight cases with the ttables as part of an auction, > but they look tough. > > Anyone have actual experience with this? > > I'm not sure they'll let it go that far; it's too wide/deep to be a > legit carry-on bag? > > If you don't have the flight cases yet, spend the extra cash on good > ones. Baggage throwers kinda suck. > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > See what's new at AOL.com <http://www.aol.com?NCID=AOLCMP00300000001170> > and Make AOL Your Homepage > <http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=AOLCMP00300000001169>. -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90529-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 15 17:15:33 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90529-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 43844 invoked by uid 1162); 15 Oct 2007 17:15:32 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 43825 invoked from network); 15 Oct 2007 17:15:32 -0000 From: Gatsby9@aol.com Message-ID: <c2e.1e02ba8b.3444fa2f@aol.com> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 13:15:27 EDT To: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1192468527" X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5359 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} 1200 weight? -------------------------------1192468527 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/15/2007 12:52:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, talldean@gmail.com writes: 20x16x8 is a turntable? What about the flight case? 20 x 16 x 8 is the flight case, I measured it 20 minutes ago. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -------------------------------1192468527 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3DUS-ASCII"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.3199" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY id=3Drole_body style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY:=20= Georgia"=20 bottomMargin=3D7 leftMargin=3D7 topMargin=3D7 rightMargin=3D7><FONT id=3Drol= e_document=20 face=3DGeorgia color=3D#000000 size=3D2> <DIV> <DIV>In a message dated 10/15/2007 12:52:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,=20 talldean@gmail.com writes:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"><= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>20x16x8=20 is a turntable?  What about the flight case?<BR></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><= /DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV>20 x 16 x 8 is the flight case, I measured it 20 minutes=20 ago.</DIV></FONT><BR><BR><BR><DIV><FONT style=3D"color: black; font: normal=20= 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF;"><HR style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 10px">See what's new at <A=20= title=3D"http://www.aol.com?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001170" href=3D"http://www.= aol.com?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001170" target=3D"_blank">AOL.com</A> and <A ti= tle=3D"http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001169" href=3D"= http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001169" target=3D"_blan= k">Make AOL Your Homepage</A>.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> -------------------------------1192468527-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90530-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 15 17:21:04 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90530-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 46768 invoked by uid 1162); 15 Oct 2007 17:21:03 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 46750 invoked from network); 15 Oct 2007 17:21:03 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=UUgcL++AbeYtD1MAuI6SG/WFmgMJUTNnykveTBzy1/4=; b=J3PWY+xcVvPM61egLNpyb6/9zYQrAirHWuw0q+j6qSQwHBI6YRqSwkJG4rbLQun+hD8RD2gOWovotNno5UbpdKUCaVL8rSnuoRWD4zNXXuYlp6b+Ucer/FHFRHaIquPzEGWH1Rh/jvxwYF3BsO5pa2U741xoTvcj/18CJYISzAs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=NhRydf1yAN/IBaU9t++W6BkEMb1dEULZnTmhn9vTHiccos9VGAMukqOoBMQt0g9kraPg93VZMGPXjVPf2j4vb1KAUm6Ac7U1Xd2e2bm9J4CfQ8lBDUzF4roc60odagcABMWqKh7MKTq0MIRoe+BsBn9czhsf87ojs8TyvxCHOLw= Message-ID: <e23444c80710151021m660d85yc46b9b0fc701d3c8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 13:21:01 -0400 From: "Ed Rodgers" <ed.rodgers@gmail.com> To: "Gatsby9@aol.com" <Gatsby9@aol.com> Cc: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <c2e.1e02ba8b.3444fa2f@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_28722_18626319.1192468861861" References: <c2e.1e02ba8b.3444fa2f@aol.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} 1200 weight? ------=_Part_28722_18626319.1192468861861 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline measure it again, it may have changed in the last 20 minutes. but i think there is a 2 edge limitation... 14"? only one edge can be over that... so like 24x14x12 is ok. but 16x16x16 isnt ... something like that. it has to fit in the overhead... i cant visualize a flight case doing that. On 10/15/07, Gatsby9@aol.com <Gatsby9@aol.com> wrote: > > In a message dated 10/15/2007 12:52:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > talldean@gmail.com writes: > > 20x16x8 is a turntable? What about the flight case? > > 20 x 16 x 8 is the flight case, I measured it 20 minutes ago. > > > > ------------------------------ > See what's new at AOL.com <http://www.aol.com/?NCID=AOLCMP00300000001170>and Make > AOL Your Homepage<http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=AOLCMP00300000001169> > . > ------=_Part_28722_18626319.1192468861861 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline <div>measure it again, it may have changed in the last 20 minutes.</div> <div> </div> <div>but i think there is a 2 edge limitation... 14"?  only one edge can be over that... so like 24x14x12 is ok.  but 16x16x16 isnt ... something like that.  it has to fit in the overhead... i cant visualize a flight case doing that. <br><br> </div> <div><span class="gmail_quote">On 10/15/07, <b class="gmail_sendername"><a href="mailto:Gatsby9@aol.com">Gatsby9@aol.com</a></b> <<a href="mailto:Gatsby9@aol.com">Gatsby9@aol.com</a>> wrote:</span> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid"> <div style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia"><font face="Georgia" color="#000000" size="2"><span class="q"> <div> <div>In a message dated 10/15/2007 12:52:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:talldean@gmail.com" target="_blank">talldean@gmail.com</a> writes:</div> <blockquote style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face="Arial" color="#000000" size="2">20x16x8 is a turntable?  What about the flight case?<br> </font></blockquote></div> <div></div></span> <div>20 x 16 x 8 is the flight case, I measured it 20 minutes ago.</div></font><br><br><br> <div><font style="FONT: 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF; COLOR: black"> <hr style="MARGIN-TOP: 10px"> See what's new at <a title="http://www.aol.com?NCID=AOLCMP00300000001170" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://www.aol.com/?NCID=AOLCMP00300000001170" target="_blank">AOL.com</a> and <a title="http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=AOLCMP00300000001169" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=AOLCMP00300000001169" target="_blank"> Make AOL Your Homepage</a>.</font></div></div></blockquote></div><br> ------=_Part_28722_18626319.1192468861861-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90531-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 15 17:22:46 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90531-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 47600 invoked by uid 1162); 15 Oct 2007 17:22:46 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 47584 invoked from network); 15 Oct 2007 17:22:46 -0000 From: Gatsby9@aol.com Message-ID: <c0e.17817059.3444fbd8@aol.com> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 13:22:32 EDT To: ed.rodgers@gmail.com CC: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1192468952" X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5359 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} 1200 weight? -------------------------------1192468952 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/15/2007 1:21:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ed.rodgers@gmail.com writes: it has to fit in the overhead... i cant visualize a flight case doing that. Whiiiiiich, is why I want to gate check it. Also nowhere on Continental's info is any 2 edge stipulation. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -------------------------------1192468952 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3DUS-ASCII"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.3199" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY id=3Drole_body style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY:=20= Georgia"=20 bottomMargin=3D7 leftMargin=3D7 topMargin=3D7 rightMargin=3D7><FONT id=3Drol= e_document=20 face=3DGeorgia color=3D#000000 size=3D2> <DIV> <DIV>In a message dated 10/15/2007 1:21:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,=20 ed.rodgers@gmail.com writes:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"><= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>it has=20 to fit in the overhead... i cant visualize a flight case doing that.=20 <BR></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV>Whiiiiiich, is why I want to gate check it.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Also nowhere on Continental's info is any 2 edge=20 stipulation.</DIV></FONT><BR><BR><BR><DIV><FONT style=3D"color: black; font:= normal 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF;"><HR style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 10px">See what's ne= w at <A title=3D"http://www.aol.com?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001170" href=3D"htt= p://www.aol.com?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001170" target=3D"_blank">AOL.com</A> a= nd <A title=3D"http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001169"=20= href=3D"http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=3DAOLCMP00300000001169" target= =3D"_blank">Make AOL Your Homepage</A>.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> -------------------------------1192468952-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90532-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 17 15:18:07 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90532-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24704 invoked by uid 1162); 17 Oct 2007 15:18:07 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24682 invoked from network); 17 Oct 2007 15:18:06 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=wFEyRbrLYOlYRcfbe9v8mu7yVy9kQLWzIN46pppgXnc=; b=Eb/tApoi8iZYi+oxOnuOmNENfrY9hGCp1jkNqes9pxAlVcol4A7m03yPSLC3WyawDNX773djTwsAFE3BZz58F06i4qJVF3YYWgu9aZDOsBE/2BdHffxw97nvP59WobbEzrF2vJYQPgpQ49FpTf+JXZV4BZfU8Ldq4E3R0NPBZ7I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=D68jhj2+yMPdizl0blsg53lt1qzlsqUNWTJz2vZymz57kXnSssoswqIbhNQoRYnatH7u9iaB4Rqdx5xWoYNV+VjL5JnjKD10IKaravqnQd4JIFz+X+jjrAvHE46MtwQaLbvhvJhqyQ8L0TevbguShtIcVGweIqJVEO1KfDl82n8= Message-ID: <4ced268c0710170818j19762c4cmdaf89fcd7afe3903@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 11:18:03 -0400 From: "Luke Malachi" <goahead68@gmail.com> To: pb-cle-raves <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> Cc: "Meghan Davidson" <djmeghan@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: {pb-cle} New Meghan Mixes Also, I recently recorded two new mixes. One minimal techno/tech house (mix for lala) and the other psytrance (mirror universe). Here are the links and track listings: Techno http://digitalpetals.com/goahead/DJ_Meghan-Mix_for_Lala.mp3 1. Evan Marc : Silver : Psybooty Records 2. Vincent Casanova : Moondrops : Epsilonlab 3. Evan Marc : Centigrade : Psybooty Records 4. Vincent Casanova : Ice Cube Medicine : Epsilonlab 5. Pig & Dan : Moths : Cocoon Recordings 6. Gaetano Parisio : Primo Ambiente : Adagio 7. Giorgos Gatzigristos : Boggling About the Future (3 Channels Rmx) : Channels Records 8. Mark Broom : Ping Pong : Platzhirsch Schallplatten 9. Joel Mull & Vincenza : Stocktown : Liebe Detail 10. Enveloops : This One : B.P.Cult 11. Marco Carola : Pallegio : Plus 8 12. Tractile : Ardorant (Marc Houle Rmx) M_nus 13. Par Grindvik : I Still Do : Drumcode 14. Joel Mull & Sean Palm : Fluffer : Audiomatique Recordings 15. Sean Palm : Pluce : Railyard Recordings 16. Vincent Casanova : Send the Probe : Epsilonlab 17. 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Sat Oct 27 MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE 2 Akron Sat Oct 27 TRIPLE THREAT Detroit Sun Oct 28 DARUDE Dayton Oct-Nov BUZZ LINEUP DC Fri Nov 02 JUNGLE JUICE 8 YR ANNIV Detroit Sat Nov 03 TRANCEFORMERS Akron Sat Nov 08 RAVE RELIGION AND THUMPER Cincinnati Sat Nov 10 21 GUN SALUTE Toronto Sat Nov 10 KONSPIRACY Detroit Sat Nov 10 CLUB PARTY MONSTER Pittsburgh Fri Nov 16 DB Pittsburgh Fri Nov 16 SUBSTANCE Cleveland Sat Nov 17 BOUNCE 3 Pittsburgh Fri Nov 30 HARD BEATZ WITH A VENGEANCE Pittsburgh Sat Dec 01 SCIZOPHRENIA 2 Detroit Mon Dec 31 MAGIC CARPET Detroit Sat Feb 16 TOUGH LOVE Cleveland Jul 18-19, 2008 HULLA REUNION 2008 Toronto varied TROUTS PICKS varied -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Wed Oct 17 FUZZ Pittsburgh Big things continue in the 412 as FUZZ brings you some of the up and coming producers and deejays from here in the states: Dnb duo STYLE CONTROL (aka Will Miles and Kjell Anderson) have been making quite a name for themselves in 2007, producing tracks together as well as separately. Will, just back from his European tour, has a single forthcoming on Fabio's imprint, CREATIVE SOURCE, followed by Kjell's release on the same label. Kjell's POISONOUS E.P. on TRACKDONALDS remains in the top 10 on juno records digital download. myspace.com/theswonz myspace.com/milesahead With local support from: Preslav and Ratana- This duo has been busy at work in the studio as well. They are putting out some very nice tracks surely to be picked up by some labels soon. visit the studio at: InTheMachineAge.com Jungle Jake aka JTS- $5 Cover 21+ 10-12 $1 bottles 4412 Liberty Avenue Pittsburgh, PA 15224 -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Fri Oct 19 LEGENDZ REVENGE Columbus <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-19-legendz_revenge.front.jpg"> <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-19-legendz_revenge.back.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Oct 20 BASE MAGAZINE RELEASE PARTY Cleveland [not to be confused with bassline magazine] <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-20-base_magazine_release.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Oct 20 CHRISTOPHER LAWRENCE Columbus? <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-20-christopher_lawrence.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Oct 20 HOME BASS 2 Pittsburgh Home Bass 2 ~ October 20, 2007 Milano's 111 Market Street Pittsburgh PA 15222 DJ's: Chico NatasK Chris Nature Abduction Aaron Clark Shadowstarr 21+ venue and $5.00 at the door. <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-20-home_bass_2.front.jpg"> <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-20-home_bass_2.back.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Oct 20 MONSTER MASH BOAT CRUISE SW Ohio In the Groove is proud to present "Monster Mash" a halloween costume, birthday celebrating, fundraising boat cruise!!!! We have a lot in store for you this year...We are going to have 4 rooms of sound giving us a capacity of almost 500 people!!! We have invited a couple of other local production companies to join in the fun with us...Lingo Roecodings and Straight Up Entertainment will be hosting their own rooms this year... ------------------------------------------ In the Groove rooms will have: ------------------------------------------ Betamax - Miami Beach - Electro House www.myspace.com/betamaxdj Ai Noyp - Kansas City - House & Progressive tech http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=26689442 Love Between Equals - Cincy - Live Electro House Tease - Cincy - Progressive trance Lady Bandit - Dayton - Breaks Nautigroove - Florence Y'all - Progressive Sounds --------------------------------- Lingo Recordings room: --------------------------------- Lettow & Ice - Cincy - House William Alexander - Cincy - House Nelson - Cincy - House --------------------------------------------- Straight Up Entertainment room: --------------------------------------------- Steve Dizzle - Hills of KY - Hard Electro/House Psych - Richmond KY - Electro DJ Penetration - Cincy - D&B Vinny Bricks - Cincy - Hard Techno/House Typekast - Cincy - Minimal beats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Remember the party goes on rain or shine...The boats are covered...Bring a hoodie in case it gets cold... $15.00 16 & up with ID... 2 fully stocked cash bars on board... 1 bar on the dock before hand We start boarding @ 10;00 and shove off around midnight or at capacity... contact nautigroove with any and all questions... -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Oct 20 RICH KORACH Cleveland Richie Hawtins' favorite tag teammate in Detroit and the head of the Paxahau residents assault team responsible for bringing you the Detroit Electronic Music Festival for the past two years this will be the FIRST appearance in N.E. Ohio for any Paxamember and we are proud to host him. He has played before tens of thousands of people across the globe from Ibiza to Buenos Aires but will be just as comfortable tearing down the ceiling in Touch for us on this amazing night. And of course you'll be getting the best Tek-Know has to offer with support from Downstairs: 11 - 12 - Randomseed [Tek-Know] 12 - 1 Truck Stop Tourist [Tek-Know] 1 - Close Rich Korach [Paxahau | Detroit] Upstairs 10-11:15 - Dan Moore [Tek-Know] 11:15 - 12:30 - Funk Detective [Tek-Know,Touch] 12:30 - Close - John K [Tek-Know,Touch] Library - Konkrete Ohio Jocelyn D [Bassline Magazine, DBE, Chronic Camp,www.jocelyndee.com | Toranto] Stevie P [Collaborations] Robtronix [Konkrete Ohio,Koala-tea] N:Coder [Konkrete Ohio,Vibe Prod ] <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-20-rich_korach.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Oct 20 SHAZZZAM 2 Detroit yo whats up its about that time,I'm throwing another party Sat oct 20th in Detroit.This is the internet promo,to give you an ideal,we are expecting 2-3 thousand people,It will be the best party of the year, I would like to invite you and your crew out personally,I hope you can make it and experience something incredible. Flyers and real detroit ads coming soon Info and directions 313-633-7070 <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-20-shazzzam_2.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Oct 20 THE GROOVE RETURNS SW Ohio <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-20-the_groove_returns.teaser.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Fri Oct 26 FRIGHT HOUSE 5 Pittsburgh <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-26-fright_house_5.front.jpg"> <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-26-fright_house_5.back.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Fri Oct 26 KASKADE Cleveland TRU & DISCO Present: "BRING THE NIGHT TOUR" FEATURING: KASKADE (kaskademusic.com | Ultra Records | San Fran.) Oprning Set Provided By: Evan Evolution (Tru | Disco | Spin Cycle) When: Friday Oct.26.2007 Where: Sinergy Nightclub Address: 1213 West 6th Street (Warehouse District) City: Cleveland State: Ohio Time: 9pm-2:30am Age: 18+ Dress Code: None, Be yourself! TICKET INFO: Pre-Sale Tickets on: www.wantickets.com or Grand Poo-Bas Record Shoppe 11823 Detroit Ave., Lakewood Ohio Limited - $10 | Advance - $15 | Door - $20 VIP tickets also available, check with ticket buying locations. VIP TABLE RESERVATION: E-mail: kasredtr@hotmail.com EVENT INFO: www.myspace.com/tazmo9 www.discoproductions.org www.kaskademusic.com www.wantickets.com <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-26-kaskade.front.jpg"> <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-26-kaskade.back.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Fri Oct 26 MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE PREPARTY Cleveland Pre party line up is: Abduction Trout soup Eric Bliss Van Norman more info to come on that..... myspace.com/future_noise -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Fri Oct 26 SCREAM North Central WV <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-26-scream.front.jpg"> <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-26-scream.back.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Fri Oct 26 SHAME ON YR HELLOWEEN Pittsburgh the halloween edition of the monthly shame on party djs ed um and cutups spin a mix of all kinds of dance music new electro, punk, crunk, new/no wave, rave, mashup +++ space design by thommy conroy $3 cover / 10PM - 2AM / 21+ $3 mixed drink special til 12 Venue: Brillobox 4101 Penn Ave Pittsburgh, PA -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Fri Oct 26 TRICK R TWEAK *cancelled* Lorain **** FROM THE PROMOTER **** canceled due to the owner of the Red Parrot nightclubs has passed **** away, the venue is up in the air now & is out of my hands... Trick 'R Tweak presented by Deep Widdit Productions October 26th, 2007 Doors open @ 9pm 18 + (21 to Drink) ***Drum & Bass::All night*** ***Nice party enviroment with spooky Halloween decor*** ::Halloween Costume Contest:: The winner of this will be bringing a guest to go see DIESELBOY @ TheMetropolis on Friday, November 16th, courtesy of Koala Tea. Arriveearly if you plan on entering! Venue: The Red Parrot 538 Broadway Ave. Lorain, Ohio Line-Up: robtronix sheepdog renaldo danky dave chibbity Cover: $5 - 21+ $7 - under 21 Rules: No bad replicants, no weapons, no bad vibes & no drugs... hunt down a Deep Widdit krew member for pre-sales! http://www.myspace.com/deepwiddit <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-26-trick_r_tweak.front.jpg"> <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-26-trick_r_tweak.back.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Oct 27 CHINATOWN INN HALLOWEEN PARTY Pittsburgh Pittsburgh's most legendary Halloween party is back for it's 7th round of debauchery! This year sees the return of the PeopleNYC crew to provide an extra helping of dancefloor destruction. Please RSVP to this event RSVP Yes Maybe No Comment(s) : SPREAD THE WORD... Blog this Bulletin this Saturday, October 27th, 2007 @ Chinatown Inn Upstairs: Darren Michaels (PeopleNYC) & Matt Monroe (Humanaut) tag set Kenneth:L (PeopleNYC) & Adam Oliveri (Humanaut) tag set Clevr (Breakbeat Militia) Paul Alexander & Aaron Clark tag set (Humanaut) Quartz Marc D Downstairs: DJs GH & Underground (Pittsburgh Underground) Nolan - special hip-hop set (Focused Motives) Rezon8 (Focused Motives) As always, there will be the usual costume contest with cash prizes as well as hor'dourves on the lower level. Please think twice when creating your costume as security will confiscate all dangerous and weapon-like props. Chinatown Inn (Upper floors) 520 3rd Ave Downtown Pittsburgh, PA 15219 Doors open @ 9pm $15 Cover - 21+ w/ ID Info line: 412.248.BOOO http://www.humanaut.net Promotion by: S. Simpson, Humanaut <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-27-7th_chinatown_in_halloween.front.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Oct 27 FREAKOUT 2007 Toronto DESTINY666: FREAKOUT! Saturday, October 27th, 2007 Docks Entertainment Complex www.DESTINY666.com On Saturday, October 27th, Canada's longest running producer of head boppin' leg shakin' body bangn' smile on your face events is back once again to bring you your annual serving of Halloween madness! Destiny Productions will transform the newly sound-proofed and bass enhanced Docks Entertainment Complex into a haunted world filled with sights and sounds beyond your imagination. We will create the ultimate Halloween environment, complete with the most advanced installation of sound, lighting and visuals. Join us as scary techno, death dealing trance, evil jungle and gnarled breaks artists from around the world descend onto the shores of Lake Ontario for this spooktacular annual Halloween event. ON HALLOWEEN - THIS IS THE BIG ONE! Prepare to FREAKOUT harder than ever before! EVENT FEATURES: * - The worlds largest Alpha Dyna Cord sound system bringing you over 100 000 Watts of digital sound! * - The ultimate party environment with our most freaky Halloween decor to date * - The incredible Destiny Light, Video & Laser show you have come to expect! * - Destiny666 Best Costume Contest: Win CASH and guestlist to all Destiny events for a full year! * - Four separate rooms of pounding bass showcasing all styles of electronic music including Drum and Bass, Trance, Jungle, House, Breaks & Techno! * - Multiple, fully stocked VIP drinking areas for the 19+ * - Heated outdoor smoking and chill areas! * - The 'oldskool Destiny vibe' that can't be felt anywhere else! :THE JUNGLE DANCE CAVE: presented by Destiny & Projek ED RUSH & OPTICAL - UK GROOVERIDER - UK MC RYME TYME - UK Mystical Influence Marcus Visionary Capital J Everfresh vs Crash D-Syfa ::MCs:: Caddy Cad MC JD MC Trajady :TERRIFYING TRANCE, HAUNTED HOUSE & FREAKY TECHNO: Presented by Destiny & Terror Inc M.I.K.E. PUSH - UK FILO & PERRY - USA SAM PUNK - Germany THOMAS PENTON - USA THE BEAT FREAKERS - USA DOSE THE ALIEN - USA OS/2 Rex Manning (AKA Unabomber & Mike Conradi) NuEra Walter rosati :PUREPHUNK BREAKS THE BONES ROOM: Hosted by Purephunk Recordings & The Latest Entertainment Group CHEMICAL DJS - Vancouver D-Monic DJ Tasc Dave Saddler Red Turtle Wendy Law DJ Mez :EVIL YET STILL HAPPY HARDCORE: presented by GOODFELAS DELTA 9 - USA Frisky & Hujib Gobs the Zombie Bacchus E.N.d Psyklone Scoots Tyco Virus Xphox vs Tempest DESTINY666 BEST COSTUME CONTEST: Win Cash & Guestlist to everything Destiny & Temporal Rhythm including WEMF for an entire year! Arrive early if you plan on entering the contest! Costume categories and contest details available online @ www.destiny666.com NEED TO BUY OR RENT A COSTUME? We have arranged for special 'destiny discounts' at: Amazing Party & Costume Supply - 923 Oxford St., Etobicoke - 416.259.5959 VENUE : Destiny666: Freakout, will be taking place at The Docks Entertainment Complex 11 Polson St, Downtown Toronto. This location will create the ultimate Halloween environment, complete with the most advanced installation of Sound, Lighting and Visuals you have come to expect from Destiny. * For maps and driving directions please visit www.destiny666.com Driving directions will also be made available on our infoline 24 hours prior to the event. TICKET PRICES: $25 Early Bird (First 200 Tickets @ Numb, Play De Record) $35 Next 666 Tickets $40 Last Minute Tickets More @ Door. DESTINY events are never oversold! Last year's event completely sold out! Avoid disappointment - purchase your tickets in advance! Arrive extra early if paying at the door. ONLY purchase tickets from the official outlets listed on this flyer or the official Destiny website. We will be scanning all tickets for fakes and will not honor counterfit tickets in anyway! SUPPORT THOSE THAT SUPPORT YOU! OS & OV TICKET OUTLETS: CANADA/USA All TICKETMASTER locations across Canada & USA. Charge by phone @ 416.870.8000 or online at www.ticketmaster.ca or www.ticketmaster.com ONLINE only retailers: www.Groovetickets.com www.Ticketbreak.com TORONTO Numb - 250 Queen St W - 416.599.5424 Play De Record - 357A Yonge St - 416.586.0380 Zoam - 2503 Yonge st. - 416.494.8121 Delphic - 706 Queen St W - 416.603.3334 MISSISSAUGA \ ETOBICOKE Unicus - Square One - 905.897.6900 Amazing Party & costume - 923 Oxford St - 416.259.5959 BRAMPTON Highway Bramalea City Centre 905.799.1027 BARRIE Drop The Needle 69 Dunlop St West 705.737.4624 ORANGEVILLE The Altered Native 172 Broadway Ave., Unit #1 519.942.2828 COLLINGWOOD The Altered Native 168 Hurontario St., Unit A 705.445.0228 GEORGETOWN The Altered Native 134 Guelph St., Unit #1 905.877.7884 OAKVILLE Hustler 111 Kerr St. 905.844.1688 HAMILTON Dr. Disc 20 Wilson St. 905.523.1010 ST CATHARINES MIXED STYLES 213 St.Paul St 905 984 4442 KITCHENER Shakedown 276 King St. W 519.570.0440 LONDON >From Mars 347 Talbot Street 519.438.6277 ATTENION: Destiny prides itself on producing the highest quality electronic music events in Canada! We produce these events for a mature audience and therefore do not recommend them for those under 18 years of age. ROAR in effect - If you feel you can contribute to the positive vibe and are at least 16 years of age then you may attend. This event will feature fully stocked, licensed areas for those 19 years of age or older with proper ID. <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-27-freakout_2007.poster.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Oct 27 HOUSE OF THE DEAD Pittsburgh <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-27-house_of_the_dead.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Oct 27 IRENE Columbus? <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-27-irene.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Oct 27 MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE 2 Akron <a href="http://groups.myspace.com/mastersoftheuniverse2">Myspace Group</a> 3 rooms of unbeatable sound and lights... Here is the final line up--- DJ Rectangle vs. Total Eclipse Sykopath DJ Phiction Random(seed) DVS Van Norman Hazey Zone Smartie Roc Dez Drastik Hooty Cubby Vinny Peace Doug B - Encyclopedia Brown - Nox Evasion Anthony Rich Paul B Also, a limited number of presales are available thru me get in touch with me via myspace myspace.com/rainbowjewels $20 presale $25 at the door myspace.com/future_noise for more info. <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-27-masters_of_the_universe_2.front.gif"> <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-27-masters_of_the_universe_2.back.gif"> <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-27-masters_of_the_universe_2.pre.front.jpg"> <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-27-masters_of_the_universe_2.pre.back.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Oct 27 TRIPLE THREAT Detroit The D.E.V.I.L.,Moto,313 Family, and Hardcore 313 present: TRIPLE THREAT Live Performances: Cozmic Spore Techno www.seimicdetroit.com Detroit Cignal To Noise Acid Techno www.planetdetroit.net Detroit Jesse James Min. Techno 313 Family,Night Sneak Detroit Latondrez Techno R.U.G.,313 family Detroit Module 8 Min. Techno EOC Detroit Process 42 Industrial Detroit Sonic Disturbance Tech Breaks EOC Detroit Disc Jockeys: Rob Rage(3 tables) Hard Techno Columbus Tweaker Association Columbus,OH The Disciple Drum & Bass 313 Family,Lockdown Records Detroit,MI DMOND Hard Techno Hardcore 313, 313 Family Detroit ACO Hard Techno Hardcore 313 Detroit Gary G Techno Melodies & Memories Detroit Wafflestomper Hardcore/Freeform Diehard,Hardcore 313 Detroit Damselfly Gabber/Hardcore Hardcore 313 Detroit Dr. Whipple Freeform Hardcore 313 Detroit more TBA...... $10 w/ a costume $15 w/o Located @ Fi Nite Gallery 1370 Plum(corner of Brooklyn & plum) 18+ w/ID to enter Doors 9pm-When the sun comes up HAPPY 50th BIRTHDAY ROB RAGE!!!!! SOUND: DMOND VIDEO GAMES: 313 Family -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sun Oct 28 DARUDE Dayton 10.28.2007 KATE Worldwide proudly presents: Sanctuary @ Masque +The last sunday of every month+ sanc.tu.ary (n) . 1. a place of refuge and protection in a troubled world. This month featuring: DARUDE - Finland His name is synonymous with driving beats and unrelenting energy, has been an innovator in dance music since he smashed his way onto the scene 8 years ago with his global hit track "Sandstorm" which has been featured in almost every facet of EDM Culture. He is back with yet another genre-breaking track, the debut single, .Tell Me., from his upcoming 3rd artist album, .Label This!. which is poised to rock its way up the charts and across the globe. Don.t miss out on this international super star that is sure to incite the imagination of every person in the room & leave you begging for more! Tony DeSaro & Drew Whiteted - Dayton (KATE Worldwide) Phrenzy- Dayton (Rokit Labs, KATE Worldwide) DJ Nostalgic - Dayton (Downtown Ent., KATE Worldwide) Doug Collins - Dayton (KATE Worldwide) Join us on the last sunday of every month at our Sanctuary. A place where you can let your inhibitions run wild & your wildest dreams will manifest before your eyes. With such a troubling world outside we feel it necessary to have a place for people to come to enjoy true EDM culture & truly let go. No rules, no limits, just you & the music. Time 9pm-4am Venue Club Masque *upstairs* 34 N. Jefferson St. Dayton, OH 45424 Admission $5 early bird $10 pre-sale $15 @ the door $20 V.I.P. 18+ to enter 21+ to drink w/ proper I.D. Contact/Info V.I.P. Tables & Tickets: Tony . 937.232.0980 . tony@kateworldwide.net Questions/Promotions: Jon . 937-219-6057 . director@kateworldwide.net Web Support kateworldwide.net myspace.com darude.com byassn.com hmc.fi <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-28-darude.gif"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Oct-Nov BUZZ LINEUP DC <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-xx-buzz_oct-dec.front.jpg"> <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-10-xx-buzz_oct-dec.back.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Fri Nov 02 JUNGLE JUICE 8 YR ANNIV Detroit FRIDAY NOVEMBER 2ND Jungle Juice Productions and Breakloose Present The Jungle Juice 8 Year Anniversary FEATURING: APHRODITE Urban Takeover, Aphrodite Records (UK) Dilemma Jungle Juice Productions/Breakloose (DET) -vs- Ronin Selecta Breakloose, Hydro, Bassdrive (AA) (Special 2 hour old school jump up set) Matt Haggerty Jungle Juice Prod.(San Diego) DJ Seoul Breakloose, D T M, Bang Tech 12 (DET) Exodus Breakloose (TOL) Teddie Breakloose (DET) Nimbus Breakloose (DET) Stonecypher Breakloose, Urban Music Refinery (DET) The Vandal Breakloose (DET) Hosted By Jungle Juices very own original Bad Boy MC PLAY & Breaklooses resident the one they call TEDDY MC Shouts go out to the orignal JJP Crew - Rampage (Matt Hagerty), Petros, & The Rude One Dutch Bwoy Doors @ 9pm 18+ w/ proper ID Cover $10 before midnight FREE JUNGLE JUICE while supplies last @ The Works 1846 Michigan Ave. Detroit, MI -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Nov 03 TRANCEFORMERS Akron <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-11-03-tranceformers.front.jpg"> <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-11-03-tranceformers.back.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Nov 08 RAVE RELIGION AND THUMPER Cincinnati RAVE + RELIGION + THUMPER on nov 8th Body: Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket Thursday November 8th at the "I WILL BEAT YOU TO DEATH" house Riverside, Cincinnati (might be re-located) Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket DJ THUMPER - debut of live laptop/midi set, mash-ups of mainstream pop & rock to hardcore & breakcore beats, next day flying out for the Ravesplotation festival in L.A!!! http://www.myspace.com/thumpallnight MINCEMEAT OR TENSPEED - Philadelphia wild rhythmic noise, hard beats coming outta distortion pedals, he visited Southgate House last July if you caught that one http://www.myspace.com/mincemeatortenspeed NARWHALZ - Richmond gameboy warlord http://www.myspace.com/narwhalsofsound and a co-founder of The Church Of Crystal Light "center for experimental christianity and crafts" http://www.myspace.com/crystallightnoxqsz KYLE H. MABSON - Los Angeles party posse leader, DJ'ing the hottest L.A. events at venues such as The Smell, now chillabrating on an east U.S. tour http://www.myspace.com/kdiddybitches 6pm, write/call for details/directions. -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Nov 10 21 GUN SALUTE Toronto Saturday, November 10, 2007 - 9:00pm to 6:00am Funhaus, 526 Queen St. West $10 advance, $10 @ door for 19+, more at door for under 19 Licensed Area, Concessions, 16+, 2 Rooms LINE UP SC@R B2B UPLIFT - Hardcore [Raw Elements UK, Raindance, History of Hardcore, Eruption 101.3fm - United Kingdom] Chiclet - Hard Trance [djchiclet.com, Viva Nightclub, Purple Heaven - Toronto, Ontario] Station aka: Opel B2B Xofer - Breaks [Embedded Entertainment, xofer.com, Goodfellaz, Deprivation Records - Toronto, Ontario] Saigon B2B Maniak - Drum & Bass [Front Left, Theory, Simpl3 - Toronto, Ontario] Scartat B2B JePh- Mungle W/Locked [De.ranged Entertainment, Biological Beats, Terror Inc., Junction Junglist - Toronto, Ontario] Sprout B2B Impact - Hardstyle [Jitterjaw, De.ranged Entertainment, D.zire Inc., Terror Inc. - Sudbury/Oshawa, Ontario] Dynamic B2B Skye - Happy Hardcore [De.ranged Entertainment, Nocturnal Commissions, Embedded Entertainment - USA.. kinda.] Gabbo - Hard Techno [Hitman Productions, Terror Inc., De.ranged Entertainment - Toronto, Ontario] Evantech - Whatever (House, breaks, ... that funky stuff) [Civil Defense, TSA, De.ranged Entertainment - Toronto, Ontario] George (Who Spins Records) - Happy Hardcore [Nocturnal Commissions, Embedded Entertainment, De.ranged Entertainment - Toronchester, Ontario] Dj Kenezo B2B DJ Tevlon D W/Mc A-Z -Jungle/Drum & Bass [Levitation - Toronto, Ont] Dj King Pin - Ragga Jungle [Ruff Plate Militia, Dub Plate Specialist - Toronto, Ont] Dj Yoshi Mojo W/MC Mensa - Drum & Bass [SolidSoldiers, yoshimojo.multiply.com - Midland] Spin laden ( the turn table terrorist) aka: Madizm - Ragga Jungle [M.U.F.F - Toronto, Ont] INFO @ 6472835474 http://www.myspace.com/derangedentertainment http://www.purerave.com/events/16483 http://www.torontojungle.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15624 -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Nov 10 KONSPIRACY Detroit Saturday, November 10th, 2007 Locked Down Entertainment presents.... K o n s p i r a c y Aaron-Carl Wallshaker Music Wilhelm K D-Version The Disciple Locked Down Ent E. Dubb Wallshaker Music Jesse James Nightsneak Brian Scott DUG Recordings/D-Version DJ Twizzler Drum & Bass Dj Gusto Nightsneak Raskalz Vinyl Vixens The Machinist Motown Depth Shane P Jazzy House Zeroxxx Detour Ent Info: $10 all night Doors open at 9pm til 6am Location: Fi-Nite Gallery 1370 Plum Detroit, MI 48207 <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-11-10-konspiracy.front.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Nov 10 CLUB PARTY MONSTER Pittsburgh <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-11-10-club_party_monster.front.jpg"> <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-11-10-club_party_monster.back.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Fri Nov 16 DB Pittsburgh <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-11-16-db.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Fri Nov 16 SUBSTANCE Cleveland A Koala-tea and B.A.D. Ass. Collaboration. Friday November 16th, 2007 "Substance" Featuring... Dieselboy Human // www.djdieselboy.com Punisher Detroit // Hej records // Seismic Terry Urban Cleveland // www.terryurban.com Still Life Cleveland // Grand Poo Bas DVS Pittsburgh // B.A.D. Ass // Koala-Tea // Phoenix Mgmt Truck Stop Tourist (Andy James and 1 Auxy) Akron // Tek-Know // Re(vision) // BerettaMusic // Lovethang Vinny Peace Cleveland // B.A.D. Ass Robtronix Cleveland // Koala-Tea // B.A.D. Ass Nox Cleveland // Koala-Tea Damien Cleveland // Koala-Tea // Mercury Lounge Abduction w/ MC Barrenzemo Youngstown & Dubois // B.A.D. Ass. // Fever // 40oz Casualties Grasshoppa Cleveland // 02 Radio // Koncrete Ohio Greg Zorn Cleveland // Jam Solid Nocturnal Akron // O.P.C. Hosted by. MC Infinity Akron // Koncrete Ohio // New Ascension // TSK // B.A.D. Ass Admission: $10 Limited // $15 Advance // $20 Door Age Restrictions: +18 to Enter // +21 to Drink Hours: 10PM . 4AM Advance tickets: www.groovetickets.com Grand Poo Bas Records 11823 Detroit Ave. Lakewood, Ohio 44107 (216) 521-9177 www.poo-bas.com Wanna be a VIP? "Get Spotted. in Spot Cleveland.s own VIP section! VIP includes NO wait in line, VIP mezzanine access, and FREE after party admission. VIP: $25 Venue: Metropolis Nightclub 2325 Elm Street Cleveland, OH 44113 Websupport: www.koala-tea.com www.brokeassdjs.com www.clevelandnightlife.net www.spotcleveland.com <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-11-16-substance.2.jpg"> <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-11-16-substance.front.jpg"> <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-11-16-substance.back.jpg"> <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-11-16-substance.pre.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Nov 17 BOUNCE 3 Pittsburgh <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-11-17-bounce_3.front.jpg"> <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-11-17-bounce_3.back.jpg"> <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-11-17-bounce_3.pre.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Fri Nov 30 HARD BEATZ WITH A VENGEANCE Pittsburgh [fucking a awesome] Spirits of Change This is gonna be crazy !!!!! Spirits of Change brings you Hard Beatz with a Vengeance Friday November 30, 2007 Featuring Brisk-Hardcore (UK) DVS -hard house- Tika vs. Leash -hardcore- Vinny Peace-hard techno- Jake the Snake -jungle funk- Hooty -speed garage- More info coming soon! <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-11-30-hard_beatz_with_a_vengeance.front.2.jpg"> <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-11-30-hard_beatz_with_a_vengeance.back.2.jpg"> <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-11-30-hard_beatz_with_a_vengeance.front.jpg"> <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-11-30-hard_beatz_with_a_vengeance.back.jpg"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Dec 01 SCIZOPHRENIA 2 Detroit Schizophrenia II Saturday December 1 2007 Detroit MI USA Celebrating ten years of psonic psychosis. Featuring: Noize Creator >> Live // Suburban Trash // Dresden, Germany For fifteen years Noize Creator has, justifiably, reigned as one of the Kingz Of Noize. His performances are legendary... ask anyone who was around in '99 when he laid waste to legions of the midwest faithful at Even Furthur. He's released dozens of records on highly regarded labels like SixSixtySix, Surgeon16, Brutal Chud, and his own Suburban Trash. We're proud to present a live set by one of the most influential and enduring figures in contemporary electronic music - Noize Creator. Davros vs Unibomber >> >> The Final Amiga 500 Battle Live // Low Res, Addict, Distort // Madison, Chicago Davros (aka Abelcain) is one of the most ferociously creative people in experimental music. He built an entire release out of Dr. Who samples and composed a suite for harpsichord! Davros returns to his Amiga 500 roots to face off against his arch-nemesis, the dreaded Unibomber, with whom a legendary battled was waged at the original Schizophrenia in 1997. In case you don't remember, Unibomber supplied classic cuts of midwest hardcore, including Sadist and Alcoholic, to the early Distort releases... then quietly disappeared into the darkness. Now he's back to settle the score in an 8-bit grudge match 10 years in the making! Doormouse >> Addict, Distort, Sublight // Miami Since releasing his first record on Digital Hut in 1996, Doormouse has provided a nonstop barrage of retard beats and farting sounds. During the last decade he tore shit up at Schizophrenia, unleashed the Addict family of record labels on the world, made the barn famous, fronted the infamous MEAT project and released albums on Cock Rock Disco, Planet-mu, Violent Turd, Sublight and Hymen! He also moved to Miami.... Oh well, nobody's perfect. From the heart of the Midwest, via the penis shaped state in the south, comes the one man David Lee Roth cover band who furnished every home with Skelechairs. DJ Fishead >> Northern Hardcorps // Montreal He was from Winnipeg before anyone had heard of the place, and left before most could find it on a map. Ever the musical explorer, Fishead has had a techno radio show in Barcelona, been part of an audio listening installation in Oklahoma City and brought his own brand of chaos wherever he's set down his record bag. The man who brought Canadian hardcore to the Midwest, and the founder of the Northern Hardcorps, we welcome the return of Schizophrenia veteran Fishead. Xanopticon >> Live // Thac0, Zhark, Hymen // Pittsburgh Just when it would defy the laws of physics for the sound to become any more brutal or simultaneously intricate, Pittsburgh's globe-trotting Xanopticon jacks in and blasts off, sucker-punching your soul while destroying your mind... and to think, he's downed twice as many Chimays. Fanny >> Live // Sublight, Girlcum // Winnipeg It's a prairie home invasion! Since taking time out to explain fear and loathing for dummies, Fanny has been using his own manufactured madness to inflict awareness on unenlightened masses worldwide. Once known for being a former member of The Exploited, the Glasgow tempest in a teapot is now better known for being his own damn self - the original Shoebomb Hurricane! Cutups >> Wrecked, Thac0, Rhinoplex // Pittsburgh Long before there was Wrecked Distribution, there was PBS - a handful of nuts that brought some of the giants of the scene through Pittsburgh. No one really knows what the letters stood for, but we all came to realize that PBS meant Pittsburgh Breakcore Shows. Over the past decade Cutups has increased his stature and become a giant himself. On December first, he takes a break from making sure people can get the music into the comfort of their own homes and steps behind the decks to feed you what you truly need. In Broken Key >> Live // No Room For Talent // Akron It's not day, and it's not night - it's kinda half-night - and I'm scared like I can't tell ya. There's a broken lamp, a piano ashtray, a blue box and a strange key, and that voice inside is telling me that something bad is happening... and then it hits me. It's him - the man behind this place. He's the one that's been doing it all along. Now comes the time to bear witness - the rise of In Broken Key. Adjust >> Low Res // Detroit Low Res has released some of the most fiercely original electronic music the world has ever seen - all under the watchful eye of Adjust. He's been digging up the best of electronic underground for near ten years, and by taking chances on artists that showed promise he's built a back catalog that reads like a who's who of today's scene! Where would we be without 7evens by Venetian Snares or, god forbid, the Faust EP by Abelcain? Representing the motorcity... Detroit's own Adjust. $10, underground venue, all night Make it a weekend & hit up the Friday night pre-party with c64! >> A fixture on the Toronto underground scene and co-operator of Splinter Productions, c64 has been instrumental in the development of breakcore and left-field DnB in Toronto, staging numerous events over the past 7 years featuring international and local artists. Respected for his absolute devotion to the music and humble approach to the dj`ing, c64 continues to push forward in his performance-based pursuit of creative, challenging and energetic dance music. Come rock out with c64 and the FromTheGut team, and get reduced entry to the main event the following night! $5, underground venue, til 3 AM Take a step back in time with Schizophrenia veteran DJ Fishead and read what this thing is all about. http://schizophrenia.c8.com/history.html Need a ride, or have one to offer? Post carpool / ride-share requests and offers for people in your city and cities along the way at the Schizophrenia event forum. Also let people know if you're going, discuss sharing lodgings (more info on that soon), and anything else related. http://c8.com/c8/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=35 For more info, or to help spread the word, get flyers, etc, contact us by email at schizo2007@gmail.com <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/07-12-01-schizophrenia_2.gif"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Mon Dec 31 MAGIC CARPET Detroit R.U.G. & The D.E.V.I.L. present: MAGIC CARPET 12/31/07 in Beatiful Detroit city Michigan Featuring: Brill(live pa) Drum & Bass Mad At Society Rec. Las Vegas,NV COZMIC SPORE(live pa) Acid Techno www.seismicdetroit.com Detroit,MI Tim Baker House Elephant Haus, www.planetdetroit.net Detroit,MI Other family favorites: Dj Seoul Electro Bang Tech 12,DTM,Breakloose Detroit Red Pill: Blue Pill(live pa) Acid Techno www.planetdetroit.net, 313 Family Detroit,MI Ben Wu Techno/House/Electro Bang Tech 12 Indianapolis,IN MD! w/ Teddy MC Drum & Bass www.nefarious.net,Dluv Detroit,MI The Disciple Drum & Bass 313 Family, Locked down Records Detroit,MI Wataru(3 tables,2 hours!) Techno Mad At Society Rec. Detroit,MI DMOND Vs. ACO(2 hours) Hard Techno Moto,313 Family,Hardcore 313 Detroit,MI Jesse James(live pa) Min. Techno Nightsneak Ent. Detroit,MI Uncontent(live pa & DJ) Dirty Sleazy Electro 313 Family,Mad At Society Rec. Detroit/Las Vegas,NV TS 1 Techno www.planetdetroit.net Detroit,MI Hammer Brothers(live pa) Techno www.planetdetroit.net Detroit,MI Wax Drum & Bass 313 Family,Shadowbeat Detroit,MI Donald Wahn Freeform/Hardcore Hardcore 313 Detroit,MI Damselfly Gabber/Hardcore Hardcore 313 Detroit,MI VENUE INFO TO BE POSTED ON OCTOBER 27th... Doors 9pm-6am 18+w/ID to enter $10 before midnight $15 after.$5 off with out of state ID or if you come from Ann Arbor,Kzoo,GR areas or any further north than Flint....Your ID must prove this....Info:313 721 3673 THIS IS ONLY THE BEGINNING OF THIS LINEUP....We LOVE YOU DETROIT!! -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Feb 16 TOUGH LOVE Cleveland <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/08-02-16-tough_love.front.gif"> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Jul 18-19, 2008 HULLA REUNION 2008 Toronto [probably the opera house. a wonderously shittastic venue] Hullabaloo reunion 2008!!! :) Yes! there will be a Hulla next summer www.hulla.info The next Hullabaloo reunion date is the weekend of July 18th and 19th, 2008. It's hard to argue with how fast tickets sold out for OMGH, but the party itself was such a critical and emotional success we decided to seize the left over feelings in the air and mark that date for a future reunion party. Hulla will forever be officially .over. but it was really nice to revisit it, as well as welcome a whole new generation of Hulla Ravers into the fold and we look forward to doing it one more time. The other thing is that Hullabaloo has turned into a global party, attracting patrons from all over the world, so it seemed prudent to let people start making their plans now since there could be significant investment by some in getting here. More details about the party and weekend won.t be made until early 2008, but after talking to many patrons about their need to plan ahead I.ve come up with an optional way to hold a ticket for the next event. Announcing the Hulla Friend Membership. - $25 discount off our 2008 reunion event tickets! (So ultimately you pay nothing) - Tickets for Hulla Friends go on sale ONE WEEK before regular availability (no mayhem on ticket day) - 20% discount code for all Hullabaloo box sets from the HullaStore (not including OMGH or DVD). - Special mailing list that will keep you updated on all Hulla event news - You will get sent a link to the new flyer 24 hours before it goes public (expected Feburary 2008). The price is $25, which as noted is deducted from your ticket purchase when they go on sale. There.s also some more free bonuses: If you buy your Hulla Friend Membership with the OMGH and/or Hulla DVD you get 2 FREE BONUS CDs (a $30 value!): Anabolic Frolic live @ Hullabaloo Accelerator - This was a test run for a "Happy2bHardcore LIVE" project that never saw release. A complete pro-tools live audience recording putting you right into the party. This set was also notable since it contained the Frolics' baby announcement! Anabolic Frolic @ MC Storm live @ Hullabaloo WEMF Stage 2002. The last ever Hulla stage at WEMF went down in history with Frolic & Storm together again, and the famous marriage proposal at the end of the set! Both these CDs are out of print and this is your only way to get them. They're yours free (a $30 value!) for anyone adding a Hulla Friend Membership to their OMGH box set and/or DVD order. Only a limited number of Hulla Friend Memberships will be sold and this offer can be rescinded at any time. It's not our intention to sell-out next year's Hullabaloo reunion before tickets even go on sale so we will cut these off at any time. But for those of you that get in before they're gone you're getting a great value and you can mark next year's date off the calendar knowing you've got a head start on tickets. We.ll also be using a new ticketing system for next year.s event which won.t falter under the volume of orders, so we expect tickets to sell out even faster (in hours, or even minutes?), so this will give you some breathing room. Hulla Friend Memberships go on sale tomorrow (August 2nd) at the HullaStore, along with pre-orders of the OMGH box set of recordings and Hulla DVDs -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- varied TROUTS PICKS varied trout's picks,,,,, these are a list of random things that aren't really rave/"electronica" related but might be fun in any event. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Madison Ave Art Walk (Cleveland) On Friday, October 5, 2007, MAMA(Madison Avenue Merchants Association) in conjunction with Lakewood Is Art (LIA) will launch it.s first ever MAMA LIA Art Walk. The Walk will begin at 6pm and go through 10pm. What is an Art Walk? An art walk is an event enjoyed in many communities around the country. It is a designated day and time that galleries and art studios, shops and restaurants, all join forces to create a extraordinary time for visitors to go from place to place feasting both their eyes and their taste buds as they stroll through town enjoying the best of what is offered by its artists. Local restaurants may offer Art Walk specials. Street corners and shops feature entertainment treats such as musicians and singers, jugglers and poets. It is also a splendid occasion to purchase interesting pieces of art at very affordable prices.The Art Walk process is simple . proceed at your own pace, wander into galleries and businesses that capture your fancy, stroll around a delightful area punctuated by, historic architecture, restaurants, quaint businesses and more. How do I do the Art Walk? Come to Madison Avenue and pick up a Art Walk Guide, available at all participating shops and restaurants. The guide has a map locating all the featured art exhibits. And off you go! Begin anywhere, go in any order you like, visit as many as you like. All exhibits and entertainment are free of charge. Signage at the entrance to each exhibit will indicate audience age appropriateness. For advance information regarding specific exhibits, which for updates to our website! What can I expect from this Art Walk? Be prepared to be surprised by the wide array of artistic styles that are represented this evening in businesses," from landscapes to cutting-edge contemporary, from paintings to pottery. The Art Walk will keep you on your cultural toes!An Art Walk is also a great place to "people watch." Sure, artists may be "guested" at individual "gallery" receptions, or demonstrating their work, but the art-walking public itself offers up a wide slice of life, a mix of locals and visitors of all kinds.Art Walk participants in cities from Tremont to Toronto, often plan an entire evening that combines an Art Walk with a foray for drinks, dining or the theater. So, complete your evening with a visit to one of the many eateries, or clubs. Join the fun, become part of the Madison Avenue art scene, and Art Walk with us! If you would like to participate as an artist, a performer or a volunteer, contact rkoenigsmark@yahoo.com or call 216.521.2894 --------------------------------------------------------------------- zombiefest 2007 - oct 27-28 http://www.theitsaliveshow.com/Zombiefest2007.htm --------------------------------------------------------------------- april 4-8, 2008 - http://www.notacon.org/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- armageddicon III - http://animepunch.org/ -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- compiled, but not necessarily current, as of Thu Oct 18 07:13:01 EDT 2007. -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90535-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 18 14:54:56 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90535-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5398 invoked by uid 1162); 18 Oct 2007 14:54:56 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5372 invoked from network); 18 Oct 2007 14:54:55 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=94fwYpgx/57jhCg+OjVZ4+I9JTe5ZjTIV/ZcAxyhydY=; b=Y2OYh66aK5G/THzki708jlpjeRg5E7qka1++1InTFNYxCRcquXnj6H9uokXFSz014RsfBxAAsiwFIROkJUqpATJn/MiTaKH+YGFR/5cdNh7+SmhHS0icIAxAgTGXMKtDlPd+mc2UrqlkJ75zjM9ioaxAB+//jpTJDj6QxVlwZOQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Hi31wEVDg5EAxNXT5GAjXV+e3CqMGnkLNCfYpnc+t/aGARlhNrb3QplDulFGi6skJ8152fIB0nmh7nSmk9LoskZS4TzUgai0eANhcvQ9W5WMo6PS0I4fcRZ2hrAzlEYtq9k8q2wR1L9QNoW8zpdlPhdjR5iDX7TLwZOUnGobClY= Message-ID: <5a9dc0d60710180754v2bdc0bf1wcd0a82fe16a8124c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 10:54:53 -0400 From: "Jeremy Bible" <experimedia@gmail.com> To: "PB CLE Raves" <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: {pb-cle} Three unique live recordings from Spec.Dev (Jeremy Bible & Jason Henry) Collaboration Chronicles : Three unique live performances were recorded over the last year each differing stylistically. A fourth set again unique in style and content was recorded 2007.10.13 during our performance on WRUW 91.1 in Cleveland. We are very excited about this latest direction and feel like it is what we were looking for all along. This will be our direction as we to retire into the studio for the winter season to record our debut studio album. This evolution in sound has also prompted us to reconsider our collaborative project stage name and have decided to simply go by "Jeremy Bible & Jason Henry". Below are the three downloadable performance recordings that led up to the current state of our collaborative direction. Date : 2007-12-08 Location : Cleveland Museum of Contemporary Arts : CLEVELAND, OHIO, USA Description : Performing as Databasis Basics this was our first collaborative live performance. Stylistically this performance falls primarily within the vein of "minimal" techno. Neither of us having laptops at the time, the performance was done off of one single core computer running a single abelton live set displayed on two 19in flat panel monitors. For control we utilized several controllers between the two of us including a Novation X-Station, two Evolution UC-33s, an Evolution UC-16, an M-Audio Trigger Finger, and two custom painted usb qwerty keyboards. The soundsystem and monitoring situation was crap. It was an interesting learning experience to say the least. 2006-12-08-Databasis_Basics-live@ClevelandMOCA http://spec.dev.experimedia.net/live/2006-12-08-Databasis_Basics-live@ClevelandMOCA.mp3 Date : 2007-02-10 Location : High Tek Soul @ The View presented by Tek-Know? : CLEVELAND, OHIO, USA Description : Performing as Databasis Basics again this was our second collaborative live performance. After our performance at MOCA in December we made a drastic stylitic shift almost without realizing it. We simply started playing with different ideas and went with the flow during our "jam sessions" and ended up with the following sound that combined several influences from Autechre style electronica mixed with some dubstep aspects. The day of we ran into many hiccups starting first thing in the morning. Being a cold winter static filled day two power sources on two different pc's went on the fritz. Jason had recently acquired a dual-core laptop and the plan was to play on two synced machines. After the hardware failures Jeremy went out, purchased a dual-core laptop that day, set it up and installed the necessary software. However with our desktop machines on the fritz I had no way to get my data off of my internal SATA drive. After calling some friends and local stores our final solution was to stop at my place of employment on the way to Cleveland and throw the drive into one of the SATA compatible desktops to retreive the data. It was crazy...we were tweeking the laptop, installing software, the whole ride up, and even at the venue we had to use their net access to get one more peice of software that slipped our minds. To our surprise we managed to get everything together to go through with our performance although when it came time to perform we had lost communication to one of our outboard synths requireing us to cut out a couple tracks we had hoped to perform. All in all another great learning experience. Sound was pretty good...our heavy low end parts had the place shaking. 2007-02-10-Databasis_Basics-live@HighTekSoulCleveland http://spec.dev.experimedia.net/live/2007-02-10-Databasis_Basics-live@HighTekSoulCleveland.mp3 Date : 2007-09-14 Location : Opening for Thomas Dolby @ The Tangier : AKRON, OHIO, USA Description : Once again a shift in style further towards a more experimental electronica sound. Also a name change to Spec.Dev. This was actually the second time we had performed this set under the new guise. The first time being at Tek-Know's ReVision at the Lime Spider. However we only managed to record a short period of that set. A strange show indeed opening for Thomas Dolby and at an upscale joint. The sound was fantastic though...a fantastic acoustic space...the best we had played on yet. 2007-09-14-Spec.Dev-live@ThomasDolbyAkron http://spec.dev.experimedia.net/live/2007-09-14-Spec.Dev-live@ThomasDolbyAkron.mp3 NOW.......................... Date : 2007-10-13 Location : Live on WRUW 91.1 FM Case Western Reserve's radio station : CLEVELAND, OHIO, USA Description : Our latest style shift has taken us even further into minimalistic experimental sounds utilizing an even larger amount of found sound field/phonography recordings due in part to our growing interest in the works of classical experimental and musique concrete pioneers such as Luc Ferrari, Pascal Comlade, Pierre Henry, Francois Bayle, Stockhausen along with modern experimental counterparts such as Alva Noto, Nurse With Wound, Daniel Menche, Richard Chartier, and many more. Out of all our performances this one by far was the most relaxed, rewarding, and natural feeling performance experience thus far. The monitoring situation was great and content wise we were very happy with the results of this new direction while listening to the recording during the car ride home. We are not prepared to share this recording publicly yet as it will function as the basis of our studio album(s?). We will however be performing a very similar set on 2007-10-18 at The Grog shop in Cleveland opening for Digitalism. This will be our last performance for the season before focusing our attention towards strictly studio based efforts. A crazy but educational first year working together. ||||||Additional download : Ableton Live Machine's used for the MOCA set. http://spec.dev.experimedia.net/kit/dbbMachines.zip contains two ableton live .adg files. These are the two main machines we built and used at the MOCA set. dbbBassMachine.adg is a bass machine with a bunch of arps, note lengths, two instances of operator, and some fx to tweek and get some funky, crazy, and dissonant bass lines out of....its pretty diverse and tweekable. Toggle between different arps lengths, speeds, and note lenghts to get crazy variations on the same pattern. dbbDrumMachine.adg is a crazy drum machine we built that has 8 or 9 impulses in a rack. Just build a kit into each impulse and use the pitch knob in intervals of 12 to dial between the drum kits. Then each kit has midi muters too. Just dig through the rack heirarchy to discover some crazy tweekability and control. The random function is nice for adding some breaks to the beat. With pitch you can offset your sounds at non multiple of 12 intervals for some interesting breaks as well. Excellent machine for live beat tweeking. You can turn a single midi drum pattern into several different beats and rhythms by just turning various knobs. -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90536-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 19 18:55:45 2007 Return-Path: <pb-cle-raves-return-90536-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org> Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13306 invoked by uid 1162); 19 Oct 2007 18:55:43 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org> X-list-unsubscribe: <mailto:pb-cle-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> X-list-post: <mailto:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13283 invoked from network); 19 Oct 2007 18:55:43 -0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.3.6.070618 Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 14:55:26 -0400 From: joshua_goltz <josh@innerchild.biz> To: "pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org" <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org> Message-ID: <C33E75E9.1264E%josh@innerchild.biz> Thread-Topic: FRIGHT HOUSE 5 >>> FRI. OCT., 26 @ Z:LOUNGE! Thread-Index: AcgSgZwn2qF/Q350EdyIlQAUUQN7Tg== Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3275650537_114855432" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: {pb-cle} FRIGHT HOUSE 5 >>> FRI. OCT., 26 @ Z:LOUNGE! --B_3275650537_114855432 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -- Joshua J. 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--=20 Joshua J. Goltz | President & Founder Inner Child Productions & Artist Management | Pittsburgh, PA www.innerchild.biz --B_3275650537_114855432-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90537-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 19 19:32:18 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 43335 invoked by uid 1162); 19 Oct 2007 19:32:17 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: X-list-unsubscribe: X-list-post: X-files: scully! 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From pb-cle-raves-return-90538-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 19 23:26:59 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21258 invoked by uid 1162); 19 Oct 2007 23:26:58 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: X-list-unsubscribe: X-list-post: X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21239 invoked from network); 19 Oct 2007 23:26:58 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=G9YsrzirweLhU14qg+hffuYKGIt/XnVnPaUklmH7sd0=; b=UgbaUqbewsvF5e4mMcm+KoyhC2l7o3L5jXRCUQBnwDPDZSbCVRktI1cSKe+AOgNMpd3/ZTPmV27OzbGZ4Og/ucRSDMFRmKHTOWlA0pbDQteRLgniytfzNQHonry2sx8aAOIcl6sifQbYWxkqVSZryieAkwi3C5/rT3yhQneQOr4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=mfq0KU0srtt1DDjbNw+U/wnxGYhqAo5wizQbK16Xsk/ua54QbUr6+Bqe5DZnkR+dDmOoyuXT3y4oYKLDvku7ducrC/r1HItcgsXdscou+qTM4NMFggeUZQhqy3sG3B0YUW41WeEBf1gfM8njw1a6QDVLp2BjZKmSL7w1fvk/hUI= Message-ID: <5a9dc0d60710191619o46eb40c4tcfeae0f3c15f4e66@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 18:19:38 -0500 From: "Jeremy Bible" To: "PB CLE Raves" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: {pb-cle} call to video artists in NE Ohio (avantgarde/abstract) Jeremy Bible & Jason Henry are seeking a video artist in the NE Ohio area who's work would compliment our avant-garde sounds for a/v releases and future performances. We are looking for someone who would be seriously dedicated to working on collaborative projects with us. If you would have any interest please touch base with us and we can send you private links to our current sound projects. Our music is avant-garde in style that could might described as the following... ambient / minimal / microsound / experimental / musique concrete Our sound brings together electronic, acoustic, and field recorded sources into abstract sound collages. While we both have some video/visual abilities ourselves we find it difficult to do it all ourselves and would find it ideal to find a third like minded individual to collaborate with whose primary focus would be of a visual nature. We of course would be very interested in crossing the lines of each others roles and contributing visual ideas and vice versa with said collaborator. We are currently working on a full length studio album and would find it ideal to have a visual contributor to a cd/dvd audio visual release and to manipulate and mix visuals live at performances as we do with audio. Potential collaborators may contact us at info@experimedia.net -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90539-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 19 23:42:55 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 30510 invoked by uid 1162); 19 Oct 2007 23:42:55 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: X-list-unsubscribe: X-list-post: X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 30489 invoked from network); 19 Oct 2007 23:42:53 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=G5Zfg6oYTXCV7ZYY27gL2FKPzK4nExXyoITHNmcSP5Y=; b=i1wnWBVa7JctCgYKZwJKILOT4lh83K8EmJW4PlE3JzhC+rAVw4iNvzPGQrM25WcmKZ2DsXUFnCSC8SOUKBxt+TCQhrZZY4TvF87eoAXMJ6aDEXsINdPMKsmbuRdxbXoN2c0IxVmOEgXkPKRIlPTN97HZI0HD0QE44baglaYHMFw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=sLr/7jLbaLZUaUwKf8TX9y11I8ZgYFPzMHf9YMFM0NE3w2ruqhkqi1mBrlZ7KyUFvmWf3TdjBxC+H6rP/k34CADs7u8rkYRqcVy5aVTXvl238D/J+bjauW/MFShVvHz1VIk0JwVfUtfHkhuNWDFnSsv0c7LAjfeqHcSHzcPFxMU= Message-ID: <5714e9010710191636o386ad359maabc3a5b640199d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 19:36:01 -0400 From: "Jessica Leigh" To: "Adam Ratana" Cc: "Doug Burkhart" , pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <8cf533f0710041228y33b5fbdbsd3f71fead425e1e5@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <8cf533f0710041212y56ee1c05qc11c508ae27b0bcf@mail.gmail.com> <010b01c806bc$ae5c4500$4301a8c0@checkout> <8cf533f0710041228y33b5fbdbsd3f71fead425e1e5@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} Canada sour puss!! :p On 10/4/07, Adam Ratana wrote: > I mean I'm not saying he should leave by any long stretch... just that > we not be his personal sounding board for whatever random thoughts... > But maybe at this stage of the game any list activity > none? > > On 10/4/07, Doug Burkhart wrote: > > > > > > I vote that jungle alien stays, if we are voting. > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Ed Rodgers > > To: Adam Ratana > > Cc: XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com ; pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org > > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 3:25 PM > > Subject: Re: {pb-cle} Canada > > > > > > i am actually kind of enjoying it... > > > > at least he/she (no known gender who is the jungle alien) is tlaking about > > inner monologue dealing with somewhat rave related posts. > > > > crossing the border to canada is rave related. > > > > how you stopped jnnnx and his ohpeeuum trade isnt, which is why it's good > > that other guy is not posting on here anymore. > > > > i mean, at least jungle alien responds somewhat to what someone is talking > > about... > > > > Someone: "yes, it was made on a moog synthesizer" > > Jungle Alien: "Shit dog, i met this guy once and his name was moog, he had > > these really cool eyes and the techno in his trunk made my ears > > smile...kthx" > > > > disjunctive, but eerily still somewhat related. > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/4/07, Adam Ratana wrote: > > > Can you stop using the list as your inner thought process please > > > > > > On 10/4/07, XxXJuNgLALieNXxX@aol.com wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Well it looks like in 8 years I can pay $1000 and apply for an > > application > > > > for rehabilitation......Do they check every single person that crosses > > > > now...So I have no chance of getting lucky and just driving through > like > > I > > > > always did before? Does every person have to fill out a declaration? > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Adam Ratana > > > adam.ratana@gmail.com > > > > > > -- > > > you fucked polka royalty? > > > did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Adam Ratana > adam.ratana@gmail.com > > -- > you fucked polka royalty? > did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? > > -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90540-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Oct 20 17:26:19 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 69673 invoked by uid 1162); 20 Oct 2007 17:26:18 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: X-list-unsubscribe: X-list-post: X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 69656 invoked from network); 20 Oct 2007 17:26:17 -0000 Message-ID: <3865.67.163.218.153.1192900480.squirrel@webmail.chemlab.org> Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 13:14:40 -0400 (EDT) From: "Denae" To: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.5.1 [CVS] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: {pb-cle} 7th Annual Chinatown Inn Halloween Party | 10.27.07 I Pgh Saturday, October 27th, 2007 @ Chinatown Inn Pittsburgh's most legendary Halloween party is back for it's 7th round of debauchery! This year sees the return of the PeopleNYC crew to provide an extra helping of dancefloor destruction. Upstairs: Darren Michaels (PeopleNYC) & Matt Monroe (Humanaut) tag set Kenneth:L (PeopleNYC) & Adam Oliveri (Humanaut) tag set Clevr (Breakbeat Militia) Paul Alexander & Aaron Clark tag set (Humanaut) Quartz MarcD Downstairs: DJs GH & Underground (Pittsburgh Underground) Nolan - special hip-hop set (Focused Motives) Rezon8 (Focused Motives) As always, there will be the usual costume contest with cash prizes as well as hor'dourves on the lower level. Please think twice when creating your costume as security will confiscate all dangerous and weapon-like props. Chinatown Inn (Upper floors) 520 3rd Ave Downtown Pittsburgh, PA 15219 Doors open @ 9pm $15 Cover - 21+ w/ ID Info line: 412.248.BOOO www.humanaut.net Promotion by S. Simpson, Humanaut www.humanaut.net -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? 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Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 37876 invoked from network); 20 Oct 2007 23:20:28 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=uK5vODHdiuP+NKaW6LqiBX+X1RnIZX+3t5183+OOnG0=; b=WQg318w5OLaG3Q7l3REp2LrnAfaSrxbAGxjqWnjWG53wdkvxiIwJTCEPemnUIKoBGs6P2bUlR3UH/SiHasjDoejgH1xwodW6nhiS2a1Xq96abGOS+5dff77eXS15E8IMZ4gKiiBqesRLXSzhaQ3wKAl3/12DFCJUBUyb243pRRE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=p4LyM799svMqjt7ODJ9O1hfI8kl//w2y+co+mvAsDTGcixhlek9CgJJ9ncb+eK+l0xkZSNiDBuXP/awla16SGgtuR9VLy0mokdyXXOLmd7A+5IU93LURtXZMHKv3gc50nPEoUSRdqisR6iQJCwNAae7lMVyP6G/Nvr4tceuYsmI= Message-ID: <5714e9010710201620w59e9fcd7y50cb1c9dd70f1eee@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 19:20:25 -0400 From: "Jessica Leigh" To: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: {pb-cle} don - wizardworkshop can someone pls put me into contact with him. thanks!! =) -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90542-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Oct 21 05:21:27 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 89145 invoked by uid 1162); 21 Oct 2007 05:21:26 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: X-list-unsubscribe: X-list-post: X-files: scully! 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a great amount of cocaine is trafficked into the count= ry by the help of the us airforce in colorado springs, colorado. there all = the rich people who have jets or whatever aircraft fly it to their own citi= es to be redistributed.

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a greater part of all lsd is being manufactured at the= university of california berkeley campus in california.
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almost all of the county's supply of ecstasy is being = trafficked into the country thru the loose borders of the united states and= canada from vancouver, canada to redmond washington which just happens to = be the headquarters of the company with more money than god himself and lik= es to ship things out in little boxes to all kinds of people who are forced= to buy their shitty software products. also known as microsoft. wanna get = rid of a bunch of ecstasy???? go blow up microsoft..
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fuck you bill gates. you never paid me back that 5 bucks i loane= d you to get out of a parking ticket you fucking alien piece of shit.
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= http://mail.yahoo.com --0-478335123-1192944998=:18508-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90549-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Oct 21 05:41:42 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 96452 invoked by uid 1162); 21 Oct 2007 05:41:42 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: X-list-unsubscribe: X-list-post: X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 96435 invoked from network); 21 Oct 2007 05:41:41 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 776159.82040.bm@as608.mail.sp1.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=yHkO80m9MWOorRljRTeD5kO6dX/xF0DrAeosvag9TUFKNYERTJuBuXc01WG3vjY5Xa12sqBXEavCxfH9RLprAf7g3dtt+BzknXwgFZelkUoYlmztw43fsy5guaH6m2kBaUCaKQZgkDW7YV5bZpSQo0FYH8C+GYlVjfECqSAGRHk=; X-YMail-OSG: 0kM8ThIVM1m3kV_IrjN_Epjwmu6._Num3nA1F8SzG102Gwwl_bAE6KArBdWd2E3Zy6KY1JrYJ8UbDO6bbR9mjt3c9w-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/814.06 YahooMailWebService/0.7.134.12 Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 22:41:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Destein To: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2067374245-1192945300=:68360" Message-ID: <591715.68360.qm@web45512.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: {pb-cle} meth report part 2 --0-2067374245-1192945300=:68360 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable most of the crystal meth in the country is being produced by biker gangs in= the middle of nowhere.=0Athey then transport it to the carnival operators = at travelling circuses and freakshows and whatnot.=0A=0Athen local pieces o= f shit come to the fair all the fucking time, for god knows what purpose ex= cept to get their feet chopped off by shitty mechanical rides. i wonder how= those things get built so quickly when everyone's all twacked out on cryst= al.=0A=0A=0Ahave fun destroying the carnival. those fucking carnie games ar= e a ripoff anyway.=0A=0Akeep your eyes peeled for those biker boys. they ma= y look all nice and shiny with their spiffy clean faggoty shined up plastic= bikes but there's little hiding spots all inside of the bike cavities and = under the seat. if ya find your boyfriend with something that looks suspici= ous just shoot him, no one will really care anyway.=0A=0A__________________= ________________________________=0ADo You Yahoo!?=0ATired of spam? Yahoo! = Mail has the best spam protection around =0Ahttp://mail.yahoo.com --0-2067374245-1192945300=:68360 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
most of the crystal meth in the country is being produ= ced by biker gangs in the middle of nowhere.
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then local pieces of shit come to = the fair all the fucking time, for god knows what purpose except to get the= ir feet chopped off by shitty mechanical rides. i wonder how those things g= et built so quickly when everyone's all twacked out on crystal.
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keep your eyes peeled for those biker boys. they may look all nice = and shiny with their spiffy clean faggoty shined up plastic bikes but there= 's little hiding spots all inside of the bike cavities and under the seat. = if ya find your boyfriend with something that looks suspicious just shoot h= im, no one will really care anyway.

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Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1866 invoked from network); 21 Oct 2007 06:04:58 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 360269.82040.bm@as608.mail.sp1.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=h0JnR7aDlkhCD0SO++qUqG6aUgEl+BfdYZOmJeKgJJPVsqRPr85KCaFdXelrrwsCfk29ZD1m0F7FbDCAp3jA9qdhUMSrhSax9unLGkVJwDKalfxuMa2naAoo3TswNjj3Wn6z6gw3oOSpAWDwRxoWXx13DHedFYxq02eEoegkuZw=; X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/814.06 YahooMailWebService/0.7.134.12 Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 23:04:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Destein To: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1594604372-1192946695=:89419" Message-ID: <184127.89419.qm@web45502.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: {pb-cle} heroin dealers --0-1594604372-1192946695=:89419 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable john michael travolta.. thats right the disco dancing faggot ass movie star= who likes little kids to suck his dick.=0A=0Amichael myers of austin power= s fame.... he may look goofy but don't eat any of his food or whatever else= he might cook.=0A=0Aroseanne barr arnold yup the fat bitch herself is so f= at she probably keeps the smack inside her big fat gut.=0A=0Aand locally we= have a psychology teacher who hasn't even earned her degree yet. her name = is gail wallis hague and teaches at duquesne university. You can find her a= t 8275 remington drive, pittsburgh, PA 15237.=0A=0Ahave fun. just go burn t= he house down...oh save the dogs first..... maybe she's hiding smack in the= ir butthole cavities when she goes to the dog show. maybe alot of other peo= ple do that one too.... after all as michael vick would say, it's just a do= g.=0A=0AFUCK ALL YOU...!!! REMEMBER ME !!!!! =0AYOU WILL SEE THAT I CAN'T B= E STOPPED AND I'MA POP MY GLOCK TILL THEY ALL DROP!!!!=0A=0AOH AND BY THE W= AY, HEROIN CAN EASILY BE TRANSPORTED INSIDE OF TIRES WITH THE RIMS STILL ON= .. SO IF YOU SEE A SHADY TIRE SELLER BUST THEIR ASSES. A LOCAL GARAGE OR A B= IG NAME BRAND GARAGE, YOU JUST NEVER KNOW WHO'S DEALING SMACK IN THIS COUNT= RY. GOLF CART TIRES CAN HOLD LOTS OF DRUGS ALSO.=0A=0AWARREN THOMAS CROMER = 1283 NILES COURT THE VILLAGES FLORIDA 32162=0AHIGH SECURITY AREA LOTS OF RI= CH OLD FUCKS WITH LOTS OF MONEY AND LOTS OF TOYS TO BREAK. GRAB YOUR CROWBA= RS THIS HOLIDAY SEASON AND SMASH THEIR SHIT UP AND MAKE THOSE INSURANCE PRE= MIUMS GO THRU THE ROOF CUZ FRANKLY I DON'T GIVE A FUCK ANYMORE.=0A=0ABITCHE= S.=0A=0AKEEP AWAY FROM DRUG DEALERS. SHOOT THEM IN THE HEAD WITH A CROSSBOW= .. AVAILABLE AT ANY FINE SPORTING GOODS STORE, OR ALSO AT WAL-MART FOR LIKE = 150 BUCKS PLUS IS COMES WITH 4 SHOTS. IF IT DON'T KILL THEM, THEY'LL STILL = BE MUMBLING AND YELLING OUT FRANKS AND BEANS FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES. K= EEP AWAY FROM DJ ZONE, HE'S NOTHING BUT A BAD GUY POSING AS A GOOD GUY TO G= ET YOU TO OPEN YOUR EYES UP TO THE WORLD WHILE HE PUMPS YOU FULL OF GOD ONL= Y KNOWS WHAT KIND OF NARCOTICS. HE'S GOT THE WHOLE MEDICINE CABINET FOLKS. = IF YOU WANNA TAKE A LINK OUTTA THE CHAIN LOOP TAKE THAT MOTHERFUCKER OUT FI= RST. LOVE YOU LAUREN :)=0A=0AVICE PRESIDENT DICK CHENEY IS ALSO A DEALER OF= HEROIN, HE ALSO HAS A SECRET SON AND GUESS WHO HE IS!!!!!!! MOTHERFUCKING = BRAD STINKYARMPITS PITT! 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SO AFGHANISTAN ATTACKED THE UNITED STATES JUST FOR A GOOD REASON TO= FIGURE OUT A BETTER WAY OF GETTING HEROIN INTO THE UNITED STATES. !!!=0A= =0AHEREIN LIES THE CONUNDRUM, WHAT'S A BETTER WAY TO GET HEROIN INTO THE UN= ITED STATES OTHER THAN THE WAY THAT NO ONE KNEW ABOUT ALREADY???????=0A=0AI= T'S A PRETTY SICK JOKE... SO PEOPLE ARE DYING AND UNLESS THEY START MAKING = MORE BUSINESSES OVER IN IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN TO SECRETLY SHIP THAT WHICH WA= S ALREADY BEING SECRETLY SHIPPED INTO THE COUNTRY IF EVERYONE ENDS UP OVER = IN IRAQ FIGHTING FOR THE FREEDOM TO BUY FOREIGN OVERSEAS PRODUCTS WITH BAGG= IES OF HEROIN INSIDE......=0A=0AIFUCKING LOST MY PLACE THIS IS SO RETARDED.= ........ I SAY KICK SOME GI JOE ASS AND JESUS H CHRIST STOP USING ANYTHING T= HAT DOESN'T GROW OUT OF THE GROUND.. ALSO KNOWN AS MARIJUANA!!!!!! GET STON= ED SO YOU CAN SEE THIS DUMB BULLSHIT BEFORE IT COMES YOUR WAY......=0A=0ASI= GNING OFF... AND ANOTHER THING... START SHOOTING THE AMISH. THEY GROW POPPI= ES FOR HEROIN PRODUCTION AND POSSIBLY HOUSE MANY CRYSTAL METH PRODUCTION FA= CILITIES. PLUS THEY REALLY STINK.=0A=0AAND ANOTHER THING... THOSE GOD DAMNE= D MOTHERFUCKING KAZOO CRASHING MORMONS.. THOSE FUCKHEADS ARE SHADY DOSERS A= ND PUSHERS LIKE A MOTHERFUCKER... ALL SPIT AND POLISH RIDING THEIR LITTLE F= AGGY BICYCLES PRAISING GOD AND JOSEPH SMITH DUM DUM DUM DUM DUM.=0A=0ASTART= BLOWING UP THE WHOLE COUNTRY BEFORE SOMEONE BLOWS YOU UP. AGAIN. ONLY THIS= TIME, THERE WON'T EVEN BE A WARNING. IT'LL PROBABLY JUST DRUG YOU INTO A N= ICE NAZI ASS BUTTHOLE RAPING. OH GO KILL THOSE FUCKHEADS TOO.=0A=0AOH THATS= RIGHT.... KEANU REEVES IS ALSO A LSD DEALER/LSD PRODUCER AS THE FUCKHEAD A= CTUALLY CAN MAKE IT IN HIS GARAGE. CHARLIE SHEEN IS A COKEHEAD TOO. LOVE YO= U BABE :) I HOPE YOU STILL KNOW HOW TO FLY THIS THING...=0A=0A=0AOVER AND O= UT.=0A=0A__________________________________________________=0ADo You Yahoo!= ?=0ATired of spam? Yahoo! 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john michael travolta.. thats right the disco dancing = faggot ass movie star who likes little kids to suck his dick.
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michael myers of austin powers fame.... he may look goo= fy but don't eat any of his food or whatever else he might cook.
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roseanne barr arnold yup the fat bitch herself is so= fat she probably keeps the smack inside her big fat gut.
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and locally we have a psychology teacher who hasn't even ea= rned her degree yet. her name is gail wallis hague and teaches at duquesne = university. You can find her at 8275 remington drive, pittsburgh, PA 15237.=
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have fun. just go burn the house down...o= h save the dogs first..... maybe she's hiding smack in their butthole cavit= ies when she goes to the dog show. maybe alot of other people do that one t= oo.... after all as michael vick would say, it's just a dog.
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FUCK ALL YOU...!!! REMEMBER ME !!!!!
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YOU W= ILL SEE THAT I CAN'T BE STOPPED AND I'MA POP MY GLOCK TILL THEY ALL DROP!!!= !
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OH AND BY THE WAY, HEROIN CAN EASILY BE = TRANSPORTED INSIDE OF TIRES WITH THE RIMS STILL ON. SO IF YOU SEE A SHADY T= IRE SELLER BUST THEIR ASSES. A LOCAL GARAGE OR A BIG NAME BRAND GARAGE, YOU= JUST NEVER KNOW WHO'S DEALING SMACK IN THIS COUNTRY. GOLF CART TIRES CAN H= OLD LOTS OF DRUGS ALSO.
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WARREN THOMAS CROM= ER 1283 NILES COURT THE VILLAGES FLORIDA 32162
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HIGH SECURITY A= REA LOTS OF RICH OLD FUCKS WITH LOTS OF MONEY AND LOTS OF TOYS TO BREAK. GR= AB YOUR CROWBARS THIS HOLIDAY SEASON AND SMASH THEIR SHIT UP AND MAKE THOSE= INSURANCE PREMIUMS GO THRU THE ROOF CUZ FRANKLY I DON'T GIVE A FUCK ANYMOR= E.
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BITCHES.
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=0AKEEP AWAY FROM DRUG DEALERS. SHOOT THEM IN THE HEAD WITH A CROSSBOW. AVA= ILABLE AT ANY FINE SPORTING GOODS STORE, OR ALSO AT WAL-MART FOR LIKE 150 B= UCKS PLUS IS COMES WITH 4 SHOTS. IF IT DON'T KILL THEM, THEY'LL STILL BE MU= MBLING AND YELLING OUT FRANKS AND BEANS FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES. KEEP A= WAY FROM DJ ZONE, HE'S NOTHING BUT A BAD GUY POSING AS A GOOD GUY TO GET YO= U TO OPEN YOUR EYES UP TO THE WORLD WHILE HE PUMPS YOU FULL OF GOD ONLY KNO= WS WHAT KIND OF NARCOTICS. HE'S GOT THE WHOLE MEDICINE CABINET FOLKS. IF YO= U WANNA TAKE A LINK OUTTA THE CHAIN LOOP TAKE THAT MOTHERFUCKER OUT FIRST. = LOVE YOU LAUREN :)
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VICE PRESIDENT DICK CHE= NEY IS ALSO A DEALER OF HEROIN, HE ALSO HAS A SECRET SON AND GUESS WHO HE I= S!!!!!!! MOTHERFUCKING BRAD STINKYARMPITS PITT! THATS RIGHT POOR ANJELINA I= S BEING TRAPPED BY ALL KINDS OF PEOPLE TO TRY TO GET HER INTO A POSITION TO= DO PORNO MOVIES JUST TO SAVE THE WORLD, SOMEONE BULLET BRAD PITT AND KICK = THAT FUCKING MUTANT LITTLE RAPE BABY OUT OF THE MOTHERFUCKING DOOR.
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AND WHILE WE'RE ON THE TOPIC OF POLITICIANS, FU= CK YOU GEORGE BUSH, GEORGE BUSH HAS A LITTLE SECRET SON WHO'S NAME IS CHUCK= MILKE. NOW CHUCK IS A MANLY MAN WHO LIKES COCK IN THE BUM AND HE'S ALSO A = DOOR TO DOOR POISONING ASSASSIN. HE KILLS FOR MONEY.
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AND ONTO THE IRAQ WAR. I GUESS N ONE WAS BUYING HEROIN FOR A LON= G TIME IN THE 90'S THANKS TO ECSTASY, POOR AFGHANISTAN BECAME POOR BECAUSE = THEIR BIGGEST BUYER, THE UNITED STATES WASN'T HAVING ANY OF THAT SLIMY NEED= LE BULLSHIT. SO AFGHANISTAN ATTACKED THE UNITED STATES JUST FOR A GOOD REAS= ON TO FIGURE OUT A BETTER WAY OF GETTING HEROIN INTO THE UNITED STATES. !!!=
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HEREIN LIES THE CONUNDRUM, WHAT'S A BETTE= R WAY TO GET HEROIN INTO THE UNITED STATES OTHER THAN THE WAY THAT NO ONE K= NEW ABOUT ALREADY???????
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IT'S A PRETTY SIC= K JOKE... SO PEOPLE ARE DYING AND UNLESS THEY START MAKING MORE BUSINESSES = OVER IN IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN TO SECRETLY SHIP THAT WHICH WAS ALREADY BEING = SECRETLY SHIPPED INTO THE COUNTRY IF EVERYONE ENDS UP OVER IN IRAQ FIGHTING= FOR THE FREEDOM TO BUY FOREIGN OVERSEAS PRODUCTS WITH BAGGIES OF HEROIN IN= SIDE......
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IFUCKING LOST MY PLACE THIS IS = SO RETARDED........ I SAY KICK SOME GI JOE ASS AND JESUS H CHRIST STOP USIN= G ANYTHING THAT DOESN'T GROW OUT OF THE GROUND.. ALSO KNOWN AS MARIJUANA!!!= !!! GET STONED SO YOU CAN SEE THIS DUMB BULLSHIT BEFORE IT COMES YOUR WAY..= .....
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SIGNING OFF... AND ANOTHER THING... S= TART SHOOTING THE AMISH. THEY GROW POPPIES FOR HEROIN PRODUCTION AND POSSIB= LY HOUSE MANY CRYSTAL METH PRODUCTION FACILITIES. PLUS THEY REALLY STINK.=0A
 
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AND ANOTHER THING... THOSE GOD DAMNED MOTHE= RFUCKING KAZOO CRASHING MORMONS.. THOSE FUCKHEADS ARE SHADY DOSERS AND PUSH= ERS LIKE A MOTHERFUCKER... ALL SPIT AND POLISH RIDING THEIR LITTLE FAGGY BI= CYCLES PRAISING GOD AND JOSEPH SMITH DUM DUM DUM DUM DUM.
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START BLOWING UP THE WHOLE COUNTRY BEFORE SOMEONE BLOWS YOU= UP. AGAIN. ONLY THIS TIME, THERE WON'T EVEN BE A WARNING. IT'LL PROBABLY J= UST DRUG YOU INTO A NICE NAZI ASS BUTTHOLE RAPING. OH GO KILL THOSE FUCKHEA= DS TOO.
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OH THATS RIGHT.... KEANU REEVES IS= ALSO A LSD DEALER/LSD PRODUCER AS THE FUCKHEAD ACTUALLY CAN MAKE IT IN HIS= GARAGE. CHARLIE SHEEN IS A COKEHEAD TOO. LOVE YOU BABE :) I HOPE YOU STILL= KNOW HOW TO FLY THIS THING...
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OVER AND OUT.

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THAT CHUCK MILKE FUCKER IS THE SECRET SON OF GEORGE W = BUSH CHOSEN BY THE ILLUMINATI TO BE PRESIDENT OF THE WHITE HOUSE AFTER HE C= APTURES OSAMA BIN LADEN WHO IS BEING HELD PRISONER AND PROBABLY REPRODUCING= WITH THOSE EXTREMIST MORMON POLYGAMISTS IN UTAH.
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http://mail.yahoo.com --0-91780575-1192947062=:89658-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90552-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Oct 21 06:40:24 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9514 invoked by uid 1162); 21 Oct 2007 06:40:24 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: X-list-unsubscribe: X-list-post: X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9498 invoked from network); 21 Oct 2007 06:40:23 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 12849.47048.bm@omp101.mail.re1.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=3x753imNjGW86T4tk3R1WiiyjHEv9uqJOA6S+Ckh/hwpal7+MnDLlWr/I9+9S6XV30CKCZg+OUcu6SLxtnQ/XbnqvLpyUoQOliWXnI9dzjR4lyoL98yWlU0SDClgFYDm62RFD74lb0ReRELc+jAHE+asG2YKZgmI4QKEGMPcDWg=; X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/814.06 YahooMailWebService/0.7.134.12 Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 23:33:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Destein To: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1494045909-1192948422=:44073" Message-ID: <467794.44073.qm@web45511.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: {pb-cle} beware of electronic pedophiles --0-1494045909-1192948422=:44073 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable images of naked children can be stored and used for sale by fucking every p= ervert out there on any type of electronic device.=0A=0Abeware of a teacher= named vincent vasco he's a mr rodgers looking mother fucker used to work f= or pittsburgh technical institute as an electronics teacher. he likes to te= ach individuals the trade... the trading of kiddie porn for money. usually = eeprom burners can be used to store these images on hardware as simple as o= ld 5 1/4 in or 3.5 floppies to anything like graphing calculators, old sch= ool nintendo system cartridges and cd-rom and dvd and now blu-ray/hd-dvd. i= f it's got a chip on it that can be read and be written to it's a useful me= dium for the kiddie porn trade.=0A=0A=0Ado not trust the following individu= als...=0A=0Avincent vasco=0Aa black teacher that used to teach electronics = at pittsburgh technical institute (sorry not gettin racial i just forget hi= s name.... i wasn't in his class for very long...)=0Ajohn dings=0Agary cris= sman of the russel f clark company =0A206 Siebert Road, Suite 130=0APittsbu= rgh, PA 15237=0Adon't be afraid of him. he looks like a little monkey man w= hich he uses his appearance to "cheer up" "unhappy" babies and rub his face= all over their genitals.=0A=0Ai'm really fucking not making this shit up a= t all....... no drugs at all.... shit i'm not even stoned....=0Ano fucking = cigarettes on me either.... dammit...=0A=0Aoh and gary crissman's wife bets= y crissman along with dj zone and roseanne arnold kidnapped either steve jo= bs or steve wozniaks of the apple computre corporations baby and sacrificed= it...=0Aas in killed it in a drug fueled rage induced by pcp and formaldeh= yde given to them by roseanne.=0A=0Ahowever betsy didn't just do it cuz of = drugs, she said that roseanne made her do it so that betsy could become a m= ovie star..... anyway... whatever happened i got nailed by the fat blond sp= ikey haired moo-cow with a cigarette laced with formaldehyde and pcp.....= =0A=0Aanyway it was all paid off to the local government and brushed under = the rug like nothing ever happened which is what fuels apple computer to th= is very day. think different but not listening to the insane bullshit that = anyone might tell you..=0A=0Ai am outta here...=0A=0A______________________= ____________________________=0ADo You Yahoo!?=0ATired of spam? Yahoo! Mail= has the best spam protection around =0Ahttp://mail.yahoo.com --0-1494045909-1192948422=:44073 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
images of naked children can be stored and used for sa= le by fucking every pervert out there on any type of electronic device.=0A
 
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beware of a teacher named vincent vasco he's = a mr rodgers looking mother fucker used to work for pittsburgh technical in= stitute as an electronics teacher. he likes to teach individuals the trade.= ... the trading of kiddie porn for money. usually eeprom burners can be used= to store these images on hardware as simple as old 5  1/4 in or 3.5 f= loppies to anything like graphing calculators, old school nintendo system c= artridges and cd-rom and dvd and now blu-ray/hd-dvd. if it's got a chip on = it that can be read and be written to it's a useful medium for the kiddie p= orn trade.
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do not trus= t the following individuals...
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vincent vas= co
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a black teacher that used to teach electronics at pittsburg= h technical institute (sorry not gettin racial i just forget his name.... i= wasn't in his class for very long...)
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john dings
=0Agary crissman of the russel f clark company
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206 Siebert Road= , Suite 130
Pittsburgh, PA 15237
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don't be afraid of him. he= looks like a little monkey man which he uses his appearance to "cheer up" = "unhappy" babies and rub his face all over their genitals.
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i'm really fucking not making this shit up at all....... n= o drugs at all.... shit i'm not even stoned....
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no fucking cig= arettes on me either.... dammit...
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oh and = gary crissman's wife betsy crissman along with dj zone and roseanne arnold = kidnapped either steve jobs or steve wozniaks of the apple computre corpora= tions baby and sacrificed it...
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as in killed it in a drug fuel= ed rage induced by pcp and formaldehyde given to them by roseanne.
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however betsy didn't just do it cuz of drugs, she = said that roseanne made her do it so that betsy could become a movie star..= .... anyway... whatever happened i got nailed by the fat blond spikey haired= moo-cow with a cigarette laced with formaldehyde and pcp.....
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anyway it was all paid off to the local government and= brushed under the rug like nothing ever happened which is what fuels apple= computer to this very day. think different but not listening to the insane= bullshit that anyone might tell you..
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i a= m outta here...
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http://mail.yahoo.com --0-1494045909-1192948422=:44073-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90553-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Oct 21 09:27:29 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 49828 invoked by uid 1162); 21 Oct 2007 09:27:29 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: X-list-unsubscribe: X-list-post: X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 49810 invoked from network); 21 Oct 2007 09:27:28 -0000 From: Ellis Dees To: Mike Destein Cc: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <467794.44073.qm@web45511.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <467794.44073.qm@web45511.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 05:27:21 -0400 Message-Id: <1192958841.13466.0.camel@tekgnome.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} beware of electronic pedophiles Dude, you're making Stevie look normal. On Sat, 2007-10-20 at 23:33 -0700, Mike Destein wrote: > images of naked children can be stored and used for sale by fucking > every pervert out there on any type of electronic device. > > beware of a teacher named vincent vasco he's a mr rodgers looking > mother fucker used to work for pittsburgh technical institute as an > electronics teacher. he likes to teach individuals the trade.... the > trading of kiddie porn for money. usually eeprom burners can be used > to store these images on hardware as simple as old 5 1/4 in or 3.5 > floppies to anything like graphing calculators, old school nintendo > system cartridges and cd-rom and dvd and now blu-ray/hd-dvd. if it's > got a chip on it that can be read and be written to it's a useful > medium for the kiddie porn trade. > > > do not trust the following individuals... > > vincent vasco > a black teacher that used to teach electronics at pittsburgh technical > institute (sorry not gettin racial i just forget his name.... i wasn't > in his class for very long...) > john dings > gary crissman of the russel f clark company > 206 Siebert Road, Suite 130 > Pittsburgh, PA 15237 > don't be afraid of him. he looks like a little monkey man which he > uses his appearance to "cheer up" "unhappy" babies and rub his face > all over their genitals. > > i'm really fucking not making this shit up at all....... no drugs at > all.... shit i'm not even stoned.... > no fucking cigarettes on me either.... dammit... > > oh and gary crissman's wife betsy crissman along with dj zone and > roseanne arnold kidnapped either steve jobs or steve wozniaks of the > apple computre corporations baby and sacrificed it... > as in killed it in a drug fueled rage induced by pcp and formaldehyde > given to them by roseanne. > > however betsy didn't just do it cuz of drugs, she said that roseanne > made her do it so that betsy could become a movie star...... anyway... > whatever happened i got nailed by the fat blond spikey haired moo-cow > with a cigarette laced with formaldehyde and pcp..... > > anyway it was all paid off to the local government and brushed under > the rug like nothing ever happened which is what fuels apple computer > to this very day. think different but not listening to the insane > bullshit that anyone might tell you.. > > i am outta here... > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com -- -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90554-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Oct 21 18:42:01 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 83924 invoked by uid 1162); 21 Oct 2007 18:42:00 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: X-list-unsubscribe: X-list-post: X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 83898 invoked from network); 21 Oct 2007 18:41:59 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=HRSH7hklOI6XmhRfN3hocqwGOIo9P0MVZfFGae0qiPBUFpFSTOKZSxaqlzR++DC7hvsEQ1aXOi2pwRX26xLQZQz6wFFa1hBySyVJt/bxueBZR9xviNb0gwHcM5SxF8KLvse0dwx0gZOM52Vf64+WSvXzJi+okCEGDIqjcVmo/sI=; X-YMail-OSG: 3yUzD5UVM1lgRKh93fE29sfTcaGD76Vk0CM7yOmDSyrSf_dtf8PSnh8sRNVn1Ww7NIuAXPUppq8W44WL0dSQZm4jXyltW_gOE27sNIrjMW5sJ9RdjoGnvnTesXnzJ8R771pM6UhhUHsFSmE- Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 11:41:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Amanda von Schtupp To: "pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org" In-Reply-To: <1192958841.13466.0.camel@tekgnome.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1265155754-1192992119=:82973" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <85592.82973.qm@web54002.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} beware of electronic pedophiles --0-1265155754-1192992119=:82973 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mike Destein, Mike Destein ... that name sounds so familiar ... Christ - were you friends with the Silverraver like 8 years ago? I know I know you from somewhere... ... Ellis Dees wrote: Dude, you're making Stevie look normal. On Sat, 2007-10-20 at 23:33 -0700, Mike Destein wrote: > images of naked children can be stored and used for sale by fucking > every pervert out there on any type of electronic device. > > beware of a teacher named vincent vasco he's a mr rodgers looking > mother fucker used to work for pittsburgh technical institute as an > electronics teacher. he likes to teach individuals the trade.... the > trading of kiddie porn for money. usually eeprom burners can be used > to store these images on hardware as simple as old 5 1/4 in or 3.5 > floppies to anything like graphing calculators, old school nintendo > system cartridges and cd-rom and dvd and now blu-ray/hd-dvd. if it's > got a chip on it that can be read and be written to it's a useful > medium for the kiddie porn trade. > > > do not trust the following individuals... > > vincent vasco > a black teacher that used to teach electronics at pittsburgh technical > institute (sorry not gettin racial i just forget his name.... i wasn't > in his class for very long...) > john dings > gary crissman of the russel f clark company > 206 Siebert Road, Suite 130 > Pittsburgh, PA 15237 > don't be afraid of him. he looks like a little monkey man which he > uses his appearance to "cheer up" "unhappy" babies and rub his face > all over their genitals. > > i'm really fucking not making this shit up at all....... no drugs at > all.... shit i'm not even stoned.... > no fucking cigarettes on me either.... dammit... > > oh and gary crissman's wife betsy crissman along with dj zone and > roseanne arnold kidnapped either steve jobs or steve wozniaks of the > apple computre corporations baby and sacrificed it... > as in killed it in a drug fueled rage induced by pcp and formaldehyde > given to them by roseanne. > > however betsy didn't just do it cuz of drugs, she said that roseanne > made her do it so that betsy could become a movie star...... anyway... > whatever happened i got nailed by the fat blond spikey haired moo-cow > with a cigarette laced with formaldehyde and pcp..... > > anyway it was all paid off to the local government and brushed under > the rug like nothing ever happened which is what fuels apple computer > to this very day. think different but not listening to the insane > bullshit that anyone might tell you.. > > i am outta here... > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com -- -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --0-1265155754-1192992119=:82973 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mike Destein, Mike Destein ... that name sounds so familiar ... Christ - were you friends with the Silverraver like 8 years ago? I know I know you from somewhere... ...

Ellis Dees <azurensis@tekgnome.com> wrote:
Dude, you're making Stevie look normal.

On Sat, 2007-10-20 at 23:33 -0700, Mike Destein wrote:
> images of naked children can be stored and used for sale by fucking
> every pervert out there on any type of electronic device.
>
> beware of a teacher named vincent vasco he's a mr rodgers looking
> mother fucker used to work for pittsburgh technical institute as an
> electronics teacher. he likes to teach individuals the trade.... the
> trading of kiddie porn for money. usually eeprom burners can be used
> to store these images on hardware as simple as old 5 1/4 in or 3.5
> floppies to anything like graphing calculators, old school nintendo
> system cartridges and cd-rom and dvd and now blu-ray/hd-dvd. if it's
> got a chip on it that can be read and be written to it's a useful
> medium for the kiddie porn trade.
>
>
> do not trust the following individuals...
>
> vincent vasco
> a black teacher that used to teach electronics at pittsburgh technical
> institute (sorry not gettin racial i just forget his name.... i wasn't
> in his class for very long...)
> john dings
> gary crissman of the russel f clark company
> 206 Siebert Road, Suite 130
> Pittsburgh, PA 15237
> don't be afraid of him. he looks like a little monkey man which he
> uses his appearance to "cheer up" "unhappy" babies and rub his face
> all over their genitals.
>
> i'm really fucking not making this shit up at all....... no drugs at
> all.... shit i'm not even stoned....
> no fucking cigarettes on me either.... dammit...
>
> oh and gary crissman's wife betsy crissman along with dj zone and
> roseanne arnold kidnapped either steve jobs or steve wozniaks of the
> apple computre corporations baby and sacrificed it...
> as in killed it in a drug fueled rage induced by pcp and formaldehyde
> given to them by roseanne.
>
> however betsy didn't just do it cuz of drugs, she said that roseanne
> made her do it so that betsy could become a movie star...... anyway...
> whatever happened i got nailed by the fat blond spikey haired moo-cow
> with a cigarette laced with formaldehyde and pcp.....
>
> anyway it was all paid off to the local government and brushed under
> the rug like nothing ever happened which is what fuels apple computer
> to this very day. think different but not listening to the insane
> bullshit that anyone might tell you..
>
> i am outta here...
>
>
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Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 97712 invoked from network); 22 Oct 2007 10:38:38 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <5D2371B3-5575-4321-863A-FC7191778FCE@avenirex.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: sour people From: Avenirex Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 06:38:03 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: {pb-cle} convert ATRAC to MP3 (or AAC) I have a question for the digital audiophiles in the group, in the hopes that someone knows the answer. Basically, is there any program out there than can convert ATRAC audio files (from a Sony Mini Disk collection) over to MP3 or AAC. I have a friend who can no longer find a new MD player to replace her busted one, and she wants an iPod anyway. Anyone encountered this? Thanks, Ben -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90558-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 22 17:53:12 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 48717 invoked by uid 1162); 22 Oct 2007 17:53:11 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: X-list-unsubscribe: X-list-post: X-files: scully! 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Dan K On 10/22/07, Avenirex wrote: > > I have a question for the digital audiophiles in the group, in the > hopes that someone knows the answer. Basically, is there any program > out there than can convert ATRAC audio files (from a Sony Mini Disk > collection) over to MP3 or AAC. I have a friend who can no longer > find a new MD player to replace her busted one, and she wants an iPod > anyway. Anyone encountered this? > > Thanks, > Ben > > > -- > you fucked polka royalty? > did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? > > ------=_Part_22199_28642407.1193075560633 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

Google your subject and you get pages and pages full...
 
Dan K

 
On 10/22/07, Avenirex <spike@avenirex.com> wrote:
I have a question for the digital audiophiles in the group, in the
hopes that someone knows the answer. Basically, is there any program
out there than can convert ATRAC audio files (from a Sony Mini Disk
collection) over to MP3 or AAC. I have a friend who can no longer
find a new MD player to replace her busted one, and she wants an iPod
anyway. Anyone encountered this?

Thanks,
Ben


--
you fucked polka royalty?
did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it?


------=_Part_22199_28642407.1193075560633-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90559-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 22 17:54:26 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 49900 invoked by uid 1162); 22 Oct 2007 17:54:26 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: X-list-unsubscribe: X-list-post: X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 49882 invoked from network); 22 Oct 2007 17:54:25 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=0P2gSWEtA1vXbXfFCgOvwBR8SRWfcaNoe9B24cGV6rc=; b=kQSfNovZE+wVP1gN/F/d2KvuEW8ew/5zSAX1VE9j5pE9/jyhplcnU4j4D+XSdfHC3elF/G+u87iK9lSPHfMMO3FUybPjkXr9cKsqsoymykU/i6g/4f4ZFmF4b/3JnfUm1NSyY5ovbPVqsTmTtCgSv4eKJJcByhzYF4wskVbDUqw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=jOPbAn+9n8kAf1WdNNWt1v54iY0DL6oqHXekaxRgUVbKDRaMOLBOf9GKkRk3j6Pf6S0+gAE5NsgFy6GEmtENtWZVCHLqdjqmXRtA2fWRx+FZUCeid37QHOYYa7RfBN1V4RDupuje+a8mhSDT5yX6loaKgxRbNykHfxSged8Euq4= Message-ID: <31285e7f0710221052g5ac4b4b2v457aad32ace15551@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 13:52:40 -0400 From: "Dan Kelly" To: pb-cle-raves In-Reply-To: <5D2371B3-5575-4321-863A-FC7191778FCE@avenirex.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_22199_28642407.1193075560633" References: <5D2371B3-5575-4321-863A-FC7191778FCE@avenirex.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} convert ATRAC to MP3 (or AAC) ------=_Part_22199_28642407.1193075560633 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Google your subject and you get pages and pages full... Dan K On 10/22/07, Avenirex wrote: > > I have a question for the digital audiophiles in the group, in the > hopes that someone knows the answer. Basically, is there any program > out there than can convert ATRAC audio files (from a Sony Mini Disk > collection) over to MP3 or AAC. I have a friend who can no longer > find a new MD player to replace her busted one, and she wants an iPod > anyway. Anyone encountered this? > > Thanks, > Ben > > > -- > you fucked polka royalty? > did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? > > ------=_Part_22199_28642407.1193075560633 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Google your subject and you get pages and pages full...
 
Dan K

 
On 10/22/07, Avenirex <spike@avenirex.com> wrote:
I have a question for the digital audiophiles in the group, in the
hopes that someone knows the answer. Basically, is there any program
out there than can convert ATRAC audio files (from a Sony Mini Disk
collection) over to MP3 or AAC. I have a friend who can no longer
find a new MD player to replace her busted one, and she wants an iPod
anyway. Anyone encountered this?

Thanks,
Ben


--
you fucked polka royalty?
did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it?


------=_Part_22199_28642407.1193075560633-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90560-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Oct 23 15:54:47 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21009 invoked by uid 1162); 23 Oct 2007 15:54:46 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: X-list-unsubscribe: X-list-post: X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20990 invoked from network); 23 Oct 2007 15:54:45 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=oT4aW1Q4Qw7SoPA2VFvolbugjWjFnTyEzdB/2QpJ5UaAeRZdNrzk7MZTh1g6kfEM3rqW32EBb/vBntIJW7GdpjmTWfDSLC9LT7oikORaT2EfDytdNp0pAIJ2R4c908y0xfkw6n9RLnFYQEOpcJzI6PwIzkKW1JdTTIaDFgVm/qw=; X-YMail-OSG: rgmbF.0VM1nUUq.ZJsd55CvU06bTm1YPJF0UTimeHLle6Mg2lzwIAyt1sG8_SuI.JFU7NvYteg-- Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 08:54:44 -0700 (PDT) From: James Tyler To: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-27973312-1193154884=:59942" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <633875.59942.qm@web80209.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: {pb-cle} Save The Date: Nov 9th and 10th: Touch Supper Club (Cle) --0-27973312-1193154884=:59942 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Since nobody's posted this up yet: For those of you that know Napoleon Rossi (Naps) he will be back in town Nov. 9th and 10th, and while he's back he's organized two events at Touch Supper Club. Friday the 9th is all House music with: Jason Lyman and Doug Black Stone -n- Leone Darbe Jason Soditch and Cara Bruce Mike Metz Stout XTc Nox Dwreck Saturday the 10th is mostly Techno with: Truck Stop Tourist Travis Owens Random(seed) vs. Justin Hartman Jamie Tyler Graph Thomar John K. No cover both nights, 10pm-close, 21+ --0-27973312-1193154884=:59942 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Since nobody's posted this up yet:

For those of you that know Napoleon Rossi (Naps) he will be back in town Nov. 9th and 10th, and while he's back he's organized two events at Touch Supper Club. 

Friday the 9th is all House music with:

Jason Lyman and Doug Black
Stone -n- Leone
Darbe
Jason Soditch and Cara Bruce
Mike Metz
Stout XTc
Nox
Dwreck

Saturday the 10th is mostly Techno with:

Truck Stop Tourist
Travis Owens
Random(seed) vs. Justin Hartman
Jamie Tyler
Graph
Thomar
John K.

No cover both nights, 10pm-close, 21+


--0-27973312-1193154884=:59942-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90561-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 24 19:29:53 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 54731 invoked by uid 1162); 24 Oct 2007 19:29:51 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: X-list-unsubscribe: X-list-post: X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 54703 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2007 19:29:50 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=5KN70eXStF2djco1ZWeEXBR1ycbXyfCsn0N6prTx2ApIZI9BULn5IKbfvP0oR45s6oAqbpEATRH9jwws1EI1j73Tx5BiJQjdHZ30ICzmpJhsSwrenBh8ZurCBIcg6LnxOn4Ph0GGdUl885Ev96VHyQvRn3zmdB5I5XVrw5dH9H0=; X-YMail-OSG: 5vo4UXUVM1nSE6IC2DybwJPFKjVTqKqmb1c_i_9QCotek_z8fn04X3IrYPW2COBbG85Ihfef7z14YkxXq6Ekzx0be2oFqcDOU7J3Y5tWHRrTIkoZ6OET_BINgEoI7sI- Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:29:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Two To: Mike Destein , pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <192367.42104.qm@web45506.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1983551619-1193254185=:91018" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <815607.91018.qm@web60412.mail.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} local meth dealer report --0-1983551619-1193254185=:91018 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit hey mike, buddy..... I think you're shoddy facts are the kinda things that get you fucked up.... Where ya living? I am sure Zone would like to come see ya. Mike Destein wrote: Dj zone a.k.a. i fucking hope to satan that this mix holds together though it most likely won't is nothing more than the son of billy bob thornton and the preferred dealer of the pittsburgh steelers !!!! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --0-1983551619-1193254185=:91018 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit hey mike, buddy..... I think you're shoddy facts are the kinda things that get you fucked up.... Where ya living? I am sure Zone would like to come  see ya.


Mike Destein <gir_theroboticpuppydog@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dj zone a.k.a. i fucking hope to satan that this mix holds together though it most likely won't is nothing more than the son of billy bob thornton and the preferred dealer of the pittsburgh steelers !!!!

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http://mail.yahoo.com --0-1983551619-1193254185=:91018-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90562-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 24 19:46:10 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 64754 invoked by uid 1162); 24 Oct 2007 19:46:09 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: X-list-unsubscribe: X-list-post: X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 64737 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2007 19:46:08 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=gTxug9uB/vG2KkPZxdsq5hSOPjN0DnWI56jSvLciQms=; b=ZvzVCrVuZm0d3NiFJqUAh3+siP8sBhZMKdL4SXAjoLnD94svpt9ZOEio4bm4g6nr67jc4pzXHvET30S2mH64HJX+zgw3R/4ujTQgPkgKbfdYSRaEAgJTwbbLcMHIj+Tq+YOSmust78I1bYbX1E658eyz9SyFkbI90NrYUZNCYRY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=LYFtIFyXfldBe3mRokUF8PWU5IXqlEXEkxTYLNxPxuU23DHizs1oNn8wpMUjTL/dTUtcEKDv2OCPOu1Vbk2quazQO7E/m1So/KxxH7EhiZVTowgCrSl+fWzRjkQZ3vOHaT7mBV4dFjCbiyvPgdBccQ8jF/6Y+TuADgqoeRL22Ac= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 15:46:08 -0400 From: "Ed Rodgers" To: Two Cc: "Mike Destein" , pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <815607.91018.qm@web60412.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_7229_22295218.1193255168096" References: <192367.42104.qm@web45506.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <815607.91018.qm@web60412.mail.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} local meth dealer report ------=_Part_7229_22295218.1193255168096 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline my guess would be CMU... that's where all the robotic puppy dogs live. m_e_e_p? On 10/24/07, Two wrote: > > hey mike, buddy..... I think you're shoddy facts are the kinda things that > get you fucked up.... Where ya living? I am sure Zone would like to come > see ya. > > > *Mike Destein * wrote: > > Dj zone a.k.a. i fucking hope to satan that this mix holds together though > it most likely won't is nothing more than the son of billy bob thornton and > the preferred dealer of the pittsburgh steelers !!!! > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > ------=_Part_7229_22295218.1193255168096 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline my guess would be CMU... that's where all the robotic puppy dogs live.

m_e_e_p?

On 10/24/07, Two <iamdjtwo@yahoo.com > wrote:
hey mike, buddy..... I think you're shoddy facts are the kinda things that get you fucked up.... Where ya living? I am sure Zone would like to come  see ya.



Mike Destein <gir_theroboticpuppydog@yahoo.com > wrote:
Dj zone a.k.a . i fucking hope to satan that this mix holds together though it most likely won't is nothing more than the son of billy bob thornton and the preferred dealer of the pittsburgh steelers !!!!

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------=_Part_7229_22295218.1193255168096-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90563-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 24 19:49:36 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 67371 invoked by uid 1162); 24 Oct 2007 19:49:35 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: X-list-unsubscribe: X-list-post: X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 67349 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2007 19:49:35 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:content-type:to:from:subject:date:x-mailer; bh=ZaGr8bDXHygHcw1PtzO5Kap2kqm+hD+6wTGyxKrJb+o=; b=GFojb6a7asnfKFeLGgAXhEeKelxWNTobAXi7jG6O4gC5VblhjIXJnO/PMBabATTn3EiojQHaeq9xxq5GM5yl8AooOfPQqyd2jWxbeJyfr3/wIIiIyO5a52+4vW2zJYVo74+AaX+1znOobLU2hUi14tA9mk8N5Qi7GzkCC5T55m4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:content-type:to:from:subject:date:x-mailer; b=l9BUtPTbHyGpr58s4m8UrWRyJp/SOzksL65qhLeuN8AdHh2m6ChiEUppprSEfE3AncRoi5KXa4+7YP3vLs8znsPeKwemduM2imYRW3epwDMZi7SlosWt/z5ZKW9FOlNPIgJ6GGqbQwigwmpuAi88F8x3YSXhwb1sQ20VXj9USVM= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org From: Naught Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:49:29 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: {pb-cle} Whoa... Mike Destein I know the name as well. But I can't remember what you look like or why I know you. If I do recall, you were once a candy raver crackhead. Oh boy, look who grew up and is now mr. serious. Are you that god damn stupid that you believe some of the claims you are making in these threads? Seriously dude. How about this? The airforce is not trafficking drugs, nor is microsoft, and they are not putting heroin in barrels of crude. Those are 3 of the dumbest fucking things I've ever heard. I can't say I agree with your opponents 100%. Making speed is fucking stupid, and doing it eats your brain. But you, Mr. Destein, are a fucking dipshit. Oh lord. It's good to be back. -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90564-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 24 22:08:23 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 46159 invoked by uid 1162); 24 Oct 2007 22:08:22 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: X-list-unsubscribe: X-list-post: X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 46140 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2007 22:08:22 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=LvDZsNo6qy0x4O8J9iWUiArTn0UBlqj7PCxXx7E59b8=; b=gYXbiPRVuICetJ37/fC1AF3rsNftdsPhAG1DXQ2oyXST2y7LH3BrfgnvPVe4sjIbC8mexj8HFGOdR1XOtluA0s93oQ0GwyGCqlL1e86zoNTx/MNSba+7JtCEenqbnUyL/U9DV3WJKYVvwv2L2F+WmtnLicE96okpAz8piAtI+wk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=HlfkVhOO3HjO/O2+Zm0CIoJ6jbNRogVm19xsew81Runc62lDwoaQcWOTchMqIMbzspaQRXt19/egnCTGCcQNTe41IuLAB06LksIhnEDk3OX3eg4yWfQXz4OEG2oqecJofNN9n6y0wd4AmqI60lti0ZaiVhE+J0FPYM1MCCd1JSU= Message-ID: <471FC243.8080108@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 18:08:03 -0400 From: trout User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: peebeecle Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: {pb-cle} etymotic vs earlove? hmmm creepy subject line there, but has anyone tried these earlove earplugs, they look alot like the etymotics http://www.earlove.net/index1.html http://www.etymotic.com/ i've used the etymotics for years and they hold up really well but i notice they roll off the high end a bit more than the low end. -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90565-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 24 22:31:43 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 61474 invoked by uid 1162); 24 Oct 2007 22:31:43 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: X-list-unsubscribe: X-list-post: X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 61455 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2007 22:31:42 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=rqpX8jnjK6I2ajMLspMKj91QdZpo5wkZTdl6qgyevTY=; b=PaXuIYljpe+OfvYhfk/CVE1T5k8lAvwSaAIITr0AGsU57i8wh6t5yElilp33o3PvuoFrOGy2zGStgqE/7H1kRja0oE4VHJmfjFBBoYCbzW5zpKPBr6yIc1QSzndaWqqs4Hq51qpPPrkl6YkfoH91Y+hKr+0W6FBB7yXdo3bQX9Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=SWEGXB/TX8CUE5QBdr6go2i6mEwjbN2ZEfbo2IgUNArE2EPDGKKOlenwSgTuH9m/dvhDA36ui0dV9gHEyqwIqS6UkJUVRH40MMj/lsy6EmrObHk2fPdbJUzf42tRX5ORq2Xcho6OaetqmgzW5u3lq+JB05o6EtvKXbEdkTI5HFQ= Message-ID: <8641c6dd0710241531s1f3c1b51mb67be03717243884@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 18:31:40 -0400 From: "[mark ]" To: doodoostank MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: {pb-cle} thank you, traaaat i just noticed that i made the sig line for (i think) the first time in 2007. i'm totally slippin'. need to step up my game...keep my pimp hand strong. m -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90566-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 24 22:43:44 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 66780 invoked by uid 1162); 24 Oct 2007 22:43:44 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: X-list-unsubscribe: X-list-post: X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 66762 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2007 22:43:44 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=JYr1v4MTCRgvmDqEFm//kFfltdTOabkvs/pXELnJgsmx3ERFHzE8Mo0Z52h7tvFZzE68UGITglO8rFkJFYppKT+6QDMJPI3bmQpLy76ReRdatJJW/cyDDm5fJI15Zffi8JWHdPrO+eIEr4071sfX+WkvwaXczqZdiUFd7yzcTmg=; X-YMail-OSG: zOaQODIVM1m63BDftEIlW7a87vEJTZBjJ1cNmYdP5Lmdfb5.DCpmkcCuPwhXbmy0oBGIfTmFP7xKY7Af5HVJWitGOQ7dN4AWAPN5SM6AkisHsSdO2BK0YhEcOBU07BGCUyjqiXXlDY0eHbDn_17Yh2ks Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 15:43:43 -0700 (PDT) From: seth thomas To: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <192387.67486.qm@web54004.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: {pb-cle} MSTRKRFT Just wanted to see who else is excited about MSTRKRFT coming to CMU next week? I picked up some tickets today, I can't wait Also what about That Epic Party, I had a great time, I ran into a lot of old friends, and I thought the music was great Rev!Zed __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90567-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 24 22:45:59 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 68555 invoked by uid 1162); 24 Oct 2007 22:45:59 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: X-list-unsubscribe: X-list-post: X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 68538 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2007 22:45:58 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=S+gC/P4HCnz+EqjNGmrQMiBSZRIPbFrdviLV1kkz5gQ=; b=pXHzZ6feEmm9XgOIlLIEExFcDRBypxdue/bOXN1NVZDOspVqKQ2v+gUzJiVpvj//1eg7IZh72nss4g6JngkJ4NxStUDOBwwGOUchxy9yrEH/pj03eikDnfxS4wn0sQ+JRjXq/o6KcYkFu61CENwgwJ94MVJ1H7B4uHpGqCt8ms0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=RDGNEsOqPDDL4oqcfZFXyvFbs+F1rkYXxBu7sEmvdjAjbCBvR9yxJDdvqlGQgMxMk44mANnJFCdiFElJP7PUcSi3eAzCtuTqoPdr+FecFLqQ1SPvKnewv8NKhm//yleOdzOoyeJjsjv+wvHMUvhqOqfgZ+Smbx4Qu+5Ae712B5U= Message-ID: <8641c6dd0710241545s3bba3083y29fca0776797091f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 18:45:57 -0400 From: "[mark ]" To: "seth thomas" Cc: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <192387.67486.qm@web54004.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <192387.67486.qm@web54004.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} MSTRKRFT WHOA! details, pls! open to public, or students only? m On 10/24/07, seth thomas wrote: > Just wanted to see who else is excited about MSTRKRFT > coming to CMU next week? > > I picked up some tickets today, I can't wait > > Also what about That Epic Party, I had a great time, I > ran into a lot of old friends, and I thought the music > was great > > Rev!Zed > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > -- > you fucked polka royalty? > did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? > > -- "When love is gone, there's always justice. And when justice is gone, there's always force." --- Laurie Anderson, "O Superman" Blind faith in bad leadership is not "Patriotism". -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90568-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 24 22:50:26 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 70346 invoked by uid 1162); 24 Oct 2007 22:50:25 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: X-list-unsubscribe: X-list-post: X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 70327 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2007 22:50:25 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=2B6DFqX8zhTQIOg2eboRDIQDuwRaJiPz283yRbALxLwTRMTf5UcTU0Uessi8r1hWhQ52DGfUiWJyFyWWp/gstxFI6NMD38qxfBnHyCHD3KsxcXK4AzEflmtDkBjN8J4mfJkvax3Dh4x2cwHIyjtJRf8r+1lHzyOpfOLq0zk8Ws8=; X-YMail-OSG: Nm72a3IVM1leUlB61iw5zGhkCsc7M7fzMybftvwTPA5VhVFhYQxUZ1m4hCYlqepPj17Q.Fyf4r47Z3FZbKb3JCgUWYRg8icNfWen82MEAYOT2bDOKRPuE9YTBQC6xGIwDoDENcKsfD1ZIP4- Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 15:50:24 -0700 (PDT) From: seth thomas To: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <8641c6dd0710241545s3bba3083y29fca0776797091f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <553082.56017.qm@web54008.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} MSTRKRFT MSTRKRFT HALLOWEEN COSTUME PARTY! 9 pm. Halloween Night, Oct 31st. Rangos Ballroom, UC, CMU. Tickets: $5 w/cmu id, on sale for CMU students at UC Info Desk starting Oct. 18th. $7 public, on sale at UC Info Desk starting Oct. 25th. The capacity of the ballroom is about 900 according to CMU's website For more info: http://www.activitiesboard.org/ http://www.myspace.com/MSTRKRFT For info on tickets: (412)-268-2107 Special Guest: DJ Howlermonkey http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/page/forkcast/46059-dj-howlermonkey-crystal-castles-omnibus-mix-mp3 Rev!Zed __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90569-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 24 23:00:27 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 78329 invoked by uid 1162); 24 Oct 2007 23:00:27 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: X-list-unsubscribe: X-list-post: X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 78308 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2007 23:00:26 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=NiZAUHslwTP2gTCIf9LjtzmiLEBN4pWNoPztzy+0I2c=; b=r47jhGEYrZrzLeyH7n94OX5q0r2tbGZ5nQP9CohiETxnA9x1JSwJPPlmiBwFLH9JPJELkSwb14462CVPRHN86YUWVPHBdisWK4gN7w6rd71pqQI/oZsc4vB+mbUrldquCoXOo295NhHJ/PeC1tdpBXDRaH1fkKBXXdd1qT5PcEc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=doDnN48RbR2/iDV1zHqAvNAPe1wbsmgvt1ErzzraOmCVvLiCk9AFvAXpDEQS/ca+qi0k0hKdqJqm/AY2D5PJzBhT3jxzrNKORK09lpD4ChiCGg2Et0ojImIKBLVotd4jI7+Ndne/izdO4WmWCyMfwyQZ5wau3hMl9ye+HAND3ZA= Message-ID: <8641c6dd0710241600u25665dc4o4c6666011f801ff0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 19:00:24 -0400 From: "[mark ]" To: avolkovi@andrew.cmu.edu Cc: "seth thomas" , pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <1892608090-1193266297-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-804538507-@bxe030.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <192387.67486.qm@web54004.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <8641c6dd0710241545s3bba3083y29fca0776797091f@mail.gmail.com> <1892608090-1193266297-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-804538507-@bxe030.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} MSTRKRFT That sounds pretty hot. Thanks for the info, y'all. If ya see a paunchy 30-something guy geeking out to some electro bizzness, don't worry. It's just me. m On 10/24/07, Alex Volkovitsky wrote: > Open to public, It will be in rangos ballroom with DJ howlermonkey opening > > We are renting out tons of blacklights and getting 100lbs of dry ice for this party :) > > Hope to see everyone there > > There is more info on the roboto board and I think also on lolli > > -- > Alex Volkovitsky > volk@cmu.edu > avolkovi@andrew.cmu.edu > c: (571) 275-0169 > > -----Original Message----- > From: "[mark ]" > > Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 18:45:57 > To:"seth thomas" > Cc:pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: {pb-cle} MSTRKRFT > > > WHOA! details, pls! > > open to public, or students only? > > m > > On 10/24/07, seth thomas wrote: > > Just wanted to see who else is excited about MSTRKRFT > > coming to CMU next week? > > > > I picked up some tickets today, I can't wait > > > > Also what about That Epic Party, I had a great time, I > > ran into a lot of old friends, and I thought the music > > was great > > > > Rev!Zed > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > -- > > you fucked polka royalty? > > did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? > > > > > > > -- > "When love is gone, there's always justice. > And when justice is gone, there's always force." > --- Laurie Anderson, "O Superman" > > Blind faith in bad leadership is not "Patriotism". > > -- > you fucked polka royalty? > did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? > > > -- "When love is gone, there's always justice. And when justice is gone, there's always force." --- Laurie Anderson, "O Superman" Blind faith in bad leadership is not "Patriotism". -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90570-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 24 23:09:46 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 83470 invoked by uid 1162); 24 Oct 2007 23:09:46 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: X-list-unsubscribe: X-list-post: X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 83450 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2007 23:09:45 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=zVGP1HBMPqOBlUHSbeftxDRZfhOAL8CXNy9GUWGiDTo=; b=qiG3d7puj6c0oVsj+c/ETHsHRWvqeuVPyim05IAYJQVJjVhdm6ZysebFC1sXsoGoqTWGkGcgoIwZloO7OeE2iQ6aXDMngUADMNuzfBtdqSO+fcU5pNdv69VUG70U+GkOH917DdlvpzKNjIsIGVYIPwEOI+zyYFRFkpfvvYtocmY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=tpBUzMsErVTxLIa512lYi3G8iPvFuGvF497gsqq8ayVfsQiRp8Xgo+4Ye6EPT6qfxyvZhuyE+tkHeOVM4qM/2+sFyFBl1gIrBzt5uLFqV39le0jfWqLz6WtBGO1WhospUtvr+u/qx259oS2R5MJ5cKaMpV1qQDLOO//VWmFCDIs= Message-ID: <471FD0A5.8060205@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 19:09:25 -0400 From: trout User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doodoostank References: <8641c6dd0710241531s1f3c1b51mb67be03717243884@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8641c6dd0710241531s1f3c1b51mb67be03717243884@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} thank you, traaaat its been there for a lil while too [mark ] wrote: > i just noticed that i made the sig line for (i think) the first time in 2007. > > i'm totally slippin'. need to step up my game...keep my pimp hand strong. -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90571-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 24 23:13:20 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 85611 invoked by uid 1162); 24 Oct 2007 23:13:19 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: X-list-unsubscribe: X-list-post: X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 85592 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2007 23:13:19 -0000 References: <467794.44073.qm@web45511.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> To: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 19:13:10 -0400 In-Reply-To: <467794.44073.qm@web45511.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: jsruben@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8C9E4AA94702C00_1BC_6F8_webmail-de01.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL WebMail 31361-STANDARD Message-Id: <8C9E4AA94702C00-1BC-371@webmail-de01.sysops.aol.com> X-AOL-IP: 205.188.104.22 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: {pb-cle} BBT? ----------MB_8C9E4AA94702C00_1BC_6F8_webmail-de01.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Bleh.. I think I deleted my last ROM from trout.? If anyone is bored and around I have a quick question.? Before I left Pittsburgh back in 2001 there was a wed. night drum and bass thang over at the Bloomfield Bridge Tavern on Wed. nights. Is that still happening?? I know it's been years but hey.. -Joe ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com ----------MB_8C9E4AA94702C00_1BC_6F8_webmail-de01.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Bleh.. I think I deleted my last ROM from trout.  If anyone is bored and around I have a quick question.  Before I left Pittsburgh back in 2001 there was a wed. night drum and bass thang over at the Bloomfield Bridge Tavern on Wed. nights.

Is that still happening?  I know it's been years but hey..


-Joe

Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail!
----------MB_8C9E4AA94702C00_1BC_6F8_webmail-de01.sysops.aol.com-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90572-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 24 23:35:51 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 95509 invoked by uid 1162); 24 Oct 2007 23:35:51 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: X-list-unsubscribe: X-list-post: X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 95493 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2007 23:35:50 -0000 Message-ID: <2484.24.131.219.130.1193268197.squirrel@webmail.chemlab.org> In-Reply-To: <8C9E4AA94702C00-1BC-371@webmail-de01.sysops.aol.com> References: <467794.44073.qm@web45511.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <8C9E4AA94702C00-1BC-371@webmail-de01.sysops.aol.com> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 19:23:17 -0400 (EDT) From: "Denae" To: jsruben@aol.com Cc: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.5.1 [CVS] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} BBT? Taken from another site.. 10.24.07 Come celebrate DJ Ra's birthday with a nice mixup of DNB and dubstep from: Cutups<– 412DNB, Random Breakbeat Pressure DJ Ra– 412DNB, DNB to make you pee aBZ- 412DNB, dubstep.fm $2 21+ 10-12 $1 bottles 4412 Liberty Avenue Pgh, PA 15216 On Wed, October 24, 2007 7:13 pm, jsruben@aol.com wrote: > Bleh.. I think I deleted my last ROM from trout.? If anyone is bored and > around I have a quick question.? Before I left Pittsburgh back in 2001 > there was a wed. night drum and bass thang over at the Bloomfield Bridge > Tavern on Wed. nights. > > > Is that still happening?? I know it's been years but hey.. > > > > -Joe > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - > http://mail.aol.com > > -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90573-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 24 23:43:49 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 518 invoked by uid 1162); 24 Oct 2007 23:43:49 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: X-list-unsubscribe: X-list-post: X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 501 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2007 23:43:48 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=YaNAw4wOclfzivan/DrnCJHY/82sa7pL7GG5rKww1a83vbdJ+lUhve+/Jn4gzK02xW/2qdoPrxluRx3QpDgzZXdq0rgLUGDR84Wm7+Qq0bsH3hnAL1ou/sAz7FiKgLlEjrrLCWvDXtsfgBrBfgHdFaipCnRuahsobA3SFF2Txnw=; X-YMail-OSG: HhlIhm4VM1kaeMMEy0I7YUFlo.4JmEa5Hkx_zPgZaASrXQoYDycywsjQCamozFee1oY1cdy_zDQTUV4c2f.WWppnCrb0XuroLcS_U_6tfsZsBNZjRupTfaqp6_0zsg-- Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 16:43:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Nichols To: Ellis Dees , Mike Destein Cc: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <1192958841.13466.0.camel@tekgnome.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-335952785-1193269427=:61838" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <674370.61838.qm@web53908.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} beware of electronic pedophiles --0-335952785-1193269427=:61838 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit whoa?! man this dude is fucking crazy. I read a lil of all his posts... wtf man... damn you got a lot of time on yur hands, Destein Ellis Dees wrote: Dude, you're making Stevie look normal. On Sat, 2007-10-20 at 23:33 -0700, Mike Destein wrote: > images of naked children can be stored and used for sale by fucking > every pervert out there on any type of electronic device. > > beware of a teacher named vincent vasco he's a mr rodgers looking > mother fucker used to work for pittsburgh technical institute as an > electronics teacher. he likes to teach individuals the trade.... the > trading of kiddie porn for money. usually eeprom burners can be used > to store these images on hardware as simple as old 5 1/4 in or 3.5 > floppies to anything like graphing calculators, old school nintendo > system cartridges and cd-rom and dvd and now blu-ray/hd-dvd. if it's > got a chip on it that can be read and be written to it's a useful > medium for the kiddie porn trade. > > > do not trust the following individuals... > > vincent vasco > a black teacher that used to teach electronics at pittsburgh technical > institute (sorry not gettin racial i just forget his name.... i wasn't > in his class for very long...) > john dings > gary crissman of the russel f clark company > 206 Siebert Road, Suite 130 > Pittsburgh, PA 15237 > don't be afraid of him. he looks like a little monkey man which he > uses his appearance to "cheer up" "unhappy" babies and rub his face > all over their genitals. > > i'm really fucking not making this shit up at all....... no drugs at > all.... shit i'm not even stoned.... > no fucking cigarettes on me either.... dammit... > > oh and gary crissman's wife betsy crissman along with dj zone and > roseanne arnold kidnapped either steve jobs or steve wozniaks of the > apple computre corporations baby and sacrificed it... > as in killed it in a drug fueled rage induced by pcp and formaldehyde > given to them by roseanne. > > however betsy didn't just do it cuz of drugs, she said that roseanne > made her do it so that betsy could become a movie star...... anyway... > whatever happened i got nailed by the fat blond spikey haired moo-cow > with a cigarette laced with formaldehyde and pcp..... > > anyway it was all paid off to the local government and brushed under > the rug like nothing ever happened which is what fuels apple computer > to this very day. think different but not listening to the insane > bullshit that anyone might tell you.. > > i am outta here... > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com -- -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --0-335952785-1193269427=:61838 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit whoa?! man this dude is fucking crazy.  I read a lil of all his posts... wtf man... damn you got a lot of time on yur hands, Destein

Ellis Dees <azurensis@tekgnome.com> wrote:
Dude, you're making Stevie look normal.

On Sat, 2007-10-20 at 23:33 -0700, Mike Destein wrote:
> images of naked children can be stored and used for sale by fucking
> every pervert out there on any type of electronic device.
>
> beware of a teacher named vincent vasco he's a mr rodgers looking
> mother fucker used to work for pittsburgh technical institute as an
> electronics teacher. he likes to teach individuals the trade.... the
> trading of kiddie porn for money. usually eeprom burners can be used
> to store these images on hardware as simple as old 5 1/4 in or 3.5
> floppies to anything like graphing calculators, old school nintendo
> system cartridges and cd-rom and dvd and now blu-ray/hd-dvd. if it's
> got a chip on it that can be read and be written to it's a useful
> medium for the kiddie porn trade.
>
>
> do not trust the following individuals...
>
> vincent vasco
> a black teacher that used to teach electronics at pittsburgh technical
> institute (sorry not gettin racial i just forget his name.... i wasn't
> in his class for very long...)
> john dings
> gary crissman of the russel f clark company
> 206 Siebert Road, Suite 130
> Pittsburgh, PA 15237
> don't be afraid of him. he looks like a little monkey man which he
> uses his appearance to "cheer up" "unhappy" babies and rub his face
> all over their genitals.
>
> i'm really fucking not making this shit up at all....... no drugs at
> all.... shit i'm not even stoned....
> no fucking cigarettes on me either.... dammit...
>
> oh and gary crissman's wife betsy crissman along with dj zone and
> roseanne arnold kidnapped either steve jobs or steve wozniaks of the
> apple computre corporations baby and sacrificed it...
> as in killed it in a drug fueled rage induced by pcp and formaldehyde
> given to them by roseanne.
>
> however betsy didn't just do it cuz of drugs, she said that roseanne
> made her do it so that betsy could become a movie star...... anyway...
> whatever happened i got nailed by the fat blond spikey haired moo-cow
> with a cigarette laced with formaldehyde and pcp.....
>
> anyway it was all paid off to the local government and brushed under
> the rug like nothing ever happened which is what fuels apple computer
> to this very day. think different but not listening to the insane
> bullshit that anyone might tell you..
>
> i am outta here...
>
>
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http://mail.yahoo.com --0-335952785-1193269427=:61838-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90574-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 25 11:13:06 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15808 invoked by uid 1162); 25 Oct 2007 11:13:06 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: X-list-unsubscribe: X-list-post: X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15483 invoked by uid 1162); 25 Oct 2007 11:13:01 -0000 Date: 25 Oct 2007 11:13:01 -0000 Message-ID: <20071025111301.15479.qmail@hyperreal.org> From: trout@hyperreal.org To: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Subject: {pb-cle} R.O.M.10.25.07 -==---------------------------------------------------------------==- The Pittsburgh-Cleveland-Toronto Rave-0-Matic mkIV Maintained by Trout Soup Under the same management since 1996 -==---------------------------------------------------------------==- Originating from crAkron, a place neither Pittsburgh or Cleveland! I consider the PB-CLE area as far west as Columbus and Dayton and as far east as State College. Maybe more, maybe less! I'm now including some Buffalo, Detroit, and DC events in the ROM, as well as some somewhat related concert events. I'm also now listing toronto since pittsburgh and cleveland seem to have a total lack of events. i have removed the weeklies from the mailer, but they are still listed on the web site. * This list is not for redistribution or publication without permission * The region i list is approximately 4 hours driving time from Akron, Ohio. I do list events farther than this if they are special in some way and might be of interest to people in the pbcle region. I take no responsibility for the accuracy of the information here as i'm mostly relaying it from email or typing it in from a flyer (typos *DO* happen), but will gladly fix any errors or omissions, just let me know! The web page is updated throughout the week, you can check that for the latest information. http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/rom/ set your bookmarks appropriately :) Submissions, flames, threats, hot graver pictures, and your credit card numbers to: trout@hyperreal.org -==---------------------------------------------------------------==- Fri Oct 26 FRIGHT HOUSE 5 Pittsburgh Fri Oct 26 KASKADE Cleveland Fri Oct 26 MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE PREPARTY Cleveland Fri Oct 26 SCREAM North Central WV Fri Oct 26 SHAME ON YR HELLOWEEN Pittsburgh Fri Oct 26 TRICK R TWEAK *cancelled* Lorain Sat Oct 27 CHINATOWN INN HALLOWEEN PARTY Pittsburgh Sat Oct 27 FREAKOUT 2007 Toronto Sat Oct 27 HOUSE OF THE DEAD Pittsburgh Sat Oct 27 IRENE Columbus? Sat Oct 27 LATENIGHT AT THE BEEHIVE Pittsburgh Sat Oct 27 MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE 2 Akron Sat Oct 27 SAMHAIN 07 Detroit Sat Oct 27 TRIPLE THREAT Detroit Sun Oct 28 DARUDE Dayton Wed Oct 31 MSTRKRFT Pittsburgh Oct-Nov BUZZ LINEUP DC Fri Nov 02 JUNGLE JUICE 8 YR ANNIV Detroit Fri Nov 02 VEXED Columbus Sat Nov 03 INSPIRATION Akron Sat Nov 03 TRANCEFORMERS Akron Sat Nov 08 RAVE RELIGION AND THUMPER Cincinnati Fri Nov 09 NAPS IS BACK Cleveland Sat Nov 10 21 GUN SALUTE Toronto Sat Nov 10 KONSPIRACY Detroit Sat Nov 10 NAPS IS BACK Cleveland Sat Nov 10 CLUB PARTY MONSTER Pittsburgh Fri Nov 16 DB Pittsburgh Fri Nov 16 GET UP AND DANCE Columbus Fri Nov 16 SUBSTANCE Cleveland Sat Nov 17 BOUNCE 3 Pittsburgh Wed Nov 21 LUKE FAIR Pittsburgh Sat Nov 24 BUTTERBALL 07 Akron Fri Nov 30 HARD BEATZ WITH A VENGEANCE Pittsburgh Sat Dec 01 SCIZOPHRENIA 2 Detroit Mon Dec 31 MAGIC CARPET Detroit Mon Dec 31 TRI-STATE LOVE 2 Cinci Sat Feb 16 TOUGH LOVE Cleveland Mar 25-29 WMC Miami Jul 18-19, 2008 HULLA REUNION 2008 Toronto varied TROUTS PICKS varied -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Fri Oct 26 FRIGHT HOUSE 5 Pittsburgh -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Fri Oct 26 KASKADE Cleveland TRU & DISCO Present: "BRING THE NIGHT TOUR" FEATURING: KASKADE (kaskademusic.com | Ultra Records | San Fran.) Oprning Set Provided By: Evan Evolution (Tru | Disco | Spin Cycle) When: Friday Oct.26.2007 Where: Sinergy Nightclub Address: 1213 West 6th Street (Warehouse District) City: Cleveland State: Ohio Time: 9pm-2:30am Age: 18+ Dress Code: None, Be yourself! TICKET INFO: Pre-Sale Tickets on: www.wantickets.com or Grand Poo-Bas Record Shoppe 11823 Detroit Ave., Lakewood Ohio Limited - $10 | Advance - $15 | Door - $20 VIP tickets also available, check with ticket buying locations. VIP TABLE RESERVATION: E-mail: kasredtr@hotmail.com EVENT INFO: www.myspace.com/tazmo9 www.discoproductions.org www.kaskademusic.com www.wantickets.com -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Fri Oct 26 MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE PREPARTY Cleveland The ONLY place to be this Halloween Weekend is at Masters of the Universe!! Join us for the PRE PARTY on Friday Oct. 26 At the GAME ROOM on Arlington Rd. ONLY $3 to PARTY Total Eclipse - He'll be doing some of his most famous routines (Breaking out the new shit for the party!) Tek-Know? Launching a 2x4 tag with Andy James vs. Chad Dolis vs. John K vs. Random(seed) Abduction - breaks GQEG - dnb Eric Bliss - Hard techno Trout - Hardcore DJ Shyne - Electro Chaka - Reggae Orion - Breaks Due to our venue change, this is an ALL AGES EVENT!! WHERE: The Game Room Arlington Rd, Akron (across the street from the church) myspace.com/future_noise -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Fri Oct 26 SCREAM North Central WV -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Fri Oct 26 SHAME ON YR HELLOWEEN Pittsburgh the halloween edition of the monthly shame on party djs ed um and cutups spin a mix of all kinds of dance music new electro, punk, crunk, new/no wave, rave, mashup +++ space design by thommy conroy $3 cover / 10PM - 2AM / 21+ $3 mixed drink special til 12 Venue: Brillobox 4101 Penn Ave Pittsburgh, PA -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Fri Oct 26 TRICK R TWEAK *cancelled* Lorain **** FROM THE PROMOTER **** canceled due to the owner of the Red Parrot nightclubs has passed **** away, the venue is up in the air now & is out of my hands... Trick 'R Tweak presented by Deep Widdit Productions October 26th, 2007 Doors open @ 9pm 18 + (21 to Drink) ***Drum & Bass::All night*** ***Nice party enviroment with spooky Halloween decor*** ::Halloween Costume Contest:: The winner of this will be bringing a guest to go see DIESELBOY @ TheMetropolis on Friday, November 16th, courtesy of Koala Tea. Arriveearly if you plan on entering! Venue: The Red Parrot 538 Broadway Ave. Lorain, Ohio Line-Up: robtronix sheepdog renaldo danky dave chibbity Cover: $5 - 21+ $7 - under 21 Rules: No bad replicants, no weapons, no bad vibes & no drugs... hunt down a Deep Widdit krew member for pre-sales! http://www.myspace.com/deepwiddit -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Oct 27 CHINATOWN INN HALLOWEEN PARTY Pittsburgh Pittsburgh's most legendary Halloween party is back for it's 7th round of debauchery! This year sees the return of the PeopleNYC crew to provide an extra helping of dancefloor destruction. Please RSVP to this event RSVP Yes Maybe No Comment(s) : SPREAD THE WORD... Blog this Bulletin this Saturday, October 27th, 2007 @ Chinatown Inn Upstairs: Darren Michaels (PeopleNYC) & Matt Monroe (Humanaut) tag set Kenneth:L (PeopleNYC) & Adam Oliveri (Humanaut) tag set Clevr (Breakbeat Militia) Paul Alexander & Aaron Clark tag set (Humanaut) Quartz Marc D Downstairs: DJs GH & Underground (Pittsburgh Underground) Nolan - special hip-hop set (Focused Motives) Rezon8 (Focused Motives) As always, there will be the usual costume contest with cash prizes as well as hor'dourves on the lower level. Please think twice when creating your costume as security will confiscate all dangerous and weapon-like props. Chinatown Inn (Upper floors) 520 3rd Ave Downtown Pittsburgh, PA 15219 Doors open @ 9pm $15 Cover - 21+ w/ ID Info line: 412.248.BOOO http://www.humanaut.net Promotion by: S. Simpson, Humanaut -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Oct 27 FREAKOUT 2007 Toronto DESTINY666: FREAKOUT! Saturday, October 27th, 2007 Docks Entertainment Complex www.DESTINY666.com On Saturday, October 27th, Canada's longest running producer of head boppin' leg shakin' body bangn' smile on your face events is back once again to bring you your annual serving of Halloween madness! Destiny Productions will transform the newly sound-proofed and bass enhanced Docks Entertainment Complex into a haunted world filled with sights and sounds beyond your imagination. We will create the ultimate Halloween environment, complete with the most advanced installation of sound, lighting and visuals. Join us as scary techno, death dealing trance, evil jungle and gnarled breaks artists from around the world descend onto the shores of Lake Ontario for this spooktacular annual Halloween event. ON HALLOWEEN - THIS IS THE BIG ONE! Prepare to FREAKOUT harder than ever before! EVENT FEATURES: * - The worlds largest Alpha Dyna Cord sound system bringing you over 100 000 Watts of digital sound! * - The ultimate party environment with our most freaky Halloween decor to date * - The incredible Destiny Light, Video & Laser show you have come to expect! * - Destiny666 Best Costume Contest: Win CASH and guestlist to all Destiny events for a full year! * - Four separate rooms of pounding bass showcasing all styles of electronic music including Drum and Bass, Trance, Jungle, House, Breaks & Techno! * - Multiple, fully stocked VIP drinking areas for the 19+ * - Heated outdoor smoking and chill areas! * - The 'oldskool Destiny vibe' that can't be felt anywhere else! :THE JUNGLE DANCE CAVE: presented by Destiny & Projek ED RUSH & OPTICAL - UK GROOVERIDER - UK MC RYME TYME - UK Mystical Influence Marcus Visionary Capital J Everfresh vs Crash D-Syfa ::MCs:: Caddy Cad MC JD MC Trajady :TERRIFYING TRANCE, HAUNTED HOUSE & FREAKY TECHNO: Presented by Destiny & Terror Inc M.I.K.E. PUSH - UK FILO & PERRY - USA SAM PUNK - Germany THOMAS PENTON - USA THE BEAT FREAKERS - USA DOSE THE ALIEN - USA OS/2 Rex Manning (AKA Unabomber & Mike Conradi) NuEra Walter rosati :PUREPHUNK BREAKS THE BONES ROOM: Hosted by Purephunk Recordings & The Latest Entertainment Group CHEMICAL DJS - Vancouver D-Monic DJ Tasc Dave Saddler Red Turtle Wendy Law DJ Mez :EVIL YET STILL HAPPY HARDCORE: presented by GOODFELAS DELTA 9 - USA Frisky & Hujib Gobs the Zombie Bacchus E.N.d Psyklone Scoots Tyco Virus Xphox vs Tempest DESTINY666 BEST COSTUME CONTEST: Win Cash & Guestlist to everything Destiny & Temporal Rhythm including WEMF for an entire year! Arrive early if you plan on entering the contest! Costume categories and contest details available online @ www.destiny666.com NEED TO BUY OR RENT A COSTUME? We have arranged for special 'destiny discounts' at: Amazing Party & Costume Supply - 923 Oxford St., Etobicoke - 416.259.5959 VENUE : Destiny666: Freakout, will be taking place at The Docks Entertainment Complex 11 Polson St, Downtown Toronto. This location will create the ultimate Halloween environment, complete with the most advanced installation of Sound, Lighting and Visuals you have come to expect from Destiny. * For maps and driving directions please visit www.destiny666.com Driving directions will also be made available on our infoline 24 hours prior to the event. TICKET PRICES: $25 Early Bird (First 200 Tickets @ Numb, Play De Record) $35 Next 666 Tickets $40 Last Minute Tickets More @ Door. DESTINY events are never oversold! Last year's event completely sold out! Avoid disappointment - purchase your tickets in advance! Arrive extra early if paying at the door. ONLY purchase tickets from the official outlets listed on this flyer or the official Destiny website. We will be scanning all tickets for fakes and will not honor counterfit tickets in anyway! SUPPORT THOSE THAT SUPPORT YOU! OS & OV TICKET OUTLETS: CANADA/USA All TICKETMASTER locations across Canada & USA. Charge by phone @ 416.870.8000 or online at www.ticketmaster.ca or www.ticketmaster.com ONLINE only retailers: www.Groovetickets.com www.Ticketbreak.com TORONTO Numb - 250 Queen St W - 416.599.5424 Play De Record - 357A Yonge St - 416.586.0380 Zoam - 2503 Yonge st. - 416.494.8121 Delphic - 706 Queen St W - 416.603.3334 MISSISSAUGA \ ETOBICOKE Unicus - Square One - 905.897.6900 Amazing Party & costume - 923 Oxford St - 416.259.5959 BRAMPTON Highway Bramalea City Centre 905.799.1027 BARRIE Drop The Needle 69 Dunlop St West 705.737.4624 ORANGEVILLE The Altered Native 172 Broadway Ave., Unit #1 519.942.2828 COLLINGWOOD The Altered Native 168 Hurontario St., Unit A 705.445.0228 GEORGETOWN The Altered Native 134 Guelph St., Unit #1 905.877.7884 OAKVILLE Hustler 111 Kerr St. 905.844.1688 HAMILTON Dr. Disc 20 Wilson St. 905.523.1010 ST CATHARINES MIXED STYLES 213 St.Paul St 905 984 4442 KITCHENER Shakedown 276 King St. W 519.570.0440 LONDON >From Mars 347 Talbot Street 519.438.6277 ATTENION: Destiny prides itself on producing the highest quality electronic music events in Canada! We produce these events for a mature audience and therefore do not recommend them for those under 18 years of age. ROAR in effect - If you feel you can contribute to the positive vibe and are at least 16 years of age then you may attend. This event will feature fully stocked, licensed areas for those 19 years of age or older with proper ID. -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Oct 27 HOUSE OF THE DEAD Pittsburgh -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Oct 27 IRENE Columbus? -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Oct 27 LATENIGHT AT THE BEEHIVE Pittsburgh -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Oct 27 MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE 2 Akron Myspace Group 3 rooms of unbeatable sound and lights... Here is the final line up--- DJ Rectangle vs. Total Eclipse Sykopath DJ Phiction Random(seed) DVS Van Norman Hazey Zone Smartie Roc Dez Drastik Hooty Cubby Vinny Peace Doug B - Encyclopedia Brown - Nox Evasion Anthony Rich Paul B Also, a limited number of presales are available thru me get in touch with me via myspace myspace.com/rainbowjewels $20 presale $25 at the door all ages! myspace.com/future_noise for more info. The OFFICIAL Directions to MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE 2 The party will be located at a very UNIQUE VIRGIN VENUE! the address is: 216 Navarre Rd. SW Canton, OH 44707 *Parking is ACROSS THE STREET from the venue!! Help the environment & save gas, CAR POOL! and EVERYONE PLEASE DRIVE SAFELY!! HERE ARE YOUR DIRECTIONS!!! FROM AKRON - Take 77 South Merge onto US-30 E via EXIT 104 toward E LIVERPOOL / DOWNTOWN CANTON Take the CHERRY AVE / OH-43 N exit toward DOWNTOWN Turn SLIGHT RIGHT onto CHERRY AVE SE / OH-43 Turn LEFT onto 11TH ST SE 11TH ST SE becomes NAVARRE RD SW FROM COLUMBUS - 71 N via the ramp on the LEFT toward CLEVELAND Take the US-30 exit- EXIT 176- toward MANSFIELD / WOOSTER Merge onto US-30 E toward WOOSTER Take the CHERRY AVE / OH-43 N exit toward DOWNTOWN Turn SLIGHT RIGHT onto CHERRY AVE SE / OH-43 Turn LEFT onto 11TH ST SE 1TH ST SE becomes NAVARRE RD SW FROM YOUNGSTOWN & COLUMBIANA COUNTY - Take 680 N 680 N becomes I-80 W Take I-76 W toward AKRON Merge onto I-77 S via EXIT 23A on the LEFT toward CANTON Merge onto US-30 E via EXIT 104 toward E LIVERPOOL / DOWNTOWN CANTON Take the CHERRY AVE / OH-43 N exit toward DOWNTOWN Turn SLIGHT RIGHT onto CHERRY AVE SE / OH-43 Turn LEFT onto 11TH ST SE 11TH ST SE becomes NAVARRE RD SW FROM PITTSBURGH - US-22 W / US-30 W toward I-279 S / FT PITT BRIDGE / AIRPORT US-22 W / US-30 W becomes PA-60 N Take EXIT 7 toward US-30 / CLINTON Turn LEFT onto CLINTON RD Turn RIGHT onto US-30 / LINCOLN HWY. Continue to follow US-30 W (Crossing into WEST VIRGINIA) Turn SLIGHT LEFT onto ramp (Crossing into OHIO) Merge onto US-30 W tay STRAIGHT to go onto OH-11 N ake the OH-154 exit toward US-30 W / LISBON / ROGERS Turn RIGHT onto OH-154 Stay STRAIGHT to go onto W LINCOLN WAY / US-30. Continue to follow US-30 Turn RIGHT to stay on US-30 Turn RIGHT onto W LINCOLN WAY / US-30. Continue to follow US-30 Turn RIGHT onto CEDAR ST S / US-30 Turn LEFT onto NASSAU ST W / US-30 / OH-172. Continue to follow US-30 / OH-172 Turn LEFT onto TRUMP AVE SE / US-30 Merge onto US-30 W toward OH-43 / MASSILLON Take the exit toward OH-43 N / CHERRY AVE / DOWNTOWN Turn LEFT onto 11TH ST SE / MADISON CT SE / OH-43. Continue to follow 11TH ST SE 11TH ST SE becomes NAVARRE RD SW FROM WEST VIRGINIA - I-70 W via the ramp on the LEFT toward COLUMBUS (Crossing into OHIO) Merge onto I-77 N via EXIT 180B toward CLEVELAND Take the CLEVELAND AVE / OH-800 S exit- EXIT 103 Turn LEFT onto CLEVELAND AVE SW / OH-800. Continue to follow CLEVELAND AVE SW Turn RIGHT onto NAVARRE RD SW FROM DETROIT - Take 75 South I-75 S via EXIT 2B toward TOLEDO (Crossing into OHIO) Merge onto I-280 S via EXIT 208 on the LEFT toward I-80 / I-90 / TURNPIKE Merge onto I-80 E via EXIT 1A toward CLEVELAND (Portions toll) Merge onto OH-8 S via EXIT 180 toward I-90 OH-8 S becomes I-77 S Merge onto US-30 E via EXIT 104 toward E LIVERPOOL / DOWNTOWN CANTON Take the CHERRY AVE / OH-43 N exit toward DOWNTOWN Turn SLIGHT RIGHT onto CHERRY AVE SE / OH-43 Turn LEFT onto 11TH ST SE 11TH ST SE becomes NAVARRE RD SW FROM NYC & Jersey - Take US-1 9 S / US-1 & 9 S / US-1 S / US-9 S Take the US-1-TRUCK / US-9-TRUCK exit toward I-280 / JERSEY CITY / KEARNY Turn SLIGHT RIGHT onto US-1 9 TRUCK / US-1 TRUCK / US-9 TRUCK / US-1 & 9-TRUCK Stay STRAIGHT to go onto NJ-7 W Stay STRAIGHT to go onto NEWARK TURNPIKE / CR-508 W Merge onto I-280 W Take the I-80 W exit on the LEFT toward DOVER / DEL WATER GAP Merge onto I-80 EXPRESS LN W I-80 EXPRESS LN W becomes I-80 W (Portions toll) (Passing through PENNSYLVANIA- then crossing into OHIO) Take I-76 W toward AKRON Merge onto I-77 S via EXIT 23A on the LEFT toward CANTON Merge onto US-30 E via EXIT 104 toward E LIVERPOOL / DOWNTOWN CANTON Take the CHERRY AVE / OH-43 N exit toward DOWNTOWN Turn SLIGHT RIGHT onto CHERRY AVE SE / OH-43 Turn LEFT onto 11TH ST SE 11TH ST SE becomes NAVARRE RD SW -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Oct 27 SAMHAIN 07 Detroit -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Oct 27 TRIPLE THREAT Detroit The D.E.V.I.L.,Moto,313 Family, and Hardcore 313 present: TRIPLE THREAT Live Performances: Cozmic Spore Techno www.seimicdetroit.com Detroit Cignal To Noise Acid Techno www.planetdetroit.net Detroit Jesse James Min. Techno 313 Family,Night Sneak Detroit Latondrez Techno R.U.G.,313 family Detroit Module 8 Min. Techno EOC Detroit Process 42 Industrial Detroit Sonic Disturbance Tech Breaks EOC Detroit Disc Jockeys: Rob Rage(3 tables) Hard Techno Columbus Tweaker Association Columbus,OH The Disciple Drum & Bass 313 Family,Lockdown Records Detroit,MI DMOND Hard Techno Hardcore 313, 313 Family Detroit ACO Hard Techno Hardcore 313 Detroit Gary G Techno Melodies & Memories Detroit Wafflestomper Hardcore/Freeform Diehard,Hardcore 313 Detroit Damselfly Gabber/Hardcore Hardcore 313 Detroit Dr. Whipple Freeform Hardcore 313 Detroit more TBA...... $10 w/ a costume $15 w/o Located @ Fi Nite Gallery 1370 Plum(corner of Brooklyn & plum) 18+ w/ID to enter Doors 9pm-When the sun comes up HAPPY 50th BIRTHDAY ROB RAGE!!!!! SOUND: DMOND VIDEO GAMES: 313 Family -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sun Oct 28 DARUDE Dayton 10.28.2007 KATE Worldwide proudly presents: Sanctuary @ Masque +The last sunday of every month+ sanc.tu.ary (n) . 1. a place of refuge and protection in a troubled world. This month featuring: DARUDE - Finland His name is synonymous with driving beats and unrelenting energy, has been an innovator in dance music since he smashed his way onto the scene 8 years ago with his global hit track "Sandstorm" which has been featured in almost every facet of EDM Culture. He is back with yet another genre-breaking track, the debut single, .Tell Me., from his upcoming 3rd artist album, .Label This!. which is poised to rock its way up the charts and across the globe. Don.t miss out on this international super star that is sure to incite the imagination of every person in the room & leave you begging for more! Tony DeSaro & Drew Whiteted - Dayton (KATE Worldwide) Phrenzy- Dayton (Rokit Labs, KATE Worldwide) DJ Nostalgic - Dayton (Downtown Ent., KATE Worldwide) Doug Collins - Dayton (KATE Worldwide) Join us on the last sunday of every month at our Sanctuary. A place where you can let your inhibitions run wild & your wildest dreams will manifest before your eyes. With such a troubling world outside we feel it necessary to have a place for people to come to enjoy true EDM culture & truly let go. No rules, no limits, just you & the music. Time 9pm-4am Venue Club Masque *upstairs* 34 N. Jefferson St. Dayton, OH 45424 Admission $5 early bird $10 pre-sale $15 @ the door $20 V.I.P. 18+ to enter 21+ to drink w/ proper I.D. Contact/Info V.I.P. Tables & Tickets: Tony . 937.232.0980 . tony@kateworldwide.net Questions/Promotions: Jon . 937-219-6057 . director@kateworldwide.net Web Support kateworldwide.net myspace.com darude.com byassn.com hmc.fi -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Wed Oct 31 MSTRKRFT Pittsburgh AB Coffeehouse and Activities Board host: MSTRKRFT HALLOWEEN COSTUME PARTY! 9 pm. Halloween Night, Oct 31st. Rangos Ballroom, UC, CMU. Tickets: $5 w/cmu id, on sale for CMU students at UC Info Desk starting Oct. 18th. $7 public, on sale at UC Info Desk starting Oct. 25th. For more info: http://www.activitiesboard.org/ http://www.myspace.com/MSTRKRFT For info on tickets: (412)-268-2107 Get ready for the MASQUERADE DANCEPARTY of the CENTURY brought to you by The Activities Board. LIGHTS! CANDY! COSTUMES! And get ready shake your DISCO-ELECTRO-BOOTY to the beats of premier world-renowned DJs: MSTRKRFT MSTRKRFT is capping off a series of US stints (everywhere from Brooklyn to Vegas!) with a blowout performanceHERE in PITTSBURGH before they head abroad to Europe. MSTRKRFT (pronounced 'Master craft') is the project of Toronto musician Jesse F. Keeler and studio wizard Al-P. MSTRKRFT, a shit-hot addition to the global community of sonic warriors currently smashing down boundaries between punk, house, hip-hop, grime, electro, and all kinds of electronic experimentation. -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Oct-Nov BUZZ LINEUP DC -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Fri Nov 02 JUNGLE JUICE 8 YR ANNIV Detroit FRIDAY NOVEMBER 2ND Jungle Juice Productions and Breakloose Present The Jungle Juice 8 Year Anniversary FEATURING: APHRODITE Urban Takeover, Aphrodite Records (UK) Dilemma Jungle Juice Productions/Breakloose (DET) -vs- Ronin Selecta Breakloose, Hydro, Bassdrive (AA) (Special 2 hour old school jump up set) Matt Haggerty Jungle Juice Prod.(San Diego) DJ Seoul Breakloose, D T M, Bang Tech 12 (DET) Exodus Breakloose (TOL) Teddie Breakloose (DET) Nimbus Breakloose (DET) Stonecypher Breakloose, Urban Music Refinery (DET) The Vandal Breakloose (DET) Hosted By Jungle Juices very own original Bad Boy MC PLAY & Breaklooses resident the one they call TEDDY MC Shouts go out to the orignal JJP Crew - Rampage (Matt Hagerty), Petros, & The Rude One Dutch Bwoy Doors @ 9pm 18+ w/ proper ID Cover $10 before midnight FREE JUNGLE JUICE while supplies last @ The Works 1846 Michigan Ave. Detroit, MI -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Fri Nov 02 VEXED Columbus -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Nov 03 INSPIRATION Akron -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Nov 03 TRANCEFORMERS Akron Countdown to your Tranceformation is begun.. ANIMALTEK - Omnitribe,NYC ,-minimal ,twisted, funky,phat, tekky madness. Our congrats on 12" release on German Label WIR ! Absolutely not to be missed Performance ! www.djearthian.com Funk Detective -Touch Supper Club,Cleveland- minimal step Jason is defenition of what you call "perfectionist",knowing for his precised mixing skills and exlusive music taste. Andy James - Beretta Muzik,Tek-Know ? ,Cleveland - phat tekno assault Andy need no introduction here.Come to support local talents ! Uzi -Nuts-N-Bolts Productions,Russia/Cleveland -Dark psytrance Uzi is founder of Nuts-N-Bolts Productions. His sound quite Heavy,Dark and Psycedelick, taking you on the jorney to the darkest corners of your mind.Prepare for some heavy artillery. Sweet Chaos - Nuts-N-Bolts Productions, PA -Progressive psytrance Terry been involved in many memorable party's all over NE Ohio,with his powerfull morning tunes. Expect mood changes and smile on your face. Deco by Shawn & Alex "The Arhitechts" String Art By Stan Kogan Sound by Brian " Underground Noises" Info: 440.220-2782 $15 cover Don't forget that ,this is a costume party,so be original. Spread the word ! Bring good vibes and your dancing shoes... Boom Shankar -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Nov 08 RAVE RELIGION AND THUMPER Cincinnati RAVE + RELIGION + THUMPER on nov 8th Body: Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket Thursday November 8th at the "I WILL BEAT YOU TO DEATH" house Riverside, Cincinnati (might be re-located) Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket DJ THUMPER - debut of live laptop/midi set, mash-ups of mainstream pop & rock to hardcore & breakcore beats, next day flying out for the Ravesplotation festival in L.A!!! http://www.myspace.com/thumpallnight MINCEMEAT OR TENSPEED - Philadelphia wild rhythmic noise, hard beats coming outta distortion pedals, he visited Southgate House last July if you caught that one http://www.myspace.com/mincemeatortenspeed NARWHALZ - Richmond gameboy warlord http://www.myspace.com/narwhalsofsound and a co-founder of The Church Of Crystal Light "center for experimental christianity and crafts" http://www.myspace.com/crystallightnoxqsz KYLE H. MABSON - Los Angeles party posse leader, DJ'ing the hottest L.A. events at venues such as The Smell, now chillabrating on an east U.S. tour http://www.myspace.com/kdiddybitches 6pm, write/call for details/directions. -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Fri Nov 09 NAPS IS BACK Cleveland For those of you that know Napoleon Rossi (Naps) he will be back in town Nov. 9th and 10th, and while he's back he's organized two events at Touch Supper Club. Friday the 9th is all House music with: Jason Lyman and Doug Black Stone -n- Leone Darbe Jason Soditch and Cara Bruce Mike Metz Stout XTc Nox Dwreck No cover, 10pm-close, 21+ -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Nov 10 21 GUN SALUTE Toronto Saturday, November 10, 2007 - 9:00pm to 6:00am Funhaus, 526 Queen St. West $10 advance, $10 @ door for 19+, more at door for under 19 Licensed Area, Concessions, 16+, 2 Rooms LINE UP SC@R B2B UPLIFT - Hardcore [Raw Elements UK, Raindance, History of Hardcore, Eruption 101.3fm - United Kingdom] Chiclet - Hard Trance [djchiclet.com, Viva Nightclub, Purple Heaven - Toronto, Ontario] Station aka: Opel B2B Xofer - Breaks [Embedded Entertainment, xofer.com, Goodfellaz, Deprivation Records - Toronto, Ontario] Saigon B2B Maniak - Drum & Bass [Front Left, Theory, Simpl3 - Toronto, Ontario] Scartat B2B JePh- Mungle W/Locked [De.ranged Entertainment, Biological Beats, Terror Inc., Junction Junglist - Toronto, Ontario] Sprout B2B Impact - Hardstyle [Jitterjaw, De.ranged Entertainment, D.zire Inc., Terror Inc. - Sudbury/Oshawa, Ontario] Dynamic B2B Skye - Happy Hardcore [De.ranged Entertainment, Nocturnal Commissions, Embedded Entertainment - USA.. kinda.] Gabbo - Hard Techno [Hitman Productions, Terror Inc., De.ranged Entertainment - Toronto, Ontario] Evantech - Whatever (House, breaks, ... that funky stuff) [Civil Defense, TSA, De.ranged Entertainment - Toronto, Ontario] George (Who Spins Records) - Happy Hardcore [Nocturnal Commissions, Embedded Entertainment, De.ranged Entertainment - Toronchester, Ontario] Dj Kenezo B2B DJ Tevlon D W/Mc A-Z -Jungle/Drum & Bass [Levitation - Toronto, Ont] Dj King Pin - Ragga Jungle [Ruff Plate Militia, Dub Plate Specialist - Toronto, Ont] Dj Yoshi Mojo W/MC Mensa - Drum & Bass [SolidSoldiers, yoshimojo.multiply.com - Midland] Spin laden ( the turn table terrorist) aka: Madizm - Ragga Jungle [M.U.F.F - Toronto, Ont] INFO @ 6472835474 http://www.myspace.com/derangedentertainment http://www.purerave.com/events/16483 http://www.torontojungle.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15624 -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Nov 10 KONSPIRACY Detroit Saturday, November 10th, 2007 Locked Down Entertainment presents.... K o n s p i r a c y Aaron-Carl Wallshaker Music Wilhelm K D-Version The Disciple Locked Down Ent E. Dubb Wallshaker Music Jesse James Nightsneak Brian Scott DUG Recordings/D-Version DJ Twizzler Drum & Bass Dj Gusto Nightsneak Raskalz Vinyl Vixens The Machinist Motown Depth Shane P Jazzy House Zeroxxx Detour Ent Info: $10 all night Doors open at 9pm til 6am Location: Fi-Nite Gallery 1370 Plum Detroit, MI 48207 -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Nov 10 NAPS IS BACK Cleveland For those of you that know Napoleon Rossi (Naps) he will be back in town Nov. 9th and 10th, and while he's back he's organized two events at Touch Supper Club. Saturday the 10th is mostly Techno with: Truck Stop Tourist Travis Owens Random(seed) vs. Justin Hartman Jamie Tyler Graph Thomar John K. No cover, 10pm-close, 21+ -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Nov 10 CLUB PARTY MONSTER Pittsburgh -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Fri Nov 16 DB Pittsburgh -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Fri Nov 16 GET UP AND DANCE Columbus Ohio Undaground Legendz & Blue Water In association with Platetektonix Present: AARON SPECTRE / DRUMCORPS (BERLIN) LIVE PA (Rag & Bone, Mashit, Death$ucker, Ad Noiseam, peace off, Reduced phat) Aaron Spectre started out playing drums in central Massachusetts hardcore bands at age 16. At 19 he moved to New York City and began DJing and producing Jungle, Drum & Bass, and Ambient music. He moved to Berlin at 23, released several sold-out vinyl 12"s, and began touring on the strength of his live sets. Aaron started Drumcorps at 24, adding live guitar to his sets, as always bringing raw energy and enthusiasm from his hardcore days. He's since maintained a ferocious tour schedule throughout Europe, North America, and Japan, building a solid fanbase the hard way. In between the touring madness, Aaron produces a whole range music from dubstep to jungle to ambient, each style informing the other. Aaron's recent Drumcorps album Grist won an honor of distinction at Austria's Ars Electronica, a yearly prize whose past winners include Aphex Twin, Chris Cunningham, Peter Gabriel, Sunn ((O))), Plastikman, and Gescom. Aaron's new melodic album Lost Tracks just released on Germany's Ad Noiseam FRISKE (UK) (The Horsemen, Renegade Hardware, Audio Decay) There's always something special about Loxy & Ink's HORSEMEN members: the ability to switch up styles, the hypnotic ebbs and flows of their bass, and the "fuck the mainstream, we do it our way" feel to each release from its members. Friske is a prime example of this aesthetic. He might look like a new-comer in terms of his body of releases, don't let that fool you: Friske has been a student of DnB since his formative years. Getting his start from a hardcore tape he received from his sister, he has been a fan of the sound since age 13. He was bitten by the DJ bug a few years later, ultimately landing on a weekly Kool FM London show in 2003. This stint triggered the need to produce, and he spent the following years honing his skills, working up the muster to pass a demo CD off to Ink, a move which proved correct . he has been in constant contact with Ink ever since. With subsequent tunes being passed to both Loxy & Ink, his spot within this elite crew was solidified, and he was brought to the forefront with "Troublesome", a nasty, dark number that appeared on the sampler of the "Apocalypse" LP in 2005. ALSO PLAYING: DJ Shiva // Indianapolis, Indy Dubstep SUBterror / dubstep.fm / midwestdubstep.com Aus 10 // Columbus Progressive House dKilla // Columbus Electro Breaks Vinny Bricks // Cincinnati Techno Grape Ape B2B Goodvibez // Dayton DnB/ Turntablism More TBA... -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Fri Nov 16 SUBSTANCE Cleveland A Koala-tea and B.A.D. Ass. Collaboration. Friday November 16th, 2007 "Substance" Featuring... Dieselboy Human // www.djdieselboy.com Punisher Detroit // Hej records // Seismic Terry Urban Cleveland // www.terryurban.com Still Life Cleveland // Grand Poo Bas DVS Pittsburgh // B.A.D. Ass // Koala-Tea // Phoenix Mgmt Truck Stop Tourist (Andy James and 1 Auxy) Akron // Tek-Know // Re(vision) // BerettaMusic // Lovethang Vinny Peace Cleveland // B.A.D. Ass Robtronix Cleveland // Koala-Tea // B.A.D. Ass Nox Cleveland // Koala-Tea Damien Cleveland // Koala-Tea // Mercury Lounge Abduction w/ MC Barrenzemo Youngstown & Dubois // B.A.D. Ass. // Fever // 40oz Casualties Grasshoppa Cleveland // 02 Radio // Koncrete Ohio Greg Zorn Cleveland // Jam Solid Nocturnal Akron // O.P.C. Hosted by. MC Infinity Akron // Koncrete Ohio // New Ascension // TSK // B.A.D. Ass Admission: $10 Limited // $15 Advance // $20 Door Age Restrictions: +18 to Enter // +21 to Drink Hours: 10PM . 4AM Advance tickets: www.groovetickets.com Grand Poo Bas Records 11823 Detroit Ave. Lakewood, Ohio 44107 (216) 521-9177 www.poo-bas.com Wanna be a VIP? "Get Spotted. in Spot Cleveland.s own VIP section! VIP includes NO wait in line, VIP mezzanine access, and FREE after party admission. VIP: $25 Venue: Metropolis Nightclub 2325 Elm Street Cleveland, OH 44113 Websupport: www.koala-tea.com www.brokeassdjs.com www.clevelandnightlife.net www.spotcleveland.com -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Nov 17 BOUNCE 3 Pittsburgh -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Wed Nov 21 LUKE FAIR Pittsburgh Flyer coming soon... Constantly touring the worlds most prestigious clubs such as Pacha in Buenos Aires, Bedrock in London, Red Light in Paris and Space in Miami; Luke Fair is right at the forefront of dance music today. His sets include everything from groovy house and techno to funky progressive and electro. Constantly re-editing tracks to customize his sets, Luke's ongoing desire to make every set stand out from the others is evident. His skills have won the praise of some of the industry's biggest players. He was chosen by Danny Howells and Deep Dish as their 'future hero' in DJ Mag's Top 100 issue, and most recently Luke was selected by none other than Sasha to open for him in every US city on the Involver CD release tour. Humanaut would like to invite you to an evening of upfront, forward-thinking dance music at Privilege as Luke Fair makes his Pittsburgh debut! The experience may just change your Thanksgiving Day appetite. TICKETS Presales: $12 Purchase your presales from any Humanaut member, www.groovetickets.com, or directly from Privilege (ask the bartenders). Tickets by phone: 1-877-71-GROOVE Info lines: 412-745-LUKE 412-248-FAIR Opening set by Matt Monroe High-performance Sound Bridge line array sound system provided by Impact Audio www.impactaudiousa.com Doors open 9pm For VIP Table & Bottle Service Reservations call: 412-253-7347 21+ w/ ID www.humanaut.net www.lukefair.com Privilege 1650 Smallman St Pittsburgh, PA 15219 412-253-7330 www.areyouprivileged.com -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Nov 24 BUTTERBALL 07 Akron Total Street Knowledge (TSK), Tek-Know and Luvthang are coming together to bring you a little something something to help work off all that food. Together the true men of leisure bring you BUTTERBALL 2007! Cost: $15 (maybe less) Location: Some hidden bunker near Akron Entertainment Truck Stop Tourist (Tek-Know) - You know whats up Chad Dolis (Tek-Know) - First ever live PA HeSoHi and the Luvthang Boomin System - the smoothest house PA you done ever seen, all the way from San Fran backed up by a trio of Akron's finest. If you haven't seen the system at work you have to check it out. Decepticon (TSK) - Drum and bass all kinds of in your face. James Edward (TSK) - More of the broken beat madness form the TSK soldiers. Plenty more details T.B.D....... Mark the calender. Tek-Know Info Line - 216.539.7485 -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Fri Nov 30 HARD BEATZ WITH A VENGEANCE Pittsburgh [fucking a awesome] Spirits of Change This is gonna be crazy !!!!! Spirits of Change brings you Hard Beatz with a Vengeance Friday November 30, 2007 Featuring Brisk-Hardcore (UK) DVS -hard house- Tika vs. Leash -hardcore- Vinny Peace-hard techno- Jake the Snake -jungle funk- Hooty -speed garage- More info coming soon! -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Dec 01 SCIZOPHRENIA 2 Detroit Schizophrenia II Saturday December 1 2007 Detroit MI USA Celebrating ten years of psonic psychosis. Featuring: Noize Creator >> Live // Suburban Trash // Dresden, Germany For fifteen years Noize Creator has, justifiably, reigned as one of the Kingz Of Noize. His performances are legendary... ask anyone who was around in '99 when he laid waste to legions of the midwest faithful at Even Furthur. He's released dozens of records on highly regarded labels like SixSixtySix, Surgeon16, Brutal Chud, and his own Suburban Trash. We're proud to present a live set by one of the most influential and enduring figures in contemporary electronic music - Noize Creator. Davros vs Unibomber >> >> The Final Amiga 500 Battle Live // Low Res, Addict, Distort // Madison, Chicago Davros (aka Abelcain) is one of the most ferociously creative people in experimental music. He built an entire release out of Dr. Who samples and composed a suite for harpsichord! Davros returns to his Amiga 500 roots to face off against his arch-nemesis, the dreaded Unibomber, with whom a legendary battled was waged at the original Schizophrenia in 1997. In case you don't remember, Unibomber supplied classic cuts of midwest hardcore, including Sadist and Alcoholic, to the early Distort releases... then quietly disappeared into the darkness. Now he's back to settle the score in an 8-bit grudge match 10 years in the making! Doormouse >> Addict, Distort, Sublight // Miami Since releasing his first record on Digital Hut in 1996, Doormouse has provided a nonstop barrage of retard beats and farting sounds. During the last decade he tore shit up at Schizophrenia, unleashed the Addict family of record labels on the world, made the barn famous, fronted the infamous MEAT project and released albums on Cock Rock Disco, Planet-mu, Violent Turd, Sublight and Hymen! He also moved to Miami.... Oh well, nobody's perfect. From the heart of the Midwest, via the penis shaped state in the south, comes the one man David Lee Roth cover band who furnished every home with Skelechairs. DJ Fishead >> Northern Hardcorps // Montreal He was from Winnipeg before anyone had heard of the place, and left before most could find it on a map. Ever the musical explorer, Fishead has had a techno radio show in Barcelona, been part of an audio listening installation in Oklahoma City and brought his own brand of chaos wherever he's set down his record bag. The man who brought Canadian hardcore to the Midwest, and the founder of the Northern Hardcorps, we welcome the return of Schizophrenia veteran Fishead. Xanopticon >> Live // Thac0, Zhark, Hymen // Pittsburgh Just when it would defy the laws of physics for the sound to become any more brutal or simultaneously intricate, Pittsburgh's globe-trotting Xanopticon jacks in and blasts off, sucker-punching your soul while destroying your mind... and to think, he's downed twice as many Chimays. Fanny >> Live // Sublight, Girlcum // Winnipeg It's a prairie home invasion! Since taking time out to explain fear and loathing for dummies, Fanny has been using his own manufactured madness to inflict awareness on unenlightened masses worldwide. Once known for being a former member of The Exploited, the Glasgow tempest in a teapot is now better known for being his own damn self - the original Shoebomb Hurricane! Cutups >> Wrecked, Thac0, Rhinoplex // Pittsburgh Long before there was Wrecked Distribution, there was PBS - a handful of nuts that brought some of the giants of the scene through Pittsburgh. No one really knows what the letters stood for, but we all came to realize that PBS meant Pittsburgh Breakcore Shows. Over the past decade Cutups has increased his stature and become a giant himself. On December first, he takes a break from making sure people can get the music into the comfort of their own homes and steps behind the decks to feed you what you truly need. In Broken Key >> Live // No Room For Talent // Akron It's not day, and it's not night - it's kinda half-night - and I'm scared like I can't tell ya. There's a broken lamp, a piano ashtray, a blue box and a strange key, and that voice inside is telling me that something bad is happening... and then it hits me. It's him - the man behind this place. He's the one that's been doing it all along. Now comes the time to bear witness - the rise of In Broken Key. Adjust >> Low Res // Detroit Low Res has released some of the most fiercely original electronic music the world has ever seen - all under the watchful eye of Adjust. He's been digging up the best of electronic underground for near ten years, and by taking chances on artists that showed promise he's built a back catalog that reads like a who's who of today's scene! Where would we be without 7evens by Venetian Snares or, god forbid, the Faust EP by Abelcain? Representing the motorcity... Detroit's own Adjust. $10, underground venue, all night Make it a weekend & hit up the Friday night pre-party with c64! >> A fixture on the Toronto underground scene and co-operator of Splinter Productions, c64 has been instrumental in the development of breakcore and left-field DnB in Toronto, staging numerous events over the past 7 years featuring international and local artists. Respected for his absolute devotion to the music and humble approach to the dj`ing, c64 continues to push forward in his performance-based pursuit of creative, challenging and energetic dance music. Come rock out with c64 and the FromTheGut team, and get reduced entry to the main event the following night! $5, underground venue, til 3 AM Take a step back in time with Schizophrenia veteran DJ Fishead and read what this thing is all about. http://schizophrenia.c8.com/history.html Need a ride, or have one to offer? Post carpool / ride-share requests and offers for people in your city and cities along the way at the Schizophrenia event forum. Also let people know if you're going, discuss sharing lodgings (more info on that soon), and anything else related. http://c8.com/c8/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=35 For more info, or to help spread the word, get flyers, etc, contact us by email at schizo2007@gmail.com -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Mon Dec 31 MAGIC CARPET Detroit R.U.G. & The D.E.V.I.L. present: MAGIC CARPET 12/31/07 in Beatiful Detroit city Michigan Featuring: Brill(live pa) Drum & Bass Mad At Society Rec. Las Vegas,NV COZMIC SPORE(live pa) Acid Techno www.seismicdetroit.com Detroit,MI Tim Baker House Elephant Haus, www.planetdetroit.net Detroit,MI Other family favorites: Dj Seoul Electro Bang Tech 12,DTM,Breakloose Detroit Red Pill: Blue Pill(live pa) Acid Techno www.planetdetroit.net, 313 Family Detroit,MI Ben Wu Techno/House/Electro Bang Tech 12 Indianapolis,IN MD! w/ Teddy MC Drum & Bass www.nefarious.net,Dluv Detroit,MI The Disciple Drum & Bass 313 Family, Locked down Records Detroit,MI Wataru(3 tables,2 hours!) Techno Mad At Society Rec. Detroit,MI DMOND Vs. ACO(2 hours) Hard Techno Moto,313 Family,Hardcore 313 Detroit,MI Jesse James(live pa) Min. Techno Nightsneak Ent. Detroit,MI Uncontent(live pa & DJ) Dirty Sleazy Electro 313 Family,Mad At Society Rec. Detroit/Las Vegas,NV TS 1 Techno www.planetdetroit.net Detroit,MI Hammer Brothers(live pa) Techno www.planetdetroit.net Detroit,MI Wax Drum & Bass 313 Family,Shadowbeat Detroit,MI Donald Wahn Freeform/Hardcore Hardcore 313 Detroit,MI Damselfly Gabber/Hardcore Hardcore 313 Detroit,MI VENUE INFO TO BE POSTED ON OCTOBER 27th... Doors 9pm-6am 18+w/ID to enter $10 before midnight $15 after.$5 off with out of state ID or if you come from Ann Arbor,Kzoo,GR areas or any further north than Flint....Your ID must prove this....Info:313 721 3673 THIS IS ONLY THE BEGINNING OF THIS LINEUP....We LOVE YOU DETROIT!! -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Mon Dec 31 TRI-STATE LOVE 2 Cinci In the Groove New Years Eve! That's right, those ITG boys Jason and Trip are bringing you another quality In The Groove event in the form of another NYE bash..... Tri-State Love 2! The support and turnout for Tri-State Love 1 a few years ago was so overwhelming they decided to pull the stops out and go for it again this year. The theme for Tri-State Love, the same as the last one, will be showcasing the favorite locals of the Tri-State. How do we know who the favorites are? By asking YOU. Email us your favorite locals to be taken into consideration for the most memorable night of the year....New Year's Eve. The only stipulation is all of the DJ's that will perform must be from Ohio, Kentucky, or Indiana. DJ's and agents please do NOT email us yourselves. We know most of you, and if the stage were big enough we would have all of you play, but the unfortunate truth is it's not. We are not going to overbook a lineup just to let everyone we know play, and it makes us very uncomfortable to have to tell people that we consider friends no. So, please, let us contact you as the party-goers start letting us know who THEY want to see. With that being said, start emailing your preferred listening enjoyment for NYE! Contact info as follows: nautigroove@hotmail.com j_turlington3@hotmail.com or leave us messages at any of the following MySpace accounts: http://www.myspace.com/djnautigroove http://www.myspace.com/nautigroove http://www.myspace.com/digitalpsyKosis http://www.myspace.com/djdpk http://www.myspace.com/inthegrooveproductions -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Sat Feb 16 TOUGH LOVE Cleveland -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Mar 25-29 WMC Miami Winter Music Conference March 25 - 29, 2008 Miami Beach Resort & Spa Winter Music Conference announces the dates for WMC 2008, March 25 - 29, 2008 at the Miami Beach Resort & Spa. Last year, WMC 2007 exceeded its expectations with more than 1,316 artists participating in 371 events across Miami during the WMC week. The program boasted more than 80 groundbreaking meetings, seminars and presentations during the week . furthering its 23rd tradition of bringing together the most innovative talent, esteemed professionals and newest technologies to chart the future advancement and growth of the industry. Winter Music Conference and Ultra Music Festival have partnered once again for Ultra.s 10 year anniversary event on March 28 & 29, 2008. As WMC's official closing event, delegates will receive complimentary admission to both days of Ultra. As Winter Music Conference has continued to evolve and grow, it promises a lot of new personalities in the 2008 program. Listed below are contacts for some of the areas you may be interested in, including performance bookings, panels, marketing opportunities and press relations, so you can begin planning your participation in WMC 2008. Don't miss out on what promises to be another legendary Winter Music Conference week in Miami. Registration and Travel Info info@wintermusicconference.com call (954) 563-4444 Artist Relations events@wintermusicconference.com call (954) 563-4444 Press press@wintermusicconference.com call (954) 563-4444 Marketing marketing@wintermusicconference.com call (954) 563-4444 Panels panels@wintermusicconference.com call (954) 563-4444 WMC Office: 3450 NE 12th Terrace Fort Lauderdale, FL 33334 Phone: (954) 563-4444 * Fax (954) 563-1599 Email: info@wintermusicconference.com WinterMusicConference.com -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- Jul 18-19, 2008 HULLA REUNION 2008 Toronto [probably the opera house. a wonderously shittastic venue] Hullabaloo reunion 2008!!! :) Yes! there will be a Hulla next summer www.hulla.info The next Hullabaloo reunion date is the weekend of July 18th and 19th, 2008. It's hard to argue with how fast tickets sold out for OMGH, but the party itself was such a critical and emotional success we decided to seize the left over feelings in the air and mark that date for a future reunion party. Hulla will forever be officially .over. but it was really nice to revisit it, as well as welcome a whole new generation of Hulla Ravers into the fold and we look forward to doing it one more time. The other thing is that Hullabaloo has turned into a global party, attracting patrons from all over the world, so it seemed prudent to let people start making their plans now since there could be significant investment by some in getting here. More details about the party and weekend won.t be made until early 2008, but after talking to many patrons about their need to plan ahead I.ve come up with an optional way to hold a ticket for the next event. Announcing the Hulla Friend Membership. - $25 discount off our 2008 reunion event tickets! (So ultimately you pay nothing) - Tickets for Hulla Friends go on sale ONE WEEK before regular availability (no mayhem on ticket day) - 20% discount code for all Hullabaloo box sets from the HullaStore (not including OMGH or DVD). - Special mailing list that will keep you updated on all Hulla event news - You will get sent a link to the new flyer 24 hours before it goes public (expected Feburary 2008). The price is $25, which as noted is deducted from your ticket purchase when they go on sale. There.s also some more free bonuses: If you buy your Hulla Friend Membership with the OMGH and/or Hulla DVD you get 2 FREE BONUS CDs (a $30 value!): Anabolic Frolic live @ Hullabaloo Accelerator - This was a test run for a "Happy2bHardcore LIVE" project that never saw release. A complete pro-tools live audience recording putting you right into the party. This set was also notable since it contained the Frolics' baby announcement! Anabolic Frolic @ MC Storm live @ Hullabaloo WEMF Stage 2002. The last ever Hulla stage at WEMF went down in history with Frolic & Storm together again, and the famous marriage proposal at the end of the set! Both these CDs are out of print and this is your only way to get them. They're yours free (a $30 value!) for anyone adding a Hulla Friend Membership to their OMGH box set and/or DVD order. Only a limited number of Hulla Friend Memberships will be sold and this offer can be rescinded at any time. It's not our intention to sell-out next year's Hullabaloo reunion before tickets even go on sale so we will cut these off at any time. But for those of you that get in before they're gone you're getting a great value and you can mark next year's date off the calendar knowing you've got a head start on tickets. We.ll also be using a new ticketing system for next year.s event which won.t falter under the volume of orders, so we expect tickets to sell out even faster (in hours, or even minutes?), so this will give you some breathing room. Hulla Friend Memberships go on sale tomorrow (August 2nd) at the HullaStore, along with pre-orders of the OMGH box set of recordings and Hulla DVDs -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=- varied TROUTS PICKS varied trout's picks,,,,, these are a list of random things that aren't really rave/"electronica" related but might be fun in any event. --------------------------------------------------------------------- zombiefest 2007 - oct 27-28 http://www.theitsaliveshow.com/Zombiefest2007.htm --------------------------------------------------------------------- Dude, Roller Boogie 2 - that's da jump off. Damn straight folks, it's the 2nd annual Roller Boogie. Last year Sneaky Mike and I put on a huge rollerskating party here in Pittsburgh - we got Hangar 18 of Definitive Jux to play, and drew over 300 people that night. Every person I talked to said it was the best party of the year. Sneaky Mike, the host of the event, has not only built a rollerskating rink in his house, a full stage for live performances, but also owns 70 pairs of roller skates. People can skate freely around the stage as the acts and DJs perform. Hangar 18 posted some footage from early on in the night of the party last year: on their website: http://www.heavy.com/video/11759 This year will be just as bangin'. Here's the line up: PFUNKT (headlining) filthy electro dance party: http://www.myspace.com/pfunkt The Hood Gang - Keg party rock n' roll: http://www.myspace.com/thehoodgang Hotness - Pots n' pans clap your hands synth pop: http://www.myspace.com/hotnessisthenewcrack DJs throughout the night: J Malls from the Big Throwback - Funky blasts from the pasts: http://www.myspace.com/j_malls DJ Howler Monkey - From Pitchfork fame, ya'll: http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/download/46059-dj-howlermonkey-crystal-castles-omnibus-mix-mp3 (pitchfork article) Date/Time/Location: November 9th, 2007 10:00pm - ? 5118 Penn Avenue Pittsburgh, PA 15224 Rules: 18+. 21+ to BYOB (only bring cans). No skating and drinking; skate at your own risk. Skate rentals are available or BYOSkates or blades (no Segways either, those things are stupid). Costs: $7 admission, $3 skate rental (while it lasts) Be there. P.S. If you went to lasts year's roller boogie, feel free to give testimonies of how awesome it was, AND, if you have room in your car for carpooling, post it on the wall and coordinate with each other. --------------------------------------------------------------------- November 9th-11th - EXOTICA EXPO & X-Ball www.ExoticaDetroit.com EXOTICA is an erotica convention of a different kind. Vendors and workshops by day and the wildest and sexiest parties by night. 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Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 41319 invoked from network); 25 Oct 2007 16:11:21 -0000 Message-ID: <4720C012.4050201@vrillusions.com> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 12:10:58 -0400 From: Todd User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: peebeecle References: <471FC243.8080108@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <471FC243.8080108@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.4 OpenPGP: id=BC90230C Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms040307090101080609010702" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} etymotic vs earlove? --------------ms040307090101080609010702 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit yeah, it's almost like these guys are just distributing etymotics because they look so similar. If they aren't getting them from etymotic they look close enough that etymotic could sue on patent infringement if they have it patented. The little inner stem even has the same little spacers and 45 degree cut at the end. Don't recall etymotic having a children's version though. I've used etymotics for a long time (not to sound like mr tsang, but I was one of the first people to use etymotic and turned a lot of people on to them. No dark tares could stop me!!) The first version I had you took apart and cleaned out, which made the cap loose. As evident the one time I got it stuck in my ear at one of Luke's parties :) I've gotten new ones since then that don't say to take them apart and they have a much more secure connection. Not to sound like an activist, but really people should be wearing ear protection, especially for the speaker humpers. I always get concerned when i see someone standing right next to the speakers without any ear plugs in. 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25 Oct 2007 16:44:00 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: X-list-unsubscribe: X-list-post: X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 60960 invoked from network); 25 Oct 2007 16:43:59 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=FumnRVxM71OyNDJD1BM8na/bEBq799ZJR4yTyoge7jk=; b=QkWb+APjr7MaZssQkei7mQyk6LjR//gFlLsnHUwfKilIKCkmrRj9BQqo2VXOFhRm1EsAEYbWfVyV9gjGNOSGz2Z5fJCD9/r8Vcio3qku/WyvfSlryKscTREs57tfxZpvb3ppz3o2D+vLISSUZErB9VT1nUX742FSCRT/BIb2Fyg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=k2hXfORJ+/W28wqVFtcXKSsE+X6ps6k9X0KA2cSz265WXF0IAghBHKfk2GhQfqv6O/cVtfBMF+5BicU9OrP20maWYYKtwcLESEEB5QbGFH+8oAlQEaPOGdd6rnz3vjH+b6pODPMJVSmwZnz5EzIrt8SKUMV8b2MGUukyvWL1XnA= Message-ID: <8641c6dd0710250943q381bd7fbpee5b91cce359f075@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 12:43:57 -0400 From: "[mark ]" To: doodoostank MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: {pb-cle} is it just me.... ...or does anyone else find the majority of Dubstep just boring? tom cox hipped me to this dude named Burial that sounds really interesting, but for the most part, the "big names" (skream, geeneus, headhunter) really don't excite me. someone prove me wrong, please. m -- "When love is gone, there's always justice. And when justice is gone, there's always force." --- Laurie Anderson, "O Superman" Blind faith in bad leadership is not "Patriotism". -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90578-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 25 16:55:22 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 70534 invoked by uid 1162); 25 Oct 2007 16:55:21 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: X-list-unsubscribe: X-list-post: X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 70514 invoked from network); 25 Oct 2007 16:55:20 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=AlANVArhD0QZkdl2/huoXNU2HUIr81qii+fYEL1NmnM=; b=CDVOpPVKoqPoAIXulDpsIxkMM44fZWvXEtp4TN2MpbBHJGgDt0mnpuulucJCVwIdm7SEYk6R6m0+CdovTLifwz8TX8oEBNBvS4xfKbU+NfV7uL1eJ6MPm4o14cvnBYYrZ5EuTd+cSX8Nk0cj0mqFlrY/xoOGi1b5odlQuHA0xQY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=W43yhp8chGdw2R2sH4Xe5vU7JxCCeHdaZmNmmqVbJQoYfJ3oTeGouruOxziWFY95vQIPgjQrEymjxfhS18NsbxH9w4ySlApuJvAn60MS0oGN3DO9Cbp/tO+LkURflhEI04OqDf180GOXY1WPTZa1PIRqFX03g7Foae5AqfwJ3RA= Message-ID: <5a9dc0d60710250955g23975df5teacf1f722bdfc42d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 12:55:19 -0400 From: "Jeremy Bible" To: "[mark ]" Cc: doodoostank In-Reply-To: <8641c6dd0710250943q381bd7fbpee5b91cce359f075@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <8641c6dd0710250943q381bd7fbpee5b91cce359f075@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} is it just me.... Yeah. Burial makes everyone else look simplistic. IMO they are in a completely different realm stylistically than your common dubstep. There are some other good tracks here and there but I dont think anyone else has the consist quality and originality of Burial. The artist 'Distance' on planet-mu.com is really good too though. Kode 9 and his hyperdub label that Burial is on has some really original output as well. Skream has some really good tracks and some really boring ones. On 10/25/07, [mark ] wrote: > ...or does anyone else find the majority of Dubstep just boring? > > tom cox hipped me to this dude named Burial that sounds really > interesting, but for the most part, the "big names" (skream, geeneus, > headhunter) really don't excite me. > > someone prove me wrong, please. > > m > -- > "When love is gone, there's always justice. > And when justice is gone, there's always force." > --- Laurie Anderson, "O Superman" > > Blind faith in bad leadership is not "Patriotism". > > -- > you fucked polka royalty? > did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? > > -- www.experimedia.net -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90579-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 25 17:19:56 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 88857 invoked by uid 1162); 25 Oct 2007 17:19:54 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: X-list-unsubscribe: X-list-post: X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 88829 invoked from network); 25 Oct 2007 17:19:53 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=QbWS1QB7Zu3wVolvy4QvLXjG3yKbRVYcdkzegphtpZE=; b=uImFRBdh/mQQTP5j39Skr4iV+fwyqouL2IC+S7po269WXMnRuOhg45sA1hnnOMKk2TWBzdXlndWMzIhsLzZUf7+5J/Xu24Oaj/uQFSwqWskAKg5t88ltjAMJl+5W+9AKO3pLu9q1kjljMnsueobFaLVP1HL913Hdi+Neb3L7o4Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=UBbxAFvxACxRUpvgfnWdBCyHJEHJxa3s+JsDi0rSS4KLRaD9mcl1HuCSTY432qk1j+ra7Vv6leKmIXWcOYU4AgUsHEN+X0wehD/aRC7F5zfxNlorFnM1908cpLvGdv3GxEGDX3QHwZUuifAc2xz8xytzSvtU7fK+2/ByC5reGnw= Message-ID: <8cf533f0710251019reb60254u3a16d0a2b23fc649@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 13:19:52 -0400 From: "Adam Ratana" To: "[mark ]" Cc: doodoostank In-Reply-To: <8641c6dd0710250943q381bd7fbpee5b91cce359f075@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <8641c6dd0710250943q381bd7fbpee5b91cce359f075@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} is it just me.... You know, I had this opinion as well. But Adam Bomb (ABZ) has been throwing some dubstep parties in the burgh and it really opened my eyes to the variety that is out there. While I'm with you with not feeling most of the sort of wobble type sound that most of the big names do, guys like Burial really are killing it and there's a lot more of that type of thing out there to hear. I think it's only a matter of time before the range of sound in dubstep expands more and more... On 10/25/07, [mark ] wrote: > ...or does anyone else find the majority of Dubstep just boring? > > tom cox hipped me to this dude named Burial that sounds really > interesting, but for the most part, the "big names" (skream, geeneus, > headhunter) really don't excite me. > > someone prove me wrong, please. > > m > -- > "When love is gone, there's always justice. > And when justice is gone, there's always force." > --- Laurie Anderson, "O Superman" > > Blind faith in bad leadership is not "Patriotism". > > -- > you fucked polka royalty? > did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? > > -- Adam Ratana adam.ratana@gmail.com -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90580-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 25 17:30:49 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 97761 invoked by uid 1162); 25 Oct 2007 17:30:48 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: X-list-unsubscribe: X-list-post: X-files: scully! 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I haven't heard anything that made me get all worked up. If anyone knows any that would, please let me know.... I like the griminess of it. two "[mark ]" wrote: ...or does anyone else find the majority of Dubstep just boring? tom cox hipped me to this dude named Burial that sounds really interesting, but for the most part, the "big names" (skream, geeneus, headhunter) really don't excite me. someone prove me wrong, please. m -- "When love is gone, there's always justice. And when justice is gone, there's always force." --- Laurie Anderson, "O Superman" Blind faith in bad leadership is not "Patriotism". -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --0-433136741-1193333445=:17817 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit It def gets old quick. I haven't heard anything that made me get all worked up. If anyone knows any that would, please let me know.... I like the griminess of it.
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"[mark ]" <hypnotyza@gmail.com> wrote:
...or does anyone else find the majority of Dubstep just boring?

tom cox hipped me to this dude named Burial that sounds really
interesting, but for the most part, the "big names" (skream, geeneus,
headhunter) really don't excite me.

someone prove me wrong, please.

m
--
"When love is gone, there's always justice.
And when justice is gone, there's always force."
--- Laurie Anderson, "O Superman"

Blind faith in bad leadership is not "Patriotism".

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you fucked polka royalty?
did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it?


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http://mail.yahoo.com --0-433136741-1193333445=:17817-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90581-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 25 17:31:35 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 98452 invoked by uid 1162); 25 Oct 2007 17:31:35 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: X-list-unsubscribe: X-list-post: X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 98427 invoked from network); 25 Oct 2007 17:31:34 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=qP2RE8gSX6JLqJ6zSDmUSQocREiKomOFSMv5lrPkRf4=; b=TwM7uy/AfbWDT2CEhS3m7MKaWlcNDSPxzI7kpBRcW/rVrdWsQnwVtNl6gQLhihq/xMqNrfOayrMWNsnJcF288P8aZUSpD1UKQpxfAm1HTv2IRQcbQXKGLK6y16Zu7bKaXLvEB/+VkHZFFO68u7zOqK+HQiKyors1V+5cSap1W9w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=h6/6NJ22VBCKYu6Fz90jm2MbmidrUp3Iq5OmaZWaQid58AmtI7iCmTUEyKFhujIgf+xJJZcl5reRJHnatV7k6gtj0af+7dsPy8kMAAPy//vFit44fuBraWDJeuLdIgyIx8MGZn4s9u2d8o1xfxoKEimcxM1b0wAghnhqCdBaggs= Message-ID: <8641c6dd0710251031u4c2f22b9vdbce494b3bd8e7cb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 13:31:33 -0400 From: "[mark ]" To: "Adam Ratana" Cc: doodoostank In-Reply-To: <8cf533f0710251019reb60254u3a16d0a2b23fc649@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <8641c6dd0710250943q381bd7fbpee5b91cce359f075@mail.gmail.com> <8cf533f0710251019reb60254u3a16d0a2b23fc649@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} is it just me.... yeah, the stuff ABZ dropped on that "summer mix" was pretty decent, but it didn't hold my attention the way his dnb mixes did (or yours, for that matter). i really wish i could get out and hear more stuff when guys like ABZ play around the city. i'm sure there's better stuff out there than what i'm hearing, and i don't have to go too far to hear it...my problem is there's just not enough hours in my day. m On 10/25/07, Adam Ratana wrote: > You know, I had this opinion as well. But Adam Bomb (ABZ) has been > throwing some dubstep parties in the burgh and it really opened my > eyes to the variety that is out there. While I'm with you with not > feeling most of the sort of wobble type sound that most of the big > names do, guys like Burial really are killing it and there's a lot > more of that type of thing out there to hear. I think it's only a > matter of time before the range of sound in dubstep expands more and > more... > > On 10/25/07, [mark ] wrote: > > ...or does anyone else find the majority of Dubstep just boring? > > > > tom cox hipped me to this dude named Burial that sounds really > > interesting, but for the most part, the "big names" (skream, geeneus, > > headhunter) really don't excite me. > > > > someone prove me wrong, please. > > > > m > > -- > > "When love is gone, there's always justice. > > And when justice is gone, there's always force." > > --- Laurie Anderson, "O Superman" > > > > Blind faith in bad leadership is not "Patriotism". > > > > -- > > you fucked polka royalty? > > did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? > > > > > > > -- > Adam Ratana > adam.ratana@gmail.com > -- "When love is gone, there's always justice. And when justice is gone, there's always force." --- Laurie Anderson, "O Superman" Blind faith in bad leadership is not "Patriotism". -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90582-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 25 18:04:30 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24327 invoked by uid 1162); 25 Oct 2007 18:04:28 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: X-list-unsubscribe: X-list-post: X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24297 invoked from network); 25 Oct 2007 18:04:26 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=dfELpGe80gk7pSp/hc68/nilRnr6flT5vFbjNkQtLTg=; b=plvVy1q3TuLCk5AJPgxQEMwbP8pfkW9hGs7GBkNwoqfLQc2uLAS3icnp3EP4Jsl2NgUvO6W23sljltJ7ECr9YKsVf6zIg00IchqGquFYzmNj9n2CiGwveasOn+JP6+AG0isKHA5u8ufCjfkPfubXvJCBi4WLTPTSdq5oTm3e2Qg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=t5HPVk9ib60hQxxshHR842iF4AkFMwAoDVKWwuAQOJkK5LHe0oMYMjwWD56epX1mHiuTl04iUlutzUIxRK9e7+2Qy0YsHMkJfwEfIQcIAVLO0Y282O9XROdxJm03luFTVIVHtuxMhKkhkNGFTlXLPJyAYV7lWrP2tPDh1Zdqctc= Message-ID: <4720DA94.7030709@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 14:04:04 -0400 From: trout User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doug@poobas.com, peebeecle References: <471FC243.8080108@gmail.com> <4720C012.4050201@vrillusions.com> In-Reply-To: <4720C012.4050201@vrillusions.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} etymotic vs earlove? somewhere on the site it says they were designed by etymotic. but the etymotics nowhere say they are designed for music. i wonder if doug can order them like he does the etymotics, i'd like to try a pair out. doug? Todd wrote: > yeah, it's almost like these guys are just distributing etymotics > because they look so similar. If they aren't getting them from etymotic > they look close enough that etymotic could sue on patent infringement if > they have it patented. The little inner stem even has the same little > spacers and 45 degree cut at the end. Don't recall etymotic having a > children's version though. I've used etymotics for a long time (not to > sound like mr tsang, but I was one of the first people to use etymotic > and turned a lot of people on to them. No dark tares could stop me!!) > The first version I had you took apart and cleaned out, which made the > cap loose. As evident the one time I got it stuck in my ear at one of > Luke's parties :) I've gotten new ones since then that don't say to > take them apart and they have a much more secure connection. > > Not to sound like an activist, but really people should be wearing ear > protection, especially for the speaker humpers. I always get concerned > when i see someone standing right next to the speakers without any ear > plugs in. I know pooh bahs in cleveland sold the etymotics ones, do > they still? doug? > > trout wrote: > >> hmmm creepy subject line there, but has anyone tried these earlove >> earplugs, they look alot like the etymotics >> >> http://www.earlove.net/index1.html >> http://www.etymotic.com/ >> >> i've used the etymotics for years and they hold up really well but i >> notice they roll off the high end a bit more than the low end. >> >> -- >> you fucked polka royalty? >> did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? >> >> > > -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90583-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 25 18:34:31 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 42006 invoked by uid 1162); 25 Oct 2007 18:34:30 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: X-list-unsubscribe: X-list-post: X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 41985 invoked from network); 25 Oct 2007 18:34:29 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=jftfEq6nb/xXwSDw4JxxGAPPevyD0Gca71JaH1dXy+U=; b=NMosAN8I+MQsUWXR6XtYmSBXglSWL/PmoNK7QHL9dM4jzrg8SthkHKKzYnhqH8AEhyP+yXbqXNZ1b6vnLN9u5LGpBfM/G8HFsaJhMVbVrNUY66dySmLZ04KvDlv6lprzGJnB1WBvpmmg1UTh40P8rdiHTg+43Lyq/MS05acrrSU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=QOdgDpa4Vnbso+zmPsWcHg3VfeI2oYQnA+Ia6IfyJdI/+PAqLyzHMd7glSRQoDdHIZwtSlNHzJ4PcXw4IEW6Hqi0zfav/fARNX2FnxX9NVYiVLlJYH1FGMqWRjRCEOGOauBSMYJSti4DX7bf97QfCpXIBYHUkVb+EKVDQlq67TU= Message-ID: <6ee13cb90710251134v3c3ba661v531bc86eb0141e4d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 14:34:27 -0400 From: "Mike Danko" To: Todd Cc: peebeecle In-Reply-To: <4720C012.4050201@vrillusions.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <471FC243.8080108@gmail.com> <4720C012.4050201@vrillusions.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} etymotic vs earlove? There's nothing quite like a fitted pair of etymotics. If you're going to be spending any serious amount of time with them in your ears, going with plugs fitted by an audiologist is spectacular. On 10/25/07, Todd wrote: > yeah, it's almost like these guys are just distributing etymotics > because they look so similar. If they aren't getting them from etymotic > they look close enough that etymotic could sue on patent infringement if > they have it patented. The little inner stem even has the same little > spacers and 45 degree cut at the end. Don't recall etymotic having a > children's version though. I've used etymotics for a long time (not to > sound like mr tsang, but I was one of the first people to use etymotic > and turned a lot of people on to them. No dark tares could stop me!!) > The first version I had you took apart and cleaned out, which made the > cap loose. As evident the one time I got it stuck in my ear at one of > Luke's parties :) I've gotten new ones since then that don't say to > take them apart and they have a much more secure connection. > > Not to sound like an activist, but really people should be wearing ear > protection, especially for the speaker humpers. I always get concerned > when i see someone standing right next to the speakers without any ear > plugs in. I know pooh bahs in cleveland sold the etymotics ones, do > they still? doug? > > trout wrote: > > hmmm creepy subject line there, but has anyone tried these earlove > > earplugs, they look alot like the etymotics > > > > http://www.earlove.net/index1.html > > http://www.etymotic.com/ > > > > i've used the etymotics for years and they hold up really well but i > > notice they roll off the high end a bit more than the low end. > > > > -- > > you fucked polka royalty? > > did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? > > > > -- > Todd > http://www.vrillusions.com/ > My PGP Key ID: 0xBC90230C > > -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90584-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 26 01:57:16 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 70424 invoked by uid 1162); 26 Oct 2007 01:57:16 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: X-list-unsubscribe: X-list-post: X-files: scully! 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The baby is asleep, I have a good buzz on, and the wife just brought home 20 white castle cheeseburgers. Heaven. - mike -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90585-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 26 02:12:34 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 76044 invoked by uid 1162); 26 Oct 2007 02:12:34 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: X-list-unsubscribe: X-list-post: X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 76026 invoked from network); 26 Oct 2007 02:12:33 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=+vTFL8BmM3ecT+xTYgJgpveUv+IUtI1GyiUOzeRwdOQ=; b=GwhOHjpaYTjS4e7CuyF7TZ8UvuxxaXj+mcU6gi/PeDjDz4Yn0KUk47dvFjolcxInxYGsc4WDIupV6TOOWcHz20r4nq42EIxW7UMG6239kcSKYHlA9qNVFkrMWE8VtGT8p80i7NccTQk2V89WcZ95wiPOyVaa0ijX+6RvkPesPs0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=NZzWojflZlqq3CpHsgM+Wr2lVXvbip40HKnC56T3idFfpoXuoFINnRFRy3HcKq3ErDh3f7RWBZRinGmaP+NvcLM0XgwZobMCJpBKelOd15zJKGdyadsB8eUzw1cNn15rSsu9DmhBK5d74K5E1i0fti8V4USksAwCBVa/14F2g/4= Message-ID: <47214CF8.9010308@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 22:12:08 -0400 From: trout User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pubicle References: <4181FC91-A006-472A-A97B-1825513D18F2@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4181FC91-A006-472A-A97B-1825513D18F2@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} I just thought you all should know... why not just go for the crave case? mmmmmmmm! Michael Danko wrote: > The baby is asleep, I have a good buzz on, and the wife just brought > home 20 white castle cheeseburgers. > > Heaven. > > - mike > > -- > you fucked polka royalty? > did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? > > -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90586-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 26 13:04:32 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13332 invoked by uid 1162); 26 Oct 2007 13:04:31 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: X-list-unsubscribe: X-list-post: X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13302 invoked from network); 26 Oct 2007 13:04:30 -0000 Message-ID: <4721E5BC.8030706@vrillusions.com> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 09:03:56 -0400 From: Todd User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pubicle References: <4181FC91-A006-472A-A97B-1825513D18F2@gmail.com> <47214CF8.9010308@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <47214CF8.9010308@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.4 OpenPGP: id=BC90230C Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms000506000807060506070706" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} I just thought you all should know... --------------ms000506000807060506070706 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That's when they have twins, or quintuplets or something :) trout wrote: > why not just go for the crave case? mmmmmmmm! > > Michael Danko wrote: >> The baby is asleep, I have a good buzz on, and the wife just brought >> home 20 white castle cheeseburgers. >> >> Heaven. >> >> - mike >> >> -- >> you fucked polka royalty? >> did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? >> >> > > > -- > you fucked polka royalty? > did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? > -- Todd http://www.vrillusions.com/ My PGP Key ID: 0xBC90230C --------------ms000506000807060506070706 Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIH/zCC AlowggHDoAMCAQICEBnOaT56+GercjR4qQNaMZAwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwYjELMAkGA1UE BhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMT I1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBMB4XDTA3MDEyMDA4MDA0NVoX DTA4MDEyMDA4MDA0NVowRDEfMB0GA1UEAxMWVGhhd3RlIEZyZWVtYWlsIE1lbWJlcjEhMB8G CSqGSIb3DQEJARYSdnJAdnJpbGx1c2lvbnMuY29tMIGfMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4GNADCB iQKBgQCyBZROBWIG+wjAOm7lXFoJTWKgK4ut4va3lZlJMqgsSH5pC/OLsUSsNvEgMxpCiUx7 7Yk0vb0mYusyDlbJDhHQpV5WoFQgZS/pwr9hgXFK7mJkY9PVSJVnL+Et4Lofykhgl13o93cI dkeBJwlPEYuY09/RP5aB21BdQBp9QXNrNwIDAQABoy8wLTAdBgNVHREEFjAUgRJ2ckB2cmls bHVzaW9ucy5jb20wDAYDVR0TAQH/BAIwADANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQUFAAOBgQCuGaGmCWu6CvwW D56MskhSRX5fnAdaOczha1GrRfzLkMtUQ4rmln7po8zw6crLp1qQBKZZnQIOmsOBmtoeDn06 MQwRW3EloyAd1WSg1fxOm+yJZZ9o/q2xJiont1enFAwHChJQtr/VLYwfpDTkc9Uod0275ppA RI3ffa3rjGe6ADCCAlowggHDoAMCAQICEBnOaT56+GercjR4qQNaMZAwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEF BQAwYjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0 ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBMB4XDTA3 MDEyMDA4MDA0NVoXDTA4MDEyMDA4MDA0NVowRDEfMB0GA1UEAxMWVGhhd3RlIEZyZWVtYWls IE1lbWJlcjEhMB8GCSqGSIb3DQEJARYSdnJAdnJpbGx1c2lvbnMuY29tMIGfMA0GCSqGSIb3 DQEBAQUAA4GNADCBiQKBgQCyBZROBWIG+wjAOm7lXFoJTWKgK4ut4va3lZlJMqgsSH5pC/OL sUSsNvEgMxpCiUx77Yk0vb0mYusyDlbJDhHQpV5WoFQgZS/pwr9hgXFK7mJkY9PVSJVnL+Et 4Lofykhgl13o93cIdkeBJwlPEYuY09/RP5aB21BdQBp9QXNrNwIDAQABoy8wLTAdBgNVHREE FjAUgRJ2ckB2cmlsbHVzaW9ucy5jb20wDAYDVR0TAQH/BAIwADANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQUFAAOB gQCuGaGmCWu6CvwWD56MskhSRX5fnAdaOczha1GrRfzLkMtUQ4rmln7po8zw6crLp1qQBKZZ nQIOmsOBmtoeDn06MQwRW3EloyAd1WSg1fxOm+yJZZ9o/q2xJiont1enFAwHChJQtr/VLYwf pDTkc9Uod0275ppARI3ffa3rjGe6ADCCAz8wggKooAMCAQICAQ0wDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAw gdExCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMRUwEwYDVQQIEwxXZXN0ZXJuIENhcGUxEjAQBgNVBAcTCUNhcGUg VG93bjEaMBgGA1UEChMRVGhhd3RlIENvbnN1bHRpbmcxKDAmBgNVBAsTH0NlcnRpZmljYXRp b24gU2VydmljZXMgRGl2aXNpb24xJDAiBgNVBAMTG1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFp bCBDQTErMCkGCSqGSIb3DQEJARYccGVyc29uYWwtZnJlZW1haWxAdGhhd3RlLmNvbTAeFw0w MzA3MTcwMDAwMDBaFw0xMzA3MTYyMzU5NTlaMGIxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMSUwIwYDVQQKExxU aGF3dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZyAoUHR5KSBMdGQuMSwwKgYDVQQDEyNUaGF3dGUgUGVyc29uYWwg RnJlZW1haWwgSXNzdWluZyBDQTCBnzANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAAOBjQAwgYkCgYEAxKY8VXNV +065yplaHmjAdQRwnd/p/6Me7L3N9VvyGna9fww6YfK/Uc4B1OVQCjDXAmNaLIkVcI7dyfAr hVqqP3FWy688Cwfn8R+RNiQqE88r1fOCdz0Dviv+uxg+B79AgAJk16emu59l0cUqVIUPSAR/ p7bRPGEEQB5kGXJgt/sCAwEAAaOBlDCBkTASBgNVHRMBAf8ECDAGAQH/AgEAMEMGA1UdHwQ8 MDowOKA2oDSGMmh0dHA6Ly9jcmwudGhhd3RlLmNvbS9UaGF3dGVQZXJzb25hbEZyZWVtYWls Q0EuY3JsMAsGA1UdDwQEAwIBBjApBgNVHREEIjAgpB4wHDEaMBgGA1UEAxMRUHJpdmF0ZUxh YmVsMi0xMzgwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQADgYEASIzRUIPqCy7MDaNmrGcPf6+svsIXoUOWlJ1/ TCG4+DYfqi2fNi/A9BxQIJNwPP2t4WFiw9k6GX6EsZkbAMUaC4J0niVQlGLH2ydxVyWN3amc OY6MIE9lX5Xa9/eH1sYITq726jTlEBpbNU1341YheILcIRk13iSx0x1G/11fZU8xggLjMIIC 3wIBATB2MGIxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMSUwIwYDVQQKExxUaGF3dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZyAoUHR5 KSBMdGQuMSwwKgYDVQQDEyNUaGF3dGUgUGVyc29uYWwgRnJlZW1haWwgSXNzdWluZyBDQQIQ Gc5pPnr4Z6tyNHipA1oxkDAJBgUrDgMCGgUAoIIBwzAYBgkqhkiG9w0BCQMxCwYJKoZIhvcN AQcBMBwGCSqGSIb3DQEJBTEPFw0wNzEwMjYxMzAzNTZaMCMGCSqGSIb3DQEJBDEWBBQi0xMz 55O/hhmwF2mDCb1jcy2bODBSBgkqhkiG9w0BCQ8xRTBDMAoGCCqGSIb3DQMHMA4GCCqGSIb3 DQMCAgIAgDANBggqhkiG9w0DAgIBQDAHBgUrDgMCBzANBggqhkiG9w0DAgIBKDCBhQYJKwYB BAGCNxAEMXgwdjBiMQswCQYDVQQGEwJaQTElMCMGA1UEChMcVGhhd3RlIENvbnN1bHRpbmcg KFB0eSkgTHRkLjEsMCoGA1UEAxMjVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVtYWlsIElzc3Vpbmcg Q0ECEBnOaT56+GercjR4qQNaMZAwgYcGCyqGSIb3DQEJEAILMXigdjBiMQswCQYDVQQGEwJa QTElMCMGA1UEChMcVGhhd3RlIENvbnN1bHRpbmcgKFB0eSkgTHRkLjEsMCoGA1UEAxMjVGhh d3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVtYWlsIElzc3VpbmcgQ0ECEBnOaT56+GercjR4qQNaMZAwDQYJ KoZIhvcNAQEBBQAEgYBQjdQOq6ygi8fpqo/lAwqOTxnTuXSIa/otwROPvTlFtatlHAs5p+dG i4ljs75/YkX1wllNiSDJyKOMoaENL4Sc6e5EThK1VZ7W2IbfKuGGhRzu2bNuMxjgTcpXQuGZ ukhJCnOD5q3muYgnOYfA7J15wemG02oR+4M30XDFUUDoSgAAAAAAAA== --------------ms000506000807060506070706-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90587-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 26 13:34:32 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29891 invoked by uid 1162); 26 Oct 2007 13:34:31 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: X-list-unsubscribe: X-list-post: X-files: scully! 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It'll be a good old drunken family re-union fo' sure!! It's been over 2 years since I've been home and I can't wait to kick it with everyone. 2 nights of great music for FREE and awesome drink specials too!!! Get your livers ready and remember to "Save the Date"!!! :) See everyone in a few weeks!!! -Napoleon James Tyler wrote: Since nobody's posted this up yet: For those of you that know Napoleon Rossi (Naps) he will be back in town Nov. 9th and 10th, and while he's back he's organized two events at Touch Supper Club. Friday the 9th is all House music with: Jason Lyman and Doug Black Stone -n- Leone Darbe Jason Soditch and Cara Bruce Mike Metz Stout XTc Nox Dwreck Saturday the 10th is mostly Techno with: Truck Stop Tourist Travis Owens Random(seed) vs. Justin Hartman Jamie Tyler Graph Thomar John K. No cover both nights, 10pm-close, 21+ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --0-1231311315-1193405670=:86892 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I can't wait to see everyone!!! It'll be a good old drunken family re-union fo' sure!! It's been over 2 years since I've been home and I can't wait to kick it with everyone.

2 nights of great music for FREE and awesome drink specials too!!!
Get your livers ready and remember to "Save the Date"!!! :)

See everyone in a few weeks!!!

-Napoleon

James Tyler <jhtyler@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Since nobody's posted this up yet:

For those of you that know Napoleon Rossi (Naps) he will be back in town Nov. 9th and 10th, and while he's back he's organized two events at Touch Supper Club. 

Friday the 9th is all House music with:

Jason Lyman and Doug Black
Stone -n- Leone
Darbe
Jason Soditch and Cara Bruce
Mike Metz
Stout XTc
Nox
Dwreck

Saturday the 10th is mostly Techno with:

Truck Stop Tourist
Travis Owens
Random(seed) vs. Justin Hartman
Jamie Tyler
Graph
Thomar
John K.

No cover both nights, 10pm-close, 21+



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http://mail.yahoo.com --0-1231311315-1193405670=:86892-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90588-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 26 14:42:25 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 83166 invoked by uid 1162); 26 Oct 2007 14:42:25 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: X-list-unsubscribe: X-list-post: X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 83147 invoked from network); 26 Oct 2007 14:42:24 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=Uj5r+W8jEZlrdYeneHyqWacEHR86JQQYdilLuturyHzKbRGD86bOI7nNuGFuKT04/QE/igzOileDMoAaNpTBsT1ldjtgfihlhCGrmC7GSD4H/qAHiJJzGvvaOCWRz/LWgiRzJRnZ2JgI/mOswviBjeHNvYUmDZI8hCROrAWUz5g=; X-YMail-OSG: CVqC8UYVM1ljmaIuk97ACvPfRTIvOhIe1jq1Q0q0iUnu7HoZ36_K5QlzhiVk1gENCkqEgn048LXiz2gRI_aurN_4RRVFQE6igMgINW6Bcl4bgExuS6KHR7IvzILrFB89hnHmtuQSXMGDxYc- Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 07:42:23 -0700 (PDT) From: dave clevr To: "\[mark \]" , doodoostank In-Reply-To: <8641c6dd0710250943q381bd7fbpee5b91cce359f075@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1098598661-1193409743=:59185" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <558939.59185.qm@web84207.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} is it just me.... --0-1098598661-1193409743=:59185 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit for the most part i agree. i was excited about it at first because i can throw it in with my sets. mooses cd has a lot on it and its ok to listen to but it is pretty boring. im over it and its still wet behind the ears. i see it the same way i see 2step and breakstep... a fad. people looking to do something different. the basics are always gonna be the strongest... and for a good reason. "[mark ]" wrote: ...or does anyone else find the majority of Dubstep just boring? tom cox hipped me to this dude named Burial that sounds really interesting, but for the most part, the "big names" (skream, geeneus, headhunter) really don't excite me. someone prove me wrong, please. m -- "When love is gone, there's always justice. And when justice is gone, there's always force." --- Laurie Anderson, "O Superman" Blind faith in bad leadership is not "Patriotism". -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? --0-1098598661-1193409743=:59185 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

for the most part i agree. i was excited about it at first because i can throw it in with my sets. mooses cd has a lot on it and its ok to listen to but it is pretty boring. im over it and its still wet behind the ears. i see it the same way i see 2step and breakstep... a fad. people looking to do something different. the basics are always gonna be the strongest... and for a good reason.
 


"[mark ]" <hypnotyza@gmail.com> wrote:
...or does anyone else find the majority of Dubstep just boring?

tom cox hipped me to this dude named Burial that sounds really
interesting, but for the most part, the "big names" (skream, geeneus,
headhunter) really don't excite me.

someone prove me wrong, please.

m
--
"When love is gone, there's always justice.
And when justice is gone, there's always force."
--- Laurie Anderson, "O Superman"

Blind faith in bad leadership is not "Patriotism".

--
you fucked polka royalty?
did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it?


--0-1098598661-1193409743=:59185-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90589-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 26 15:21:42 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15631 invoked by uid 1162); 26 Oct 2007 15:21:42 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: X-list-unsubscribe: X-list-post: X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15573 invoked from network); 26 Oct 2007 15:21:42 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=FdJwnVZpzSl+crhe5ul7HrEprlE3LpXEbK+k2ebZC+A=; b=HJPvYVMw353/jpOLPhKNgYTUp9dwCnAXxfjlNKjzlWnfc24Yk1NB3c0AlMU//luE80KiPBHwmkQcfOYwXbWpfL9Fpxmzh9pbDFu0plDNDAo/3BNio7vCtPqHgoIOqTDjST6WGIoQNEzxiPuMGl8mbWPGY7c6CS8onZdMbxmI46c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=jBkEv8/XwL7vHWNcjkdEk2pQ2Yln49FnHKoBWTciMqCEvZld5QLmTF/yX7I9Gmb02JpmDkEmxmPZWkJhQg+iQTOvAcc1xpHm0f5KJuoqqhFFQ9Np6eQZKaRGkZrY1kL6xeHYq+g9MsJSC+ZQiTavDET03DcExsAJAEXueM4CLsE= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 11:21:41 -0400 From: "Ed Rodgers" To: Todd Cc: Pubicle In-Reply-To: <4721E5BC.8030706@vrillusions.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4338_32080501.1193412101264" References: <4181FC91-A006-472A-A97B-1825513D18F2@gmail.com> <47214CF8.9010308@gmail.com> <4721E5BC.8030706@vrillusions.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} I just thought you all should know... ------=_Part_4338_32080501.1193412101264 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline screw all you people that have ready access to whiteys. and neglect to take advantage of it. i would eat 10 jalapeno cheeseburgers every night as a snack if i still lived there. every time i'm in columbus i go to white castle every night. them shits are good... and them shits cause them shits the next day... but it's all worth it, like getting your salad tossed by a chick with braces disclaimer: 1108 thugz reference... i've never had my salad tossed by a chick with braces On 10/26/07, Todd wrote: > > That's when they have twins, or quintuplets or something :) > > trout wrote: > > why not just go for the crave case? mmmmmmmm! > > > > Michael Danko wrote: > >> The baby is asleep, I have a good buzz on, and the wife just brought > >> home 20 white castle cheeseburgers. > >> > >> Heaven. > >> > >> - mike > >> > >> -- > >> you fucked polka royalty? > >> did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > you fucked polka royalty? > > did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? > > > > -- > Todd > http://www.vrillusions.com/ > My PGP Key ID: 0xBC90230C > > ------=_Part_4338_32080501.1193412101264 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
screw all you people that have ready access to whiteys.
 
and neglect to take advantage of it.
 
i would eat 10 jalapeno cheeseburgers every night as a snack if i still lived there.  every time i'm in columbus i go to white castle every night.
 
them shits are good... and them shits cause them shits the next day... but it's all worth it, like getting your salad tossed by a chick with braces
 
disclaimer: 1108 thugz reference... i've never had my salad tossed by a chick with braces

 
On 10/26/07, Todd <vr@vrillusions.com> wrote:
That's when they have twins, or quintuplets or something :)

trout wrote:
> why not just go for the crave case?  mmmmmmmm!
>
> Michael Danko wrote:
>> The baby is asleep, I have a good buzz on, and the wife just brought
>> home 20 white castle cheeseburgers.
>>
>> Heaven.
>>
>> - mike
>>
>> --
>> you fucked polka royalty?
>> did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it?
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> you fucked polka royalty?
> did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it?
>

--
Todd
http://www.vrillusions.com/
My PGP Key ID: 0xBC90230C


------=_Part_4338_32080501.1193412101264-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90590-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 26 16:00:50 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 50514 invoked by uid 1162); 26 Oct 2007 16:00:49 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: X-list-unsubscribe: X-list-post: X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 50489 invoked from network); 26 Oct 2007 16:00:49 -0000 Message-ID: <35808.151.201.138.129.1193413673.squirrel@webmail.chemlab.org> In-Reply-To: References: <4181FC91-A006-472A-A97B-1825513D18F2@gmail.com> <47214CF8.9010308@gmail.com> <4721E5BC.8030706@vrillusions.com> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 11:47:53 -0400 (EDT) From: "Denae" To: "Ed Rodgers" Cc: "Todd" , "Pubicle" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.5.1 [CVS] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} I just thought you all should know... I bought the frozen white castle burgers from Walmart and they are tasty little devils! On Fri, October 26, 2007 11:21 am, Ed Rodgers wrote: > screw all you people that have ready access to whiteys. > > and neglect to take advantage of it. > > i would eat 10 jalapeno cheeseburgers every night as a snack if i still > lived there. every time i'm in columbus i go to white castle every > night. > > them shits are good... and them shits cause them shits the next day... > but it's all worth it, like getting your salad tossed by a chick with > braces > > disclaimer: 1108 thugz reference... i've never had my salad tossed by a > chick with braces > > > On 10/26/07, Todd wrote: > >> >> That's when they have twins, or quintuplets or something :) >> >> >> trout wrote: >>> why not just go for the crave case? mmmmmmmm! >>> >>> Michael Danko wrote: >>> >>>> The baby is asleep, I have a good buzz on, and the wife just >>>> brought home 20 white castle cheeseburgers. >>>> >>>> Heaven. >>>> >>>> >>>> - mike >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when >>>> you were hittin' it? >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you >>> were hittin' it? >>> >> >> -- >> Todd >> http://www.vrillusions.com/ >> My PGP Key ID: 0xBC90230C >> >> >> > -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90591-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Oct 27 01:57:32 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 61552 invoked by uid 1162); 27 Oct 2007 01:57:31 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: X-list-unsubscribe: X-list-post: X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 61520 invoked from network); 27 Oct 2007 01:57:30 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=hvVmTCBVUc7tg11z5WuZagn7Mzz9wgQVxbv18dOR4w2FreKsrPQ+3ODF8eUh0KHwgpc6kfzkbrAxoadTOHDiSR1SBOhkde6ySjhFI1exhxF0vcIlD3j7Gvf8b8HIw2sKFoz9Sb3rnXoy/xPKnyK18WQWY0CuB7AJtmgBB5KeMqk= ; X-YMail-OSG: j5N7Rx0VM1lLqPkDettL.W.nrWDOTJqieuG9vrpZ.BSr9UmKDc.owXIBBreeju4YYbbhxlMq1IzoOv_beAL_xAkF5hP8hO5p3.4Y.1I5TtzsDlVCrdV5oObyvfHmn_Bsm2Zf5wzMB1_nzmc- Message-ID: <47229AE8.7030604@sbcglobal.net> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 21:56:56 -0400 From: Paul Berezansky User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doodoostank References: <8641c6dd0710250943q381bd7fbpee5b91cce359f075@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8641c6dd0710250943q381bd7fbpee5b91cce359f075@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} is it just me.... I'm not a big fan at all. I don't even consider it a separate genre. It's ok as part of a breaks/dnb mix. [mark ] wrote: > ...or does anyone else find the majority of Dubstep just boring? > > tom cox hipped me to this dude named Burial that sounds really > interesting, but for the most part, the "big names" (skream, geeneus, > headhunter) really don't excite me. > > someone prove me wrong, please. > > m > -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90592-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Oct 27 01:58:46 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 62036 invoked by uid 1162); 27 Oct 2007 01:58:45 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: X-list-unsubscribe: X-list-post: X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 62020 invoked from network); 27 Oct 2007 01:58:45 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=tjYMv+cMLRAn7YRFCZohdsmrhNEGsAaRPxtgqU3UCdAOFEuNmOdBhDw2HgXQBC/e7aDqqq2Pk8RoMQADpVKy6pX1F8lcie6gbuIJkPKKBaU/lm1y8Yue1m+u+EocC0o7Bf2k0oc/3UY7aK2tGUsQW/PjUiXqDveXjZ1cEePQVbg= ; X-YMail-OSG: Z_aBvi4VM1neVP3pWd5D5HFf194fJEPGuOleofKTZ2fyR0S_M.7o211Au9XsJIHGJWmRc_HWio_V6D9.uhNNd6F.RaV4FuvXWObis5O3l1dPaLWADwM- Message-ID: <47229B33.20502@sbcglobal.net> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 21:58:11 -0400 From: Paul Berezansky User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pubicle References: <4181FC91-A006-472A-A97B-1825513D18F2@gmail.com> <47214CF8.9010308@gmail.com> <4721E5BC.8030706@vrillusions.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} I just thought you all should know... You don't take advantage of whiteys, they take advantage of you. Ed Rodgers wrote: > screw all you people that have ready access to whiteys. > > and neglect to take advantage of it. > > i would eat 10 jalapeno cheeseburgers every night as a snack if i still > lived there. every time i'm in columbus i go to white castle every night. > > them shits are good... and them shits cause them shits the next day... but > it's all worth it, like getting your salad tossed by a chick with braces > > disclaimer: 1108 thugz reference... i've never had my salad tossed by a > chick with braces > > > On 10/26/07, Todd wrote: > >> That's when they have twins, or quintuplets or something :) >> >> trout wrote: >> >>> why not just go for the crave case? mmmmmmmm! >>> >>> Michael Danko wrote: >>> >>>> The baby is asleep, I have a good buzz on, and the wife just brought >>>> home 20 white castle cheeseburgers. >>>> >>>> Heaven. >>>> >>>> - mike >>>> >>>> -- >>>> you fucked polka royalty? >>>> did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> you fucked polka royalty? >>> did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? >>> >>> >> -- >> Todd >> http://www.vrillusions.com/ >> My PGP Key ID: 0xBC90230C >> >> >> > > -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90593-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Oct 27 18:40:52 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 88844 invoked by uid 1162); 27 Oct 2007 18:40:52 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: X-list-unsubscribe: X-list-post: X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 88821 invoked from network); 27 Oct 2007 18:40:51 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=EOGzlE0RXvb5c+eqRfyl+r1s35iig4RHmDgwIWu1WW1+SmIPwC7M+aJRy+QOeTXw28ItECmKPsN/a9htEiKKXLAMAR0wW6MRNqnk3nJ14iJqjGVB/TFUEl2xVWWWm367flLwySxllWrMC4IXOhlGZnKivQYBeYAH91ty9qYIRx8=; X-YMail-OSG: y7Iq8bwVM1nuUxWjo_aGS94HmZp04MGJRZ7rGhTk.wyyVcNupqY8c8uB4LQzlbdbGiQVUbM._2W7857l9dAOe5TpbVBILewXQehng9tMLMwS43bpl7mAKcKJ.QbiGPOoS70lPWolxF0HZR8- Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 11:40:50 -0700 (PDT) From: dave clevr To: Ed Rodgers , Todd Cc: Pubicle In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-235372730-1193510450=:87122" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <570521.87122.qm@web84212.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} I just thought you all should know... --0-235372730-1193510450=:87122 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit getting your salad tossed is fun... once they get thru the forrest. rave on Ed Rodgers wrote: screw all you people that have ready access to whiteys. and neglect to take advantage of it. i would eat 10 jalapeno cheeseburgers every night as a snack if i still lived there. every time i'm in columbus i go to white castle every night. them shits are good... and them shits cause them shits the next day... but it's all worth it, like getting your salad tossed by a chick with braces disclaimer: 1108 thugz reference... i've never had my salad tossed by a chick with braces On 10/26/07, Todd wrote: That's when they have twins, or quintuplets or something :) trout wrote: > why not just go for the crave case? mmmmmmmm! > > Michael Danko wrote: >> The baby is asleep, I have a good buzz on, and the wife just brought >> home 20 white castle cheeseburgers. >> >> Heaven. >> >> - mike >> >> -- >> you fucked polka royalty? >> did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? >> >> > > > -- > you fucked polka royalty? > did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? > -- Todd http://www.vrillusions.com/ My PGP Key ID: 0xBC90230C --0-235372730-1193510450=:87122 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
getting your salad tossed is fun... once they get thru the forrest. rave on
 


Ed Rodgers <ed.rodgers@gmail.com> wrote:
screw all you people that have ready access to whiteys.
 
and neglect to take advantage of it.
 
i would eat 10 jalapeno cheeseburgers every night as a snack if i still lived there.  every time i'm in columbus i go to white castle every night.
 
them shits are good... and them shits cause them shits the next day... but it's all worth it, like getting your salad tossed by a chick with braces
 
disclaimer: 1108 thugz reference... i've never had my salad tossed by a chick with braces

 
On 10/26/07, Todd <vr@vrillusions.com> wrote:
That's when they have twins, or quintuplets or something :)

trout wrote:
> why not just go for the crave case?  mmmmmmmm!
>
> Michael Danko wrote:
>> The baby is asleep, I have a good buzz on, and the wife just brought
>> home 20 white castle cheeseburgers.
>>
>> Heaven.
>>
>> - mike
>>
>> --
>> you fucked polka royalty?
>> did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it?
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> you fucked polka royalty?
> did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it?
>

--
Todd
http://www.vrillusions.com/
My PGP Key ID: 0xBC90230C



--0-235372730-1193510450=:87122-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90594-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Oct 28 06:58:56 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 60587 invoked by uid 1162); 28 Oct 2007 06:58:55 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: X-list-unsubscribe: X-list-post: X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 60571 invoked from network); 28 Oct 2007 06:58:55 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=22tGRoSuwHO3VRyo7aIGtMcca0rG1OYb0Nf84j9dIUM=; b=rXKc6wM8rhagHrK6ZEqnDANNteiBl6hVf536IQNDaE/vF0r5GcwqoOdYssqFw76f3g2Mg2yqE1YDxiVRLgQToy/fUYukO40ijcdgPjZ+RihVI0WG4I/df5jYFVA5Jjn5a0Z3lf5uEoTPuEhMMrVQ+us8JobpgODpT41a1zzaLCY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=onjkboZ7rtwKd8TgflPVgiUjhT26dI2gfpnFgGQP0Mah7/9hOF9ZbG3Ndx3G7p39UuaBFv8Zd3AhXF7+NM4N3LOTn9AojLJHHzEvHRFXliQNCmwkMa6cvBxsCAsty/MDnWltuZMqjeDZAZw/txy5YQvwh2h2qMPKRXYM/5EXE7M= Message-ID: <5714e9010710272358i401e8411xd0ffc4da8978e6f0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 02:58:53 -0400 From: "Jessica Leigh" To: "Michael Danko" Cc: PB-CLE-RAVES@HYPERREAL.ORG In-Reply-To: <4181FC91-A006-472A-A97B-1825513D18F2@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <4181FC91-A006-472A-A97B-1825513D18F2@gmail.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} I just thought you all should know... Youre all sick!.. On 10/25/07, Michael Danko wrote: > The baby is asleep, I have a good buzz on, and the wife just brought > home 20 white castle cheeseburgers. > > Heaven. > > - mike > > -- > you fucked polka royalty? > did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? > > -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90595-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Oct 28 07:08:31 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 62953 invoked by uid 1162); 28 Oct 2007 07:08:31 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: X-list-unsubscribe: X-list-post: X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 62936 invoked from network); 28 Oct 2007 07:08:30 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=cYHyEHYCEW2XeBqe/FQo+VLmW1l6jtlKb4qZDrUPGoQ=; b=Qnlpmsx2r38vFEyKG88uOnRm+rklDx4SVZOPZYgh5vf2Vv9kTvqxrLrJYwBScrMXrPOmjA/b27kThaq3OIWPs2QMKsnxY6rgVXWyhGCv4p1vZQuGrxktsLas/pZ3xmM2kl10N7eSZrmB+QshWQmjDkVRW6TFeuELtc7R6bOQGSI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=J3A8xLelMtzVpa3+imDaw50F85bh/7z9tadoqcqQhWBmEegBl+prMpaNj4+sUmcpY4Da4ggVGR0TmWPpcHPultulKIcEyyM4KCHL3dl+Z/VhFKpa43rm/SekKQ8Io5oSxmpU3KUzET83NmeETguM4HNIcj/A72C3TVeXf8vyTFw= Message-ID: <5714e9010710280008n350c4d92q77afc6e1074a1787@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 03:08:29 -0400 From: "Jessica Leigh" To: Two Cc: "Mike Destein" , pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <815607.91018.qm@web60412.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <192367.42104.qm@web45506.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <815607.91018.qm@web60412.mail.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: {pb-cle} local meth dealer report wait wait wait.... is this the same mike that used to live with jungle mike back in the days (in pittsburgh)?????? why does this name ring a bell with me? ps. why are these flooks boosting my box with useless shit too? drink sparks for jesus! On 10/24/07, Two wrote: > hey mike, buddy..... I think you're shoddy facts are the kinda things that > get you fucked up.... Where ya living? I am sure Zone would like to come > see ya. > > > Mike Destein wrote: Dj zone a.k.a. i > fucking hope to satan that this mix holds together though it most likely > won't is nothing more than the son of billy bob thornton and the preferred > dealer of the pittsburgh steelers !!!! > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90596-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 29 22:45:40 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 74098 invoked by uid 1162); 29 Oct 2007 22:45:39 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: X-list-unsubscribe: X-list-post: X-files: scully! Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 74075 invoked from network); 29 Oct 2007 22:45:38 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=ameritech.net; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=i+5eC26D1akbvHttVPmXKwAYV3VjuJQDyCA+ReJUlpkzLnohmu5aPIu1nrSFP+3Kqmx99DRzecNcqewaH181v+9wtn9bx8N0AQHOaJEg+BnCOcQ336gWkbZreMV/OTybK2Mr/WK+9BPjG80YOwJtCHktBksw+p5rjQEqy20HSrk= ; X-YMail-OSG: mWmKTj0VM1lIVt9EeYDd4wHFoti01t0VENUIQywynIj9aoYhCk_8nVIvHw.A06f14cEaCZGKHq9Lk6GQtQBB4XnXs7d9mcA7pY6mD2dNEplu3YRiBbO69hlsjwsK5Q-- Message-ID: <003d01c81a7d$18bf17f0$4301a8c0@checkout> From: "Doug Burkhart" To: Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:43:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003A_01C81A5B.90E0B210" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: {pb-cle} Vinyl May Be Final Nail in CD's Coffin ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C81A5B.90E0B210 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.wired.com/entertainment/music/commentary/listeningpost/2007/10= /listeningpost_1029 As counterintuitive as it may seem in this age of iPods and digital = downloads, vinyl -- the favorite physical format of indie music = collectors and audiophiles -- is poised to re-enter the mainstream, or = at least become a major tributary. Talk to almost anyone in the music business' vital indie and DJ scenes = and you'll encounter a uniformly optimistic picture of the vinyl market. "I'm hearing from labels and distributors that vinyl is way up," said = Ian Connelly, client relations manager of independent distributor = alliance IODA, in an e-mail interview. "And not just the boutique, = limited-edition colored vinyl that Jesu/Isis-style fans are hot for = right now." Pressing plants are ramping up production, but where is the demand = coming from? Why do so many people still love vinyl, even though its = bulky, analog nature is anathema to everything music is supposed to be = these days? Records, the vinyl evangelists will tell you, provide more = of a connection between fans and artists. And many of today's music fans = buy 180-gram vinyl LPs for home listening and MP3s for their portable = devices. "For many of us, and certainly for many of our artists, the vinyl is the = true version of the release," said Matador's Patrick Amory. "The size = and presence of the artwork, the division into sides, the better sound = quality, above all the involvement and work the listener has to put in, = all make it the format of choice for people who really care about = music." Because these music fans also listen using portable players and = computers, Matador and other labels include coupons in record packaging = that can be used to download MP3 versions of the songs. Amory called the = coupon program "hugely popular." Portability is no longer any reason to stick with CDs, and neither is = audio quality. Although vinyl purists are ripe for parody, they're right = about one thing: Records can sound better than CDs. Although CDs have a wider dynamic range, mastering houses are often = encouraged to compress the audio on CDs to make it as loud as possible: = It's the so-called loudness war. Since the audio on vinyl can't be = compressed to such extremes, records generally offer a more nuanced = sound. Another reason for vinyl's sonic superiority is that no matter how high = a sampling rate is, it can never contain all of the data present in an = analog groove, Nyquist's theorem to the contrary. "The digital world will never get there," said Chris Ashworth, owner of = United Record Pressing, the country's largest record pressing plant.=20 Golden-eared audiophiles have long testified to vinyl's warmer, richer = sound. And now demand for vinyl is on the rise. Pressing plants that = were already at capacity are staying there, while others are cranking = out more records than they did last year in order to keep pace with = demand.=20 Don MacInnis, owner of Record Technology in Camarillo, California, = predicts production will be up 25 percent over last year by the end of = 2007. And he's not talking about small runs of dance music for DJs, but = the whole gamut of music: "new albums, reissues, majors and indies ... = jazz, blues, classical, pop and a lot of (classic) rock." Turntables are hot again as well. Insound, an online music retailer that = recently began selling USB turntables alongside vinyl, can't keep them = in stock, according to the company's director, Patrick McNamara. And on Oct. 17, Amazon.com launched a vinyl-only section stocked with a = growing collection of titles and several models of record players. Big labels still aren't buying the vinyl comeback, but it wouldn't be = the first time the industry failed to identify a new trend in the music = biz. "Our numbers, at least, don't really point to a resurgence," said = Jonathan Lamy, the Recording Industry Association of America's director = of communications. Likewise, Nielsen SoundScan, which registered a = slight increase in vinyl sales last year, nonetheless showed a 43 = percent decrease between 2000 and 2006. But when it comes to vinyl, these organizations don't really know what = they're talking about. The RIAA's numbers are misleading because its = member labels are only now beginning to react to the growing demand for = vinyl. As for SoundScan, its numbers don't include many of the small = indie and dance shops where records are sold. More importantly, neither = organization tracks used records sold at stores or on eBay -- arguably = the central clearinghouse for vinyl worldwide. Vinyl's popularity has been underreported before. "The Consumer Electronics Association said that only 100,000 turntables = were sold in 2004. Numark alone sold more than that to pro DJs that = year," said Chris Roman, product manager for Numark. And the vinyl-MP3 tag team might just hasten the long-predicted death of = the CD. San Francisco indie band The Society of Rockets, for example, plans to = release its next album strictly on vinyl and as MP3 files. "Having just gone through the process of mastering our new album for = digital and for vinyl, I can say it is completely amazing how different = they really sound," said lead singer and guitarist Joshua Babcock in an = e-mail interview. "The way the vinyl is so much better and warmer and = more interesting to listen to is a wonder." - - - Eliot Van Buskirk has covered digital music since 1998, after seeing the = world's first MP3 player sitting on a colleague's desk. He plays bass = and rides a bicycle. ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C81A5B.90E0B210 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

http://www.wired.com/entertainment/music/com= mentary/listeningpost/2007/10/listeningpost_1029

 

As counterintuitive as it may seem in this age of iPods and digital=20 downloads, vinyl -- the favorite physical format of indie music = collectors and=20 audiophiles -- is poised to re-enter the mainstream, or at least become = a major=20 tributary.

Talk to almost anyone in the music business' vital indie and DJ = scenes and=20 you'll encounter a uniformly optimistic picture of the vinyl market.

"I'm hearing from labels and distributors that vinyl is way up," said = Ian=20 Connelly, client relations manager of independent distributor alliance = IODA, in=20 an e-mail interview. "And not just the boutique, limited-edition colored = vinyl=20 that Jesu/Isis-style fans are hot for = right=20 now."

Pressing plants are ramping up production, but where is the demand = coming=20 from? Why do so many people still love vinyl, even though its bulky, = analog=20 nature is anathema to everything music is supposed to be these days? = Records,=20 the vinyl evangelists will tell you, provide more of a connection = between fans=20 and artists. And many of today's music fans buy 180-gram vinyl LPs for = home=20 listening and MP3s for their portable devices.

"For many of us, and certainly for many of our artists, the vinyl is = the true=20 version of the release," said Matador's Patrick Amory. "The size and = presence of=20 the artwork, the division into sides, the better sound quality, above = all the=20 involvement and work the listener has to put in, all make it the format = of=20 choice for people who really care about music."

Because these music fans also listen using portable players and = computers,=20 Matador and other labels include coupons in record packaging that can be = used to=20 download MP3 versions of the songs. Amory called the coupon program = "hugely=20 popular."

Portability is no longer any reason to stick with CDs, and neither is = audio=20 quality. Although vinyl=20 purists are ripe for parody, they're right about one thing: Records = can=20 sound better than CDs.

Although CDs have a wider dynamic range, mastering houses are often=20 encouraged to compress the audio on CDs to make it as loud as possible: = It's the=20 so-called loudness = war.=20 Since the audio on vinyl can't be compressed to such extremes, records = generally=20 offer a more nuanced sound.

Another reason for vinyl's sonic superiority is that no matter how = high a=20 sampling rate is, it can never contain all of the data present in an = analog=20 groove, Nyquist's=20 theorem to the contrary.

"The digital world will never get there," said Chris Ashworth, owner = of=20 United Record Pressing, the country's largest record pressing plant. =

Golden-eared audiophiles have long testified to vinyl's warmer, = richer sound.=20 And now demand for vinyl is on the rise. Pressing plants that were = already at=20 capacity are staying there, while others are cranking out more records = than they=20 did last year in order to keep pace with demand.

Don MacInnis, owner of Record Technology in Camarillo, California, = predicts=20 production will be up 25 percent over last year by the end of 2007. And = he's not=20 talking about small runs of dance music for DJs, but the whole gamut of = music:=20 "new albums, reissues, majors and indies ... jazz, blues, classical, pop = and a=20 lot of (classic) rock."

Turntables are hot again as well. Insound, an online music retailer = that=20 recently began selling USB turntables alongside vinyl, can't keep them = in stock,=20 according to the company's director, Patrick McNamara.

And on Oct. 17, Amazon.com launched a vinyl-only=20 section stocked with a growing collection of titles and several = models of=20 record players.

Big labels still aren't buying the vinyl comeback, but it wouldn't be = the=20 first time the industry failed to identify a new trend in the music = biz.

"Our numbers, at least, don't really point to a resurgence," said = Jonathan=20 Lamy, the Recording Industry Association of America's director of=20 communications. Likewise, Nielsen SoundScan, which registered a slight = increase=20 in vinyl sales last year, nonetheless showed a 43 percent decrease = between 2000=20 and 2006.

But when it comes to vinyl, these organizations don't really know = what=20 they're talking about. The RIAA's numbers are misleading because its = member=20 labels are only now beginning to react to the growing demand for vinyl. = As for=20 SoundScan, its numbers don't include many of the small indie and dance = shops=20 where records are sold. More importantly, neither organization tracks = used=20 records sold at stores or on eBay -- arguably the central clearinghouse = for=20 vinyl worldwide.

Vinyl's popularity has been underreported before.

"The Consumer Electronics Association said that only 100,000 = turntables were=20 sold in 2004. Numark alone sold more than that to pro DJs that year," = said Chris=20 Roman, product manager for Numark.

And the vinyl-MP3 tag team might just hasten the long-predicted=20 death of the CD.

San Francisco indie band The Society of = Rockets,=20 for example, plans to release its next album strictly on vinyl and as = MP3=20 files.

"Having just gone through the process of mastering our new album for = digital=20 and for vinyl, I can say it is completely amazing how different they = really=20 sound," said lead singer and guitarist Joshua Babcock in an e-mail = interview.=20 "The way the vinyl is so much better and warmer and more interesting to = listen=20 to is a wonder."

- - -

Eliot Van Buskirk has covered digital music since 1998, after = seeing the=20 world's first MP3 player sitting on a colleague's desk. He plays bass = and rides=20 a bicycle.

------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C81A5B.90E0B210-- From pb-cle-raves-return-90597-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Oct 30 16:25:59 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 99551 invoked by uid 1162); 30 Oct 2007 16:25:58 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: X-list-unsubscribe: X-list-post: X-files: scully! 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And when justice is gone, there's always force." --- Laurie Anderson, "O Superman" Blind faith in bad leadership is not "Patriotism". -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? From pb-cle-raves-return-90598-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 31 17:56:53 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 74733 invoked by uid 1162); 31 Oct 2007 17:56:52 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: X-list-unsubscribe: X-list-post: X-files: scully! 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From pb-cle-raves-return-90599-pb-cle-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Nov 01 04:46:55 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1335 invoked by uid 1162); 1 Nov 2007 04:46:55 -0000 Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-list-help: X-list-unsubscribe: X-list-post: X-files: scully! 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Vinyl rocks.. I forwarded this to all my close audiophile friends and got great responses... trout wrote: i really figured the mp3/flac and portable players would be the end of the cd =) Doug Burkhart wrote: > > http://www.wired.com/entertainment/music/commentary/listeningpost/2007/10/listeningpost_1029 > > > > As counterintuitive as it may seem in this age of iPods and digital > downloads, vinyl -- the favorite physical format of indie music > collectors and audiophiles -- is poised to re-enter the mainstream, or > at least become a major tributary. > > Talk to almost anyone in the music business' vital indie and DJ scenes > and you'll encounter a uniformly optimistic picture of the vinyl market. > [snip] -- you fucked polka royalty? did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it? --0-417380631-1193892413=:88720 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I love that this article is spring boarding the truth.. Vinyl rocks.. I forwarded this to all my close audiophile friends and got great responses...

trout <troutsoup@gmail.com> wrote:
 
i really figured the mp3/flac and portable players would be the end of
the cd =)

Doug Burkhart wrote:
>
> http://www.wired.com/entertainment/music/commentary/listeningpost/2007/10/listeningpost_1029
>
>
>
> As counterintuitive as it may seem in this age of iPods and digital
> downloads, vinyl -- the favorite physical format of indie music
> collectors and audiophiles -- is poised to re-enter the mainstream, or
> at least become a major tributary.
>
> Talk to almost anyone in the music business' vital indie and DJ scenes
> and you'll encounter a uniformly optimistic picture of the vinyl market.
>
[snip]

--
you fucked polka royalty?
did the bed make an "ooom-pah" noise when you were hittin' it?


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